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Ain't Smurfs supost to be blue. Lol Silas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances In a message dated 16/01/2005 17:39:50 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Smurf arent you in Australia or England? I thought the Goth look was a New York Fashion Statement!!! :) just joking Im sure you look great in all black I bet it makes it easy going shopping. :) I started classes at Ivy Tech Tuesday theres a whole group of kids that are into The Goth Culture as you said you are who you are. Im sure their parents are thinking differently. And if you were into Grunge that would be cool or if they were into Grunge intentionally instead of just being the UNDESIRED look they have. I wish I was in Australia - it's been a life long dream! I'm in England, about an hour away to the right of London. The whole Goth look isn't something that society agrees with here, but to me I feel normal. There's one place about 40 minutes away called Canterbury, and that's Goth city! I'll paste a piccy of me below of me as a Goth, then you can tell me if I look anything like a NY chick!!! I think too many kids go Goth because it's the fashion; that's usually the time I go sporty, then when the fashion moves onto something else I go back to being Goth. I can't speak for everyone, but the Goth image displays me, it's who I am. One thing I hate though is when people "follow the fashion" - I change styles to remain unique! hehe Rubbish piccy I know, but what do you think?! Bet you never expected ever to see a Gothic Smurf in this lifetime! Love Smurf xxx image/jpeg
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In a message dated 17/01/2005 00:10:00 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Smurf, You go Goth if you want, girl. If a Smurf can't go Goth...well then who can? I'm just glad you've got the bottle to be yourself! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA Hey CtrlAltDel, How are you? It's taken time for me to get the bottle to show the world who I am, but I'm pleased I can now, and I definitely wouldn't change it, just recommend it to others! The only thing is my 10year old nephew is also following the tend even more so now because he wants to be like Auntie Sarah! Thankfully his mum don't mind, although he does look dead cute with his black nail varnish and eye liner on! He don't care what people thinks about him - now that's what I call gutts! Love Smurf xxx
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I DEFINITELY think only those with dark hair can look ok in the Goth thing. Black sure does nothing for me. Pastels...yes. My step-daughter moved in with us in 2001 and she thought "Daddy" was going to let her buy anything everything in the Gothic store "Hot Topic." She said "it's essential!" Dad told her to wait till school started to see if she still felt that way. Her tune did change. And we weren't going to buy "Gothic ESSENTALS" LOL ... anyway. T-shirts jeans became her style quickly. I've noticed that, since the 1980s, with girls and women... anything goes these days! The ONLY "in" thing I've noticed on tv or in towns... is girls under 30 who are thin ... they wear the low-cut jeans (enough for belly-button to show) with big belts and shorter tops. My one niece (as a teen and early 20s) was definitely anti-fashion. She's 30 now a teacher so she dresses accordingly. I'm at the age where I'm old enough not to be anti-fashion. Or into fashion. No extremes. Just nice clothing. My ONLY change has been ... that "prior" to 8 yrs ago ... I wouldn't be caught dead in sweat pants or polyester/cotton pants. JEANS ONLY. Every color imaginable but JEANS ONLY in winter. In summer I've been wearing cullottes/pedal-pushers/capris or the name du jour of those that go to the knee to cover my leg bag which I wear on my thigh in summer. My 25th yr of doing that. Capris seem to be in style every summer lately anyway. I like Amanda Quick's Gothic Romance novels and gothic history. But as "fashion" or "not" ...not high on my priority scale. Especially spending 5 months in bed for a wound. UTIs and staying alive. Lori ---Original Message--- I can't speak for everyone, but the Goth image displays me, it's who I am. One thing I hate though is when people "follow the fashion" - I change styles to remain unique! hehe Rubbish piccy I know, but what do you think?! Bet you never expected ever to see a Gothic Smurf in this lifetime! Love Smurf xxx
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Title: Message Smurf A cute Gothwho knew there was a possibility!and not severe After living years in NYC, I can say "very East Village(Goth central)" you should give it a go...if that appeals NYUniversity/Washington square is right there separates the East Village from the West Village at the middle of the island where 5th Ave. starts what are you studying again? schools- they got! life is short- you are young-go, girl,go regards, Cameron -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:56 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances In a message dated 16/01/2005 17:39:50 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Smurf arent you in Australia or England? I thought the Goth look was a New York Fashion Statement!!! :) just joking Im sure you look great in all black I bet it makes it easy going shopping. :) I started classes at Ivy Tech Tuesday theres a whole group of kids that are into The Goth Culture as you said you are who you are. Im sure their parents are thinking differently. And if you were into Grunge that would be cool or if they were into Grunge intentionally instead of just being the UNDESIRED look they have. I wish I was in Australia - it's been a life long dream! I'm in England, about an hour away to the right of London. The whole Goth look isn't something that society agrees with here, but to me I feel normal. There's one place about 40 minutes away called Canterbury, and that's Goth city! I'll paste a piccy of me below of me as a Goth, then you can tell me if I look anything like a NY chick!!! I think too many kids go Goth because it's the fashion; that's usually the time I go sporty, then when the fashion moves onto something else I go back to being Goth. I can't speak for everyone, but the Goth image displays me, it's who I am. One thing I hate though is when people "follow the fashion" - I change styles to remain unique! hehe Rubbish piccy I know, but what do you think?! Bet you never expected ever to see a Gothic Smurf in this lifetime! Love Smurf xxx attachment: Untitled.jpg
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Cameron agrees Ud fit right in over here Goth Smurf :) NY City is where U need 2B On 1/16/05 4:47 PM, Cameron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smurf A cute Gothwho knew there was a possibility! and not severe After living years in NYC, I can say very East Village(Goth central) you should give it a go...if that appeals NYUniversity/Washington square is right there separates the East Village from the West Village at the middle of the island where 5th Ave. starts what are you studying again? schools- they got! life is short- you are young-go, girl,go regards, Cameron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances In a message dated 16/01/2005 17:39:50 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Smurf arent you in Australia or England? I thought the Goth look was a New York Fashion Statement!!! :) just joking Im sure you look great in all black I bet it makes it easy going shopping. :) I started classes at Ivy Tech Tuesday theres a whole group of kids that are into The Goth Culture as you said you are who you are. Im sure their parents are thinking differently. And if you were into Grunge that would be cool or if they were into Grunge intentionally instead of just being the UNDESIRED look they have. I wish I was in Australia - it's been a life long dream! I'm in England, about an hour away to the right of London. The whole Goth look isn't something that society agrees with here, but to me I feel normal. There's one place about 40 minutes away called Canterbury, and that's Goth city! I'll paste a piccy of me below of me as a Goth, then you can tell me if I look anything like a NY chick!!! I think too many kids go Goth because it's the fashion; that's usually the time I go sporty, then when the fashion moves onto something else I go back to being Goth. I can't speak for everyone, but the Goth image displays me, it's who I am. One thing I hate though is when people follow the fashion - I change styles to remain unique! hehe Rubbish piccy I know, but what do you think?! Bet you never expected ever to see a Gothic Smurf in this lifetime! Love Smurf xxx
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Hi Smurf, You go Goth if you want, girl. If a Smurf can't go Goth...well then who can? I'm just glad you've got the bottle to be yourself! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/01/2005 22:17:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just don’t care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because I’m disabled doesn’t mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I don’t want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesn’t want to see it. I understand if there’s no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that ev! eryone didn’t have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if it’s a new fashion statement. I personally have found that since having my sci I have been even more conscious about the way I look! It's only been in the past year that I've had the gutts to start being a Goth - an image that I had always wanted to have but didn't have the bottle to. I get a lot of strange looks, but I also get a lot of puzzled looks, as though they are asking themselves "why is someone in a wheelchair looking like a Goth??" I am who I am, and I'm pleased to say that I live by that when it comes to my appearance, and if someone in society doesn't like it TOUGH SHIT is my attitude! And now I shall go and get some dinner! hehe Take care, Love Smurf xxx
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Hi Smurf, It's a great pic! I thought all Smurfs were Goths in training so I'm not surprised that you'd go Goth! :) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 16/01/2005 17:39:50 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Smurf aren’t you in Australia or England? I thought the Goth look was a New York Fashion Statement!!! :) just joking I’m sure you look great in all black I bet it makes it easy going shopping. :) I started classes at Ivy Tech Tuesday theres a whole group of kids that are into The Goth Culture as you said you are who you are. I’m sure their parents are thinking differently. And if you were into “Grunge” that would be cool or if they were into Grunge intentionally instead of just being the UNDESIRED look they have. I wish I was in Australia - it's been a life long dream! I'm in England, about an hour away to the right of London. The whole Goth look isn't something that society agrees with here, but to me I feel normal. There's one place about 40 minutes away called Canterbury, and that's Goth city! I'll paste a piccy of me below of me as a Goth, then you can tell me if I look anything like a NY chick!!! I think too many kids go Goth because it's the fashion; that's usually the time I go sporty, then when the fashion moves onto something else I go back to being Goth. I can't speak for everyone, but the Goth image displays me, it's who I am. One thing I hate though is when people "follow the fashion" - I change styles to remain unique! hehe Rubbish piccy I know, but what do you think?! Bet you never expected ever to see a Gothic Smurf in this lifetime! Love Smurf xxx
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I'm with you. I do look like crap sometimes and I don't care, but also it's when I am home. I'm not worried about what I look like when I am here. I take care of myself like I did before I was sick. If I want to veg and pull up my hair without even brushing it yet, then that is what I am going to do. I make it to brush my teeth and that is about it. I do change if I am going to go somewhere but I do run into neighbors when I go to check the mail but I also run into the same neighbors when I am going out and returning home so they know that I care what I look like in public. I actually came to be very close with my neighbors next door and know the guy across the street from before I got sick. I have gotten friendly with the other surrounding neighbors and they are still friendly with me and have conversations with me no matter what I look like. I just make sure I look decent when I am going somewhere.I dont put on my leg bag unless I go out. If I leave to check the mail or sit outside, I just make sure the bed bag that is hanging fromchair is empty andmost of the tubing is pushed under my pant leg. I dont make an extra effort to curl my hair or put on makeup every time I go out. The only time I put on make up is if I have dark circles underneath or look pasty that day. I still think I look good without it. I also dont bother curling my hair all the time. I have way to much to be bothered with it all the time. It's over half way down my back. I do throw rollers in it to get out the frizz after blow drying it and get some curl to the ends b/c it's layered and looks like crap if I don't but if it's a day that I dont wash my hair and going somewhere, it's going it a pony tail which I think still looks nice. I go to Wal-Mart, grocery store, etc..and run into someone I know just about every time I go. I knew a lot of people when I waited tables and can't go anywhere without knowing someone. They look like crap too in sweats, no make up, and hair thrown up. The guys usually look worse. I just make sure I look decent. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances In a message dated 12/01/2005 22:17:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just dont care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I dont want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesnt want to see it. I understand if theres no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didnt have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if its a new fashion statement. I personally have found that since having my sci I have been even more conscious about the way I look! It's only been in the past year that I've had the gutts to start being a Goth - an image that I had always wanted to have but didn't have the bottle to. I get a lot of strange looks, but I also get a lot of puzzled looks, as though they are asking themselves "why is someone in a wheelchair looking like a Goth??" I am who I am, and I'm pleased to say that I live by that when it comes to my appearance, and if someone in society doesn't like it TOUGH SHIT is my attitude! And now I shall go and get some dinner! hehe Take care, Love Smurf xxx
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Hi WW, I'll bet you knock them out, too! :) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA andrea murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave, I alway dress in great out fits. I work at Purdue Calumet. I maybe the Wheelchair Warrior, but I dress to kill. Wheelchair Warrior"David K. Kelmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this would be a good time to say that IMHO it sounds to me like we have some fine looking ladies on the Q-List! :-) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every single day I wear a dress or skirt and make-up. I don't even own a pair of blue jeans [because I don't wear pants] but I do have a denim (sp) skirt. OH, and I also try and wear a smile too. Bobbie Do you Yahoo!?Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ATTACHMENT part 2 image/jpeg name=010_7A.JPG
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I hafta work at it Dave! LOL. So many women can pull back their hair straight back ALL away from their face forehead into a pony tail... ya know a lady is pretty if she does that and looks good! Not I! I need bangs - square forehead or something. Some people may think I broke my nose in my accident - nope .. born with a big nose and a hump in it. Russian ancestry! Everyone knows my looks. Speaking of attire ... on our website ... www.michaelsons.org ... all photos taken of me were "everyday" photos. I did *nothing or wore nothing special* for the pics. The only thing we didwith pics of Dave I together ... was to wear the same color :-) Lori ---Original Message--- From: David K. Kelmer Date: 01/13/05 15:48:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances I think this would be a good time to say that IMHO it sounds to me like we have some fine looking ladies on the Q-List! :-) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every single day I wear a dress or skirt and make-up. I don't even own a pair of blue jeans [because I don't wear pants] but I do have a denim (sp) skirt. OH, and I also try and wear a smile too. Bobbie
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Ha Ha. You misunderstood me. I meant I would straighten up their clothing not their person. Jim
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haha yes i did theni try to be nice and neat otherwise.cute[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha Ha. You misunderstood me. I meant I would straighten up their clothing not their person. Jim
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Plus, not sitting straight can cause real problems on your butt. And sitting on wrinkles or having your pants bunched in your crotch is not good. I always recline after I get up to get everything straightened out. You have to protect yourself from sores. 1 bad sore and you could be in bed for months. You are responsible for protecting yourself.. Speak-up and loudly. Greg Yea HoustonI make sure my clothes are straight and tell my aids to dress me accordingly. Personalappearance isyour first contact with everyone around you and nobody wants to talk to a slob. I also make sure I'm sitting right in my chair and can't stand to look crooked, I know my aids get annoyed sometimes because I'll do it all twice if I think I need it to look presentable.
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In a message dated 1/12/2005 6:47:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark thats another point I guess some arent able to tell their aides about what they want to wear. But its because they choose not to thats their right to wear what they want. I pick my clothes out beforeI go to bed. Hubby has a saying, "You didn't pick anything last night, I get to dress you funny" I've learned:-) Diane
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wow, i'd be an easy target as i'm crooked most timewhen hips hurt i get off them.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can honestly say that I have not been that close to another person in a wheelchair that smells but I do know I make sure I don't smell. There have been people in wheelchairs that I've seen that I wish I could get out of my chair and straighten them up.
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I think this would be a good time to say that IMHO it sounds to me like we have some fine looking ladies on the Q-List! :-) With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every single day I wear a dress or skirt and make-up. I don't even own a pair of blue jeans [because I don't wear pants] but I do have a denim (sp) skirt. OH, and I also try and wear a smile too. Bobbie
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Even if I stay home all day (which is almost daily) and see only hubby my dog (anda few people if I go for a walk around the neighborhood (still do here in 60-70 deg week here in Tucson) no matter what I wear clothesthat are nice, jewelry make-up. It's a routine I've gotten into as far asI can remember. Oh have aide curl my hair! I don't even wear sweatshirts as they make me feel slobby or less feminine. I too see quad pics on the net who know they'll be in a photo and still look like they haven't even brushed their hair! (girls). With sloppy clothes. Not judging ... I just "feel better" when I do the whole ball of wax day in day out. Lori ---Original Message--- From: Houston809 Date: 01/12/05 15:16:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadlist; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just dont care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I dont want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesnt want to see it. I understand if theres no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didnt have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if its a new fashion statement.On 1/11/05 3:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave,I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I cannot do from experience. When I first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed was all about. It seemed like just about every time I blew off my commonsense and my spider sense I ended up in trouble. Now, I respect that I am paralyzed and can only do so much so I better pay attention to my senses otherwise am going to be in trouble especially in the wintertime.I know that I am not looked at as a sexual object because of the way I look in a wheelchair. Even though I lost a lot of weight since my injury I still have a large quad gut, which makes me look somewhat obese and unattractive. Even if you are in a wheelchair you still have to take care of yourself to make yourself look attractive to the opposite sex.Jim
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I feel the same way as you, especially about the urine bags. I have a bed bag which hangs on my chair, but I had someone designed a cover to go over it and a cover for the tubing (which I usually cut down). Most people do not even know that I have a bed bag on my chair and when I go to the hospital, where they should know I'm wearing some sort of bag, they hardly ever realize that I am wearing a bed bag on my chair.Billy from TampaC2-39 years postHouston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just dont care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I dont want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesnt want to see it. I understand if theres no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didnt have 2 C your piss well why n! ot. They go around as if its a new fashion statement.On 1/11/05 3:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave,I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I cannot do from experience. When I first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed was all about. It seemed like just about every time I blew off my commonsense and my spider sense I ended up in trouble. Now, I respect that I am paralyzed and can only do so much so I better pay attention to my senses otherwise am going to be in trouble especially in the wintertime.I know that I am not looked at as a sexual object because of the way I look in a wheelchair. Even though I lost a lot of weight since my injury I still have a large quad gut, which makes me look somewhat obese and unattractive. Even if you are in a wheelchair you still have to take care of yourself to make yourself look attractive to the opposite sex.Jim Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more.
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Yea HoustonI make sure my clothes are straight and tell my aids to dress me accordingly. Personalappearance isyour first contact with everyone around you and nobody wants to talk to a slob. I also make sure I'm sitting right in my chair and can't stand to look crooked, I know my aids get annoyed sometimes because I'll do it all twice if I think I need it to look presentable. Some quads aren't as vocal or as lucky as some of us and it bugs me to see them looking like a 2 year old dressed them but their situation might not be as good as should be so I try to tell them to be more vocal about their care but some just can't help it. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Houston809 Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:14:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadlist; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just dont care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I dont want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesnt want to see it. I understand if theres no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didnt have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if its a new fashion statement.On 1/11/05 3:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dave,I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I cannot do from experience. When I first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed was all about. It seemed like just about every time I blew off my commonsense and my spider sense I ended up in trouble. Now, I respect that I am paralyzed and can only do so much so I better pay attention to my senses otherwise am going to be in trouble especially in the wintertime.I know that I am not looked at as a sexual object because of the way I look in a wheelchair. Even though I lost a lot of weight since my injury I still have a large quad gut, which makes me look somewhat obese and unattractive. Even if you are in a wheelchair you still have to take care of yourself to make yourself look attractive to the opposite sex.Jim
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Thats my point even if I dont plan on seeing anyone Ill have my aid brush my hair if isnt braided. I put on clean clothes that color coordinate, I guess it goes back to being a kid mom said put on clean drawers because you never know when someone will see them On 1/12/05 6:03 PM, Lori Michaelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if I stay home all day (which is almost daily) and see only hubby my dog (and a few people if I go for a walk around the neighborhood (still do here in 60-70 deg week here in Tucson) no matter what I wear clothes that are nice, jewelry make-up. It's a routine I've gotten into as far as I can remember. Oh have aide curl my hair! I don't even wear sweatshirts as they make me feel slobby or less feminine. I too see quad pics on the net who know they'll be in a photo and still look like they haven't even brushed their hair! (girls). With sloppy clothes. Not judging ... I just feel better when I do the whole ball of wax day in day out. Lori ---Original Message--- From: Houston809 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 01/12/05 15:16:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadlist mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just dont care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I dont want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesnt want to see it. I understand if theres no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didnt have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if its a new fashion statement. On 1/11/05 3:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I cannot do from experience. When I first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed was all about. It seemed like just about every time I blew off my commonsense and my spider sense I ended up in trouble. Now, I respect that I am paralyzed and can only do so much so I better pay attention to my senses otherwise am going to be in trouble especially in the wintertime. I know that I am not looked at as a sexual object because of the way I look in a wheelchair. Even though I lost a lot of weight since my injury I still have a large quad gut, which makes me look somewhat obese and unattractive. Even if you are in a wheelchair you still have to take care of yourself to make yourself look attractive to the opposite sex. Jim
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Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Mark thats another point I guess some arent able to tell their aides about what they want to wear. But its because they choose not to thats their right to wear what they want. Theres also the issue of smell if theres a problem medically thats different but 2 not have your aid wash you up put on deodorant maybe some lotion so that you dont look like a crocodile (maybe thats a blk thing :) ) but when Im around someone in a chair and their odor is offensive 2 me then weeks l8r they still smell maybe eve worse. On 1/12/05 6:11 PM, QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea Houston I make sure my clothes are straight and tell my aids to dress me accordingly. Personal appearance is your first contact with everyone around you and nobody wants to talk to a slob. I also make sure I'm sitting right in my chair and can't stand to look crooked, I know my aids get annoyed sometimes because I'll do it all twice if I think I need it to look presentable. Some quads aren't as vocal or as lucky as some of us and it bugs me to see them looking like a 2 year old dressed them but their situation might not be as good as should be so I try to tell them to be more vocal about their care but some just can't help it. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Houston809 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:14:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadlist mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just dont care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I dont want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesnt want to see it. I understand if theres no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didnt have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if its a new fashion statement. On 1/11/05 3:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I cannot do from experience. When I first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed was all about. It seemed like just about every time I blew off my commonsense and my spider sense I ended up in trouble. Now, I respect that I am paralyzed and can only do so much so I better pay attention to my senses otherwise am going to be in trouble especially in the wintertime. I know that I am not looked at as a sexual object because of the way I look in a wheelchair. Even though I lost a lot of weight since my injury I still have a large quad gut, which makes me look somewhat obese and unattractive. Even if you are in a wheelchair you still have to take care of yourself to make yourself look attractive to the opposite sex. Jim http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=54475
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I do at least that much,. The pants must be straight and inseams pulled down, not only for wrin kle comfort, but to make sure my pants are not high water. My shirts must be straight, arms straight, pulled down good in the back and front. Plus things match. Dana and ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Yea Houston I make sure my clothes are straight and tell my aids to dress me accordingly. Personal appearance is your first contact with everyone around you and nobody wants to talk to a slob. I also make sure I'm sitting right in my chair and can't stand to look crooked, I know my aids get annoyed sometimes because I'll do it all twice if I think I need it to look presentable. Some quads aren't as vocal or as lucky as some of us and it bugs me to see them looking like a 2 year old dressed them but their situation might not be as good as should be so I try to tell them to be more vocal about their care but some just can't help it. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Houston809 Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:14:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; quadlist; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just don't care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because I'm disabled doesn't mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I don't want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesn't want to see it. I understand if there's no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didn't have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if it's a new fashion statement. On 1/11/05 3:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I cannot do from experience. When I first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed was all about. It seemed like just about every time I blew off my commonsense and my spider sense I ended up in trouble. Now, I respect that I am paralyzed and can only do so much so I better pay attention to my senses otherwise am going to be in trouble especially in the wintertime. I know that I am not looked at as a sexual object because of the way I look in a wheelchair. Even though I lost a lot of weight since my injury I still have a large quad gut, which makes me look somewhat obese and unattractive. Even if you are in a wheelchair you still have to take care of yourself to make yourself look attractive to the opposite sex. Jim
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Every single day I wear a dress or skirt and make-up. I don't even own a pair of blue jeans [because I don't wear pants] but I do have a denim (sp) skirt. OH, and I also try and wear a smile too. Bobbie
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The aides got so frustrated with me when I was in the hospital for the same reason. They would pull out clothes for me to wear and I spoke up when something didn't go well together. One wanted to put me in a pajamas pant set. I refused to wear that and it turned into an argument. I would get visitors and it's not like they were scheduled. I definitely directed my care when I was in the hospital. I would have them pull my hair up because it was so long and they would just do it however not caring if strands were sticking out. I said something to an aide that put a pony tail way on top of my head to where my hair was falling in my face. Her reply was 'who's doing this?' My reply was 'who's head and hair is it?'. No some of them didn't like me at all. I was so determined to get my arms back just so I could do it myself and not have to hear the crap. Stacy - Original Message - From: QuadPirate To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Yea HoustonI make sure my clothes are straight and tell my aids to dress me accordingly. Personalappearance isyour first contact with everyone around you and nobody wants to talk to a slob. I also make sure I'm sitting right in my chair and can't stand to look crooked, I know my aids get annoyed sometimes because I'll do it all twice if I think I need it to look presentable. Some quads aren't as vocal or as lucky as some of us and it bugs me to see them looking like a 2 year old dressed them but their situation might not be as good as should be so I try to tell them to be more vocal about their care but some just can't help it. Mark ---Original Message--- From: Houston809 Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:14:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadlist; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [QUAD-L] Sci appearances Jim you are correct about taking care yourself to look attractive. I see a lot of my neighbors there are wheelchairs looking like they just dont care about their appearance any more. And I fill that them looking and dressing as they do it has an effect of the way others look towards me and everyone else in wheelchairs. Just because Im disabled doesnt mean that I have to look as if I and homeless and a bum. Just as several of my neighbors will go up to the grocery store with their overnight bed bag hanging on the outset of their chairs. Which looks a mess it reflects upon the others in our community that are in chairs. I dont want to see it and I know that the average AB truly doesnt want to see it. I understand if theres no other way but if you could put it in a bag so that everyone didnt have 2 C your piss well why not. They go around as if its a new fashion statement.On 1/11/05 3:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Dave,I know that I'm paralyzed and I accept the fact that I am. I know what I can do and I know what I cannot do from experience. When I first got injured I figured I could still do just about everything I did before but I learned quickly how vulnerable I was and what being paralyzed was all about. It seemed like just about every time I blew off my commonsense and my spider sense I ended up in trouble. Now, I respect that I am paralyzed and can only do so much so I better pay attention to my senses otherwise am going to be in trouble especially in the wintertime.I know that I am not looked at as a sexual object because of the way I look in a wheelchair. Even though I lost a lot of weight since my injury I still have a large quad gut, which makes me look somewhat obese and unattractive. Even if you are in a wheelchair you still have to take care of yourself to make yourself look attractive to the opposite sex.Jim
