Geso: Rogues gallery
I do not do well at quick photos of people. At some point I may try to clean some of these up, but at least it'll help you connect the photographers, with the photographs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623920448635/ The one not standing next to a photo is Sue Barton. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Last minutes of the online chat!
:-) Because I forgot to add it to my last message. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) On 12 May 2010 14:54, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 May 2010 13:00, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: What's the matter? You folks never seen a jewfro before? Of course we have, Larry. Here's a famous one not unlike your own do: http://tinyurl.com/2dgsql6 regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Book, Exhibit and Chicago Galleries
What Rob said :-) On 12/5/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: It's been a big couple of weeks on this little mail list, there has been a lot of posts that I'd have liked to reply to but unfortunately I don't have that much spare time at the moment so I hope the following serves to indicate my appreciation. Yesterday I received my copy of the PDML Annual 2009, it's a hardcover ImageWrap version, ordered 23 April, curiously shipped from Sweden (Priority shipping option). I've just had a chance to cruise though it in a more leisurely fashion and I really enjoyed the book and its contents. A big congratulations to all the image contributors, there are so many great images to study and enjoy, huge thanks to Mark and the editorial team for putting in the time and care. The book design and execution is excellent and leaves little to be desired, the Blurb production quality is also very good. Very satisfying in all. The layout in the DANK-Haus gallery looked functional and attractive, what a huge effort, thanks Christine and team. The live video feed from the gallery was a terrific idea and provided the on-line participants a little of the feel of the evening. Of course it would have been great to have been there but the live chat became a fun little alternate forum for sporadic camaraderie and jest. I enjoyed Cotty's video production too, thanks again everyone involved. Finally the almost overwhelming stream of post Chicago GESO's and PESO's generated by the attendees during the evening at the gallery and later were all great to see. Very sad to have personally missed out on such a momentous PDML get together but very glad to have available so many fine and entertaining images documenting the event. I was there in spirit but would love to be there in person some day to share time and space with some of the talented crew that makes the PDML such an amazing little mail list, thanks Doug et al.! ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - PDML Refusés
Mine: http://www.dariobonazza.com/dolcenera/dn52e.htm Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Book, Exhibit and Chicago Galleries
Rob - you've said it so well and I can only add that my feelings are exactly the same. A belated heartfelt thanks to all who organised the whole book and show deal (mine has still not arrived!). John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rob Studdert Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 1:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Book, Exhibit and Chicago Galleries Hi Team, It's been a big couple of weeks on this little mail list, there has been a lot of posts that I'd have liked to reply to but unfortunately I don't have that much spare time at the moment so I hope the following serves to indicate my appreciation. Yesterday I received my copy of the PDML Annual 2009, it's a hardcover ImageWrap version, ordered 23 April, curiously shipped from Sweden (Priority shipping option). I've just had a chance to cruise though it in a more leisurely fashion and I really enjoyed the book and its contents. A big congratulations to all the image contributors, there are so many great images to study and enjoy, huge thanks to Mark and the editorial team for putting in the time and care. The book design and execution is excellent and leaves little to be desired, the Blurb production quality is also very good. Very satisfying in all. The layout in the DANK-Haus gallery looked functional and attractive, what a huge effort, thanks Christine and team. The live video feed from the gallery was a terrific idea and provided the on-line participants a little of the feel of the evening. Of course it would have been great to have been there but the live chat became a fun little alternate forum for sporadic camaraderie and jest. I enjoyed Cotty's video production too, thanks again everyone involved. Finally the almost overwhelming stream of post Chicago GESO's and PESO's generated by the attendees during the evening at the gallery and later were all great to see. Very sad to have personally missed out on such a momentous PDML get together but very glad to have available so many fine and entertaining images documenting the event. I was there in spirit but would love to be there in person some day to share time and space with some of the talented crew that makes the PDML such an amazing little mail list, thanks Doug et al.! ;-) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Blurry or Clear?
I've thought about it for a while now. Overall I like the second better. I think the issue is, or may be, how much movement and where in the image. The first image has movement/blur through the entire frame. It's [...] I agree with Tom. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - The Usual Suspects (Chicago)
Peradventure, these are typical Pentax users. Enjoy: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=967136 those pictures are really quite alarming. Despite your lack of writing skills, those are awesomely funny shots. I even like mine! I've bookmarked that page for future reference. And to scare my kids, should I one day have them. if you hope to have children in the future it would probably be best not to let any women see that picture. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm
On 11/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-storm.html This also gives locals an idea of how far I am from downtown now. Wow! I leica. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Book, Exhibit and Chicago Galleries
On Wed, 12 May 2010 07:52 +0100, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: What Rob said :-) As much as I dislike 'me too' threads Me too! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On 12/5/10, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: It's been a big couple of weeks on this little mail list, there has been a lot of posts that I'd have liked to reply to but unfortunately I don't have that much spare time at the moment so I hope the following serves to indicate my appreciation. Yesterday I received my copy of the PDML Annual 2009, it's a hardcover ImageWrap version, ordered 23 April, curiously shipped from Sweden (Priority shipping option). I've just had a chance to cruise though it in a more leisurely fashion and I really enjoyed the book and its contents. A big congratulations to all the image contributors, there are so many great images to study and enjoy, huge thanks to Mark and the editorial team for putting in the time and care. The book design and execution is excellent and leaves little to be desired, the Blurb production quality is also very good. Very satisfying in all. The layout in the DANK-Haus gallery looked functional and attractive, what a huge effort, thanks Christine and team. The live video feed from the gallery was a terrific idea and provided the on-line participants a little of the feel of the evening. Of course it would have been great to have been there but the live chat became a fun little alternate forum for sporadic camaraderie and jest. I enjoyed Cotty's video production too, thanks again everyone involved. Finally the almost overwhelming stream of post Chicago GESO's and PESO's generated by the attendees during the evening at the gallery and later were all great to see. Very sad to have personally missed out on such a momentous PDML get together but very glad to have available so many fine and entertaining images documenting the event. I was there in spirit but would love to be there in person some day to share time and space with some of the talented crew that makes the PDML such an amazing little mail list, thanks Doug et al.! ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Last minutes of the online chat!
Separated at birth Marnie :-) (Just joking, Larry.) In a message dated 5/11/2010 9:54:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, farranth...@gmail.com writes: On 12 May 2010 13:00, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: What's the matter? You folks never seen a jewfro before? Of course we have, Larry. Here's a famous one not unlike your own do: http://tinyurl.com/2dgsql6 regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Book, Exhibit and Chicago Galleries
2010/5/12 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: On Wed, 12 May 2010 07:52 +0100, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: What Rob said :-) As much as I dislike 'me too' threads Me too! I was going to say Me too! too and then opted against it but I guess ME TOO =) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Canon S90 Remarks
I don't think many will come to love it, but it's still remarkably handy: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/05/11/Canon-S90-Notes -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Rogues gallery
Not bad at all. Some good ones in there. Lighting was not optimal. I like seeing people next to their photos. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/11/2010 11:31:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: I do not do well at quick photos of people. At some point I may try to clean some of these up, but at least it'll help you connect the photographers, with the photographs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623920448635/ The one not standing next to a photo is Sue Barton. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm
On May 12, 2010, at 11:33 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-storm.html Nice, very well timed. I know how you feel about being busy, I'm flat out as well. I took some forest pics on Sunday and I want to dabble with HDR. I even took some 6x7 photos but the film has been in the camera for well over a year... and I know it has a light leak. So I doubt they'll turn out. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: WEBCAM Video of Chicago Exhibition
May I ask why Florac in Lozere ? .. goodness ! you can't imagine how far it is for a Parisian just joking of course thanks ßob . not sure I can but it would be nice .. . dominique Le 11/05/10 21:10, p...@web-options.com a écrit : Dominique, there is a small pdml event taking place on 23rd/24th June in Florac, Lozere - you are most welcome to join in! Bob dominique, You have to find an event to attend and meet some of these people in the flesh. Then you'll know them on sight. Regards, Bob S. (Who missed meeting Tim Bray somehow on Friday!) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 11/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-storm.html This also gives locals an idea of how far I am from downtown now. Wow! I leica. 'Sony a wave. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Book, Exhibit and Chicago Galleries
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/12 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: On Wed, 12 May 2010 07:52 +0100, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: What Rob said :-) As much as I dislike 'me too' threads Me too! I was going to say Me too! too and then opted against it but I guess ME TOO =) You two, too? Angelina -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The Chicago Event
Dear gang, The Chicago Event was fantastic. I too have some shots I'd like to share, but that will have to wait until I have time to process the images. Hopefully tomorrow; ascension day is public holiday in Norway. Bob and Lynn Sullivan took very good care of both Boris and me throughout. I'm very grateful for their hospitality. The exhibition was very well executed. Absolutely fabulous to think of how one's image is hung in a gallery nearly half around the world. And even more so after having seen it in person. Christine, Sue, Mark, and everyone else that made the exhibition happen; thank you so much. Btw, I noticed there were predictions on the list that my pic would probably sell, and some even maintaining it would sell first; but I didn't believe it. So when it happened it was a very positive surprise. It is only the second time I have sold an image from a collection of prints where other photographers are present, and the first time from a proper exhibition. Boris keeps telling me I shouldn't be surprised, but it feels like an important personal milestone. I'm very glad this happened in a PDML context. At the same time, the penguin image competed for fame and glory (ie. no price for the winner) back here in Norway. BioFoto, an organisation for Scandinavian nature photographers with roughly 1400 members, had their annual convention while Chicago PDML'ers were browsing the Eggleston exhibition. One regular point on the BioFoto convention agenda is to cast votes for the nature photo of the year contest, and my penguin shot finished 4th out of 20 nominated images. Not bad. All good, really. A more mixed bag is that the same convention elected me leader of the organisation. It was expected since I was the only willing candidate, but it means I will have much less time to hang around PDML for a while. At least until I get on top of my new responsibilities. On Sunday, a select group of PDML'ers did a walkabout among house designs by architect Frank Lloyd Wright, before withdrawing to Bob's house for dinner and a little show of some more of my pics from the South Atlantic. Both Stan and Boris expressed interest in getting a copy of the book I made on the same, so I will look into making a few more copies. I'll look into producing a Blurb version as well, which is more convenient for direct purchase if more people are interested. And hopefully cheaper than the European alternative. As many others have mentioned, it was fun to match real physical persons to their cyberspace appearance. There were discrepancies, of course, but whatever stature, all seemed to me to reach exactly down to the ground. No small feat for such a large group of artist(e)s. :-) It was truly grand to see you all. Hope we can do this again some time. PDML ru13z. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair
On May 11, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Northeast Media wrote: I liked the red umbrella in the trash can. Isn't Chicago the windy city ? That was originally a reference to the politicians, not the weather. In truth, NY -- on the coast and with its canyons -- is windier. Paul Phil Northeast www.northeastmedia.biz northeastme...@bigpond.com - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:18 PM Subject: Re: GESO - Quality Human Hair Very nice gallery -- lots of interesting juxtapositions, snippets of things, and angles. I especially like the tattoo and leaves juxtaposition. (Also the Buddha, photographer and mirror.) Marnie :-) In a message dated 5/10/2010 10:00:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, taylorjohn...@cablespeed.com writes: On May 9, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.comwrote: Most of these will not survive a more serious cull, but right now they don't make me spew. All taken over the too little time I had for shooting in Chicago, just a random collection with no thought to flow or chronological order. Friday night is missing until I move them from the laptop to my working computer. Anyway: http://www.alphoto.com/images/chicago2010/ enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On May 11, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Tom C wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote :(regarding Eggleston) I'm pretty sure Christine had a little epiphany about it too, but I'll leave that up to her. Even Mark Roberts allowed, a touch grudgingly, that there might have been a couple of good photos in there. I really thought one (Eggleston) was excellent and two others were very likeable. So I didn't totally dislike his exhbited work, though those three represent probably 5% of what was displayed. He just, IMO, seemed a charlatan. Maybe Picasso was too, based on some elementary school art exhibits I saw hanging in the local mall today. It seems to me a question of: 1. Do I like it because it was REALLY a good photograph? or 2. Do I like it because it brings back fond memories for me, despite it being a CRAPPY photograph? If #1, then it was probably a really good photograph. If #2, then it's because I'm in love with my own memories (nothing wrong with that) and my emotional response to the image has little to do with it's artisitic merit. Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. Paul Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Chicago Event
On May 12, 2010, at 6:01 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Dear gang, The Chicago Event was fantastic. I too have some shots I'd like to share, but that will have to wait until I have time to process the images. Hopefully tomorrow; ascension day is public holiday in Norway. Bob and Lynn Sullivan took very good care of both Boris and me throughout. I'm very grateful for their hospitality. The exhibition was very well executed. Absolutely fabulous to think of how one's image is hung in a gallery nearly half around the world. And even more so after having seen it in person. Christine, Sue, Mark, and everyone else that made the exhibition happen; thank you so much. Btw, I noticed there were predictions on the list that my pic would probably sell, and some even maintaining it would sell first; but I didn't believe it. So when it happened it was a very positive surprise. It is only the second time I have sold an image from a collection of prints where other photographers are present, and the first time from a proper exhibition. Boris keeps telling me I shouldn't be surprised, but it feels like an important personal milestone. I'm very glad this happened in a PDML context. At the same time, the penguin image competed for fame and glory (ie. no price for the winner) back here in Norway. BioFoto, an organisation for Scandinavian nature photographers with roughly 1400 members, had their annual convention while Chicago PDML'ers were browsing the Eggleston exhibition. One regular point on the BioFoto convention agenda is to cast votes for the nature photo of the year contest, and my penguin shot finished 4th out of 20 nominated images. Not bad. All good, really. A more mixed bag is that the same convention elected me leader of the organisation. It was expected since I was the only willing candidate, but it means I will have much less time to hang around PDML for a while. At least until I get on top of my new responsibilities. On Sunday, a select group of PDML'ers did a walkabout among house designs by architect Frank Lloyd Wright, before withdrawing to Bob's house for dinner and a little show of some more of my pics from the South Atlantic. Both Stan and Boris expressed interest in getting a copy of the book I made on the same, so I will look into making a few more copies. I'll look into producing a Blurb version as well, which is more convenient for direct purchase if more people are interested. And hopefully cheaper than the European alternative. As many others have mentioned, it was fun to match real physical persons to their cyberspace appearance. There were discrepancies, of course, but whatever stature, all seemed to me to reach exactly down to the ground. No small feat for such a large group of artist(e)s. :-) It was truly grand to see you all. Hope we can do this again some time. PDML ru13z. Jostein -- Sorry to have missed you once again, Jostein. I'm not surprised your photo sold. It's truly superb. Paul http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
Yet, is that a definition of art or artistry? Tom C. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:21 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. Paul Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
paul stenquist wrote: Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. Well it *can* be. But it's possible to evoke an emotional response without any art at all. :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: WEBCAM Video of Chicago Exhibition
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:03:16AM +0200, Madame RD wrote: May I ask why Florac in Lozere ? .. goodness ! you can't imagine how far it is for a Parisian dominique Speaking of Paris... I'll actually be in Paris for two weeks (for work) starting May 16th. Send me an off-list email if you want to try to get together for a few hours some afternoon. Cotty is actually trying to show up for a day next week. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sony A850 ? (Mark)
Mark, How are you with your A850 decision? Too early? Impression; noise, HDR. res., overall IQ, build/handling...? You put up a loving shot of it awhile back, but what with Chicago et al, Wondering if your hands-on impression confirms satisfies your expectations. Thanks! Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leaving for Chicago
Mark! When I (keep) saying you, you oughta be proud of yourself, you chuckle away... But then if some BioPhoto bunch does, you are quite proud... Ok, tall guy, I will remember you this ;-). Boris On 5/6/2010 1:23 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Guys and gals, It's well past midnight here, and I'm just about to hit the pillow. My flight leaves Oslo tomorrow at 8:30 Central European DST (zone GMT+1), so I'll be up early to reach the airport and won't have time to check my email, I think. Tonight I held a talk at the local branch of BioFoto, over the Antarctica pictures, which went quite well. The picture in the exhibition received further kudos, and so did the overall show. It may be bragging, but right now I'm quite proud. Biofoto is a picky audience. :-) Good night, and see some of you on a different continent in a few hours. Cheers, Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago Double Whammy
I think I can arrange US visas for my daughters for such an occasion ;-). On 5/6/2010 4:01 PM, Cotty wrote: On 6/5/10, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: Your *double whammy* is a *double bummer*, Paul. I think our next PDML outing is just going to have to be near you, so we can all meet you :-). Party at Pauls! Party at Pauls! :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Chicago Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. When Tom and I were driving to the hotel on Thursday, a station wagon being driven in an erratic and dangerous manner invoked a fairly extreme emotional response from both of us. I hadn't thought of bad driving as being an art form before this moment. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)
I've used the A850 for a while. My impressions: Build: excellent Viewfinder: excellent Handling: very good Resolution: excellent (provided you put enough a lens in front of it, otherwise edges are poor). Don't use the provided 2.8/28-75mm (a rebadged Tamron) full open if you want good resolution at edges. AF: excellent on steady subjects, worse than Pentax on moving subjects in less-than-ideal conditions Noise: comparable to K20D (but the lower enlargement required make it less obvious) Dynamic range: slightly worse than K20D. All in all: an excellent studio camera, doesn't feel so comfortable in action. Dario - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Sony A850 ? (Mark) Mark, How are you with your A850 decision? Too early? Impression; noise, HDR. res., overall IQ, build/handling...? You put up a loving shot of it awhile back, but what with Chicago et al, Wondering if your hands-on impression confirms satisfies your expectations. Thanks! Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 07:33:29PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: Took this one Saturday morning. I hoped to get together a GESO, but things got crazy on Saturday afternoon and I haven't been on the computer since. So far this and Early Morning Run are the only two I've had a chance to render. Anyway, we had intense thunderstorms here in Toronto on Friday night. By Saturday morning the rain had stopped but Lake Ontario was still pretty pissed off about the whole thing. I had no idea that our little Great Lake could produce the waves I saw that morning. Not quite surfing material, but still, bigger than I expected. Hope you enjoy: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-storm.html This also gives locals an idea of how far I am from downtown now. Comments welcome. cheers, frank NICE! Very dynamic and the BW makes it feel stormy too. Love the skyline in the background which gives it a sense of place. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark)
Appreciate your comments, Dario. Fairly close to my interpretation of the dp review. Jack --- On Wed, 5/12/10, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it Subject: Re: Sony A850 ? (Mark) To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 6:27 AM I've used the A850 for a while. My impressions: Build: excellent Viewfinder: excellent Handling: very good Resolution: excellent (provided you put enough a lens in front of it, otherwise edges are poor). Don't use the provided 2.8/28-75mm (a rebadged Tamron) full open if you want good resolution at edges. AF: excellent on steady subjects, worse than Pentax on moving subjects in less-than-ideal conditions Noise: comparable to K20D (but the lower enlargement required make it less obvious) Dynamic range: slightly worse than K20D. All in all: an excellent studio camera, doesn't feel so comfortable in action. Dario - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Sony A850 ? (Mark) Mark, How are you with your A850 decision? Too early? Impression; noise, HDR. res., overall IQ, build/handling...? You put up a loving shot of it awhile back, but what with Chicago et al, Wondering if your hands-on impression confirms satisfies your expectations. Thanks! Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
I also kept mine. It is Galia's camera now. And some times my backup. In fact, I would be interested to know when and how it will actually completely expire. That said, having seen K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy Galia a new camera... Boris On 5/7/2010 12:48 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I'd hang on to it. As you say, the resale value is not enough to make you want to lose it as a backup camera. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - They're Calling For Snow Tonight
Gee... Well, we had a proper thunderstorm just before I left for Chicago. That's pretty freakin' unusual... Boris On 5/8/2010 2:53 PM, frank theriault wrote: It's May! AAGGG!! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: OK, if we're going to discuss this, first you have to define what exactly makes a good photograph, without saying a good photo is not this... or a good photo is not that... Fire when ready. Thought about in my sleep. :-) I'll cop out with the following: We and I may be mixing up the terms art and good in this discussion... oh well... There can be be no single answer to the question because photographs are taken for a variety of reasons. Some photographs are intended as a form of artistic expression while others may be simply documentary. Some are documentary of an event, say a party, while others are taken for more mundane reasons. I believe some photos are taken for practically no reason whatsoever - the person has a camera and therefore is using it (similar to what happens if you give a child a camera and they mostly, indiscriminately, start walking around actuating the shutter). (Like Eggleston, IMO, wink) There's at least two ways of defining good when it's applied to photography: 1. Good because the image fulfills the requirements for which it was taken 2. Good because the image possesses some attributes that make it stand out in a positive way Individually we all define good somewhat differently. It seems to me that invoking/or not an emotional response is not the whole thing either. First, one viewer is different from the next, so will be impacted differently. Second, the viewer may have an emotional response to the image that has little to do with the merits of the image itself. Example 1: I love my baby, so a picture of my baby invokes an emotional response. Example 2: I remember the day JFK was shot, so when I see images of that traumatic event, it invokes an emotional response. In both examples above the subject matter alone is what may produce a response. I would think that a snapshot baby picture or a hastily taken image documenting an event, likely does not qualify as art unless it invokes a response for reasons other than the subject matter itself. In the GESO I just posted of wide angle portraits. Are they good or bad? Are they art? I didn't intend them to be art. Nor would I ever submit that they are such. Yet, I took them with the sole purpose of invoking an emotional response (which from what I read is either amusement or horror). Are they good? IMO, yes, but only in that they invoked the response I was hoping for). Are they good because they possess some other qualities, such as excellent composition, lighting, exposure control? No. In the end, I suppose, the only statements I can really make that are unassailable is I like that image or I think that's a good image. My thoughts and emotions are my own and require no validation. If someone disagrees, their opposite statements are just as valid. As I said, I think the PDML exhibit in Chicago was a far better collection of images than the Eggleston exhibit. That's my opinion. For instance I saw nothing artistic or good about the photographs of a pile of garbage or the black porcelain interior of an oven. It's probably easier to define a bad photograph as opposed to a good one. A bad photograph is one that a person sees once and never cares to look at again. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
JetLag 0, Boris 1
Hi! If you remember I had opened a thread regarding jet lag back in February. It seems I've stumbled upon simple solution of this problem just yesterday. You see, all my business flights back were departure at around midnight and arrival late afternoon. So, I would arrive, feel beaten up and go to bed pretty confused all around. This time, however, I flew home on 7pm flight from JFK. Having to go as far north as Greenland, it took 11 hours and by 1pm local time I've arrived to Israel. Went home, moved round and about, had a quiet walk around the 'hood with my girls. Then, at around 7 pm I felt really really tired. Dragged myself on for another 2 hours and at 9 pm I hit the pillow really hard. And voila, today I was fully awake at 6 am as I usually do. Presently I feel ever so slightly tired but nothing to really worry about. I suppose, I should specifically request a ticket to 7pm flight from JFK next time they send me on the business trip across the big pond. Well, now I've vented ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The Chicago Event
Guilty as charged. I think, mister, you're quite a photographer... Otherwise, I'd second (or would it be third after Paul Stenquist?) what you said. A special thanks of course goes to Bob and Lynn for letting me in and allowing me to have truly great time. Whomever I invited to visit Israel in person - my invitation surely stands. And if any of PDMLers decides to travel just give me a shout reasonably in advance. I am sure I will be able to enhance your travel program at least a bit. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - The Usual Suspects (Chicago)
On 5/12/2010 5:40 AM, Miserere wrote: On 11 May 2010 20:53, Tom Ccaka...@gmail.com wrote: Which is why Boris took yer mugshot, cos it certainly wasn't me. Not when you don't know how to spell my oh-so-easy name. ROTFLMAO Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO squatters
they settled uninvited in my flowerpots but I quite like them and i'm disappointed when they don't show up . http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4601435482/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4601436298/in/photostream/ not a squatter but hadn't shown a flower until now . http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4600818825/ about time i posted some pictures ... dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:52:50AM +0100, mike wilson wrote: Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 11/5/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-storm.html This also gives locals an idea of how far I am from downtown now. Wow! I leica. 'Sony a wave. Rolleing onto shore. -- Christian - http://404notfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On May 12, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Tom C wrote: Yet, is that a definition of art or artistry? It's but one of many. There are no hard and fast definitions, no hard and fast rules. However, I would say that if a work is both completely devoid of any evidence of skill and it fails to invoke any kind of response, then it is not art. Art can include both technical masterpieces and emotional concepts. But in the end, it is up to the individual to decide. When I go to a museum, I know that I am looking at the curator's definition of art. I am, of course, free to agree or disagree with that judgement. On the other hand, when a work has passed the test of time and has been deemed artful by critics whose experience spans centuries, It is somewhat arrogant and perhaps a bit naive to question their judgement. Paul Tom C. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:21 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. Paul Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On May 12, 2010, at 9:19 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Chicago Invoking an emotional response is artistry in its highest form. When Tom and I were driving to the hotel on Thursday, a station wagon being driven in an erratic and dangerous manner invoked a fairly extreme emotional response from both of us. I hadn't thought of bad driving as being an art form before this moment. Well, it can be. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
My flight out of Chicago was 16:25. Losing seven hours on the way, it meant I landed in Oslo around 9:30 in the morning, and hit home one hour later. Didn't sleep much on the plane this time; partly due to good company in the neighbour seat. I too forced myself to stay active all day and had a long night's sleep; with much the same result as you describe. I've been fairly well focused today. But boy, was I exhausted in the afternoon yesterday... :-) Look forward to upload my images to the computer tomorrow. Good to see Larry posting on PDML again despite how he was treated on Sunday, btw. I think that was not nice behaviour on Bob, Lynn and Stan's part. :-( Jostein 2010/5/12 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hi! If you remember I had opened a thread regarding jet lag back in February. It seems I've stumbled upon simple solution of this problem just yesterday. You see, all my business flights back were departure at around midnight and arrival late afternoon. So, I would arrive, feel beaten up and go to bed pretty confused all around. This time, however, I flew home on 7pm flight from JFK. Having to go as far north as Greenland, it took 11 hours and by 1pm local time I've arrived to Israel. Went home, moved round and about, had a quiet walk around the 'hood with my girls. Then, at around 7 pm I felt really really tired. Dragged myself on for another 2 hours and at 9 pm I hit the pillow really hard. And voila, today I was fully awake at 6 am as I usually do. Presently I feel ever so slightly tired but nothing to really worry about. I suppose, I should specifically request a ticket to 7pm flight from JFK next time they send me on the business trip across the big pond. Well, now I've vented ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On 13/05/2010, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It's but one of many. There are no hard and fast definitions, no hard and fast rules. However, I would say that if a work is both completely devoid of any evidence of skill and it fails to invoke any kind of response, then it is not art. Art can include both technical masterpieces and emotional concepts. But in the end, it is up to the individual to decide. I think the artist can call any work they deem to be art, art, whether the rest of us agree is moot it seems. I see examples of this regularly but the one that sticks in my mind most is the exhibit that I stumbled upon in a very well regarded Sydney photographic gallery space quite a few years back now. This particular exhibit consisted of 20+ large prints of images of a CRT TV screen showing daytime soap opera clips. Lots of screen scan lines, low contrast, often indistinct scenes, nothing otherwise coherent or interesting but hey it was presented as art. He who dares art I call it. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Rogues gallery
Larry Colen wrote: I do not do well at quick photos of people. At some point I may try to clean some of these up, but at least it'll help you connect the photographers, with the photographs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623920448635/ Very nice! Mind if I grab your shot of me for my web site? I need to update to a more current shot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
software misfeature of the K-x
On Monday night I was photographing a dance and was having a really rough time with exposure. I was shooting in manual mode, I'd take a picture, then the next time I shot, the exposure was way off. Or it would change. It took me a while to realize that I had left the shutter in bracket. There is no reason that pressing the shutter once in bracket mode shouldn't take all three exposures. For that matter, it should be designed so that the mirror doesn't flop and bounce after every exposure. I'm not even sure that it should need to fire the mechanical shutter between each exposure. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
I think the approach you guys are using to analyse this might be flawed for some type of work, some photos need to be evaluated as part of a whole, and even in an intended sequence (e.g. Robert Frank's The Americans). These are the photos that evaluated individualy are mundane but are elevated to a different level as part of a whole. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: OK, if we're going to discuss this, first you have to define what exactly makes a good photograph, without saying a good photo is not this... or a good photo is not that... Fire when ready. Thought about in my sleep. :-) I'll cop out with the following: We and I may be mixing up the terms art and good in this discussion... oh well... There can be be no single answer to the question because photographs are taken for a variety of reasons. Some photographs are intended as a form of artistic expression while others may be simply documentary. Some are documentary of an event, say a party, while others are taken for more mundane reasons. I believe some photos are taken for practically no reason whatsoever - the person has a camera and therefore is using it (similar to what happens if you give a child a camera and they mostly, indiscriminately, start walking around actuating the shutter). (Like Eggleston, IMO, wink) There's at least two ways of defining good when it's applied to photography: 1. Good because the image fulfills the requirements for which it was taken 2. Good because the image possesses some attributes that make it stand out in a positive way Individually we all define good somewhat differently. It seems to me that invoking/or not an emotional response is not the whole thing either. First, one viewer is different from the next, so will be impacted differently. Second, the viewer may have an emotional response to the image that has little to do with the merits of the image itself. Example 1: I love my baby, so a picture of my baby invokes an emotional response. Example 2: I remember the day JFK was shot, so when I see images of that traumatic event, it invokes an emotional response. In both examples above the subject matter alone is what may produce a response. I would think that a snapshot baby picture or a hastily taken image documenting an event, likely does not qualify as art unless it invokes a response for reasons other than the subject matter itself. In the GESO I just posted of wide angle portraits. Are they good or bad? Are they art? I didn't intend them to be art. Nor would I ever submit that they are such. Yet, I took them with the sole purpose of invoking an emotional response (which from what I read is either amusement or horror). Are they good? IMO, yes, but only in that they invoked the response I was hoping for). Are they good because they possess some other qualities, such as excellent composition, lighting, exposure control? No. In the end, I suppose, the only statements I can really make that are unassailable is I like that image or I think that's a good image. My thoughts and emotions are my own and require no validation. If someone disagrees, their opposite statements are just as valid. As I said, I think the PDML exhibit in Chicago was a far better collection of images than the Eggleston exhibit. That's my opinion. For instance I saw nothing artistic or good about the photographs of a pile of garbage or the black porcelain interior of an oven. It's probably easier to define a bad photograph as opposed to a good one. A bad photograph is one that a person sees once and never cares to look at again. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On 12 May 2010 00:47, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: OK, if we're going to discuss this, first you have to define what exactly makes a good photograph, without saying a good photo is not this... or a good photo is not that... Fire when ready. Doug, I actually wrote an article describing what makes a Great Photograph. I titled it... What Makes a Great Photograph (see how my mind works?). You might enjoy it--at the very least there are no emoticons and Eggleston gets a mention: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ Let me know what you think. Cheers, --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: software misfeature of the K-x
Of course it needs to operate the shutter ... all electronic shutters as yet do not have the control and resolution possible with a mechanical shutter. And like with most SLRs, the shutter regulation, aperture control and mirror are a linked mechanical operation so there's no good way to cycle the shutter without also cycling the others. On Olympus bodies, the auto-bracket feature and the capture three on one shutter press are implemented separately: you have to turn on auto-bracket AND drive mode to achieve this automation. I find this very useful in some situations (say when using a flash unit to allow time for recycling). If a camera has independently, electronically controlled shutter, mirror and aperture operation, then an option to do auto-bracketing on one press cycling only the shutter as quickly as possible would be a nice feature for use when appropriate. I don't believe it's possible with the design of today's Pentax (or any other) SLR bodies. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Monday night I was photographing a dance and was having a really rough time with exposure. I was shooting in manual mode, I'd take a picture, then the next time I shot, the exposure was way off. Or it would change. It took me a while to realize that I had left the shutter in bracket. There is no reason that pressing the shutter once in bracket mode shouldn't take all three exposures. For that matter, it should be designed so that the mirror doesn't flop and bounce after every exposure. I'm not even sure that it should need to fire the mechanical shutter between each exposure. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
On 12 May 2010 09:38, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I also kept mine. It is Galia's camera now. And some times my backup. In fact, I would be interested to know when and how it will actually completely expire. That said, having seen K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy Galia a new camera... Boris Translation: Having seen a K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy myself a new backup camera... --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
Tom C wrote: We and I may be mixing up the terms art and good in this discussion... oh well... We can save the discussion about whether photography is art for later. I asked what makes a good photograph. There can be be no single answer to the question because photographs are taken for a variety of reasons. Some photographs are intended as a form of artistic expression while others may be simply documentary. Some are documentary of an event, say a party, while others are taken for more mundane reasons. I believe some photos are taken for practically no reason whatsoever or maybe no obvious reason? - the person has a camera and therefore is using it (similar to what happens if you give a child a camera and they mostly, indiscriminately, start walking around actuating the shutter). (Like Eggleston, IMO, wink) Eggleston may be many things, but indiscriminate isn't one of them. He's quite deliberate in what he shows, but it sometimes takes some work to see what he's revealing. There's at least two ways of defining good when it's applied to photography: 1. Good because the image fulfills the requirements for which it was taken Are we talking just record-keeping? Here is a scene and here is what it looked like? 2. Good because the image possesses some attributes that make it stand out in a positive way Attributes such as? And why positive? Individually we all define good somewhat differently. Sure. And we are all, when we reach a certain level of competency, convinced that the way we do it is the way everyone should do it. Nature of the beast, you know. It seems to me that invoking/or not an emotional response is not the whole thing either. First, one viewer is different from the next, so will be impacted differently. Second, the viewer may have an emotional response to the image that has little to do with the merits of the image itself. Example 1: I love my baby, so a picture of my baby invokes an emotional response. Example 2: I remember the day JFK was shot, so when I see images of that traumatic event, it invokes an emotional response. In both examples above the subject matter alone is what may produce a response. I would think that a snapshot baby picture or a hastily taken image documenting an event, likely does not qualify as art unless it invokes a response for reasons other than the subject matter itself. And what I'm trying to do, somewhat clumsily, is get you to articulate those reasons. What I'm trying to get at is that we all have our templates, as photographers, and sometimes to our detriment. How often do we take the lazy way out and just rely on the rule of thirds to compose a photo instead of taking the time to think about what composition really suits the subject matter best? The rule of thirds is not the only game in town, and the same can be said for any other compositional/sharpness/exposure/color habit we get into. The same can be said for how we view photographs. We like best those that are like what we shoot, as photographers. The trick is to separate our photographer selves from our viewer selves and go from there. Can we do it? Can we look at other photographs, or do the years seeing the world through a viewfinder ruin that for us? In the GESO I just posted of wide angle portraits. Are they good or bad? Are they art? I didn't intend them to be art. Nor would I ever submit that they are such. Yet, I took them with the sole purpose of invoking an emotional response (which from what I read is either amusement or horror). Are they good? IMO, yes, but only in that they invoked the response I was hoping for). Are they good because they possess some other qualities, such as excellent composition, lighting, exposure control? No. 19 is a lark. A million is art. In the end, I suppose, the only statements I can really make that are unassailable is I like that image or I think that's a good image. My thoughts and emotions are my own and require no validation. If someone disagrees, their opposite statements are just as valid. True. I really don't care if anyone else likes Eggleston's work, but if you're going to say a photo, any photo, is crappy, it's only fair to ask why. As I said, I think the PDML exhibit in Chicago was a far better collection of images than the Eggleston exhibit. That's my opinion. For instance I saw nothing artistic or good about the photographs of a pile of garbage or the black porcelain interior of an oven. It's probably easier to define a bad photograph as opposed to a good one. A bad photograph is one that a person sees once and never cares to look at again. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Jetlagged babble
On 12 May 2010 00:50, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Miserere wrote: Slightly surprised that you had a teeny, tiny British accent mixed in with the Norwegian. Not at all surprised at how tall you were. We've been working on that for a long time. Must try harder. You want to make him even taller? --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
On 11 May 2010 23:12, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: and I suspect Miserere was just being silly... Would it have helped if I'd used an emoticon? If so, e-mail Doug and let him know! I'm trying out writing Doug-style since I got back from Chicago and have been making enemies left and right. Note to Self: Must remember never to listen to Doug ever again. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
Miserere wrote: On 11 May 2010 23:12, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: and I suspect Miserere was just being silly... Would it have helped if I'd used an emoticon? If so, e-mail Doug and let him know! I'm trying out writing Doug-style since I got back from Chicago and have been making enemies left and right. Note to Self: Must remember never to listen to Doug ever again. --M. I recall saying something to the effect of don't try this at home. I am a professional. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso: Rogues gallery
On 12 May 2010 02:31, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I do not do well at quick photos of people. At some point I may try to clean some of these up, but at least it'll help you connect the photographers, with the photographs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623920448635/ The one not standing next to a photo is Sue Barton. Larry, thanks for using the soft-focus filter on my photo. [insert winky emoticon here] --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: software misfeature of the K-x
I've set my K20D so that it takes all bracketing shots with a single push on the release button (Custom Setting #8) and the K-7 can also act that way (Custom Setting #7). Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
Miserere wrote: On 12 May 2010 00:47, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: OK, if we're going to discuss this, first you have to define what exactly makes a good photograph, without saying a good photo is not this... or a good photo is not that... Fire when ready. Doug, I actually wrote an article describing what makes a Great Photograph. I titled it... What Makes a Great Photograph (see how my mind works?). You might enjoy it--at the very least there are no emoticons and Eggleston gets a mention: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ Let me know what you think. Cheers, --M. I've read that before, and thought it was very funny. Only category you missed was Post it on the Internet, especially on flickr. Someone will say it's great, and there you go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
M, Just read your what-makes-a-great-photograph and I'm now prepared to do some fabulous work! Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, I actually wrote an article describing what makes a Great Photograph. I titled it... What Makes a Great Photograph (see how my mind works?). You might enjoy it--at the very least there are no emoticons and Eggleston gets a mention: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ Let me know what you think. Cheers, --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
On 12 May 2010 10:15, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Good to see Larry posting on PDML again despite how he was treated on Sunday, btw. I think that was not nice behaviour on Bob, Lynn and Stan's part. :-( Wow, what did I miss? Oh, this was Sunday, not Saturday. Poor Larry, did someone tell him not to post? C'mon Larry! Post the hell out of the PDML! As for jet-lag, I've found that when flying East it's best to land mid afternoon or early evening. When flying West, however, it's best to land mid afternoon or early evening. Rats, did I say the same thing twice? My Chicago-to-Boston jetlag is killing me these days... --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO squatters
I like the way you've included their habitat, Dominique. Delicate quiet images. Jack --- On Wed, 5/12/10, Madame RD romd...@orange.fr wrote: From: Madame RD romd...@orange.fr Subject: PESO squatters To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 7:01 AM they settled uninvited in my flowerpots but I quite like them and i'm disappointed when they don't show up . http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4601435482/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4601436298/in/photostream/ not a squatter but hadn't shown a flower until now . http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4600818825/ about time i posted some pictures ... dominique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
On 12 May 2010 12:30, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: I've read that before, and thought it was very funny. Oh, you thought I was joking? Only category you missed was Post it on the Internet, especially on flickr. Someone will say it's great, and there you go. I did consider mentioning Flickr, but thought I had already insulted enough people. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
On May 12, 2010, at 11:14, Miserere wrote: On 12 May 2010 09:38, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I also kept mine. It is Galia's camera now. And some times my backup. In fact, I would be interested to know when and how it will actually completely expire. That said, having seen K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy Galia a new camera... Boris Translation: Having seen a K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy myself a new backup camera... My dad's got a K-x... maybe I'll try borrowing it the next time I have a dark concert to shoot. Sure is small 'n' light! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Winter Guard
On May 9, 2010, at 19:33, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Saturday, my Rotary Club gave a reception honoring those who have made significant contributions to the community. The highlight of the event was a performance by the Winter Guard from our local high school. I was sitting fairly far back in the theater, far out of flash range, so I decided to test the high ISO performance of my camera: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10991077 Well done! Just the right shutter speed for those flying flags. Someone else asked so I'll just toss it in here since I have it handy: Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/20 sec, f/4.5, ISO 3200 -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Winter Guard
Thanks. That was shot at 3200 ISO. Dan On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Great shot! The noise doesn't intrude even at full size (which is huge). What was the ISO? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 5/9/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: The Winter Guard To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010, 8:33 PM On Saturday, my Rotary Club gave a reception honoring those who have made significant contributions to the community. The highlight of the event was a performance by the Winter Guard from our local high school. I was sitting fairly far back in the theater, far out of flash range, so I decided to test the high ISO performance of my camera: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10991077 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are welcome. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Winter Guard
Thanks, Charles. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 9, 2010, at 19:33, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Saturday, my Rotary Club gave a reception honoring those who have made significant contributions to the community. The highlight of the event was a performance by the Winter Guard from our local high school. I was sitting fairly far back in the theater, far out of flash range, so I decided to test the high ISO performance of my camera: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10991077 Well done! Just the right shutter speed for those flying flags. Someone else asked so I'll just toss it in here since I have it handy: Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/20 sec, f/4.5, ISO 3200 -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chicago
Reading this thread, and then today's The Abominable Charles Christopher made me laugh. http://www.abominable.cc/2010/05/12/consider-the-critics-of-the-field/ Ira - Original Message From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 11:11:54 AM Subject: Re: Chicago Doug, I actually wrote an article describing what makes a Great Photograph. I titled it... What Makes a Great Photograph (see how my mind works?). You might enjoy it--at the very least there are no emoticons and Eggleston gets a mention: http://enticingthelight.com/2010/02/21/what-makes-a-great-photograph/ Let me know what you think. Cheers, --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List ymailto=mailto:PDML@pdml.net; href=mailto:PDML@pdml.net;PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Canon S90 Remarks
On 12 May 2010 03:56, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: I don't think many will come to love it, but it's still remarkably handy: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/05/11/Canon-S90-Notes -Tim Tim, I'm also a fan of the S90. Part 1 of my long-ass review of the camera: http://enticingthelight.com/2009/11/09/review-canon-s90-part-1-first-impressions/ Some photos I've taken with it: http://enticingthelight.com/2009/12/16/some-canon-s90-sample-shots/ I bought it because it was trouser-pocketable (also pants-pocketable) while offering great control and very good IQ for its teeny-weeny sensor. I am still very annoyed about its lacking auto-ISO in M mode, but I don't expect Canon to address that issue--they're not exactly known for listening to their customers. Did you end up getting the grip? I have largish hands but don't have an issue with holding the S90; then again, I don't hold it like a DSLR so the grip would be useless to me. Cheers, --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Book, Exhibit and Chicago Galleries
Den 12. mai 2010 kl. 09.54 skrev eckinator: 2010/5/12 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: On Wed, 12 May 2010 07:52 +0100, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: What Rob said :-) As much as I dislike 'me too' threads Me too! I was going to say Me too! too and then opted against it but I guess ME TOO =) And me... Nice book (nice to be mentioned by Doug) and I wish I was able to be there at the opening. Thanks for all the work that has been done! DagT http://www.thrane.name -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
2010/5/12 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: On 12 May 2010 10:15, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, what did I miss? Oh, this was Sunday, not Saturday. Poor Larry, did someone tell him not to post? C'mon Larry! Post the hell out of the PDML! A bad case of foot in mouth disease on my part. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: software misfeature of the K-x
Mirror, shutter, and aperture control are not mechanically linked in modern dSLRs. They are separately actuated using servos. They are most likely setup that way because the timing chain is already setup and it's much easier to tell the camera to actuate 3 times, than to reprogram the timing chain to lift the mirror, close the aperture, and open-close the shutter x times. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Of course it needs to operate the shutter ... all electronic shutters as yet do not have the control and resolution possible with a mechanical shutter. And like with most SLRs, the shutter regulation, aperture control and mirror are a linked mechanical operation so there's no good way to cycle the shutter without also cycling the others. On Olympus bodies, the auto-bracket feature and the capture three on one shutter press are implemented separately: you have to turn on auto-bracket AND drive mode to achieve this automation. I find this very useful in some situations (say when using a flash unit to allow time for recycling). If a camera has independently, electronically controlled shutter, mirror and aperture operation, then an option to do auto-bracketing on one press cycling only the shutter as quickly as possible would be a nice feature for use when appropriate. I don't believe it's possible with the design of today's Pentax (or any other) SLR bodies. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Monday night I was photographing a dance and was having a really rough time with exposure. I was shooting in manual mode, I'd take a picture, then the next time I shot, the exposure was way off. Or it would change. It took me a while to realize that I had left the shutter in bracket. There is no reason that pressing the shutter once in bracket mode shouldn't take all three exposures. For that matter, it should be designed so that the mirror doesn't flop and bounce after every exposure. I'm not even sure that it should need to fire the mechanical shutter between each exposure. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
Miserere wrote: On 12 May 2010 10:15, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Good to see Larry posting on PDML again despite how he was treated on Sunday, btw. I think that was not nice behaviour on Bob, Lynn and Stan's part. :-( Wow, what did I miss? Oh, this was Sunday, not Saturday. Poor Larry, did someone tell him not to post? C'mon Larry! Post the hell out of the PDML! I just had a frustrating day. It took almost two hours on the train for me to get to Oak Park. I called Stan to find out where people were and he was on a different street than he thought he was. I walked up and down the wrong street for a bit without finding people, then when I tried to find a place to use the bathroom, got a bit lost. A few minutes after I finally found everyone, they all piled into Bob's van and drove off. I ended up consoling myself with Giordano's pizza. As for jet-lag, I've found that when flying East it's best to land mid afternoon or early evening. When flying West, however, it's best to land mid afternoon or early evening. Rats, did I say the same thing twice? My Chicago-to-Boston jetlag is killing me these days... --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
geso - Chicago
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Re: Geso: Rogues gallery
Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I do not do well at quick photos of people. At some point I may try to clean some of these up, but at least it'll help you connect the photographers, with the photographs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623920448635/ Very nice! Mind if I grab your shot of me for my web site? I need to update to a more current shot. You're all welcome to use the shots of you. If people want, let me know and I can send you the raw file when I get home. I didn't do any cleanup, not even cropping, on any of them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm
You done good kid.;-) This works very well in BW. One more move and you'll be in my neck of the woods.,:-) Dave On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Took this one Saturday morning. I hoped to get together a GESO, but things got crazy on Saturday afternoon and I haven't been on the computer since. So far this and Early Morning Run are the only two I've had a chance to render. Anyway, we had intense thunderstorms here in Toronto on Friday night. By Saturday morning the rain had stopped but Lake Ontario was still pretty pissed off about the whole thing. I had no idea that our little Great Lake could produce the waves I saw that morning. Not quite surfing material, but still, bigger than I expected. Hope you enjoy: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/05/after-storm.html This also gives locals an idea of how far I am from downtown now. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Chicago Pic.
I drove through Chicago on my return trips from Fargo ND when i worked for the pilot car company, does that count. Dave On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:52 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On May 11, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote: I grew up in Chicago (go Cubbies!) I grew up in Chicago as well, but on the southside where Cubby fans feared for their lives:-). I've been to Comisky hundreds of times, but only twice to Wrigley. Once for the fire department/police game in 1956 and once for the Bears/49ers in 1962. Where in Chicago did you grow up? I lived in Avalon Park, near 83rd, between Stony and Cottage Grove. Paul and first took up photography there. Here is one I took, from the then new John Hancock Building, viewing Grant Park and Michigan Ave. Just below center is the Chicago Art Institute. Don't remember what the camera was. Maybe my old Kodak Pony, my first 35mm. Alot of things to fix, but brings back alot of memories. http://s896.photobucket.com/albums/ac164/gelewis_2010/Pentax/?action=viewcurrent=ChicagoatNight1961_002A1.jpg Jerry in Arizona -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
Well, you're wrong, mister ;-). If you'd written something like: When on the walk with my daughter, I don't want to have to haul too much weight 'cause I am too lazy then I might have agreed with you ;-). On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Translation: Having seen a K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy myself a new backup camera... --M. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Something Funny Happened on the Way to Chicago
Doug Brewer wrote: Miserere wrote: On 11 May 2010 23:12, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: and I suspect Miserere was just being silly... Would it have helped if I'd used an emoticon? If so, e-mail Doug and let him know! I'm trying out writing Doug-style since I got back from Chicago and have been making enemies left and right. Yeah, but - admit it - you're getting a much *better* class of enemies now. Note to Self: Must remember never to listen to Doug ever again. You have a long way to go to catch up to the number of times I've said that. I recall saying something to the effect of don't try this at home. I am a professional. You need a disclaimer sort of like in the car commercials, only for writing: Professional writer on a closed course. Do not attempt. Extra commas not included. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
Hi Doug, (take everything I say as not an argument, but more or less musing) I don't know the history of Eggleston or how/why he became famous. From the exhibit I saw, I suspect either some beatniks in a coffehouse somewhere or some art professors who talk vs. do, were looking for deeper meaning and stared at some photographs long enough until they thought that they'd found it. Realizing he could achieve fame and/or money by doing more of the same he set out to deliver what the 'intellectuals' wanted. The above may not be true, but it's the sense I get, because if I were to show a similar set of photographs, which would be quite easy to produce, I'd be uniformly chastized. If a person deliberately sets about shooting in what I'd call a 'crappy snaphot style', is it good because it was deliberate as opposed to haphazard? Or is it good because it reminds people of the way things were in years gone by and hence evokes an emotion? I called his photographs crappy because I found them largely devoid of any discernible style or intent, and I did not find them aesthetically pleasing. I did not enjoy the majority of them individually nor did I see any cohesiveness as a group. If that was what he was shooting for, he achieved it. And what I'm trying to do, somewhat clumsily, is get you to articulate those reasons. What I'm trying to get at is that we all have our templates, as photographers, and sometimes to our detriment. How often do we take the lazy way out and just rely on the rule of thirds to compose a photo instead of taking the time to think about what composition really suits the subject matter best? The rule of thirds is not the only game in town, and the same can be said for any other compositional/sharpness/exposure/color habit we get into. Yes, I deliberately tried NOT to articulate the reasons why I would consider a photograph good, and leave it open to interpretation. :-) Why? Because I KNOW, that sure as grass is green, if I elaborate on some specific criteria that someone will argue the opposite or the exception, and point out to me (as if I'm a total idiot) that I cannot be the sole arbiter of what makes a good photograph (and I can't). So I did not fall into the trap. :-) I do however agree with your statements above. The formula for making a good photograph is wide and varied, and we can easily become trapped in our formulaic way of seeing and producing. That, in essence, probably becomes our style, but it's certainly good to keep an open mind and consider that our subject at the time could posiibly benefit from a different approach than our norm. The same can be said for how we view photographs. We like best those that are like what we shoot, as photographers. The trick is to separate our photographer selves from our viewer selves and go from there. Can we do it? Can we look at other photographs, or do the years seeing the world through a viewfinder ruin that for us? It should not ruin it for us, but as individuals we all have preferences and tastes in both subject and style. Certainly we can learn by trying to see thinngs differently than our own personal norm. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My Chicago photos (slide show with music, pre alpha)
Hi! Presently it contains 54 photos and music Paintings by Space. I still need to work on it make it fit the length of a sound track, however if you want to get a sense of what the final version will contain please download it from here: http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/chicago_pdml.exe This is executable (sorry, only Windows) that I made with the help of FSViewer... Any comments will be appreciated. P.S. From time to time I will upload a new version but the URL will remain the same. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Augenblick: Some shots and a controversial opinion
I like the clearer one. the blurriest one looks like a mistake, the clearer one looks like an effect. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Augenblick: Some shots and a controversial opinion On 2010-05-11 21:41, William Robb wrote: For myself, it was a terrific opportunity to get my work out there, even in a relatively small way. Had my shot been selected, I would've gladly paid just to have the print that Mark made. :-) I'm not wholly joking, here. Sure, it would've been nice to have my work out there, but it's very likely that my largest benefit would've been a beautiful Mark-print. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 01:40:06PM -0400, Tom C wrote:
Hi Doug, (take everything I say as not an argument, but more or less musing)
I don't know the history of Eggleston or how/why he became famous.
{snip, snip]
I called his photographs crappy because I found them largely devoid of
any discernible style or intent, and I did not find them aesthetically
pleasing. I did not enjoy the majority of them individually nor did I
see any cohesiveness as a group. If that was what he was shooting for,
he achieved it.
There probably has to be a little more to it than that, though.
The foregoing critique could pretty much describe most of my photography.
Perhaps the intent is apparent in my action photographs (of cyclists or of
race cars), but apart from that I produce snapshots rather than artwork.
But I'm happy with that (and that I'm not a famous photographer).
Perhaps that's part of it - if I tried to persuade you that my work had
artistic merit (whatever that may be) you would judge it more harshly.
(Again, not trying to be argumentative; just adding my musings to yours)
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Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
Well I'd like to buy my wife a K-x so I can use it. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you're wrong, mister ;-). If you'd written something like: When on the walk with my daughter, I don't want to have to haul too much weight 'cause I am too lazy then I might have agreed with you ;-). On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Translation: Having seen a K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy myself a new backup camera... --M. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
Hi John,
Are they really snapshots? Do you not expend some effort reaching the
locale, getting set up, in the right spot, using a desired focal
length lens, and then set aperture and shutter speed, and compose,
then fine-tune?
If so, then they're not really snapshots, to my way of thinking. While
maybe not what you would consider art, you must certainly have
criteria for judging how successful your shots are, and some you are
no doubt sublimely happy with, while others must be considered
failures, and the range between both ends of the spectrum.
Personally, liking cars and auto racing, I would consider a well
composed, thought out, aesthetically pleasing photo of a race car, a
work of art.
Tom C.
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 01:40:06PM -0400, Tom C wrote:
Hi Doug, (take everything I say as not an argument, but more or less musing)
I don't know the history of Eggleston or how/why he became famous.
{snip, snip]
I called his photographs crappy because I found them largely devoid of
any discernible style or intent, and I did not find them aesthetically
pleasing. I did not enjoy the majority of them individually nor did I
see any cohesiveness as a group. If that was what he was shooting for,
he achieved it.
There probably has to be a little more to it than that, though.
The foregoing critique could pretty much describe most of my photography.
Perhaps the intent is apparent in my action photographs (of cyclists or of
race cars), but apart from that I produce snapshots rather than artwork.
But I'm happy with that (and that I'm not a famous photographer).
Perhaps that's part of it - if I tried to persuade you that my work had
artistic merit (whatever that may be) you would judge it more harshly.
(Again, not trying to be argumentative; just adding my musings to yours)
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Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
I've kept my K20D after getting a K-7, but only because I'm too busy or lazy to sell it. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Well I'd like to buy my wife a K-x so I can use it. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you're wrong, mister ;-). If you'd written something like: When on the walk with my daughter, I don't want to have to haul too much weight 'cause I am too lazy then I might have agreed with you ;-). On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Translation: Having seen a K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy myself a new backup camera... --M. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: software misfeature of the K-x
Untrue, David. Take apart a Pentax K10D shutter/mirror/iris actuation assembly sometime and you'll see how it's put together. It's not servos ... it's springs and levers. As are virtually all SLR shutter assemblies. My friend at the local camera repair shop has them apart on the bench all the time. I haven't seen one yet with servo actuation setup to mirror, shutter and iris actuator. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:20 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Mirror, shutter, and aperture control are not mechanically linked in modern dSLRs. They are separately actuated using servos. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Augenblick: Some shots and a controversial opinion
Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-05-11 21:41, William Robb wrote: For myself, it was a terrific opportunity to get my work out there, even in a relatively small way. Had my shot been selected, I would've gladly paid just to have the print that Mark made. :-) I'm not wholly joking, here. Sure, it would've been nice to have my work out there, but it's very likely that my largest benefit would've been a beautiful Mark-print. :-) I'm looking forward very much to seeing my own personal Markachrome. :) I wish I could have seen it in the context of all the other wonderful prints, but I'll settle for my one-off. I just hope the shipping fee isn't too bank-breaking. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
On 2010-05-12 9:49, Boris Liberman wrote: Presently I feel ever so slightly tired but nothing to really worry about. That's the way I've always done it: 1. Sleep on the flight if possible (always possible for me) 2. Don't sleep at the destination until (almost) my regular time 3. Eat all meals at destination on destination time, starting as soon as I land Doing it this way, especially going east, I'm a bit tired the next day, but after that I'm switched over to destination time. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - PDML Refusés
Here are mine: The one that was selected: http://NutDriver.org/AtTheReady.jpg The ones that weren't: http://NutDriver.org/CleaningCrew.jpg http://NutDriver.org/HotAssist.jpg -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My Chicago
Tim, I think you're the only pdml'er I didn't meet on Friday...tall guy in the back of the room??? I'm sorry about that. I enjoyed your gallery and am especially happy you found the restaurant on the 95th floor of the John Hancock Building. Lunch there is the most economic way to enjoy the view without having to pay for the entrance fee to the observation deck. And because it's so close to the lake, the view is spectacular - much better than the observation deck on the Sears (Willis) tower. I like the first shot in your gallery for the height it conveys and the way you use the adjacent building to focus attention on the subject. I think you got around some and picked up on some of the old iron and structures around town. The Banksy is a great find. I never knew about it. And I hadn't seen our Picasso 'horse' in hockey headgear, but we have a history of dressing our sculptures up for the playoffs. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: My trip to Chicago was relatively unsuccessful aside from the couple of hours I got to spend with the PDMLers, but I did manage to take a couple of snaps that avoided the quick cull. The slide-show is at http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/ (only 8) but since I can't figure out how to make Lightroom put individual labels on its slideshow output, here are the ones that deserve a little more comment: From the restaurant on the 95th floor of the Hancock - instead of paying $15 and up to look at the view from the observatory, you can buy a very decent lunch for about the same unless you drink which I did of course and the view is really extraordinary: http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089239_large.html I'm pretty sure this is a Banksy, the first live one I've ever seen: http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089241_large.html The big Picasso downtown, dressed for the hockey playoffs: http://www.tbray.org/pdml/Chicago-May-2010/content/PS089257_large.html -Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso - Chicago
Sasha Sobol wrote: http://flickriver.com/photos/sobol/tags/chicago/ Nice set! I love that shot of Jostein. I assume that the shots with the blurry outside were done with the lensbaby? --Sasha -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
Well I'd like to buy my wife a K-x so I can use it. MARK! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7? Well I'd like to buy my wife a K-x so I can use it. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you're wrong, mister ;-). If you'd written something like: When on the walk with my daughter, I don't want to have to haul too much weight 'cause I am too lazy then I might have agreed with you ;-). On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Translation: Having seen a K-x in Chicago makes me wanna buy myself a new backup camera... --M. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Chicago photos (slide show with music, pre alpha)
Boris, how big is the file? Jostein 2010/5/12 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: Hi! Presently it contains 54 photos and music Paintings by Space. I still need to work on it make it fit the length of a sound track, however if you want to get a sense of what the final version will contain please download it from here: http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/chicago_pdml.exe This is executable (sorry, only Windows) that I made with the help of FSViewer... Any comments will be appreciated. P.S. From time to time I will upload a new version but the URL will remain the same. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
On 12/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I ended up consoling myself with Giordano's pizza. I still love you man, and I've never even met you. Seen your stomach on a webcam sure, but never met you. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
Cotty wrote: On 12/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I ended up consoling myself with Giordano's pizza. I still love you man, and I've never even met you. Seen your stomach on a webcam sure, but never met you. That, my friend, is my mighty pizza muscle. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO squatters
On 12/5/10, Madame RD, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/la_meduse/4601435482/ Formidable! Je l'aime. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - After the Storm
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Re: software misfeature of the K-x
On Wed, 12 May 2010 18:27 +0200, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: I've set my K20D so that it takes all bracketing shots with a single push on the release button (Custom Setting #8) and the K-7 can also act that way (Custom Setting #7). On the K200D, one press of the shutter release takes all three exposures. In fact that seems to be the only way it operates - there's no custom function that I can find to change it, unlike on the K20D and K7. Larry, is there no custom function on your K-x to change the way bracketing operates? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What Makes a Good Photograph? Was: Chicago
Tom C wrote: As I said, I think the PDML exhibit in Chicago was a far better collection of images than the Eggleston exhibit. That's my opinion. For instance I saw nothing artistic or good about the photographs of a pile of garbage or the black porcelain interior of an oven. There were half a dozen to a dozen photos at Eggleston that I really liked. While I can empathize with his finding beauty in the mundane, those photos work better on their own than mixed in with 150 others. Also, our photos had the advantage of each photographer going through a year's worth of photos to pick their three best from the year. Then Mark went through those and picked one or two of their best. Then Sue went through and picked 45 of those. So each photograph was by some measure, the best of the best of the best. Meanwhile, Eggleston had something like 30 from one day in Carter's hometown. I don't care who you are, nobody in one day is going to crank out 30 photos of the caliber of most of the pictures in the PDML exhibition. Maybe none of our best photos match Eggleston's best, and maybe he'll get 30 in a year of the quality that we aspire to get a few of each year, but of those 30, I'd say that there were maybe three worth showing. Granted, his goal wasn't 30 great shots, it was a set to convey the feeling of that one town. Another advantage that we had is the 40 or so years of state of the art, both artistic and technologic between when his pictures were taken and when ours were. I don't know if I could do what he did, using the equipment that he did. I've also had the benefit of looking at pictures taken by people who have looked at all the pictures taken between then and now. It's probably easier to define a bad photograph as opposed to a good one. A bad photograph is one that a person sees once and never cares to look at again. Unless the photo was meant to evoke a negative response, perhaps like the famous one of the vietnamese officer executing a prisoner. The reason someone may not want to see it again could have everything to do with what makes it a great photo. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mini PDML Paris
On 12/5/10, Christian Skofteland, discombobulated, unleashed: Speaking of Paris... I'll actually be in Paris for two weeks (for work) starting May 16th. Send me an off-list email if you want to try to get together for a few hours some afternoon. Cotty is actually trying to show up for a day next week. I am :) but it's 50/50 whether it will actually happen :( I'm waiting for a large invoice to be paid and I thought it might be this week, but looking unlikely now, more likely next week. If it's early next week we're in business :) If later next week we're not :( Oh the joys of running a business. On the chance that I do get paid in time, looking at an evening get- together for a meal, either Friday the 21st or Saturday the 22nd. If I can make it, I plan to arrive Thursday the 20th for 2 nights. Christian is committed (well we knew that didn't we) during the days so it's evening-only for him. However, for anyone else let's walk-n-snap? I'm sorry I can't give a 100% at this time but c'est la vie unh? All welcome, even Ralph wearing a hat made out of an umbrella. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JetLag 0, Boris 1
On 12/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: That, my friend, is my mighty pizza muscle. You should see my beer muscle. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My Chicago photos (slide show with music, pre alpha)
Boris, I'm reluctant to download an executable from anyone. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Presently it contains 54 photos and music Paintings by Space. I still need to work on it make it fit the length of a sound track, however if you want to get a sense of what the final version will contain please download it from here: http://liberman-family.com/boris/chicago_2010/chicago_pdml.exe This is executable (sorry, only Windows) that I made with the help of FSViewer... Any comments will be appreciated. P.S. From time to time I will upload a new version but the URL will remain the same. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
