Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Thursday 11 January 2007 20:04, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Michael Madigan wrote:
 Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to
 support the assasination of the president.
 I don't give a damn. I'm not subject to YOUR laws (lucky eh?).
 
 Hi Ricardo!
 
 Thank you for your candor. We will take this into consideration every time we 
 see anything from you from now on.

Hi, my dear Pete!

Ok. Please also take into consideration I live in a SOVEREIGN country,
and that I have a SOVEREIGN mind (I think and express myself in whatever
manner I think is correct).

BTW, 'we' will also take into consideration that you would FORCE us into
your ways if you had the power (which you don't).


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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Thursday 11 January 2007 18:37, Michael Madigan wrote:
 Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to
 support the assasination of the president.
 
 Hi Michael!
 
 He is in some foreign coward's haven, safe from justice, I'm afraid.
 

Hi Curly!

If you ever come around this 'coward's haven' send me a few lines so we
may meet and talk about this interesting concept.
BTW, it's 'safe from US laws' (not justice).



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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Thursday 11 January 2007 18:26, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 
 Hi Ricardo!
 
 Spoken like a real foreign enemy.
 
 Let's suppose the subject is true Then for Christ's sake, let's find
 the new Wilkes Booth. ;c)
 

Hi Baldy!

It would be 'foreign' to you. To me, you are the foreigner.
AFAIK this list is international, so in here there are no foreigners.


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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 And I would consider it VERY POOR TASTE..
 Shows a total lack of class in my opinion. 
 

Hahaha!
The fact is we consider the US is hiding weapons of mass destruction,
and furthermore that the US president is a tyrant with a dangerous
behavior. So we'll probably invade the US (preventively, of course), and
then hang it's president. Do you think that would also show a lack of class?

 
 Virgil Bierschwale
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 http://www.bierschwale.com
 http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
 
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 Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to support the assasination
 of the president.
 
 
 
 --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Let's suppose the subject is true Then for Christ's sake, let's 
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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 And I would consider it VERY POOR TASTE..
 Shows a total lack of class in my opinion. 

 
 Hahaha!
 The fact is we consider the US is hiding weapons of mass destruction,
 and furthermore that the US president is a tyrant with a dangerous
 behavior. So we'll probably invade the US (preventively, of course), and
 then hang it's president. Do you think that would also show a lack of class?
 

Ooops! I was forgetting we will instruct our intelligence agency to
murder the governor of Malvinas (Falklands to you) because the island is
too near our coasts (kind of Cuba to the US). And we will also finance a
coup d'etat in Uruguay and will then instruct their military to torture
any opposition, after all we consider Uruguay our 'backyard'.

Classy enough?


 Virgil Bierschwale
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 http://www.tccutlery.com
 http://www.bierschwale.com
 http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com

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 Let's suppose the subject is true Then for Christ's sake, let's 
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RE: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Adam Buckland
That's real class, have a beef with the US and murder the British Governor of 
the Falkland Islands.

Didn't you have a go at the Falklands a quarter of a century ago and get your 
asses kicked then?

With the state of your economy could you fund a coup d'etat on anything larger 
than an iceberg?

::a
 

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Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 And I would consider it VERY POOR TASTE..
 Shows a total lack of class in my opinion. 

 
 Hahaha!
 The fact is we consider the US is hiding weapons of mass destruction,
 and furthermore that the US president is a tyrant with a dangerous
 behavior. So we'll probably invade the US (preventively, of course), and
 then hang it's president. Do you think that would also show a lack of class?
 

Ooops! I was forgetting we will instruct our intelligence agency to
murder the governor of Malvinas (Falklands to you) because the island is
too near our coasts (kind of Cuba to the US). And we will also finance a
coup d'etat in Uruguay and will then instruct their military to torture
any opposition, after all we consider Uruguay our 'backyard'.

Classy enough?


 Virgil Bierschwale
 http://www.virgilslist.com
 http://www.tccutlery.com
 http://www.bierschwale.com
 http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com

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 Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to support the assasination
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 --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's suppose the subject is true Then for Christ's sake, let's 
 find the new Wilkes Booth. ;c)


 



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[OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Adam Buckland
Yes, football the most popular game in the world.

Ed, do you think that Beckham and his fame and media exposure help US
football's growth?


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Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-12 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/12/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hal,

  This can easily be corrected by exposing more people to what
  we consider to be rare conditions.

 I believe the correction is more likely to come when doctors avail
 themselves of online medical information to a greater extent. Doctors are
 still memorizing everything and aren't researching answers like they should
 be. When they can break away from trusting only what they remember we will
 all benefit.

  Kristyne,

Part of the problem seems to be that Am. doctors specialise far too
early in their studies which prevents them from seeing the general
picture. Every Belgian doctor fe has studied for GP before he
specialises in his chosen field.
Just something i picked up from conversations with doctors ...so it
may be they were biased a little

A+
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RE: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Crozier
Adam,
It will certainly help Beckham's bank balance that's for sure. Even though
he is/was a great talent (believe me saying that about an ex Man. United
player coming from a Manchester City supporter is praise indeed), £70,000 or
$130,000 per DAY excluding any other income from endorsements is an obscene
amount of money by any standards.

He says that he hasn't done it for the money, so why didn't he do it for
free then?

Mind you, his wife will probably spend that amount easily.

Dave Crozier


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Yes, football the most popular game in the world.

Ed, do you think that Beckham and his fame and media exposure help US
football's growth?


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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

2007-01-12 Thread Peter Cushing
Ed Leafe wrote:
   Now the lawyers will duke it out. 
Not heard that expression before, so looked it up:

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/duke+it+out


You learn something new every day :-)

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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Adam Buckland wrote:
 That's real class, have a beef with the US and murder the British Governor 
 of the Falkland Islands.
 
 Didn't you have a go at the Falklands a quarter of a century ago and get your 
 asses kicked then?
 
 With the state of your economy could you fund a coup d'etat on anything 
 larger than an iceberg?
 
 ::a
  

Christ! Does anybody know the meaning of the word 'irony'???
Anybody

BTW, 8% growth for the last 5 years, we're not that bad.

 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz
 Sent: 12 January 2007 08:31
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?
 
 Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 And I would consider it VERY POOR TASTE..
 Shows a total lack of class in my opinion. 

 Hahaha!
 The fact is we consider the US is hiding weapons of mass destruction,
 and furthermore that the US president is a tyrant with a dangerous
 behavior. So we'll probably invade the US (preventively, of course), and
 then hang it's president. Do you think that would also show a lack of class?

 
 Ooops! I was forgetting we will instruct our intelligence agency to
 murder the governor of Malvinas (Falklands to you) because the island is
 too near our coasts (kind of Cuba to the US). And we will also finance a
 coup d'etat in Uruguay and will then instruct their military to torture
 any opposition, after all we consider Uruguay our 'backyard'.
 
 Classy enough?
 
 
 Virgil Bierschwale
 http://www.virgilslist.com
 http://www.tccutlery.com
 http://www.bierschwale.com
 http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com

 -Original Message-
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 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:38 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

 Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to support the assasination
 of the president.



 --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's suppose the subject is true Then for Christ's sake, let's 
 find the new Wilkes Booth. ;c)


 


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VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Allen Pollard
Hi Foxgang.
Seem to have a little problem running help files created with robohelp's
html help. Does not seem to work on new machines. Any ideas what is missing.
I assume it may be an ocx/dll or something.
TIA
Allen

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RE: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Crozier
Al,
What version of Robohelp and what O/S. If it is Vista then there is a known
problem as Vista doesn't support for native help files.
Also if you look at:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607

INTRODUCTION
Windows Help (WinHlp32.exe) is a help program that has been included with
Microsoft Windows versions starting with the Microsoft Windows 3.1 operating
system. WinHlp32.exe is required to display 32-bit help content files that
have the .hlp file name extension.

However, the Windows Help program has not had a major update for many
releases and no longer meets Microsoft standards. Therefore, starting with
the Microsoft Windows Vista and the Microsoft Windows Server Code Name
Longhorn operating system releases, the Windows Help program will not ship
as a component of Windows. Also, third-party programs that include .hlp
files are prohibited from redistributing the Windows Help program together
with their products. Users who want to view 32-bit .hlp files must download
the program from the Microsoft Download Center, and then install it on their
computers. The download for Windows Help is still in development. It will be
available in time for the consumer release of Windows Vista scheduled for
early 2007.

Hope this helps

Dave Crozier

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Hi Foxgang.
Seem to have a little problem running help files created with robohelp's
html help. Does not seem to work on new machines. Any ideas what is missing.
I assume it may be an ocx/dll or something.
TIA
Allen

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RE: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Allen
Its version 6, and old one. And the os is XP
Allen 

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Al,
What version of Robohelp and what O/S. If it is Vista then there is a known
problem as Vista doesn't support for native help files.
Also if you look at:

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Re: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Paul Hill
On 1/12/07, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Its version 6, and old one. And the os is XP
 Allen

Is the help file on a network drive?  Try copying it locally.

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RE: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Allen
Hi Paul
No it’s a local copy.
Allen 

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On 1/12/07, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Its version 6, and old one. And the os is XP
 Allen

Is the help file on a network drive?  Try copying it locally.

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RE: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Allen
Sorry, may have mislead. It’s a chm file and it works fine on my machine but
not another.
I have noted that ie7 does not seem to like my web version but I don’t care
about that.
Allen

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Al,
It could be something to do with the permissions in the Local Intranet
zone of IE? The security added after the IE7 update (or thereabouts) with IE
might be causing the error in the same way they specify Author not
Verified when running a program of a networked drive.

Have you tried loading the .html help file with Firefox? That would prove it
isn't IE that is at fault at least.

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RE: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Stephen the Cook
Dave Crozier  wrote:
 Adam,
 It will certainly help Beckham's bank balance that's for sure. Even
 though he is/was a great talent (believe me saying that about an ex
 Man. United player coming from a Manchester City supporter is praise
 indeed), £70,000 or $130,000 per DAY excluding any other income from
 endorsements is an obscene amount of money by any standards.
 
 He says that he hasn't done it for the money, so why didn't he do it
 for free then? 

Shaquille O'Neal did the move to LA for movies I thought.  


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RE: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Stephen the Cook
Adam Buckland  wrote:
 Yes, football the most popular game in the world.
 
 Ed, do you think that Beckham and his fame and media exposure help US
 football's growth? 

No.  It can't get the air time in TV here because we need commercials every
12 min or the network  will go broke.  There is a huge cash flow from TV to
the sports team, to pay those ridiculous salaries.  

I'd like to see it make a growth into the sports market here, but the people
who control the direction can't seem to make $$$ doing it using the same
plan that is in effect for Baseball, Basketball and US-Football. 

For US Football games in person you will see that little prick with the red
hat on holding up the game so the f'n station can run a commercial series.
When a team has a rhythm going this can wreck it, IMO.

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Re: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:10 AM, Adam Buckland wrote:

 Ed, do you think that Beckham and his fame and media exposure help US
 football's growth?

It will help, but it won't be *the* thing. As Stephen mentioned, if  
the networks can't sell commercial time, they aren't interested. One  
network (ESPN) has regularly-scheduled MLS games every Saturday, and  
they use picture-in-picture techniques to show a commercial while the  
game is going on. Due to the nature of the game, though, unless  
there's an injury stoppage, they can't find a point where there is 30  
seconds of inaction, and you end up missing something good.

I think that the MLS folks were hoping that Freddy Adu would develop  
into a superstar along the lines of Michael Jordan, but he's turned  
out to be just another smallish forward with a wicked left foot and a  
tendency to dive.

But at least I hear that there is a new movie in the works as a  
result: Spend it like Beckham.  ;-)

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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 12 January 2007 03:09, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
 Pete Theisen wrote:
  On Thursday 11 January 2007 20:04, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
  Michael Madigan wrote:
  Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to
  support the assasination of the president.
 
  I don't give a damn. I'm not subject to YOUR laws (lucky eh?).
 
  Hi Ricardo!
 
  Thank you for your candor. We will take this into consideration every
  time we see anything from you from now on.

 Hi, my dear Pete!

 Ok. Please also take into consideration I live in a SOVEREIGN country,
 and that I have a SOVEREIGN mind 

Hi Ricardo!

I think I would consider IMPERIAL mind to be more accurately descriptive.
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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 12 January 2007 03:51, Adam Buckland wrote:
 That's real class, have a beef with the US and murder the British
 Governor of the Falkland Islands.

 Didn't you have a go at the Falklands a quarter of a century ago and get
 your asses kicked then?

 With the state of your economy could you fund a coup d'etat on anything
 larger than an iceberg?

Hi Adam!

Hadn't noticed any posts from you in a while. Been on vacation?
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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

2007-01-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:42 AM, Peter Cushing wrote:

  Now the lawyers will duke it out.
 Not heard that expression before, so looked it up:

 http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/duke+it+out


 You learn something new every day :-)

Then I guess you'll have no trouble figuring out what someone means  
if they say to you Put up your dukes!.

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RE: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Adam Buckland
Yes, a week in Seattle for tax reasons.

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Hi Adam!

Hadn't noticed any posts from you in a while. Been on vacation?
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RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Bourke
OK, that's one app busted by IE7. First I've heard of. Not bad
considering the size of the rollout.
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RE: Can FPD2.6 application run on Windows 2003 server

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Bourke
They *do* work with TS, however due to the way the VDM allocates memory
for 16-bit apps, and a host of other reasons, it's not a good idea.
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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Bourke
When you can develop an application from start to finish without having
to ever worry about browser incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness
of AJAX and ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by
hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will die. Long
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Re: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/12/07, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917607

 However, the Windows Help program has not had a major update for many
 releases and no longer meets Microsoft standards.


It no longer meets Microsoft standards? I guess it couldn't sink that low, eh?

What a pile of stinking NewSpeak.

Has not had a major update for many releases? Does that mean that it
just worked? No wonder they had to discontinue it.

Classic Microsoft.

I wonder if you could copy winhelp.exe from an older (working) machine
to Vista. Not that you could do this, mind you, without violating the
distribution requirements of their licenses no doubt. Ah, the joys of
proprietary software!
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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-12 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/12/07, Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, that's one app busted by IE7. First I've heard of. Not bad
 considering the size of the rollout.
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QuickBooks Professional 2003 and others.
Dreamweaver 8 (patched in 8.0.2)
Eudora
Roxio DVD Builder
Earthlink Spam Blocker

A Google search on application broken IE7 yields 436,000

Not bad for an urgent update eh?

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Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Bourke
OK, that's 5. I doubt there's 436,000 distinct applications that it
busted either! I still think, given the installed userbase of IE, that
it has been pretty painless. 
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Re: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote:
 Has not had a major update for many releases? Does that mean that it
 just worked? No wonder they had to discontinue it.

 Classic Microsoft.
   

LOL!

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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

2007-01-12 Thread Peter Cushing
Ed Leafe wrote:
   Then I guess you'll have no trouble figuring out what someone means  
 if they say to you Put up your dukes!.
   

Going a bit OT here but...
Hope nobody says that to me at Easter when we visit LA/Vegas/Palm 
Springs and San Diego O:-)
Looking forward to seeing the promised land.

Peter



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RE: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?
= 
=  --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:= 
= BTW, 8% growth for the last 5 years, we're not that bad.
= 

8% of next-to-nothing is statistically significant but still amounts to 
significantly less than next-to-nothing.  Our crime rate grows faster than that!

And if you are planning on invading the USA, just wait a few more weeks because 
it will be a lot easier then.  All of our military resources will be in the ME 
trying to save Bush's sweet-cheeks.

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/12/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 =Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?
 =
 = --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:=
 =BTW, 8% growth for the last 5 years, we're not that bad.
 =

 8% of next-to-nothing is statistically significant but still amounts to 
 significantly less than next-to-nothing.  Our crime rate grows faster than 
 that!

And at least there you're not starting from nothing'

A+
jml


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RE: [OT] That quaint old Constitution

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: RE: [OT] That quaint old Constitution
= 
= Hal,
= 
=  But think about it, this is all beginning to make sense in an 
=  insidious way.  Our educational efforts pretty much suck ...
=  so who can read the Constitution (assuming its existence 
= is known), 
=  let alone understand any of it?
= 
= You're kidding, right?
=

Me?  Kidding?  Only on the outside.  Inside, there is great wisdom in what I 
have to say.

 
= The US constitution is short and not difficult at all to 
= read and understand. Sure, there are interpretations that 
= can be difficult, but the basic message is something an 
= elementary school kid can understand. That's when I got my 
= first intro to it.
=

Yes, me too.  And if you bothered to read all of my message, you would have 
noticed that I mentioned that those of us who had the benefit of a decent 
education (i.e. over 50) will be dying-off sooner than later.  Ergo, we will no 
longer be able to contribute to anyone's understanding of the Constitution.
 
= As far as newly sworn-in citizens being the only ones that 
= understand it ...
= Hardly. That constitution of ours is still better known 
= around the world than just about any other country's 
= constitution. Pieces of it are told to travelers as 
= warnings, such as to watch out because in this country the 
= citizens are frequently armed.

Yes, the result of too many westerns hawked around the world by Hollywood.  We 
are all COWBOYS!  Knowing that we have the right to bear arms is not synonymous 
with understanding the Constitution.  Can you recite the terms of Presidential 
Succession from the 25th amendment without referring to it?  I can't but my 
newly nationalized neighbor can.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?
= 
=  8% of next-to-nothing is statistically significant but 
= still amounts to significantly less than next-to-nothing.  
= Our crime rate grows faster than that!
= 
= And at least there you're not starting from nothing'
= 
= A+
= jml

Right you are, Jean, as usual.  We have a long history of crime in this country 
that was started by Europeans who were expelled from their own countries 
because of their criminality.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: Re: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is 
= responsible for?
= 
= On 1/12/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
=  Hal,
= 
=   This can easily be corrected by exposing more people to what we 
=   consider to be rare conditions.
= 
=  I believe the correction is more likely to come when doctors avail 
=  themselves of online medical information to a greater 
= extent. Doctors 
=  are still memorizing everything and aren't researching 
= answers like 
=  they should be. When they can break away from trusting 
= only what they 
=  remember we will all benefit.
= 
=   Kristyne,
= 
= Part of the problem seems to be that Am. doctors specialise 
= far too early in their studies which prevents them from 
= seeing the general picture. Every Belgian doctor fe has 
= studied for GP before he specialises in his chosen field.
= Just something i picked up from conversations with doctors 
= ...so it may be they were biased a little
= 
= A+
= jml
= 

I must take exception, Jean, mon ami.  It is more a symptom of use it or lose 
it.  In this country, getting a M.D. is pretty much the same for everyone and 
you cannot get one unless you are qualified to diagnose and treat virtually 
every ailment that is considered significant by the medical education boards.  
Once you have the M.D. you can train and qualify for specialty practice 
according to the requirements set forth by the particular specialty board.  It 
is that concentration AFTER one becomes an M.D. that begins the journey AWAY 
from general practice. 

I see many doctors professionally and the specialists are first-rate and my GP 
is first-rate too.  Unfortunately, for the most part, they are not 
interchangeable.  And the GP tends to know more about the specialties than the 
specialists know about topics outside of their specialty.


Kristyne, the practice of capitation that is used by medical insurance 
companies to minimize costs and maximize their profits at the expense of the 
patients and providers, dictates that a doctor cannot spend a significant 
amount of time with any patient or with any patient's problems.  Research is 
something you have to do on your own time.  It is much more expedient to refer 
a patient to a specialist than to attempt treatment of anything beyond the most 
simple injury or infection or virus.  If you want superior medical attention, 
go out of network and choose a doctor who does not want to be controlled by the 
insurance companies because he respects himself and his profession (as opposed 
to being greedy).

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [NF] Firewall advice

2007-01-12 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
James E Harvey wrote:
 Our previous ISP (Blazenet) was bought by Comcast.
 
 Blazenet required that we purchase a cisco pix firewall 506E as part of our
 package, but it was fully managed by Blazenet.  We didn't even have the
 username/password.
 
 Now, Comcast says they will not support the Cisco 506E firewall which was
 installed by Blazenet.  
 
 We finally got the username/password from Comcast, and they have offered to
 replace the Cisco with either a Netgear or SMC gateway.
 
 Should I be concerned?

Concerned about what? The quality of a netgear/SMC gateway over the 
existing Cisco box? Or of Comcast's attitude that they'll buy a customer 
list but not support what the customers had contracted for?

Will THEY support the netgear, handling all the firewall issues? 
(snicker, snicker) Or are they just offering to replace the box, but 
you're still on your own to manage it?

SBC did the same thing to me, but not even under the guise of buying an 
ISP. One year they managed my firewall (same situation - I didn't even 
have the password to the box); next year, I was on my own. Bastards.

Whil


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RE: [NF] Another app broken by IE7

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: Re: [NF] Another app broken by IE7
= 
= OK, that's 5. I doubt there's 436,000 distinct applications 
= that it busted either! I still think, given the installed 
= userbase of IE, that it has been pretty painless. 
= -- 
= 
=   Alan Bourke

Did anyone mention AOL Mail?

Having spent many years on the OS-producing side of the fence, let me point out 
that it is not fair to categorically blame every failure on IE7.  

If IE6 was working according to spec and the spec has changed, then IE7 is at 
fault.

If IE7 is not working according to its spec, then it is at fault as well.

If the app used IE6 in a way inconsistent with its spec and that situation is 
not allowed in IE7, then the app is at fault.

I am not aware of any analysis that goes beyond It's broken! has been 
performed to determine the actual culpability in any of these cases.

Let's remember that the little people who produced IE7 are smart, 
hard-working people very much like the rest of us.  Even though we may like to 
bash Microsoft (and frequently with justification), it is our colleagues in the 
trenches who suffer as well.

Foxers should know better than most how easily a few bad words from a selfish, 
uncaring source can create a very unpleasant situation.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: RE: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!
= 
= I think I spy an iPhoney
= Jim
= 

I've had one of the Microsoft phones for over a year now and I have mixed 
feelings.  It is great as a PDA but rather poor as a phone.  I like my old 
phone with real buttons I can grope much better.  With the iPhone-or-whatever, 
you need two hands to make a call.

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/12/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 =Subject: Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.
 As my good friend, George S. Patton, Gen, USA, used to say, No dumb
bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.  He won the war by
making the other poor bastard die for *his* country.

Appropriatedear old 'blood  guts Patton

A+
jml


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RE: [NF] Firewall advice

2007-01-12 Thread James E Harvey
We've heard other negative comments from people in our area concerning
Comcast, but I rarely, if ever, have heard a positive comment about any
cable company.

Comcast will replace, but not support the new device.  I'm not aware of
their reasoning for replacing one device not supported by them with
another???

I'm mainly concerned about the quality of the replacement devices they are
offering.

I would consider looking for a local consultant who had experience with the
Cisco to manage that device, if the same level of protection is not
available in the Netgear or SMC devices.



James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
bus: 717-637-8931
fax: 717-637-6766

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:41 AM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [NF] Firewall advice

James E Harvey wrote:
 Our previous ISP (Blazenet) was bought by Comcast.
 
 Blazenet required that we purchase a cisco pix firewall 506E as part of
our
 package, but it was fully managed by Blazenet.  We didn't even have the
 username/password.
 
 Now, Comcast says they will not support the Cisco 506E firewall which was
 installed by Blazenet.  
 
 We finally got the username/password from Comcast, and they have offered
to
 replace the Cisco with either a Netgear or SMC gateway.
 
 Should I be concerned?

Concerned about what? The quality of a netgear/SMC gateway over the 
existing Cisco box? Or of Comcast's attitude that they'll buy a customer 
list but not support what the customers had contracted for?

Will THEY support the netgear, handling all the firewall issues? 
(snicker, snicker) Or are they just offering to replace the box, but 
you're still on your own to manage it?

SBC did the same thing to me, but not even under the guise of buying an 
ISP. One year they managed my firewall (same situation - I didn't even 
have the password to the box); next year, I was on my own. Bastards.

Whil


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RE: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.
= 
= On 1/12/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
=  =Subject: Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.
=  As my good friend, George S. Patton, Gen, USA, used to say, 
= No dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.  
= He won the war by making the other poor bastard die for 
= *his* country.
= 
= Appropriatedear old 'blood  guts Patton
= 
= A+
= jml

Yes, his guts, your blood.  The man is my hero.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Firewall advice

2007-01-12 Thread john harvey
Yes.

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of James E Harvey
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:44 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: [NF] Firewall advice

Our previous ISP (Blazenet) was bought by Comcast.

Blazenet required that we purchase a cisco pix firewall 506E as part of our
package, but it was fully managed by Blazenet.  We didn't even have the
username/password.

Now, Comcast says they will not support the Cisco 506E firewall which was
installed by Blazenet.  

We finally got the username/password from Comcast, and they have offered to
replace the Cisco with either a Netgear or SMC gateway.

Should I be concerned?


James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
bus: 717-637-8931
fax: 717-637-6766




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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
= 
= When you can develop an application from start to finish 
= without having to ever worry about browser 
= incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and 
= ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by 
= hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will 
= die. Long way off yet.
= --
=   Alan Bourke

Bless you, Alan.  Very well put.  However could you please provide a definition 
for ...

FIDDLINESS

FURTLE

Thank you.  These are great words and a definition is in order, please.

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Jean Laeremans
On 1/12/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, his guts, your blood.  The man is my hero.

Hero worship at your advanced agesigh

imo Rommel was by far the best tank commander of WOII, even Patton
acknowledged this...

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen1.htm

A+
jml


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RE: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Lukachko
He's already on the list. There are about 100 key words that Homeland
Security listens for from phone conversations (yes ALL phone calls are
monitored by Homeland security) and searches for on the internet. If you or
the other person you are communicating with use any of these keywords,
you're on their watch list. 

If the use of the keywords persists, you keep getting bumped up to a higher
security risk level. At a certain level, you will be considered a threat to
Homeland Security and you will be denied access to the U.S.

-Original Message-
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Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:20 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

I hope you don't plan on coming here, they may refuse
your visa.


--- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael Madigan wrote:
  Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to
  support the assasination of the president.
  
 
 I don't give a damn. I'm not subject to YOUR laws
 (lucky eh?).
 
  
  
  --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Let's suppose the subject is true Then for
  Christ's sake, let's find
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RE: VFP5 help files

2007-01-12 Thread Allen
That didn’t work either im sorry to say.
Seems the error starts with the open dialog on a double click instead of
just running it.
Then it errors with a message along the lines of you don’t have internet
access.
As this is running on AOL broadband I would not be surprised what that
rubbish does.
Weird
Allen 

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I wonder if you could copy winhelp.exe from an older (working) machine
to Vista. Not that you could do this, mind you, without violating the
distribution requirements of their licenses no doubt. Ah, the joys of
proprietary software!

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RE: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= To: ProFox Email List
= Subject: Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.
= 
= On 1/12/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
= 
=  Yes, his guts, your blood.  The man is my hero.
= 
= Hero worship at your advanced agesigh
= 
= imo Rommel was by far the best tank commander of WOII, even 
= Patton acknowledged this...
= 
= http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen1.htm
= 
= A+
= jml
= 

Yes, you are (as usual) correct, mon ami.  Patton thought the world of Rommel 
as a tactician and commander, and had great respect for him as well.  Too bad 
he was on the side of the enemy, though.  But oddly enough the Germans has a 
much higher opinion of Patton than the politically-correct Americans.  
Nevertheless, George S. is my hero.  I don't think you can ever be too old to 
have a hero or two.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Crozier
Alan and Hal,
I think that should be Fiddlyness and Furkle.

Must admit Furkle is good and I use it a lot - meaning to interfere with or
slightly tweak.

Anyway I'm going to grab my pizzle, check my merkin, Gold chest medallion
and Beegees teeth and head for home!

Have a good weeken all!

Dave Crozier


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Hal Kaplan
Sent: 12 January 2007 16:29
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

= Subject: RE: [NF] The end of desktop software development?
= 
= When you can develop an application from start to finish 
= without having to ever worry about browser 
= incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness of AJAX and 
= ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by 
= hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will 
= die. Long way off yet.
= --
=   Alan Bourke

Bless you, Alan.  Very well put.  However could you please provide a
definition for ...

FIDDLINESS

FURTLE

Thank you.  These are great words and a definition is in order, please.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

2007-01-12 Thread Dave Crozier
Gary,
I vote for the Pub!

Dave Crozier

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Sent: 12 January 2007 16:56
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

Howdy all,

I'm trying to use an API from BetFair.com and I thought the S in SOAP
stood for Simple...?

The WSDL file is:

https://api.betfair.com/global/v3/BFGlobalService.wsdl

I even downloaded Rick's wwSOAP and it doesn't work either (NB:  I'm
by no means dissing Rick - it's probably badly formed XML somewhere or
PEBCAK).

Any headsup or tips?  Or, should I just go to the pub, its' Friday.

Not a happy bunny,

G.

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[OT] Chain Letter

2007-01-12 Thread srussell
A real man's chain letter!

At last This chain letter was started in hopes
of bringing relief to other tired and discouraged
men.  Unlike most chain letters, this one doesn't
cost anything!

Just send a copy of this letter to five of your male
friends who are equally tired and discontented.
Then bundle up your wife and/or girlfriend and send
her to the man whose name appears at the top of the
following list, and add your name to the bottom of
the list.

When your turn comes, you will receive 15,625 women.
One of them is bound to be better than the one you
already have.

At the writing of this letter, a friend of mine had
already received 184 women, four of whom were worth
keeping.

This chain also brings good luck.  One man's pit
bull died, and the next day he received a Playboy
playmate.

An unmarried Jewish man living with his widowed
mother was able to choose between a Hooter's
waitress and a Hollywood super model.

You can be lucky too, but DO NOT BREAK THE CHAIN!
One man broke the chain and got his wife back again.


Let's keep it going, men! Just add your name to the
list below.

--
Bill Clinton
780 3rd Ave
New York, NY 10017

Billy Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York, NY 10017

Billie Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York, NY 10017

B. Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York, NY 10017

William Jefferson Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York, NY 10017

W. Jefferson Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York, NY 10017

W. Jeff Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
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780 3rd Ave.
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W. Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
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780 3r d Ave.
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780 3rd Ave.
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Wilhelm Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
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Billy Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York , NY 10017

Willie Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York , NY 10017

Will Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York , NY 10017

Mr. Hillary Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
New York , NY

Mr. H Clinton
780 3rd Ave.
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[OT] FW: [Fwd: Fwd: A New Direction for America]

2007-01-12 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Heres a good one for all of you democrats
 

Virgil Bierschwale
HYPERLINK http://www.virgilslist.com/http://www.virgilslist.com
HYPERLINK http://www.tccutlery.com/http://www.tccutlery.com
HYPERLINK http://www.bierschwale.com/http://www.bierschwale.com
HYPERLINK
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com/http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com


 

   _  

From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:45 AM
To: James W. Lenz; Jenschke Clinton C WS-10 37 CES/CEOF6; Virgil Bierschwale
Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: A New Direction for America]




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From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 7:07 AM
Subject: Fwd: A New Direction for America


 This is pretty good!!!
 
 
Subject: A New Direction for America


Subject:  A New Direction for America.Pelosi/Reid and Company. 
 
The Democrats now  promise, A New Direction For America 
 
  The  stock market is at a new all-time high and America 's 401K's  are
back.
  A new direction from there means,  what?
 
  Unemployment is at 25 year lows.
  A  new direction from there means, what?
 
  Oil prices  are plummeting.
  A new direction from there means, what? 
 
  Taxes are at 20 year lows.
  A new  direction from there means, what?
 
  Federal tax  revenues are at all-time highs.
  A new direction from there means, what?
 
  The Federal deficit is down almost 50%, just as predicted over last  year.

  A new direction from there means, what?
 
  Home valuations are up 200% over the past 3.5 years.
  A new direction from there means,  what?
 
  Inflation is in check, hovering at 20 year  lows.
  A new direction from there means, what? 
 
  Not a single terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11/01 .
  A new direction from there means,  what?
 
  Osama bin Laden is living under a rock in a dark cave, having not surfaced
in years, if he's alive at all, while  95% of Al Queda's top dogs are
either dead or in custody, cooperating with US  Intel. 
 A new direction from there means, what?
 
  Several major terrorist attacks already thwarted by US and British Intel,
including the recent planned attack involving 10 Jumbo Jets being exploded
in mid-air over major US cities in order to celebrate the anniversary of
the 9/11/01 attacks.
A new direction from there means, what?
 
  Just as  President Bush foretold us on a number of occasions, Iraq was  to
be made ground  zero for the war on terrorism -- and just as President
Bush said they would,  terrorist cells from all over the region are
arriving from the shadows of their  hiding places and flooding into Iraq in
order to get  their faces blown off by US  Marines rather than boarding
planes and heading  to the United States to wage war  on us here. 
A new direction from there means, what?
 
  Now let me see, do I have this right? I can expect:
 
  The economy to go South
  Illegal's to go North
  Taxes to go Up
  Employment to go Down
  Terrorism to come In
  Tax breaks to go Out
  Social Security to go away
  Health Care to go the same way gas prices have gone
 
  But what the heck!
 
  I can gain comfort by knowing that  Nancy P, Hillary C, John K, Edward  K,
Howard D, Harry R and Obama have worked  hard to create a  comprehensive
National Security Plan, Health Care Plan,  Immigration Reform Plan, Gay
Rights  Plan,  Same Sex Marriage Plan, Abortion On  Demand Plan,  Tolerance
of Everyone 

[NF] MythTV demo by Hacking MythTV author

2007-01-12 Thread Ted Roche
From: Jim Kuzdrall
Date: January 11, 2007 6:33:03 AM EST
Subject: [GNHLUG] MerriLUG Nashua, Thur 18 January, Jarod Wilson  
Expounds MythTV

Who  : Jarod Wilson, Red Hat, Author Hacking MythTV (ExtremeTech)
What : MythTV review, tips, questions answered, books autographed.
Where: Martha's Exchange
Day  : Thur 18 January **Next Week**
Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30 PM for discussion

:: Overview

 First and foremost, MythTV is a digital video recorder (DVR), not
unlike TiVo -- both even run on top of Linux.

 But if you're not too keen on the idea of a monthly fee, dislike
encumbered access to content you've legitimately recorded, or want the
freedom to tinker with and expand the capabilities of your DVR without
limitation, a TiVo may not be for you.  For most Linux users, chances
are, Microsoft's Windows XP Media Center Edition (or anything that runs
on Windows) isn't the ticket either.

 Ever heard of someone exporting video from their DVR to a video  
iPod
with only two button presses on a remote?

 How about watching high definition television recordings without
having to lift a finger to skip commercials?

 Want to have multiple televisions in your house all able to watch
the same pool of recorded content?

 Want to watch that same content on the deck, streamed wirelessly to
your laptop?

 MythTV can do all that and more.  Come find out how!

   RSVP to Jim Kuzdrall for dinner to assure adequate seating. 
  !!! If you are a Regular Attendee, let me know and I will put
you on said list.  Then, just let me know if you are NOT coming. !!!

Driving directions:
http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/PlaceMarthasExchange

Thanks,

Jim Kuzdrall




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Is there a user group near Indianapolis, Indiana?

2007-01-12 Thread Tracy Pearson
Just got asked if I knew of one, thought I'd network for an answer.

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Re: Is there a user group near Indianapolis, Indiana?

2007-01-12 Thread MB Software Solutions
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Just got asked if I knew of one, thought I'd network for an answer.

 Thanks,
 Tracy
   

I'd like to know that too, as I have family there and visit often.

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Re: [OT] the new style of campaign

2007-01-12 Thread Michael Madigan
Nice to see all that greenhouse gas that's being
pumped into the atmosphere by his private jet.


--- Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

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 Not just a 20 second spin.
 
 Stephen Russell
 DBA / .Net Developer
  
 Memphis TN 38115
 901.246-0159
 
 Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual
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 missiles and misguided men. 
 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
 
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Re: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

2007-01-12 Thread Casey McGuire
Garry Bettle wrote:
 Howdy all,
 
 I'm trying to use an API from BetFair.com and I thought the S in SOAP
 stood for Simple...?
 
 The WSDL file is:
 
 https://api.betfair.com/global/v3/BFGlobalService.wsdl
 
 I even downloaded Rick's wwSOAP and it doesn't work either (NB:  I'm
 by no means dissing Rick - it's probably badly formed XML somewhere or
 PEBCAK).
 
 Any headsup or tips?  Or, should I just go to the pub, its' Friday.
 
 Not a happy bunny,

Can you be a little more specific on your problem.  Are you having 
trouble getting SOAP to connect to the server or is it a particular 
function call to the server that is causing you troubles?

Casey


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Re: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Michael Madigan
He has only come to America to get better looking
chix.


--- Adam Buckland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, football the most popular game in the world.
 
 Ed, do you think that Beckham and his fame and media
 exposure help US
 football's growth?
 
 
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RE: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Michael Madigan
They couldn't win the Falklands, I'd be more worried
about Guatemala


--- Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 = Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?
 = 
 =  --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:= 
 = BTW, 8% growth for the last 5 years, we're not
 that bad.
 = 
 
 8% of next-to-nothing is statistically significant
 but still amounts to significantly less than
 next-to-nothing.  Our crime rate grows faster than
 that!
 
 And if you are planning on invading the USA, just
 wait a few more weeks because it will be a lot
 easier then.  All of our military resources will be
 in the ME trying to save Bush's sweet-cheeks.
 
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RE: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Michael Madigan
I'll remember to trim his posts next time.


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Re: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

2007-01-12 Thread Garry Bettle
On 1/12/07, Casey McGuire wrote:
 Garry Bettle wrote:
  Howdy all,
 
  I'm trying to use an API from BetFair.com and I thought the S in SOAP
  stood for Simple...?
 
  The WSDL file is:
 
  https://api.betfair.com/global/v3/BFGlobalService.wsdl
 
  I even downloaded Rick's wwSOAP and it doesn't work either (NB:  I'm
  by no means dissing Rick - it's probably badly formed XML somewhere or
  PEBCAK).
 
  Any headsup or tips?  Or, should I just go to the pub, its' Friday.
 
  Not a happy bunny,

 Can you be a little more specific on your problem.  Are you having
 trouble getting SOAP to connect to the server or is it a particular
 function call to the server that is causing you troubles?

 Casey

Hi Casey,

Oh, I don't know anymore - and I haven't even been to the pub yet.

No matter how I format the XML that is sent to the Login method
exposed by the WSDL, it craps out with:

OK2007-01-12T16:14:35.741ZINVALID_USERNAME_OR_PASSWORD0001-01-01T00:00:00.000Z

And the XML WORKS in an .NET WSDL testing suite I downloaded.   From
the Request/Response tab of this app, I've copied the XML used when I
use the Login method - see below - I've replaced the UserName 
Password with *s, but I've stored and use only the original:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-16?
soap:Envelope xmlns:soap=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/;
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
  soap:Body
login xmlns=http://www.betfair.com/publicapi/v3/BFGlobalService/;
  request
locationId xmlns=0/locationId
password xmlns=/password
productId xmlns=82/productId
username xmlns=***/username
vendorSoftwareId xmlns=0/vendorSoftwareId
  /request
/login
  /soap:Body
/soap:Envelope

Here's the code I'm using:

LOCAL loBFGlobalService AS XML Web Service
* LOCAL loBFGlobalService AS MSSOAP.SoapClient30
* Do not remove or alter following line. It is used to support
IntelliSense for your XML Web service.
*__VFPWSDef__: loBFGlobalService =
https://api.betfair.com/global/v3/BFGlobalService.wsdl ,
BFGlobalService , BFGlobalService

LOCAL loException as Exception, lcErrorMsg, loWSHandler, lcLogin,
loLoginResp as Custom, lcLogout

SET TEXTMERGE ON
TEXT TO lcLogout NOSHOW PRETEXT 7
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-16?
soap:Envelope xmlns:soap=http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/;
xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance;
xmlns:xsd=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
  soap:Body
logout xmlns=http://www.betfair.com/publicapi/BFServiceV2/;
  request
header xmlns=
  clientStamp0/clientStamp
  sessionTokenX/sessionToken
/header
  /request
/logout
  /soap:Body
/soap:Envelope
ENDTEXT
SET TEXTMERGE OFF

TRY
loWSHandler = NEWOBJECT( [WSHandler], IIF( VERSION( 2)=0, [], HOME()
+ [FFC\]) + [_ws3client.vcx])
loBFGlobalService = loWSHandler.SetupClient(
[https://api.betfair.com/global/v3/BFGlobalService.wsdl],
[BFGlobalService], [BFGlobalService])

lcCurrency = []
lcErrorCode = []
lcMinorErrorCode = []
lcValidUntil = []
lcPWORD = FILETOSTR( LOCFILE( [Login.txt]))

loLoginResp = loBFGlobalService.Login( lcPWORD)
IF ![INVALID_USERNAME_OR_PASSWORD] $ loLoginResp.Context.Text
= MESSAGEBOX( [Login successfull], 48, [Yes!!!])
loBFGlobalService.Logout( lclogout)
= MESSAGEBOX( [Logout successfull], 48, [Yes!!!])
ELSE
= MESSAGEBOX( [Login failed], 48, [Feck!!!])
ENDIF

CATCH TO loException
lcErrorMsg = [Error: ] + TRANSFORM( loException.Errorno) + [ - ] +
loException.Message
DO CASE
CASE VARTYPE( loBFGlobalService) # [O]
* Handle SOAP error connecting to web service
CASE !EMPTY( loBFGlobalService.FaultCode)
* Handle SOAP error calling method
lcErrorMsg = lcErrorMsg + CHR( 13) + 
loBFGlobalService.Detail
OTHERWISE
* Handle other error
ENDCASE
* Use for debugging purposes
MESSAGEBOX( lcErrorMsg)
FINALLY
ENDTRY

rant
If I ever meet the f**kwit who designed SOAP ...

At this rate - 2 days so far - I could have wrote the whole bloody
project in PHP!
/rant

G.


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Weird menu effect for SkipFor clause (VFP8 SP1)

2007-01-12 Thread MB Software Solutions
I've got some future online menu options that I disabled with a 1=1 
in the SkipFor clause.  Yet my tester is still able to run that menu 
option when he does his testing??!?!??? 

Anyone else encounter something like this?

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Re: [NF] Apple Computer, Inc., is dead!

2007-01-12 Thread Chet Gardiner
I wonder if a deeper etimology would point to the Marquis of Queensbury 
rules for fisticuffs?

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Marquess+of+Queensberry+rules

Although a Marquis is one step below a Duke...

http://www.chinet.com/~laura/html/titles02.html




Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:42 AM, Peter Cushing wrote:

  

 Now the lawyers will duke it out.
  

Not heard that expression before, so looked it up:

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/duke+it+out


You learn something new every day :-)



   Then I guess you'll have no trouble figuring out what someone means  
if they say to you Put up your dukes!.

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Re: [NF] The end of desktop software development?

2007-01-12 Thread Chet Gardiner
Nor have to depend on your phone or cable company connection!!!  (the 
swine!)

Alan Bourke wrote:

When you can develop an application from start to finish without having
to ever worry about browser incompatibilities, the incredible fiddliness
of AJAX and ever having to even see HTML code let alone furtle it by
hand, etc, etc, THAT'S when the traditional desktop app will die. Long
way off yet.
  



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RE: Weird menu effect for SkipFor clause (VFP8 SP1)

2007-01-12 Thread Rick Schummer
I would think a simple .T. in the SkipFor clause would work better. You also 
might want to try (1=1)
so it is evaluated. 


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Subject: Weird menu effect for SkipFor clause (VFP8 SP1)

I've got some future online menu options that I disabled with a 1=1 
in the SkipFor clause.  Yet my tester is still able to run that menu option 
when he does his
testing??!?!??? 

Anyone else encounter something like this?



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Re: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

2007-01-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 12, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Garry Bettle wrote:

 rant
 If I ever meet the f**kwit who designed SOAP ...

 At this rate - 2 days so far - I could have wrote the whole bloody
 project in PHP!
 /rant

The original proposal (by Dave Winer) was much simpler than the  
current format. Once Microsoft embraced it, it became so unwieldy  
that the only way to work with it was to use Microsoft's tools.  
Surprise, surprise.

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Re: Weird menu effect for SkipFor clause (VFP8 SP1)

2007-01-12 Thread MB Software Solutions
Rick Schummer wrote:
 I would think a simple .T. in the SkipFor clause would work better. You also 
 might want to try (1=1)
 so it is evaluated. 

   
You mean use the parenthesis pair around the equation?  Ok...I'll try 
that.  First, I'll try just using .T.  Guess for some reason I thought I 
had to have a comparison?

Thanks, Rick!


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RE: Weird menu effect for SkipFor clause (VFP8 SP1)

2007-01-12 Thread Rick Schummer
You mean use the parenthesis pair around the equation?

Yes, so Fox does the evaluation. 


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Re: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

2007-01-12 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/12/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The original proposal (by Dave Winer) was much simpler than the
 current format. Once Microsoft embraced it, it became so unwieldy
 that the only way to work with it was to use Microsoft's tools.
 Surprise, surprise.


Embrace, Enhance, Extend and Extinguish? Tell me it's not so!

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Re: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:10 AM, Adam Buckland wrote:
 
 Ed, do you think that Beckham and his fame and media exposure help US
 football's growth?
 
   It will help, but it won't be *the* thing. As Stephen mentioned, if  
 the networks can't sell commercial time, they aren't interested. One  
 network (ESPN) has regularly-scheduled MLS games every Saturday, and  
 they use picture-in-picture techniques to show a commercial while the  
 game is going on. Due to the nature of the game, though, unless  
 there's an injury stoppage, they can't find a point where there is 30  
 seconds of inaction, and you end up missing something good.
 

What they do here is small 5 or 10 seconds commercials that are
delivered whenever the ball is out of the field or some longer ones
between goals or a penalty. Then in mid-time they can have a large segment.

   I think that the MLS folks were hoping that Freddy Adu would develop  
 into a superstar along the lines of Michael Jordan, but he's turned  
 out to be just another smallish forward with a wicked left foot and a  
 tendency to dive.
 
   But at least I hear that there is a new movie in the works as a  
 result: Spend it like Beckham.  ;-)
 
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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Hal Kaplan wrote:
 = Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?
 = 
 =  --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:= 
 = BTW, 8% growth for the last 5 years, we're not that bad.
 = 
 
 8% of next-to-nothing is statistically significant but still amounts to 
 significantly less than next-to-nothing.  Our crime rate grows faster than 
 that!
 
 And if you are planning on invading the USA, just wait a few more weeks 
 because it will be a lot easier then.  All of our military resources will be 
 in the ME trying to save Bush's sweet-cheeks.
 

Hahaha! That's a good one. We're taking note. ;c)

 B+
 HALinNY
 
 
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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Alan Lukachko wrote:
 He's already on the list. There are about 100 key words that Homeland
 Security listens for from phone conversations (yes ALL phone calls are
 monitored by Homeland security) and searches for on the internet. If you or
 the other person you are communicating with use any of these keywords,
 you're on their watch list. 
 
 If the use of the keywords persists, you keep getting bumped up to a higher
 security risk level. At a certain level, you will be considered a threat to
 Homeland Security and you will be denied access to the U.S.
 

Let me help you:
Bomb, Twin Towers, Ahmadinejad, Islam, Arab, Kill, Bombing, Al Qaeda,
Hamas, Yankees go home, Saddam Hussein, John F.Kennedy, revolution, oil,
conspiracy.

Br! Now I can't go to USA I'm sooo disappointed.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:20 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?
 
 I hope you don't plan on coming here, they may refuse
 your visa.
 
 
 --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Michael Madigan wrote:
 Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to
 support the assasination of the president.

 I don't give a damn. I'm not subject to YOUR laws
 (lucky eh?).


 --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let's suppose the subject is true Then for
 Christ's sake, let's find
 the new Wilkes Booth. ;c)




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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Hal Kaplan wrote:
 = Subject: Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.
 = 
 =  
 = 
 = That answer would be real nice save for the fact that 
 = seppuku is JAPANESE CULTURE.
 = Besides, in seppuku the second (or helper) is there to cut 
 = your head when you require it. So you won't be disgraced if 
 = the pain is too much for you. But you can commit seppuku 
 = without a second, you'll only have to endure pain for a longer time.
 = 
 = 
 
 
 I did not realize that you are Japanese, Ricardo.  Sorry.
 
 Nevertheless, the intent of seppuku is to save face by removing stomach.  
 This is for the benefit of those who can watch it performed.  The Kamikaze's 
 of World War II did not honor the fatherland by crashing into mountains where 
 no one could see them and no one was hurt.  They honored the fatherland by 
 crashing into living, seeing things.  Therefore, the allusion to Nietzsche.
 
 By the way, if the Kamikaze's were sworn to kill themselves for the glory of 
 their fathers, why did they wear helmets and goggles?
 
 This whole business about what you call Japanese Culture is very telling.  
 It explains why there are no more Samurai 

There are no more samurai because the Emperor decreed so.


and why Japan lost the war in the pacific.  As my good friend, George S. 
Patton, Gen, USA, used to say, No dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for 
his country.  He won the war by making the other poor bastard die for *his* 
country.
 
 Alas, perhaps this is too much for you to accept after the Maldives debacle.
 
 B+
 HALinNY
 
 


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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Hal Kaplan wrote:
 = To: ProFox Email List
 = Subject: Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.
 = 
 = On 1/12/07, Hal Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 = 
 =  Yes, his guts, your blood.  The man is my hero.
 = 
 = Hero worship at your advanced agesigh
 = 
 = imo Rommel was by far the best tank commander of WOII, even 
 = Patton acknowledged this...
 = 
 = http://www.achtungpanzer.com/gen1.htm
 = 
 = A+
 = jml
 = 
 
 Yes, you are (as usual) correct, mon ami.  Patton thought the world of Rommel 
 as a tactician and commander, and had great respect for him as well.  Too bad 
 he was on the side of the enemy, though.  But oddly enough the Germans has a 
 much higher opinion of Patton than the politically-correct Americans.  
 Nevertheless, George S. is my hero.  I don't think you can ever be too old to 
 have a hero or two.
 
 B+
 HALinNY
 
 

Not a good choice. If it should be from the US I'd choose Sam Clemens.



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Re: [OT] Bush is the new Lincoln?

2007-01-12 Thread Helio W.
Madandgay won't be seeing straight the day after watching this:

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/little_mosque.html



On 1/11/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Madigan,

  Be careful, it is illegal in the United States to
  support the assasination of the president.

 That law only applies in the US... Keep it in mind when Hillary or Barack
 or
 Edwards or whomever is next becomes President. You may not be seeing
 straight the day after election day next year.

 Kristyne McDaniel
 http://www.mcstyles.com
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RE: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= 
= There are no more samurai because the Emperor decreed so.
= 

Ricardo, that sure beats seppuku or castration or some other gory ending.

Have a nice weekend!

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Hal Kaplan
= 
= Not a good choice. If it should be from the US I'd choose 
= Sam Clemens.
= 

General Sam Clemens?  The man who single-handedly vanquished the entire army of 
Jubilation T. Cornpone at the battle of Wattsamatta U.?

Or do you mean Mark Twain, the author, raconteur, and all-around fun guy?

Or do you mean San Clemente, the town in Northern California, home of the Nixon 
Library.  Or Roberto Clemente, the outstanding outfielder?

Who in tarnation is it, Ricardo?

Have a nice weekend!

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Michael Madigan
You don't need commercials when you have no viewers.


--- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ed Leafe wrote:
  On Jan 12, 2007, at 4:10 AM, Adam Buckland wrote:
  
  Ed, do you think that Beckham and his fame and
 media exposure help US
  football's growth?
  
  It will help, but it won't be *the* thing. As
 Stephen mentioned, if  
  the networks can't sell commercial time, they
 aren't interested. One  
  network (ESPN) has regularly-scheduled MLS games
 every Saturday, and  
  they use picture-in-picture techniques to show a
 commercial while the  
  game is going on. Due to the nature of the game,
 though, unless  
  there's an injury stoppage, they can't find a
 point where there is 30  
  seconds of inaction, and you end up missing
 something good.
  
 
 What they do here is small 5 or 10 seconds
 commercials that are
 delivered whenever the ball is out of the field or
 some longer ones
 between goals or a penalty. Then in mid-time they
 can have a large segment.
 
  I think that the MLS folks were hoping that
 Freddy Adu would develop  
  into a superstar along the lines of Michael
 Jordan, but he's turned  
  out to be just another smallish forward with a
 wicked left foot and a  
  tendency to dive.
  
  But at least I hear that there is a new movie in
 the works as a  
  result: Spend it like Beckham.  ;-)
  
  -- Ed Leafe
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  -- http://dabodev.com
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [OT] - Football

2007-01-12 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:33 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

 What they do here is small 5 or 10 seconds commercials that are
 delivered whenever the ball is out of the field or some longer ones
 between goals or a penalty. Then in mid-time they can have a large  
 segment.

There just isn't enough football airtime for the advertisers to  
create such short commercials. All of the other major sports here  
have time-outs that last at least 2 minutes, so 30-second spots are  
about as short as they go. That's why they go with that picture-in- 
picture format which reduces the game to an area the size of a stamp.

-- Ed Leafe
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Re: [OT] Forget the SAT exam.

2007-01-12 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Hal Kaplan wrote:
 = 
 = Not a good choice. If it should be from the US I'd choose 
 = Sam Clemens.
 = 
 
 General Sam Clemens?  The man who single-handedly vanquished the entire army 
 of Jubilation T. Cornpone at the battle of Wattsamatta U.?
 
 Or do you mean Mark Twain, the author, raconteur, and all-around fun guy?
 
 Or do you mean San Clemente, the town in Northern California, home of the 
 Nixon Library.  Or Roberto Clemente, the outstanding outfielder?
 
 Who in tarnation is it, Ricardo?
 
 Have a nice weekend!
 

Take a wild guess and have a nice weekend too.





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RE: [OT] I wonder how many suicides Kristyne is responsible for?

2007-01-12 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Hal,

 If you want superior medical attention, go out of
 network and choose a doctor who does not want to be
 controlled by the insurance companies because he 
 respects himself and his profession (as opposed to
 being greedy).

We finally found a GP we like about 18 months ago, and we have a PPO now
instead of an HMO so we actually can go wherever we like. At this point,
though, the insurance company can still turn a procedure down if they want
to. They turned down a procedure about a year ago that turned out to be a
correct call. It was a device for desensitizing pain with an electro
stimulator implant. We'll find out for sure if it was truly not needed in a
few months. It appears that the pain we thought was due to a hernia repair
that pinched a nerve could actually be coming largely from a really badly
arthritic hip joint. Nobody ever thought to x-ray Steve's right hip as a
possible source of the pain.

Steve will be going in about a month from now for a hip replacement on his
right hip. We do seem to be getting the care we need after a few false
starts here and there, but we also wonder about what it would be like if we
weren't so pushy about making sure we got it.

Kristyne McDaniel
http://www.mcstyles.com
http://www.emryldlife.com




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RE: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

2007-01-12 Thread Alan Lukachko
It's Friday - just go to the pub

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Garry Bettle
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Anyone have any experience with a SOAP API from BetFair.com?

Howdy all,

I'm trying to use an API from BetFair.com and I thought the S in SOAP
stood for Simple...?

The WSDL file is:

https://api.betfair.com/global/v3/BFGlobalService.wsdl

I even downloaded Rick's wwSOAP and it doesn't work either (NB:  I'm
by no means dissing Rick - it's probably badly formed XML somewhere or
PEBCAK).

Any headsup or tips?  Or, should I just go to the pub, its' Friday.

Not a happy bunny,

G.

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MCP, Security+, MCTS SQL 2005


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