Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Dec 99, at 20:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would list a few things in sendmail's favor: 1) The ability to rewrite headers "up front" without requiring double delivery (once to a rewriting program, then again to the destination). Nice - but any program with root privileges doing header rewriting is a recipe for disaster. It also depends on what you mean by "delivery"; qmail's logic is much simpler, but internally sendmail will do "almost" the same, without giving you so many chances to inspect and debug. 1a) The ability to forward mail, up front Sorry? 2) The ability (even if theoretical) to deliver a message without fsync()ing it into the queue, unless absolutely necessary. I don't find that a plus... I prefer to stay on the safe side, rather than (potentially) losing messages for the sake of speed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBOFn+HlMwP8g7qbw/EQLr3gCZAe7ykE8JrVrdOUoqsmjMyRYiDggAoJm0 IjL3LrasrXgtNEYi9Znmfktz =IcLp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antek.cz PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk. [Tom Waits]
Re: Virus scanning
"Shawn P. Stanley" wrote: I've seen lots of mail on this list about patching to get various virus scanners to work, and the goofy things they do once they do work. Is there a recommended virus scanner for qmail that's not too difficult to set up? Been working on this, and got it working. 1 - get amavis from http://www.amavis.org 2 - get McAfee from http://www.nai.com/asp_set/buy_try/try/products_evals.asp 3 - read http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/1999/10/msg01093.html I'm not good at this, but I had to use "patch -l" to patch scanmails.in... I've made myself a cron-job which get updates of dat-files to the virusscanner from ftp://ftp.mcafee.com/pub/datfiles/english. Thanks to people on the list, espesially Dustin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Christopher Seawood [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- /hans
local address used as spam sender
Hi, Someone used a non-existent address in our domain ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) to send spam and we're getting hundreds of bounced messages, which in turn are double-bounced because the mailbox does not exist. I have temporarily redirected these bounced messages to a file by creating an alias, to get rid of the double-bounces. What's the best way to deal with this? The spammer even used msc.net.ph in the greeting, but the receiving server was able to record the IP as 152.200.184.186. Received: from msc.net.ph (98C8B8BA.ipt.aol.com [152.200.184.186]) by mailqwest.qwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA07910 mail_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:22:41 -0700 (MST) Attached at the bottom is the entire message. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Gil Prudente -- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mailqwest.qwest.net (mailqwest.qwest.net [199.117.27.2]) by mx4-e.mail.home.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA27497; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:22:48 -0800 (PST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from msc.net.ph (98C8B8BA.ipt.aol.com [152.200.184.186]) by mailqwest.qwest.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA07910 mail_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:22:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: Who's next? Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:25:54 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Increase your revenues by up to 1500% by accepting credit cards electronic checks! Minimal Credit Requirements ~ Prior Bankruptcy OK! ~ Internet Business New Start ups ~ Home Office ~ Mail / Phone Order ~ Retail Stores 99% approval! ~ No set-up fees! ~ Low monthly fees ~ Full Warranty! Transactions processed credited directly to your bank electronically ~ Custome r service 24/7! (Note - This Is Not An Application For Personal Credit Cards) (Sorry - This Offer Only Applies To U.S. Residents) Click Below For More Information! http://216.33.20.4/bc2/rhndfg93/index.html
Fwd: Re: Is there an update on the qmail book
Has anyone heard about the release date of the O'Reilly qmail book? I'm really looking forward to this book as I am having trouble finding good documentation on the Net. Wow, I haven't heard anything about a qmail book... if there is truly one in the makings, anyone know who the author might be? Andy Hi, in "SAGE-AU July 1999" I found the hint, that Jhon Levine and Russel Nelson are the writers, may be published in Sep. 1999 by O'Reilly... but not seen yet here... Eckehard
Re: local address used as spam sender
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Dec 99, at 17:13, Gil Prudente wrote: Someone used a non-existent address in our domain ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) to send spam and we're getting hundreds of bounced messages, which in turn are double-bounced because the mailbox does not exist. Pity you. I have temporarily redirected these bounced messages to a file by creating an alias, to get rid of the double-bounces. That looks like a reasonable way to do. The even more reasonable way would be to find out the recipient of the bounce, and point _that_ account to bit hell (/dev/null). You don't have to generate the second bounce, and you're not missing some (more important) double bounces. What's the best way to deal with this? The spammer even used msc.net.ph in the greeting, but the receiving server was able to record the IP as 152.200.184.186. Not much to do. It's a feature (agruably weakness) of SMTP protocol. You can only trace further 152.200.184.186, and undertake legal action or something, but you need to live with the bounces. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBOFoSuFMwP8g7qbw/EQJU7QCeL1XVNFxF5mYseS8TgrO8IPF7hhsAoMK8 oeY4nPoc/urnWr+pm3xiJdDQ =VVsq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antek.cz PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk. [Tom Waits]
Re: local address used as spam sender
Petr Novotny wrote: That looks like a reasonable way to do. The even more reasonable way would be to find out the recipient of the bounce, and point _that_ account to bit hell (/dev/null). You don't have to generate the second bounce, and you're not missing some (more important) double bounces. Tried putting /dev/null in the .qmail but I get this error: Error_while_writing_message._(#4.3.0) Any ideas? Haven't had time to search the docs/web though. What's the best way to deal with this? The spammer even used msc.net.ph in the greeting, but the receiving server was able to record the IP as 152.200.184.186. Not much to do. It's a feature (agruably weakness) of SMTP protocol. You can only trace further 152.200.184.186, and undertake legal action or something, but you need to live with the bounces. If my trace is right, it is from an AOL dialup. Do you think they will be cooperative in tracing the actual user? Anyway, thanks for the reply. -- Gil Prudente
Re: local address used as spam sender
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petr Novotny wrote: That looks like a reasonable way to do. The even more reasonable way would be to find out the recipient of the bounce, and point _that_ account to bit hell (/dev/null). You don't have to generate the second bounce, and you're not missing some (more important) double bounces. Tried putting /dev/null in the .qmail but I get this error: Error_while_writing_message._(#4.3.0) Any ideas? Haven't had time to search the docs/web though. make .qmail an empty file, or a file with only comments. I think that will do What's the best way to deal with this? The spammer even used msc.net.ph in the greeting, but the receiving server was able to record the IP as 152.200.184.186. Not much to do. It's a feature (agruably weakness) of SMTP protocol. You can only trace further 152.200.184.186, and undertake legal action or something, but you need to live with the bounces. If my trace is right, it is from an AOL dialup. Do you think they will be cooperative in tracing the actual user? Anyway, thanks for the reply. -- Gil Prudente -- /hans
qmail Digest 17 Dec 1999 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 852
qmail Digest 17 Dec 1999 11:00:00 - Issue 852 Topics (messages 34406 through 34462): More troubleshooting a new qmail installation 34406 by: Mike Payson 34414 by: Dave Sill DUL list and smtproutes 34407 by: Subba Rao 34430 by: cmikk.uswest.net Re: Allow RELAY by MAIL FROM 34408 by: Chris Johnson 34409 by: Greg Owen 34413 by: Mark Maggelet Giving up on ... 34410 by: olli 34412 by: Charles Cazabon Mailer daemon mail, how to handle? 34411 by: Greg Moeller 34416 by: Andy Bradford Q-Cards 34415 by: Dave Kitabjian Sorry, but new here 34417 by: Eckehard Schulze 34419 by: Dave Sill Is there an update on the qmail book 34418 by: Albert Hopkins 34423 by: Dave Kitabjian 34454 by: Andy Bradford 34459 by: Eckehard Schulze Failed a relay test? 34420 by: Dustin Miller 34421 by: Dave Sill 34422 by: Dustin Miller 34424 by: Dave Sill 34425 by: Dustin Miller 34426 by: Dustin Miller 34427 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl Re: Patching qmail 34428 by: Daniel Mattos Virus scanning 34429 by: Shawn P. Stanley 34457 by: Hans Sandsdalen Re: .qmail files 34431 by: Jack O'Toole Problems sending to local virtual domains 34432 by: Oscar Arranz Re: IMAP and Mysql ! 34433 by: David Harris Upgrading 34434 by: M. Richardson Re: AMaViS working ... almost 34435 by: Chris L. Mason Sendmail vs Qmail? 34436 by: Darren Foo 34437 by: Matthew Brown 34439 by: John Gonzalez/netMDC admin 34440 by: Sam 34445 by: abc 34446 by: cmikk.uswest.net 34449 by: Russell Nelson 34451 by: Ram Prasad 34452 by: Russell Nelson 34456 by: Petr Novotny RELAYCLIENT domains? 34438 by: Elliott Freis Forward all but one address ? 34441 by: John Grant (Concordant Networks) Using Qmail as a dedicated SMTP/POP3 server... 34442 by: Roy Sandgren 34443 by: Patrick Berry Re: Mac conflict? 3 by: Florian G. Pflug (no subject) 34447 by: Stephan Weaver Here are your coupons 34448 by: rureddy.altavista.com 34455 by: Andy Bradford sendmail to qmail 34450 by: Yamin Prabudy alert:unable to opendir mess/0 34453 by: Kristina local address used as spam sender 34458 by: Gil Prudente 34460 by: Petr Novotny 34461 by: reservations.filonline.com 34462 by: Hans Sandsdalen Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ok, I decided to back up a bit start over using the instructions in Life with qmail instead of those in the how-to. Everything looks fine, but I'm still having one problem. Whenever I execute 'qmail start' it returns with supervise help messages (supervise: usage:...), and 'ps x' shows the four supervise processes as zombies. Attempting to inject a mail message has no effect. Any idea what's up now? Thanks! Mike Mike Payson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I decided to back up a bit start over using the instructions in Life with qmail instead of those in the how-to. Everything looks fine, but I'm still having one problem. Whenever I execute 'qmail start' it returns with supervise help messages (supervise: usage:...), and 'ps x' shows the four supervise processes as zombies. Attempting to inject a mail message has no effect. Any idea what's up now? Sounds like a version mismatch between the "qmail" script and daemontools. LWQ originally worked with daemontools 0.53. The current version works with daemontools 0.61. Recheck LWQ and the version of deamontools you have installed, and make sure they match. -Dave I am currently using dial-up connection for Internet and Intranet access. For Internet mail, I have defined my isp's smtp server in smtproutes file. For Intranet mail, I would prefer to use another smtp server. Is that possible? Can smtproutes be different for different user accounts? Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ = Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. = http://www.smcinnovations.com On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 08:56:20 -0500 , Subba Rao writes: I am currently using dial-up connection for Internet and Intranet access. For Internet mail, I have defined my isp's smtp server in smtproutes file. For Intranet mail, I would prefer to use another smtp server. Is that possible ? Can smtproutes be different for different user accounts? It can be different for different destination addresses, that is all. So, if your intranet mail is typically to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Re: local address used as spam sender
Not much to do. It's a feature (agruably weakness) of SMTP protocol. You can only trace further 152.200.184.186, and undertake legal action or something, but you need to live with the bounces. If my trace is right, it is from an AOL dialup. Do you think they will be cooperative in tracing the actual user? A better way would be to report them to the server that hosts the page they are advertising: Click Below For More Information! http://216.33.20.4/bc2/rhndfg93/index.html Which turns out to be bigip.angelfire.com. This way, the (few?) people who actually follow the ad and try to get "more information" will find a lovely 404 error... Paulo Jan. DDnet.
Re: sendmail to qmail
* Yamin Prabudy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [17 Dec 1999 01:28]: How to convert the mbox format to Maildir format I need to convert my sendmail format to qmail with Maildir Go to the qmail WWW site (www.qmail.org) and fetch either the convert-and-create (for many users) or convert a single user links. They are both perl scripts. -- Quist ConsultingEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 219 Donlea DriveVoice: +1.416.696.7600 Toronto ON M4G 2N1 Fax: +1.416.978.6620 CANADA WWW: http://www.quist.on.ca
Re: Forward all but one address ?
John Grant (Concordant Networks) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 000301bf4824$aead9fe0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:000301bf4824$aead9fe0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Well after a successful installation that receives email for a domain and just sends it on to the real server I have hit a snag. Current fix: smtproutes contains the following: domain_to_relay.com:server_to_relay_to Alas *one* email address at domain_to_relay.com has to stay local to my server (without getting relayed on and then back (tried that approach). Anyone have a good suggestion how to relay all, but that one special address ? John, Here's what I did to solve a similar situation. 1. Setup the domain as a virtual domain using vpopmail 2. Make the default delivery option to deliver to a Maildir, eg, in /home/vpopmail/domains/domain_to_relay.com/.qmail-default: | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /home/vpopmail/domains/domain_to_relay.com/domain-default 3. Use maildirsmtp running under supervise to send all mail from the Maildir to the required server. Any addresses that you want to keep local you can handle by either creating a new virtual user (vadduser) or creating a .qmail-user file in the /home/vpopmail/domains/domain_to_relay.com HTH, R.
Re: local address used as spam sender
Thanks for the tip. I just wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] to report their abusive tenant. sigh The onslaught of bounce messages (which now goes to bit hell) still continues as I write. What a terrible waste of bandwidth :( Thanks for all those who helped! --Gil Prudente Paulo Jan wrote: Not much to do. It's a feature (agruably weakness) of SMTP protocol. You can only trace further 152.200.184.186, and undertake legal action or something, but you need to live with the bounces. If my trace is right, it is from an AOL dialup. Do you think they will be cooperative in tracing the actual user? A better way would be to report them to the server that hosts the page they are advertising: Click Below For More Information! http://216.33.20.4/bc2/rhndfg93/index.html Which turns out to be bigip.angelfire.com. This way, the (few?) people who actually follow the ad and try to get "more information" will find a lovely 404 error... Paulo Jan. DDnet.
Re: local address used as spam sender
Hi, My customer is using an other isp where this domain is hosted. Now it wants to change to my isp. He is using a dialup connection with the other isp and has a Lotus Notes Server in its local network. The NT, where Notes runs, makes a dialup connection from time to time and receive incoming messages and send outgoing messages. How do I need to configure my qmail to do this job? I think that the username is controlled by Notes and I don't need to worry about usernames, right? Is a kind of this: *@domain.com === goes to a normal pop account and the Notes reads only this account? /var/control/virtualdomains: domain.com:domain-com /home/domain-com .qmail-default ./Maildir/ The notes reads only the user domain-com, right? Best regards, Ari
Help with Lotus Notes
Hi, Sorry about last message, I didn't change the subject... My customer is using an other isp where this domain is hosted. Now it wants to change to my isp. He is using a dialup connection with the other isp and has a Lotus Notes Server in its local network. The NT, where Notes runs, makes a dialup connection from time to time and receive incoming messages and send outgoing messages. How do I need to configure my qmail to do this job? I think that the username is controlled by Notes and I don't need to worry about usernames, right? Is a kind of this: *@domain.com === goes to a normal pop account and the Notes reads only this account? /var/control/virtualdomains: domain.com:domain-com /home/domain-com .qmail-default ./Maildir/ The notes reads only the user domain-com, right? Best regards, Ari
Re: Help with Lotus Notes
Hi Ari, be carefull with this: make sure, the customer has the pop3 module for his lotus notes server. this is a rather expensive addon! standard lotus notes is AFAIK only smtp. so your customer needs his own IP address for ETRN or you will mangle around with some autoturn solutions. alex Ursprüngliche Nachricht Am 12/17/99, 1:42:18 PM, schrieb "Ari Arantes Filho" [EMAIL PROTECTED] zum Thema Help with Lotus Notes: Hi, Sorry about last message, I didn't change the subject... My customer is using an other isp where this domain is hosted. Now it wants to change to my isp. He is using a dialup connection with the other isp and has a Lotus Notes Server in its local network. The NT, where Notes runs, makes a dialup connection from time to time and receive incoming messages and send outgoing messages. How do I need to configure my qmail to do this job? I think that the username is controlled by Notes and I don't need to worry about usernames, right? Is a kind of this: *@domain.com === goes to a normal pop account and the Notes reads only this account? /var/control/virtualdomains: domain.com:domain-com /home/domain-com .qmail-default ./Maildir/ The notes reads only the user domain-com, right? Best regards, Ari
control
hello good day. im getting alot of trouble sendmail mail with qmail. i am on a dial up and it keeps trying to sendmail to -localhost-.my.fqdn.com. and i dont got SOA on the fqdn so i cant make localhost., can someone please help me out? Dec 17 09:09:36 weaver qmail: 945436176.584467 delivery 25: failure: Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_localhost.tstt.net.tt._(#5.1.2)/
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
On 17 Dec 1999 08:10:26 - , "Petr Novotny" writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Dec 99, at 20:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would list a few things in sendmail's favor: 1) The ability to rewrite headers "up front" without requiring double delivery (once to a rewriting program, then again to the destination). Nice - but any program with root privileges doing header rewriting is a recipe for disaster. Well, perhaps -- it does make existing security holes potentially more damaging. The inability to do header rewriting without making two trips through the queue causes a severe performance hit, if you are doing anything other than low volume. It also depends on what you mean by "delivery"; qmail's logic is much simpler, but internally sendmail will do "almost" the same, without giving you so many chances to inspect and debug. By delivery, I mean "a call to qmail-inject" (two fsyncs). 1a) The ability to forward mail, up front Sorry? That is forwarding with only one trip through the queue. 2) The ability (even if theoretical) to deliver a message without fsync()ing it into the queue, unless absolutely necessary. I don't find that a plus... I prefer to stay on the safe side, rather than (potentially) losing messages for the sake of speed. Such an approach is not necessarily unsafe. Unsafe means that messages can be lost after they are acknowledged. If the message is successfully delivered before acknowledgement is given, then enqueueing the message is unnecessary. -- Chris Mikkelson | Problems are posed by fools like me; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | But only Heuristics can search a tree.
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Dec 99, at 7:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The inability to do header rewriting without making two trips through the queue causes a severe performance hit, if you are doing anything other than low volume. Rewriting headers of all messages is a severe performance hit. Or can you instruct sendmail not to? I couldn't find how. That is forwarding with only one trip through the queue. You mean reading "aliases" before delivering, and therefore deciding to forward immediately? Maybe with some tweaking, the current virtualdomains code might do that. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBOFpKG1MwP8g7qbw/EQJcNwCePkJBjeIcFTQMkmNWYii56dpwuDMAoNMr s/aolVCZ8f+qtcheSvSLnK7D =xgCs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Petr Novotny, ANTEK CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.antek.cz PGP key ID: 0x3BA9BC3F -- Don't you know there ain't no devil there's just God when he's drunk. [Tom Waits]
Re: local address used as spam sender
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 17:13:09 +0800 , Gil Prudente writes: Someone used a non-existent address in our domain ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) to send spam and we're getting hundreds of bounced messages, which in turn are double-bounced because the mailbox does not exist. I have temporarily redirected these bounced messages to a file by creating an alias, to get rid of the double-bounces. I think that is the best way to deal with it. The alias's .qmail- file contains only '#', right? The only way to do better would be to patch smtpd (I think there is a "badrcptto" patch floating around somewhere) so that it would reject the bounce messages up front. -- Chris Mikkelson | Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux: Where do you want to go tomorrow? | FreeBSD: Are you guys coming or what?
Re: Sorry, but new here
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 12:08:18PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I start without going in trouble too much? Are there any tips to start? Start with "Life with qmail": http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/qmail.html German translation coming soon. -Dave Hi, this arrived right in time. Saved a lot of work here. THANKS. bye, -- Stephan Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DG1EES -- amprnet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Essen, Germany6°E 56.479' 51°N 28.040' [JO31LL]
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
On 17 Dec 1999 13:34:39 - , "Petr Novotny" writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Dec 99, at 7:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The inability to do header rewriting without making two trips through the queue causes a severe performance hit, if you are doing anything other than low volume. Rewriting headers of all messages is a severe performance hit. Or can you instruct sendmail not to? I couldn't find how. Rewriting headers chews up CPU. Re-enqueueing the message (in qmail) causes between 4 and 5 (serial) fsyncs, which pretty much dwarfs any latency introduced by scanning and rewriting the headers of the message. That is forwarding with only one trip through the queue. You mean reading "aliases" before delivering, and therefore deciding to forward immediately? Maybe with some tweaking, the current virtualdomains code might do that. Yep, that's pretty much what I mean. Unfortunately, it severely violates qmail's "philosophy." -- Chris Mikkelson | ... a pet peeve of mine is people who directly edit [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the .cf file instead of using the m4 configuration | files ... I treat the .cf file as a binary file | - you should too. --- Eric Allman
question about hotmail and envelop sender
Greeting all! here got 2 problem about qmail-send. 1.i setup my own email server several month ago but now some weird problem when Isend email to [EMAIL PROTECTED],following is error info return back my mail damon: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:216.33.151.135 failed after I sent the message.Remote host said: 554 Transaction failed --- when I try to telnet to hotmail, the result is the same. why? 2.how could I set the envelop sender since I use qmail in my cgi script like open(MAIL,"|/usr/local/qmail/bin/qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED]") || die $!; print MAIL "blah blah"; close(MAIL); it seems NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] but [EMAIL PROTECTED],how to change it?I've tried lwq and manpage but no file seems for it. Thanks.
Re: question about hotmail and envelop sender
I'm too! Don't know how Hotmail can serve millions account! Dong -Original Message- From: Li Hong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 17, 1999 8:54 PM Subject: question about hotmail and envelop sender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 216.33.151.135 failed after I sent the message. Remote host said: 554 Transaction failed ---
Re: Forward all but one address ?
John,
I'm not sure this is exactly what you are looking for, but I have an
alternate solution to your problem.
If you remove the smtproutes entry, and enter the following into
virtualhosts:
domain_to_relay.com:relaydomain
Then all mail bound for domain_to_relay.com can be forwarded by
~relaydomain/.qmail-default (which can contain):
| forward ${EXT}@server_to_relay_to.domain.com
And you can make as many exceptions as you like to this rule, e.g.
~relaydomain/.qmail-admin (which could contain):
./Maildir/
or whatever delivery address you would prefer.
Now the only problem with this solution is that your message makes two
trips through the queue--if it's not a heavily loaded box, then you are
set.
Good luck,
-Martin
--
Martin A. Brown --- Wonderfrog Enterprises --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, John Grant (Concordant Networks) wrote:
--Well after a successful installation that receives
--email for a domain and just sends it on to the real server I have hit a snag.
--
--Current fix: smtproutes contains the following:
--
--domain_to_relay.com:server_to_relay_to
--
--Alas *one* email address at domain_to_relay.com
--has to stay local to my server (without getting relayed
--on and then back (tried that approach).
--
--Anyone have a good suggestion how to relay all,
--but that one special address ?
--
-
--
-- John
Re: control
Well,the fqdn means Full Qualified Domain Name,please take a look at Dave Sill's Life With Qmail file which you could find via www.qmail.com/top.html and it will solve this problem and further one. - Original Message - From: Stephan Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: c Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:17 PM Subject: control hello good day. im getting alot of trouble sendmail mail with qmail. i am on a dial up and it keeps trying to sendmail to -localhost-.my.fqdn.com. and i dont got SOA on the fqdn so i cant make localhost., can someone please help me out? Dec 17 09:09:36 weaver qmail: 945436176.584467 delivery 25: failure: Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_named_localhost.tstt.net.tt._(#5.1.2)/
Re: Help with Lotus Notes
On 17 Dec 99, at 13:06, Alexander Jernejcic wrote: Hi Ari, be carefull with this: make sure, the customer has the pop3 module for his lotus notes server. this is a rather expensive addon! Since Notes Release 4.5 there will be Servertasks for smtp, pop3, imap and ldap. Notes is also able to use a vendor-specific service on Port 1352 for replication of Notes-Databases and the delivery of mail. If your customer uses this services Notes will do all of the dialup stuff (not NT) and the ISP must also host a Notesserver (for collecting and sending the mail). So check that your customer has configured and started an Notes smtp-mta for generic smtp mailservices. A Problem regarding this solution would be that Notes will send all outgoing mail directly with queuing it for a later delivery! It would be a good idea using a small Linux-Box at the customers side running qmail (as mail-proxy), and for dail-up/serialmail. Perhaps you should also add an HTTP-Proxy as special service for new customers ;- - Roland
Re: Help with Lotus Notes
On 17 Dec 99, at 16:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mailservices. A Problem regarding this solution would be that Notes will send all outgoing mail directly with queuing it for a later delivery! Sorry typo!!! Notes send all mail directly **without** queuing it for later delivery. It would be a good idea using a small Linux-Box at the customers side running qmail (as mail-proxy), and for dail-up/serialmail. Perhaps you should also add an HTTP-Proxy as special service for new customers ;- - Roland
Re: dumping msgs to the BBBB
a .qmail file that only contains comments will achieve what you are after. .qmail: # works very nicely. :) On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Keith Warno wrote: == "Big Black Bit Bucket", AKA, /dev/null I remember seeing something on the list about how to do this; apologies in advance. I would like to send a user's mail (either a real user or non-existant user) silently to /dev/null. I'm assuming that an appropriately-named .qmail file with a /dev/null will work; however I was pretty sure there was a more "elegant" way of doing it. Something involving a pound sign maybe? Thanks. /* ** Keith Warno ** Make Us An Offer, Inc. ** Real-Time Online Haggling ** http://www.makeusanoffer.com/ */ - Timothy L. Mayo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Administrator localconnect(sm) http://www.localconnect.net/ The National Business Network Inc. http://www.nb.net/ One Monroeville Center, Suite 850 Monroeville, PA 15146 (412) 810- Phone (412) 810-8886 Fax
Re: dumping msgs to the BBBB
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:18:32 -0500 , "Keith Warno" writes: I remember seeing something on the list about how to do this; apologies in advance. I would like to send a user's mail (either a real user or non-existant user) silently to /dev/null. I'm assuming that an appropriately-named .qmail file with a /dev/null will work; however I was pretty sure there was a more "elegant" way of doing it. Something involving a pound sign maybe? Yes, just put a # sign in the .qmail file. The # sign is treated as a comment, and the .qmail file is nonempty, so it is taken to contain instructions. Since it has no instructions, the message is just dropped. -- Chris Mikkelson | If you throw your bread upon the waters, it shall come [EMAIL PROTECTED] | back threefold, but only if you are willing to throw the | recipe upon the waters as well... -- Terry Lambert
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
According to the new book "Programming Internet Email" by Wood at
O'Reilly, qmail does not satisfy the needs of a large company with
complex needs---only sendmail does. See bottom of page 17.
According to Dan's surveys, "everyone" is 65% and dropping.
It seems that the droppage is due to people starting to use
Post.Office more than any other MTA (1:10 = PO:sendmail ; 1:20 =
qmail:sendmail). Also, much more site *started* to use sendmail than
qmail---or any other MTA.
Finally the last survey on Dan's site is more than one year old.
1997:
6531 sendmail
72 Post.Office
70 Netscape Mail Server, same as Post.Office
51 qmail
1998:
11583 sendmail
1102 Post.Office
778 IMail
638 MS Exchange
566 NT Mail
552 qmail
511 Netscape Messaging Server, formerly Netscape Mail Server
Despite all these RedHat is still using qmail on its list server. Not
only that, lately, they even doubled the number of hosted lists. Are
they nuts?
As their most significant shareholder ($25,000 on a $1,400 August
investment), I think I am entitled to ask some tough questions.
Indeed, RH went as far as trying to buy Corel just so that (rumor has
it) finally they could distribute qmail.
Finally my own stat
# cat xferlog|grep "var-qmail-create-1.03-102memphis.src.rpm"|
awk '{print $7,$9}'|sort -u|wc -l
1859
since Sept 1.
Mate
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
I would think the needs of a large company would include the ability to
prevent a mail server from being used as an open relay by spammers. I was
unable to block spammers with the latest and greatest version of sendmail.
A number of people use sendmail because:
1) It's more flexible than smail was;
2) It comes with Linux.
Most people won't go out of their way to replace their mail server. I'm
guessing that's why sendmail still rates so high.
As for the intentions of RedHat when trying to purchase Corel, I thought it
had more to do with WordPerfect and other related office tools. Such tools
are everything in the Linux vs. Microsoft market share war.
- Original Message -
From: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Qmail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
According to the new book "Programming Internet Email" by Wood at
O'Reilly, qmail does not satisfy the needs of a large company with
complex needs---only sendmail does. See bottom of page 17.
According to Dan's surveys, "everyone" is 65% and dropping.
It seems that the droppage is due to people starting to use
Post.Office more than any other MTA (1:10 = PO:sendmail ; 1:20 =
qmail:sendmail). Also, much more site *started* to use sendmail than
qmail---or any other MTA.
Finally the last survey on Dan's site is more than one year old.
1997:
6531 sendmail
72 Post.Office
70 Netscape Mail Server, same as Post.Office
51 qmail
1998:
11583 sendmail
1102 Post.Office
778 IMail
638 MS Exchange
566 NT Mail
552 qmail
511 Netscape Messaging Server, formerly Netscape Mail Server
Despite all these RedHat is still using qmail on its list server. Not
only that, lately, they even doubled the number of hosted lists. Are
they nuts?
As their most significant shareholder ($25,000 on a $1,400 August
investment), I think I am entitled to ask some tough questions.
Indeed, RH went as far as trying to buy Corel just so that (rumor has
it) finally they could distribute qmail.
Finally my own stat
# cat xferlog|grep "var-qmail-create-1.03-102memphis.src.rpm"|
awk '{print $7,$9}'|sort -u|wc -l
1859
since Sept 1.
Mate
Limit POP3 and SMTP service !
Hi , I have installed qmail 1.03 and it works fine ! but I want some feature that can't find it . 1- I want that relay mail based on the sender domain name . For example I have install this qmail server on morva.net domain and want to don't deliver mails that are not have [EMAIL PROTECTED] form . It means only morva.net users can use our smtp server . 2- The log file will be show me that the qmaild user send a mail when I use pop3 service . It means that I can get uid of user that use pop3 service and logon to the pop3 server and send a mail . How can I find out that which uid use pop3 and send a mail ? Thank You so much Hamid Hashemi Morva.net Admin
Re: 550 cannot route to sender
On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 12:35:42PM +0100, Nagy Balazs wrote: ;; ANSWER SECTION: col7.metta.lk. 3h21m IN NS server1.tradenetsl.lk. col7.metta.lk. 3h21m IN NS dhamma.metta.lk. col7.metta.lk. 3h31m35s IN MX 10 metta.lk. col7.metta.lk. 23h58m23s IN A 172.16.1.1 // This is a problem. You have to erase the A record from the // outer metta.lk zone. That server can store all messages which come // to col7 to a folder (ie. ~alias/172.16.1.1/), but qmail doesn't have // to have that dns entry. Without the A record in the zone file when I do a "nslookup col7.metta.lk" I get host not found If i put the A record back in the zone file then it is ok Yes, it's OK for you and just for you only. You have to have two zone files. One is for you and one is for the others. For you you can put the A record into the zone field, but for others you have to use just an MX record for that domain. Below is my col7.metta.lk zone file. Would it be ok to put the ip of metta.lk as an A record inplace of the 172.16.1.1 entry. Please see the sample below. If you give outer (eg. to the internet) name service, *don't put* local IP addresses to zone file. $ORIGIN col7.metta.lk. $TTL86400 @ IN SOA narada.col7.metta.lk. hostmaster.col7.metta.lk. ( 1999120601 ; serial 3600 ; refresh 900 ; retry 1209600 ; expire 43200 ; default_ttl ) IN NS metta.lk. IN NS server1.tradenetsl.lk. IN MX 10 metta.lk. //***IN A 172.16.1.1 //***IN A 203.115.29.130 narada.col7.metta.lk. IN CNAME col7.metta.lk. Which is the latter A record? Is that your outer port? My opinion is to do like this: ++ ++ |172.16. | |203.115.| | 1.1 |-modem-|29.130 |=== internet || || ++ ++ Put col7.metta.lk MX 10 metta.lk to 203.115.29.130's metta.lk zone file, and put a col7.metta.lk:172.16.1.1 line (or sort of) to metta.lk's /var/qmail/control/smtproutes. You can do anything else too but don't forget not to mention col7.metta.lk for 172.16.1.1. Then, at your site you can do any record as you like as long as none of your name service zones are delegated. I could also remove the col7.metta.lk zone file and make a CNAME in the metta.lk zone file. Which of the 2 ways is the correct way ? It depends on what you like. -- Regards: Kevin (Balazs) @ synergon
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 10:35:09AM -0600, Shawn P. Stanley wrote: As for the intentions of RedHat when trying to purchase Corel, I thought it had more to do with WordPerfect and other related office tools. Such tools are everything in the Linux vs. Microsoft market share war. Sorry, I thought it was clear that I was kidding. But the rest of my message contained facts---but to interpret them properly, please note I have been using qmail exclusively since 1996---despite the fact that our University switched to postoffice. Mate
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
Why is postoffice so popular? - Original Message - From: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shawn P. Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Qmail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Sendmail vs Qmail? On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 10:35:09AM -0600, Shawn P. Stanley wrote: As for the intentions of RedHat when trying to purchase Corel, I thought it had more to do with WordPerfect and other related office tools. Such tools are everything in the Linux vs. Microsoft market share war. Sorry, I thought it was clear that I was kidding. But the rest of my message contained facts---but to interpret them properly, please note I have been using qmail exclusively since 1996---despite the fact that our University switched to postoffice. Mate
Re: local address used as spam sender
At 11:55 AM 12/17/99 +0100, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried putting /dev/null in the .qmail but I get this error: Error_while_writing_message._(#4.3.0) Any ideas? Haven't had time to search the docs/web though. make .qmail an empty file, or a file with only comments. I think that will do I tried this out myself, and got the following results: .qmail-devnull: /dev/null Dec 17 09:38:28 gateway qmail: 945452308.624155 new msg 11946 Dec 17 09:38:28 gateway qmail: 945452308.624751 info msg 11946: bytes 844 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 13051 uid 0 Dec 17 09:38:28 gateway qmail: 945452308.738177 starting delivery 3156: msg 11946 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 17 09:38:28 gateway qmail: 945452308.738579 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 09:38:29 gateway qmail: 945452309.096620 delivery 3156: deferral: Unable_to_write_/dev/null:_invalid_argument._(#4.3.0)/ Dec 17 09:38:29 gateway qmail: 945452309.097114 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Changed the .qmail file and -ALRMed qmail-send. .qmail-devnull: |/dev/null Dec 17 09:39:18 gateway qmail: 945452358.762283 starting delivery 3157: msg 11946 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 17 09:39:18 gateway qmail: 945452358.762783 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 09:39:19 gateway qmail: 945452359.053363 delivery 3157: deferral: /bin/sh:_/dev/null:_Permission_denied/ Dec 17 09:39:19 gateway qmail: 945452359.053850 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Finally, another try: .qmail-devnull: # Comment. Deliver to /dev/null? Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.275136 starting delivery 3165: msg 1194 6 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.275647 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.332010 delivery 3165: success: did_0+0+0/ Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.363332 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.363701 end msg 11946 I did not try an empty file, as man dot-qmail states: If .qmail is completely empty (0 bytes long), or does not exist, qmail-local follows the defaultdelivery instruc tions set by your system administrator; normally default delivery is ./Mailbox, so qmail-local appends the mail message to Mailbox in mbox format. However, the documentation doesn't say anything about delivering to /dev/null if it finds only a comment line. (Indeed, I suspect that qmail-local is simply silently discarding the message, rather than explicitly attempting delivery to /dev/null.) While it may be deducible that a .qmail file consisting of only one comment line (or of only comment lines) would result in silent discarding of messages, perhaps it should be made explicitly clear in the documentation? It isn't intuitively obvious, especially since it differs from qmail-local's behavior in the case of an empty (but present) .qmail file. - Kai MacTane System Administrator Online Partners.com, Inc. - From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996) feature shock /n./ [from Alvin Toffler's book title "Future Shock"] A user's (or programmer's!) confusion when confronted with a package that has too many features and poor introductory material.
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
Post.Office is simple, it runs under NT, any idiot can set it up, and it's user interface is better then the current web-configurators for qmail/sendmail/anything else I've seen. It's also crappy. Delivery is slow, can't grow well past about 200 users, can't handle large volumes of email, doesn't log nearly enough data to track a message. It's capable of losing messages in daily operations. In other words, beats me. -Peter On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 11:04:31AM -0600, Shawn P. Stanley wrote: Why is postoffice so popular? - Original Message - From: Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shawn P. Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Qmail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:02 AM Subject: Re: Sendmail vs Qmail? On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 10:35:09AM -0600, Shawn P. Stanley wrote: As for the intentions of RedHat when trying to purchase Corel, I thought it had more to do with WordPerfect and other related office tools. Such tools are everything in the Linux vs. Microsoft market share war. Sorry, I thought it was clear that I was kidding. But the rest of my message contained facts---but to interpret them properly, please note I have been using qmail exclusively since 1996---despite the fact that our University switched to postoffice. Mate -- The 5 year plan: In five years we'll make up another plan. Or just re-use this one.
Re: local address used as spam sender
On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 09:53:53AM -0800, Kai MacTane wrote: At 11:55 AM 12/17/99 +0100, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried putting /dev/null in the .qmail but I get this error: Error_while_writing_message._(#4.3.0) Any ideas? Haven't had time to search the docs/web though. make .qmail an empty file, or a file with only comments. Comments. Empty file will trigger default instructions. .qmail-devnull: /dev/null Should work theoretically, I think... [snip] .qmail-devnull: |/dev/null Is complete and utter bullshit. [snip] .qmail-devnull: # Comment. Deliver to /dev/null? Discards the message as requested. Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.275136 starting delivery 3165: msg 1194 6 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.275647 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.332010 delivery 3165: success: did_0+0+0/ Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.363332 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 09:44:24 gateway qmail: 945452664.363701 end msg 11946 I did not try an empty file, as man dot-qmail states: If .qmail is completely empty (0 bytes long), or does not exist, qmail-local follows the defaultdelivery instruc tions set by your system administrator; normally default delivery is ./Mailbox, so qmail-local appends the mail message to Mailbox in mbox format. However, the documentation doesn't say anything about delivering to /dev/null if it finds only a comment line. (Indeed, I suspect that qmail-local is simply silently discarding the message, rather than explicitly attempting delivery to /dev/null.) I don't know where I've read it, but it's true :) While it may be deducible that a .qmail file consisting of only one comment line (or of only comment lines) would result in silent discarding of messages, perhaps it should be made explicitly clear in the documentation? I think that would be a good idea :) It isn't intuitively obvious, especially since it differs from qmail-local's behavior in the case of an empty (but present) .qmail file. Correct. Greetz, Peter. -- Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/womanizer/pretending coder | | 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; | C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.' | Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++
New worm virus: W32.NewApt.Worm
With all the talk about virus scanning on incomming mail/etc I thought I'd add this little piece. In the event that you do not scan incomming mail and are hit by this or another virus, the following little shell script will allow you to locate and remove the infected emails from a customers maildir before they download their email. #!/bin/sh for i in /export/vpopmail/domains/$1/$2* do for x in $i/Maildir/new/* do grep "http://stuart.messagemates.com/index.html" $x /dev/null 21 if [ $? -eq 0 ] then mv $x /export/badmail/ echo $x /export/badmail/infected.log fi done done --- Syntax is './filter.sh your domain directory letter from a to z'. This allows you to check maildirs for all users whose login begins with whatever letter you specify. Run multiple copies to scan more maildirs faster if your server can handle, or if you run multiple front end mail servers delivering to the same nfs mail store. This script is setup for vchkpw/vpopmail with multiple domains. You may need to edit it for the correct path and destination for the infected emails to be moved to. As always, I take no responsibility if this trashes your mail server. Run at your own risk. It works fine for me, but my server is not the same as yours I'm sure. Also note the grep line is currently setup for the above noted virus. It should work with others if you can find a repeating pattern that is consistent in all emails containing the virus. It's not pretty, but it works. -- Stephen Comoletti Systems Administrator Delanet, Inc. http://www.delanet.com ph: (302) 326-5800 fax: (302) 326-5802
RE: Sendmail vs Qmail?
According to the new book "Programming Internet Email" by Wood at O'Reilly, qmail does not satisfy the needs of a large company with complex needs---only sendmail does. See bottom of page 17. Don't just tease us: what's his reasoning? Not gonna go out buy the book right now just to find out! -Matt -- Matt Brown UNIX Administrator tickets.com Phone: (714) 327-5571 --- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: alert:unable to opendir mess/0
Dec 17 16:10:16 host1 qmail: 945414616.234284 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 16:10:17 host1 qmail: 945414617.771422 alert: unable to opendir mess/0, sleeping... Sounds like either /var/qmail/queue/* doesn't exist or its ownership/permissions are wrong ... What's under there? -Matt -- Matt Brown UNIX Administrator tickets.com Phone: (714) 327-5571 --- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
"Peter C. Norton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Post.Office is simple, it runs under NT, any idiot can set it up, and it's user interface is better then the current web-configurators for qmail/sendmail/anything else I've seen. Those are the pluses. It's also crappy. Delivery is slow, can't grow well past about 200 users, can't handle large volumes of email, doesn't log nearly enough data to track a message. It's capable of losing messages in daily operations. Those are the minuses. In other words, beats me [why Post.Office is so popular]. It's no mystery: NT is popular, idiots abound, and everyone likes a pretty [inter]face. The fact that it's crappy is obviously secondary to these concerns. -Dave
Re: mail queue statistics
clifford thurber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read all the docs and tried to get this to work so please forgive the sophmoric nature of this question but I am new to qmail and this list has been quite helpful. What is the qmail command(under bin) to generate a report of all the mail that qmail has sent out in the last X hours of days. Is there a way to both get a numerical total as well as a list of remote recipient addresses that qmail has sent off mail to. Thanks again in advance. What you want is available in a separate package called qmailanalog. See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#qmailanalog -Dave
Re: (no subject)
"Stephan Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i really like qmail. Me too. I was wondering how to disable somethings. if i telnet localhost 25 and i type 'help' i get a response with a link to the qmail's homepage. i dont want that, for security reasons. mabee you guys can help me out? Modify the source code, qmail-smtpd.c, to be specific. There's really nothing to be gained by trying to hide the fact that you're running qmail because: (1) there are no known security holes in qmail, and (2) qmail is recognizable by its behavior. -Dave
Re: Problems sending to local virtual domains
Oscar Arranz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed qmail with tcpserver and vpopmail. When I send a message from a local address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to an external account, it works fine but when I send a message to other address in the same server it doesn't work and puts a message like this on /var/log/syslog delivery 13: deferral: Uh-oh:_.qmail_has_prog_delivery_but_has_x_bit_set._(#4.7.0) What's the meaning of this? From "man dot-mail": If .qmail has the execute bit set, it must not contain any program lines, mbox lines, or maildir lines. If qmail- local sees any such lines, it will stop and indicate a temporary failure. "Executable" .qmail files are supposed to contain nothing but "forward" lines. This is a security feature for mailing list files: if an attacker could somehow subscribe the address: |cat /bin/passwd | Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] The execute bit would prevent qmail-local from performing that delivery. -Dave
Qmail daemon messages
I was wondering if there is a place where I can change the default daemon messages. Things like "sorry it didn't work out" bounces, and things like that. Are these configurable? Or do I edit source code to change them? Thanks in advance! Dustin
Re: Qmail daemon messages
Dustin Miller writes: I was wondering if there is a place where I can change the default daemon messages. Things like "sorry it didn't work out" bounces, and things like that. Are these configurable? Or do I edit source code to change them? Source code. Plus, the "Hi, this is the" part is a documented standard, and cannot be changed without breaking everything that parses bounce messages. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: Qmail daemon messages
And why the hell would someone ever want to change them ? Many people expect them to have that form. Anyway, RFCs-1891,1892,1893,1894 explain what the messages 'SHOULD' contain, exactly. Russell Nelson wrote: Dustin Miller writes: I was wondering if there is a place where I can change the default daemon messages. Things like "sorry it didn't work out" bounces, and things like that. Are these configurable? Or do I edit source code to change them? Source code. Plus, the "Hi, this is the" part is a documented standard, and cannot be changed without breaking everything that parses bounce messages. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
RE: Qmail daemon messages
I'm really getting sick of replies like this. First of all, is there any reason for you to say "Why the hell [snip]", any reason at all for the vulgarity? Second of all, I don't want my server saying. "Sorry it didn't work out." People in general don't get those messages, and if there is anything I can do to reduce the tech support calls I receive saying "What does this message mean", I'm going to do it. Third, I do appreciate the RFC pointers, and I will check those out. If anyone else has some valuable information about what I can do to change those messages while still keeping true to the RFCs and any other standards, please let me know. The default messages aren't good enough for the average newbie internet e-mail user, in my humble opinion, and I wish to change them on my server. -Original Message- From: gesnet [mailto:gesnet]On Behalf Of Fabrice Scemama Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 4:43 PM To: Russell Nelson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Qmail daemon messages And why the hell would someone ever want to change them ? Many people expect them to have that form. Anyway, RFCs-1891,1892,1893,1894 explain what the messages 'SHOULD' contain, exactly. Russell Nelson wrote: Dustin Miller writes: I was wondering if there is a place where I can change the default daemon messages. Things like "sorry it didn't work out" bounces, and things like that. Are these configurable? Or do I edit source code to change them? Source code. Plus, the "Hi, this is the" part is a documented standard, and cannot be changed without breaking everything that parses bounce messages. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
RE: Qmail daemon messages
I'll need to look into the bounce parsing standard to ensure compatibility. The default messages can be confusing to newbie e-mail users, and changing them would reduce the tech support calls I receive here. -Original Message- From: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Qmail daemon messages Dustin Miller writes: I was wondering if there is a place where I can change the default daemon messages. Things like "sorry it didn't work out" bounces, and things like that. Are these configurable? Or do I edit source code to change them? Source code. Plus, the "Hi, this is the" part is a documented standard, and cannot be changed without breaking everything that parses bounce messages. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
RE: Qmail daemon messages
I'll need to look into the bounce parsing standard to ensure compatibility. The default messages can be confusing to newbie e-mail users, and changing them would reduce the tech support calls I receive here. If you're going to change them, may I suggest trying to change the source in such a way that the configurable parts of the messages are confined to a set of #defines, so that others may more easily plug them in without conflicting with the standard. (I say this without having glanced at the standard, so take this comment for what it is worth). opinion The problem you are having is not the default messages - it is newbie email users. I am consistently amazed how many people have trouble getting their own email address correct, much less analyzing bounce messages of ANY format. I have yet to find a good patch for this problem. /opinion -- gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail appending mail machines name to recipients
Hello, I made a post earlier to this list open a PERL program I have written which basic opens one file handle ot a CSV file containing usernames and email adresses parses them and then sends users mail by writing to a file handle opened to qmail. Here is the snippet of code that achieves this: $mailprog = "/usr/local/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"; open(MAIL, "|$mailprog"); print MAIL "To: $email\n"; print MAIL "From: $from\n"; print MAIL "Subject:$subject\n"; print MAIL "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"; print MAIL "Content-Type: text\/html\; charset\=us-ascii\; name=\"newsl.html\"\n"; print MAIL "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\n"; print MAIL "Content-Disposition: inline\; filename=\"newsl.html\"\n"; print MAIL "Content-Base: http:\/\/www\.liveuniverse\.com\n"; print MAIL " etc . close(MAIL); The problem is that every message is being bounced back b/c somewhere qmail is appending the name of our machine(snapper.raremedium.com) onto the recipients e-mail address. It then sees the name of our box and decideds this is a local delivery which is of course undeliverable as we are trying to send mail to a list of remote users. Can anyone help me with this. For instance below my script assigned the value $email ="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" which is correct. Now when qmail recieves it, it decides to append the name of our machine (snapper.raremedium.com) onto this address. Can someone please give me some insight into this. I think I am going crazy. Below is the output of the mail log. Anyway thanks in advance. Dec 16 14:39:23 ketel-1 qmail: 945373163.430257 starting delivery 20110: msg 721 291 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]@snapper.raremedium.com and then later on the logfile I will see the failure message with : Dec 16 14:43:21 ketel-1 qmail: 945373163.430257 delivery 20110: failure: Sorry,_ no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ Clifford Thurber Web Systems Administrator LiveUniverse.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 565 5th Ave. 29th Fl. New York, NY 10017 Ph:212 883 6940 (131) Fax:212 856 9134
Re: qmail appending mail machines name to recipients
* clifford thurber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [17 Dec 1999 17:08]: I made a post earlier to this list open a PERL program I have written which basic opens one file handle ot a CSV file containing usernames and email adresses parses them and then sends users mail by writing to a file handle opened to qmail. Here is the snippet of code that achieves this: $mailprog = "/usr/local/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"; etc... There are also several perl CPAN packages to do this stuff in a consistent and uniform manner. -- Quist ConsultingEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 219 Donlea DriveVoice: +1.416.696.7600 Toronto ON M4G 2N1 Fax: +1.416.978.6620 CANADA WWW: http://www.quist.on.ca
Re: qmail appending mail machines name to recipients
Hello Clifford, I must admit that your bounce looks very peculiar... Have you tried either of these instead? I have used qmail-inject in scripts like this before, and never had any difficulties open(MAIL, "|$mailprog -h "); open(MAIL, "|$mailprog -a $email"); Do you get the same bounce? If you continue to have troubles, show us your /var/qmail/control/* files...best of luck. -Martin -- Martin A. Brown --- Wonderfrog Enterprises --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, clifford thurber wrote: --Hello, --I made a post earlier to this list open a PERL program I have written which --basic opens one file handle ot a CSV file containing usernames and email --adresses parses them and then sends users mail by writing to a file handle --opened to qmail. Here is the snippet of code that achieves this: -- --$mailprog = "/usr/local/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"; -- --open(MAIL, "|$mailprog"); -- --print MAIL "To: $email\n"; --print MAIL "From: $from\n"; --print MAIL "Subject:$subject\n"; --print MAIL "MIME-Version: 1.0\n"; --print MAIL "Content-Type: text\/html\; charset\=us-ascii\; --name=\"newsl.html\"\n"; --print MAIL "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\n"; --print MAIL "Content-Disposition: inline\; filename=\"newsl.html\"\n"; --print MAIL "Content-Base: http:\/\/www\.liveuniverse\.com\n"; -- -- --print MAIL " etc . --close(MAIL); -- --The problem is that every message is being bounced back b/c somewhere qmail --is appending the name of our machine(snapper.raremedium.com) onto the --recipients e-mail address. It then sees the name of our box and decideds --this is a local delivery which is of course undeliverable as we are trying --to send mail to a list of remote users. Can anyone help me with this. For --instance below my script assigned the value $email ="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" --which is correct. Now when qmail recieves it, it decides to append the name --of our machine (snapper.raremedium.com) onto this address. Can someone --please give me some insight into this. I think I am going crazy. Below is --the output of the mail log. Anyway thanks in advance. -- -- --Dec 16 14:39:23 ketel-1 qmail: 945373163.430257 starting delivery 20110: --msg 721 --291 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]@snapper.raremedium.com -- --and then later on the logfile I will see the failure message with : -- -- Dec 16 14:43:21 ketel-1 qmail: 945373163.430257 delivery 20110: --failure: Sorry,_ --no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ -- --Clifford Thurber --Web Systems Administrator --LiveUniverse.com --[EMAIL PROTECTED] --565 5th Ave. 29th Fl. --New York, NY 10017 --Ph:212 883 6940 (131) --Fax:212 856 9134 --
Re: Qmail daemon messages
- Original Message - From: Greg Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 17 Dec 1999 14.12 Subject: RE: Qmail daemon messages opinion The problem you are having is not the default messages - it is newbie email users. I am consistently amazed how many people have trouble getting their own email address correct, much less analyzing bounce messages of ANY format. I have yet to find a good patch for this problem. /opinion I've found a solution of sorts. People have an obnoxious tendency to reply directly to qmail's bounce messages. I guess they think there's a little tiny human inside the computer shuffling messages around from mailbox to mailbox, and when he can't find a mailbox he types out a little message saying sorry. Then people reply saying "oh could you try this instead," as if this is directory assistance and whoops, they got the wrong city again, it's West Blunfingburg, not East Blunfingburg.. Anyway, I changed the default "from" address for bounces from "postmaster" to "qmail." I then set up "qmail@" to be an autoresponder that nicely tells the person that they need to actually bother reading the error message next time. postmaster mail still goes to me if someone has a legitimate "can you help me locate this address" query. If you'd like to see the actual autoresponder message, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Feel free to steal this idea for your own use. shag = Judd Bourgeois| CNM Network +1 (805) 520-7170 Software Architect| 1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Simi Valley, CA 93065 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
bouncesaying
Hello all. I would like to filter incoming messages, on a per-Mailbox basis, via a user's .qmail and various calls to bouncesaying in that .qmail. Each call to bouncsaying will run a program that checks for a particular condition, and perhaps bounce the message if such a check fails. This is obviously easy to accomplish. However, I would like to bounce the message _AND_ still deliver it -- to some trash mailbox perhaps -- so it can be looked at for whatever reason (more or less for statistics purposes). Is there a means by which this can be accomplished? At first glance this looks like it will not be easily accomplished without some code hacking. Thanks!
off-topic: include file des.h
Hi, I'm trying to work with a crypt system and the program is asking for include des.h. Can anyone send this file to me? Best regards, Ari
Cannot Telnet localhost 25
Hi, I am trying to telnet to my qmail server and test the configuration. I am able to get all the TEST.deliver functions working and things seems to be working. However, the connection closes when I telnet to myhost on port 25. I am running Qmail on Solaris 2.6. For example, bora-bora% telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. bora-bora% ---inetd.conf #Qmail 1.0.3 Configuration smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd Thanks for you help, Bora
Re: off-topic: include file des.h
From your address I can see that you aren't in the US or Canada, and despite the recent changes in encryption law, I don't think I could send this to you. But besides just that, you haven't specified what OS or version you're using. You'll also need the library that contains those crypt functions, not just the header file. This is also probably not legal to distribute, inside or outside the US. Finally, this message is pretty clearly off-topic unless you're trying to do something with crypt and qmail, and you haven't said what you're trying to do exactly. shag = Judd Bourgeois| CNM Network +1 (805) 520-7170 Software Architect| 1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Simi Valley, CA 93065 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. - Original Message - From: Ari Arantes Filho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 17 Dec 1999 14.17 Subject: off-topic: include file des.h Hi, I'm trying to work with a crypt system and the program is asking for include des.h. Can anyone send this file to me? Best regards, Ari
RE: Cannot Telnet localhost 25
Hi Luka, I am sure which log files, however this is one of the syslog and the /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd. I found a "fatal error saying unable to bind: address already used." Is this referring to port 25 and how do i find out what is using it? Sendmail is disabled. Can you help me make sense out of this? Thanks, BK bora-bora% ls authlog sysidconfig.log syslog.mail wtmp qmailsyslog syslog.old wtmpx bora-bora% tail syslog.mail Dec 17 13:25:44 bora-bora qmail: 945465944.055775 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 13:25:44 bora-bora qmail: 945465944.056964 triple bounce: discarding bou7 Dec 17 13:25:44 bora-bora qmail: 945465944.069200 end msg 176787 Dec 17 14:51:54 bora-bora qmail: 945471114.467997 new msg 176738 Dec 17 14:51:54 bora-bora qmail: 945471114.469221 info msg 176738: bytes 2314 f6 Dec 17 14:51:54 bora-bora qmail: 945471114.700426 starting delivery 15: msg 176m Dec 17 14:51:54 bora-bora qmail: 945471114.701532 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 14:51:54 bora-bora qmail: 945471114.760459 delivery 15: success: did_1+0/ Dec 17 14:51:54 bora-bora qmail: 945471114.788103 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Dec 17 14:51:54 bora-bora qmail: 945471114.789140 end msg 176738 bora-bora% pwd /var/log bora-bora% bora-bora% pwd /var/log/qmail/qmail-smtpd bora-bora% ls -l total 23970 -r--r--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 4996008 Dec 16 12:11 @0945304297 -r--r--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 877176 Dec 16 15:38 @0945375087 -r--r--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 4996008 Dec 17 11:21 @0945387678 -r--r--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 77 Dec 17 09:50 @0945453041 -rw-r--r-- 1 qmaill nofiles 1351800 Dec 17 16:40 @0945458468 bora-bora% tail @0945458468 945477643.583230 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477644.603390 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477645.623086 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477646.643272 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477647.663296 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477648.683194 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477649.703900 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477650.723231 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477651.743421 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used 945477652.763261 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already used bora-bora% bora-bora% ps -ef |grep qmail qmaill 190 1 0 Dec 16 ?1:18 cyclog -s500 -n5 /var/log/qmd root 191 190 1 Dec 16 ? 10:11 supervise /var/qmail/lock tcpserq qmaill 193 190 0 Dec 16 ?0:48 accustamp root 1469 191 0 16:41:58 ?0:00 supervise /var/qmail/lock tcpserq qmails 6313 1 0 09:50:40 pts/11 0:00 qmail-send qmaill 6317 6313 0 09:50:40 pts/11 0:00 splogger qmail qmailr 6319 6313 0 09:50:40 pts/11 0:00 qmail-rspawn qmailq 6320 6313 0 09:50:40 pts/11 0:00 qmail-clean root 6318 6313 0 09:50:40 pts/11 0:00 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox mkaing 1471 29191 0 16:41:58 pts/14 0:00 grep qmail bora-bora% -Original Message- From: Luka Gerzic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cannot Telnet localhost 25 look your logs and you will find error.. :) and solution... D r e n i k N e t w o r k s / Y u g o s l a v i a Luka Z. Gerzic Graphic design, prepress, html, networking home page: http://www.linux.drenik.net email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / GSM +381 64 11 0 29 56 - Original Message - From: Bora Kaing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 1:20 AM Subject: Cannot Telnet localhost 25 Hi, I am trying to telnet to my qmail server and test the configuration. I am able to get all the TEST.deliver functions working and things seems to be working. However, the connection closes when I telnet to myhost on port 25. I am running Qmail on Solaris 2.6. For example, bora-bora% telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. bora-bora% ---inetd.conf #Qmail 1.0.3 Configuration smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd Thanks for you help, Bora
Vitual domains?
I was just asked if qmail could do the fol, which I am sure it can, and I am sure this is a vitual domains thing, but I lack self esteem and need some reassurance ... ;-) I want to have email coming in to [EMAIL PROTECTED] redirected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... possible? -- ___ Mark Drummond|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|ICQ#19153754 Gang Warily|http://signals.rmc.ca/
Re: IP based authentication
"David C. Maple" wrote: Hi, I have just subscribed to the list and I have a problem. What is your exact configuration line for vpopmail and what is your startup line for qmail-pop3d ? * here's forward lookup 4:36pm zephrey /home/dmaple %nslookup acgva.net Server: zephrey.methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 # here's reverse 4:53pm zephrey /home/dmaple %nslookup 216.54.63.29 Server: zephrey.methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 Here are my results: [root@orbital kbo]# nslookup acgva.net Server: ns1.inter7.com Address: 209.218.8.2 Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 [root@orbital kbo]# nslookup 216.54.63.29 Server: ns1.inter7.com Address: 209.218.8.2 Name:aquik.net Address: 216.54.63.29 forward and reverse don't match from our dns server. Let's try it again from your server. [root@orbital kbo]# nslookup Default Server: ns1.inter7.com Address: 209.218.8.2 server zephrey.methos.net Default Server: methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Aliases: zephrey.methos.net 216.54.63.29 Server: methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Aliases: zephrey.methos.net Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 It looks good from your server. What are your entries in /etc/resolv.conf ? Ken Jones Inter7
Re: Vitual domains?
* Mark E. Drummond ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [17 Dec 1999 20:03]: I was just asked if qmail could do the fol, which I am sure it can, and I am sure this is a vitual domains thing, but I lack self esteem and need some reassurance ... ;-) Take a seat, or better still lie down on the couch over there. This can be done with virtual domains (I am sure there are other variants as well). I want to have email coming in to [EMAIL PROTECTED] redirected to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... possible? ( Read the FAQ and the sections dealing with virtual domains. This help is taken directly from Dan's text) To use the virtual domain approach here is a cookbook approach: 1. Add onedomain.com:rufus to /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains where "rufus" is an account (any old account) that will be handling mail directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2a. Add onedomain.com to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts. 2b. Make sure the MX record for onedomain.com is pointing to the machine that you are performing all these changes. 3. Set up all default mail for "rufus" to be passed to daotherdomain: % pwd % /home/rufus % cat .qmail-default # forward all mail destined for onedomain.com to daotherdomain.com $[EMAIL PROTECTED] % 4. Find the qmail-send process and give it a HUP signal to re-read the virtual domains file. Optional note: It is also possible to have the onedomain.com handled by the alias user by creating the following file: % cd ~alias % pwd % /var/qmail/alias % cat .qmail-rufus-default # forward all mail destined for onedomain.com to daotherdomain.com $[EMAIL PROTECTED] This technique does not require an actual user named "rufus" to be created. Finally, to make a long story short, this whole matter is possibly is better handled by the smtproutes mechanism: 1. Perform 2a and 2b from above. 2. Add the following to /var/qmail/control/smtproutes: onedomain.com:[a.b.c.d] Where a.b.c.d is the IP address of the machine that receives mail for the daotherdomain.com -- Quist ConsultingEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 219 Donlea DriveVoice: +1.416.696.7600 Toronto ON M4G 2N1 Fax: +1.416.978.6620 CANADA WWW: http://www.quist.on.ca
How to control message ?
Hi All ! My boss told me he wanna control outgoing and incoming mail. He want to allow or delete each mail. It seems terrible ,but ... How can I config my qmail ?? I tried to redirect all mail to someone by forward and tcp.smtp file. But It seems stupid if allowed mail will be sent. Any other solution ? Thanks !!
Re: How to control message ?
Jason Huang wrote: Hi All ! My boss told me he wanna control outgoing and incoming mail. He want to allow or delete each mail. It seems terrible ,but ... How can I config my qmail ?? I tried to redirect all mail to someone by forward and tcp.smtp file. But It seems stupid if allowed mail will be sent. Any other solution ? Thanks !! When your boss says he wants to allow or delete each mail, does this mean someone will review each mail and decide to allow it in or out? Ken Jones Inter7
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
On 17 Dec 1999, Petr Novotny wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Dec 99, at 7:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The inability to do header rewriting without making two trips through the queue causes a severe performance hit, if you are doing anything other than low volume. Rewriting headers of all messages is a severe performance hit. Or Only for sendmail. Qmail, and other mailers, can do it with very little expense. can you instruct sendmail not to? I couldn't find how. That is forwarding with only one trip through the queue. You mean reading "aliases" before delivering, and therefore deciding to forward immediately? Maybe with some tweaking, the current virtualdomains code might do that. Also aliasing as in mailing lists. One nice feature of sendmail is that it dedups addresses after expanding them. This is one reason Qmail will never be used in any enterprise-scale system. The large international 800 pound gorilla I currently consult for uses alias-based mailing lists rather extensively. Pretty much everyone gets subscribed to at least a dozen mailing lists as part of the company's welcome wagon. There's a mailing list for everyone on the same floor in the building, a mailing list for everyone on any floor in the same building, a mailing list for everyone in all the building in the same city, a mailing list for everyone who works on the same continent, and a mailing list of everyone in the firm. On top of that, there are multiple mailing lists that loosely mirror all the steps on the corporate ladder, and mailing lists for everyone in the same business unit or IT unit. Additionally, pretty much every IT project has its own mailing list. Every application that the firm has installed anywhere also has a mailing list for its users. There's even a mailing list for everyone who uses internal and external news servers (both use authentication, and the mailing list automatically consists of everyone who used the news server in the last 90 days). There are individual servers which also keep track of who logs on to them, and a mailing list is made out of that info too. This is done so that whenever the engineering group takes a server, application, or a particular network, down for maintenance, everyone who can potentially be affected by the down time is aware of it. Now, you can't run something like that with Qmail and ezmlm. Pretty much any kind of memo is sent out to at least three or four mailing lists. Since everything is kept as, basically, one huge mail alias file, sendmail dedups the recipient list after expanding it (and, yes, as long as you run a sendmail farm on a large enough ring of big honking UNIX boxes with more CPUs than most people have fingers on their hands, the performance is quite acceptable). This is an absolute requirement for any enterprise-scale environment. If everyone started to get three or four copies of the same memo, this would get old pretty quickly.
Re: How to control message ?
On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Jason Huang wrote: Hi All ! My boss told me he wanna control outgoing and incoming mail. He want to allow or delete each mail. It seems terrible ,but ... How can I config my qmail ?? You can't. I suggest that you start looking for a new job. Your boss is an idiot. I don't know about you, but I don't like to work for idiots.
Re: bouncesaying
--I would say, why leverage condredirect for this purpose? And I suppose I should also have included my negation operator. Why not leverage condredirect for this purpose? Sorry, -Martin
Re: How to control message ?
Jason Huang wrote: yes!! -ì©l¶l¥ó- ±H¥óªÌ: iv0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¦¬¥óªÌ: Jason Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think I agree with Mr Sam. Get a new job. If this is not the case, then you will have to pass all emails into a central account which keeps the header information, then a person can review each email. If they agree that the email is "approved" they can forward it along to the actuall receipeint. Is your company part of a security organization, or just a company on the internet? If you are a security organization, I could "possibly" see why this activity would be needed. If you are just working for a regular company, there are serious issues of privacy involved. But.. Basicly, they will have to send every email through a central queue, where a person can review the email for it's content and make a decision on the information. This is possible with qmail but will require alot of "jumping through hoops". What kind of organization do you work for? What kind of information is being transmitted through email? What kind of person is your boss? Ken Jones Inter7 Jason Huang wrote: Hi All ! My boss told me he wanna control outgoing and incoming mail. He want to allow or delete each mail. It seems terrible ,but ... How can I config my qmail ?? I tried to redirect all mail to someone by forward and tcp.smtp file. But It seems stupid if allowed mail will be sent. Any other solution ? Thanks !! When your boss says he wants to allow or delete each mail, does this mean someone will review each mail and decide to allow it in or out? Ken Jones Inter7
RE: IP based authentication
I am running FreeBSD 3.2 with the latest version of qmail and vpopmail. Qmail is installed in /var/qmail with vpopmail in /var/qmail/vpopmail. : in inetd.conf pop3stream tcp nowait root/var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup acgva.net /var/qmail/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir : in file /var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/acgva.net/vpasswd tester:G1DXYIw.oqfow:1:0:Pop User by CLI:/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/acgva.net/tester:5000 : in file /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains acgva.net:acgva.net : in file /var/qmail/users/assign +acgva.net-:acgva.net:999:999:/var/qmail/vpopmail/domains/acgva.net:-:: Please let me know if there is anything else you need to know. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: kbo [mailto:kbo]On Behalf Of iv0 Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 9:14 PM To: David C. Maple Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP based authentication "David C. Maple" wrote: Hi, I have just subscribed to the list and I have a problem. What is your exact configuration line for vpopmail and what is your startup line for qmail-pop3d ? * here's forward lookup 4:36pm zephrey /home/dmaple %nslookup acgva.net Server: zephrey.methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 # here's reverse 4:53pm zephrey /home/dmaple %nslookup 216.54.63.29 Server: zephrey.methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 Here are my results: [root@orbital kbo]# nslookup acgva.net Server: ns1.inter7.com Address: 209.218.8.2 Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 [root@orbital kbo]# nslookup 216.54.63.29 Server: ns1.inter7.com Address: 209.218.8.2 Name:aquik.net Address: 216.54.63.29 forward and reverse don't match from our dns server. Let's try it again from your server. [root@orbital kbo]# nslookup Default Server: ns1.inter7.com Address: 209.218.8.2 server zephrey.methos.net Default Server: methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Aliases: zephrey.methos.net 216.54.63.29 Server: methos.net Address: 216.54.63.12 Aliases: zephrey.methos.net Name:acgva.net Address: 216.54.63.29 It looks good from your server. What are your entries in /etc/resolv.conf ? Ken Jones Inter7
stat.pl
i have the convert.pl but it say it need stat.pl can anyone send it to me the stat.pl file thanks -- Yamin Prabudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] StarNET
Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
Sam writes: Now, you can't run something like that with Qmail and ezmlm. http://www.qmail.org/eliminiate-dups . Run qmail-start as follows: qmail-start '|eliminate-dups Mailbox ./Mailbox' -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
.qmail question
What commands can I put in a .qmail file so that email from a specific email address is dropped (/dev/null'd), but all other email is delivered fine?
Message Footer
I am looking for a way to put a standard footer on each message that gets delivered to any remote address so that messages at localhost dont get the header, but remote ones do... I need this to work for boith messages with and without attatchments, and especially to work with MS outlook and outlook express Can anyone suggest a solution for me... If local clients have to have the message as well, thats fine Thanks in advance Damien Croarken
