PESO: Happiness is a Warm Kea

[David Mann]

My partner Janet took me to Willowbank Wildlife Reserve yesterday as an early 
birthday present.  It's a small zoo just out of town which is very popular with 
kids both big and small.

In one section they have a large aviary where you can walk in and roam free 
with several kea, the world's only alpine parrot, which is endemic to NZ.  
They're a very curious bird that adapts readily to human activity... and they 
also have a real knack for pulling things apart so you have to keep a very good 
eye on them.

http://www.multi.net.nz/kea/

Apologies to Frank for the subject line but his recent kitten photo inspired me 
to post this :)

I didn't take the K10D so I took it using Janet's little Panasonic compact and 
gave it a highlights & shadows tweak in Photoshop.

Cheers,
Dave
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Re: PESOs: Moves

[Joseph McAllister]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 17:41 , Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I don't know where she gets it. Definitely not from me:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14274513
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14274512

It's known as "The fearlessness of youth" which if PDMLrs would dig deep into 
their minds they would remember the wonderful things they could do, as long as 
they didn't think too much about it.

Skateboards and snowboards come to mind as things I would not dare to try, even 
20 years ago. Something would break rather quickly.

Great captures of the indomitable natural grace of Grace.


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“ Nature is considerably more creative and inventive than humankind. Without 
Nature there isn't any humankind. Without humankind, Nature is fine.”


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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Larry.  Long live the K-5!!!  Cheers, Christine


On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> A couple of things:
>> 
>> 1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few years is 
>> just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office 
>> space.  My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being 
>> used.  
>> 
>> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, 
>> to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure 
>> up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some 
>> punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera 
>> with some punch in Lightroom 3.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
>> 
>> Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine
> 
> Nice shots.  I'd say that the exposure, and the dynamic range, were both 
> nailed.
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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, B.W.  Cheers, Christine


On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Bob W wrote:

> nice job they made of the building, and a nice job you made of the shots.
> 
> B
> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> facilities are being used.
>> 
>> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first
>> shot, to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop
>> the exposure up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--
>> well, I gave it some punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd
>> shot is straight off camera with some punch in Lightroom 3.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
>> 
>> Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine
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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Godfrey!  the K-5 makes it easy.  Great camera.  Cheers, Christine


On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Nicely done, Christine! You've captured the interior very well.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Christine Aguila  
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>> used.
>> 
>> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, 
>> to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure 
>> up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some 
>> punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera 
>> with some punch in Lightroom 3.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
>> 
>> Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine
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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Paul!  Agreed.  The K-5 is fantastic.  Cheers, Christine


On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> Nice additions, nice photos.  The more I use my K-5, the more I like it
> 
> -p
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> On 9/24/2011 3:03 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> A couple of things:
>> 
>> 1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few years is 
>> just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office 
>> space.  My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being 
>> used.
>> 
>> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, 
>> to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure 
>> up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some 
>> punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera 
>> with some punch in Lightroom 3.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
>> 
>> Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Jack.  My office is in another building, one that's in desperate need 
of a face lift, which it will get, but how big depends on budget--and who's got 
money these days!  Cheers, Christine


On Sep 24, 2011, at 5:35 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> I suppose that second shot is your private office? Send along another when 
> your office furnishings are in place.(I removed a smiley face from here)
> Seriously clean well exposed/edited images.
> 
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> just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office space. 
>  My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being used.  
> 
> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, 
> to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure 
> up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some 
> punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera 
> with some punch in Lightroom 3.
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> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
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Re: PESOs: Moves

[Larry Colen]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

> Golly, that first one is just superb on multiple levels.

I agree.  She seems to live up to her name without a trace of irony.


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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Darren Addy]

That is a **definite**  PDML Book image, if not the cover shot (that
I've seen so far for this year).

Darren Addy
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Re: OT But is it art?

[Darren Addy]

Interestingly, Google has decided to bracket this thread  (in my Gmail
account) with "Buy Banksy Prints" ads from www.veramararts.com.

Reminding me to tell you that if you have not yet seen the Banksy
produced movie "Exit Through the Gift Shop" then you really owe it to
yourself to see it.

Darren Addy
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Re: PESOs: Moves

[Darren Addy]

Golly, that first one is just superb on multiple levels.

Darren Addy
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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, your answer explained it well enough. I'd not heard of such as the fire 
flinging steel wool thing.

Jack

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On 25 September 2011 05:41, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> Exceptional, Peter. While it may be clear to everyone else, pls tell me how 
>> you created that effect.
>
> Which effect?  The burning bits flying off the end?  Back in high school we'd 
> tie steel wool to a string, light it on fire and spin it around to get that 
> sort of effect.
>

What Larry said.  No special effects on my part. I couldn't see what
was used, but I suspect it was steel wool.

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

[John Francis]

Not if you're left-handed ...

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
> Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job better than 
> anything else.
> 
> Rick
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Re: OT But is it art?

[Paul Stenquist]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 10:08 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> The reason Adams' work seems kitsch is that he defined the genera, and any 
> critic who thinks that social relevance defines "Art" should be taken out and 
> shot immediately.

Well said, Peter.

Paul


> 
> On 9/19/2011 8:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Talk about Ansel Adams (see "A door to nowhere" thread) had me searching for 
>> something about a repeated criticism of Ansel Adams that I've run across: 
>> that he's the Normal Rockwell of photogs; that his output is kitsch rather 
>> than art; that his belief in beauty above all rather then social relevance, 
>> left him on the bottom rung of fine arts.
>> 
>> So I located this excellent essay:
>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/ansel-adams-but-is-it-art-749574.html
>>  
>> 
>> Criticism of AA seems to boil down to a fashion thing. It seems to be safe 
>> to like Adams again. :)
>> 
>> -bmw
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Re: OT But is it art?

[P. J. Alling]

The reason Adams' work seems kitsch is that he defined the genera, and 
any critic who thinks that social relevance defines "Art" should be 
taken out and shot immediately.


On 9/19/2011 8:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Talk about Ansel Adams (see "A door to nowhere" thread) had me 
searching for something about a repeated criticism of Ansel Adams that 
I've run across: that he's the Normal Rockwell of photogs; that his 
output is kitsch rather than art; that his belief in beauty above all 
rather then social relevance, left him on the bottom rung of fine arts.


So I located this excellent essay:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/ansel-adams-but-is-it-art-749574.html 



Criticism of AA seems to boil down to a fashion thing. It seems to be 
safe to like Adams again. :)


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Re: PESO -- Waterfire; Providence Lights

[Steven Desjardins]

Providence, RI, right?  Nice shot.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:35 PM, P. J. Alling
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> A little bit of impressionism
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

[Rick Womer]

Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job better than 
anything else.

Rick

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Re: PESOs: Moves

[Steven Desjardins]

I can only say inadequate things Paul, especially since I'm pretty
sure you appreciate your blessings.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> NICE.
>
> If you are such a great photographer, however, you should be able to
> take ONE picture of Grace where she is NOT cute as can be!
>
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> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Paul Stenquist  
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>> I don't know where she gets it. Definitely not from me:
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Re: PESO -- Waterfire; Providence Lights

[David Parsons]

Nice.  That was one of the most challenging things I've shot in a long
time.  A couple people from my camera club went down in July.

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Re: Cab for Hire

[P. J. Alling]

I like it, but I detect a bit of pattern noise, that while kind of grain 
like is also kind of like vertical streaking.  I think you need to 
overexpose and under develop so to speak.


On 9/16/2011 7:59 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Late night on Queen's Quay Blvd:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/cab-for-hire.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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PESO -- Waterfire; Providence Lights

[P. J. Alling]

A little bit of impressionism

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20waterfirelights.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

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Re: PESOs: Moves

[Daniel J. Matyola]

NICE.

If you are such a great photographer, however, you should be able to
take ONE picture of Grace where she is NOT cute as can be!

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On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I don't know where she gets it. Definitely not from me:
>
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Re: My backyard is humbling me

[Sam]

I enjoys the set on the tiny screen of my iPhone.  :-). I'll check it out later 
on big screen.

Here is my crazy idea for you:  try doing a vertical panorama.  It probably 
won't work well, but might give you something interesting.

Sent from my phone.

On Sep 21, 2011, at 1:21 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> A few of you have been to my house, and have seen my redwood grove.  Even 
> though they are young and small for redwoods, at about 100' tall and 4' in 
> diameter, they're still pretty big by human standards.  I recently picked up 
> a work from home programming contract, and when I need to clear my mind, I 
> tend to walk out into the back yard.  It's interesting how such a simple 
> change in pace can give me a newfound appreciation of the trees.
> 
> Even at my most jaded, simply wandering out into the redwood grove, and 
> looking up, has always been a good reminder of my place in the universe. For 
> many years, I've occasionally tried to take pictures of the redwood grove and 
> always completely fail to convey the emotional impact. If my camera is aimed 
> anything close to horizontal, all you see is a bunch of tree trunks, with no 
> context of how little of tree that you are seeing.  Aim the camera up, and/or 
> try to photograph from a distance, detail is lost and everything seems to 
> blend together. In addition to that, there is also the challenge of shooting 
> something in fairly deep shade against patchy views of bright sky.
> 
> Have any of you succeeded in showing the scale of something this size? either 
> a tree, or even a building.  Is it even possible on the scale of a computer 
> monitor, or even a print that is less than three feet on it's longest edge?
> 
> As you might guess, when I was taking a break this afternoon, I noticed how 
> the angle of the light brought out the texture of the bark on one of the 
> trees, inspiring me to grab the camera, and give another try. I think that 
> this shot does a fair job of showing the texture of the bark, even if it 
> fails to give any idea of scale:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168039027/in/set-72157627594004271/lightbox/
> 
> This shot, which has trees  in both the foreground and the background, might 
> be starting to give some idea of scale:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168577810/lightbox/
> 
> Does anyone have suggestions for what I might do?
> 
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PESOs: Moves

[Paul Stenquist]

I don't know where she gets it. Definitely not from me:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14274513
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14274512

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

[P. J. Alling]

On 9/24/2011 6:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:


Most of the "young people", I know doing serious shooting are using B&W film in 
vintage SLRs.

Do they ride their fixie bicycles to go shoot?


No but the unserious ones shoot with their iPhones.


:-)

Seriously though, more power to them.  I was one of those kids that used a 
fountain pen, just because it was archaic and different.  If decent digital 
cameras and processing had been around when I lost darkroom access, there 
wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious shooting.

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October PUG - "The Road is Long....

[Brian Walters]

With many a winding turn
That leads us to who knows where."

So far it leads us to 5 themed submissions plus one for the Open
Gallery.



Theme: Roads

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
the image looks right on line.


Cheers

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Re: Strange clicking in K-5 video

[Joseph McAllister]

Which .avi ?? I have dozens of .avi files stored. 10% of them Apple Quicktime 
tells me are not a recognized format, so they won't play at all. "I have no 
clue."  (MARK) 

On Sep 24, 2011, at 15:36 , Paul Sorenson wrote:

> The K-5 outputs video as .avi
> 
> -p
> 
> On 9/24/2011 5:17 PM, Cotty wrote:
>> On 24/9/11, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> Any idea why this is happening? I'm uploading the videos straight out of the
>>> camera; would that have anything to do with it?
>> 
>> Hmmm, as Bill says ' or something'.
>> 
>> Try converting them to something different before uploading them to
>> Youtube. Like a Quicktime Movie. Use Mpeg Streamclip if you don't have
>> any conversion software.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What type of file does the camera output the video as? Proprietary, I'll
>> bet. When you upload to Youtube, their encoding software churns it into
>> MP4 files, probably not happy with the uploaded file, hence the clicking.
>> 
>> Just a guess.
> 

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Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

[P. J. Alling]

There's still hope for you Cristine, you came back here to ask for help, 
rather than simply, quietly slitting your wrists...


On 9/19/2011 9:17 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

So... I've been thinking more&  more about stepping up to the k-5
recently.  In the interests of research, I wandered over to Pentax
Forums, just to see if there was any buzz, any good gossip, that might
influence my decision, or at least, timing.

Well, I think that was a mistake.

Down the rabbit-hole I went, for more precious weekend hours than I
care to admit.  I got totally sucked in to the hand-wringing&
rumor-mongering&  back and forthing over k-5 "issues".  And what about
the the k-5 vs d7000 vs d700?  Will there ever be a ff pentax
offering?  Will it be mirrorless?  What will ricoh do?  Is there a
roadmap?  New products this fall?  Maybe in Feb, then?  How about fall
2012?  Should we wait?  Should we buy?  Should we sell it all&  move
to nikon?  Can I get Hello Kitty on my next camera

I know this is nothing new, but it's really the first time I ever
waded in this far.  I think I may have PFOD'd.  And now, I can't get
rid of the anxiety. Tell me it's gonna be ok...

:)
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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Peter McIntosh]

On 25 September 2011 06:38, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Great capture.
>
> Kenneth Waller
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>
Thanks, Ken, and to everyone else for their comments also.

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne.

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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Peter McIntosh]

On 25 September 2011 05:41, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> Exceptional, Peter. While it may be clear to everyone else, pls tell me how 
>> you created that effect.
>
> Which effect?  The burning bits flying off the end?  Back in high school we'd 
> tie steel wool to a string, light it on fire and spin it around to get that 
> sort of effect.
>

What Larry said.  No special effects on my part. I couldn't see what
was used, but I suspect it was steel wool.

Regards,

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

[Larry Colen]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> Most of the "young people", I know doing serious shooting are using B&W film 
> in vintage SLRs.

Do they ride their fixie bicycles to go shoot?

:-)

Seriously though, more power to them.  I was one of those kids that used a 
fountain pen, just because it was archaic and different.  If decent digital 
cameras and processing had been around when I lost darkroom access, there 
wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious shooting.

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Re: PESO - The Orpheum

[Paul Sorenson]

Hey!  I used to go to movies there in the 1950s & 60s.  Was one of four 
movie houses in central Madison, then.  One on the Capitol square, the 
rest a couple blocks off the square.  Overture Hall, across the street 
from the Orpheum was the location of the Capitol Movie Theatre.  I had 
the good fortune of seeing Louis Armstrong live at the Orpheum in about 
1956.  Good memories...


-p

On 9/24/2011 5:15 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

This fine old pile is  a couple of blocks from the Wisconsin Capitol in 
Madison.  Built in 1926, it has had several lives (seems to have art films, 
comedians, and bands now), and nearly died of arson in 2004.

I just liked the building and sign agains the evening sky:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14263673

(K7, DA 16-45)

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Re: Strange clicking in K-5 video

[Paul Sorenson]

The K-5 outputs video as .avi

-p

On 9/24/2011 5:17 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 24/9/11, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:


Any idea why this is happening? I'm uploading the videos straight out of the
camera; would that have anything to do with it?


Hmmm, as Bill says ' or something'.

Try converting them to something different before uploading them to
Youtube. Like a Quicktime Movie. Use Mpeg Streamclip if you don't have
any conversion software.



What type of file does the camera output the video as? Proprietary, I'll
bet. When you upload to Youtube, their encoding software churns it into
MP4 files, probably not happy with the uploaded file, hence the clicking.

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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Jack Davis]

I suppose that second shot is your private office? Send along another when your 
office furnishings are in place.(I removed a smiley face from here)
Seriously clean well exposed/edited images.

Jack
- Original Message -
From: Christine Aguila 
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:03 PM
Subject: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

Hi Everyone:

A couple of things:

1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few years is 
just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office space.  
My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being used.  

2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, to 
my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure up by 
a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some punch and 
a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera with some 
punch in Lightroom 3.

http://www.caguila.com/photos/

Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine



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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Paul Sorenson]

Nice additions, nice photos.  The more I use my K-5, the more I like it

-p

On 9/24/2011 3:03 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

A couple of things:

1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few years is 
just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office space.  
My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being used.

2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, to 
my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure up by 
a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some punch and 
a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera with some 
punch in Lightroom 3.

http://www.caguila.com/photos/

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RE: PESO - The Orpheum

[Bob W]

> 
> This fine old pile is  a couple of blocks from the Wisconsin Capitol in
> Madison.  Built in 1926, it has had several lives (seems to have art
> films, comedians, and bands now), and nearly died of arson in 2004.
> 
> I just liked the building and sign agains the evening sky:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14263673
> 
> (K7, DA 16-45)
> 
> Rick

an orphully nice-looking building!

B


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RE: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured?

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Peter Jordan
> 
> Apparently it won't work - how do I know?
> 
> Kenny Boy said a few weeks ago that he'd heard of it, knew nothing
> about it, but it was clearly hokum.
> 
> How can you argue against such impeccable logic?
> 

I think you need to give Kenny a break on this one, really. I mean, at the
time he had other things to concentrate on, like telling CERN about the
neutrinos he'd been timing in his Nikon atom-smasher.

B

> Peter
> 
> On 16 Sep 2011, at 00:47, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> 
> > whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the
> photo
> > AFTER its captured?
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Re: Strange clicking in K-5 video

[Cotty]

On 24/9/11, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Any idea why this is happening? I'm uploading the videos straight out of the
>camera; would that have anything to do with it?

Hmmm, as Bill says ' or something'.

Try converting them to something different before uploading them to
Youtube. Like a Quicktime Movie. Use Mpeg Streamclip if you don't have
any conversion software.



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PESO - The Orpheum

[Rick Womer]

This fine old pile is  a couple of blocks from the Wisconsin Capitol in 
Madison.  Built in 1926, it has had several lives (seems to have art films, 
comedians, and bands now), and nearly died of arson in 2004.

I just liked the building and sign agains the evening sky:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14263673

(K7, DA 16-45)

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

[P. J. Alling]

Most of the "young people", I know doing serious shooting are using B&W 
film in vintage SLRs.


On 9/22/2011 1:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Tom C

It doesn't validate it to me. I'm not sure what camera companies are
thinking, but it seems to be along the lines of  'hey, there's some
sucker out there that will buy anything if we make it and market it
right'. It's almost like they're deliberately attempting to insult the
consumers intelligence. Maybe image quality (IQ) = intelligence
quotient (IQ).


Their target market is young people. We're not.




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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Nicely done, Christine! You've captured the interior very well.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> A couple of things:
>
> 1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few years is 
> just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office space. 
>  My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being used.
>
> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, 
> to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure 
> up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some 
> punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera 
> with some punch in Lightroom 3.
>
> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
>
> Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine
>
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Re: whats with this new technology where you can change the focus of the photo AFTER its captured?

[Peter Jordan]

Apparently it won't work - how do I know?

Kenny Boy said a few weeks ago that he'd heard of it, knew nothing about it, 
but it was clearly hokum.

How can you argue against such impeccable logic?

Peter

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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Ken Waller]

Great capture.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter McIntosh" 

Subject: PESO - Fire Dance


Hi guys,

Just back from 10 days R & R in Ko Samui, Thailand. Took the K5 on a
Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag. Turned out to
be a great travel kit.

Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
discussions on low-light abilities and the like. It's here:

http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869

EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
No noise reduction.

Comments most welcome.

Regards,

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Re: GESO & a question about the web & color mgt...

[William Robb]

On 24/09/2011 1:57 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:


You have a beautiful, natural light source there, take advantage of it.



Oh, I plan to!  I think there's a bit of a learning curve, though
the light in there changes throughout the day, and, I suspect, with
the seasons...



Covering the window with a diffuser will tend to reduce the 
directionality of the light.


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RE: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Bob W]

nice job they made of the building, and a nice job you made of the shots.

B

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> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> A couple of things:
> 
> 1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few
> years is just about done.  This past week folks began to move into
> their office space.  My next shoot will be when folks are in and the
> facilities are being used.
> 
> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first
> shot, to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop
> the exposure up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--
> well, I gave it some punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd
> shot is straight off camera with some punch in Lightroom 3.
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
> 
> Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine
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Re: The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Larry Colen]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
> 
> A couple of things:
> 
> 1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few years is 
> just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office space. 
>  My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being used.  
> 
> 2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, 
> to my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure 
> up by a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some 
> punch and a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera 
> with some punch in Lightroom 3.
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/photos/
> 
> Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine

Nice shots.  I'd say that the exposure, and the dynamic range, were both nailed.

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PESO 2011 - 126 - GDG

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A walk in Guadalupe River Park ...

  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6178982664/in/set-72157625672485865/lightbox/
or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6178982664/in/set-72157625672485865/

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 

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The K-5 Makes Me Giddy :-)

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

A couple of things:

1)  That construction project I have been shooting for the past few years is 
just about done.  This past week folks began to move into their office space.  
My next shoot will be when folks are in and the facilities are being used.  

2)  I have two shots below.  The K-5 is an amazing camera.  The first shot, to 
my mind, shows how well the K-5 handles exposure.  I did pop the exposure up by 
a half stop in Lightroom 3, but that's about it--well, I gave it some punch and 
a nudge of noise reduction.  The 2nd shot is straight off camera with some 
punch in Lightroom 3.

http://www.caguila.com/photos/

Our new space looks nice, don't ya think?  cheers, Christine



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Re: GESO & a question about the web & color mgt...

[Christine Nielsen]

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:51 AM, William Robb
 wrote:

>
> I didn't read this thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but
> get some translucent fabric and cover that window.
> Get enough fabric and make yourself some big, stand up reflectors as well.
> I made a 4x6 foot reflector using copper plumbing pipe, and used a variety
> of fabrics as reflectors or gobos.

I'm with you... double curtain rod ordered yesterday.  I plan to have
one layer of sheer white panels to provide diffusion, and another more
solid, to better block light when needed...
>
> You have a beautiful, natural light source there, take advantage of it.
>

Oh, I plan to!  I think there's a bit of a learning curve, though
the light in there changes throughout the day, and, I suspect, with
the seasons...

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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Larry Colen]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Exceptional, Peter. While it may be clear to everyone else, pls tell me how 
> you created that effect.

Which effect?  The burning bits flying off the end?  Back in high school we'd 
tie steel wool to a string, light it on fire and spin it around to get that 
sort of effect.

>  
> Jack
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> Subject: PESO - Fire Dance
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Just back from 10 days R & R in Ko Samui, Thailand.  Took the K5 on a
> Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
> ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag.  Turned out to
> be a great travel kit.
> 
> Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
> pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
> discussions on low-light abilities and the like.  It's here:
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869
> 
> EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
> camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
> reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
> is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
> No noise reduction.
> 
> Comments most welcome.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Larry Colen]

That's a great shot

I've tried photographing firespinners and know how tough it is.

On Sep 24, 2011, at 6:47 AM, Peter McIntosh wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> Just back from 10 days R & R in Ko Samui, Thailand.  Took the K5 on a
> Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
> ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag.  Turned out to
> be a great travel kit.
> 
> Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
> pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
> discussions on low-light abilities and the like.  It's here:
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869
> 
> EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
> camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
> reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
> is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
> No noise reduction.
> 
> Comments most welcome.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
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Re: Strange clicking in K-5 video

[William Robb]

On 24/09/2011 1:02 PM, John Celio wrote:

Recently I shot a few videos of a kitten that will be coming home with
me in a month or two. When I play them on my computer, everything is
fine (aside from my lack of manual focusing ability). When I upload them
to Facebook or YouTube, there's a strange clicking/popping sound in the
audio that wasn't there originally.

See/hear for yourself here: http://www.youtube.com/user/neopifex#p/u

Any idea why this is happening? I'm uploading the videos straight out of
the camera; would that have anything to do with it?

John


My understanding is that it has something to do with the codec. Anyway, 
it is a problem with the encoder that is being used by the external 
displayer.
I'm not sure what the cure is, though apparently, people using 
Microsoft's Movie Maker that is shipping with Win Xp and onwards don't 
have this happening, so if you are using Windows, you might be able to 
re encode it using that program.


Or something.

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Strange clicking in K-5 video

[John Celio]

Recently I shot a few videos of a kitten that will be coming home with me in 
a month or two. When I play them on my computer, everything is fine (aside 
from my lack of manual focusing ability). When I upload them to Facebook or 
YouTube, there's a strange clicking/popping sound in the audio that wasn't 
there originally.


See/hear for yourself here: http://www.youtube.com/user/neopifex#p/u

Any idea why this is happening? I'm uploading the videos straight out of the 
camera; would that have anything to do with it?


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Re: Boris grows older and his brand loyalty to Pentax deepens

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
Happy Birthday.
You'll get used to the glasses.
But watch that you don't trip on the stairs.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> On 9/23/2011 21:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> Happy Birthday, Boris!  ... Bloody youngsters... ! ;-)
>
> :-).
>
>> I've not seen Pentax frames in the US very often, but Pentax (along
>> with Zeiss and Bausch&  Lombe) for the optics are the ones I've chosen
>> for my glasses for many years.
>
> Frames indeed. Oddly enough other folks seem to have misread me. It is not
> the lenses that are made by Pentax but rather the frame.
>
>> I follow and enjoy your blog even though I don't comment ... it seems
>> to want me to have a subscription to something or other that I don't
>> have to post a comment there.
>
> I had to make it so that only if you have Google acct you can comment.
> Otherwise it gets filled up with spam pretty fast. I will review this as I
> understand Google's been working and may be they have more advanced
> functionality in this respect.
>
> Thank you and thank everyone else who commented/responded.
>
> Boris
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Re: GESO & a question about the web & color mgt...

[Paul Sorenson]

One could try reducing the overall exposure to kill the hot spots a 
little, then add some fill to bring back some of the detail in the 
shadows...much the same as doing it "in camera".  Might work if the hot 
spots aren't too hot.


For minor hot spots and reflections, this technique often works well, too.

http://vimeo.com/12959133

-p

On 9/22/2011 10:58 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

I'll concede the point to someone who knows far more than I do about the topic. 
As you and others have pointed out, the overall range of EVs is too great 
across the scene. Best to fix that upfront with different lighting balance. My 
point was that, for these photos already shot, a rescue might be as simple as 
an overall exposure reduction. Maybe at the expense of some shadow detail, but 
that might be a preferable outcome. I am way worse than a novice when it comes 
to PS manipulations in general, so I know that for me any rescue of the type 
you suggested would result in total disaster. So I look for alternative 
approaches. As I implied, I make no claim that my way is the right way, just 
another possible approach.

stan

On Sep 22, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


On 11-09-22 8:46 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

My quick very non-judgmental reactions (i.e., based on feel, not on analysis 
using my own or others' criteria for what makes a good portrait):

a. Good model. You are lucky to have her as your model, she is lucky to have 
you as her photographer.
b.  The left side of the three portraits all seem "hot" to me. I wouldn't 
fiddle to the extent suggested by Bruce; I would just lower overall exposure a notch or 
two.


Stan, the trouble with attempting to tame the hotspot by reducing overall 
exposure is that you'll probably end up with underexposure on 98% of the face 
with just the hotspot correctly exposed.

You need to either use some makeup (eg powder) to kill the reflection there, or 
place a gobo to cut the direct light, or use a larger, less harsh light source. 
 Christine could likely have positioned a white diffuser on a stand in front of 
the window to act both as a partial gobo and to enlarge the light source to cut 
the glare. But that would have altered the nature of the light and produced a 
different portrait.

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Re: Regarding my block

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
I do like the 'Thinker' photo you posted to your blog.
You have to give us a link if you want us to visit.  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Since it's been requested and since Godfrey pointed out that there has to be
> some kind of registration to post to my blog, I checked and the following is
> correct as of this moment:
>
> 1. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/ is the address of my blog.
> 2. If you have an OpenID, LiveJournal, Wordpress, TypePad, AIM or Google
> account, you can post comments in my blog.
>
> FYI
>
> Thanks.
>
> Boris
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Re: This weekend

[Paul Sorenson]

Wow!! I had the same thought.  Never would have considered Erie for a 
romantic get-away.


-p

On 9/24/2011 7:24 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Gee... I've never thought of Erie as a get-away sort of place.  What am I 
missing?

Have fun!

Rick

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From: Collin Brendemuehl
Subject: This weekend
To: "pdml"
Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 8:15 AM
Off to Erie, PA.
30th anniversary getaway.
I'm taking the camera.
Wife is also invited.  :-)

Sincerely,

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Re: Boris grows older and his brand loyalty to Pentax deepens

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Frames indeed. Oddly enough other folks seem to have misread me. It is
> not the lenses that are made by Pentax but rather the frame.

I've had multi-focals for the last ten years. Three years ago, I needed
new ones and my optician had just changed his supplier for multi-focals.
Used to be Essilor and then it was Hoya. Tried them on and... yikes!
Like looking through some cheap Taiwanese wide-angle converter. Also,
the useable zone in the centre of the glasses was much smaller. I
couldn't even drive with them.  

He suspected an error in production and had them exchanged. Same result.
Eventually he agreed to take them back and order a pair of new glasses
from Essilor. For my next, the current ones, he didn't even try to
suggest Hoya... ;-)

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Re: Regarding my block

[Boris Liberman]

It is of course bloG and not bloCK.

Silly me.

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Regarding my block

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Since it's been requested and since Godfrey pointed out that there has 
to be some kind of registration to post to my blog, I checked and the 
following is correct as of this moment:


1. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/ is the address of my blog.
2. If you have an OpenID, LiveJournal, Wordpress, TypePad, AIM or Google 
account, you can post comments in my blog.


FYI

Thanks.

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RE: PESO - Fire Dance

[Bob W]

that's an excellent shot - you should enter it in some sort of travel photo
competition.

B

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> Sent: 24 September 2011 14:47
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> Subject: PESO - Fire Dance
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Just back from 10 days R & R in Ko Samui, Thailand.  Took the K5 on a
> Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
> ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag.  Turned out to
> be a great travel kit.
> 
> Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
> pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
> discussions on low-light abilities and the like.  It's here:
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869
> 
> EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
> camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
> reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
> is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
> No noise reduction.
> 
> Comments most welcome.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete Mac in Melbourne
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Re: PESO - Happiness is a Warm Kitten

[Steven Desjardins]

Greta shot, frank.  You caught that moment of simple happiness.

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> "Warm" shot.
>
> Jack
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: PESO - Happiness is a Warm Kitten
>
> I was at an fundraising event last weekend for the Etobicoke Humane
> Society.  They brought kittens for adoption.  They were hard to
> resist:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/happiness-is-warm-kitten.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: They never want the clear shots

[Steven Desjardins]

I'm with Bruce on this.  Offer her the variations, but she obviously
likes this one because she picked it.  After all, you gave her a range
from posed high quality images to "in the moment with all the flaws",
which is what most folks want a photographer to do.  Especially
another "artist".

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On 11-09-23 10:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> A while back I posted about a friend wanting to use one of my photos for
>> her album cover.  She did a small run of CDs by herself, but now they're
>> going off to be done for real. So rather than just the album cover, she
>> needs pictures on the liner notes as well.  So, while she's on a business
>> trip, she has to get some shots ready for her graphic designer to do the
>> layout, she's poking around on facebook picking her favorite shots, and
>> asked for three more of mine.
>>
>> That's great, it's a nice ego stroke and all that.  One of the shots is
>> what I'd consider technically acceptable.  I had someone hold my AF540 off
>> camera, and posed a shot of her, and another musician.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176828342/in/set-72157627606964975
>>
>> Two, pretty women, with nice smiles, what's not to like?  I blew out some
>> of the highlights, but for quicky portraits done on a stage with a single
>> speedlight, I'm not complaining.
>
> I'd remove the red-eye from both girls and fix the hotspots and clean up the
> skin blemishes on Michelle's cheek.  CD art is printed at at least 400dpi
> and small details are likely to show up.
>
>
>>
>> Another of the shots isn't too bad, if you don't look to closely:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6173860436/in/set-72157627606964975
>>
>> And for ISO 10,000, it's not too bad. But blow it up at all, and while the
>> K-5 is pretty damned impressive at ISO 10,000, it's still ISO 10,000, and at
>> f/2.8 I'm not quite sure what the camera actually focused on, but I suspect
>> it might be the bricks behind the musicians.
>
> That one's just fine, I'd say. A good performance shot. The softness won't
> matter at the size that's likely to be reproduced.
>
>
>>
>> The last one she wanted, ouch.  Considering the lighting, and that I was
>> shooting hand held with the K-x at ISO4000, it's not bad. But, Don Quixote's
>> loves their red gels. It looks like it was photographed in a darkroom:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176866538/
>> So I tried a b&w conversion:
>
> Stop right there and ask yourself why you are trying to eliminate the red.
> It's part of the performance; it's what the audience saw, after all; it is
> the character, mood, ambiance of the space.  This isn't a product shoot
> where you need to colour calibrate everything to remove an unwanted colour
> cast.
>
> I'd be willing to bet that the artist chose this shot because of what she
> saw. She's not expecting you to monkey with it.
>
> I'd give the customer what she wants. :-)
>
> -bmw
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Re: Boris grows older and his brand loyalty to Pentax deepens

[Boris Liberman]

On 9/23/2011 21:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Happy Birthday, Boris!  ... Bloody youngsters... ! ;-)


:-).


I've not seen Pentax frames in the US very often, but Pentax (along
with Zeiss and Bausch&  Lombe) for the optics are the ones I've chosen
for my glasses for many years.


Frames indeed. Oddly enough other folks seem to have misread me. It is 
not the lenses that are made by Pentax but rather the frame.



I follow and enjoy your blog even though I don't comment ... it seems
to want me to have a subscription to something or other that I don't
have to post a comment there.


I had to make it so that only if you have Google acct you can comment. 
Otherwise it gets filled up with spam pretty fast. I will review this as 
I understand Google's been working and may be they have more advanced 
functionality in this respect.


Thank you and thank everyone else who commented/responded.

Boris


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Epson R2400 ink- free plus shipping

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I have quite a few ink cartridges for the Epson R2400, a printer I no longer 
use -- 8 to 10 I think. Most are a few months past the expiration date, but in 
my experience post-date cartridges work fine. They're free to any United States 
list member who wants to pay shipping. Should be less than ten bucks.

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Re: FS Friday late: Anyone wanna buy an Epson 2200 printer?

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What does that kind of offer never happens near my area?

Happy new home to your 2200 :)

2011/9/24 Mark Roberts :
> One of my clients just paid me (in advance!) for a big photo/web
> project and I'm thinking of upgrading to the latest Epson R3000
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> The problem is... it's a rather large printer. So even at a low price
> (I'm thinking $150.00) it probably will need to go to someone local.
> (I have the original box and all packing, but I expect shipping won't
> be cheap.
>
> So I'm asking The List if anyone's interested. It was refurbished by
> Epson  last year (Epson's biggest service shop is near Boston so I
> didn't have to ship it anywhere  - one reason I'm sticking with Epson
> printers) It got a new motherboard, print heads, etc..
>
> So anyway... Epson 2200 with two new ink cartridges (black and cyan)
> for $150.00 plus shipping if you're too far away to come and pick it
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Re: I may have hosed myself: dilemma of a PS novice

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On 24/09/2011 6:16 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

Shot a bunch of pics in RAW at a campout a few weeks ago.
But I may have changed the colorspace or something.
Now PSElements will not load them.
What can be done?


You've probably switched your raw from DNG to PEF.
If this is the case, and your converter isn't new enough to open the 
PEFs, download the DNG converter from Adobe's website.


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Re: GESO & a question about the web & color mgt...

[William Robb]

On 22/09/2011 1:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:



So... what to do?  Anything?  Maybe it's me... Or is this just the way
it goes???  Any thoughts are appreciated...


I didn't read this thread, so I don't know if this has been mentioned, 
but get some translucent fabric and cover that window.

Get enough fabric and make yourself some big, stand up reflectors as well.
I made a 4x6 foot reflector using copper plumbing pipe, and used a 
variety of fabrics as reflectors or gobos.


You have a beautiful, natural light source there, take advantage of it.

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Re: They never want the clear shots

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On 24 September 2011 03:38, Larry Colen  wrote:
> A while back I posted about a friend wanting to use one of my photos for her 
> album cover.  She did a small run of CDs by herself, but now they're going 
> off to be done for real. So rather than just the album cover, she needs 
> pictures on the liner notes as well.  So, while she's on a business trip, she 
> has to get some shots ready for her graphic designer to do the layout, she's 
> poking around on facebook picking her favorite shots, and asked for three 
> more of mine.
>
...Snip snip
> Now that I think of it, maybe I should try a version with the brush just set 
> to desaturate.
> If that works, I'll post it to
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627606964975/
>
> I'm more than a little tempted to just tell her that one day we're going to 
> schedule a concert for her in my redwood grove, for which I'll set up lights. 
>  We'll get some decent shots of her, and she won't have to use the ones that 
> look like they were shot with a cell phone.
>
> --
Don't forget Larry that they'll be tiny on an insert for an album
cover so no need to worry too much about detail. Also she might want
them for their colour to fit in with an overall theme so probably best
not to go too far!

Quite an accolade though...

Chris

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FS Friday late: Anyone wanna buy an Epson 2200 printer?

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The problem is... it's a rather large printer. So even at a low price
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(I have the original box and all packing, but I expect shipping won't
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So I'm asking The List if anyone's interested. It was refurbished by
Epson  last year (Epson's biggest service shop is near Boston so I
didn't have to ship it anywhere  - one reason I'm sticking with Epson
printers) It got a new motherboard, print heads, etc..

So anyway... Epson 2200 with two new ink cartridges (black and cyan)
for $150.00 plus shipping if you're too far away to come and pick it
up.


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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

[William Robb]

On 22/09/2011 2:55 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:





Ahhh, now THAT's exciting, isn't it...

How could Pentax, who's known, nay REnowned for it's sharp optics,
possibly assume folks will line up at their door to buy optics that take
blurry seriously?



Every company has to try to attract customers away from the competition.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

[William Robb]

On 22/09/2011 10:10 AM, Tom C wrote:



No doubt she hasn't, but one can infer to some degree from the specs.
Really, just about any modern digital camera on the market has
*acceptable* image quality within a certain set of parameters. My
Canon S90 and G10 which have small sensors have excellent image
quality for the shooting circumstances and purposes for which I use
them. Compared to my NEX-5 their limitations easily become evident.
I'm sure the Q will also produce excellent images within a defined set
of parameters.


I suspect the Q will be completely adequate in the good light conditions 
that most travel photos are made with.




The issue to now was how an $800 camera with such a small sensor would
fair against similar 4/3 and APS-C offerings that have similar or even
lower price points. The answer will no doubt be that it's a nice
camera, but not alot of bang for the buck (at $800) compared to some
of the competition.

Tom C.



It really depends on how you base your decisions, doesn't it.
the things that hold me back from the Q are it's size (it's too small 
for my hands) and my preference for viewfinders.
If the Q had a next generation EVF along with it's next generation 
sensor, I would probably have bought one a few days ago.


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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Jack Davis]

Exceptional, Peter. While it may be clear to everyone else, pls tell me how you 
created that effect.
 
Jack

- Original Message -
From: Peter McIntosh 
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:47 AM
Subject: PESO - Fire Dance

Hi guys,

Just back from 10 days R & R in Ko Samui, Thailand.  Took the K5 on a
Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag.  Turned out to
be a great travel kit.

Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
discussions on low-light abilities and the like.  It's here:

http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869

EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
No noise reduction.

Comments most welcome.

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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Re: PESO - Happiness is a Warm Kitten

[Jack Davis]

"Warm" shot.

Jack
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From: frank theriault 
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 6:08 AM
Subject: PESO - Happiness is a Warm Kitten

I was at an fundraising event last weekend for the Etobicoke Humane
Society.  They brought kittens for adoption.  They were hard to
resist:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/happiness-is-warm-kitten.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-09-24 9:47 AM, Peter McIntosh wrote:

Hi guys,

Just back from 10 days R&  R in Ko Samui, Thailand.  Took the K5 on a
Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag.  Turned out to
be a great travel kit.

Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
discussions on low-light abilities and the like.  It's here:

http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869

EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
No noise reduction.

Comments most welcome.

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne


That's a really great shot, Pete. A definite winner.

-bmw

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Re: PESO - Fire Dance

[Steven Desjardins]

It's easy to get complacent about what modern cameras can do. It's a  
great shot.


Steve Desjardins

On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Peter McIntosh  wrote:


Hi guys,

Just back from 10 days R & R in Ko Samui, Thailand.  Took the K5 on a
Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag.  Turned out to
be a great travel kit.

Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
discussions on low-light abilities and the like.  It's here:

http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869

EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
No noise reduction.

Comments most welcome.

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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Re: I may have hosed myself: dilemma of a PS novice

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Oops.  Duh.  & whatever else is suitable.
After I got the new laptop I forgot to also install the converter.
Doing that fixed it.
Thanks all.

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
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PESO - Fire Dance

[Peter McIntosh]

Hi guys,

Just back from 10 days R & R in Ko Samui, Thailand.  Took the K5 on a
Camdapter wrist strap, the 18-135 zoom , a couple of filters (POL and
ND 4X), FGZ 360 flash, in a Lowepro Passport Sling bag.  Turned out to
be a great travel kit.

Took lots of holiday snaps; there were a couple I was particularly
pleased with, and one of these is quite relevant given recent
discussions on low-light abilities and the like.  It's here:

http://www.pbase.com/petergly/image/138318869

EXIF: 1/90s f/5.6 at 53.0mm @ iso12800.  I'm astounded by what the
camera captured.  This was basically an unlit beach except for some
reflected light from the restaurant I was standing in. All I've done
is a little contrast adjustment and minor sharpening on the K5 jpeg.
No noise reduction.

Comments most welcome.

Regards,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

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Re: I may have hosed myself: dilemma of a PS novice

[Brian Walters]

On Saturday, September 24, 2011 12:16 PM, "Collin Brendemuehl"
 wrote:
> Shot a bunch of pics in RAW at a campout a few weeks ago.
> But I may have changed the colorspace or something.
> Now PSElements will not load them.
> What can be done?


It's likely that the version of Camera Raw in your version of PSE
doesn't handle the PEFs from your camera but it will handle DNG.  As
Paul said - use DNG in future to overcome the problem.

Do you have the Pentax software that came with the camera? That will
open the files.  Alternatively you could download and install the free
Raw Therapee software.  It's a very nice application with support for
pretty much all recent cameras.  It should be able to process the files
and allow you to save them as TIF or JPG:

http://rawtherapee.com/downloads



Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO - Happiness is a Warm Kitten

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-09-24 9:08 AM, frank theriault wrote:

I was at an fundraising event last weekend for the Etobicoke Humane
Society.  They brought kittens for adoption.  They were hard to
resist:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/happiness-is-warm-kitten.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



A terrific, warm shot, Frank.

How many kitties did _you_ take home?  :-)

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Re: They never want the clear shots

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-09-23 10:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

A while back I posted about a friend wanting to use one of my photos for her 
album cover.  She did a small run of CDs by herself, but now they're going off 
to be done for real. So rather than just the album cover, she needs pictures on 
the liner notes as well.  So, while she's on a business trip, she has to get 
some shots ready for her graphic designer to do the layout, she's poking around 
on facebook picking her favorite shots, and asked for three more of mine.

That's great, it's a nice ego stroke and all that.  One of the shots is what 
I'd consider technically acceptable.  I had someone hold my AF540 off camera, 
and posed a shot of her, and another musician.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176828342/in/set-72157627606964975

Two, pretty women, with nice smiles, what's not to like?  I blew out some of 
the highlights, but for quicky portraits done on a stage with a single 
speedlight, I'm not complaining.


I'd remove the red-eye from both girls and fix the hotspots and clean up 
the skin blemishes on Michelle's cheek.  CD art is printed at at least 
400dpi and small details are likely to show up.





Another of the shots isn't too bad, if you don't look to closely:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6173860436/in/set-72157627606964975

And for ISO 10,000, it's not too bad. But blow it up at all, and while the K-5 
is pretty damned impressive at ISO 10,000, it's still ISO 10,000, and at f/2.8 
I'm not quite sure what the camera actually focused on, but I suspect it might 
be the bricks behind the musicians.


That one's just fine, I'd say. A good performance shot. The softness 
won't matter at the size that's likely to be reproduced.





The last one she wanted, ouch.  Considering the lighting, and that I was 
shooting hand held with the K-x at ISO4000, it's not bad. But, Don Quixote's 
loves their red gels. It looks like it was photographed in a darkroom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176866538/
So I tried a b&w conversion:


Stop right there and ask yourself why you are trying to eliminate the 
red. It's part of the performance; it's what the audience saw, after 
all; it is the character, mood, ambiance of the space.  This isn't a 
product shoot where you need to colour calibrate everything to remove an 
unwanted colour cast.


I'd be willing to bet that the artist chose this shot because of what 
she saw. She's not expecting you to monkey with it.


I'd give the customer what she wants. :-)

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PESO - Happiness is a Warm Kitten

[frank theriault]

I was at an fundraising event last weekend for the Etobicoke Humane
Society.  They brought kittens for adoption.  They were hard to
resist:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/happiness-is-warm-kitten.html

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cheers,
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Re: I may have hosed myself: dilemma of a PS novice

[Paul Stenquist]

If you have a copy of Elements that includes ACR, it should load them. However, 
your copy of ACR must be updated to include RAW conversion of your file type. 
The catch is that Adobe doesn't provide recenet file type upgrades for old 
versions of ACR. The safe bet when shooting RAW with recent Pentax DSLR cameras 
is to shoot RAW DNG. However, you should be able to use Adobe's DNG converter 
and convert the Pentax RAW files to DNG RAW. I think the RAW converter is a 
free download.
Paul

On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

> Shot a bunch of pics in RAW at a campout a few weeks ago.
> But I may have changed the colorspace or something.
> Now PSElements will not load them.
> What can be done?
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
> Collin Brendemuehl 
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> -- Jim Elliott 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: This weekend

[Rick Womer]

Gee... I've never thought of Erie as a get-away sort of place.  What am I 
missing?

Have fun!

Rick

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--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Collin Brendemuehl  wrote:

> From: Collin Brendemuehl 
> Subject: This weekend
> To: "pdml" 
> Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 8:15 AM
> Off to Erie, PA.
> 30th anniversary getaway.
> I'm taking the camera.
> Wife is also invited.  :-)
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
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> he cannot lose" 
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I may have hosed myself: dilemma of a PS novice

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Shot a bunch of pics in RAW at a campout a few weeks ago.
But I may have changed the colorspace or something.
Now PSElements will not load them.
What can be done?

Sincerely, 

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This weekend

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Off to Erie, PA.
30th anniversary getaway.
I'm taking the camera.
Wife is also invited.  :-)

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
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Re: First Android App: Film Developing Timer

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>Just out of curiosity, what's it do that requires 2.2 or better?
>
>-- 
>Scott Loveless
>Camp Hill, PA  USA

Nothing I know of.
I built it for my HTC Inspire and I don't have any older units for testing.

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Re: They never want the clear shots

[Larry Colen]

On 9/24/2011 2:10 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


The last one she wanted, ouch.  Considering the lighting, and that I was 
shooting hand held with the K-x at ISO4000, it's not bad. But, Don Quixote's 
loves their red gels. It looks like it was photographed in a darkroom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176866538/

So I tried a b&w conversion:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176871650/
which looks like it was shot with Tri-X pushed to 1600.

I would have stopped there, either B&W or red looks good to me and I really don't see a 
need to try and "restore" the colour.  Let their graphic designer cope with them 
as-is :)




You're probably right. I never seem to know when to stop. But, all of my 
successes in life seem to come from my inability to know when to stop.  
Likewise all of my biggest failures.


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Re: They never want the clear shots

[David Mann]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> The last one she wanted, ouch.  Considering the lighting, and that I was 
> shooting hand held with the K-x at ISO4000, it's not bad. But, Don Quixote's 
> loves their red gels. It looks like it was photographed in a darkroom:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176866538/
> 
> So I tried a b&w conversion:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6176871650/
> which looks like it was shot with Tri-X pushed to 1600.

I would have stopped there, either B&W or red looks good to me and I really 
don't see a need to try and "restore" the colour.  Let their graphic designer 
cope with them as-is :)

Cheers,
Dave



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RE: PESO: Two sheep

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Tim Bray

> There's really nothing I can add to the subject line.
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/24/-
> big/RUNE2645.jpg.html
> 
> I have to ask: Is the first ever sheep-oriented PESO?

"What has been will be again, 
what has been done will be done again; 
there is nothing new under the sun."

In other words, we've herd it all before...





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Re: PESO: Two sheep

[Larry Colen]

On Sep 24, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
> 
>> There's really nothing I can add to the subject line.
>> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/24/-big/RUNE2645.jpg.html
>> 
>> I have to ask: Is the first ever sheep-oriented PESO?
> 
> Google says not:
> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=115


What I typed into my google search was 
sheep peso pdml

This link was amusing:
Filter Results - Sex My Web - Adult Media from the Web

www.sexmyweb.com/web.../search.php?... - Spain
Results 81 - 100 – Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay Dec 4, 2004 cbwaters 
wrote: > Since nobody else has really ... 
www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg21.html ... File Format: PDF/Adobe 
Acrobat - View as HTMLBig Sheep Hammock. ...

I guess that sexmyweb.com does web searches for "interesting" words, and 
decided Assawoman Bay was something sexy.


However this link to Derek Miller's blog:
Dogmeat Pad: May 2011

limbsandthings.typepad.com/blog/2011/05/page/15/
May 4, 2011 – ... one of my PDML colleagues recently posted a “PESO” (see PDML 
+ . partner (Rene Bond) to get him in the mood by imitating a sheep, ...

looked rather intriguing, but it turns out was rather poignant.   The page 
starts off with:

By Derek on May 4, 2011 7:51 AM | 143 Comments | No TrackBacks
Here it is. I'm dead, and this is my last post to my blog. In advance, I asked 
that once my body finally shut down from the punishments of my cancer, then my 
family and friends publish this prepared message I wrote—the first part of the 
process of turning this from an active website to an archive.

Who was this guy?  Was he on PDML?  

The relevant post in the blog starts out with:
I’d typed the first let­ter of some URL into the ad­dress win­dow when I was 
in­ter­rupted. Look­ing back a mo­ment later, I was star­tled at what the 
browser had as­sumed I wanted to visit.

So here are my A,B,C browser guesses, which I sus­pect say some­thing about me. 
What are yours?

and the second one was the relevant hit:
[B]eilby Fine Arts; one of my PDML col­leagues re­cently posted a “PESO” (see 
PDML + Twit­ter) here that I checked out.

But what's even more interesting was the first one was:
[A]ndroid De­vel­op­ers Blog. Not sur­pris­ing, I edit it.

And when I click on that link, who do I see made the three latest posts, but 
Tim Bray, also of Vancouver.

It's really weird, how small and interconnected the world is.


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Re: PESO: Two sheep

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On Sep 24, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

> There's really nothing I can add to the subject line.
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/24/-big/RUNE2645.jpg.html
> 
> I have to ask: Is the first ever sheep-oriented PESO?

Google says not:
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=115

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PESO: Two sheep

[Tim Bray]

There's really nothing I can add to the subject line.
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/24/-big/RUNE2645.jpg.html

I have to ask: Is the first ever sheep-oriented PESO?

 -T

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