Re: PESO, mystery subject
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 05:58:37PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Can you guess what this is a picture of? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3391120183/sizes/l/in/set-72157615924735969/ No. It's frogspawn coral shot through algae that had been gone over by a snail. When the snail eats, it only harvests about half the algae in almost a checkerboard pattern, which I guess means that the algae grows back a lot faster than if the snail ate a continuous strip. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tele-zooms
Until I got the DA40, the daily driver lens that lived on my K100Ds was the 18-250. I find it to be astonishingly sharp for such a versatile lens. If I knew what I was going to be shooting, I'd put on a prime, or my bigma, but the lens that lived on the camera so it would be ready for almost anything was the 18-250. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: point and shoot
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 01:23:24PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: The Sigma DP2 has a 24mm f/2.8 prime (roughly the angle of view of 50mm on FF) and you can get an accessory optical viewfinder. The camera is about $650.00, though. Not available yet, but should be very soon. Amazon is accepting pre-orders: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001W3429E?ie=UTF8tag=cmrmrs-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B001W3429E It sure looks nice, but it falls well outside my inexpensive requirement. I basically want the digital equivalent of a Canonet. It doesn't appear to exist. And if it did it would probably cost at least as much as the DP2. Grr. This really sucks. I just want something simple that I can pull up to my eye and then throw the photos out on the web when I get home. But all I see is chimp-approved plastic junk with smile recognition. WTF happened to cameras? Am I the only person in the whole wide world that doesn't want a zillion worthless features at the expense of something functional? Most of those features are purely software, so don't add anything to production cost. Each one of them is useful to somebody that might not buy the camera if it didn't have it. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: point and shoot
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:10:27AM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: point and shoot Most of those features are purely software, so don't add anything to production cost. Software writers work for free? A lot do. A lot of software is being written for reasons other than financial motivation. For example a Finnish college kid named Linus Torvalds wrote the basis of an operating system for the fun of it. The upside of this is there is a lot of software available for free, the downside is that if you want to sell your software, it's tough to compete on price with free. No wonder I hammer nails for a living. That industry's been hit even harder than the software industry these days. Writing software is a development cost not a production cost. NRE, Non-Recurring Expense. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: point and shoot
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:17:15PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb wrote: From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: point and shoot This really sucks. I just want something simple that I can pull up to my eye and then throw the photos out on the web when I get home. But all I see is chimp-approved plastic junk with smile recognition. WTF happened to cameras? Am I the only person in the whole wide world that doesn't want a zillion worthless features at the expense of something functional? Most of those features are purely software, so don't add anything to production cost. Software writers work for free? No wonder I hammer nails for a living. Well, they can re-use basically the same code on lots of different cameras, and when you work out the cost per camera it almost *is* free. My point was that once you write the code it doesn't cost any more to put it in 1,000,000 cameras as it does to put it into 1. Likewise a lot of the code, as mentioned, can be reused across model lines. Only the hardware dependent firmware needs to be rewritten for new hardware. What also wouldn't cost a lot more would be to have a feature which disabled all the other features so that we purists could also enjoy the camera. Perhaps some manufacturer will implement this someday... There is a freeware package for hacking canon point and shoot firmware so that you can have exactly the feature set you want. http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK I'll spare you all my open source rant about how a struggling second tier (in sales) company could leverage an amazing amount of talent by opening up the firmware for their cameras. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: point and shoot
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:54:16PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Writing software is a development cost not a production cost. NRE, Non-Recurring Expense. All I believe about Adobe is true then? What do you believe about Adobe? They seem to treat their employees well, a friend got laid off, but got an amazing severance package. They also let employees buy a finite number of copies of their software at about 10% of list (lightroom for $25, photoshop for $40, the big developer suite for $120). -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: point and shoot
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:04:03AM -0400, John Francis wrote: How many copies? Have you still got friends there? Only two copies of the big suites, I don't know how many of the smaller ones. I've only got one friend there at the moment, and having just bought some stuff through him I don't want to be too pushy. Even if you don't have friends there, I bet your wife knows a bunch of people there through the museum. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO garlic bread
Yesterday was the big deadline at work. I ended up going to Andy's BBQ in Santa Clara for dinner with a friend. I hadn't been to Andy's since they were in Campbell and I'm happy to report the quality is as good as ever. We split a two person combination platter, and only managed to make it about halfway through the pile of meat. I liked the way the DOF came out on this shot of the garlic bread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3403826978/sizes/l/in/set-72157616113902015/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO garlic bread
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 12:07:13PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: I swear I can smell the garlic..m! It wasn't quite as garlicy as I often like, but it was toasted on the grill and had a wonderful smokey flavor to it. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO, Hydrant and flower
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:06:22PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Normally, I look for contrasting backgrounds, but when I noticed how well matched the fire hydrant and the flowers were, I had to take some shots. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3424/3391131145_6515b217c7_b.jpg from http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157615925062979/ I like these. My favorite is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3391946398/in/set-72157615925062979/ Just a real nice composition - love the colours, too. Thanks to all for all for the nice comments. My coworkers were rather puzzled to see me taking pictures of the fire hydrant in the parking lot. As I've mentioned, one of my steps in my workflow is to have my girlfriend do a pass to narrow down the shots I work with. This is one of the ones that didn't make her cut, but it was one of my favorites. In addition to personal taste, there seems to be a difference in the shots photographers like, and those that non-photographers like. I suppose that there's a continuum, like there is with jazz where one end of the spectrum is derisively called white wine jazz, because it's what people start out on, like they start drinking white wine before graduating to reds, and the more esoteric jazz that sounds like two radios tuned to different stations. I've seen a fair amount of this dichotomy in taste lately, with the wedding shot thread, the HDR photographer whose shots look like something out of a comic book, and whose website was pointed out to me twice within a week both as a check out this cool stuff and look at this horrible dreck. Perhaps one day, I'll spend effort in trying to categorize what appeals to the different groups. It's also an interesting challenge to come up with terms for the different tastes that don't sound snobbish. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
speaking of shallow DOF, how should I have shot these?
Last week I took a break from work to try to shoot some blossoms. It was too windy to get those shots, but in the process, I got some shots of a snail on the truck of a tree: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616063827912/ Which feel like near misses to me. I wasn't going to post them for not being up to the quality of shots posted here, but as such, they're probably a better opportunity for me to learn. I know that one thing I could have done to make them better is not to try to shoot something that is both in sun and open shade. I tried going back a day or two later, but the snail had moved. Don't you hate fidgety models? In addition to the obvious of lighting, what else should I have done differently? Used a tripod so I could get enough DOF in the shade? Is there a rule of thumb for setting up the plane of focus? Or did I just not choose a workable subject. If you don't want to scan the whole series, perhaps the nearest miss is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3394815820/in/set-72157616063827912/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT/AF: New Nikon camera
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:59:22PM +0100, Timbah! wrote: http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/new-nikon-one-pixel-d41.html A bit of google fu resolved this clue: Bangusetsu -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Blossom
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 06:34:41PM -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: The light has been nice and the blossoms are still here. I'll try not to be too boring with a bunch of 'me too' shots. Very nice. Pentax K20D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, Handheld ISO 200, 1/250 sec @ f/11, manual everything http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0287.htm -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - My finest work
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 02:35:40PM -0400, Matthew Hunt wrote: On this fine spring day, I've put together a gallery of my finest work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157604740698664/ Great set. One of my favorite collections is lolscience: http://community.livejournal.com/lolscience/ A few of them: http://community.livejournal.com/lolscience/35568.html http://community.livejournal.com/lolscience/46257.html http://community.livejournal.com/lolscience/7834.html -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: First shots from my new K100D Super
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 01:28:31PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: So I took some shots around the homestead this afternoon with my new K100D Super. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalingprose/sets/72157616140170257/ I particularly liked the fence shot. I like this little camera. Now you see why I didn't want to sell mine even after I got the K20d. Once you set it up to allow shots with aperture ring in the menu, you can get it to set the exposure with manual lenses by hitting the AEL button. The other setup thing that I found very handy is to program the OK button to disable autofocus. In low light I'll use a half press of the shutter to pre-focus, then use the OK button to disable autofocus so that when I press the shutter there's no lag as the camera struggles with focus. P.S. Welcome to the borg. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Downtown walk
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:27:07PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com Subject: GESO: Downtown walk Took the camera for a walk downtown today. So you opted for the mobility option ! ;+] Looks like you have a 'thing' for opennings. doors windows We'll have to start calling him El Capitan del Portal to mangle a couple of Yosemeity names. Nice captures - continue enjoying the new camera. I agree. On both counts. If you get the chance, borrow a DA40 to put on the camera and spend a day wandering around with. The combination of size, quality and price of that duo is amazing. There are faster lenses, and sharper lenses, but that combination is just downright fun to shoot with. The FA43 is a bit sharper, and a bit faster, but it's just enough bigger especially with the lens hood, that the combination is no longer point-n-shoot-zilla. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
do any m42 adapters do auto stopdown?
The m42 lenses stop down by pushing in on the rod. The k-mount stop down by pushing sideways on a lever. I can imagine something where the widget that pushes sideway on a lever, would push on a hinged doo-hickey (pardon the technical engineering jargon) that then pushed on the rod on the lens. Does such an m42 to k-mount adapter exist? On a related note, is what we call m42 the same as what machinists call M42? http://www.besly.com/catl/catl4124ps.htm#M42 -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
if price is a consideration, I like bibble. 5.0 in beta is supposed to be a lot better than 4.10. You can try a free demo. For free there is DCRaw an ufraw and the gimp. If you aren't a computer geek that does hexidecimal math in your head and designs user interfaces of your own, the advantage of adobe software is that everybody uses it and it is very easy to get help and advice. Is it worth $100 for you to not have to get very good at using a computer? My suggestion is to start off with something free, and look or wait for deals. If you shoot in Raw you can always go back and process again later. Meanwhile there's more than enough to learn about your camera. On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:18:51PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Okay, a couple questions... Why don't you all like the Pentax RAW software? Which software do you like, and why? -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO garlic bread
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:52:07PM +1100, Brian Walters wrote: Yes, the DoF works well here although I think I'd rather eat the bread than photograph it (but I suspect you did both). Note the size of the basket. Note how much garlic bread is in it. That was the first of two baskets. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: point and shoot
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:10:37AM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote: home electronics which have teeny tiny control buttons that are black on a black surface to make sure you can't see what you are doing. That's what you get when you have Hotblack Desiatto design home electronics for you. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:24:28AM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: Adam Maas wrote: So Lightroom adds extra steps (Import) in order to gain features I don't want (the Library) but can't get away from (The Library once again). That's exactly how I feel about Lightroom, and most of the other programs that try to organize photos ... they never seem to organize them the way I want to. Exactly, I want it to scan my photos and organize them by putting the best shots first. On a more plausible note, it should not be too hard to write some image processing filters that detect when nothing is in focus (yes, I can see cases of false positives), when the raw data is severely clipped, and probably even blurs by camera motion and propose those shots as probable rejects. I shoot dancers a lot, and the lighting at dances tends to be very uneven. Occasionally someone in, for example, a red shirt may dance with, or next to someone with a white shirt, allowing me to set the color balance. I'd like to then be able to mark that shirt as that shade of red, or beige, or whatever and use that to set the color balance for every scene that dancer is in, whether or not someone is wearing white or grey. Yes, I know that with a highly saturated color, it would work miserably. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:55:22AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: It's funny that one of the major features that I love about Lightroom is something that others find to be a pain. The importing for me is just a minor step. I love the fact that I can locate images from 3 years ago in just a few seconds - and LR even knows which DVD or disk image I need to bring up to get at the image (but has a little thumbnail already in there so I know that I've found what I'm looking for). Perhaps you can tell me how to handle an issue. My iMac doesn't have huge amounts of disk space, and it's not trivial to add a bigger drive. So my process: 1) copy the files from my SD card onto my linux desktop (with huge disks). 2) scp them over to my iMac in the (this year) pictures 2009 directory. 3) Import that directory into lightroom. This is where it starts getting unweildy. Since I shoot a lot (I average about 80-100 frames a day) I end up with 5-10 directories (folders) of files a week. Every couple of months I need to to start a new library so that the library doesn't become unwieldy. Changing between libraries is a PiTA. It has to close and restart LR. Problem 1) A card may have several sessions from a day. Yesterday I shot some flowers at the office, some farm machinery by the road and at a dance. I can create subdirectories, and move photos from the top level directory into lower directories, but they still show up, so I can't easily choose between what is left. In other words, I move photos out of the top level directory, but they still show up in the top level directory. Problem 2) I've realized that having pix2009 is not right, under pix2009 I should have 0901, 0902, 0903 with shots from January, Feb, March etc. Since I name my files by date then subject 090401_flowers, 090328_birds etc it's trivial to move the files into new subdirectories: mkdir p0901 mv 0901* p0901 mkdir p0902 mv 0902* p0902 with a few minutes of work I could write a bash script to do this. But, as I understand it, Lightroom will get confused because it still thinks that those files are under pix2009 not pix2009/p0901 pix2009/p0902 etc. Problem 3) Every so often my internal drive fills up, and I have to move the directories over to an external drive, and I've got no idea how lightroom will handle that if I go back to edit old files. With bibble, the .bib files for each photo were in the same directory as the raw file. My problem with this software may be from the fact that I use a mac because it's unix, rather than I'm using a unix machine because that's what the mac UI is on top of. I prefer the intuitive command line to the arcane and confusing graphical user interface. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 03:29:06PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: I am really impressed with iPhoto's conversions of my photos. Here's a gallery comparing a 3200 iso shot converted with Bibble and iPhoto. http://is.gd/qmKQ When I tried iPhoto I found it to be the single worst user interface that I have ever had the misfortune to use. It was the epitome of the macintologist philosophy that if you don't want to do something our way, you are Shit Out of Luck. My first gripe was the fact that it put every photo into the same library, no matter how big and clunky that made the library, or if for example you had some photos that you didn't want to share with everybody that might look through the library. There was, it turned out, an aftermarket program that would change which library it looked at, but there were many other things about iPhoto that I absolutely despised. It may have improved since then, but the memories of trying to use it still make my skin crawl. As to noise reduction in Bibble, you do realize that the amount of noise reduction and sharpening in bibble are both adjustable? You can crank up the NR, and recover some of the sharpness by bringing the sharpening back up. I've heard that the best NR algorithm is in DCRAW, that it uses a wavelet algorithm that reduces noise without causing extra smeariness. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 06:18:19PM -0500, Paul Sorenson wrote: Not familiar with the intricacies of the Mac OS, but I'm wondering if you can't use the Linux box as a file server and map that drive to your Mac so it sees the Linux drive as a local drive. In theory that can be done, probably via samba. I've taken a couple of tries at it, and I could play a system administrator in a play, but I wouldn't hire myself to do system administration on anything more complex than a KE sliderule. The benefits of my system are: I've got a virgin backup on an entirely different system than I do my work on. Short of a catastrophe that takes out both systems, I'm fine, and if something takes out the systems the decades of pictures in the family albums are a much bigger loss. I do my work on a local copy. No network latency or speed issues. After 6 months or so, I don't often go back to old shots, so I don't mind them being on an external drive. I may, eventually, want to rethink the three tier storage. I'll have to check out that lightroom book that was recommended. -p Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:55:22AM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: It's funny that one of the major features that I love about Lightroom is something that others find to be a pain. The importing for me is just a minor step. I love the fact that I can locate images from 3 years ago in just a few seconds - and LR even knows which DVD or disk image I need to bring up to get at the image (but has a little thumbnail already in there so I know that I've found what I'm looking for). Perhaps you can tell me how to handle an issue. My iMac doesn't have huge amounts of disk space, and it's not trivial to add a bigger drive. So my process: 1) copy the files from my SD card onto my linux desktop (with huge disks). 2) scp them over to my iMac in the (this year) pictures 2009 directory. 3) Import that directory into lightroom. This is where it starts getting unweildy. Since I shoot a lot (I average about 80-100 frames a day) I end up with 5-10 directories (folders) of files a week. Every couple of months I need to to start a new library so that the library doesn't become unwieldy. Changing between libraries is a PiTA. It has to close and restart LR. Problem 1) A card may have several sessions from a day. Yesterday I shot some flowers at the office, some farm machinery by the road and at a dance. I can create subdirectories, and move photos from the top level directory into lower directories, but they still show up, so I can't easily choose between what is left. In other words, I move photos out of the top level directory, but they still show up in the top level directory. Problem 2) I've realized that having pix2009 is not right, under pix2009 I should have 0901, 0902, 0903 with shots from January, Feb, March etc. Since I name my files by date then subject 090401_flowers, 090328_birds etc it's trivial to move the files into new subdirectories: mkdir p0901 mv 0901* p0901 mkdir p0902 mv 0902* p0902 with a few minutes of work I could write a bash script to do this. But, as I understand it, Lightroom will get confused because it still thinks that those files are under pix2009 not pix2009/p0901 pix2009/p0902 etc. Problem 3) Every so often my internal drive fills up, and I have to move the directories over to an external drive, and I've got no idea how lightroom will handle that if I go back to edit old files. With bibble, the .bib files for each photo were in the same directory as the raw file. My problem with this software may be from the fact that I use a mac because it's unix, rather than I'm using a unix machine because that's what the mac UI is on top of. I prefer the intuitive command line to the arcane and confusing graphical user interface. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.38/2037 - Release Date: 04/02/09 06:09:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PP question, sharp and unsharp.
One thing that I haven't been able to find yet is a good description of the mechanism of sharpening, unsharp mask and what all the various knobs, dials and variables do. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LR organizational workflow concepts
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 07:30:37PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: Oh, and I agree entirely on the external drive issue, love them and other than the wall wart issue (they multiply) external drives are much easier to deal with than adding internals. Currently running 2.7TB of drive space on a system with a 320GB boot drive with 1140GB of that in external cases. Do you not see performance disadvantages to external drives? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance
When I left work yesterday, I stopped to shoot a field that has been catching my eye for a couple of years: I think that this may be the best of the lot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408989436 Also, Nick was concerned about the low light performance of the K100. This set was shot at between ISO 200 and 400. It wasn't horribly dark, but it was by no means ideal lighting for action shots. The biggest problem was that the two spots on the band both had yellow gels, making color balance a bit of a challenge. Most of these were shot with the FA 50/1.4, some may have been shot with the FA77. I certainly missed the high iso performance, the larger buffer, and the second dial for iso of the K20. As an aside, if I had waited a couple more weeks, Amazon now has the K20 for $670. I think that the two best shots were both of Irv on the sax: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3409027558/in/set-72157616200776255/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408211857/in/set-72157616200776255/ The whole set is at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616200776255/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Redbuds
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:17:40PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: The sun came out a bit this evening so I had to shoot some more photos! http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/redbuds.html For someone who hates digital, you ain't doin half bad with it. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - tulip dance
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: Having some rendering fun. http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=1073 Very nice. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Quiet Corner
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 12:02:36PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: I had planned on posting this today, then yesterday Godfrey posted his cafe shot and I hesitated, then I decided what the hell: Start a theme for the day. Besides bickering about tools anyways. http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/04/in-quiet-corner.html Great job capturing a mood. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Three Tracks
I liked the closer crop better, and would have actually cropped off more of the sky. On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 02:47:54PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Also shot at the Duck Club. This is what you see looking the other direction when no train is there -- the moth ball fleet. Ships, believe it or not, left over from WWII. They They weren't all WWII era, the Glomar Explorer was parked there for many years. Interesting, I didn't realize it was Project Jennifer, that explains Charlie naming the book The Jennifer Morgue http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/jennifer.htm -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Redbuds
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 06:45:06AM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Haha... I love making photographs. I just decided that the medium doesn't matter as much as I thought it did (especially when I started counting up how much it was going to cost me to keep shooting film). It's not the silly or provocative thing that usually gets Marked, but in a way the above paragraph is more significant than most of them. Every sensor, camera body and film has it's strengths and weaknesses, but they all deal with the same basic physics of light going through a lens. Besides I have been shooting almost all digital since 2001, I ought to know a thing or two about it by now. One would think. Then again I've been shooting since 1973, and I ought to know a lot more about photography in general by now. I don't know what sort of digital cameras that you've been using were, but I wonder how much of you dislike has been the specific camera. Thanks for the compliment though. ;D You earned it. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:39:18PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: RAW software Basically, when I tried it out, Lightroom got in my way at least as often as it helped me. The tools I already have work just fine with my preferred workflow, and don't make me jump through their hoops to do what I want to do. And, I don't know about Lightroom specifically, but with many of the Library oriented, database-based cataloging solutions, God help you if you ever want to rearrange things on the file system after they're in the catalog. I just had to do an OS install and when the machine came back to me my mirrored drive had gone from being G to F. That was fun... It's too bad you couldn't just change a line in /etc/fstab. People say that Windows is so much easier than Unix, but if something like that happened on a Linux box, it would be a 30 second job to remap the drive back to where it was. I don't so much mind operating systems that hold my hand, I do mind when they refuse to let go. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:38:41AM -0400, frank theriault wrote: I think that the two best shots were both of Irv on the sax: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3409027558/in/set-72157616200776255/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408211857/in/set-72157616200776255/ The whole set is at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616200776255/ Both the PESO and the performance gallery are terrific. Thank you. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 09:28:48AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Larry Colen wrote: The whole set is at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616200776255/ Those are really nice, Larry! Your lighting must have been actually pretty good. Take a look at these ones taken with a K100Ds at ISO 1600, all DA* 50-135 ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/sets/72157616071481563/ You got some nice ones too. I think I've got a crush on the cellist. :) I love shooting concerts with my 135. The last 13 shots were taken last Thursday. I've been finding that I can even take acceptable shots at ISO 3200 as long as the most important elements are well exposed. Then I just use ACR's Blacks or curves to fade away the darker portions of the image so the noise isn't very noticeable. That's what I had found. I've been ridiculed for this before, but as I've said, try doing a test, shoot at 3200 in manual, then change nothing but the ISO and continue shoot at 800 and compare the two. The only difference you'll probably see is a few less blown highlights. All in all, the K100 is an amazing low light performer for the money. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PP question, sharp and unsharp.
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:13:59PM -0400, Doug Brewer wrote: Larry Colen wrote: One thing that I haven't been able to find yet is a good description of the mechanism of sharpening, unsharp mask and what all the various knobs, dials and variables do. in general, your PP shouldn't be sharp. Then what's the point? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Open source RAW software
I've been playing with virtualbox and it seems to do a good job for running windows on top of linux. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Three Tracks
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 01:31:53PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: They weren't all WWII era, the Glomar Explorer was parked there for many years. == Yeah, I figured a few were added later, but didn't know that much about it. Interesting, I didn't realize it was Project Jennifer, that explains Charlie naming the book The Jennifer Morgue http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/jennifer.htm == Huh, except it's not Hunter's Point. Okay, let me look it up. I can't come up with the name, it MIGHT be the Port Chicago Shipyard. It's in the Carquinez Straight, near Martinez/Benicia. It's not, as far as I know, a working shipyard, just a storage place. I'm not sure where Hunter's point came in. The Glomar was parked in the Mothball fleet for many years, until it was scrapped. The Glomar, in itself is an interesting story. My friend, Charlie Stross, wrote a book called The Jennifer Morgue that the Glomar plays a part in. I hadn't realized where the name came from until I read that article about Project Jennifer. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Code for analyzing Pentax RAW files
over ISO 1600, so it effectively doesn't do anything but clip highlights. Someone also said something today about you determining that White Balance readings in the camera affect the raw file on some Pentax models. For what it's worth, my degree is EE, and I've been doing embedded software for about 25 years, so I can follow a fairly technical discussion. Thanks, larry -- It's not the steps in the dance, it's the dance in the steps. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx - End forwarded message - -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
Thanks to the folks who pointed out the simple solutions to some of my issues with moving things around in lightroom. Due to many other crunches going on in my life, a lot of basic computer set up and organization has been seriously deferred. Cobblers kids, bare feet and all of that. On a related note, I've been told by various people that swapping harddrives in the flat panel iMacs is significantly less trivial than doing so in their laptops. I haven't researched it any more than that, so I just throw external drives at the problem. Just like my solution to running out of space on my Linux desktop box is to just throw another SATA drive at it, rather than doing something sensible like delete unused and obsolete files. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 08:02:17AM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W wrote: Find me a person who actually wants to put petrol in a pram and you'll convince me it's not a false analogy. I have a sudden urge to build a pram powered with a Keith Black 440. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:49:52AM +0800, David Savage wrote: And I'll add... Quit circle jerking each other about who has the right workflow. Go outside and takes some photos for f#$ks sake. This thread is an amazingly frustrating mixture of vitally useful information and flamebait wankage. There's enough useful stuff interspersed that I can't just skip the thread. Unfortunately with LR, I can't just RTFM because it doesn't ship with one. If what you do works for you, it's the right workflow. I'm turning in for the night, this whole thread is better than a sleeping pill. Tomorrow I plan to shoot drift racing. Doing doughnuts in the parking lot elevated to olympian competition. It's a tremendously entertaining misapplication of automotive technology. I bet Doug's baby grand would be great for dorifto. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: RAW software
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:49:05PM +0100, Cotty wrote: On 3/4/09, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: Hmm, I say they're not a panacea then you correct me and say they're not a panacea. And I'm the one not speaking English? I like panaceas with maple syrup. Cotty, you are the pepperoni pizza of non-sequitors. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:39:55PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Larry: I like this shot very much. I'd like to see just a tad more fingers of the guy in the foreground, but still it's a very nice pic. http://www.flickr.com:80/photos/ellarsee/3409027558/in/set-72157616200776255/ Thanks a bunch. I agree with you, given time I would have framed it differently, but I was shooting a 50mm prime and he just turned around in my direction. Even though I was set up for shooting Irv (sax) with Rob (trumpet) I snapped this as soon as the buffer in my K100 emptied enough for me to do so. Sometimes what you get is what you get. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:31 AM Subject: Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance Nice shots Larry. I agree with you, that second sax shot is very good. Dave On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: When I left work yesterday, I stopped to shoot a field that has been catching my eye for a couple of years: I think that this may be the best of the lot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408989436 Also, Nick was concerned about the low light performance of the K100. This set was shot at between ISO 200 and 400. It wasn't horribly dark, but it was by no means ideal lighting for action shots. The biggest problem was that the two spots on the band both had yellow gels, making color balance a bit of a challenge. Most of these were shot with the FA 50/1.4, some may have been shot with the FA77. I certainly missed the high iso performance, the larger buffer, and the second dial for iso of the K20. As an aside, if I had waited a couple more weeks, Amazon now has the K20 for $670. I think that the two best shots were both of Irv on the sax: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3409027558/in/set-72157616200776255/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408211857/in/set-72157616200776255/ The whole set is at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616200776255/ -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
triangles
I was shooting a spool of barbed wire last night http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616246076913/ and I saw this triangle on the stop of it. Having just seen Paul's series, I was inspired to take this shot and play the game too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3410827921/sizes/l/ Inspiration from a friend, or ripping off an idea, either way, I thought it was a fun shot. I think that my favorite shot from the set is this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3411649858/sizes/l/in/set-72157616246076913/ I've been noticing that spool of barbed wire out in the field, it's funny but I could probably spend hours doing detail shots of it. I don't normally shoot wide angle, but I was wishing for something wider than my 18-250. If anyone else wants to have a go at it, it's on Hellyer between 101 and embedded way, across from a business complex you can park in. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO and GESO, K100Ds performance
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:07:21PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen When I left work yesterday, I stopped to shoot a field that has been catching my eye for a couple of years: I think that this may be the best of the lot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3408989436 I think I can see where you're going with this; the barbs tack sharp, and the background out of focus, but it doesn't work for me. The OOF farm implement detracts from the scene. Better if the background were only *slightly* out of focus. That makes sense. I've got some with the farm gear in focus and the fence out. The good news is that it's around the block from the office so I can easily go back with a tripod and shoot at f32 rather than f11. Thanks for the advice. I love compliments, but suggestions are better at helping me improve. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: triangles
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:08:10PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: I love working scenes like this. Your favorite is also mine. Where were they taken? Enjoyed the set very much! On Hellyer in South San Jose. Wednesday's shots can be found by plugging 5290 Hellyer Ave, San Jose, Santa Clara, California 95138 in google maps. I think that these would be at 5276 Hellyer Ave, San Jose, Santa Clara, California 95138 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=5276+Hellyer+Ave,+San+Jose,+Santa+Clara,+California+95138sll=37.272399,-121.793483sspn=0.000814,0.000917ie=UTF8t=hz=17iwloc=addr If people wanted, we could meet for lunch and shooting dead farm gear. Jack --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: triangles To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 12:42 PM I was shooting a spool of barbed wire last night http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616246076913/ and I saw this triangle on the stop of it. Having just seen Paul's series, I was inspired to take this shot and play the game too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3410827921/sizes/l/ Inspiration from a friend, or ripping off an idea, either way, I thought it was a fun shot. I think that my favorite shot from the set is this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3411649858/sizes/l/in/set-72157616246076913/ I've been noticing that spool of barbed wire out in the field, it's funny but I could probably spend hours doing detail shots of it. I don't normally shoot wide angle, but I was wishing for something wider than my 18-250. If anyone else wants to have a go at it, it's on Hellyer between 101 and embedded way, across from a business complex you can park in. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: 'nother stump(s)
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 04:07:27PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
Continuing my stump series..not, does anyone think either of these is worth
pursuing?
I may make another trip to this spot ('prox 45 miles away) depending opon
your answers. It might help if I were to wait 'til later in the day when the
sun would be hitting at least some of the stump's blackened innards.
It's a tough shot. Modulo this is my home linux monitor, but the grass
looks like it might be a bit light, the outside part of the stump
looks quite a bit over exposed and the inside is a bit under.
So you've got sun on something white and something coal black in the
shade. That could be tough.
Have you tried just going with it and letting the inside of the stump
go all black? What about using a strobe or a fill reflector? A
reflective windshield shade or two might be just about right.
Or, you could try lighting some magnesium and dropping that down into
the hole in the middle of the stump. :)
Alternatively, you could try the Savage approach and come back at
night with strobes, and light it however you like.
If you're having fun shooting it, who cares if any of the shots turn
out?
Was a beautiful day to do anything outdoors.
Thanks,
Jack
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Re: PESO: 'nother stump(s)
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 05:41:06PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
Exactly right. Fun is the point.
Sun was at the worst possible angle. May try it again and let the sun light
up what it will. It would, also, not be hitting the bark-less right side of
the stump, thus eliminating the glare.
I actually like the stump image better from further to the left, but the
background from that angle is awful.
All the more reason to go back and shoot at night. Darkness will cure
a wealth of ugly background problems.
Thanks for comments, Larry.
Jack
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From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
Subject: Re: PESO: 'nother stump(s)
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 5:30 PM
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 04:07:27PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
Continuing my stump series..not, does anyone think
either of these is worth pursuing?
I may make another trip to this spot ('prox 45
miles away) depending opon your answers. It might help if I
were to wait 'til later in the day when the sun would be
hitting at least some of the stump's blackened innards.
It's a tough shot. Modulo this is my home linux
monitor, but the grass
looks like it might be a bit light, the outside part of the
stump
looks quite a bit over exposed and the inside is a bit
under.
So you've got sun on something white and something coal
black in the
shade. That could be tough.
Have you tried just going with it and letting the inside of
the stump
go all black? What about using a strobe or a fill
reflector? A
reflective windshield shade or two might be just about
right.
Or, you could try lighting some magnesium and dropping that
down into
the hole in the middle of the stump. :)
Alternatively, you could try the Savage approach and come
back at
night with strobes, and light it however you like.
If you're having fun shooting it, who cares if any of
the shots turn
out?
Was a beautiful day to do anything outdoors.
Thanks,
Jack
k20, DA*50~135
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I need a flashtube
It turns out that the reason one of the studio strobes I bought off a friend a while back doesn't work is that the flashtube is dead. I swapped flash tubes and the problem followed the tube. The strobe is a Paul C Buff white lighting 10,000 and it seems to have a WFT36R tube: http://www.white-lightning.com/tubes.html Other than the Paul C Buff website, are these tubes easy to get? Is it something that I should be able to get at a regular photo store? Preferably in San Jose or Santa Cruz. Or am I better off just paying $20 on line for one? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - By the power of Greyskull....
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 11:23:19AM +0800, David Savage wrote: G'day all, Here is another from last weekend: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3400865997/ Very fun. Looking at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3398530748/in/set-72157615995917477/ It's a lot bigger than the tesla coils we made in high school. You can also have fun with them lighting up flourescent and neon bulbs that aren't attached to anything which may be useful for your creative lighting style. Direct link (~120kb): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3400865997_f065a98701_o.jpg There was no Photoshop trickery involved. If you click on the first link there is an explanation of how the shot was made. A small gallery of my other shots from the night can be found here: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/Tesla%20Downunder/ Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How is the M 120/2.8?
I found on on craigslist. I assume that it's pretty redundant with my 135/2.5, but on the off chance that it's some rare legendary performer, I figured it was worth asking about. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Trading resolution for depth of field
Perhaps someone has already done the math, or the experimentation, and can just give me the answers. Scott's pictures of his Nishiki inspired me to shoot some of my mongrel legnano. I rode it to lunch today, and on the way back to the office was getting some shots of it with some lupin by the side of the trail. I didn't have quite as much depth of field as I'd like, so I decided to try zooming way out and then just cropping. Smaller sensor, shorter lens, more depth of field. If the equation is linear, I should get the same DOF by downresing (downrezzing?) a longer lens over the whole sensor, as I would using a shorter lens and cropping. This would also mean that a K20 would have a lot less DOF than my K100 at the same focal length, assuming that they were blown up large enough that the sensor resolution became a factor. So, if I'm willing to trade resolution for depth of field, am I better off using a wider angle lens and cropping (my intuition says yes), or do I get the same benefit by just combining pixels (which would also reduce noise) for a larger circle of confusion? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: And the mouse said to the elephant...
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:30:20PM +0200, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/16612744 Fun shot. It also works as a photograph on artistic merits. Enjoy, Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany NEW! Blog: http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com NEW! Homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - 'A shadow of its former self'
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 02:15:03PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote: Check put http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Taken with a K20D, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA lens, 1/4000 sec, f 8.0, 1600 ISO Comments apporeciated. I like it, nice color and lighting. It's also a peaceful composition. I find the blur of the branch over the shadow of the leave a little distracting. It might have been better if the camera were just a touch higher, but I don't know how that would have affected other compositional elements. I'm also on this kick of leaving the middle of my photos empty so I'd crop it so that the leaf was even more in the upper right, cropping just above the upper lit branchtip intersecting the branch shadow, , and just to the right of the spur on the shadow to the right of the leaf, so the leafe, branches and shadow make a frame around an empty middle. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:32:37PM +0100, Bob W wrote: So, if I'm willing to trade resolution for depth of field, am I better off using a wider angle lens and cropping (my intuition says yes), or do I get the same benefit by just combining pixels (which would also reduce noise) for a larger circle of confusion? To calculate the nearest (dn) and furthest (df) points in focus use the following formulae: dn = U * F^2 / [F^2 + (U * c * f)] df = U * F^2 / [F^2 - (U * c * f)] Ah. Thanks. Focal length is second order factor, circle of confusion is first order, so focal length has a greater effect on DOF, than CoC (pixel size). where c = circle of confusion U = subject distance F = focal length f = f-number To calculate the circle of confusion c = (v * D) / (1000 * S) where v = film format / image size D = viewing distance S = print size Source: The Professional Guide to Photo Data, 3rd edition, by Richard Platt. Very easy with a spreadsheet. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Phishing spam
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:42:33PM +0100, Bob W wrote: I received some phishing spam on this email address today. I only use it for PDML and for replies to offlist emails from PDMLers. In the PDML archives the email addresses are hidden. Ergo, a PDMLer who has contacted me offlist, or one of their other correspondents, has had their address book raided by spyware. There's another possibility. I've had accounts nailed by spam that I *NEVER* gave out the address to, because they were a three letter acronym. Spammers will hit all combinations of three letters at a domain, and it seems that some hit four letters (pdml) as well. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 043, 044 - GDG
Some color ... Who are you and what did you do with Godfrey? http://homepage.mac.com/godders/043-connections.jpg Connections - Sunnyvale 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 200 @ f/2 @ 1/320 sec http://homepage.mac.com/godders/044-raw.jpg Raw - San Francisco 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 100 @ f/2 @ 1/800 sec I like this one. The yellow has a nice kick. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:51:37PM +0100, Bob W wrote: Ah. Thanks. Focal length is second order factor, circle of confusion is first order, so focal length has a greater effect on DOF, than CoC (pixel size). Circle of confusion is not pixel size. I misunderstood it then. I always thought that the circle of confusion represented the smallest area that could be resolved. That anything between a mathematical point and the CoC resolves to the same size, and that the physical manifestation of this on a digital sensor was a pixel. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Shooting close to home (was 'nother stump)
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Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:28:28PM +0800, David Savage wrote: 2009/4/7 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: But you can bang my head with all the numbers and theories you want, until I go do it over and over, I'm not going to get it. Â Some people like the theory behind things, and that's fine, too. Â But we can't forget what the underlying theory is about: Â going out and taking photos! Amen! All also add that there thousands upon thousand of technically competent, but mind numbingly boring, photos on the inter web. I know, I have added quite a few to the technically competent, but mediocre, pool myself. I've done quite a few of those, but they aren't nearly as frustrating as the brilliant photos that were ruined because of a technical error, of which I have quite a few. For sufficiently small values of brilliant that is. Also nice shot of the glowing bunghole. did you do that by timing the flash? Or by aiming a mirror? If you did it with a mirror, you might be able to achieve a similar effect by just taping a mirror to the jeans so her hand didn't need to be there. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:25:04AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: Here's my latest boring photo: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3319/3420399349_fc22fbab94_o.jpg :-) Wow! Nice photo Dave. Good composition, color. I like the way you've balanced the small orange rock in the upper left hand edge with the right foot of the idiot with the uncontrolled highlight up his ass. That looks like *her* ass to me. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 02:41:08PM -0400, JC OConnell wrote: The COC thing is simply how you MEASURE perceived depth of field, no matter what COC or print size you choose, it I see. So if I don't care whether something is out of focus as long as it looks like it is in focus, then I can use the aforementioned math? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field - Wait!
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 01:07:35PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: I think I've got it! The Depth of Field is anything in an image that is not Bokeh! Now *this* is a Speckable quote. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: triangles
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 04:04:27PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: snip and I saw this triangle on the stop of it. Having just seen Paul's series, I was inspired to take this shot and play the game too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3410827921/sizes/l/ I generally like it, but I find the bokeh a bit harsh. Maybe it was the light, but it's not as smooth as one might expect or hope. What lens? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3410827921/meta/ Lens: TAMRON AF 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 Di II LD Aspherical [IF] MACRO Camera: Pentax K100D Super Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80) Aperture: f/9.0 Focal Length: 65 mm Exposure: 0.00 ISO Speed: 200 Exposure Bias: 0 EV Maybe I'll have to head back and shoot it again with one of the primes. Inspiration from a friend, or ripping off an idea, either way, I thought it was a fun shot. snip I think it's a fun shot, too! thanks. I find that this list gives me all sorts of ideas for things to shoot, or how to shoot them. Playing off Scott's Nishiki shots, I tried getting some of my legnano yesterday, http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3420760782/in/set-72157616364177263/ They'll need a bit more work. One of these days I may even bring the bike home to wash it for a shoot. In the mean time, when the weather's nice, I ride it to lunch, and always bring my camera along. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 01:11:02PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It is very simple. Want more? use big opening. Want less? use little opening. Done. KISS rocks. ]'-) Yeah, but you seem to be KISSing the wrong end. A smaller opening gives more depth of field, that's why a pinhole camera gives a sharper image than putting a sheet behind your front door. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 02:56:15PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 7, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Cotty wrote: Well slap my ass and call me Sally. Mark! Not Mark, Sally. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
By magnification do you mean the size of the image as projected on the sensor or film? On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:26:17PM -0400, JC OConnell wrote: The problem with this post below is the word perceived. For my purposes, if the viewer can't tell that something is out of focus, I don't care whether it is in focus or not. Granted, it's generally better if I can achieve this effect with a bigger image, but life is all about compromises. The REAL DOF increases with lower magnification, not the perceived DOF. If you could build a high quality tiny sensor and had a real short FL lens of unlimited resolution, you would end up with a camera with immense DOF capability, So, if I want to increase DOF at the same aperture, I could use a smaller sensor? And if I don't have a smaller sensor, then I could use a wider lens and crop down to the smaller portion of the sensor, in effect giving me a smaller sensor and less magnification? (Albeit at the cost of image resolution) Just like I asked in my first post? EVEN WITH LARGE PRINTS MADE. The viewing angles and print sizes dont matter. Its the in-camera maginification that makes the difference, a REAL difference. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Trading resolution for depth of field Hard as it is to remain serious in this thread, I'll try. :-) Magnification is one of the keys, and very important. For a while, let's keep the aperture and circle of confusion effects out of the equation (make them constant to all the scenarios below). So for this moment, magnification is our tool. Zooming out or stepping back would reduce image size, increasing the perceived DOF. But that's part of the problem, since we have now a pic a little smaller than we wanted. So we enlarge said photo back to the desired size, and we MAY keep the perceived DOF, as long as we don't degrade the image in the process. Best if we have some megapix stored just in case. Taking this to a limit, the circle of confusion that was acceptable in the small image becomes unacceptable in the enlargement. But there is still another point to consider - viewing distance of the final, enlarged photo. Looking too close is another way of enlarging the photo, and there go the perceived DOF and sharpness away. Keep the distance and the image keeps looking sharp - small, but sharp. Small sensor PS cameras use so small images they offer some serious DOF - offset by other considerations very quickly. As you move up in sensor size (assuming of course you use a corresponding larger image) the perceived DOF will drop. Want it back? Small image, to be enlarged later if the number of pixels remains on our side. Now, about that light at the end... ;-) LF Larry Colen escreveu: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:32:47AM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: You're actually saying if one zoom out (reduce the magnification of the subject) and crop back to the desired composition the DOF will be increased, right? So the pic taken with the zoom at 35mm will present greater DOF than the one taken at 70mm, after you enlarge both to the same subject size, right? This is the premise behind point and shoots having greater depth of field than APS which has greater depth of field than Full Format. Or conversely if you want to limit DOF at a particular angle of view, you may need to go to FF. ...so the K20d has greater DOF than the *ist DS, right? Because you can shoot with a shorter lens and crop, since DOF is based on focal length squared and CoC as a linear value. Mind you, if you down res a photo from 2000x3000 pixels to 400x600 then an edge that had been 5 pixels wide is now only 1 pixel wide so even if DoF can't be changed in post processing, there will be a lot more lattitude in what you cannot see is out of focus. I love numbers... :-) LF JC OConnell escreveu: depth of field is determined solely by in camera magnification and working fstop. So cropping/format is not a factor but changing lenses from a given distance will affect DOF, likewise moving further away with the same lens and stopping down more will also both increase DOF. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Trading resolution for depth of field Perhaps someone has already done the math, or the experimentation, and can just give me the answers. Scott's pictures of his Nishiki inspired me to shoot some of my mongrel legnano. I rode it to lunch today, and on the way back to the office was getting some shots
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:03PM +0100, Cotty wrote: On 7/4/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't really have anything to say, I just wanted to be the 100th poster on this thread. Well slap my ass and call me Sally. I want this on a T shirt if it skills me. Be careful of what you ask for: https://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=truenumber=%20374912763 -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: License
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 07:07:49PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Here's one I took this afternoon. I'm really really liking the colors that K100D Super makes. http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/license.html Nice. I notice that you upload rather small jpegs to flickr, is that to conserve your limited upload bandwidth? -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: so that I don't have to reinvent the wheel
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:39:53PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote: Instead of reinventing the wheel make a paper negative and contact print it Print on acetate instead of paper. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: License
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:28:27PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: I use Flickr as a online backup, so I upload full-size images. But I have it set not to allow folks to download the files so all that's visible is the small image that flickr creates. I guess that makes sense if you are more concerned with people not taking your work for free than you are that people see it at it's best. One of the dilemmas of the digital age. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Shooting close to home (was 'nother stump)
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 03:19:33PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: snip Definitely let us know if you do. I popped over to Davenport yesterday for a little shooting just before sunset: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616322123961/ snip This one's a hell of a shot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3416664805/in/set-72157616322123961/ Thanks. I worried that it was too cliche', but if it is, I guess there's a reason for it. The birds flying in front right when I took the first shot of the boat was amazing luck. I don't remember if this was that, or when I saw another flock going past. But just a small nit, is the horizon just a titch off horizontal? About .5 degree? Not that it takes away... I'll check on that. It very likely is, the original was about 5 degrees off. I can't seem to hold a camera level to save my soul. lrc -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trading resolution for depth of field
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:32:47AM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote: You're actually saying if one zoom out (reduce the magnification of the subject) and crop back to the desired composition the DOF will be increased, right? So the pic taken with the zoom at 35mm will present greater DOF than the one taken at 70mm, after you enlarge both to the same subject size, right? This is the premise behind point and shoots having greater depth of field than APS which has greater depth of field than Full Format. Or conversely if you want to limit DOF at a particular angle of view, you may need to go to FF. ...so the K20d has greater DOF than the *ist DS, right? Because you can shoot with a shorter lens and crop, since DOF is based on focal length squared and CoC as a linear value. Mind you, if you down res a photo from 2000x3000 pixels to 400x600 then an edge that had been 5 pixels wide is now only 1 pixel wide so even if DoF can't be changed in post processing, there will be a lot more lattitude in what you cannot see is out of focus. I love numbers... :-) LF JC OConnell escreveu: depth of field is determined solely by in camera magnification and working fstop. So cropping/format is not a factor but changing lenses from a given distance will affect DOF, likewise moving further away with the same lens and stopping down more will also both increase DOF. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 4:35 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Trading resolution for depth of field Perhaps someone has already done the math, or the experimentation, and can just give me the answers. Scott's pictures of his Nishiki inspired me to shoot some of my mongrel legnano. I rode it to lunch today, and on the way back to the office was getting some shots of it with some lupin by the side of the trail. I didn't have quite as much depth of field as I'd like, so I decided to try zooming way out and then just cropping. Smaller sensor, shorter lens, more depth of field. If the equation is linear, I should get the same DOF by downresing (downrezzing?) a longer lens over the whole sensor, as I would using a shorter lens and cropping. This would also mean that a K20 would have a lot less DOF than my K100 at the same focal length, assuming that they were blown up large enough that the sensor resolution became a factor. So, if I'm willing to trade resolution for depth of field, am I better off using a wider angle lens and cropping (my intuition says yes), or do I get the same benefit by just combining pixels (which would also reduce noise) for a larger circle of confusion? -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rocking chair and dulcimer
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:45:23PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/rocking-chair-and-dulcimer.html I think that's one of the best I've seen from you so far. Good job. I love the light, color and composition. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 049,050 - GDG
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:45:18PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Last night while at a restaurant ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/049-stacks.jpg Stacks - San Jose 2009 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/050-tabasco.jpg Tabasco - San Jose 2009 Both with the Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40/1.4, wide open at ISO 100. They're a little soft ... I didn't focus particularly accurately, shutter speeds were certainly high enough ... and I nearly tossed them as a result. However, after looking at them again this morning, I find I like them. What say you? I really like them. I wish that they were sharper, but then I guess I'm bourgeois that way. Maybe it'll be an excuse to go out to dinner. Comments are always appreciated. Godfrey -- www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2009 - 051 - GDG
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:47:24PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Another one from last evening, in a different aesthetic... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/051-tapped.jpg Tapped - San Jose 2009 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4 ISO 800 @ f/1.4 @ 1/30 sec Comments are always appreciated. I can appreciate it intellectually, but it doesn't really work for me. Godfrey -- www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Morning Hellos
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:54:13PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: more construction whimsy. http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/morning/content/caisson_april_8_18_large.html It's definitely worth a chuckle, I like it. Just as a nit, I'd crop it in tighter, just above the highest bit of building, and just behind the guy. comments welcome, cheers, christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: May have an opportunity for event photography. Price question
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:47:08PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: I know i'll need more info like, are they looking for 5-10 pictures to use for advertising, web site etc. I have lots of cameras, lenses, flashes etc so i think i have enough gear to do the job. Any way, just looking for some suggestions. I'd start with: How long would one of these shoots take? What is your time worth? That's the least you should charge. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
About 450 reasons to appreciate Pentax
One of my coworkers has a D700. He and I spend a lot of time talking about photography. This morning he mentioned that he'd made a wishlist of lenses he wants. Pretty close to the top of the list is a Nikon 105mm f/2.8 macro. I was frustrated at the DFA 100/2.8 macro running about $500 bucks, but the Nikon seems to go for about $950. I often envy the low light sensitivity of his camera, but I certainly don't envy what he has to pay for glass. Granted, this lens has VR and an internal motor, both of which would drive up the cost. I'm sure Dave could also enlighten us on other benefits of Nikkor glass. This is by no means a slam Nikon post, if I had the money, I'd have a D700 in my kit too. Until I *need* the extra performance, I'll certainly enjoy the performance per dollar of Pentax gear. In other news, it looks like my camera and lens ship from Pentax today. The UPS tracking page says that they have the paperwork. A friend wants to do a portrait shoot on Saturday, and unfortunately it probably won't be back until next week. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rocking chair and dulcimer
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:13:00PM -0500, Nick Wright wrote: Jack, I am always open to suggestions. Here are my other selects from this shoot, see if you like any of the others better: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalingprose/sets/72157616424037813/ Let me know what you think. I think I like #2 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalingprose/3423916363/in/set-72157616424037813/ (though I'd crop it a little closer to the top and bottom of the chair) and #4 the best http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalingprose/3424741290/in/set-72157616424037813/ #4, as far as I can tell is the one you picked. On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Nick. I like the idea of it, but I have a suggestion if you will allow? I believe I'd like it even better if I could see all of the chair back and throw. Also, the bottom front corner of the chair seat being nipped off sort of bothers me. I know, I'm entirely too sensitive. Jack --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Nick Wright nickwright1...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Rocking chair and dulcimer To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:45 AM http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/rocking-chair-and-dulcimer.html -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ~Nick David Wright http://www.nickdavidwright.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Back To Tarke Homestead
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 03:16:09PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=404 I like it better in color. Can you do anything to bring out detail in the sky? http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=406 Better light. k20, DA16~45 comments welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Rocking chair and dulcimer
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 06:22:31PM -0400, Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:45:23PM -0500, Nick Wright scripsit: http://www.nickdavidwright.com/2009/04/rocking-chair-and-dulcimer.html Nothing can save chair, dulcimer, or knitted blanket from the faux-wood panelling with the rotary-cut grain pattern, which is a pity, because I like the main elements just fine. It is a commentary on the timelessness of quality handcrafted work in this modern world where we are surrounded by the cheap mass produced knockoffs which always lurk in the background. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Commuting
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 03:42:16PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: Interesting set, Bob... Date stamp sucks. This brought out some visual and aural memories! http://www.web-options.com/Commute/content/IMAGE_00067_large.html http://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/P/pfloyd_animals.html I thought it looked a lot like the cover to animals, that explains it. There were some fine photos in that series, proof that while you may need decent gear to get clear shots, you don't need good gear to get beautiful photos. I'd love to see what you could get if you started carrying a decent camera on your commute. On Apr 8, 2009, at 13:54 , Bob W wrote: Here's a small gallery of photos taken with my phonecam while commuting: http://www.web-options.com/Commute/ Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. If it doesn?t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? ?Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Commuting
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 03:56:16PM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: Forgot my tag line... Where's the pig? Freedom California, at 107 oink 5 on the FM dial: http://kpig.com They're definitely worth checking out. They were the first radio station to broadcast over the net. I've heard them play The Rolling Stones and Hank Williams Sr. in the same set, and make it work. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Back To Tarke Homestead
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 03:58:26PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks, Larry for commenting. Don't really know what I could do to bring out the sky. You might use the magic wand tool and mess with sections of it. I didn't like the bit of blue that was showing through, so desaturated it. Like the grayer look personally. Feel free to download it if you'd like and have at it. My friend Candice explained how to do it in comments here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3315340603/ I had asked for her help bringing out the sky in this photo. This was the original http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3313747724/in/set-72157614416872469/ Jack --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO: Back To Tarke Homestead To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 3:19 PM On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 03:16:09PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=404 I like it better in color. Can you do anything to bring out detail in the sky? http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=406 Better light. k20, DA16~45 comments welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Back To Tarke Homestead
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 04:17:47PM -0700, Jack Davis wrote: Yeah, I could go back to the orig shot and heavily saturate what little blue there is, but I don't feel it suits this sort of picture, IMHO. I wasn't talking about heavily saturating the blue, just changing the curves on the sky to bring out the grey and white in the clouds a bit better. The sky in that picture is a lot more interesting than it looks. Candice really likes the big heavily saturated colors so she kicked the colors on my shot up a bit more than I might have, but her technique should work at a more subtle level too. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding photographer's web site
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:30:08AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: Ahh, very nostalgic. Reminds me of what web sites used to look like in 1985. 1985 would be an improvement, there weren't any websites back then. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: About 450 reasons to appreciate Pentax
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 08:36:05PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Joseph McAllister Subject: Re: About 450 reasons to appreciate Pentax We get pissy no matter what you say, WR! I can feel the love all the way from here. WR That's not love, Joseph's just in a frisky mood tonight. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wedding photographer's web site
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 02:46:02PM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:37 -0700, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:30:08AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: Ahh, very nostalgic. Reminds me of what web sites used to look like in 1985. 1985 would be an improvement, there weren't any websites back then. Slip of the keystroke. I meant 1995. I suspected so, that's how I first read it. However my assertion that 1985 would be an improvement on this website still stands. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: An ice-cream story li...@gaetanbeauchamp.ca.
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:47:29PM -0400, Ga?tan Beauchamp wrote: http://gaetanbeauchamp.ca/photog Lovely work. My only complaint is that the shots of the little girl eating icecream weren't together and in sequence. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Non-OT PESO - Jesus is the Answer
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 12:21:23AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote: To my street-crossing needs. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/3425882940/ larger/direct link: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3659/3425882940_542f64d5bc_o.jpg This is the season for Jesus crossing. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D firmware update
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 07:55:25AM +0200, Dario Bonazza wrote: The following content have been improved in Version 1.03 Improved the accuracy of SR (Shake Reduction) function. http://www.pentax.jp/english/support/digital/k20d_s.html Interesting. They shipped my camera back to me today. I expect that it will have been updated. I guess I'll find out Monday. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Passover
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:46:49AM -0400, frank theriault wrote: Last evening at sundown was the start of Passover. I believe one of the popular Passover greetings is Next year in Jerusalem!, but I'm not sure that Boris has that many guest rooms for all of us. On this forum I believe that's been changed to Next year at GFM. Why on all other nights do we shoot digital or film, but tonight we shoot only film? Why on all other nights do we shoot all kinds of subjects, but tonight we shoot only landscapes? Why on all other nights do we shoot hand held or with a tripod, but tonight we shoot only on a tripod? Why on all other nights do we not bracket our exposures even once, but tonight we bracket them by two stops? ;-) All the best to all who celebrate this wonderful holiday. Pesach Tov Y'all I almost feel guilty that my seder last night was a cheeseburger at In-n-Out, but I'd have to be three steps more orthodox to make it to Unitarian. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO #013 - Under the olive trees
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 07:53:46PM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Please be brutal and honest, as I've already processed this image in 3 different ways, and I am not sure I am finished with it yet. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/04/peso-2009-013.html I'm looking at it on my crappy monitor at work, but I like it. I like the luminosit of the grass contrasting with the (on my monitor) dark and forboding trees. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down the Canal
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 02:09:10PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote: Along the canal today. I liked having the three modes of transport in the frame at once. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8941099size=lg Nice composition and wonderful range of colors. (K10D and DA 50-200) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO A little tractor and a little lens
These pictures were shot on the West side of Hellyer for a change. There's a little red International tractor parked in a field next to a company parking lot. I stopped by for a quick shoot when I left work yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616541528855/ As usual the DA40 was on my camera, and pretty much all of my other lenses were in my camera bag. There were arguments in favor of grabbing the bag so that I'd have all of my lenses with me, but for some reason, I just wanted to shoot with the DA40. I can't explain why I enjoy shooting with that one lens so much. The DFA50 macro would have been handy on some of the shots, but I don't like the bokeh quite as much, and maybe the 18-250 isn't quite as razor sharp, but that's about all of the bad things I have to say about the lenses I might have used. There's something, and I can't define it, that just makes shooting with that lens fun. I do think that I'll need to go back soon with the macro for some of the detail shots. I also need to get better at winnowing out shots. There are things in Lightroom for help with that, I just need to get off my duff and learn those features. CC, especially suggestions for improvement, welcome. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Last Day
Nice photo, very often the imperfect seems to make for much more interesting photos. I suspect that if I were at your house you'd take pictures of me and your wife would throw me away. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Accordion as a Social Tool
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 08:21:54AM -0700, Joseph McAllister wrote: Need a bagpipe equivalent now. A while back we decided the ultimate band would be bagpipe, accordian, banjo and drums. A local music store sells bumper stickers that say Use an accordian, go to jail. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
lightroom 2 question
I recently upgraded to LR2. LR used to show the ratings of the pictures. Now, all I can do is filter on the rating, but of all the shots over 3 stars I can't see which are 3 and which are 4 without fiddling with the filters. How do you get it to show the rating for each of the pictures? -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
