Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
[12:21:28.164] check_player:253 player address mismatch 192.168.0.1 169.254.90.207 Triode wrote: Can you identify where the two IP addresses are - ... - are you using NAT? The 169.254.xxx.yyy IP block is the range reserved for AutoIP (see http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3927 ) - AutoIP is used by PC (Windows) clients to assign themselves an IP address if they are not able to get an address from a DHCP server. Probably this means that either the OP's client has had its DHCP disabled, or that his Gateway/Router is not running a DHCP server; but it might be a one time drop out, so try resetting the NIC (or rebooting the PC) since this may be sufficient to force it to grab an address via DHCP... AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Any reason why the Triode plugin (latest build) would be showing this error? Any idea how to fix? , or } expected while parsing object/hash, at character offset 18 (before error: General tr...) at C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotify/ParserBase.pm line 89. PS see attached screenshot... +---+ |Filename: Untitled.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13568| +---+ AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
stephanvdplas wrote: What exactly is validating? What kind of traffic should be routed in which way(s)? The Spotify terms conditions say you may only play its streams on authorised client(s) associated with your account; in other words you are not allowed to rebroadcast its streams to unknown or non authorised players. This is probably a reasonable deal for Spotify to protect its revenues. So if Triode would attempt to do what you want, he would soon have the Spotify lawyers knocking on his front door. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Triode wrote: Happy to discuss by email if you pm me an address. Hi Triode, I PM'd you as kindly offered. However I am leaving open on this forum the issue about your plugin *not playing radio streams*. This is not a CLI / JSON related issue. On the normal player UI, if you browse Apps/Spotify/Radios/XYZ/=Play the radio stream doesn't play (testing LMS 7.7.x and Squeezeplay on Windows)... AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Spotify Premium Plugin (Beta)
Hi Triode, I have spent a few days extending Whitebear so that your Spotify plugin also appears in the browse tree of the ContentDirectory, and it more or less works fine now. (Whereas by contrast, the Logitech Spotify plugin does not work at all). Nevertheless I encountered a couple of difficulties, where perhaps you could help me. Whitebear uses the CLI to browse the library directory, command the players, and get player status feedback -- specifically commands like Code: spotify items i j item_id:1.2.3 [player_mac] spotify playlist play item_id:1.2.3 [player_mac] status My questions are: 1) I find that sometimes the library browse query does not return the proper CLI *count* result. For example -spotify items 0 1 item_id:new_tracks- often only returns *count:1* even though on the player's native browser, there are many new tracks. I suspect there may be some caching going on, and that your plugin may not be interrogating Spotify to update the current real value of count. Is there a way to ensure the query returns the full proper value of count? 2) The library browse query -spotify items 0 1 item_id:radios- seems not to return items that are playable via the -[player_mac] spotify playlist play item_id:1.2.3- command? Any tips about what I may be doing wrong here? 3) When a player is playing a Spotify item, how would I properly use the -[player_mac] status- query to determine the actual Spotify item_id of the track being played? And how would I retrieve the track's meta data and cover art url? Hoping you can help. PS it looks like really great plug-in. AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear QNAP and WHS v2
wytco0;698752 Wrote: Is there anyway round this? It would be good if I could run Whitebear on my WHS box and keep LMS on the QNAP. Currently, no. (Sorry for that). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94383 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Coming soon... The iPeng teaser thread
pippin;694929 Wrote: ...and it looks impressively, out of this worldily good and yes, even the artwork will actually use full resolution on the iPad's retina display on that screen (unfortunately except for the Squeezebox icons) and it uses an out-of-this-worldily-beautiful font that for some reason renders better on an iThingy than the ones that come with the iThingies So, what I want to know is: whose soul did you have to sell in order to get your hands on one of those new iThingies before they were announced... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93980 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear Help - Network Sharing
You could also try turning on IP forwarding between the two sub-nets http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315236 -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93001 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear Help - Network Sharing
jamesgangnc;683781 Wrote: My guess is whitebear is confused because I have two networks. (I saw another post where someone had an old network and that confused whitebear as well.) Anyone know a way to control which network or which ip address gets picked up by whitebear?Hey, the bear never gets confused -- he always chooses the network that Windows offers first. I think that as a rule Windows offers the network with the lowest IP address first. So perhaps one solution is to play around with IP addresses. (Not exactly the coolest solution, I know...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93001 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WHITEBEAR Server 2.2.- PS3 - no tracks
A new version of Whitebear has been posted. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91213 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WHITEBEAR Server 2.2.- PS3 - no tracks
TomDoe;666073 Wrote: i installed the Whitebear server and server and the squeezebox structure are visible in ps3, but when i tray to select a track it displays: there are no tracks.Hi TomDoe, I posted you some Private Messages, but got no response (??) In the emantime, on another thread, I got some feedback from two users where their PS3 works fine with Whitbear. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91310 So I am interested to find out what could be different in your case? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91213 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WHITEBEAR Server 2.2.- PS3 - no tracks
TomDoe;666073 Wrote: I installed the Whitebear server and server and the squeezebox structure are visible in ps3, but when i tray to select a track it displays: there are no tracks. Any ideas?I took this conversation offline with TomDoe, but in case anyone else faces the same issues, here are some generic things you could check: 1) Did you try the latest build of Whitebear? 2) Do any native MP3 tracks show up in the Content Directory? What about native WAV or WMA files? Do any of these show up? 3) Do you have LAME installed? If not does installing it cause the files to show up now? 4) Did you try playing around with Whitebear's tray application Settings | Client Compatibility Settings? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91213 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2
A new minor point release version of Whitebear Media Server has been released today. http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver Improvements in this release: 1. Improved client compatibility 2. Improved user interface on Tray Monitor (e.g. added live check for updates) 3. Improved user interface on Browse Trees (e.g. added top level icons) 4. Bug fixes concerning browsing of music folders and app folders PS if you feel like making a donation, I added a link for that on the download page :-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90841 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WHITEBEAR Server 2.2.- PS3 - no tracks
TomDoe;666073 Wrote: i installed the Whitebear server and server and the squeezebox structure are visible in ps3, but when i tray to select a track it displays: there are no tracks.Had you previously had it working with an earlier version of Whitebear? i.e. is this a new bug that appeared with Whitebear v2.2? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91213 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] WHITEBEAR Server 2.2.- PS3 - no tracks
TomDoe;666097 Wrote: Any ideas how should I proceed?In Whitebear v2.2 I did eliminate one of the non standard extended services because in my experience it was never actually being called. But perhaps after all your PS3 does use this service :-( So I have just made a new test build of Whitebear which restores that missing service, and I have sent you a Private Message with a link where you can download it. Please try that new build and let me know how you get on. If it does not work, then please turn on Whitebear's logging on the Http Server and send me the log file. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91213 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.2
A new version of Whitebear Media Server has been released. http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver Improvements in this version: 1. The browse tree is now the same as in Squeezebox Server. 2. There is improved client compatibilty with various clients (e.g. Humax, BubbleUpnP, 2Play, PlugPlayer, J.River, second instance of Squeezebox Server, xbmc, Sony TVs, etc.) 3. Transcoded files are now chached for faster replay, and track seek is now supported. 4. The support for the UPnP Search function has been extended. 5. The tray monitor provides more information and control. 6. And general stability improvements and bug fixes have been made. PS if you feel like making a donation, I added a link for that on the download page :-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90841 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear Server - DLNA client won't play FLAC files
jazzman;659865 Wrote: The songs now play as MP3 ... They start out as PCM.Can you please confirm that I understand you correctly: Are you saying that it tries first to play in PCM format but the PCM playback fails, and it then tries successfuly to play in MP3? jazzman;659865 Wrote: songs now play as MP3 800+KPSWhitebear does not deliver MP3 at 800+kbps; when Whitebear transcodes to MP3 it delivers 320kbps, and when it transcodes to PCM it delivers 1411kbps = so 800+kbps implies PCM is being sent rather than MP3... jazzman;659865 Wrote: I turned on the HTTP server logging and played 4 songs and the file is 34MB? Is this right?Correct. The log file includes the full data for the music stream; so the file grows very large. The interesting part is the first tens of kBytes in the log file; the requests starting with the text GET /tid_. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90577 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear Server - DLNA client won't play FLAC files
jazzman;660001 Wrote: Looks like the deafult is pcm and then when the track plays, it says mp3 I played only a few seconds of a song. The log file is in this message, since it wont attach I'll post it in three attachmentsHi jazzman, I think posting the full log file on this forum, is going to drive the other users nuts. And anyway, the first parts you sent are too early in the transactions so they tell me nothing useful. I will send you a Private Message on this forum with instructions how you can send me the log file. Please check you PM mailbox. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90577 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear Server - DLNA client won't play FLAC files
jazzman;659615 Wrote: I am on the latest version of SBS and using an Onkyo tx nr509 with DLNA I couldn't get it to see my SBS native, so I installed Whitebear. Voila. I can see my SBS, all of the files, folder, search works everything is great.That is good to hear!! jazzman;659615 Wrote: I go to play a FLAC track, and is says it cannot play. AT the bottom, it is showing it as a PCM track.When Whitebear offers a track to a music player, it offers that track in multiple formats: 1) track transcoded to PCM 2) track transcoded to MP3 (but transcoded MP3 is only offered if you have LAME installed -- see below) 3) non transcoded track in whatever is its native format I don't know your Onkyo, but some players are -- shall we say -- not very compliant to DLNA specifications. According to the DLNA specifications the baseline must support format is PCM, so in theory your Onkyo ought to accept and play offer 1) above. However, quite a few players don't support PCM, but then in theory they should fall back to accepting and playing offer 2) above; but you don't have LAME installed, so offer 2) is not currently being offered... = So my advice to you is as follows: i) Check the specifications of your player. Does it support PCM? If so, then it OUGHT to be accepting offer 1), and in this case there is probably some other problem needing to be resolved... ii) Install LAME, and try again. In which case offer 2) will be made, and your player should accept that offer and play it. jazzman;659615 Wrote: I can play the 10 or so MP3's I haveGood. At least this confirms that you player can indeed play MP3. jazzman;659615 Wrote: when I look in the WB setup, I see the Lame MP3 extension is not installedYou don't need LAME to play native MP3 tracks; LAME is only needed when transcoding non MP3 tracks to MP3 -- or vice versa. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90577 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear Server - DLNA client won't play FLAC files
jazzman;659777 Wrote: LPCM (Linear PCM) Sampling rates of 8 kHz, 11.025 kHz, 12 kHz, 16 kHz, 22.05 kHz, 24 kHz, 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 64 kHz, 88.2 kHz, and 96 kHz are supported. Quantization bit: 8 bit, 16 bit, 24 bit Whitebear produces 16 bit 2 channel LPCM at 41.1 kHz. So it should work fine with your player. Can you please turn on Whitebear's Http Server logging, and send me a log file? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90577 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Gblenn;658083 Wrote: weather it is possible, using Whitebear on top of SBS, to also be using iPeng as the controlling application. OR, is it so that I need to use some DLNA Control point in order to stream to a Networked Receiver with Whitebear??No, iPeng is a native only control point. I guess you receiver would have its own basic CP UI on the TV screen and/or its front panel. But if you want something fancier, you would need to use a third party application; Windows 7 provides Windows Media Player 7 which very good (and free). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;652075 Wrote: thats the point of the bug/req! to create a fifth spot, homecomps. and this fifth spot would contain ONLY those things that SBS positively classified as a comp, either via explicit tags or scanner logic.I am looking at it from the point of view of the CLI and probably the database structure, whereas you are talking about the user interface... In the current model you can issue the following CLI requests, and they will respond with the respective list of all albums, artists, genres, years etc. But currently there is no CLI query that could cover any other kind container such as compilations. Code: albums 0 999 artists 0 999 genres 0 999 years 0 999 If someone could be persuaded to extend the CLI interface then they should probably add a containers command that would work as follows: Code: containers 0 999 ...returns the following response containers 0 999 id=1234 title=Compilations count=1 Such a containers command would be open ended and allow construction of other kinds of containers than Compilations. However in the first instance the containers 0 999 request would only return one such container having the title Compilations. With such a CLI request added, you could then step down the browse tree using the existing standard CLI request filtering logic: Code: containers 0 999 == returns the following response containers 0 999 id=1234 title=Compilations count=1 ...then... albums 0 999 container_id:1234 == returns all ALBUMS in Compilations ...or... artists 0 999 container_id:1234 == returns all ARTISTS in Compilations ...or... tracks 0 999 container_id:1234 == returns all TRACKS in Compilations etc. I think such an extension would address the underlying database and CLI changes that would be needed to support what you are asking to see in the UI. However, the above proposal is (IMHO) not the same proposal as your bugs. As I said before your bugs are asking for a UI change, whereas I am talking about a database architecture and query structure extension... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Philip Meyer;652202 Wrote: So if there's no CLI support for browsing compilations, and no specific way to see the compilation list within Whitebear, it's not the end of the world - the albums could still be found in the same way.Look don't get me wrong. I am NOT asking for this. Whitebear does not need it. However MrSinatra is being so vehement about him needing it, that I am simply proposing a properly architected data structure and query backend that would give him what he wants. (Of course if you want to just kludge the UI, then that is fine with me, since the Bear does not use the UI anyhow...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;651153 Wrote: if 15604 were implemented, comps would show up in a new proposed homecomps, AND in existing home all the other stuff ...but what would be different is that under homeartists or homealbums, etc, comps would be listed only under their album.contributor value (or something like that) and without regard to whether they were actually comps or not.The problem is that SBS only has 4 kinds of entity container (albums, artists, genres, years); and compilations do not exist as an own entity/container (probably rightly because there would only be one such); the SBS solution is to mongrelize compililations as a kind of zombie artist -- which is undoubtedly an abomination. But the only problem is that if you would de-mongrelize VA/compilations from being a zombie artist then you would have to re-mongrelize it as something else... -- If it is no longer a zombie artist, then it must become a zombie album, or a zombie genre, which frankly would be equally ghastly... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;650611 Wrote: i don't know much about CLI, but you see two Various Artists entries and they conflict with each other. this is b/c there are entries that are sourced by actual tags, and a category of the same name. in bug 15604, Phil is advocating pulling things SBS thinks are comps out of the artists and albums etc lists, and making them their own homecomps category, which i fully support.Point understood, and agreed. MrSinatra;650611 Wrote: i think that would make your CLI queries much more straight forward.Not really. The UPnP Content Directory is essentially just another remote representation of the SBS browsing tree (albeit delivered via UPnP+SOAP+XML rather than via Browser+HTML) = What You See (in the SBS UI) Is What You Get (in the Whitebear Content Directory). My mistake was in assuming that all artist titles would be separate unique texts, so I was counting the number of unique texts rather than the total number of entries in the browsing tree; once I adjusted the code to count entries rather than unque texts, I have no problem any more... MrSinatra;650611 Wrote: ... its only useful if a user knows the issue exists, and then knows thats a way around it. obviously, most users know neither.Fully agreed. My working assumption is that the user will NOT have implemented this... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrSinatra;650433 Wrote: Andrew and everyone else reading this thread, PLEASE vote for these bugs!Hi MrSinatra, I looked at all your three bugs reports, and whilst I can confirm that the all relate to Various Artists in the broadest way I have to say that they do not specifically relate to the issue I mentioned. Therefore since I have not actually encountered the specific issues you refer to, I did not feel qualified to vote for them. Also insofar as the latest versions of SBS do allow you to customise the name of Various Artists to any other text, I have the impression that at least one of the bugs may have been quietly resolved (or??) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Philip Meyer;649924 Wrote: I think searching for artists matching empty string, will return all artists, but without the initial Various Artists entry. i.e. artists 0 1 search: I tried this with the following results: artists 0 1 = returns Various Artists and all tagged artist names, but NOT the names of Composers etc. artists 0 1 search: = does NOT return Various Artists, but does return and all tagged artist names, plus also the names of all Composers etc. Interesting... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Ap15e;649582 Wrote: Albums *Artists Genres *Years Play lists Favorites Folders Items marked with * don't work. Error messages: Can't read the media directory on ... Invalid device response with: Connection to ...:31416 refused or List index out of bounds (261). (UPnP Error U0501). I had some offline discussions with Ap15e and with his kind help we discovered that the problem is because when Whitbear issues a query to Squeezebox Server CLI with artists 0 300 the latter returns the entry id%3A3123 artist%3AVarious%20Artists two times in its response. In the case of Ap15e he has 262 artist entries in his artist database so Whitebear thinks it must pass on 262 items to the Android UPnP control point. But since Various Artists is a duplicate, the second copy gets eliminated, and so there are finally only 261 items in the list. This explains why Ap15e sees the error when Whitebear trips over the no longer existent index 261 entry... It is a mystery to me why the Squeezebox Server CLI makes a duplicate of Various Artists. Perhaps it is because Ap15e has an actual artist called Various Artists, and he also has compilation albums that Squeezebox Server names as by Various Artists, and therefore perhaps Squeezebox Server is not clever enough to know that these two are in fact the same name ??? = This is clearly a bug in Squeezebox Server. However, now that I know about it, I can modify Whitebear to work around this problem. I am guessing the problem with the years folder is due to a similar duplication. (Perhaps this time between the explicit year 0 and the implicit no year = 0 ...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Ap15e;649582 Wrote: Items marked with * don't work. Error messages: Can't read the media directory on ... Invalid device response with: Connection to ...:31416 refused or List index out of bounds (261). (UPnP Error U0501). Edit: Same problem with Android smartphone running Android 2.3In the Whitebear tray icon application, please select the Debug Logging page, select logging on the HTTP Server, then please try to connect your Android device, and send me the respective log file. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
tamanaco;649201 Wrote: I just needed to wait a few moments for the Revue to finish indexing the specific folder. ... So, the lesson I learned here is that with large libraries you need to give the Revue a few moments to catch up.The UPnP Media Server ContentDirectory service defines two actions called Browse() and Search(). Many client applications ignore the Search action and instead use only the Browse action to download a local image of the remote content directory into a local database, and then they use their own search algoritms to find things within that local image database. From your description, it sounds like the Revue is doing just this... The benefit is that once the local image is built, the searches can be faster and more sophisticated. The disadvantage is that it takes time to build the local image in the first place. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
tamanaco;648778 Wrote: The one problem I ran across, so far, is that using the Revue keyboard Im not able to narrow down the search within a folders as I enter letters on the keyboard. It narrows the search for some tracks and folders, but for some reason not for others.I don't have a Revue, but if you want to send me a log from Whitebear of such a search session, I am willing to have a look and see if there is something I could fix. (On Whitebear's tray monitor, turn on the logging of the HTTP server...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
MrC;648086 Wrote: I suppose the SBS fix for this would have to wait for 7.7/LMS or beyond (the UPnP plug-in has been removed in 7.6).There are two different things: 1) The UPnP Client functionality. This has been in SBS for quite some time (although as we just found, the functionality is not great) and I doubt it would have been removed from 7.6. 2) The UPnP Server functionality. This is the new beta functionality that would eventually replace Whitebear. This is what was pulled from the 7.6 release. But don't worry, the Whitebear is still around (and getting better all the time), so he will fill the gap until such time as 7.7 comes (and perhaps even longer -- who knows...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;647911 Wrote: I'll try it!Just an update about what vortecjr and I discovered is going wrong: The UPnP media server (in this case Whitebear on the first machine) offers each track in several formats. And the UPnP client (in this case SBS on the second machine) should select whichever of the formats it can play best. Now Whitebear is offering PCM, MP3 and FLAC. And apparently SBS is choosing the PCM offer. This is a pretty stoopid choice since in fact it cannot play PCM!! It shoul have chosen either the FLAC or the MP3 offer... This is a bug in SBS that needs to be fixed in due course. (Either by supporting playing of PCM streams, or by not choosing PCM from the Content Directory's offers...) Fortunately I can quickly make a workaround in Whitebear to fix this. Expect it in the next Whitebear release in about ten days. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;647634 Wrote: On my second machine that is running Squeeze Box Server I enabled it to see upnp services. Then when I go to My Music in Squeeze Box Server one of the options is Whitebear. Whitebear is running on the first machine and I can select it and browse files and play mps files.A-ha. That is a combination I never contemplated. Try running the current beta version of Whitebear on http://www.whitebear.ch/downloads/test.zip and let me know the outcome. (There will be a new official release in about ten days, so any feedback you can give will help improve that version). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Also, I wonder if you can explain what you meant by the following: vortecjr;646751 Wrote: I can see Whitebear come up in SBS ... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
vortecjr;646751 Wrote: I can see Whitebear come up in SBS and I can browse the library. However, when I press to play something it trys to start and then stops and never produces any sound. Any tips on making it play?What software or hardware are you using to browse the library? And what software or hardware are you trying to play to? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;644253 Wrote: Who knows, maybe the latest SBS update fixed something? I'll keep looking and send you a log if it breaks again.Ok. It works fine for me on the 7.6.0 release version (with no third party add-ins). I did not even bother testing any of the 7.6 betas. )lease keep me posted if you have any more issues. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Release 7.6
From the release notes, it seems that the UPnP features did not make the cut. Is that correct? Note that I am not at all upset 'cos Whitebear still rules. Ok -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89016 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;642803 Wrote: I've never changed the CLI port, so I presume it is 9090If you have a TTYp client (such as PUTTY) you could try connecting to the CLI 127.0.0.1:9090 and see if it connects. Wigster;642803 Wrote: iPeng works on my iPhone ok, but I can't find what it is using as the port.To be honest, I don't even know if iPeng uses the CLI. I suspect it may not... Wigster;642803 Wrote: The really strange thing that has happened a couple of times is that when I start SBS, actually sees the CLI interface correctly. Then, when I try to play anything, SBS actually crashes, and upon restarting is back in this non-functioning state.I suspect a misbehaving plug-in. Which ones are you using? Note: when a UPnP client asks Whitebear to enumerate the branches and contents of the content directory, then Whitebear uses the CLI to do this. As well as enumerating the regular Albums, Artists, Genres trees, it also enumerates Podcasts, Apps and Radios; and the latter also enumerates within specific radio plug-ins. So if a plug-in faults on such a browse request from Whitebear, I suppose that if it has inadequate exception handling, it could bring down the whole SBS server application. -- But I think it is fair to say that in such a case, the blame should be laid on the plug-in and not on Whitebear... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;642609 Wrote: .. the connection to the CLI interface is not functioningOn the Whitebear Settings tab, check that the Squeezebox Server CLI port is correct. The default is 9090, but if you have changed Squeezebox Server to use another port, then you need to adjust the Whitebear Settings to match... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
skind56;639719 Wrote: The latest Humax software release 1.02.20, released on the 5th July, seems to have fixed the flac problem as I can now play flacs on my Humax via Whitebear.Great news!! Can you please tell me if it is playing native FLACs (in which case the new Humax version is a major upgrade), or whether you have Whitebear set up to transcode them to MP3 (in which case the version is perhaps more of a bug fix...) ??? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635241 Wrote: Smaller file on its way - the first was too big and was rejected by your email system.Thanks. Go it. PasTim;635241 Wrote: I attach a log playing this track. You'll see it zipped through the 1st track (without playing it) and started on the next one in the folder.But no UUUs this time... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635123 Wrote: I could use the commercial email address for feedback if that suits. Let me know.Yes. That would be fine thanks. PasTim;635123 Wrote: I do notice that the content range in the last flac log looks very strange and there are errors Requested Range Not Satisfiable and Range: bytes=0-1 looks weird, but then I don't know the protocol.It is my theory that these HTTP Range requests are the root of the problem with the Humax. They are certainly very unusual, and I have encountered no other player that makes such. As you notice, before starting a transaction, it does a HTTP HEAD Range: bytes=0-0 request (read the response headers corresponding to a GET of one byte); and if that fails, it does a HTTP GET Range: bytes=0-1 (actual read of two bytes). The release version of Whitebear accepts such range requests when transcoding music because it CAN deliver these first one or two bytes. However in the test version I sent you, I decided to see what would happen if Whitebear would reject such range requests (416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable) because, even if it can deliver the first 1 or 2 bytes, it would later be in a pickle if asked to deliver the NEXT one or two bytes. This is because when transcoding via flac.exe and lame.exe you can never be exactly sure of the time offset in the input file that would be needed in order to deliver a coresponding byte offset in the output stream. Not to mention that mp3 streams deliver data in samples that are always larger than one or two bytes. By the way, the reason it works with the Humax when playing native mp3 files is that, since the server has the actual mp3 file in its hands, it CAN deliver exactly any range of bytes requested. Unlike the case when double transcoding where the server has to make guesses on the fly. Frankly, I am not sure WHY the Humax is doing these fancy HEAD or GET Range requests. I suppose it is trying to determine the full length of the stream from the response Content-Range header before it actually launches the full download of the music the stream using a proper full blown GET. As an aside, for example Windows Media Player, also always does two full blown GETs, of which the first one is immediately aborted; so the Humax is not alone in behaving oddly... Of course we still have the other theory about the UUUs in the mp3 file too... So, in my next test build, I shall do two things: 1) revert to accepting these odd Range requests, so that the response Content-Range header is delivered properly, and 2) capture the delivered stream in parallel to a disk file, so that you can then later test if the disk file plays as a native file on the Humax (UUUs and all). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635075 Wrote: If it's not data, could it be timing? If the transcoding takes a bit of time to kick off maybe the Humax gives up?Its an idea. I notice that in your log files the transcoded mp3 music files start with LAME3.98.4 followed by many UUU's. I don't know the details of the insides of mp3 files, but so much non information makes me think that lame.exe is coding -- well -- nothing. And that perhaps your Humax doesn't like nothing as an input. The oddity is that when I simulate transcoding some of my files to mp3 using lame.exe, I do NOT see all those UUU's. So perhaps there is something special in your source files? Probably you ripped them with different software than me? Or whatever? (Is this starting to sound like an episode of Dr House???) = Anyway can you therefore please send me one of your source files, for me to test further. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear IP Address detection
ChrisD;634439 Wrote: When I look at Whitebear's status screen I notice that for both Whitebear and Squeezebox server it uses 169.254.252.135 which does not agree with my SBS's address 192.168.0.11(255.255.255.0) nor is it in the scope of my LAN. Given the fact that even without any active firewalls within my LAN the situation does not change, I assume that the problem is connected with the IP address chosen by Whitebear.An IP address of 169.x.y.z usually indicates that your computer selected an IP address using the Windows Auto IP function; this function kicks in after the computer fails to get an IP address in the normal way from the network's DHCP server. = Check your DHCP server (it is usually on a router or a cable modem), and the reboot everything. Also check in Windows network settings that it is set to use DHCP... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88099 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
AndrewFG;634221 Wrote: ... This could be either 1) because (it thinks) the content itself is mangled, or 2) because (it thinks) the protocol response contains something unexpected. -- I am going to test 1) with you first.Hi PasTim, In my test rig I simulated a music request from your Humax to Whitebear; and attached is a file with the output from Whitebear's transcoder. Please see if your Humax can play the file. +---+ |Filename: 320kbps.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11947| +---+ -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;634985 Wrote: Works fine. 6 seconds-worth.Ok. That rules out a transcoder problem. So presumably there is something about the HTTP headers sent by Whitebear, that your Humax does not like. I will make a new test build of Whitebear and PM you with a link where you can get it. Thank you for your help in solving this issue. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;635010 Wrote: Here's a log of a flac being played (and failing). It starts when I am viewing a list of flacs and select one to play. I cancelled playing after a few seconds to keep the size down I also attach the first bit of the log of the same system playing the mp3 you sent me.Thank you. I can see that something different is happening than before; but apparently it is not succesful either. -- I will have a think about this... PasTim;635010 Wrote: I could not see a way to attach these in a PM - am I missing something?No I don't think you are missing anything. It is strange isn't it... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Whitebear Media Server DMS Menu Query
Radiccio;633980 Wrote: Im using Whitebear Media Server DMS to access music from my Squeezebox server on my Roberts Stream 202 radio via UPnP. It works well and Im very happy with it - the only problem I have is that when I select Genre from the menu on my radio and select a particular genre, I get a list of albums rather than a list of artists as I would on a Squeezebox player. Is there any way I can change this?That is just the way I designed it. There is not much standardisation about the right way or wrong way to design a browse tree structure. Indeed the only guidance is a document from Microsoft about harmonising the user experience on Windows. So I followed that. Currently there is no way to make Whitebear do it otherwise. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88050 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633970 Wrote: I would have thought that presenting the Humax with an mp3 file on a stick is probably going to work anywayMy hypothesis is that when Whitebear is asked to produce a transcoded Mp3 file as a result of Range request, it may be producing a truncated Mp3 or one with something odd in it, that perhaps the Humax does not like. (But this is admittedly only a hypothesis...) Also you mentioned that the Humax had the same Http Range issue with foobar's foo_upnp plug in (I read your posts today on hydrogenaudio). However it was not evident if bubbleguum was able to solve the issue or not. Did he solve it? And if so, do you have any information from him what he needed to change in foo_upnp to fix it? -- I hope to benefit from his learning curve... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;634171 Wrote: My own hypothesis, based on almost nothing, is that whatever is expected to control the speed of delivery of data isn't functioning at all. Thus a 4 minute track is sent and ignored within 10-20 seconds. I assume there is a protocol governing such stuff, but I've no idea what it is and why it is failing (and you don't need to waste your time telling me unless you really want to!).Well actually the protocol and flow control (HTTP request followed by HTTP response) are working fine. And a track (or something that looks like one) is certainly being sent. The problem is that the Humax does not seem to like what it is getting, and abandons the download after a few seconds, and tries the next track. This could be either 1) because (it thinks) the content itself is mangled, or 2) because (it thinks) the protocol response contains something unexpected. -- I am going to test 1) with you first. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPad UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controller Apps
iliketechnology;634186 Wrote: Do you use plugplayer? Are you able to See Cover Art?Yes. And yes. iliketechnology;634186 Wrote: Which Logs should Be switched on in Whitebear?Turn on Http server logging and CLI logging in Whitebear, and send me a capture when PlugPlayer is browsing the music tree. That will tell me if SC is providing any albumArt urls, and whether they are being passed on by Whitebear. If it is, and they are, then the problem is between PlugPlayer and SC, since Whitebear is not involved in the actual art transfer. (Whitebear makes the introductions, but the actual transfer goes direct between SC server and the control point). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87673 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633827 Wrote: That's why I wondered about whether the SB FIle Types set-up had anything to do with the transcoding. I don't know whether Whitebear or SB is being asked to execute the transcoding, and so don't know where the problem might lie.Whitebear does the transcoding using SC's transcoder helper applications. To transcode to MP3 you need lame.exe installed. (Check Whitebear's tray monitor transcoder page to see if it is). Lame.exe is a 3rd party application that for some reason SC is not allowed to ship as part of its installation bundle. So you need to download it and install it yourself. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633892 Wrote: Lame is already installed (the transcoder page shows it is there). However, I did notice flac.exe running very briefly under whitebear.exe. I don't know why.It is a two step process: first flac.exe transcodes from flac to raw pcm, then lame.exe transcodes it from raw pcm to mp3... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633919 Wrote: A log is attached. It seems that the track is sent in a flash and then moves on to the next one. I cut most of the data of the 1st track out (to keep the log short), and the ended the log after it started to send the 2nd track.Perfect! Thank you. If you are interested to know what is going on: the player makes an HTTP HEAD followed by an HTTP GET request for the stream, both having an HTTP RANGE header in the request. And Whitebear returns an HTTP 206 Partial Content response. RANGE requests and Partial responses enable server based seeking within the stream. The problem with server based seeking is that when transcoding on the fly (especially when doing multi step flac-pcm-mp3 trancoding), the server doesn't know exactly where it is in the stream, nor can it calculate the full length of the stream; and if the data is even one byte off, the resulting output is garbage. = I expect this is what is going on here. However I think I can fix this. Give me a few days and I will get back to you on this thread. In the worst case, the solution might require sacrificing server based seek on such transcoded files... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633930 Wrote: Please don't bust a gut for this. If I am the only one with this problem then I leave it to you to decide if it is worth the effort.The issue definitely needs to be (and will be) fixed. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633935 Wrote: In that case I'll be more than happy to be your Alpha/Beta/... tester.I'm mighty glad you said that!! Since I don't have a Humax player, and since indeed I don't have any other player that uses HTTP Range requests for server side seeking, I am going to have to slice the testing into pieces and bounce each slice off you. The steps would be the following: 1) I cheat my test rig so that one of my players gets disguised to look like your Humax (i.e. sending the HTTP headers from the log you sent me already), and I intercept the resulting transcoded mp3 stream output to a file. 2) I then send you the mp3 disk file, and ask you to test if it plays (via a usb stick or cd-rom) on your player. Does that sound do-able? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
PasTim;633750 Wrote: As far as I can tell the Humax only understands MP3s.Indeed. As has been noted before, the Humax is completely non compliant to the UPnP and DLNA specifications. In the Whitebear Tray Monitor, select Settings | Client Compatibilty Settings.. | select the Humax in the dropdown | Change.. | check the two Declare Mp3 before boxes | Ok | Save. If the Humax is really intransigent, then try also the two Do not declare options and/or the two Exclude options. (Probably the last two options will not make any difference). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPad UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controller Apps
iliketechnology;633595 Wrote: As they don't display your server I don't know how to connect the client. None of my client's despite PP as Controller finds your server, therefor I cannot try to connect from client side. Maybe whitebear doesn't use standard port.When you turn on your client, it starts a Discovery process for DMCs and DMRs. If the client doesn't show Whitebear then something is going wrong during this Discovery process. If you can send me a log taken by Whitebear during this discovery process, then I may be able to figure out what is going wrong. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87673 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
I just posted an update with added support for browising of SC Favorites. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPad UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controller Apps
iliketechnology;633595 Wrote: Well I don't see a setting like this.Open up the iPad Settings app; there you will see an entry fro PlugPlayer; and in there you will see two sliders for art -- turn them on. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87673 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
widman;633520 Wrote: -Is this feasible? -Will I have full control over the SB3s through Gizmo2? -Will this setup keep the players in sync? To 1: Yes, To 2: Yes, To 3: No (UPNP has no mechanism for synching players) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPad UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controller Apps
Many thanks for your feedback. iliketechnology;632685 Wrote: So far Plugplayer works . It seems like whitebear does not support Coverart with plugplayer.Hmmm. Whitebear does not really do very much itself concerning coverart; it just passes on to PlugPlayer the url on the SqueezeCenter server where the coverart can be found; and then PlugPlayer itself (should) connect directly to SC and download the art. = So I wonder if perhaps there is some kind of firewall problem that prevents PlugPlayer from connecting to SC? (Just an idea...) Or maybe PlugPlayer has a settings to allow/disallow downloading of coverart?? iliketechnology;632685 Wrote: If I select flac title in DMC plugplayer, Whitebear transcodes the flac to PCM, also DMR supports flac ???Are you playing the music on the iPad? Whitebear basically offers to the player a list of all music formats that it can deliver; and then the player/client chooses from the list whichever one it prefers. Normally Whitebear offers PCM first in its list (because PCM is the only must offer format) and so very often the player/client just chooses the first offer. = If you want, you could try changing the Whitebear Settings for the PlugPlayer client: try changing some of its Offer XX before YY options... iliketechnology;632685 Wrote: Yamaha App and Songbook Upnp don't even detect your Whitebear server. Don't know why.Interesting. Could you please post me log from Whitebear showing what happens when you try to connect with these clients? (In the Whitebear logging options, you should check SSDP (both boxes) M-SEARCH and HTTP Server checkboxes). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87673 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Henry66;632465 Wrote: right-most tab in the UI is titled Degug logging. :)Ah. So it is. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
mark-e-mark;631152 Wrote: I wonder if it's possible to expose the squeezebox favorites list to players? This would allow me switch radio stations (I have Pandora stations in my favorites) from my remote.I have just now created a new beta version of Whitebear that exposes the Favorites. However, I encountered difficulties with Favorites that refer to remote radio or podcast urls. It seems that sometimes a remote radio or podcast url is a direct link to a music stream, but sometimes the remote url is an INDIRECT link to a playlist file (.pls or .m3u format) which is a text file that contains a text list of one or more urls pointing to real music streams. Now unfortunately, many existing UPnP / DLNA players do not really support such playlist text files. So the conclusion is: Yes, I could include Favorites in a next version of Whitebear, but unfortunately No, it would not support the indirect playlist variety (.pls or .m3u) of remote radio or podcast streams; only the direct url (.mp3, .ogg, .wav, .flc) variety is supportable. I don't know if this is sufficent? = What do you think? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Henry66;632313 Wrote: Firewall on the server or the client or both?Perhaps both. Sorry not to be more helpful... Henry66;632313 Wrote: How do I check access to server port 31416 from a client?It is a bit kludgy, but try the following: On the computer where you can see Whitebear, open up My Network Places, you should see Xyz by Whitebear, click on this object, and it will open a web page whose url is something like http://192.168.1.1:31416/12345678-1234-1234-1234-123456789abc/presentation.html, copy that Url and try the same url in the browser from another machine on your network; see what happens and/or what kind of error message is reported... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Henry66;632428 Wrote: ... and now all is working fine!Glad to hear it! -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Henry66;632097 Wrote: I installed this as a service on Windows 7 64-bit. I can see the by Whitebear library from WMP on the same machine. However, I am unable to see it from other PCs on the local net. All PCs are running Windows 7 (two 64-bit and two 32-bit). When I run Foobar2000 (an application, not a service) on the same machine as Whitebear/SBS, then all the other PCs can see the Foobar2000 library. Not sure where/how to start trouble-shooting?My first reaction is that it may be a firewall issue. Check that the other PCs are able access the Whitebear server port 31416 -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;631439 Wrote: It started when I upgraded to the latest 7.6 beta r32413 and seems to be intermitted, i.e. sometimes things do work ok.What shall I say?? Go back to the stable release that did work properly?? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;631458 Wrote: SBS does not seem to scrobble the tracks played through WB to last.fm.I guess that your plug in only scrobbles tracks that are commanded to play via one of the UIs. I would not be surprised if the plug in would not be mnitoring tracks played via the SBS CLI interface (since this is not a UI). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
mark-e-mark;631602 Wrote: I think I asked the wrong question, and I'll be the first to tell you I have only a vague understanding of the control points and paradigm. Here's what I would like to do: How can I browse my favorites from the Android UPnP remote? I will look for the Add-Ins browse menu tree in the Media server to see if I can tell that it's exposing my favorites to remotes.Oops! Sorry but I mislead you with my prior message. I was just looking at the code again, and I am sorry to say that Whitebear does NOT support Favorites. At least not yet. I had in fact started to write code for this function, but I gave up on it since it was too difficult... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPad UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controller Apps
pippin;631372 Wrote: PlugPlayer.It seems pretty buggy to me. Or am I missing something? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87673 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPad UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controller Apps
pippin;631886 Wrote: It's the only serious one around. Yet ;)I also saw the following apps (but did not try them): Dixim DMC Songbook UPnP media:connect Any comments on those? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87673 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
mark-e-mark;631152 Wrote: I wonder if it's possible to expose the squeezebox favorites list to players? Whitebear does already support the Favorites folder (under the Add-Ins browse menu tree). However it (obviously) only supports this on UPnP Control Points that follow the UPnP Browse paradigm. By contrast on Control Points that support the UPnP Search paradigm, the favorites folder cannot be offerred,since otherwise tracks may be shown duplicated in the database... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
indifference_engine;630083 Wrote: When I modify the client compatibility settings to suit my Nokia phoen I get some weird stuff going on. When I hit save I get the device replicated four times in the drop-down so it looke like this: Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 ;;;Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 ;;Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 ;Nokia DLNADOC/1.50 UPnP/1.0 The beta version that you sent by pm didn't do this and worked with my phone, this one doesn't work with my phone even if I modify the settings of each of the replicates. Bug somewhere??Hi indifference_engine, Sorry for this. I worked out what is going wrong here. And I will post a minor update for this later today... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;630285 Wrote: 1) I've noticed that when a file has an apostrophe in the filename, it appears in the playlist of the web interface with apos instead of the '. It appears correctly in the now playing bit and the info panel on the left.This is now fixed (hopefully) in the current update... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] iPad UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controller Apps
Hi, I am the author of Whitebear Media Server. So far I have been refining Whitebear by testing its interworking with Windows based UPnP/DLNA Digital Media Controllers. But now that I have an iPad myself :-) I want to expand the pro-active development of Whitebear to also optimise its interworking with the most popular iPad UPnP/DLNA DMCs. So my question is: Which is/are the most popular (respectively the best) iPad UPnP/DLNA DMC apps ? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87673 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
indifference_engine;630083 Wrote: Bug somewhere??Yes :-( -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;630062 Wrote: It doesn't work at all if the file is not on the server, but is physically located on the laptop. I *think* this was the same situation as with the previous version. It works neither with MP3 not FLAC.Sorry but I don't really understand what you mean here. Whitebear plays files in several modes; can you please clarify which of the following applies in your case? 1) Native Libaray / Native Player: In WMP 12 (say) you browse the Squeeze Center library YourLibraryName (by Whitebear) - you select a track and select Play To SqueezeboxName (by Whitebear) - the respective track should play on the respective Squeezebox. This is the most seamless mode. 2) Native Libaray / Other Local Player: In WMP 12 (say) you browse the Squeeze Center library YourLibraryName (by Whitebear) - you select a track and select Play - the respective track should play on WMP. There are two sub-sets of this: 2a) where the source and destination have the same format (no transcoding) 2b) where the source and destination do not have the same format (transcoding done by Whitebear) 3) Native Libaray / Other UPnP Player: In WMP 12 (say) you browse the Squeeze Center library YourLibraryName (by Whitebear) - you select a track and select Play To Some_Other_UPnP_Player - the respective track should play on Some_Other_UPnP_Player. 4) Other Libaray / Native Player: In WMP 12 you browse the WMP library. You select a track and select Play To SqueezeboxName (by Whitebear) - the respective track should play on the respective Squeezebox. There are two sub-sets of this: 4a) playing an MP3 file 4b) playing a lossless file 5) For completeness, please note that there is one other option Other Libaray / Other Player but this is irrelevant since Whitebear is not involved in any way... Please also note that in the case of 4b) above, the behaviour may depend on the file format. If the file is a format supported natively by WMP 12 it works fine. Whereas if it is a format (like flac) where you need an add-in filter for WMP to support it, then it depends on the filter you have installed. In my testing, I found that some filters only support flac streams coming into WMP, but do not support flac streams going out of WMP. Personally I found that the flac filter from XIPH.ORG was excellent. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;630062 Wrote: And below is what SBS outputs when I double click on a file local to the laptop in the Play To controller in WMP12. The file appears in the SBS playlist as it should, it just doesn't play. The Squeezebox screen says connecting and then stopped The log actually indicates that Whitebear is doing everything that it should be doing. Namely, the following steps are ocurring: 1) WMP Play To command sends the UPnP SetAvTransportUri to Whitebear, passing CurrentUri url_shown_below 2) Whitebear translates this command to SqueezeCenter CLI language and forwards it as player_mac_address playlist add url_shown_below 3) The Squeeze player log indicates that has recieved the request and that it is loading up this file to play http://192.168.1.5:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0IzNTI4NDNDLTM0REMtNDQ1QS1CMkM4LUE3Q0M2MTBGQUIyNH0uMC40.mp3 So, if the Squeezebox is really not playing the file, then actually it is not Whitebear's fault! You could test this by using the SC UI to manually try to connect to the above mentioned remote url stream and see what happens. You won't see anything in the Whitebear logs, since it has already done its part in telling SC and WMP to talk together. However you might want to try a Shark trace to see if WMP returns HTTP 200, HTTP 40x, or nothing at all. If it returns nothing at all, then you probably have a fire-wall issue... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;630208 Wrote: In scenario 4, there are problems, however. If I try to play files to the native player from the WMP-12 library but physically on BIG, they will play successfully, both MP3 and FLAC. However, if I try to play files from the WMP-12 library but which are on LAPTOP, they do not play. Does this make sense?Hmmm. First of all, it is definetely NOT Whitebear's fault... As you suggest, it sounds like a permissions issue. The UPnP/DLNA mechanisms do not have any security permission controls, so in theory they can be mis-used to bypass normal file security. Alice grants Bob access to her files; Bob is a UPnP server; Eve asks Bob -- via UPnP calls -- for one of Alice's files; Bob serves the file = Security breach !! Now it looks like WMP12 is in fact being very well behaved. (Hats off to Microsoft!) Because in this case, Bob does share public files (via UpnP) with Eve, but he blocks sharing Alice's private files with Eve. Conclusion: try moving the files on your laptop from Alice's folder to Public. Or try changing the permissions on Alice's folder to Share / Everybody (you have been warned!). Alternatively look into Windows settings for Sharing my Music and/or WMPs settings for Sharing my Music... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
Wigster;630285 Wrote: 1) I've noticed that when a file has an apostrophe in the filename, it appears in the playlist of the web interface with apos instead of the '. It appears correctly in the now playing bit and the info panel on the left.I suppose you mean the track title rather than the file name? Anyway I will have a look at this, and try to fix. 2) If I switch from controlling the Squeezebox through WMP-12, while leaving the control window open, and I play something else on the SB through the SBS web interface, when I actually do close the WMP-12 windows, the track will stop playing. I guess WMP sends out an off command when it quits, but in this case it's not the desired behaviour.Yes you may consider this to be a PITA but the approach of Whitebear is that it tries to obey all commands sent to it (including the playlist clear command when WMP closes) 3) It seems that in WB is launched while the Squeezebox is somehow disconnected from the server, the media renderer doesn't get set up. Then, then the SB connects back to the server, WB doesn't seem to react and set it up. It needs to be relaunched for this to take place. (Maybe I didn't wait long enough?)I don't have the code in front of me, but basically Whitebear has a number of heartbeat timers that periodically check if the library status changed, or if the player count changed, or if the server hit an unexpected error and needs a restart. These timers are random intervals up to 90 seconds, so if you are unlucky you might need to wait 3-4 minutes... PS a Shark capture refers to a program called WireShark which is THE toll of choice for capturing and logging TCP/IP traffic on a network... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Wigster;628593 Wrote: Will do! In anticipation, WigsterThe new version is now available for download!! -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear Media Server v2.1 Updated
A new version of Whitebear Media Server v2.1 has been released!! This version includes the following improvements: - Faster transcoding throughput. - Compatibility settings dialog added to allow customisation of behaviour with different control points. - Improved support for streaming PCM files. - Improved Play To of non native streams. - Usability improvements in the Task Tray monitor. - Improved client compatibility especially with J R Media Center. - Seek support improved for MP3 streams; and Seek support added for PCM streams. - General stability improvements. - The bug in which the server was automatically restarting after the user had stopped it, has been fixed. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87559 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Wigster;628259 Wrote: Aha: well, if you get some DirectShow codecs (such as the shark007 pack, for example), then it will play FLACs (as well as OGGs etc). Then you can also download something called WMP Tag Plus, which will actually allow it to support adding the FLACs to the library and get all the meta-data correctly.I couldn't get the Shark codecs for Flac support in WMP 12 (the server was down), so I tried the Xiph ones from here http://www.xiph.org/dshow/ With that codec installed, and running my not-yet-released new version of Whitebear, for Flac files I could do both Play on WMP 12, and Play To a Squeezebox. So please wait a few days until I formally release this updated version. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Wigster;627667 Wrote: I have tried both FLAC and MP3.WMP 12 does not support the FLAC format, so it would not be very surprising that neither the local Play nor the remote Play To functions would work. Or ?? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
Wigster;627410 Wrote: What *fails* is playing to the files located physically *on the laptop* directly to the Squeezebox. The server thinks it's playing for 5 second and then it stops.Thanks for the feedback. I am currently working on an update of Whitebear to try to improve in particular this non native play to functionality. Can you please tell me what is the media format of the files your are trying to play? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
indifference_engine;621752 Wrote: Thanks, I have sent you a pm with my reply!Interesting. Your earlier log proved that your WMP client is discovering the Whitebear media server and all players. And the current log shows that your client is 1) downloading the device description documents, 2) downloading the service control protocol documents, and 3) subscribing to all the service event handlers. So far so good. But about 2 seconds later it is unsubscribing again. Clearly it is finding something in the DDD or the SCPD that it does not like. I have read somewhere that perhaps some Microsoft clients (e.g. the XBox) will not accept a server whose DDD does not contain the word microsoft in it's name. (UPnP is an open standard so go figure that one out...) You could perhaps test this by changing the name of your library in SC to something including microsoft, and then doing a restart. An alternative possible reason is that the current DDD contains some extensions for DLNA and -- believe it or not -- for Microsoft, that are allowed according to the UPnP specs, but perhaps unexpected by the WMP client. So I will also prepare and send you some test versions that selectively eliminate these extensions one-by-one. That will hopefully allow us to get this thing working. (However, it may mean that other clients that expect those extensions will now not work...) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
indifference_engine;621278 Wrote: I have sent you a pm with my log fileThansk for the PM. It indicates that UPnP device discovery is working. So the problem must be at the next level up the stack (UPnP description or control). I sent you another PM concerning how to debug that... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
spectre101;621105 Wrote: ...players look and time out. In other words, I'm still in the same boat.Let me try to summarise your problem: - You have a music library in JRMC15 (say) - The library consists of native mp3 tracks - The library tracks are local to JRMC (as opposed to imported from Whitebear) - JRMC is set to never transcode - When you select such a track in JRMC and try to Play To a Squeezeplayer (by Whitebear) the track does not play Please confirm the above is a correct summary. Now a few questions: 1) When you do this Play To, do you see the new track url on the player UI? If the new new track url is shown, what happens when you now press Pause/Play on the player UI? 2) Try copying the same url above into Squeezebox web UI Radios; Tune into Url - What happens now? 3) Try manually copying the same url above into any other player different than JRMC (say Windows Media Player) - does the url play in that player? 4) What kind of A/V software are you running? Does it have any kind of smart firewall features? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
indifference_engine;621138 Wrote: Whitebear gets me very close. The only issues are that the library is not visible in Vista's wmp and that the phone's auto-sync feature doesn't work.Lets see if I can summarise it correctly. You have two problems: Problem 1) - You have Whitebear running on a PC running Windows 2003 - You have Squeezecenter running on the same PC - From your mobile phone, you can discover the Whitebear media server, and browse its content directory - From WMP11 running on a PC running Vista, you cannot discover the Whitebear media server Problem 2) - You have Whitebear running on a PC running Windows 2003 - You have Squeezecenter running on the same PC - From your mobile phone, you can discover the Whitebear media server, and browse its content directory - From your mobile phone, you can command a track from the Whitebear content directory to Play To a Squeezeplayer - From your mobile phone, you can command a track from the Whitebear content directory to Play on the mobile phone - From your mobile phone, you cannot download a track from the Whitebear content directory and save it on the phone Please confirm the above. Now some questions: 1) What is the format of the music track you are experimenting with? Is it mp3 or something else? indifference_engine;621138 Wrote: Is it possible to configure whitebear so that it is exposing the squeezeboxes as renderers but not sharing the library out?No. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
indifference_engine;621211 Wrote: correct. The whitebear server is visible in the network neighbourhood but the library is not visible within wmp on Vista. If I share my phone's library then that isn't visible in Vista either. A Tversitiy library is visible as is a wmp11 library (both from my 2003 server).Share viewing support must be enabled in WMP11. Click the little arrow under Library, then Media Sharing. Tick the box marked Find media that others are sharing then OK. If you don't see this option, then you are out of luck. If you do see it, and it is checked, but still not working, then you need to send me a Whitebear log as follows: - Close WMP on your client PC - In the Whitebear tray monitor select Degugg Logging | Check SSDP Listener and M-SEARCH Responses | Apply - Start WMP on your client PC - Send me the log file indifference_engine;621211 Wrote: .. the phone also has an autosync feature which doesn't work. The autosync is supposed to work by downloading the library's songlist to the phone. You can then browse the cached catalog while offline and create playlists. The phone then automatically downloads the tracks in the playlists when it connects to my wifi. I haven't managed to get the autosync feature working using any server. With whitebear as the server the phone cannot download the catalog, with wmp as the server the catalog is downloaded but the tracks are not, with TVersity as the server the library isn't even visible to the sync app (despite being manually browsable).Sorry to be blunt, but as you say youself, it seems your sync app is not working. indifference_engine;621211 Wrote: My Vista laptop (that does not show the whitebear library) is not listed in Whitebear's Client User Agent Header list.It wouldn't -- its not getting that far. indifference_engine;621211 Wrote: In order to get whitebear to work with the phone I had to use the test version and tick the first two compatibility options for the phone's user agent header. I have experimented with other combinations of options but haven't managed to resolve my issues.Try checking ALL this boxes; this dumbs down Whitebear's output to the absolute minimum; maybe your sync app could understand it then :-) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
spectre101;620926 Wrote: The problem starts when I try to stream anything from a server other than Whitebear Server.Firstly check you are using the latest version of Whitebear. And put aside for the time being all your points about ports etc. since they are probably irrelevant. Check what music format your client software is trying to send to the Squeezeplayer; is it pcm, or mp3 or some other format? The players can handle aac, mp3, flac and wma natively, and also wav and pcm via Whitebear's proxy transcoder. Most clients have settings whereby you can force them to deliver mp3 or pcm by transcoding the original music format; as a first step I suggest to set your client to force it to transcode to mp3; this is the lowest common denominator, and once you get it working with that, you can experiment with settings that delivery better quality audio. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
claytob;620715 Wrote: I didn't think there was a version on WMP12 for Vista.You are quite correct. I suppose that would explain why indifference_engine cannot see Whitebear in WMP12 running on his Vista machine !! -- but it is therefore rather quite odd that he claims to be able to see TVersity in WMP12 running on his Vista machine ?? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
claytob;620785 Wrote: Andrew, can't seem to get private messaging working so you either will have a load of messages from on none.I got five PMs from you. :-) You need to help me visualize what is (not) going on: What do you see on your XBox? Do you see anything at all? Can you at least see the library name, and not browse it? Or what? I think I will need some log files from you. In the Whitebear tray monitor, please turn on logging for SSDP Listener, M-Search Responses and Http Server; and then turn on your Xbox and do whatver you have been trying to do before. Then send me the log file. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
indifference_engine;620817 Wrote: Vista actually has a souped-up version of wmp11 that can act as both client and server (XP's wmp11 is server only, wmp12 is Win7 only and I don't know any more than that as I don't have a Win7 machine). More testing results: When I share my vista library I can see a whitebear squeezebox is available to share to, but only one of my many players is shown and it is different each time I go into the settings page, should all my squeezeboxes be shown? My shared Vista library is detected by my phone but is not browsable, it appears that the Vista server is having the same problems as the Vista client so my finger is definately pointing at Vista being the culprit. I shall follow your suggestion tonight and load Whitebear onto my vista machine and see if that is browsable via WMP on the same machine. I shall also re-load TVersity onto my server and see if it still works (been a while sinse I tested it). Now if only someone could write SqueezePlay for the wii then I'd be able to liberate an extra player for the dining room!!Sorry indifference_engine but you are wizzing around and talking about so many things at the same time, that I completely lost track of what you think is the problem and what you are trying to to do. = Can you please try to stay on one topic at at time, and please explain in plain steps what you are doing, what your are seeing, and what is your problem? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: Whitebear updated version
Wigster;620457 Wrote: Is it also possible to send to a Squeezebox a track that is in WMP's library but not in SBS? So say, I have some local music, I just want to listen to, using the Play To feature?Yes. Wigster;620457 Wrote: Also: I understand the the 7.6 beta has functionality that is similar. Is it going to supplant Whitebear?Who knows? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82399 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
indifference_engine;620503 Wrote: From a Vista laptop I can see the Whitebear server and the Squeezeboxes as renderers in my network neighbourhood but I cannot browse the Whitebear library from within Windows Media Player.That indicates that you don't have WMP12 set up properly. You need to turn on the media sharing features in WMP12 (sharing from other libraries to WMP, and sharing from WMP to other players). indifference_engine;620503 Wrote: From my mobile I cannot synchronise/download tracks from the library to my mobile.I don't understand what you mean by cannot synchronise/download? Do you mean you cannot play the tracks? or what? If so, it is probably because your mobile can only play mp3 files and not pcm files; in which case please read the PM I sent you, download the new version, and try its new client compatibility settings... -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
indifference_engine;620619 Wrote: Maybe there's a Vista/2003 compatibility issue, after all 2003 wasn't really designed for media sharing!I doubt that. If Whitebear/Win2003 can serve to your mobile client then there is no fundamental reason why it should not work with WMP as a client. I can assure you that in my case it DOES work with Whitebear/WinXP, Whitebear/Vista, Whitebear/Win7 serving to WMP12/Vista, WMP12/Win7 (see attached screenshot). You could do a test by installing briefly Whitebear on your Vista machine (no need to install an actual library), and see if WMP12 on the same machine can see it... indifference_engine;620619 Wrote: Once I ticked both of the 'Declare the mp3 resource before pcm' boxes and pressed save I could then stream from SBS to my mobile via whitebear and copy the tracks to my phone for playing offline! Happy, happy, happy! Now back to Vista...Happy too... +---+ |Filename: Untitled.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11579| +---+ -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announcement: Whitebear Media Server (UPnP/DLNA) v2.0 released !!
claytob;620136 Wrote: I see in a previous post you mentioned that XBOX 360 is very particular about what it communicates with, do you have any suggestions in things I could try to get this working?My problem is that I do not own an Xbox, so I cannot test it. In Whitebear I implemented all the special tweaks that other software writers had recommeneded as being necessary for XBox to see their own servers. But apparently that was not enough :-( In the next 1..2 days there is another build of Whitebear coming out, which allows additional customised settings for different media clients. I will send you a Private Message with link where you can download a pre-version, and perhaps you can test it and confirm if you see an improvement. -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of: 1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and, 2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
