Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Paul, the Irfanview (a freeware image viewer/editor, like ACDsee) can create HTML pages with thumbnails and links to larger files in its thumbnail mode. www.irfanview.com I think. The files are pretty simple-coded, that makes them easy to edit like adding your own header/footer, signature, home link etc. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Thanks Frantisek. I'll check it out. I have to get back to working on the website, but I'm having too much fun taking photographs. Paul Frantisek Vlcek wrote: Paul, the Irfanview (a freeware image viewer/editor, like ACDsee) can create HTML pages with thumbnails and links to larger files in its thumbnail mode. www.irfanview.com I think. The files are pretty simple-coded, that makes them easy to edit like adding your own header/footer, signature, home link etc. Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Paul, Thanks for the reply. I've read alot of the comments posted by other pdml folk and will go with the advice shared here. My post only appeared yesterday, look when I sent it(24th Dec.)! I will start on this on Ist Jan. Malcolm -) Thanks. I invested a couple of hours in trying to find some method of putting up a web site. Once I found a means of accomplishing it (thanks to Shel), it only took a couple of hours or less to construct. However, I want to remake it with thumbnails, rather than a bunch of large photos coming up at once. Paul Malcolm Smith wrote: Looks good Paul. I entered a local paper competition recently and, to my astonishment, won some web building software. I can now see a use for it; how much time have you invested in this? Your photos have very varied subjects - most interesting. Malcolm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Thanks. I invested a couple of hours in trying to find some method of putting up a web site. Once I found a means of accomplishing it (thanks to Shel), it only took a couple of hours or less to construct. However, I want to remake it with thumbnails, rather than a bunch of large photos coming up at once. Paul Malcolm Smith wrote: Looks good Paul. I entered a local paper competition recently and, to my astonishment, won some web building software. I can now see a use for it; how much time have you invested in this? Your photos have very varied subjects - most interesting. Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 24 December 2001 01:58 To: Pentax Discuss Subject: A Website (Hey, I'm trying) After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Dan Scott wrote: How are they turning out? Still happy? You bet. I'm very pleased with the 6x7 format and the 150/2.8. The camera is a joy, and the lens seems quite sharp with great color rendition. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
I agree with Shel and advice against Netscape Composer. However, most visual editors produce more code than really needed. Microsoft Word and FrontPage are some of the worst examples, but it seems that none are perfect. The real problem with this is, imo, that the code is totally unreadable afterwards. The extra bandwidth they produce is not significant. To learn the basics of HTML is relatively simple. The number of code words you need to know is probably between 10 and 20. - I still remember my own pleasure of getting started so quickly when I first wrote some HTML in Notepad five years ago. But even though I'm still something of an hardcoding freak, it's definately not necessary to write all the trivia anymore. Just like Shel says. Templates is really a magic word. There are many free/shareware editors out there that lets you work with templates. That's the one feature I would demand of any HTML editor. Among good alternatives CoffeeCup has been mentioned already. My favourite is Allaire Homesite (developed my own site and the AutoPug with it). It has both a code view, a design view, and a built in simple browser. There's also an extensive help file. Good luck. Can't wait to see your webfolio...:-) Jostein http://oksne.net - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I highly recommend against Composer. I've used it, and it produces messy code with - at least in the version I've used - enough slop and incompatibility with several browsers to make it, if not useless in some situations, a poor choice. I've been playing around writing with writing HTML by hand for a few months now, and while I'm far from an expert, I believe that learning code in such a manner, and understanding the differences in browsers and platforms, will allow for a better final product. And for something as simple as putting up a few pages of photographs, once you've worked through the details to make the code acceptable to the widest audience - i.e., number of browsers and platforms - the rest is just like painting by numbers, and, as you said, filling in the blanks with your preferred images and text. You'll have a great template and will have learned a useful, if not valuable, skill. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Thanks for the tips, Jostein. I'm going to see if I can find Allaire Homesite. Paul Jostein wrote: I agree with Shel and advice against Netscape Composer. However, most visual editors produce more code than really needed. Microsoft Word and FrontPage are some of the worst examples, but it seems that none are perfect. The real problem with this is, imo, that the code is totally unreadable afterwards. The extra bandwidth they produce is not significant. To learn the basics of HTML is relatively simple. The number of code words you need to know is probably between 10 and 20. - I still remember my own pleasure of getting started so quickly when I first wrote some HTML in Notepad five years ago. But even though I'm still something of an hardcoding freak, it's definately not necessary to write all the trivia anymore. Just like Shel says. Templates is really a magic word. There are many free/shareware editors out there that lets you work with templates. That's the one feature I would demand of any HTML editor. Among good alternatives CoffeeCup has been mentioned already. My favourite is Allaire Homesite (developed my own site and the AutoPug with it). It has both a code view, a design view, and a built in simple browser. There's also an extensive help file. Good luck. Can't wait to see your webfolio...:-) Jostein http://oksne.net - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I highly recommend against Composer. I've used it, and it produces messy code with - at least in the version I've used - enough slop and incompatibility with several browsers to make it, if not useless in some situations, a poor choice. I've been playing around writing with writing HTML by hand for a few months now, and while I'm far from an expert, I believe that learning code in such a manner, and understanding the differences in browsers and platforms, will allow for a better final product. And for something as simple as putting up a few pages of photographs, once you've worked through the details to make the code acceptable to the widest audience - i.e., number of browsers and platforms - the rest is just like painting by numbers, and, as you said, filling in the blanks with your preferred images and text. You'll have a great template and will have learned a useful, if not valuable, skill. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Paul ... I believe that you might be better off writing some simple code yourself, just using a text editor. I use Notepad and put my entire site together with just that and some HTML checking programs to be sure there were no errors in the code. My site is simple, but as Jostein mentioned, you only have to know a few code words. Then, once you understand the basics (and there are numerous tutorials on line that offer help along with examples of code to use as templates for your own designs) a WYSIWYG editor, or other types/styles of editors, can be helpful. I tried Composer today while putting together an addendum to the Filter factor page I put up. Ghastly! It was actually more work to use Composer than it was to write the whole thing in Notepad, since I could cut-and-paste the layout and cell information. What I see is that you're getting advice from several people, all with different experiences, needs, and preferences. I think, though, that you must find your own way WRT the how of doing the coding, but, IAC, you must learn something about coding before deciding on the way that's right for you. When I was getting started Bill Robb helped me a lot. The thing was, I knew so little, I didn't understand what he was trying to show me. Only after visiting a few tutorial sites, and actually writing a simple template to put up a photograph, did i start to understand what he was telling me. During the early part of my learning process I visited a number of web sites and pages, and copied the code from any that looked interesting. I used those templates as study tools, and sometimes played with them to see what making certain changes would look like. After some time it became clear as to what I wanted to do, and, lo and behold, when I went back to what Bill sent me, I actually understood it. Rob Studdert was helpful, too, and offered his own style and approach - again very helpful, although some of it was a little too advanced for me to understand. There were also a few others on the list who, when I put up a page, offered suggestions for writing better code, or things that I should be concerned about when writing code. I don't believe there's a shortcut to learning this stuff, but with a few minutes of your time and a text editor, I know you can put up your first page with the information you already have. Just start small - put up one picture, place it somewhere on the page, set a border around it and a background color for the page, and with just about a dozen lines of code, you're in business. Let the list comment on how it looks and the coding. Make the changes that appeal to you, make a note of all the criticism, use the results as a template for every other picture you put up. Then learn how to link the picture to a thumbnail or text. Again quite simple, although if you're like me, you may stumble a bit. Once you've got that done, it's a simple matter to make an entire site of pictures, using thumbnail galleries or links. Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks for the tips, Jostein. I'm going to see if I can find Allaire Homesite. Paul Jostein wrote: I agree with Shel and advice against Netscape Composer. However, most visual editors produce more code than really needed. Microsoft Word and FrontPage are some of the worst examples, but it seems that none are perfect. The real problem with this is, imo, that the code is totally unreadable afterwards. The extra bandwidth they produce is not significant. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
In local.pentax, you wrote: I guess I'm going to try to learn as much as I can. Richard's site si quite stunning on my browser and screen. However I'm at 1280 x 1024, and my simple Click and Build looks good on my monitor as well. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a consistent standard? I suppose it's coming, but it may take a while. Paul HTML is not too hard to learn. Just keep it simple and don't waste time on positioning your website components. Let the browser take care of the formatting. Also, when previewing your page, resize the browser window and see what happens. `Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing' may be helpful too. It is available at http://www.arsdigita.com/books/panda/ . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Thanks Johan. Johan Schoone wrote: In local.pentax, you wrote: I guess I'm going to try to learn as much as I can. Richard's site si quite stunning on my browser and screen. However I'm at 1280 x 1024, and my simple Click and Build looks good on my monitor as well. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a consistent standard? I suppose it's coming, but it may take a while. Paul HTML is not too hard to learn. Just keep it simple and don't waste time on positioning your website components. Let the browser take care of the formatting. Also, when previewing your page, resize the browser window and see what happens. `Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing' may be helpful too. It is available at http://www.arsdigita.com/books/panda/ . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Looks good Paul. I entered a local paper competition recently and, to my astonishment, won some web building software. I can now see a use for it; how much time have you invested in this? Your photos have very varied subjects - most interesting. Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 24 December 2001 01:58 To: Pentax Discuss Subject: A Website (Hey, I'm trying) After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001 20:58:23 -0500, you wrote: After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. Good for you. I worried two years about how hard it must be, then one Friday night decided to take the plunge. By the next afternoon I knew enough HTML to get by, and put up a group of pages that same day. The hard part is taking time to update regularly and keep the site fresh. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, Lots of software will do the thumbnail thing for you. Some of it is free or nearly free. I use a quirky program called imagENGine which does a whole lot of batch processing and web page building very neatly. Awhile back. I downloaded a copy of Wilbur, which is a file containing the list of HTML codes and their proper uses. I was amazed at how few actual codes one needs to know in HTML. I gradually built a few pages to gain experience. Only when one goes to scripts and style sheets and other such stuff does the coding become more challenging. Nowadays I stick to imagENGine to generate thumbnails and resized images, and Front Page Express to modify the pages. Ocasionally I use Photoshop when resizing just one image. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Thanks Wendy, I'll probably end up replacing the whole site with some other templates, perhaps the PUG style or one of Shel's. The pages I used are from Earthlink's Click Build system, which is fairly inflexible as far as I can tell. In other words, you can't modify things or move them around. All you can do is fill in the blanks, loading up your own pics and typography. Paul wendy beard wrote: Paul, Well done, it's hard if you've never done this sort of thing before. If you haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, then one trick if you have files of varying dimensions is to give them a page each. I use coffee cup software's html editor (www.coffeecup.com) which is incredibly simple - but I'm not ready to let you lot see my web pages just yet!!! This software has the ability to create thumbnail images for you and also has built in ftp capabilities so you can upload your pages directly. There are probably trillions of other programs that do this too but I'm a simple kinda gal! I nearly missed your gallery link on the index page, so I'd move it up to above your e-mail link. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your portfolio! Wendy At 06:57 24-12-2001 -0500, you wrote: After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Paul, I enjoyed your website photos, particularly the Mexico City sanctuary (though it's a shame the top part of the sanctuary is slightly cropped - still, can't have everything!) and I was amazed by the colors in leaf and pine. As far as your website construction is concerned, could I highly recommend getting hold of Netscape Composer? It's free for download from www.netscape.com. It's part of the Netscape browser, just select file then edit page and you're in Composer. It's pretty much a what you see is what you get editor, and you never have to look at another line of HTML again, if you don't want to! I've noticed a phenomenon with people who start to create their own website; many people start and then reach a plateau, not adding more stuff to their website because it's slightly burdensome. That's where I think Composer helps a lot - you can concentrate on your photography and leave the details of web development to Composer. To me, it's a bit like the rabbit and the hare: some people start out doing fancy stuff manually but soon give up, but if you keep it simple then you can concentrate on the content and it's easy to add new pages. With simple blank templates you can quickly put up a new page just replacing the template images with your new photographic images. Sorry to hear about your hard drive crash, and Merry Christmas/Hannukah/Eid/Kwaanza, etc... Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com --- original message --- From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
I highly recommend against Composer. I've used it, and it produces messy code with - at least in the version I've used - enough slop and incompatibility with several browsers to make it, if not useless in some situations, a poor choice. I've been playing around writing with writing HTML by hand for a few months now, and while I'm far from an expert, I believe that learning code in such a manner, and understanding the differences in browsers and platforms, will allow for a better final product. And for something as simple as putting up a few pages of photographs, once you've worked through the details to make the code acceptable to the widest audience - i.e., number of browsers and platforms - the rest is just like painting by numbers, and, as you said, filling in the blanks with your preferred images and text. You'll have a great template and will have learned a useful, if not valuable, skill. Richard Seaman wrote: As far as your website construction is concerned, could I highly recommend getting hold of Netscape Composer? It's free for download from www.netscape.com. It's part of the Netscape browser, just select file then edit page and you're in Composer. It's pretty much a what you see is what you get editor, and you never have to look at another line of HTML again, if you don't want to! I've noticed a phenomenon with people who start to create their own website; many people start and then reach a plateau, not adding more stuff to their website because it's slightly burdensome. That's where I think Composer helps a lot - you can concentrate on your photography and leave the details of web development to Composer. To me, it's a bit like the rabbit and the hare: some people start out doing fancy stuff manually but soon give up, but if you keep it simple then you can concentrate on the content and it's easy to add new pages. With simple blank templates you can quickly put up a new page just replacing the template images with your new photographic images. Sorry to hear about your hard drive crash, and Merry Christmas/Hannukah/Eid/Kwaanza, etc... Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com --- original message --- From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Thanks for the tip. I have Composer as part of Netscape Communicator. I thought I might redo my site based on the PUG format. That would give me a lot of linked thumbnails to work with. You're right about being complacent once something is up. But I'm going to try not to do that. I visited your site. It's absolutely stunning. It gives me something to shoot for. Happy holidays, Paul Richard Seaman wrote: Paul, I enjoyed your website photos, particularly the Mexico City sanctuary (though it's a shame the top part of the sanctuary is slightly cropped - still, can't have everything!) and I was amazed by the colors in leaf and pine. As far as your website construction is concerned, could I highly recommend getting hold of Netscape Composer? It's free for download from www.netscape.com. It's part of the Netscape browser, just select file then edit page and you're in Composer. It's pretty much a what you see is what you get editor, and you never have to look at another line of HTML again, if you don't want to! I've noticed a phenomenon with people who start to create their own website; many people start and then reach a plateau, not adding more stuff to their website because it's slightly burdensome. That's where I think Composer helps a lot - you can concentrate on your photography and leave the details of web development to Composer. To me, it's a bit like the rabbit and the hare: some people start out doing fancy stuff manually but soon give up, but if you keep it simple then you can concentrate on the content and it's easy to add new pages. With simple blank templates you can quickly put up a new page just replacing the template images with your new photographic images. Sorry to hear about your hard drive crash, and Merry Christmas/Hannukah/Eid/Kwaanza, etc... Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com --- original message --- From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
I guess I'm going to try to learn as much as I can. Richard's site si quite stunning on my browser and screen. However I'm at 1280 x 1024, and my simple Click and Build looks good on my monitor as well. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a consistent standard? I suppose it's coming, but it may take a while. Paul Shel Belinkoff wrote: I highly recommend against Composer. I've used it, and it produces messy code with - at least in the version I've used - enough slop and incompatibility with several browsers to make it, if not useless in some situations, a poor choice. I've been playing around writing with writing HTML by hand for a few months now, and while I'm far from an expert, I believe that learning code in such a manner, and understanding the differences in browsers and platforms, will allow for a better final product. And for something as simple as putting up a few pages of photographs, once you've worked through the details to make the code acceptable to the widest audience - i.e., number of browsers and platforms - the rest is just like painting by numbers, and, as you said, filling in the blanks with your preferred images and text. You'll have a great template and will have learned a useful, if not valuable, skill. Richard Seaman wrote: As far as your website construction is concerned, could I highly recommend getting hold of Netscape Composer? It's free for download from www.netscape.com. It's part of the Netscape browser, just select file then edit page and you're in Composer. It's pretty much a what you see is what you get editor, and you never have to look at another line of HTML again, if you don't want to! I've noticed a phenomenon with people who start to create their own website; many people start and then reach a plateau, not adding more stuff to their website because it's slightly burdensome. That's where I think Composer helps a lot - you can concentrate on your photography and leave the details of web development to Composer. To me, it's a bit like the rabbit and the hare: some people start out doing fancy stuff manually but soon give up, but if you keep it simple then you can concentrate on the content and it's easy to add new pages. With simple blank templates you can quickly put up a new page just replacing the template images with your new photographic images. Sorry to hear about your hard drive crash, and Merry Christmas/Hannukah/Eid/Kwaanza, etc... Richard. home page: www.richard-seaman.com --- original message --- From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] After considerable knashing of teeth and whining to Shel about how hard this is, I have finally managed to construct the beginnings of a website. I still haven't figured out the thumbnail thing, so I have to apologize for a page of medium size jpegs, but at least it's a page :-). And I don't think these would be the photos I would choose to define my work, but, hey, they were hanging around on my hard drive. So with all those disclaimers, it's here http://home.earthlink.net/~pnstenquist/index.html _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
If you check out Richard's code you'll see that he appears to have used a program other than Composer to create the site. Further, he's used some specific coding that allows the page to come up in a readable form on many browsers and screen sizes. However, being readable is not always the same thing as looking good, but given the choice, I'll take readable and usable any day over something that jumbles the visuals on one system or another. Again I'm far - very far - from an expert here, so take my comments with a bit of skepticism. OTOH, nothing, imho, beats some hands-on experience writing code. I suppose it's like the difference between manual and automatic cameras - and you know on which side of that argument I stand g Paul Stenquist wrote: I guess I'm going to try to learn as much as I can. Richard's site si quite stunning on my browser and screen. However I'm at 1280 x 1024, and my simple Click and Build looks good on my monitor as well. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a consistent standard? I suppose it's coming, but it may take a while. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I suppose it's like the difference between manual and automatic cameras - and you know on which side of that argument I stand g I'm right there with you on that one, pal. Have a good one. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
