from:"Zonophone2006"


 hello all
just a shout out 
i am having my by replated and the plater destroyed the by beauty ring
the one i need is the larger one for the 12 3/8 turntable
i know there is a smaller one for the 11 5/ 8 but i need the larger
please contact me off list if you have one available
thanks
zono


 
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Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable

HI
He cant pay for it if i cant find one
oh well
no idea what its worth at this point but not a happy camper
zono

 

 

 

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From: John Robles john9...@pacbell.net
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Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable


I hope he paid for it!
John

On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:20 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote:

 
 hello all
 just a shout out 
 i am having my by replated and the plater destroyed the by beauty ring
 the one i need is the larger one for the 12 3/8 turntable
 i know there is a smaller one for the 11 5/ 8 but i need the larger
 please contact me off list if you have one available
 thanks
 zono
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable

i agree 
last time one appeared it was in the possesion of jeff oliphant and it sold 
quickly many years ago


 

 

 

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From: gregory caringi drgr...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable


I also need the same trim ring for my otherwise original and complete Columbia 
BD.  I've started threads on this topic several times over the years with no 
results.  The larger trim ring is very hard to find.  I've even looked into 
having reproductions made but the start-up costs are too high because the 
demand 
is apparently relatively low.  I would be interested in any and all options as 
well.
 
DrGregC
 

 
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 From: zonophone2...@aol.com
 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:20:44 -0400
 Subject: [Phono-L] needing a b y  nickel beauty ring  for 12 3/8 turntable
 
 
  hello all
 just a shout out 
 i am having my by replated and the plater destroyed the by beauty ring
 the one i need is the larger one for the 12 3/8 turntable
 i know there is a smaller one for the 11 5/ 8 but i need the larger
 please contact me off list if you have one available
 thanks
 zono
 
 
  
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Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable

He was polishing it with a wheel
idiot he was

 

 

 

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From: John Robles john9...@pacbell.net
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Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable


If I may ask, how did he destroy it?
John

On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:37 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote:

 HI
 He cant pay for it if i cant find one
 oh well
 no idea what its worth at this point but not a happy camper
 zono
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: John Robles john9...@pacbell.net
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:13 pm
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable
 
 
 I hope he paid for it!
 John
 
 On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:20 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 hello all
 just a shout out 
 i am having my by replated and the plater destroyed the by beauty ring
 the one i need is the larger one for the 12 3/8 turntable
 i know there is a smaller one for the 11 5/ 8 but i need the larger
 please contact me off list if you have one available
 thanks
 zono
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8 turntable

2013-09-04 Thread Zonophone2006

the clock bezel was metioned to me by dwayne at musical americana
m
 
 
In a message dated 9/4/2013 5:41:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
smst...@gmail.com writes:

Fake it  with a clock bezel. I have found the longer I'm in this hobby the
less I'm  incline to do much to these old machines. Maybe a drop of oil and
clean out  the wasp nest. Perhaps I'm lazy. I can see if its a resale some
plating may  be in order. Sorry this happened to you  Zono.
Mike
Oldcranky.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Rich  rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote:

 Or make one from  scratch.


 On 09/04/2013 03:12 PM, Ron L'Herault  wrote:

 You might be able to get a musical instrument  repair man to straighten 
it
 out for you.

  Ron L

 -Original Message-
 From:  phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org  
[mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.orgphono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
  On
 Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com
 Sent: Wednesday,  September 04, 2013 3:27 PM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12 3/8
  turntable

 He was polishing it with a wheel
  idiot he  was







  -Original Message-
 From: John Robles  john9...@pacbell.net
 To: Antique Phonograph List  phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:25  pm
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for 12  3/8
 turntable


 If I may ask,  how did he destroy it?
 John

 On Sep 4,  2013, at 10:37 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote:

   HI
 He cant pay for it if i cant find one
 oh  well
 no idea what its worth at this point but not a happy  camper  zono







  -Original Message-
 From: John Robles  john9...@pacbell.net
 To: Antique Phonograph List  phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:13  pm
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] needing a b y nickel beauty ring for  12 3/8
  turntable


 I hope he paid for  it!
 John

 On Sep 4, 2013, at  8:20 AM, zonophone2...@aol.com  wrote:


 hello  all
 just a shout out
 i am having my by  replated and the plater destroyed the by beauty
 ring the  one i need is the larger one for the 12 3/8 turntable i  know
 there is a smaller one for the 11 5/ 8 but i need the  larger please
 contact me off list if you have one  available thanks  zono



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Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Records

2013-08-30 Thread Zonophone2006

hopefully you got some consolidated records too
you can cruise ebay to find some prices but looks like a good find
 
 
In a message dated 8/29/2013 9:13:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes:

Melissa,Only 9714 came up for me... how many actual Berliner  records did 
you get?

 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:51:21 -0700
  From: riccib...@yahoo.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org;  phonol...@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner Records
  
 Hello Again,
 
 Nick and I also won 54 early 7 inch  Berliner, Victor, Zonophone, and 
Improved etched records at the auction. We  know that some of these can be 
valuable and know a little about them but would  love an expert opinion on the 
collection. Most of the records are Berliner  Gramophone records with the 
etched titles. About half of them are signed by  the artist who sang the song 
or conducted the band. There are some really nice  titles like Yankee 
Doodle and Blue Bells of Scotland. We also have several  etched Zonophone 
records, about 10 Improved records a few Victor without the  dog and one 
Victor 
with the dog. Here are a few pics. We are interested in  anything you can 
tell us.
 
 Thanks again!
  Melissa
 
  
http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09714.jpg.html
  
  
http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09713.jpg.html
  
  
http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09712.jpg.html
  
  
http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09711.jpg.html
  
  
http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09710.jpg.html
  
 
  
http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09709.jpg.html
  
  
http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Records/DSC09708.jpg.html  
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Re: [Phono-L] Pot metal swelling geographically speaking (new topic)

2013-08-20 Thread Zonophone2006

you are so right al
what we collect today were consumable goods and not supposed to last  
forever
zono
 
 
In a message dated 8/20/2013 2:13:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
clockworkh...@aol.com writes:


While the term 'potmetal' was used for many low melting point  alloys the 
modern name for the potmetal we are familiar with is 'die cast  zinc.'  Zinc 
is actually a wonderful metal to cast with a melting point  of  419.53 °C or 
787.15 °F.  This is low enough so that a mold can  easily be made of many 
materials.  Today the purity of zinc is very high,  around 99.999% before it 
is mixed with other metals to make alloys.   Aluminum is common but any 
alloy commonly raises the melting point so pure  zinc is preferred for most 
applications.  Some metals cannot be added to  the zinc in even tiny amounts 
without creating a dimensionally unstable  alloy.

The potmetal problems we see on phonographs is mostly due to  'inter 
granular crystal growth' and is not temperature related.  The old  timers 
called 
this 'dezincification'  which is a misnomer since the zinc  really does not 
go anywhere unless a piece falls off.  If even a tiny  amount of certain 
elements like tin, lead, cadmium, sulfur, or other  contaminate is introduced 
into the liquid casting metal the result with time  will be slow deformation 
of the casting as atomic bonds dissociate along  crystal lines while other 
crystals actually grow.  Thus, some portions of  the solid casting may 
contract while others expand.  A very pure potmetal  will be dimensionally 
stable 
for very long periods of time.

The  contaminated batches may have been inadvertent.  Old pipe organ pipes  
made of zinc could have been used for scrap in the melting pot without the  
people thinking about the lead/tin solder seams.  Just that small amount  
of contamination is enough to ruin a full batch of zinc.  Some batches  were 
very pure and that is why you can find a perfect potmetal reproducer body  
with some regularity.

Another problem is the cooling rate when the  casting was removed.  A rapid 
cooling of a die cast zinc will leave  stress in the metal.  A slow cooling 
allows for the metal to naturally  anneal at lower stress.  Die cast zinc 
today that needs to be accurate to  a high degree is removed from the mold 
and allowed to go through a series of  cooler furnaces before reaching room 
temperature.

There are  environmental elements that can add to a bad batch of zinc.  If 
the  casting was exposed to salt air (a.k.a. sodium chloride) or acidic air 
such as  the sulfur dioxide coal plants produce, then any porosity may 
become a source  of oxidation and the casting will suffer.  Zinc oxide will 
form 
along the  microscopic lines between zinc crystals and they too will cause 
expansion but  much less than a bad batch would cause.

But HEY, these things were not  supposed to last more than a couple of 
centuries anyway! ! !

May all  your finds be rare  ones,
Al

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Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742

2013-08-18 Thread Zonophone2006

now  tim
i just bought my second rollmonica with two cranks and a killer columbia by 
 in a local shop
lol
zono
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2013 10:30:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
phonop...@aol.com writes:

From my  own experience, stopping in antique shops can be more depressing 
than  fruitful. In fact, I've pretty much given up, otherwise I'd have to 
take  mega-doses of anti-depressants. The last time I actually found 
something in  an antique shop was years, possibly decades ago. Of course, there 
are 
always  the incidents such as John related which will fill the rest of us 
with resolve  to stop at every antique shop, waiting for that 742 to appear -- 
but I prefer  to enjoy my mental health and not trudge through aisles of 
discarded  garage-sale glassware. I know that I may sound like a snob -- but 
in fact  I'm too strongly affected by memory of what antique shops used 
to be in the  distant past. What many seem to be now are repositories for 
what DIDN'T sell  on eBay.

Case in point --- My wife and I were visiting friends in  coastal Maine, 
supposedly a good antiquing area. I was bored, so arranged  with a pal to 
make a circuit of the antique shops in the area. Spent all day,  and even 
attended a yearly antique show that was being held in a school gym.  Many, 
many group shops, some individuals, but at least 20 shops were seen.  The 
result --- ZILCH. Here's what I saw---

Gem Roller Organ (doesn't  count, not a phonograph)
Rollmonica (ditto)
VV XI
VV  IX
Run-of-the-mill Brunswick
Diamond Disc C150
Some beat-up Diamond  Discs
Crapophone
Box that once held a Jewel Phonoparts  attachment

So, I suppose the GOOD news is, me not stopping at antique  shops means 
that everybody else gets all the good stuff I will be missing. I  should say, 
in fairness, that my esteemed colleague Mr. Paul swears by  stopping in shops 
and has found untold bounty in them. I guess somebody up  there likes him!

Best to all, Tim  Fabrizio.







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From:  bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List  phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:12 am
Subject:  Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742


I have had that happen as  well, I think many of us have. You kept driving 
by the 
antique shop and  something was trying to entice you in, but you didn't act 
on 
it, and then  you found out something really special was there, but someone 
else 
ended  up with it because you didn't stop when you should have. It is a 
sick  
feeling that does stay with you, especially every time you pass the shop  
again 
and again. 

- Original Message -

From: john  robles john9...@pacbell.net 
To: Antique Phonograph List  phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:38:40 AM  
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 

You know what the  worst thing is about this? He is from Orange County, 
which is 
a couple of  hours away, but he found it in a shop ten miles from my house. 
A 
shop I  have never been to, but meant to go to on Friday! I would have had 
that  
machine if I had only gone in there when I meant to!!! Makes me sick...  
John 




 
From: Tim  Fabrizio phonop...@aol.com 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent:  Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:04 PM 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Picture of the  Herzog 742 


Well, all those Herzogs for cylinder machines used an  internal horn, 
though 
few seem to have retained them. I like Ken's idea  about replicating them! 

Best to all, 

Tim Fabrizio  







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From: john  robles john9...@pacbell.net 
To: phonolist  phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:21 pm 
Subject:  [Phono-L] Picture of the Herzog 742 


Here is a pic, sorry, forgot  the link!  

http://s197.photobucket.com/user/john9ten/library/Herzog%20742  
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Re: [Phono-L] Electric pen

2013-08-17 Thread Zonophone2006

hi all
i was watching a show on the history channel and it was claiming the
electric pen went on to be redesigned by a tattoo artist in 1898 to become
todays tattoo pen,

i wonder what edison thought of this
zono

In a message dated 8/16/2013 11:37:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
a...@popyrus.com writes:

Hi John ~

A friend sent me this link this morning and I watched the video. This may
sound harsh (for me), but I found it to be typically inaccurate media-mill
fodder, with a catchy segment title to attract a big audience. Seems
they're also catering to the contingent that's hungry to pounce on an Edison
failure, perhaps?

In reality, wasn't the electric pen Edison's first successful
mass-produced product; i.e., mass produced by Edison's own shops and marketed
in
America and Europe, keeping his first factory quite occupied during its brief
heyday? While we know that although the apparatus was hard to maintain by
untrained office staff, conceptually the idea was successful enough to attract
lumber man A. B. Dick, who with the much simplified Edison's Mimeograph
put himself on the map as a major office machine and supplies manufacturer.

Certainly it is true that the motorized pen was the ideal basis for the
tattoo stylus (or whatever the right word might be).

A more accurate brief account than the tv.yahoo video:
http://edison.rutgers.edu/pen.htm

NOW FOR ACCURACY IN REPORTING
Edison's worst invention in terms of unsuccessful marketing, must have
been his Electric Vote Recorder, his first issued patent unless I got this
from a flawed history book. None were manufactured beyond the prototype.

Andrew Baron
Santa Fe

On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:48 PM, john robles wrote:

Here is a clip on what was called Thomas Edison's Worst Invention. Of
course it is not well researched, but it is an interesting wawtch!

http://tv.yahoo.com/video/playlist/primetime/thomas-edisons-worst-invention-061926628.html

John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Electric pen

2013-08-17 Thread Zonophone2006

WHOOPS SORRY
it was this segment
i made a comment before seeing the link for mysteries
still interesting
zono
 
 
In a message dated 8/17/2013 5:16:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
zonophone2...@aol.com writes:

hi  all
i was watching a show on the history channel and it was claiming  the  
electric pen went on to be redesigned by a tattoo artist in 1898  to become 
 
todays tattoo pen,

i wonder what edison thought  of this
zono



In a message dated 8/16/2013 11:37:44 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,  
a...@popyrus.com writes:

Hi John   ~

A friend sent me this link this morning and I watched the   video.  This 
may 
sound harsh (for me), but I found it to be  typically  inaccurate 
media-mill 
fodder, with a catchy segment title  to attract a big  audience.  Seems 
they're also catering to the  contingent that's hungry to  pounce on an 
Edison 
failure,  perhaps?

In reality, wasn't the electric  pen Edison's first  successful 
mass-produced product; i.e., mass produced by  Edison's  own shops and 
marketed in 
America and Europe, keeping his first   factory quite occupied during its 
brief 
heyday?  While we know  that  although the apparatus was hard to maintain 
by 
untrained office  staff,  conceptually the idea was successful enough to 
attract 
lumber  man A. B. Dick,  who with the much simplified Edison's Mimeograph 
 
put himself on the map as a  major office machine and supplies  
manufacturer.

Certainly it is true  that the motorized pen was the  ideal basis for the 
tattoo stylus (or whatever  the right word might  be).

A more accurate brief account than the  tv.yahoo  video:
http://edison.rutgers.edu/pen.htm

NOW FOR ACCURACY  IN  REPORTING
Edison's worst invention in terms of unsuccessful  marketing,  must have 
been his Electric Vote Recorder, his first  issued patent unless I  got 
this 
from a flawed history book.   None were manufactured beyond the  prototype.

Andrew  Baron
Santa Fe

On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:48 PM,  john robles  wrote:

 Here is a clip on what was called Thomas  Edison's  Worst Invention. Of 
course it is not well researched, but it is an   interesting wawtch!
 
   
http://tv.yahoo.com/video/playlist/primetime/thomas-edisons-worst-invention-
061926628.html
   
 John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Complete List of Blue Amberols

2013-08-11 Thread Zonophone2006

i second that
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2013 10:23:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pic...@gmail.com writes:

How's  about somebody posting it to a web page so all can enjoy it... ?

Shawn  ORourke wrote:
 If Dennis's doesn't work, i have a complete one in  exel

 Shawn

 On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Terry  Baer wrote:

 Hello.  Does someone have a comple list  of all Edison Blue Amberols
 including record number, title, and  artist in MSWord or Excel or even 
TXT
 format that they could make  available to me off-list?  I do not want a 
PDF
  scan.

 Thanks,

  Terry
 St. Louis
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Re: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money?

2013-04-30 Thread zonophone2006

HI
one was at the jersey show being sold by the oliphants about five years ago for 
105000
zono

 

 

 

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From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money?


Who had the MultiPhone for sale, do you know? The only one that I have seen 
recently was Paul Baker's, which he brought to our March show in Charlotte. It 
was for sale for $150,000. The only other one I know of is in a house about 5-6 
miles from here... and it's not in as good a condition as Paul Baker's. That 
being said, they are incredible machines, but definitely WAY out of my price 
range...

 From: srsel...@aol.com
 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:08:13 -0400
 To: Phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Who has THIS kind of money?
 
  
 I just heard that at Stanton's auction this weekend the Multiphone upright  
 24 cylinder phonograph sold for $77,000.00.
 
 Okay, it probably is neat to have but it sure is a lot of money! (oh yes  
 there was a buyers premium too!). That's a year's take home pay a middle 
 class  white collar worker.
  
  
 Anyone on list go? How was attendance?
  
 
 Steve
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Re: [Phono-L] Wayne Show Pixs posted on WIMAPS Website

2013-04-24 Thread zonophone2006

LOOKS GOOD JOAN

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From: Robin  Joan Rolfs nip...@dataex.com
To: Phono-L phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 10:32 am
Subject: [Phono-L] Wayne Show Pixs posted on WIMAPS Website

Greetings,

Springtime came to the Wayne Show.  The weather was warm and not snowing as it 
still is in Wisconsin.  

Enjoy the photos from the Wayne Show on the WIMAPS website at:

www.wimaps.org 

Click on photos and than click on Wayne Show.

The show was well attended and Mike Devecka does an excellent job in organizing 
the show.  He also seems to enjoy the outdoor swap meet before the show on 
Saturday.  Our thanks for Mike and his wonderful wife for their work in putting 
together the April 14 Mechanical Music Extravaganza.  The next show will be 
October 13.  Mark your calendars and enjoy the collecting hobby.

Happy Collecting to all and think Spring!

Robin  Joan Rolfs
Visit us at:
www.audioantique.com
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Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc 250 Mystery

2013-02-14 Thread zonophone2006

hi bill
i have one on one of my machines
its an electric cut off on the dd
zono

 

 

 

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Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 9:19 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc 250 Mystery


Hello Phonolisters:

Today while I was out looking for records I came across an Edison Diamond
Disc player, model 250 that had several items that I have never seen
before.  Attached to the bottom of the brass portion of the top of the horn
just behind the locking ferrule is a small brass pipe that runs down below
the motorboard and contains an electrical wire that starts with a small
phonetip on the upper end and ends in a bare end below the motorboard.  The
wire is about 18 long.  Also interesting is an electric switch below the
turntable that seems to be part of the stop mechanism.  Other than that,
the machine seems to be an ordinary 250 with a spring motor.  I took two
pictures of the features that I have described above and would be glad to
send them to anyone who asks and who provides me with an email address.

Best Regards,
Green Mountain Bill

-- 
From The Hubbard House
On the park in Rochester, Vermont
where it's always 1929.
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[Phono-L] ron haring

2013-01-29 Thread Zonophone2006

hi
sorry all
ron can you email me privately
i lost your email address
thanks
rob
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Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion

hi all
the vogues are not at a 78 speed by bear so in one sense that is good
zono
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2013 3:32:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes:

These  are from Lima, Peru and I believe they are made by the same guy who 
makes  Victor six cabinets, columns, capitals, etc. - so good you can't tell 
the  difference, especially in 10-20 years, when the finish ages. Judging 
by the  quality of the horn in the pic, it will probably have a negative 
effect on the  price of a good quality original Edison... I know that I 
wouldn't 
pay big  bucks for one, when I can get one that looks just as good for this 
price. This  is part of the same problem that devalued Vogue Picture discs, 
not just eBay,  but when a company like Bear records in Germany reproduces 
Vogues and they  look the same (except for a black edge) it devalues the 
originals. It's all  about supply and demand - if someone provides an adequate 
supply, demand and  price decrease...


 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:58:58  -0600
 From: b...@taney.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion
 
 Anyone  have an opinion on these horns or know the origin?
  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUNNING-REPRODUCTION-MAHOGANY-WOOD-CYGNET-HORN-EDI
  
SON-OPERA-PHONOGRAPH-/28100366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4170375b9
  e
 Bill
 On 1/25/13 9:17 AM, Ron L'Herault  lhera...@bu.edu wrote:
 
 Hi Mike,
  
 It is for a friend, Kirk, so I am forwarding your e-mail to  him.   
Thanks,
 
 Ronald L'Herault
  
 Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division
 B.U. School  of Dental Medicine
 801 Albany Street S203
 Roxbury, MA  02119
 
 
 
 -Original  Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org  [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of  Mike Tucker
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:17 AM
 To:  phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Eclipse  governor
 
 Ron,
 
 What exactly  do you need?
 
 The whole offset governor, the governor  assembly with shaft or the
 governor
 assembly without  shaft?
 
 The governor is a two ball type and uses the  normal Edison governor disc
 and
 small end, but with  two holes instead of 3 or 4. A 3 can be adjusted to
 suit
  and the governor springs are standard Edison springs as per Standards  
etc.
 
 Mike Tucker
 
 On  25/01/2013 2:32 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
  A good friend of  mine needs a governor for an Eclipse.  Did any other
   Edison machines use this same governor?  Anyone got one?
  
  Thanks,
 
  Ron  L'Herault
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn Opinion

don can restore your original one also
i have several of his and no complaints but original is still better
zono
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2013 3:55:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
b...@taney.com writes:

Are  these similar to the Gfell horns? Any opinion on the quality,
authenticity  of one vs the other? I am seriously tempted to buy this horn,
I think it  would look great on my opera. I have a nice opera with an
original horn  that the previous owner a mediocre restoration job and now
it is coming  apart again.
Bill


On 1/25/13 2:18 PM, Vinyl Visions  vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:

These are from Lima, Peru and  I believe they are made by the same guy who
makes Victor six cabinets,  columns, capitals, etc. - so good you can't
tell the difference,  especially in 10-20 years, when the finish ages.
Judging by the quality  of the horn in the pic, it will probably have a
negative effect on the  price of a good quality original Edison... I know
that I wouldn't pay  big bucks for one, when I can get one that looks just
as good for this  price. This is part of the same problem that devalued
Vogue Picture  discs, not just eBay, but when a company like Bear records
in Germany  reproduces Vogues and they look the same (except for a black
edge) it  devalues the originals. It's all about supply and demand - if
someone  provides an adequate supply, demand and price  decrease...


 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:58:58  -0600
 From: b...@taney.com
 To:  phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera Reproduction Horn  Opinion
 
 Anyone have an opinion on these horns or know  the origin?
  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STUNNING-REPRODUCTION-MAHOGANY-WOOD-CYGNET-HORN-E
DI
  
SON-OPERA-PHONOGRAPH-/28100366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4170375
b9
  e
 Bill
 On 1/25/13 9:17 AM, Ron L'Herault  lhera...@bu.edu wrote:
 
 Hi  Mike,
 
 It is for a friend, Kirk, so I am  forwarding your e-mail to him.
Thanks,
 
  Ronald L'Herault
 
 Lab Supervisor,  Biomaterials Division
 B.U. School of Dental  Medicine
 801 Albany Street S203
 Roxbury, MA  02119
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
 From:  phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
  On
 Behalf Of Mike Tucker
 Sent: Friday,  January 25, 2013 1:17 AM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Eclipse governor
  
 Ron,
 
 What exactly do you  need?
 
 The whole offset governor, the governor  assembly with shaft or the
 governor
 assembly  without shaft?
 
 The governor is a two ball  type and uses the normal Edison governor
disc
  and
 small end, but with two holes instead of 3 or 4. A 3  can be adjusted to
 suit
 and the governor  springs are standard Edison springs as per  Standards
etc.
 
 Mike  Tucker
 
 On 25/01/2013 2:32 PM, Ron L'Herault  wrote:
  A good friend of mine needs a governor for an  Eclipse.  Did any other
  Edison machines use this  same governor?  Anyone got one?
 
   Thanks,
 
  Ron L'Herault
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :)

hi all
that was an interesting show
charley hummel was the expert who bought the doll
a wonderful great collector
zono
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2013 6:10:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
riccib...@yahoo.com writes:

Hello  Everybody,
As many of you know, I am a middle school music/band teacher and  I always 
run a unit about Edison and the phonograph. We always end the unit by  
recording on a wax cylinder.
For the first time in many years, I am  teaching two 6th grade general 
music classes along with my band classes this  year. Today was the first time I 
approached the topic of Thomas A. Edison. To  see where the class was with 
their present knowledge of Edison, I broke the  kids into groups and asked 
them to write down everything they knew or thought  they knew about him. 
Here is what the majority of the class wrote  down:
1. Edison was the 2nd, 3rd or 16th president of the United States.  We're 
not sure which.2. Edison was originally from England.3. Edison's face is  on 
the $20.00 bill.4. Edison was a male.5. Edison probably had a wife and  
might have had children.6. Edison died a very long, long, long time ago.7.  
Edison helped to write the constitution.8. Edison had very long, wild hair.9.  
Edison was very old. 

One student surprised me by writing that  Edison invented the first talking 
doll. I was amazed so I asked her where she  had learned that information. 
It turns our that it was on a recent episode of  a TV show called 
Oddities. Who says TV can't teach!
Obviously, I plan on  starting at the very beginning of Edison's life and 
of course his many  inventions of which not even the light bulb was 
mentioned. 
If any of  you have any words of wisdom or little known/especially 
interesting facts  about Edison, please let me know. I plan on going pretty in 
depth 
with these  kids so anything I can learn will only help me capture their 
interest and put  these misconceptions to rest once and for  all. 
Thanks!Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :)

a very good book on edison was a streak of luck
but he was no different from any other capitalist of his era
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2013 8:18:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
abefed...@gmail.com writes:

Just  make sure that you don't teach them everything about Edison, he was
very  hard on employees and paid a low working wage and fired most who
disagreed  with him. He had a strange view-almost myopic view about art, the
people  that produced it and music. If it didn't fit his view or like he
simply  dismissed it as inferior. And just like his good friend Henry Ford
he was  very anti-Semitic.

Both men are viewed as great and in many cases they  were-both both had some
major flaws.
Abe Feder

On Fri, Jan 25,  2013 at 3:53 PM, Melissa Ricci riccib...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hello Everybody,
 As many of you know, I am a middle school music/band  teacher and I always
 run a unit about Edison and the phonograph. We  always end the unit by
 recording on a wax cylinder.
 For the  first time in many years, I am teaching two 6th grade general
 music  classes along with my band classes this year. Today was the first
 time  I approached the topic of Thomas A. Edison. To see where the class 
was
  with their present knowledge of Edison, I broke the kids into groups  and
 asked them to write down everything they knew or thought they knew  about
 him.
 Here is what the majority of the class wrote  down:
 1. Edison was the 2nd, 3rd or 16th president of the United  States. We're
 not sure which.2. Edison was originally from England.3.  Edison's face is 
on
 the $20.00 bill.4. Edison was a male.5. Edison  probably had a wife and
 might have had children.6. Edison died a very  long, long, long time 
ago.7.
 Edison helped to write the  constitution.8. Edison had very long, wild
 hair.9. Edison was very  old.

 One student surprised me by writing that Edison invented  the first 
talking
 doll. I was amazed so I asked her where she had  learned that information.
 It turns our that it was on a recent episode  of a TV show called
 Oddities. Who says TV can't teach!
  Obviously, I plan on starting at the very beginning of Edison's life  and
 of course his many inventions of which not even the light bulb  was
 mentioned.
 If any of you have any words of wisdom or  little known/especially
 interesting facts about Edison, please let me  know. I plan on going 
pretty
 in depth with these kids so anything I  can learn will only help me 
capture
 their interest and put these  misconceptions to rest once and for all.
 Thanks!Melissa
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Re: [Phono-L] update that Triumph or not?

2013-01-13 Thread Zonophone2006

just for a laugh
i have a triumph d2 with a straight horn
never set up for a cygnet
just how edison did things
zono
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2013 1:24:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
clockworkh...@aol.com writes:


What  Triumph cabinet does it have?  If it is a banner Triumph Model A then 
I  would definitely NOT drill holes into one of these cabinets.  The later  
raised panel with a thicker wood is better suited from a material strength  
viewpoint.  What reproducer does it have?  A Model O in a horizontal  
carriage would suggest a Cygnet horn would be a good addition so the 'new'  
holes 
might not detract from the machine.  If the carriage is a 45º small  
carriage with a Model C reproducer then I would stick with a smaller straight  
horn.  Is the machine equipped with a 2 and 4 minute mandrel shaft  gearing?  
Has the cabinet been refinished?  Many factors need to be  considered.

In making a decision to alter something that has remained  the same for 
100+ years, one must think if the modification would have been  accurate to the 
machine and how it will change the monetary value.   Triumphs late D and 
D2, E, F, and G should already have the factory drilled  holes.  A 2 minute 
Model C Triumph is a rare bird, I would leave it  virginal.  A Triumph Model B 
with added horizontal carriage and an O  Reproducer has already been 
altered, drill away Gridley.  A Triumph A  banner would have me want to return 
it 
to its catalog configuration.  I  have taken out 2/4 minutes gears on some 
of my machines and made them like  their original description from a 
contemporaneous catalog.  Anything  earlier like a Spring Motor and it would be 
sacrilege to drill the  holes.

Did I mention that I am an opinionated old fart?

Best  wishes to all on the list,

Al
Who thought swans used Cygnet horns to  keep from bumping into each other 
on the  pond...

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Re: [Phono-L] update that Triumph or not?

2013-01-13 Thread Zonophone2006

yes 
kudos to al sefl  aka clockwork home
and to george frow
they both are a blessing to us collectors of edisons
zono
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2013 1:24:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
glast...@comcast.net writes:

As ever,  Al has put it better and more complete than anyone else  could.

-Original Message- 
From:  clockworkh...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:10 AM
To:  phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] update that Triumph or  not?


What Triumph cabinet does it have?  If it is a banner  Triumph Model A then 
I 
would definitely NOT drill holes into one of these  cabinets.  The later 
raised panel with a thicker wood is better  suited from a material strength 
viewpoint.  What reproducer does it  have?  A Model O in a horizontal 
carriage would suggest a Cygnet horn  would be a good addition so the 'new' 
holes might not detract from the  machine.  If the carriage is a 45º small 
carriage with a Model C  reproducer then I would stick with a smaller 
straight horn.  Is the  machine equipped with a 2 and 4 minute mandrel 
shaft 
gearing?  Has  the cabinet been refinished?  Many factors need to be  
considered.

In making a decision to alter something that has  remained the same for 
100+ 
years, one must think if the modification would  have been accurate to the 
machine and how it will change the monetary  value.  Triumphs late D and 
D2, 
E, F, and G should already have the  factory drilled holes.  A 2 minute 
Model 
C Triumph is a rare bird, I  would leave it virginal.  A Triumph Model B 
with 
added horizontal  carriage and an O Reproducer has already been altered, 
drill away  Gridley.  A Triumph A banner would have me want to return it to 
its  catalog configuration.  I have taken out 2/4 minutes gears on some of 
my  
machines and made them like their original description from a  
contemporaneous catalog.  Anything earlier like a Spring Motor and it  
would 
be sacrilege to drill the holes.

Did I mention that I am an  opinionated old fart?

Best wishes to all on the list,

Al
Who  thought swans used Cygnet horns to keep from bumping into each other 
on  
the  pond...

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Re: [Phono-L] Regina music box question

2013-01-03 Thread Zonophone2006

hi all
try dave beck in neunan ga
he is below atlanta and have done several of mine
he is on the web for music box repairs
zono
 
 
In a message dated 1/3/2013 2:53:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
maff...@bresnan.net writes:

Phono  listers:



This may be a little off topic  however:



I have a Regina 22 music box without a damper rail or  for that matter, no
dampening. Not sure if it is worth repairing given my  interest and the
value of the machine.

I do recall some guidance  previously to some articles which certainly I 
wish
I had read before  obtaining mine!



Does anyone on the list:



repair  such and if so, what I might consider paying?

Anyone have a reference I  can contact to consult or sell the works for
parts?

Anyone feel a  need to trade for something phono?  *smile*





thanks



Bob



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Re: [Phono-L] AL JOLSON'S VICTOR 2-65 ORTHOPHONIC VICTROLA?

2012-12-27 Thread Zonophone2006

hi
this was offered on ebay a few years ago
i do not think it ever sold
zono
 
 
In a message dated 12/26/2012 5:29:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
steve_nor...@msn.com writes:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AL-JOLSONS-VICTOR-2-65-ORTHOPHONIC-VICTROLA-/1810490
44024  
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Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans

2012-12-01 Thread zonophone2006

you are so welcome grant
c u at the florida show this year
zono

-Original Message-
From: Grant Kornberg muldwo...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans

The finish on the phonograph is original, Ron.? Just as I stated in the 
listing.? I assure you I can tell the difference.? No need to sheesh your 
incredulity here.? Curt, if you're having trouble saving the ebay image and 
want 
me to send you the original, let me know.? Rob, thanks for hooking me up with 
the Grand Opera.? 

best,
Grant
(the seller)

-Original Message-
From: Zonophone2006 lt;zonophone2...@aol.comgt;
To: phono-l lt;phono-l@oldcrank.orggt;
Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans

yes i sold him a zonophone grand opera 

In a message dated 11/30/2012 9:56:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: 

He lives  in North Carolina and deals with only high quality machines. I  
bought a Pathe  cylinder machine from him several years ago and it is in  
pristine original  condition - you couldn't find a better example... 
gt; From:  zonophone2...@aol.com 
gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:01:41 -0500 
gt;  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
gt; Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay  scans 
gt;  
gt; hi all 
gt; this gentleman bought a machine from me  at the florida show 
gt; he does a great job restoring and photographing  the machines  
gt; zono 
gt;   
gt;   
gt; In a message  dated 11/29/2012 10:07:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,   
gt;  rich-m...@octoxol.com writes: 
gt;  
gt; Well,  here is the problem  with this, this large size picture is 1114 X  
gt; 901  pixels in size  and contains 142kB of information. You would expect  
gt; about  1mB  if it had not had the pixel density reduced. If you check you  
gt;  will  find this is the case for all of the ebay direct hosted pictures,   
gt; there is  very little there there. There is no way you can make  any  
gt; positive  statements regarding condition from the  information provided. 
gt;  
gt; On  11/29/2012 08:19 AM, Ron  L'Herault wrote: 
gt; gt; That can't be an original  finish.   You can see that it is shiny as  
heck  
gt; but 
gt; gt; you can  also  see stained wood underneath the finish.  Sheesh. 
gt;  gt; 
gt; gt; Ron  L 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; -Original  Message- 
gt; gt; From:  phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org   
[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]  
gt; On 
gt; gt;  Behalf Of  Vinyl Visions 
gt; gt; Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:24   PM 
gt; gt; To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
gt; gt; Subject: [Phono-L] Save  high  quality eBay scans 
gt; gt; 
gt; gt; Ever wish you could  save high quality eBay  scans from various  
listings?  
gt; For 
gt;  gt; example look at this current  listing: 
gt; gt;   
gt;   
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-Edison-Standard-Cylinder-Phonograph-w-Original- 
gt;  gt;   
gt;   
Blue-Flower-Horn-Gorgeous-/190758684576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6a1 
gt;  gt;  a87a0 Would you like to be able to save the image that you see when 

you   
gt; use 
gt; gt; the zoom tool to view the closeups?   Email me 
gt; gt;  at:vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)com and I will  email back a PDF   
gt; explaining 
gt; gt; how you can do it.  Curt 
gt; gt;  
gt; gt;   -- next part -- 
gt; gt; A non-text attachment  was  scrubbed... 
gt; gt; Name: How to copy and save high quality  scans from  eBay.pdf 
gt; gt; Type: application/pdf 
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gt; gt;  Desc: not available 
gt; gt;  URL: 
gt; gt;   
gt;   
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Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans

2012-11-30 Thread Zonophone2006

hi all
this gentleman bought a machine from me at the florida show
he does a great job restoring and photographing the machines 
zono
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2012 10:07:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rich-m...@octoxol.com writes:

Well,  here is the problem with this, this large size picture is 1114 X 
901  pixels in size and contains 142kB of information. You would expect 
about  1mB if it had not had the pixel density reduced. If you check you 
will  find this is the case for all of the ebay direct hosted pictures, 
there is  very little there there. There is no way you can make any 
positive  statements regarding condition from the information provided.

On  11/29/2012 08:19 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
 That can't be an original  finish.  You can see that it is shiny as heck 
but
 you can also  see stained wood underneath the finish.  Sheesh.

 Ron  L

 -Original Message-
 From:  phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] 
On
  Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
 Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:24  PM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Save high  quality eBay scans

 Ever wish you could save high quality eBay  scans from various listings? 
For
 example look at this current  listing:
  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-Edison-Standard-Cylinder-Phonograph-w-Original-
  
Blue-Flower-Horn-Gorgeous-/190758684576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6a1
  a87a0 Would you like to be able to save the image that you see when you  
use
 the zoom tool to view the closeups?  Email me
  at:vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)com and I will email back a PDF  
explaining
 how you can do it. Curt
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay scans

2012-11-30 Thread Zonophone2006

yes i sold him a zonophone grand opera
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2012 9:56:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
vinyl.visi...@live.com writes:

He lives  in North Carolina and deals with only high quality machines. I 
bought a Pathe  cylinder machine from him several years ago and it is in 
pristine original  condition - you couldn't find a better example...
 From:  zonophone2...@aol.com
 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 07:01:41 -0500
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Save high quality eBay  scans
 
 hi all
 this gentleman bought a machine from me  at the florida show
 he does a great job restoring and photographing  the machines 
 zono
  
  
 In a message  dated 11/29/2012 10:07:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
  rich-m...@octoxol.com writes:
 
 Well,  here is the problem  with this, this large size picture is 1114 X 
 901  pixels in size  and contains 142kB of information. You would expect 
 about  1mB  if it had not had the pixel density reduced. If you check you 
  will  find this is the case for all of the ebay direct hosted pictures,  
 there is  very little there there. There is no way you can make  any 
 positive  statements regarding condition from the  information provided.
 
 On  11/29/2012 08:19 AM, Ron  L'Herault wrote:
  That can't be an original  finish.   You can see that it is shiny as 
heck 
 but
  you can  also  see stained wood underneath the finish.  Sheesh.
  
  Ron  L
 
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[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] 
 On
   Behalf Of  Vinyl Visions
  Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:24   PM
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: [Phono-L] Save  high  quality eBay scans
 
  Ever wish you could  save high quality eBay  scans from various 
listings? 
 For
   example look at this current  listing:
   
  
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1902-Edison-Standard-Cylinder-Phonograph-w-Original-

  
Blue-Flower-Horn-Gorgeous-/190758684576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6a1
a87a0 Would you like to be able to save the image that you see when  
you  
 use
  the zoom tool to view the closeups?   Email me
   at:vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)com and I will  email back a PDF  
 explaining
  how you can do it.  Curt
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Regina (or like) Music Box in Orange Cnty, CA

2012-11-20 Thread zonophone2006

hi
i would also recommend  http://www.mechantiques.com/   on the web
its now owned by elise Roenigk
marty was in a  bad accident and passed away a few years ago
but they are very reputable  and good to deal with 
zono

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org; rkruz rk...@cox.net
Sent: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Regina (or like) Music Box in Orange Cnty, CA


Hi Robert ~

I'm not in touch with the music box dealers in California, but there's a great 
article that would be of use to you in considering a prospective machine; not 
so 
much about the array of choices, but about assessing the cost of various 
mechanical issues, from minor to major, including missing teeth on the combs, 
etc.  I see this link is for part 4 of a series on purchasing, so I would check 
out the other parts as well.  The author is not only an authority, but writes 
in 
a very accessible and extraordinarily informative style.

http://www.intertique.com/PurchasingMusicBoxPart4.html

Best,
Andrew Baron
Santa Fe

On Nov 19, 2012, at 11:40 AM, rk...@cox.net wrote:

 My wife wants a Regina or Polyphon type disc player.  I know enough about 
phonos to buy something online but not music boxes. 
 Do you know of a store or booth or individual in Southern California that we 
could visit this week that might have Reginas or that type of antique music 
player for sale?
 
 We appreciate any hints. 
 
 Thank you,
 Robert
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Vic O record cabinet

2012-11-16 Thread Zonophone2006

in the current issue of maps some one does advertise a cabinet for a victor 
 but i am sure its not specific for the o
zono
 
 
In a message dated 11/12/2012 4:04:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
deedeebl...@yahoo.com writes:

I have  not seen a record cabinet specifically for a Vic O.  I have a 
catalog for  The Cabinet That Matches and it shows record cabinet for models 
1 
through 6  but not the O.  But that does not mean that they don't exist. A 
few years  ago I bought a record cabinet at Union that I hoped was for a Vic 
O.  The  cabinet had trim around the top so I knew it was made for a 
specific machine.  When I returned home with the cabinet I was disappointed 
that 
the O did  not fit.  Thanks to our friend, Harvey Kravitz, I was able to 
complete a  Col BZ and it fits perfectly.  I have excellent copies of the 
Cabinet  that Matches that I am happy to mail for $7 including postage.  It's 
a  
great reprint that shows the Victor Junior through the rare Victrola XX and  
Auxetophone as well as flowered and brass belled Victor horns.  Jerry  Blais
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Re: [Phono-L] Other Interests

2012-11-13 Thread zonophone2006

tom 
that is a good idea
i have done that with ambrotypes and calotypes
just make sure you say who is in them for future descendants
zono

 

 

 

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From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 12:49 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Other Interests


I know that this is really off topic, so let me begin by saying so sorry,
but preserving Family history is very important to me.

Last year, I took 23 reels of 8mm movies that we found in my Grandmother's
basement when she passed away, to Alexander's Photo in Des Moines and had
them converted to DVD.  I then ripped thekm to my computer (Windows Vista
premium home edition 64 bit) used Windows movie maker to bring the reels
together and selected my favorite music to add a soundtrack.  Old timey
music, soundtrack from O Brother where art thou and such.  I burned them to
DVD's with my Lightscribe DVD burner and burned the family crest into the
DVD's along with a personalized name of each Family member under the Family
Crest.  I put together a few family photos and made artwork to go into the
front of the DVD cases.

Now all of my Aunts and Uncles, Parents, Cousins and my Sister have a copy
so that the family history can be preserved.  It cost me a few hundred
dollars, but the memories will live on!

Tom

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Nichol
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:25 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Other Interests

I also bought a projector to convert my 8mm movies. But it has a tendency to
damage films. Besides, it would be a huge amount of work. And DVD's are
considered of date these days. Best way is to have someone who has
professional 8mm to MP3 video converter equipment. Yes, you can buy a
machine like that for, uh, $15K or something, but is easier to let the
professionals do it for you.

Have you heard of Peggybank.com?  I just sent about 100 8mm films to to
Peggybank to have them converted. Check out their website, and read the
recent article by Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal on Peggybank. Do
a Google search on Peggybank Wall Street Journal. Even better than getting
MP3 files videos for your computer (or if you insist, old fashioned DVD's if
you pay extra), they give you a free webpage at peggybank.com where they
post ALL videos and still pictures that they digitize for you. So instead of
emailing my 100 MP3 videos to my relatives, I only have to give them the
link to my webpage! I believe friends will also be able to download the
videos, in addition to watching them, but I'm not sure (mine aren't ready
yet).

Jim Nichol

Sent from my iPad 3

On Nov 12, 2012, at 2:14 PM, John Selph jse...@cox.net wrote:

 I know this is a long shot, but does anyone on this forum have interests
in
 8mm/Super8 film and projectors?   I recently acquired a Bell and Howell
10ms
 to transfer my old home movies to DVD and found that the supply 
 spindle on the projector is broken.  Just wondering if anyone may have 
 one lying around that they want to part out.
 Thanks,
 John
 
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 Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
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Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???

2012-11-13 Thread zonophone2006

KURT ARE YOU LOOKING
he knows most records 
you can also contact him at na...@78rpm.com
he runs a good auction
zono

 

 

 

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From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 10:59 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???



A few days ago, I posted this inquiry about an unusual Columbia record that I 
found. Someone out there must know something about this record and its 
history...
Here are pics of the front and back:
http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site#!__columbia-record

Any info would be appreciated, 
Curt
 
 From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 00:10:35 -0500
 Subject: [Phono-L] Special Edition Columbia Record???
 
 
 I found a 12 one sided Columbia record which has a picture of Kaiser Wilhelm 
II on the label, with the phrases Gruss an den Kaiser - (Greetings to the 
Emperor) and Gott mit uns - (God with us). The number is 59408 - last patent 
date is Nov. 30, 1909 and the title is: Dem Deutschen Kaiser Gewidmet Von Dem 
Mozart-Verein in New York - (Dedicated to the German Emperor Of The Mozart 
Club 
in New York). The label is a very detailed and attractive one and the record 
was 
made in the US - I can provide pics if necessary.  Does anyone have any info to 
shed some light on this?
 Curt Angstman
  
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproduction mainspring quality

2012-10-18 Thread Zonophone2006

kuddos to ron 
he is a great guy also
i just got some parts from him in wayne
zono
 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2012 10:31:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kb...@charter.net writes:

I have  had great service and quality from Ron Sitko for several years.
Ken  Brekke

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org  [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Baron
Sent:  Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:37 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Cc:  gregory mogle
Subject: [Phono-L] Reproduction mainspring  quality

Could some of the groups technical folks suggest who currently  offers the
best quality reproduction mainsprings for a conventional  Victrola?

Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  I'm  familiar with most 
of
the common sources.

Andrew Baron
Santa  Fe
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Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed

2012-09-27 Thread zonophone2006


hi bruce
so there are three gibson phonographs now
i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one
is your complete
zono



-Original Message-
From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed


Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even 
ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your 
est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph 
ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts 
s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson 
raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. 
honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will 
orward it to you. 
- Original Message -
rom: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net 
o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM 
ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed 
Phono List: 

I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has 
lways helped. 

I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a 
art! 

First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it 
as: 

Tonalie sonora 
Clear as a bell 

I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my 
ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. 

Any info on the machine in general? 

I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor 
inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The 
rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance 
rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked 
ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. 

So: 

Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? 
oreover, anyone have one to part with? 
Or a workable substitute. 

Thanks 

Bob 
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Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed

2012-09-27 Thread zonophone2006


no
the only two i know of are two lucky collectors
they are rare rare rare
makes a montross berliner seem common



-Original Message-
From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed


An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came 
with 
 Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, 
hich I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only 
ollector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had 
 spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have 
wned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's 
an be seen ? 
Bruce 
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rom: zonophone2...@aol.com 
o: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed 

i bruce 
o there are three gibson phonographs now 
 know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one 
s your complete 
ono 

-Original Message- 
rom: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net 
o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org 
ent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am 
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed 

ow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even 
re obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your 
st bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph 
llector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts 
 well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson 
aveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. 
onograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will 
rward it to you. 
 Original Message - 
om: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net 
: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org 
nt: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM 
bject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed 
hono List: 
I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has 
ways helped. 
I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a 
rt! 
First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it 
s: 
Tonalie sonora 
lear as a bell 
I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my 
ctor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. 
Any info on the machine in general? 
I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor 
nding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The 
ank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance 
om the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked 
ke it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. 
So: 
Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? 
reover, anyone have one to part with? 
r a workable substitute. 
Thanks 
Bob 
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Re: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone???

2012-09-18 Thread zonophone2006

hi scott and denise
you should have called auction hunters 
they would have put it on tv 
such a deal they would have found
incidently  you did great on that show when you were on and also on the flea 
market one
good advertising for your business
hope you got good feedback from it
zono

 

 

 

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From: Scott and Denise Corbett sdcorb...@earthlink.net
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone???


We gladly purchased a genuine Crap-O-Phone from a man who had bought it and
found out it was fake. He purchased a nice Victor III from us and asked if I
would pay him $40 for his Crap-O-Phone because he never wanted to see it
again.  I gave him the $40 because it had a Victor III-IV motor and cast
iron turntable!

We saw another one that had an Edison TRIUMPH motor (yes really). They added
a gear for a spindle. I did not wish to pay his $425.00 price Triumph motor
or not.

Once, we were offered 300 Crap-O-Phones at $30 each.  I didn't even want
one, let alone a big pile of Crap (-O-Phones)! :-) We dubbed them
Franken-phonos because they were made from dead phonograph parts.

One more story: I knew a man who traveled to India now  then to visit his
wife's family. He went by a place that makes the C- O- Phones purchased
items that they removed from other 'dead' phonographs and couldn't use. His
suitcase was weighed down with original Victor back brackets, bullet brakes,
concert reproducers, etc, all for next to nothing!

Scott  Denise Corbett

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Back
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:31 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Have YOU ever purchased a Crap-O-Phone???

Anyone on the list ever knowingly buy a Crap-O-Phone?  As in...on purpose?

Fess up.  :-)

Ok.

I'll be first.  

Years ago, I saw an octagonal cased crap-o-phone that I thought was kind of
cool looking.  Someone from this list or the Phonolist said that they would
order a bunch of them and the price was reasonable, as I recall.

So I bought one. It had the usual portable motor and turntable, petaled
brass horn and the usual cobbled tone arm and reproducer. Not a bad sounding
reproducer, either.  I still have it and I point out  to visitors that these
things are still being made, albeit poorly.  

Anyone else ever buy one and if so, why? 

Dennis 
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Re: [Phono-L] What recession...???

2012-09-16 Thread zonophone2006

i bet the box was the draw 
siam soo you see alot of them but not the box



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From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 2:50 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] What recession...???




Apparently someone did not get the memo on the recession causing phono related 
stuff to drop in value:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221121665978?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170901196872?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison 11 panel cygnet horn

2012-09-15 Thread zonophone2006

what a bargain

-Original Message-
From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 9:48 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison 11 panel cygnet horn

Go to eBay, select advanced search, use cygnet as your single search 
term, select completed listings, click search. When the results come up 
on the left side select the Radio, Phonograph, TV, Phone category.

Or, reassemble if required, this link and paste into your browser.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Radio-Phonograph-TV-Phone-/29832/i.html?_sadis=200_ipg=200LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0_samihi=_samilow=_fpos=_udhi=_oexkw=_udlo=_adv=1_sop=10LH_Complete=1_dmd=1_okw=_fsct=_nkw=cygnet

On 09/15/2012 07:55 AM, Paul Christenzen wrote:
 Care to share with us what it went for?

 clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:
 They are more scarce since they were made in smaller numbers than the
 #10 Cygnet. This should translate to higher prices with one caveat.
 The #11 was really for the Triumph D2. You could put it on an E, F, or
 G Triumph if you didn't have the original Music Master Wood Cygnet
 Horn. When converting an earlier A, B, or C Triumph to 2 and 4 minute
 operation, the #11 was offered as a less expensive horn than the Music
 Master. From what I have seen, people who upgraded their Triumph went
 more for the Music Master than the #11.

 I was recently outbid on a #11 Cygnet that was just on eBay but only
 by 1 higher bid. It went for less than I had figured so I ended up
 with bidders remorse. I should have bid more aggressively...

 Best wishes to all,

 Al

 -Original Message-
 From: Barry Kasindorfba...@barrykasindorf.com
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 3:58 pm
 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison 11 panel cygnet horn

 Hi,
 I have this black and gold horn and it is extra. I got it because I
 thought it went with a Triumph but I don't have a machine for it
 anymore. Is it worth more than a regular 10 panel?

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Re: [Phono-L] ABANDONED Phonograph - Here's your chance to own an exciting piece of TV history...

2012-09-07 Thread zonophone2006

1908

-Original Message-
From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 5:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ABANDONED Phonograph - Here's your chance to own an 
exciting piece of TV history...

It's worth three times as much because it's a movie star?
  From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 14:35:20 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ABANDONED Phonograph - Here's your chance to own an 
exciting piece of TV history...

 VINTAGE Edison 1908 Amberola Record Player AS SEEN ON 
 ABANDONEDhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140844599247item=140844599247vectorid=229466

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Re: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay...

2012-09-02 Thread zonophone2006

What a name from the past   
i have not heard of karl frick in years
i mostly bought back then from neuwman miller
and al just wondered what ever happened to your clock work home
did you sell it to the oliphants
thanks for all you and george did on edison
zono



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From: clockworkhome clockworkh...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sat, Sep 1, 2012 5:28 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Thank you and this week on eBay...



I humbly say thank you to those who sent me a compliment.

This week on eBay there were several reasons why I wrote my Master Thesis on 
Edison machines then worked with George Frow to do the book.

Item 1 was a rare 200 thread per inch feedscrew and record mandrel from an M 
electric that allowed it to play Amberol records ! ! !   This seller doesn't 
know that even Edison could not make that work so a planetary gear was used on 
the 100 TPI feedscrew for the 200 TPI records.  But since he pulled the mandrel 
and feedscrew off of an M and the threads looked more fine to his eyes that is 
what ended up in the listing.  It's an M mandrel ! ! !

Item 2 was a rare two piece Fireside Horn reproduction.  This is one of the 
peach can Bondo Frick's Freaks horns.  I am surprised it hasn't come apart so 
someone had to take good care of it for the last 50 years.  Karl cut out the 
screw caps from cooking oil cans to make the screw connection between the two 
pieces of the horn.  The caps were rather narrow to the horn is slim until 
after 
the connection then the 'bloom' on the bell is rapid.  Viewed from the side it 
just looks odd at best.

Item 3 is a Standard with a broken reproducer limit pin and broken stylus bar 
diaphragm link.  I contacted the seller and was told, Every thing is there and 
it all works!

I guess I must be like Don Quixote jousting with windmills.

Best wishes everyone,

Al

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Re: [Phono-L] Gem Model E

2012-08-31 Thread zonophone2006

hi all
both edison and colombia did strange things
i have two aow's that are close in serial numbers and the horn connection on 
one has a step down where the horn connects and the other does not.
also i have  a 1901 edison spring motor with a north american top and and 
mandrel.
they were like any business and utilized what was at hand
they were not collectors like us but sold products
lol
zono



-Original Message-
From: Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Gem Model E


naw, keep it public.  we love it.

-- Peter
pjfra...@mac.com

On Aug 30, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:

 
 Sorry, meant to send this off list. Steve
 From: steve_nor...@msn.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:26:08 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Gem Model E
 
 
 Hello Al, Welcome back.  I hope you enjoyed yourself.   I have often 
 wondered 
when the Edison phonograph carriages went from clips to the set screw.  George 
Paul tells me Standard 52182 that has the clips and 53411 that has the screw 
left the factory in April 1902.  He has data that tells when machines left the 
factory.   I guess the set screw came out in October 1901 as the early B got 
the 
notch in the 17,000 range and the Model C appeared around 25,000, but this is 
only a guess based on the Frow book saying the standard got the push pull lift 
know in October 1901 when it did not get it until around Standard S108,000 
which 
would have been way into 1902.  It is my idea he got the push pull lift know 
and 
the set screw mixed up. I have learned it is very hard to pin Edison products 
down with dates. Best regards, Steve  Steve, 
 Both No.52182 and No.53411 left the factory about April 1902.  Makes sense, 
doesn't it?
 Best,George
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 From: clockworkh...@aol.com
 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:59:49 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Gem Model E
 
 
 Hi Steve:
 The highest number Model N Reproducer in a Gem E that I know of is 67830.  
It is a domed one with the large N on the fishtail weight.
 Hope that helps...
 Al
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] an interesting price for al self a.k.a. SEFL

2012-08-24 Thread zonophone2006

hi al
you and george did well publishing the books
i had pick up  the updated version at edison national site but the pictures 
were a bit woolier than the original 
and thanks to you i had many nice letters with george buying his edison dd book 
from him
thanks for the support in the hobby
rob



-Original Message-
From: clockworkhome clockworkh...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 1:13 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] an interesting price for al self  a.k.a. SEFL




Hi Guys!

I just got back from one week in Boston and a 5 week cruise to Europe so am 
answering this posting late.

Yes, that is Leah Burt's copy and I do hope she is OK.  She was a great help.

I had trouble selling the book at $20 which was a small loss on each copy.  I 
cannot imagine anyone buying a copy for $500.  Somewhere I have a couple of 
copies that George and I signed in case anyone ever asked for an autographed 
copy by both authors.  I know of only 10 copies signed by both of us.  My ego 
was never tied up in the book so I only signed copies when asked to do so.  
When 
I did it usually was something sappy like, May all your finds be rare ones!  
Truly it was my hope that every collector would find something truly 
spectacular, rare, and maybe something the book missed completely.  At the time 
I was only missing a few machines to complete my collection.  My payoff for the 
book were the machines I needed like a Triumph C and G.  I usually put my want 
list into each book.  God bless my fellow collectors they came through!

The books sold by me were specially stamped and numbered for U.S. sales, books 
1 
to 1000.  Only about 800 copies were sold as 200 were water damaged and crushed 
in shipping.  George's idiot printer failed to insure them or pack them safely 
and that took away any profit.  Those copies that George had were begun to be 
numbered sometime later and the second thousand copies he started with copy 01 
so Leah's copy at 05 was really 1005.

I hope those who still have copies continue to enjoy them.  If they helped 
someone NOT to buy a conglomeration of odd parts then I am happy.

Kindest regards to all on the list,

Al Sefl


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Re: [Phono-L] Yellow Highlighting (was World War I Victrola ad)

2012-08-17 Thread zonophone2006

hi all
i invested in a 17 inch gates transcription turntable for all my records now to 
save them
its my best investment now
zono



-Original Message-
From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Fri, Aug 17, 2012 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yellow Highlighting (was World War I Victrola ad)



Hello Dan,
 
I have heard that the combination of the new soft gaskets and using new quality 
needles each time kept the records in good shape.  I always assumed they were 
not used much.
 
Steve
 

 From: ediso...@verizon.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 01:58:19 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Yellow Highlighting (was World War I Victrola ad)
 
 Sticking with the Snob Appeal of Opera, of course. It DID work very well 
 for Victor, as proven by the immense number of Red Seals still found in most 
 collections today (though they are also obviously hardly played!) ... 
 The Boys getting slaughtered Over There must have wanted to hear Billy 
 Murray, Collins  Harlan, Jolson, and surely the latest Dance Hits by the 
 Victor Military Band.
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 
 By the way, I wonder why Victor thought that our troops in the trenches 
 wanted to listen to Caruso, Heifetz, Paderewski, etc. I'm sure that kind of 
 music wouldn't be any more popular then than today with our troops.
 
 Jim Nichol
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] an interesting price for al self

2012-08-13 Thread zonophone2006

HI
I have two of them 
so i am rich 
lol
not really but the earlier ones were numbered and at that time
al was nice enough to sign them
best to all
zono



-Original Message-
From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] an interesting price for al self



http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Edison-Cylinder-Phonographs-George-Frow-1978-numbered-05-first-edition-/150874254099
 
I did not know they were numbered until I saw this auction. No bidders yet. 
  

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[Phono-L] an interesting price for al self

2012-08-12 Thread zonophone2006

hope everyone covets their copy

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Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 10:52 am
Subject: zono thought you might like this item on eBay

An eBay member wants to show you this item

Hi, I saw this item on eBay and thought you might be interested.

 The Edison Cylinder Phonographs, George Frow, 1978 numbered 05 first edition 

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Re: [Phono-L] Regina - Was - How I started

2012-08-02 Thread zonophone2006

nice 
i love reginas 
i have a few myself



-Original Message-
From: Aaron Hunter ahunte...@comcast.net
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Regina - Was - How I started


Thanks Zono

At the time, I only knew it was (and still is) a music box with a 
beautiful sound.  It's an Oak Model 11, shipped in Nov. of 1903.

Aaron
 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 06:21:34 -0400 (EDT)
 From: zonophone2...@aol.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] How I started
 Message-ID: 8cf3de68f4a2c27-1108-18...@web-mmc-d03.sysops.aol.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 HI 
 What model regina
 you can get a birth certificate for it through the mbsi
 zono



 -Original Message-
 From: Aaron Hunter ahunte...@comcast.net
 To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 4:10 pm
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] How I started

 ... I was also lucky to get the Regina 
 that sat in my Grandmother's dining room.  That came out of the 
 farmhouse I lived in also, but long before I was born.

 Aaron Hunter
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Re: [Phono-L] How I started

2012-08-01 Thread zonophone2006

HI 
What model regina
you can get a birth certificate for it through the mbsi
zono

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Hunter ahunte...@comcast.net
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 4:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] How I started

My introduction was about 1950 with the Victor, V-0 in the attic of our 
farmhouse.  I was fascinated with how the records would roll down the 
steps and not all of them would break.  I now have the records that 
didn't break (or at least completely) and my brother has the machine. 
But the mid 50's was when I really started to enjoy the early records 
with my Godmother's VV-XI in her attic.  I would play it for hours, not 
knowing you had to change the needle once in awhile.  I now have that 
machine with the records included.  I was also lucky to get the Regina 
that sat in my Grandmother's dining room.  That came out of the 
farmhouse I lived in also, but long before I was born.

Aaron Hunter
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Re: [Phono-L] Apology to all

2012-07-30 Thread zonophone2006

hi all 
for me its interesting how people get the bug
i got mine at 13 and still diseased
LOL
zono



-Original Message-
From: Ken aka: OnATorrent onatorr...@yahoo.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Apology to all


Everyone,
 
It had been suggested to me by a couple of people to right up my story about 
how 
I fisrt got the Phono Fever at the age of 26 years old.  Unfortunately it will 
contain parts of my life away form the topic of Phonos as I overcame major life 
issues.  I guess now it would be inappropriate to post my story here.  If any 
of 
you that encouraged me to do this, and if you still would like to read my 
story, 
please contact me off board. As I donot want to cause problems or get people 
here upset with me.  I to am sorry for posting my off topic personal major life 
event.
 
I really did not mean to ruffle anyones feathers,
Kenneth
 



 From: Loran T. Hughes lo...@oldcrank.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Apology to all
  
John,

You owe no one an apology. Yes, one purpose of the list is to share 
further knowledge about the hobby. Phono-L is also a conduit for
socialization among those of us who share common bonds.

Folks, if you get your panties in a wad over some non-phono related
chatter, run your own listserve and make the rules. Hang out here, you
play by my rules.

Thanks,
Loran

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM, John Robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Good morning all.
 I received an email this morning from a list member stating that it would be 
nice if I did not use Phono-L for my personal email or soapbox, and that not 
everyone wants to hear all this. It was further stated that the purpose of 
Phono-L was to share and further our knowledge about our shared hobby. That is 
true.

 I simply responded to a public message that was posted by a list member. I 
 had 
written him privately asking him to let me know how he was doing. He answered 
publicly. Was it off subject? Yes. I did not use the list as a soap box' I 
merely made a compassionate response to a list member's message. I assume he 
received a similar response. I also assume that if the medical issue had been 
cancer or some other mainstream ailment, I would not have been accused of 
being on my soapbox, which implies a political attitude.

 Be that as it may, I am sorry if my public response to a public message 
offended anyone. I will try to keep my compassion for suffering private from 
now 
on.

 John Robles



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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147

2012-06-16 Thread zonophone2006

hi all
i think all we are trying to say is AMERICAN RESTORATION is a business and tv 
show and they are making lots of money on people who do know know who to turn 
to to repair their items
and the cost may not overcome the  benefit
its like pawn brokers and their experts
its all entertainment
zono

 

 

 

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From: GAYLE VOISINE, BECKY VOISINE bjvois...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 11:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147



In response to a lot of you dought sayers on the restoration of the diamond 
disc  
phono. I think , for one it is beter to restore than to junk! I like that they 
replaced the veneer, rather than try to patch the existing ,and look like  Shit 
, like a lot of restorations look like. I fix and restore a lot of radios , 
phonographs and some juke boxes for myself and freinds, and I don't do shitty 
work. I won't do anything that I wouldn't want for myself, as far as finished 
quality. I get some terrible stuff from supposedly restorers who are on 
registered websites
, that I would be ashamed to ask money for.You people need to get a life and 
not 
criticise people who are trying to keep something going on for others to enjoy 
instead of destroy , or tear apart and sell in pieces rather than sell as good 
working machine.
 I realize that there are alot of machines that are good for nothing but parts.
 I believe that we should try to keep thees machines going for eterninty, 
but they should work and look good not beat up and cobbled up! Stop being like 
a 
bunch of old women at a quilting bee, bitching about  old men! Thank you! Mr. 
Voisine.

 From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 9, Issue 147
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:00:01 -0700
 
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 2. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration
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 4. Re: American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration
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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:25:31 -0500
 From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com
 To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale
 restoration
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an
 Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. 
 Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm...
 
 Tom
 
 
 
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:36:34 -0400
 From: Jim Nichol jnic...@fuse.net
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale
 restoration
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 How did it look after it was restored?
 
 Jim
 
 On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:25 PM, Tom Jordan wrote:
 
  So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an
  Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored. 
  Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00. Hmmm...
  
  Tom
 
 
 
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 Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:34:54 -0400
 From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale
 restoration
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 reply-type=original
 
 Ack. Last time I saw them touch a phono, they soaked the motor in 
 industrial de-greaser, never opened the spring case, and did nothing with 
 the reproducer. They didn't even understand that it was run by a spring - 
 they said it was a flywheel. To top it all, the horn got a hideous paint 
 job that only a clown could love!
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:25 PM
 Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippendale restoration

Re: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union

2012-06-15 Thread zonophone2006

YES TIM
HOPE ALL TURNS OUT WELL FOR YOU
ZONO

 

 

 

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From: Stan Stanford s...@clarphon.com
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 10:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union


Tim,
   I'm glad you are getting better and wish you the best in recovery.   So
sorry you missed the Union show.   

Stan Stanford
Oregon Territory

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Tim McCormick
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:30 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: [Phono-L] Why I never made it to Union

Folks,

After weeks of preparation, time and expense I drove 4 ½ hours to
Elgin, IL and checked into the Hampton Inn on Thursday evening.  I was
looking forward to spending Friday, Saturday and Sunday with friends at the
worlds largest antique phonograph show hosted at Donleys Wild West Town in
Union, IL.  This was my best and last face-to-face opportunity to convince
other talented individuals to replace me as President of the International
Antique Phonograph Society and as Editor of our magazine In The Groove.

About mid-way during my drive, I started feeling a little feverish
and my stomach developed an ache, not really a pain.  I was blaming it on a
possible bad raison from the Trail Mix dried fruit I enjoyed the night
before.  I checked into the Elgin, IL Hampton Inn, and carried in my
suitcase and some of the equipment I brought along for the Phonovention
presentations.  I started feeling worse, so I called it a night and went to
bed at 8:00 p.m.  At 9:30 or so, I knew there was something a dose of
Pepto-Bismol just would not cure.  I got up and dressed, but I could not
stand up straight.  As I walked the hallway from my hotel room to the front
desk to ask for directions to the nearest hospital, knowing full well that
Id never be able to drive there myself, I was met by a small group of
fellow antique phonograph collectors who were headed to their rooms, and one
person who was at that time a complete stranger to me, Bob Barnett, offered
to drive me in his car to the hospital emergency room.  He offered to stay
with me until I was either dismissed or admitted - this was at 10:00 at
night.  I gave Bob, my new found friend, the keys to my truck and asked him
to give them to the Hampton Inns front desk.  I had to make some quick
arrangements with HAPS President, Rich Buck, to empty my truck of all of the
items I had prepared and brought with me for our trade show booth so it
could be set up and ready for the event at 8:00 a.m. the following morning.
Rich, John Hauger, Joan Rolfs and I am sure many others pitched in and
completed what needed to be done in my absence.

The CAT scan and blood tests proved that it was a ruptured,
gangrenous appendix.  I had the emergency surgery at 9:00 Friday morning as
Union was getting underway.  I was released from Sherman Hospital late
Monday afternoon.

To put it mildly, I was very disappointed to miss Union and
Phonovention 2012.  Rich Buck dropped by the hospital with a card prepared
by Joan Rolfs and signed by several attendees and friends.  He informed me
that Phonovention was very successful and that Patrick Feasters
presentation room was packed to capacity.

Now that I am home, I am receiving cards in the mail and E-Mails
from well-wishers with questions on what occurred, so I thought it best to
let everyone know I am doing great and getting ready to start compiling the
August / September Issue of In The Groove.

Convalescingly Yours,

Tim McCormick
International / Michigan Antique Phonograph Society


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Re: [Phono-L] American restoration. Edison Chippandale restoration

2012-06-14 Thread zonophone2006

wow
i will have to have my victrola 4 restored there
what a bargain

 

 

 

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From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com
To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, Jun 13, 2012 11:42 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] American restoration.  Edison Chippandale restoration


So I was watching American Restoration tonight and a guy brought in an
Edison C-19 Chippendale phonograph to be restored.  
Settled upon price for the restoration, $4,500.00.  Hmmm...

Tom

 

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Re: [Phono-L] al sefl

2012-05-29 Thread zonophone2006

I so agree
i got my first machine when i was 13 in 1963 in vt
i bought a victrola for 5 dollars as i could not afford an edison for 10
my how times have changed
rob

 

 

 

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From: clockworkhome clockworkh...@aol.com
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Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 8:52 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] al sefl




Dear Ron:

Thank you for the kind words.  When I started collecting there was only the 
Read 
- Welch book, From Tinfoil to Stereo.  Now we have a wealth of information from 
many fine authors and researchers.  The collector society groups have regularly 
turned out some very respectable research articles as well.  I very much enjoy 
seeing how the hobby has become aware of phonographic history and embraced it.  
Tim and Paul's great books would go nowhere without active collectors 
purchasing 
their great works.  So, the real thanks should go to the collectors like 
yourself who seek knowledge about what they have, what is original, and how to 
preserve it. Your support is the real power keeping this history alive.  AND... 
  
That would be everyone else on this list too ! ! !

Kindest regards to all,

Al





-Original Message-
From: zonophone2006 zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 4:19 am
Subject: [Phono-L] al sefl


hi al
ow you are one of the best i  have known on the list
ears ago when you first wrote the book with george on edison phonographs you 
ere kind enough to sell me two copies and autograph them
nd you introduced me by mail to george frow who i bought his new edison diamond 
isk book from
t is nice to have a lot of people on this list with varying expertise
nd tim, you and george paul have done us all a great service on the great books 
ou both have done
ob mallett


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Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Re: Rob Mallet

2012-05-28 Thread zonophone2006

john 
private apology long ago accepted
lets move on to better subjects
we have all made mistakes on the list at times so 
i am not upset over all this 
its past now 
best to all
rob mallett



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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, May 24, 2012 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Re:  Rob Mallet


To the Board: As you all know I made a grave mistake in identity between two 
Robs, one of whom is a regular contributor to this board, and one of whom 
ripped off a friend of mine for significant money. Rob Mallet wrote me to 
correct the misunderstanding, which he did in a polite and gentlemanly manner. 
I 
apologized profusely for the misunderstanding (three separate times) and was 
forgiven. 

Since that time, I have been bullied and harassed by a member of this board 
(who 
I have never seen participate in anything), who declared himself judge, jury 
and 
executioner and has been demanding that I make a public apology. I told him 
that 
I had apologized to Rob Mallet (I thought my apologies were public; turns out 
Rob had written me off list so the responses were private) and that it was none 
of his business to which he responded When you shoot your mouth off on a 
forum, 
YOU make it my business and everyone elses.  If you're going to do it publicly 
have the guts to apologize publicly.  Remember, I wrote you privately, not on 
the forum where I probably should have.

I forwarded to him my apologies to Rob from my home computer at lunchtime. 
Later 
in the after noon he wrote Cute answers but I still don't see anything 
public  I informed him I was on a government computer at work and could 
not 
use it for private use, and to get off my back, to which he stated Hasn't 
stopped you so far. I was answering that email on my cellphone.
I don't want to continue this subject but I am being forced to. No one else has 
demanded a public apology, everyone seemed to understand that it was a mistake 
not made maliciously, and in fact the thread had died out. Again, as I thought 
the apologies I did make were public, I didn't give it a second thought.
But since this person has nothing better to do than appoint himself the Emily 
Post of the board, and seems to be obsessing on this, (and since I planned a 
public apology this evening anyhow) I publicly apologize to Rob Mallet for the 
mistaken identity issue that took place on this board yesterday, and I thank 
him 
for his gracious reply (sent to me privately).
End of subject.

John Robles




 From: john9...@pacbell.net john9...@pacbell.net
To: John Robles john9...@pacbell.net 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet
 



- Forwarded message -
From: john9...@pacbell.net john9...@pacbell.net
Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 8:46 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet
To: zonophone2...@aol.com

Oh no! I think I have the wrong Rob! I apologize profusely!
John Robles

- Reply message -
From: zonophone2...@aol.com
Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 7:22 am
Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org

hi
i think you have the wrong rob
i am not divorced nor have i ever sold a reproducer to john
what is going on  here
thanks
rob mallett
aka 
zono







-Original Message-
From: Tim Fabrizio phonop...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


I have to chime in here and say I've known Rob for many years and he's a 
stand-up guy. Regarding the reproducer John refers to, it sounds like an 
unfortunate situation, but it must be some kind of mix-up. Rob works 
ridiculously long hours, there are whole periods of time I can't reach him 
because he's so busy. I don't know what happened regarding the reproducer, and 
I 

can see why John is upset -- but the Rob I know is not a crook and not even 
close! Rob subscribes to this list, so I know he is reading this stuff. So, 
there's my two cents..

Best wishes to all, Tim Fabrizio.







-Original Message-
From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


Steve - 

It is edisoniareco...@yahoo.com. Did he rip you off too? A friend of mine ( a 
known researcher and author) ordered a CAT reproducer from him something like 
five years ago, and Rob cashed the check (over $200) and never sent the item. 
My 


friend told me about it recently and I told him I had Rob's email address and 
would mention it, and I got this email back from Rob saying that he had the 
reproducer but had never mailed it because he got divorced and had to move and 
he lost the address in the move. So I am all happy, thinking I am going to get 
my friend's reproducer. I gave him the mailing address, and he never sent it. I 
have written him three or four times since then and never received a response. 
So I guess

[Phono-L] al sefl

2012-05-28 Thread zonophone2006

hi al
now you are one of the best i  have known on the list
years ago when you first wrote the book with george on edison phonographs you 
were kind enough to sell me two copies and autograph them
and you introduced me by mail to george frow who i bought his new edison 
diamond disk book from
it is nice to have a lot of people on this list with varying expertise
and tim, you and george paul have done us all a great service on the great 
books you both have done
rob mallett




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Re: [Phono-L] VTLA 12 Record Storage boxes needed.

2012-05-28 Thread zonophone2006

hi bruce and all 
if someone has a complete set i am looking for one too with the rings
i got an early vtla from ron haring a few years back and love to have a set to 
complete it
zono



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From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Phono-L Phono-L@oldcrank.org
Cc: Phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 6:23 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] VTLA 12 Record Storage boxes needed.


Just inquiring to see if any of you have Some of the early Victor 12 Record 
boxes that came with the Victor L Door VTLA ? I am in need of 3 of the 12  
Boxes (each box was designed to hold 15 records) to complete the interior 
storage area of my VTLA. I would prefer the later lettered boxes (best case 
scenario would be 12 boxes D, E,  G), but in leiu of that, I would be happy 
with either 3 of the earlier non-lettered style boxes, or any other 3 12 
Lettered box combination that you might have in stock. Looking forward hearing 
from you. Thank you for your time. 

Sincerely, 

Bruce 
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Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

2012-05-24 Thread zonophone2006

THANKS STEVE
I HOPE ALL IS WELL IN TARPON AREA
ROB

 

 

 

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From: Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


I will second that...

Steve Andersen

 
  Rob Mallet is part of an outstanding bunch of people that really make the 
Orlando show fun to go to.  He has always been very nice to communicate with 
and 
helpful.  
 
 Steve
 
 

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Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment

2012-05-24 Thread zonophone2006

RON IS ALSO A GREAT GUY TO DEAL WITH
I have bought several higher end victrolas from him
zono

 

 

 

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From: William Berndt bassethoundt...@gmail.com
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 2:08 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment


In February I purchased a Victor VE8-30X. I really wanted one with a spring 
motor, but when I visited Ron Haring, of the six or so machines he had (he has 
an unbelievable inventory - well worth a visit) one was in such fine condition 
that I caved and bought it.  Having sold my Victor VV4-3, I was initially 
surprised that it didn't sound as good - rather dull, and less volume.  First I 
removed the tonearm, and discovered there was no gasket underneath, so I made 
one out of rubber, which improved the sound a bit.  I started using my HMV 5B 
soundbox which greatly helped the higher frequencies, and had been using since, 
but several people said it still sounded thin with less warmth and bass 
response 
than it should have.  Recently, I read of adjusting the screw on the soundbox 
balance bar, and did so in 1/8 turn increments - wow, what a difference!  After 
an hour or so of turns and tests, I now have dramatically more volume, and very 
nicely balanced with highs like the HMV 5B, but
  with better bass.

Are there any more tweaks I can do?  Ron already replaced the ball bearings 
in 
the soundbox, and I always use teflon tape on the tonearm end for a tight seal.

Many thanks for any suggestions,

Will
Chicago, IL
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Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

hi
i think you have the wrong rob
i am not divorced nor have i ever sold a reproducer to john
what is going on  here
thanks
rob mallett
aka 
zono

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Fabrizio phonop...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


I have to chime in here and say I've known Rob for many years and he's a 
stand-up guy. Regarding the reproducer John refers to, it sounds like an 
unfortunate situation, but it must be some kind of mix-up. Rob works 
ridiculously long hours, there are whole periods of time I can't reach him 
because he's so busy. I don't know what happened regarding the reproducer, and 
I 
can see why John is upset -- but the Rob I know is not a crook and not even 
close! Rob subscribes to this list, so I know he is reading this stuff. So, 
there's my two cents..

Best wishes to all, Tim Fabrizio.

 

 

 

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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


Steve - 

It is edisoniareco...@yahoo.com. Did he rip you off too? A friend of mine ( a 
known researcher and author) ordered a CAT reproducer from him something like 
five years ago, and Rob cashed the check (over $200) and never sent the item. 
My 

friend told me about it recently and I told him I had Rob's email address and 
would mention it, and I got this email back from Rob saying that he had the 
reproducer but had never mailed it because he got divorced and had to move and 
he lost the address in the move. So I am all happy, thinking I am going to get 
my friend's reproducer. I gave him the mailing address, and he never sent it. I 
have written him three or four times since then and never received a response. 
So I guess he's just another crook. If you ask me, he committed mail fraud by 
advertising the reproducer, accepting the order, cashing the check and never 
shipping the product.
John Robles




 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet
 




Hello,

I am trying to contact Rob, the e-mail I have did not work.

Steve
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


 

 

 

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From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 8:11 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet






Hello,
 
I am trying to contact Rob, the e-mail I have did not work.
 
Steve
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


 hi all
again
what is this all about
i don't make or sell cat reproducers
if someone is using my name i would like to get to the bottom of it
incidently i have been in the same house here in florida since 1974 and married 
for five years to the same lady
not getting a divorce here
rob mallett
zono

 

 

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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


Steve - 

It is edisoniareco...@yahoo.com. Did he rip you off too? A friend of mine ( a 
known researcher and author) ordered a CAT reproducer from him something like 
five years ago, and Rob cashed the check (over $200) and never sent the item. 
My 
friend told me about it recently and I told him I had Rob's email address and 
would mention it, and I got this email back from Rob saying that he had the 
reproducer but had never mailed it because he got divorced and had to move and 
he lost the address in the move. So I am all happy, thinking I am going to get 
my friend's reproducer. I gave him the mailing address, and he never sent it. I 
have written him three or four times since then and never received a response. 
So I guess he's just another crook. If you ask me, he committed mail fraud by 
advertising the reproducer, accepting the order, cashing the check and never 
shipping the product.
John Robles




 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet
 




Hello,

I am trying to contact Rob, the e-mail I have did not work.

Steve
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

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From: zonophone2006 zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

 hi all
again
what is this all about
i don't make or sell cat reproducers
if someone is using my name i would like to get to the bottom of it
incidently i have been in the same house here in florida since 1974 and married 
for five years to the same lady
not getting a divorce here
rob mallett
zono

-Original Message-
From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

Steve - 

It is edisoniareco...@yahoo.com. Did he rip you off too? A friend of mine ( a 
known researcher and author) ordered a CAT reproducer from him something like 
five years ago, and Rob cashed the check (over $200) and never sent the item. 
My 

friend told me about it recently and I told him I had Rob's email address and 
would mention it, and I got this email back from Rob saying that he had the 
reproducer but had never mailed it because he got divorced and had to move and 
he lost the address in the move. So I am all happy, thinking I am going to get 
my friend's reproducer. I gave him the mailing address, and he never sent it. I 
have written him three or four times since then and never received a response. 
So I guess he's just another crook. If you ask me, he committed mail fraud by 
advertising the reproducer, accepting the order, cashing the check and never 
shipping the product.
John Robles

 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

Hello,

I am trying to contact Rob, the e-mail I have did not work.

Steve

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Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


hi
i believe the rob you need is rob lomas 
i think he was the one who ran edisonia 
it was not me
other than doing the orlando show for sales 
thats about it for me besides being a crazy collector
rob mallett
zono


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From: zonophone2006 zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 11:06 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet



 hi all
again
what is this all about
i don't make or sell cat reproducers
if someone is using my name i would like to get to the bottom of it
incidently i have been in the same house here in florida since 1974 and married 
for five years to the same lady
not getting a divorce here
rob mallett
zono

 

 

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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet


Steve - 

It is edisoniareco...@yahoo.com. Did he rip you off too? A friend of mine ( a 
known researcher and author) ordered a CAT reproducer from him something like 
five years ago, and Rob cashed the check (over $200) and never sent the item. 
My 

friend told me about it recently and I told him I had Rob's email address and 
would mention it, and I got this email back from Rob saying that he had the 
reproducer but had never mailed it because he got divorced and had to move and 
he lost the address in the move. So I am all happy, thinking I am going to get 
my friend's reproducer. I gave him the mailing address, and he never sent it. I 
have written him three or four times since then and never received a response. 
So I guess he's just another crook. If you ask me, he committed mail fraud by 
advertising the reproducer, accepting the order, cashing the check and never 
shipping the product.
John Robles




 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet
 




Hello,

I am trying to contact Rob, the e-mail I have did not work.

Steve
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

just making sure everyone knows this is not my business
this is edisonia records and i believe a rob lomas owns this but not sure
rob mallett

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From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 1:59 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

Steve - 

It is edisoniareco...@yahoo.com. Did he rip you off too? A friend of mine ( a 
known researcher and author) ordered a CAT reproducer from him something like 
five years ago, and Rob cashed the check (over $200) and never sent the item. 
My 
friend told me about it recently and I told him I had Rob's email address and 
would mention it, and I got this email back from Rob saying that he had the 
reproducer but had never mailed it because he got divorced and had to move and 
he lost the address in the move. So I am all happy, thinking I am going to get 
my friend's reproducer. I gave him the mailing address, and he never sent it. I 
have written him three or four times since then and never received a response. 
So I guess he's just another crook. If you ask me, he committed mail fraud by 
advertising the reproducer, accepting the order, cashing the check and never 
shipping the product.
John Robles

 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Rob Mallet

Hello,

I am trying to contact Rob, the e-mail I have did not work.

Steve

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