Price drop on Optio MXbeen
When I showed up for work today at Wally World, I discovered that the Optio MX had been reduced from $348.00 US to $248.00 US. Great deal! Bill
Re: Mount St. Helens
A recent documentary on the NG channel shows the possibility of a super volcano under Yellowstone National Park. Bill - Original Message - From: Jim Apilado [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Mount St. Helens Interesting story in the Portland Oregonian newspaper about the dangers of Mt. Rainier. That 14,000 foot peak poses a real threat to the population centers of Tacoma and Seattle, Washington. The threat comes from lahars, or a flowing mass of mud and debris, flowing down channels where older lahars spread thousands of years ago. No large population then. Today, millions. St. Helens still continues to grow its new lava dome. Earthquake activity is down. Jim A. From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Stanley, Powers Matyola Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:02:34 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mount St. Helens Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:57:40 -0400 Still puffing along: http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/
Re: C-41 Process Black and White
The Fuji Frontier 375 that we use has a setting for both color and BW film (C41 that is) If we forget to change the film type from color to BW, we end up with prints with a blue tint. If we use the proper setting, prints are actually, really, surprisingly, real BW. Bill - Original Message - From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:19 AM Subject: C-41 Process Black and White To those BW purists out there, the PX, TX, TM folks: (You KNOW who you are!) ;-) Is the C41 BW film even worth a try? I understand a mini lab will probably give me off color prints. How does it behave when printing yourself, or at a good lab? Is the tonality and sharpness any good? Any special tricks? (Over/Under expose, filters, etc.) Don
Re: How big can you print from 3MP?
I'm probably not as nit-picky as most of you, but 8x10 looks fine to me from both the Optio S and Optio MX Bill
Re: When good photographers do bad things
OSHA has no jurisdiction in Canada. :-) Bill - Original Message - From: Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:13 PM Subject: Re: When good photographers do bad things The girl on the ladder should have been wearing steel toed boots. OSHA will be by to fine you for workplace safety violations. -- William Robb wrote: Or not. Anyway, here is a random sampling of my escapade yesterday. Before commenting cruelly, please consider that the girls are not professional models, and the entire affair was somewhat underorganized. Also, these pictures are of young women wearing little (very little in some pictures) clothing. If partial nudity and suggestive posing offends you, don't click the link. http://www.komkon.org/~wrobb/ William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
Lets hope it happens while there is still film out there to buy. I am spending more time explaining digital to people than I ever did explaining film. William Robb Same here. I've found that showing some photos taken with the Optio S or Optio MX and printed on the Frontier 375 show the average consumer they NORMALLY don't need more than 3 megapixels for the usual 4x6 snapshot. Bill
Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera
I'm not sure about this. We've been running a survey at the Wally World where I work in the Photo Center. Since September 1,we've sold 1 PS film camera and 27 digital cameras. Probably close to 50% of our film processing is from one time use cameras. Digital processing via our kiosk is increasing daily. Bill - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera John wrote: That's assuming they can sell a couple of thousand. This is a bizarre announcement. REPLY: Well both Pentax and apparently Nikon, think theres still healthy sales to be had in high-end film cameras. Pål
Film vs. Digital
We've been keeping a record of our camera sales at the Wally World where I work. Since Sept 1, we've sold 1 PS film camera and 27 digicams. Bill
Re: *istD: to wait or not to wait that is the question
Mike Wilson posted: The Optio S, maybe but the Optio 330, for sure, uses CF. A pattern: anything with S in the title will use SD cards? The Optio 550, with no S in the name, uses SD cards. ERN As does the Optio MX Bill
Quite a surprise
I returned to work at my local Wal-Mart yesterday after attending this year's GFM Camera Clinic. (I was somewhat ill during the weekend and was unable to attend the presentations). Anyway, when I walked into the photo lab, lo and behold we are now stocking the Optio MX. Bill
Optio MX observations
Although I was unable to attend the presentations at the GFM Camera Clinic this past weekend, I was able to give the Optio MX a bit of a workout. Both still shots and video are good, and I especially like the ability to be able to use Tv, Av and full manual. The 10X optical zoom is sweet (38-380 equivalent), however the digital zoom is worthless. I took one shot using digital zoom at 4x and was not pleased, and I didn't even consider using digital zoom above 4x. Shutter lag is pretty bad, even after prefocusing. Fill flash worked well, but I still haven't tried flash compensation, exposure compensation or flash power adjustments. Overall I'm pleased with both results and ergonomics. Bill
Re: Quite a surprise
Nope, just still feeling the effects of a medical procedure (Pentax endoscope) of a week earlier. Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:55 AM Subject: Re: Quite a surprise On 24/8/04, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed: I returned to work at my local Wal-Mart yesterday after attending this year's GFM Camera Clinic. (I was somewhat ill during the weekend and was unable to attend the presentations). Anyway, when I walked into the photo lab, lo and behold we are now stocking the Optio MX. Bill Sorry to see you weren't in the thick of it Bill, hope you're feeling better. It wasn't the Red Brew was it? ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Later
I'll be unsubbing shortly and heading for this years Grandfather Mountain Camera Clinic. Back sometime Sunday. Bill
Frontier 375 musings
Yesterday at work I had the opportunity to correct a typical Joe Sixpack shot of a birthday cake with white icing taken under fluorescent lighting w/o flash, a fairly common shot. I was surprised that with the color and level adjustments available with the 375 I was able to actually get the icing white instead of the typical fluorescent green. Bill
Re: Baby s*ist*er D
I bought my Optio S from www.walmart.com Bill - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Baby s*ist*er D I've thought about who the baby D will be aimed at and if they intend to sell to the Digital Rebel market they'll also have to get their cameras into mass Merchandisers like Wal-Mart, Circuit City and Best Buy, and I have it on good authority that they'll never get into Wal-Mart. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Robb said, among other things: The camera (vapourware admitedly) will be aimed squarely at the digital Rebel market. One hopes (without much encouragement) that the amount of advertising will also compare ... ERN
Re: DA14mm - why so large and heavy?
I can't understand why so many can't grasp this, after all a xxmm lens is an xxmm lens regardless of whether it's on an 8x10 view camera or a 110 format camera. The image size is the same on all, it's just that on an 8x10 camera the image takes up a smaller portion of the film than on a 110. Bill - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 8:30 AM Subject: Re: DA14mm - why so large and heavy? I was going to comment on this, but I commented on it last month when it came up. Maybe when it comes up next month it can be my turn? Anyway, I have a 6x7 adaptor for my view camera that turns my 65mm lens into a .. 65mm lens. It turns my 90mm lens into a 90mm lens, my 150mm lens into a 150mm lens, and finally, it even changes my 210mm lens into a .. 210mm lens. What is even more startling, is when I put my 6x7- K mount adaptor onto my LX, all my 6x7 lenses get changed into exactly the same focal lengths that are listed on the lens bezels, and to make matters even more confusing, if I mount it on the istD, my 6x7 lenses are still, frustratingly enough, the same focal length as what the manufacturer claims them to be. All this is so confusing, I think I feel my brain leaking out my ear. William Robb
Re: Ford Victoria
Looks to me like a 1956 model Ford. Bill - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:22 PM Subject: PAW: Ford Victoria Something a bit different for me: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2566189 I'm pretty sure this was a Canadian only car (it looked a lot like a Ford Fairlane. They rebadged several cars for the Canadian market back then (like the Pontiac Acadian, which was really a Chevy Nova). Anyway, let me know what you think. thanks, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
We're back home, photos later
We returned home from an extremely enjoyable weekend with our son and his wife in Maryland. We were able to tour both the Goddard Space Flight Center and the US Naval Academy, and the Goddard tour was by far the best. One of the most interesting things I learned there was that the Hubble telescope's camera is only 16 megapixels. IMO, if 16 is good enough for NASA, then 6 is enough for me :-). They will be updating both the software and camera in 2007, but nothing definite about the new camera yet. Also, future Hubble updates will be done remotely from Goddard instead of sending astronauts to do the work. Bill
Great Service from Pentax Imaging USA
Week before last, dumbass that I am, I dropped my day old Optio MX and damaged it to the extent that the LCD was not imaging, and the latch that holds the battery in place was broken. When checking my email after returning from our trip to Maryland, there was a message from Pentax Colorado. I was expecting an estimate for repair, instead I was told that since the camera is so new that they don't have parts yet, they were sending me a new one as a replacement. Bill
Forgot to mention earlier
While visiting in Maryland this past weekend, we had a very enjoyable lunch with Tom V and Ashley yesterday afternoon. Bill
Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?
But not surprising. Bill - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying? Shocking! Norm Gonz wrote: Here is a fresh-off-the-press article that supports this: http://tinyurl.com/6s4su Kodak is seeing a large increase in digital products/services, and a moderate drop-off in film and chemistry related services/products.
See y'all later
I'll be unsubbing shortly for a few days while we visit our son and his wife in the DC area. We're also looking forward to beer and pizza with some of the DCPDML'ers. Plan on being back late next Monday. Bill
Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?
Yes, people USING film still outnumbers those using digital. However, those BUYING new cameras are buying digital and not film Bill - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:03 AM Subject: Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying? Not where I live they are not, film still outnumbers digital by a long stretch. A. On 19 Jul 2004, at 07:38, William Robb wrote: Wish what you like, But daily, there are more people using digital cameras, and fewer using film.
Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?
Not so. Those consumers who used to bring film in for processing are now bringing in memory cards for us to print, and those prints are basically the same cost as film prints and are on the same paper. Bill - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying? Bill, we understand your worry. Your job is on the line. I would suggest your local government agency that retrains folks for new jobs, except that from my experience they will only retrain you for another obsolete about to go down the drain of progress job. Something to think about though, there are still blacksmiths out there, still making a living. -- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Vic Subject: Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying? I know what you are saying but I think everyone here is overreacting. Calm down, there are too many cameras out there that shoot film for film to go away any time soon... I assure you, I am quite calm, and only somewhat enebriated. What part of processing is down 50% over last year dis you miss? A year ago I was processing upwards of 700 rolls per day on a normal day. This year, a busy day is 400 rolls, average is closer to 300. Every one I talk to is in the same boat. Where I live, another small player that wasn't able to adapt to digital processing went tits up just a few weeks ago. Define soon William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)
And I'm holding on to my MZ-S primarily for sentimental reasons. I haven't shot the first frame of film since getting the *ist D. Bill - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:44 AM Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) I sold ALL my film bodies (6 cameras: LX, 3x MX, P3 and SuperProgram) to buy my *ist D. I knew I'd never use film again! ;-) Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] So who here has shed their excess film bodies in view of the pending fate of film? I have, I'm down to the smallest number of film bodies I've had for many years and I don't expect the number to ever increase either.
Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
Now, if the majority of photographers would begin to understand. As I've mentioned in the past, a 50mm lens projects the same size image on the film/sensor regardless of format, it's just that the image takes up a larger portion of the film/sensor the smaller the format. Bill - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying) that's one factor. the other is the automatic 1.5 magnification of the center portion of the lens circle. I'm not aware of magnification. It is a crop of the central part of the lens circle, giving a field of view that looks like a 1.5x magnification. Even the photography magazines seem to have finally begun to understand this. Joe
Re: Film vs Digita, was: lRe: Pentax is Dying?
Probably not. I can download from a card make my adjustments, including cropping, upload it back to a card, take the card to a digital minilab, like our Frontier 375 at work, and print it on Fuji Crystal Archive paper. Bill When gas prices in the States went up, I didn't see people abandoning their cars for public transportation. What happens if the price of ink and paper go up by a factor of 2, 5, or 10? Would you abandoned digital? Jim A.
Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?)
Antonio, I'm afraid that would be wishful thinking. The AVERAGE consumers are switching to digital in droves. I've been working at a local minilab for only about 90 days so far, but we're selling 10-20 digital cameras for every film camera. We're also seeing an increase in digital printing that is the same price, or less if printing 50 or more images, as prints from film. I would also guess that 60-70 percent of our film developing is from one time use cameras. Unfortunately, it is this user that supports film, not those of us who are photographic enthusiasts. Bill - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Film is Dying? (was Pentax is Dying?) Also, an angle not mentioned is the renewed interest folks are having in photography generally as a result of digital- perhaps it will be the saviour of film and not the other way around... A.
Re: istD time date
A replacement camera courtesy of Pentax Imaging USA Bill - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:42 PM Subject: istD time date My mind may be playing tricks on me, but do I remember someone posting that they had to keep re-setting the time and date on their istD because it kept forgetting and went back to 01/01/2003 at 00:00 ? If so, what was the fix? thanks, Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
New toy
While visiting a local camera shop yesterday, the wife and I found out they'd just that morning received their first shipment of 2 Optio MX's. The wife okayed the purchase (probably so she could have HER Optio S back), so we walked out with one of them. My first impression is that it is quite a camera for the price. Full auto, Tv, Av and full manual, flash compensation and flash power adjustment, auto bracketing and 30 fps Mpeg 4 video. Anybody else have one, and what's your impression? Bill
New toy
Sent this awhile ago, but haven't seen it show up yet. Apologies if this is a duplicate post: While visiting a local camera shop yesterday, the wife and I found out they'd just that morning received their first shipment of 2 Optio MX's. The wife okayed the purchase (probably so she could have HER Optio S back), so we walked out with one of them. My first impression is that it is quite a camera for the price. Full auto, Tv, Av and full manual, flash compensation and flash power adjustment, auto bracketing and 30 fps Mpeg 4 video. Anybody else have one, and what's your impression? Bill
Re: Film Is Dead / A Contrary View
We processed a roll of XP2 today and printed it on the 375. This machine has a setting for BW negatives and I was impressed with the results. Bill The only good black and white option that I have seen so far involve darkrooms. William Robb
Re: Polaroid/Agfa
My slides from the 1960's on the old Agfachrome 64 are fine, but I don't have enough old negatives to render an opinion. Bill - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Polaroid/Agfa On 11 Jul 2004 at 21:34, Bill Owens wrote: I've been using Agfa films, both slide and negative, since the early 1960's. I find their palatte to be very neutral and colors very true. All my dads Agfa neg films from the 60's are absolutely unprintable even in BW, most of his films from other manufacturers of the same era are fine. How are yours holding out? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice)
Seems odd to me that the only one of nearly 600 subscribers complaining about this issue is you. Have you given any thought to the idea that maybe the problem is at your end? Bill - Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:11 AM Subject: OT: Email delivery problems with the PDML(was OT: Non-Microsoft browsers are most secure choice) Hi Doug, Well I have been using the internet since Telnet and IRC, some 20 years ago and all I can say is that there is something wrong with this list. Emails are clearly not getting through. I am not the only one to experience this. Instead of berating me for raising the issue, or blaming me for not addressing a message properly (something I have not done), it would be helpful if you would at leas say you will look into the issue, rather than making arrogant comments about Gatesian conspiracies - something neither I nor anyone else who is having problems has even mentioned. A.
Re: OT: Space Ship One
Nope, the bullet from a .50 caliber machine gun. Bill - Original Message - From: Steve Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:57 AM Subject: Re: OT: Space Ship One Hi Bob, A bullet from a .22-250 rifle? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 2:21 AM Subject: Re: OT: Space Ship One Hi, Thursday, July 1, 2004, 1:53:46 AM, Peter wrote: The Bell X-1 was based on the shape of a supersonic bullet. It was used because it was simple and the engineers knew it would travel faster than sound. Sometimes a technology can't be improved upon. Defeatism! Reminds me of the chief of the Patent Office in the USA who resigned just before Edison came along because there's nothing left to invent. What was the 1st man-made object to break the sound barrier? -- Cheers, Bob
Re: OT: Space Ship One
What was the 1st man-made object to break the sound barrier? -- Cheers, Bob I should have read the whole post before responding .50 caliber machine gun bullet. The first man-made object to break the sound barrier would probably be either a round ball from a muzzle loading rifle, or the tip of a whip. Bill
Re: OT; Spam attack
Well, the question now is, how did you like it? Bill - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: OT; Spam attack Big thanks to Bill Owens, who made this shot possible. http://www.oksne.net/paw/spam.html Cheers, Jostein -
Re: OT; Spam attack
IIRC it takes about 40 gallons of maple sap to make a gallon of syrup. Bill - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 2:40 PM Subject: Re: OT; Spam attack Again, you're a first, Jostein! I've never heard of anyone NOT liking real maple syrup! I grew up in one of the U.S.' most prolific states' producer of maple syrup (and other products...) -- Northern Ohio. Thing is, not ALL maple syrup is made the same. Far from it... If the only maple syrup anyone ever tasted was insufficiently boiled, it's got way too much water in it, and it needs more boiling. Cheap syrup is left watery, as they can get just as much money for the adulterated syrup as they can for the well-rendered syrup, so why put the extra effort into it? Making proper maple syrup takes time... Keith Whaley Knows his sugar maples! g Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The honey might have been good, but for a real taste treat, try it with REAL, 100% maple syrup -Paul Pardon me, Paul Yuck!! Please don't take it personally. Jostein
Re: Question: Minilab processing of digital files
Hi Joe. I have the same problem when i used the kiosk at a local Shoppers Drug Mart.They look ok,but not great.I had the colour space on the D2H set at Adobe RGB and the lab uses sRGB, The first photos I printed from my *ist D had a terrible cyan cast to them. At the time I had the camera color space set on Adobe RGB. Changing from the Adobe RGB to sRGB solved the problem and all prints since then have been fine. Also, FWIW, I can print 4x6 on the Frontier 375 cheaper than I can on my Epson inkjet. Wal-Mart is 0.24 per print, or 0.20 per print for 50 or more. Bill
Re: Question: Minilab processing of digital files
This presumes something that is in conflict with the original poster's question. The requirement is that the files go straight from the camera to the photolab. I don't know about Fuji, but Noritsu doesn't allow changing colour space (at least not on the machine I operate), and as far as I can tell, only recognizes sRGB William Robb The same appears to be true of Fuji machines. Bill
Re: *ist D survey
5706*** October Bill - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:40 AM Subject: Re: *ist D survey 5706*** November (replaced the original one I bought in September) Christian -Original Message- From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 18, 2004 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist D survey Hi all, In my effort of understanding (guessing?) something better about the *ist D, I'll ask all *ist D owners to post the main part of the serial No. of the camera they own, together with date of purchase. The two cameras I used and tested are both 5646*** (tested October 2003). Mine is 5512*** (bought April 2004), As you can notice, there's something odd in above figures, the higher ones beig apparently older than the lower one. Thanks to everyone who will kindly participate in this survey. Cheers, Dario Bonazza
Earl Grey, was: Re: OT: Wine (Hungarian, Romanian)
I recently had a cup of Earl Grey, hot, at a local restaurant, and not only did I use milk and sugar, but GASP... even added a few drops of lemon juice. Quite good actually. Bill I amused the canteen staff at breakfast on the Sunday morning - I took my big mug with me and while all and sundry were pouring coffee down their throats, I asked for some boiling water. Then in front of them I tossed in my Earl Grey teabag (yeah, I know, but needs must...) and asked one of the girls for some milk. A styrofoam cup the size of an oil drum, brimming with milk was duly handed back. No no my dear, just need some for the tea, I said. She smiled, blinding me with some expensive dental scaffolding. And I even had sugar in the tea - barbarian!
Re: Earl Grey, was: Re: OT: Wine (Hungarian, Romanian)
I recently had a cup of Earl Grey, hot, at a local restaurant, and not only did I use milk and sugar, but GASP... even added a few drops of lemon juice. Quite good actually. Bill Didn't the lemon juice curdle the milk? Butch (who likes my tea with lemon or orange juice and honey) No, surprisingly enough it didn't. Not a lot of milk and just a little lemon. I'll try some Earl Grey, hot, with honey tonight. Bill
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
fotokoch.org (beeing not the cheapest online shop) sells them both for 479,- Euro = 575,- USD. Cheers, Heiko WAY overpriced for the 18-35 which sells for ~$200.00 US here. Bill
Re: Question: Minilab processing of digital files
The Aladdin kiosk that is connected to our Fuji 375 does have the ability for the customer to edit the images before saving. It's almost as good as PS Elements, except that what you see on the screen may not be exactly what comes out on the print. If the techs working in the lab are worth a damn, they'll gladly help out in getting the settings correct. Bill - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: Question: Minilab processing of digital files Sometime soon, perhaps at Christmas, I will get my wife a digital point-and-shoot. She would not want to do image editing or printing, just take the SD card to a minilab. With most of my *ist D images, I have to use Photoshop's Auto Levels to get the image to the full light-level gamut. Otherwise the images are a bit muddy. My wife is not going to do this with her images. So I wonder: If you take unprocessed jpeg images on a CF or SD card to a minilab, does the machine perform something like Auto Levels? Or do the images just come out muddy? Wheatfield, Butch, or anyone? Thanks, Joe
Re: Steep Grade
And, that grade is indeed steep. The only place I have seen that a vehicle with an automatic transmission in low range will still accelerate with the engine in idle. Bill - Original Message - From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 9:11 PM Subject: RE: Steep Grade Hi Ann, Fantastic shot! I love the way the icons and symbols draw the eye around the image. Having both the cars in the gloom - one emerging and one leaving is perfect - did you plan that? Thanks for sharing Simon annsan writes: Here is one more - if I can get all my chorse done before I depart I'll do an HTML instead of the sep jpgs... http://users.rcn.com/annsan/steepgrade.jpg
Re: Analog vs digital by Herbert Keppler
IMO, Keppler failed to take advantage of the D's adjustable white balance. I seldom use AWB, and find the preset or manual settings much more accurate at color reproductions. Bill
Re: Film and Development
At our lab we still process considerably more film than digital prints, although our minilab is digital (Fuji Frontier 375). I would guess that close to half of the film we process though is from one time use cameras, which will probably keep 400 and 800 ISO films profitable for film makers for some time to come. Bill
Re: Film and Development
- Original Message - From: Robert Leigh Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Film and Development The enhanced look good very well be due to the person operating the machine. I quite often adjust the exposure on my customer's prints because of the limitations of most one time use and PS cameras. Many of their close ups of people are blown out due to the flash being too close to the subject. It's amazing how much 2 or 3 stops of darken can restore detail that appears to be lost. On the other hand, those shots where the subjects appear too dark, a little bit of brighten can sometimes bring out detail in shadows. I'm still learning the machine, so I'm sure I'll get better with more experience. Bill My lab is using Fuji Frontier exclusively because they aren't willing to expend resources maintaining their optical equipment. The Frontier is new and they get better contract support right now. I would guess that using the Frontier makes their life easier also??? For the most part I like the prints I get--good skin tones, etc. Occasionally I get prints in which overexposed background objects are enhanced' digitally so as to look fake or pasted in. Hope this makes sense to a professional film processor/developer like yourself. Robert
Re: GFM: Nature Photos
The bears were especially hard to shoot. They were moving around a lot. And they were very dark against bright/light grass. I'll be curious to see if anyone got some decent shots of them. (Don't think I've seen any on PDML yet. They were in the trees a lot.) Marnie aka Doe :-) Well, here's one begging for peanuts. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=82 Bill
Re: Attention GFM folks- Anyone win/place/show in photo contest?
Tell me one thing - did you ever turn any slide over to see who it was *before* finally deciding on a place? HAR! Judging must be the worst and the best job in the world! I can assure you they didn't. I was right in front of them and behind the light table. There were a few that we knew who shot them just from being familiar with the style of some of the regulars Bill
Re: pic
Bruce, where was that taken? Bill - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: GFM: pic Got back yesterday about 2:30 am and had to get to work early (no rest for the weary). I had a great time and it was so interesting to put faces to names. Many turned out to be different than I had imagined. All were wonderful and the event was great. I'll try to get pics up as I can. Here is the first of them: www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/imgp9437a.htm Taken with *istD, Sigma 18-50/3.5-5.6 DC, handheld at 1/180, f11. Comments welcome. Bruce
Re: pic
Okay, I know where Price Lake is, I just didn't recognize it in this photo. Bill - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: pic Obviously not on the mountain. If you get on the Blue Ridge Parkway just outside of Boone, you shortly come to what is called Price Lake. That is the location of this shot. Even though not right on the mountain, it is certainly part of the beautiful scenery of the area. I have quite a few shots along the parkway between Boone and GFM. I'll try to get them prepped and put up on the web. Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 3:18:20 PM, you wrote: BO Bruce, where was that taken? BO Bill BO - Original Message - BO From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] BO To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BO Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:23 PM BO Subject: GFM: pic Got back yesterday about 2:30 am and had to get to work early (no rest for the weary). I had a great time and it was so interesting to put faces to names. Many turned out to be different than I had imagined. All were wonderful and the event was great. I'll try to get pics up as I can. Here is the first of them: www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/imgp9437a.htm Taken with *istD, Sigma 18-50/3.5-5.6 DC, handheld at 1/180, f11. Comments welcome. Bruce
Re: pic
Good thing I reckon. I should have said I know where it is, not that I knew about it. Bill - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: Re: pic So, is that a good thing or a bad thing - not being able to recognize it? VBG Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 3:41:39 PM, you wrote: BO Okay, I know where Price Lake is, I just didn't recognize it in this photo. BO Bill BO - Original Message - BO From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] BO To: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] BO Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:36 PM BO Subject: Re: pic Obviously not on the mountain. If you get on the Blue Ridge Parkway just outside of Boone, you shortly come to what is called Price Lake. That is the location of this shot. Even though not right on the mountain, it is certainly part of the beautiful scenery of the area. I have quite a few shots along the parkway between Boone and GFM. I'll try to get them prepped and put up on the web. Bruce Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 3:18:20 PM, you wrote: BO Bruce, where was that taken? BO Bill BO - Original Message - BO From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] BO To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BO Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:23 PM BO Subject: GFM: pic Got back yesterday about 2:30 am and had to get to work early (no rest for the weary). I had a great time and it was so interesting to put faces to names. Many turned out to be different than I had imagined. All were wonderful and the event was great. I'll try to get pics up as I can. Here is the first of them: www.daytonphoto.com/Galleries/gfm/imgp9437a.htm Taken with *istD, Sigma 18-50/3.5-5.6 DC, handheld at 1/180, f11. Comments welcome. Bruce
Re: Papa-D
Most of my night time flash shots on GFM were made w/o autofocus assist. Although it sometime took awhile, the *ist D focused in near total darkness. Bill - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Papa-D I've never used the P.-1P but I do use only the central sensor on the *istD. I've heard that the P.-1P had a AF bigger motor, so it could very well be faster. The central sensor of the *istD is a cross sensor, however, so that should mean less camera titling. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/04 05:25PM Got it, John. Thanks. As for autofocus: For my purposes (emphasis) the *ist D's autofocus is far inferior to that of the PZ-1p. Joe
Re: My favorite GFM photo
Hi, Bill, Why does the picture look like it's taken out of Shrek 2? :-) It does give me a feeling of a computer generated image. Too sharp? Too clean? Too vivid? I'm sure if some of the grass is withering brown instead of lush green, I will feel differently. Looks like I'm more accustomed to harsher confines than the eden that is GFM in early June. Yefei You must be accustomed to harsher confines. The grass was really about that green, especially after rain. Bill
Back home again
Just got home from a fantastic weekend with PDML'ers on Grandfather Mountain. There will be more later (we're exhausted) and I'm sure over the next few days more attendees will be signing on with comments. We have to unpack, but here is a link to yesterday's group photo. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=80 Bill
Re: Almost done
If I were a North Carolinian instead of a Virginian, I would have a large piece of plastic to line the truck bed and turn it into a pool. Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: Re: Almost done http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw? action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=79 Be a darling, Bill. Bring the pool :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: OT? - Processing C41
Identical for all C-41 films. Bill - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: OT? - Processing C41 Do all C41 films require identical processing, or might Kodak require different times than, for example, Fuji, or perhaps different machine settings. The question is directed solely to processing the film, not printing. Shel
Re: Baltimore -- In transit to GFM
- Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Baltimore -- In transit to GFM Wish I'd known you were going to the inner harbor at Baltimore. Phillips Seafood Restaurant has the best crab cakes in the world. Bill
Running out of room!
I'm rapidly running out of room in the bed of my short bed pickup. 4 folding chairs, portable hammock, grill, 2 coolers and I still have to load groceries, clothes, bedding supplies for our guests. The camera bag(s), tripod, monopod, printer, boombox, laptop, umbrella, etc I hope to fit into the seat and floor in the cab with me. Hope to arrive around noon Wednesday. Bill
Re: GFM coming together
The picnic area (where we camp) is nowhere near the top of Grandfather. Not even remotely scary to drive there. You haven't seen me behind the wheel On the wrong side of the bleedin' road, no less. :-) Sides? Who said anything about sides? Treat the painted lines as derisory, the warning signs with outright abandon, and traffic lights as advisory.. Sounds like you have a history of driving in North Carolina. Folks around here take their half of the road out of the middle. (I'm a Virginian and proud of it.) Bill
Re: GFM coming together
I used to take a bunch of stuff and often couldn't decide which to use. This year it's the*ist D with assorted lenses from 16mm to 500mm, the Optio S and the Yashica Samurai. Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:28 PM Subject: Re: GFM coming together In a message dated 6/1/2004 1:23:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since others brought it up... Look at http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/gfm.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=909 BONKERS :-) Cheers, Cotty Yeah, I think when it comes to which is bigger :-), he has Mark beat. Marnie aka Doe How much of this stuff will these guys use?
Re: In transit to GFM -- Some pics online.
Marnie aka Doe ;-) Personally, I never eat the stuff and I don't know anyone who does. Now you know someone who eats it. 8-). The smoked variety is pretty good fried until it's crisp. I'll bring some to GFM. Bill
Almost done
Almost done packing except for the items to join me in the truck cab. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=79 http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=78 Bill
Re: In transit to GFM -- Some pics online.
It's okay to write a song, but promise you won't sing 8-) Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:22 PM Subject: Re: In transit to GFM -- Some pics online. On 1/6/04, BILL, discombobulated, offered: Now you know someone who eats it. 8-). The smoked variety is pretty good fried until it's crisp. I'll bring some to GFM. Oh God, I feel a song coming on. I'll have to print the words off now and bring half a dozen copies. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: GFM coming together
36 hours to go, 36 hours to go, and my pile of junk is getting big! Raised glass to the PDML. I hope to be there and set up in about 21 hours. I'll raise a cup of each brew to all of you then. Bill
Re: Newbie to the list
Hey John, Welcome to the list. Where in NC are you. I'm in Gastonia. Bill - Original Message - From: Jon M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:00 PM Subject: Newbie to the list Hey y'all! Just thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Jon, and I'm a Pentax enthusiast from North Carolina, USA. I got started with a K1000, and have recently aquired (super cheap) an A3000. My current selection of glass is as follows: SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1:2 Sears 80mm-200mm 1:4 Vivitar 24mm-48mm 1:3.8 (rarely used, wobbles and is clunky-huge!) I've been considering the SMC Pentax-A 35mm-70mm 3.5-4.5 macro as my next lens purchase, partly to replace the Vivitar lens. Any thoughts about this lens, or suggestions for something better? What I want is something that'll do for most purposes, so I'm not constantly switching from one lens to another. As for what type of photography I do, I take pictures of whatever catches my eye, be it mountains, the sea, a road, or a critter of some variety. I don't have much online, tho I do have this shot of the Blue Ridge Parkway: http://jon.beigetower.org/photo.html Happy Pentax-ing. :) -Jon. __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: GFM weather
City folk! Sunrise down here was 6:11am today. It will be a few minutes earlier in a week, plus it is even earlier (probably about 5:30am) on top the mountain (horizon is lower). So you better start practicing getting up at 4:30am. I just remembered why I like shooting people so much... Sleeping is much more fun than watching a sunrise. Bill
GFM coming together
When I started talking up the GFM NPW last year, I had no idea it would turn out as well as it has. Tanya is already in the US, Jostein, and I would guess, Adelheid are on their way. The homebrew is iced down in the cooler and a taste test of each variety seems okay. Counting regulars and lurkers, looks like somewhere between 20 and 30 PDML'ers will be together in less than a week. I'm looking forward to meeting all of the newcomers and getting reacquainted with the regulars. Bill
Re: OT - Music on the Road
Neither of our vehicles has a CD player, but I play my CD's using a portable CD player and an adapter for the cassette player in both vehicles. Bill Hi Gang Call me slow, but I just discovered how easy it is to copy CD's to the hard drive using the Win Media Player. It's pretty much all automatic, and it astounds me how much info is on the disk. This opens the door to copying music to some sort of portable device for use in the car and while travelling. What sorts of devices, apart from an iPod, can be used for this purpose? Does MP3 or MP4 (that's the format, right?) sound pretty good compared to a home system or a good sound system on the computer? What do you do for speakers on the road? Thanks for any help or suggestions. Shel Belinkoff -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Speaking of music....GFM
I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul and Mary amongst others. Bill
Re: Will I ever use my MX again?
Hey Steve, I have a few screw mount lenses that I'll try to remember to bring if you want some extras. Bill - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Will I ever use my MX again? I feel your pain. Since I only shoot color, I find that the whole digital approach is a better fit for me. Digital better fits my strengths and weaknesses, and because of that I get better photos using my *istD than my MZ-S. Film has advantages, but I don't do the kind of photography that takes advantage of them. Actually, part of me is tempted to take my SP500 to G.M. and use that for the photo contest, just for old times sake. I'd be restricted to a 55 mm lens, but hey, that's part of the fun. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speaking of music....GFM
Not if you what you mean old fashioned is what I think you mean. Bill - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Speaking of musicGFM Bill Owens wrote: I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul and Mary amongst others. Bill Bill, do you have an actual old fashioned cassette player??? ann
Re: tan is a dickhead...
You will be welcome to use my *ist D cable (if I know where it is) on GFM. I use only a card reader and CF cards. Bill - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:46 PM Subject: tan is a dickhead... yes, i am! here i was thinking i was little miss organised, finally got myself set up in my hotel room, here in LA, got online, organised my clothing/suitcases etc and then thought i'll go and update my online travel journal and download some of the pics i have in my camera... Anyone hazard a guess at what I left behind in Australia? Yep, that's right, my *istD USB cable!! Then I had another brainwave and thought, oh, its ok, I have a pcmcia card reader in my lappy - but of course, tan has been using only the 4gb hitachi microdrive and it won't fit in the pcmcia card!! g! So, my poor kids aren't going to be able to see any pics of me until I get my hands on a cable. Anyone have a spare that they will be bringing to GFM? tan.
Re: Locating PDML Central
You can check it yourself at: http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/obsForecast.asp?id=LINVLobs=brief Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:59 AM Subject: Re: Locating PDML Central On 25/5/04, BILL, discombobulated, offered: For those coming to GFM, we'll be easy to find. Come up the entrance road about 1/4 mile to the picnic area and turn right. PDML Central should be in the first site on the left. Look for the Fujifilm blimp. Tell you what would be really useful Bill, the evening before you set off, if you could post a weather forecast with expected day and night temps, that would be great. If it appears to be unseasonally cold or warm I will pack accordingly. Thanks Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: GFM weather
Oh yes, the record wind speed on the summit is 194 mph. Bill - Original Message - From: David Sprinkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:34 AM Subject: Re: GFM weather Bill, Is the wind speed correct: 45 mph with gusts to 60 mph??? Dave Bill Owens wrote: For anyone who may be interested, the current weather conditions at the summit of Grandfather Mountain are available at: http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/single_site.asp?id=LINVL Bill
Re: PAW - Exhausted
I'll tell you next Thursday. Bill I would ask what exactly is puckering, but I don't think I want to know... -frank
Re: GFM weather
Unless there have been higher speeds recorded in the last 6 months, GFM record is 194. Bill - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:34 PM Subject: Re: GFM weather I believe you're wrong - my memory says 231mph is the record. Oh yes, the record wind speed on the summit is 194 mph. Bill - Original Message - From: David Sprinkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:34 AM Subject: Re: GFM weather Bill, Is the wind speed correct: 45 mph with gusts to 60 mph??? Dave Bill Owens wrote: For anyone who may be interested, the current weather conditions at the summit of Grandfather Mountain are available at: http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/single_site.asp?id=LINVL Bill
Re: Ping from new mail address
Bill, I'll be connecting through my GSM cellphone. Graywolf warned about poor coverage in the GFM area, so I don't know how well I can do... A move of 5 or 6 feet can make all the difference in the world on the mountain Any chance of hooking up to a LAN at GFM? :-) Not likely Bill
Re: June 3rd PDML Meeting
Hope you make it Thursday. It would be nice to have some great fellowship before the NPW starts. Bill - Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:35 PM Subject: RE: June 3rd PDML Meeting Bill, I plan on being on GFMtn on Thursday as well. I may hitch a ride with Cory from Atlanta... so it will depend on him. Or, if I go solo - I will be there in the early morning - unless I visit friends outside of Atlanta. I will keep you informed, César Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:43 PM Thanks but no thanks. Don, Frank, Mark, Annsan and myself will be drinking in the peace and quiet on GFM that evening. Bill - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cesar Matamoros (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Christian Skofteland (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Net (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ed Mathews (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoff Moes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mark Lindamood (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Paul Stregevsky (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stephen Moore (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Steve Desjardins (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:16 PM Subject: June 3rd PDML Meeting We'll have both Cotty and Tan in DC on June 3rd and we're planning to do dinner at Marrakesh - http://www.marrakeshwashington.com/ If you've never eaten bastilla with your fingers you don't know what you're missing...I need to make a reservation, so if you plan to come let me know! tv
Re: June 3rd PDML Meeting
BTW, we'll have one large tent and one small one, plus a couple of air mattresses if you need them. No sleeping bags, blankets or pillows though. Bill - Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:35 PM Subject: RE: June 3rd PDML Meeting Bill, I plan on being on GFMtn on Thursday as well. I may hitch a ride with Cory from Atlanta... so it will depend on him. Or, if I go solo - I will be there in the early morning - unless I visit friends outside of Atlanta. I will keep you informed, César Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:43 PM Thanks but no thanks. Don, Frank, Mark, Annsan and myself will be drinking in the peace and quiet on GFM that evening. Bill - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cesar Matamoros (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Christian Skofteland (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Net (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ed Mathews (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoff Moes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mark Lindamood (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Paul Stregevsky (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stephen Moore (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Steve Desjardins (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:16 PM Subject: June 3rd PDML Meeting We'll have both Cotty and Tan in DC on June 3rd and we're planning to do dinner at Marrakesh - http://www.marrakeshwashington.com/ If you've never eaten bastilla with your fingers you don't know what you're missing...I need to make a reservation, so if you plan to come let me know! tv
GFM weather
For anyone who may be interested, the current weather conditions at the summit of Grandfather Mountain are available at: http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/single_site.asp?id=LINVL Bill
Re: June 3rd PDML Meeting
Add Steve, Debbie and probably the List Guy. We will also be drinking more than the peace and quiet Bill - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: Re: June 3rd PDML Meeting As soon as I can get Annsan there, anyway . . . ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/21/04 07:43PM Thanks but no thanks. Don, Frank, Mark, Annsan and myself will be drinking in the peace and quiet on GFM that evening. Bill - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cesar Matamoros (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Christian Skofteland (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Net (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ed Mathews (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoff Moes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mark Lindamood (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Paul Stregevsky (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stephen Moore (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Steve Desjardins (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:16 PM Subject: June 3rd PDML Meeting We'll have both Cotty and Tan in DC on June 3rd and we're planning to do dinner at Marrakesh - http://www.marrakeshwashington.com/ If you've never eaten bastilla with your fingers you don't know what you're missing...I need to make a reservation, so if you plan to come let me know! tv
Re: how to identify the GFM attendees
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correction about César: he'll be driving a convertible, *towing* a large trailer full of Pentax gear. A convertible with the top down. In 40 degree* weather. ;-) And trying to evade North Carolina State troopers 8-) Bill
Re: GFM -- changed plans
We hate to miss you, but family is priority #1. Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 3:07 AM Subject: RE: GFM -- changed plans Tanja posted: huh?!?!? That simply is NOT allowed! No way!! What about bringing your kids etc? I was hoping for more GIRL POWER!! :-( I really wanted to meet the whole crowd, but my father is scheduled to have surgery and we felt that my parents' need for our presence should have priority. ERN
They came back
The barn swallows returned last night and again tonight to roost on our front porch. I ended up getting a fairly good shot last night. *ist D, Tamron 75-300 and AF360FGZ flash. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=77 Bill
OT Frontier 375 minilab
I've had the privilege of working with this machine for a couple of weeks now, and the more I use it the more impressed I become. It's nearly as good as Photoshop for correcting levels and colors. Many of our customer's films were shot under fluorescent lighting and it's quite easy to add magenta to kill most of the color cast from them. Bill
Re: June 3rd PDML Meeting
Thanks but no thanks. Don, Frank, Mark, Annsan and myself will be drinking in the peace and quiet on GFM that evening. Bill - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cesar Matamoros (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Christian Skofteland (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Net (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ed Mathews (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoff Moes [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mark Lindamood (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Paul Stregevsky (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stephen Moore (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Steve Desjardins (E-mail)' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 6:16 PM Subject: June 3rd PDML Meeting We'll have both Cotty and Tan in DC on June 3rd and we're planning to do dinner at Marrakesh - http://www.marrakeshwashington.com/ If you've never eaten bastilla with your fingers you don't know what you're missing...I need to make a reservation, so if you plan to come let me know! tv
Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME?
Please Lord, let this thread die! Bill - Original Message - From: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Anyone still using WIndows ME? On Wed, 19 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But sometimes, yes, this list has a herd instinct. Any group does. ANY group. Well, I don't agree. I've seen herds form many a times on mailing lists, but I don't hink they are herds per se. I think everyone responds indivudually to a controversial post. I.e. no-one looks at each other to get cues on what to do or say. It may appear like a coordinated effort from the outside, but it's not. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
Re: Future Practicality of Film
SLRs won't keep film alive. The PS user is the real consumer, and at the moment, their trend is to digital. Them and the one time use cameras Bill
Re: Anyone still using windows ME
- Original Message - From: Antonio Aparicio Subject: Re: Anyone still using windows ME What happened, did I run into a room full of Microsoft shareholders or something? All I said was that Windows was a substandard operating system and that it was riddled with viruses and spyware and that we the users deserved better, especially given the money the company makes. If you're so dissatisfied, invent an operating system to replace it. Bill
Re: Future Practicality of Film
Mornin' Shel You may have a point when it comes to enthusiasts like many on the list. However, for the average consumer digital is becoming easier and easier. For example, a couple of weeks ago I shot some wedding candids. I was able to take my CF card to Wal-Mart, insert it in the Aladdin scanner, pick out the images I wanted printed, and less than an hour later I had 113 4x6 prints in hand for $27.12. That's the equivalent of about 5 24 exposure rolls of film (which is what Joe Sixpack shoots) for less than the cost of film and processing. Bill - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Future Practicality of Film Hi, Tom ... My comment about film slumping and having a resurgence is based, in part, on how vinyl records and turntables disappeared but have recently come back. IOWA, after the newness of digital wears off, a number of people will come back to film for any number of reasons. Of course, predicting the future, one way or another, is, to a degree, folly. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/18/2004 9:00:18 AM Subject: Re: Future Practicality of Film Shel I understand your point of view, but probably disagree a bit. I can't see film going through a slump and then returning to some appreciable level like the stock market. I think it will just slump and slump until it's off the radar of all but the most diehard users.
Re: Future Practicality of Film
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Future Practicality of Film Hi, Tom ... My comment about film slumping and having a resurgence is based, in part, on how vinyl records and turntables disappeared but have recently come back. IOWA, after the newness of digital wears off, a number of people will come back to film for any number of reasons. Of course, predicting the future, one way or another, is, to a degree, folly. Shel Belinkoff [Original Message] From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/18/2004 9:00:18 AM Subject: Re: Future Practicality of Film Shel I understand your point of view, but probably disagree a bit. I can't see film going through a slump and then returning to some appreciable level like the stock market. I think it will just slump and slump until it's off the radar of all but the most diehard users.
Re: Starting to Run into Big Bucks
There will be many lenses for you to borrow and use, no need to buy a bunch of new ones. We also will have a large tent available if you want to forego the cost of a motel room. A couple of air mattresses too, but no extra sleeping bags or pillows. Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: GFM: Starting to Run into Big Bucks Well, I was planning to spend money on the motel room and plane flight. Then I got an Image Tank (I'll use it other times, but GFM pushed me that way). Then someone suggested to me I get some lighter weight lenses, because I don't like lugging stuff around. Usually I go out with one lens on the camera to shoot. But at GFM I figured I'd want about three, and one or two are pretty heavy. So I started looking at lighter weight lenses. (The Sigma 18-50/55-200 digital lens kit.) Then a camera fanny pack. Then... I need a TSA lock for my suitcase. And maybe a new suitcase because I don't think most of suitcases will take an extra lock. So I started looking at both of those... Then... ENOUGH! HALT! This is only a three day conference after all! LOL! I don't need to be THAT enabled! I'll come with what I have, though I might get a cheapish fanny pack. Anyone having the same experience? Marnie aka Doe ;-) Hehehe.
Re: Antonio please stop it now!
Long time since we heard from you. How's Aaron doing? Bill - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Antonio please stop it now! WHAT!? WHO!? WHERE!? WHAT WAS THAT!? From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pray also that you don't wake up another Bob.
Re: Starting to Run into Big Bucks
Anything we're not using gets locked in a vehicle. Especially so this year since PDML Central will be full at night. Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: Re: Starting to Run into Big Bucks In a message dated 5/18/2004 11:38:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We also will have a large tent available if you want to forego the cost of a motel room. A couple of air mattresses too, but no extra sleeping bags or pillows. Bill --- Well, room is already booked. And I am looking forward to having a room for various reasons. But since you mention the tent... I have been wondering Bill... there's really no place to park anything, is there? Like bring a fanny pack and park my bigger camera bag somewhere? Because there's no way to lock anything up, right? Marnie aka Doe
Re: photo opinion wanted
Take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I would like it better if the legs weren't cut off. Bill - Original Message - From: Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:14 PM Subject: photo opinion wanted This was shot at the National Zoo yesterday. It is the full frame. Good? Bad? indifferent? What could be improved? http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/flamingo_imgp2041.jpg As always, thank you. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Different Tastes
Frank and Cesar are going to try and outdo each other at GFM. They both shoot with similar styles. Bill - Original Message - From: Mark Dalal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: Re: Different Tastes From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] A fun grab in a candy shop: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2369082 Definitely a fun grab. Good show Frank! Mark
Re: OT: More GFM Planning
You can shoot with my *ist D some starting on your arrival on Thursday. We'll download your shots to my laptop, convert to BW and print a few. Bill - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: Re: OT: More GFM Planning Good. You shoot with the Super Programme, and I can play with your *ist D. This will be the weekend that I'm finally converted to digital. not cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: More GFM Planning Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:49:28 -0400 Don't worry Frank. my Super Program still has some Tri-X loaded. And I've got more where that came from... _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
