Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web
I'm sure its a good photo Bruce. Dave On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately. Anyway, here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden. In case you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider. Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chives
I think it works well. I'm led to the subject not the background, so i don't find it to strong. Dave On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was idling around in the back your in the area of my wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I noticed this plant. I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for some equipment. I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover and give it a background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot this a f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber background. I blurred and darkened it, and reduced the spotty look. I asked my wife what it was and she said they're chives that should have been picked prior to reaching this stage. Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on the right. Thought it about time I offered something. Jack Comments welcome, of course. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527 K20, f/2.8, 1/4000, ISO 400, da50~...@123mm, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO today's photowalk
Love the colour, composition and DOF on the first two. I did not look at all of the third, sorry, but I'm sure its a good shot.:-) Dave On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: I didn't have much time to take pictures or read the pdml mail in the last weeks. I marked all my mail as read and grabbed my DA35 and new Metz ringflash for a photowalk: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/148-photowalk Hope you like it. Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: RIP Cattywumpuss
Stan, I'm sorry to hear that. I myself got two of my lovely rats passing away (one 6 months ago, the other one 4 weeks ago). I know how you feel :( I looked at your pic you listed and it was definitely a beautiful cat. Best regards, -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
2010/9/2 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: You need a license to own a gun, but they let anyone shoot at ISO 6400. Mark =) Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Curveball
There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good things that I'm showing it anyway. ;-) http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice). Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good long time there with a zoom getting more shots. *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: September PUG is up
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: It's here: http://pug.komkon.org/ On the 1st! (At least for some of the world.) Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me. Without his gentle reminders I'd still be 3 months behind. The entire gallery this month is digital. No film. I think this is only the second time that has occurred. There are probably more two-wheeled contraptions in this gallery than in all the prior galleries combined. You'll see why. Pete McIntosh's is my favorite. There are currently no submissions for October or November. http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=20 Good night. Sleep tight. Yay, Scott! Wonderful gallery. Too many faves to choose just one. Gotta start looking for an October entry. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
As much as I enjoy this, I probably should 'fess up. A friend of a friend had a K7 and kindly let me try it with my own SD card. I tired exactly what Mis. mentioned, i.e., I took a few correctly exposed shots at 1600, 3200, and 6400. I was more than satisfied in that I probably won't try anything worse than that. (I can only imagine what the Kx can do if this is what people consider unacceptable.) This being said, I hadn't realized how much the K7 was similar in form factor to the D/DS with some extra weight. I also tried some difficult exposure situations and was pleasantly surprised as how god it was. That is probably more important to me than the really high iso performance. At least for now. BTW, I think Mis and Boris both have legitimate points. One big difference is always what the shooter considers acceptable, and, as they say, there is no dispute in matters of taste. My K7 will arrive today. Thanks for all the advice folks. I am giddy in anticipation. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web
Crisp with well chosen DoF. Jack --- On Wed, 9/1/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: PESO - Charlotte's Web To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 8:14 PM I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately. Anyway, here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden. In case you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider. Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chives
Thanks, Dave! I consider it a modest effort. Jack --- On Wed, 9/1/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Chives To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:43 PM I think it works well. I'm led to the subject not the background, so i don't find it to strong. Dave On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was idling around in the back your in the area of my wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I noticed this plant. I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for some equipment. I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover and give it a background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot this a f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber background. I blurred and darkened it, and reduced the spotty look. I asked my wife what it was and she said they're chives that should have been picked prior to reaching this stage. Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on the right. Thought it about time I offered something. Jack Comments welcome, of course. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527 K20, f/2.8, 1/4000, ISO 400, da50~...@123mm, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curveball
Your versatility is showing, Frank. ;) Jack --- On Thu, 9/2/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Curveball To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 4:07 AM There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good things that I'm showing it anyway. ;-) http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice). Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good long time there with a zoom getting more shots. *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curveball
I think it is a fine image, Frank. I like the dof, the position of the ball, the expression on the pitcher's face, and the posture of the fielder to the left of the pitcher. The fielder or runner behind the pitcher is a bit distracting, but we work in an imperfect world and must take it as it is. I think this image does a great job of portraying the scene and the action. Dan On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:07 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good things that I'm showing it anyway. ;-) http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice). Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good long time there with a zoom getting more shots. *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web
That is a very effective image, Bruce. Dan On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately. Anyway, here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden. In case you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider. Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO today's photowalk
Yes I should have posted a spider warning. For a spider she has very nice colours and is non toxic. Thanks for looking Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct? I imagine this would be a golden opportunity for all the third party vendors to collaborate with Adobe and use this as a marketing tool: Buy Tamsigmina lenses, not only are we cheaper than the OEM equivalents, we also don't seem so crap once all our imperfections are automatically fixed in Photoshop and Lightroom! Note: For those without a sense of humour, let me explain that I don't hate thrird party lenses. In fact, some of my best friends are third party lenses. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO today's photowalk
On 2 September 2010 10:08, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Yes I should have posted a spider warning. For a spider she has very nice colours and is non toxic. Thanks for looking Toine The spider is the best; such great light. And I commend you for not turning the saturation knob to 11 (or 111%, as the case may be). As far as composition and story-telling go, the fly is my favourite. I love wide open, empty(ish) frames. And the title is spot on, I fully expect to see the fly jump off, do a double backwards flip and dive into the pond. Which Metz flash did you use? --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom v3.2 and Camera Raw v6.2 are released
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi You should convince her to set the Camera Raw Cache Settings to the default location. A cache size of 1 to 4 Gbytes is about right for most users. In Lightroom 3.2, this setting is in the Lightroom Preferences dialog, File Handling tab panel. Without being specific, because I didn't know exactly what was causing it, I'd already suggested pretty much that ... whatever was creating the cache files was set to desktop when it should be set to a folder. But it seems like one of those things where she'd rather bitch about it than listen to anything an old man might suggest. I've offered my idea and she can do what she wants. I'm going to let it go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO today's photowalk
Thanks. I used the Metz 15MS-1 on the spider. You can attach it on the DA35 but the lens is to fragile to support the flash. I hold the flash in my left hand somewhere around the lens which makes flash possible at 1:1 on the DA35 Toine On 2 September 2010 16:32, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 September 2010 10:08, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: Yes I should have posted a spider warning. For a spider she has very nice colours and is non toxic. Thanks for looking Toine The spider is the best; such great light. And I commend you for not turning the saturation knob to 11 (or 111%, as the case may be). As far as composition and story-telling go, the fly is my favourite. I love wide open, empty(ish) frames. And the title is spot on, I fully expect to see the fly jump off, do a double backwards flip and dive into the pond. Which Metz flash did you use? --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curveball
Frank, Love the good things, especially the ball with stiching. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:07 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good things that I'm showing it anyway. ;-) http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice). Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good long time there with a zoom getting more shots. *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curveball
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:07 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good things that I'm showing it anyway. ;-) http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice). Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good long time there with a zoom getting more shots. *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank I think the tight composition actually works in your favour, so 200mm was fine. The ball is placed perfectly in the frame, and at an unbelievable angle to show the stitches, so I call Photoshop! (Yes Frank, I know you didn't.) But while on the subject of Photoshop, if you were unscrupulous, you would clone out the kid behind the pitcher, which I imagine is one of the things you don't like about this image. Despite that, I think the DoF is small enough that the picture still works as is, and I like it a lot. Cheers, --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: September PUG is up
On 1 September 2010 23:02, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: It's here: http://pug.komkon.org/ On the 1st! (At least for some of the world.) Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me. Without his gentle reminders I'd still be 3 months behind. The entire gallery this month is digital. No film. I think this is only the second time that has occurred. There are probably more two-wheeled contraptions in this gallery than in all the prior galleries combined. You'll see why. Pete McIntosh's is my favorite. There are currently no submissions for October or November. http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=20 Good night. Sleep tight. -- Scott Loveless I'm also surprised at how many K10D's were used. I knew it was Frank's pic the moment it came up; no need to look at the name :-) Not sure I have a fave; they all rock in their own way(s). --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
From: Miserere 2) The K10D IS NOT RUBBISH at ISO 1600! People say all the time that the K10D is bad in low light, but never explain what this means. If by low light you mean not enough light to achieve correct exposure, then yes, the K10D falls short when you underexpose and then try to recover an underexposed image. However, if by low light you mean light so low that you need to use ISO 1600 for correct exposure, then no, the K10D is not bad. When proper exposure is achieved, the K10D works very well at ISO 1600: I've seen many shitty ISO 1600 shots from K10D's, and invariably they were shot by someone who didn't know how to shoot the K10D at high ISO, meaning they underexposed their images and then increased the exposure in postprocessing. High ISO shooting is a whole 'nother game, and I suspect it's different for each camera, but there's certainly a learning curve that most photographers don't crawl up before announcing to the World that a particular camera is bad at high ISO. I think it depends on the example of K10D you have. I did not find ISO 1600 usable in very low light on my own K10D. ANY camera at ANY ISO will give piss poor results if you try to recover an under-exposed image in post processing. My experience is you can MAYBE rescue 1/3 - 2/3 stop if you're really, really good at post processing and just don't have any choice ... but I don't rely on it. I prefer to get exposure right in the camera. And when I did so at ISO 1600, my K10D just gave me unsatisfactory performance. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
John Sessoms wrote: I prefer to get exposure right in the camera. That's always the right thing. And when I did so at ISO 1600, my K10D just gave me unsatisfactory performance. Performance is the kingdom of relativity. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
Mis, I agree with you entirely, with one caveat: The K10D has a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often screwed up nocturnal landscape shots. Sometimes I could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 9/1/10, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K7 or Kx To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 10:28 PM On 1 September 2010 11:02, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, if camera has highest ISO of 3200, it usually means that it is unusable, but ISO 800 is pretty ok. So, if highest ISO is 12,800 (or even 102,400) it probably means that ISO 3200 (or 32,000) is usable. It is like fuel consumption figures of cars of battery longevity of cell phones. It is all lies, but it is still (co)rel(l)ated to the real world in a manner of speaking... Boris I'm going to disagree here, and also qualify some comments that are being thrown around haphazardly in this thread (and all over the internet): 1) On some cameras, the maximum ISO is unusable, but that is not a universal truth. For example, on the K100D and K10D the maximum ISO is highly usable and of very good quality. There are probably other cameras out there for which this is true, but I can speak of these two cameras with user knowledge. 2) The K10D IS NOT RUBBISH at ISO 1600! People say all the time that the K10D is bad in low light, but never explain what this means. If by low light you mean not enough light to achieve correct exposure, then yes, the K10D falls short when you underexpose and then try to recover an underexposed image. However, if by low light you mean light so low that you need to use ISO 1600 for correct exposure, then no, the K10D is not bad. When proper exposure is achieved, the K10D works very well at ISO 1600: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_i6tc3TCyOTA/StaFNYxyztI/CqA/ZjR63tKSk9M/s800/IMGP6109-small.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/Miserere/SP1U3Ik6lTI/BrA/XBLIMplJLv0/s800/IMGP0313-small.jpg http://lh4.ggpht.com/Miserere/SP1U4StRHeI/Brg/Vthl6szbqvk/s800/IMGP0345-small.jpg http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00V/00VgZv-217447584.jpg The same is true for the K100D Super at ISO 3200: http://picasaweb.google.com/Miserere/TheFranklinKiteTTTheBearS20August2009#5389958172780052770 http://picasaweb.google.com/Miserere/TheFranklinKiteTTTheBearS20August2009#5389958224218569394 http://picasaweb.google.com/Miserere/TheFranklinKiteTTTheBearS20August2009#5389958203791795010 I've seen many shitty ISO 1600 shots from K10D's, and invariably they were shot by someone who didn't know how to shoot the K10D at high ISO, meaning they underexposed their images and then increased the exposure in postprocessing. High ISO shooting is a whole 'nother game, and I suspect it's different for each camera, but there's certainly a learning curve that most photographers don't crawl up before announcing to the World that a particular camera is bad at high ISO. You need a license to own a gun, but they let anyone shoot at ISO 6400. Rant over. And it wasn't directed at you, Boris. Sorry that your message was the one I replied to. Cheers, --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote: Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct? I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but NOT the original 18-55 kit lens. At least, it's unable to detect that as the lens used in shots I made with it. Or could it be the combination of K-7 and original kit lens which gets LR confused? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
Rick Womer wrote: Mis, I agree with you entirely, with one caveat: The K10D has a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often screwed up nocturnal landscape shots. Sometimes I could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not. That was dubbed the Italian flag syndrome over here, as it looks like an Italian flag superimposed filter. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses. No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR. 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote: Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct? I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but NOT the original 18-55 kit lens. At least, it's unable to detect that as the lens used in shots I made with it. Or could it be the combination of K-7 and original kit lens which gets LR confused? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
I meant 645 of course ;) 2010/9/2, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses. No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR. 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote: Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct? I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but NOT the original 18-55 kit lens. At least, it's unable to detect that as the lens used in shots I made with it. Or could it be the combination of K-7 and original kit lens which gets LR confused? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Vaporware
Thanks a lot, Dave. Dario - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:06 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Vaporware On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Larry Colen (Droid Mail) l...@red4est.com wrote: Awesome tones and sharpness, gorgeous woman, and I love the expression on the guy. It's almost two completely different photos that would each stand on their own, Totally agree Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
On 2 September 2010 11:43, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Mis, I agree with you entirely, with one caveat: The K10D has a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often screwed up nocturnal landscape shots. Sometimes I could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not. Rick That's a whole 'nother can of worms, Rick. And yes, the banding could be there and be annoying at times, but only in the underexposed sections of the frame. I imagine bokeh lovers noticed it the most ;-) --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Vaporware
On 2 September 2010 12:06, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Thanks a lot, Dave. Dario Nice photo...but the guy behind the woman is freaking me out!!! Well seen, Dario. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom v3.2 and Camera Raw v6.2 are released
Such it is. I've experimented with the cache size on my system further. For my size catalog ... 78,000 image files ... 10G seems to be the balance point between providing better speed and not consuming more disk space than necessary. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:44 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi You should convince her to set the Camera Raw Cache Settings to the default location. A cache size of 1 to 4 Gbytes is about right for most users. In Lightroom 3.2, this setting is in the Lightroom Preferences dialog, File Handling tab panel. Without being specific, because I didn't know exactly what was causing it, I'd already suggested pretty much that ... whatever was creating the cache files was set to desktop when it should be set to a folder. But it seems like one of those things where she'd rather bitch about it than listen to anything an old man might suggest. I've offered my idea and she can do what she wants. I'm going to let it go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
LR3.2 has profiles for the Samsung 18-55 and 50-200. You can manually select these profiles Toine On 2 September 2010 17:44, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote: Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct? I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but NOT the original 18-55 kit lens. At least, it's unable to detect that as the lens used in shots I made with it. Or could it be the combination of K-7 and original kit lens which gets LR confused? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
Don't give me that. I know a lensist when a see one. Note: For those without a sense of humour, let me explain that I don't hate thrird party lenses. In fact, some of my best friends are third party lenses. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
From: Dario Bonazza Rick Womer wrote: Mis, I agree with you entirely, with one caveat: The K10D has a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often screwed up nocturnal landscape shots. Sometimes I could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not. That was dubbed the Italian flag syndrome over here, as it looks like an Italian flag superimposed filter. Googled Vertical Pattern Noise Pentax K10D and lo behold ... yeah, that's what I saw that made ISO 1600 un-usable on mine. It was even there at ISO 800, but not so much. Never a problem at ISO 400 and below. So, is there any special post processing noise reduction trick that can overcome this? Maybe I could make the high ISO usable if I could remove the noise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: September PUG is up
It's here: http://pug.komkon.org/ On the 1st! (At least for some of the world.) Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me. Without his gentle reminders I'd still be 3 months behind. The entire gallery this month is digital. No film. I think this is only the second time that has occurred. There are probably more two-wheeled contraptions in this gallery than in all the prior galleries combined. You'll see why. Pete McIntosh's is my favorite. There are currently no submissions for October or November. http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=20 Good night. Sleep tight. G'night Johnboy! Great gallery from Walton's Mountain this month. The stand-out shots for me are by Carl Gjersem, Dag, annsan and Pete McIntosh. The 'recognised who did it without even looking' award goes to Frank! Here's my non-Pentax contribution, taken in Liskeard, Cornwall last month (my bike): http://www.web-options.com/Sunnydene/content/images/large/_8167523.jpg The interesting question arising from the one by Pete is 'how does one turn right or left?'. Today I found myself in one of those horrible separated cycle lanes in London and it was practically impossible to do the right turn (left to most people!) I wanted. The gallery is very timely - I cycled to from work today for the first time in my new job. I haven't bike-commuted into the centre of London since 1998. It's amazing how it's changed. Back then there were relatively few people doing it; today it was incredible, like joining a swarm. There are some very competitive people out there, and the pace is incredible. Very enjoyable though, and 50% faster (including shower) than the fastest public transport I've tried. And over £2,000 per year cheaper. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote: Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses. No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR. I wonder where my Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens profile came from? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
Great shot. I get the sense that Rocky could be enticed to let you have the run of the place in exchange for a Kong Ball filled with peanut butter. On 9/2/2010 2:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
Like this, Peter. The fence works well in this case. Nice conversion! Jack --- On Thu, 9/2/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 12:09 PM I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
Excellent composition. Interesting subject. I like the camera/lens combo you're using. I frequently used that lens with my *istD. It's a nice, compact package. Paul On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
Advertising slogan not withstanding, you can still try... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20youcankillahorsebutnotacadalac%281905%29.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M-40mm f2.8 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Doug's book
Rick Womer wrote: Six; but not delivered yet. Nine. But not ordered yet. 8-)) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
Those are OIS lenses which means NX lenses. Probably not the same optical formula, so I wouldn't use those at all. 2010/9/2, Toine to...@repiuk.nl: LR3.2 has profiles for the Samsung 18-55 and 50-200. You can manually select these profiles Toine On 2 September 2010 17:44, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:27, Miserere wrote: Good to hear that Tamron are releasing those secret numbers to Adobe so automatic distortion, chromatic aberration and vignetting correction will be applied to all Tammy lenses. If I remember correctly, none of the big brands turned over their profiles, correct? I was disappointed to see that v3.2 has profiles for most Pentax lenses but NOT the original 18-55 kit lens. At least, it's unable to detect that as the lens used in shots I made with it. Or could it be the combination of K-7 and original kit lens which gets LR confused? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
You may have added it yourself. I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web. I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645. 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote: Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses. No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR. I wonder where my Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens profile came from? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to each his own! Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
The D-Li90 takes forever to charge, i.e., the light won't go out. I did take a few not fully charged shots of my dog: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=IMGP0023.jpg On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: As much as I enjoy this, I probably should 'fess up. A friend of a friend had a K7 and kindly let me try it with my own SD card. I tired exactly what Mis. mentioned, i.e., I took a few correctly exposed shots at 1600, 3200, and 6400. I was more than satisfied in that I probably won't try anything worse than that. (I can only imagine what the Kx can do if this is what people consider unacceptable.) This being said, I hadn't realized how much the K7 was similar in form factor to the D/DS with some extra weight. I also tried some difficult exposure situations and was pleasantly surprised as how god it was. That is probably more important to me than the really high iso performance. At least for now. BTW, I think Mis and Boris both have legitimate points. One big difference is always what the shooter considers acceptable, and, as they say, there is no dispute in matters of taste. My K7 will arrive today. Thanks for all the advice folks. I am giddy in anticipation. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I hate my K10D's AF
Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
It was rusty iron. On 9/2/2010 4:38 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to each his own! Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ot: a play on words a day keeps the doctor away PUN warning , one photo reference
This is for Ann, not good enough to be a PESO really, and not particularly subtle either... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/mb%26t.html On 8/26/2010 12:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: These may have been seen by some -- I have a particularly good source for stuff like this Enjoy - ann A man's home is his castle, in a manor of speaking. Dijon vu - the same mustard as before. Practice safe eating - always use condiments. Shotgun wedding - A case of wife or death. A man needs a mistress just to break the monogamy. A hangover is the wrath of grapes. Dancing cheek-to-cheek is really a form of floor play. Does the name Pavlov ring a bell? Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion. Reading while sunbathing makes you well red. When two egotists meet, it's an I for an I. A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two tired. What's the definition of a will? (It's a dead give away.) Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. In democracy your vote counts. In feudalism your count votes. She was engaged to a boyfriend with a wooden leg but broke it off. A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion. If you don't pay your exorcist, you get repossessed. With her marriage, she got a new name and a dress. The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered. You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it. Local Area Network in Australia - the LAN down under. Every calendar's days are numbered. A lot of money is tainted - Taint yours and taint mine. A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat. He had a photographic memory that was never developed. A midget fortune-teller who escapes from prison is a small medium at large. Once you've seen one shopping center, you've seen a mall. Bakers trade bread recipes on a knead-to-know basis. Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses. Acupuncture is a jab well done. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
Looks like rusted steel to me. On 9/2/2010 4:38 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to each his own! Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
AF C or AF S Dave On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chives
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Dave! I consider it a modest effort. Jack Well, they are just chives, not Spanish onions.:-) Dave --- On Wed, 9/1/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Chives To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:43 PM I think it works well. I'm led to the subject not the background, so i don't find it to strong. Dave On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was idling around in the back your in the area of my wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I noticed this plant. I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for some equipment. I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover and give it a background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot this a f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber background. I blurred and darkened it, and reduced the spotty look. I asked my wife what it was and she said they're chives that should have been picked prior to reaching this stage. Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on the right. Thought it about time I offered something. Jack Comments welcome, of course. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527 K20, f/2.8, 1/4000, ISO 400, da50~...@123mm, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curveball
Well done Frank.You have caught the picture and ball pretty darn well. Dave On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:07 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good things that I'm showing it anyway. ;-) http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice). Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good long time there with a zoom getting more shots. *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
No I didn't add it, must have slipstreamed with the 3.3 update. Also didn't try the profiles. I did try the Tamron 18-250 profiles. Several versions are listed. Some make vignetting worse. Found one ok profile. Toine On 2 September 2010 22:31, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You may have added it yourself. I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web. I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645. 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote: Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses. No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR. I wonder where my Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens profile came from? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
On Sep 2, 2010, at 15:51, Steven Desjardins wrote: The D-Li90 takes forever to charge, i.e., the light won't go out. I did take a few not fully charged shots of my dog: http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=IMGP0023.jpg Future charges won't take anywhere near as long, or at least that has been my experience! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... Oh, Mark . . . I've been there. I feel your pain. Well, not really, but I remember feeling your pain. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:59 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: AF C or AF S Dave On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
Probably AF-C knowing myself but I can't say 100% Thanks Ecke 2010/9/2 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: AF C or AF S Dave On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:52 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
Mmm but 3.2 is the latest version released just days ago... Something's fishy... The Tamron profiles finishing with a P at the end are Pentax versions. 2010/9/2, Toine to...@repiuk.nl: No I didn't add it, must have slipstreamed with the 3.3 update. Also didn't try the profiles. I did try the Tamron 18-250 profiles. Several versions are listed. Some make vignetting worse. Found one ok profile. Toine On 2 September 2010 22:31, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You may have added it yourself. I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web. I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645. 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote: Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses. No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR. I wonder where my Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens profile came from? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
They did make progress, clearly. But AF-C, with objects going from or to the camera are still Pentax AF nightmare. K7 AF-S is much better than K10 though. 2010/9/2, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
On 9/2/2010 4:54 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Looks like rusted steel to me. On 9/2/2010 4:38 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: I wouldn't think a copper pipe would make a great tire iron, but to each his own! Darren Addy Kearney, NE GEEZ how many times will I answer this damned question? (Three so far). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Crab Apples
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/apples.jpg (20%) http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/apples2.jpg (100%) I decided to stick my son's Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 135/3.5 on the K-X. Hand-held. ISO 200, Av mode. jpg file format. Metering is in averaging mode, so with the sky and brees I had to over-expose about 1 1/3 stops, iirc. Nice color saturation. Better than the K100D. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
2010/9/2 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: They did make progress, clearly. But AF-C, with objects going from or to the camera are still Pentax AF nightmare. K7 AF-S is much better than K10 though. It seems to me like AF doesn't pick something to follow but will just randomly focus on the highest contrast item closest to any given focus point with a slight preference for the more central ones. This usually doesn't mean faces etc. I have many perfectly focused shots of hand rails and seat backs... Thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
On 3 September 2010 07:19, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: GEEZ how many times will I answer this damned question? (Three so far). If it's soldered or brazed plumbing pipe then it's probably not iron or steel. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
No I never learned how to use a keyboard :) On 2 September 2010 23:19, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Mmm but 3.2 is the latest version released just days ago... Something's fishy... The Tamron profiles finishing with a P at the end are Pentax versions. 2010/9/2, Toine to...@repiuk.nl: No I didn't add it, must have slipstreamed with the 3.3 update. Also didn't try the profiles. I did try the Tamron 18-250 profiles. Several versions are listed. Some make vignetting worse. Found one ok profile. Toine On 2 September 2010 22:31, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: You may have added it yourself. I did with a profile for K7+DA*50-135 I found on the web. I just checked my LR3.2 install, no Pentax lenses profiles but FA/DFA 645. 2010/9/2, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com: On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:54, Thibouille wrote: Charles, LR 3.2 only has profiles for Pentax 534 FA/DFA lenses. No other Pentax lens profiles are bundled AFAIR. I wonder where my Pentax DA 18-55 Kit Lens profile came from? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
On 9/2/2010 5:36 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 3 September 2010 07:19, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: GEEZ how many times will I answer this damned question? (Three so far). If it's soldered or brazed plumbing pipe then it's probably not iron or steel. It was the pipe that came with the scissors jack AFAICT -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
A rusty iron pipe with a shut-off valve? Piece of copper water pipe, fess up. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:37 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/2/2010 5:36 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 3 September 2010 07:19, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: GEEZ how many times will I answer this damned question? (Three so far). If it's soldered or brazed plumbing pipe then it's probably not iron or steel. It was the pipe that came with the scissors jack AFAICT -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: A rusty iron pipe with a shut-off valve? Piece of copper water pipe, fess up. Actually, my old house has a fair amount of rusty iron pipe with shut-off valves. Scared to try turning one of them. Random thought: Title would have been funnier if there was a smoking gun pointed at the tire blowout. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
On Sep 2, 2010, at 15:31, Thibouille wrote: You may have added it yourself. Freaky. I remember adding someone's DA*16-50 (works great) but not the kit. Old age is rotting my memory... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
The K7 can handle that easily in either S or C mode. On Sep 2, 2010, at 4:52 PM, eckinator wrote: Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
No, but it might make you feel a little better if you shot it anyway. ;) Jack --- On Thu, 9/2/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905). To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 12:53 PM Advertising slogan not withstanding, you can still try... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20youcankillahorsebutnotacadalac%281905%29.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M-40mm f2.8 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chives
I'd eat either or both in sour cream on a backed potato. Jack --- On Thu, 9/2/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Chives To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 2:00 PM On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Dave! I consider it a modest effort. Jack Well, they are just chives, not Spanish onions.:-) Dave --- On Wed, 9/1/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Chives To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:43 PM I think it works well. I'm led to the subject not the background, so i don't find it to strong. Dave On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was idling around in the back your in the area of my wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I noticed this plant. I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for some equipment. I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover and give it a background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot this a f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber background. I blurred and darkened it, and reduced the spotty look. I asked my wife what it was and she said they're chives that should have been picked prior to reaching this stage. Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on the right. Thought it about time I offered something. Jack Comments welcome, of course. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527 K20, f/2.8, 1/4000, ISO 400, da50~...@123mm, hand held -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K7 or Kx
What the VPN screwed up the most for me was shots of beautifully illuminated buildings or cityscapes against a dusk or nighttime sky. Sometimes diddling with the white balance has helped, but usually it didn't. Rick --- On Thu, 9/2/10, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 September 2010 11:43, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Mis, I agree with you entirely, with one caveat: The K10D has a problem with VPN (vertical pattern noise), which often screwed up nocturnal landscape shots. Sometimes I could make it go away with LR, but sometimes not. Rick That's a whole 'nother can of worms, Rick. And yes, the banding could be there and be annoying at times, but only in the underexposed sections of the frame. I imagine bokeh lovers noticed it the most ;-) --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- You Can Kill a Horse but not a Cadillac (1905).
Actually, my old house has a fair amount of rusty iron pipe with shut-off valves. Scared to try turning one of them. You folks know how to live on the edge there in Nebraska. ;-) On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:51 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: A rusty iron pipe with a shut-off valve? Piece of copper water pipe, fess up. Actually, my old house has a fair amount of rusty iron pipe with shut-off valves. Scared to try turning one of them. Random thought: Title would have been funnier if there was a smoking gun pointed at the tire blowout. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Boston
I went to meeting in Boston last week. Pedaling in the fitness room after dinner and saw this view out the window. Got my E-P1 from the room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the glass. http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=bostoncity.jpg E-P1, Lumix 20 mm, f1.7, 1/40 s iso 1600 -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron's lenses to be auto corrected in Adobe CS5 and LR3
I'm waiting for the day when I can buy lousy lenses and have PS fix the pics. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Sep 2, 2010, at 15:31, Thibouille wrote: You may have added it yourself. Freaky. I remember adding someone's DA*16-50 (works great) but not the kit. Old age is rotting my memory... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
I love it. I'm one of those people that has warm feelings about junkyards. On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Storm in the East
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:40 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: (incidentally, this is just down the road from home - my house is behind the trees on the top left). http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP8095peso.html (K200D; 16-45mm DA; ISO 400; f16; 1/60sec) very nice - I like the pattern of the furrows, if that's what they are. I think they were just patterns in the grass left over from mowing the paddock. Thanks to everyone who looked/commented. Very much appreciated. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I love it. I'm one of those people that has warm feelings about junkyards. Would you like to talk about that? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
I was helping a friend use my K20D a few weeks ago. I had forgotten how craptacularly slow the AF was. The AF on the D700 is awesome... DS On 3 September 2010 04:52, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO today's photowalk
On 2010-09-01 08:36 , Toine wrote: I didn't have much time to take pictures or read the pdml mail in the last weeks. I marked all my mail as read and grabbed my DA35 and new Metz ringflash for a photowalk: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/148-photowalk the fly is dandy -- makes me think i'm in the fly's world (seeing the way a fly sees ...) the spider is surreal; i think a slight angle would help as the flash has made it seem very two-dimensional when it is so symmetrical -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Boston
On 2 September 2010 18:36, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I went to meeting in Boston last week. Pedaling in the fitness room after dinner and saw this view out the window. Got my E-P1 from the room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the glass. http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=bostoncity.jpg E-P1, Lumix 20 mm, f1.7, 1/40 s iso 1600 -- Steve Desjardins Hey, you could'a let us Bostonians know you were coming...especially if you were going to have such nice views :-) Nice shot of the Hancock. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron or Sigma 18-200 vs Pentax 18-250
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:46 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, just checked, I can have my 18-250 repaired for EUR 122,57 or replace it with an Tamron or Sigma 18-200 for 160 - which would you do? Also can anyone comment on IQ differences if there are any? TIA Ecke Neither the Tamron nor the Sigma 18-200's are worth bothering with. If you're going to replace the Pentax 18-250, get the Tamron 18-250, it's the same lens. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My first Red Tail Hawk
On 30 August 2010 20:55, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: My very first Red Tailed Hawk shots. They aren't the sharpest, and a little blurry, but I was working quickly to get some shots before he decided to fly off (and he flew off right after the second picture. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942134355/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942723408/ Looks fine to me, Dave! Those Boston redtails are pretty tame; I once came upon one that had landed on a traffic light and I was able to photograph it for 15 minutes, until I got bored and walked off (I was on my way to work, after all). Sadly, it was an overcast day so the photos are of a hawk looking bored on a traffic light with a white sky in the background. I would've killed for it to be on a tree! :-) I was once walking through Harvard Yard and there was a hawk on the ground in a standoff with a squirrel...and I didn't have a camera. Then there was the time a hawk had an injured squirrel at its mercy and I only had my crappy BlackBerry camera... http://enticingthelight.com/2009/06/24/bird-photography-with-a-camera-phone/ I think redtail hawks are just big photographer teasers. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: September PUG is up
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:02 -0400, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: It's here: http://pug.komkon.org/ On the 1st! (At least for some of the world.) Thanks to Rick Womer for prodding me. Without his gentle reminders I'd still be 3 months behind. The entire gallery this month is digital. No film. I think this is only the second time that has occurred. There are probably more two-wheeled contraptions in this gallery than in all the prior galleries combined. You'll see why. Pete McIntosh's is my favorite. I like Pete's too - the just slightly off centre composition works really well. Other favs: The Old Motorcycle by George K. Vlachou Gear change by Patrick Temmerman Night Truck by Rick Womer And I got a laugh out of Ann's 'Not So Busy' But, overall 'Granddaughter and grandfather' by Carl Gjersem is my pick. Wonderful composition. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spoken audio critique
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:45 -0700, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://mykriteek.com An Aussie blogger critiques a few Flickr images per day. I like this. Worth looking through the photos at least. And one of my photos is there:) Well, I found it and I totally agree with the critique. A great composition and excellent tonal quality. I'm not sure I like the audio critique concept, though. Give me the written word any day! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Chives
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:33 -0700, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was idling around in the back your in the area of my wife's West vegetable garden (yes, there is an East) when I noticed this plant. I, obviously, liked the structure of it and went for some equipment. I knew I had to isolate it from some dead ground cover and give it a background. I eliminated the dead stuff at the bottom by cropping it off in the viewfinder. Shot this a f/2.8 but still got a somewhat busy cucumber background. I blurred and darkened it, and reduced the spotty look. I asked my wife what it was and she said they're chives that should have been picked prior to reaching this stage. Light thing in the lower left corner is stepping stone paver which I left as an offset to the mums (?) on the right. Thought it about time I offered something. Jack Comments welcome, of course. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=527 Nicely composed. The 'balance' to the image is just about right. I do find the background a bit distracting - maybe a trifle more blurring? Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Lime Kiln Bay
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:43 +1000, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Following are a small set of images shot during two walks though Lime Kiln Bay reserve, the area is typical of Sydney bushlands and mangroves. All shot hand held with my now trusty back pocket resident s90, I hope you enjoy: http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/LimeKilnBay?authkey=Gv1sRgCMzpiMaWvNLX_gE# I don't think I've ever been to that part of the world - my knowledge of southern Sydney is woefully inadequate! I like the wildflower images but my favourite has to be the eucalypt bark. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:14 -0700, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately. Anyway, here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden. In case you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider. Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm A very well composed and effective image. I'm trying to imagine it without the vertical bit of foliage - on balance, I think the image would work as well. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:09 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. I like that. He might be 'mellow' but the fence makes him look dangerous. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Curveball
On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:27 -0400, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is a fine image, Frank. I like the dof, the position of the ball, the expression on the pitcher's face, and the posture of the fielder to the left of the pitcher. The fielder or runner behind the pitcher is a bit distracting, but we work in an imperfect world and must take it as it is. I think this image does a great job of portraying the scene and the action. Dan What Dan said. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:07 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good things that I'm showing it anyway. ;-) http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice). Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good long time there with a zoom getting more shots. *istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
I know your pain, bro. I hate my K10D quite a bit, but when focus is critical I hate it even more. When the day comes that I can afford to upgrade, I'm probably not going to sell my K10D. I wouldn't want to inflict its bullshit on someone else. No, I may just go Office Space on it: http://www.vimeo.com/5944863 John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: I hate my K10D's AF Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Boston
Which Hancock? I see two of them. And a Prudential. At varying times in my youth and early adulthood each of them was the tallest building in Beantown. Then again, the newer Hancock was known as the Plywood Ranch when its windows were falling out. jm -- From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso: Boston On 2 September 2010 18:36, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I went to meeting in Boston last week. Pedaling in the fitness room after dinner and saw this view out the window. Got my E-P1 from the room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the glass. http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=bostoncity.jpg E-P1, Lumix 20 mm, f1.7, 1/40 s iso 1600 -- Steve Desjardins Hey, you could'a let us Bostonians know you were coming...especially if you were going to have such nice views :-) Nice shot of the Hancock. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: My first Red Tail Hawk
I got all worked up about those damn redtails and went hunting for a decent photo of one I might have taken. Just to redeem myself and be able to sleep: http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00T/00TeSG-144095584.jpg We should meet up some day for a photowalk, Dave. When are you meeting up with that Flickr group you hang out with? Can I tag along? --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 2 September 2010 21:08, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 August 2010 20:55, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: My very first Red Tailed Hawk shots. They aren't the sharpest, and a little blurry, but I was working quickly to get some shots before he decided to fly off (and he flew off right after the second picture. http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942134355/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4942723408/ Looks fine to me, Dave! Those Boston redtails are pretty tame; I once came upon one that had landed on a traffic light and I was able to photograph it for 15 minutes, until I got bored and walked off (I was on my way to work, after all). Sadly, it was an overcast day so the photos are of a hawk looking bored on a traffic light with a white sky in the background. I would've killed for it to be on a tree! :-) I was once walking through Harvard Yard and there was a hawk on the ground in a standoff with a squirrel...and I didn't have a camera. Then there was the time a hawk had an injured squirrel at its mercy and I only had my crappy BlackBerry camera... http://enticingthelight.com/2009/06/24/bird-photography-with-a-camera-phone/ I think redtail hawks are just big photographer teasers. --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Boston
I remember the plywood. Those of us who grew up in Fall River thought it was part of the freedom trail. -Original Message- From: John Mullan k...@hotmail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:05:12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso: Boston Which Hancock? I see two of them. And a Prudential. At varying times in my youth and early adulthood each of them was the tallest building in Beantown. Then again, the newer Hancock was known as the Plywood Ranch when its windows were falling out. jm -- From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso: Boston On 2 September 2010 18:36, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I went to meeting in Boston last week. Pedaling in the fitness room after dinner and saw this view out the window. Got my E-P1 from the room, shut off the lights in the fitness room and shot through the glass. http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=viewcurrent=bostoncity.jpg E-P1, Lumix 20 mm, f1.7, 1/40 s iso 1600 -- Steve Desjardins Hey, you could'a let us Bostonians know you were coming...especially if you were going to have such nice views :-) Nice shot of the Hancock. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
Can you feel the love? It's not too bad if you have time to practice. My K10D did fine at the MC race because I has time to prefocus and work out my own timing. -Original Message- From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:00:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: I hate my K10D's AF I know your pain, bro. I hate my K10D quite a bit, but when focus is critical I hate it even more. When the day comes that I can afford to upgrade, I'm probably not going to sell my K10D. I wouldn't want to inflict its bullshit on someone else. No, I may just go Office Space on it: http://www.vimeo.com/5944863 John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: I hate my K10D's AF Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog.
Somewhere in the middle of all that junk is a treasure waiting to be had for a steal. -Original Message- From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:28:45 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Rocky; The Junkyard dog. On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I love it. I'm one of those people that has warm feelings about junkyards. Would you like to talk about that? On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't had time to read the PDML for the last few days, just note the growing backlog... (Still not as many as would have accumulated just a few years ago). However I have been able to take a few photos lately. The M 40mm f2.8 pretty much lives on the *ist-Ds lately, and it's my carry everywhere camera. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20rockythejunkyarddog.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax M 40mm f2,8 Notes: This guy is pretty mellow for a Junkyard dog. That and it was hotter than blazes the last couple of days. Converted to BW with the FOTOMATIC BW plus converter, Green filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy. -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I hate my K10D's AF
My memories of the K10D are a bit foggy. I don't remember it in detail, but apparently it was at least okay. I do recall that I found it to be an upgrade from the *istD. I do believe that I used manual focus far more often than I now do with the K7. It's all about adapting to the equipment you're using. Paul On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:11 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Can you feel the love? It's not too bad if you have time to practice. My K10D did fine at the MC race because I has time to prefocus and work out my own timing. -Original Message- From: John Celio n...@neovenator.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 19:00:55 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: I hate my K10D's AF I know your pain, bro. I hate my K10D quite a bit, but when focus is critical I hate it even more. When the day comes that I can afford to upgrade, I'm probably not going to sell my K10D. I wouldn't want to inflict its bullshit on someone else. No, I may just go Office Space on it: http://www.vimeo.com/5944863 John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: I hate my K10D's AF Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin' wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again... RGH -- Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Charlotte's Web
I would have preferred not to have that in the picture but seeing how the web was attached to it I couldn't risk any kind of removal. Such is real life...sigh. Thanks for taking a look. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:14 -0700, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: I've been very busy, not as much personal shooting lately. Anyway, here is a shot that I took this morning out in the garden. In case you didn't get it from the subject, yes it is a spider. Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Tripod mounted ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto_01044.htm A very well composed and effective image. I'm trying to imagine it without the vertical bit of foliage - on balance, I think the image would work as well. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Spoken audio critique
Thanks Brian, I found spoken critique weird at first. But now I think I like it: I skip through the items in http://mykriteek.com RSS feed and listen critique for the ones I like most. --S On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:45 -0700, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://mykriteek.com An Aussie blogger critiques a few Flickr images per day. I like this. Worth looking through the photos at least. And one of my photos is there:) Well, I found it and I totally agree with the critique. A great composition and excellent tonal quality. I'm not sure I like the audio critique concept, though. Give me the written word any day! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
