Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
On 4/28/2010 2:40 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:
Best DSLR: Entry Level
http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php
That is a heck of an accomplishment, I don't care what anybody else says.
Darren Addy
Kearney, NE
Maybe, but when you have categories, like Best Prestige Camera with
the Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point of the category? What else
is there in it's class?
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RE: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
On 4/28/2010 2:40 PM, CheekyGeek wrote: Best DSLR: Entry Level http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php That is a heck of an accomplishment, I don't care what anybody else says. Darren Addy Kearney, NE Maybe, but when you have categories, like Best Prestige Camera with the Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point of the category? What else is there in it's class? I used to have a Prestige pressure cooker. It made very nice Hungarian goulash. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
These for starters: http://entry-level-dslr-camera-review.toptenreviews.com/ I'd add the Canon XSi in there, as well. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe, but when you have categories, like Best Prestige Camera with the Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point of the category? “Guard against the prestige of great names; see that your judgments are your own; and do not shrink from disagreement; no trusting without testing” ~ John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton (English Historian, 1834-1902) Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- The camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera. ~ Dorothea Lange 98% of all cameras and lenses are sharper than 99% of all photographers. ~ Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
On 4/28/2010 3:10 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe, but when you have categories, like Best Prestige Camera with the
Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point of the category?
Yes, the name is important. It helps it's status as a Velben Good. I
think it's the only current camera that's a Velben Good.
“Guard against the prestige of great names; see that your judgments
are your own; and do not shrink from disagreement; no trusting without
testing”
~ John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton (English Historian, 1834-1902)
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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
Veblen Good. But we know what you meant. At least I did after Googling it. : \ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
Dam, we are back to entry level. Will this madness never end. Dave On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:40 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: Best DSLR: Entry Level http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php That is a heck of an accomplishment, I don't care what anybody else says. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- The camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera. ~ Dorothea Lange 98% of all cameras and lenses are sharper than 99% of all photographers. ~ Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x
At least I misspelled it consistently.
On 4/28/2010 3:24 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:
Veblen Good. But we know what you meant.
At least I did after Googling it.
: \
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good
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Re: congrats to pentax
[..] Whatever complaining to start soon, this is the first good news in a long time. [..] This is inevitable! ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On 9/13/06 9:33 AM, danilo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really happy to see this happening, as pentax was my first love, and still occupy a part of my heart. I'm happy for you too, pentax users, for the great opportunity it gives you. I'm happy for me also, maybe one day I could come back to the bright(er) side of the viewfinder ;) Indeed! I am amazed to see how patient these list members have been (really). They must really like Pentax (or got stuck with it :-). Whatever complaining to start soon, this is the first good news in a long time. Pentax are really serious in achieving 20% market share, eh? :-). As Shel pointed out, I really hope Pentax are turning the corner, and keep pumping out many more creative and value-for-money products as they once were. Hope they won't run out of steam. Cheers, Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
I think they are - the DS/DL series did very well, and have added a number of converts, the K100D is selling like crazy and is receiving good media coverage and good reviews, and the K10D offers a lot for the money and some innovative features, and, apart from this list, is generating a lot of good buzz. The only down side - if you can call it that - is that the world of the DSLR changes rapidly, and it may be hard for Pentax to keep up with Canon, or even Nikon. Still, I think those who are not in need of the latest and greatest fluff offerings, will be quite satisfied with Pentax for some time. I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Shel [Original Message] From: K.Takeshita [...] I really hope Pentax are turning the corner, and keep pumping out many more creative and value-for-money products as they once were. Hope they won't run out of steam. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On 13.09.2006, at 15:47 , K.Takeshita wrote: As Shel pointed out, I really hope Pentax are turning the corner, and keep pumping out many more creative and value-for-money products as they once were. Hope they won't run out of steam. Hopefully they won't, especially supported by Samsung's ;- Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
-- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Let the speculation begin. Does anyone have the press release? :-)) Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On 9/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Let the speculation begin. Does anyone have the press release? :-)) Paul Weeell.whistles nameless tune Dave :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 07:18:55AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think they are - the DS/DL series did very well, and have added a number of converts, the K100D is selling like crazy and is receiving good media coverage and good reviews, and the K10D offers a lot for the money and some innovative features, and, apart from this list, is generating a lot of good buzz. The only down side - if you can call it that - is that the world of the DSLR changes rapidly, and it may be hard for Pentax to keep up with Canon, or even Nikon. Still, I think those who are not in need of the latest and greatest fluff offerings, will be quite satisfied with Pentax for some time. I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Shel I don't anticipate one. While the K10D doesn't quite come up to my hopes as far as frame rate and flash sync speed are concerned, it's good enough for well over 99% of my scenarios. And even there the frame rate will probably get updated in a K10Dn/K20D in a year or two. So - what would be added in a K1D? Full frame? Aperture simulator? If you ask me, neither of those will ever show up in a K-mount DSLR. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
Well, a camera that makes your 99th percentile is pretty good. I've no idea what a K1D would be like ... maybe features wouldn't be added, but some might be greatly improved. Personally, I'd like to see, even as an add on in place of the grip, an alarm clock/coffeemaker/TV combo, so the camera can get me up in time to catch an early sunrise and I can tune to the weather channel to see if I should get out of bed. Shel [Original Message] From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... I don't anticipate one. While the K10D doesn't quite come up to my hopes as far as frame rate and flash sync speed are concerned, it's good enough for well over 99% of my scenarios. And even there the frame rate will probably get updated in a K10Dn/K20D in a year or two. So - what would be added in a K1D? Full frame? Aperture simulator? If you ask me, neither of those will ever show up in a K-mount DSLR. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 07:18:55AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think they are - the DS/DL series did very well, and have added a number of converts, the K100D is selling like crazy and is receiving good media coverage and good reviews, and the K10D offers a lot for the money and some innovative features, and, apart from this list, is generating a lot of good buzz. The only down side - if you can call it that - is that the world of the DSLR changes rapidly, and it may be hard for Pentax to keep up with Canon, or even Nikon. Still, I think those who are not in need of the latest and greatest fluff offerings, will be quite satisfied with Pentax for some time. I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Shel I don't anticipate one. While the K10D doesn't quite come up to my hopes as far as frame rate and flash sync speed are concerned, it's good enough for well over 99% of my scenarios. And even there the frame rate will probably get updated in a K10Dn/K20D in a year or two. So - what would be added in a K1D? Full frame? Aperture simulator? If you ask me, neither of those will ever show up in a K-mount DSLR. My wishlist for the K1D. 12.4MP DX format sensor. 5fps with 8fps in High Speed crop mode (approx 6.8MP at 2x crop). 20 RAW and 45+ JPEG Buffer. 30+ segment metering, spot metering linkable to active AF point. 1/8000 shutter, 1/250 flash sync. ISO 50-6400 with current noise levels at 100-3200 (I expect 6400 to be almost unusably noisy, but it's a life-saver in the right situation). Removable grip. Body takes current Li-Ion pack or AA/CR-V3. grip takes 2 current packs, 3 CR-V3's or 6AA's on a carrier or a high-capacity Li-Ion of approximately 2500mAh (a la Nikon EN-EL4a). Aperture simulator, multi-segment metering with non-A lenses (via data input like Nikon D2/D200 and SR system in K10D/K100D). 100% finder at .95x magnification with auto darkening outside the crop-line for HSC mode a la D2Xs. Improved AF algorithm and more powerful AF motor. SR and anti-dust. Full Sealing. All major controls accessed via buttons and wheels. Dual meter readouts vertically along the right side of the finder so that flash exposure compensation and ambient exposure can be displayed at the same time (like EOS 3 and later EOS 1's). Exposure Compensation Priority + Shift mode added (Allows standard Nikon/Canon style program shift with instant exposure compensation on the other wheel, like dual-wheel Canon's can do). Built-in IR flash commander (Pop-up RTF-style or just perched on the prism) with 3 group command ability for AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ, also functions as IR AF assist (like Canon ST-E2). No actual RTF flash. Price? $4000USD. In other words a D2Xs in K mount with additional battery compatibility and a removable grip, Hyper-Program and and some improvement. For a similar cost. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On 9/13/06 12:46 PM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wishlist for the K1D. Now that the K10D has been announced (well, sort of), let the (another cycle of) show begin. After all, this is PDML :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
It's the glass Ken, it gets in your blood. K.Takeshita wrote: On 9/13/06 9:33 AM, danilo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really happy to see this happening, as pentax was my first love, and still occupy a part of my heart. I'm happy for you too, pentax users, for the great opportunity it gives you. I'm happy for me also, maybe one day I could come back to the bright(er) side of the viewfinder ;) Indeed! I am amazed to see how patient these list members have been (really). They must really like Pentax (or got stuck with it :-). Whatever complaining to start soon, this is the first good news in a long time. Pentax are really serious in achieving 20% market share, eh? :-). As Shel pointed out, I really hope Pentax are turning the corner, and keep pumping out many more creative and value-for-money products as they once were. Hope they won't run out of steam. Cheers, Ken -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On 9/13/06 2:33 PM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the glass Ken, it gets in your blood. Oh, I forgot about it in the heat of the excitement :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
Does anyone have the press release? :-)) No, but the rumor is it fixes all the problems with the K10D ;+) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: congrats to pentax -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Let the speculation begin. Does anyone have the press release? :-)) Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 12:46:59PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: My wishlist for the K1D. [ . . . . ] Price? $4000USD. In other words a D2Xs in K mount with additional battery compatibility and a removable grip, Hyper-Program and and some improvement. For a similar cost. As I said, I don't expect to see one. Pentax have made it pretty clear that their offering in the pro market will be the 645D, and that the K-mount bodies are for the consumer and advanced consumer market. (If Pentax did produce such a body, I'd predict a price closer to $2500. But even then I don't think they'd sell enough to make it worthwhile.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 12:46:59PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: My wishlist for the K1D. [ . . . . ] Price? $4000USD. In other words a D2Xs in K mount with additional battery compatibility and a removable grip, Hyper-Program and and some improvement. For a similar cost. As I said, I don't expect to see one. Pentax have made it pretty clear that their offering in the pro market will be the 645D, and that the K-mount bodies are for the consumer and advanced consumer market. (If Pentax did produce such a body, I'd predict a price closer to $2500. But even then I don't think they'd sell enough to make it worthwhile.) I don't expect it either. But that's the spec and price point I'd aim for with a better-than-K10D body. A $2500 body would be more likely, but wouldn't spec out that well (well, I'm assuming that Nikon is not padding the price of the D2Xs too much). I'd much rather see a K1D than a 645D. I don't think the 645D is particularly viable in todays market, but a serious pro body from Pentax, with SR and D2X level performance would probably sell much better and give Pentax a true flagship, which they haven't had in the AF era. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
On 13/9/06, danilo, discombobulated, unleashed: I've just realized that pentax is releasing a brand new high-end camera Where??? I might switch back. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: congrats to pentax
Adam Maas wrote: John Francis wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 07:18:55AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think they are - the DS/DL series did very well, and have added a number of converts, the K100D is selling like crazy and is receiving good media coverage and good reviews, and the K10D offers a lot for the money and some innovative features, and, apart from this list, is generating a lot of good buzz. The only down side - if you can call it that - is that the world of the DSLR changes rapidly, and it may be hard for Pentax to keep up with Canon, or even Nikon. Still, I think those who are not in need of the latest and greatest fluff offerings, will be quite satisfied with Pentax for some time. I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Shel I don't anticipate one. While the K10D doesn't quite come up to my hopes as far as frame rate and flash sync speed are concerned, it's good enough for well over 99% of my scenarios. And even there the frame rate will probably get updated in a K10Dn/K20D in a year or two. So - what would be added in a K1D? Full frame? Aperture simulator? If you ask me, neither of those will ever show up in a K-mount DSLR. My wishlist for the K1D. 12.4MP DX format sensor. 5fps with 8fps in High Speed crop mode (approx 6.8MP at 2x crop). 20 RAW and 45+ JPEG Buffer. 30+ segment metering, spot metering linkable to active AF point. 1/8000 shutter, 1/250 flash sync. ISO 50-6400 with current noise levels at 100-3200 (I expect 6400 to be almost unusably noisy, but it's a life-saver in the right situation). Removable grip. Body takes current Li-Ion pack or AA/CR-V3. grip takes 2 current packs, 3 CR-V3's or 6AA's on a carrier or a high-capacity Li-Ion of approximately 2500mAh (a la Nikon EN-EL4a). Aperture simulator, multi-segment metering with non-A lenses (via data input like Nikon D2/D200 and SR system in K10D/K100D). 100% finder at .95x magnification with auto darkening outside the crop-line for HSC mode a la D2Xs. Improved AF algorithm and more powerful AF motor. SR and anti-dust. Full Sealing. All major controls accessed via buttons and wheels. Dual meter readouts vertically along the right side of the finder so that flash exposure compensation and ambient exposure can be displayed at the same time (like EOS 3 and later EOS 1's). Exposure Compensation Priority + Shift mode added (Allows standard Nikon/Canon style program shift with instant exposure compensation on the other wheel, like dual-wheel Canon's can do). Built-in IR flash commander (Pop-up RTF-style or just perched on the prism) with 3 group command ability for AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ, also functions as IR AF assist (like Canon ST-E2). No actual RTF flash. Price? $4000USD. In other words a D2Xs in K mount with additional battery compatibility and a removable grip, Hyper-Program and and some improvement. For a similar cost. Hold on a second. Now Pentax has to make money, not to burn it. Body with this kind of features would be a certain loss. Do you think D2Xs and similar bodies are profitable products? Think again... BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hold on a second. Now Pentax has to make money, not to burn it. Body with this kind of features would be a certain loss. Do you think D2Xs and similar bodies are profitable products? Think again... BR, Margus Some of us think that the 645D is already fated for that. At least the K1D as Adam has specified it, would share a lot more subsystems with the K10/K100/K110D cameras. Pentax would be burning a lot less money. Margus Männik wrote: Adam Maas wrote: John Francis wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 07:18:55AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think they are - the DS/DL series did very well, and have added a number of converts, the K100D is selling like crazy and is receiving good media coverage and good reviews, and the K10D offers a lot for the money and some innovative features, and, apart from this list, is generating a lot of good buzz. The only down side - if you can call it that - is that the world of the DSLR changes rapidly, and it may be hard for Pentax to keep up with Canon, or even Nikon. Still, I think those who are not in need of the latest and greatest fluff offerings, will be quite satisfied with Pentax for some time. I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Shel I don't anticipate one. While the K10D doesn't quite come up to my hopes as far as frame rate and flash sync speed are concerned, it's good enough for well over 99% of my scenarios. And even there the frame rate will probably get updated in a K10Dn/K20D in a year or two. So - what would be added in a K1D? Full frame? Aperture simulator? If you ask me, neither of those will ever show up in a K-mount DSLR. My wishlist for the K1D. 12.4MP DX format sensor. 5fps with 8fps in High Speed crop mode (approx 6.8MP at 2x crop). 20 RAW and 45+ JPEG Buffer. 30+ segment metering, spot metering linkable to active AF point. 1/8000 shutter, 1/250 flash sync. ISO 50-6400 with current noise levels at 100-3200 (I expect 6400 to be almost unusably noisy, but it's a life-saver in the right situation). Removable grip. Body takes current Li-Ion pack or AA/CR-V3. grip takes 2 current packs, 3 CR-V3's or 6AA's on a carrier or a high-capacity Li-Ion of approximately 2500mAh (a la Nikon EN-EL4a). Aperture simulator, multi-segment metering with non-A lenses (via data input like Nikon D2/D200 and SR system in K10D/K100D). 100% finder at .95x magnification with auto darkening outside the crop-line for HSC mode a la D2Xs. Improved AF algorithm and more powerful AF motor. SR and anti-dust. Full Sealing. All major controls accessed via buttons and wheels. Dual meter readouts vertically along the right side of the finder so that flash exposure compensation and ambient exposure can be displayed at the same time (like EOS 3 and later EOS 1's). Exposure Compensation Priority + Shift mode added (Allows standard Nikon/Canon style program shift with instant exposure compensation on the other wheel, like dual-wheel Canon's can do). Built-in IR flash commander (Pop-up RTF-style or just perched on the prism) with 3 group command ability for AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ, also functions as IR AF assist (like Canon ST-E2). No actual RTF flash. Price? $4000USD. In other words a D2Xs in K mount with additional battery compatibility and a removable grip, Hyper-Program and and some improvement. For a similar cost. Hold on a second. Now Pentax has to make money, not to burn it. Body with this kind of features would be a certain loss. Do you think D2Xs and similar bodies are profitable products? Think again... BR, Margus -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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P. J. Alling wrote: Hold on a second. Now Pentax has to make money, not to burn it. Body with this kind of features would be a certain loss. Do you think D2Xs and similar bodies are profitable products? Think again... BR, Margus Some of us think that the 645D is already fated for that. At least the K1D as Adam has specified it, would share a lot more subsystems with the K10/K100/K110D cameras. Pentax would be burning a lot less money. Not to mention using proven, off the shelf parts, unlike much of the 645D (including the sensor). -Adam Margus Männik wrote: Adam Maas wrote: John Francis wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 07:18:55AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think they are - the DS/DL series did very well, and have added a number of converts, the K100D is selling like crazy and is receiving good media coverage and good reviews, and the K10D offers a lot for the money and some innovative features, and, apart from this list, is generating a lot of good buzz. The only down side - if you can call it that - is that the world of the DSLR changes rapidly, and it may be hard for Pentax to keep up with Canon, or even Nikon. Still, I think those who are not in need of the latest and greatest fluff offerings, will be quite satisfied with Pentax for some time. I cannot help but wonder if there will be a K1D ... Shel I don't anticipate one. While the K10D doesn't quite come up to my hopes as far as frame rate and flash sync speed are concerned, it's good enough for well over 99% of my scenarios. And even there the frame rate will probably get updated in a K10Dn/K20D in a year or two. So - what would be added in a K1D? Full frame? Aperture simulator? If you ask me, neither of those will ever show up in a K-mount DSLR. My wishlist for the K1D. 12.4MP DX format sensor. 5fps with 8fps in High Speed crop mode (approx 6.8MP at 2x crop). 20 RAW and 45+ JPEG Buffer. 30+ segment metering, spot metering linkable to active AF point. 1/8000 shutter, 1/250 flash sync. ISO 50-6400 with current noise levels at 100-3200 (I expect 6400 to be almost unusably noisy, but it's a life-saver in the right situation). Removable grip. Body takes current Li-Ion pack or AA/CR-V3. grip takes 2 current packs, 3 CR-V3's or 6AA's on a carrier or a high-capacity Li-Ion of approximately 2500mAh (a la Nikon EN-EL4a). Aperture simulator, multi-segment metering with non-A lenses (via data input like Nikon D2/D200 and SR system in K10D/K100D). 100% finder at .95x magnification with auto darkening outside the crop-line for HSC mode a la D2Xs. Improved AF algorithm and more powerful AF motor. SR and anti-dust. Full Sealing. All major controls accessed via buttons and wheels. Dual meter readouts vertically along the right side of the finder so that flash exposure compensation and ambient exposure can be displayed at the same time (like EOS 3 and later EOS 1's). Exposure Compensation Priority + Shift mode added (Allows standard Nikon/Canon style program shift with instant exposure compensation on the other wheel, like dual-wheel Canon's can do). Built-in IR flash commander (Pop-up RTF-style or just perched on the prism) with 3 group command ability for AF360FGZ and AF540FGZ, also functions as IR AF assist (like Canon ST-E2). No actual RTF flash. Price? $4000USD. In other words a D2Xs in K mount with additional battery compatibility and a removable grip, Hyper-Program and and some improvement. For a similar cost. Hold on a second. Now Pentax has to make money, not to burn it. Body with this kind of features would be a certain loss. Do you think D2Xs and similar bodies are profitable products? Think again... BR, Margus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention using proven, off the shelf parts, unlike much of the 645D (including the sensor). REPLY: The 645D chassis, mirror box, finder system, shutter assembly are right off the shelf. The camera electronics is almost certainly identical to the K10D or K100D just redesigned for a different circuitry board. Much of the image processing electronics is proably similar to the K-mount offerings. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Francis wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 12:46:59PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: My wishlist for the K1D. [ . . . . ] Price? $4000USD. In other words a D2Xs in K mount with additional battery compatibility and a removable grip, Hyper-Program and and some improvement. For a similar cost. As I said, I don't expect to see one. I expect that whether or not we see a higher-spec 35mm-class DSLR will depend mostly on the success of the K10D. If the camera turns out to justify the current excitement (which has gone way beyond the current-Pentax-user crowd) and proved to be a wild success, we assuredly see a higher-spec model. If not, then probably not... -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The press release and some images are now up on dpreview.com. On Sep 13, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention using proven, off the shelf parts, unlike much of the 645D (including the sensor). REPLY: The 645D chassis, mirror box, finder system, shutter assembly are right off the shelf. The camera electronics is almost certainly identical to the K10D or K100D just redesigned for a different circuitry board. Much of the image processing electronics is proably similar to the K-mount offerings. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
