Revisiting control surfaces. Sorry, I know.
So, I know we’ve done this lots before, but I’m back to thinking about control surfaces. I really can’t work effectively without being able to automate plugins with a control surface, and I really don’t want to abandon ProTools, given that I’m getting pretty clued up about it, and I work pretty quickly with it. So, I was thinking about the Artist Mix. I know it doesn’t have transport buttons, which is a bit irritating, however I wonder if I am able to use the artist Mix with my BCF control surface, then I could use the BCF2000 as a transport control surface, and maybe even use it for fader and pan automation, and I can use my Artist Mix for pluguin automation. Does that sound plausible? Also, is it easy enough to choose what the faders and knobs automate. In other words, is choosing what the faders do, and what plugin controls easy to achieve with VoiceOver and PT? Your thoughts are very welcome. -- David Eagle Website: http://www.davideagle.co.uk Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/thedavideagle; -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
C couple of queries about volume
Hi, in Sonar there were two volume controls on each track: a volume and a trim. The trim was very useful because it meant that I could make volume automation changes, but still have the ability to change the overall volume of that track with the trim control. The only way I can think to achieve this in ProTools is to add the track to a bus and then create a secondary volume option that way, but this seems a little finicky. The other option would be to apply automation again. Any ideas on this one? My final question is about deleting automation on a bus. Is it possible to do? I’ve automated a bus with reverb on, and in the main it sounds great, except one tiny bit that I’d like to adjust. Is it possible to delete automation on busses? Thanks for all your help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Control Surface Recommendations
That sounds great mac, but from my research, it seemed as if only the avid and Macki controllers allowed you to automate plug-in parameters. ProTools does not have a midi learn function, so the midi learn option on the control you mention will be redundant. I'm pretty sure that's the case. I might have to invest in one of the avid units at some point. Sent from my iPhone On 25 Mar 2015, at 17:45, Mac Egbert vano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Alex, I have struggeldwith this question myself. And a I think I have the answer. I will go for the QCon Pro. its made by Icon. And able to do Protools, QBase, Sonar, Logic and more. the QCon Pro is a unit with nine motorised faders and all the knobs you could venture. Inc jogwheel, and transpoorts, as play, stop, rewind, fast forward, loop and record. there are knobs for automatisation, midi learning and many more features. I spoke to my dealer, who sells all kind of controles, not only this nice priced ones, but avid and macky to. his saying is that this QCon Pro can do what all the others can. So why bother spending more money? you can also buy an audio interface wich fits in the pro unit, the Icon 1008. 10 inputs, 8 outputs, spdif, midi and more. I will soon get the feel of this QCon pro and if any of you, would like my experiences with this controlservice, i could post a podcast link on this list. Any pro's and con's I will mention freely, also because I did not buy anything yet... here in Europ, the pro is going for 600 euro's and that also the price for there Ex expanders. With 3 of them, you can have your hands on 32 motorised faders and a lot of really control! Mac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Oo, exciting news about the braille display wheels. I have a focus 40. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 16:32, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: ``Actually, if you happen to have a braille display with whiz weels like the focus 40 blue, you can make value changes a lot quicker. Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:45 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi Brian, You probably won't like my answer very much but, frankly, I've never read a gain reduction meter in Pro Tools as long as I've used it and that would be since 2002. To be honest, before that, even when I could actually make out a VU meter, I always relied on my ears. That said, naturally, I think it's something that should be accessible. In other words, for most people, it's not a deal-breaker but it's an issue that needs attention. For now, exaggerate your compression, back it off and trust your ears. Best, Slau On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: How agre folks getting around not being able to read gain reduction meters in pt? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2015, at 8:50 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea
Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12
Yes, being able to adjust slider values in larger increments would be massively helpful. And gain reduction feedback in compressors too. I'm a bit unsure what happens when you increase the volume on a track. If you have a compressor insert on that track, does the volume adjustment affect the level before or after the compressor? In sonar there was a trim and a volume option. Thanks aplenty Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:18, studiojay overdriverecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, Thanks again for every thing you are doing. My input. I agree with Gord, it would be cool to change plugin values in larger increments. Also, it would be nice to be able to read gain reduction meters in compressor plugins both stock and 3rd party. Also, there are 2 popup menus in the select-split notes dialog that do not work with voiceover. This dialog is accessed with option y. Regards, Jason On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:53:01 AM UTC-4, Gord wrote: Is there any hope for structure? That is an Avid virtual instrument, isn't it? Also, it would be nice to be able to adjust some parameter sliders in larger increments, or to type in values directly. Keep up the good work Slau! Gord -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:58 PM To: ptac...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: feedback needed for Pro Tools 12 Hi John, Yep, you might have missed the previous reply. Click is definitely an issue that needs to be resolved. For now, all of the parameters are accessible via a control surface. For those who don't have a surface, I'll see if I can come up with a number of presets to help in the mean time. I'm leaving town this week and will be gone for 2 weeks so it'll be a while. The status of the Input monitor button is identified by its name. VoiceOver indicates when it's engaged but not when it's not engaged. In other words, much like a mute button that is off, you'll only hear the name of the button as opposed to hearing that it's in its on state. Hope that helps. best, Slau On Mar 22, 2015, at 5:17 PM, John Gunn gu...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Slau, Great you are meeting with a programmer and here are a couple of things I have. First when selecting a click sound other then the default click, I am unable to choose for example cowbell, stick ETC. This of course is setting up a click track. Secondly and this might be user error on my part but is there a way finding the status of a track if it is set to input monitor? Tryied to bounce a session last week and message unable to bounce because of input monitor. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base on any of my feedback. John On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Slau Halatyn slauh...@gmail.com wrote: In a couple of weeks, I'm going to have a unique opportunity to sit down with a programmer to work on some accessibility issues in Pro Tools. Under the circumstances of my trip, Avid has allowed for this meeting to be scheduled barring any last minute crisis with the release of Pro Tools 12. This will be largely driven by bug submissions already within the beta system but I wanted to get a sense of what the user base is focused on day to day. My goal is to address quality-of-life issues that affect the use of Pro Tools with VoiceOver. For example, the way the inserts and, in particular, sends are displayed is simply awful. This needs to be overhauled. There are a number of such issues that can hopefully be taken care of in one marathon session of tweaks. I have a clear idea of what I personally think should be addressed but I thought I'd take the temperature of the community. What I'm asking of the list is for people to enumerate 3 to 5 things that most affect their productivity and would like to see improved. Now, I don't mean for people to suggest a different method for importing files to an existing track. That's a bigger fish to fry and the subject of a longer term solution. These are, as I said, quality-of-life issues that can be addressed quickly. Also, don't bring up issues in version 10. We're talking existing issues in version 11. Give me your top 3 or top 5 items and we'll see which seem to reveal themselves as the biggest concerns. The sooner you get those to me, the sooner I can prepare. Thanks, Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: Control surface help
Apparently, you power on the bcf by locating the fifth button from the top left, holding it down while pressing the on button. This should put it into hui mode. Unfortunately, I don't think the bcf works with plugin automation. I've not used the bcf with protools yet, but a Google search should provide more information. Sent from my iPhone On 16 Feb 2015, at 14:25, Rui Vilarinho ruia...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, whenI connect it to my Mac Pro, should I press any button to define my BCF2000 to Mackie HUI? Or, Pro Tools will recognize it automatically ? Yet, anybody recommends any tutorial using it with Pro tools 11 ? Thanks, Rui Vilarinho - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Control surface help HUI does indeed support plug-in control. Since the release of the original Mackie HUI, plug-in parameters are mapped automatically, at least with Pro Tools. Slau On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:30 AM, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: If i am not mistaken if the surface had HUI support it should be able to control plugins as well? I need to see what’s going on with RWP as i haven’t been getting those messages as of late. On Feb 15, 2015, at 5:50 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes, I agree. I don’t think they’ll drop support for HUI, but HUI doesn’t mean that you get access to plugin automation through the control surface. Anyway, I’ve posted a query about plugin automation in Reaper to the RWP mailing list, so hopefully I’ll catch you on there. Thanks. On 15 Feb 2015, at 19:48, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: I think avid has too many things that use the HUI protocol to drop support for it so quickly. That being said you do have a fair point about reaper and its why i use it myself. On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:21 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. If I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many more advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, they allow VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of their ways, and reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was a feature in PT8. The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in the next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST support, rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could previously do for free with Sonar. On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates. Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have at your disposal. On 2/15/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote: Are they still supported? We print the Bible in Braille, http://biblesfortheblind.org Keith Reedy God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units. On 2/14/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used. No box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested in buying it. HTH someone. On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote: David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be controlled by midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I have a Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI mode. I think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60 and control anything I wanted with midi. OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making money through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist control surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not sure I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that. On 14 Feb
Re: Control surface help
Oh, and it turns out that the M-Audio oxygen keyboards work with ProTools in terms of controling track volume and pan and transport, plus virtual instrument controls, but not audio plugin controls. So our options really are limited. I think Avid are trying to force you into buying their HD system or an Artist mix surface. On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates. Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have at your disposal. On 2/15/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote: Are they still supported? We print the Bible in Braille, http://biblesfortheblind.org Keith Reedy God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units. On 2/14/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used. No box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested in buying it. HTH someone. On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote: David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be controlled by midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I have a Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI mode. I think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60 and control anything I wanted with midi. OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making money through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist control surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not sure I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that. On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote: I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that much I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing with the control surface. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks for that Ricky. I've had a look on the Internet. I assume that you can't control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this is the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport allow you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume and pan? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received
Re: Control surface help
Thanks for all the help. I think I’m going to try using my BCF2000 with ProTools for track/sends volume and pan, and maybe transport controls. If I need to change a plugin, I’ll use Reaper for that. Reaper has many more advantages over ProTools when it comes to plugins; for a start, they allow VST Plugins. Maybe one day, ProTools will see the error of their ways, and reinstate the midi learn function, which apparently was a feature in PT8. The trouble with relying on an AlfaTrack or a command 8, is that I can easily foresee a time when Avid will discontinue support, possibly in the next release. So I’d rather spend £60 on Reaper and get VST support, rather than spending £200 or more to recreate what I could previously do for free with Sonar. On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:37, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, same experience here, although they're no longer being manufactured and I doubt there'll be any further driver updates. Still, for the price of one second hand, they're a neat tool to have at your disposal. On 2/15/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Worked last time I tried it yes, definitely with tools and Yosemite. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Feb 2015, at 03:32, Keith Reedy wa9...@gmail.com wrote: Are they still supported? We print the Bible in Braille, http://biblesfortheblind.org Keith Reedy God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor. On Feb 14, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the Alphatrack, they're wicked little units. On 2/14/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: As it goes, I have me an Alpha track here that I've hardly ever used. No box or anything, but the unit works perfectly if anyone's interested in buying it. HTH someone. On 14/02/2015 12:03, Matt Diemert wrote: David,, if you can get your hands on an alpha track, that would meet yourneeds. It has the ability to control plugs. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 13, 2015, at 10:21 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be controlled by midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don't know. I have a Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI mode. I think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and busfaders. At least that's a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60 and control anything I wanted with midi. OK, I'll stop moaning. I've been suckered into using ProTools - it's extremely accessible - and so I'll just have to put up with its idiosyncratic quirks, which, let's face it, are driven by making money through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist control surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not sure I'm going to earn enough from audio to justify that. On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote: I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that much I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing with the control surface. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks for that Ricky. I've had a look on the Internet. I assume that you can't control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this is the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport allow you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume and pan? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
Re: Side Chaining
Brilliant, thanks for that Kevin. I’ve got it working, thanks to the template. It turns out I didn’t have the key option enabled in the actual compressor itself. I had it enabled in the plugin, but not in the compressor perimeters. That will help me a lot, until I eventually work out how to use a control surface with PT. On 13 Feb 2015, at 14:44, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David. Here. Have a Pro Tools template I made with side chaining active on a stereo bus. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6464703/Broadcast.ptxt. You can explore the tracks and see what I did. Hope this helps. Kevin On Feb 12, 2015, at 5:32 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I’m trying to do some side chaining, but I’m not having much luck. I’ve added a compressor to a bus, I’ve then chosen the key input option in that compressor plugin window, and chose a bus. I’m a bit unsure why the bus can only be a mono bus, but anyway. I then create a send on the track that I want to affect the compressor and I set it to the bus that the compressor is on. But nothing is happening. I assume I’m doing something wrong. Thanks guys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Control surface help
Thanks for that Ricky. I’ve had a look on the Internet. I assume that you can’t control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this is the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport allow you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume and pan? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Control surface help
Alas you can not. Perhaps if the plugin parameters could be controlled by midi values then plugins might be controllable - I don’t know. I have a Beringer BCF2000 which I think works with ProTools under the HUI mode. I think this also allows me to control send faders as well as track and busfaders. At least that’s a start, but I could buy Reaper for £60 and control anything I wanted with midi. OK, I’ll stop moaning. I’ve been suckered into using ProTools - it’s extremely accessible - and so I’ll just have to put up with its idiosyncratic quirks, which, let’s face it, are driven by making money through forcing you to buy proprietary software. The Avid Artist control surfaces, which allow you to control plugins, cost over £1000. Not sure I’m going to earn enough from audio to justify that. On 14 Feb 2015, at 02:26, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote: I truly do not know have not tried. Fact is I haven't used it that much I am getting ready to. Eat Q is not something I'm going to be doing with the control surface. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Feb 13, 2015, at 8:54 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks for that Ricky. I’ve had a look on the Internet. I assume that you can’t control plugin parameters with this? It seems as if this is the case for surfaces that run in HUI mode. Does the Faderport allow you to change EQ settings for instance, or is it just track volume and pan? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Side Chaining
Hi everyone, I’m trying to do some side chaining, but I’m not having much luck. I’ve added a compressor to a bus, I’ve then chosen the key input option in that compressor plugin window, and chose a bus. I’m a bit unsure why the bus can only be a mono bus, but anyway. I then create a send on the track that I want to affect the compressor and I set it to the bus that the compressor is on. But nothing is happening. I assume I’m doing something wrong. Thanks guys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Control surface help
Hi everyone. Well, I’ve been steadily getting the hang of ProTools, so much so that I haven’t had to post a single question to the list this year. I may even be getting to the stage where I can help answer a few people’s questions. Yesterday I needed to do some automation, for which I really could do with using a control surface. I plugged in my midi keyboard, which has worked fine with ProTools for instruments and controlling plugins such as Stutter Edit. Unfortunately, it seems as if ProTools isn’t particularly accommodating when it comes to control surfaces. Apparently there is no function like the Midi Learn function, like with Sonar, where basically any midi device can be used by the user manually assigning knobs and faders to parameters. So, I suppose I’m going to have to buy a bloody control surface, which is a purchase I could do without. But it’s untenable to use ProTools without being able to automate with a control surface. I’m wondering what my options are therefore. I don’t care about motorised faders, and I don’t need a lot of faders. Two faders should be plenty, assuming that I can assign them to different parameters. Any help on this subject would be very much appreciated. In the meantime, is there any way of increasing the jump or speed of slider value changes when I use the keyboard. Interacting with a slider and using VO up or down arrow can be painfully slow at times. I thought that maybe I could use the trackpad to make more rapid slider adjustments, but it seems to work exactly the same as using VO up and down arrow. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
Likewise, thanks Kevin. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Dec 2014, at 16:20, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that tip Kevin, I will archive it. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Reeves Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:13 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Blending clips when I paste I’m late in seeing this thread, but I found an even easier way to do this. Set your nudge to 10 ms if spoken word, or about 20 ticks if in bars beats. Tab to the region you want to crossfade. Press minus once so your a bit before the clip boundary. Press command Shift Plus twice. This will start creating a selection from the curser. By pressing twice, you are extending the selection across the 2 clips. Then, Perform the crossfade. I have no control surface, and I can clean up tracks very quickly with this method. Hope this helps. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: More presets for Matt and others
Hi, it’s easy to get Stutter Edit working with Midi in Protools. Put Stutter edit on an audio track as an insert. Create a new midi track. Set the Input to your midi controler, and the output to Stutter edit. I think you need to arm the midi track so that it is record enabled. YOu can trigger the various jestures and effects with your midi keyboard. The stutters are synced to your project tempo, so you can change the tempo of your project to change the tempo of the stutters. As for Windows: I know that there is a hotspot clicker set for Stutter edit which I know you can use with Sonar, created by someone called Steve Stamer. Probably best to contact the midimag list for more information on that. I’m going to work on developing stutter edit accessibility some more using keyboard maestro. On 9 Dec 2014, at 17:33, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at Nectar 2 over on the dark side, yup, there's a lot of parameters exposed... 150 or so. Well labeled, but not real-world values, so things like the frequencies for each EQ band are a bit of a guessing game. As usual for iZotope, the actual plugin GUI is sort of accessible too, with the biggest hurdle IMO being that the folder names aren't readable in the presets browser. Individual presets are, but keeping track of which folders are open and where the ones you liked lived without folder names can be a bit of a mare. It's a pretty good plugin overall though, plenty of the stock presets have made it in to songs out of the box here. On 12/9/14, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca mailto:csma...@cogeco.ca wrote: Anyone know if the parameters are exposed on the Windows side for that one? At 03:40 AM 12/9/2014, you wrote: Hi there, Anyone happen to have the presets for the Nectar Production suite? Itâ EURO (tm)s Izotopes take on vocal processing. If i could or had access to sighted help, iâ EURO (tm)d try making them myself and contribute but as it stands now, all i can do is ask politely for them. /Krister 9 dec 2014 kl. 02:04 skrev David Eagle mailto:onlineea...@googlemail.comonlineea...@googlemail.com: and -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
Thanks slau. I understand that all perfectly. Yes, I am using shuffle mode poppa. Thanks for your help. Sent from my iPhone On 5 Dec 2014, at 04:06, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Dave, this isn't a perfect solution, but have you tried to use shuffle mode \rather than grid mode? Shuffle mode allows the deleted portion of audio to be filled by sliding the remaining audio together. I have went through an hour long voice over session rather quickly using this, taking out a lot of Hmms, uhs, and other useless gibber. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:08 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Blending clips when I paste Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the two clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the other. I assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is dimmed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pitch Correction
Hotspot clicker is only a Windows thing. It works with JAWS screen reader. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Dec 2014, at 23:04, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Ooh la la, is that hotspot set specific to Sonar Chris? On 12/4/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Waves Tune and Auto Tune, I do not believe that Melodyne is accessible as of yet, but I could be wrong. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 10:41 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Pitch Correction Hi folks. What are people using for pitch correction under ProTools? I'm still a Sonar guy and am about to move from an old version of Autotune to Melodyne Assistant, now that someone has come up with a hotspot set for it. I'm just curious if you have access to a version of Melodyne on the Mac side. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Heads-up with plugins
Matt, the only ones that aren’t in that list that I’ve done are the Trueverb and audio track, so feel free to add those to the list. There in the folder I sent yesterday. On 5 Dec 2014, at 16:18, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Chuck, I want to say some of 8 and 9. I received several from you about two years ago. I hope that it is not a problem. I talked to Matt this morning and he was concerned about putting them up on the Pro Tools with speech Site after I told him that many came from you. I think that he is on hold with posting them. What are your thoughts? From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:45 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins Wow thats a big waves collection! What bundle is that? Chuck YMMV On Dec 4, 2014, at 6:56 PM, David Eagle wrote: Ah, great news Poppa. onlineea...@gmail.com mailto:onlineea...@gmail.com Thanks. On 4 Dec 2014, at 23:20, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Dave What is your email so I can add to the collection. I have the presets for about 50 or so waves plugins. I hope I can get them to you and beef up the repository. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:54 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins OK, try giving these a spin, Christopher and anyone else. In this folder are presets for three waves Plugins: L1 Ultramaximizer, AudioTrack and TrueVerb. I assume that you import them by launching the plugin, then in the plugin window VO Space where it says FXPISettings Command Popup. Then activate the import settings option and select the relevant plugin subfolder, found in the folder I’m attaching to this email. HOPe it works. Let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Can keyboard Maestro help me with this?
Just wondering, did you get anywhere with this Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 23 Sep 2014, at 14:03, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Ah, looking forward to what you find. Got a couple of plugs i want to do presets for. One is XLN Audios electric grand from the addictive keys series, one of the best Yamaha CP70-s out there and the other one is Izotopes Nectar Production suite. Going to be interesting to see what you find. /Krister 23 sep 2014 kl. 14:58 skrev Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com: Hi Krister, KM is certainly capable of performing the click but you'd have to know where to perform it, at least for the time you're creating the macro. More important, however, is that the browser that pops up isn't accessible. Most of those proprietary browsers don't use the Apple framework. It might be possible to use first letter navigation in cases like that but I'm not sure. I'll be looking into this in a couple of days and I'll let people know what I find. Slau On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hi there, I've just done as Slau suggested and bought the Keyboard maestro app. It seems very complex and very powerful and that's good. Now i wonder about one thing: Since i don't have any sighted assistance around i wonder if KM could be triggered to open the menu or dialog or whatever it is that you open if you want to load a preset that's not in the librarian so i can save them into .tfx format and if that even is possible because of accessibility reasons, i mean it could be that the plugs have non-standard open dialogs like Arturias plugs have? What say those who are used to KM, am i asking for too much again? /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: can not delete audio
I've been having the same issue. When I load a new project I select my track and then make a selection. The selection definitely has been made. But when I try to delete the audio, nothing happens. Cut and paste are also dimmed. The only way I've managed to get it working is to interact with the tracklist table and just to press control semi colon. I seen to remember that this changes the tracks selected. After this. The delete function works. I have no idea why. DSent from my iPhone On 4 Dec 2014, at 14:48, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote: hi again. well here’s the go. i’ve brought up the item chooser in the edit window, and it says wav form. so it looks like that is fine. not sure if there is anything else i should be checking. I’m actually wondering if i still have issues with protools that have not been entirely resolved from the glitch i had the other day. what are your thoughts there. Think popper bear thought about a couple of things in the option menu i should have a look at. what are they exactly. Anything else worth looking at. Steve On 4 Dec 2014, at 11:29 pm, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, In the Edit window, bring up the item chooser and type wave. That should narrow your choices to the display button that should say waveform. If you don't see this button, there are two possible explanations, actually three but one of those would be that you have no tracks being displayed and I doubt that's the case. The second is that your display is set to something like volume so the word waveform would not be displayed. Bring up the item chooser and type mute. If you can find the mute button, move focus to the next control and it'll be something other than waveform but will surely be at least something. Click on that button and select waveform. The third possibility is that your track height is insufficient to display the full names of the buttons. With the track selected, press Control-up arrow twice then perform the steps with the item chooser. Chances are the button is displaying something other than waveform if cutting, pasting and deleting isn't working. Slau On Dec 4, 2014, at 1:51 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote: ok can you tell me where i would find this. Steve On 4 Dec 2014, at 3:17 pm, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: First thing I'd look at in the Edit window would be to see whether you changed the track display to show Volume or some other information rather than waveform. Make sure you're displaying the waveform or else you won't be deleting audio but rather some other thing like pan automation, send level, mute automation or something similar. HTH, Slau On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:05 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote: Ok, what have i done this time. i’m trying to delete some audio from a project. for some reason i can’t seem to delete anything. I had this all working before. Basically i’ve gone in to the edit window, and interacted with the track list table. I’ve located the tracks i want and hit v o space to select them. when i look at them the tracks say selected. then i’ve just used my up and down arrow to make my selection. when i press space my selection plays no problem. but when i hit delete nothing seems to happen, the audio remains. What have i missed now. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: cannot delete audio
Just to correct my last message. I seemingly have to navigate to the track below the one I want to change, and hit control and P. Then the track above will delete. I’m only working with one audio track in my files at the moment. I have three tracks in my project. A blank audio track, a master fader track, and a track with some audio on. I cannot delete the audio unless I navigate to the track below and press control P. No idea why. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
More Waves Plugin Presets
I’ve added presets for the c1 comp Gate plugin. So in the folder now is the L1 Ultramaximizer, Trueverb and C1 Comp Gate. I believe these are the version 9 waves plugins. HOpe this helps someone. Download the folder here. http://davideagle.co.uk/wp-admin/podcasts/WaveShell%20AAX/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: cannot delete audio
Thanks Matt, always nice to know it’s not just me going mad. I suppose the other solution could be to just add more tracks. I’ll give that a go in my next project. I’m only doing basic editing at the moment on one audio track. Thanks to this list and your excellent tutorials I have got up and running quite fast. I’ve sent a link to some Waves Plugin Presets which you are welcome to add to your site. On 4 Dec 2014, at 16:44, Matt Diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen this happen quite often and ProTools version 11. It does not happen at all and 10, and if I have multiple tracks in a project more than five or six, it typically behaves as expected. My workaround is exactly what David has described here. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2014, at 11:38 AM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to correct my last message. I seemingly have to navigate to the track below the one I want to change, and hit control and P. Then the track above will delete. I’m only working with one audio track in my files at the moment. I have three tracks in my project. A blank audio track, a master fader track, and a track with some audio on. I cannot delete the audio unless I navigate to the track below and press control P. No idea why. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: More Waves Plugin Presets
Sorry Matt, I forgot that you can't download folders without going into FTP. I shall zip them for you. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Dec 2014, at 17:29, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote: David, Any possible way you could zip these up for me? Unless I'm missing something, it looks like I'd have to d/l each individual tfx file from the link you provided. On 12/4/14, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: I've added presets for the c1 comp Gate plugin. So in the folder now is the L1 Ultramaximizer, Trueverb and C1 Comp Gate. I believe these are the version 9 waves plugins. HOpe this helps someone. Download the folder here. http://davideagle.co.uk/wp-admin/podcasts/WaveShell%20AAX/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Warm Regards: Matt Diemert 330-980-0046 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: can not delete audio
Thanks for that Slau, very helpful as ever. What I liked about Sonar was that I could make a start selection, press space bar to stop audio, then skip forward quickly into another part of the project, then make an end selection. Pressing space bar would not get rid of my start selection point. This was very useful, especially for the work I do which is largely with speech. I also liked the fact that the space bar would essentially pause the audio, whereas in PT, the space bar starts playback at the selection point. There doesn’t seem to be a way of pausing playback and restarting from where I stopped. The closest I can get to recreating this is to press number 2 on the numeric keypad, which stops playback and moves the project on about half a second. The only way to be able to make a selection where I select a start point, stop the audio and move through the file quickly and then restart playback and make an end selection, is to unlink timeline and edit selection and track and edit selection. But you and others seem to warn against this. I don’t know whether there are anyways to do this. I suppose I could use markers to get past the issue of PT unselecting my audio whenever I change position and press the space bar. Sorry to be contrary. I’m just trying to get used to doing quick audio editing in PT, and it doesn’t seem practical to have to sit and wait for the part of the project to come along when I want to make my end selection point. I know that I want to cut the next minute of audio, so I don’t need to listen to it, I need to get to my end point quickly. Thanks for you patients and help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: can not delete audio
Brilliant Slau. That works perfectly. Thanks so much for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Dec 2014, at 20:38, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: David, Control-n toggles the insertion following playback or not. Simple. Further, if you have an in point, why not split the region? Command-e will split the region where the insertion is. Then you can get to anywhere in the timeline by pressing asterisk on the num pad, entering the value and pressing enter. When you get to where you want to make the out point, pause the transport, press Option-Tab while holding down the Shift key to select to the previous region boundary (which would be the place where you split the region and that's it. If you need to select across multiple regions, just press those commands multiple times and you should be good. Slau On Dec 4, 2014, at 3:31 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks for that Slau, very helpful as ever. What I liked about Sonar was that I could make a start selection, press space bar to stop audio, then skip forward quickly into another part of the project, then make an end selection. Pressing space bar would not get rid of my start selection point. This was very useful, especially for the work I do which is largely with speech. I also liked the fact that the space bar would essentially pause the audio, whereas in PT, the space bar starts playback at the selection point. There doesn’t seem to be a way of pausing playback and restarting from where I stopped. The closest I can get to recreating this is to press number 2 on the numeric keypad, which stops playback and moves the project on about half a second. The only way to be able to make a selection where I select a start point, stop the audio and move through the file quickly and then restart playback and make an end selection, is to unlink timeline and edit selection and track and edit selection. But you and others seem to warn against this. I don’t know whether there are anyways to do this. I suppose I could use markers to get past the issue of PT unselecting my audio whenever I change position and press the space bar. Sorry to be contrary. I’m just trying to get used to doing quick audio editing in PT, and it doesn’t seem practical to have to sit and wait for the part of the project to come along when I want to make my end selection point. I know that I want to cut the next minute of audio, so I don’t need to listen to it, I need to get to my end point quickly. Thanks for you patients and help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Blending clips when I paste
Hi, I’ve searched the Internet for this but to no avail. When I paste a clip over another clip, the original clip is replaced by the new one. But I’d like to have the old and new clip play together. I’d basically like to have the two clips on the same track playing together rather than one replacing the other. I assumed that paste special might allow me to do this, but it is dimmed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: cannot delete audio
I use a control surface now and again. But in the main I am working away from a static studio set up, so I'm just using the Mac. I'm not quite sure about the accuracy of selecting audio with the voice-over key and Space bar. It's difficult for me to tell the moment; I've only worked on a couple of projects so far with ProTools 11. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Dec 2014, at 21:34, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: So VO/Space does not work to select the track when you are on it? Do either of you have a control surface? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 7:39 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: cannot delete audio Just to correct my last message. I seemingly have to navigate to the track below the one I want to change, and hit control and P. Then the track above will delete. I’m only working with one audio track in my files at the moment. I have three tracks in my project. A blank audio track, a master fader track, and a track with some audio on. I cannot delete the audio unless I navigate to the track below and press control P. No idea why. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Heads-up with plugins
Ah, great news Poppa. onlineea...@gmail.com mailto:onlineea...@gmail.com Thanks. On 4 Dec 2014, at 23:20, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Dave What is your email so I can add to the collection. I have the presets for about 50 or so waves plugins. I hope I can get them to you and beef up the repository. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:54 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins OK, try giving these a spin, Christopher and anyone else. In this folder are presets for three waves Plugins: L1 Ultramaximizer, AudioTrack and TrueVerb. I assume that you import them by launching the plugin, then in the plugin window VO Space where it says FXPISettings Command Popup. Then activate the import settings option and select the relevant plugin subfolder, found in the folder I’m attaching to this email. HOPe it works. Let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
Thanks Slau. A bit of a shame. I have a piece of audio that I want to make very precise edits on. Some of the edits won’t work if I just do a crude delete in shuffle mode. In Sonar I would delete the portion of audio I didn’t want, then cut the bit after that portion, and paste it over the top of the end of the previous section, and the two bits of audio would seamlessly crossfade, and you’d never know they had been edited. This has been a technique I’ve used for years, and assumed it was a staple part of editing speech. Say you have a piece of audio that says: “I am trying to … er … learn … ProTools.” I don’t want the ‘ers.’ Now I could just delete them, except this sentence has been recorded in the street and there is the sound of traffic, and so you’d hear the shift in the ambient sound if I just did a crude delete, and it wouldn’t sound natural. It would be an obvious bad edit. So you need to blend the two clips and crossfade them. So you delete an, er, and then take the portion of audio after it, cut it, and paste it over the top of the last second or so of the previous bit, giving you a lovely crossfade and a seamless edit. To do the equivalent of this in PT, it seems as if I’ll have to create a bus, because I’m unfortunately going to be working with multiple tracks, since I can’t do this track merge technique, and I need the same EQ and compression settings to be in play for both tracks. Then I’ll have to delete the piece of audio I don’t want, cut the bit after it, paste it onto a new track, apply a fade out on the first track, then apply a fade in on the second track. As you can see, that’s quite a few more steps. I don’t mind if this is what I need to do, but I thought I’d explain my reasoning for wanting to do it in case you or anyone else can think of a quicker way of doing this. Oh dear, I am demanding aren’t I? I’m really getting the hang of ProTools, and I have read the manual cursorily, and I’ve listened to the PT with speech tutorials, but I’ve used Sonar for about ten years, and I was lightning fast on the thing. So I’m just trying to migrate my knowledge over to PT. Sorry for all the questions, and thank you again for your patients and help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Heads-up with plugins
Good point Chris. However, it would be handy if you could email them to me too Poppa, because it seems pointless me creating presets for plugins that you might already have presets for. On 5 Dec 2014, at 00:27, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I think Matt Diemert is the one you'd want to contact to send the presets to. He's the one hosting the repo. mcdiem...@gmail.com mailto:mcdiem...@gmail.com --- Christopher Gilland Phone: 704-594-2225 E-mail: clgillan...@gmail.com mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com Web site: http://www.clgproductions.com http://www.clgproductions.com/ Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chris28210 http://www.facebook.com/chris28210 Skype: chris28210 IMessage/Facetime: cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com mailto:cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com Zello: clgproductions and: christablet123 Please kindly, add both, if you don't mind. - Original Message - From: Poppa Bear mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 6:20 PM Subject: RE: Heads-up with plugins Dave What is your email so I can add to the collection. I have the presets for about 50 or so waves plugins. I hope I can get them to you and beef up the repository. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:54 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins OK, try giving these a spin, Christopher and anyone else. In this folder are presets for three waves Plugins: L1 Ultramaximizer, AudioTrack and TrueVerb. I assume that you import them by launching the plugin, then in the plugin window VO Space where it says FXPISettings Command Popup. Then activate the import settings option and select the relevant plugin subfolder, found in the folder I’m attaching to this email. HOPe it works. Let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Blending clips when I paste
OK, that is very simple. It’s a very different way of working, but it seems to work and I suppose once I get used to it then it should work just as good. Thanks again Slau. I’ll give you the weekend off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Heads-up with plugins
Thanks for your help Poppa. Great news about being able to export and import presets. Fear not, Christopher. I’ll happily get some presets to you tonight so that you can have a look at them in the studio. I’ve saved a few presets for the L1 Ultramaximiser and TrueVerb. Ideally, we could get our hands on the presets that are already out there, rather than me having to ask my girlfriend to go through them all. Are there any plugins you’re particularly keen to have a look at Christopher? I have the gold bundle, so I can do anything in that. Obviously I’ll make these available to the entire list. I also worked out how to do automation. I didn’t realise that you had to interact with the plugin widnow at the bottom of the screen. Everything is working perfectly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Heads-up with plugins
OK, well I’ve done the L1 Ultramaximiser, which is a great plugin for mastering. Can someone tell me how to export the settings file? I’ve saved each individual setting, but now I need to export them so that I can send the file. Thanks On 2 Dec 2014, at 14:18, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: David, The situation is, firstly, I'll gladly take the presets you can send me, but here's the deal. I need as many of them as I can get, as I'm not sure which ones I'll wind up using in the final mix. I've not really played much with any of the waves stuff. It's therefore hard to say what I'll wind up using. So at this time, there really are not any particularly that I'm interested in specifically. The studio I'm going to clames to have all of them. They clame they spent literally over 2 grand for all of them. -- Christopher Gilland Phone: 704-594-2225 E-mail: clgillan...@gmail.com Web site: http://www.clgproductions.com Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chris28210 Skype: chris28210 IMessage/Facetime: cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com Zello: clgproductions and: christablet123 Please kindly, add both, if you don't mind. - Original Message - From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 8:26 AM Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins Thanks for your help Poppa. Great news about being able to export and import presets. Fear not, Christopher. I’ll happily get some presets to you tonight so that you can have a look at them in the studio. I’ve saved a few presets for the L1 Ultramaximiser and TrueVerb. Ideally, we could get our hands on the presets that are already out there, rather than me having to ask my girlfriend to go through them all. Are there any plugins you’re particularly keen to have a look at Christopher? I have the gold bundle, so I can do anything in that. Obviously I’ll make these available to the entire list. I also worked out how to do automation. I didn’t realise that you had to interact with the plugin widnow at the bottom of the screen. Everything is working perfectly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Heads-up with plugins
I’ve been looking for the MoveMouse file, but to no avail. Could you resend the attachment Chuck. Also, this could be a good application to put on the ProTools with Speech website. On 2 Dec 2014, at 01:56, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Ahoy List? Has anybody tried move Mouse with plugins that are not VoiceOver friendly? I just started using it on pt 11 and so far its getting to uncharted Places so to speak! :) Also has any body installed move mouse on snow leopard? I think it should work but not sure? TIA Chuck Remember; Behind every creative mix, Theres also the CREATOR! CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/ 954-742-0019 Isaiah 26 : 3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. In GOD I Trust On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Hey Ricky, did you ever come across that Trail Guide to the Body? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricky Prevatte Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins Does anyone know if that preset list is transferable?if it would be we could get a group together by the presets have someone to load them and use that transferable list. I guess that would be not possible just wishful thinking. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Hello David, you should be able to go to the parameter that you would like to change and then Simply interact with that parameter by using the interact command which would be VO/Shift/Down arrow and then you could change that particular setting. As far as the waves presets, there are some people on this list who have taken a lot hours to compile many presets to a lot of the waves plugins. Perhaps somebody will care to share them with you along with the instructions to load them up. The second way is to have sighted help. In Waves it has its own preset load button and voice over cannot activate it. A sighted person would have to click on that load button and then make a selection from the lists of presets and then load it. Once the preset is loaded you can go to the settings button in the plugin window and click save and it will be saved in Protools native preset list. HTH -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:05 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Headsup with plugins Hi friends, I’ve finally got PT11 up and running. I’m a bit confused when it comes to using plugins. I’ve inserted a multi channel plugin on track 1. Depending on the plugin I can see the various presets. Let’s take something that I assume to be accessible like the 3-7 band EQ that comes pre-installed. I can select a preset absolutely fine, but I don’t seem to be able to work out how to see the automation perimeters. I can activate the plugin automation button and find a list of automatable parameters, but then I can’t change these. How is this achieved please? My second question is to do with those plugins that do not have their presets exposed to VoiceOver. For instance, I can’t choose any presets in the waves plugins. I believe there is a way of saving a preset file with sighted help? Thanks for your help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: Heads-up with plugins
Thanks Chuck. Forgive my ignorance, but I have ran the four work flow instalation files. When I go into a plugin in ProTools and go into services, and select one of the mouse move options, I get a message saying that there is a shell script error. I’m not really sure how to work Move Mouse. On 2 Dec 2014, at 16:44, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Here ya go. :) The short time I've been using Move Mouse its great once you know where the hidden treasure is located. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. MoveMouseDistribution_1.1.zip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. MoveMouse_Installation_Instructions_License.rtf Could somebody try it on an older os? Like snow Leopard and ML? TIA Talk soon YMMV Chuck Remember; Behind every creative mix, Theres also the CREATOR! On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:22 AM, David Eagle wrote: I’ve been looking for the MoveMouse file, but to no avail. Could you resend the attachment Chuck. Also, this could be a good application to put on the ProTools with Speech website. On 2 Dec 2014, at 01:56, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Ahoy List? Has anybody tried move Mouse with plugins that are not VoiceOver friendly? I just started using it on pt 11 and so far its getting to uncharted Places so to speak! :) Also has any body installed move mouse on snow leopard? I think it should work but not sure? TIA Chuck Remember; Behind every creative mix, Theres also the CREATOR! CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/ 954-742-0019 Isaiah 26 : 3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. In GOD I Trust On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Hey Ricky, did you ever come across that Trail Guide to the Body? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricky Prevatte Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins Does anyone know if that preset list is transferable?if it would be we could get a group together by the presets have someone to load them and use that transferable list. I guess that would be not possible just wishful thinking. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: Hello David, you should be able to go to the parameter that you would like to change and then Simply interact with that parameter by using the interact command which would be VO/Shift/Down arrow and then you could change that particular setting. As far as the waves presets, there are some people on this list who have taken a lot hours to compile many presets to a lot of the waves plugins. Perhaps somebody will care to share them with you along with the instructions to load them up. The second way is to have sighted help. In Waves it has its own preset load button and voice over cannot activate it. A sighted person would have to click on that load button and then make a selection from the lists of presets and then load it. Once the preset is loaded you can go to the settings button in the plugin window and click save and it will be saved in Protools native preset list. HTH -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Eagle Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:05 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Headsup with plugins Hi friends, I’ve finally got PT11 up and running. I’m a bit confused when it comes to using plugins. I’ve inserted a multi channel plugin on track 1. Depending on the plugin I can see the various presets. Let’s take something that I assume to be accessible like the 3-7 band EQ that comes pre-installed. I can select a preset absolutely fine, but I
Re: Heads-up with plugins
Hi Slau, I’ve found the TFX files. There all in one Waves folder, even though there are multiple plugins represented. This is obviously fine for my personal use, but I was wondering for distribution purposes if it would be better for me to create subfolders for each plugin, so that people can easily download the plugin settings that are applicable to them? Would doing this confuse ProTools when I go to load the plugins? Regarding Move Mouse: there doesn’t seem to be a ReadMe file in the atachment I’ve been sent. I get some UNIX file that opens in terminal, and then the four work flow instalation files. On 2 Dec 2014, at 18:18, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Go to your Documents folder, find the Pro Tools folder, find the Plug-in Settings folder. Inside the Plug-in Settings folder you'll find sub folders for each plug-in. within each folder are .tfx files which are the presets. HTH, Slau On Dec 2, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Me onlineea...@googlemail.com mailto:onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Great, thanks Chuck. As soon as someone let me know how to export my preset files, EyeWill send them. Sent from my iPod On 2 Dec 2014, at 17:26, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Slau would probably be more precise on this but heres what I know. You half to make a keyboard short cut for each mouse move, IE move down move up so forth. In system preferences go to keyboard then shortcuts then the services tab. its under the services tab that you put in the short cut key commands. Slau my self are using shift control command in conjunction with the arrows. If I want to move the mouse to the right I hit shift control command right arrow and move mouse confirms the move for each 1/10 of a inch. HTH Chuck On Dec 2, 2014, at 12:09 PM, David Eagle wrote: Thanks Chuck. Forgive my ignorance, but I have ran the four work flow instalation files. When I go into a plugin in ProTools and go into services, and select one of the mouse move options, I get a message saying that there is a shell script error. I’m not really sure how to work Move Mouse. On 2 Dec 2014, at 16:44, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Here ya go. :) The short time I've been using Move Mouse its great once you know where the hidden treasure is located. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. MoveMouseDistribution_1.1.zip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. MoveMouse_Installation_Instructions_License.rtf Could somebody try it on an older os? Like snow Leopard and ML? TIA Talk soon YMMV Chuck Remember; Behind every creative mix, Theres also the CREATOR! On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:22 AM, David Eagle wrote: I’ve been looking for the MoveMouse file, but to no avail. Could you resend the attachment Chuck. Also, this could be a good application to put on the ProTools with Speech website. On 2 Dec 2014, at 01:56, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Ahoy List? Has anybody tried move Mouse with plugins that are not VoiceOver friendly? I just started using it on pt 11 and so far its getting to uncharted Places so to speak! :) Also has any body installed move mouse on snow leopard? I think it should work but not sure? TIA Chuck Remember; Behind every creative mix, Theres also the CREATOR! CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/ 954-742-0019 Isaiah 26 : 3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. In GOD I Trust On Dec 1, 2014, at 8:29 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Hey Ricky, did you ever come across that Trail Guide to the Body? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricky Prevatte Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 4:24 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Heads-up with plugins Does anyone know
Headsup with plugins
Hi friends, I’ve finally got PT11 up and running. I’m a bit confused when it comes to using plugins. I’ve inserted a multi channel plugin on track 1. Depending on the plugin I can see the various presets. Let’s take something that I assume to be accessible like the 3-7 band EQ that comes pre-installed. I can select a preset absolutely fine, but I don’t seem to be able to work out how to see the automation perimeters. I can activate the plugin automation button and find a list of automatable parameters, but then I can’t change these. How is this achieved please? My second question is to do with those plugins that do not have their presets exposed to VoiceOver. For instance, I can’t choose any presets in the waves plugins. I believe there is a way of saving a preset file with sighted help? Thanks for your help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager?
Thanks Gordon, I wasn't concerned about security, I was just wondering whether it was an option, but I think it will be a lot easier just to get a friend to do it in this instance. These sighted people do have their uses sometimes. A bit of a pain though. I often think that one of the reasons companies are slow or uninterested to make things accessible might be because they are not aware of how many people the issue actually affects. It's almost as if we should be using mailing lists like this to send a joint email to the companies. Or a petition. Nothing too heavy handed, just to make our voices heard. Power in numbers, and all that. Sent from my iPhone On 26 Nov 2014, at 20:54, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: They actually controled my computer. I had to install a little program and give them an access code so they could get into it. I trust the guys at sweetwater because I've been dealing with them for a long time. Waves also did it for me. It's not a security risk if that's what you are concerned about, and it saves me a boatload of time and anguish. Gord -Original Message- From: David Eagle Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:43 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager? Hi Gordon, when you say someone did it for you remotely, do you mean they remotely controlled your computer, or did they manage to just do it for you without remotely controlling your computer? If the latter, then I may look into that, otherwise I’ll just wait for a friend to help me. Thanks. On 26 Nov 2014, at 07:28, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: Hi: You probably could have someone from avid support do the authorization for you remotely. I had gotten my pt11 from sweetwater and they did it for me in a jiffy. Now that doesn't let ilok off the hook. I have managed to stumble through it on windows with a combination of NVDA and Jaws ocr, but it's really hit or miss and I'm always afraid I'm going to mess something up. Gord -Original Message- From: Chris Smart Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:10 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager? they're apparently still working on it *sigh* Luckily for the sighted help, the process is not difficult. In my case, I recently picked up Eiosis Air EQ and some more things from Slate Digital. In both cases, you get a license redeem code. Run the iLok License manager, log in with your iLok account name and password, and I suggest you have someone click the box to remember this in future to speed things up. On the left of the screen are your locations which can accept licenses. Usually this is the name of your computer and any attached iLok's which are detected. On the right-hand side of the screen are all your licenses. Clicking on a destination on the left may simplify the list on the right for your sighted help by only showing which licenses are on that attached iLok. There are four buttons on screen for doing things like redeeming licenses, copying licenses, etc. You only see text which identifies what each button does when you hover over them with the mouse. So don't do what I did and ask your help to look for redeem or activate, because they won't see that until the mouse is on the buttons. Find the redeem button and click it, then paste in the long code you got with your plug-in. Next, a destination dialog pops up and you simply click on the name of your iLok. That's it. It irritates me to no end that we can't do this ourselves, since really, it's nothing more than a copy and paste operation. Chris At 10:33 AM 11/25/2014, you wrote: Is the Ilok Manager still not accessible? I've not had a need to try it in quite some time, but here in the next couple months, there are some plugins that I really highly am considerring either purchasing, or asking for for Christmas. The only thing is, they use ILok. My mom has very very gladly agreed to help me get things transferred if needed, bless her heart, but it really would be nice if I didn't have to rely on her each time I need something done. I know we were working closely with Pace Antipiracy, so was just wonderring how responsive they're being, if any. I'm not saying I've totally lost all hope, as I most certainly haven't. This however said, I really really think we need to continue letting them know how crutially important this is! When PT 11 was first released, I understand that they had a lot of things on their plate at that time, as they needed to be sure that licensing worked in general with the new PT 11, which I'm sure behind the scenes took quite some time and testing. Let's be 100 percent fair. They had bigger things on them at that time than to really worry right then about accessibility issues. I'm not saying that it's an excuse
Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager?
If slau thinks that it's not a good idea, then I hardly feel qualified to go against that. I just thought it would help show them that there is a number of us effected by this. I was not thinking of anything confrontational. But I'd be at pains to go against slau, who has so much more success and experience at making positive inroads with software companies about accessibility than I do. Guess we'll just have to keep exploiting those sighted folks. I say we give it another year, and if nothing has changed then we start a campaign of blinding the management of pace. Sounds like a common sense plan to me. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Nov 2014, at 19:07, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slau definitely says not to do anything yet. I dono... Slau's always been so good with increasing accessibility with these things, I hate just not trusting him with this. I do trust him, believe me I do, but I must say that a part of me is very very sceptical. --- Christopher Gilland Phone: 704-594-2225 E-mail: clgillan...@gmail.com Web site: http://www.clgproductions.com Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chris28210 Skype: chris28210 IMessage/Facetime: cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com Zello: clgproductions and: christablet123 Please kindly, add both, if you don't mind. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 2:00 PM Subject: Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager? sure, I'll definitely sign. Does anybody have the text of Kevin's petition or an equally well-written one to use as a model? The tone of these things is so important. At 08:07 AM 11/27/2014, you wrote: Well, If you all would be willing to sign it, I'll go ahead and start a patition. Hey, Kevin and Slau did it back in the days with Digidesign, and hey! it worked! Look at how much accessibility we now have in PT! --- Christopher Gilland Phone: 704-594-2225 E-mail: clgillan...@gmail.com Web site: http://www.clgproductions.com Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chris28210 Skype: chris28210 IMessage/Facetime: cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com Zello: clgproductions and: christablet123 Please kindly, add both, if you don't mind. - Original Message - From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 5:43 AM Subject: Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager? Thanks Gordon, I wasn't concerned about security, I was just wondering whether it was an option, but I think it will be a lot easier just to get a friend to do it in this instance. These sighted people do have their uses sometimes. A bit of a pain though. I often think that one of the reasons companies are slow or uninterested to make things accessible might be because they are not aware of how many people the issue actually affects. It's almost as if we should be using mailing lists like this to send a joint email to the companies. Or a petition. Nothing too heavy handed, just to make our voices heard. Power in numbers, and all that. Sent from my iPhone On 26 Nov 2014, at 20:54, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: They actually controled my computer. I had to install a little program and give them an access code so they could get into it. I trust the guys at sweetwater because I've been dealing with them for a long time. Waves also did it for me. It's not a security risk if that's what you are concerned about, and it saves me a boatload of time and anguish. Gord -Original Message- From: David Eagle Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 7:43 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager? Hi Gordon, when you say someone did it for you remotely, do you mean they remotely controlled your computer, or did they manage to just do it for you without remotely controlling your computer? If the latter, then I may look into that, otherwise I’ll just wait for a friend to help me. Thanks. On 26 Nov 2014, at 07:28, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: Hi: You probably could have someone from avid support do the authorization for you remotely. I had gotten my pt11 from sweetwater and they did it for me in a jiffy. Now that doesn't let ilok off the hook. I have managed to stumble through it on windows with a combination of NVDA and Jaws ocr, but it's really hit or miss and I'm always afraid I'm going to mess something up. Gord -Original Message- From: Chris Smart Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:10 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager? they're apparently still working on it *sigh* Luckily for the sighted help, the process is not difficult. In my case, I
Trying to download the PT11 upgrade which I've paid for.
Hi, I’ve paid for the Pt11 upgrade and I’m at the stage where I need to fill out some survey about how often I use ProTools. I’ve filled out the survey, but the field marked Purchase Date does not allow me to enter text into it. I cannot skip this step seemingly, and when I click on the complete registration link, nothing happens. So I’m now unable to download ProTools 11, simply because they want me to fill out a pointless survey which is inaccessible. I’m just wondering if anyone else encountered this issue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Where are we as far as the ILok Manager?
Very diplomatically put, Chris. I’m currently having an issue registering PT11, but when I get this issue sorted, the next issue I’m probably going to have is authorising the product on my ILOK. We’ll see how that goes when I attempt it. On 25 Nov 2014, at 15:33, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Ilok Manager still not accessible? I've not had a need to try it in quite some time, but here in the next couple months, there are some plugins that I really highly am considerring either purchasing, or asking for for Christmas. The only thing is, they use ILok. My mom has very very gladly agreed to help me get things transferred if needed, bless her heart, but it really would be nice if I didn't have to rely on her each time I need something done. I know we were working closely with Pace Antipiracy, so was just wonderring how responsive they're being, if any. I'm not saying I've totally lost all hope, as I most certainly haven't. This however said, I really really think we need to continue letting them know how crutially important this is! When PT 11 was first released, I understand that they had a lot of things on their plate at that time, as they needed to be sure that licensing worked in general with the new PT 11, which I'm sure behind the scenes took quite some time and testing. Let's be 100 percent fair. They had bigger things on them at that time than to really worry right then about accessibility issues. I'm not saying that it's an excuse to totally deny accessible access. Please please please! don't misread what I am trying here to say. All I'm saying is, it took a back seat. And, you know, ok, that's fair. They did indeed have other things they had to deal with. I'm very much willing to respect that fact. Actually, I'm willing to respect it more than I initially anticipated that I would be. This said however, we're a fair ways now into the 11.X cycle. I'm not exactly sure what the most recent 11 build is, Last I knew, I think it was like, 11.2, wasn't it? Anyway, point is, I think they've had some time now to probably settle a bit down with stuff. Again, don't misinterpret what I'm trying here to convey. I'm not saying that accessibility shouldn't be a priority. It should be! I just wonder if we're at a stable enough point where we can start contacting them again to figure out what is going on, and make sure they've not forgotten us. I love ProTools, but this is the one pet peeve that I have which really irritates me to absolutely no end! Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Using my Mac's internal sound card
HI, I’m needing to do some recording in Protools today, but I only have my Mac with me and no external sound card. I don’t seem to be able to select an input in ProTools. I’ve gone in to the input output options in the stup menu but all the options seemed dimmed, and there doesn’t seem to be anyway to get my internal sound card’s input to show. I’ve done a little search on the Internet, and it talks about selecting ProTools aggregate device, which I’ve done in system preferences under the input and output options. It doesn’t seem to make a difference. I’ve tried selecting the built-in input in the audio midi setup, but it says there is no device. I’ve managed to do this in Reaper in the past, so there is definitely nothing wrong with the internal sound card. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Solved my previous question about inputs
Having a play in the input output window: I created a new stereo input path and then pressed the default button. This seems to have worked. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: pausing a session in tools.
Ah, thanks for the tip on toggling the follow insertion option on and off. This will speed things up massively.. Sent from my iPhone On 30 Oct 2014, at 21:29, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, Just a little advisory on insertion following playback: Most of the time, a blind user will want to audition where the insertion is by quickly pressing the space bar just to hear what's being played. Also, when making a selection, playing the selection is a quick way of knowing what's in the edit range. When insertion is following playback, any selection you've made is instantly lost because the insertion point will override the selection range. As John said, your workflow might be well suited for insertion following playback but keep in mind that you will inevitably find yourself in a situation where you want to hear the selection just to make sure and you'll have to remember to press Control-n to toggle insertion to not follow playback. To further complicate things, there are audition shortcuts (actually several of them) that can help confirm the selection beginning and end or what precedes or follows the selection by the pre and post roll values so you might want to check out those shortcuts when it comes time to verify selections before performing actions like editing or processing. cheers, Slau On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Steve Sparrow i...@sparrowsound.com.au wrote: certainly does. thanks Steve On 30 Oct 2014, at 11:19 pm, John André Lium-Netland eml...@a-pro-studio.no wrote: Hi Steve, You can do this several ways, depending on your preferred work flow or preferences. You can select to have the insertion point follow playback, in that case you will play from where you stopped. There is a setting for this in the edit window. If you have an extended keyboard and make sure you have turned audio scrubing off in the preferences, you will stop playback by pressing 1 or 2 on your numberic pad, and this will also set the insert point here. In other situations you’ll prefer to use down arrow for in point and up arrow for out point while you are playing, and PT will play this segment when you stop and press play again. Hope this helps you! Best, John André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How to quickly move through audio
Hi, I've got an hour long recording loaded into ProTools. I want to quickly jump into the audio by about five minutes. Is there a way to quickly do this? I don't seem to be able to find a jump to time option anywhere. Also, is there a way I can change the speed of the rewind and fast forward so that it skips through the project quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to quickly move through audio
That's great, thanks for all your help. I'm currently working on podcast material, rather than music. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On 12 Oct 2014, at 23:24, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, You can use asterisk on the num pad to go to anywhere in the timeline. Remember to type in the correct format (i.e. bars/beats, minutes/seconds. etc.). The decimal will advance you to the next field. You don't need to type the entire number. For example, Asterisk, 3, Enter will take you to 3 minutes. When entering seconds, however, if you want 30 seconds, you have to type 30 and not just 3. Numbers appear to enter from the right column in each field. You can press Enter on the num pad after entering the values. It's not necessary to press Return on the qwerty keyboard. In some cases, there's a distinction between the two keys' functionality but not in this case. There's another way to jump around the timeline and it involves relative position as opposed to absolute position. If you want to jump forward by 3 minutes, regardless of where you are in the timeline, you can add the plus key in front of the numbers to move forward by the entered amount or the minus key to move backward by the entered amount. So, for example, let's say you were at 1:45 in the timeline but you didn't necessarily know or care what the exact point was but you knew that you wanted to jump forward by 2 minutes. You would press the asterisk, then plus, then 2 and, finally Enter. You would then be at 3:45. To move backwards, press asterisk, then minus, then the amount by which you wish to move backwards in the timeline. All of the above commands can be issued while the transport is engaged so you can very quickly jump around the session while it's playing. You can set a custom fast forward/rewind speed in the Preferences window under the Operations tab. Hope that helps, Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 4:48 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I've got an hour long recording loaded into ProTools. I want to quickly jump into the audio by about five minutes. Is there a way to quickly do this? I don't seem to be able to find a jump to time option anywhere. Also, is there a way I can change the speed of the rewind and fast forward so that it skips through the project quicker? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: a better example of edit Modes
Thanks for the demo Slau. Extremely helpful. By the way, Ricky, it is perfectly possible to do all this with sonar. You have a number of options when you paste and cut, and you have a number of options when you delete as well.. Obviously I won't go into details here as this is a ProTools list, and I am dictating this message which is rather labourious, as the phone keeps misunderstanding me. Sent from my iPhone On 10 Oct 2014, at 19:01, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote: I enjoyed the demo this is forcing me to go and buy ProTools. Great job guy. I could not get that done with Sonar. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Oct 9, 2014, at 8:50 AM, 'Hi' via Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com wrote: Guys this is all a bit silly. It's not about taking sides and who is right. I simply wanted to point out when Slau said a key combo didn't exist he could have at least tried it or checked with another user. You should all know that this isn't personal at all but one would tend to feel somewhat attacked when someone dismisses what they said as non existing. I only stated that indeed, the combo does exist even through the current version and got slammed for pointing this out in a nice way. It's no secret that Slau is strong willed and quite possibly may have believed otherwise which is why I pointed it out in a friendly way. My original post wasn't even about this issue. I only wanted to discuss the behavior Slau was experiencing with shuffle and slip modes. Slau, there have been other posts from you that I've read whereby you would try things out first before saying something never existed so I'm not sure why you took such a firm stand with me. I'm not finding a question I left unanswered as you said other than the same question of was this pre version 5. Obviously you're smart enough to understand that question was answered by me stating 5 through the current version 11.2.1 so I'll gladly answer anything you feel is pertinent to this subject but my focus is on trying to get these things fixed with Avid rather than debating the semantics of a post. To answer some other comments my name is Joe and yes, I do respect the fact that chuck, Vinny, Kevin, Slau and the rest have taken up this challenge because quite frankly it supports me completely and what I do in life on a 14 hour a day or more bases. We have all been on the phone together several times and it's easy for Slau myself and others to get quite animated over something we're all passionate about. I honestly believe that knowing a bit of Slau's personality that if I said something didn't exist that he knew did it would be quite challenging for him to say nothing at all. This was the point of the thread which should explain my issue and hopefully put some closure to this somewhat pointless point. Let's move on and get back to the music. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
inaccessible update window
Hi, I don't seem to be able to update ProTools. When I launch PT I get a message come up saying that updates are available. However, whn I enter on details, it brings up an HTML window. But there is no way of snavigating around this window. Tab will take me through links a few links, but there isn't a download or upgrade link. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Ignore my last message regarding PT update window. I've been struggling with it for an hour, and as soon as I email for help, I manage to fix it.
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Sorry for the multiple and conflicting messages, but it turns out the update/upgrade windows are still not working
Sorry, At first I seemed to have made progress getting on to the update window. I managed to navigate using the VO arrow keys, but then when I entered on the view updates link, I then couldn't read the HTML window. The problem seems to be that the HTML window is opening up inside Protools, and Voice Over gets confused and thinks Im on a text element rather than HTML. I've tried upgrading through the PT market place menu, but when I enter on upgrade, I get an unreadable HTML window that Voice Over will not navigate. Sorry for the confusion in this matter. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Pt version
Hi, I'm sure this question has been asked many times on here, but what's considered to be the most accessible version of protools. I'm currently running 10. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Pt version
Thanks Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 6 Oct 2014, at 00:06, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Pro Tools 11 is the most accessible all around. There's a bug with the meters but it's not a deal-breaker. Plus, the meter issue has already been fixed in the upcoming release. Slau On Oct 5, 2014, at 2:10 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I'm sure this question has been asked many times on here, but what's considered to be the most accessible version of protools. I'm currently running 10. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Deleting options
Hi folks, I'm really getting the hang of ProTools, thanks to the excellent ProTools with Speech tutorials from Matt and Rob. I'm just wondering how to delete so that there isn't a gap in the audio. Basically, I want to delete and move the audio to the left, rather than there being a big gap where the deleted audio used to be. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Deleting options
Brilliant, thanks Slau. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2014, at 17:07, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Shuffle mode is what you want for that. Press f1 for Shuffle mode. You should look at the other three modes and what they do in more detail in the manuals. The two that you will use most often are shuffle and slip which, bTW, is f2. HTH, Slau On Oct 4, 2014, at 12:00 PM, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm really getting the hang of ProTools, thanks to the excellent ProTools with Speech tutorials from Matt and Rob. I'm just wondering how to delete so that there isn't a gap in the audio. Basically, I want to delete and move the audio to the left, rather than there being a big gap where the deleted audio used to be. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: the issue with explaining edit modes
What a wonderful man you are slau. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Oct 2014, at 21:42, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: I sat down and started trying to write a concise explanation of edit modes and then I quickly realized that, if it was going to be explained clearly, the best way to do it would be to demonstrate it. In the PT reference Guide, there are diagrams that illustrate what's happening in each mode and, as we all know, a picture's worth a thousand words. So, rather than typing several thousand words, I figured it's more efficient to record a demonstration of the behavior in edit modes. I won't have an opportunity to do that for a few days but will make an attempt as soon as I can. slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
General Information
Hi Slau and the gang. Hope you're all feeling spritely. I've used ProTools before, but it was quite a while ago and I had sighted help. I've got ProTools 10, and am aiming to upgrade to 11. I was wondering about the kind of resources that are out there regarding using ProTools with Voice Over. Can anyone recommend any reading or podcasts or anything to check out, so that I can try and absorb what I might need to know to get started? PeI thought I'd ask in case anyone had any pointers. Obviously I'll read the general ProTools help files and manual, but I'm unsure about how translatable the information will be for me using Voice Over. Thanks guys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: stepping up again?
Great news, welcome back Slau. Letters know if there is anything at all we can do at any point. Sent from my iPhone On 26 Sep 2013, at 04:48, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Those of you who have read my posts (especially the lengthy ones) concerning the bigger picture of Pro Tools accessibility and our relationship with Avid, know that I take it all very seriously and, to be frank, I've had moments of doubt on many occasions and felt like giving up. As I mentioned in my previous message, I did come to the conclusion that it was time for me to step down my involvement. I'm grateful for those who have replied both publicly and privately to my post. I've had several exchanges and conversations with many people over these last several days and I've given it some serious thought. I've decided to make a commitment to continue building upon the relationships I've developed with the people at Avid and help move the process along. Admittedly, the timeframe has been painfully slow and, as I'm sure everyone can relate, one sometimes feels like just giving up. I'm afraid I simply had a very public episode of such despair. Rather than letting it get the best of me, I'm determined to dust myself off and get back in the race. Thanks to all for your continued support. I'm hopeful that we'll see some results in the near future. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: stepping down my involvement with Pro Tools accessibility
Thanks for all your endeavours Slau. Your dedication to the cause really means a lot. Thanks for everything. Sent from my iPhone On 19 Sep 2013, at 12:59, Kevin Shaw tvsound...@rogers.com wrote: Slau, YOur contribution to ProTools accessibility will go down in history. As far as I'm concerned, you and Rick are the Armstrong and Aldrin of ProTools accessibility. YOu've brought accessibility out of the shadows and into the spotlight and your efforts will change the lives of many, from the enthusiast to the professional. If the NARAS could give out a Grammy for technical and social achievements, you, rick, Kevin and all of the other folks who have worked tirelessly to put ProTools accessibility on he map should share one of those trophies for sure. As our friend Neil Young says, keep on rocking int he free world and thanks for everything. Cheers, Kevin shaw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: update on version 11 from avid
Great work Slau. Thanks for being so dedicated. I've gone back to using Sonar for the time being, but I'm still very interested in these developments. On 10/07/2013, Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong list, Wrong company! lol Choices would be nice though. On 7/10/13, Goldfinga Productions goldfin...@gmail.com wrote: That's all good and fine and wonderful and fluffy and stuff, now how about some logic support? LOL GF On Jul 10, 2013, at 2:32 AM, Cara Quinn modelc...@gmail.com wrote: This is great news! Awesome! Woohoo! Would be wonderful to be able to use the latest version! Let me know when you're coming out and we can connect! :) Smiles, Cara :) On Jul 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to give you folks a little update. I got a message from Avid to reassure us of their commitment to improve and, in some cases, restore accessibility for VoiceOver users in Pro Tools 11. Some time in mid August, we're going to have a few biweekly virtual conferences to address the various issues and go over the bug reports that have been submitted. It's possible that I might take another trip out to Daly City at some point. That's about it for now and will update when things pick up next month. slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- David Eagle Website: http://www.davideagle.co.uk Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/thedavideagle; -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: a brief debriefing on Pro Tools
I've not got much room in my flat for storing hostages, but anything other than that, I'd be happy to help. Thanks so much slau. On 17/08/2012, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome. Thanks so much for all of this man. You rock. Kevin On Aug 16, 2012, at 7:52 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Folks, I just wanted to briefly give you a little synopsis regarding accessibility issues in Pro Tools. As most of you know, there have been some changes of late. Actually, there are the changes in Pro Tools, of course, but more importantly, there have been significant changes at Avid. If you keep up with the business section of your paper, you'll have read about the investments and divestments involving Avid, their staff, their affiliated companies, etc. This is truly a difficult period for the company. At any rate, I did speak with Bobby Lombardi and we talked about possible solutions for the future. Part of it might involve taking on an intern, not unlike the last time, and tackling the most pressing issues. There's another possibility that involves a sort of hackathon where programmers take on special projects and run with it to see how far they get and, if their work seems successful enough, they incorporate it into the application. Without delving into more details (because at this point, we know which is more likely), we're going to touch base in a few more weeks and to see where we stand. I'll be going out to San francisco at the end of October and will have some face-to-face time with Bobby and others with whom I've kept in touch. There's another development that might potentially help push things along a bit but it's too early to discuss. As soon as I have more information, I'll share it here. Best, Slau -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
JSonar doesnt support anything above Sonar 8.5. So currently ProTools is more accessible than Sonar. Logic isn't accessible yet to the best of my knowledge. I think the hope is that it will become accessible in time. On 13/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: And from what I hear, pt 11's already in the works. I'm thinking, what the heck! People? Chris. - Original Message - From: Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:05 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Yeah, logic is the ggreat hope in terms of providing options I guess. Even if PT declines a b it, I guess efficient users like yourself would go a long way with basic accessability and short cuts, control surface mappings etc etc. I wouldn't rule out the RTAS thing being dropped soon enough if they fly through a few more versions. They were very fast flying from 9 to 10 it seemed to me. Brian. -- From: Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:52 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Well, the way I see it, If everyone had access to a zip file that contained all the RTAS plugs, then, you could manually install them even if you were to be running 10.x. What will definitely kill us is if they no longer support RTAS, which would piss their user base off to no end. Even though I use this every day, I'm watching the same decline as you are. My hope is for Logic X to have some accessibility improvements. Then, I could sequence in Logic, and track audio, edit, mix, etc in Pro TOols. Everything all remains to be seen. Kevin -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: dialog finally restarted with Avid
Excellent news, thanks for the update Slau Sent from my iPhone On 13 Jun 2012, at 18:48, Thuy Mallalieu tmallal...@gmail.com wrote: I agree entirely. Thanks Slau. Cheers Thuy Sent from my iPhone On 13 Jun 2012, at 18:38, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Slau. Great en encouraging news. Thanks for giving us hope. Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 6:17 PM Subject: Re: dialog finally restarted with Avid Thanks for the update man. Fingers, toes and eyes crossed here in earnest. On 6/13/12, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: As you guys know, there's been a long radio silence with Avid. As I've mentioned in the past, the product strategist who was handedthe accessibility baton from david Gibbons has been inaccessible, forlack of a better term. After repeated emails and phone calls, I finally heard back from him. No surprise, he's on the road, as he usually is. The good thing is that he's finally responding. I'm just waiting to hear back on when we will have a chance to speak a bit. It will probably be either today, tomorrow or Friday. Ultimately, I'm hoping that he will delegate someone else with a little more time and lower-level responsibilities to interface with meregarding further progress. As soon as I have something further to share, I'll post as soon as possible. Slau
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility
Interesting news about Sonar X1. I'll be interested to hear what Slau thinks about these latest ProTools developments (or lack there of) with ProTools, when he returns from his brake. On 12/06/2012, Brian Casey brian_w_ca...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm in a similar position, but I hadn't invested in PT yet. As it seems to be going down hill once again at present, my hopes of moving rom sonar to PT in the next year or two are very much up in the air. While sonar 8.5 won't be obsolete or completely out classed in terms of being an option for the blind recordist for a while, things aren't particularly looking up. dancing Dots are by all acounts working on x1 last I heard. Perhaps its time to really push for logic accessability as Reaper doesn't seem to be doing too well either. They all seem to be on some what of a downward trajectory at present. Brian. -- From: David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:07 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility I think we definitely have to be united and make Avid aware of what's going on. Any solutions to the issue that we could offer them would be helpful too. I'm not sure if threatening to go back to Sonar would work as I thought that Sonar is no longer accessible since 8.5. Personally, I am still using Sonar 8.5 to do my work at home, but I am goign to need to use ProTools professionally, so communication with Avid is really important for me. On 12/06/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hehe, no, true, but if you're only doing some basic stuff, this works. I'll have another stuff while I'm recording this afternoon, but I don't remember things being that terrible when I tried earlier. HTH. On 12/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but like you say, this gives me not much flexibility. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility OK all, I know it's not great, but I haven't looked into it much with regards to editing the parameters, but you can still change the presets, you just need to mouse click (vo-shift-space) on the controls. HTH. On 08/06/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Stefan. I'll try it then. Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 11:11 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, it works. I know it, because I made the change, when I had Version 10.1 Best wishes Stefan Am 08.06.2012 um 01:32 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland: I don't see that alias. Is that cause I downgraded back to 10.0? Is this only in 10.2? If this really works, then I'd be willing to try it again. Any guinepigs on here willing to try? Chris. - Original Message - From: Stefan Albertshauser stefan.albertshau...@arcor.de To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Whats the final word on PT10 accessibility Hi, It is the new plugin format. Some plugins are still in the old RTAS Format and others are in the new Aax Format. If you want to use only the old plugins, go to applications / Avid/ pro tools. There, you will find an alias called AAX plugins. Click this. Then you are in the folder, where the AAx plugins are. Select all and delete them. If you then launch pro tools, you will find the old plugins and nothing else. If you want to update your pro tools, make sure, that in the installation program the checkbox called Avid Effects or so is unchecked. This is the only workaround, we have at the moment. If Pro tools 11 is out, we could have a possibility to control plugin parameters; use a control surface. For IOS devices, an app called pro remote is available. I wonder, if there isn't verbal feedback from the device. I can't test it, because I don't have an IOS device. But, if it works, there will be another possibility, we have. Best wishes StefanAm 07.06.2012 um 17:18 schrieb Ronald van Rhijn: Hi guys, I am a bit confused about the inaccessibility of the plugins as from pt10. Not everybody seems to have the same experiences. Is it the version of pt10 or osx or something else?What's the real story? thx, Ronald -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Just My take
Not sure whether this would be wroth it but Slau could always send a message to Avid which contained short messages of thanks for the current accessibility of ProTools. I have to use it as part of my work, doing feelance production work for radio. and so if the company can see how many people have bought it based on their accessibility and the fact that it means we are able to make a living, or get an education or persue a hobby because of it, then perhaps this will help them realise how important this is to us. I may be in the near future doing some stuff with the BBC. ProTools accessibility will mean that I can do this work fine, but if accessibility is pulled or does not continue as things get updated, then this could severely impair my career. Anyway, I am happy to take the lead from you slau, but rest assured that if the time came I would happily make my voice heard and do what I can to do represent accessibility in ProTools. There are so many amazing things happening in terms of accessibility; things can't start taking a dive again. I hope that in the future, it will be an embarrisment for companies not to have a strong accessibility policy and it will just become the norm. On 30/04/2012, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: Slao, why would you think it would blow up in a flame. We all trust you and have very high respect for you and all you do. You have done so much to help all of us. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You keep doing what you're doing, as words can't begin to express how greatful at least I am to you for what you have done and still plan to do. Without you, I may not have this mac, interface, and copy of ProTools sitting right here in my studio just begging again to be used. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Just My take It's lunchtime and, having checked the list, I'm almost surprised this didn't blow up into a major thread. I take that as a good sign for now. I know that every individual on the list has an interest if not investment in Pro Tools and its accessibility. We all want the same thing, more or less. Previous models for accessibility through scripts have been successful in ways and unsuccessful in other ways. That model included not only third party screen reader developers but developers of music-specific scripts. We've seen the strengths and weaknesses of that model. This is different and definitely has its advantages and disadvantages. I hope we can avoid taking aggressive steps, per se. I think that's rarely a good idea but I recognize that at some point it actually might be. Let's see what unfolds in the near future. I will share any significant news as it develops. Best, Slau -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: issues concerning the future accessibility of Pro Tools
A brilliantly worded Email Slau. Thanks for all you have done. Agree with Brian's point about Logic. I would hope that steps are already being made to make Logic accessible. I would be happy to buy both ProTools and Logic just out of support. On 30/04/2012, Jim Noseworthy jim.nosewor...@compuconference.com wrote: Hey Slau: You're a class act. Thanks for all your work and effort. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:25 AM Subject: issues concerning the future accessibility of Pro Tools Let me say that, in a way, I dread even addressing this subject because, frankly, I'm certain that this will be a long thread filled with everybody's two cents. While that's entirely reasonable and to be expected, it often devolves into opinions that are wholly unreasonable and suggested approaches that are downright ridiculous. That said, I will explain the lay of the land as I currently see it and will set out my intentions. Let me also point out that, while I've been the de facto person responsible for liaising with Digidesign/Avid, I never asked to be that person. I believe I happen to currently be the most qualified person to perform that role and I'd be happy to continue fulfilling that position but I won't engage in battles when it comes to approach because I'm frankly uninterested in spending time rallying the troops and talking sense into irrationally motivated armchair spokespersons. Now, allow me to put into perspective what has occurred over the last two years: When I initially flew out to San francisco to meet with folks at Digidesign, there was no telling how this was going to turn out. I think, most of all, they were impressed with how a blind person could access Pro Tools in general under OS 9 with outSPOKEN, of course. It was no accident that I requested this scenario specifically. It was stunning how inaccessible Pro Tools 7 was in comparison with voiceOver under OS X. I think this made an important impression on the folks at Digidesign. Further, the face-to-face interaction was critical. In a way, I became the poster child for the accessibility of Pro Tools. That was truly a good thing because it made the situation real and tangible. It took a long time for something to finally happen regarding access to Pro Tools. All the while, I maintained contact with Digidesign. Specifically, the person who took interest in the issue was David Gibbons, vice-president of marketing for digidesign. David knew that this was important and assured me that they would look into what needed to be done to make Pro Tools accessible. As time went on, there were rumbles of dissatisfaction within some of the blind community with the lack of progress. There were those who insisted there should be a class action lawsuit. How I wish that happened, if only to prove how truly ineffectual that would have been. Anyway… before I go on, let me back up a bit and point out that there was a long period of time leading up to the initial meeting with david where nothing was happening. We weren't even getting much response from anyone at Digidesign. Rick Boggs finally sent me a draft for a petition that we ultimately put online and harvested signatures. By this point, Digidesign became aware and actually contacted us about meeting. Now, I must say that, throughout all of this, everything continued to be very friendly and non-confrontational. OK, back to the point where I left off… Nearly 3 years after my first trip to Daly City, I got word that there was a good chance that there would be some progress toward the accessibility of Pro Tools. To me and to many others, having patience in the process and the concept of corporate timeframe paid off. Imagine how helpful a nice lawsuit would've been in the meantime, not to mention the utter improbability of pulling off such a feat? Anyway, the way david managed to make this happen was by taking a skunkworks approach. Obviously, with a fraction of its user base affected by VoiceOver compatibility, it made sense to have the work done when resources permitted. all told, it really took one intern about 4 or 5 weeks of work to get the lion's share of Pro Tools to be accessible. There was always the knowledge that certain things would change like carbon windows becoming Coco windows, plugins changing formats, etc. Some of the work would be persistent but some of it would undoubtedly change. I flew out again and met with the programmer to go over the progress and we communicated about various issues. Finally, in 2010, version 8.0.4 was released with VoiceOver support. Now, this next point is very important and I suspect for some folks, this point needs to be driven home. Others will understand it readily. It was made very clear that Avid would not advertise the fact that changes were made to support VoiceOver and that, in no way would
Re: last week's conference call
could I also be added please. Thank you On 29/03/2012, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Brian, Mike set up a Dropbox folder for the conference calls. I've jsut added you to the list of members, so you should be getting an email from Dropbox any second now. Hth Scott On 3/29/12, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello folks, I tried replying to a message earlier regarding this, but wasn't sure if it went through. If anyone has the mp3 of the conference call from last wee, would someone mind please emailing it to me? Thank you! Brian -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: last week's conference call
Aaah, the old Eagle puns. As a form of comedy I'm not sure that Eagle puns will really take off hahaha! Take off. O yes I've heard them all before so don't get in a flap if you can't think of any more. Flap, hahahahaha! When it comes to thinking up Eagle puns, you can pretty much say anything, just say it with confidence and people will believe it's a rock-solid pun. Trust me, when it comes to coming up with Eagle puns you can just wing it. Wing it, hahahahaha! Although if you think you can come up with an Eagle pun that I've never heard before then you're on a flight of fancy. Hahahaha! flight! hahahah! etc etc. Thanks for the invite Scott, I am now honoured to be a member of the conference call folder. I have been waiting eagerly - hahaha, eagerly, sounds like Eagle but with a bit extra on the end - - to hear the first conference call. Thanks again my friend On 29/03/2012, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: David and Jean-Phillippe both invited now. On 3/29/12, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote: Me to, please. Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: David Philip Martin Babula Hole To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:09 PM Subject: Re: last week's conference call Hi. Could I also get access to it? Sendt fra min iPhone Den 29. mars 2012 kl. 12:21 skrev Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com: Hey Brian, Mike set up a Dropbox folder for the conference calls. I've jsut added you to the list of members, so you should be getting an email from Dropbox any second now. Hth Scott On 3/29/12, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello folks, I tried replying to a message earlier regarding this, but wasn't sure if it went through. If anyone has the mp3 of the conference call from last wee, would someone mind please emailing it to me? Thank you! Brian -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Hey guys Join me on a protools accessibility conference call
Not sure if this is possible or even if it's happened, but it would be good if someone could record the call for those who can't make it. It could then be uploaded somewhere and the link could be given on here. I'm sure many people who could't make the call would find its content very useful. Thanks On 21/03/2012, Mike Lockett mloc...@gmail.com wrote: Hey SS Yeah if you can make this 1st one at the given time, we can get it and other things figured out to work for every one. David yeah you can call in, all though I'm sure you would have to dial the US Country code. Guys I'm looking forward On Mar 21, 10:04 am, Sonar Switcher iamablanksl...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, is there any possibility of moving the time up an hour? On the west coast it's right in the middle of lunch hour for those who work. If it could be 4 EDT instead of 3 it might make it easier for both coasts. Mike Lockett wrote: hey Guys I apologize for not being more active on the forum, I kind of feel guilty because though at the end of my day I've been able to read some post I for many reasons hadn't been able to chime in. Well I got to thinking, I know at one time there was one that kind of went away. So I'm inviting every one to join in a PTAccess phone chat. We will talk DAW, plug-in, computers, hardware,third party software any thing protools accessibility. We will reach out to company developers of DAW and plug-in also platform developers. This will be a fact finding and opinionated conference call. Ok I know from time to time there will be a pissing contest! but we will keep them friendly. Conference Dial-in Number: (218) 632-0550 Participant Access Code: 918715 followed by Number key or pound, important, Exit conference - number or pound 3 key Pressing *3 Takes the individual user out of the conference call and back into the lobby. - #4 key Plays a menu of touch tone commands. #6 key: toggle mute on and off. OK lets chat. First chat Thursday Mar, #22, 2,PMCST or #3PM East coast. THX Mike Lockett. PS for any questions or suggestions, feel free to email me mloc...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Selecting more than one track
Excellent, thank you Chris, I'll give this a go when I get back home tomorrow. I'm sure once I get used to the hiding tracks thing it won't be too much of an arduous task, plus at least it's possible to do. I have a BCF control surface and my midid keyboard can be a control surface too, but I quite like the idea of being able to bring the Mac away with me and do work on the move. Thank you my friend. Sent from my iPhone On 17 Mar 2012, at 14:08, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, No, it's just that deleting a group is undoable. It doesn't delete the actual tracks. HTH, Slau On Mar 17, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Chris Norman wrote: Hiya Slau, When you delete a group, doesn't it delete the tracks in that group to? I seem to remember that Pro Tools gave me that impression when I went to delete one. Cheers, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 16 Mar 2012, at 20:55, Slau Halatyn wrote: Actually, it is quite practical. Any tracks that need to be selected for editing are worth grouping, after which, one doesn't have to go through the process of reselecting tracks and can enable or disable with keystrokes alone. Further, it's possible to additionally hide or show the tracks with the same keystrokes—yet another way of working in Pro Tools. Slau On Mar 16, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Sonar Switcher wrote: david, I had the same problem and Chuck was the one to get it to work. I understand Slau's idea but it's not very practical if you have to move fast. I can have 40 tracks loaded and thanks to Chuck select any of them in seconds for example track 1-6-10-20-36 can be selected while leaving the others untouched without hiding, grouping etc. Use an actual mouse, go to the track table, interact with it, click the mouse or VO spacebar on the first track then just move through the table and command click the actual mouse on each track you want to select. The biggest prob I had at the beginning was not understanding you need a mouse and not VO spacebar for this. Chuck, the answer to not needing sighted help for the gray bar is to use the VO resize window command until you are sure the mouse is always where you need it to be. In my case I've had to resize different ways for different sessions because of too many tracks. Usually I get it in 2 or three tries of resizing. You also need the true mouse to do other things like solo safe and general commands that won't work with VO and mouse modifier keys. David Eagle wrote: Hi, I have just listened to Kevin's tutorial on ProTools. He talks about selecting tracks. I am finding it a bit of a challenge. I am in the tracks table. I can select one track with VO space, but pressing Shift and semi-colon or Shift and P does not select the next track. Also, Kevin mentions not being able to select consecutive tracks. He mentions being able to do this using a control surface but not with the keyboard. Is there anyway to select - say - track 3, 5 and 7 with the keyboard. It's a shame that PT haven't built it into the control click menu for the track. It would be so easy to do. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Selecting more than one track
Hi, I have just listened to Kevin's tutorial on ProTools. He talks about selecting tracks. I am finding it a bit of a challenge. I am in the tracks table. I can select one track with VO space, but pressing Shift and semi-colon or Shift and P does not select the next track. Also, Kevin mentions not being able to select consecutive tracks. He mentions being able to do this using a control surface but not with the keyboard. Is there anyway to select - say - track 3, 5 and 7 with the keyboard. It's a shame that PT haven't built it into the control click menu for the track. It would be so easy to do. Any thoughts would be much appreciated. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Scratching
On the subject of scratching,:I came across an IPhone/IPad app called DJay. It lets you do scratching, beat matching, adding effects, pitch shifting, stuttering and all sorts of other stuff. It seems as if this would be amazing for someone sighted. I would love to be able to use it. I only downloaded it last night (for 69 pense incidentally) and I managed to load a track and do some scratching with it. I also got some stuttering, EQ changes, speed changes and pitch shifting going, and bit crushing too. You have to turn Voice Over off (pressing the home key 3 times) once the track is loaded so that you can do the scratching and stuff. I think I might use it in my next DJ project but it will be a case of just plugging it into my sound card, experimenting with it for a while and then taking the best results and matching it to my project. I haven't managed to work out how to do specific things on it as such; it is more just a case of tapping and sliding aroudn the screen and listening to what crazy things happen. The good news though is that you can hook it up to a control surface (not sure which ones) and so this might give us more accessibility. We'll get there my friends! On 11/03/2012, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone On 10 Mar 2012, at 20:34, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, DJ thing sounds cool! :) BTW ? Did you do the Voice for Shrek 3? ;) Talk soon CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 9, 2012, at 5:11 AM, David Eagle wrote: The only way I have accomplished scratching is by using Sonar with the JSonar scripts and a VST called Turntablest Pro. Obviously you need a PC running Jaws and Sonar for this. This is one reason why I can't see moving to ProTools fully yet because it seems as if we have a certain level of accessibility but goodness knows when - hopefully it's a case of when and not if - we'll get more accessibility.. You also need hotspot clicker to create a hotspot file so that you can get a sighted person to put your mouse on the load button, and the other buttons and then you can assign a hotkey to achieve clicking the load button yourself. I have a very tempramental hotspot file for TurnTablest Pro that I have to remap everytime I want to use it. It makes the plugin accessible but takes me a bit longer than it would take a sighted person. I don't think sharing my hotspot file would really help. Hotspot clicker is another reason why I can't forsake my PC for ProTools on the mac entirely. There are too many important production techniques I would lose. I hope this helps a bit. Email if you think this might be a plausable option for you and I'll be happy to talk you through things as best I can. Incidentaly, if you want to hear some of my scratching in operation using turntablest pro then there's a DJ set I created last year with quite a bit of scratching in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmPsAdHU0ig that's the version for Youtube, or download it here: http://www.archive.org/download/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01_vbr_mp3.zip On 08/03/2012, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Vari-Fi does a great job of slowing down the track, but does not scratch to my knowledge. My Hip-Hop clients love it. Just make a selection on the word or phrase and bang! CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Also you could try VarIfi or whatever it's called in the audio sweet menu, but not sure how much milage you'll get out of that. Goldwave to perhaps? Not sure, it does seem a bit of a tall order LOL, but huh anyways. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 8 Mar 2012, at 18:45, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi Jon, I have a friend that does scratching this way. Bounce the vocal rap track and burn a cd then put it into a DJ cd player that can scratch and take audio out from dj box and bang it in to pt! Now you can move it into position in pt if you don't scratch in time! :) Its quick but works fine. May be someone has a better way but this will get er done! :) YMMV On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Jon Solitro wrote: Hey all, Does anyone know how to put the effect on vocals like a DJ is holding the spinning record and stopping it to give it that scratching and quick repeating effect? I'm doing an album for a hip hop artist and he asked if I could do that to one section of the vocals and I have no ideabut of course I said Sure! Thanks! Glad you like it my friend. The answer to your question is no, but then I assume you knew that already. -- http
Re: Scratching
One final thing: there are many more apps for around 69 pense that do similar things that I haven't tried yet. I think there is one that just does scratching. This might be better for us because the screen might be less cluttered and so perhaps it would make it more accessible. I know this isn't ProTools related, but someone did ask about scratching and if we were sighted ProTools users then perhaps we wouldn't need to look for alternatives like this. So it's all about finding work-arounds. Hope this helps. On 14/03/2012, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: On the subject of scratching,:I came across an IPhone/IPad app called DJay. It lets you do scratching, beat matching, adding effects, pitch shifting, stuttering and all sorts of other stuff. It seems as if this would be amazing for someone sighted. I would love to be able to use it. I only downloaded it last night (for 69 pense incidentally) and I managed to load a track and do some scratching with it. I also got some stuttering, EQ changes, speed changes and pitch shifting going, and bit crushing too. You have to turn Voice Over off (pressing the home key 3 times) once the track is loaded so that you can do the scratching and stuff. I think I might use it in my next DJ project but it will be a case of just plugging it into my sound card, experimenting with it for a while and then taking the best results and matching it to my project. I haven't managed to work out how to do specific things on it as such; it is more just a case of tapping and sliding aroudn the screen and listening to what crazy things happen. The good news though is that you can hook it up to a control surface (not sure which ones) and so this might give us more accessibility. We'll get there my friends! On 11/03/2012, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone On 10 Mar 2012, at 20:34, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, DJ thing sounds cool! :) BTW ? Did you do the Voice for Shrek 3? ;) Talk soon CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 9, 2012, at 5:11 AM, David Eagle wrote: The only way I have accomplished scratching is by using Sonar with the JSonar scripts and a VST called Turntablest Pro. Obviously you need a PC running Jaws and Sonar for this. This is one reason why I can't see moving to ProTools fully yet because it seems as if we have a certain level of accessibility but goodness knows when - hopefully it's a case of when and not if - we'll get more accessibility.. You also need hotspot clicker to create a hotspot file so that you can get a sighted person to put your mouse on the load button, and the other buttons and then you can assign a hotkey to achieve clicking the load button yourself. I have a very tempramental hotspot file for TurnTablest Pro that I have to remap everytime I want to use it. It makes the plugin accessible but takes me a bit longer than it would take a sighted person. I don't think sharing my hotspot file would really help. Hotspot clicker is another reason why I can't forsake my PC for ProTools on the mac entirely. There are too many important production techniques I would lose. I hope this helps a bit. Email if you think this might be a plausable option for you and I'll be happy to talk you through things as best I can. Incidentaly, if you want to hear some of my scratching in operation using turntablest pro then there's a DJ set I created last year with quite a bit of scratching in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmPsAdHU0ig that's the version for Youtube, or download it here: http://www.archive.org/download/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01_vbr_mp3.zip On 08/03/2012, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Vari-Fi does a great job of slowing down the track, but does not scratch to my knowledge. My Hip-Hop clients love it. Just make a selection on the word or phrase and bang! CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Also you could try VarIfi or whatever it's called in the audio sweet menu, but not sure how much milage you'll get out of that. Goldwave to perhaps? Not sure, it does seem a bit of a tall order LOL, but huh anyways. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 8 Mar 2012, at 18:45, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi Jon, I have a friend that does scratching this way. Bounce the vocal rap track and burn a cd then put it into a DJ cd player that can scratch and take audio out from dj box and bang it in to pt! Now you can move it into position in pt if you don't scratch in time! :) Its quick
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Hi Slau. To be honest I installed, uninstalled and reinstaleld things that manytimes that I can't remember what problems I was having and when, but my ILok is definitely found and my licences are on the new ILok and ProTools is working fine. Thanks for all your help. On 12/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Weren't you having trouble with your Mac seeing your iLok key at one point? If so, was that problem resolved as well? cheers, Slau On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:04 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hi, just to let you know that I managed to get ProTools registered. I called customer support because my registration failed and they have given me the information I needed. I have successfully upgraded to Pt10.01 and it is running. Now I just need to remember how to use this thing. I've only used it very minimally before. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Authorisation success
Hi, just to let you know that I managed to get ProTools registered. I called customer support because my registration failed and they have given me the information I needed. I have successfully upgraded to Pt10.01 and it is running. Now I just need to remember how to use this thing. I've only used it very minimally before. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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Sent from my iPhone On 10 Mar 2012, at 20:34, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, DJ thing sounds cool! :) BTW ? Did you do the Voice for Shrek 3? ;) Talk soon CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 9, 2012, at 5:11 AM, David Eagle wrote: The only way I have accomplished scratching is by using Sonar with the JSonar scripts and a VST called Turntablest Pro. Obviously you need a PC running Jaws and Sonar for this. This is one reason why I can't see moving to ProTools fully yet because it seems as if we have a certain level of accessibility but goodness knows when - hopefully it's a case of when and not if - we'll get more accessibility.. You also need hotspot clicker to create a hotspot file so that you can get a sighted person to put your mouse on the load button, and the other buttons and then you can assign a hotkey to achieve clicking the load button yourself. I have a very tempramental hotspot file for TurnTablest Pro that I have to remap everytime I want to use it. It makes the plugin accessible but takes me a bit longer than it would take a sighted person. I don't think sharing my hotspot file would really help. Hotspot clicker is another reason why I can't forsake my PC for ProTools on the mac entirely. There are too many important production techniques I would lose. I hope this helps a bit. Email if you think this might be a plausable option for you and I'll be happy to talk you through things as best I can. Incidentaly, if you want to hear some of my scratching in operation using turntablest pro then there's a DJ set I created last year with quite a bit of scratching in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmPsAdHU0ig that's the version for Youtube, or download it here: http://www.archive.org/download/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01_vbr_mp3.zip On 08/03/2012, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Vari-Fi does a great job of slowing down the track, but does not scratch to my knowledge. My Hip-Hop clients love it. Just make a selection on the word or phrase and bang! CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Also you could try VarIfi or whatever it's called in the audio sweet menu, but not sure how much milage you'll get out of that. Goldwave to perhaps? Not sure, it does seem a bit of a tall order LOL, but huh anyways. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 8 Mar 2012, at 18:45, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi Jon, I have a friend that does scratching this way. Bounce the vocal rap track and burn a cd then put it into a DJ cd player that can scratch and take audio out from dj box and bang it in to pt! Now you can move it into position in pt if you don't scratch in time! :) Its quick but works fine. May be someone has a better way but this will get er done! :) YMMV On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Jon Solitro wrote: Hey all, Does anyone know how to put the effect on vocals like a DJ is holding the spinning record and stopping it to give it that scratching and quick repeating effect? I'm doing an album for a hip hop artist and he asked if I could do that to one section of the vocals and I have no ideabut of course I said Sure! Thanks! Glad you like it my friend. The answer to your question is no, but then I assume you knew that already. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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The only way I have accomplished scratching is by using Sonar with the JSonar scripts and a VST called Turntablest Pro. Obviously you need a PC running Jaws and Sonar for this. This is one reason why I can't see moving to ProTools fully yet because it seems as if we have a certain level of accessibility but goodness knows when - hopefully it's a case of when and not if - we'll get more accessibility.. You also need hotspot clicker to create a hotspot file so that you can get a sighted person to put your mouse on the load button, and the other buttons and then you can assign a hotkey to achieve clicking the load button yourself. I have a very tempramental hotspot file for TurnTablest Pro that I have to remap everytime I want to use it. It makes the plugin accessible but takes me a bit longer than it would take a sighted person. I don't think sharing my hotspot file would really help. Hotspot clicker is another reason why I can't forsake my PC for ProTools on the mac entirely. There are too many important production techniques I would lose. I hope this helps a bit. Email if you think this might be a plausable option for you and I'll be happy to talk you through things as best I can. Incidentaly, if you want to hear some of my scratching in operation using turntablest pro then there's a DJ set I created last year with quite a bit of scratching in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmPsAdHU0ig that's the version for Youtube, or download it here: http://www.archive.org/download/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01/DavidEaglesPickAndMixEpisode01_vbr_mp3.zip On 08/03/2012, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, Vari-Fi does a great job of slowing down the track, but does not scratch to my knowledge. My Hip-Hop clients love it. Just make a selection on the word or phrase and bang! CHUCK REICHEL 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com In GOD I Trust On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Chris Norman wrote: Also you could try VarIfi or whatever it's called in the audio sweet menu, but not sure how much milage you'll get out of that. Goldwave to perhaps? Not sure, it does seem a bit of a tall order LOL, but huh anyways. Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 8 Mar 2012, at 18:45, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: Hi Jon, I have a friend that does scratching this way. Bounce the vocal rap track and burn a cd then put it into a DJ cd player that can scratch and take audio out from dj box and bang it in to pt! Now you can move it into position in pt if you don't scratch in time! :) Its quick but works fine. May be someone has a better way but this will get er done! :) YMMV On Mar 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Jon Solitro wrote: Hey all, Does anyone know how to put the effect on vocals like a DJ is holding the spinning record and stopping it to give it that scratching and quick repeating effect? I'm doing an album for a hip hop artist and he asked if I could do that to one section of the vocals and I have no ideabut of course I said Sure! Thanks! -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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Aaaah! O dear, I've just realised something. Now, don't be annoyed, I followed the instructions presented in the manual or at least how they were read to me. I've just remembered that I couldn't complete registration because I didn't have anyone to read the serial number at the time I tried to register. I thought the Ilok came with the licence preinstalled on it and that I could register after running the authorise bit. I will try registering first. I have never had a product that worked in this way before. That is my defence. Thanks for all your help, I'll keep you posted. On 01/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, If you have no licenses on your iLok, I'm assuming you haven't run Pro Tools yet. Please refresh my memory: where did you buy your copy of Pro Tools? Normally, once Pro Tools is registered, an authorization license is deposited into your iLok account. That's why Avid asks for your iLok user name at the time of registration. Not sure what's going on here. thanks, Slau On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:11 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hi, I have uninstalled and reinstalled the software. When I go to ILok.com my Ilok is found but no licences are displayed. This is what it says: iLok 2 #0x000EE92C Description: iLok Newly Registered To David Date Registered: 02/29/2012 08:17 PM Last Updated: 03/01/2012 09:52 PM Total licenses: 0 Total license slots used: 0 Remove grace period ends: 03/07/2012 08:17 PM --- Well this is definitely the ILok that came in the box with ProTools. I can register with ProTools but I just can't authorise it. I seem to have a number of DMG files replicated for the Ilok client and driver files. I will try uninstalling all of these and reinstalling but if no licences are on the Ilok then surely this is the issue? On 01/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Try trashing the iLok software and reinstalling but make sure you do it without the iLok key in the machine. I've never heard of anyone having issues. Let us know if it works out. Slau On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:50 AM, David Eagle wrote: Hi, I've got the compatible version of ProTools and installed the update. I also installed the drivers. I will however try to install the drivers again and see what happens. On 01/03/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: You need to install the iLok drivers, by going to downloads on the ilok.com page. Also, from the Digidesign folder in your Applications folder, hit software update, that'll help you update. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 1 Mar 2012, at 11:01, David Eagle wrote: Hi Slau, thanks for clarifying that. I assumed this was the case but alas I am unable to run ProTools. The first time I ran it I was instructed to upgrade to the version compatible with Lion. I have since added my ILok to ilok.com but it says that there are no Iloks inserted in the mac despite the fact that it is definitely there. Also the only licences showing on my account are Ivory ones. There is nothing about having to download licences in the ProTools manual; it simpley states that has been preauthorised. Emailing ProTools seems a bit of a no-go because they have a paid technical support service or advise you to use the forum. Thanks I will keep trying and eventually something might capitulate, hopefully before I do. On 01/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Just a clarification about iLoks and their use. If you have a boxed version which comes with a Pro Tools license preinstalled, yes, you can just use the iLok without creating an iLok account but you'll need an ilok account for upgrades and any other software you wish to authorize so, by all means, if you don't have an iLok account, get one because you will undoubtedly need one at some point. Slau -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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Hi Slau, thanks for clarifying that. I assumed this was the case but alas I am unable to run ProTools. The first time I ran it I was instructed to upgrade to the version compatible with Lion. I have since added my ILok to ilok.com but it says that there are no Iloks inserted in the mac despite the fact that it is definitely there. Also the only licences showing on my account are Ivory ones. There is nothing about having to download licences in the ProTools manual; it simpley states that has been preauthorised. Emailing ProTools seems a bit of a no-go because they have a paid technical support service or advise you to use the forum. Thanks I will keep trying and eventually something might capitulate, hopefully before I do. On 01/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Just a clarification about iLoks and their use. If you have a boxed version which comes with a Pro Tools license preinstalled, yes, you can just use the iLok without creating an iLok account but you'll need an ilok account for upgrades and any other software you wish to authorize so, by all means, if you don't have an iLok account, get one because you will undoubtedly need one at some point. Slau -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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Hi, I've got the compatible version of ProTools and installed the update. I also installed the drivers. I will however try to install the drivers again and see what happens. On 01/03/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: You need to install the iLok drivers, by going to downloads on the ilok.com page. Also, from the Digidesign folder in your Applications folder, hit software update, that'll help you update. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 1 Mar 2012, at 11:01, David Eagle wrote: Hi Slau, thanks for clarifying that. I assumed this was the case but alas I am unable to run ProTools. The first time I ran it I was instructed to upgrade to the version compatible with Lion. I have since added my ILok to ilok.com but it says that there are no Iloks inserted in the mac despite the fact that it is definitely there. Also the only licences showing on my account are Ivory ones. There is nothing about having to download licences in the ProTools manual; it simpley states that has been preauthorised. Emailing ProTools seems a bit of a no-go because they have a paid technical support service or advise you to use the forum. Thanks I will keep trying and eventually something might capitulate, hopefully before I do. On 01/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Just a clarification about iLoks and their use. If you have a boxed version which comes with a Pro Tools license preinstalled, yes, you can just use the iLok without creating an iLok account but you'll need an ilok account for upgrades and any other software you wish to authorize so, by all means, if you don't have an iLok account, get one because you will undoubtedly need one at some point. Slau -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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Hi, I have uninstalled and reinstalled the software. When I go to ILok.com my Ilok is found but no licences are displayed. This is what it says: iLok 2 #0x000EE92C Description: iLok Newly Registered To David Date Registered: 02/29/2012 08:17 PM Last Updated: 03/01/2012 09:52 PM Total licenses: 0 Total license slots used: 0 Remove grace period ends: 03/07/2012 08:17 PM --- Well this is definitely the ILok that came in the box with ProTools. I can register with ProTools but I just can't authorise it. I seem to have a number of DMG files replicated for the Ilok client and driver files. I will try uninstalling all of these and reinstalling but if no licences are on the Ilok then surely this is the issue? On 01/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Try trashing the iLok software and reinstalling but make sure you do it without the iLok key in the machine. I've never heard of anyone having issues. Let us know if it works out. Slau On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:50 AM, David Eagle wrote: Hi, I've got the compatible version of ProTools and installed the update. I also installed the drivers. I will however try to install the drivers again and see what happens. On 01/03/2012, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: You need to install the iLok drivers, by going to downloads on the ilok.com page. Also, from the Digidesign folder in your Applications folder, hit software update, that'll help you update. HTH, Take care, Chris Norman Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. On 1 Mar 2012, at 11:01, David Eagle wrote: Hi Slau, thanks for clarifying that. I assumed this was the case but alas I am unable to run ProTools. The first time I ran it I was instructed to upgrade to the version compatible with Lion. I have since added my ILok to ilok.com but it says that there are no Iloks inserted in the mac despite the fact that it is definitely there. Also the only licences showing on my account are Ivory ones. There is nothing about having to download licences in the ProTools manual; it simpley states that has been preauthorised. Emailing ProTools seems a bit of a no-go because they have a paid technical support service or advise you to use the forum. Thanks I will keep trying and eventually something might capitulate, hopefully before I do. On 01/03/2012, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Just a clarification about iLoks and their use. If you have a boxed version which comes with a Pro Tools license preinstalled, yes, you can just use the iLok without creating an iLok account but you'll need an ilok account for upgrades and any other software you wish to authorize so, by all means, if you don't have an iLok account, get one because you will undoubtedly need one at some point. Slau -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
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Just to add, I've now tried it in a PC. Straight away the computer announces that it's found an ILok and is installing drivers. This is done successfully. I then go to ILok.com and my ILok is found. But when I go to the my licences link I only see the two Ivory licences and no proTools. Installing Ivory on a PC with the ILok took me hardly any time at all. On 29/02/2012, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Well my ILok is inserted, I logged in to ILok.com. I am sure I was informed that there was a new ILok that needed adding so I clicked the add button. But now when I go on to ILok.com I get told that there are no ILOks found, meaning that there are no ILoks inserted into the computer, even though my Ilok is definitely in and I can see a light emanating from it. I am not sure if I have installed the ILok software correctly since the last time I tried to install it, I was told I had to go into some mode that only ran Safari. When my computer restarted I was presented with a screen that I couldn't access. I don't understand how you've all managed to get this thing installed. Any ideas? Thanks. On 29/02/2012, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Chuck and Nick, I'll gmake sure the ILok is detected and licences are displaying tonight. I have the information needed to register but currently I just can't seem to authorise. I'll let you know what happens. Thanks. On 29/02/2012, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David Nick, May be its the garget note LOL But seriously folks Hook up the ilok with out running pt and go to the ilok site and make sure you see the ilok and look at the licenses for it just to make sure it is cool! :) YMMV Chuck On Feb 28, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Nick Gawronski wrote: Hi, If you bought a boxed version of pro tools you don't need an ilok account as the ilok you will have received will have the proper license already on it so you should just be able to plug it in and run pro tools just fine. This is what I did and things are working fine now. You will need someone to help you enter in the serial numbers from the card that came with the boxed version to register it with avid but you only need to do this once and you should receive an email from avid that tells you you registerd the program. Hope this helps. Nick Gawronski On 2/28/2012 2:49 PM, David Eagle wrote: Hi, I really can't believe I've had ProTools now for 5 months and still haven't got it authorised yet. I havne' really put much effort into resolving the issue but I've decided that I really need to get it sorted. I installed it successfully and updated it fine in order to use it on Lion. It came with an Ilok that is apparently authorised. But when I attempt to authorise using the Liscnce card option it fails and says that there is no license on the ILok. I have to the best of my knowledge installed the Ilok software. I have not registered this particular ILok because there was nothing in the manual about having to do anything. I already use an Ilok for Ivory and was hoping to be able to download a licence on to that but the manual suggests that I need to use the authorised ILok. Incidentally if I try to authorise with the alternative option to the license card option I get something called a challenge which is a series of random words. Goodness knows what that's all about. Any ideas? -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Authorising Pro Tools
Hi, I really can't believe I've had ProTools now for 5 months and still haven't got it authorised yet. I havne' really put much effort into resolving the issue but I've decided that I really need to get it sorted. I installed it successfully and updated it fine in order to use it on Lion. It came with an Ilok that is apparently authorised. But when I attempt to authorise using the Liscnce card option it fails and says that there is no license on the ILok. I have to the best of my knowledge installed the Ilok software. I have not registered this particular ILok because there was nothing in the manual about having to do anything. I already use an Ilok for Ivory and was hoping to be able to download a licence on to that but the manual suggests that I need to use the authorised ILok. Incidentally if I try to authorise with the alternative option to the license card option I get something called a challenge which is a series of random words. Goodness knows what that's all about. Any ideas?
Authorising ProTools
Hi, I've finally got round to trying to get ProTools installed on the Mac after having it since July, but I can't authorise it because I have no way of unchecking the use Licence card option. I press VO space on it and it says unchecked but when I shift tab the tab to it again it tells me that it's still checked. There seems no way to uncheck the box using VO. Also weirdly, none of the buttons like authorise, back, next, quit etc work with VO space; you have to press enter on them in spite of VO telling you to press VO space. Any ideas; or do I need to get someone sighted to do this for me?
Re: Auto-Tune V7 Garget Note
What?! Henrik from antarestech! O come on! I taught him everything he knows! Seriously, if you want to know, I'll tell you. But it'll cost you a lot of money. YOu don't think I'm going to divulge the biggest secret behind Autotune for free do you? In fact, I can't believe I let the Garget Note thing slip out so carelessly in an Email. What was I thinking? No my friend. I think it's safe to assume you haven't got the money to discover the truth. So for your sanity, let's just assume that I made a mistake and wrote Garget note as opposed to Target note. It's probably for the best. On 18 Oct 2011, at 18:53, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi David, Could you tell me what exactly is a Garget Note? I just got off the phone with Henrik from antarestech and He said you must mean Target note because the term Garget Note does not exist!!! What page of the Autotune manual is this located on? I would love to learn about it and get back in the loop! Feel free to contact me off list if you want. Here is contact info for Antares Audio Technologies Henrik Antares Audio Technologies supp...@antarestech.com Thanks Chuck On Oct 17, 2011, at 1:59 PM, David Eagle wrote: No, I meant Garget Note. You're obviously too far out of the loop! :) On 17 Oct 2011, at 17:44, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi David, What is a Garget note? LOL Do you mean Target note? Talk soon On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:01 PM, David Eagle wrote: So does that mean we have access to the Garget Notes Via Midi option Gord? As for the question regarding how to get to the parameters, I can't answer that because I'm not using ProTools at the moment. I will be very shortly though. Thanks On 17 Oct 2011, at 13:12, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Kevin, You are accurate now! Melodyne is useless except in stand alone mode! I am still thinking about upgrading my Autotune to Autotune 7, as waves Tune for pitch correction is still inches away from being VoiceOver friendly! BTW I got my PT 9. upgrade from Washing pro not Avid, must have been a long session day! LOL Talk soon On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey man. Actually, what comes on the CD is Melodyne, not Autotune. BUt it doesn't come as a download from the site. It's only available as one of the disks that ship. Hope that helps. Kevin Hey Kevin,I got PT 9.3 from the avid site! Where is Autotune located? On Oct 16, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey gord. It is indeed available as rtas, and comes as a free light version with your purchase of Pro Tools. I think you've got it on one of the dvd's that came with either 8 or 9, not sure which. Maybe it came with both versions. Hope that helps. Kev Hi. Autotune 7 works fine as an insert effect in pt, and yes, the parameters do show up with voice over. As a matter of fact, you see more stuff here than you do when using it as a VST in windows with Sonar, haven't tried it with reaper though. Some folks like meladyn but I don't even know if that is available as an rtas plug. Gord -Original Message- From: Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:20 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Auto-Tune V7 Has anyone had much success with tweeking the settings of the Auto-Tune plugin after insertting it on an audio track? I know some 3rd party plugins work, but others simply put, don't. Was just wonderring if this is one a those that simply won't, unless you like the default settings, which I kind a ish, do, but it would be nice to modify them if ever needed, admittedly. Also, are there any other pitch correction plugins aside auto-tune that I could maybe try a demo of to see how I like? Chris. Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: Auto-Tune V7 Garget Note
Hello, I assume you instantly deduced this and are just playing along, but in case you are actually not and are having sleepless nights wondering what the heck a Garget note is, I will admit that my knowledge of AutoTune with ProTools is - to say the least - primitive. And of course, I meant Target note, but my letter G must have decided to fleetingly switch places with the letter T on my keyboard. That's the only explanation for what happened. So, there is no Garget Note; although there really should be. Sorry I can't be of actual help to you. I'm still interested to know whether the Target notes via midi option is available to VO or not, so if anyone knows - and is still following this rather tangential topic - then please let us know. Ghank you and toodbye! On 18 Oct 2011, at 20:25, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi David, How much would it cost to find out what an Auto-Tune Garget Note is? I was concerned that I was out of the loop!! Mainly because I have been using the TDM version of Auto-Tune starting back at version 3! since 2002 and may have over looked this hi security clearance secret! Is it safe yet to move up to Auto-Tune 7 using a Mac Pro with Snow Leopard running a Pro Tools HD3 system with PT version 9.3 and a Control 24 yet? contact me off list would love to speak live! LOL Talk soon Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com On Oct 18, 2011, at 2:10 PM, David Eagle wrote: What?! Henrik from antarestech! O come on! I taught him everything he knows! Seriously, if you want to know, I'll tell you. But it'll cost you a lot of money. YOu don't think I'm going to divulge the biggest secret behind Autotune for free do you? In fact, I can't believe I let the Garget Note thing slip out so carelessly in an Email. What was I thinking? No my friend. I think it's safe to assume you haven't got the money to discover the truth. So for your sanity, let's just assume that I made a mistake and wrote Garget note as opposed to Target note. It's probably for the best. On 18 Oct 2011, at 18:53, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi David, Could you tell me what exactly is a Garget Note? I just got off the phone with Henrik from antarestech and He said you must mean Target note because the term Garget Note does not exist!!! What page of the Autotune manual is this located on? I would love to learn about it and get back in the loop! Feel free to contact me off list if you want. Here is contact info for Antares Audio Technologies Henrik Antares Audio Technologies supp...@antarestech.com Thanks Chuck On Oct 17, 2011, at 1:59 PM, David Eagle wrote: No, I meant Garget Note. You're obviously too far out of the loop! :) On 17 Oct 2011, at 17:44, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi David, What is a Garget note? LOL Do you mean Target note? Talk soon On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:01 PM, David Eagle wrote: So does that mean we have access to the Garget Notes Via Midi option Gord? As for the question regarding how to get to the parameters, I can't answer that because I'm not using ProTools at the moment. I will be very shortly though. Thanks On 17 Oct 2011, at 13:12, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Kevin, You are accurate now! Melodyne is useless except in stand alone mode! I am still thinking about upgrading my Autotune to Autotune 7, as waves Tune for pitch correction is still inches away from being VoiceOver friendly! BTW I got my PT 9. upgrade from Washing pro not Avid, must have been a long session day! LOL Talk soon On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey man. Actually, what comes on the CD is Melodyne, not Autotune. BUt it doesn't come as a download from the site. It's only available as one of the disks that ship. Hope that helps. Kevin Hey Kevin,I got PT 9.3 from the avid site! Where is Autotune located? On Oct 16, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey gord. It is indeed available as rtas, and comes as a free light version with your purchase of Pro Tools. I think you've got it on one of the dvd's that came with either 8 or 9, not sure which. Maybe it came with both versions. Hope that helps. Kev Hi. Autotune 7 works fine as an insert effect in pt, and yes, the parameters do show up with voice over. As a matter of fact, you see more stuff here than you do when using it as a VST in windows with Sonar, haven't tried it with reaper though. Some folks like meladyn but I don't even know if that is available as an rtas plug. Gord -Original Message- From: Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:20 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Auto-Tune V7 Has anyone had much success with tweeking the settings of the Auto-Tune plugin after insertting it on an audio track? I know some 3rd party plugins work, but others simply put, don't. Was just wonderring if this is one a those that simply
Re: Auto-Tune V7
No, I meant Garget Note. You're obviously too far out of the loop! :) On 17 Oct 2011, at 17:44, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi David, What is a Garget note? LOL Do you mean Target note? Talk soon On Oct 17, 2011, at 12:01 PM, David Eagle wrote: So does that mean we have access to the Garget Notes Via Midi option Gord? As for the question regarding how to get to the parameters, I can't answer that because I'm not using ProTools at the moment. I will be very shortly though. Thanks On 17 Oct 2011, at 13:12, Chuck Reichel wrote: Hi Kevin, You are accurate now! Melodyne is useless except in stand alone mode! I am still thinking about upgrading my Autotune to Autotune 7, as waves Tune for pitch correction is still inches away from being VoiceOver friendly! BTW I got my PT 9. upgrade from Washing pro not Avid, must have been a long session day! LOL Talk soon On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey man. Actually, what comes on the CD is Melodyne, not Autotune. BUt it doesn't come as a download from the site. It's only available as one of the disks that ship. Hope that helps. Kevin Hey Kevin,I got PT 9.3 from the avid site! Where is Autotune located? On Oct 16, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Hey gord. It is indeed available as rtas, and comes as a free light version with your purchase of Pro Tools. I think you've got it on one of the dvd's that came with either 8 or 9, not sure which. Maybe it came with both versions. Hope that helps. Kev Hi. Autotune 7 works fine as an insert effect in pt, and yes, the parameters do show up with voice over. As a matter of fact, you see more stuff here than you do when using it as a VST in windows with Sonar, haven't tried it with reaper though. Some folks like meladyn but I don't even know if that is available as an rtas plug. Gord -Original Message- From: Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:20 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Auto-Tune V7 Has anyone had much success with tweeking the settings of the Auto-Tune plugin after insertting it on an audio track? I know some 3rd party plugins work, but others simply put, don't. Was just wonderring if this is one a those that simply won't, unless you like the default settings, which I kind a ish, do, but it would be nice to modify them if ever needed, admittedly. Also, are there any other pitch correction plugins aside auto-tune that I could maybe try a demo of to see how I like? Chris. Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: Auto-Tune V7
I can't really answer your question Chris, but I do have another question to add on to it if that's OK. You should be able to access the automatable peramiters. However, my question is, can we access the Target Notes Via Midi button? probably not. Has anyone had a play with Quick Keys to see if that's a goer? Sorry I can't be of further assistance; I'm not using Pro Tools properly yet. On 16 Oct 2011, at 11:20, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Has anyone had much success with tweeking the settings of the Auto-Tune plugin after insertting it on an audio track? I know some 3rd party plugins work, but others simply put, don't. Was just wonderring if this is one a those that simply won't, unless you like the default settings, which I kind a ish, do, but it would be nice to modify them if ever needed, admittedly. Also, are there any other pitch correction plugins aside auto-tune that I could maybe try a demo of to see how I like? Chris.
Re: Tempo changes
Aaah, this presents me with a dilemma: I've only got two USB ports on this thing, despite the fact that it costed £2000; I get three on my £150 PC netbook but that's by the by. Basically, I need one port for my external hard drive with all my audio files on, and one port for my Ilock device which I need to run software including ProTools. I need both. So here is my dilemma: how do I get an extended keyboard set up as well? The only two plausible options open to me are: have all my projects at the same tempo - perhaps this wouldn't be so bad; it could be my special trade mark sound; I'm sure my clients would understand. Second option is to break the law, downloading cracked software so that I wouldn't need a pesky ILock device taking up a much needed UsB port. They are the only two plausible options. O … Well … I suppose there is a radical option: I could maybe get a bluetooth extended keyboard! Dilemmas dilemmas. And I've only been out of bed for half an hour. And it's a Sunday morning. Go easy on me life. Thanks for all your help. On 01/10/2011, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: As we've stated several times throughout the life of the list, it's a good idea to get a keyboard with a numpad on it. Your pro tools experience will be greatly enhanced. There are tons of things you can't do without it. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Tempo changes
you got an external keyboard with USB ports on it? What's the model please. On 02/10/2011, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Other option is to get an external keyboard LOL. Mine comes with 2 USB ports on it, so you could plug your iLok into that. Or a USB hub. I got one for £10, with 10 ports, and it was all powered. Oh yeah, firewire hard drive LOL. HTH, On 02/10/2011, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Aaah, this presents me with a dilemma: I've only got two USB ports on this thing, despite the fact that it costed £2000; I get three on my £150 PC netbook but that's by the by. Basically, I need one port for my external hard drive with all my audio files on, and one port for my Ilock device which I need to run software including ProTools. I need both. So here is my dilemma: how do I get an extended keyboard set up as well? The only two plausible options open to me are: have all my projects at the same tempo - perhaps this wouldn't be so bad; it could be my special trade mark sound; I'm sure my clients would understand. Second option is to break the law, downloading cracked software so that I wouldn't need a pesky ILock device taking up a much needed UsB port. They are the only two plausible options. O … Well … I suppose there is a radical option: I could maybe get a bluetooth extended keyboard! Dilemmas dilemmas. And I've only been out of bed for half an hour. And it's a Sunday morning. Go easy on me life. Thanks for all your help. On 01/10/2011, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: As we've stated several times throughout the life of the list, it's a good idea to get a keyboard with a numpad on it. Your pro tools experience will be greatly enhanced. There are tons of things you can't do without it. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Tempo changes
Found one. Excelent. What a brilliant bunch of people you all are. On 02/10/2011, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Dunno mate, just a standard apple USB keyboard. On 02/10/2011, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: you got an external keyboard with USB ports on it? What's the model please. On 02/10/2011, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote: Other option is to get an external keyboard LOL. Mine comes with 2 USB ports on it, so you could plug your iLok into that. Or a USB hub. I got one for £10, with 10 ports, and it was all powered. Oh yeah, firewire hard drive LOL. HTH, On 02/10/2011, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: Aaah, this presents me with a dilemma: I've only got two USB ports on this thing, despite the fact that it costed £2000; I get three on my £150 PC netbook but that's by the by. Basically, I need one port for my external hard drive with all my audio files on, and one port for my Ilock device which I need to run software including ProTools. I need both. So here is my dilemma: how do I get an extended keyboard set up as well? The only two plausible options open to me are: have all my projects at the same tempo - perhaps this wouldn't be so bad; it could be my special trade mark sound; I'm sure my clients would understand. Second option is to break the law, downloading cracked software so that I wouldn't need a pesky ILock device taking up a much needed UsB port. They are the only two plausible options. O … Well … I suppose there is a radical option: I could maybe get a bluetooth extended keyboard! Dilemmas dilemmas. And I've only been out of bed for half an hour. And it's a Sunday morning. Go easy on me life. Thanks for all your help. On 01/10/2011, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: As we've stated several times throughout the life of the list, it's a good idea to get a keyboard with a numpad on it. Your pro tools experience will be greatly enhanced. There are tons of things you can't do without it. -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Tempo changes
So you can only enter tempo by using the numpad? I assume there's some logic in this? I have no idea how to use numpad on a Macbook Pro. I normally use the number row. On 28/09/2011, MLock mloc...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Command 1 on the numpad will open the transport window for you no matter what window you are in. make sure after interacting with the midi cluster the conductor button is d selected. As far as Automating you can find this by interacting with your prefered auto track. I think its the button right passed your output button. click the button and you can choose from write/touch/lach or read. Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: The best way to set the initial tempo on a session is to go to the transport view, then uncheck the use conductor track field, and then enter your tempo in the tempo field. Gord -Original Message- From: Chris Norman Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:20 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Tempo changes Hiya all, Having a bit of strangeness. I went to the event menu, tempo opporations, constant tempo, and entered the tempo. The start and ends were set to 1.1 each, but the tempo still didn't change from 120.000. In fact, every time I clicked apply, it went back. I was clicking on the new tempo field, and the value I was pasting in went in each time, but as soon as I hit apply, it went. Any ideas? Cheers, -- Take care, Chris Norman. !-- chris.norm...@googlemail.com -- -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Successes and failures with PT 9.05 Beta and Lion.
Hi Kevin. The podcasts were great. Glad to hear your doing more. They really helped. On 27/09/2011, Kevin Reeves reeves...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome. I totally forgot about that tidbit. You rock. Kevin On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: BTW, in all Pro Tools dialogs with tabs, pressing Command plus the numbers row will select the corresponding tab. so, for example, if you want to select the Operations tab in the Preferences dialog, press Command-2 and that will activate the second tab which is Operations. HTH, Slau On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:16 PM, MLock wrote: Hy with the VO Space not selecting tabs I reported earlier, I found if you just hit the space key the tab you need gets selected. Some time VO says selected but you are still seeing the menu items from the previous tab, so I just hit ok, close the menu and when I reopen its selected with the right corresponding menu. Don't know if that's specific to my setup or a voiceover/lion/protools problem. l8r Kevin Reeves wrote: Thanks so much for this info. Kevin -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: interesting mouse keyboard app
Hi, thanks, but I don't see how this would help make plugins accessible. We need a way to click a specific part of the screen using the keyboard. This App doesn't seem to do this. Have you actualy used this to make a plugin accessible? On 22/07/2011, Yuma Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote: Hey i'm cross posting this as it pertains to both lists in terms of accessing plugins. This method still requires sighted assistance at the beginning, but once all set i think all inaccessible elements on a plugin window au or vst. http://lifehacker.com/5823274/keymo-lets-you-control-your-mouse-via-keyboard-shortcuts-on-mac -- http://www.davideagle.co.uk
Re: Software instruments and precise editing
Yes, I was planning on saying something similar. What we really need is a way of creating accessibility for ourselves, rather than having to rely on the manufacturers of every plugin, programme or website we use adapting to suit my needs. Obviously I appreciate that Apple have made implementations that allow programmers to easily make things accessible for blind users, but there's still a long way to go before the programmers completely catch on to the idea, especially since it affects the minority of their userbase. In theory, we could assign a (lets call it a) hotspot to open the load instrument button on a plugin. even if it then transpires that we still don't have access to the instruments with in the browser, we could, in theory, map hotspots for all the instruments. It might take awhile but I'm sure I could convince a sighted friend to help with this project in return for me buying them their drinks for the night wen we go to the pub. Then I would be able to export these preferences and use them at home or at the studio. Everyone's a winner: my friend gets free drinks and I get access to my plugins and I probably won't wake up with a hangover the next morning due to the fact that I didn't have the money to get both my friend and myself drinks. Genius! Out of interest Scott, have you tried using quick keys? I downloaded the trial, but at a quick glance have not managed to decipher much yet. On 29/06/2011, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I received a reply that was much of a muchness. I replied to that reply and urged them to consider the fact that the world keeps turning both before and whilst those devs are reengineering. Professionals who would dearly love to be 100% Mac-based still have bills to pay and an industry to try to remain current in. Also thought it was worth pointing out that when it comes to software with a huge professional userbase, the if it ain't broke, don't fix it mentality often applies. Developers ideally want to be concentrating on adding new functionality, not re-coding something that already works for the majority of their users. Logic is a perfect in-house example case, and GarageBand is a neat example for anyone who doubts that. Not suggesting that Apple's approach of providing the documentation and APIs is the wrong one, just that users like us could really do with a solution that would allow us to create temporary bolt-on accessibility when needs must. Thankfully, I took time to word it slightly better too lol. Scott On 6/28/11, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: I suggested to Apple Accessibility that they implement a co-ordinate type hotspot thing (although with slightly better wording you'll be pleased to hear) and got a reply which is pasted below in case it's of interest to anyone: Hi, Thank you for your email. Apple relies on each application developer to properly implement the VoiceOver framework and if there are issues with that application, customer feedback directly to the developer helps them to improve performance and compatibility. Unfortunately the interfaces for many audio and video editing software was designed many years before screen reader technology was created. It can take time for the software developers to re-engineer the interface so that it will work with a screen reader. We do appreciate the feedback and will forward your request on to the appropriate people for consideration. On 21/06/2011, Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I agree! Its time to step up the awareness effort on ALL fronts! Talk soon On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, David Eagle wrote: I shall certainly do that tomorrow. Thanks Scott On 20/06/2011, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: I've already emailed accessibil...@apple.com with a request for them to implement either a coordinate, pixel, or any-other-whacky-method-they-can-come-up-with system to do this. Would definitely recommend you do the same though, receiving the same feature request from multiple people might nudge it up the to do list. Cheers Scott On 6/20/11, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: And very useful musings they were Scott. Thanks for that. I wondered whether there was a Hotspot Clicker, Auto Hotkey type application for the Mac. I know that in SFZ, Dropzone and in Turntabelist pro, the load buttons once accessed with hotspot clicker are completely visible and accessible to Jaws, so it will be interesting to see how plugins respond once a quick keys script is assigned on the Mac. The positive side to all this is that there are so many plugins that we can access, thanks to the ability to control automatable parameters. I must research quick keys, but I really think Voice-Over needs to implement a way of labelling any co-ordinate, regardless of whether it can see it or not. Then again, JAWS doesn’t do this as such itself, or at least not without
Re: Software instruments and precise editing
I suggested to Apple Accessibility that they implement a co-ordinate type hotspot thing (although with slightly better wording you'll be pleased to hear) and got a reply which is pasted below in case it's of interest to anyone: Hi, Thank you for your email. Apple relies on each application developer to properly implement the VoiceOver framework and if there are issues with that application, customer feedback directly to the developer helps them to improve performance and compatibility. Unfortunately the interfaces for many audio and video editing software was designed many years before screen reader technology was created. It can take time for the software developers to re-engineer the interface so that it will work with a screen reader. We do appreciate the feedback and will forward your request on to the appropriate people for consideration. On 21/06/2011, Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I agree! Its time to step up the awareness effort on ALL fronts! Talk soon On Jun 20, 2011, at 5:12 PM, David Eagle wrote: I shall certainly do that tomorrow. Thanks Scott On 20/06/2011, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: I've already emailed accessibil...@apple.com with a request for them to implement either a coordinate, pixel, or any-other-whacky-method-they-can-come-up-with system to do this. Would definitely recommend you do the same though, receiving the same feature request from multiple people might nudge it up the to do list. Cheers Scott On 6/20/11, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: And very useful musings they were Scott. Thanks for that. I wondered whether there was a Hotspot Clicker, Auto Hotkey type application for the Mac. I know that in SFZ, Dropzone and in Turntabelist pro, the load buttons once accessed with hotspot clicker are completely visible and accessible to Jaws, so it will be interesting to see how plugins respond once a quick keys script is assigned on the Mac. The positive side to all this is that there are so many plugins that we can access, thanks to the ability to control automatable parameters. I must research quick keys, but I really think Voice-Over needs to implement a way of labelling any co-ordinate, regardless of whether it can see it or not. Then again, JAWS doesn’t do this as such itself, or at least not without scripting. Perhaps an Email to apple Accessibility suggesting this would be a good idea. Thanks, and keep musing. On 18/06/2011, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, with something like QuicKeys scripts, we can click a coordinate. Last time I dabbled in QuicKeys, I was able to assign a keystroke to do so, and there was also a way of generating a menu which contained a list of all predefined shortcuts. A minor snag here is that it totally relies on QuicKeys or some other third party software to be running, because VO doesn't yet have the functionality to label or relabel anything that it can't already detect. I've got my fingers very tightly crossed that it'll be coming in Lion, but who knows really. The much bigger snag is that, often once you've clicked that load button or whatever, you're thrown into another non-standard menu or a browser window which is invisible to VO. Guess it's a combination of there being no such thing as a standard for plugin UI's, most manufacturers pushing to have the coolest interface on the market, and maintaining a cross platform codebase no doubt comes in to play here. I don't think it'll be long before VO and something like QK can keep up with the JAWS and HSC combination, but we're not quite there yet. For me, the speed and efficiency of tracking and editing in PT outweighs the drawbacks related to software instruments, because tracking and comping live instrumentation is what I do most often. As Chuck (our one, not Norris) would say, your mileage may vary. Just musings really... Scott On 6/18/11, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: What I can't understand is why, for instance, we couldn't click a co-ordinate where we know the load button is located, which we can then label and then why the menu won't read with Voice-Over, as it just looks like a standard menu that Voice-Over . deals with all the time. Having not got Pro Tools, I haven't tried this but I'm baffled by the inaccessibility of buttons in plugins. If plugins could be accessed using a mixture of labels and some form of scripting or hotspot clicker equivelent programme, then getting Pro Tools would be a no brainer for me. But if we're saying on this list that we cant label co-ordinates in a plugin and then label all the perameters in all the plugin windows. We need some kind of hotspot clicker application for VO. I use sampling all the time in sonar, with SFZ and the Matrix view and so I'd have to keep moving between Sonar and Protools every few minutes. Finally, my opinion of VO
Re: Software instruments and precise editing
And very useful musings they were Scott. Thanks for that. I wondered whether there was a Hotspot Clicker, Auto Hotkey type application for the Mac. I know that in SFZ, Dropzone and in Turntabelist pro, the load buttons once accessed with hotspot clicker are completely visible and accessible to Jaws, so it will be interesting to see how plugins respond once a quick keys script is assigned on the Mac. The positive side to all this is that there are so many plugins that we can access, thanks to the ability to control automatable parameters. I must research quick keys, but I really think Voice-Over needs to implement a way of labelling any co-ordinate, regardless of whether it can see it or not. Then again, JAWS doesn’t do this as such itself, or at least not without scripting. Perhaps an Email to apple Accessibility suggesting this would be a good idea. Thanks, and keep musing. On 18/06/2011, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, with something like QuicKeys scripts, we can click a coordinate. Last time I dabbled in QuicKeys, I was able to assign a keystroke to do so, and there was also a way of generating a menu which contained a list of all predefined shortcuts. A minor snag here is that it totally relies on QuicKeys or some other third party software to be running, because VO doesn't yet have the functionality to label or relabel anything that it can't already detect. I've got my fingers very tightly crossed that it'll be coming in Lion, but who knows really. The much bigger snag is that, often once you've clicked that load button or whatever, you're thrown into another non-standard menu or a browser window which is invisible to VO. Guess it's a combination of there being no such thing as a standard for plugin UI's, most manufacturers pushing to have the coolest interface on the market, and maintaining a cross platform codebase no doubt comes in to play here. I don't think it'll be long before VO and something like QK can keep up with the JAWS and HSC combination, but we're not quite there yet. For me, the speed and efficiency of tracking and editing in PT outweighs the drawbacks related to software instruments, because tracking and comping live instrumentation is what I do most often. As Chuck (our one, not Norris) would say, your mileage may vary. Just musings really... Scott On 6/18/11, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: What I can't understand is why, for instance, we couldn't click a co-ordinate where we know the load button is located, which we can then label and then why the menu won't read with Voice-Over, as it just looks like a standard menu that Voice-Over . deals with all the time. Having not got Pro Tools, I haven't tried this but I'm baffled by the inaccessibility of buttons in plugins. If plugins could be accessed using a mixture of labels and some form of scripting or hotspot clicker equivelent programme, then getting Pro Tools would be a no brainer for me. But if we're saying on this list that we cant label co-ordinates in a plugin and then label all the perameters in all the plugin windows. We need some kind of hotspot clicker application for VO. I use sampling all the time in sonar, with SFZ and the Matrix view and so I'd have to keep moving between Sonar and Protools every few minutes. Finally, my opinion of VO - as a fledgling user - in general is that it is great but something like the Jaws cursor or System Access's Virtual Cursor would be a great help. And if I were to get Pro Tools, then it would be an experiment but I'm probably going to have to stick with Sonar 85 for the time being. On 14/06/2011, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: Due to the way that the plug in window is designed, no matter what plug you throw at it, VO won't be able to read anything at all, including pop-up menus, child windows (open file dialogs), and so on. You get the preset librarian and the automatable controls. That's it. That's fine for plugs like effects, but is not even a start for plugs like Structure. Until the whole window is redesigned, the only way you'll have a chance at an accessible UI for a plug is if the plug's interface is displayed in another program. There is Rewire on the Mac, but I don't remember exactly what sort of Rewire support is available in Pro Tools. That approach is probably the best lead on an accessible sampler. You're right about Xpand. The electronic drums and some other areas are really lacking, but the editing support is very good. You probably noticed how many parameters are in the window. If you aren't familiar with the VoiceOver item chooser (VO-i), you should spend some time with it. If you know part of the parameter's name, the item chooser can help jump you right to it without having to step through them all. If you find that you're editing, and bouncing back and forth between a few of the same parameters over and over, then set VO hot spots
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I shall certainly do that tomorrow. Thanks Scott On 20/06/2011, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: I've already emailed accessibil...@apple.com with a request for them to implement either a coordinate, pixel, or any-other-whacky-method-they-can-come-up-with system to do this. Would definitely recommend you do the same though, receiving the same feature request from multiple people might nudge it up the to do list. Cheers Scott On 6/20/11, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: And very useful musings they were Scott. Thanks for that. I wondered whether there was a Hotspot Clicker, Auto Hotkey type application for the Mac. I know that in SFZ, Dropzone and in Turntabelist pro, the load buttons once accessed with hotspot clicker are completely visible and accessible to Jaws, so it will be interesting to see how plugins respond once a quick keys script is assigned on the Mac. The positive side to all this is that there are so many plugins that we can access, thanks to the ability to control automatable parameters. I must research quick keys, but I really think Voice-Over needs to implement a way of labelling any co-ordinate, regardless of whether it can see it or not. Then again, JAWS doesn’t do this as such itself, or at least not without scripting. Perhaps an Email to apple Accessibility suggesting this would be a good idea. Thanks, and keep musing. On 18/06/2011, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Well, with something like QuicKeys scripts, we can click a coordinate. Last time I dabbled in QuicKeys, I was able to assign a keystroke to do so, and there was also a way of generating a menu which contained a list of all predefined shortcuts. A minor snag here is that it totally relies on QuicKeys or some other third party software to be running, because VO doesn't yet have the functionality to label or relabel anything that it can't already detect. I've got my fingers very tightly crossed that it'll be coming in Lion, but who knows really. The much bigger snag is that, often once you've clicked that load button or whatever, you're thrown into another non-standard menu or a browser window which is invisible to VO. Guess it's a combination of there being no such thing as a standard for plugin UI's, most manufacturers pushing to have the coolest interface on the market, and maintaining a cross platform codebase no doubt comes in to play here. I don't think it'll be long before VO and something like QK can keep up with the JAWS and HSC combination, but we're not quite there yet. For me, the speed and efficiency of tracking and editing in PT outweighs the drawbacks related to software instruments, because tracking and comping live instrumentation is what I do most often. As Chuck (our one, not Norris) would say, your mileage may vary. Just musings really... Scott On 6/18/11, David Eagle onlineea...@googlemail.com wrote: What I can't understand is why, for instance, we couldn't click a co-ordinate where we know the load button is located, which we can then label and then why the menu won't read with Voice-Over, as it just looks like a standard menu that Voice-Over . deals with all the time. Having not got Pro Tools, I haven't tried this but I'm baffled by the inaccessibility of buttons in plugins. If plugins could be accessed using a mixture of labels and some form of scripting or hotspot clicker equivelent programme, then getting Pro Tools would be a no brainer for me. But if we're saying on this list that we cant label co-ordinates in a plugin and then label all the perameters in all the plugin windows. We need some kind of hotspot clicker application for VO. I use sampling all the time in sonar, with SFZ and the Matrix view and so I'd have to keep moving between Sonar and Protools every few minutes. Finally, my opinion of VO - as a fledgling user - in general is that it is great but something like the Jaws cursor or System Access's Virtual Cursor would be a great help. And if I were to get Pro Tools, then it would be an experiment but I'm probably going to have to stick with Sonar 85 for the time being. On 14/06/2011, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: Due to the way that the plug in window is designed, no matter what plug you throw at it, VO won't be able to read anything at all, including pop-up menus, child windows (open file dialogs), and so on. You get the preset librarian and the automatable controls. That's it. That's fine for plugs like effects, but is not even a start for plugs like Structure. Until the whole window is redesigned, the only way you'll have a chance at an accessible UI for a plug is if the plug's interface is displayed in another program. There is Rewire on the Mac, but I don't remember exactly what sort of Rewire support is available in Pro Tools. That approach is probably the best lead on an accessible sampler. You're right about Xpand
Re: Software instruments and precise editing
What I can't understand is why, for instance, we couldn't click a co-ordinate where we know the load button is located, which we can then label and then why the menu won't read with Voice-Over, as it just looks like a standard menu that Voice-Over . deals with all the time. Having not got Pro Tools, I haven't tried this but I'm baffled by the inaccessibility of buttons in plugins. If plugins could be accessed using a mixture of labels and some form of scripting or hotspot clicker equivelent programme, then getting Pro Tools would be a no brainer for me. But if we're saying on this list that we cant label co-ordinates in a plugin and then label all the perameters in all the plugin windows. We need some kind of hotspot clicker application for VO. I use sampling all the time in sonar, with SFZ and the Matrix view and so I'd have to keep moving between Sonar and Protools every few minutes. Finally, my opinion of VO - as a fledgling user - in general is that it is great but something like the Jaws cursor or System Access's Virtual Cursor would be a great help. And if I were to get Pro Tools, then it would be an experiment but I'm probably going to have to stick with Sonar 85 for the time being. On 14/06/2011, Bryan Smart bryansm...@bryansmart.com wrote: Due to the way that the plug in window is designed, no matter what plug you throw at it, VO won't be able to read anything at all, including pop-up menus, child windows (open file dialogs), and so on. You get the preset librarian and the automatable controls. That's it. That's fine for plugs like effects, but is not even a start for plugs like Structure. Until the whole window is redesigned, the only way you'll have a chance at an accessible UI for a plug is if the plug's interface is displayed in another program. There is Rewire on the Mac, but I don't remember exactly what sort of Rewire support is available in Pro Tools. That approach is probably the best lead on an accessible sampler. You're right about Xpand. The electronic drums and some other areas are really lacking, but the editing support is very good. You probably noticed how many parameters are in the window. If you aren't familiar with the VoiceOver item chooser (VO-i), you should spend some time with it. If you know part of the parameter's name, the item chooser can help jump you right to it without having to step through them all. If you find that you're editing, and bouncing back and forth between a few of the same parameters over and over, then set VO hot spots on the parameters, and you can jump directly to one of the parameters with a single hot key. Bryan On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Gordon Kent wrote: Hi: I was hoping that the garitan aria player would be accessible but it doesn't look good. If it were we could import sfz stuff into it. We really really are going to need a sampler of some sort. I like xpand though, at least we have access to the envelopes and it's simple and straightforward. Gord -Original Message- From: Bryan Smart Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:36 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Software instruments and precise editing No, I said that I'd had luck. Most of the Avid instruments are accessible. They show their presets in the plug in window's preset librarian, and you can edit them through the visible automation parameters. There are some exceptions. Structure and Structure LE are 100% out. You must use their custom browsers to load presets, those browsers are completely invisible to VoiceOver, and they don't support keyboard navigation. This is really too bad. Xpand is sort of a general sound module, but the quality of the instruments in Structure are much better. Structure also has nice expansions from East-West that we can't use. From the instrument Expansion, the Transfuser instrument that is used to create/perform grooves in real-time by mixing and modifying loops is somewhat accessible, but crashes VO a lot. Like I said, though, every 3rd-party instrument that I've tried is inaccessible. Without Structure, the built-in instruments are great for picking up a part here and there if you're using mostly real instruments, but just need the occasional synth to cover a specific sound. If you want to completely sequence, I don't think that the instruments that we can use cover what is needed. I'd think better of the set if we could count Structure in our pallet. As is, though, most of the instruments in Xpand are like a synth rack from the mid 90's. Velvet and DB33 are absolutely nothing like modelers such as Lounge Lizard and B4. The absolute deal breaker for me, and anyone that sequences groove-based music from Dance Pop, to Hip Hop, to Dub Step, and so on, is that we don't have access to any sort of sampler at all. The electronic drums available in the presets are very out of date, and, without a sampler, I can't use my own sampled kits. These styles also
