Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/2/2011 07:54, mike wilson wrote:

The astrotracer function is rather whizzy.

The O-GPS1offers the advanced PENTAX original Astrotracer function,*
which works with the PENTAX Shake Reduction (SR) system on select
cameras for tracking and photographing celestial bodies. The unit
calculates the movement of stars, planets, and other bodies using the
latitude obtained from GPS data and the camera’s alignment data
(horizontal and vertical inclinations and aspect) obtained from its
magnetic and acceleration sensors. Then, the unit shifts the camera’s
image sensor in synchronization with the movement of the object(s).** As
a result, stars and other bodies are captured as solid points rather
than blurry streaks, even during extended exposures. The unit also
simplifies astrophotography by requiring only a tripod and eliminating
the need for additional accessories such as an equatorial telescope.


Dave Savage does night Nikon photography, doesn't he? Now he may have 
yet another reason to consider going back to Pentax...


The above is humorous remark.

Boris

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Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-02 Thread mike wilson

On 02/06/2011 06:49, Boris Liberman wrote:

On 6/2/2011 02:45, Christine Aguila wrote:


- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
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Subject: RE: From Horse Guards to Helmand



From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Boris Liberman



On 5/5/2011 21:28, Bob W wrote:
 The British Library has an interesting archive of regional accents.
This is
 what Mike Wilson sounds like:
 http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/sounds/text-only/england/byker/

Thankfully neither him nor his wife sounded like this back in 2005.
Otherwise I would have been in deep deep trouble.


they must have been doing a Hyacinth Bucket for your benefit.


Mind the pedestrian.



Gives Bob and Christine the puzzledest of his puzzled looks...

Boris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKqc_BPXAsMfeature=related

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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 1, 2011, at 9:54 PM, mike wilson wrote:

 On 02/06/2011 01:59, Bruce Walker wrote:
 Well, well. They were clearly reading our little GPS thread ...
 
 Mounted on the hot shoe of select PENTAX digital SLR cameras,* the
 O-GPS1 unit records latitude, longitude, altitude, and universal time
 coordinated (UTC) of shooting locations with captured images. Image
 files with this GPS data may be used to track shooting locations and
 review location data on a personal computing device.
 
 http://goo.gl/qH4o6
 
 They must have hacked the hotshoe interface to handle serial I/O from
 the GPS. I suppose the hotshoe already talks to the flash serially, so
 they have added the GPS as a serial device distinct from a flash.
 Clever! I don't recall any of us coming up with that solution.
 
 The astrotracer function is rather whizzy.
 
 The O-GPS1offers the advanced PENTAX original Astrotracer function,* which 
 works with the PENTAX  Shake Reduction (SR) system on select cameras for 
 tracking and photographing celestial bodies. The unit calculates the movement 
 of stars, planets, and other bodies using the latitude obtained from GPS data 
 and the camera’s alignment data (horizontal and vertical inclinations and 
 aspect) obtained from its magnetic and acceleration sensors.  Then, the unit 
 shifts the camera’s image sensor in synchronization with the movement of the 
 object(s).** As a result, stars and other bodies are captured as solid points 
 rather than blurry streaks, even during extended exposures.  The unit also 
 simplifies astrophotography by requiring only a tripod and eliminating the 
 need for additional accessories such as an equatorial telescope.

That's absolutely brilliant, if it works.

 

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Re: From Horse Guards to Helmand

2011-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/2/2011 08:07, mike wilson wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKqc_BPXAsMfeature=related


It is good though I wasn't drinking any coffee or tea.

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Re: PESOs: Two Old Vets

2011-06-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 1 June 2011 19:32, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Two images from our local Memorial Day parade, take while the parade
 paused for the firing of three  rifle salutes, a prayer and taps.  One
 of these is cropped from my memorial day PESO, the other is of a
 different veteran.

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=93

 Comments are welcomed.

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Two very proud men sensitively handled.

What are taps (as in a prayer and taps)?

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RE: I despise Sigma for discrimination

2011-06-02 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steven Desjardins
 
 It's impressive, but that's like being mad at Lockheed because they
 won't sell me an F-22.
 

get in touch with these people - they'll sell fighters to anyone:
http://www.number10.gov.uk/footer/contact-us

B


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  .. against Pentax users.
 
  Even though I cannot justify paying over $4K for this lens at this
  point, I don't like the fact that that option is not even available.
 
  http://dpreview.com/news/1106/11060105sigma120-300.asp
 
  Igor
 
 
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A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Tim Bray
Check out 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html

Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines
that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as
the green brightness drops off.  They ain't there in the .dng, and
after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still
obvious.

It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in
which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using
built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview.  Obvious bars! I
put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought
.png was uncompressed!

I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
But I don't know how.

 -Tim

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Re: A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 6/2/2011 10:11, Tim Bray wrote:

I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
But I don't know how.


Tim, what happens if you save this picture as an uncompressed TIFF file? 
Methinks that if you will still get issues - the problem is not in 
compression or JPG or may be not as much in this. It may be emphasized 
by the JPG artifacts but it may be elsewhere.


Just my cents.

Boris


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Re: PESOs: Two Old Vets

2011-06-02 Thread Bulent Celasun
A very strong feeling is present in both, which nullifies nitpicks
with the compositions.

Oh, us humans!

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Re: PESO 2011 - 083 - GDG

2011-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman

On 5/31/2011 17:01, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

The images are not intended to be literal, Boris.
I also have monochrome renderings.


It also occurs to me that if I were to look at these pictures in the 
book or on the wall as a sequence/show/exhibition, my impressions would 
have been different.


It is not your fault, but this format(*) of presentation does not allow 
for emotional/mental continuity between the pictures in the series.


Boris

(*) More a schedule than format, really.

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PESO: paua slug

2011-06-02 Thread Alastair Robertson
We don't see these very often - it's called a paua slug but really
it's a snail - somehow evolution forgot to scale up the shell
appropriately!

http://flic.kr/p/9PAhd7

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Re: A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Bulent Celasun
They seem like signs of posterization to me.
Unfortunately, I do not know what can be done for your particular
image to prevent them forming.

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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread David Mann
On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 The O-GPS1offers the advanced PENTAX original Astrotracer function,* which 
 works with the PENTAX  Shake Reduction (SR) system on select cameras for 
 tracking and photographing celestial bodies. The unit calculates the 
 movement of stars, planets, and other bodies using the latitude obtained 
 from GPS data and the camera’s alignment data (horizontal and vertical 
 inclinations and aspect) obtained from its magnetic and acceleration 
 sensors.  Then, the unit shifts the camera’s image sensor in synchronization 
 with the movement of the object(s).** As a result, stars and other bodies 
 are captured as solid points rather than blurry streaks, even during 
 extended exposures.  The unit also simplifies astrophotography by requiring 
 only a tripod and eliminating the need for additional accessories such as an 
 equatorial telescope.
 
 That's absolutely brilliant, if it works.

My thoughts exactly.  What a great idea... but for a rather limited market.  
But if you can't use a flash with this thing attached, what else are you going 
to photograph at night?

Dave
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Arrived in NC

2011-06-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Got in to Durham last night after about 13 hours of driving from
Boston (a couple of construction delays but no major problems).
Getting ready to set of for the mountains in a few minutes.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

My video documentation of the trip went fairly well - learning about
the video capabilities of the K5 isn't too tough - but I won't be able
to put any on line for a while because my version of Adobe Premiere
Pro (CS4) apparently doesn't have the codec necessary for dealing with
the K5's video files. Unless I can download some kind of converter I'm
going to be stuck using my little Flip Video camcorder for the time
being.


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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Rick Womer
--- On Thu, 6/2/11, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 The astrotracer function is rather whizzy.
 
 The O-GPS1offers the advanced PENTAX original Astrotracer
 function,* which works with the PENTAX  Shake Reduction
 (SR) system on select cameras for tracking and photographing
 celestial bodies. The unit calculates the movement of stars,
 planets, and other bodies using the latitude obtained from
 GPS data and the camera’s alignment data (horizontal and
 vertical inclinations and aspect) obtained from its magnetic
 and acceleration sensors.  Then, the unit shifts the
 camera’s image sensor in synchronization with the movement
 of the object(s).** As a result, stars and other bodies are
 captured as solid points rather than blurry streaks, even
 during extended exposures.  The unit also simplifies
 astrophotography by requiring only a tripod and eliminating
 the need for additional accessories such as an equatorial
 telescope.
 

If they allow one to switch off the dark-frame subtraction for long exposures, 
it might even be practical.

Rick


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Re: I despise Sigma for discrimination

2011-06-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Chris, you beat me to it.  I have to start checking my email in the
middle of the night.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 Ote

 On 02/06/2011, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 Make sure you spring for the navigation system, though.
 That uses map display code that I wrote
 It'll look great bolted onto your K5. Much more impressive than the
 boring GPS unit Pentax have just announced...

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Re: PESO: paua slug

2011-06-02 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-06-02 4:23 AM, Alastair Robertson wrote:

We don't see these very often - it's called a paua slug but really
it's a snail - somehow evolution forgot to scale up the shell
appropriately!

http://flic.kr/p/9PAhd7

K10D, FA100/2.8, AF360FGZ  Metz mecablitz 58 AF-1 triggered
wirelessly, F22, IS0100, on a monopod

Comments welcome
Alastair


Now, *there's* something only a mother could love. Might appeal to the 
French though: it's even wearing a little beret. :-)


Nicely detailed, Alastair. Good macro.

-bmw

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Re: A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-06-02 3:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Check out 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html

Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines
that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as
the green brightness drops off.  They ain't there in the .dng, and
after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still
obvious.

It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in
which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using
built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview.  Obvious bars! I
put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought
.png was uncompressed!


PNG is not lossy like JPEG, but it is compressed. The compression is not 
as efficient as JPEG because it can't play tricks that lossy conversions 
can.




I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
But I don't know how.

  -Tim


I'm barely seeing your bars; they are not *that* obvious.

Assuming your toolchain is 100% 16-bit (or better) end-to-end, then your 
image is suffering from banding by being dithered down to 8-bits at the 
output.  JPEG is 8-bits RGB, so you are most likely introducing banding 
right there.


Also as for your PNG image, there's 16-bit PNG and 8-bit PNG, and you 
used 8-bit, which will show clear banding same as the JPEG.


  screen-grab.png: PNG image, 764 x 727, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced


Even 16-bit images can suffer from very slight banding in really gradual 
tonal transitions. The solution to that is to dither the image a bit -- 
add some intentional noise.  You could use a mask in Photoshop to 
restrict the noise addition to just the darker bokeh areas and avoid 
mucking-up the bloom.


There's a grain feature in LR (bottom of the Develop section) that you 
could play with to add some noise.



And that's a _great_ shot, btw. My only issue with it is I can't see the 
stem which makes it look a little floating in space, but I guess 
that's because of the angle of view.  You've struck an excellent balance 
with the DoF / sharp edges / bokeh.


-bmw

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Re: I despise Sigma for discrimination

2011-06-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
c
That time difference does have its uses -even if it's only that we can
get the wisecracks in quicker!

On 02/06/2011, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chris, you beat me to it.  I have to start checking my email in the
 middle of the night.

 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Chris Mitchell
 chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 Ote

 On 02/06/2011, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 Make sure you spring for the navigation system, though.
 That uses map display code that I wrote
 It'll look great bolted onto your K5. Much more impressive than the
 boring GPS unit Pentax have just announced...

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Re: PESO 2011 - 083 - GDG

2011-06-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 5/31/2011 17:01, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 The images are not intended to be literal, Boris.
 I also have monochrome renderings.

 It also occurs to me that if I were to look at these pictures in the book or
 on the wall as a sequence/show/exhibition, my impressions would have been
 different.

 It is not your fault, but this format(*) of presentation does not allow for
 emotional/mental continuity between the pictures in the series.

 Boris

 (*) More a schedule than format, really.

I can't help that. That's why I often list the set top page so you can
go to the set on flickr and view them as a series rather than
individual images.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157626653542529/

There's a slideshow button on the upper right that puts them on the
gray background and autoplays them in sequence too.
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Re: A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Thibouille
Mmm wouldn't a proper PS conversion to 8bit cure the problem and
saving later to 8bit Jpeg rather than 16bit image directly exported to
8bit Jpeg ?

2011/6/2 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:
 On 11-06-02 3:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

 Check out
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html

 Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines
 that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as
 the green brightness drops off.  They ain't there in the .dng, and
 after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still
 obvious.

 It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in
 which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using
 built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview.  Obvious bars! I
 put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought
 .png was uncompressed!

 PNG is not lossy like JPEG, but it is compressed. The compression is not as
 efficient as JPEG because it can't play tricks that lossy conversions can.


 I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
 But I don't know how.

  -Tim

 I'm barely seeing your bars; they are not *that* obvious.

 Assuming your toolchain is 100% 16-bit (or better) end-to-end, then your
 image is suffering from banding by being dithered down to 8-bits at the
 output.  JPEG is 8-bits RGB, so you are most likely introducing banding
 right there.

 Also as for your PNG image, there's 16-bit PNG and 8-bit PNG, and you used
 8-bit, which will show clear banding same as the JPEG.

  screen-grab.png: PNG image, 764 x 727, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced


 Even 16-bit images can suffer from very slight banding in really gradual
 tonal transitions. The solution to that is to dither the image a bit -- add
 some intentional noise.  You could use a mask in Photoshop to restrict the
 noise addition to just the darker bokeh areas and avoid mucking-up the
 bloom.

 There's a grain feature in LR (bottom of the Develop section) that you could
 play with to add some noise.


 And that's a _great_ shot, btw. My only issue with it is I can't see the
 stem which makes it look a little floating in space, but I guess that's
 because of the angle of view.  You've struck an excellent balance with the
 DoF / sharp edges / bokeh.

 -bmw

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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Thibouille
Yep, the K5 can be set to disable DFS.

2011/6/2 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:
 --- On Thu, 6/2/11, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 The astrotracer function is rather whizzy.

 The O-GPS1offers the advanced PENTAX original Astrotracer
 function,* which works with the PENTAX  Shake Reduction
 (SR) system on select cameras for tracking and photographing
 celestial bodies. The unit calculates the movement of stars,
 planets, and other bodies using the latitude obtained from
 GPS data and the camera’s alignment data (horizontal and
 vertical inclinations and aspect) obtained from its magnetic
 and acceleration sensors.  Then, the unit shifts the
 camera’s image sensor in synchronization with the movement
 of the object(s).** As a result, stars and other bodies are
 captured as solid points rather than blurry streaks, even
 during extended exposures.  The unit also simplifies
 astrophotography by requiring only a tripod and eliminating
 the need for additional accessories such as an equatorial
 telescope.


 If they allow one to switch off the dark-frame subtraction for long 
 exposures, it might even be practical.

 Rick


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Re: PESO: paua slug

2011-06-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is one UGLY critter!  Nice image, though.

Dan

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 We don't see these very often - it's called a paua slug but really
 it's a snail - somehow evolution forgot to scale up the shell
 appropriately!

 http://flic.kr/p/9PAhd7

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Re: PESOs: Two Old Vets

2011-06-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking and for your comments, Bulent and Chris.

Chris, taps is a tune played by military buglers in the US at the
end of the day, as the flag is lowered.  Since the Civil War, it is
also the bugle call played at military funerals and, as here, in
ceremonies honoring the dead.

Bulent, nits from photographers more skilled than I is the main
reason I post images here.  I may be old, but I still like to learn.

Dan

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
 A very strong feeling is present in both, which nullifies nitpicks
 with the compositions.

 Oh, us humans!

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RE: Dubrovnik

2011-06-02 Thread SV Hovland
Thanks.

The third image is sea water just in front of a boat. The golden color is a 
combination of sunset and the conversion to BW / sepia.

Stig Vidar Hovland

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Nice, all of them.

I like the third image as an abstract, but it also fascinates me.  Can you 
explain a bit what I amseeing there?

Dan

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:17 PM, SV Hovland pdml...@heime.org wrote:
 Here are three pictures from a trip to Cavtat and Dubrovnik.

 http://album.heime.org/album/dubrovnik/imgp0574.jpg

 http://album.heime.org/album/dubrovnik/imgp0599.jpg

 http://album.heime.org/album/dubrovnik/imgp0526.jpg


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Re: OT Hey Godfrey (and anyone else who fancies a drool)

2011-06-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've always been curious about Guzzis.  OTOH,  a stable of MC is a bit pricey.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:58 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 01/06/2011 17:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:01 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
  wrote:

 Motorcycle content

 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mcy/2413835455.html

 Now that's a lovely machine. Built on an 850T and running gear ... I
 might have known the original bike or builder once upon a time!

 Thanks for the link. :-)

 George Dockray from Vancouver, I think.  It reminded me of one of yours that
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RE: Dubrovnik

2011-06-02 Thread SV Hovland
Thanks to you and all others. I am rather pleased with the football picture 
myself. I was waiting a few minutes for the right moment and position of the 
boy.

Stig Vidar Hovland

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On 5/30/2011 20:20, DagT wrote:
 Nice, I think the football picture is brilliant but the others are good too.

 DagT
 http://www.thrane.name

I agree with Dag. The set is excellent whereas the football picture is plain 
outstanding.

Boris

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Re: A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-06-02 9:25 AM, Thibouille wrote:

Mmm wouldn't a proper PS conversion to 8bit cure the problem and
saving later to 8bit Jpeg rather than 16bit image directly exported to
8bit Jpeg ?


That might work best in this case, but it depends entirely on the 
quality of that 16-8 bit conversion. It would just have to be tried to see.


I was thinking about this during my doggy walk (she was not amused) and 
I realized that the dithering will only work well if different random 
noise is added to each of the R, G, and B channels separately. Adding 
grain in LR will *not* do that, so while it might help, the noise may 
well disrupt the image too much too. Depends on how much you like grain, 
I guess. :-)


In Photoshop at least, you can easily open the Channels panel, select 
each of the RGB channels in turn and add a small percentage of noise. 
Then you could do the JPEG conversion and see what happens.


This problem exists in the audio domain too. In poorly mastered CDs you 
can hear popcorn noise if you crank the volume during really quiet 
passages. A couple of companies have made some good coin marketing 24-16 
bit dithering devices (and plugins for digital audio workstations) that 
introduce very specific noise to eliminate the audio-level banding that 
would otherwise occur.


-bmw



2011/6/2 Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com:

On 11-06-02 3:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Check out
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html

Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines
that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as
the green brightness drops off.  They ain't there in the .dng, and
after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still
obvious.

It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in
which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using
built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview.  Obvious bars! I
put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought
.png was uncompressed!

PNG is not lossy like JPEG, but it is compressed. The compression is not as
efficient as JPEG because it can't play tricks that lossy conversions can.



I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
But I don't know how.

  -Tim

I'm barely seeing your bars; they are not *that* obvious.

Assuming your toolchain is 100% 16-bit (or better) end-to-end, then your
image is suffering from banding by being dithered down to 8-bits at the
output.  JPEG is 8-bits RGB, so you are most likely introducing banding
right there.

Also as for your PNG image, there's 16-bit PNG and 8-bit PNG, and you used
8-bit, which will show clear banding same as the JPEG.

  screen-grab.png: PNG image, 764 x 727, 8-bit/color RGB, non-interlaced


Even 16-bit images can suffer from very slight banding in really gradual
tonal transitions. The solution to that is to dither the image a bit -- add
some intentional noise.  You could use a mask in Photoshop to restrict the
noise addition to just the darker bokeh areas and avoid mucking-up the
bloom.

There's a grain feature in LR (bottom of the Develop section) that you could
play with to add some noise.


And that's a _great_ shot, btw. My only issue with it is I can't see the
stem which makes it look a little floating in space, but I guess that's
because of the angle of view.  You've struck an excellent balance with the
DoF / sharp edges / bokeh.

-bmw

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OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
that we all shoot the same places—from the same angles:

Read more: 
http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf


http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter

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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Tim Bray
The whole thing seems like it's addressing a very limited market; how
many people here at PDML have any interest in a GPS on their camera?

Also, I'd be suspicious how well it works.  Good GPS functionality on
something that's normally switched off is a hard problem.  It's a
little easier for phones because they can get an initial rough fix via
the cell network and other clues.  But zeroing in starting from zero
using only GPS signal is not, unless things have changed recently, a
particularly well-solved problem.  -Tim

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:43 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 On Jun 2, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 The O-GPS1offers the advanced PENTAX original Astrotracer function,* which 
 works with the PENTAX  Shake Reduction (SR) system on select cameras for 
 tracking and photographing celestial bodies. The unit calculates the 
 movement of stars, planets, and other bodies using the latitude obtained 
 from GPS data and the camera’s alignment data (horizontal and vertical 
 inclinations and aspect) obtained from its magnetic and acceleration 
 sensors.  Then, the unit shifts the camera’s image sensor in 
 synchronization with the movement of the object(s).** As a result, stars 
 and other bodies are captured as solid points rather than blurry streaks, 
 even during extended exposures.  The unit also simplifies astrophotography 
 by requiring only a tripod and eliminating the need for additional 
 accessories such as an equatorial telescope.

 That's absolutely brilliant, if it works.

 My thoughts exactly.  What a great idea... but for a rather limited market.  
 But if you can't use a flash with this thing attached, what else are you 
 going to photograph at night?

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Re: PESO - Dream Dance

2011-06-02 Thread Igor Roshchin

Thu Jun 2 01:28:22 EDT 2011
Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 6/1/2011 20:56, Igor Roshchin wrote:
  I might try to play a bit more with this sort of effect...
  I thought this photo is rather interesting (albeit not perfect):
  http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30886.jpg
 
 My Metz flash has a setting where it can produce a series of weak bursts 
 whereas I could set the total number of flash discharges and the 
 frequency. By matching the total time it would take with the shutter 
 speed, interesting strobo effects can be achieved.

Yep, that might be a good idea to try. Thank you, Boris!
Although, previously, I tried and never got anything interesting 
with that...  I didn't try too hard.

Wed Jun 1 15:06:05 EDT 2011
frank theriault wrote:

 Both very good shots, but I especially like the first.  The look on
 her face is very hard to read, but it's wonderful none-the-less.


Frank,
A little secret: the lady is a relatively new dancer, and she might not
be completely self-confident. So, she is very attentive to every aspect 
(channel) of the body lead of the guy. That is probably reflected
in her look.


Thank you both for your comments!
Thanks to all for looking!

Igor



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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 The whole thing seems like it's addressing a very limited market; how
 many people here at PDML have any interest in a GPS on their camera?

I do, for $50. Not $250. Given that I can buy a GPS navigation device
with maps of the entire United States, with perpetual updates, and a
touchscreen, and so forth for $100, I'm not enthusiastic about paying
the Photographic Equipment Premium for a dedicated device.

 Also, I'd be suspicious how well it works.  Good GPS functionality on
 something that's normally switched off is a hard problem.  It's a
 little easier for phones because they can get an initial rough fix via
 the cell network and other clues.  But zeroing in starting from zero
 using only GPS signal is not, unless things have changed recently, a
 particularly well-solved problem.

Things are a lot better than they used to be. The SIRF Star III chip,
which is widely used and has been out for a good while, has these
specs:

Time To First Fix
Hot start - Autonomous 1 s
Warm start - Autonomous 35 s
Cold start - Autonomous 35 s

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PESO - You and Me

2011-06-02 Thread Igor Roshchin

You and me

I still cannot decided which one of the two or whether it should be 
a diptych:
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30757.jpg
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30769.jpg

You comments, suggestions, and constructive critic are welcome!

Igor


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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's a neat toy, but I'm not interested. I have no problem figuring out where I 
am when I take a photo. And if I ever do need that information, the nav system 
on my phone can provide it.  
Paul


On Jun 2, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 
 The whole thing seems like it's addressing a very limited market; how
 many people here at PDML have any interest in a GPS on their camera?
 
 I do, for $50. Not $250. Given that I can buy a GPS navigation device
 with maps of the entire United States, with perpetual updates, and a
 touchscreen, and so forth for $100, I'm not enthusiastic about paying
 the Photographic Equipment Premium for a dedicated device.
 
 Also, I'd be suspicious how well it works.  Good GPS functionality on
 something that's normally switched off is a hard problem.  It's a
 little easier for phones because they can get an initial rough fix via
 the cell network and other clues.  But zeroing in starting from zero
 using only GPS signal is not, unless things have changed recently, a
 particularly well-solved problem.
 
 Things are a lot better than they used to be. The SIRF Star III chip,
 which is widely used and has been out for a good while, has these
 specs:
 
 Time To First Fix
Hot start - Autonomous 1 s
Warm start - Autonomous 35 s
Cold start - Autonomous 35 s
 
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Re: Arrived in NC

2011-06-02 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-06-02 6:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Got in to Durham last night after about 13 hours of driving from
Boston (a couple of construction delays but no major problems).
Getting ready to set of for the mountains in a few minutes.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

My video documentation of the trip went fairly well - learning about
the video capabilities of the K5 isn't too tough - but I won't be able
to put any on line for a while because my version of Adobe Premiere
Pro (CS4) apparently doesn't have the codec necessary for dealing with
the K5's video files. Unless I can download some kind of converter I'm
going to be stuck using my little Flip Video camcorder for the time
being.


Mark, per Cotty: try this little converter:
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html

Mac or Windows.  Simply brilliant!

-bmw

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Re: OT Hey Godfrey (and anyone else who fancies a drool)

2011-06-02 Thread mike wilson

On 02/06/2011 15:59, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I've always been curious about Guzzis.


Mark!

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Re: OT Hey Godfrey (and anyone else who fancies a drool)

2011-06-02 Thread mike wilson

On 02/06/2011 15:59, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I've always been curious about Guzzis.  OTOH,  a stable of MC is a bit pricey.



Compared to bicycles of the treader kind, maybe.


On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:58 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com  wrote:

On 01/06/2011 17:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:01 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
  wrote:


Motorcycle content

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mcy/2413835455.html


Now that's a lovely machine. Built on an 850T and running gear ... I
might have known the original bike or builder once upon a time!

Thanks for the link. :-)


George Dockray from Vancouver, I think.  It reminded me of one of yours that
you posted some time ago.

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Re: PESOs: Two Old Vets

2011-06-02 Thread mike wilson

On 02/06/2011 08:58, Chris Mitchell wrote:

On 1 June 2011 19:32, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com  wrote:

Two images from our local Memorial Day parade, take while the parade
paused for the firing of three  rifle salutes, a prayer and taps.  One
of these is cropped from my memorial day PESO, the other is of a
different veteran.

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=93

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Two very proud men sensitively handled.

What are taps (as in a prayer and taps)?


More information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps

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Re: PESO - Dream Dance

2011-06-02 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Igor:  After reading your email here, I thought of the National 
Geographic photographer William Albert Allard.  I learned about him from the 
NatGeo video entitled The Photographers. Maybe these shots might spark some 
ideas. Just a thought.  Ignore if not helpful.  I think if I was going to 
shoot dance, which I've never done, I'd want a bit of blur, and I'd want as 
much ambient light as possible.  I'd probably try some 1/20, 1/30, 1/40, 
1/50, 1/60 shutter speeds to see what I could get--especially with the good 
high iso quality of the K-5.  Just another thought.  Ignore if not helpful. 
Cheers, Christine



From his blues collection on his web site:

http://www.williamalbertallard.com/collections.php?view=28
http://www.williamalbertallard.com/collections.php?view=28


From his Italy collection on his web site:

http://www.williamalbertallard.com/collections.php?view=26

His web site:
http://www.williamalbertallard.com



- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org

To: PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:56 PM
Subject: PESO - Dream Dance





I just came back from the Memorial Day Tango Festival in Denver, Colorado.
So far, I only had time to transfer the photos from the cards to the
desktop computer, and import them into LR.
And it'll take me some time to sort them out.
But I quickly took a brief a look at some experimental shots...


I might try to play a bit more with this sort of effect...
I thought this photo is rather interesting (albeit not perfect):
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30886.jpg

I used 0.5 s exposure time (ISO-400) and the Metz flash on A setting.
I tried the same sort of effect previously, but with less success...
It seems to me that A setting of the flash (as opposed to P-TTL)
might work better for this effect, but I don't have a good logical
explanation why.

I'd like to play with shorter exposure times (compensated by higher ISO),
so that the ambient light would still be sufficient, while somewhat
reducing the motion (and *shake*) blur.

Any suggestions and ideas are welcome.


And here is one more funny shot:
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30827.jpg


Igor



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Re: Photo book from Boris

2011-06-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
That's a shame. I had a very good experience with their books at
Christmas - excellent quality and service. It has to work for them as
well though.

Chris

On 02/06/2011, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Stan,

 I cannot find any present account of the book-publishing with JAlbum,
 but when it started, it was using Blurb for producing the books.
 See e.g.:
 http://mashable.com/2007/11/07/jalbum-blurb/


 Aha... I think this gives the answer:
 http://jalbum.net/en/book

 Boris managed to print the book in the period when JAlbum had its own
 Breezebook printing service.


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 Wed Jun 1 23:05:09 EDT 2011
 Stan Halpin wrote:

 [...]

 Second, with respect to the quality of the book, again it is all good.
 He used JAlbum rather than blurb. Compared to the10 blurb books I have
 seen, JAlbum is at least as good, and probably has an edge on blurb
 both on the quality of the image reproduction and the quality of the
 construction/binding.

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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 07:56:21AM -0700, Tim Bray wrote:
 The whole thing seems like it's addressing a very limited market; how
 many people here at PDML have any interest in a GPS on their camera?

I'm mildly interested, but probably not $250 interested at present.
I'm more interested in it as an accurate time-stamp, actually. But
that only works if you've got one on each camera body, which means
I'd need to be $500 intersted (plus buying two compatible bodies).

 Also, I'd be suspicious how well it works.  Good GPS functionality on
 something that's normally switched off is a hard problem.  It's a
 little easier for phones because they can get an initial rough fix via
 the cell network and other clues.  But zeroing in starting from zero
 using only GPS signal is not, unless things have changed recently, a
 particularly well-solved problem.  -Tim

Isn't that what hiker's GPS units do?  Or at least the early Garmin 
(and other manufacturers) in-car systems?


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Re: Proposed collaborative project on Old Stuff

2011-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
I've got a couple of ideas of things I've been meaning to photograph 
that might fit.


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Re: OT Spredsheets

2011-06-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: David J Brooks


The paste special worked in MS excel, but not in numbers.


Deuteronomy?

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RE: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread SV Hovland
It's not about finding out where you are. It's about marking pictures in a way 
that's make them easy to find in the future. With programs like geosetter, you 
can mark each picture with country, city, location and sublocation. This 
information is searchable in Lightroom and makes it easy to find the picture 
you are looking for.

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It's a neat toy, but I'm not interested. I have no problem figuring out where I 
am when I take a photo. And if I ever do need that information, the nav system 
on my phone can provide it.  
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RE: I despise Sigma for discrimination

2011-06-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Igor Roshchin


.. against Pentax users.

Even though I cannot justify paying over $4K for this lens at this
point, I don't like the fact that that option is not even available.

http://dpreview.com/news/1106/11060105sigma120-300.asp

Igor


It makes sense not to offer an OS lens in the mount for camera brands 
that have stabilization built into the camera body.


Sigma still offers many of their lenses in Pentax mount. If memory 
serves, they offered the non-stabilized version of this lens in Pentax 
mount.



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Re: A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

 Check out 
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html
 
 Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines
 that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as
 the green brightness drops off.  They ain't there in the .dng, and
 after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still
 obvious.
 
 It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in
 which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using
 built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview.  Obvious bars! I
 put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought
 .png was uncompressed!
 
 I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
 But I don't know how.

It's not too bad here.  I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have something 
set to too few bits.


 
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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
Places I've lived in my lifetime:

1- New York 
3- San Francisco
6- Chicago  
7- Washington D.C.
8- Seattle 
11- Boston
13- San Diego

Makes me just a common photo whore…:-(


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

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On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places—from the same angles:
 
 Read more: 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
 
 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter
 
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Re: Sold a pic to a theologian

2011-06-02 Thread Darren Addy
Congratulations!
Cathedral interiors are one subject that really benefits from a well
done (photo-realistic) HDR treatment. Large dynamic range.

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A Hard, Merciless Light

2011-06-02 Thread Bob W
An interesting article here for those comrades who are interested in the
history of social documentary and reportage photography:
http://www.foto8.com/new/online/blog/1424-worker-photography-movement

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FS: LowePro Orion

2011-06-02 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
#1 I think it's the orion model
It's a waist/hip pack that will hold your SLR and a number of lenses.
About 6.5 inches tall and 14 inches wide.
Blue in color.  Very good condition.
$25 shipped in US.

#2 Lee gel filter holder
A little over 4 inches square, iwht orange filter included.
$10 shipped in US.

PayPal accepted.

Sincerely, 

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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread John Sessoms

From: Paul Stenquist


It's a neat toy, but I'm not interested. I have no problem figuring
out where I am when I take a photo. And if I ever do need that
information, the nav system on my phone can provide it.
Paul


It's not the problem with figuring out where I am when I'm taking 
photographs today; it's going back to them several years later and 
trying to reconstruct where I was when I took the photograph then.


Longitude and latitude in the EXIF would help.

But since it's not backward compatible with the cameras I currently own 
and will continue to use for the foreseeable future ...


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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:52, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places—from the same angles:
 
 Read more: 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
 

Interesting!

I found that I have one image which is almost identical to what they show 
online.  

Trafalgar Square (their example):

http://bt-prod-image-server.s3.amazonaws.com/030325wikihorizjpg-522011_horiz-large.jpeg

Trafalgar Square (my shot):

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/1983/april_black_and_white/content/bin/images/large/Scan_090328_0041.jpg

Still kind of a dull shot, but at least it's slightly different than what most 
of the tourists shoot.

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Re: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 07:08:02PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
  Daniel J. Matyola
 
  Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
  that we all shoot the same places?from the same angles:
  
  Read more: http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-
  places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
  
  
  http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-
  earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter
 
 that's very interesting. I was expecting Paris to be the most photographed 
 city, and I was expecting Big Ben to be the most photographed thing in London.
 

I suspect there's more than a little sampling bias, not least due to 
restricting the sample to people who post their travel shots on flickr.

I mean, Portland, Oregon as the 25th most photographed city?  Really?

 What I try to do when faced with one of the standard postcardy places is to 
 treat it as just something in the background and try to get people doing 
 something interesting as the main point of interest. 
 
 The classic example of this, which I try to emulate, is this shot of the Taj 
 Mahal by Steve McCurry:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/tankmahal
 http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/212/cache/taj-mahal-river-reflection_21246_600x450.jpg

I agree - that's a great shot.

While it exemplifies the primary advice of the article - find a
different viewpoint - I find many of the examples they supply to
be no significant improvement on the cliche postcard shot.
It's hard (in some cases impossible) to see the iconic landmark.
If I go to an exotic locale I want to come back with a photograph
that could only have been taken there, not one that could just as
well been taken within a few miles (or even a few hundred yards)
of my front door.

The most obvious thing I deduce from most of the photographs is that
an in-camera perspective correction filter might be a good idea.


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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Igor Roshchin

I am proud to have a non-stereotipical view onto #4:

http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/100_0101.html
http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/Eiffel_100_0125.html

(I believe I've showed them here before)

Igor


On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places.from the same angles:
 
 Read more:
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
 
 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter


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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Jos from Holland
At the moment I take a photo, I know where I am, but later I donot 
remember the name of the street or the temple or what ever.

So I write down some info, sometimes.
But I would be s happy if I could switch on the mike on my K7 and 
add some remarks.

Why not a few kb of audio added to all the Mb of picture?
I'm sure that will come, but why not Pentax being  the first?
Greetz, Jos

On 2-6-2011 20:15, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Paul Stenquist


It's a neat toy, but I'm not interested. I have no problem figuring
out where I am when I take a photo. And if I ever do need that
information, the nav system on my phone can provide it.
Paul


It's not the problem with figuring out where I am when I'm taking 
photographs today; it's going back to them several years later and 
trying to reconstruct where I was when I took the photograph then.


Longitude and latitude in the EXIF would help.

But since it's not backward compatible with the cameras I currently 
own and will continue to use for the foreseeable future ...




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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 2, 2011, at 14:01, Jos from Holland wrote:

 At the moment I take a photo, I know where I am, but later I donot remember 
 the name of the street or the temple or what ever.
 So I write down some info, sometimes.
 But I would be s happy if I could switch on the mike on my K7 and add 
 some remarks.
 Why not a few kb of audio added to all the Mb of picture?
 I'm sure that will come, but why not Pentax being  the first?

Yes, my little pocket Fuji F30 does this. I love it.  If the photo is 
DSCF0104.JPG the audio file created on the card is DSCF0104.WAV - wonderful 
way to keep track if you have no notepaper with you.

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Re: A really tough jpeg conversion

2011-06-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:47, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Jun 2, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
 
 Check out 
 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/01/-big/RUNE0790.jpg.html
 
 Look at the green bokeh-fied background and observe the obvious lines
 that look like elevation lines on a map, let's call them bars, as
 the green brightness drops off.  They ain't there in the .dng, and
 after the first cut, I specified 100% JPG quality and they're still
 obvious.
 
 It gets weird... I took a screen grab of the Lightroom window, in
 which none of those bars are visible, and saved to a .png file, using
 built-in OS X facilities, the PNG created by Preview.  Obvious bars! I
 put it online at http://www.tbray.org/tmp/screen-grab.png - I thought
 .png was uncompressed!
 
 I'm sure that a silky-smooth jpg of this picture could be created.
 But I don't know how.
 
 It's not too bad here.  I wonder if you're pulling an Ann and have something 
 set to too few bits.
 

I'm having the same issue - I cannot see the isobars/lines/whatever at all.  
Silky-smooth on my screen (Chrome browser on a Macbook)

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PESO: Sutter Gate

2011-06-02 Thread Jack Davis
What do you suppose...?


http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=606

Jack

K5, DA* 50~135. Came to a complete stop in the middle of the road.

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Re: Arrived in NC

2011-06-02 Thread Mark Roberts
[Default] On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 11:57:01 -0400, Bruce Walker
bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

Mark, per Cotty: try this little converter:
http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html

Thanks Bruce. I'll give it a try tomorrow. (I have a suspicion that
the Adobe Media Converter app that came with Premiere Pro might also
do the job but I don't have time to test it right now.)

 For now, I've done a clip taken whith my liffle standard def Flip
Video camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gecVBPXegM8


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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Stan Halpin
My non-iconic view of St Marks in Venice:

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e1a7133c2

stan

On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 I am proud to have a non-stereotipical view onto #4:
 
 http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/100_0101.html
 http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/Eiffel_100_0125.html
 
 (I believe I've showed them here before)
 
 Igor
 
 
 On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places.from the same angles:
 
 Read more:
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
 
 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter


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Re: Pentax announces GPS for K-5, K-r 645D

2011-06-02 Thread Jos from Holland
Waw, why not Pentax? This kind of features cost nothing, just a bit of 
software!

Jos

On 2-6-2011 21:19, Charles Robinson wrote:


Yes, my little pocket Fuji F30 does this. I love it.  If the photo is DSCF0104.JPG the 
audio file created on the card is DSCF0104.WAV - wonderful way to keep track if you 
have no notepaper with you.

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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Stan Halpin
And here is my Eiffel shot (but I prefer yours Igor)
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e2af5f5eb

and my Coliseum shot
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e2db935be

These two and my Venice shot, BTW, were all (obviously) at night, and all with 
the 21mm lens.

stan

On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 
 I am proud to have a non-stereotipical view onto #4:
 
 http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/100_0101.html
 http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/Eiffel_100_0125.html
 
 (I believe I've showed them here before)
 
 Igor
 
 
 On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places.from the same angles:
 
 Read more:
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
 
 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter
 
 
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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Clearly, this list is mostly your fault.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Places I've lived in my lifetime:

 1- New York
 3- San Francisco
 6- Chicago
 7- Washington D.C.
 8- Seattle
 11- Boston
 13- San Diego

 Makes me just a common photo whore…    :-(


 Joseph McAllister
 Lots of gear, not much time

 http://gallery.me.com/jomac

 On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places—from the same angles:

 Read more: 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf


 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter

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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
Tokyo?  Really?

I attribute some of this to density of cameras.  I'll bet Europe and
the North America have the most cameras.  Americans visit American
cities but don't travel as much as Europeans (that vacation thing
again).  Europeans tale pictures of there own cities and NA cities.
Slight bias toward NA cities.

So, what the hell do the Japanese do with all those cameras?

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 And here is my Eiffel shot (but I prefer yours Igor)
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e2af5f5eb

 and my Coliseum shot
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e2db935be

 These two and my Venice shot, BTW, were all (obviously) at night, and all 
 with the 21mm lens.

 stan

 On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:57 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


 I am proud to have a non-stereotipical view onto #4:

 http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/100_0101.html
 http://42graphy.org/galleries/1-Selected-2002-2009/Eiffel_100_0125.html

 (I believe I've showed them here before)

 Igor


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 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places.from the same angles:

 Read more:
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf


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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Charles Robinson
 On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places.from the same angles:
 
 Read more:
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
 
 
 http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter
 

My non-stereotypical view of the spire in Dublin is, unfortunately, the 
non-stereotypical view that the article suggests!

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP7430.jpg

How disappointing!

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Re: A Hard, Merciless Light

2011-06-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
How about those who are not comrades?

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 An interesting article here for those comrades who are interested in the
 history of social documentary and reportage photography:
 http://www.foto8.com/new/online/blog/1424-worker-photography-movement

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RE: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread Bob W
   Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and
 discovered
   that we all shoot the same places?from the same angles:
  
   Read more: http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-
 photographed-
   places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf
  
 
 I suspect there's more than a little sampling bias, not least due to
 restricting the sample to people who post their travel shots on flickr.
 

Sure, yes, but still: 35 million photos. That's probably fairly
representative of the general population.

 I mean, Portland, Oregon as the 25th most photographed city?  Really?
 

Why not? Somewhere has to be and it's bound to seem a little unlikely
wherever it is. It's not just tourists who take photos of cities - residents
do too.


 While it exemplifies the primary advice of the article - find a
 different viewpoint - I find many of the examples they supply to
 be no significant improvement on the cliche postcard shot.

I agree.

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RE: A Hard, Merciless Light

2011-06-02 Thread Bob W
We are all comrades now, tovarischch!

B
 
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PESO: Traffic Jam

2011-06-02 Thread Charles Robinson
Looking for my shot of the spire in Dublin (which is no great shot), I came 
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whole week:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP8384.jpg

I still have a recording of what this sounded like as they all went past my 
car.  Took about 5 minutes!

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Re: A Hard, Merciless Light

2011-06-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Не я !

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 We are all comrades now, tovarischch!

 B

 How about those who are not comrades?

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Re: PESO: Traffic Jam

2011-06-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a funny scene, well rendered.

Dan

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 Looking for my shot of the spire in Dublin (which is no great shot), I came 
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 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP8384.jpg

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Re: Arrived in NC

2011-06-02 Thread David J Brooks
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  For now, I've done a clip taken whith my liffle standard def Flip
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gecVBPXegM8

Great use of windshield glare Mark.

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Re: PESO: Traffic Jam

2011-06-02 Thread David J Brooks
I think i see Waldo.

Dave

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 Looking for my shot of the spire in Dublin (which is no great shot), I came 
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 whole week:

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP8384.jpg

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Re: PESO: Sutter Gate

2011-06-02 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a nice broken gate.

Dave

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 What do you suppose...?


 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=606

 Jack

 K5, DA* 50~135. Came to a complete stop in the middle of the road.

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Re: I despise Sigma for discrimination

2011-06-02 Thread David J Brooks
SDML, the non stabilized version of the PDML.

Dave

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 1:47 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Igor Roshchin

 .. against Pentax users.

 Even though I cannot justify paying over $4K for this lens at this
 point, I don't like the fact that that option is not even available.

 http://dpreview.com/news/1106/11060105sigma120-300.asp

 Igor

 It makes sense not to offer an OS lens in the mount for camera brands that
 have stabilization built into the camera body.

 Sigma still offers many of their lenses in Pentax mount. If memory serves,
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Re: PESO - You and Me

2011-06-02 Thread David J Brooks
Thinking #1 for me.

Dave

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 You and me

 I still cannot decided which one of the two or whether it should be
 a diptych:
 http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30757.jpg
 http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30769.jpg

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Re: PESO: Traffic Jam

2011-06-02 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-06-02 4:55 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

Looking for my shot of the spire in Dublin (which is no great shot), I came 
across this image from my trip in 2005.  One of my favorite moments of the 
whole week:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP8384.jpg

I still have a recording of what this sounded like as they all went past my 
car.  Took about 5 minutes!

(*ist-DS, 18-55 kit lens, shot in JPEG mode)

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Re: PESO: Traffic Jam

2011-06-02 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 2, 2011, at 16:43, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On 11-06-02 4:55 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
 Looking for my shot of the spire in Dublin (which is no great shot), I came 
 across this image from my trip in 2005.  One of my favorite moments of the 
 whole week:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP8384.jpg
 
 I still have a recording of what this sounded like as they all went past my 
 car.  Took about 5 minutes!
 
 (*ist-DS, 18-55 kit lens, shot in JPEG mode)
 
 I'm impressed by the sheared number of them.
 

I'll bet ewe are!

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Re: A Hard, Merciless Light

2011-06-02 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jun 2, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Bob W wrote:

 An interesting article here for those comrades who are interested in the
 history of social documentary and reportage photography:
 http://www.foto8.com/new/online/blog/1424-worker-photography-movement
 
 B
 

It does seem interesting but I stopped at his third or fourth use of the term 
hegemony. Since he seems to revel in the use of outré vocabulary, the least 
he could do is to bring in some synonyms occasionally. Example:

 I have nothing against the Griersonian documentary paradigm, but I think its 
 hegemony has had the effect of hiding that there was also - probably 
 originally - a revolutionary claim in the birth of the 1930s documentary 
 culture, and that the liberal-reformist version was most likely a response 
 to revolutionary documentary. 

I may tackle it again later after a few glasses of wine.

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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
I wasn't much impressed with the list since it didn't include the Grand 
Canyon.


From: Joseph McAllister

Places I've lived in my lifetime:

1- New York
3- San Francisco
6- Chicago
7- Washington D.C.
8- Seattle
11- Boston
13- San Diego

Makes me just a common photo whore?:-(


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

http://gallery.me.com/jomac

On Jun 2, 2011, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


 Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
 that we all shoot the same places?from the same angles:

 Read more: 
http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf


 
http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter




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Re: PESO: Traffic Jam

2011-06-02 Thread Jack Davis
Can imagine the unforgettable sounds. Really nicely composed, Charles!

Jack

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 Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 1:55 PM
 Looking for my shot of the spire in
 Dublin (which is no great shot), I came across this image
 from my trip in 2005.  One of my favorite moments of
 the whole week:
 
 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP8384.jpg
 
 I still have a recording of what this sounded like as they
 all went past my car.  Took about 5 minutes!
 
 (*ist-DS, 18-55 kit lens, shot in JPEG mode)
 
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Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread David J Brooks
I have a few old pieces of wood up against some fences trying to keep
the wild life out and the cats in.

I think they have been there longer than i thought

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13299712

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RE: Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread Bob W
 I have a few old pieces of wood up against some fences trying to keep
 the wild life out and the cats in.
 
 I think they have been there longer than i thought
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13299712
 
 Dave

I'm sure they're very nice, but once again photo.net is shoving adverts
right in my face, showing some twat from Microsoft, so fuck photo.net - I'm
not going there.

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Re: Arrived in NC

2011-06-02 Thread John Sessoms

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
  ?For now, I've done a clip taken whith my liffle standard def Flip
  Video camera.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gecVBPXegM8

Technically, the flat boring part of North Carolina is the Coastal 
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Re: Arrived in NC

2011-06-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/6/11, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:


 For now, I've done a clip taken whith my liffle standard def Flip
Video camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gecVBPXegM8


BRILLIANT!!!

Mark for God sake take the camera out of the car and film as you greet
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Re: I despise Sigma for discrimination

2011-06-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/6/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sigma? Who cares?

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Re: Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/6/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm sure they're very nice, but once again photo.net is shoving adverts
right in my face, showing some twat from Microsoft, so fuck photo.net - I'm
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Re: Peso Fly by

2011-06-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/6/11, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

No, only 12 so far.

Keep em coming mate - love em ;)

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Re: Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I'm sure they're very nice, but once again photo.net is shoving adverts
 right in my face, showing some twat from Microsoft, so fuck photo.net - I'm
 not going there.

Hm, I don't see any ads.

Oh, right, that's because I run Adblock Plus, which I find to be far
more effective than throwing a wining fit at the Internet.

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Re: Arrived in NC

2011-06-02 Thread Ken Waller

A stunning image Mark !

Keep em coming.

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- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com

Subject: Arrived in NC



Got in to Durham last night after about 13 hours of driving from
Boston (a couple of construction delays but no major problems).
Getting ready to set of for the mountains in a few minutes.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/

My video documentation of the trip went fairly well - learning about
the video capabilities of the K5 isn't too tough - but I won't be able
to put any on line for a while because my version of Adobe Premiere
Pro (CS4) apparently doesn't have the codec necessary for dealing with
the K5's video files. Unless I can download some kind of converter I'm
going to be stuck using my little Flip Video camcorder for the time
being.



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RE: Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread Bob W
  I'm sure they're very nice, but once again photo.net is shoving
 adverts
  right in my face, showing some twat from Microsoft, so fuck photo.net
 - I'm
  not going there.
 
 Hm, I don't see any ads.
 
 Oh, right, that's because I run Adblock Plus, which I find to be far
 more effective than throwing a wining fit at the Internet.

more effective, yes, but not as much fun.

B


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Re: OT: The Most Photographed Places on Earth

2011-06-02 Thread mike wilson

On 02/06/2011 16:52, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Cornell researchers analyzed 35 million Flickr photos and discovered
that we all shoot the same places—from the same angles:

Read more: 
http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter#ixzz1O89YAKwf


http://www.budgettravel.com/feature/25-most-photographed-places-on-earth,7308/?wpisrc=newsletter

All that shows is how boring Flickrs are.  Very western hemisphere 
orientated, too - I suspect the title is quite inaccurate.


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Re: Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread mike wilson

On 03/06/2011 00:56, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com  wrote:


I'm sure they're very nice, but once again photo.net is shoving adverts
right in my face, showing some twat from Microsoft, so fuck photo.net - I'm
not going there.


Hm, I don't see any ads.

Oh, right, that's because I run Adblock Plus, which I find to be far
more effective than throwing a wining fit at the Internet.


I find Bob to be more beericose than winy.

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Re: PESO - You and Me

2011-06-02 Thread Ken Waller

I still cannot decided which one of the two or whether it should be
a diptych:


No help here, neither can I.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org

Subject: PESO - You and Me




You and me

I still cannot decided which one of the two or whether it should be
a diptych:
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30757.jpg
http://komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2011/_IR30769.jpg

You comments, suggestions, and constructive critic are welcome!

Igor


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Re: Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:18 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Oh, right, that's because I run Adblock Plus, which I find to be far
 more effective than throwing a wining fit at the Internet.

 I find Bob to be more beericose than winy.

Rye do you say that?

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RE: Peso Back yard 'shroom

2011-06-02 Thread Bob W
 
 On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 ===


at 6:18 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
 wrote:
 
  Oh, right, that's because I run Adblock Plus, which I find to be far
  more effective than throwing a wining fit at the Internet.
 
  I find Bob to be more beericose than winy.
 
 Rye do you say that?

http://www.fullers.co.uk/rte.asp?id=57

B


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Re: PESO: Traffic Jam

2011-06-02 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO: Traffic Jam



On 11-06-02 4:55 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
Looking for my shot of the spire in Dublin (which is no great shot), I 
came across this image from my trip in 2005.  One of my favorite moments 
of the whole week:


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP8384.jpg

I still have a recording of what this sounded like as they all went past 
my car.  Took about 5 minutes!


(*ist-DS, 18-55 kit lens, shot in JPEG mode)

  -Charles

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I'm impressed by the sheared number of them.


Ewe would be. 



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FS Friday Gitzo Mountaineer Reporter G 1258 6x Series 2

2011-06-02 Thread Ecke PDML
Hi gang
Selling a Gitzo Mountaineer Reporter G 1258 6x Series 2, traces of use
only on feet.
Original owner bought it new for 584 €, needs to go, 300 € plus shipping OBO
Cheers
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Re: Workflow Quandary

2011-06-02 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all.

Thanks to all who commented and for the very detailed summaries of your
workflows.  I've read them all and archived them for future reference.

I suppose the thing I failed to appreciate was that with something like
Lightroom you are effectively batch processing on import but not
actually producing extra files (tiff or jpg) except for those images
that you want to work on later in other software.  If I've understood
correctly, the image adjustments are stored in the DNGs or in sidecar
files with PEFs  - at least that's my interpretation, summed up in
Charles' comment below.

I'd like to use Lightroom but I've now invested a lot of time into
Studioline.  The problem with moving to Lightroom now is that I'd lose
the custom metadata fields that I've added to each image and which are
stored in the Studioline database.  It's not impossible to get those
custom fields into standard IPTC fields and then import all of my past
image files into Lightroom, but it wouldn't be trivial.

Studioline can process RAW images (using camera-specific parameters
derived from DCRaw) and you can apply a wide range of image adjustments
to those images which are then stored within the database.  I'm just not
sure how practical my current workflow would be for processing a large
number of RAW files.  That's something I have to think about further.



Cheers

Brian

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On Tue, 31 May 2011 09:52 -0500, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com
wrote:
 On May 30, 2011, at 17:51, Brian Walters wrote:
  
  In summary - if you shoot RAW exclusively (or mainly), how do you manage
  the workflow and still have a life??
  
 
 If you use something like Adobe's Lightroom, the only things that remind
 you that you're using RAW files is that your harddrive and memory cards
 fill up faster, and you have a hell of a lot more latitude for playing
 with exposures and white balance after the fact.  The whole concept of
 batch processing or converting doesn't even exist - you just import
 your files, edit them, and send your edited output to web or disk. 
 Easy-peasy.
 
  -Charles
 
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Semi OT: remember film?

2011-06-02 Thread Stan Halpin
I occasionally order things from Porter's Digital Cameras and Imaging in Iowa. 
Today received their Film and Darkroom Specialty Catalog. You need an enlarger? 
Darkroom timer? Film? Paper? Chemicals? They have it. And I have found them to 
be a good reliable source. www.porters.com

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