Re: Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii
I’d buy one and put black tape over the logo. > On 26 Mar 2022, at 19:36, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 24.03.22 um 23:26 schrieb John Francis: > >> I'd be a little afraid that the only response when I pushed the >> shutter release... > Such special editions aren't meant for taking photos. > > Just like their equivalents from Leica, Rollei etc. they'll be unpacked > with white gloves and go straight into collectors' glass cabinets, not > to be touched again before they're disposed of by their heirs. > > Nothing wrong with that as long as Ricoh make money with them. So, churn > them out in neon green, candy red and piggy pink if it helps to make > decent cameras for the rest of us. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii
Am 24.03.22 um 23:26 schrieb John Francis: I'd be a little afraid that the only response when I pushed the shutter release... Such special editions aren't meant for taking photos. Just like their equivalents from Leica, Rollei etc. they'll be unpacked with white gloves and go straight into collectors' glass cabinets, not to be touched again before they're disposed of by their heirs. Nothing wrong with that as long as Ricoh make money with them. So, churn them out in neon green, candy red and piggy pink if it helps to make decent cameras for the rest of us. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii
That's weird. On 3/24/2022 3:23 PM, Darren Addy wrote: https://petapixel.com/2022/03/23/ricoh-is-crowdfunding-a-jet-black-limited-edition-k-3-mark-iii-in-japan/ -- Vivere in aeternum aut mori conatur -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii
Too late for the PUG. Alan C On 25-Mar-22 10:18 AM, mike wilson wrote: And the mirror and prism faces I have it! It's the first phase of a set of machines to produce photos in the style of Mondrian. Buy the whole set to experience the full effect. Look out for the primary colour trio and the arctic white model; coming soon. On 25 March 2022 at 07:47 Alan C wrote: Perhaps the screens have black backgrounds too? Alan? On 25-Mar-22 08:09 AM, mike wilson wrote: On 24 March 2022 at 19:23 Darren Addy wrote: https://petapixel.com/2022/03/23/ricoh-is-crowdfunding-a-jet-black-limited-edition-k-3-mark-iii-in-japan/ A triumph of (dis)appearance over functionality. 0% takeup so far. Colour me jet-black astonished. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 01:01:00PM -0700, l...@red4est.com wrote: > That would be perfect for photographing a Disaster Area concert. I'd be a little afraid that the only response when I pushed the shutter release would be a little message that appeared in the iviewfinder that said "Please do not press that button again" -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii
That would be perfect for photographing a Disaster Area concert. On March 24, 2022 12:23:41 PM PDT, Darren Addy wrote: >https://petapixel.com/2022/03/23/ricoh-is-crowdfunding-a-jet-black-limited-edition-k-3-mark-iii-in-japan/ > >-- >“The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” >― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii
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Re: Limited
I like standard lenses, I don't have much use for medium wide angles. bill On Sat., Jul. 31, 2021, 9:22 p.m. , wrote: > > > On July 31, 2021 7:35:46 PM PDT, Bill wrote: > >It's quite a nice standard lens on APS-C. I don't like the full frame > angle > >of view that much. > > Funny, I didn't like it as well on aps as I do on full frame. > > > > >bill > > > >On Sat., Jul. 31, 2021, 3:35 p.m. , wrote: > > > >> Went to a local camera store today. They’ve got a black 31/1.8. $650. I > >> drooled a little, but not on the lens. The first one I’ve ever touched. > >> -- > >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > >-- > >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Limited
On July 31, 2021 7:35:46 PM PDT, Bill wrote: >It's quite a nice standard lens on APS-C. I don't like the full frame angle >of view that much. Funny, I didn't like it as well on aps as I do on full frame. > >bill > >On Sat., Jul. 31, 2021, 3:35 p.m. , wrote: > >> Went to a local camera store today. They’ve got a black 31/1.8. $650. I >> drooled a little, but not on the lens. The first one I’ve ever touched. >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Limited
It's quite a nice standard lens on APS-C. I don't like the full frame angle of view that much. bill On Sat., Jul. 31, 2021, 3:35 p.m. , wrote: > Went to a local camera store today. They’ve got a black 31/1.8. $650. I > drooled a little, but not on the lens. The first one I’ve ever touched. > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Limited
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New 21mm Limited. Was about the APS-C flagship.
On 5/15/2020 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On May 15, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Bill wrote: The APS-C camera is nice, but the 21mm LTD looks like it will be pretty spectacular. It has the integrated sunshade of the FA 31 that I hate so much. I also notice that they didn’t mention the max aperture. I also hate the integrated lens shade :( The front element looks too small for it to be a 2.8 (I have the FA 20mm f/2.8) so I'm betting it'll be f/4.0 If they are fully buying into the Limited cult, it will be an oddball number, 3.7 or something like that. Given that it is a 21mm, it's very possible they will get it closer to f2.8. Remember, the Limited lenses aren't about speed, they are about being little jewelry lenses with "special" optical properties. The D FA* lenses are the ones that are all about big apertures and who cares about the size. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
TRADE: My (mint) silver FA 77mm f1.8 Limited for your DA* 200mm
I realize that I could (with perhaps a bit of patience) sell my Silver 77mm Limited with more than enough to purchase an excellent DA* 200mm f2.8, but with the ebay/paypal fees and hassles of listing (etc) I thought I would try a direct approach... Let me know if you are interested in a trade, straight up. Can supply pics of my lens, but it is truly like new with the original metal cap and Pentax drawstring pouch. Will trade for a similar condition DA* 200mm f2.8 with hood & caps. Respectfully, Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- “The Earth is Art, The Photographer is only a Witness ” ― Yann Arthus-Bertrand, Earth from Above -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
On 12/26/2016 4:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Ricoh could do wonders for their lens lineup if they just made a deal with Samyang to produce weather sealed auto-focus versions of some of the Samyang primes (85/1.4, 24/1.4 ...) It would be nice. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
John wrote: Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late Christmas present. How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" it in Camera Raw. An alternative might be the Pentax HD PENTAX-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR, which would have roughly the same field of view on the K1 as my Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC has on the K3. The Sigma vignettes like shooting through a port-hole from across the room on the K1. The only problem is the 15-30mm f/2.8 costs 3 times as much as the 15 f/4. That, and the 15-30 is huge lump of solid glass. However, for me, that lens nearly represents the point of getting a K-1. The ability to have a fast, wide weather sealed system. Optically, I'm quite happy with the 15-30, although things do get a bit weird around the edges of the frame at the wide end. Another lens that works well on the K-1 particularly for landscape work, albeit manual focus, is the Samyang 24/1.4. I've seen several articles claiming it to be one of the best, if not the best, astro-landscape lenses available. I agree with Mark on the need for weather sealed primes for the K-1. I'd think that it would be fairly simple to take the optical design of existing lenses and just make weather sealed versions. Ricoh could do wonders for their lens lineup if they just made a deal with Samyang to produce weather sealed auto-focus versions of some of the Samyang primes (85/1.4, 24/1.4 ...) -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 12:42:00 -0500, you wrote: > Weathe rsealing and decent all around quality kind of make it a no brainer. I really wish someone made a weather-sealed ultra-wide prime for the K-1. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
If I were to buy a K-1 I think a 15-30 would be a must have. Weather sealing and decent all around quality kind of make it a no brainer. That does make a k-1 a lot more expensive though and is why I have held off on buying one. I'll just make due with my 12-24 that seems to have picked up slightly more field curvature than I remember when japan fixed it. Or maybe it just did better on a K-5 when I last had it working? I just stop it down and its ok for the most part if I focus it correctly. It's still probably better in the corners than the 15ltd at 15mm.. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
Here are some more things to think about. There is also the laowa 15mm that is supposedly a strong performer. It is also a macro lens and has some tilt capability. It's $500 at B&H. Kind of a bargain considering what you can do with it. They have a 12mm/2.8 (!) coming as well they are claiming as zero distortion. It seems to mostly live up to the claim too! I am guessing that might list a bit more, but I can't remember if they have indicated a price yet. Those seem like the best cheaper primes for the money currently. There is also a new company called Irix that is making a variety of wide angle primes that are slightly more expensive. They also seem to perform well, but I haven't seen much on them yet. They are all however, full on manual with not even so much as aperture information, so be ready for that. The samyang is also well regarded but not pefect by any means. I cannot remember, but they might have an aperture toggle on the samyang lenses. At any rate it doesn't really matter so much with a wide angle. Just focus and stop down and learn to count clicks. Done. You could easily shoot aperture priority that way like any m42 lens. I don't think there is much to knock on the 15-30, but I would imagine a prime to have better performance/weight/etc. Of course a prime would only cover one focal length though. The 15ltd I believe does not have an image circle that covers FF by any means. Given its edge performance on aps-c I wouldn't expect that to look great past the aps-c sensor either. On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:57 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > John, you should look into the Samyang 14mm f2.8. It's available in K > mount, full frame and for what it is, very inexpensive. It's manual focus, > but at f5.6 setting focus at about 30 feet should give acceptable in focus > from about 5-6 feet to infinity. Even at f 2.8 you can get acceptable focus > from about 9 feet to infinity. Reviews are all very complementary, > comparing it to the Zeise MF lenses as far as image quality. Build, is > another story, but they're not horrible. The only real disadvantage > compared to the Pentax DA 15 I can see is size. They look to be about the > same size as, or maybe marginally smaller than the A 15mm f3.5. > > > On 12/25/2016 6:18 PM, John wrote: >> >> Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late >> Christmas present. >> >> How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" >> it in Camera Raw. >> >> An alternative might be the Pentax HD PENTAX-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM >> WR, which would have roughly the same field of view on the K1 as my >> Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC has on the K3. The Sigma vignettes like >> shooting through a port-hole from across the room on the K1. >> >> The only problem is the 15-30mm f/2.8 costs 3 times as much as the 15 f/4. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
John, you should look into the Samyang 14mm f2.8. It's available in K mount, full frame and for what it is, very inexpensive. It's manual focus, but at f5.6 setting focus at about 30 feet should give acceptable in focus from about 5-6 feet to infinity. Even at f 2.8 you can get acceptable focus from about 9 feet to infinity. Reviews are all very complementary, comparing it to the Zeise MF lenses as far as image quality. Build, is another story, but they're not horrible. The only real disadvantage compared to the Pentax DA 15 I can see is size. They look to be about the same size as, or maybe marginally smaller than the A 15mm f3.5. On 12/25/2016 6:18 PM, John wrote: Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late Christmas present. How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" it in Camera Raw. An alternative might be the Pentax HD PENTAX-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR, which would have roughly the same field of view on the K1 as my Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC has on the K3. The Sigma vignettes like shooting through a port-hole from across the room on the K1. The only problem is the 15-30mm f/2.8 costs 3 times as much as the 15 f/4. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
On 12/25/2016 8:50 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:14 -0500, you wrote: Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late Christmas present. How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" it in Camera Raw. Given the enormous size difference between the DA 15 Ltd and a full-frame 15mm I would expect the Limited to vignette massively. The A series has at least a stop of fall off at the corners as well. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
On 12/25/2016 9:50 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:14 -0500, you wrote: Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late Christmas present. How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" it in Camera Raw. Given the enormous size difference between the DA 15 Ltd and a full-frame 15mm I would expect the Limited to vignette massively. Drat! The new HD PENTAX-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 costs three times as much. Can't do that just now. KEH has a couple of 15mm f/4 on offer that I could probably afford, but I don't want to buy anything that won't work with the K1. Oh well, if I start saving pennies now, Christmas in July may come early. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
On Sun, 25 Dec 2016 18:18:14 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late >Christmas present. > >How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" >it in Camera Raw. Given the enormous size difference between the DA 15 Ltd and a full-frame 15mm I would expect the Limited to vignette massively. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
I haven't tried the DA 15 on the K1, but I would expect it to vignette significantly. The DA 12-24 vignettes to a great degree. The D FA 15-30 is a superb lens. Paul via phone > On Dec 25, 2016, at 6:18 PM, John wrote: > > Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late > Christmas present. > > How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" > it in Camera Raw. > > An alternative might be the Pentax HD PENTAX-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM > WR, which would have roughly the same field of view on the K1 as my > Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC has on the K3. The Sigma vignettes like > shooting through a port-hole from across the room on the K1. > > The only problem is the 15-30mm f/2.8 costs 3 times as much as the 15 f/4. > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax 15mm F/4 SMC DA ED AL Limited
Anyone try this on a K1 yet? I'm considering getting myself a late Christmas present. How badly does it vignette? If it's not too bad, I could probably "fix" it in Camera Raw. An alternative might be the Pentax HD PENTAX-D FA 15-30mm f/2.8 ED SDM WR, which would have roughly the same field of view on the K1 as my Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC has on the K3. The Sigma vignettes like shooting through a port-hole from across the room on the K1. The only problem is the 15-30mm f/2.8 costs 3 times as much as the 15 f/4. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
> On 02 December 2016 at 21:41 Mark Roberts wrote: > > > So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains > in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of > keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft) > and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human > presence; they were obviously looking for food and had learned humans > were only too happy to provide it in many cases. > Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd, > ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8 > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg > That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height. > > And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg > Oh dear. More expense in my near future. Time to start hiding the bank statements, again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
Wow. You must have really sharp birds. - Marco > On Dec 3, 2016, at 3:03 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Nice detail! > > J > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >> Excellent! Those birds are well trained! Mine lose it if I breathe from 30 >> feet away. >> >> Paul via phone >> >>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> >>> K-1 + FA77 is a damned hard combination to beat at what it is good at. >>> >>> Mark Roberts wrote: So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft) >>> >>> Heh, in the Beigh Arya we have a Mt. Tam. >>> and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human presence; they were obviously looking for food and had learned humans were only too happy to provide it in many cases. Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd, ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg >>> >>> Impressive on many axis. On my monitor it looks a bit dark,(2/3-1 stop >>> under?) is my monitor dialed up too bright? or is that an artistic choice >>> of yours to show that it was a dark and dreary day. >>> That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height. And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg >>> >>> That's even more impressive up close. >>> >>> Excellent work. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
Paul Stenquist wrote: >Excellent! Those birds are well trained! Mine lose it if I breathe from 30 >feet away. There was a pair that followed us about a quarter of a mile down from the top of the mountain. They literally ate out of the palms of our hands. The one in the photo is a smaller one we saw a little later. Oh, and Lisa informs me it's a Gray Jay, not a Chickadee. >>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg >>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
wow On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains > in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of > keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft) > and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human > presence; they were obviously looking for food and had learned humans > were only too happy to provide it in many cases. > Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd, > ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8 > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg > That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height. > > And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. > http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
Nice detail! J Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Excellent! Those birds are well trained! Mine lose it if I breathe from 30 > feet away. > > Paul via phone > >> On Dec 2, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> K-1 + FA77 is a damned hard combination to beat at what it is good at. >> >> Mark Roberts wrote: >>> So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains >>> in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of >>> keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft) >> >> Heh, in the Beigh Arya we have a Mt. Tam. >> >>> and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human >>> presence; they were obviously looking for food and had learned humans >>> were only too happy to provide it in many cases. >>> Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd, >>> ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8 >>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg >> >> Impressive on many axis. On my monitor it looks a bit dark,(2/3-1 stop >> under?) is my monitor dialed up too bright? or is that an artistic choice of >> yours to show that it was a dark and dreary day. >> >>> That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height. >>> >>> And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. >>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg >> >> That's even more impressive up close. >> >> Excellent work. >> >>> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
Excellent! Those birds are well trained! Mine lose it if I breathe from 30 feet away. Paul via phone > On Dec 2, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > K-1 + FA77 is a damned hard combination to beat at what it is good at. > > Mark Roberts wrote: >> So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains >> in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of >> keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft) > > Heh, in the Beigh Arya we have a Mt. Tam. > >> and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human >> presence; they were obviously looking for food and had learned humans >> were only too happy to provide it in many cases. >> Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd, >> ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8 >> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg > > Impressive on many axis. On my monitor it looks a bit dark,(2/3-1 stop > under?) is my monitor dialed up too bright? or is that an artistic choice of > yours to show that it was a dark and dreary day. > >> That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height. >> >> And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. >> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg > > That's even more impressive up close. > > Excellent work. > >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
K-1 + FA77 is a damned hard combination to beat at what it is good at. Mark Roberts wrote: So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft) Heh, in the Beigh Arya we have a Mt. Tam. and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human presence; they were obviously looking for food and had learned humans were only too happy to provide it in many cases. Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd, ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg Impressive on many axis. On my monitor it looks a bit dark,(2/3-1 stop under?) is my monitor dialed up too bright? or is that an artistic choice of yours to show that it was a dark and dreary day. That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height. And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg That's even more impressive up close. Excellent work. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 and 77 Limited
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > And now here's a crop at 100% magnification Impressive! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-1 and 77 Limited
Mark Roberts wrote: And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg Wow! That is sharp. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-1 and 77 Limited
So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft) and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human presence; they were obviously looking for food and had learned humans were only too happy to provide it in many cases. Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd, ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height. And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tight 40 mm Limited
I’m in Maryland, so Mr. Hendrickson will work well. Thanks Mike > On Nov 15, 2016, at 9:35 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > > Where are you. If you're in the Continental US send it to Eric Hendrickson > he has a web site called pentaxs.com. > > Good fast service, reasonable prices and very accommodating of the eccentric, > which I suppose you have to be to specialize in repairing Pentax equipment... > > The only thing I don't think he does is work on digital bodies, but AF lenses > don't seem to be a problem, especially as it sounds like your lens only needs > a CLA. > > He's an independent so parts can be a problem if something has to be replaced. > > his email address is penta...@aol.com. > > On 11/15/2016 5:47 PM, Michael Beacom wrote: >> Hi- >> >> It’s true, I’ve been ignoring PDML for quite a while. >> But I’ve discovered a new game- read the threads newest first. You find gems >> like this- >> >> 'Thanks. A giraffe is always good. I’ve never seen a picture that included >> a giraffe that led me to say, “The giraffe is spoiling the picture.” >> >> You guys suckered me in again... >> >> BTW: >> My 40mm Limited has gotten very stiff at the close focus end of travel. >> Stiff enough that it stalls autofocus. Is this a common problem? >> Where can I get it fixed? >> >> Cheers >> Mike > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tight 40 mm Limited
Where are you. If you're in the Continental US send it to Eric Hendrickson he has a web site called pentaxs.com. Good fast service, reasonable prices and very accommodating of the eccentric, which I suppose you have to be to specialize in repairing Pentax equipment... The only thing I don't think he does is work on digital bodies, but AF lenses don't seem to be a problem, especially as it sounds like your lens only needs a CLA. He's an independent so parts can be a problem if something has to be replaced. his email address is penta...@aol.com. On 11/15/2016 5:47 PM, Michael Beacom wrote: Hi- It’s true, I’ve been ignoring PDML for quite a while. But I’ve discovered a new game- read the threads newest first. You find gems like this- 'Thanks. A giraffe is always good. I’ve never seen a picture that included a giraffe that led me to say, “The giraffe is spoiling the picture.” You guys suckered me in again... BTW: My 40mm Limited has gotten very stiff at the close focus end of travel. Stiff enough that it stalls autofocus. Is this a common problem? Where can I get it fixed? Cheers Mike -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tight 40 mm Limited
Hi- It’s true, I’ve been ignoring PDML for quite a while. But I’ve discovered a new game- read the threads newest first. You find gems like this- 'Thanks. A giraffe is always good. I’ve never seen a picture that included a giraffe that led me to say, “The giraffe is spoiling the picture.” You guys suckered me in again... BTW: My 40mm Limited has gotten very stiff at the close focus end of travel. Stiff enough that it stalls autofocus. Is this a common problem? Where can I get it fixed? Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For Sale Friday: 77/1.8 Limited, Sigma 150-500, 645 A Series lenses and bits and bobs
Hi Stan, I contacted you off list. On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: > Some of these I posted last week. A few extra items. Last chance! eBay > listings tonight or tomorrow. > > In equipping my 645Z system I started by purchasing some A and some FA > lenses. I later decided that FA was the way to go. So I have 3 645 A lenses. > > In addition, in preparing for the K-1 I bought a 2nd FA* 24/2.0 and a second > FA 77u/1.8 Limited. Back story on the 24/2 and 77/1.8 at the bottom of this > message. > > Lenses and suggested prices below. Contact me if you would like to discuss > further. > > 645 A 45/2.8 $125 > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h7a79fabc > > 645 A 150/3.5 $150 > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h7f276a17 > > 645 A 200/4.0 $75 > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h7402efb0 > (sample images: > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p566717840/h7f9debfd#h7f9debfd) > > PK FA* 24/2.0 $350 [Spoken for] > > PK FA 77 /1.8 Limited $650 (Champagne colored) > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h71982bf2 > > PK D FA 100/2.8 macro (not the WR newer version) $275 > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h725a7054 > > Sigma DG 150-500/5-6.3 $550 [May be spoken for] > Sample image & downloadable RAW version here: (hover over upper left > corner to get dropdown menu for downloading) > http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e7e8bc4fb > > Kirk L-bracket for K10 with battery grip $20 > > Original box and plush leather bag for PK 31/1.8 Limited (the lens was stolen > long ago, the box and bag survive…) $10 > > Prices shown in most cases do not include shipping. Payment by check, credit > card or Paypal acceptable. > > stan > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
For Sale Friday: 77/1.8 Limited, Sigma 150-500, 645 A Series lenses and bits and bobs
Some of these I posted last week. A few extra items. Last chance! eBay listings tonight or tomorrow. In equipping my 645Z system I started by purchasing some A and some FA lenses. I later decided that FA was the way to go. So I have 3 645 A lenses. In addition, in preparing for the K-1 I bought a 2nd FA* 24/2.0 and a second FA 77u/1.8 Limited. Back story on the 24/2 and 77/1.8 at the bottom of this message. Lenses and suggested prices below. Contact me if you would like to discuss further. 645 A 45/2.8 $125 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h7a79fabc 645 A 150/3.5 $150 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h7f276a17 645 A 200/4.0 $75 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h7402efb0 (sample images: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p566717840/h7f9debfd#h7f9debfd) PK FA* 24/2.0 $350 [Spoken for] PK FA 77 /1.8 Limited $650 (Champagne colored) http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h71982bf2 PK D FA 100/2.8 macro (not the WR newer version) $275 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p269753714/h725a7054#h725a7054 Sigma DG 150-500/5-6.3 $550 [May be spoken for] Sample image & downloadable RAW version here: (hover over upper left corner to get dropdown menu for downloading) http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e7e8bc4fb Kirk L-bracket for K10 with battery grip $20 Original box and plush leather bag for PK 31/1.8 Limited (the lens was stolen long ago, the box and bag survive…) $10 Prices shown in most cases do not include shipping. Payment by check, credit card or Paypal acceptable. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses
What is this word you say... marketing??? http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 8:36 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > So what you're saying is that Ricoh is following the fine tradition of > Pentax marketing. > > On 1/4/2016 11:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >> I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company >> that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had >> superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the >> former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax >> marketing is. Case in point: >> >> Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images >> shown for each of the 4 lenses: >> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html >> (the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to >> page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses >> on the page). All are uniformly BLAH. >> >> A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo >> Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right >> hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras, >> unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click >> the GO button. >> >> The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The >> sample images? Not so much. >> >> > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses
So what you're saying is that Ricoh is following the fine tradition of Pentax marketing. On 1/4/2016 11:59 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax marketing is. Case in point: Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images shown for each of the 4 lenses: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html (the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses on the page). All are uniformly BLAH. A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras, unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click the GO button. The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The sample images? Not so much. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax marketing: Really crappy sample images of Limited lenses
I preface this by saying that if I had to choose between a company that had crappy marketing and superb engineering vs a company that had superb marketing and crappy engineering I would certainly take the former... but I continue to be amazed at how poor the Ricoh/Pentax marketing is. Case in point: Here is a page with 4 Limited lenses. Take a look at the Sample Images shown for each of the 4 lenses: http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/products/lens_cmp2/page04.html (the link goes to the 70mm f/2.4, but you can change the URL to page03, page02, page01 (or simply click the link for the other lenses on the page). All are uniformly BLAH. A better way to judge what a lens can do is to go to the Pentax Photo Gallery and click the "Cameras and Lenses" link in the upper right hand corner. Select the lens you want to look at (ignore the cameras, unless you want to limit your search to a particular body) and click the GO button. The images of the lenses themselves on the page are gorgeous. The sample images? Not so much. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
There are apps specifically designed to produce similar results using image bursts and it's actually not overly tedious to stack images in LR, you can choose to have them auto-aligned too. Personally my preference would be to have access to the images stack as discrete images so that I could easily remedy any aberrations that were introduced by subject movement. I understand the theory but I think that there is way too much emphasis put on the limited advantage leveraged by the PSR tech, scaling down an image from a larger sensor will yield similar results. The sample you provided a link to comes nowhere near filling my screen so I'm not sure where a 5k screen would differ in the appraisal of your samples? Lastly if the scene lends its self to tripod shooting I tend to shoot a pano sequence if I wish to generate a file with greater resolution, again this takes very little effort to post process these days and arguably yields a higher resolution file for the same data space. Interesting inclusion none the less. On 2 November 2015 at 11:17, Darren Addy wrote: > Appreciate the comments Rob. I'd be curious to know what Paul > Stenquist sees on his new 5K Mac display. (See original post in this > thread, if you are wanting a diversion, Paul). Just a guess, but I > think he may see more than "subtle" differences. > > Regarding your 2nd paragraph, it would be difficult to duplicate PSR > with just 4 shots. I'm no statistician, but PSR overcomes the Bayer > array with its 4 precise shots. Simply put, taking a theoretical > pixelsite-sized section of your overall image, any handheld shot you > take has a 50% chance of being a green one, a 25% chance of being a > red one, and a 25% chance of being a blue one. That does not equal > 100% chance of getting that exact distribution with 4 random handheld > shots. > > Also, you are going to have to deal with any subject movement from the > time you take your first exposure to the time you end your last one > (same problem for PSR). > In any event, the point is that the camera takes care of your exercise > FOR you. You don't HAVE to do the tedious combination of separate > images that you describe. The camera does it for you. Although you can > work with the huge RAW file yourself, if you wish. I have yet to > experiment with that. > > That being said, I'd be interested in seeing what a burst of 8 shots > at 8 fps would look like compared to PSR. Might have to put that on my > list of things to do, unless someone beats me to it. > > > On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: >> It's subtle but it's there, whether it's going to make a discernible >> difference in a print for instance depends on crop size vs print size >> I guess but it's a tool with very limited scope from my perspective >> given the artifacts created when there is any movement in the frame. >> >> I have yet to test but I would assume that similar results would be >> gained by shooting a series of four images using the high speed mode >> then combining them in LR or some similarly capable package, there >> would be sufficient camera shift between each shot to create a similar >> effect I expect. >> >> On 25 October 2015 at 03:51, John wrote: >>> The lettering on the wire appears (to me) a tiny bit crisper in the >>> pixel shift version. >>> >>> On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: >>>> >>>> Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. >>>> >>>> Alan C >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Darren Addy >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm >>>> Limited atf/11 >>>> >>>> My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift >>>> Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of >>>> electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 >>>> limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). >>>> >>>> What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual >>>> pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 >>>> pixel image. >>>> >>>> Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, >>>> shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that >>>> changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution >>>> (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera >>>> JPEG and on t
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
Appreciate the comments Rob. I'd be curious to know what Paul Stenquist sees on his new 5K Mac display. (See original post in this thread, if you are wanting a diversion, Paul). Just a guess, but I think he may see more than "subtle" differences. Regarding your 2nd paragraph, it would be difficult to duplicate PSR with just 4 shots. I'm no statistician, but PSR overcomes the Bayer array with its 4 precise shots. Simply put, taking a theoretical pixelsite-sized section of your overall image, any handheld shot you take has a 50% chance of being a green one, a 25% chance of being a red one, and a 25% chance of being a blue one. That does not equal 100% chance of getting that exact distribution with 4 random handheld shots. Also, you are going to have to deal with any subject movement from the time you take your first exposure to the time you end your last one (same problem for PSR). In any event, the point is that the camera takes care of your exercise FOR you. You don't HAVE to do the tedious combination of separate images that you describe. The camera does it for you. Although you can work with the huge RAW file yourself, if you wish. I have yet to experiment with that. That being said, I'd be interested in seeing what a burst of 8 shots at 8 fps would look like compared to PSR. Might have to put that on my list of things to do, unless someone beats me to it. On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: > It's subtle but it's there, whether it's going to make a discernible > difference in a print for instance depends on crop size vs print size > I guess but it's a tool with very limited scope from my perspective > given the artifacts created when there is any movement in the frame. > > I have yet to test but I would assume that similar results would be > gained by shooting a series of four images using the high speed mode > then combining them in LR or some similarly capable package, there > would be sufficient camera shift between each shot to create a similar > effect I expect. > > On 25 October 2015 at 03:51, John wrote: >> The lettering on the wire appears (to me) a tiny bit crisper in the >> pixel shift version. >> >> On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: >>> >>> Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Darren Addy >>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm >>> Limited atf/11 >>> >>> My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift >>> Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of >>> electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 >>> limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). >>> >>> What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual >>> pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 >>> pixel image. >>> >>> Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, >>> shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that >>> changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution >>> (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera >>> JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. >>> >>> Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: >>> http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg >>> >>> At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses >>> just magically got significantly better. >>> >> >> -- >> Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >> Religion - Answers we must never question. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) > Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours > Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
It's subtle but it's there, whether it's going to make a discernible difference in a print for instance depends on crop size vs print size I guess but it's a tool with very limited scope from my perspective given the artifacts created when there is any movement in the frame. I have yet to test but I would assume that similar results would be gained by shooting a series of four images using the high speed mode then combining them in LR or some similarly capable package, there would be sufficient camera shift between each shot to create a similar effect I expect. On 25 October 2015 at 03:51, John wrote: > The lettering on the wire appears (to me) a tiny bit crisper in the > pixel shift version. > > On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: >> >> Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. >> >> Alan C >> >> -Original Message- From: Darren Addy >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm >> Limited atf/11 >> >> My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift >> Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of >> electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 >> limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). >> >> What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual >> pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 >> pixel image. >> >> Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, >> shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that >> changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution >> (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera >> JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. >> >> Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: >> http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg >> >> At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses >> just magically got significantly better. >> > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
The lettering on the wire appears (to me) a tiny bit crisper in the pixel shift version. On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. Alan C -Original Message- From: Darren Addy Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11 My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 pixel image. Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses just magically got significantly better. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 07:43:08AM -0400, Collin B wrote: > > Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. > > Alan C > > > Ditto > >Kenneth Waller > > I had to study it for a while. Looking at the pitting on the column the > edges are a bit sharper. Note also that white dot on the right edge of the > column, to the right of the axle. It's not like you're going to see an > improvement akin to making it into a 40Mp camera. > > From what I can see it reminds me of doing some edge enhancements > in PS. I can definitely see a difference, but looking at two almost identical images like this on a middle-of-the-road monitor (a HP ZR24w) also shows me that the differences are easily masked by differences caused by other factors (such as the angle at which you are viewing the image). If I shift my head from side to side (by about one quarter of the viewing distance) there is a significant change in contrast (which, of course, affects perceived sharpness) which makes it much harder to spot any actual changes. As others have said, the pitting on the upright (and details visible through the small hole in the spool near the top of the image) do show differences. I don't think much of the photography I do would benefit from this kind of thing (not to mention that I'm already concerned that if I do get a K-3 the increase in file size is going to put a strain on my computer system). How many MB are needed to store a full pixel-shift resolution image? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited at f/11
Darren Addy wrote: My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 pixel image. On my 27" Apple monitor the differences are pretty subtle. Likewise on my second Dell monitor that I use in vertical format. I suspect that a lot of that has to do with the subject matter not making it clear exactly what the plane of focus is. Perhaps, if you took a book and set it up so that the page was at an angle to the plane of the image and shot it at mtr optimal f-stop then it would be easier to tell where the sharpest bit was to compare the two. I also wonder how PSR also affects other characteristics such as noise and dynamic range. In theory, it makes each pixel effectively three (or four?) times the area. As such it would also be interesting to compare a test photo shot at both ISO 100 and ISO 10,000. Since most of us don't tend to show, or look at, much of our work zoomed in at the pixel peeping level, I do wonder if there is any difference to the subjective experience, and if it would be different for different lenses. For example, would the magic pixie dust of the FA77 (or the FA31) be more noticeable with PSR than without? Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that 12 second selftimer, not the 2 second? changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. I also wonder if the difference would be more, or less, noticeable after carefully processing the two raw files. Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses just magically got significantly better. I don't know about that, but I do know that your upgrading made a significant improvement to the resolving power of all of my lenses. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
Hey, I got a grammar error and a spelling error in one. A bargain! On 10/23/2015 2:11 PM, Darren Addy wrote: And I need a grammar checker. :\ On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:06 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: That should be "your display", damned f!&@$#n' spell checker, you'd think by now that I'd have learned to watch how it corrects suspect words... On 10/23/2015 1:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Probably you're display can't actually show the differences. I don't see any differences either. I know that the display I'm using isn't nearly as good as the Hitachi SuperScan CRT that it replaced. On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. Alan C -Original Message- From: Darren Addy Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11 My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 pixel image. Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses just magically got significantly better. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
And I need a grammar checker. :\ On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:06 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > That should be "your display", damned f!&@$#n' spell checker, you'd think by > now that I'd have learned to watch how it corrects suspect words... > > > On 10/23/2015 1:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: >> >> Probably you're display can't actually show the differences. I don't see >> any differences either. I know that the display I'm using isn't nearly as >> good as the Hitachi SuperScan CRT that it replaced. >> >> On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: >>> >>> Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Darren Addy >>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm >>> Limited atf/11 >>> >>> My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift >>> Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of >>> electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 >>> limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). >>> >>> What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual >>> pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 >>> pixel image. >>> >>> Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, >>> shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that >>> changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution >>> (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera >>> JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. >>> >>> Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: >>> http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg >>> >>> At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses >>> just magically got significantly better. >>> >> >> > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
That should be "your display", damned f!&@$#n' spell checker, you'd think by now that I'd have learned to watch how it corrects suspect words... On 10/23/2015 1:54 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Probably you're display can't actually show the differences. I don't see any differences either. I know that the display I'm using isn't nearly as good as the Hitachi SuperScan CRT that it replaced. On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. Alan C -Original Message- From: Darren Addy Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11 My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 pixel image. Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses just magically got significantly better. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
Probably you're display can't actually show the differences. I don't see any differences either. I know that the display I'm using isn't nearly as good as the Hitachi SuperScan CRT that it replaced. On 10/23/2015 12:01 AM, Alan C wrote: Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. Alan C -Original Message- From: Darren Addy Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11 My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 pixel image. Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses just magically got significantly better. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
> Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. > Alan C > Ditto >Kenneth Waller I had to study it for a while. Looking at the pitting on the column the edges are a bit sharper. Note also that white dot on the right edge of the column, to the right of the axle. It's not like you're going to see an improvement akin to making it into a 40Mp camera. From what I can see it reminds me of doing some edge enhancements in PS. Remember also: These are 100% crops, a small part of the original. The "timbre" improvement over the whole of the image would toward improved realism. I wonder -- will this feature be in the FF camera? Had better be. It appears to be a valuable addition. The value of that value is ... ymmv. The lens didn't get better. The medium got better and could resolve the light from the lens. Like going from TriX to APX25. Sort of. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited at f/11
My intent in showing the side by side comparison is not to make anyone unhappy with their current equipment. Heaven knows that I believe that very cool images can be created with ANY camera of ANY kind of technology all the way down to a plastic Holga or home made pinhole camera. You can have a lifetime of fun with anything, especially if you have an imagination. And I'm not arguing that Pixel Shift Resolutution, is, by itself, a good enough reason to justify the purchase of a K-3II. It depends what you shoot and most people think about the kind of photography subjects that they shoot and don't see a use for it. Personally, I happen to have some subjects that I think it is going to work very well on. As to why people cannot see the difference, I can't say. I don't know if it is their eyes, the size of the monitor they are looking at it on, the quality of the montior they are looking at it on (or its settings)... too many variables. The difference is clear to me, both on my 24" work monitor and my 15" laptop (though it becomes unclear if I turn the brightness on my laptop down).. Or they aren't clicking on the image to actually see it at 100% pixels. As to Boris question of print size, to see the difference, I can't say, particularly given that some people apparently can't see the difference on their monitors, which are 96dpi devices. To see the full aps-c frame at 96dpi you would have a 42 x 63" print. The crop I took for the side by side would be approximately a vertical 8x10 crop from that 42x63" image. PSR is simply another tool in the toolbox. Once you have the tool in your toolbox you start thinking about different ways that it could be used. It is like a sharpening tool in post-processing, only much better because that method produces artifacts when the subject is moving and oversharpening also produces artifacts. Speaking of PSR artifacts, I don't see why it would'n't be practical to take two images of a scene (PSR and "normal") and put the PSR layer over the normal layer in Photoshop and simply DROP OUT any PSR artifacts that resulted from moving. I think that would make an image that would make those pixels imperceptible. Pixel Shift Resolution should make any Pentax user (or fanboy) seriously proud of the Pentax engineers that came up with this system and pulled it off. Pentax engineers have been figuring out how to leverage the SR system for all kinds of amazingly innovative things like the AstroTracer and the user-selectable AA simulator. I'd put the Pentax designers, from ergonomics, to menu design, to the camera itself, up against anybody's. If having the SR in the body made a lot of sense to you and is one of the reason you picked Pentax, then pat yourself on the back. You picked the winning horse. And based upon my experience and what I see in the specs and (so far in practice) the K-3 II has the potential to be objectively called the Ultimate APS-C DSLR on the planet for versatility and image quality. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Darren, can you please enlighten me and indicate - what size of print would > be necessary for the common viewer to look at it and say - "hmmm, I think > that this picture is more pleasant to look at than that one"? > > Naturally, I don't mean to say that the new technology does not better the > old one or that Pentax makes bad gear. However, I am still perfectly happy > with my good old K-5. > > Not long ago, I has a picture of mine printed 40x60 cm (<-- notice, cm, not > inch) from 12 MP Ricoh GXR shot at rather high ISO handheld at night with > Nokton 40/1.4 at f/1.8, if my memory does not fail me. It looks so good, > that I have absolutely no desire for any kind of upgrade of my gear. I think > it will be a waste of my money, energy and time, as personally me - I will > not be able to extract any reasonable technical improvement over my current > gear. Doubtless, it will make me feel good, though. > > Ok, back to my lurking. > > Boris > > On 10/23/2015 5:59, Darren Addy wrote: >>> >>> I must resist the temptation of purchase. >> >> Why? YOLO! >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited at f/11
Darren, can you please enlighten me and indicate - what size of print would be necessary for the common viewer to look at it and say - "hmmm, I think that this picture is more pleasant to look at than that one"? Naturally, I don't mean to say that the new technology does not better the old one or that Pentax makes bad gear. However, I am still perfectly happy with my good old K-5. Not long ago, I has a picture of mine printed 40x60 cm (<-- notice, cm, not inch) from 12 MP Ricoh GXR shot at rather high ISO handheld at night with Nokton 40/1.4 at f/1.8, if my memory does not fail me. It looks so good, that I have absolutely no desire for any kind of upgrade of my gear. I think it will be a waste of my money, energy and time, as personally me - I will not be able to extract any reasonable technical improvement over my current gear. Doubtless, it will make me feel good, though. Ok, back to my lurking. Boris On 10/23/2015 5:59, Darren Addy wrote: I must resist the temptation of purchase. Why? YOLO! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11
Am I missing something? Can't see a difference. Alan C -Original Message- From: Darren Addy Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited atf/11 My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 pixel image. Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses just magically got significantly better. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited at f/11
> I must resist the temptation of purchase. Why? YOLO! On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > You're killing me here! > I must resist the temptation of purchase. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Darren Addy wrote: >> My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift >> Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of >> electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 >> limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). >> >> What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual >> pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 >> pixel image. >> >> Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, >> shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that >> changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution >> (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera >> JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. >> >> Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: >> http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg >> >> At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses >> just magically got significantly better. >> >> -- >> Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited at f/11
You're killing me here! I must resist the temptation of purchase. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift > Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of > electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 > limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). > > What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual > pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 > pixel image. > > Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, > shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that > changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution > (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera > JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. > > Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: > http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg > > At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses > just magically got significantly better. > > -- > Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A side-by-side Pixel Shift Resolution comparison with 77mm Limited at f/11
My K-3II arrived today and so I had to try out the Pixel Shift Resolution during afternoon break. Found an obliging dusty rack of electrical wire that agreed to serve as my subject. The 77mm f/1.8 limited is a very sharp lens (as anyone who has one will tell you). What you see in the link below is an image blown up to 100% (actual pixels). Each is an 863 pixel x 994 pixel crop of the full 6016 x 4000 pixel image. Conditions: Same exposure (2 sec. f/11, ISO 100) focused manually, shutter fired with the 12 second self-timer. The only thing that changed between shots was that I turned on Pixel Shift Resolution (without moving anything). On the left is a standard out of camera JPEG and on the right the JPEG produced with Pixel Shift Resolution. Click on it with your browser cursor to see it at 100%: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/PSRComparison.jpg At least for cooperative subjects, it looks (to me) like all my lenses just magically got significantly better. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ricoh Imaging (USA) redesigned web site shows very limited lens line up.
As in very few lenses. Stupidly organized as well by the way. Really if I'm interested in K mount DSLRs and click on the lenses link, you'd think they'd filter by only K mount lenses, but no, you get a listing that includes all the lenses, such as they are. Either they're dropping a lot of product in the US or their web site manager is an idiot, and I wouldn't make a bet either way, at this point. The Canadian Web site is much better, with a much more fully represented line of Pentax products represented, so Go Canada. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
Gee, thanks folks! One never knows which photos will "grab" people. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:30 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > I love that! Also, your PUG this month is my fave > ann > > > On 8/7/2015 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: >> >> The last in the UK series for now: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg >> >> (K-5, DA 16-45) >> >> Comments appreciated. >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
I love that! Also, your PUG this month is my fave ann On 8/7/2015 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: The last in the UK series for now: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
Wowsers, RICK! This is perfect in every way. I have the feeling we will be seeing this one in next year's Annual. Love wisteria and your composition and rendering are spot on. On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > The last in the UK series for now: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg > > (K-5, DA 16-45) > > Comments appreciated. > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
On 8/7/2015 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: The last in the UK series for now: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick A fairly delightful way of limiting the view. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
Lovely! On 8/7/2015 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: The last in the UK series for now: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
They're related. Mass wysteria erupted when Dennis Moore brought in one bundle of lupins too many. On Aug 7, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > It's certainly a nice scene. > > That's mass wisteria, Frank. Lupins grow from the ground up, which is why > they are so easily gathered and transported to peasants' hovels. > > B > >> On 8 Aug 2015, at 03:32, Knarf wrote: >> >> Wow, you saved your best for last! Certainly among my faves from this >> series. Beautiful colours, very well composed, interesting subject matter >> and so very, very English. >> >> By the way, I'm no botanist, but could this have possibly been titled, "Your >> Lupins or your Life"? >> >> ;-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >>> On 7 August, 2015 9:43:11 PM EDT, Rick Womer wrote: >>> The last in the UK series for now: >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg >>> >>> (K-5, DA 16-45) >>> >>> Comments appreciated. >>> >>> Rick >> >> -- >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
Dramatic shot, very nicely rendered, Rick! J - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 6:43:11 PM Subject: PESO - Limited View The last in the UK series for now: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
> On Aug 7, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > The last in the UK series for now: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg I missed the earlier ones. This one’s lovely—and interesting. I go with what Frank said. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net "Our world is a human world." - Hilary Putnam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
I've enjoyed your series, Rick. Not the sort of places occasional visitors like me would see. The "pong" one was double edged with those garbage bins in the background & the Wisteria is magnificent. Alan C -Original Message- From: Rick Womer Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Limited View The last in the UK series for now: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
I love the wysteria!. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > The last in the UK series for now: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg > > (K-5, DA 16-45) > > Comments appreciated. > > Rick > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
Mass wisteria. I learned something new today. Thanks! Cheers, frank On 7 August, 2015 11:06:55 PM EDT, Bob W-PDML wrote: >It's certainly a nice scene. > >That's mass wisteria, Frank. Lupins grow from the ground up, which is >why they are so easily gathered and transported to peasants' hovels. > >B > >> On 8 Aug 2015, at 03:32, Knarf wrote: >> >> Wow, you saved your best for last! Certainly among my faves from this >series. Beautiful colours, very well composed, interesting subject >matter and so very, very English. >> >> By the way, I'm no botanist, but could this have possibly been >titled, "Your Lupins or your Life"? >> >> ;-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >>> On 7 August, 2015 9:43:11 PM EDT, Rick Womer >wrote: >>> The last in the UK series for now: >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg >>> >>> (K-5, DA 16-45) >>> >>> Comments appreciated. >>> >>> Rick >> >> -- >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
It's certainly a nice scene. That's mass wisteria, Frank. Lupins grow from the ground up, which is why they are so easily gathered and transported to peasants' hovels. B > On 8 Aug 2015, at 03:32, Knarf wrote: > > Wow, you saved your best for last! Certainly among my faves from this series. > Beautiful colours, very well composed, interesting subject matter and so > very, very English. > > By the way, I'm no botanist, but could this have possibly been titled, "Your > Lupins or your Life"? > > ;-) > > Cheers, > > frank > >> On 7 August, 2015 9:43:11 PM EDT, Rick Womer wrote: >> The last in the UK series for now: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg >> >> (K-5, DA 16-45) >> >> Comments appreciated. >> >> Rick > > -- > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Limited View
Wow, you saved your best for last! Certainly among my faves from this series. Beautiful colours, very well composed, interesting subject matter and so very, very English. By the way, I'm no botanist, but could this have possibly been titled, "Your Lupins or your Life"? ;-) Cheers, frank On 7 August, 2015 9:43:11 PM EDT, Rick Womer wrote: >The last in the UK series for now: > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg > >(K-5, DA 16-45) > >Comments appreciated. > >Rick -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Limited View
The last in the UK series for now: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18049307&size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming...
The clip on Pentax GPS is brilliant :-) But of course it's more convenient to have it built in. Also, it prevents the use of other hot shoe equipment, such as a remote trigger. I seriously consider getting the K-3II - or should I wait for the Full Frame body to appear ? Regards Jens Den 22-04-2015 kl. 01:13 skrev Ralf R Radermacher: Am 22.04.15 um 00:09 schrieb Brian Walters: ... it will have "The high-resolution image by pixel shifting." ...and built-in GPS. Not enough to make me flog off my K-3 and buy the K-3 II but annoying just as well. The display of my Garmin portable is slowly dying and the clip-on GPS module for the K-3 is awfully big. Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO with the 77mm Limited
A great take on the subject ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: PESO with the 77mm Limited Haven't had an abundance of opportunity to use my recently procured FA77 but it was the perfect focal length for this shot, taken on Monday. Of course I'm using it at f/11, where most every lens should perform at its best, but I was still pretty amazed at its incredible sharpness (paired with the K-3). I think I will need to look for more opportunities to use it. B&W conversion with Silver Efex Pro 2. https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17536006034/ For those interested in looking at it at 100%: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17536006034/sizes/o/ (It was cropped slightly from the full APS-C frame to allow for a slight straightening.) Comments and criticism welcome in equal measure. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO with the 77mm Limited
A sharp, beautiful conversion, Darren! J - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:47:37 AM Subject: PESO with the 77mm Limited Haven't had an abundance of opportunity to use my recently procured FA77 but it was the perfect focal length for this shot, taken on Monday. Of course I'm using it at f/11, where most every lens should perform at its best, but I was still pretty amazed at its incredible sharpness (paired with the K-3). I think I will need to look for more opportunities to use it. B&W conversion with Silver Efex Pro 2. https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17536006034/ For those interested in looking at it at 100%: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17536006034/sizes/o/ (It was cropped slightly from the full APS-C frame to allow for a slight straightening.) Comments and criticism welcome in equal measure. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO with the 77mm Limited
Haven't had an abundance of opportunity to use my recently procured FA77 but it was the perfect focal length for this shot, taken on Monday. Of course I'm using it at f/11, where most every lens should perform at its best, but I was still pretty amazed at its incredible sharpness (paired with the K-3). I think I will need to look for more opportunities to use it. B&W conversion with Silver Efex Pro 2. https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17536006034/ For those interested in looking at it at 100%: https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17536006034/sizes/o/ (It was cropped slightly from the full APS-C frame to allow for a slight straightening.) Comments and criticism welcome in equal measure. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 01:33:44PM -0600, steve harley wrote: > On 2015-04-24 6:25 , Darren Addy wrote: > >It is possible, assuming that the flash would only use 25% of full > >manual power on the 4 consecutive shots. > > i would think each of the 4 exposures would require the nominal amount of > flash, as you'd need a good "histogram" on each of them to get the best > result after merging Each of the four exposures would get the same amount of flash (up to 25% of the total power the flash has available). (That, of course, reduces the effective guide number of the flash). The camera will tell the flash unit how much power it should use. That's what is done nowadays when using high speed sync - multiple firings of the flash as the open slit in the shutter moves across the sensor. I'm always impressed that the shutter mechanism is precise enough that there are no visible artifacts of this - that means the timing of the flash has to be precise to the microsecond, and the shutter curtains have to remain parallel, with a constant separation, to within the dimension of a pixel. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2015-04-24 6:25 , Darren Addy wrote: It is possible, assuming that the flash would only use 25% of full manual power on the 4 consecutive shots. i would think each of the 4 exposures would require the nominal amount of flash, as you'd need a good "histogram" on each of them to get the best result after merging -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It is possible, assuming that the flash would only use 25% of full manual power on the 4 consecutive shots. However, if you are taking a studio portrait, I think we can pretty much assume that the last three pixel shifts will capture the subject with their eyes closed. (Only half joking there). On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:33 AM, John Francis wrote: > > I don't see why you think this means it won't work with flash. > I'd expect the camera to be quite capable of triggering the flash > each time it 'opens' the electronic shutter. And, as I point out, > any high speed sync capable flash is capable of being triggered > multiple times during the 1/180 sec or so of a fast exposure. > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 04:49:15PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: >> I don't think this (the pixel shift resolution) is going to work with >> flash period. The pixel shift resolution is not using the focal plane >> shutter for anything more than opening and closing the "window". The 4 >> exposures taken while that window are open will be done by electronic >> shutter (basically a turning on and off of the sensor electronically). >> The mirror will go up and focal length shutter open at the >> beginning... the 4 exposures will be taken and the shutter will close >> and mirror come down again afterwards (making it feel something like a >> 1/2 second exposure). >> >> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:14 PM, John Francis wrote: >> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 05:35:59AM -0400, Glen Berry wrote: >> >> Yeah, in the other K-3 II thread, I had mentioned this myself. I suppose >> >> they could do something where each of the four sub-exposures gets 1/4 of >> >> the >> >> total flash power, with the flash firing a total of 4 times for each >> >> resolution-enhanced image. For TTL flash, that would probably require a >> >> special flash unit with special programming. >> > >> > As Pentax already offer a high speed flash sync mode (basically firing the >> > flash multiple times, synced with the shutter motion, to expose the image >> > in strips as the shutter slit moves across the frame), I don't see there >> > being any problem in using flash for the four sub-exposures. I would assume >> > that any flash that supports high-speed sync mode today (such as an >> > AF540FGZ, >> > or one of several third-party units) would have no problems supporting >> > this. >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> > follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't see why you think this means it won't work with flash. I'd expect the camera to be quite capable of triggering the flash each time it 'opens' the electronic shutter. And, as I point out, any high speed sync capable flash is capable of being triggered multiple times during the 1/180 sec or so of a fast exposure. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 04:49:15PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote: > I don't think this (the pixel shift resolution) is going to work with > flash period. The pixel shift resolution is not using the focal plane > shutter for anything more than opening and closing the "window". The 4 > exposures taken while that window are open will be done by electronic > shutter (basically a turning on and off of the sensor electronically). > The mirror will go up and focal length shutter open at the > beginning... the 4 exposures will be taken and the shutter will close > and mirror come down again afterwards (making it feel something like a > 1/2 second exposure). > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:14 PM, John Francis wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 05:35:59AM -0400, Glen Berry wrote: > >> Yeah, in the other K-3 II thread, I had mentioned this myself. I suppose > >> they could do something where each of the four sub-exposures gets 1/4 of > >> the > >> total flash power, with the flash firing a total of 4 times for each > >> resolution-enhanced image. For TTL flash, that would probably require a > >> special flash unit with special programming. > > > > As Pentax already offer a high speed flash sync mode (basically firing the > > flash multiple times, synced with the shutter motion, to expose the image > > in strips as the shutter slit moves across the frame), I don't see there > > being any problem in using flash for the four sub-exposures. I would assume > > that any flash that supports high-speed sync mode today (such as an > > AF540FGZ, > > or one of several third-party units) would have no problems supporting this. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > -- > Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Darren Addy wrote: I don't think this (the pixel shift resolution) is going to work with flash period. The pixel shift resolution is not using the focal plane shutter for anything more than opening and closing the "window". The 4 exposures taken while that window are open will be done by electronic shutter (basically a turning on and off of the sensor electronically). The mirror will go up and focal length shutter open at the beginning... the 4 exposures will be taken and the shutter will close and mirror come down again afterwards (making it feel something like a 1/2 second exposure). I wonder if the electronic shutter can be used to give flash sync at over 1/160th second. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't think this (the pixel shift resolution) is going to work with flash period. The pixel shift resolution is not using the focal plane shutter for anything more than opening and closing the "window". The 4 exposures taken while that window are open will be done by electronic shutter (basically a turning on and off of the sensor electronically). The mirror will go up and focal length shutter open at the beginning... the 4 exposures will be taken and the shutter will close and mirror come down again afterwards (making it feel something like a 1/2 second exposure). On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 4:14 PM, John Francis wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 05:35:59AM -0400, Glen Berry wrote: >> Yeah, in the other K-3 II thread, I had mentioned this myself. I suppose >> they could do something where each of the four sub-exposures gets 1/4 of the >> total flash power, with the flash firing a total of 4 times for each >> resolution-enhanced image. For TTL flash, that would probably require a >> special flash unit with special programming. > > As Pentax already offer a high speed flash sync mode (basically firing the > flash multiple times, synced with the shutter motion, to expose the image > in strips as the shutter slit moves across the frame), I don't see there > being any problem in using flash for the four sub-exposures. I would assume > that any flash that supports high-speed sync mode today (such as an AF540FGZ, > or one of several third-party units) would have no problems supporting this. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 05:35:59AM -0400, Glen Berry wrote: > Yeah, in the other K-3 II thread, I had mentioned this myself. I suppose > they could do something where each of the four sub-exposures gets 1/4 of the > total flash power, with the flash firing a total of 4 times for each > resolution-enhanced image. For TTL flash, that would probably require a > special flash unit with special programming. As Pentax already offer a high speed flash sync mode (basically firing the flash multiple times, synced with the shutter motion, to expose the image in strips as the shutter slit moves across the frame), I don't see there being any problem in using flash for the four sub-exposures. I would assume that any flash that supports high-speed sync mode today (such as an AF540FGZ, or one of several third-party units) would have no problems supporting this. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm curious also. Since SR should be turned on when on tripod I think they might be avoiding that whole can of worms. On the other hand, no one has talked about the Panning Compensation in which the SR still works to give you the steadiest shot possible even though it detects (from camera movements and your choice of shutter speed, no doubt) that you are taking a panning shot. That's potentially some pretty sophisticated programming also! On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:18 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: > What about anti shake, is that available in this mode or is a tripod > assumed? The sensor movement and control is probably becoming quite complex > programmatically at this point. > > On 4/23/2015 5:22 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: >> >> I'm also worried about the flash exposure, assuming the flash will only >> hit one exposure out of four. >> This has to be investigated. >> >> Dario >> >> -Messaggio originale- From: Larry Colen >> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:12 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming... >> >> >> >> Glen Berry wrote: >>> >>> Since we're only talking about a senor shift of one pixel, would a >>> little subject movement necessarily ruin your shot? I'd think in many >>> cases, the resulting quality wouldn't be that much different than >>> shooting a normal image without the resolution enhancement turned on. >>> >> >> Let's say you take a picture of a street scene. For some reason you don't >> >> notice the reflection in the window of someone walking past. They are >> moving >> well more than one pixel per shot. What does that end up looking like? >> It's not just blur, it would be like a quadruple exposure? >> >> Or, you are taking a landscape photo. You don't even notice the wind, or >> that the tree branches and leaves, or the flowers, or the grass, is >> moving. Now rather than having more color depth at each pixel, a lot of >> the frame has the blur of a quadruple exposure. >> >> I do wonder how it would work in connection with the astrotracer, or if >> it would. >> > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What about anti shake, is that available in this mode or is a tripod assumed? The sensor movement and control is probably becoming quite complex programmatically at this point. On 4/23/2015 5:22 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: I'm also worried about the flash exposure, assuming the flash will only hit one exposure out of four. This has to be investigated. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming... Glen Berry wrote: Since we're only talking about a senor shift of one pixel, would a little subject movement necessarily ruin your shot? I'd think in many cases, the resulting quality wouldn't be that much different than shooting a normal image without the resolution enhancement turned on. Let's say you take a picture of a street scene. For some reason you don't notice the reflection in the window of someone walking past. They are moving well more than one pixel per shot. What does that end up looking like? It's not just blur, it would be like a quadruple exposure? Or, you are taking a landscape photo. You don't even notice the wind, or that the tree branches and leaves, or the flowers, or the grass, is moving. Now rather than having more color depth at each pixel, a lot of the frame has the blur of a quadruple exposure. I do wonder how it would work in connection with the astrotracer, or if it would. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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B&H has it for pre-order for $1100 IIRC. Malcolm Smith wrote: I've had an e-mail in from one of the UK dealers stating the body only option is £769, which is better than I thought it would be launched at. Malcolm -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've had an e-mail in from one of the UK dealers stating the body only option is £769, which is better than I thought it would be launched at. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, in the other K-3 II thread, I had mentioned this myself. I suppose they could do something where each of the four sub-exposures gets 1/4 of the total flash power, with the flash firing a total of 4 times for each resolution-enhanced image. For TTL flash, that would probably require a special flash unit with special programming. I suppose a thyristor flash in manual mode, at a low enough power setting, could also keep up with the four sub-exposures. Since this feature is for stationary objects, and not for action, shooting flash in manual mode wouldn't be too much of a drawback for me personally. On 4/23/2015 5:22 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: I'm also worried about the flash exposure, assuming the flash will only hit one exposure out of four. This has to be investigated. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm also worried about the flash exposure, assuming the flash will only hit one exposure out of four. This has to be investigated. Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:12 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming... Glen Berry wrote: Since we're only talking about a senor shift of one pixel, would a little subject movement necessarily ruin your shot? I'd think in many cases, the resulting quality wouldn't be that much different than shooting a normal image without the resolution enhancement turned on. Let's say you take a picture of a street scene. For some reason you don't notice the reflection in the window of someone walking past. They are moving well more than one pixel per shot. What does that end up looking like? It's not just blur, it would be like a quadruple exposure? Or, you are taking a landscape photo. You don't even notice the wind, or that the tree branches and leaves, or the flowers, or the grass, is moving. Now rather than having more color depth at each pixel, a lot of the frame has the blur of a quadruple exposure. I do wonder how it would work in connection with the astrotracer, or if it would. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Glen Berry wrote: Since we're only talking about a senor shift of one pixel, would a little subject movement necessarily ruin your shot? I'd think in many cases, the resulting quality wouldn't be that much different than shooting a normal image without the resolution enhancement turned on. Let's say you take a picture of a street scene. For some reason you don't notice the reflection in the window of someone walking past. They are moving well more than one pixel per shot. What does that end up looking like? It's not just blur, it would be like a quadruple exposure? Or, you are taking a landscape photo. You don't even notice the wind, or that the tree branches and leaves, or the flowers, or the grass, is moving. Now rather than having more color depth at each pixel, a lot of the frame has the blur of a quadruple exposure. I do wonder how it would work in connection with the astrotracer, or if it would. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Since we're only talking about a senor shift of one pixel, would a little subject movement necessarily ruin your shot? I'd think in many cases, the resulting quality wouldn't be that much different than shooting a normal image without the resolution enhancement turned on. On 4/23/2015 4:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 01:46:23AM -0400, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: What would be really nifty would be the option of getting all three or four low resolution raw files in addition to the superresolution final file, on the off chance the merge doesn't work, you'd still have unmerged files that would be usable. I don't see a lot of point to that. The logic that combines the four original images into a a single multi-channel image is pretty straigntforward; with the exception of the green component, which is the sum (or average) of values from two of the original images, each component value in the merged image is just a copy of the value in one of the four input images (possibly offset by one pixel horizontally and/or vertically). I consider it extremely unlikely that errors would occur in doing this combining (and suspect there may, in fact, be custom hardware such as a one-scanline shift register to support doing this rapidly). If there are things moving in the image enought to screw up the blend, but for some reason you just don't notice them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If I had the new K-3 II, I wouldn't miss the pop-up flash at all. I generally use either hot shoe flashes or monolights when I need flash. Speaking of hot shoes, this new internal GPS unit won't tie up your hot shoe like the older external model does. Using both GPS and a hot shoe flash at the same time should be easy now. Those of you who never shoot outdoors in the wilderness probably don't need the GPS features so much. It should be a big benefit to those wanting to capture stars as point sources instead of trails though. The compass and logging features might also come in handy while hiking through remote areas. I'd definitely make use of the GPS unit for some of my shooting. On 4/23/2015 2:51 AM, John Coyle wrote: Just occasionally I've wished I had recorded the GPS location of a shot - once for sure in the White Desert, east of Cairo. We were camping under the stars, at least an hour from the nearest town, and it would be interesting to see exactly where we were. I guess it's one of those features that's great to have when you really need it, but not much missed otherwise. Not sure about taking out the popup flash, I used mine today to throw some balancing light into a contrasty scene. John in Brisbane -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Am 23.04.15 um 08:51 schrieb John Coyle: I guess it's one of those features that's great to have when you really need it, but not much missed otherwise. I've been tagging my photos using a Garmin hand-held and Houdah Geo for a number of years now. My main use is in Lightroom to find all pictures I've taken at a particular location for illustrating my blog posts. Wouldn't want to be without it anymore. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 01:46:23AM -0400, John Francis wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > What would be really nifty would be the option of getting all three or four > > low resolution raw files in addition to the superresolution final file, on > > the off chance the merge doesn't work, you'd still have unmerged files that > > would be usable. > > I don't see a lot of point to that. The logic that combines the four original > images into a a single multi-channel image is pretty straigntforward; with the > exception of the green component, which is the sum (or average) of values from > two of the original images, each component value in the merged image is just a > copy of the value in one of the four input images (possibly offset by one > pixel > horizontally and/or vertically). I consider it extremely unlikely that errors > would occur in doing this combining (and suspect there may, in fact, be custom > hardware such as a one-scanline shift register to support doing this rapidly). If there are things moving in the image enought to screw up the blend, but for some reason you just don't notice them. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming...
Just occasionally I've wished I had recorded the GPS location of a shot - once for sure in the White Desert, east of Cairo. We were camping under the stars, at least an hour from the nearest town, and it would be interesting to see exactly where we were. I guess it's one of those features that's great to have when you really need it, but not much missed otherwise. Not sure about taking out the popup flash, I used mine today to throw some balancing light into a contrasty scene. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2015 9:39 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming... Had not seen that view before, so Pentax is putting the GPS module where the pop up flash used to be. On the other hand Canon removes the built in GPS from one of their models because no one cared. Honestly, I sometimes use the pop up flash, but I don't think I've ever missed having GPS, and if I needed it, an add on device that Pentax already makes seems like a pretty good option. On 4/21/2015 7:10 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 5:34 PM, P.J. Alling > wrote: >> I wonder what "Flash not equipped" means, no built in flash or >> something else, since there seems to be a flash deployment button on >> most of the leaked pictures... > The button is now labeled "GPS" if the photos are accurate: > http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Pentax-K-3-II-DSLR-c > amera-2.jpg > -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming...
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > What would be really nifty would be the option of getting all three or four > low resolution raw files in addition to the superresolution final file, on > the off chance the merge doesn't work, you'd still have unmerged files that > would be usable. I don't see a lot of point to that. The logic that combines the four original images into a a single multi-channel image is pretty straigntforward; with the exception of the green component, which is the sum (or average) of values from two of the original images, each component value in the merged image is just a copy of the value in one of the four input images (possibly offset by one pixel horizontally and/or vertically). I consider it extremely unlikely that errors would occur in doing this combining (and suspect there may, in fact, be custom hardware such as a one-scanline shift register to support doing this rapidly). Where I think there is far more possibility for error is in the accuracy of the sensor shift mechanism in shifting by exactly one pixel. If such an error does occur the final image may not have quite the full spatial resolution that would be possible, but it's still going to be better than a Bayer-transformed result derived from just a single one of the four input images. And, in any case, it's pretty simple to pick apart the combined image to get the four original images (except for some slight uncertainty in the green channel). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming...
Quoting "P.J. Alling" : Well, yes, but both require multiple separate exposures, hand held that would be "difficult". Yes, although Olympus is said to be working on a hand-held high res mode: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/5476551037/interview-with-setsuya-kataoka-from-olympus-om-d-high-resolution-mode Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On 4/22/2015 9:21 AM, Bill wrote: On 22/04/2015 6:33 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: I'm pretty sure that the Ricoh implementation needs a static subject and a tripod as well. From what I've been able to find out, the Pentax version of pixel shifting works somewhat differently from Olympus. The Olympus moves the sensor to enable a 50mp file, the Pentax moves the sensor to give each pixel point benefit of all three colors, thereby improving color depth. bill -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3II announcement and new FA Limited primes coming...
On 4/21/2015 7:13 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 22.04.15 um 00:09 schrieb Brian Walters: ... it will have "The high-resolution image by pixel shifting." ...and built-in GPS. Not enough to make me flog off my K-3 and buy the K-3 II but annoying just as well. The display of my Garmin portable is slowly dying and the clip-on GPS module for the K-3 is awfully big. Ralf I expect the built in GPS & high-resolution pixel shifting will be in the FF DSLR semi-announced for this fall, along with the built in flash going away. Makes more sense of why the mockup they showed didn't have the lines you would expect for the pop-up flash. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
