RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Andre Jarreau]

I'm pretty much in the same boat.  A quality mid-range price interface is 
desired.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:42 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Ok, I hear you. What did you think of the Claret 8PreX
? I am not searching for the holy grail, but I do want a quality mid-range 
priced interface and am open to everyone's thoughts.


Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
www.yourtechvision.com 


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:22 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

I would have to go digging and figure out which of the projects were done on 
that. I probably did a lot more mixing at that time than recording. The reasons 
I got rid of it is I realize I didn’t care for the “analog hype”, as in I 
wasn’t using a lot of the UAD 1176/LA2a//etc but I did end up using a lot of 
the plug in alliance stuff like the Maag and SPL stuff. Native Plug In Alliance 
stuff went on sale more frequently and at better prices than the UAD versions. 
Also I could use a lot more without running out of processing power. So not 
being able to use Unison and not using a lot of the UAD exclusive plugins I 
decided to get rid of it. I do still have some plug ins in my account that I 
intended to get a satellite card to use at some point but I still haven’t 
gotten around to that yet. 
I eventually ended up with the Clarett 8PreX but no longer have it as I moved 
and had to downsize. 
  
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:46 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you have any projects that you recorded with it that I could somehow 
> listen to? What was the main reason that you no longer have it?
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:18 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> IF you end up going UAD get the Quad if you can afford it. I had the Duo from 
> the first gen and could run out of processing power in larger projects if I 
> wanted to use a few instances across numerous tracks. 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:13 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am still more or less left with the same question, Ha, hHa! Well, at this 
>> point I am drifting over to the UA camp, simply because of the dedicated 
>> buttons, but I have heard some sweet stuff from the Apogee Element line. I 
>> will let you guys know if I pull the trigger on anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
>> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
>> for schools Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
>> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
>> www.yourtechvision.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos 
>> won’t necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its 
>> additional specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party 
>> thunderbolt interface will perform on par for a lot less money.
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you suggest

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

The Clarett 8PreX is the interface if you have a bunch of gear and you want to 
just leave everything connected . THe front panel has two instrument inputs, 8 
gain knobs with individual  Phantom Power, Hi Pass and Phase switches next to 
each of the knobs. Its also where the big mains out volume knob is as well as 
the two headphones out and their individual headphone volume knobs.  The rear 
has 8 XLR inputs as well as eight 1/4” line inputs. Not combo jacks but 
separate XLR and 1/4 inputs. This is so that you can leave stuff connected to 
the unit and then you would choose in the Focusrite control app or the iOS app 
which input would be active .  On channels 1 & 2 you can choose instrument, 
line in, or XLR. And on 3 through 8 you can choose line in or XLR. You can save 
your selections as presets  and load presets to recall settings. Loading 
presets is accessible with the Focusrite control desktop app, but you would 
have to set it up from the iOS app how you want before saving the  preset. It 
has 10 analog outputs on 1/4” jacks and two sets of ADAT in and outs in 
addition to midi and I believe S/PDIF. The one downside is like the Apogee 
element its a single thunderbolt port, so you can’t daisy chain another 
Thunderbolt device off of it.  You will need sighted assistance to pair the iOS 
app to the desktop Focusrite control app, but I did this with Focusrite 
support. I had them remote into my system and I initiated the pairing from my 
iOS device and then they accepted it on the computer for me. Once that was done 
I was able to control it from the app. Also they set up some input presets for 
me as well also remotely as I did purchase the interface before the iOS app was 
available. The Clarett 8PREX has some cool hidden or lesser known features, 
like for example  it had a loop back function. So anything sent to the main 
outputs 1/2 could be recorded if inputs 9/10 were selected. Also you could have 
the headphones set to mirror what was sent to outputs 7/8 and 9/10 
respectively. This is cool so you can Route monitor mixes to the talent from 
right within the DAW instead of using the Focusrite Control software to do it. 
I am guessing those two features are probably available on some of the other 
Clarett and maybe even scarlet devices also. SO once  set up the only thing you 
needed to use the app for was turning on the ISA preamp emulation, and that 
could also be saved as part of a preset.  Also this reminds me of another and 
perhaps the real reason I ended up getting rid of the UAD Apollo. While both 
Focusrite and UAD support are extremely good about remoting into your system 
and taking as much time as needed to set things up, Everytime there was a UAD 
update I’d need to get on the phone with UAD support to have them authorize all 
my plug ins again. Atlas with Focusrite it was a one time set up and I could 
take over from there. 
Hope this helps and let me know if you have anymore questions. 

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 1:41 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I hear you. What did you think of the Claret 8PreX
> ? I am not searching for the holy grail, but I do want a quality mid-range 
> priced interface and am open to everyone's thoughts.
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:22 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> I would have to go digging and figure out which of the projects were done on 
> that. I probably did a lot more mixing at that time than recording. The 
> reasons I got rid of it is I realize I didn’t care for the “analog hype”, as 
> in I wasn’t using a lot of the UAD 1176/LA2a//etc but I did end up using a 
> lot of the plug in alliance stuff like the Maag and SPL stuff. Native Plug In 
> Alliance stuff went on sale more frequently and at better prices than the UAD 
> versions. Also I could use a lot more without running out of processing 
> power. So not being able to use Unison and not using a lot of the UAD 
> exclusive plugins I decided to get rid of it. I do still have some plug ins 
> in my account that I intended to get a satellite card to use at some point 
> but I still haven’t gotten around to that yet. 
> I eventually ended up with the Clarett 8PreX but no longer have it as I moved 
> and had to downsize. 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 201

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Nathaniel Kile]

Ok, I hear you. What did you think of the Claret 8PreX
? I am not searching for the holy grail, but I do want a quality mid-range 
priced interface and am open to everyone's thoughts.


Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
www.yourtechvision.com 


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:22 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

I would have to go digging and figure out which of the projects were done on 
that. I probably did a lot more mixing at that time than recording. The reasons 
I got rid of it is I realize I didn’t care for the “analog hype”, as in I 
wasn’t using a lot of the UAD 1176/LA2a//etc but I did end up using a lot of 
the plug in alliance stuff like the Maag and SPL stuff. Native Plug In Alliance 
stuff went on sale more frequently and at better prices than the UAD versions. 
Also I could use a lot more without running out of processing power. So not 
being able to use Unison and not using a lot of the UAD exclusive plugins I 
decided to get rid of it. I do still have some plug ins in my account that I 
intended to get a satellite card to use at some point but I still haven’t 
gotten around to that yet. 
I eventually ended up with the Clarett 8PreX but no longer have it as I moved 
and had to downsize. 
  
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:46 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you have any projects that you recorded with it that I could somehow 
> listen to? What was the main reason that you no longer have it?
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:18 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> IF you end up going UAD get the Quad if you can afford it. I had the Duo from 
> the first gen and could run out of processing power in larger projects if I 
> wanted to use a few instances across numerous tracks. 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:13 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am still more or less left with the same question, Ha, hHa! Well, at this 
>> point I am drifting over to the UA camp, simply because of the dedicated 
>> buttons, but I have heard some sweet stuff from the Apogee Element line. I 
>> will let you guys know if I pull the trigger on anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
>> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
>> for schools Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
>> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
>> www.yourtechvision.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos 
>> won’t necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its 
>> additional specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party 
>> thunderbolt interface will perform on par for a lot less money.
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
>>> teaching videos?  
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>> On Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@goo

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

I would have to go digging and figure out which of the projects were done on 
that. I probably did a lot more mixing at that time than recording. The reasons 
I got rid of it is I realize I didn’t care for the “analog hype”, as in I 
wasn’t using a lot of the UAD 1176/LA2a//etc but I did end up using a lot of 
the plug in alliance stuff like the Maag and SPL stuff. Native Plug In Alliance 
stuff went on sale more frequently and at better prices than the UAD versions. 
Also I could use a lot more without running out of processing power. So not 
being able to use Unison and not using a lot of the UAD exclusive plugins I 
decided to get rid of it. I do still have some plug ins in my account that I 
intended to get a satellite card to use at some point but I still haven’t 
gotten around to that yet. 
I eventually ended up with the Clarett 8PreX but no longer have it as I moved 
and had to downsize. 
  
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:46 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do you have any projects that you recorded with it that I could somehow 
> listen to? What was the main reason that you no longer have it?
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:18 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> IF you end up going UAD get the Quad if you can afford it. I had the Duo from 
> the first gen and could run out of processing power in larger projects if I 
> wanted to use a few instances across numerous tracks. 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:13 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am still more or less left with the same question, Ha, hHa! Well, at this 
>> point I am drifting over to the UA camp, simply because of the dedicated 
>> buttons, but I have heard some sweet stuff from the Apogee Element line. I 
>> will let you guys know if I pull the trigger on anything.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
>> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
>> for schools Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
>> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos 
>> won’t necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its 
>> additional specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party 
>> thunderbolt interface will perform on par for a lot less money.
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
>>> teaching videos?  
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
>>> weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth 
>>> the money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to 
>>> upgrade to a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value 
>>> compared to the current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same 
>>> ballpark Latency wise and work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are 
>>> managing large film projects or something like that, a modern computer and 
>>> modern Thunderbolt interface are more than plenty sufficient for even big 
&g

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Nathaniel Kile]

Do you have any projects that you recorded with it that I could somehow listen 
to? What was the main reason that you no longer have it?
Thanks



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:18 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

IF you end up going UAD get the Quad if you can afford it. I had the Duo from 
the first gen and could run out of processing power in larger projects if I 
wanted to use a few instances across numerous tracks. 

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:13 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am still more or less left with the same question, Ha, hHa! Well, at this 
> point I am drifting over to the UA camp, simply because of the dedicated 
> buttons, but I have heard some sweet stuff from the Apogee Element line. I 
> will let you guys know if I pull the trigger on anything.
> 
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos won’t 
> necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its additional 
> specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party thunderbolt 
> interface will perform on par for a lot less money.
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
>> teaching videos?  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
>> weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth 
>> the money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to 
>> upgrade to a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value 
>> compared to the current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same 
>> ballpark Latency wise and work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are 
>> managing large film projects or something like that, a modern computer and 
>> modern Thunderbolt interface are more than plenty sufficient for even big 
>> projects now, especially for music only projects. And I believe, given that 
>> this is a mailing list for blind users thats what most of us are dealing 
>> with. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:35 AM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>> <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
>>> I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done 
>>> with it?
>>> I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some music 
>>> produced by it! :) Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within 
>>>> is Logic. The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools 
>>>> is one of the Avid interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of 
>>>> those in a few years so none are really worth the money right now. 
>>>> As Slau said, interfaces are generally controlled from their stand 
>>>> alone apps and not from with in a DAW except in rare cases like 
>>>> pointed out ab

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

IF you end up going UAD get the Quad if you can afford it. I had the Duo from 
the first gen and could run out of processing power in larger projects if I 
wanted to use a few instances across numerous tracks. 

> On Nov 15, 2017, at 12:13 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am still more or less left with the same question, Ha, hHa! Well, at this 
> point I am drifting over to the UA camp, simply because of the dedicated 
> buttons, but I have heard some sweet stuff from the Apogee Element line. I 
> will let you guys know if I pull the trigger on anything.
> 
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos won’t 
> necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its additional 
> specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party thunderbolt 
> interface will perform on par for a lot less money.
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
>> teaching videos?  
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
>> weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth 
>> the money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to 
>> upgrade to a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value 
>> compared to the current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same 
>> ballpark Latency wise and work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are 
>> managing large film projects or something like that, a modern computer and 
>> modern Thunderbolt interface are more than plenty sufficient for even big 
>> projects now, especially for music only projects. And I believe, given that 
>> this is a mailing list for blind users thats what most of us are dealing 
>> with. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:35 AM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>> <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
>>> I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done 
>>> with it?
>>> I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some music 
>>> produced by it! :) Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within is 
>>>> Logic. The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools is 
>>>> one of the Avid interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of those in 
>>>> a few years so none are really worth the money right now. As Slau 
>>>> said, interfaces are generally controlled from their stand alone 
>>>> apps and not from with in a DAW except in rare cases like pointed 
>>>> out above. So yes you can still use Apogee interfaces in Pro Tools 
>>>> you just won’t be able to control them from within Pro Tools
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt 
>>>>> Element 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>>>

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Nathaniel Kile]

I am still more or less left with the same question, Ha, hHa! Well, at this 
point I am drifting over to the UA camp, simply because of the dedicated 
buttons, but I have heard some sweet stuff from the Apogee Element line. I will 
let you guys know if I pull the trigger on anything.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
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-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:58 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos won’t 
necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its additional 
specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party thunderbolt 
interface will perform on par for a lot less money.

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
> teaching videos?  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
> weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth 
> the money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to 
> upgrade to a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value 
> compared to the current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same 
> ballpark Latency wise and work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are 
> managing large film projects or something like that, a modern computer and 
> modern Thunderbolt interface are more than plenty sufficient for even big 
> projects now, especially for music only projects. And I believe, given that 
> this is a mailing list for blind users thats what most of us are dealing 
> with. 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:35 AM, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
>> I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done 
>> with it?
>> I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some music 
>> produced by it! :) Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>> 
>>> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within is 
>>> Logic. The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools is 
>>> one of the Avid interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of those in 
>>> a few years so none are really worth the money right now. As Slau 
>>> said, interfaces are generally controlled from their stand alone 
>>> apps and not from with in a DAW except in rare cases like pointed 
>>> out above. So yes you can still use Apogee interfaces in Pro Tools 
>>> you just won’t be able to control them from within Pro Tools
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>>> 
>>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt 
>>>> Element 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>>> 
>>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>>> 
>>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Andre J.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>> 
>>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit 
>>>> with Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do wi

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

More specifically I am suggesting those making music or teaching videos won’t 
necessarily need the additional expense of Pro Tools HD and its additional 
specific  interfaces. A modern computer with any 3rd party thunderbolt 
interface will perform on par for a lot less money.

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
> teaching videos?  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
> weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth 
> the money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to 
> upgrade to a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value 
> compared to the current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same 
> ballpark Latency wise and work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are 
> managing large film projects or something like that, a modern computer and 
> modern Thunderbolt interface are more than plenty sufficient for even big 
> projects now, especially for music only projects. And I believe, given that 
> this is a mailing list for blind users thats what most of us are dealing 
> with. 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:35 AM, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
>> I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done 
>> with it?
>> I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some music 
>> produced by it! :) Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>> 
>>> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within is 
>>> Logic. The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools is 
>>> one of the Avid interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of those in 
>>> a few years so none are really worth the money right now. As Slau 
>>> said, interfaces are generally controlled from their stand alone apps  
>>> and not from with in a DAW except in rare cases like pointed out 
>>> above. So yes you can still use Apogee interfaces in Pro Tools you 
>>> just won’t be able to control them from within Pro Tools
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>>> 
>>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt 
>>>> Element 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>>> 
>>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>>> 
>>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Andre J.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>> 
>>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit 
>>>> with Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>>>> through PT.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me 
>>>>> know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf O

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Andre Jarreau]

Are you suggesting there is a better interface for those making music and 
teaching videos?  

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 3:49 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth the 
money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to upgrade to 
a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value compared to the 
current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same ballpark Latency wise and 
work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are managing large film projects or 
something like that, a modern computer and modern Thunderbolt interface are 
more than plenty sufficient for even big projects now, especially for music 
only projects. And I believe, given that this is a mailing list for blind users 
thats what most of us are dealing with. 

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:35 AM, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
> I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done with 
> it?
> I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some music 
> produced by it! :) Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
> 
>> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within is 
>> Logic. The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools is 
>> one of the Avid interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of those in 
>> a few years so none are really worth the money right now. As Slau 
>> said, interfaces are generally controlled from their stand alone apps  
>> and not from with in a DAW except in rare cases like pointed out 
>> above. So yes you can still use Apogee interfaces in Pro Tools you 
>> just won’t be able to control them from within Pro Tools
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>> 
>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
>>> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>> 
>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>> 
>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Andre J.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
>>> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>>> 
>>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>>> through PT.  
>>>> 
>>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me 
>>>> know.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Andre
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] 
>>>> On Behalf Of Steve Martin
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>> 
>>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that 
>>>>> exact interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that loo

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

Allow me to clarify what I meant by not worth the money. Didn’t mean they 
weren’t great sounding interfaces. More What I meant was they weren’t worth the 
money as in cost. They are more expensive (and also requires you to upgrade to 
a ProTools HD license)  and so I don’t consider them a value compared to the 
current ben 3rd party interfaces that are in the same ballpark Latency wise and 
work fine with non HD Pro Tools. Unless you are managing large film projects or 
something like that, a modern computer and modern Thunderbolt interface are 
more than plenty sufficient for even big projects now, especially for music 
only projects. And I believe, given that this is a mailing list for blind users 
thats what most of us are dealing with. 

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:35 AM, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
> I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done with 
> it?
> I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some music produced 
> by it! :)
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
> 
>> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within is Logic. 
>> The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools is one of the Avid 
>> interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of those in a few years so none are 
>> really worth the money right now. As Slau said, interfaces are generally 
>> controlled from their stand alone apps  and not from with in a DAW except in 
>> rare cases like pointed out above. So yes you can still use Apogee 
>> interfaces in Pro Tools you just won’t be able to control them from within 
>> Pro Tools 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>> 
>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
>>> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>> 
>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>> 
>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Andre J.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
>>> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>>> 
>>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>>> through PT.  
>>>> 
>>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me 
>>>> know.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Andre
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>> 
>>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact 
>>>>> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>>>>> to my Makbook Pro.
>>>>

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

Where can one find the open Sound control app or more info atlas on the windows 
version thats currently available?

Thanks,

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 6:07 AM, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> Brian.  Great post.  Just to add that long term there could be some better
> options available also on the Mac side.  E.G. the Open Sound Control app
> that has been developed for use on Windows is also being ported to Mac
> although Can needs to work out a few bugs on it.  Still if your interface
> uses the Open Sound Control network protocol then this could be potentially
> great news.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Brian Casey
> Sent: 14 November 2017 09:34
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Extremely well put, I am coming from the perspective of using an analog
> oriented workflow on the tracking side, I supose my underlying point is we
> should carefully examine our actual needs and what we can and can't live
> without.
> 
> The UA stuff is great and tracking through unison would be wesome to have
> access to, but they are great products without touching that I'd imagine.
> Presumably you could save a preset work space to always track through a neve
> front end or something, which would extract some of the extra value/fun of
> unison. 
> 
> Audient interfaces are another fine USB option but again no accessibility on
> their mixer software, so to me RME is the most accessible I've found once
> you have a control surface and some patience. 
> 
> This is an important discussion to have I think because blind and visually
> impaired users are almost more restricted with interface options in the
> medium term than with software. 
> 
> As someone running a studio as a business myself I tend to feel I am best
> served by letting as little of the work as possible to the
> software/interface systems, but that isn't the entirely the way to go
> because of modern workflows and creativity. 
> 
> Sorry for the meandering message! 
> 
> I better get mixing!
> 
> Brian. 
> 
> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
> 
>> On 14/11/2017, at 8:57 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Fair points, however Except in the cases of the high end interfaces
> (Antelope & RME) USB latency isn't as low as TB. Granted anything under 10ms
> may not be noticeable but USB still has the CPU hit that FW & TB doesn't.
> Also FW ports are disappearing so you will need a dongle or a doc to use
> them in the future. Also if you notice on the Antelope devices the USB
> limits the number of I/O which isn't limited when the same devices are used
> over Thunderbolt. So yes I agree a lot of it is marketing hype, but my real
> world experiences of having used all 3 (I too had an A FW mixer for years)
> and especially having used TB and USB in the last year especially, When it
> comes to running big sessions and tracking through plug ins, USB still feels
> sluggish in comparison to TB devices.I say all that to say , the AudioFUse
> is USB 3, and claims to get 3ms of latency which is only about 1.5ms more
> than TB devices, and has everything you will need available on the physical
> hardware unit so you will probably never need to launch its control panel.
> So yeah, exceptions to the rule and all. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Brian Casey <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nate, 
>>> 
>>> As a quick note, firewire and usb aren't as restrictive as thunderbolt
> marketing hype might suggest, for example the Allem and Heath interface card
> in my console does 32 in and 32 out over firewire 400 with no problem, RME
> and antilope also get huge results with usb based interfaces. 
>>> 
>>> I had an RME fireface UFX in the past, while its own mixer and routing
> software wasn't accessible with a screenreader I was able to create monitor
> mixes, route audio and use many of its monitor control type functionality as
> it could be controled with a control surface using HUI protocol. At the time
> I controled it with a BCF 2000 and it was actually a great system and I was
> omly missing out on access to a small portion of its functions. 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary  on board
> features that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
>>> 
>>>> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I am stil

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

y missing out on access to a small portion of its functions. 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary  on board 
>>> features that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
>>> 
>>>> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but 
>>>> neither seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's 
>>>> with the quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to 
>>>> be accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use 
>>>> half of its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
>>>> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply 
>>>> picking up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to 
>>>> push audio through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger 
>>>> data transfer than fire wire can offer. 
>>>> 
>>>> Nate Kile,
>>>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>>>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>>>> instruction for schools
>>>> Also Private training to your needs
>>>> 907-444-3707
>>>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>>>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>>>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>> 
>>>> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then 
>>>> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you 
>>>> won’t really need to use its control software.  For example if you need to 
>>>> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider 
>>>> an interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t 
>>>> have a Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an 
>>>> instrument like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any 
>>>> complicated routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about 
>>>> going into the Apogee software and just install the drivers and start 
>>>> using it. Usually with most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers 
>>>> are installed, you can select it as the audio interface in your DAW and 
>>>> start using it. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt 
>>>>> Element 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Andre J.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>>>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit 
>>>>> with Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>>>>> thro

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Brian Casey]

I haven't read about OSC since my masters a few years back but again RME have 
been early adopters of that protocol. 

Haha, the way I keep referencing RME you would never think I sold my fireface 
on!



Sent from my smart-ish phone!

> On 14/11/2017, at 11:07 AM, Phil Muir <i...@accessibilitytraining.co.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
> Brian.  Great post.  Just to add that long term there could be some better
> options available also on the Mac side.  E.G. the Open Sound Control app
> that has been developed for use on Windows is also being ported to Mac
> although Can needs to work out a few bugs on it.  Still if your interface
> uses the Open Sound Control network protocol then this could be potentially
> great news.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Brian Casey
> Sent: 14 November 2017 09:34
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Extremely well put, I am coming from the perspective of using an analog
> oriented workflow on the tracking side, I supose my underlying point is we
> should carefully examine our actual needs and what we can and can't live
> without.
> 
> The UA stuff is great and tracking through unison would be wesome to have
> access to, but they are great products without touching that I'd imagine.
> Presumably you could save a preset work space to always track through a neve
> front end or something, which would extract some of the extra value/fun of
> unison. 
> 
> Audient interfaces are another fine USB option but again no accessibility on
> their mixer software, so to me RME is the most accessible I've found once
> you have a control surface and some patience. 
> 
> This is an important discussion to have I think because blind and visually
> impaired users are almost more restricted with interface options in the
> medium term than with software. 
> 
> As someone running a studio as a business myself I tend to feel I am best
> served by letting as little of the work as possible to the
> software/interface systems, but that isn't the entirely the way to go
> because of modern workflows and creativity. 
> 
> Sorry for the meandering message! 
> 
> I better get mixing!
> 
> Brian. 
> 
> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
> 
>> On 14/11/2017, at 8:57 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Fair points, however Except in the cases of the high end interfaces
> (Antelope & RME) USB latency isn't as low as TB. Granted anything under 10ms
> may not be noticeable but USB still has the CPU hit that FW & TB doesn't.
> Also FW ports are disappearing so you will need a dongle or a doc to use
> them in the future. Also if you notice on the Antelope devices the USB
> limits the number of I/O which isn't limited when the same devices are used
> over Thunderbolt. So yes I agree a lot of it is marketing hype, but my real
> world experiences of having used all 3 (I too had an A FW mixer for years)
> and especially having used TB and USB in the last year especially, When it
> comes to running big sessions and tracking through plug ins, USB still feels
> sluggish in comparison to TB devices.I say all that to say , the AudioFUse
> is USB 3, and claims to get 3ms of latency which is only about 1.5ms more
> than TB devices, and has everything you will need available on the physical
> hardware unit so you will probably never need to launch its control panel.
> So yeah, exceptions to the rule and all. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Brian Casey <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Nate, 
>>> 
>>> As a quick note, firewire and usb aren't as restrictive as thunderbolt
> marketing hype might suggest, for example the Allem and Heath interface card
> in my console does 32 in and 32 out over firewire 400 with no problem, RME
> and antilope also get huge results with usb based interfaces. 
>>> 
>>> I had an RME fireface UFX in the past, while its own mixer and routing
> software wasn't accessible with a screenreader I was able to create monitor
> mixes, route audio and use many of its monitor control type functionality as
> it could be controled with a control surface using HUI protocol. At the time
> I controled it with a BCF 2000 and it was actually a great system and I was
> omly missing out on access to a small portion of its functions. 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary  on board
> features that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
>>> 
>>>> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Steve,

Have you used a HD I/O 16x16 from Avid?
I can't even begin to count how many songs you might listen to were done with 
it?
I use it every day and would be glad to send you off list some music produced 
by it! :)
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’

On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:11 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:

> Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within is Logic. 
> The only interfaces you can control from within ProTools is one of the Avid 
> interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of those in a few years so none are 
> really worth the money right now. As Slau said, interfaces are generally 
> controlled from their stand alone apps  and not from with in a DAW except in 
> rare cases like pointed out above. So yes you can still use Apogee interfaces 
> in Pro Tools you just won’t be able to control them from within Pro Tools 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>> 
>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
>> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>> 
>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>> 
>> I am open to suggestion.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre J.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
>> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>> 
>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>> through PT.  
>>> 
>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Andre
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact 
>>>> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>>>> to my Makbook Pro.
>>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>>>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
>>>> problems are specific to my particular system.
>>>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>>>> 
>>>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
>>>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can 
>>>> be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
>>>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends 
>>>> on your specific mixing environment.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of 
>>>>> accessibility plugin needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Phil Muir]

Brian.  Great post.  Just to add that long term there could be some better
options available also on the Mac side.  E.G. the Open Sound Control app
that has been developed for use on Windows is also being ported to Mac
although Can needs to work out a few bugs on it.  Still if your interface
uses the Open Sound Control network protocol then this could be potentially
great news.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Casey
Sent: 14 November 2017 09:34
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Extremely well put, I am coming from the perspective of using an analog
oriented workflow on the tracking side, I supose my underlying point is we
should carefully examine our actual needs and what we can and can't live
without.

The UA stuff is great and tracking through unison would be wesome to have
access to, but they are great products without touching that I'd imagine.
Presumably you could save a preset work space to always track through a neve
front end or something, which would extract some of the extra value/fun of
unison. 

Audient interfaces are another fine USB option but again no accessibility on
their mixer software, so to me RME is the most accessible I've found once
you have a control surface and some patience. 

This is an important discussion to have I think because blind and visually
impaired users are almost more restricted with interface options in the
medium term than with software. 

As someone running a studio as a business myself I tend to feel I am best
served by letting as little of the work as possible to the
software/interface systems, but that isn't the entirely the way to go
because of modern workflows and creativity. 

Sorry for the meandering message! 

I better get mixing!

Brian. 

Sent from my smart-ish phone!

> On 14/11/2017, at 8:57 AM, TheOreoMonster <monkeypushe...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> Fair points, however Except in the cases of the high end interfaces
(Antelope & RME) USB latency isn't as low as TB. Granted anything under 10ms
may not be noticeable but USB still has the CPU hit that FW & TB doesn't.
Also FW ports are disappearing so you will need a dongle or a doc to use
them in the future. Also if you notice on the Antelope devices the USB
limits the number of I/O which isn't limited when the same devices are used
over Thunderbolt. So yes I agree a lot of it is marketing hype, but my real
world experiences of having used all 3 (I too had an A FW mixer for years)
and especially having used TB and USB in the last year especially, When it
comes to running big sessions and tracking through plug ins, USB still feels
sluggish in comparison to TB devices.I say all that to say , the AudioFUse
is USB 3, and claims to get 3ms of latency which is only about 1.5ms more
than TB devices, and has everything you will need available on the physical
hardware unit so you will probably never need to launch its control panel.
So yeah, exceptions to the rule and all. 
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Brian Casey <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com>
wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Nate, 
>> 
>> As a quick note, firewire and usb aren't as restrictive as thunderbolt
marketing hype might suggest, for example the Allem and Heath interface card
in my console does 32 in and 32 out over firewire 400 with no problem, RME
and antilope also get huge results with usb based interfaces. 
>> 
>> I had an RME fireface UFX in the past, while its own mixer and routing
software wasn't accessible with a screenreader I was able to create monitor
mixes, route audio and use many of its monitor control type functionality as
it could be controled with a control surface using HUI protocol. At the time
I controled it with a BCF 2000 and it was actually a great system and I was
omly missing out on access to a small portion of its functions. 
>> 
>> Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary  on board
features that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. 
>> 
>> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
>> 
>>> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but
neither seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's
with the quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to
be accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half
of its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
>>> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply
picking up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to
push audio through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger
data transfer than fire wire can offer. 
>>> 
>>> Nate Kile

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Brian Casey]

es & lessons on PC, Office 
>>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then 
>>> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you 
>>> won’t really need to use its control software.  For example if you need to 
>>> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an 
>>> interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a 
>>> Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument 
>>> like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated 
>>> routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the 
>>> Apogee software and just install the drivers and start using it. Usually 
>>> with most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers are installed, you 
>>> can select it as the audio interface in your DAW and start using it. 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>>> 
>>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt 
>>>> Element 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>>> 
>>>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>>>> 
>>>> I am open to suggestion.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Andre J.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>> 
>>>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>>>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit 
>>>> with Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>>>> through PT.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me 
>>>>> know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that 
>>>>>> exact interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>>>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>>>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>>>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>>>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>>>>>> to my Makbook Pro.
>>>>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>>>>>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm 

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

Fair points, however Except in the cases of the high end interfaces  (Antelope 
& RME) USB latency isn’t as low as TB. Granted anything under 10ms may not be 
noticeable but USB still has the CPU hit that FW & TB doesn’t. Also FW ports 
are disappearing so you will need a dongle or a doc to use them in the future. 
Also if you notice on the Antelope devices the USB limits the number of I/O 
which isn’t limited when the same devices are used over Thunderbolt. So yes I 
agree a lot of it is marketing hype, but my real world experiences of having 
used all 3 (I too had an A FW mixer for years) and especially having used TB 
and USB in the last year especially, When it comes to running big sessions and 
tracking through plug ins, USB still feels sluggish in comparison to TB 
devices.I say all that to say , the AudioFUse is USB 3, and claims to get 3ms 
of latency which is only about 1.5ms more than TB devices, and has everything 
you will need available on the physical hardware unit so you will probably 
never need to launch its control panel.  So yeah, exceptions to the rule and 
all. 
 
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Brian Casey <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Nate, 
> 
> As a quick note, firewire and usb aren't as restrictive as thunderbolt 
> marketing hype might suggest, for example the Allem and Heath interface card 
> in my console does 32 in and 32 out over firewire 400 with no problem, RME 
> and antilope also get huge results with usb based interfaces. 
> 
> I had an RME fireface UFX in the past, while its own mixer and routing 
> software wasn't accessible with a screenreader I was able to create monitor 
> mixes, route audio and use many of its monitor control type functionality as 
> it could be controled with a control surface using HUI protocol. At the time 
> I controled it with a BCF 2000 and it was actually a great system and I was 
> omly missing out on access to a small portion of its functions. 
> 
> Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary  on board 
> features that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. 
> 
> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
> 
>> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but 
>> neither seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's 
>> with the quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to 
>> be accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half 
>> of its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
>> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply 
>> picking up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to 
>> push audio through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger 
>> data transfer than fire wire can offer. 
>> 
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>> instruction for schools
>> Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then 
>> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you 
>> won’t really need to use its control software.  For example if you need to 
>> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an 
>> interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a 
>> Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument 
>> like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated 
>> routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the 
>> Apogee software and just install the drivers and start using it. Usually 
>> with most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers are installed, you 
>> can select it as the audio interface in your DAW and start using it. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>> 

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Brian Casey]

Hi Nate, 

As a quick note, firewire and usb aren't as restrictive as thunderbolt 
marketing hype might suggest, for example the Allem and Heath interface card in 
my console does 32 in and 32 out over firewire 400 with no problem, RME and 
antilope also get huge results with usb based interfaces. 

I had an RME fireface UFX in the past, while its own mixer and routing software 
wasn't accessible with a screenreader I was able to create monitor mixes, route 
audio and use many of its monitor control type functionality as it could be 
controled with a control surface using HUI protocol. At the time I controled it 
with a BCF 2000 and it was actually a great system and I was omly missing out 
on access to a small portion of its functions. 

Unfortunately the trend in interfaces is towards proprietary  on board features 
that are as inaccessible as they ar awesome. 

Sent from my smart-ish phone!

> On 14/11/2017, at 3:16 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but neither 
> seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's with the 
> quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to be 
> accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half of 
> its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply picking 
> up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to push audio 
> through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger data transfer 
> than fire wire can offer. 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then 
> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you 
> won’t really need to use its control software.  For example if you need to 
> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an 
> interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a 
> Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument 
> like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated 
> routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the 
> Apogee software and just install the drivers and start using it. Usually with 
> most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers are installed, you can 
> select it as the audio interface in your DAW and start using it. 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>> 
>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
>> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>> 
>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>> 
>> I am open to suggestion.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre J.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
>> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>> 
>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>> through PT.  
>>> 
>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Andre
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>>

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

What you will need the app for depends on your set up and your needs. If you 
leave your Condensor mic plugged in to input 1 and never really change it for 
example then yes you can just set phantom power on and never really have to 
worry about turning it off or making any changes etc.I imagine things like 
phantom power and/or switching the line inputs to hi z are probably the things 
you will change the most. 
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 12:23 AM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I do have an IOS device, I am just trying to imagine having to fiddle with my 
> phone during a session. I wonder how much one can set it and forget it? 
> Thanks for the thoughts,
> I will look into the  Focusrite Clarret 8PreX  
> 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:29 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> If you have an iOS Device to control your Apogee, Get the Apogee ands the 
> left over cash to get a UAD Satellite card. That way you have an  interface 
> you can use, and you still can use UAD plug ins. The Focusrite Clarret 8PreX 
> is nice is you need that many I/O as unlike the other Clarret unit it has a 
> lot more hardware buttons so you won’t need to go into the  software to do 
> anything other than advanced routings or to turn on the emulation of  their 
> ISA preamps, however their iOS app is also accessible. 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but 
>> neither seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's 
>> with the quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to 
>> be accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half 
>> of its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
>> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply 
>> picking up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to 
>> push audio through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger 
>> data transfer than fire wire can offer. 
>> 
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
>> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
>> for schools Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
>> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then 
>> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you 
>> won’t really need to use its control software.  For example if you need to 
>> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an 
>> interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a 
>> Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument 
>> like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated 
>> routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the 
>> Apogee software and just install the drivers and start using it. Usually 
>> with most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers are installed, you 
>> can select it as the audio interface in your DAW and start using it. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>>> 
>>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
>>> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>>> 
>>> Or should I bite

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Nathaniel Kile]

Thank you Andre.

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
www.yourtechvision.com 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andre Jarreau
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:41 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

I am building a DAW from the ground up and am learning about interfaces and 
hoping to choose one soon.  Wish I could offer suggestion. Maybe someone on the 
list can help. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:17 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Hello,
I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but neither 
seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's with the 
quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to be accessible 
and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half of its features. 
What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply picking 
up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to push audio 
through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger data transfer 
than fire wire can offer. 

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for 
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
www.yourtechvision.com 


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then perhaps 
consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you won’t really 
need to use its control software.  For example if you need to enable phantom 
power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an interface that has 
physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a Condensor mic that 
requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument like guitar or Bass 
directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated routing of audio you 
probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the Apogee software and just 
install the drivers and start using it. Usually with most interfaces I have 
encountered once the drivers are installed, you can select it as the audio 
interface in your DAW and start using it. 

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
> 
> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
> 
> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
> 
> I am open to suggestion.
> 
> Thanks
> Andre J.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>> 
>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>> through PT.  
>> 
>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Have you contacted Apogee 

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Andre Jarreau]

I am building a DAW from the ground up and am learning about interfaces and 
hoping to choose one soon.  Wish I could offer suggestion. Maybe someone on the 
list can help. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:17 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Hello,
I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but neither 
seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's with the 
quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to be accessible 
and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half of its features. 
What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply picking 
up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to push audio 
through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger data transfer 
than fire wire can offer. 

Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for 
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
www.yourtechvision.com 


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then perhaps 
consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you won’t really 
need to use its control software.  For example if you need to enable phantom 
power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an interface that has 
physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a Condensor mic that 
requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument like guitar or Bass 
directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated routing of audio you 
probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the Apogee software and just 
install the drivers and start using it. Usually with most interfaces I have 
encountered once the drivers are installed, you can select it as the audio 
interface in your DAW and start using it. 

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
> 
> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
> 
> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
> 
> I am open to suggestion.
> 
> Thanks
> Andre J.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>> 
>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>> through PT.  
>> 
>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andre,
>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that 
>>> exact interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>> Element 46, even though

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

If you have an iOS Device to control your Apogee, Get the Apogee ands the left 
over cash to get a UAD Satellite card. That way you have an  interface you can 
use, and you still can use UAD plug ins. The Focusrite Clarret 8PreX is nice is 
you need that many I/O as unlike the other Clarret unit it has a lot more 
hardware buttons so you won’t need to go into the  software to do anything 
other than advanced routings or to turn on the emulation of  their ISA preamps, 
however their iOS app is also accessible. 
> On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:16 PM, Nathaniel Kile <heavens4r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am still going back and forth between the Apogee and the Apollo but neither 
> seem to be completely accessible. I am looking at the new Apollo's with the 
> quad shark processors, but the unison technology does not seem to be 
> accessible and I don't want to buy something and only be able to use half of 
> its features. What are you using? I am in the $1500 to $2000 range.
> Any suggestions? I have a couple clean pres, and thought about simply picking 
> up a Black Lion Audio AD converter, but then I would still have to push audio 
> through my 003 and it is only fire wire and I want a stronger data transfer 
> than fire wire can offer. 
> 
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 6:06 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then 
> perhaps consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you 
> won’t really need to use its control software.  For example if you need to 
> enable phantom power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an 
> interface that has physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a 
> Condensor mic that requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument 
> like guitar or Bass directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated 
> routing of audio you probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the 
> Apogee software and just install the drivers and start using it. Usually with 
> most interfaces I have encountered once the drivers are installed, you can 
> select it as the audio interface in your DAW and start using it. 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
>> 
>> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
>> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
>> 
>> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
>> 
>> I am open to suggestion.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre J.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
>> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
>> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>>> 
>>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>>> through PT.  
>>> 
>>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Andre
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>>> 
>>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Andre Jarreau]

I have been looking at Iphones; and if I get one.  Then the APOGEE thunderbolt 
Element 46 would be accessible?

I will be running guitar and bass direct into the audio interface.  Traps and 
percussion, hornes on occasion, midi keyboards  and of course vocals.  
Condenser mics will be mostly used. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then perhaps 
consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you won’t really 
need to use its control software.  For example if you need to enable phantom 
power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an interface that has 
physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a Condensor mic that 
requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument like guitar or Bass 
directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated routing of audio you 
probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the Apogee software and just 
install the drivers and start using it. Usually with most interfaces I have 
encountered once the drivers are installed, you can select it as the audio 
interface in your DAW and start using it. 

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
> 
> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
> 
> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
> 
> I am open to suggestion.
> 
> Thanks
> Andre J.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>> 
>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>> through PT.  
>> 
>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andre,
>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that 
>>> exact interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>>> to my Makbook Pro.
>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
>>> problems are specific to my particular system.
>>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>>> 
>>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
>>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that 
>>> can be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
>>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends 
>>> on your specific mixing environment.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind 
>

Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

Also the only DAW you can control an Apogee interface from within is Logic. The 
only interfaces you can control from within ProTools is one of the Avid 
interfaces, and they haven’t updated any of those in a few years so none are 
really worth the money right now. As Slau said, interfaces are generally 
controlled from their stand alone apps  and not from with in a DAW except in 
rare cases like pointed out above. So yes you can still use Apogee interfaces 
in Pro Tools you just won’t be able to control them from within Pro Tools 

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
> 
> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
> 
> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
> 
> I am open to suggestion.
> 
> Thanks
> Andre J.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>> 
>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>> through PT.  
>> 
>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andre,
>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact 
>>> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>>> to my Makbook Pro.
>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
>>> problems are specific to my particular system.
>>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>>> 
>>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
>>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can 
>>> be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
>>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends 
>>> on your specific mixing environment.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of 
>>>> accessibility plugin needed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good 
>>>> idea to have for mixing down a project.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andre J.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---
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Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[TheOreoMonster]

If you do not have an iOS device to control the device accessibly, then perhaps 
consider an interface that has some hardware buttons on it so you won’t really 
need to use its control software.  For example if you need to enable phantom 
power or switch an input from line level to hi-z consider an interface that has 
physical buttons for these features. If you don’t have a Condensor mic that 
requires phantom power or plan to record an instrument like guitar or Bass 
directly and also don’t plan to do any complicated routing of audio you 
probably won’t need to ever worry about going into the Apogee software and just 
install the drivers and start using it. Usually with most interfaces I have 
encountered once the drivers are installed, you can select it as the audio 
interface in your DAW and start using it. 

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  
> 
> Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 
> 46 that might be more accessible friendly?
> 
> Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?
> 
> I am open to suggestion.
> 
> Thanks
> Andre J.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
> application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
> Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
>> 
>> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass 
>> through, USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it 
>> through PT.  
>> 
>> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andre
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Martin
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
>> 
>> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Andre,
>>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact 
>>> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>>> to my Makbook Pro.
>>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
>>> problems are specific to my particular system.
>>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>>> 
>>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
>>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can 
>>> be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
>>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends 
>>> on your specific mixing environment.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi List,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of 
>>>> accessibility plugin needed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good 
>>>> idea to have for mixing down a project.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Andre J.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avas

RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Andre Jarreau]

Ok, I'm new to Mac and have even less knowledge of Keyboard Maestro.  

Do you know of an audio interface similar to the APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 
that might be more accessible friendly?

Or should I bite the bullet and learn Keyboard Maestro?

I am open to suggestion.

Thanks
Andre J.

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 5:58 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
> 
> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass through, 
> USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it through PT.  
> 
> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
> 
> Thanks
> Andre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Martin
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
> 
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>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andre,
>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact 
>> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my 
>> Element 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected 
>> to my Makbook Pro.
>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
>> problems are specific to my particular system.
>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>> 
>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can 
>> be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends 
>> on your specific mixing environment.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of 
>>> accessibility plugin needed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good 
>>> idea to have for mixing down a project.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andre J.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Slau Halatyn]

Nah, you can't control it from within Pro Tools. It's a stand-alone 
application. It might be possible to create macros to control it a bit with 
Keyboard Maestro but it won't have anything to do with Flo Tools.

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  
> 
> My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass through, 
> USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it through PT.  
> 
> If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.
> 
> Thanks
> Andre 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Steve Martin
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling
> 
> Have you contacted Apogee Support?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Andre,
>> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact 
>> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
>> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
>> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
>> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my Element 
>> 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected to my 
>> Makbook Pro.
>> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
>> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
>> problems are specific to my particular system.
>> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
>> 
>> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
>> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can 
>> be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
>> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends on 
>> your specific mixing environment.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of 
>>> accessibility plugin needed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good idea 
>>> to have for mixing down a project.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andre J.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Andre Jarreau]

Yes, Apogee support does not know how FlowTools works.  

My thought is if the APOGEE plugs into PT then regardless of of pass through, 
USB or Thunderbolt, FlowTools stands a chance of controlling it through PT.  

If anybody out there knows for sure one way or the other please let me know.

Thanks
Andre 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Martin
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:19 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Have you contacted Apogee Support?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman <musicbyalexcole...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andre,
> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact 
> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and 
> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my Element 
> 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected to my 
> Makbook Pro.
> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this 
> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my 
> problems are specific to my particular system.
> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
> 
> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their 
> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can 
> be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted 
> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends on 
> your specific mixing environment.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
>> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of 
>> accessibility plugin needed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good idea 
>> to have for mixing down a project.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andre J.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Andre Jarreau]

Hi Alex,

Just wanting to set up with a Mac Book Pro, I phones will be down the road.  Do 
you know the name of the IOS plugin?

Thanks,

Andre

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alex Coleman
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 8:04 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

Hi Andre,
Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact interface 
and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and allows you 
to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my Element 46, even 
though the iPhone app can see my Element connected to my Makbook Pro.
That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this list is 
using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my problems are specific 
to my particular system.
If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.

Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their stands, 
generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can be implemented to 
help eliminate any unwanted vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It 
all just depends on your specific mixing environment.

HTH


On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is 
> accessible using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of 
> accessibility plugin needed.
>
>
>
> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good idea 
> to have for mixing down a project.
>
>
>
> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>
>
>
> Andre J.
>
>
>
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Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Steve Martin]

Have you contacted Apogee Support?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Alex Coleman  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Andre,
> Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact
> interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
> There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and
> allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
> However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my Element
> 46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected to my
> Makbook Pro.
> That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this
> list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my
> problems are specific to my particular system.
> If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.
> 
> Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their
> stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can
> be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted
> vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends on
> your specific mixing environment.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
>> On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau  wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is accessible
>> using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of accessibility
>> plugin needed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good idea to
>> have for mixing down a project.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andre J.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: APOGEE Thunderbolt & monitor decoupling

[Alex Coleman]

Hi Andre,
Regarding the Apogee Element 46, I have recently purchased that exact
interface and am having issues setting it up using voiceover.
There is an IOS app that you can download that looks accessible and
allows you to set up your interface from an iPhone or iPad, etc.
However, I am having issues getting my iPhone to connect to my Element
46, even though the iPhone app can see my Element connected to my
Makbook Pro.
That being said, someone else (can't remember exactly who) on this
list is using the IOS app successfully, so I'm assuming that my
problems are specific to my particular system.
If I come up with a solution, I'll try to post an update.

Concerning your question about decoupling your monitors from their
stands, generally speaking, any type of additional isolation that can
be implemented to help eliminate any unwanted
vibrations/reflections/etc. would be advisable. It all just depends on
your specific mixing environment.

HTH


On 11/10/17, Andre Jarreau  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I am trying to find out if an APOGEE thunderbolt Element 46 is accessible
> using FlowTools-PT on a Mac Book Pro.  Or is some kind of accessibility
> plugin needed.
>
>
>
> Also trying to find out if monitor de-coupling stands are a good idea to
> have for mixing down a project.
>
>
>
> Thanks A to Z in advance.
>
>
>
> Andre J.
>
>
>
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