Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Jeffrey Gaede]

 Try everything. You might even try the laying flat compared to laying on your 
side, taking notes of just how difficult it feels to breathe in each position, 
and seeing if it has gotten worse. It's not good for me breathing on my back 
and even my pulse-ox is worse. I literally start taking notes with issues. That 
way I can look back and say this started at this time, then this happened, etc. 
Helps give perspective. Hang in there!

On Saturday, July 31, 2021, 12:12:45 PM PDT, Greg  wrote:  
 
  I have no idea, but I've seen 2 cardiologists and they both gave me the OK. 
EKGs, Ultrasounds, etc.
 It is a bit harder to breath when flat, but it always has been.
 I go back to the one who did the heart ablation in a week or so. It all 
started after that. But my heart checks out ok.
 I'm leaning towards diaphragm issues right now. The ablation goes up the leg 
by the diaphragm. And I read that getting intubated can mess up your diaphragm. 
Plus I feel its my inhale thats an issue. Long pauses, and harder than before. 
Just a light help inhale from the respirator helps a lot. 
 Hopefully the EMG and Sniff test will show something.
 Thx, Greg
 
 On 7/31/2021 9:51 AM, Eric Olson wrote:
  
  Hey Greg, 
  Been thinking about your breathing problems.  Is it harder to breathe when 
you lie flat?  Are you sure this isn't cardiac related?
   
  On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:27 PM Greg  wrote:
  
  
 I think I might be a little psychic. I wrote the below message about 2 hours 
ago on my tablet so I can use the voice typing easier. Then I forward it to my 
Facebook, then copy it to an email. But before I could send it, I got stuck 
AGAIN. This time I was out front and I hit my recline button, but when I let 
go, it kept reclining. Then none of the buttons work. I was able to yell and 
get help, but nothing they could do. I had to call the fire department so they 
could get me inside and into bed. There's no way my reclining chair would fit 
around the corners. But the fireman played around with the wires and it started 
working. Thank God. I'd hate to be stuck in bed for who knows how long. I'd 
have to get a prescription, send it to the repair place, get the appointment, 
have them look at it, order parts, then schedule another appointment to have it 
fixed. I hate dealing with insurance. Being that you need a wheelchair you 
should just be able to go straight up there without all that waiting. 
 
 This was my earlier message.
 
 I was sitting out front today, I decided to put the smell set of weight on my 
wrist. I had an iced coffee in one hand and I hit the recline button with the 
other. But when I tried to hit the recline button to sit back up my fingers got 
caught in the recline button cable. With a little extra weight on my hand I was 
not able to get to the button. I tried to use my other hand to hook on the 
armrest for leverage, but it slipped off and my hand went to my shoulder with 
the coffee cup upside down. Luckily I was able to knock the coffee cup off my 
hand and hook my arm rest for better Leverage and got to my recline button. 
Lucky it didn't take too long it's about a hundred degrees out and who knows 
how long I would have laid there.
 
 Got me thinking, I think I've been stuck like that or similar 3 times. Been 
stuck in gravel many times but not like that. Once I was on my way home and I 
tipped forward and couldn't sit back up. I laid with my head in my lap until a 
bicyclist came by and helped me to sit up. Another time would like today 
without the weights, but I was stuck I could reach the button, and yelled until 
finally a neighbor heard me. I think the worst one, was when I was going out 
the back door one wheel went over the threshold the the bump made me fall 
forward, and I was jammed in the doorway, it was about a hundred ten degrees 
out. I was there for so long and got overheated. At least I've learned to 
always wear my chest strap even when I'm home and families in the house. I just 
can't yell loud enough.
 
 Greg
  
  
 
   

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Greg]

I have no idea, but I've seen 2 cardiologists and they both gave me the 
OK. EKGs, Ultrasounds, etc.

It is a bit harder to breath when flat, but it always has been.
I go back to the one who did the heart ablation in a week or so. It all 
started after that. But my heart checks out ok.
I'm leaning towards diaphragm issues right now. The ablation goes up the 
leg by the diaphragm. And I read that getting intubated can mess up your 
diaphragm. Plus I feel its my inhale thats an issue. Long pauses, and 
harder than before. Just a light help inhale from the respirator helps a 
lot.

Hopefully the EMG and Sniff test will show something.
Thx, Greg

On 7/31/2021 9:51 AM, Eric Olson wrote:

Hey Greg,

Been thinking about your breathing problems.  Is it harder to breathe 
when you lie flat?  Are you sure this isn't cardiac related?


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:27 PM Greg > wrote:



I think I might be a little psychic. I wrote the below message
about 2 hours ago on my tablet so I can use the voice typing
easier. Then I forward it to my Facebook, then copy it to an
email. But before I could send it, I got stuck AGAIN. This time I
was out front and I hit my recline button, but when I let go, it
kept reclining. Then none of the buttons work. I was able to yell
and get help, but nothing they could do. I had to call the fire
department so they could get me inside and into bed. There's no
way my reclining chair would fit around the corners. But the
fireman played around with the wires and it started working. Thank
God. I'd hate to be stuck in bed for who knows how long. I'd have
to get a prescription, send it to the repair place, get the
appointment, have them look at it, order parts, then schedule
another appointment to have it fixed. I hate dealing with
insurance. Being that you need a wheelchair you should just be
able to go straight up there without all that waiting.

This was my earlier message.

I was sitting out front today, I decided to put the smell set of
weight on my wrist. I had an iced coffee in one hand and I hit the
recline button with the other. But when I tried to hit the recline
button to sit back up my fingers got caught in the recline button
cable. With a little extra weight on my hand I was not able to get
to the button. I tried to use my other hand to hook on the armrest
for leverage, but it slipped off and my hand went to my shoulder
with the coffee cup upside down. Luckily I was able to knock the
coffee cup off my hand and hook my arm rest for better Leverage
and got to my recline button. Lucky it didn't take too long it's
about a hundred degrees out and who knows how long I would have
laid there.

Got me thinking, I think I've been stuck like that or similar 3
times. Been stuck in gravel many times but not like that. Once I
was on my way home and I tipped forward and couldn't sit back up.
I laid with my head in my lap until a bicyclist came by and helped
me to sit up. Another time would like today without the weights,
but I was stuck I could reach the button, and yelled until finally
a neighbor heard me. I think the worst one, was when I was going
out the back door one wheel went over the threshold the the bump
made me fall forward, and I was jammed in the doorway, it was
about a hundred ten degrees out. I was there for so long and got
overheated. At least I've learned to always wear my chest strap
even when I'm home and families in the house. I just can't yell
loud enough.

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Eric Olson]

Hey Greg,

Been thinking about your breathing problems.  Is it harder to breathe when
you lie flat?  Are you sure this isn't cardiac related?

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:27 PM Greg  wrote:

>
> I think I might be a little psychic. I wrote the below message about 2
> hours ago on my tablet so I can use the voice typing easier. Then I forward
> it to my Facebook, then copy it to an email. But before I could send it, I
> got stuck AGAIN. This time I was out front and I hit my recline button, but
> when I let go, it kept reclining. Then none of the buttons work. I was able
> to yell and get help, but nothing they could do. I had to call the fire
> department so they could get me inside and into bed. There's no way my
> reclining chair would fit around the corners. But the fireman played around
> with the wires and it started working. Thank God. I'd hate to be stuck in
> bed for who knows how long. I'd have to get a prescription, send it to the
> repair place, get the appointment, have them look at it, order parts, then
> schedule another appointment to have it fixed. I hate dealing with
> insurance. Being that you need a wheelchair you should just be able to go
> straight up there without all that waiting.
>
> This was my earlier message.
>
> I was sitting out front today, I decided to put the smell set of weight on
> my wrist. I had an iced coffee in one hand and I hit the recline button
> with the other. But when I tried to hit the recline button to sit back up
> my fingers got caught in the recline button cable. With a little extra
> weight on my hand I was not able to get to the button. I tried to use my
> other hand to hook on the armrest for leverage, but it slipped off and my
> hand went to my shoulder with the coffee cup upside down. Luckily I was
> able to knock the coffee cup off my hand and hook my arm rest for better
> Leverage and got to my recline button. Lucky it didn't take too long it's
> about a hundred degrees out and who knows how long I would have laid there.
>
> Got me thinking, I think I've been stuck like that or similar 3 times.
> Been stuck in gravel many times but not like that. Once I was on my way
> home and I tipped forward and couldn't sit back up. I laid with my head in
> my lap until a bicyclist came by and helped me to sit up. Another time
> would like today without the weights, but I was stuck I could reach the
> button, and yelled until finally a neighbor heard me. I think the worst
> one, was when I was going out the back door one wheel went over the
> threshold the the bump made me fall forward, and I was jammed in the
> doorway, it was about a hundred ten degrees out. I was there for so long
> and got overheated. At least I've learned to always wear my chest strap
> even when I'm home and families in the house. I just can't yell loud enough.
>
> Greg
>

[QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Greg]

I think I might be a little psychic. I wrote the below message about 2 
hours ago on my tablet so I can use the voice typing easier. Then I 
forward it to my Facebook, then copy it to an email. But before I could 
send it, I got stuck AGAIN. This time I was out front and I hit my 
recline button, but when I let go, it kept reclining. Then none of the 
buttons work. I was able to yell and get help, but nothing they could 
do. I had to call the fire department so they could get me inside and 
into bed. There's no way my reclining chair would fit around the 
corners. But the fireman played around with the wires and it started 
working. Thank God. I'd hate to be stuck in bed for who knows how long. 
I'd have to get a prescription, send it to the repair place, get the 
appointment, have them look at it, order parts, then schedule another 
appointment to have it fixed. I hate dealing with insurance. Being that 
you need a wheelchair you should just be able to go straight up there 
without all that waiting.


This was my earlier message.

I was sitting out front today, I decided to put the smell set of weight 
on my wrist. I had an iced coffee in one hand and I hit the recline 
button with the other. But when I tried to hit the recline button to sit 
back up my fingers got caught in the recline button cable. With a little 
extra weight on my hand I was not able to get to the button. I tried to 
use my other hand to hook on the armrest for leverage, but it slipped 
off and my hand went to my shoulder with the coffee cup upside down. 
Luckily I was able to knock the coffee cup off my hand and hook my arm 
rest for better Leverage and got to my recline button. Lucky it didn't 
take too long it's about a hundred degrees out and who knows how long I 
would have laid there.


Got me thinking, I think I've been stuck like that or similar 3 times. 
Been stuck in gravel many times but not like that. Once I was on my way 
home and I tipped forward and couldn't sit back up. I laid with my head 
in my lap until a bicyclist came by and helped me to sit up. Another 
time would like today without the weights, but I was stuck I could reach 
the button, and yelled until finally a neighbor heard me. I think the 
worst one, was when I was going out the back door one wheel went over 
the threshold the the bump made me fall forward, and I was jammed in the 
doorway, it was about a hundred ten degrees out. I was there for so long 
and got overheated. At least I've learned to always wear my chest strap 
even when I'm home and families in the house. I just can't yell loud enough.


Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck

[Greg]

Thx, yeah I just need to wear my chest strap. I just don't like it on. I 
do use it when going out on my own though.

Greg



On 10/18/2020 9:44 AM, Eric Olson wrote:

Have you figured out how to keep from falling forward?

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 8:38 PM Shelly Kerchner 
mailto:shelly.kerch...@yahoo.com>> wrote:


Thank goodness you are ok!  This happens every now and then to me,
its scary, frustrating I know. So very glad you are safe & out of
danger Greg!

Shelly

On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 08:49:15 PM EDT, Greg
mailto:g...@eskimo.com>> wrote:


I feel asleep outside while I was reclined, my arms were spread
out, hanging. Woke up and my arms were sore and so dead I couldn't
reach my recline button. About 100 degrees outside. Luckily it
only took about 10 minutes before my arms woke up enough to get to
the button.

There's been 3 or 4 times I've feel forward and couldn't sit
backup. The worse was like 110 degrees, I was just out my front
door. I was yelling for help, but no one inside could hear me. It
felt like forever.
Bending forward I can't breath very good or yell loud. Luckily my
neighbor heard me after forever. I was so over heated. I was
getting really panicked.

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck

[Eric Olson]

Have you figured out how to keep from falling forward?

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 8:38 PM Shelly Kerchner 
wrote:

> Thank goodness you are ok!  This happens every now and then to me, its
> scary, frustrating I know. So very glad you are safe & out of danger Greg!
>
> Shelly
>
> On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 08:49:15 PM EDT, Greg 
> wrote:
>
>
> I feel asleep outside while I was reclined, my arms were spread out,
> hanging. Woke up and my arms were sore and so dead I couldn't reach my
> recline button. About 100 degrees outside. Luckily it only took about 10
> minutes before my arms woke up enough to get to the button.
>
> There's been 3 or 4 times I've feel forward and couldn't sit backup. The
> worse was like 110 degrees, I was just out my front door. I was yelling for
> help, but no one inside could hear me. It felt like forever.
> Bending forward I can't breath very good or yell loud. Luckily my neighbor
> heard me after forever. I was so over heated. I was getting really panicked.
>
> Greg
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck

[Shelly Kerchner]

 Thank goodness you are ok!  This happens every now and then to me, its scary, 
frustrating I know. So very glad you are safe & out of danger Greg!
Shelly
On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 08:49:15 PM EDT, Greg  
wrote:  
 
   I feel asleep outside while I was reclined, my arms were spread out, 
hanging. Woke up and my arms were sore and so dead I couldn't reach my recline 
button. About 100 degrees outside. Luckily it only took about 10 minutes before 
my arms woke up enough to get to the button.
 
 There's been 3 or 4 times I've feel forward and couldn't sit backup. The worse 
was like 110 degrees, I was just out my front door. I was yelling for help, but 
no one inside could hear me. It felt like forever.
 Bending forward I can't breath very good or yell loud. Luckily my neighbor 
heard me after forever. I was so over heated. I was getting really panicked.
 
 Greg 

[QUAD-L] Stuck

[Greg]

I feel asleep outside while I was reclined, my arms were spread out, 
hanging. Woke up and my arms were sore and so dead I couldn't reach my 
recline button. About 100 degrees outside. Luckily it only took about 10 
minutes before my arms woke up enough to get to the button.


There's been 3 or 4 times I've feel forward and couldn't sit backup. The 
worse was like 110 degrees, I was just out my front door. I was yelling 
for help, but no one inside could hear me. It felt like forever.
Bending forward I can't breath very good or yell loud. Luckily my 
neighbor heard me after forever. I was so over heated. I was getting 
really panicked.


Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Greg]

The Link shows a few on my Facebook. The best one is the 6th down.
https://www.facebook.com/greg.wickenburg

Anyone can friend me if you would like to see my photos as I post them.
I do Wildlife as best I can in town.
Plus double exposures done all just in-camera.

Greg


On 1/5/2018 7:27 PM, Amy Elizabeth Baldwin wrote:

It would be nice if you could share the picture with us??

•  • LittleQuad •  •

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 



On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Greg
 wrote:

I got stuck in a new way yesterday. I often go out and do
photography. A guy around the corner has lots of cactuses with
birds living in them. He has a big gate in front. He lets me hang
out and take photos. I was taking some photos and the gate started
closing. I didn’t get out in time. I was locked in. I can’t get to
their door. But was able to knock on the side of the house. Took
about 15 minutes to get their attention. But I got a great photo
of a Thrasher on a Cactus. Check in out.

https://www.facebook.com/greg.wickenburg

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Amy Elizabeth Baldwin]

It would be nice if you could share the picture with us??
•  • LittleQuad •  •

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Greg wrote: 
I got stuck in a new way yesterday. I often go out and do photography. A guy 
around the corner has lots of cactuses with birds living in them. He has a big 
gate in front. He lets me hang out and take photos. I was taking some photos 
and the gate started closing. I didn’t get out in time. I was locked in. I 
can’t get to their door. But was able to knock on the side of the house. Took 
about 15 minutes to get their attention. But I got a great photo of a Thrasher 
on a Cactus. Check in out.
 
https://www.facebook.com/greg.wickenburg
 
Greg
 
   

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[wheelchair]

Plan.A Head.
Best Wishes
 
In a message dated 1/3/2018 9:36:03 AM Central Standard Time, g...@eskimo.com 
writes:

 
I got stuck in a new way yesterday. I often go out and do photography. A guy 
around the corner has lots of cactuses with birds living in them. He has a big 
gate in front. He lets me hang out and take photos. I was taking some photos 
and the gate started closing. I didn’t get out in time. I was locked in. I 
can’t get to their door. But was able to knock on the side of the house. Took 
about 15 minutes to get their attention. But I got a great photo of a Thrasher 
on a Cactus. Check in out.
https://www.facebook.com/greg.wickenburg
Greg

[QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Greg]

I got stuck in a new way yesterday. I often go out and do photography. A 
guy around the corner has lots of cactuses with birds living in them. He 
has a big gate in front. He lets me hang out and take photos. I was 
taking some photos and the gate started closing. I didn’t get out in 
time. I was locked in. I can’t get to their door. But was able to knock 
on the side of the house. Took about 15 minutes to get their attention. 
But I got a great photo of a Thrasher on a Cactus. Check in out.


https://www.facebook.com/greg.wickenburg

Greg

RE: [QUAD-L] Stuck In Sun

[Nichole Rohling]

Oh no!! Glad the neighbor heard you!

 

From: Greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 2:01 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Stuck In Sun

 

I finely got a rental chair while waiting for my new one. I just found out 
about 1 option on this chair that is very stupid. I was out and about and when 
I got home, I reclined in the sun in my entryway to relax. Sun shines in there 
and heats it like a hot box. Great when it cools off. But it’s in the mid 70s 
today. I nodded off, woke-up overheated. I didn’t know the chair turns itself 
off after awhile. My recline button stopped working. I could not sit back up. I 
was stuck, reclined, in a hotbox. The recline buttons should always work. No 
idea how long I was there. I was inches from reaching the door. Couldn’t reach 
my phone. Finely a neighbor heard me.

Greg

[QUAD-L] Stuck In Sun

[Greg]

I finely got a rental chair while waiting for my new one. I just found 
out about 1 option on this chair that is very stupid. I was out and 
about and when I got home, I reclined in the sun in my entryway to 
relax. Sun shines in there and heats it like a hot box. Great when it 
cools off. But it’s in the mid 70s today. I nodded off, woke-up 
overheated. I didn’t know the chair turns itself off after awhile. My 
recline button stopped working. I could not sit back up. I was stuck, 
reclined, in a hotbox. The recline buttons should always work. No idea 
how long I was there. I was inches from reaching the door. Couldn’t 
reach my phone. Finely a neighbor heard me.


Greg

[QUAD-L] Stuck

[greg]

Took the dog on a walk. I was plugged in before I left.
I got 3 blocks away, then I had to call home, chair battery died.
At least I got the paperwork done on a new chair yesterday.
So now its sent to insurence. Hopefully no more than 2 months more.
I might be able to get a loner until then. We tried everything, wires, batteries, joystick.
Only thing left is the computer module. But insurence wont cover that, then buy a new chair.
Tried Ebay, they had a bunch, but not the correct kind.
 
Greg

[QUAD-L] Stuck, Help

[greg]

I find it interesting what makes people ask if you need help. I've been out a lot lately taking photographs.  I often stop at this 1 corner on just an average city street. It has lots of plants butterflies love. So I just sit there looking into a camera with 1 hand resting on it to move it around. I bet at least every 10 minutes a car will stop and ask if I need help. Yet today I was at a golf course and pulled into the gravel edge to get a photo of a red bird I'd never seen here. I did something you never do in gravel, tried to back up and turn. Just dug in and was Stuck… I was facing the wrong way to see most cars, but could see them just as they passed me. I started waving both arms as well as I could, most just drove by, a few waved back. Lots of cars, but walking people were to far away to hear me. Probably 15 minutes, but finely a worker pulled up. We had talked earlier about my camera, he suggested where he often sees birds. Luckily he pulled over to ask if I found anything. I was too stuck for just him to get me out, but the next car also stopped to help.
 
Greg

[QUAD-L] Stuck as frig on the school entrance hump

[RONALD L PRACHT]

I was out on my attachable handcycle today called the rio dragonfly. I got hung 
up on the entrance ramp to the back of the school with the single front tire up 
the bump and my wheelchair wheels down the bump on the street. I had my c5 
grips on and tried and tried to go up to no avail, then tried to go down and 
was getting hung up on the footrest and the coaster brake kept activating. At 
this point Im about to break spokes and damage my handcycle so I did something 
smartI stopped and evaluated the situation. I then took the c5 grips 
off , took glasses off and tried to push using the handrims of the chair, but 
it was too steep without a run at it. I always carry water, cathe materials, 
cell, pocket knife so I wasn't to concerned. There were a few people that saw 
me struggling and walked away to not get involved...this is typical in my 
experience, some jut don't know how to help or want to be involved. Finally a 
guy pulls in gets out of his car
 and says, I see you all the time, don't you know how to drive that thing? I 
just smiled and said could ya go to the back of the chair and gimme a push. he 
pushed and I propelled the whole contraption up the steep curb. I thanked the 
man repeatedly and was grateful he stepped up to the plate and helped. The 
question I ask is would a pitbull stuck in the fence get help quicker than I 
did?  The other thing I would tell new chair users is eventually you will get 
in a sticky situation, rather than break things, tear out shoulders or get 
someone else hurt, always stop and figure out the best plan of attack and carry 
the necessities with you on your chair or in your van . We disabled folk have 
to be aware and a little smarter than normal joes out there.

Ive had two seatbelts become jammed while I was out and had to cut them to use 
restroom and get into van seat. Carry a multitool or a small pocketknife.


Ron

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck as frig on the school entrance hump

[RONALD L PRACHT]

Well concerning the easiest seatbelt to operate alone I guess depends on the 
individual. I tried the airline style and hated the weight and bulkiness but 
they aren't to hard to open for some. I have decent thumb extension on my good 
hand so I like the auto style, but like I said after a year or two they get 
jammed. Velcro is so so getting off but at least it cant get stuck on ya. 

When my belt was stuck I was going to ask one of those big truck dudes if they 
would cut the belt but I didn't, lol.

Ron 
 


 From: KK Batte kkba...@outlook.com
To: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Stuck as frig on the school entrance hump
  


 
Have I got a question for you!

SEAT BELT - They have been the bane to my existence.  I am not able to push the 
button to open it.  I have velcro on the chest strap  can handle those fine.

What type of closure is the easiest to get in  out of alone?

KK




Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 02:47:33 -0700
From: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Stuck as frig on the school entrance hump


I was out on my attachable handcycle today called the rio dragonfly. I got hung 
up on the entrance ramp to the back of the school with the single front tire up 
the bump and my wheelchair wheels down the bump on the street. I had my c5 
grips on and tried and tried to go up to no avail, then tried to go down and 
was getting hung up on the footrest and the coaster brake kept activating. At 
this point Im about to break spokes and damage my handcycle so I did something 
smartI stopped and evaluated the situation. I then took the c5 grips 
off , took glasses off and tried to push using the handrims of the chair, but 
it was too steep without a run at it. I always carry water, cathe materials, 
cell, pocket knife so I wasn't to concerned. There were a few people that saw 
me struggling and walked away to not get involved...this is typical in my 
experience, some jut don't know how to help or want to be involved. Finally a 
guy pulls in gets out of his car
 and says, I see you all the time, don't you know how to drive that thing? I 
just smiled and said could ya go to the back of the chair and gimme a push. he 
pushed and I propelled the whole contraption up the steep curb. I thanked the 
man repeatedly and was grateful he stepped up to the plate and helped. The 
question I ask is would a pitbull stuck in the fence get help quicker than I 
did?  The other thing I would tell new chair users is eventually you will get 
in a sticky situation, rather than break things, tear out shoulders or get 
someone else hurt, always stop and figure out the best plan of attack and carry 
the necessities with you on your chair or in your van . We disabled folk have 
to be aware and a little smarter than normal joes out there.

Ive had two seatbelts become jammed while I was out and had to cut them to use 
restroom and get into van seat. Carry a multitool or a small pocketknife.


Ron  

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck as frig on the school entrance hump

[Gmail]

You are so right Ron. Be the boy Scout. You're also right in the fact that 
a cat stuck up a tree or dog stuck in offense whole would get a crowd around 
them, the police department, the fire department and Humane Society. Do people 
think they will catch what they think we have?   Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Apr 21, 2014, at 5:47 AM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 I was out on my attachable handcycle today called the rio dragonfly. I got 
 hung up on the entrance ramp to the back of the school with the single front 
 tire up the bump and my wheelchair wheels down the bump on the street. I had 
 my c5 grips on and tried and tried to go up to no avail, then tried to go 
 down and was getting hung up on the footrest and the coaster brake kept 
 activating. At this point Im about to break spokes and damage my handcycle so 
 I did something smartI stopped and evaluated the situation. I then 
 took the c5 grips off , took glasses off and tried to push using the handrims 
 of the chair, but it was too steep without a run at it. I always carry water, 
 cathe materials, cell, pocket knife so I wasn't to concerned. There were a 
 few people that saw me struggling and walked away to not get 
 involved...this is typical in my experience, some jut don't know how to 
 help or want to be involved. Finally a guy pulls in gets out of his car and 
 says, I see you all the time, don't you know how to drive that thing? I just 
 smiled and said could ya go to the back of the chair and gimme a push. he 
 pushed and I propelled the whole contraption up the steep curb. I thanked the 
 man repeatedly and was grateful he stepped up to the plate and helped. The 
 question I ask is would a pitbull stuck in the fence get help quicker than I 
 did?  The other thing I would tell new chair users is eventually you will get 
 in a sticky situation, rather than break things, tear out shoulders or get 
 someone else hurt, always stop and figure out the best plan of attack and 
 carry the necessities with you on your chair or in your van . We disabled 
 folk have to be aware and a little smarter than normal joes out there.
 
 Ive had two seatbelts become jammed while I was out and had to cut them to 
 use restroom and get into van seat. Carry a multitool or a small pocketknife.
 
 
 Ron

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and other quad stuff

[jume9999]

I feel bad for all of you guys having all those complicated hospital stays. It 
is such a drag all the continuous health conditions that we Quads have to deal 
with. I myself have been pretty lucky so far, oh yeah I am dealing with 2 
pressure sores that I don't have the patience to even be worried about. However 
lately I know that there is something really wrong with my digestive system, 
not the usual BS. I fear it is bad because I have experienced severe A.D. 
lately and I am worried. On the other hand I just cannot worry about one more 
thing. I'm getting too old for this and i don't care to do procedures and such 
to find bad news that I won't follow up on. 

Do you all feel the same or different? 

Meredith 
- Original Message -

From: daa...@aol.com 
To: r pracht r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:57:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month 

Hi all, 

Sorry to hear about your hospital experiences Ron. That was really rough to 
come home in be by yourself right after surgery. I certainly hope that you are 
shearing from dancing heal quickly.. 
I had a similar situation and I always wonder why our needs are still so 
misunderstood in-hospitals. It is always a nightmare to have surgery, IV's for 
a UTI, pneumonia, bowel blockages, wounds needing a wound VAC for two months 
and then skin graft. One UTI caused a coma twice, intubation after several 
surgeries. So many nurses have never suctioned.. They still don't understand 
digitals and the bowel routine. I do believe I have had a member of near-death 
experiences through hospitalizations. What are your opinions? I have never 
heard of lorazepam. I'll have to look it up.. 
Dana 
In a message dated 10/29/2013 9:12:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: 



I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011. I had a 14 
inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound vac. My bowells 
shut down completely and I couldn't eat or drink for close to three weeks. Did 
have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and would throw up if i 
cheated. Every other day my father would come in and between the two of us 
straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair. It was scary with no 
results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be done and the nurses 
werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe independently, but was hooked 
up to a foley and that got plugged up and i went dysreflexic bad, and they 
still didn't believe it was clogged til I went crazy. The same hospital that 
taught me how to live as a quad and about dysrelexia, suddenly didn't know what 
i was referring to. I told the infectious disease doc to please look it up and 
at least prescribe something to lower my blood pressure during these times. It 
was crazy to be in bed and deal with so much, lorezapam helped me from going 
crazy at night. I just kept hoping I could get out of there without any 
secondary complications, but I got c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I had 
the plague..wearing gowns and masks. My family refused to wear them 
because it was pointless because they were so involved with my care.my 
gf at the time and father did about everything to keep the nurses happy. 
Somehow i made it out of there and could very slowly and dangerously get in bed 
and cathe myself. Dad went back to second shift the day I went home and i had 
to survive from 2 to midnight alone. I wasn't sure how fast or if I would fully 
recover. I wouldn't say Im as good as b4 all that happenned , but Im good 
enough to make it . Gf broke up with me, swim organization changed things so i 
couldn't go back, counselor quit...and I fell pretty hard emotionally. Im 
still here though and with that there is hope. 
Ron 


From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
To: greg g...@eskimo.com 
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month 

Greg, 
I was in Nov. 2013- May 2013 and AGAIN now 5 weeks without getting up AT 
ALL 
What do you do to keep your mind busy? 
I read, write, watch TV and on my life saver the ipad. Bobbie 

Smile Everyday 

On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:42 PM, greg  g...@eskimo.com  wrote: 


blockquote

Yes, since July. 
But I do get up for a couple of hours a few days a week. 
Pressure sore on my butt 
I just don't think I can do the surgery. Having to go 4-6 weeks with no getting 
up at all. 
I need a bit of sun a few days a week. I went a whole week once and it did not 
heal any faster that week. 
Greg 
 Hi All, 
 Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a 
 month or more? Just wondering. Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday 






/blockquote

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and other quad stuff

[Gmail]

I feel EXACTLY the same way. Some Doctor's say they understand but others don't 
. . . I really don't give a shit if they disagree, it' my freaking BODY!   
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Mar 15, 2014, at 12:45 PM, jume9...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I feel bad for all of you guys having all those complicated hospital stays.  
 It is such a drag all the continuous health conditions that we Quads have to 
 deal with.  I myself have been pretty lucky so far, oh yeah I am dealing with 
 2 pressure sores that I don't have the patience to even be worried about. 
 However lately I know that there is something really wrong with my digestive 
 system, not the usual BS. I fear it is bad because I have experienced severe 
 A.D. lately and I am worried. On the other hand I just cannot worry about one 
 more thing. I'm getting too old for this and i don't care to do procedures 
 and  such to find bad news that I won't follow up on. 
 
 Do you all feel the same or different?
 
 Meredith
 From: daa...@aol.com
 To: r pracht r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:57:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month
 
 Hi all,
 
 Sorry to hear about your hospital experiences Ron. That was really rough to 
 come home in be by yourself right after surgery. I certainly hope that you 
 are shearing from dancing heal quickly..
 I had a similar situation and I always wonder why our needs are still so 
 misunderstood in-hospitals. It is always a nightmare to have surgery, IV's 
 for a UTI, pneumonia, bowel blockages, wounds needing a wound VAC for two 
 months and then skin graft. One UTI caused a coma twice, intubation after 
 several surgeries. So many nurses have never suctioned.. They still don't 
 understand digitals and the bowel routine. I do believe I have had a member 
 of near-death experiences through hospitalizations. What are your opinions? I 
 have never heard of lorazepam. I'll have to look it up..
 Dana
  
 In a message dated 10/29/2013 9:12:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
 r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:
 I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011. I had a 14 
 inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound vac. My 
 bowells shut down completely and I couldn't eat or drink for close to three 
 weeks. Did have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and would 
 throw up if i cheated. Every other day my father would come in and between 
 the two of us straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair. It was 
 scary with no results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be done 
 and the nurses werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe 
 independently, but was hooked up to a foley and that got plugged up and i 
 went dysreflexic bad, and they still didn't believe it was clogged til I went 
 crazy.  The same hospital that taught me how to live as a quad and about 
 dysrelexia, suddenly didn't know what i was referring to. I told the 
 infectious disease doc to please look it up and at least prescribe something 
 to lower my blood pressure during these times. It was crazy to be in bed and 
 deal with so much, lorezapam helped me from going crazy at night. I just kept 
 hoping I could  get out of there without any secondary complications, but I 
 got c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I had the plague..wearing 
 gowns and masks. My family refused to wear them because it was pointless 
 because they were so involved with my care.my gf at the time and 
 father did about everything to keep the nurses happy. Somehow i made it out 
 of there and could very slowly and dangerously get in bed and cathe myself. 
 Dad went back to second shift the day I went home and i had to survive from 2 
 to midnight alone. I wasn't sure how fast or if I would fully recover. I 
 wouldn't say Im as good as b4 all that happenned , but Im good enough to make 
 it . Gf broke up with me, swim organization changed things so i couldn't go 
 back, counselor quit...and I fell pretty hard emotionally. Im still here 
 though and with that there is hope.
  
 Ron
 
 
 From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 To: greg g...@eskimo.com 
 Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month
 
 Greg,
   I was in Nov. 2013- May 2013 and AGAIN now 5 weeks without getting up 
 AT ALL
 What do you do to keep your mind busy?
 I read, write, watch TV and on my life saver the ipad.   Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:42 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 Yes, since July.
 But I do get up for a couple of hours a few days a week.
 Pressure sore on my butt
 I just don't think I can do the surgery. Having to go 4-6 weeks with no 
 getting up at all.
 I need a bit of sun a few days a week. I went a whole week once and it did 
 not heal any faster that week.
 Greg
  
  Hi All,
  Is there anybody else right now who has been

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and other quad stuff

[Larry Willis]

Meredith, look at the last posts by myself and Bobbie. That is exactly how
we feel. We are both over 40 yrs post and have reach the enough is enough
point. Unless I am suffering with pain -- whatever will be, will be.


-- Forwarded message --
From:  jume9...@comcast.net
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2014
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and
other quad stuff
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com


I feel bad for all of you guys having all those complicated hospital
stays.  It is such a drag all the continuous health conditions that we
Quads have to deal with.  I myself have been pretty lucky so far, oh yeah I
am dealing with 2 pressure sores that I don't have the patience to even be
worried about. However lately I know that there is something really wrong
with my digestive system, not the usual BS. I fear it is bad because I have
experienced severe A.D. lately and I am worried. On the other hand I just
cannot worry about one more thing. I'm getting too old for this and i don't
care to do procedures and  such to find bad news that I won't follow up on.

Do you all feel the same or different?

Meredith
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*To: *r pracht
r.pra...@sbcglobal.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r.pra...@sbcglobal.net');,
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*Sent: *Friday, March 14, 2014 10:57:47 AM
*Subject: *Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

Hi all,

Sorry to hear about your hospital experiences Ron. That was really rough to
come home in be by yourself right after surgery. I certainly hope that you
are shearing from dancing heal quickly..
I had a similar situation and I always wonder why our needs are still so
misunderstood in-hospitals. It is always a nightmare to have surgery, IV's
for a UTI, pneumonia, bowel blockages, wounds needing a wound VAC for two
months and then skin graft. One UTI caused a coma twice, intubation after
several surgeries. So many nurses have never suctioned.. They still don't
understand digitals and the bowel routine. I do believe I have had a member
of near-death experiences through hospitalizations. What are your opinions?
I have never heard of lorazepam. I'll have to look it up..
Dana

In a message dated 10/29/2013 9:12:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
r.pra...@sbcglobal.netjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','r.pra...@sbcglobal.net');writes:

I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011. I had a
14 inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound vac. My
bowells shut down completely and I couldn't eat or drink for close to three
weeks. Did have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and would
throw up if i cheated. Every other day my father would come in and between
the two of us straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair. It
was scary with no results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be
done and the nurses werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe
independently, but was hooked up to a foley and that got plugged up and i
went dysreflexic bad, and they still didn't believe it was clogged til I
went crazy.  The same hospital that taught me how to live as a quad and
about dysrelexia, suddenly didn't know what i was referring to. I told the
infectious disease doc to please look it up and at least prescribe
something to lower my blood pressure during these times. It was crazy to be
in bed and deal with so much, lorezapam helped me from going crazy at
night. I just kept hoping I could  get out of there without any secondary
complications, but I got c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I had the
plague..wearing gowns and masks. My family refused to wear them
because it was pointless because they were so involved with my
care.my gf at the time and father did about everything to keep the
nurses happy. Somehow i made it out of there and could very slowly and
dangerously get in bed and cathe myself. Dad went back to second shift the
day I went home and i had to survive from 2 to midnight alone. I wasn't
sure how fast or if I would fully recover. I wouldn't say Im as good as b4
all that happenned , but Im good enough to make it . Gf broke up with me,
swim organization changed things so i couldn't go back, counselor
quit...and I fell pretty hard emotionally. Im still here though and
with that there is hope.

Ron


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*Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:56 PM
*Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

Greg,
  I was in Nov. 2013- May 2013 and AGAIN now 5 weeks without getting up
AT ALL
What do

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and other quad stuff

[Nan]

I'm going to go on for as long as I can.  Hell ... I want to be in the Guinness 
Book of Records as oldest living quad.  Doubt it will happen, but what the hey.

I guess I'm just usually an optimist.  I can't fathom giving up. Yes, I have 
physical problems, but I just keep going.

I do all the tests, though this years colonoscopy will probably be the last.

I love life.  Even though I spend most of my time at home with my pc, music and 
books (Hey, I live in western NY - who wants to go outside?), I love life.  The 
only thing that could be better would be living in FL!!!

Nan



On Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:42 PM, Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 

Meredith, look at the last posts by myself and Bobbie. That is exactly how we 
feel. We are both over 40 yrs post and have reach the enough is enough point. 
Unless I am suffering with pain -- whatever will be, will be.


-- Forwarded message --
From:  jume9...@comcast.net
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2014
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and 
other quad stuff
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com



I feel bad for all of you guys having all those complicated hospital stays.  It 
is such a drag all the continuous health conditions that we Quads have to deal 
with.  I myself have been pretty lucky so far, oh yeah I am dealing with 2 
pressure sores that I don't have the patience to even be worried about. However 
lately I know that there is something really wrong with my digestive system, 
not the usual BS. I fear it is bad because I have experienced severe A.D. 
lately and I am worried. On the other hand I just cannot worry about one more 
thing. I'm getting too old for this and i don't care to do procedures and  such 
to find bad news that I won't follow up on. 

Do you all feel the same or different?


Meredith



From: daa...@aol.com
To: r pracht r.pra...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:57:47 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month


Hi all,

Sorry to hear about your hospital experiences Ron. That was really rough to 
come home in be by yourself right after surgery. I certainly hope that you are 
shearing from dancing heal quickly..
I had a similar situation and I always wonder why our needs are still so 
misunderstood in-hospitals. It is always a nightmare to have surgery, IV's for 
a UTI, pneumonia, bowel blockages, wounds needing a wound VAC for two months 
and then skin graft. One UTI caused a coma twice, intubation after several 
surgeries. So many nurses have never suctioned.. They still don't understand 
digitals and the bowel routine. I do believe I have had a member of near-death 
experiences through hospitalizations. What are your opinions? I have never 
heard of lorazepam. I'll have to look it up..
Dana
 
In a message dated 10/29/2013 9:12:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:
I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011. I had a 14 
inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound vac. My bowells 
shut down completely and I couldn't eat or drink for close to three weeks. Did 
have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and would throw up if i 
cheated. Every other day my father would come in and between the two of us 
straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair. It was scary with no 
results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be done and the nurses 
werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe independently, but was hooked 
up to a foley and that got plugged up and i went dysreflexic bad, and they 
still didn't believe it was clogged til I went crazy.  The same hospital that 
taught me how to live as a quad and about dysrelexia, suddenly didn't know what 
i was referring to. I told the infectious disease doc to please look it up and 
at least prescribe something
 to lower my blood pressure during these times. It was crazy to be in bed and 
deal with so much, lorezapam helped me from going crazy at night. I just kept 
hoping I could  get out of there without any secondary complications, but I got 
c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I had the plague..wearing gowns 
and masks. My family refused to wear them because it was pointless because they 
were so involved with my care.my gf at the time and father did about 
everything to keep the nurses happy. Somehow i made it out of there and could 
very slowly and dangerously get in bed and cathe myself. Dad went back to 
second shift the day I went home and i had to survive from 2 to midnight alone. 
I wasn't sure how fast or if I would fully recover. I wouldn't say Im as good 
as b4 all that happenned , but Im good enough to make it . Gf broke up with me, 
swim organization changed things so i couldn't go back, counselor 
quit...and I fell pretty hard
 emotionally. Im still here though and with that there is hope.
 
Ron



From: Gmail

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and other quad stuff

[jume9999]

Nan, I'm glad to hear that you are happy, I am not depressed just stuck not 
moving forward mode because everytime I get a few months of actual good 
health. Something else comes up, it is hard to make plans. I know my friends 
don't understand, I stopped explaining years ago. However I know all of you 
know what it is like and I am greatful for this list. I agree with you Larry 
and Bobbie. 

Meredith 

- Original Message -

From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@gmail.com 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:42:48 PM 
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and 
other quad stuff 


Meredith, look at the last posts by myself and Bobbie. That is exactly how we 
feel. We are both over 40 yrs post and have reach the enough is enough point. 
Unless I am suffering with pain -- whatever will be, will be. 


-- Forwarded message -- 
From:  jume9...@comcast.net  
Date: Saturday, March 15, 2014 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month, sores, procedures and 
other quad stuff 
To: quad-list  quad-list@eskimo.com  


I feel bad for all of you guys having all those complicated hospital stays. It 
is such a drag all the continuous health conditions that we Quads have to deal 
with. I myself have been pretty lucky so far, oh yeah I am dealing with 2 
pressure sores that I don't have the patience to even be worried about. However 
lately I know that there is something really wrong with my digestive system, 
not the usual BS. I fear it is bad because I have experienced severe A.D. 
lately and I am worried. On the other hand I just cannot worry about one more 
thing. I'm getting too old for this and i don't care to do procedures and such 
to find bad news that I won't follow up on. 

Do you all feel the same or different? 

Meredith 

From: daa...@aol.com 
To: r pracht  r.pra...@sbcglobal.net , quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:57:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month 

Hi all, 

Sorry to hear about your hospital experiences Ron. That was really rough to 
come home in be by yourself right after surgery. I certainly hope that you are 
shearing from dancing heal quickly.. 
I had a similar situation and I always wonder why our needs are still so 
misunderstood in-hospitals. It is always a nightmare to have surgery, IV's for 
a UTI, pneumonia, bowel blockages, wounds needing a wound VAC for two months 
and then skin graft. One UTI caused a coma twice, intubation after several 
surgeries. So many nurses have never suctioned.. They still don't understand 
digitals and the bowel routine. I do believe I have had a member of near-death 
experiences through hospitalizations. What are your opinions? I have never 
heard of lorazepam. I'll have to look it up.. 
Dana 
In a message dated 10/29/2013 9:12:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: 



I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011. I had a 14 
inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound vac. My bowells 
shut down completely and I couldn't eat or drink for close to three weeks. Did 
have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and would throw up if i 
cheated. Every other day my father would come in and between the two of us 
straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair. It was scary with no 
results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be done and the nurses 
werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe independently, but was hooked 
up to a foley and that got plugged up and i went dysreflexic bad, and they 
still didn't believe it was clogged til I went crazy. The same hospital that 
taught me how to live as a quad and about dysrelexia, suddenly didn't know what 
i was referring to. I told the infectious disease doc to please look it up and 
at least prescribe something to lower my blood pressure during these times. It 
was crazy to be in bed and deal with so much, lorezapam helped me from going 
crazy at night. I just kept hoping I could get out of there without any 
secondary complications, but I got c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I had 
the plague..wearing gowns and masks. My family refused to wear them 
because it was pointless because they were so involved with my care.my 
gf at the time and father did about everything to keep the nurses happy. 
Somehow i made it out of there and could very slowly and dangerously get in bed 
and cathe myself. Dad went back to second shift the day I went home and i had 
to survive from 2 to midnight alone. I wasn't sure how fast or if I would fully 
recover. I wouldn't say Im as good as b4 all that happenned , but Im good 
enough to make it . Gf broke up with me, swim organization changed things so i 
couldn't go back, counselor quit...and I fell pretty hard emotionally. Im 
still here though and with that there is hope. 
Ron 


From: Gmail  bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com  
To: greg  g

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[DAANOO]

Hi all,

Sorry to hear about your hospital experiences Ron. That was  really rough 
to come home in be by yourself right after surgery. I certainly  hope that 
you are shearing from dancing heal quickly..
I had a similar  situation and I always wonder why our needs are still so 
misunderstood  in-hospitals. It is always a nightmare to have surgery, IV's 
for a UTI,  pneumonia, bowel blockages, wounds needing a wound VAC for two 
months and then  skin graft. One UTI caused a coma twice, intubation after 
several  surgeries. So many nurses have never suctioned.. They still don't 
understand  digitals and the bowel routine. I do believe I have had a member of 
near-death  experiences through hospitalizations. What are your opinions? I 
have never heard  of lorazepam. I'll have to look it up..
Dana
 
 
In a message dated 10/29/2013 9:12:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

   
 
I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011.  I had a 
14 inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound  vac. My 
bowells shut down completely and I couldn't eat or drink for close to  
three weeks. Did have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and  
would throw up if i cheated. Every other day my father would come in and  
between the two of us straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair.  
It was scary with no results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be 
 done and the nurses werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe  
independently, but was hooked up to a foley and that got plugged up and i went  
dysreflexic bad, and they still didn't believe it was clogged til I went  
crazy.  The same hospital that taught me how to live as a quad and about  
dysrelexia, suddenly didn't know what i was referring to. I told the  
infectious 
disease doc to please look it up and at  least prescribe something to lower 
my blood pressure during these times. It  was crazy to be in bed and deal 
with so much, lorezapam helped me from going  crazy at night. I just kept 
hoping I could  get out of there without any  secondary complications, but I 
got c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I  had the plague..wearing 
gowns and masks. My family refused to wear  them because it was pointless 
because they were so involved with my  care.my gf at the time and 
father did about everything to keep the  nurses happy. Somehow i made it out of 
there and could very slowly and  dangerously get in bed and cathe myself. 
Dad went back to second shift the  day I went home and i had to survive from 2 
to midnight alone. I wasn't  sure how fast or if I would fully recover. I 
wouldn't say Im as good as b4 all  that happenned , but Im good enough to 
make it . Gf broke up with me, swim  organization changed things so i couldn't 
go back, counselor  quit...and I fell pretty hard emotionally. Im still 
here though and  with that there is hope.
 
Ron



 
 

From: Gmail  bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
To: greg g...@eskimo.com  
Cc:  quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:56  PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Stuck in bed for over a month



 
Greg,
  I was in Nov. 2013- May 2013 and AGAIN now 5 weeks  without getting 
up AT ALL
What do you do to keep your mind busy?
I read, write, watch TV and on my life saver the ipad.Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:42 PM, greg _greg@eskimo.com_ 
(mailto:g...@eskimo.com)  wrote:




Yes, since July.
But I do get up for a couple of hours a  few days a week.
Pressure sore on my butt
I just don't think I can do the surgery.  Having to go 4-6 weeks with no 
getting up at all.
I need a bit of sun a few days a week. I  went a whole week once and it did 
not heal any faster that  week.
Greg
 
 Hi All,
 Is there anybody else  right now who has been stuck in bed for a
 month or more? Just  wondering.  Bobbie

 Smile  Everyday

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Monty]

I just got over six weeks after breaking my leg and followed up by surgery. 
Thank goodness that I could use my laptop while in bed and lots of music from 
online radio! Any other questions feel free to ask, Monty 20 years post 3/4c



On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:12 PM, RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:
 
I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011. I had a 14 
inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound vac. My bowells 
shut down completely and I couldnt eat or drink for close to three weeks. Did 
have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and would throw up if i 
cheated. Every other day my father would come in and between the two of us 
straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair. It was scary with no 
results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be done and the nurses 
werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe independently, but was hooked 
up to a foley and that got plugged up and i went dysreflexic bad, and they 
still didnt believe it was clogged til I went crazy.  The same hospital that 
taught me how to live as a quad and about dysrelexia, suddenly didnt know what 
i was referring to. I told the infectious disease doc to please look it up and 
at least prescribe something to
 lower my blood pressure during these times. It was crazy to be in bed and deal 
with so much, lorezapam helped me from going crazy at night. I just kept hoping 
I could  get out of there without any secondary complications, but I got 
c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I had the plague..wearing gowns 
and masks. My family refused to wear them because it was pointless because they 
were so involved with my care.my gf at the time and father did about 
everything to keep the nurses happy. Somehow i made it out of there and could 
very slowly and dangerously get in bed and cathe myself. Dad went back to 
second shift the day I went home and i had to survive from 2 to midnight alone. 
I wasnt sure how fast or if I would fully recover. I wouldnt say Im as good as 
b4 all that happenned , but Im good enough to make it . Gf broke up with me, 
swim organization changed things so i couldnt go back, counselor quit...and 
I fell pretty hard
 emotionally. Im still here though and with that there is hope.
 
Ron

From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
To: greg g...@eskimo.com 
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month
 


Greg,
      I was in Nov. 2013- May 2013 and AGAIN now 5 weeks without getting up AT 
ALL
What do you do to keep your mind busy?
I read, write, watch TV and on my life saver the ipad.   Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:42 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:


Yes, since July.
But I do get up for a couple of hours a few days a week.
Pressure sore on my butt
I just don't think I can do the surgery. Having to go 4-6 weeks with no 
getting up at all.
I need a bit of sun a few days a week. I went a whole week once and it did not 
heal any faster that week.
Greg
 
 Hi All,
 Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a
 month or more? Just wondering.  Bobbie

 Smile Everyday

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Gmail]

Yea, dancing. I just got my brand new power chair. Pete and I love to go 
dancing at Jazz Festible's. So, I decided on night in a big open space to put 
my chair in high and practice dancing. Get a feel of how this new chair 
responds. So, I made quick left, quick right, quick forward, quick left and 
quick backwards. I did this for about 10 minutes. That night Pete said  ... 
you have some broken skin here on your butt right next to where your wound was 
earlier this year. It looks like Sherring. I told him about practicing dancing 
and he agreed that that was the cause.
So, it looks as though our dancing days are over ... at least fast. We'll have 
to stick to slow dancing ... fine with me.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Patricia Brown-Tulee pl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 dancing?
  
 Patricia L. Brown-Tulee
 pl...@yahoo.com
 
 
 while adding years to your life, add life to your years
 
 
 On Monday, October 28, 2013 6:32 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nan,
  What I have is from dancing ... sheering back in September. I've spent 
 November 2012 - April 2013 in bed, no THIS!
 I'm just GOING NUTS!
 Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 On Oct 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I spent over a year in bed in 1995 (they FINALLY decided to do a Flap) and 
 many months each time I was pregnant.  Have not had to stay in bed since I 
 got my tilt chair and then my tilt  recline chair (I use both). Do you have 
 one?  When I get a spot or a sheer I pretty much have to stay tilted all day 
 every day until it heals.  The time passes much faster and you don't get as 
 sore and achy IN the chair - even though you can't do much but watch 
 TV/movies or listen to music.
 
 Hang in there my friend!! 
 
 Nan
 
 
 On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:19 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi All,
   Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a month 
 or more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[greg]

Yes, since July.
But I do get up for a couple of hours a few days a week.
Pressure sore on my butt
I just don't think I can do the surgery. Having to go 4-6 weeks with no getting up at all.
I need a bit of sun a few days a week. I went a whole week once and it did not heal any faster that week.
Greg

 Hi All,
 Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a
 month or more? Just wondering. Bobbie

 Smile Everyday

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[wheelchair]

Bobbie, have you considered spanking therapy?  It tighten up the skin,  
toughen its and improves feeling and sensation.  
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 10/29/2013 3:44:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:

Yea, dancing. I just got my brand new power chair. Pete and I love to go  d
ancing at Jazz Festible's. So, I decided on night in a big open space to put 
 my chair in high and practice dancing. Get a feel of how this new chair  
responds. So, I made quick left, quick right, quick forward, quick left and  
quick backwards. I did this for about 10 minutes. That night Pete said  ... 
 you have some broken skin here on your butt right next to where your wound 
was  earlier this year. It looks like Sherring. I told him about 
practicing  dancing and he agreed that that was the cause.
So, it looks as though our dancing days are over ... at least fast. We'll  
have to stick to slow dancing ... fine with me.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Patricia Brown-Tulee _plbis@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:pl...@yahoo.com)  wrote:




 
dancing?

 
Patricia L. Brown-Tulee
_PLBis@yahoo.com_ (mailto:pl...@yahoo.com) 



while adding years to your life, add life to your years



 
On Monday, October 28, 2013 6:32 PM,  Gmail _bobbiehumphreys7@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com)   wrote:


 
 
Nan,
 What I have is from dancing ... sheering back in  September. I've 
spent November 2012 - April 2013 in bed, no THIS!
I'm just GOING NUTS!
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday
 

On Oct 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Nan _nlg52352@yahoo.com_ 
(mailto:nlg52...@yahoo.com)  wrote:




 
I spent over a year in bed in 1995 (they FINALLY decided to do  a Flap) and 
many months each time I was pregnant.  Have not had to  stay in bed since I 
got my tilt chair and then my tilt  recline chair  (I use both). Do you 
have one?  When I get a spot or a sheer I pretty  much have to stay tilted all 
day every day until it heals.  The time  passes much faster and you don't 
get as sore and achy IN the chair - even  though you can't do much but watch 
TV/movies or listen to  music.


Hang  in there my friend!! 


Nan



 
On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:19 PM,  Gmail _bobbiehumphreys7@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com)   wrote:

Hi All,
Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed  for a month or 
more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday




















=

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Gmail]

Greg,
  I was in Nov. 2013- May 2013 and AGAIN now 5 weeks without getting up AT 
ALL
What do you do to keep your mind busy?
I read, write, watch TV and on my life saver the ipad.   Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:42 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 Yes, since July.
 But I do get up for a couple of hours a few days a week.
 Pressure sore on my butt
 I just don't think I can do the surgery. Having to go 4-6 weeks with no 
 getting up at all.
 I need a bit of sun a few days a week. I went a whole week once and it did 
 not heal any faster that week.
 Greg
  
  Hi All,
  Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a
  month or more? Just wondering.  Bobbie
 
  Smile Everyday

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Gmail]

I lower one of my armrests then Pete sits on it, we hold each other and rock to 
the music. Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:16 PM, heyjude48...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Hi Bobbie,
 How does it work when you and Pete slow dance?  I've tried to picture it in 
 my mind,  but I can't figure out how Pete holds on to you and how you both 
 move while you're dancing.
 Thanks,
 Jude
  
 In a message dated 10/29/2013 4:44:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com writes:
 Yea, dancing. I just got my brand new power chair. Pete and I love to go 
 dancing at Jazz Festible's. So, I decided on night in a big open space to put 
 my chair in high and practice dancing. Get a feel of how this new chair 
 responds. So, I made quick left, quick right, quick forward, quick left and 
 quick backwards. I did this for about 10 minutes. That night Pete said  ... 
 you have some broken skin here on your butt right next to where your wound 
 was earlier this year. It looks like Sherring. I told him about practicing 
 dancing and he agreed that that was the cause.
 So, it looks as though our dancing days are over ... at least fast. We'll 
 have to stick to slow dancing ... fine with me.
 Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Patricia Brown-Tulee pl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 dancing?
  
 Patricia L. Brown-Tulee
 pl...@yahoo.com
 
 
 while adding years to your life, add life to your years
 
 
 On Monday, October 28, 2013 6:32 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Nan,
  What I have is from dancing ... sheering back in September. I've spent 
 November 2012 - April 2013 in bed, no THIS!
 I'm just GOING NUTS!
 Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 On Oct 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I spent over a year in bed in 1995 (they FINALLY decided to do a Flap) and 
 many months each time I was pregnant.  Have not had to stay in bed since I 
 got my tilt chair and then my tilt  recline chair (I use both). Do you 
 have one?  When I get a spot or a sheer I pretty much have to stay tilted 
 all day every day until it heals.  The time passes much faster and you 
 don't get as sore and achy IN the chair - even though you can't do much but 
 watch TV/movies or listen to music.
 
 Hang in there my friend!! 
 
 Nan
 
 
 On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:19 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi All,
   Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a month 
 or more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 =

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[RONALD L PRACHT]

I did over a month in the hospital when my appendix burst in 2011. I had a 14 
inch incision down my abdomen area and was hooked up to a wound vac. My bowells 
shut down completely and I couldnt eat or drink for close to three weeks. Did 
have minimal sips of water but had the tube in my nose and would throw up if i 
cheated. Every other day my father would come in and between the two of us 
straining, I would attempt to get onto the bowell chair. It was scary with no 
results, pain, passing out on the chair but it had to be done and the nurses 
werent going to do it. I normally straight cathe independently, but was hooked 
up to a foley and that got plugged up and i went dysreflexic bad, and they 
still didnt believe it was clogged til I went crazy.  The same hospital that 
taught me how to live as a quad and about dysrelexia, suddenly didnt know what 
i was referring to. I told the infectious disease doc to please look it up and 
at least prescribe something to
 lower my blood pressure during these times. It was crazy to be in bed and deal 
with so much, lorezapam helped me from going crazy at night. I just kept hoping 
I could  get out of there without any secondary complications, but I got 
c-diff. Then everybody treated me like I had the plague..wearing gowns 
and masks. My family refused to wear them because it was pointless because they 
were so involved with my care.my gf at the time and father did about 
everything to keep the nurses happy. Somehow i made it out of there and could 
very slowly and dangerously get in bed and cathe myself. Dad went back to 
second shift the day I went home and i had to survive from 2 to midnight alone. 
I wasnt sure how fast or if I would fully recover. I wouldnt say Im as good as 
b4 all that happenned , but Im good enough to make it . Gf broke up with me, 
swim organization changed things so i couldnt go back, counselor quit...and 
I fell pretty hard
 emotionally. Im still here though and with that there is hope.
 
Ron
 


 From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
To: greg g...@eskimo.com 
Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month
  


Greg,
      I was in Nov. 2013- May 2013 and AGAIN now 5 weeks without getting up AT 
ALL
What do you do to keep your mind busy?
I read, write, watch TV and on my life saver the ipad.   Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

On Oct 29, 2013, at 5:42 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:


Yes, since July. 
But I do get up for a couple of hours a few days a week. 
Pressure sore on my butt 
I just don't think I can do the surgery. Having to go 4-6 weeks with no 
getting up at all. 
I need a bit of sun a few days a week. I went a whole week once and it did not 
heal any faster that week. 
Greg 

 Hi All, 
 Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a 
 month or more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday 

[QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Gmail]

Hi All,
   Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a month or 
more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Nan]

I spent over a year in bed in 1995 (they FINALLY decided to do a Flap) and many 
months each time I was pregnant.  Have not had to stay in bed since I got my 
tilt chair and then my tilt  recline chair (I use both). Do you have one?  
When I get a spot or a sheer I pretty much have to stay tilted all day every 
day until it heals.  The time passes much faster and you don't get as sore and 
achy IN the chair - even though you can't do much but watch TV/movies or listen 
to music.

Hang in there my friend!! 

Nan



On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:19 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Hi All,
       Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a month or 
more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

RE: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Richard Kratt]

2 years 2 months in VA hospital.  But who's counting?  

-Original Message-
From: Gmail [mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:19 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

Hi All,
   Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a month
or more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck in bed for over a month

[Gmail]

Nan,
 What I have is from dancing ... sheering back in September. I've spent 
November 2012 - April 2013 in bed, no THIS!
I'm just GOING NUTS!
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Oct 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I spent over a year in bed in 1995 (they FINALLY decided to do a Flap) and 
 many months each time I was pregnant.  Have not had to stay in bed since I 
 got my tilt chair and then my tilt  recline chair (I use both). Do you have 
 one?  When I get a spot or a sheer I pretty much have to stay tilted all day 
 every day until it heals.  The time passes much faster and you don't get as 
 sore and achy IN the chair - even though you can't do much but watch 
 TV/movies or listen to music.
 
 Hang in there my friend!! 
 
 Nan
 
 
 On Monday, October 28, 2013 4:19 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,
   Is there anybody else right now who has been stuck in bed for a month 
 or more? Just wondering.  Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[LadyNotes]

Dana,
 
It is not a given that physical therapy will help me, but it is the only  
thing left to try.  It cannot hurt me.  

Naomi
C-4 quad, incomplete since July  2, 2005
Transverse Myelitis




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[LadyNotes]

Greg,
 
For some reason, the visual of your last sentence, cracked me up.   That was 
so funny to me.  Probably, because I've been in the same situation  and 
thought the same way.  

Naomi
C-4 quad, incomplete since July  2, 2005
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[LadyNotes]

Dave, stay away from the pool!  Please!  Don't scare me like  that.  

Naomi
C-4 quad, incomplete since July  2, 2005
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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Oconnelldb]

 
 
how about i just be real careful?
without me, it would be green like pea soup.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/24/2007 10:50:56 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
LadyNotes writes:

Dave, stay away from the pool!  Please!  Don't scare me like  that.  

Naomi
C-4 quad, incomplete since  July 2, 2005
Transverse Myelitis




 

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[LadyNotes]

Okay, Dave.  I guess I can live with being very careful.  

Naomi
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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[shellbell5705]

New to living life in a wheelchair.  Have fallen out of it so many times I'v 
recieved a tee-shirt that says If you can read this put me back into my 
chair. 

Lesson learned today: Don't leave home without my cell.

Thanks for sharing

Shelly
C5-C6 incomplete since July 31 2006


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again





yesterday out by my pool, i cut  the corner too short and my left power wheel 
dropped over.   i leaned way to the right and went back and forth a few times 
-  i finally got out  whew.   it gets to 110 here these days and my cell would 
have gone in with me.  i'm not strapped in so i would have floated free but 
getting out and into the house would have been rough.  i'm much more careful 
now  i don't even like going out there without my cell.  i'm alone most days.

dave

 

 

 

 

 In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:28:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:



I got stuck again yesterday.

Walking my dog, I was turning around on the sidewalk and my back wheel dropped 
off into the dirt. It was a bit of an edge and while trying to get my rear 
wheel back on, one of the front ones slipped off too. Very soft dirt and it 
sunk in. Too much of an edge to get back up. I’m lucky I had my cell, I almost 
left it thinking I’d just be in the area.

I’ve gotten stuck so many times, I’d probably be a skeleton sitting in a 
wheelchair somewhere if not for my cell.

Greg







 

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[Oconnelldb]

 
 
as one gets older, the distance from the floor to the seat increases
the floor also gets harder.
 
 
In a message dated 7/24/2007 12:30:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

New to  living life in a wheelchair.  Have fallen out of it so many times I'v 
 recieved a tee-shirt that says If you can read this put me back into my  
chair. 

Lesson learned today: Don't leave home without my  cell.

Thanks for sharing

Shelly
C5-C6 incomplete since  July 31 2006


-Original Message-
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:12  pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again


 
 
yesterday out by my pool, i cut  the corner too short and my left  power 
wheel dropped over.   i leaned way to the right and went back  and forth a few 
times -  i finally got out  whew.   it  gets to 110 here these days and my cell 
would have gone in with me.  i'm  not strapped in so i would have floated free 
but getting out and into the  house would have been rough.  i'm much more 
careful now  i don't  even like going out there without my cell.  i'm alone 
most 
days.
dave
 
 
 
 
 In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:28:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard  Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  writes:

 
I got stuck again  yesterday.
Walking my dog, I was turning  around on the sidewalk and my back wheel 
dropped off into the dirt. It was a  bit of an edge and while trying to get my 
rear 
wheel back on, one of the  front ones slipped off too. Very soft dirt and it 
sunk in. Too much of an  edge to get back up. I’m lucky I had my cell, I 
almost left it thinking I’d  just be in the area.
I’ve gotten stuck so many times,  I’d probably be a skeleton sitting in a 
wheelchair somewhere if not for my  cell.
Greg





 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[DAANOO]

 
In a message dated 7/23/2007 10:13:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 
 
yesterday out by my pool, i cut  the corner too short and my left  power 
wheel dropped over.   i leaned way to the right and went back  and forth a few 
times -  i finally got out  whew.   it  gets to 110 here these days and my cell 
would have gone in with me.  i'm  not strapped in so i would have floated free 
but getting out and into the  house would have been rough.  i'm much more 
careful now  i don't  even like going out there without my cell.  i'm alone 
most 
days.
dave
 
 
So sorryGreg.  I guess you don't wear a belt  of any kind?  I don't wear my 
shoulder belt around the house when I go  out I use my shoulder strap.  Do 
other quads were belts?Just  wondering!
Dana


In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:28:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard  Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I got stuck again  yesterday. 
Walking my dog, I was turning  around on the sidewalk and my back wheel 
dropped off into the dirt. It was a  bit of an edge and while trying to get my 
rear 
wheel back on, one of the  front ones slipped off too. Very soft dirt and it 
sunk in. Too much of an  edge to get back up. I’m lucky I had my cell, I 
almost left it thinking I’d  just be in the area. 
I’ve gotten stuck so many times,  I’d probably be a skeleton sitting in a 
wheelchair somewhere if not for my  cell. 
Greg




 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Oconnelldb]

 
 
i would never wear a belt out by the pool.   i have jumping dogs  and young 
grand kids that love to go for my joystick.  my hands work pretty  reasonable 
for a quad but i don't think i could hold my breath long enough to  unsnap a 
lap belt  especially if i was face down with the chair on top of  me.  i'll 
take 
a bonk from falling out first.  (hasn't happened yet  even hitting the power 
button - conveniently located where i rest my hand to  drive  - going down a 
ramp.)   i am much more careful now  though.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/24/2007 1:34:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
In a message dated 7/23/2007 10:13:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 
 
yesterday out by my pool, i cut  the corner too short and my left  power 
wheel dropped over.   i leaned way to the right and went  back and forth a few 
times -  i finally got out  whew.it gets to 110 here these days and my cell 
would have gone in with me.   i'm not strapped in so i would have floated free 
but getting out and into  the house would have been rough.  i'm much more 
careful now  i  don't even like going out there without my cell.  i'm alone 
most  
days.
dave
 
 
So sorryGreg.  I guess you don't wear a  belt of any kind?  I don't wear my 
shoulder belt around the house when  I go out I use my shoulder strap.  Do 
other quads were belts?Just  wondering!
Dana


In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:28:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard  Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I got stuck again  yesterday. 
Walking my dog, I was turning  around on the sidewalk and my back wheel 
dropped off into the dirt. It was  a bit of an edge and while trying to get my 
rear 
wheel back on, one of the  front ones slipped off too. Very soft dirt and it 
sunk in. Too much of an  edge to get back up. I’m lucky I had my cell, I 
almost left it thinking  I’d just be in the area. 
I’ve gotten stuck so many  times, I’d probably be a skeleton sitting in a 
wheelchair somewhere if not  for my cell. 
Greg




 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

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[QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Greg]

I got stuck again yesterday.

Walking my dog, I was turning around on the sidewalk and my back wheel
dropped off into the dirt. It was a bit of an edge and while trying to get
my rear wheel back on, one of the front ones slipped off too. Very soft dirt
and it sunk in. Too much of an edge to get back up. I'm lucky I had my cell,
I almost left it thinking I'd just be in the area.

I've gotten stuck so many times, I'd probably be a skeleton sitting in a
wheelchair somewhere if not for my cell.

Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck Again

[Oconnelldb]

 
 
yesterday out by my pool, i cut  the corner too short and my left  power 
wheel dropped over.   i leaned way to the right and went back  and forth a few 
times -  i finally got out  whew.   it gets  to 110 here these days and my cell 
would have gone in with me.  i'm not  strapped in so i would have floated free 
but getting out and into the house  would have been rough.  i'm much more 
careful now  i don't even like  going out there without my cell.  i'm alone 
most 
days.
dave
 
 
 
 
 In a message dated 7/23/2007 6:28:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
I got stuck again  yesterday. 
Walking my dog, I was turning  around on the sidewalk and my back wheel 
dropped off into the dirt. It was a  bit of an edge and while trying to get my 
rear 
wheel back on, one of the front  ones slipped off too. Very soft dirt and it 
sunk in. Too much of an edge to  get back up. I’m lucky I had my cell, I 
almost left it thinking I’d just be in  the area. 
I’ve gotten stuck so many times,  I’d probably be a skeleton sitting in a 
wheelchair somewhere if not for my  cell. 
Greg




 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck

[~LittleQuad~]

glad you are free and yes thank goodness for cell phonesGreg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I got
 stuck..!  I was always scared to go far from my house, incase my chair broke or something. But now that I got my cell phone and Bluetooth, I’m exploring my whole neighborhood. I found an unknown path that wound its way around these new housing developments. Beautifully landscaped, next to a golf course, about ¾ of mile long. But then it just ended. There was a dirt/gravel path that went left. Heading towards a main street. It had about an inch lip and went down hill. I knew going down would be fine, but if the trail did not go through, could I get back over it. I didn’t try. Next day I tried finding the path from the other side. I did. After going about 75 feet down, the dirt path gave way and I slide sideways into a mud hole. I didn’t move far, just enough to sink about 6
 inches. No way of driving out. I waited a bit, called out a bit. Knowing I was too stuck to call for my attendant to get me out, I broke down and called 911 (I’m going to add just the non emergency police number now). Just as I was giving directions, a truck with landscapers shows up and gets me out.  I guess going down a soft dirt paths with mud on the edges, isn’t a real smart thing to do. I keep thinking, What if no phone, what if no landscapers…That’s the 2nd time I had to call for help. First was when I was driving down a sidewalk, hit a piece of gravel, that made my hand come
 off the control and my chair stopped immediately. My momentum made me fall forward… No chest strap. I was to far forward to reach the control or recline switch. I had to call home for help.Thanks for cell phones…Greg

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck

[Oconnelldb]

I fell once in Detroit in the winter and got stuck in snow once. Fell 
over backwards here in Phoenix one July. Thank goodness for good 
Samaritans. I prefer staying in public places - and no dirt paths.
Dave



In a message dated 7/11/2006 11:53:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  I got 
  stuck..!
  I was always scared to go far from 
  my house, incase my chair broke or something. But now that I got my cell phone 
  and Bluetooth, I’m exploring my whole neighborhood. I found an unknown path 
  that wound its way around these new housing developments. Beautifully 
  landscaped, next to a golf course, about ¾ of mile long. But then it just 
  ended. There was a dirt/gravel path that went left. Heading towards a main 
  street. It had about an inch lip and went down hill. I knew going down would 
  be fine, but if the trail did not go through, could I get back over it. I 
  didn’t try. Next day I tried finding the path from the other side. I did. 
  After going about 75 feet down, the dirt path gave way and I slide sideways 
  into a mud hole. I didn’t move far, just enough to sink about 6 inches. No way 
  of driving out. I waited a bit, called out a bit. Knowing I was too stuck to 
  call for my attendant to get me out, I broke down and called 911 (I’m going to 
  add just the non emergency police number now). Just as I was giving 
  directions, a truck with landscapers shows up and gets me 
  out.
  I guess going down a soft dirt 
  paths with mud on the edges, isn’t a real smart thing to do. I keep thinking, 
  What if no phone, what if no landscapers…
  
  That’s the 2nd time I 
  had to call for help. First was when I was driving down a sidewalk, hit a 
  piece of gravel, that made my hand come off the control and my chair stopped 
  immediately. My momentum made me fall forward… No chest strap. I was to far 
  forward to reach the control or recline switch. I had to call home for 
  help.
  

  Thanks for cell 
  phones…
  
  Greg


Dave 
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c3-inc-1967

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck

[Lori Michaelson]

When I posted that post about the female quadriplegic found dead in Florida because she apparently got stuck in the sand and in a park in the middle of the day in summer ... I thought that was total insanity to head out by herself like that for so many reasons. Primarily the god-awful heat! Since there was absolutely no one around in the park or nearby for a long time [long enough for her to end up dead] ... it was obviously too hot for even able-bodied folks to be out in such miserable heat in the middle of the day!

Anyway, like I said back then in my post ... I am so fortunate to have dozens and dozens and dozens of streets here in North Tucson whereby it is very quiet and serene yet I am always near houses and streets that will have only a few cars passing by ... usually not more than five or 10 minutes go by before I see someone.

However, Greg, I had a similar experience like you described as your second problem. It happened 4 1/2 years ago in my own subdivision! I was strolling along at a pretty good clip and I have found since then that might share does not like that very much and will automatically stop!

I was also thrown forward because of the momentum but I was able to sit back up. My problem was that I was unable to push the on/off button to turn my chair back on. Any other time, a car would be entry or leaving our subdivision of about 40 houses back then. But over 15 minutes went by and not a single car or person was in sight! I couldn't believe it.

Fortunately, it was not warm or too cold but I just sat there wondering what to do. I was actually sitting next to someone's house and, finally, the woman inside that house happened to be by her kitchen window and saw me sitting out there. She opened the window and asked if I was okay. I told her my problem and she came and pushed the button for me.

So see? Sometimes the worst can happen under almost the best of circumstances!

The only slightly scary thing that has happened to me during one of my strolls in my area here [in a bigger subdivision and neighborhood area than where we lived for years ago]... was when I went down the street to a very quaint park .7 miles from my home. As always, I had my dog with me and we were walking around the paved walkways inside the park as well as the grassy area. The park was deserted except for only one mother and her two little children that were playing on the play equipment.

On my way out of the park I heard the mother tell her little boy "oh look--there is a baby havalena!" For those of you who do not know what that is ... they are wild pigs found in the desert. They are nocturnal animals so they are rarely seen during the day. I had never seen one so I turned around to look. The little dark brown pig was sniffing a cactus shrub area that my dog had just been sniffing at only moments before!!!

Havalenas can take apart a dog in a matter of minutes. Unlike the mother and her children ... I obviously could not climb up the ladder on the playground equipment like they could if necessary. For the baby pig to be alone ... is very rare. I took a quick look and then began to zoom out of there ASAP.

As always, I told my husband where I was headed and he was probably going to drive my van over to pick me up at the park. He was just driving the van down the entrance road to the park as I was headed out. He stopped the van and I got in. We then drove the short distance to the parking lot to see if we could see the baby pig.

My husband is very familiar with the southwest because that is where he grew up. I told him what happened and he said that it was a good thing that I began leaving the park becausebaby pigs are never orrarely alone and that meant that the mama and/or papa was not far behind. The park is surrounded by desert so that is obviously where they were. Again, they are hardly ever seen during the daytime but I was very lucky not to still be in the middle of the parkOR out in the grass where my dog andI were only minutes before!

Even if I took a cell phone with me ... I would still tell someone the approximate area where I was going to be because there are so many things that can happen even with a cell phone. Like being in an area where there is no signal. Or dropping the phone, etc. etc. Etc..

The female quadriplegic'sfate in Florida has been closed by the medical examiner's decision but I still do not agree with what her final findings were so there is nothing like double or triple safety measures to take!

Lori
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7/11/2006 2:06:10 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck



I fell once in Detroit in the winter and got stuck in snow once. Fell over backwards here in Phoenix one July. Thank goodness for good Samaritans. I prefer staying in public places - and no dirt paths.
Dave



In a message dated 7/11/2006 11:53:55 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I got stuck..!
I was alw

Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck

[alanh77]

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/11/06 
   at 04:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I fell once in Detroit in the winter and got stuck in snow once.  Fell 
over  backwards here in Phoenix one July.  Thank goodness for good 
Samaritans.  I  prefer staying in public places - and no dirt paths.

Back when I was still able to cruise around my neighborhood and general
vicinity every nice day, I was out of the neigborhood when I went over a
bump in the sidewalk a little too fast.  My feet slid off the footrests,
and my butt slid forward (not off the chair.)  I tilted the chair back so
I wouldn't slide out the rest of the way, and slowly made my way home.


Alan

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[William Willis]

I hit a hole in my backyard and was thrown  forward. My head was between my 
knees, I couldn't breathe, and it was in the 90's. I could neither yell nor 
get up. After about 15 min of gasping and burning, I was rescued by my wife 
who saw me out the window. Another 5 min and I would have been a goner. Now 
I always wear a chest strap when I'm outside.



From: ~LittleQuad~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED], quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stuck
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:42:24 -0700 (PDT)

glad you are free and yes thank goodness for cell phones

Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I got stuck..!
  I was always scared to go far from my house, incase my chair broke or 
something. But now that I got my cell phone and Bluetooth, I’m exploring my 
whole neighborhood. I found an unknown path that wound its way around these 
new housing developments. Beautifully landscaped, next to a golf course, 
about ¾ of mile long. But then it just ended. There was a dirt/gravel path 
that went left. Heading towards a main street. It had about an inch lip and 
went down hill. I knew going down would be fine, but if the trail did not 
go through, could I get back over it. I didn’t try. Next day I tried 
finding the path from the other side. I did. After going about 75 feet 
down, the dirt path gave way and I slide sideways into a mud hole. I didn’t 
move far, just enough to sink about 6 inches. No way of driving out. I 
waited a bit, called out a bit. Knowing I was too stuck to call for my 
attendant to get me out, I broke down and called 911 (I’m going to add just 
the non emergency police number
 now). Just as I was giving directions, a truck with landscapers shows up 
and gets me out.
  I guess going down a soft dirt paths with mud on the edges, isn’t a real 
smart thing to do. I keep thinking, What if no phone, what if no 
landscapers…


  That’s the 2nd time I had to call for help. First was when I was driving 
down a sidewalk, hit a piece of gravel, that made my hand come off the 
control and my chair stopped immediately. My momentum made me fall forward… 
No chest strap. I was to far forward to reach the control or recline 
switch. I had to call home for help.


  Thanks for cell phones…

  Greg