PESO Berry leaves

[Larry Colen]

Rather than hiking in the redwood forest in the state park (Fall Creek), I went 
for a walk in the chaparral in  the county park halfway around my block (Quail 
Hollow). As it turns out, once I put the DFA 50 macro on the K-1 it stayed 
there for the rest of the afternoon. When I bought it, all I had was an APS 
sensor body, and it was an awkward focal length, and the DA 35 made an 
excellent go for a walk in the woods lens.  When I’m specifically shooting 
macro I almost always use the DFA-100, unless I want a wide AoV for the 
background, in which case I’ll use the sigma 20, so I don’t tend to think of 
the 50.  
On my walk in Fall Creek yesterday, I found myself switching a lot between the 
DFA 100 and the 35/1.4 so I thought I’d give the 50 a try today.  It really 
does work quite well as a walkaround lens, particularly in the woods.

At one point there were some backlit berry leaves that had mostly turned red.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50941595606/in/album-72157718285290357/

If anybody is interested in the rest of my walk:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157718285290357

The manzanita was quite interesting, many of the plants were somewhere between, 
buds, flowers and berries, so the macro got quite the workout.


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Re: GESO: Nightcicles

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Hey;  take a look at that snow and those icicles.  It's 82 in Maui, and the
Pacific is full of cavorting whales.

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On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 9:21 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On Feb 13, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Paul and Larry.
> > That's a great suggestion for next year, Larry, but I plan to be in Maui
> > next year!
>
> You’d be willing to miss a photo opportunity like that just to go to
> Hawaii?
> You might be smarter than you look.
>
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Re: GESO: Nightcicles

[Paul Stenquist]

I like the first one . Nice image.

Paul

> On Feb 13, 2021, at 5:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I tried to follow Larry's advice and throw some light on the icicles so I
> could photograph them at night, thus eliminating the distracting
> background.  Since I couldn't get out on the deck to aim a light on the
> icicles, I just turned on the light that is on the upper deck, and grabbed
> what I could.  These are the best two of the exposures I managed in the
> middle of the night.  Obviously, a lot more work is needed:
> 
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/2/13/nightcicles
> 
> 
> K-5 IIs, DA 35 mm F 2.8 Macro Limited, hand held, through fogged windows.
> Comments, suggestions, criticisms and questions are invited and
> appreciated.
> 
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Re: GESO: Nightcicles

[Larry Colen]

> On Feb 13, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Paul and Larry.
> That's a great suggestion for next year, Larry, but I plan to be in Maui
> next year!

You’d be willing to miss a photo opportunity like that just to go to Hawaii?
You might be smarter than you look.


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Re: GESO: Nightcicles

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Paul and Larry.
That's a great suggestion for next year, Larry, but I plan to be in Maui
next year!

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On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 5:25 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
>
> > On Feb 13, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > I tried to follow Larry's advice and throw some light on the icicles so I
> > could photograph them at night, thus eliminating the distracting
> > background.  Since I couldn't get out on the deck to aim a light on the
> > icicles, I just turned on the light that is on the upper deck, and
> grabbed
> > what I could.  These are the best two of the exposures I managed in the
> > middle of the night.  Obviously, a lot more work is needed:
> >
> >
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/2/13/nightcicles
>
> But they show tremendous promise.  The first one is very cool.
>
> Maybe next year, leave a string of colored led Christmas lights up so you
> can get icicles glowing in different colors come this time of year.
>
>
> >
> >
> > K-5 IIs, DA 35 mm F 2.8 Macro Limited, hand held, through fogged windows.
> > Comments, suggestions, criticisms and questions are invited and
> > appreciated.
> >
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Re: PESOs (5) - Wintry Cemetery

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You captured very well the solemnity of the place and the visual impact of
the snow on the cemetery scene.
Boy, that fire hydrant really jumps out at the viewer!

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On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:58 PM Rick Womer  wrote:

> Late Thursday afternoon I took my camera for a walk in nearby Woodland
> Cemetery. It was a remarkably monochrome landscape; in a couple of these
> shots one struggles to distinguish B and color versions. The few people
> around were all dressed in dark colors, too,  I included the fire plug in
> the fourth image just for a splash of color.
>
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/February-2021/Wintry-Cemetery/
>
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
>
> Comments always appreciated!
>
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I apologize for calling England an island, Bob.  My bad;  I certainly know
better.
I agree with everything you just said.

Dan Matyola




On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 2:19 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:

> > On 13 Feb 2021, at 18:21, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > I hope England survives and thrives as an isolated island after Brexit,
> but
>
> I’m sure England will be fine, but it’s not an island, and the other
> people who share the island of Great Britain get upset when we the English,
> as well as other people, treat the whole place as England...
>
> > I also hope the Scots leave and rejoin the EU and the Northern
> > Irish finally give up and join the Republic.   The question of where the
> > border is remains a thorny one for the UK and the EU.  It is hard to see
> > how every side can be accommodated.
>
> Everybody knows where the border is, that’s not at issue. The question was
> at what point, and at which border, should various controls take place and
> that has been settled.
>
> I hope the Scots get another opportunity soon to decide their future.
>
> I also think that Ireland should never have been partitioned and hope for
> a peacefully united Ireland at some time, if that is what the Irish people
> as a whole want, and if it can be achieved without a civil war.
>
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[mike wilson]

Its binomial name (here) is.  Troglodytes troglodytes.  There are about 30 
subspecies, many of them endemic to islands, such as the Corsican and St Kilda 
wrens.  They all have triple-barrelled names.  There is about the same number 
of fully seperate species in the New World.

> On 13 February 2021 at 15:37 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> The wren picture is from a French website. Troglodyte is simply the French 
> for wren. It really means a cave-dweller, the meaning you give is secondary 
> to that (when we were children living in Anglesey we called the local people 
> trogs). The French version of the wren apparently lives in small holes.
> 
> After I sent my original reply it occurred to me that the (British) English 
> equivalent of mignon would be sweet, as in ‘what a sweet little child’. 
> 
> Etymologically it is from an Old High German word ‘minnia’ meaning love 
> (https://fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/mignon). 
> 
> 
> > On 13 Feb 2021, at 14:39, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> > 
> > To me, mignon means small, as in filet mignon.  Troglodyte means "a person
> > characterized by reclusive habits or outmoded or reactionary attitudes."
> > 
> > Dan Matyola
> > 
> >> On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 6:14 AM mike wilson  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
>  On 13 February 2021 at 11:08 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> The word mignon, in troglodyte mignon, is often used to describe cute
> >> kids. It means things like charming, pretty, likeable...
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: Geso: Varykino

[Larry Colen]

That is a scene totally foreign to this California boy.  Now I understand why 
you spend so much time in Hawaii.

That motion sensor light next to the patio door could very well do what I was 
suggesting with the clamp lights in the other thread.



> On Feb 13, 2021, at 2:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> A small gallery taken from my back yard looking at my house.  The first
> images shows the depth of snow on the rear deck and on the roof.  All four
> show the iciclesthat form on the North side, where the snow melts very
> slowly.
> 
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/2/13/varykino
> 
> K-5 IIs, DA 35 mm F 2.8 Macro Limited, hand held, standing in deep snow and
> ice..
> Comments, suggestions, criticisms and questions are invited and
> appreciated.
> 
> Queue *Lara's Theme.*
> 
> Dan Matyola
> 
> Dan Matyola
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Re: GESO: Nightcicles

[Larry Colen]

> On Feb 13, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I tried to follow Larry's advice and throw some light on the icicles so I
> could photograph them at night, thus eliminating the distracting
> background.  Since I couldn't get out on the deck to aim a light on the
> icicles, I just turned on the light that is on the upper deck, and grabbed
> what I could.  These are the best two of the exposures I managed in the
> middle of the night.  Obviously, a lot more work is needed:
> 
> https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/2/13/nightcicles

But they show tremendous promise.  The first one is very cool.

Maybe next year, leave a string of colored led Christmas lights up so you can 
get icicles glowing in different colors come this time of year.


> 
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> 
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Geso: Varykino

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A small gallery taken from my back yard looking at my house.  The first
images shows the depth of snow on the rear deck and on the roof.  All four
show the iciclesthat form on the North side, where the snow melts very
slowly.

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/2/13/varykino

K-5 IIs, DA 35 mm F 2.8 Macro Limited, hand held, standing in deep snow and
ice..
Comments, suggestions, criticisms and questions are invited and
appreciated.

Queue *Lara's Theme.*

Dan Matyola

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GESO: Nightcicles

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I tried to follow Larry's advice and throw some light on the icicles so I
could photograph them at night, thus eliminating the distracting
background.  Since I couldn't get out on the deck to aim a light on the
icicles, I just turned on the light that is on the upper deck, and grabbed
what I could.  These are the best two of the exposures I managed in the
middle of the night.  Obviously, a lot more work is needed:

https://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2021/2/13/nightcicles


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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[mike wilson]

Looks like we are seperated not only by geography and a common language.  8 
-)
> On 13 February 2021 at 13:42 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Mike and Bob, for your interesting and informative comments.  I
> appreciate them all, and much of that I knew already.
> 
> The article, and my posting of it was intended solely as humor.
> 
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Re: PESOs (5) - Wintry Cemetery

[Larry Colen]

> On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> A very enjoyable set. Snowy cemeteries always look nice.

So long as you have the choice to leave.


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Re: LINK TO ARCHIVES

[Doug Brewer]

:cough:

On 2/12/21 3:01 PM, John wrote:

On 2/12/2021 11:56:20, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 12/2/21, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


I am working on a State of The List message


Surely a State of The List Address - you need some PDML fags behind 
you, livestreamed from your Pentax of of course!





"Fans" or "Flags" maybe?

Is anyone on the list still a smoker?



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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[Bob Pdml]

> On 13 Feb 2021, at 18:21, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I hope England survives and thrives as an isolated island after Brexit, but

I’m sure England will be fine, but it’s not an island, and the other people who 
share the island of Great Britain get upset when we the English, as well as 
other people, treat the whole place as England...

> I also hope the Scots leave and rejoin the EU and the Northern
> Irish finally give up and join the Republic.   The question of where the
> border is remains a thorny one for the UK and the EU.  It is hard to see
> how every side can be accommodated.

Everybody knows where the border is, that’s not at issue. The question was at 
what point, and at which border, should various controls take place and that 
has been settled.

I hope the Scots get another opportunity soon to decide their future. 

I also think that Ireland should never have been partitioned and hope for a 
peacefully united Ireland at some time, if that is what the Irish people as a 
whole want, and if it can be achieved without a civil war.


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Re: PESOs (5) - Wintry Cemetery

[Bob Pdml]

A very enjoyable set. Snowy cemeteries always look nice.

> On 13 Feb 2021, at 17:58, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Late Thursday afternoon I took my camera for a walk in nearby Woodland 
> Cemetery. It was a remarkably monochrome landscape; in a couple of these 
> shots one struggles to distinguish B and color versions. The few people 
> around were all dressed in dark colors, too,  I included the fire plug in the 
> fourth image just for a splash of color.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/February-2021/Wintry-Cemetery/
> 
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
> 
> Comments always appreciated!
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You know, some of our founding fathers wanted to make German the language
of the American government, instead of English.  The area I live in was
settled first by the Native Americans, then by Swedes, then by Dutch, and
then by German refugees.  The English Army threw the Dutch out of New
Netherlands by force, as the English were wont to do.

I hope England survives and thrives as an isolated island after Brexit, but
I also hope the Scots leave and rejoin the EU and the Northern
Irish finally give up and join the Republic.   The question of where the
border is remains a thorny one for the UK and the EU.  It is hard to see
how every side can be accommodated.

Dan Matyola

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 1:10 PM mike wilson  wrote:

> Looks like we are seperated not only by geography and a common
> language.  8 -)
> > On 13 February 2021 at 13:42 "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Mike and Bob, for your interesting and informative comments.  I
> > appreciate them all, and much of that I knew already.
> >
> > The article, and my posting of it was intended solely as humor.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
>
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PESOs (5) - Wintry Cemetery

[Rick Womer]

Late Thursday afternoon I took my camera for a walk in nearby Woodland 
Cemetery. It was a remarkably monochrome landscape; in a couple of these shots 
one struggles to distinguish B and color versions. The few people around were 
all dressed in dark colors, too,  I included the fire plug in the fourth image 
just for a splash of color.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/February-2021/Wintry-Cemetery/

(K-5, DA 17-70)

Comments always appreciated!

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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[mike wilson]

> On 13 February 2021 at 11:16 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 13 Feb 2021, at 11:14, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On 13 February 2021 at 11:08 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The word mignon, in troglodyte mignon, is often used to describe cute 
> >> kids. It means things like charming, pretty, likeable...
> > 
> > And the bird (Common Wren) is one of the commonest birds in the UK but, at 
> > the same time, is so secretive that it is rarely seen.  It does make a lot 
> > of noise, though.  So a perfect descriptor.
> 
> My parents’ garden attracted a lot of birds and I often used to see wrens 
> there. I see quite a few round here too. They’re one of my favourites. 

The ones in our garden are occasionally visible, as they flit from one clump of 
vegetation to another.  Even more rarely they will perch somewhere obvious and 
shreik defiance at the world, before going back into hiding and carrying on 
being noisy from there.  They are highly amusing.
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[Bob Pdml]

The wren picture is from a French website. Troglodyte is simply the French for 
wren. It really means a cave-dweller, the meaning you give is secondary to that 
(when we were children living in Anglesey we called the local people trogs). 
The French version of the wren apparently lives in small holes.

After I sent my original reply it occurred to me that the (British) English 
equivalent of mignon would be sweet, as in ‘what a sweet little child’. 

Etymologically it is from an Old High German word ‘minnia’ meaning love 
(https://fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/mignon). 


> On 13 Feb 2021, at 14:39, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> To me, mignon means small, as in filet mignon.  Troglodyte means "a person
> characterized by reclusive habits or outmoded or reactionary attitudes."
> 
> Dan Matyola
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 6:14 AM mike wilson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
 On 13 February 2021 at 11:08 Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The word mignon, in troglodyte mignon, is often used to describe cute
>> kids. It means things like charming, pretty, likeable...
>> 
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[mike wilson]

> On 13 February 2021 at 11:08 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> The word mignon, in troglodyte mignon, is often used to describe cute kids. 
> It means things like charming, pretty, likeable...

And the bird (Common Wren) is one of the commonest birds in the UK but, at the 
same time, is so secretive that it is rarely seen.  It does make a lot of 
noise, though.  So a perfect descriptor.

> 
> > On 13 Feb 2021, at 11:01, mike wilson  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On 12 February 2021 at 22:23 "Daniel J. Matyola"  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://twistedsifter.com/2021/02/funny-bird-species-names-compilation/
> >> 
> > 
> > Quite the opposite in most cases.  Some (e.g. Smew) are onomatopoeic 
> > versions of the bid's call.  Others (troglodyte mignon) refer to behaviour 
> > or (horned screamer) are purely descriptive.  The only one that may be 
> > slightly unkind is the (Blue footed - there are others) Booby.  This is 
> > related to the albatross, spends minimal time earthbound and is therefore 
> > not the most agile of animals on its feet.  But that assumes a late 20th 
> > century useage of the term, which may not be correct.
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[mike wilson]

> On 12 February 2021 at 22:23 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://twistedsifter.com/2021/02/funny-bird-species-names-compilation/
> 

Quite the opposite in most cases.  Some (e.g. Smew) are onomatopoeic versions 
of the bid's call.  Others (troglodyte mignon) refer to behaviour or (horned 
screamer) are purely descriptive.  The only one that may be slightly unkind is 
the (Blue footed - there are others) Booby.  This is related to the albatross, 
spends minimal time earthbound and is therefore not the most agile of animals 
on its feet.  But that assumes a late 20th century useage of the term, which 
may not be correct.
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[Daniel J. Matyola]

To me, mignon means small, as in filet mignon.  Troglodyte means "a person
characterized by reclusive habits or outmoded or reactionary attitudes."

Dan Matyola

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 6:14 AM mike wilson  wrote:

>
> > On 13 February 2021 at 11:08 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >
> >
> > The word mignon, in troglodyte mignon, is often used to describe cute
> kids. It means things like charming, pretty, likeable...
>
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[ann sanfedele]

I have to agree with Mike..and I love those bird names! - they are funny 
and sometimes very sweet and/or rightly descriptive . and remember, 
these mentioned are just the ENGLISH language version of the birds 
common names, i.e., nicknames.. Not their actual zoological species 
names in most cases.

(note to that twitter poster.. ugh)

I was kind of annoyed by the headline on Twisted Sifter "Species of 
Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds is a Thing and It’s Incredible"

(it's the "incredible" that really got to me)

Much funnier (IMHO) and enjoyable are the two books by John, Ben and 
Catheryn Sill who love birds but have invented a variety of species and 
illustrated them in " A field Guide to LIttle Known and Seldom Seen 
birds of North America." I've got the original paperbacks from 1988 and 
1990..but there is a 2013 volume with a new not as cute cover on Amazon 
as well.  Lots of used copies all over the internet, at least on this 
side of the pond..


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On 2/13/2021 6:01 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 12 February 2021 at 22:23 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:


https://twistedsifter.com/2021/02/funny-bird-species-names-compilation/


Quite the opposite in most cases.  Some (e.g. Smew) are onomatopoeic versions 
of the bid's call.  Others (troglodyte mignon) refer to behaviour or (horned 
screamer) are purely descriptive.  The only one that may be slightly unkind is 
the (Blue footed - there are others) Booby.  This is related to the albatross, 
spends minimal time earthbound and is therefore not the most agile of animals 
on its feet.  But that assumes a late 20th century useage of the term, which 
may not be correct.
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Mike and Bob, for your interesting and informative comments.  I
appreciate them all, and much of that I knew already.

The article, and my posting of it was intended solely as humor.

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Re: More Ice

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Larry, for the suggestion.  I have a clamp light and LED bulbs I
could put in it.  I actually tried going out on the upper deck, to see what
I could do. but I can't open the door because it opens outward and there is
two feet of snow and ice on the deck and right against the door.

I tried turning on the outdoor light on the deck next to the door last
night.  Not much light reached the icicles I can see from the nearest
window, but I took a few exposures and will see what if anything develops.

Dan Matyola

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 3:51 PM Larry Colen  wrote:

>
> I have had great luck using $10 clamp lights with LED light bulbs.  If you
> break off the diffuser, the LEDs are often on a flat plate giving you more
> of a directional beam.  Since they put out relatively little heat, it’s
> also relatively easy to make a snoot out of aluminum foil, or for that
> matter something like a cereal box.
>
> You can also get light fixtures that attach to light stands, and I use
> those a lot when I’m using the LED lights as hot lights.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/XkhxTbDS2W7cA26u8
>
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Re: More Ice

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Not that I can tell.  we have screens over the gutters all around the
house, and they seem also to prevent ice from getting under the shingles,

Dan Matyola

On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:55 PM Bill  wrote:

> You aren't getting any ice damming are you?
>
> bill
>
>
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Re: More Ice

[Daniel J. Matyola]

We have insulation on the roof and in the attic, but I guess we could
always use more.  The classic sign of insufficient insulation is when the
snow on the roof melts away quickly, due to heat from the attic.  We still
have a heavy layer of snow all over our roof, even on the southern side.

When the sun comes out, It melts some of the ice on the roof, and the slow
run-off forms these icicles.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 7:37 PM Ken Waller  wrote:

> Looks like you could use more insulation in the roof.
>
>
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

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On 13 Feb 2021, at 11:14, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 13 February 2021 at 11:08 Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The word mignon, in troglodyte mignon, is often used to describe cute kids. 
>> It means things like charming, pretty, likeable...
> 
> And the bird (Common Wren) is one of the commonest birds in the UK but, at 
> the same time, is so secretive that it is rarely seen.  It does make a lot of 
> noise, though.  So a perfect descriptor.

My parents’ garden attracted a lot of birds and I often used to see wrens 
there. I see quite a few round here too. They’re one of my favourites. 
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Re: OT: Species of Birds Named By People Who Clearly Hate Birds

[Bob Pdml]

The word mignon, in troglodyte mignon, is often used to describe cute kids. It 
means things like charming, pretty, likeable...

> On 13 Feb 2021, at 11:01, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 12 February 2021 at 22:23 "Daniel J. Matyola"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://twistedsifter.com/2021/02/funny-bird-species-names-compilation/
>> 
> 
> Quite the opposite in most cases.  Some (e.g. Smew) are onomatopoeic versions 
> of the bid's call.  Others (troglodyte mignon) refer to behaviour or (horned 
> screamer) are purely descriptive.  The only one that may be slightly unkind 
> is the (Blue footed - there are others) Booby.  This is related to the 
> albatross, spends minimal time earthbound and is therefore not the most agile 
> of animals on its feet.  But that assumes a late 20th century useage of the 
> term, which may not be correct.
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