Re: Lightroom mistakes

[David Mann]

On May 11, 2016, at 7:52 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> I do not want to watch five minutes of video when I could scan a written page 
> in 15 seconds, or less, to find the thing I'm looking for.  Adobe won't even 
> publish the scripts for their online tutorials.

The nice thing about text is that it's easily searchable.

Cheers,
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Re: Hobart PDML-meet

[Philip Northeast]

late January through March is the best time for warm to mild settled 
weather.


The equinoxical gales can be a bit unpleasant.

Philip Northeast

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On 11/05/2016 3:26 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Wed, May 11, 2016, at 01:04 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I was slow to realize the obvious alternative title to the photo,
but it caught up with me this morning:
"Tasmanian devils" :-)

And seeing Brian's and Henk's photos got me wanting to visit that
"far-far-away" Island.



You'll enjoy it but if the wind and rain that we're getting is typical
of this time of year, perhaps early autumn or spring might be more
enjoyable.

(snow on Mt Wellington this morning - and winter is still weeks away!)

I like 'Tasmanian Devils' as a title, or, to be more authentic Oz lingo
- 'Tassie Devils". Obviously I've never heard of the Click & Clack
brothers.


Cheers

Brian
(from windy Bruny Island)





On Mon, 9 May 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Nice photo!
You look like "Click and Clack" brothers.

Igor

PS. The reference is to a very popular US public radio show:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Ray_Magliozzi
PPS. While the main portion of that reference is based on the obvious phrase
reference, the relation in the photo is somewhat similar to that in their
images: https://goo.gl/LydRZ9


On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Philip Northeast  wrote:


Met up with Brian and Margaret Walters for coffee on a wet Hobart morning.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/26902036185/in/dateposted-public/






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Re: Hobart PDML-meet

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, May 11, 2016, at 03:17 AM, John wrote:
> They did sometimes (frequently, at least once per episode) miss the
> obvious and got all wrapped up with tangential issues.

Sounds a bit like many threads on PDML...


Cheers

Brian


> 
> On 5/10/2016 10:07 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
> >
> > I found it a great source of comic relief regarding not only car
> > mechanical issues but also with some of the driver's questions.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >> From: Larry Colen  Subject: Re: Hobart PDML-meet
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Nice photo! You look like "Click and Clack" brothers.
> >>
> >> Actually, that's Click and Clack, the Tappet brothers.
> >>
> >> I will grant that they know a lot more about car repairs than I do,
> >> as does anyone who has run a shop, but being a motorhead, I found
> >> their show annoying beyond belief.
> >>
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Re: Mystery geometry

[Paul]

Is that the metal attachment between the strap and the camera?

-p

On 5/11/2016 12:13 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Just looking through the Adorama web description of the backordered K-1. Does 
anybody know what a Triangular Ring is? Is this like a circular triangle? Said 
triangular ring was apparently to have been in my K-1 package...

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Re: Hobart PDML-meet

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On Wed, May 11, 2016, at 01:04 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> 
> 
> I was slow to realize the obvious alternative title to the photo,
> but it caught up with me this morning:
> "Tasmanian devils" :-)
> 
> And seeing Brian's and Henk's photos got me wanting to visit that 
> "far-far-away" Island.


You'll enjoy it but if the wind and rain that we're getting is typical
of this time of year, perhaps early autumn or spring might be more
enjoyable.

(snow on Mt Wellington this morning - and winter is still weeks away!) 

I like 'Tasmanian Devils' as a title, or, to be more authentic Oz lingo
- 'Tassie Devils". Obviously I've never heard of the Click & Clack
brothers.


Cheers

Brian
(from windy Bruny Island)



> 
> On Mon, 9 May 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> 
> >
> > Nice photo!
> > You look like "Click and Clack" brothers.
> >
> > Igor
> >
> > PS. The reference is to a very popular US public radio show: 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Ray_Magliozzi
> > PPS. While the main portion of that reference is based on the obvious 
> > phrase 
> > reference, the relation in the photo is somewhat similar to that in their 
> > images: https://goo.gl/LydRZ9
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Philip Northeast  wrote:
> >
> >> Met up with Brian and Margaret Walters for coffee on a wet Hobart morning.
> >> 
> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/27281712@N08/26902036185/in/dateposted-public/
> >> 
> >> 
> >
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Mystery geometry

[Stan Halpin]

Just looking through the Adorama web description of the backordered K-1. Does 
anybody know what a Triangular Ring is? Is this like a circular triangle? Said 
triangular ring was apparently to have been in my K-1 package...

stan

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RE: Camera bags.

[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

> If it's worth doing, it is worth overdoing:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6JU2UO/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944
> 687742_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-
> 1_rd_t=201_rd_i=B00AFP5FM8_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER_rd_r=15B15DMZ
> 1X68R2Q80SV6

Ah! Another product from the zombie apocalypse range.

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Re: PESO -- Little Blue Heron

[Ken Waller]

Nice composition !

Hang in there Paul.


-Original Message-
>From: "P.J. Alling" 
>Subject: PESO -- Little Blue Heron
>
>I haven't been hanging out much lately. Infirmities, both mine and my 
>dog's have been taking up quite a bit of my available time.
>
>I felt up to taking a light kit to the local wildlife preserve today, 
>and what could be lighter than a 500mm Mirror Telephoto, with which I 
>captured this.
>
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue.html
>
>Which appears to be a, very lost, Little Blue Heron, well outside his 
>usual range.
>
>I remember reporting to the list that this freebee lens, to me at least, 
>seemed to be pretty damned sharp, with the caveat, that it could 
>actually be focused.  I took about 30 shots of this guy before he 
>decided to fly away, and this is the only one that the damned green 
>focus confirmation spot was even close with.  I really need a decent 
>split image RF screen to use with the K-5II, unfortunately Katzeye has 
>finished orders for their last run.
>
>Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0
>
>As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO -- Little Blue Heron II

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great image.  The bird stands out from the background in an almost 3D fashion.

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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:02 PM, P.J. Alling
 wrote:
> One more of the Little Blue Heron, maybe more tomorrow.  I was able to make
> this at least look sharp, the actual plane of focus appears to be at the
> grass shoot just aft of his tale.  The problem of course is that getting the
> bird sharp enough, also accentuates the doughnut Bokeh.  Oh well it still
> looks better than I thought it would.
>
> Still need a good manual focusing screen though.  I wonder how the Nikon K-3
> screen handles f8 lenses, focusing screens dot com sells one cut for the
> K-5/K-3.
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue2.html
>
> Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0
>
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PESO -- Little Blue Heron II

[P.J. Alling]

One more of the Little Blue Heron, maybe more tomorrow.  I was able to 
make this at least look sharp, the actual plane of focus appears to be 
at the grass shoot just aft of his tale.  The problem of course is that 
getting the bird sharp enough, also accentuates the doughnut Bokeh.  Oh 
well it still looks better than I thought it would.


Still need a good manual focusing screen though.  I wonder how the Nikon 
K-3 screen handles f8 lenses, focusing screens dot com sells one cut for 
the K-5/K-3.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue2.html

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0

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Re: Does Pentax make the new D-FA 28-105 zoom?

[Darren Addy]

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe so. Early shots look very good.
>>
>>
>> I disagree.
>
>
> Which portion do you disagree with?

That the early shots look good.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/hd-pentax-d-fa-28-105mm-f35-56-ed-dc-wr.html
The sharpness of the dog photos is less than very good, IMHO.
These images look pretty good:
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/hd-pentax-d-fa-28-105mm-f-3-5-5-6-ed-dc-wr-sample-photos-29281

On the K-1 it looks downright horrible in the corners:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ef81/26829100345/sizes/o/



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Re: PESO -- Little Blue Heron

[Paul Stenquist]

Damn. "A good look..."

Paul via phone

> On May 10, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Nice detail. A good luck at a handsome critter.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>>> On May 10, 2016, at 10:04 PM, P.J. Alling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:58 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>> I like it too - nice close-up, nice birdy, nice bokeh
>>> 
>>> ... sorry to hear you and your best friends are not in fine shape.. take 
>>> care
>>> 
>>> ann
>> 
>> The dog seems to be in better shape right now than I am.  Four weeks ago I 
>> was afraid he was going to die.  Now I'm afraid that keeping up with him is 
>> going to finish me off.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5/10/2016 9:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Like!
 
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 10, 2016, at 5:46 PM, P.J. Alling  
> wrote:
> 
> I haven't been hanging out much lately. Infirmities, both mine and my 
> dog's have been taking up quite a bit of my available time.
> 
> I felt up to taking a light kit to the local wildlife preserve today, and 
> what could be lighter than a 500mm Mirror Telephoto, with which I 
> captured this.
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue.html
>  
> 
> Which appears to be a, very lost, Little Blue Heron, well outside his 
> usual range.
> 
> I remember reporting to the list that this freebee lens, to me at least, 
> seemed to be pretty damned sharp, with the caveat, that it could actually 
> be focused.  I took about 30 shots of this guy before he decided to fly 
> away, and this is the only one that the damned green focus confirmation 
> spot was even close with.  I really need a decent split image RF screen 
> to use with the K-5II, unfortunately Katzeye has finished orders for 
> their last run.
> 
> Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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Re: PESO -- Little Blue Heron

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice detail. A good luck at a handsome critter.

Paul via phone

> On May 10, 2016, at 10:04 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/10/2016 9:58 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> I like it too - nice close-up, nice birdy, nice bokeh
>> 
>> ... sorry to hear you and your best friends are not in fine shape.. take care
>> 
>> ann
> 
> The dog seems to be in better shape right now than I am.  Four weeks ago I 
> was afraid he was going to die.  Now I'm afraid that keeping up with him is 
> going to finish me off.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/10/2016 9:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> Like!
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 10, 2016, at 5:46 PM, P.J. Alling  
 wrote:
 
 I haven't been hanging out much lately. Infirmities, both mine and my 
 dog's have been taking up quite a bit of my available time.
 
 I felt up to taking a light kit to the local wildlife preserve today, and 
 what could be lighter than a 500mm Mirror Telephoto, with which I captured 
 this.
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue.html
  
 
 Which appears to be a, very lost, Little Blue Heron, well outside his 
 usual range.
 
 I remember reporting to the list that this freebee lens, to me at least, 
 seemed to be pretty damned sharp, with the caveat, that it could actually 
 be focused.  I took about 30 shots of this guy before he decided to fly 
 away, and this is the only one that the damned green focus confirmation 
 spot was even close with.  I really need a decent split image RF screen to 
 use with the K-5II, unfortunately Katzeye has finished orders for their 
 last run.
 
 Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0
 
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Re: PESO -- Little Blue Heron

[P.J. Alling]

On 5/10/2016 9:58 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I like it too - nice close-up, nice birdy, nice bokeh

... sorry to hear you and your best friends are not in fine shape.. 
take care


ann


The dog seems to be in better shape right now than I am.  Four weeks ago 
I was afraid he was going to die.  Now I'm afraid that keeping up with 
him is going to finish me off.





On 5/10/2016 9:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Like!

J

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2016, at 5:46 PM, P.J. Alling 
 wrote:


I haven't been hanging out much lately. Infirmities, both mine and 
my dog's have been taking up quite a bit of my available time.


I felt up to taking a light kit to the local wildlife preserve 
today, and what could be lighter than a 500mm Mirror Telephoto, with 
which I captured this.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue.html 



Which appears to be a, very lost, Little Blue Heron, well outside 
his usual range.


I remember reporting to the list that this freebee lens, to me at 
least, seemed to be pretty damned sharp, with the caveat, that it 
could actually be focused.  I took about 30 shots of this guy before 
he decided to fly away, and this is the only one that the damned 
green focus confirmation spot was even close with.  I really need a 
decent split image RF screen to use with the K-5II, unfortunately 
Katzeye has finished orders for their last run.


Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0

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Re: GESO: Shooting Hoops with the K-1

[P.J. Alling]

It's listed as still current on the Ricoh imaging site.

On 5/10/2016 2:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

B still sells the FA 50/1.4. Could be NOS I suppose.

Paul via phone


On May 10, 2016, at 1:50 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

I don't know, that's why I asked. The only reason I can think of is I
don't think Pentax currently has a full-frame capable 50mm prime in
production.

... or maybe they do, and I don't know about it.

On 5/9/2016 11:53 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

What *IS* going to be the kit lens for the K-1?

Why wouldn't it still be a 50mm f ? lens like in the days of 35mm film?

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Re: PESO: Stonewall

[ann sanfedele]

That is true, Larry

ann


On 5/10/2016 3:53 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



ann sanfedele wrote:

I expected a shot on Christopher street ...


I suspect that is the location of the bar in the Village that I was 
also expecting a photo of.




Nice geology - I presume this is somewhere in Robert Frost land

ann


On 5/10/2016 12:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18230785

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Re: PESO -- Little Blue Heron

[ann sanfedele]

I like it too - nice close-up, nice birdy, nice bokeh

... sorry to hear you and your best friends are not in fine shape.. take 
care


ann


On 5/10/2016 9:00 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Like!

J

Sent from my iPhone


On May 10, 2016, at 5:46 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

I haven't been hanging out much lately. Infirmities, both mine and my dog's 
have been taking up quite a bit of my available time.

I felt up to taking a light kit to the local wildlife preserve today, and what 
could be lighter than a 500mm Mirror Telephoto, with which I captured this.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue.html

Which appears to be a, very lost, Little Blue Heron, well outside his usual 
range.

I remember reporting to the list that this freebee lens, to me at least, seemed 
to be pretty damned sharp, with the caveat, that it could actually be focused.  
I took about 30 shots of this guy before he decided to fly away, and this is 
the only one that the damned green focus confirmation spot was even close with. 
 I really need a decent split image RF screen to use with the K-5II, 
unfortunately Katzeye has finished orders for their last run.

Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0

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Re: K-1 plus Grip

[Paul Stenquist]

That would be a “Vivitar lens hood,” but auto correct doesn’t like that name.

> On May 10, 2016, at 9:38 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I’ve used a battery grip with all my Pentax DSLRs going right back to the 
> *istD. This is the best one yet. It really provides a great handle and just 
> fits my paw perfectly. The camera is chunky but not really very big, and I 
> find it’s not enough to hang onto without the grip, particularly when using 
> big lenses handheld. Pictured here with the A 50/1.2, it makes a pretty 
> picture. In truth, when I shoot with this, I screw a metal Visitor lens hood 
> into the A 50, but it kind of spoils the picture :-).
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18231123=lg
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K-1 plus Grip

[Paul Stenquist]

I’ve used a battery grip with all my Pentax DSLRs going right back to the 
*istD. This is the best one yet. It really provides a great handle and just 
fits my paw perfectly. The camera is chunky but not really very big, and I find 
it’s not enough to hang onto without the grip, particularly when using big 
lenses handheld. Pictured here with the A 50/1.2, it makes a pretty picture. In 
truth, when I shoot with this, I screw a metal Visitor lens hood into the A 50, 
but it kind of spoils the picture :-).

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18231123=lg

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Re: PESO - Alpine Penny-cress

[Rick Womer]

Depends.

If your goal was a sharp, detailed photo, it flunks.

However, as an interesting, impressionistic photo, it gets an A.

Rick

On May 8, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Jostein wrote:

> http://www.alunfoto.no/innhold/alpine-penny-cress/lightbox/
> 
> K-5, with a Rodenstock Heligon 100mm f/1.6 at full opening.
> 
> It's an X-ray lens, adapted to K-mount with gaffa tape and an extension tube 
> (kinda), making it a fixed-focus macro lens.
> 
> C appreciated. This is very much an experiment.
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Re: PESO -- Little Blue Heron

[Jack Davis]

Like!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2016, at 5:46 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I haven't been hanging out much lately. Infirmities, both mine and my dog's 
> have been taking up quite a bit of my available time.
> 
> I felt up to taking a light kit to the local wildlife preserve today, and 
> what could be lighter than a 500mm Mirror Telephoto, with which I captured 
> this.
> 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue.html
> 
> Which appears to be a, very lost, Little Blue Heron, well outside his usual 
> range.
> 
> I remember reporting to the list that this freebee lens, to me at least, 
> seemed to be pretty damned sharp, with the caveat, that it could actually be 
> focused.  I took about 30 shots of this guy before he decided to fly away, 
> and this is the only one that the damned green focus confirmation spot was 
> even close with.  I really need a decent split image RF screen to use with 
> the K-5II, unfortunately Katzeye has finished orders for their last run.
> 
> Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0
> 
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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PESO -- Little Blue Heron

[P.J. Alling]

I haven't been hanging out much lately. Infirmities, both mine and my 
dog's have been taking up quite a bit of my available time.


I felt up to taking a light kit to the local wildlife preserve today, 
and what could be lighter than a 500mm Mirror Telephoto, with which I 
captured this.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20littleblue.html

Which appears to be a, very lost, Little Blue Heron, well outside his 
usual range.


I remember reporting to the list that this freebee lens, to me at least, 
seemed to be pretty damned sharp, with the caveat, that it could 
actually be focused.  I took about 30 shots of this guy before he 
decided to fly away, and this is the only one that the damned green 
focus confirmation spot was even close with.  I really need a decent 
split image RF screen to use with the K-5II, unfortunately Katzeye has 
finished orders for their last run.


Equipment: Pentax K-5II w/Kalimar MC 500mm Mirror f8.0

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Re: K-1 Macro comparison, pixel shit etc

[Larry Colen]

Stanley Halpin wrote:

Larry wondered about using such-and-such a lens. Bob Sullivan wondered about 
comparison to the 645Z. Mark wondered about using pixel-shift in APS-C mode. So 
I posted a couple of shots that really didn’t address the issues. Forget those, 
they have been deleted.


Awesome!  Thanks! As expected, at this resolution they look great, I 
haven't had the chance to download them yet.


For those of us who are both pixel peepers and lazy (I can't be the only 
one) any chance of also posting a small 1500 pixel wide crop out of the 
middle of each?





Set-up:

K-3 with D FA 100/2.8 macro @ f/8

vs.

   K-1 with same lens in “natural” mode

vs.

  K-1, same lens, the camera now in pixel-shift mode

vs.

 K-1, same lens, the camera now in APS-C mode

vs.

K-1, same lens, the camera still in APS-C mode, but now again with 
pixel-shift

vs.

   645Z with FA 120/4 macro @ f/8

The images are @ http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p1033969621/h79536f21#h79536f21 
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Re: Does Pentax make the new D-FA 28-105 zoom?

[Larry Colen]

Darren Addy wrote:

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

I believe so. Early shots look very good.


I disagree.


Which portion do you disagree with?






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Re: Does Pentax make the new D-FA 28-105 zoom?

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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> I believe so. Early shots look very good.

I disagree.

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Re: Does Pentax make the new D-FA 28-105 zoom?

[Zos Xavius]

I believe so. Early shots look very good.
On May 10, 2016 6:27 PM, "Mark Roberts"  wrote:

> That non-standard (for Pentax) 62mm filter size suggests not, but I
> haven't heard one way or the other.
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K-1 Macro comparison, pixel shit etc

[Stanley Halpin]

Larry wondered about using such-and-such a lens. Bob Sullivan wondered about 
comparison to the 645Z. Mark wondered about using pixel-shift in APS-C mode. So 
I posted a couple of shots that really didn’t address the issues. Forget those, 
they have been deleted.

Set-up:

K-3 with D FA 100/2.8 macro @ f/8

vs.

  K-1 with same lens in “natural” mode

vs.

 K-1, same lens, the camera now in pixel-shift mode

vs.

K-1, same lens, the camera now in APS-C mode

vs.

   K-1, same lens, the camera still in APS-C mode, but now again with 
pixel-shift

vs.

  645Z with FA 120/4 macro @ f/8

The images are @ http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p1033969621/h79536f21#h79536f21 
and onward.

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Re: PESO Some spring blooms

[Paul]

Thanks, Ann, for your comment - and Larry, too - and all who took a look.

-p

On 5/9/2016 9:33 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I  think # 6 is my favorite...

I was about to pack up to go to the Brooklyn botnical garden today..
good thing I didnt, it's closed on Monday-

eager to see some of this stuff IRL


ann

On 5/8/2016 8:36 PM, Paul wrote:

A couple tulips and a bunch of apple blossoms.

http://www.studio1941.com/Spring%20Blooms/#

K-3 and Tamron 18-200 XR DiII

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Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!

[Ken Waller]

They probably use their fingers.

-Original Message-
>From: Larry Colen 
>Subject: Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!
>
>
>
>Ken Waller wrote:
>>> I had to post some pics of him for his adoring fans. ;-)
>>
>> You mean there's more than one ?
>
>That depends, if someone has multiple personality disorder do they count 
>as one, or multiple?
>
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Does Pentax make the new D-FA 28-105 zoom?

[Mark Roberts]

That non-standard (for Pentax) 62mm filter size suggests not, but I
haven't heard one way or the other.
 
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Re: Yes! The Lomography Daguerreotype Achromat 2.9/64 Art Lens has been successfully funded.

[Darren Addy]

Well, I hate to put a damper on things, but did they specifically say that
they got enough support to build the K-mount version?

Everything that I read said that if they didn't you would be given your
choice of one of the other mounts or a refund. As a whole, the project was
a go 4 hours after they started (fully funded way back on April 6th) so
that email is just updating the number of supporters they had when the
Kickstarter ended today. And obviously now they know how many pre-orders
they have so they can know what quantities of lenses, etc. to order.

I wasn't paying attention to see how many K-mount preorders had been made
before they shut that down. But if they AREN'T building the K-mount and you
want a refund, I would imagine you would want it sooner, rather than later.
So I'd recommend asking.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:19 PM, mike wilson 
wrote:

> > Great news!
> >
> > Thanks to you and 2,035 others, The Lomography Daguerreotype Achromat
> 2.9/64
> > Art Lens has been successfully funded. Your pledge has been charged,
> funds
> > will soon be transferred to the creator, and they’ll begin working on
> their
> > project.
>
> Very exciting.  More chiaroscuro than you can shake a full-frame body at.
> Just
> in time for Christmas, too.
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Re: Camera bags.

[Larry Colen]

John wrote:

At the time I'm reading this:

1 EUR = 9.33309 NOK or 1 USD = 8.20325 NOK

Their "Jude" model (NOK 2,299) looks like a bag I have.

http://www.fotobag.no/en/kelly-moore/jude.html

But I didn't pay $280 dollars for mine; more like $12 IIRC. It was in a
clearance bin at one of the local camera stores.


If it's worth doing, it is worth overdoing:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O6JU2UO/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_3?pf_rd_p=1944687742_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1_rd_t=201_rd_i=B00AFP5FM8_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER_rd_r=15B15DMZ1X68R2Q80SV6


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Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!

[Larry Colen]

Ken Waller wrote:

I had to post some pics of him for his adoring fans. ;-)


You mean there's more than one ?


That depends, if someone has multiple personality disorder do they count 
as one, or multiple?




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Re: GESO: Shooting Hoops with the K-1

[Larry Colen]

John Sessoms wrote:

I don't know, that's why I asked. The only reason I can think of is I
don't think Pentax currently has a full-frame capable 50mm prime in
production.

... or maybe they do, and I don't know about it.

On 5/9/2016 11:53 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

What *IS* going to be the kit lens for the K-1?


Why wouldn't it still be a 50mm f ? lens like in the days of 35mm film?


I think that by the end of the film era, the "generic kit lens" had 
become something along the lines of a 28-80 zoom.





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Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!

[Ken Waller]

I had to post some pics of him for his adoring fans. ;-)


You mean there's more than one ?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Nicole Jacque" 

Subject: Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!




On May 10, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
wrote:


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:


Full album is here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskwj1Bho 



They are all quite nice, but the image f the squirrel staring into the
lens is priceless.



Yes, that one is my favorite!  But I already PESO-ed that one earlier, 
before I’d gone through all the photos.



"Warning: There is a Larry sighting in this one!"

Not to worry.  I've had breakfast with Larry.  I can stomach the sight 
again.


I wasn’t worried.  I had to post some pics of him for his adoring fans. 
;-)




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Re: Ordering an annual

[Marco Alpert]

Me.

- Marco

On May 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Is there anyone in the South Bay / Santa Cruz area interested in sharing 
> shipping on ordering annuals?
> 
> Is there a working discount code these days?
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Re: K-1 Vignetting? Some surprises...

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> On May 10, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> I just did a quick look at the manual. E.g., the appendix on pp107ff which 
> talks about restrictions on combinations of special functions. When doing a 
> pixel shift you can’t bracket, use HDR, use any form of interval shooting, 
> mix scotch whisky with soda water, wash your dark and light clothes together, 
> etc. All reasonable and understandable restrictions. I see nothing that would 
> keep you from doing a pixel-shift while using APS-C mode.
> 
> Tomorrow I plan to try the pixel-shift, I’ll add an APS-C lens and an APS-C 
> mode into the equation…
> 
> stan
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> 
>> Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> 
>>> The open question is how good the K-1 is as a pseudo APS-C camera compared 
>>> with the K-5 or K-3. Is it as good or better even in this mode? [For values 
>>> of good/better which lie somewhere in a multidimensional space with 
>>> dimensions such as Resolution, Tonality, Resistance to noise at High ISO, 
>>> Dynamic Range, etc.]
>> 
>> Considering I've had my K-1 since last Thursday it's disgraceful that
>> I haven't been able to try shooting with it yet (or even read the
>> manual) so I'll have to ask this question: Is pixel-shift available in
>> crop (APS-C) mode? I know it's not useable in many situations but I'd
>> guess it yields higher effective resolution that one would normally
>> get from a crop-frame camera.
>> 
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That was a good question Mark. I did have something else I needed to do but oh 
well…

So I did two pixel-shift shots of a shelf on my bookcase. The first
(which is at http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p1033969621) was using the D FA 
100/2.8 macro @f/8, Full Frame. The second, next after the first in the 
gallery, was same lens from same spot with same settings exceptI I put it into 
APS-C mode. I should have done a third, just a straight shot without the 
pixel-shift. I’ll restore the setup and redo the series later. If you are 
visiting the gallery and find three bookcase shots rather than two, you got 
there after I made the update. Other comments will still apply.

No guarantee that I have achieved perfect focus nor that I have the camera 
exactly parallel to the bookcase. Ignore the darkness across the top of the 
frame - just a shadow cast by the shelf above.

Zero presets when importing to Lightroom, zero size/quality settings on export 
as jpg from Lightroom.

Download of the two (three) images from Zenfolio is enabled. Password is PDML. 
You could play with cropping the FF version(s) to the same size as the APS-C 
version, then pixel-peeping. Whatever. But the basic issue, can you pixel-shift 
in APS-C mode, is resolved: Yes, you can.

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Re: GESO: Old cars with a new camera.

[Ken Waller]

If it was original I sure wouldn't put on the wheels shoen !

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From: "John" 

Subject: Re: GESO: Old cars with a new camera.



On 5/9/2016 6:45 PM, Bill wrote:

On 5/9/2016 3:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

It appears to be a Jaguar XK 140.


Right you are. My clumsy fingers identified it as an XK 150

bill


Paul via phone


On May 9, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Gonz  wrote:

What's that black car, its a beauty. Kit also?



You can buy a "replica" of the XK 140, but I'm not sure it's available
as a kit. An original XK 140 should have wire wheels, but it could still 
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historical "kit lens" discount on package deals?

[Larry Colen]

I've been vaguely aware in the background that normally when you buy a 
camera body with lens it tends to be cheaper than buying them 
separately.  Since this is the first time since about 2007 that I've 
actually been interested in such, I haven't been paying much attention 
to how big that discount is.


While I'm really glad that the K-1 is selling so well (Pentax is 
doomed!), I'm personally disappointed that Ricoh is not offering the 
marketing incentive to buy it as a kit.  At this point I need to do the 
calculus of dividing how much money I might save by waiting by how long 
I expect that I'd have to wait for the deals to come out.


This is, of course, moot if nobody has any in stock.  B says out until 
July, Adorama claims to have a few in stock, as does Cameta.


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Re: Can someone report on the K-1 wifi?

[Bruce Walker]

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 5/9/2016 10:18 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> How well does tethering work?  What about file transfer?
>
> I did a little bit of tethering experimentation with my iPad yesterday. I
> didn't do any range testing, but it works well enough.
> There is a 200.00 piece of software that you can buy that allows real
> tethering to a computer. I haven't bothered as it isn't something I do.
> I expect Bruce Walker is using that software with his 645.

You might reasonably expect that, but nope. :)

Pentax supplies a free Lightroom image tethering plugin that works
over USB. I refuse to have anything to do with it because: (A) wires;
(B) if it glitches you lose the shot(s) [nothing is saved to the SD
card while in use]; (C) I'd have to have Lightroom running on
something in the studio. (I don't own a notebook computer.)

There is also a full-featured for-pay Pentax solution, and 3rd party
packages that supposedly work better than either of the Pentax
solutions, but I'm happy with my wireless solution, so haven't
bothered to test any of them.


I tether -- images only -- using a 3 year-old Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB card
in the 645 to send low res jpegs to my iPad Air. I have no control
over camera functions, but that's okay. I stick the iPad up on a light
stand for the creative team and myself to see so I can judge lighting
and the other folks can ooh and aah. :)

Even though I'm sending the lowest possible quality jpegs to the
Eye-Fi, it still can't keep up when the shooting gets rapid, so
sometimes it's more of a PITA than useful.

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Fwd: Yes! The Lomography Daguerreotype Achromat 2.9/64 Art Lens has been successfully funded.

[mike wilson]

> Great news!
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> Thanks to you and 2,035 others, The Lomography Daguerreotype Achromat 2.9/64
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Very exciting.  More chiaroscuro than you can shake a full-frame body at.  Just
in time for Christmas, too.

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Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!

[Igor PDML-StR]

I was going to say that he doesn't bite...
But then, I recalled that I evidenced him biting sushi and Thai food. :-)
But I am guessing that the squirrel is probably safe. ;-)

Cheers,

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K-1 Quick Video Review

[Steve Cottrell]

After I'd stopped laughing at the presenter, I watched this video again
(an intro the the K-1)



Waiting for Kai over at Digital Rev to have a go !!


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Re: Lightroom mistakes

[Bob W-PDML]

> On 10 May 2016, at 20:13, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>>> A series of tutorials showing how to screw up your photos in lightroom.
>>> http://petapixel.com/2016/05/09/10-common-lightroom-mistakes-fix-avoid/
>> 
>> Sorry, Larry, but I do not appreciate the presentation (even though there 
>> is some reasonable rational behind it.):
>> Too much fluff/hype and very little essence.
>> All of that could be summarized in one sentence:
>> "Do not OVERDO!"  or "Use your head, you stupid!".
> 
> Ten videos of 4-10 minutes each for that stuff? It could easily have
> been covered in one 5-minute video. This is a prime example of the
> misuse of video on the web: Doing it because it's easy to do (just use
> screen capture software for the video and real-time narration) rather
> than because it's the best way of delivering the message. I see tons
> of things like that that are only in video form because those
> responsible are too fscking lazy to *write* (as provide a few screen
> shots).
> 

Back in the Renaissance we used to send minstrels strolling round Europe 
singing at painters telling them what not to do with oil paint. How we laughed 
when that bloke from Vinci overdid his sfumato gimmick! Every bloody time, 
especially on that soppy cow, Gherardini's missus. 

And that Brunelleschi, would he draw a proper picture with everything piled on 
top of everything else? Would he fuck! It was all perspective, perspective, 
perspective. Knobhead. I bet he got his idea for the dome when saw himself in a 
mirror.

That Michelangelo though, he knew what he was doing. Big muscly blokes with 
tits, that's what a proper painting's about, I can tell you. None of that poncy 
chiaroscuro crap from him.

Cheers!
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Ordering an annual

[Larry Colen]

Is there anyone in the South Bay / Santa Cruz area interested in sharing 
shipping on ordering annuals?


Is there a working discount code these days?


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Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!

[Nicole Jacque]

> On May 10, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
>> 
>> Full album is here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskwj1Bho 
>> 
> 
> They are all quite nice, but the image f the squirrel staring into the
> lens is priceless.
> 

Yes, that one is my favorite!  But I already PESO-ed that one earlier, before 
I’d gone through all the photos.

> "Warning: There is a Larry sighting in this one!"
> 
> Not to worry.  I've had breakfast with Larry.  I can stomach the sight again.

I wasn’t worried.  I had to post some pics of him for his adoring fans. ;-)

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Re: html ping 2

[Larry Colen]

Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Boris,

IIRC, you have been using Aquamail, haven't you?
(I've found it after seeing it in the signature from you... Or, was it
someone else here?)
In that case, that's the best app for Android I've seen, with great
support and smart developer.


Interesting, I've been using K-9.  At some point, I'll have to do a 
comparison.




Igor


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Re: PESO: Stonewall

[Larry Colen]

ann sanfedele wrote:

I expected a shot on Christopher street ...


I suspect that is the location of the bar in the Village that I was also 
expecting a photo of.




Nice geology - I presume this is somewhere in Robert Frost land

ann


On 5/10/2016 12:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18230785

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Re: Lightroom mistakes

[Larry Colen]

Mark Roberts wrote:

Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Larry Colen wrote:


A series of tutorials showing how to screw up your photos in lightroom.
http://petapixel.com/2016/05/09/10-common-lightroom-mistakes-fix-avoid/

Sorry, Larry, but I do not appreciate the presentation (even though there
is some reasonable rational behind it.):
Too much fluff/hype and very little essence.
All of that could be summarized in one sentence:
"Do not OVERDO!"  or "Use your head, you stupid!".


Ten videos of 4-10 minutes each for that stuff? It could easily have
been covered in one 5-minute video. This is a prime example of the
misuse of video on the web: Doing it because it's easy to do (just use
screen capture software for the video and real-time narration) rather
than because it's the best way of delivering the message. I see tons
of things like that that are only in video form because those
responsible are too fscking lazy to *write* (as provide a few screen
shots).


I will spare the list my full on rant about the lack of written 
documentation on Lightroom.  I do not want to watch five minutes of 
video when I could scan a written page in 15 seconds, or less, to find 
the thing I'm looking for.  Adobe won't even publish the scripts for 
their online tutorials.


I did pick up a couple of handy items from watching the video, like 
using the option key when using the sliders to see clipping points. 
Unfortunately, with everything being on video and my hating video, most 
of what I know about lightroom is self taught/discovered, so I'm missing 
a lot of handy little things because I never discovered them.


Watching a couple of them, the headlines may scream "don't ever do this" 
but what he actually says is to be aware of what you are doing and when, 
and if you over do it, chances are that it'll suck.







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Re: PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Nicole Jacque  wrote:
>
> Full album is here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskwj1Bho 
> 

They are all quite nice, but the image f the squirrel staring into the
lens is priceless.

"Warning: There is a Larry sighting in this one!"

Not to worry.  I've had breakfast with Larry.  I can stomach the sight again.

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Re: PESO: Stonewall

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Dan, perhaps you should have said it was built by appies!

so, what are "appies"?

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Re: K1 question

[Stanley Halpin]

> On May 10, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> Stan,
> I'm curious about how you would compare the K-1 and 645.
> I can't help but imagine that the controls are quite similar.
> The levels in the viewfinder keep giving me that impression.
> Regards,  Bob S.

1. Layout, interface, etc. The 645Z has a clear strong resemblance to the K-3 
in many respects, with form details that harken back to the original 645’s. 
(E.g., tripod mounts on both bottom and on left side, making it easy to switch 
from horizontal to vertical and no need for an L-bracket.) (I also have 
appreciated that the top-deck LCD is tilted, reminiscent of the MZ-S. ) They 
took advantage of the empty space on the body’s upper left to add a few 
function buttons. The AF button on the K-3 and K-1 are in relatively the same 
position, the AF button on the Zis relatively more like on the K-5 bodies.
The K-1 is clearly a member of the same family with many characteristics that 
could alsohave been derived from the K-3. So they are alike in that they have a 
similar progenitor. The biggest difference on the K-1 is the obvious Function 
Dial or Smart Function dial which, with the top-deck 3rd control dial pretty 
much crowd the LCD off the top.  
2. Usability. Both are “large” and “heavy”; in part because both are solidly 
built. 
3. Quality of output. I am hoping for less breezy conditions soon - I want to 
do a macro test with the three bodies,m both single shot and stacking. And with 
pixel-shift on the K-1. I’ll let you know.

stan

> 
> Can you hear me now?
> 
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:56 PM, Stanley Halpin
>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 5/9/2016 8:31 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
 
> On May 9, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 5/9/2016 3:53 PM, Gonz wrote:
>> I had a question too.  Does the K-1 let you zoom in on the display
>> when you have live view?  This was there on the K-20, and then it
>> disappeared when I got my K-5.  Great feature, as it let you do
>> critical focus on still subjects. Esp if you are half blind like me
>> trying to look through those tiny APS-c viewfinders.
> 
> No, but you do have focus peaking, which to my mind is just as good.
> 
> bill
> 
 Yes, you can. While in live view, hit the OK button, then zoom in by 
 turning the rear control dial. Same as on the K-3.
 
 stan
 
>>> Well how about that. I owe you a beer.
>>> 
>> 
>> OK, if you insist.
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Re: PESO: Stonewall

[Alan C]

Dan, perhaps you should have said it was built by appies! (even if they did 
have some pro advice). It struck me that they made little attempt to line up 
the "grain" on the large rocks they had used. The arrangement of rocks is 
rather haphazard.


"Actually, it was the "rough hewn" nature of the work and the randomness of 
the stones in size, type,texture and orientation, that caught my eye" - mine 
too!


Your photography, on the other hand, is very good & multi-faceted.

Alan C

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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Are you trying to illustrate the poor workmanship?


Hey, I never claimed to be a competent photographer, just a old dude
having fun with a .

This stone wall is part of Bartlett Tower on the Dartmouth Campus.  It
is 71 feet high, and was built by college students, over a period of
about a decade, with occasional help from local New England masons.
It has stood for more than 12 years, so it is sturdy, if inartistic.

Actually, it was the "rough hewn" nature of the work and the
randomness of the stones in size, type,texture and orientation, that
caught my eye
.  It fits into the New England woods in which it is
located quite well.

YMMV.

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PESO: You, kid, get off my lawn!

[Nicole Jacque]

Ok, I’m about half-way through with the photos from my trip.  These are from 
the elephant seal rookery along the coast on Hwy 1.  In addition to the seals, 
it was also populated by some very curious and friendly squirrels and crows.  

I don’t know how old either of these seals are, but the bigger one barked at 
the smaller one:   https://flic.kr/p/G7WQ1Q
who proceeded to rather quickly (well, quickly for a seal on land) galumph off: 
 https://flic.kr/p/G7WQTG 

Full album is here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskwj1Bho 
Warning: There is a Larry sighting in this one!
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Re: Bob Sullivan?

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

Class year at MIT??

Otis  '64


On 5/10/2016 10:30 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

I don't know where I went wrong, but it wasn't a problem before.
I've been reading some emails from MIT classmates.
Maybe they got me into this situation.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Gonz  wrote:

He's prolly having the same problem with posting that I do. You have
to make sure that you select "Plain Text" from the drop down menu
before composing your email.


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:

I emailed Bob and replied that he is alive and "mostly" well.

He says he's been having some trouble getting gmail to play nicely
with the list, so a few attempts at posting have been in vain.

Rick
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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

Bob last submitted to February PUG:
http://pug.komkon.org/16feb/slides/BS-8IMGP3018_ed-1.html
But his last posting to the list is dated October 27, 2015.

Ghm...


Mon May 9 16:20:43 EDT 2016 Larry Colen wrote:

Interesting, I also recently realized that we hadn't heard from him in a
while.

On May 9, 2016 1:06:37 PM PDT, Mark Roberts 
wrote:

Rick Womer wrote:


Has anyone heard from him?

Usually he's an enthusiastic early adopter, and the K-1 has been out a
few days without a peep.


I was wondering the same thing. This is the first year he hasn't sent
in a photo for the book.



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Re: Lightroom mistakes

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Igor PDML-StR wrote:

>
>Larry Colen wrote:
>
>> A series of tutorials showing how to screw up your photos in lightroom.
>> http://petapixel.com/2016/05/09/10-common-lightroom-mistakes-fix-avoid/
>
>Sorry, Larry, but I do not appreciate the presentation (even though there 
>is some reasonable rational behind it.):
>Too much fluff/hype and very little essence.
>All of that could be summarized in one sentence:
>"Do not OVERDO!"  or "Use your head, you stupid!".

Ten videos of 4-10 minutes each for that stuff? It could easily have
been covered in one 5-minute video. This is a prime example of the
misuse of video on the web: Doing it because it's easy to do (just use
screen capture software for the video and real-time narration) rather
than because it's the best way of delivering the message. I see tons
of things like that that are only in video form because those
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Re: html ping 2

[Igor PDML-StR]

Boris,

IIRC, you have been using Aquamail, haven't you?
(I've found it after seeing it in the signature from you... Or, 
was it someone else here?)
In that case, that's the best app for Android I've seen, with great 
support and smart developer.


Igor


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Re: K-1 Vignetting? Some surprises...

[Stanley Halpin]

I just did a quick look at the manual. E.g., the appendix on pp107ff which 
talks about restrictions on combinations of special functions. When doing a 
pixel shift you can’t bracket, use HDR, use any form of interval shooting, mix 
scotch whisky with soda water, wash your dark and light clothes together, etc. 
All reasonable and understandable restrictions. I see nothing that would keep 
you from doing a pixel-shift while using APS-C mode.

Tomorrow I plan to try the pixel-shift, I’ll add an APS-C lens and an APS-C 
mode into the equation…

stan
 

> On May 10, 2016, at 2:49 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Stanley Halpin wrote:
> 
>> The open question is how good the K-1 is as a pseudo APS-C camera compared 
>> with the K-5 or K-3. Is it as good or better even in this mode? [For values 
>> of good/better which lie somewhere in a multidimensional space with 
>> dimensions such as Resolution, Tonality, Resistance to noise at High ISO, 
>> Dynamic Range, etc.]
> 
> Considering I've had my K-1 since last Thursday it's disgraceful that
> I haven't been able to try shooting with it yet (or even read the
> manual) so I'll have to ask this question: Is pixel-shift available in
> crop (APS-C) mode? I know it's not useable in many situations but I'd
> guess it yields higher effective resolution that one would normally
> get from a crop-frame camera.
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Re: Lightroom mistakes

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry Colen wrote:


A series of tutorials showing how to screw up your photos in lightroom.
http://petapixel.com/2016/05/09/10-common-lightroom-mistakes-fix-avoid/


Sorry, Larry, but I do not appreciate the presentation (even though there 
is some reasonable rational behind it.):

Too much fluff/hype and very little essence.
All of that could be summarized in one sentence:
"Do not OVERDO!"  or "Use your head, you stupid!".

And Petapixel overhypes it on top of that: "10 Things NOT TO DO in LR".

Let me provide some examples:

"You should never ever use the selective color in Lightroom".

I dislike when people give these type of "absolute" advice that postulates 
something without providing any type of reasoning WHY that shouldn't be 
done (he never says that in that video), nor allowing any possibilities 
that these tools can be used properly and then they are appropriate.
(Well, he mumbles something like "if it took you very short time to do it, 
it must be bad".)



Essentially, the guy is showing bad use of tools and says: don't use these 
tools at all, because I've shown how badly one can [mis]use them.

It would have worked better if these tips were called:
"How NOT to use tools in LR".
And that could be applied the same way to ANY slider: Exposure, Shadows, 
highlights, sharpening, ... Do not pull them to far.


And he misleads you.
E.g. in the "clarity" video:
"Why the bottom of the building is lighter?.."
Well, because it was light before you touched that "Clarity" slider.
Yes you've effectively enhanced the contrast, and that made that 
(pre-existing!) difference stronger. But don't tell me that it appears 
just because of the "clarity slider".


I completely agree with Malcolm:

Malcolm Smith Tue, 10 May 2016 11:27:42 -0700 wrote:


Personally, I am in no need of a tutorial on how to screw up photos in
Lightroom, as I've mastered the technique.



Cheers,

Igor

PS. Larry, just in case, - the irritation that might be seen in my 
message is not targeting you, but rather that guy in the video, and 
petapixel.




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Re: PESO 金閣寺 Golden Pavilion

[Eric Featherstone]

Thanks, Ann!

On 10 May 2016 at 14:03, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> That's just lovely, Eric
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 5/9/2016 11:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> I was there last May, and it is a scenic and soothing site (and sight).
>>
>> You have captured the beauty and serenity of the Golden Pavilion very
>> well.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Eric Featherstone
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> A (very) occasional PESO:
>>>
>>> In January I went to Japan, primarily for skiing, but spent the first
>>> few days in Tokyo with an overnight trip to Kyoto before following my
>>> bags north to Hokkaido. It's not my first time in Japan, but it is the
>>> first time I've been there in winter.
>>>
>>> This is the Golden Pavilion, part of a temple complex dating back to
>>> the late 1300's on the northern edge of Kyoto.
>>> https://flic.kr/p/De8Yw2
>>> or
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18230621=lg
>>> Pentax K-x, Tamron AF 17-50mm F2.8 XR Di-II LD
>>> f/5.6 @ 1/60 ISO320
>>>
>>> Comments welcome.
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Re: GESO: Shooting Hoops with the K-1

[Ken Waller]

I was thinking more generically as to what was presented as normal view in the 
35mm film days - not specifically Pentax.


-Original Message-
>From: John Sessoms 
>Subject: Re: GESO: Shooting Hoops with the K-1
>
>I don't know, that's why I asked. The only reason I can think of is I
>don't think Pentax currently has a full-frame capable 50mm prime in
>production.
>
>... or maybe they do, and I don't know about it.
>
>On 5/9/2016 11:53 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> What *IS* going to be the kit lens for the K-1?
>>
>> Why wouldn't it still be a 50mm f ? lens like in the days of 35mm film?
>>
>> Kenneth Waller


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Re: K-1 Vignetting? Some surprises...

[Mark Roberts]

Stanley Halpin wrote:

>The open question is how good the K-1 is as a pseudo APS-C camera compared 
>with the K-5 or K-3. Is it as good or better even in this mode? [For values of 
>good/better which lie somewhere in a multidimensional space with dimensions 
>such as Resolution, Tonality, Resistance to noise at High ISO, Dynamic Range, 
>etc.]

Considering I've had my K-1 since last Thursday it's disgraceful that
I haven't been able to try shooting with it yet (or even read the
manual) so I'll have to ask this question: Is pixel-shift available in
crop (APS-C) mode? I know it's not useable in many situations but I'd
guess it yields higher effective resolution that one would normally
get from a crop-frame camera.
 
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Re: K-1 Vignetting? Some surprises...

[Larry Colen]

Stanley Halpin wrote:


So, a 24-70 on FF and one on APS and switching between the two might work.  :-)


An alternate strategy to think about:
As Bill mentioned, you have an option on the K-1 to shoot full frame, 
APS-C crop, or Auto. The new little mode dial makes it easy to switch. So get 
the K-1, get the D FA 24-70/2.8. Use it full frame. Except when you force it to 
crop mode, and then you have a 42-105…

The open question is how good the K-1 is as a pseudo APS-C camera compared with 
the K-5 or K-3. Is it as good or better even in this mode? [For values of 
good/better which lie somewhere in a multidimensional space with dimensions 
such as Resolution, Tonality, Resistance to noise at High ISO, Dynamic Range, 
etc.]
stan


The K-1 should have the same resolution at APS as the K-5, and a much 
newer sensor, so I'd expect it to be slightly better.  The one downside 
might be framerate.  Has anyone measured to see if framerate in APS is 
any faster than in FF?


Alternately, I just shoot FF with the 24-70 (or 28-75), and worry less 
about people going out of frame when they get thrown.


I do expect that one advantage of the K-5 is that it is probably a bit 
quieter than the K-1.


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Re: Hobart PDML-meet

[Igor PDML-StR]

Yep. They had a bunch of other goodies on that list.
Some were said every time, others were used occasionally/rotated:
http://www.cartalk.com/content/staff-credits

For some of those, the pun is really in the way they are written 
(especially after you've heard them on radio first). E.g.

Second Shift Meteorologist  Claudio Vernight
Russian Chauffeur   Picov Andropov


BTW, the full version of the one you quoted is:
Chief Legal Counsel Hugh Louis Dewey of Dewey, Cheetham & Howe

Cheers,

Igor

PS. Good to see you back on the list!


Bob Sullivan Tue, 10 May 2016 08:18:12 -0700 wrote:

I liked their legal representation.  The law firm was
'Dewey, Cheatem, and How'
Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: Lightroom mistakes

[Malcolm Smith]

Larry Colen wrote:

> A series of tutorials showing how to screw up your photos in lightroom.
> http://petapixel.com/2016/05/09/10-common-lightroom-mistakes-fix-avoid/

I've seen some of these mistakes win competitions locally Larry. There were
some dreadful HDR photos used on website to promote Yorkshire (I think Bob W
pointed this out).

Personally, I am in no need of a tutorial on how to screw up photos in
Lightroom, as I've mastered the technique.

Malcolm


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Re: K-1 Vignetting? Some surprises...

[Stanley Halpin]

> On May 10, 2016, at 1:20 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>> On May 9, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Stanley Halpin wrote:
> On May 9, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen   wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Stanley Halpin wrote:
>> In sum, the 35/2.8, 40/2.8, and 55/1.4 all seem to have value when used 
>> with the K-1, without too much compromise.
 And the evidence…
 
 A small gallery here. I didn’t keep these full size as the vignetting at 
 question is visible, or not, even at reduced image size.
 
 The first image is from the 24/2.0 [Yes Larry, NOT 1.4] to show the scene. 
 Then one or more shots from the DA 15mm, 35mm macro, 40mm, and 55mm and 
 one from the 50-135/2.8.
>>> I was wondering if it might be a Samyang.
>>> 
 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p1033969621
>>> Thanks a bunch.  At first I thought that they were all vignetting down the 
>>> left side, then I realized that was a tree trunk.
>> 
>> Sorry about that. Not a good setup. After initial setup (with a longer lens) 
>> I never looked through the viewfinder. Just swapped lenses, did a sequence 
>> of shots, repeat for i = 1 to p where p=# of lenses.
>> But even with the dark tree trunk you can still get a sense of the vignette 
>> effect (or not).
>>> I'm bummed about the 50-135, that is a range I need in FF for photographing 
>>> tests at my dojo.  I guess I'll just use the 28-75 in crop mode for now.
>> 
>> Which part of the 50-135 range are you actually using? And are you just 
>> thinking about focal length? Or equivalent field of view? My guess would be 
>> that on the K-1 the FOV you want would put you the long end of the 50-135 
>> and so it might work out alright…
> 
> On APS, I use the 28-75, and would appreciate both wider and longer, so that 
> would be 42-105 on FF.  That is why I thought that 50-135 would be a nice 
> range on FF.  Wider is more important than longer, because I can crop.
> 
> So, a 24-70 on FF and one on APS and switching between the two might work.  
> :-)

An alternate strategy to think about:
As Bill mentioned, you have an option on the K-1 to shoot full frame, 
APS-C crop, or Auto. The new little mode dial makes it easy to switch. So get 
the K-1, get the D FA 24-70/2.8. Use it full frame. Except when you force it to 
crop mode, and then you have a 42-105…

The open question is how good the K-1 is as a pseudo APS-C camera compared with 
the K-5 or K-3. Is it as good or better even in this mode? [For values of 
good/better which lie somewhere in a multidimensional space with dimensions 
such as Resolution, Tonality, Resistance to noise at High ISO, Dynamic Range, 
etc.]
stan

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Re: GESO: Shooting Hoops with the K-1

[Paul Stenquist]

B still sells the FA 50/1.4. Could be NOS I suppose.

Paul via phone

> On May 10, 2016, at 1:50 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I don't know, that's why I asked. The only reason I can think of is I
> don't think Pentax currently has a full-frame capable 50mm prime in
> production.
> 
> ... or maybe they do, and I don't know about it.
> 
> On 5/9/2016 11:53 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> What *IS* going to be the kit lens for the K-1?
>> 
>> Why wouldn't it still be a 50mm f ? lens like in the days of 35mm film?
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
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Re: Bob Sullivan?

[ann sanfedele]

ugh I'm going to have to change my settings so I canread what GONZ wrote..

ann


On 5/10/2016 1:18 PM, Gonz wrote:

I did.  Don't think it went through...


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Doug Brewer 
wrote:


Gonz, try posting a new message from gmail using the default formatting,
if you don't mind.


On 5/10/16 10:24 AM, Gonz wrote:


He's prolly having the same problem with posting that I do. You have
to make sure that you select "Plain Text" from the drop down menu
before composing your email.


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:


I emailed Bob and replied that he is alive and "mostly" well.

He says he's been having some trouble getting gmail to play nicely
with the list, so a few attempts at posting have been in vain.

Rick
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wrote:


Bob last submitted to February PUG:
http://pug.komkon.org/16feb/slides/BS-8IMGP3018_ed-1.html
But his last posting to the list is dated October 27, 2015.

Ghm...


Mon May 9 16:20:43 EDT 2016 Larry Colen wrote:

Interesting, I also recently realized that we hadn't heard from him in a
while.

On May 9, 2016 1:06:37 PM PDT, Mark Roberts 
wrote:


Rick Womer wrote:

Has anyone heard from him?

Usually he's an enthusiastic early adopter, and the K-1 has been out a
few days without a peep.


I was wondering the same thing. This is the first year he hasn't sent
in a photo for the book.



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Re: test posting

[ann sanfedele]

Comes through here but hard to read that font - in my reply it will show 
up as a different font .. the one I use


I think

ann


On 5/10/2016 1:05 PM, Gonz wrote:

Doug,

Here's a non "Plain Text" formatted posting.  Let me know if it works.

Formatted text: "*Large font*"


Gonz



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Re: GESO: Shooting Hoops with the K-1

[John Sessoms]

I don't know, that's why I asked. The only reason I can think of is I
don't think Pentax currently has a full-frame capable 50mm prime in
production.

... or maybe they do, and I don't know about it.

On 5/9/2016 11:53 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

What *IS* going to be the kit lens for the K-1?


Why wouldn't it still be a 50mm f ? lens like in the days of 35mm film?

Kenneth Waller


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Re: test posting

[Gonz]

Awesome.  Thought it had fallen off the list


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Looks righteous, Gonz. Thanks.
>
> On 5/10/16 1:05 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>> Here's a non "Plain Text" formatted posting.  Let me know if it works.
>>
>> Formatted text: "*Large font*"
>>
>>
>> Gonz
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Re: Camera bags.

[John]

At the time I'm reading this:

1 EUR = 9.33309 NOK or 1 USD = 8.20325 NOK

Their "Jude" model (NOK 2,299) looks like a bag I have.

http://www.fotobag.no/en/kelly-moore/jude.html

But I didn't pay $280 dollars for mine; more like $12 IIRC. It was in a
clearance bin at one of the local camera stores.

On 5/10/2016 10:23 AM, Jostein wrote:

I remember I wondered for a while if Peter-in-Brighton's last name was
Toodle-Pip... :-)

One site that has a collection of bags outside the mainstream is here:
http://www.fotobag.no/en/

No idea if their prices compare internationally, but maybe you get ideas
you can look up from UK vendors. I also happen to know the couple who
run the shop. Two pharmacists who abandoned the rat race, went rural and
started this. I don't get commission though... :-)

Good hunt.

Jostein


Den 09.05.2016 21.01, skrev Malcolm Smith:

I'm still on the search for a decent bag. The last time I bought a bag I
really liked, was a gigantic Tamrac from a list member on the south
coast of
the UK (Brighton? Peter?) who I believe had a shop there and moved to
Japan
(is that right?) - this was many moons ago when a Pentax digital
camera of
any sort was just speculation. Great bag, I store my film cameras in
it etc,
but only useful otherwise day to day if you have some poor devil to
cart it
around for you. I have a backpack which I got as a free gift with a DSLR
body that is too small, and another free bag which just takes a body
and a
50mm lens attached.

Over the years from film, I've noticed that many bags have moved away
from
being able to house two camera bodies. I assume that because you now have
variable ISO, manufactures don't feel you need to have two bodies, as you
might once have done using different film. The thing is, what I want is a
bag that is capable of housing two bodies with lenses attached and enough
room for spare batteries and all the sundries of the digital age. Many of
the places I take photos, especially in the Summer are dusty environments
(horse stables for a start), and frankly, I don't want to be changing
lenses
on site. I normally have one body set up with the 16-85 & the other
with a
55-300.

What I am fed up doing, is carrying a bag which doesn't suit, and a
shopping
bag for the other camera. I don't really want a larger backpack, or a bag
which screams that it contains camera equipment inside. I'm not sure
there
is anything out there that fits the job I want done.

Any ideas?

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Re: Lightroom mistakes

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I do most of those terrible things already.

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> http://petapixel.com/2016/05/09/10-common-lightroom-mistakes-fix-avoid/
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Re: Bob Sullivan?

[John]

Maybe it's Gmail that's gone wrong instead of you?

On 5/10/2016 10:30 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

I don't know where I went wrong, but it wasn't a problem before.
I've been reading some emails from MIT classmates.
Maybe they got me into this situation.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Gonz  wrote:

He's prolly having the same problem with posting that I do. You have
to make sure that you select "Plain Text" from the drop down menu
before composing your email.


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:

I emailed Bob and replied that he is alive and "mostly" well.

He says he's been having some trouble getting gmail to play nicely
with the list, so a few attempts at posting have been in vain.

Rick
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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Bob last submitted to February PUG:
http://pug.komkon.org/16feb/slides/BS-8IMGP3018_ed-1.html
But his last posting to the list is dated October 27, 2015.

Ghm...


Mon May 9 16:20:43 EDT 2016 Larry Colen wrote:

Interesting, I also recently realized that we hadn't heard from him in a
while.

On May 9, 2016 1:06:37 PM PDT, Mark Roberts 
wrote:


Rick Womer wrote:


Has anyone heard from him?

Usually he's an enthusiastic early adopter, and the K-1 has been out a
few days without a peep.



I was wondering the same thing. This is the first year he hasn't sent
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Re: Bob Sullivan?

[Gonz]

This is in plain text, the previous one was not.  Also posted one in
formatted text a while back.


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> I did.  Don't think it went through...
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Doug Brewer 
> wrote:
>>
>> Gonz, try posting a new message from gmail using the default formatting,
>> if you don't mind.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/16 10:24 AM, Gonz wrote:
>>>
>>> He's prolly having the same problem with posting that I do. You have
>>> to make sure that you select "Plain Text" from the drop down menu
>>> before composing your email.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:

 I emailed Bob and replied that he is alive and "mostly" well.

 He says he's been having some trouble getting gmail to play nicely
 with the list, so a few attempts at posting have been in vain.

 Rick
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>
> Bob last submitted to February PUG:
> http://pug.komkon.org/16feb/slides/BS-8IMGP3018_ed-1.html
> But his last posting to the list is dated October 27, 2015.
>
> Ghm...
>
>
> Mon May 9 16:20:43 EDT 2016 Larry Colen wrote:
>
> Interesting, I also recently realized that we hadn't heard from him in
> a
> while.
>
> On May 9, 2016 1:06:37 PM PDT, Mark Roberts  robertstech.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Rick Womer wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone heard from him?
>>>
>>> Usually he's an enthusiastic early adopter, and the K-1 has been out
>>> a
>>> few days without a peep.
>>
>>
>> I was wondering the same thing. This is the first year he hasn't sent
>> in a photo for the book.
>>
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Re: Bob Sullivan?

[Gonz]

I did.  Don't think it went through...


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Doug Brewer 
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> Gonz, try posting a new message from gmail using the default formatting,
> if you don't mind.
>
>
> On 5/10/16 10:24 AM, Gonz wrote:
>
>> He's prolly having the same problem with posting that I do. You have
>> to make sure that you select "Plain Text" from the drop down menu
>> before composing your email.
>>
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>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
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>>> I emailed Bob and replied that he is alive and "mostly" well.
>>>
>>> He says he's been having some trouble getting gmail to play nicely
>>> with the list, so a few attempts at posting have been in vain.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Igor PDML-StR 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Bob last submitted to February PUG:
 http://pug.komkon.org/16feb/slides/BS-8IMGP3018_ed-1.html
 But his last posting to the list is dated October 27, 2015.

 Ghm...


 Mon May 9 16:20:43 EDT 2016 Larry Colen wrote:

 Interesting, I also recently realized that we hadn't heard from him in a
 while.

 On May 9, 2016 1:06:37 PM PDT, Mark Roberts >>> robertstech.com>
 wrote:

> Rick Womer wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard from him?
>>
>> Usually he's an enthusiastic early adopter, and the K-1 has been out a
>> few days without a peep.
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> I was wondering the same thing. This is the first year he hasn't sent
> in a photo for the book.
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Re: test posting

[Doug Brewer]

Looks righteous, Gonz. Thanks.

On 5/10/16 1:05 PM, Gonz wrote:

Doug,

Here's a non "Plain Text" formatted posting.  Let me know if it works.

Formatted text: "*Large font*"


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Re: Hobart PDML-meet

[John]

They did sometimes (frequently, at least once per episode) miss the
obvious and got all wrapped up with tangential issues.

On 5/10/2016 10:07 AM, Ken Waller wrote:


I found it a great source of comic relief regarding not only car
mechanical issues but also with some of the driver's questions.

-Original Message-

From: Larry Colen  Subject: Re: Hobart PDML-meet



Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Nice photo! You look like "Click and Clack" brothers.


Actually, that's Click and Clack, the Tappet brothers.

I will grant that they know a lot more about car repairs than I do,
as does anyone who has run a shop, but being a motorhead, I found
their show annoying beyond belief.




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Re: HTML testing

[John]

On 5/10/2016 8:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

mike wilson wrote:


It's made perfectly clear on joining that the list is plain text only.  If
someone has something to say that is important enough, they will find a way of
sending it plain text.  I prefer the security and lack of farkles of the present
situation.


When we get it all sorted the List will still be in plain text only.
But people will be able to send email to the server without
reconfiguring their client to send plain text only. (The server will
strip out everything but the plain text before passing it on to the
list.)

This is becoming important because almost all email services default
to HTML text these days and they're (deliberately, in my opinion)
making it more difficult for users to change to plain text only.




They can take my plain text email when they pry it from my cold dead 
fingers!


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Re: PDML Photo Annual

[Jan van Wijk]

On Tue, 10 May 2016 09:52:50 -0400 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
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>
>Good news-your Blurb order is ready! We are shipping you the following book(s):

Mine should be here tomorrow as well, hardcover with imagewrap ...

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Re: Has anyone posted full size K-1 images on the web

[John]

If they all took that long to load, yes ...

but Paul & Bill's images loaded the way I expect an image to load on
broadband. It's just that one image from Ricoh.

On 5/10/2016 5:25 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

Apart from the image quality, what these pictures show to me is that
I have to add the cost of a new computer to the K-1 'business
case'...



El Lunes 9 de Mayo de 2016 22:52, John 
escribió:



On 5/9/2016 4:40 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

Cant really appreciate the new camera with the small pix that have
been posted so far. Anybody know an url where I can see some full
size high resolution k-1 images? jco



Wow! I don't think I've had an image that took so long to download
since dial-up days.




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test posting

[Gonz]

Doug,

Here's a non "Plain Text" formatted posting.  Let me know if it works.

Formatted text: "*Large font*"


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Re: GESO: Old cars with a new camera.

[John]

On 5/9/2016 5:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On second (or third) thought the black car is a 1954 Jaguar XK 120.
The 140 had the leaping cat on the hood. Almost certainly a genuine
Jag.

Paul via phone



I wonder about the mag wheels though? Shouldn't it have center knock-off
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Re: GESO: Old cars with a new camera.

[John]

On 5/9/2016 6:45 PM, Bill wrote:

On 5/9/2016 3:52 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

It appears to be a Jaguar XK 140.


Right you are. My clumsy fingers identified it as an XK 150

bill


Paul via phone


On May 9, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Gonz  wrote:

What's that black car, its a beauty. Kit also?



You can buy a "replica" of the XK 140, but I'm not sure it's available
as a kit. An original XK 140 should have wire wheels, but it could still be.

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Re: html ping 2

[Boris Liberman]

or fell through the cracks...
On 10 May 2016 18:53, "Zos Xavius"  wrote:

> Nope. Didn't get through. ;)
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Re: html ping 2

[Boris Liberman]

cool... so I'm going to retire my 3rd party mailer for android now...
On 10 May 2016 18:24, "Bob Sullivan"  wrote:

> reading you 5 by 9
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Lightroom mistakes

[Larry Colen]

A series of tutorials showing how to screw up your photos in lightroom.
http://petapixel.com/2016/05/09/10-common-lightroom-mistakes-fix-avoid/

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Re: PESO: Focus Stack with Pixel Shift

[John]

On 5/9/2016 7:58 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Oh god. Quit making me want this camera more! :)



They can't make me want the camera any more than I already do; they can
only increase my level of pain & frustration that I can't buy one yet.

Just have to grit my teeth & endure until then.

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Re: Can someone report on the K-1 wifi?

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On Mon, 9 May 2016 16:53:10 -0600 Bill wrote:
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>>How well does tethering work?  What about file transfer?
>>
>
>I did a little bit of tethering experimentation with my iPad yesterday. I 
>didn't do any range testing, but it works well enough.
>There is a 200.00 piece of software that you can buy that allows real 
>tethering to a computer. I haven't bothered as it isn't something I do.
>I expect Bruce Walker is using that software with his 645.

I am pretty sure I read that the latest Lightroom release now supports the K-1 
too, for thethering support.

(not free either, but you alredy may have that :)

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Re: This is an HTML email

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Herr Listmeister set the software to accept html, but it converts it to
plain text, IIRC.

On Tuesday, May 10, 2016, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Comic Sans! ack! feh!
>
> fortunately, I set the fonts for my incoming mail in Thunderbird...
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> ann
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>> Yep. It's working. Now we can enjoy PDML emails in *Comic Sans*, as God
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>> Hope nobody gets carried away with the capabilities.
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>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola > >
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>> I use GMail, and usually I must select "plain text" or my post to the PDML
>>> bounces.
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>>> This is a test message with "plain text" turned off, which I assume is
>>> HTML.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Darren Addy 
>>> wrote:
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>>> I *think*.
 Test to see if it is going through.

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PDML Photo Annual 2016 ARRIVED!

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I received my copy just before noon today.

Absolutely Gorgeous!

Congratulations to Mark Robers and his team on a great job.

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Re: This is an HTML email

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Comic Sans! ack! feh!

fortunately, I set the fonts for my incoming mail in Thunderbird...

ann


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Yep. It's working. Now we can enjoy PDML emails in *Comic Sans*, as God
intended.
Hope nobody gets carried away with the capabilities.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
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I use GMail, and usually I must select "plain text" or my post to the PDML
bounces.

This is a test message with "plain text" turned off, which I assume is
HTML.


Dan Matyola
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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Darren Addy 
wrote:


I *think*.
Test to see if it is going through.

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RE: Camera bags.

[Malcolm Smith]

Jostein wrote:
 
> I remember I wondered for a while if Peter-in-Brighton's last name was
> Toodle-Pip... :-)
> 
> One site that has a collection of bags outside the mainstream is here:
> http://www.fotobag.no/en/
> 
> No idea if their prices compare internationally, but maybe you get
> ideas you can look up from UK vendors. I also happen to know the couple
> who run the shop. Two pharmacists who abandoned the rat race, went
> rural and started this. I don't get commission though... :-)
> 
> Good hunt.
> 
> Jostein

Toodle-pip - of course!

Thanks Jostein, a very interesting range of high quality bags. I hope they
do well but my feeling is they are too nice for my purpose.

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Re: html ping 2

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Nope. Didn't get through. ;)
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Re: html ping 2

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reading you 5 by 9

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Re: This is an HTML email

[Gromit Roberts]

Looks like plain text... as the Flying Spaghetti Monster intended!

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> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Darren Addy 
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> Let's see of that is true:
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> *This is in Comic Sans, as God intended.*
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html ping 2

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Re: Hobart PDML-meet

[Bob Sullivan]

I liked their legal representation.  The law firm was
'Dewey, Cheatem, and How'
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
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>
> Larry,
>
> You are taking things too literally, literally. ;)  [sic!]
>
> Tom and Ray Magliozzi are "Click and Clack, the Tappet brothers"
> (as can be easily seen e.g. from the Wikipedia page I added as a explanation
> for the cultural _reference_ for the benefit of our
> overseas friends:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Ray_Magliozzi  ).
>
>
>
> However, our fellow PDMLers look like "Click and Clack" brothers.
> (not like Tom and Ray, despite some possible visual resemblance).
> :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
> PS. As for the Car Talk show, the technical details were not the primary
> thing, even though I enjoyed some diagnostics cases. Rather, I loved Tom and
> Ray for their wit and nice humor.
>
>
>
> Tue May 10 02:27:21 EDT 2016 Larry Colen wrote:
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>
> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nice photo!
>> You look like "Click and Clack" brothers.
>
>
> Actually, that's Click and Clack, the Tappet brothers.
>
> I will grant that they know a lot more about car repairs than I do, as
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> show annoying beyond belief.
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Re: Testing w. Gmail

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It came through just fine.

Dan Matyola
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Re: OT Geso Fire hall

[David J Brooks]

Actiually John it seems i did make 2 changes, i set ISO from 400 to
250 and shadow contrast from -1 to -2. I will change back

Dave

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:36 PM, John Coyle  wrote:
> Sorry for the wrong name, Dave - that's what comes of replying to a reply!
> I didn't find the clarity or smoothness of any of the shots taken in the fire 
> hall up to what I have
> come to expect from you, that's all.
>
>
> John in Brisbane
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks
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> Subject: Re: OT Geso Fire hall
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> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 7:29 PM, John Coyle  wrote:
>> Not wanting to rain on your parade, Bill, but the quality of these is
>> way below your norm.  Were you shooting at very high ISO?
>
> If you are replying to me, I'm Dave.:-)
> I shot at ISO 250
>
> Dave
>>
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks
>> Sent: Sunday, 8 May 2016 22:20
>> To: Pentax Discuss 
>> Subject: OT Geso Fire hall
>>
>> Saturday was the annual open house at our fire hall Station 52. We
>> have gone to many of these to support our son in law and the local
>> charities. Clark had a better time at this one being 17 months old now.
>>
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-firehall/album/index.html
>>
>> Two photos at the end are from the war departments new android phone.
>> I can't seem to get them off the phone onto the computer so i have to
>> send my daughter a message and she posts them on my message board thingy on 
>> face book.
>>
>> Fuji X30
>>
>> Dave
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