Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine/gearbox clearance - Saloon MK2

[Darren Siepka]

The diesel cradle mounts are much sronger as old Q says. You don't need the
metal "cups" on them that the STD type had fitted.

With the pulley end mount there are three H/D option I know of .
1. Polyurethane solid ( not very nice for road as they transmit lots of nvh)
2. Fill the voids in the original mount with liquid polyurethane. Choose a
softish grade .( This doesn't transmit so much nvh as a solid mount but
does stiffen up loads)
3. Cut and stuff rubber strips into the voids.( This I did for my automatic
saloon as gaps are Uber thin on that. I used thick rubber matting cut into
suitable sized strips pushed into the gaps. It stiffened the movement to
almost nothing .I didn't notice any real change in nvh)

You can also get solid poly cradle mounts but again not really a road car
solution.

You can install a trigger wheel on the inside of the belt pulley or you can
attach it to the camshaft pulley. I have heard of both types of setup being
used by users on the speeduino ecu group . Another option is to mount the
trigger wheel in place of the distributor .

Darren

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023, 09:00 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, <
lists...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:

> Levering engine across worked to some extent but still not as much
> clearance as I wanted at pulley end. I would rather have it close at
> gearbox end - one reason being I was hoping to fit a timing ring to crank
> pulley so I could play with efi at some point (although block is an efi
> block flywheel is not an efi one).
>
> With engine levered across I could just remove alternator belt. Belt was
> 11.9mm * 675 cogged. It looks rather wide on pulley so I have ordered a
> 10mm wide belt which is width vast majority of suppliers specify for XR2. I
> checked the V profile of crank and alternator pulleys and an RS one and
> they are same.The pulley with unequal flanges has a smaller working
> diameter so maybe it was used in configurations where belt fitting was
> particularly tight.
>
> Anyway I decided to remove all engine mounts and check them because I
> could see the engine top mount insulator rubber was getting well distorted
> when engine was levered across. The gearbox cradle front rubber mount was
> really out of shape- it had sheared to a nice parallelogram shape
> despite being inside the standard metal cup. The rear mount looked fine.
> Both cradle rubbers seem to be a standard Ford Fiesta part 89FB6038FA. In
> saloon build manual it says that diesel rubber Ford part 1661786 is
> recommended for engine power 120hp and above so these maybe a better
> option. Anyone know if these fit in Fiesta metal cups? - on the Ford refs I
> checked it looks like these rubbers were used on other diesel models but
> not Fiesta diesel? Also what is the function of the J shaped plate fitted
> over rear cradle mount? (this is an XR2 cradle).
>
> I think the lower mounts take most of the load but when they start giving
> way the top mount is loaded up more than it should be. The rubber in my top
> insulator mount is not torn but pretty soft. As it's now out I thought may
> as well replace but AFAIK new insulators are no longer available. There is
> probably somewhere that can rebush these but I haven't come across them
> yet. I know SB Parts do exchange XR2 units but the Quantum ones have been
> modded from standard so probably not good for exchange. New upgraded mounts
> are available (SB, Vibra .) - just need to mod the bottom leg as per QSC. I
> noticed looking at Ford parts diagram the Fiesta Mk2 diesel insulator looks
> like a sturdier design (M12 thru bolt rather than M10 studs bonded on sides
> of rubber) - anyone tried one?
>
> John
> On Tuesday, 24 October 2023 at 10:45:59 UTC+1 Darren Siepka wrote:
>
>> The sigma were used in focus and fiesta until fairly recently, available
>> on 1.25, 1.4 ,1.6 and 1.7 (only in the puma)
>> Iirc when they appeared in the pumas they were called the zetec se , the
>> Yamaha designed engines.
>> They aren't the best(can't rebuild the bottom end as there are no pins in
>> the bearing caps) , but they are available .
>> The 1.5 and 1.6 ecoboost blocks are actually almost identical, only
>> having direct injection heads instead of the port injection.
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2023, 10:37 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, good point, the Mk1 was only 4 speed.
>>> I did a 5 speed conversion on a Mk1 Fiesta before there were kits
>>> available.
>>> It only needed a small modification to the side of the engine bay to
>>> clear the 5th gear end of the gearbox.
>>> But, the bigger issue was that the Mk1 Fiesta tie bar on the suspension
>>> went straight under the 5th gear housing on the gearbox.
>>> I ended up buying a very expensive Ford Motor

Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts

[Darren Siepka]

On the escort MK3 rs1600i they used adjustable tie bars in place of the
anti roll bar to permit castor adjustment, with the roll bar attached back
to those tie bars with clamps.
As our tie bars are all wiggly(highly technical term there :-) ) they might
be tricky to modify but some custom ones may be possible if you could just
shim as Jim suggests.

Darren

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, 11:35 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> If you want to adjust the caster could you not put spacing washers between
> the anti roll bar / tie bar and the bush in the track control arm ?
> You’d only be able to move the axle to the rear doing that so maybe the
> wrong way.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Mick L
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2023 9:27 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top
> mounts
>
> Yeah it seems to in the mount rubber work as you can hear the squelsh on
> grease I used.
>
> --
> *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Jim Hearne 
> *Sent:* 04 August 2023 20:24
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top
> mounts
>
> I don't think there should be any play on the Mk1 setup.
> Where is the the play ?, between the shock shaft and the bush in the top
> mount or lower down ?
>
> I know some modern cars do have a lot of play in the top mount when the
> car is jacked up, like my Wife's Corsa, but it's by design.
>
> Jim
>
> On 04/08/2023 21:17, Mick L wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Yeah ours has the nylon spacers on the top of the mounts already.
>
> --
> *From:* Jim Hearne mailto:j...@quantums.info
> *Sent:* 04 August 2023 19:59
> *To:* Mick L mailto:lawson.m...@hotmail.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top
> mounts
>
> The build manual for the saloon says fit an extra spacer in the Mk2 top
> mount, i guess that would apply to the Mk1 top mount as well.
> Needs somebody with an early saloon build manual where the donor was the
> Mk1 Fiesta.
> Pretty sure the toe is parallel.
> I have camber adjusting bolts on my 2+2, i will see if i can find the
> settings i ended up with.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 04/08/2023 20:48, Mick L wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a irritating
> area to tackle.
>
> First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when
> jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still
> do this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard
> yet as I simply don't think it's ready.
>
> Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor
> and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a
> re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up.
>
> It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not
> meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to
> get it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as
> on the fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as
> designed.
>
> Cheers
> Mick
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts

[Darren Siepka]

Sorry to double post again,
But these people offer a cheaper bearing adjustable top to the procomp ones.
https://www.daperformanceengineering.co.uk/products/mk1-fiesta-adjustable-top-mounts

Whichever ones you went for(if that's the route you go)you need to verify
they will fit up inside our shock tower due to the material thickness being
greater than a metal tower would be

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, 10:52 Darren Siepka,  wrote:

> No unfortunately you can't convert the early style two bolt tops on the
> saloon body to the doughnut MK2 type.
> I have seen those bearing top mounts but remember they will transfer a lot
> more nvh into the body shell , not to mention impact stresses.
> I think the Micra mounts are the way to go if you can't get or don't fancy
> paying for the ford type tops.
>
> Darren
>
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, 09:31 Mick L,  wrote:
>
>> Sounds like despite the refurb the mounts are toast.
>>
>> The strut tops were specifically designed for each mount style weren't
>> they so I can't convert to mk2 tops mounts? Mine been a early mk2 makes me
>> unsure if it would work as a solution.
>>
>> The other option is I just fit some uprated top mounts and accept I'll
>> only have castor on them as I've found some solid alloy ones for £100 over
>> pro comps £150 for fixed or £180 for adjustable that may not fit
>>
>> --
>> *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>> on behalf of Darren Siepka 
>> *Sent:* 04 August 2023 22:39
>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top
>> mounts
>>
>> The rubber section of the  MK1 top mounts slowly spread and you get play
>> where the cup sits.
>> I originally remade some oversize cups to take up the slack the steel
>> ones had, but it didn't last long as the rubber just isn't compliant due to
>> age so just stretched more .
>> You can't get ford top mounts anymore BUT Nissan Micra mounts can be used
>> and are cheaply sourced, so a good mod.
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 20:48 Mick L,  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a
>> irritating area to tackle.
>>
>> First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when
>> jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still
>> do this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard
>> yet as I simply don't think it's ready.
>>
>> Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor
>> and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a
>> re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up.
>>
>>  It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not
>> meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to
>> get it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as
>> on the fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as
>> designed.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mick
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts

[Darren Siepka]

No unfortunately you can't convert the early style two bolt tops on the
saloon body to the doughnut MK2 type.
I have seen those bearing top mounts but remember they will transfer a lot
more nvh into the body shell , not to mention impact stresses.
I think the Micra mounts are the way to go if you can't get or don't fancy
paying for the ford type tops.

Darren

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023, 09:31 Mick L,  wrote:

> Sounds like despite the refurb the mounts are toast.
>
> The strut tops were specifically designed for each mount style weren't
> they so I can't convert to mk2 tops mounts? Mine been a early mk2 makes me
> unsure if it would work as a solution.
>
> The other option is I just fit some uprated top mounts and accept I'll
> only have castor on them as I've found some solid alloy ones for £100 over
> pro comps £150 for fixed or £180 for adjustable that may not fit
>
> --
> *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Darren Siepka 
> *Sent:* 04 August 2023 22:39
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top
> mounts
>
> The rubber section of the  MK1 top mounts slowly spread and you get play
> where the cup sits.
> I originally remade some oversize cups to take up the slack the steel ones
> had, but it didn't last long as the rubber just isn't compliant due to age
> so just stretched more .
> You can't get ford top mounts anymore BUT Nissan Micra mounts can be used
> and are cheaply sourced, so a good mod.
>
> Darren
>
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 20:48 Mick L,  wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a irritating
> area to tackle.
>
> First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when
> jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still
> do this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard
> yet as I simply don't think it's ready.
>
> Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor
> and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a
> re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up.
>
>  It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not
> meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to
> get it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as
> on the fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as
> designed.
>
> Cheers
> Mick
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts

[Darren Siepka]

By the way the Micra parts are for the MK2 year.
Or if you really want original type outlaw have remade then.
https://www.outlawmotorsport.co.uk/product-page/mk1-fiesta-suspension-top-mounts


On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 23:39 Darren Siepka,  wrote:

> The rubber section of the  MK1 top mounts slowly spread and you get play
> where the cup sits.
> I originally remade some oversize cups to take up the slack the steel ones
> had, but it didn't last long as the rubber just isn't compliant due to age
> so just stretched more .
> You can't get ford top mounts anymore BUT Nissan Micra mounts can be used
> and are cheaply sourced, so a good mod.
>
> Darren
>
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 20:48 Mick L,  wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a
>> irritating area to tackle.
>>
>> First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when
>> jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still
>> do this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard
>> yet as I simply don't think it's ready.
>>
>> Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor
>> and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a
>> re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up.
>>
>>  It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not
>> meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to
>> get it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as
>> on the fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as
>> designed.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mick
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Castor and camber on a saloon and top mounts

[Darren Siepka]

The rubber section of the  MK1 top mounts slowly spread and you get play
where the cup sits.
I originally remade some oversize cups to take up the slack the steel ones
had, but it didn't last long as the rubber just isn't compliant due to age
so just stretched more .
You can't get ford top mounts anymore BUT Nissan Micra mounts can be used
and are cheaply sourced, so a good mod.

Darren

On Fri, 4 Aug 2023, 20:48 Mick L,  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> The saloon is slowly coming along but the suspension has been a irritating
> area to tackle.
>
> First and foremost are mk1 top mounts supposed to have play in them when
> jacked up? I have refurbed both ours and fitted new bearings and they still
> do this and the car doesn't have a vague feel. I've never driven it hard
> yet as I simply don't think it's ready.
>
> Secondly does anyone have any information as regards recommended castor
> and camber/ toe in and out. Having now fitted camber bolts and having a
> re-tinker this afternoon after a rather dodgy first geometry set up.
>
>  It now seems to drive a hell of alot better. But if the mounts are not
> meant to have play in them I'm guessing it's my final suspension hurdle to
> get it nice and tight. Unfortunately the mounts are not mounted the same as
> on the fiesta so your adjustable mounts will do castor not camber as
> designed.
>
> Cheers
> Mick
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Radiator Hoses - Saloon with rad in nose

[Darren Siepka]

When I relocated my rad to the nosecone I simply extended the original
hoses with some suitably sized pipe and jubilee clips!
With the new engine install I have been using universal silicone sections
and stainless pipe between. Not the cheapest option ( so probably best to
wait for your new engine as well)but should last for a long time.

Darren


On Sun, 30 Jul 2023, 21:53 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, <
lists...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:

> I will probably switch to silicone hoses throughout when engine is changed.
> For now I am looking for rubber hoses as backups.
> Th old hoses look like OEM but the markings are too faded to read so
> trying to find out what vehicle they are for.
> John
>
>
> On Saturday, 29 July 2023 at 13:52:54 UTC+1 Ken Needham wrote:
>
>> Hi quality silicone hoses are available from
>> *www.viperperformance.co.uk*
>> 
>> .
>> They make hoses that enable one to make up any link between units.
>> regards
>> ken
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 19:19, list...@liberator-systems.co.uk <
>> list...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone happen to know the source(s) for top & bottom rad hoses? Standard
>>> Fiesta ones are obviously not long enough with rad in nosecone. The bottom
>>> hose is the type with T juntion  feed from heater return.
>>> John
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Headlamp upgrades

[Darren Siepka]

Yes hid and led MUST have either levelling or leveling suspension and
washers.
But conversion of a halogen light unit is not allowed at bulb level.
If say you have a light unit with non Fresnel patterned lenses and a
complete projector type unit inside , changing that unit if done with
correct pattern units is permitted.

It is the Fresnel on the lense and the reflector shape that screws up both
hid and led conversion , the beam being disrupted.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2023, 20:36 Mick L,  wrote:

> As far as I'm aware they allow hid etc if they have washers and self
> levelling? Correct my if I am wrong?
> --
> *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Darren Siepka 
> *Sent:* 22 July 2023 18:38
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Headlamp upgrades
>
> Yes my 2+2 head lights ( and flaps) have gone !
> I have created a mount with the new 90mm Hella unit and a small indicator(
> also modular Hella but about 40mm dia) .
> The 90mm unit is a bi-xenon , it has a single bulb with a flap to create
> the dip cutoff pattern needed for mot.
> Two additional items are also needed for xenon ( not sure about led), that
> is headlamp washers and self levelling.
> Hella sell universal kits to go with the 90mm products , but the washers
> are easily and more cheaply done with a universal windscreen wash kit.
>
> Levelling is a little more tricky, the Hella kit uses ultrasonics , I am
> using OEM lever arm sensors(BMW mini). I am making up a small driver module
> that will read the inputs and adjust the std OEM headlight motors . I will
> publish the build details including firmware as open source as I do all my
> work on GitHub.
> My friendly MOT man is going to let me use the beam aligner out of hours
> to set it up and confirm all is well before the actual MOT test. But I need
> to finish getting the car back on road before I can do that.
>
> Darren
>
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2023, 17:51 mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I’ve been doing some reading on the rules about headlights as for a long
> time I’ve wanted to improve my 2+2’s headlights, which seem particularly
> underwhelming after using my modern car.
>
> There’s a lot of conflicting guidance online, which seems to stem from
> some changes to the MOT rules. So I started there, with the relevant part
> seeming to be section 4.1.4:
> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/
>
>
>
> If I’ve understood it correctly, replacing your halogen bulbs with HID or
> LED equivalents is forbidden for any car used after 1st April 1986, and
> will lead to an automatic failure (‘light source and lamp not
> compatible’).  But the part that’s of interest to me, the amended rule,
> seems to state that there is NOT an automatic failure if you have replaced
> the **entire** headlamp unit with an LED or HID alternative. I’m
> presuming that they would need to be CE/UK CA marked, or given an E number
> but, again, that aspect seems to generate conflicting answers – and
> imported Japan-only or USA-only models seem to be able to pass MOTs just
> fine without those markings from what I’ve read.
>
>
>
> There seem to be loads of possible replacement headlight units out there
> so I was wondering firstly if I’ve understood all of this correctly (anyone
> know a tame MOT tester?) and secondly if any of you have replaced your Q’s
> entire original halogen units with an LED or HID alternative. I’d be
> fascinated to hear what you picked and how it played out.
>
>
>
> Hope you’re all having a great weekend.
>
>
>
> Matthew
>
> Q2-275
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Headlamp upgrades

[Darren Siepka]

Yes my 2+2 head lights ( and flaps) have gone !
I have created a mount with the new 90mm Hella unit and a small indicator(
also modular Hella but about 40mm dia) .
The 90mm unit is a bi-xenon , it has a single bulb with a flap to create
the dip cutoff pattern needed for mot.
Two additional items are also needed for xenon ( not sure about led), that
is headlamp washers and self levelling.
Hella sell universal kits to go with the 90mm products , but the washers
are easily and more cheaply done with a universal windscreen wash kit.

Levelling is a little more tricky, the Hella kit uses ultrasonics , I am
using OEM lever arm sensors(BMW mini). I am making up a small driver module
that will read the inputs and adjust the std OEM headlight motors . I will
publish the build details including firmware as open source as I do all my
work on GitHub.
My friendly MOT man is going to let me use the beam aligner out of hours to
set it up and confirm all is well before the actual MOT test. But I need to
finish getting the car back on road before I can do that.

Darren

On Sat, 22 Jul 2023, 17:51 mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I’ve been doing some reading on the rules about headlights as for a long
> time I’ve wanted to improve my 2+2’s headlights, which seem particularly
> underwhelming after using my modern car.
>
> There’s a lot of conflicting guidance online, which seems to stem from
> some changes to the MOT rules. So I started there, with the relevant part
> seeming to be section 4.1.4:
> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/
>
>
>
> If I’ve understood it correctly, replacing your halogen bulbs with HID or
> LED equivalents is forbidden for any car used after 1st April 1986, and
> will lead to an automatic failure (‘light source and lamp not
> compatible’).  But the part that’s of interest to me, the amended rule,
> seems to state that there is NOT an automatic failure if you have replaced
> the **entire** headlamp unit with an LED or HID alternative. I’m
> presuming that they would need to be CE/UK CA marked, or given an E number
> but, again, that aspect seems to generate conflicting answers – and
> imported Japan-only or USA-only models seem to be able to pass MOTs just
> fine without those markings from what I’ve read.
>
>
>
> There seem to be loads of possible replacement headlight units out there
> so I was wondering firstly if I’ve understood all of this correctly (anyone
> know a tame MOT tester?) and secondly if any of you have replaced your Q’s
> entire original halogen units with an LED or HID alternative. I’d be
> fascinated to hear what you picked and how it played out.
>
>
>
> Hope you’re all having a great weekend.
>
>
>
> Matthew
>
> Q2-275
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Heater Matrix (Fiesta Mk2)

[Darren Siepka]

I know what you mean about the jumbling of conversation on discord, it is
very good for developer conversation but for proper record the traditional
forum can't be beat.

I will try and get some pictures of the mini matrix along with the MK3 and
MK2 heater boxes and post up.

Darren

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023, 09:09 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> Thank you for clarifying that Matthew.
> I’m obviously asynchronous messaging person.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Matthew Wastell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2023 12:36 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Heater Matrix (Fiesta Mk2)
>
> Discord is very much like many real time chatting tools from old IRC to
> modern Slack and even Microsoft teams.
>
> Many people don’t thread their topics so you just get everyone talking at
> once, replies mistaken for a different topic and so on.
>
> Discord and chat platforms in general are really throw away messaging
> platforms, designed for comments in the moment and what is going on that
> second.  Like having a conversation in real life really.  If people reply
> to something from half an hour ago it doesn’t make sense. I’m sure we’ve
> all had experience of a deep thinker who after being asked something
> replies half an hour later.  Unless they say “in reply to your question
> about….” It doesn’t make sense.
>
> Unless you are forced to thread, (or even given the opportunity to do so
> easily) it will always be a mess and confuse those who are thinking it’s an
> asynchronous platform.
>
> I think this is why we see a general age or tech-ability split between
> synchronous and asynchronous messaging platforms.
>
> M
>
>
>
> On 19 Jul 2023, at 11:20, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
> 
> Funny you say that, i joined a Discord group for old computers and just
> couldn’t make head or tail of it.
> All the messages just seemed to be in time order with all subjects mixed
> up, i couldn’t work out any way to follow threads or keep track of what i
> had replied to.
> Maybe it was just me but i left after a few days.
>
> I will have a look at the Mini matrixs.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2023 10:54 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Heater Matrix (Fiesta Mk2)
>
> I also agree how horrid FB is( I only have an account to use messenger!)
> The ECU group (speeduino ) I contribute to have moved to discord after a
> short trial of slack.
> This is much nicer for conversation than FB.
>
> Back to the subject.
>
> I also looked for a replacement and was staggered at the quality and the
> cost of a replacement.
> So looking elsewhere I found BMW mini matrixes! They are all ally and are
> a very close fit. The pipes plug in(also alloy) and could be made to use
> the original body holes if desired ( I am not) .they also are super
> cheap,even new!
> I am using one of these along with the matching PTC element in my MK3 box
> on my updated 2+2 build.
> The MK2 matrix is similar .
>
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023, 09:34 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the picture, I will have one more go at getting the alloy
>> one to fit and if not i will get one of those.
>> In my case the matrix failed while the car was unused for over 5 years.
>> Despite being filled with new orange antifreeze it managed to corrode
>> though the matrix and empty the entire cooling system into the footwells.
>> Luckily there was no carpet fitted.
>> I have also drilled a hole in the lowest part of the lower cover, as you
>> say, you can see the first trace of a leak then instead of waiting until
>> the whole lower cover has filled with water.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* list...@liberator-systems.co.uk
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:41 PM
>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Heater Matrix (Fiesta Mk2)
>>
>> I agree the alloy matrices give out a toasty heat -  I am hoping even if
>> get less heat output  I get better reliability. Time will tell.
>> When I get some spare time I may test/dissect the failed alloy ones to
>> see if there is a common fail point. One theory I had on fails was they
>> could be the weakest part of an overheated pressurised cooling system and
>> do not handle overheating very well (had plenty of those). I guess they are
>> pressure/leak tested on manufacture but maybe they don't handle cycles of
>> overheating very well.
>> I forgot to post pic earlier of metal matrix snug fit in box. I have now
>> drilled a few small holes in lowest part of heater box so any dribble from
>> these will hopefully give a

Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 saloon needing new home

[Darren Siepka]

Where abouts are you located?
Any idea what sort of figure you might be after?

Darren

On Mon, 17 Jul 2023, 16:41 Ken Needham,  wrote:

> I have a Red 2+2 saloon That really needs a new home and TLC.
> I was using the car as daily transport up to when Covid hit.
> Coincident with retirement I put the car on SORN as there is something
> needing attention on the clutch.
> It has an XR3i engine fitted with standard Ford injection ECU, 5 speed box
> and 14 inch Escort wheels with very good Uniroyal rain tyres all round.
> The car is not pretty and has a high mileage.
> Covid got me early on and after effects are still with me so I can't see
> me able to revive the car in the near future.
> I have many spares, original worn CVH engine, Refurbished gearbox
> internals plus a complete gearbox, many light lens and new rear axel
> support arms. Set of 5 13" wheels
>
> Is this something someone may be interested in?
>
> Best regards
> Ken Needham
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Re: [Quantum Owners] ULEZ compliant?

[Darren Siepka]

No luck with my saloon , it's on a B plate (reg85 ?) I wonder if it's due
to it being pre sva/iva?
My 2+2 won't check as it says it's sorned, but that would be free as it is
over 40 and tax exempt.

Darren

On Wed, 3 May 2023, 10:49 susanandmartin, <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> Planning a trip to London in a modern tin box, we checked to see if the
> car is ULEZ compliant (no real surprise that it is)…. Just being curious I
> entered the Quantum registration number to find it was also compliant! This
> is a huge surprise, as it is a 1987 donor with a CVH engine and E-prefix
> registration number (albeit V5 says ‘first registered 2009’ when it was
> SVA’d). It would be interesting to find if other Quantums get the same
> result 
>
>
>
> Check your vehicle (tfl.gov.uk)
> 
>
> Martin Scott
>
>
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side

[Darren Siepka]

Tbh when the Q were designed 40 yrs ago the parts were plentiful new from
ford and they do last a very long time, even now OEM generally don't put
removable rubber into engine mounts.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2023, 08:31 Mick L,  wrote:

> Not what I wanted to hear. More time taking work for a car needed for work
> next week.
>
> Someone needs to change this design as the mounts are hard to come by and
> the idea of them needing such modification when so rare seems silly. I
> amazed it was so poorly designed that the rubber inserts where not
> removable once the mount was modded for longevity.
>
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> quantumowners@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* 23 April 2023 20:22
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side
>
>
> No the rubber parts do not remove normally. The top upper engine mount
> require a couple of modifications.
>
> It requires one of the tabs cutting off and a small extension welding onto
> the bottom of the mount so the lower mounting hole is moved onto the welded
> extension piece.
>
>
>
> The mounts were normally exchanged by QSC when the kit was bought but the
> change is not that big even if you need to pay someone to modify the mount
> for you.
>
> Best using your original as a template.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
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>
>
> *From: *Mick L 
> *Sent: *23 April 2023 20:29
> *To: *quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *[Quantum Owners] Engine mount Timing side
>
>
>
> The  mounts on this are all shot. I've got two new gearbox ends sorted but
> the main mount is modded compared to the xr2 according to Sb.
>
>
>
> Do the rubber Interbals come out of standard mounts to fit into the modded
> units?
>
>
>
> Thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Wheel and Tyre fitment 15 " 7 wheels and 14s... and Hello :)

[Darren Siepka]

The offset is a bit low ,iirc et20 was used on rwd fords(Capri etc) , but
as long as you check for rubbing lock to lock then you should be fine. The
reduction in profile to 55 does make a dramatic difference over the
60profile.
Regards ride, you mention lowering springs , if these are xr2 fiesta ones
then yes the ride will be shocking as they are far too hard.
Quantum used to sell custom made springs correctly rated to give the
correct height while maintaining a decent ride quality.

Darren

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023, 08:33 Mick L,  wrote:

> We do want a car that drives right not just looks right so it does sound
> like 14s may be what we have to stick with sadly then. The rides awful
> already but I'm guessing that's some cheap lowering springs as it has
> Monroe shocks.
>
> With our current tyres been 60 profile and too wide on the rear Is there a
> chance it should be absolutely fine clearance wise if I put the right tyres
> on these 14?
>
> They are lovely deep dish wheels so I would keep them in a heartbeat .
>
> Thanks
> Mick
>
> --
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> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Wheel and Tyre fitment 15 " 7 wheels and
> 14s... and Hello :)
>
> Depending on the make and design shape of the tyre you can sometimes get
> away with a 195/50 15 , but it is far better to use 195/45 15 ( I do on 2+2
> and saloon).
> The official recommendation from old quantum was to use 185/55 14 . They
> didn't recommend using 15s or bigger as they felt the ride quality was too
> poor .
> I will be honest that the ride is much harsher on the 45 15s than on 55
> 14s ( I started out on 14s)
>
> A bigger wheel will allow for larger disc fitment ( example ,I have 285 mm
> on the front , these only fit under 15s)
>
> Darren
>
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2023, 21:54 Mick L,  wrote:
>
> We have recently purchased a saloon and I planned to turn her around in a
> couple of weeks to use daily after been laid off.Myself and my partner have
> always wanted one. So hello everyone.
>
>  It's turned into a whole lot of work I was not expecting sadly and I'm
> already a week in and the engines out tomorrow so not any closer to
> prepping for paint :(
>
> Onwards and upwards :)
>
> One of the simpler issues is the wheels. She is currently fitted with 14s
> 6 wide Et20. 185 60 front and 195 rear I believe.
>
> They look lovely but do catch the rear arch around 4/5 and 7/8 o clock
> positions. My question is...Is this simply down the the rears been 195 or
> is it because the offset of these wheels is incorrect as they do come out
> the arch.
>
> I have the opportunity to buy a set of wheels that are 15" 7 wide and et35
> so ford offset I believe. Is there a universe where these wheels would fit
> without rubbing with 195 45 15s?
>
>  If so I would sell ours and get them instead.
>
> Thanks
> Mick and Giuliana
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Wheel and Tyre fitment 15 " 7 wheels and 14s... and Hello :)

[Darren Siepka]

Depending on the make and design shape of the tyre you can sometimes get
away with a 195/50 15 , but it is far better to use 195/45 15 ( I do on 2+2
and saloon).
The official recommendation from old quantum was to use 185/55 14 . They
didn't recommend using 15s or bigger as they felt the ride quality was too
poor .
I will be honest that the ride is much harsher on the 45 15s than on 55 14s
( I started out on 14s)

A bigger wheel will allow for larger disc fitment ( example ,I have 285 mm
on the front , these only fit under 15s)

Darren

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023, 21:54 Mick L,  wrote:

> We have recently purchased a saloon and I planned to turn her around in a
> couple of weeks to use daily after been laid off.Myself and my partner have
> always wanted one. So hello everyone.
>
>  It's turned into a whole lot of work I was not expecting sadly and I'm
> already a week in and the engines out tomorrow so not any closer to
> prepping for paint :(
>
> Onwards and upwards :)
>
> One of the simpler issues is the wheels. She is currently fitted with 14s
> 6 wide Et20. 185 60 front and 195 rear I believe.
>
> They look lovely but do catch the rear arch around 4/5 and 7/8 o clock
> positions. My question is...Is this simply down the the rears been 195 or
> is it because the offset of these wheels is incorrect as they do come out
> the arch.
>
> I have the opportunity to buy a set of wheels that are 15" 7 wide and et35
> so ford offset I believe. Is there a universe where these wheels would fit
> without rubbing with 195 45 15s?
>
>  If so I would sell ours and get them instead.
>
> Thanks
> Mick and Giuliana
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?

[Darren Siepka]

I mix a small amount of gel coat into the chopped strand type filler.
This makes a somewhat easier to sand filler but with proper fiberglass
strength.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, 17:15 flob...@gmail.com,  wrote:

> You were all absolutely correct, it was just filler in the gap. I dug some
> out and i can clearly see the chassis tube painted black with very little
> surface rust.
> Not sure about bridging the gap again with filler.
>
> On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 10:40:17 AM UTC flob...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Thanks for the encouraging replies. I did think it was at or near the
>> join and that might be the weak point to fail first. I didn't think about
>> filler and it does look it might be filler. I'll try cutting a small
>> section out asap.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 1:50:16 PM UTC Jim Hearne wrote:
>>
>>> As Steve has said, this is where there is a joint between the body and
>>> the floor mouldings.
>>> It is usually covered with a rubber moulding but on your car somebody
>>> has filled and painted it.
>>> The joint can be about 10mm wide, see the attached picture.
>>> The question is why is it cracked and bulging out like that.
>>> The steel sill tube on the chassis is behind there but it’s padded out
>>> with expanding foam.
>>>
>>> It could be rust on the steel tube or it could just be a large lump of
>>> filler not very well stuck to the fibreglass.
>>> Maybe water has got behind it and frozen pushing the water out.
>>>
>>> You are going to have to dig out that cracked lump of filler and see
>>> whats behind it.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* flob...@gmail.com
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 22, 2023 11:50 AM
>>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] H4 Chassis corrosion?
>>>
>>> https://ibb.co/ynK5ZKP
>>> https://ibb.co/nbsn9yv
>>> https://ibb.co/r736Rrq
>>>
>>> Recently I thought it was to time to do something with the H4. Charged
>>> the battery and it started first time after 18 months standing, quick check
>>> over, evicted mouse, cleaned discs and went for MOT. Failed on perished
>>> suspension arm rubber, changed arm MOT passed.
>>> Just needs a service and I can start using it; or so I thought until I
>>> noticed crack in fibreglass below drivers door. Now I believe the H4 is
>>> unsafe and will probably have to be written off. Am I right?
>>> Opinions/suggestions please.
>>> Links at top for pics.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 clutch issue

[Darren Siepka]

Tbh I would have got a new cover and plate .
There are plenty of options on the likes of eBay, including some luk
branded ones.

A bit like getting new discs and fitting new pads to match the wear , so
the flywheel . The old clutch disc will have worn to the old flywheel
surface wear pattern and likely isn't biting all over now.

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, 13:54 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> I've just had my 2+2 flywheel skimmed and the crank, flywheel and clutch
> cover plate balanced. Since then the clutch judders when pulling away. I
> kept the original part used clutch cover and friction plate because I
> couldn’t find a replacement.
>
> Any ideas if this will settle down with more use or I do I need to replace
> the clutch.
>
> If I need to replace the clutch do any of you know where I can get a
> replacement for the following?
>
> The friction plate is marked
>
> Motorcraft
> 90 AB 7550 CA
> LOW LIFT
> LUK
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Chris Fairlie
> Q2-001
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Wheels

[Darren Siepka]

As Derek says it's all down to personal choice, but with a stiffer
suspension setup you will notice the difference between a 15 and 14. I run
15's to fit over my big disc conversions so this is something you may need
to consider if thinking to downsize.
It is possible to fit 16s but I suspect the ride is very harsh ( a 195/40
r16 tyre is equivalent).
As Derek also mentioned the shape of the tyre can cause issues too. As an
example I have 195/50r15 Yoko's on my saloon rear , but they lockup on the
front! The cheaper(don't recall brand) 195/50r15 on the front have a
squarer carcass and turn fine! A 45 profile tyre is better really for 15s .

Darren

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022, 09:01 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> Sorry correction.  Some like the 15 inch wheels, not 14 inch!
>
> D
>
> On 16 Oct 2022, at 22:50, Derek Clews  wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> The originals were 13 inch wheels.  The data I have is:
>
> XR2 mk2
> 13 x 6
> 4X108 PCD. Bolt Thread M12x 1.5 mm
> Offset in 35-45mm range depending on your body requirements.
> Tyre 185 x 60.
>
> I have been running 14 inch wheels (14 J6) with 185 x 55 tyres on them for
> years.  The actual tyre wall is 101.75mm instead of the 13 inch 111 mm on
> my 13 inch wheel Coupe.
>
> There seems to be a range of choice that works.  Some say that deeper tyre
> walls are a better ride and soak up the potholes better but that also
> depends on your suspension and ride height.  Everything works together.
>
> Most wheels will accept a few different tyre widths but it is common to
> find 14 J6 and 14 J5.5. wheels.  Others love the 14 inch wheels and there
> are more of them to choose from.  I find the rubber band tyres don’t work
> for me.
>
> Remember this hobby is meant to be fun!
>
> Regards
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
>
> On 16 Oct 2022, at 22:28, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Yes they are std ford pcd 4x108
> I would have thought the rim width on a 195 tyre would be far more than a
> 5?
> 6-6.5 perhaps would be more suited.
> My last set of 2+2 wheels were used by the last owner on his KA and Mk5
> fiesta. They were aftermarket and don't have the et marked on them.
> On my first 2+2 I had Sierra 14" fitted with special sleeved bolts due to
> the hole size in the rims(quantum supplied bolts) the offset on those was
> pretty good too.
>
> Darren
>
>
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, 21:30 'Mark Alford' via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> 2+2 Wheels
>> Hello fellow Quantum Owners...
>>
>> I'm at a stage where I need to replace the tyres and wheels for my 2+2.
>> I'm not sure what wheel settings I need to use.
>>
>> Please can you help here for 15" and currently have 195/45 R15 Tyres.
>>
>> So far I believe its..
>> PCD 4 X 108
>> OFFSET 35 - 42?? ET40?
>> WIDTH 5J
>>
>> Many thanks in advance...
>>
>> If anyone has a good set of four second hand please let me know?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mark
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Wheels

[Darren Siepka]

Yes they are std ford pcd 4x108
I would have thought the rim width on a 195 tyre would be far more than a
5?
6-6.5 perhaps would be more suited.
My last set of 2+2 wheels were used by the last owner on his KA and Mk5
fiesta. They were aftermarket and don't have the et marked on them.
On my first 2+2 I had Sierra 14" fitted with special sleeved bolts due to
the hole size in the rims(quantum supplied bolts) the offset on those was
pretty good too.

Darren


On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, 21:30 'Mark Alford' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> 2+2 Wheels
> Hello fellow Quantum Owners...
>
> I'm at a stage where I need to replace the tyres and wheels for my 2+2.
> I'm not sure what wheel settings I need to use.
>
> Please can you help here for 15" and currently have 195/45 R15 Tyres.
>
> So far I believe its..
> PCD 4 X 108
> OFFSET 35 - 42?? ET40?
> WIDTH 5J
>
> Many thanks in advance...
>
> If anyone has a good set of four second hand please let me know?
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Seats - Saloon, 2+2..

[Darren Siepka]

If you want harness holes look at the corsa vxr seats , they do a part
leather variant in those too.

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, 10:15 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> The Tigra is based on a Corsa and they have some nice leather seats,
> though i think they all have side airbags.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
> *Sent:* Monday, September 27, 2021 12:24 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Seats - Saloon, 2+2..
>
> I have Corsa seats in both saloon and 2+2.
> The earlier ones had simpler to modify rears with only a simple wire frame
> support on the base squab. The later ones have a big pressed steel plate.
> With a little heat and trimming you can also use the rear quarter panel
> cards in a saloon too in a saloon.
> The sporty model seats can be firm but are very comfortable and supportive.
> Mine were from an sxi( Corsa c year) and Sri (Corsa D year) models, all 3
> door versions .
> Note the Corsa D may have side air bags but these are easy to decommission
> for safety.
> Some models have bucket looking seats with harness slots!
>
> Darren
>
> On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, 17:23 rob hancock,  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Mazda RX8 seats also fit and have a simple electric motor to wire up
>> (purple and grey I think) also ford ka and bmw e46 coupe also fit
>> Regards Rob
>>
>> On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, 16:59 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, <
>> lists...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> @calma
>>> Thanks I had been looking at MX5 seats as they seem to be a popular
>>> choice for kit/older cars. Did you specifically choose MK1 seats? - I have
>>> been trying to find difference between the various MX5 MKs. One  issue I
>>> have seen comments about with MX5 seat swaps is that they make the drivers
>>> seating position high(er) - is that something you found?
>>>
>>> MGF/TF seats appear to be another popular swap on other cars - anyone
>>> tried that?
>>>
>>> Ideally I want seats with tilt, good support, not leather.
>>> On Saturday, 25 September 2021 at 22:32:35 UTC+1 calma...@hotmail.co.uk
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have mk 1 Mazda MX5 seats in mine, not to bad to adapt runners with a
>>>> bit of boxed steel; [image: IMG_0489.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 24 September 2021 at 22:31:45 UTC+1
>>>> list...@liberator-systems.co.uk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Currently my saloon has XR2 front seats. These are just about OK for
>>>>> road use but lack decent support for track days. Looking for suggestions 
>>>>> on
>>>>> easy swap reasonable cost alternatives.  Escort RS Recaros are apparently
>>>>> a straight swap but they go for silly money!
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Seats - Saloon, 2+2..

[Darren Siepka]

I have Corsa seats in both saloon and 2+2.
The earlier ones had simpler to modify rears with only a simple wire frame
support on the base squab. The later ones have a big pressed steel plate.
With a little heat and trimming you can also use the rear quarter panel
cards in a saloon too in a saloon.
The sporty model seats can be firm but are very comfortable and supportive.
Mine were from an sxi( Corsa c year) and Sri (Corsa D year) models, all 3
door versions .
Note the Corsa D may have side air bags but these are easy to decommission
for safety.
Some models have bucket looking seats with harness slots!

Darren

On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, 17:23 rob hancock,  wrote:

> Hi
> Mazda RX8 seats also fit and have a simple electric motor to wire up
> (purple and grey I think) also ford ka and bmw e46 coupe also fit
> Regards Rob
>
> On Sun, 26 Sep 2021, 16:59 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, <
> lists...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> @calma
>> Thanks I had been looking at MX5 seats as they seem to be a popular
>> choice for kit/older cars. Did you specifically choose MK1 seats? - I have
>> been trying to find difference between the various MX5 MKs. One  issue I
>> have seen comments about with MX5 seat swaps is that they make the drivers
>> seating position high(er) - is that something you found?
>>
>> MGF/TF seats appear to be another popular swap on other cars - anyone
>> tried that?
>>
>> Ideally I want seats with tilt, good support, not leather.
>> On Saturday, 25 September 2021 at 22:32:35 UTC+1 calma...@hotmail.co.uk
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have mk 1 Mazda MX5 seats in mine, not to bad to adapt runners with a
>>> bit of boxed steel; [image: IMG_0489.JPG]
>>>
>>> On Friday, 24 September 2021 at 22:31:45 UTC+1
>>> list...@liberator-systems.co.uk wrote:
>>>
 Currently my saloon has XR2 front seats. These are just about OK for
 road use but lack decent support for track days. Looking for suggestions on
 easy swap reasonable cost alternatives.  Escort RS Recaros are apparently
 a straight swap but they go for silly money!

 John

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Re: [Quantum Owners] FW: Quantum 2+2 weight

[Darren Siepka]

My old testing station use to put in 850kg after asking me the weight as it
didn't have it shown, then when they upgraded the test bay it actually
weighed the car during the test and used that subject to a correction
factor so I was told.

Darren

On Fri, 24 Sep 2021, 15:03 Ian Harrison,  wrote:

> I’m with Jim here. The tested has always wellied it down the yard and
> stomped on the brakes on Kermit.
>
> Ian
>
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 at 08:46, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>> I thought if they didn’t know the spec for the car they are supposed to
>> test the brakes on a road test with the inertia tester in the footwell.
>> That’s how my 2+2 has always been tested.
>>
>> Is Dominic in the group or, Jan, are you forwarding the replys ?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> *From:* susanandmartin
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:57 PM
>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] FW: Quantum 2+2 weight
>>
>>
>> An interesting one. When I took my Q saloon for IVA they came up with a
>> weight of around 1200kg (figure may be on copy of MAC?), this was with the
>> car wheels revolving and didn’t seem particularly accurate as the vehicle
>> was pitching up and down all the time.  I was able to use corner weight at
>> a Ford facility and the total was 870kg (seems about correct c/f Q
>> brochure). I think it’s come up with vastly different weights when it had
>> been MOT’d on rollers that supposedly measure the weight. This doesn’t help
>> Dominic’s case, but gives some insight.
>>
>> Martin Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group
>> *Sent: *23 September 2021 21:48
>> *To: *quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [Quantum Owners] FW: Quantum 2+2 weight
>>
>>
>>
>> The original brochure listed it as 820 Kgs
>> Bob Craig
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2021, at 21:38, 'janhaines30' via Quantum Owners Group <
>> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone help Dominic please
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan Haines
>>
>> QOC Membership secretary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>>
>> From: Dominic Byrnes 
>>
>> Date: 23/09/2021 19:44 (GMT+00:00)
>>
>> To: janhaines30 , Richard Byrnes <
>> rickbyrnes1...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: Quantum 2+2 weight
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder if someone in the owners club can help me with a technical
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> My car has failed the M.O.T test due to brakes as the tester has applied
>> 100% lockup values to the brake test as he does not know the weight of the
>> vehicle. I’ve gone over the model details but cannot find the relevant
>> information so I was hoping someone in the club may know the weight of a
>> 2+2 fitted with an XR2 CVH engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Dom
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Darren Siepka]

The ecoboost conversion is detailed on the quantumproboard group

https://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/1017/2-rebuild-ecoboost-conversion

Darren

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 15:48 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

>
> Somebody is doing the Ecoboost conversion, i can’t remember if it was on
> here or on the facebook group (the open one, not the QOC members only one).
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:37 PM
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> *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.
>
>
> I’m told that the Super Unleaded fuel is still E5 so that’s an option if
> you can stomach the extra cost per litre.
>
>
>
> But then I’ve been wondering if maybe my Q might prefer a younger engine
> rather than drink watered down E10 petrol. 
>
> Having been very impressed with the one litre 125PS Ecoboost in my Focus,
> I’m thinking that might make a lot of sense. Anyone tried fitting one of
> those in a Q yet?
>
>
>
> Best
>
>
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] E10 petrol.

[Darren Siepka]

That's my understanding too, metal fuel tanks, hoses and seals are the
worst affected.example seals would be o rings and gaskets ( manifold
perhaps if rubber type?) . Also construction of some units such as level
sender as they have mixed metal and other materials.
Darren

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 09:56 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I've not extensively looked into this, but isn't the issue more related to
> the rubber hoses than anything else?  I thought the higher Ethanol content
> will cause older rubber hoses to break down faster, but newer rubber hoses
> should be OK.
>
> This is from the RAC website, not sure what seals will be affected, but
> our metal fuel tanks might be prone to internal corrosion.
>
> "*If you put E10 fuel in an incompatible car it will still run, but
> seals, plastics and metals may be damaged over longer periods as a result
> of bioethanol's corrosive properties. It is a hygroscopic, which means it
> absorbs water from the atmosphere, leading to condensation in fuel tanks if
> the car remains unused for long periods of time.*"
>
> Happy to be corrected if I am wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
> On 01/09/2021 09:45, Jim Hearne wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> Has anybody seen any information on the compatibility of the CVH and
> silver top Zetec engines with E10 petrol ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] starter cable current

[Darren Siepka]

I use welding lead cable for my main lines, especially as I have the
battery In the boot.
Size wise I use 35 and 50 mm2 cross section.
Reason I use welding lead cable is it tends to be more flexible with
thicker tougher plastic covering, and best of all usually cheaper too :-)

Darren

On Sun, 29 Aug 2021, 13:56 ,  wrote:

> Hi
>
> My H4 is fitted with a 2L silver top and I want to replace the main power
> cables (starter and ground). Can anyone advise what the current rating
> should be?
>
> I suspect the existing wiring was for the original Fiesta 1.6 Zetec so
> potentially is too lightweight. I have found a ~50Ahr battery that fits the
> original cradle (which was for a ~40Ahr battery). So I must have ~ 20%
> increase in cranking amps too. Some 50Ahr batteries are able to generate
> 450A crank current, but I assume (given the options available from
> suppliers) cables do not have to be rated at this current (and it is short
> duration). So what is used?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Many thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Rear Trailing Arms

[Darren Siepka]

Depending on what size speakers you have fitted may mean you won't get your
arm in as is
On my wife's 2+2 the speakers were very small, the only way to get in is to
remove the metal plates that hold the speakers, this will reveal a much
larger opening in the actual GRP itself.

Darren


On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 11:49 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> I hope you are all keeping safe.
>
> Q2-002 has failed her MOT on rear trailing arms, so needs the new ones to
> be fitted.  Can anyone advise how to get to the front mounting points
> please?  The only way I can think is through the speaker holes on the left
> / right of the rear seat, or is there an access panel under the carpet
> somewhere?
>
> The car is at my mechanics at the moment.
>
> Many thanks as always.
>
> Best regards
>
> James T
> Q2-002
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Values

[Darren Siepka]

I have the invoice from old Q for my wife's 2+2 , the buyer paid just over
18k for it!! That was in 95

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021, 12:49 mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Having seen what a 58,000 mile 1989 Fiesta XR2 is now worth, I think we
> might all be undervaluing our Quantums. Hell, even just as a source of
> spare parts, our cars are now getting pretty valuable. We really do need to
> make sure that we remember that.
>
>
>
> £20,250 is now the price to beat.
>
>
>
>
> https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/results/saturday-1st-sunday-2nd-may/1989-ford-fiesta-xr2/
>
>
>
> Best
>
>
>
> Matthew
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Fiesta mk2 Brake master cylinder reservoir

[Darren Siepka]

Perhaps consider fitting a remote reservoir? I did this on my saloon as the
servo conversion I did left the reservoir at the wrong angle. Take a look
at the type used on series 1 freelanders as an example.

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, 08:43 flob...@gmail.com,  wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion but I've tried ebay and their are plenty of
> master cylinders of right type but no reservoirs, the m/cylinders with
> attached reservoirs are the wrong type.
> Russ
>
> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 8:27:21 PM UTC+1 Derek Clews wrote:
>
>> Hi Russ
>>
>> You have to be careful to get the right one but eBay seems to have some
>> bits.  Including a complete unit with eveything attached:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=fiesta+Mk2+brake+master+cylinder&_sacat=0
>>
>> ATB
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On 6 Jun 2021, at 12:12, flob...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know where i can get a brake master cylinder reservoir ? New
>> or second hand i don't mind which. I think the mk1 & 2 are the same and
>> possibly the mk3 can anyone confirm that?
>> Russ
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation

[Darren Siepka]

Here is the heated windscreen supplier

https://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acatalog/ford-fiesta-clear-heated-windscreen.html

To the club website bods , can a link to that source be added somewhere
perhaps?

On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 12:33 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, <
lists...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:

> Thanks to all for their input on ventilation question.
>
>  Just to confirm my saloon suffered from internal misting up (front, side
> and rear). I am currently rebuilding - most of the car is stripped apart
> from dash & engine bay so now would be a good time to install any rear
> vents/ducting to prevent future problems.  Just before I took car off road
> I was getting major water ingress - i.e. footwells soaked (misting was
> happening before this though). A lot of this water was coming through glass
> sunroof which had obvious signs of previous attempts to seal. Sunroof has
> now been removed and replaced with bonded in blanking panel with roof
> reinforced so no more water from there.
>
> Re; Front arch intakes - I had a quick look and it seemsf both wheel
> arches already have covers at front - some sort of soft material.
>
> Re: B pillar vents - to those who have these do the openings go straight
> through into door pillar cavity or is their any kind of fabric/mesh on the
> back? I don't know whether to drill my holes out cleanly or not. The
> effectiveness of these also seems a bit dubious to me (although QSC appreas
> to contradict this when they warn about water being sucked in somehow
> without blocking pillars?). When car is moving I can see they are in a
> low pressure area but with all interior trim fitted seems like cabin air
> would have a pretty restricted path to exit?
>
> Re: Parcel shelf vents - I had also considered this but I would have
> thought to be effective their needs to be a low pressure opening in boot
> area somewhere to pull cabin air through. External rear quarter vents from
> Buebird seems like they would work well to achieve this but I am not keen
> chop body in visible area. I am thinking a simple tube type duct/vent
> through boot floor may work - I already have boot mods for fuel pumps,
> swirl pot, ARB mounts etc. so another mod will not matter there.
>
> Re: Heater leak - always a possibility but I don't think mine is leaking
> (fingers crossed!). Since I stripped interior and dried it out there has
> not been any further water in footwells (car is under cover now). With
> engine running and cooling system under pressure this could change but at
> moment I cannot start engine to test.
>
> Re: Heated windscreen - I always liked these in my Mondeos. Who supplies
> these? Were they a Ford factory option for Fiesta Mk2? If my screen has to
> come out (when I start chasing leaks) I would consider this if cost is not
> too bad.
>
> Obviously any water in the cabin is going to cause condesation problems so
> I will be trying to chase down any possible water entry points as I
> rebuild. One obvious area looks like the front window rubbers - I have at
> least a 5mm gap bewteen glass and rubber lip.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On Monday, 22 March 2021 at 22:40:59 UTC dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
>
>> I have a BMW 180A alternator fitted for just such a reason, that and the
>> EPAS which also pulls loads of power too :-).
>> Not sure whether that alternator will fit on a cvh or zetec mind you
>> As fitted to N47 on e6x ,8x and 9x BMW and mini, cheaper than a fiesta
>> unit !
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 18:57 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>>
>>> That is huge on a standard alternator!  Must take an hour of running to
>>> recharge the battery after a cold morning start?
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 17:52, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah no , this is an auxiliary heater matrix, runs on 12v from the car!
>>> Pulls like 80a or so!
>>> See piccys.
>>>
>>> Darren
>>>
>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 13:37 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On my 2+2 rebuild I am going to fit a sump heater to use 240V to
>>>> preheat the oil in the engine to reduce wear and provide quicker heat for
>>>> short journeys.  At present I have to drive around 5 miles before the car
>>>> is up to temperature.
>>>>
>>>> The energy required to heat water like you are doing using 12 V is a
>>>> great deal.  How does that even work?  Or is it 240V as well?  Reading it
>>>> again you don't say.  240V only works when you are starting from home, not
>>>> the works car park.
>>>>
>>>> On a really c

Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation

[Darren Siepka]

I have a BMW 180A alternator fitted for just such a reason, that and the
EPAS which also pulls loads of power too :-).
Not sure whether that alternator will fit on a cvh or zetec mind you
As fitted to N47 on e6x ,8x and 9x BMW and mini, cheaper than a fiesta unit
!

Darren

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 18:57 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> That is huge on a standard alternator!  Must take an hour of running to
> recharge the battery after a cold morning start?
>
> Derek
>
>
>
> On 22 Mar 2021, at 17:52, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Ah no , this is an auxiliary heater matrix, runs on 12v from the car!
> Pulls like 80a or so!
> See piccys.
>
> Darren
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 13:37 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>
>> On my 2+2 rebuild I am going to fit a sump heater to use 240V to preheat
>> the oil in the engine to reduce wear and provide quicker heat for short
>> journeys.  At present I have to drive around 5 miles before the car is up
>> to temperature.
>>
>> The energy required to heat water like you are doing using 12 V is a
>> great deal.  How does that even work?  Or is it 240V as well?  Reading it
>> again you don't say.  240V only works when you are starting from home, not
>> the works car park.
>>
>> On a really cold day start I have been known to runout a cord and mains
>> fan heater to warm up the car before I go!
>>
>> Derek.
>>
>>
>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 13:16, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>>
>> The electric elements as fitted to recent diesel OEM vehicles work
>> amazingly!
>> They do draw lots of leccy so beware.
>>
>> I have put one in supplement to the water radiator in my current 2+2
>> rebuild to enable near instant hot air upon startup , they reach temp in
>> about 60seconds!
>> I am using one from a focus/Volvo ( same parts) very simple to operate, a
>> simple pwm signal sets the output, but there are other versions like the
>> ones on Mk7 8 fiesta that use a multi wire approach to level setting.
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 11:35 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>>
>>> I have taken the low tech approach and just crack the windows open as
>>> necessary.  Beginning to think the electric screen is the right idea.  Pity
>>> they are only in clear colour as all my Q’s are light green glass.  Put
>>> have wondered about the latest generation of electric blower demisters.
>>> Seems that are good enough for Caterham to get approved with only them
>>> fitted.
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 Mar 2021, at 10:43, kynastonp .  wrote:
>>>
>>> When I built my saloon people were complaining about misting of the side
>>> and rear windows , the factory suggested fitting the astramax vent in the
>>> rear of the door opening . I also fitted vents under the rear window to
>>> allow air through the parcel shelf and more vents from the sides of the
>>> boot into the inner wing . Never had a problem after that . The vents some
>>> people have fitted in the rear wings are from a Nissan bluebird from 1986
>>> onwards.
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> on behalf of Darren Siepka 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2021 10:17:48 AM
>>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation
>>>
>>> Further to what Jim was saying about air pressure,
>>> I was told that the venting assisted in making sufficient air movement
>>> in the cabin to let the blower pull in air more easily whilst not causing a
>>> negative differential to the outside which would have encouraged leaks..
>>> I have the grey Slat type vents in my saloon door post.
>>>
>>> The best fix for windscreen misting would be to put an electric heated
>>> screen in , which are a straight fit :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 10:05 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>>>
>>> My understand of the issue with the ventilation in the saloon was more
>>> misting of the rear side windows and rear screen.
>>> Hence the fitting of the vents in the B pillars (mine has those) or in
>>> the rear quarters.
>>> I don’t remember having any real issues on my saloon but it does also
>>> have the splash guards in front of the front wheel arches.
>>>
>>> As you say, the only real exit from a unmodified saloon is via the door
>>> hinge openings.
>>> Although, remember when the do

Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation

[Darren Siepka]

The electric elements as fitted to recent diesel OEM vehicles work
amazingly!
They do draw lots of leccy so beware.

I have put one in supplement to the water radiator in my current 2+2
rebuild to enable near instant hot air upon startup , they reach temp in
about 60seconds!
I am using one from a focus/Volvo ( same parts) very simple to operate, a
simple pwm signal sets the output, but there are other versions like the
ones on Mk7 8 fiesta that use a multi wire approach to level setting.

Darren

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 11:35 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> I have taken the low tech approach and just crack the windows open as
> necessary.  Beginning to think the electric screen is the right idea.  Pity
> they are only in clear colour as all my Q’s are light green glass.  Put
> have wondered about the latest generation of electric blower demisters.
> Seems that are good enough for Caterham to get approved with only them
> fitted.
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 22 Mar 2021, at 10:43, kynastonp .  wrote:
>
> When I built my saloon people were complaining about misting of the side
> and rear windows , the factory suggested fitting the astramax vent in the
> rear of the door opening . I also fitted vents under the rear window to
> allow air through the parcel shelf and more vents from the sides of the
> boot into the inner wing . Never had a problem after that . The vents some
> people have fitted in the rear wings are from a Nissan bluebird from 1986
> onwards.
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>
> ------
> *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Darren Siepka 
> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2021 10:17:48 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation
>
> Further to what Jim was saying about air pressure,
> I was told that the venting assisted in making sufficient air movement in
> the cabin to let the blower pull in air more easily whilst not causing a
> negative differential to the outside which would have encouraged leaks..
> I have the grey Slat type vents in my saloon door post.
>
> The best fix for windscreen misting would be to put an electric heated
> screen in , which are a straight fit :-)
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 10:05 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>
> My understand of the issue with the ventilation in the saloon was more
> misting of the rear side windows and rear screen.
> Hence the fitting of the vents in the B pillars (mine has those) or in the
> rear quarters.
> I don’t remember having any real issues on my saloon but it does also have
> the splash guards in front of the front wheel arches.
>
> As you say, the only real exit from a unmodified saloon is via the door
> hinge openings.
> Although, remember when the door is shut 99% of that area is blocked off
> by the other half of the hinge.
>
> I believe there have been cases of the bonded in glass popping out when
> doors are slammed due to the air pressure.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 21, 2021 8:12 PM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon Ventilation
>
> John
>
> Am I correct in thinking that, like many Q saloon owners, you are troubled
> with dampness in the cabin and the consequent high (in comparison with
> mass-produced cars) tendency for windows to steam up and such?
>
> Prompted by a drive in torrential rain last year which caused the
> windscreen to instantly and heavily steam up, reducing vision to near zero,
> I investigated and as a result modified my Q as follows, which has resulted
> in dramatic improvement. The mod is simple. Block off the heater air
> intakes in the underside of the front wings just behind the headlights (I
> used some nice springy closed cell polyurethane 50mm sponge cut oversize to
> the roughly triangular shape of the intakes). The heater now draws air only
> through the door hinge holes, where the air is relatively dry. The front
> intakes, effectively within the wheel arch, drew not only moist air but
> water droplets when driving in even quite light rain. Other owners have
> fitted wing arch panels to shield the intakes from heavy tyre spray but I
> believe that to be ineffective in the more extreme wet conditions. You will
> be wondering whether the area of the hinge openings is sufficient, as was
> I, but although I was prepared to drill a couple of additional 30mm dia
> holes each side that has not been necessary. The area of the hinge holes is
> approximately equal to the area of the gap around the lower (below
> waistline) portion of the door and at 80cm2 each side appears to be
> sufficient.
>
> B pillar vents -  mine has them but I believe the only real benefit is on
&

Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

[Darren Siepka]

I recently took a template off a BMW mini with a view to updating my
hardtop, fits quite well.
I have been investigating creating a t top with rear wiper for more all
year round use.

Darren

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 12:16 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> I would think it’s not a very common requirement, as a long as a screen
> fits Car X Model Y nobody is really interested in it’s actual sizes.
> Except kit builders of course.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* susanandmartin
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:59 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
>
> I wonder if glass suppliers have catalogues with dimensions shown? It
> would be very helpful for us kit builders to be able to find such detail.
> I’ve looked at great length on the ‘net but found to such info ☹
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Jim Hearne
> *Sent: *04 March 2021 11:34
> *To: *quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
>
>
> Oh, i suppose, maybe.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Hearne
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:32 AM
>
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
>
>
> I’m still not convinced that it was a hatchback screen for the Mk2
> Hardtop, i’m sure it would be far too big.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:02 AM
>
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
>
>
> Here are images MK3 and MK4 golf glass to help identifying.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:59 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
>
>
> https://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/106/quantum-saloon-fiesta-donor-parts
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:49 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>
> Looks like a copy of the list i was looking for, do you have a link and
> i’ll save it again.
>
> I can confirm the 2+2 Mk1 hardtop did use a screen from a Mk4 Escort Cabro
> as i actually removed one from an Escort top and fitted in into my 2+2 hard
> top.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:35 AM
>
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
>
>
> This from proboard forum
>
>
>
> Says the bonded rear glass was mk3 hatchback.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:28 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
>
> Here are the two QTR glass codes
>
>
>
> Also don't forget you can get new HEATED front windscreens .
>
>
>
>
> https://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acatalog/ford-fiesta-clear-heated-windscreen.html
>
>
>
> As Jim says the newer smooth hardtop uses a golf bonded glass from MK4 iirc
>
>
>
> Darren
>
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 09:59 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>
> 2+2 Quarterlight glass
>
>
>
> > Desc. Passat FDVL 81/88
>
> > HT Number..0730L GN5HFV
>
> > Sup. Part..321 845 251G
>
> > Bin No..M1023
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> The Mk2 saloon door door glass is MkII Astra 3 door 1984-1991, not the
> 2+2, as Paul says, that was Mk2 Fiesta
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Gordon Harker
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 11:20 PM
>
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
>
>
> Strong little cars those 2+2's and did not intend to find out until under
> hard braking on a dry road the back over took the front.  Ended up visiting
> a ditch and hedge.  Still restored my faith in people, they stopped and
> towed me out, drove home.
>
>
>
> On assessment, one bent tie rod, and lot broken glass and some excess
> hawthorne hedge.
>
>
>
> So, does any one know what the glass is please?  Specifically
>
>
>
> Rear heated glass on the later hard top, bonded I believe.
>
> Front quarter light n/s
>
> Assume windscreen and passenger window are standard MK2 bits (believe
> based on 83 ish car)
>
>
>
> the windscreen did intially survive, but the hedge got in on the way our,
> guess it was being vindictive.
>
>
>
> Other things are the fibre glass top (hockey stick) on top of quarter
> light is broken and front corner to hard top and not sitting flush at
> moment.  Hard top should fibre glass ok and hockey stick may unless anyone
> has one lying around.
>
>
>
> Pa

Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

[Darren Siepka]

Looking at your the image of the hardtop and compared to the photos it does
look to be a MK3 hatch glass.

Soo much more vision area compared to the earlier one.

Darren

On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 11:34 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> Oh, i suppose, maybe.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Jim Hearne
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:32 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
> I’m still not convinced that it was a hatchback screen for the Mk2
> Hardtop, i’m sure it would be far too big.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:02 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
> Here are images MK3 and MK4 golf glass to help identifying.
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:59 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/106/quantum-saloon-fiesta-donor-parts
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:49 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a copy of the list i was looking for, do you have a link and
>>> i’ll save it again.
>>> I can confirm the 2+2 Mk1 hardtop did use a screen from a Mk4 Escort
>>> Cabro as i actually removed one from an Escort top and fitted in into my
>>> 2+2 hard top.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Darren Siepka
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:35 AM
>>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>>>
>>> This from proboard forum
>>>
>>> Says the bonded rear glass was mk3 hatchback.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:28 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here are the two QTR glass codes
>>>>
>>>> Also don't forget you can get new HEATED front windscreens .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acatalog/ford-fiesta-clear-heated-windscreen.html
>>>>
>>>> As Jim says the newer smooth hardtop uses a golf bonded glass from MK4
>>>> iirc
>>>>
>>>> Darren
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 09:59 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2+2 Quarterlight glass
>>>>>
>>>>> > Desc. Passat FDVL 81/88
>>>>> > HT Number..0730L GN5HFV
>>>>> > Sup. Part..321 845 251G
>>>>> > Bin No..M1023
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Mk2 saloon door door glass is MkII Astra 3 door 1984-1991, not the
>>>>> 2+2, as Paul says, that was Mk2 Fiesta
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Gordon Harker
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 11:20 PM
>>>>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>>>>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>>>>>
>>>>> Strong little cars those 2+2's and did not intend to find out until
>>>>> under hard braking on a dry road the back over took the front.  Ended up
>>>>> visiting a ditch and hedge.  Still restored my faith in people, they
>>>>> stopped and towed me out, drove home.
>>>>>
>>>>> On assessment, one bent tie rod, and lot broken glass and some excess
>>>>> hawthorne hedge.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, does any one know what the glass is please?  Specifically
>>>>>
>>>>> Rear heated glass on the later hard top, bonded I believe.
>>>>> Front quarter light n/s
>>>>> Assume windscreen and passenger window are standard MK2 bits (believe
>>>>> based on 83 ish car)
>>>>>
>>>>> the windscreen did intially survive, but the hedge got in on the way
>>>>> our, guess it was being vindictive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other things are the fibre glass top (hockey stick) on top of quarter
>>>>> light is broken and front corner to hard top and not sitting flush at
>>>>> moment.  Hard top should fibre glass ok and hockey stick may unless anyone
>>>>> has one lying around.
>>>>>
>>>>> Passenger door jammed shut but got even gaps all round, so will look
>>>>> at on a dry weeked.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please

[Darren Siepka]

https://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/106/quantum-saloon-fiesta-donor-parts


On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:49 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> Looks like a copy of the list i was looking for, do you have a link and
> i’ll save it again.
> I can confirm the 2+2 Mk1 hardtop did use a screen from a Mk4 Escort Cabro
> as i actually removed one from an Escort top and fitted in into my 2+2 hard
> top.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 4, 2021 10:35 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>
> This from proboard forum
>
> Says the bonded rear glass was mk3 hatchback.
>
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 10:28 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
>
>> Here are the two QTR glass codes
>>
>> Also don't forget you can get new HEATED front windscreens .
>>
>>
>> https://www.heatedwindscreen.com/acatalog/ford-fiesta-clear-heated-windscreen.html
>>
>> As Jim says the newer smooth hardtop uses a golf bonded glass from MK4
>> iirc
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, 09:59 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>>
>>> 2+2 Quarterlight glass
>>>
>>> > Desc. Passat FDVL 81/88
>>> > HT Number..0730L GN5HFV
>>> > Sup. Part..321 845 251G
>>> > Bin No..M1023
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> The Mk2 saloon door door glass is MkII Astra 3 door 1984-1991, not the
>>> 2+2, as Paul says, that was Mk2 Fiesta
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gordon Harker
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 3, 2021 11:20 PM
>>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Advise or help please
>>>
>>> Strong little cars those 2+2's and did not intend to find out until
>>> under hard braking on a dry road the back over took the front.  Ended up
>>> visiting a ditch and hedge.  Still restored my faith in people, they
>>> stopped and towed me out, drove home.
>>>
>>> On assessment, one bent tie rod, and lot broken glass and some excess
>>> hawthorne hedge.
>>>
>>> So, does any one know what the glass is please?  Specifically
>>>
>>> Rear heated glass on the later hard top, bonded I believe.
>>> Front quarter light n/s
>>> Assume windscreen and passenger window are standard MK2 bits (believe
>>> based on 83 ish car)
>>>
>>> the windscreen did intially survive, but the hedge got in on the way
>>> our, guess it was being vindictive.
>>>
>>> Other things are the fibre glass top (hockey stick) on top of quarter
>>> light is broken and front corner to hard top and not sitting flush at
>>> moment.  Hard top should fibre glass ok and hockey stick may unless anyone
>>> has one lying around.
>>>
>>> Passenger door jammed shut but got even gaps all round, so will look at
>>> on a dry weeked.
>>>
>>> Thanks
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Re: [Quantum Owners] H4 headlamps

[Darren Siepka]

Yes pictures would be helpful.
Morette units usually had Hella light units of differing sizes including
xenon types.

On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 18:42 kynastonp,  wrote:

> Morette made a conversion for the MK3 89-95 fiesta ,it had two different
> sized lenses as you describe. They seem to be still available at
> morette.shop and they have a contact link.
>
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, 17:59 ,  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> My H4 has a blown main beam headlamp bulb. The problem is no-one
>> recognises what it is. As I understand it the original kit used the Fiesta
>> integrated lights. However this one has been fitted with a mod - each side
>> is a pair of circular light modules of different sizes. Does anyone know
>> what the bulbs were that were used and if possible, where to find
>> replacements? I have a feeling they are halogens, they are quite bright.
>> But the pattern is unknown. It has been suggested that this might have been
>> a Moretti (?) unit.
>>
>> Any info on bulb type and suppliers gratefully received!
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

[Darren Siepka]

The offset axle is quite common, easy fix cut and fit an adjuster
turnbuckle in the panard rod.
I am about to modify a 2+2 panhard rod using the adjuster cut from a mazda6
tie rod. I will post more on that soon

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020, 19:54 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, <
lists...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:

> £12 is certainly cheap for a BMW part! Will be interesting to see how this
> looks when you get it all installed and of course how it performs. Pretty
> sure I will need to follow a similar route  My rear (suspension that is) )
> needs a good working over - needs shorter springs (the ride height is way
> too high - the rear has the 4*4 look which seems common on Quantum saloons)
> - needs an adjustable panhard rod (axle is quite offset) - needs new
> trailing arms and poly bushing all round
> On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 20:31:52 UTC dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
>
>> So here is a picture showing a comparison of the xr2 Vs the 12mm E60 bar.
>>
>> I found it by lots and lots of picture comparing on the net, then took a
>> gamble on the 12mm which was just £12 delivered!
>>
>> I have designed some extension arms to go onto the original ends , this
>> will offer adjustability and reduce its torsion rating.
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 19:05 list...@liberator-systems.co.uk, <
>> list...@liberator-systems.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Darren you seem to have a talent for finding and adapting parts ;-)...
>>>
>>> Can I ask how did you arrive at the BMW bar solution - trawling through
>>> scrapyards or did you find some reference material regarding bar dimensions
>>> on different cars?
>>>
>>> I started searching by just by looking at photos of various bars which
>>> have similar shape/proportions. Mazda MX5 front was one candidate although
>>> I haven't measured one up yet.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 16:27:01 UTC
>>> susanan...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>>>
 That servo installation looks good – did it  need a new mounting
 bracket and a change to the transfer tube?

 Martin



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 *To:* quantu...@googlegroups.com

 *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware



 It may be that later ones have the same part (but with a different part
 number), but IIRC they changed to a twist beam with no separate ARB.
 Anything over a few years old will possibly be difficult to obtain.

 BTW how did the Land Rover servo fit on the Q03?

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Re: Fw: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

[Darren Siepka]

Without wanting to stray the thread too much , I will be posting my report
on my latest servo master cyl conversion soon after I complete testing.i
have used a mgf setup(y2000). I have also installed all the abs gubbins too
! If it doesn't behave then it will just get unplugged and the hardware
will behave like a normal servod system.

Back to the brackets, on my first 2+2 the brackets supplied were clearly
made in house, the ones on my wife's car are OEM.

On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 15:36 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> *From:* susanandmartin
> *Sent:* Monday, November 2, 2020 3:07 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
>
>
> It may be that later ones have the same part (but with a different part
> number), but IIRC they changed to a twist beam with no separate ARB.
> Anything over a few years old will possibly be difficult to obtain.
>
> BTW how did the Land Rover servo fit on the Q03?
>
> Martin
>
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware

[Darren Siepka]

I am just replacing/ updating the rear bar on my 2+2 which is the same as
the saloon.
I am using a BMW rear bar from E60/61.
There are several sizes ranging from a 12mm to a 18mm depending on engine
size.
It is narrower so you need new brackets on the axle
But they are cheap, very cheap.
According to the roll bar calculator a 12 mm works out the same torsional
rating as our 14mm, the 18mm I got from an M5 calculates as being just over
twice nearly three times! I also have a 12mm so will see how the two differ.

On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 10:45 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> On the saloon only the ARB itself and the rubber bushes are Mk2 Fiesta.
> There are no mounting brackets like on the Fiesta, the clamps bolt
> directly to the floor.
> And the Clamps are top hat shaped clamps with 2 bolts rather than P shaped
> with 1 bolt on the Fiesta
> From memory they came from Mk3 Fiesta but i might be wrong.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* John R
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 31, 2020 4:21 PM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Saloon rear ARB mounting hardware
>
> Hi All
>
> Are the saloon rear ARB brackets, P clamps etc. custom QSC or standard
> Fiesta MK2?  I do have a build manual but it does not seem to specify.
>
> Currently running what looks like a standard XR2 ARB 14mm diameter but as
> I will be rebuilding rear suspension soon thinking of upgrading it.
>
> John
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar

[Darren Siepka]

Those 2+2 pics would be great thanks.
Also if anyone has one to sell I would be interested too.
Darren

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, 08:26 philfi2clean cleaning, 
wrote:

> i do have a 2+2 towbar ...i just need to get into my cellar and find
> itwhich i wont be able to do until saturday...ill post some pics for you
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 19:36, Darren Siepka  wrote:
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>> I'm looking for a 2+2 towbar if anyone has one for sale or has the
>> details how it differs to the saloon one (I have a bar fitted on my saloon
>> I can measure/copy)
>>
>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 14:38 russ price,  wrote:
>>
>>>  I tried ADS a couple times over the last few months and got no reply so
>>> had more or less given up on them, today i thought i would give them one
>>> last try and got through, they will get back to me but it looks hopeful.
>>> Aufer Sorry to have messed you around, however if you are looking to
>>> sell yours have you seen the ad in classifieds looking for one.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 9:13:55 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a
>>>> saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on
>>>> designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
>>>> Russ
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon tow bar

[Darren Siepka]

I'm looking for a 2+2 towbar if anyone has one for sale or has the details
how it differs to the saloon one (I have a bar fitted on my saloon  I can
measure/copy)

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 14:38 russ price,  wrote:

>  I tried ADS a couple times over the last few months and got no reply so
> had more or less given up on them, today i thought i would give them one
> last try and got through, they will get back to me but it looks hopeful.
> Aufer Sorry to have messed you around, however if you are looking to sell
> yours have you seen the ad in classifieds looking for one.
>
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 9:13:55 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>>
>> Hi Can anyone give me any diagrams or pics of tow bars fitted to a
>> saloon?  I assume i'll have to fabricate one from sctatch but any info on
>> designs, mounting points etc much apreciated.
>> Russ
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 rear shocks and springs

[Darren Siepka]

Just seen these kyb rears
Item
332465089417
Pair for £49 as on special !

On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, 18:11 Darren Siepka,  wrote:

> I got some r11007 Monroe's from a old stock place based in Italy just
> before lockdown for £35 delivered the pair!
> The seller was agmotordiginatoandrea.
> I don't know if he has any more.
> They were delivered very quickly.
> I have nothing to do with them just a happy customer
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, 17:23 Sonia,  wrote:
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>> After 23 years it is probably time to change the rear springs and shock
>> absorbers on our 2+2, plus they came up as advisories on the last MOT. Just
>> want to check we are looking at the right parts before we order
>>
>> Rear springs
>> We have seen on previous forum posts that 1.1 Fiesta springs should be
>> used which would make them KYB  RA5045 Diam 10 mm Length 307 mm,
>> or presumably equivalents? We have found cross references to FORD -
>> OE-6132823, LESJÖFORS - OE-24047020, and MONROE: SP0686. We can buy a
>> pair of the LESJÖFORS from onlinecarparts.co.uk for around £47 delivered
>>
>> Rear shock absorbers
>> Research on the online KYB catalogue seems to show it is the same shock
>> absorber for all engine sizes of both Mk1 and Mk2 Fiestas, ie KYB 332004
>> which are available on eBay for around £70 per pair delivered
>>
>> So, the questions are
>> - are the above the correct parts for our 2+2?
>> - are the prices above competitive?
>> - are there equivalents to the KYB 332004 shock absorbers which are more
>> cost effective? (Don't want/need anything fancy or adjustable. Have been
>> happy with ride for over 100,000 miles with what we already have and would
>> probably never get around to doing any adjustments anyway!)
>>
>> We would welcome input from anyone with more knowledge than us (which is
>> probably most of you)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sonia & Pete
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 rear shocks and springs

[Darren Siepka]

I got some r11007 Monroe's from a old stock place based in Italy just
before lockdown for £35 delivered the pair!
The seller was agmotordiginatoandrea.
I don't know if he has any more.
They were delivered very quickly.
I have nothing to do with them just a happy customer


On Thu, 4 Jun 2020, 17:23 Sonia,  wrote:

> After 23 years it is probably time to change the rear springs and shock
> absorbers on our 2+2, plus they came up as advisories on the last MOT. Just
> want to check we are looking at the right parts before we order
>
> Rear springs
> We have seen on previous forum posts that 1.1 Fiesta springs should be
> used which would make them KYB  RA5045 Diam 10 mm Length 307 mm,
> or presumably equivalents? We have found cross references to FORD -
> OE-6132823, LESJÖFORS - OE-24047020, and MONROE: SP0686. We can buy a
> pair of the LESJÖFORS from onlinecarparts.co.uk for around £47 delivered
>
> Rear shock absorbers
> Research on the online KYB catalogue seems to show it is the same shock
> absorber for all engine sizes of both Mk1 and Mk2 Fiestas, ie KYB 332004
> which are available on eBay for around £70 per pair delivered
>
> So, the questions are
> - are the above the correct parts for our 2+2?
> - are the prices above competitive?
> - are there equivalents to the KYB 332004 shock absorbers which are more
> cost effective? (Don't want/need anything fancy or adjustable. Have been
> happy with ride for over 100,000 miles with what we already have and would
> probably never get around to doing any adjustments anyway!)
>
> We would welcome input from anyone with more knowledge than us (which is
> probably most of you)
>
> Thanks
>
> Sonia & Pete
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Bonnet hinge upgrade

[Darren Siepka]

Yes that is what had been done on this bonnet , both bolts were seized in
the subframe and the threads had ruined the bonnet holes!
The accident damage had ripped the brackets away from the bonnet itself.

On 15 May 2020 3:15 pm, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:

> I did something similar on mine except the bearing is about 40mm of PTFE
> with a flange on the end.
> The shaft is stainless and held into the subframe with a set screw so it
> can only rotate in the bearing.
>
> I think the trouble with a lot of 2+2 bonnets is that people put the pivot
> bolts in from the subframe and let the bonnet pivot on the bolt threads.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
> *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2020 2:59 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Bonnet hinge upgrade
>
> Here are a few pictures
>
> On 15 May 2020 2:56 pm, "dar...@siepka.me.uk"  wrote:
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> Just wanted to share a modification i made to the bonnet hinges on the
> 2+2. Mine were damaged and coming away from the main moulding, the holes
> had enlarged too.
> I made a grp block using two layers of 450gsm then 6 layers of 2mm core
> mat, then two further layers of 450gsm, i a shape i had made a card
> template of.
> I did this on a bit of lightly waxed melamine with a plasticine ring
> around it to keep the resin contained.
> Once set i machined for a 10mm ball race(26mm od x 8mm wide).a stainless
> steel double seal version was used.
> This block was the glassed in place back onto the bonnet.
> Now with the bolts tight it pivots smoothly on the bearing! No more
> grinding!
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: New large disc conversion

[Darren Siepka]

It took a fair few hours browsing the brake disc catalog and photos of
hundreds of brake calipers to narrow it down .
I had a cosworth disc from years back laying about to measure up.

I have cougar V6 discs (also 280mm ) on my saloon but the caliper is a mix
of xr4x4 and original fiesta as well as a adaptor plate. Those calipers are
getting rare these days so I wanted a recent model solution which turned
out fairly smart .

I will post the details of the new version of my rear disc conversion soon
once I finalize the mounting plate for caliper and the cable fitting on the
actuator( yes I am fitting electric handbrake too!)

On Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:32 'JR' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Great work Darren. How did you manage to work it out!
> John
>
> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 1:09:29 PM UTC+1, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
>>
>> I have worked out a large disc conversion for 2+2 and saloon using recent
>> model parts.you need 15" or larger wheels to fit the 280mm discs!!
>>
>> The conversion is very simple, needing only two modifications!.
>>
>> Parts needed.
>> Discs
>> Adc1280/dsk3118 or ndb1906.
>> These are ford ecosport 1.5d 2013 on.
>>
>> Or you can use nbd207,
>>  these are ford sierra/escort cosworth 4x4, note must be 4x4 as they only
>> fitted these to that model.
>>
>> Calipers
>> I used
>> 2007 volvo s40 300mm.
>> But these calipers are also fitted to volvo v70, s80, s60 and c70, also
>> ford focus mk3(11-), some mk2(05-11) and cmax.
>>
>> BUT they must be from the 300mm disc models!!!
>> Do NOT get 278mm calipers as they won't work. The caliper mounting has
>> 300 cast into it for identification.
>>
>> How to fit.
>> All that is needed is to drill out the holes in the hub to 12.2mm to
>> clear the caliper bolts which are 12mm(the old fiesta are 10mm)
>> Thats it!hose fits as normal, discs go straight on and with the hole
>> opened so do the calipers.
>> Note, if you use the cosworth disc you need a 5-6mm spacer between the
>> caliper and hub lug to correct the disc offset.
>>
>> As usual, use of this information comes with no warranties or liability.
>> Please check your wheels and other clearance beforehand.
>>  Magazine editor add this to the magazine if you please.
>>
>> Enjoy and stay safe
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers

[Darren Siepka]

Wheel arch liners??
I always felt something was missing and so why so much dirt built up!

On Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 22:12 susanandmartin, <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> I used the minimum of self-tappers for mine which (mostly) wedge into
> position, so If I recall only 3 screws. Were yours supplied with the kit? I
> had to make my own.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
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> *From: *Derek Clews 
> *Sent: *10 February 2020 18:33
> *To: *Quantum Owners Club 
> *Cc: *Derek Clews 
> *Subject: *[Quantum Owners] Coupe front wheel arch covers
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> Took off the nose cone today.  The inner wheel arch covers that fill the
> back of the nose cone within the wheel arch are pop riveted on.  I did
> wonder if there is a better way of doing it?  The rivets are quite
> practical and easy enough to reset, so maybe not.  But I note that
> production vehicles now use a plastic clip system for the same job.
> Rivnuts and dome head bolts seem to be the deluxe version.  But maybe they
> would not last?
>
>
>
> What have you done?  What is the best?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] New car effect

[Darren Siepka]

Yes I agree , I intend to keep my Q's especially in view of the low cost
insurance and the tax exemption ( one is the other two in 2025)

There is one other factor that is priceless,
Parked up near some very classy expensive OEM cars and getting asked "wow
what is that ? Looks smart! "

Darren

On Sun, 9 Feb 2020, 14:26 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> HI All,
>
> Interesting to hear about the new kits that may be coming to market.  I
> did wonder what the effect of that may be on our existing ones?  Change the
> resale value?  Raise awareness at least?
>
> I have built two (and a half) Kits. But I wondered who would buy and build
> them?  I personally used my 2+2 that I built as a regular car and commuted
> in it since 2001. And then the coupe also when finished off.  We have now
> retired and we do not need 2 (or 3) regular cars anymore.  I plan to keep
> mine on the road and use them at this point.
>
> I also have a very impractical Blackjack Avion for fine days.  I note that
> the trend in Kits is for the more outrageous and impractical kits to keep
> their value and more practical ones to behave like production cars and
> devalue.  I have certainly been offered as much as it cost to build for my
> Avion and I think with a bit of effort I could get a some more.
>
> It has been a sore topic of discussion just how little Q’s seem to be
> worth secondhand.  Certainly a lot less than their non-rusting
> practicality.  I did for a while consider selling all three of my kits and
> building one other as a replacement.  In the end I decided that cars are
> not the place to put any money in retirement and I would spend on other
> things and keep what I had serviceable with slow-time rebuilds, using SORN
> to keep costs down.
>
> What do you think?
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

[Darren Siepka]

Yes it was a MK1 , as Jim said I had to mod the strut tops , retaining the
original struts though(some spacers iirc were needed) , but the rear axle
was MK1( albeit with disc brakes)
The car ran a 5speed and hubs from a mk2 fitted after the 1700crossflow
kept busting splines.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 14:58 kynastonp .,  wrote:

> Pre 1983 is MK1 fiesta
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
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> on behalf of Derek Clews 
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 2:43:39 PM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Forum 
> *Cc:* Derek Clews 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?
>
> Interesting.  So the Logbook needs to read historic?  I wondered if that
> had changed as we don’t do tax discs anymore and the whole taxing process
> is more automated online.
>
> Showing my ignorance here but what donor is the 1978 car?  That would be
> Fiesta Mk1?
>
> They certainly have changed the reg system over the years, then.
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 24 Jan 2020, at 13:06, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> To change the log book you need to apply for tax in the post office.
> Complete section 7 tax class, change to historic.
> They will give you your free tax disc and send off the logbook to be
> changed.
>
> All three of my quantum only have a single date of registration.all are
> correctly registered as the appropriate quantum type.
> On one there is a note on front page in sect3 special notes: states 1.kit
> built converted- assembled from parts all of which may not be new.
>
> There are no other notes or comments.
> My saloon is dated 85 , one 2-2 86 and one is 78.
> I don't know about the other two but the 78 2-2 I built and kept its doner
> reg in full
> They all only have simple rivet on plates that old q used to issue.
>
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 12:51 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>
>> Cheers Jim,
>>
>> Good point.  I have forgotten it was as late as 1998 SVA came in.  Both
>> kits I built myself were early 2000’s and SVA’ed.  My Coupe (which I did
>> not build) has a single 1986 age.  On the tax free issue, you get road tax
>> online. And you have to apply for it as usual but pay nothing.  So I sort
>> of assume that if the reg date is 40 year or more ago you pay nothing with
>> no human intervention?
>>
>> Interestingly my chassis number is a long format one but I was allowed to
>> rivet a pre-stamped plate on the 2+2 frame and another on the fibreglass
>> body.  That was Aberdeen in 2001.  My Blackjack Avion number came moulded
>> into the fibreglass body tub.  That was 2004.
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On 24 Jan 2020, at 12:41, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>
>> >I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
>>
>> Except for the Xtreme’s
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jim Hearne
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 12:40 PM
>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?
>>
>> I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
>> My 2+2 is probably the closed pre-SVA, i took the paperwork down to the
>> local VRO office the evening of the very last day before the SVA came into
>> force in 1998
>> My 2+2 is a B reg, not the donor reg but another allocated one. It has 2
>> dates on the registration, 1985 (donor age) and 1998 (registration date).
>>
>> The trouble was all the different VRO offices had different
>> interpretations of the rules.
>> Mine let me have the chassis number as Q2-099 but i know many other VRO
>> said it had to be a minimum length.
>> I was also allowed to have my chassis plate screwed on, other VRO
>> insisted the chassis number was stamped into the spaceframe.
>>
>> A lot of older kit cars were still registered as the donor car, for quite
>> a while you could get it corrected by the DVLA without a problem but
>> nowadays it’s a lot of hassle.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Derek Clews
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 12:25 PM
>> *To:* Quantum Owners Forum
>> *Cc:* Derek Clews
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?
>>
>> Hi Daren,
>>
>> Thanks for the info.  That would seems to indicate it is the reg doc date.
>>
>> My Q 2+2 which I built was SVA’ed and given a first registered 2001 as a
>> Quantum but age related plate due to donor parts qualifying as 1989.  So
>> which age is zero tax reference?
>>
>> Were the older Q’ss even pre SVA?  I know there was some issue about a
>> few kit cars that were not registered correctly as the Kit type they
>> became.  But my Cou

Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

[Darren Siepka]

To change the log book you need to apply for tax in the post office.
Complete section 7 tax class, change to historic.
They will give you your free tax disc and send off the logbook to be
changed.

All three of my quantum only have a single date of registration.all are
correctly registered as the appropriate quantum type.
On one there is a note on front page in sect3 special notes: states 1.kit
built converted- assembled from parts all of which may not be new.

There are no other notes or comments.
My saloon is dated 85 , one 2-2 86 and one is 78.
I don't know about the other two but the 78 2-2 I built and kept its doner
reg in full
They all only have simple rivet on plates that old q used to issue.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 12:51 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> Cheers Jim,
>
> Good point.  I have forgotten it was as late as 1998 SVA came in.  Both
> kits I built myself were early 2000’s and SVA’ed.  My Coupe (which I did
> not build) has a single 1986 age.  On the tax free issue, you get road tax
> online. And you have to apply for it as usual but pay nothing.  So I sort
> of assume that if the reg date is 40 year or more ago you pay nothing with
> no human intervention?
>
> Interestingly my chassis number is a long format one but I was allowed to
> rivet a pre-stamped plate on the 2+2 frame and another on the fibreglass
> body.  That was Aberdeen in 2001.  My Blackjack Avion number came moulded
> into the fibreglass body tub.  That was 2004.
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 24 Jan 2020, at 12:41, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
> >I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
>
> Except for the Xtreme’s
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Jim Hearne
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 12:40 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?
>
> I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
> My 2+2 is probably the closed pre-SVA, i took the paperwork down to the
> local VRO office the evening of the very last day before the SVA came into
> force in 1998
> My 2+2 is a B reg, not the donor reg but another allocated one. It has 2
> dates on the registration, 1985 (donor age) and 1998 (registration date).
>
> The trouble was all the different VRO offices had different
> interpretations of the rules.
> Mine let me have the chassis number as Q2-099 but i know many other VRO
> said it had to be a minimum length.
> I was also allowed to have my chassis plate screwed on, other VRO insisted
> the chassis number was stamped into the spaceframe.
>
> A lot of older kit cars were still registered as the donor car, for quite
> a while you could get it corrected by the DVLA without a problem but
> nowadays it’s a lot of hassle.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* Derek Clews
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2020 12:25 PM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Forum
> *Cc:* Derek Clews
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?
>
> Hi Daren,
>
> Thanks for the info.  That would seems to indicate it is the reg doc date.
>
> My Q 2+2 which I built was SVA’ed and given a first registered 2001 as a
> Quantum but age related plate due to donor parts qualifying as 1989.  So
> which age is zero tax reference?
>
> Were the older Q’ss even pre SVA?  I know there was some issue about a few
> kit cars that were not registered correctly as the Kit type they became.
> But my Coupe certainly is registered as a Quantum, but just 1986 still.  My
> Son’s Coupe is a Q plate, but registered to donor date.  So many
> combinations.  If the reference is the plate a Q can never be tax free as
> there is not associated age, but the 2+2 is only 9 years away from tax
> free.  If it is the reg doc date new ball game and Q’s can be tax exempt.
>
> Derek
>
> On 24 Jan 2020, at 09:06, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Hi, yes my 2+2 has already gone over her 40.
> She was a pre sva build on an s plate
> There are no notes on the v5 showing when it was converted to a Quantum.
> The area around q reg is very confusing , with some saying they have and
> some not.
> Darren
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 08:38 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I understand that after a rolling 40 years your car is classic tax
>> exempt.  In the next few years are any of our Quantums falling into that
>> category?  I realised one of my Q’s is registered as 1986.  Must be the
>> original donor date……….. but that’s what is on the document.  Does anyone
>> know what happens about Q plate cars do they also get the tax exempt?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

[Darren Siepka]

Hi, yes my 2+2 has already gone over her 40.
She was a pre sva build on an s plate
There are no notes on the v5 showing when it was converted to a Quantum.
The area around q reg is very confusing , with some saying they have and
some not.
Darren


On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 08:38 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I understand that after a rolling 40 years your car is classic tax
> exempt.  In the next few years are any of our Quantums falling into that
> category?  I realised one of my Q’s is registered as 1986.  Must be the
> original donor date……….. but that’s what is on the document.  Does anyone
> know what happens about Q plate cars do they also get the tax exempt?
>
> Cheers
>
> Derek
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon Rear Suspension

[Darren Siepka]

I'm not sure you need a tank, certainly not a big one if you do, my D2
disco has no tank and can readjust height pretty quick enough.
I would love to do the fronts too but the bags for struts are big money! I
am looking to find  some OEM rear bags if possible as they are much much
cheaper than aftermarket ones!


On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, 19:41 chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I thought about air aswell, but I couldn’t find anywhere to put the tank
> as I still had to fit a drum kit in !!
>
> I looked at this lot;
>
>
> https://airride.co.uk/air/product-category/air-suspension-kits-for-cars/ford-air-suspension-kits-for-cars/fiesta/
>
> Chris G
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2019 6:51 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon Rear Suspension
>
> I have always been unhappy with the rear of my saloon, get the pose right
> and you can't have anyone on the rear seats, and visa versa.
> So I have recently been looking at air bag options.
> My idea is to have the bags down when standing and pump up as required for
> extra support or clearance on the go.
>
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019, 12:44 chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> KYB Rear springs;
>>
>> XR2RA5289 Diam 10.5 mm   Length 265 mm
>>
>> 1 - 1.4 L  RA5045 Diam 10 mm Length 307 mm
>>
>> Van/1.6DRA5288 Diam 11 mmLength 295 mm
>>
>> Here’s the catalog I use.
>>
>> https://kyb-europecom/catalogue/ <https://kyb-europe.com/catalogue/>
>>
>> Chris G
>>
>>
>> *From:* John R 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 14, 2019 10:52 AM
>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Re: Saloon Rear Suspension
>>
>> Paul, Chris, Jim - thanks for info
>>
>> I will probably get a chance to look at the rear suspension coming week.
>> Will get springs off and measure.
>> Anyone know what the free lengths and ratings are of these standard Ford
>> sprngs? I see Burton have some alternative spings but do not list rating of
>> standard springs.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 8:44:17 AM UTC+1, John R wrote:
>>>
>>> What rear springs do folks recommend?
>>>
>>> My rear ride height seems too high - much bigger gap between the arch
>>> and tyre at rear than the front. I have noticed same on pictures of other
>>> saloons. Wondering if this is a design feature or wrong length springs have
>>> been fitted at some point.
>>>
>>> The build manual recommends soft 1100 springs. Mine was built using a
>>> mk2 XR2 donor (shorter stiffer springs?) but these may well have been
>>> changed since original build.
>>>
>>> The car handles ok but to me the stance does not "look right" as is.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] R.I.P H4

[Darren Siepka]

My searching has come up a blank on images of the chassis so anyone with
any snaps would be greatly appreciated.



On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, 21:35 bill,  wrote:

> I’ve seen pictures of the chassis so there are some out there, as for the
> log book, it’s not been requested and when the informed me it would be
> written off they did say there was no structural damage so it could be put
> back on the road without any issue.
> Bill
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 24 Aug 2019, at 10:41, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Are there any pictures of the bare chassis? Or anyone got any?
>
> Bill, did the insurance put any category marks on the logbook at all?
>
> Darren
>
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, 12:36 Jim Hearne,  wrote:
>
>> I would call it a chassis as you could bolt the suspension and engine
>> onto it and drive it around with none of the fibreglass in place.
>> IMO the fibreglass on a H4 adds zero strength to the chassis.
>>
>> Oh, and don’t roll one, the steel tube inside the windscreen surround
>> isn’t fixed to the chassis at all, it’s just fibreglassed to the inside of
>> the front wings.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> *From:* Darren Siepka
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2019 12:18 PM
>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] R.I.P H4
>>
>> So just curious,
>> Is the steel chassis on a h4 it's chassis or is the body counted part of
>> it too thus a monocoque?
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, 11:09 bill,  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve had a couple of hours this morning working on the front end, I’ve
>>> removed the bumper, straightened out all the brackets and lined up the
>>> damage bodywork, a fibreglass repair kit will be purchased and repairs will
>>> continue as I get time, meantime it’s still for sale
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On 20 Aug 2019, at 10:30, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Bill, Where is the car and what engine does it have ?
>>> >
>>> > Jim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 19/08/2019 09:11, bill wrote:
>>> >> Now the dust has settled and the insurance company has sorted the
>>> claim for the car out I’ve had to decide what to do with the remains.
>>> Looking at the car it doesn’t seem too bad, mainly a pair of bumpers and a
>>> bit of fibreglass matting and a radiator could see it up and away, but I’ve
>>> enough other projects to keep me busy so I’ve decided to sell. I thought
>>> about the region of £495 .
>>> >> Any questions please get in touch.
>>> >> Bill
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >
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Re: [Quantum Owners] R.I.P H4

[Darren Siepka]

Are there any pictures of the bare chassis? Or anyone got any?

Bill, did the insurance put any category marks on the logbook at all?

Darren

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, 12:36 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> I would call it a chassis as you could bolt the suspension and engine onto
> it and drive it around with none of the fibreglass in place.
> IMO the fibreglass on a H4 adds zero strength to the chassis.
>
> Oh, and don’t roll one, the steel tube inside the windscreen surround
> isn’t fixed to the chassis at all, it’s just fibreglassed to the inside of
> the front wings.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* Darren Siepka
> *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2019 12:18 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] R.I.P H4
>
> So just curious,
> Is the steel chassis on a h4 it's chassis or is the body counted part of
> it too thus a monocoque?
>
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, 11:09 bill,  wrote:
>
>> I’ve had a couple of hours this morning working on the front end, I’ve
>> removed the bumper, straightened out all the brackets and lined up the
>> damage bodywork, a fibreglass repair kit will be purchased and repairs will
>> continue as I get time, meantime it’s still for sale
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On 20 Aug 2019, at 10:30, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Bill, Where is the car and what engine does it have ?
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 19/08/2019 09:11, bill wrote:
>> >> Now the dust has settled and the insurance company has sorted the
>> claim for the car out I’ve had to decide what to do with the remains.
>> Looking at the car it doesn’t seem too bad, mainly a pair of bumpers and a
>> bit of fibreglass matting and a radiator could see it up and away, but I’ve
>> enough other projects to keep me busy so I’ve decided to sell. I thought
>> about the region of £495 .
>> >> Any questions please get in touch.
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >
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Re: [Quantum Owners] R.I.P H4

[Darren Siepka]

So just curious,
Is the steel chassis on a h4 it's chassis or is the body counted part of it
too thus a monocoque?

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019, 11:09 bill,  wrote:

> I’ve had a couple of hours this morning working on the front end, I’ve
> removed the bumper, straightened out all the brackets and lined up the
> damage bodywork, a fibreglass repair kit will be purchased and repairs will
> continue as I get time, meantime it’s still for sale
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 20 Aug 2019, at 10:30, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bill, Where is the car and what engine does it have ?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >> On 19/08/2019 09:11, bill wrote:
> >> Now the dust has settled and the insurance company has sorted the claim
> for the car out I’ve had to decide what to do with the remains. Looking at
> the car it doesn’t seem too bad, mainly a pair of bumpers and a bit of
> fibreglass matting and a radiator could see it up and away, but I’ve enough
> other projects to keep me busy so I’ve decided to sell. I thought about the
> region of £495 .
> >> Any questions please get in touch.
> >> Bill
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Adrian Flux...

[Darren Siepka]

This sounds like they use the finance house like I used to do with certain
clients when I was selling IT installs.
The finance house used to pay me in full on the day they signed up, then
the client paid the finance house and was nothing to do with me. Saved me
the headache of chasing a bad payer!
I suspect fluxes has been paid in full already and don't want to reimburse
the finance people!
Pretty poor show and very unprofessional !

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 23:14 Susan and Martin Scott, <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> May I ask why you want to cancel the policy with them and then move to
> another provider? (other than moving away from AF)
> I take this opportunity to add that I moved away from them when my renewal
> came a few years ago. They failed to provide agreed value paperwork after 3
> months (despite them insisting I provided paperwork to them within 14
> days... I provided it within 7 days). If Steve Kodz hadn't assisted I don't
> think it would ever have been resolved.
> Martin
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Niall McCracken 
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:43 PM
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Adrian Flux...
>
> I have had an extremely unsavoury exchange with Adrian Flux today
> regarding cancelling my Quantum Insurance.
>
>  I'm trying to cancel 6 months through a policy and I'm paying for it
> monthly. They've told me that the only way I can cancel is by paying the
> entire remaining 6 months of the policy upfront. I argued that if they
> aren't providing a service they can't possibly charge for it. They reason
> this is because the policy and the payment for the policy are completely
> unconnected. The "credit agreement" is unconnected to the policy and simply
> has to be paid no matter what irrespective of what happens to the actual
> policy. This seems fairly insane to me. The extremely - extremely rude and
> aggressive person at Adrian Flux told me that it was explained when I took
> the policy out that I wasn't entitled to any refund; I said I didn't want
> any refund I just wanted to cancel the policy. She said this actually meant
> a refund from the total amount of credit I had taken out irrespective of
> what happens.
> She then, when not shouting over me tried to explain my consumer rights
> and advised "strongly" against complaining to the FSA or Ombudsman as it
> would be a "waste of time". Effectively this means I can't cancel the
> insurance on my Quantum, leaving it impossible for anyone else to insure it.
> I may be being a bit naïve here but I have never, ever, heard of a credit
> agreement for insurance operating in this way. Is it just me or does that
> sound completely bonkers?
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum due for crushing today.

[Darren Siepka]

Had it been closer I would have had it and stored it for the club until a
new owner or parts were needed.
But it's miles away :-(

On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, 11:11 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUANTUM-MK1-COUPE-FORD-FIESTA-DIESEL-BASED-RARE-BARN-FIND-KIT-CLASSIC-KIT-CAR/254253449594?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D1509cd87ae8b413388f88ba87743e9ff%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D264331881696%26itm%3D254253449594&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
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> Actually a Mk2 saloon but due to be crushed today if not bought :-(
>
> Jim
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Driving QSC for 25 years . . .

[Darren Siepka]

Funny you suggest that as it was one idea a friend suggested when I looked
at the conversion.
He suggested using a rear axle from a gwiz for sub 5 mile or so hops or in
traffic shunting, just using the original ice up front at other times or to
charge the battery's extra(I already have a 280a alternator fitted due to
the electric heater system booster)

On Sat, 11 May 2019, 14:49 michaelhughes7a via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Until the point when i.c. engines are banned in Amsterdam it seems
> possible that LPG might be the easiest solution to the problem faced by
> Hans.
>
> In considering electric propulsion has the possibility of using  electric
> power to the rear wheels, with a range suited only to inner city use, been
> overlooked.  With recharging from the mains at home and at the
> office/workshop and the use of drive systems already developed for motor
> scooters or motorbikes costs might be relatively low.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Darren Siepka 
> To: quantumowners 
> Sent: Sat, 11 May 2019 10:11
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Driving QSC for 25 years . . .
>
> As nice as the electric power idea is the cost is to be honest
> prohibitive!
> I costed converting one of our 2+2 to use for the school run ( 4mile round
> trip twice a day!) And even that would have a long break even time!  :-(
> As Derek says the time to get political may be coming! These politicians
> make these policies but just assume we all want to follow along and can
> afford to do so!
> Best regards
> Darren
>
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2019, 09:54 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> That is terrible.  Kit cars are enthusiast cars and the interest keeps
> engineering skills alive.  I thought recycling cars and their parts was
> very green.  There is more energy consumed in making than running a car.
> Is there no exemption you can apply for?  If not maybe you need to get
> political and make one happen.  There are classic car dealers and owners in
> holland (and Europe generally) so it may be time to get active withe the
> government.  It has to be an issue with a lot of people if you cast the net
> wide enough.
>
> Otherwise you could get an out of town location for the cars and move them
> out.  But I can see that may not be possible.  Electric may be your best
> bet.  Some in the QOC are trying electric conversions, so they are best
> placed to tell you about that.  The usual 'tin box route' costs a fortune
> to own as you say.
>
> Are all the boats going electric as well?
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
> On 11 May 2019, at 00:12, Hans Defauwes  wrote:.
>
> I enjoy & drive QSC ‘s for more than 25 years . . .
>
> I own a red Coupe (ex Eddy’s car) and a white LHD 2+2 (ex demonstrator)
> but for how long ??
> I have lots of spare/new service  parts so I can service/fix them on the
> spot when needed.
>
> They never saw a garage form the inside. I build/service/maintain them
> myself incl. engine rebuilds.
>
> I have saved some money to spray and refurbish the coupe and get the 2+2
> out of storage (recent engine rebuild) and fix the damaged sill/door this
> summer.
>
> But this plan goes down the drain
>
> Thanks to the Left “green” Amsterdam municipality I soon can’t drive to my
> workshop with my QSC’s
> They ban any car/diesel less than Euro4 emissions beginning 2020, banning
> non electric commercial van’s & mopeds by 2025 and any combustion engine
> vehicle by 2030.
> Other cities want to follow this path to ban combustion vehicles.
>
> How to go to work and maintain the QSC’s – if I can’t drive to my workshop.
>
> 1 convert to Electric – very expensive & low range
>
> 2 Convert the QSC logbook to Euro6 with a 1.0 Ecoboost engine
> The Dutch RDW = DVLA is very reluctant with information on how to change
> the logbook to Euro6.
> It seems I need to do an expensive individual emission and safety test by
> TNO (applied scientific research).
> Need a  very recent low milage/new 1.0 Ecoboost donor car for the engine,
> gearbox, wire loom etc. modify driveshaft's, etc. etc.
> Probably need some re-engineering work. This costs much more than I saved
> so far
>
> 3 buy a tin car 
> I hate rust 
>
> After 25+ years my QSC hobby ends unexpected and far to early.
>
> There is a very small kit car market in The Netherlands. So selling my
> QSC’s will be difficult.
> In the current state, both need body work, they will not be worth very
> much.
> The car dismantling company’s (scrap heap) don't want them due to the
> fiber body
> I can sell the spare parts to ford lovers – there are less than 80
> registered fiesta MK2 XR2 left in

Re: [Quantum Owners] Driving QSC for 25 years . . .

[Darren Siepka]

As much as using a car for the school run pains me, my health prohibits me
from any other option :-(

Hans issue sounds similar to that a few have mentioned some UK towns
following too.

On Sat, 11 May 2019, 12:37 Matthew Wastell,  wrote:

> It’s not quite true that making a car causes more emissions than running
> one. Assuming a 100k life manufacture is somewhere 20-30% of the life
> emissions.  Of course life is down to use.  Search for the toyota study if
> you are interested. Plenty of people have also corroborated the maths and
> assumptions.
>
> Electric is the future and there are more and more conversion solutions
> around the corner.   Doesn’t help Hans right now however you aren’t going
> to change these policies.  So you need to find a solution for yourself.
>
> As to 2 mile school run, why not cycle?  ;-)
>
> Boats will be wind powered. It’s the future, ahem.
>
>
>
> On 11 May 2019, at 10:11, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> As nice as the electric power idea is the cost is to be honest
> prohibitive!
> I costed converting one of our 2+2 to use for the school run ( 4mile round
> trip twice a day!) And even that would have a long break even time!  :-(
> As Derek says the time to get political may be coming! These politicians
> make these policies but just assume we all want to follow along and can
> afford to do so!
> Best regards
> Darren
>
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2019, 09:54 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> That is terrible.  Kit cars are enthusiast cars and the interest keeps
>> engineering skills alive.  I thought recycling cars and their parts was
>> very green.  There is more energy consumed in making than running a car.
>> Is there no exemption you can apply for?  If not maybe you need to get
>> political and make one happen.  There are classic car dealers and owners in
>> holland (and Europe generally) so it may be time to get active withe the
>> government.  It has to be an issue with a lot of people if you cast the net
>> wide enough.
>>
>> Otherwise you could get an out of town location for the cars and move
>> them out.  But I can see that may not be possible.  Electric may be your
>> best bet.  Some in the QOC are trying electric conversions, so they are
>> best placed to tell you about that.  The usual 'tin box route' costs a
>> fortune to own as you say.
>>
>> Are all the boats going electric as well?
>>
>> ATB
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11 May 2019, at 00:12, Hans Defauwes  wrote:.
>>
>>
>> I enjoy & drive QSC ‘s for more than 25 years . . .
>>
>> I own a red Coupe (ex Eddy’s car) and a white LHD 2+2 (ex demonstrator)
>> but for how long ??
>> I have lots of spare/new service  parts so I can service/fix them on the
>> spot when needed.
>>
>> They never saw a garage form the inside. I build/service/maintain them
>> myself incl. engine rebuilds.
>>
>> I have saved some money to spray and refurbish the coupe and get the 2+2
>> out of storage (recent engine rebuild) and fix the damaged sill/door this
>> summer.
>>
>> But this plan goes down the drain
>>
>> Thanks to the Left “green” Amsterdam municipality I soon can’t drive to
>> my workshop with my QSC’s
>> They ban any car/diesel less than Euro4 emissions beginning 2020, banning
>> non electric commercial van’s & mopeds by 2025 and any combustion engine
>> vehicle by 2030.
>> Other cities want to follow this path to ban combustion vehicles.
>>
>> How to go to work and maintain the QSC’s – if I can’t drive to my
>> workshop.
>>
>> 1 convert to Electric – very expensive & low range
>>
>> 2 Convert the QSC logbook to Euro6 with a 1.0 Ecoboost engine
>> The Dutch RDW = DVLA is very reluctant with information on how to change
>> the logbook to Euro6.
>> It seems I need to do an expensive individual emission and safety test by
>> TNO (applied scientific research).
>> Need a  very recent low milage/new 1.0 Ecoboost donor car for the engine,
>> gearbox, wire loom etc. modify driveshaft's, etc. etc.
>> Probably need some re-engineering work. This costs much more than I saved
>> so far
>>
>> 3 buy a tin car 
>> I hate rust 
>>
>> After 25+ years my QSC hobby ends unexpected and far to early.
>>
>> There is a very small kit car market in The Netherlands. So selling my
>> QSC’s will be difficult.
>> In the current state, both need body work, they will not be worth very
>> much.
>> The car dismantling company’s (scrap heap) don't want them due to the
>> fiber body
>> I ca

Re: [Quantum Owners] Driving QSC for 25 years . . .

[Darren Siepka]

As nice as the electric power idea is the cost is to be honest prohibitive!
I costed converting one of our 2+2 to use for the school run ( 4mile round
trip twice a day!) And even that would have a long break even time!  :-(
As Derek says the time to get political may be coming! These politicians
make these policies but just assume we all want to follow along and can
afford to do so!
Best regards
Darren


On Sat, 11 May 2019, 09:54 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> That is terrible.  Kit cars are enthusiast cars and the interest keeps
> engineering skills alive.  I thought recycling cars and their parts was
> very green.  There is more energy consumed in making than running a car.
> Is there no exemption you can apply for?  If not maybe you need to get
> political and make one happen.  There are classic car dealers and owners in
> holland (and Europe generally) so it may be time to get active withe the
> government.  It has to be an issue with a lot of people if you cast the net
> wide enough.
>
> Otherwise you could get an out of town location for the cars and move them
> out.  But I can see that may not be possible.  Electric may be your best
> bet.  Some in the QOC are trying electric conversions, so they are best
> placed to tell you about that.  The usual 'tin box route' costs a fortune
> to own as you say.
>
> Are all the boats going electric as well?
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
> On 11 May 2019, at 00:12, Hans Defauwes  wrote:.
>
> I enjoy & drive QSC ‘s for more than 25 years . . .
>
> I own a red Coupe (ex Eddy’s car) and a white LHD 2+2 (ex demonstrator)
> but for how long ??
> I have lots of spare/new service  parts so I can service/fix them on the
> spot when needed.
>
> They never saw a garage form the inside. I build/service/maintain them
> myself incl. engine rebuilds.
>
> I have saved some money to spray and refurbish the coupe and get the 2+2
> out of storage (recent engine rebuild) and fix the damaged sill/door this
> summer.
>
> But this plan goes down the drain
>
> Thanks to the Left “green” Amsterdam municipality I soon can’t drive to my
> workshop with my QSC’s
> They ban any car/diesel less than Euro4 emissions beginning 2020, banning
> non electric commercial van’s & mopeds by 2025 and any combustion engine
> vehicle by 2030.
> Other cities want to follow this path to ban combustion vehicles.
>
> How to go to work and maintain the QSC’s – if I can’t drive to my workshop.
>
> 1 convert to Electric – very expensive & low range
>
> 2 Convert the QSC logbook to Euro6 with a 1.0 Ecoboost engine
> The Dutch RDW = DVLA is very reluctant with information on how to change
> the logbook to Euro6.
> It seems I need to do an expensive individual emission and safety test by
> TNO (applied scientific research).
> Need a  very recent low milage/new 1.0 Ecoboost donor car for the engine,
> gearbox, wire loom etc. modify driveshaft's, etc. etc.
> Probably need some re-engineering work. This costs much more than I saved
> so far
>
> 3 buy a tin car 
> I hate rust 
>
> After 25+ years my QSC hobby ends unexpected and far to early.
>
> There is a very small kit car market in The Netherlands. So selling my
> QSC’s will be difficult.
> In the current state, both need body work, they will not be worth very
> much.
> The car dismantling company’s (scrap heap) don't want them due to the
> fiber body
> I can sell the spare parts to ford lovers – there are less than 80
> registered fiesta MK2 XR2 left in The Netherlands . . .
>
> Hans
>
> ps who knows I might win the lottery
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Darren Siepka]

Are the rears solid or vented? I found my 280odd cosworth vented rears keep
glazing up and never get hot on the road no matter how I drove ! The 280
cougar fronts work fab though.
300mm would need 16" + iirc ?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you
> using?
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker  wrote:
>
> I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc,
> with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist
> unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and
> rear disc conversion.
> However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since
> fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour
> yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single
>> piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot
>> system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force.
>> I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
>> everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just
>> looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking
>> horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather
>> have a more performance focused set up.
>> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
>> standard servo and master cylinder.
>>
>>
>> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[Darren Siepka]

Yeouch! That's something I want to avoid.
I lost a bit when I took my other 2+2 subframe off but it too much.

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 18:56 'Mark Jones' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> If i remember correctly, one  of the members recommended scoring the glue
> and pouring white spirit onto it and leaving it a good while, then repeat
> until it comes away from the tub. I don’t know if it works as I had already
> pulled mine off along with copious amounts of gelcoat...
> Thankfully Eddie was on hand to sort out my mess!!!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:47, Derek Clews  wrote:
> >
> > H Daren
> >
> > I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have
> conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this
> winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to
> pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the
> powder coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then
> I was expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then
> some sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.
> >
> > If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld
> repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but
> did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future
> possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Derek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
> >>
> >> Just checking if my memory is correct.
> >>
> >> To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to
> save the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air
> gun?
> >>
> >> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal

[Darren Siepka]

The wire idea is a good one, I wonder if mig wire might work?
On the bulkhead the powder coat is still pretty strong but elsewhere is
mostly blown.
Derek ,I don't want to say to much about the suspension changes for now but
if it works out then it will majorly help with future parts source and
maintenance.watch this space

Darren


On Sun, 31 Mar 2019, 17:17 Susan and Martin Scott, <
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> Whatever you do (paint or coating) Hammerite is best avoided.
>
> Martin
> - Original Message -
> From: "Derek Clews" 
> To: "Quantum Owners Forum" 
> Cc: "Derek Clews" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Subframe removal
>
>
> H Daren
>
> I have been thinking of doing mine for a few years now, but events have
> conspired against me.  So the current plan is to SORN the 2+2 over this
> winter.  I have been saving up some old guitar strings to use as a wire to
> pull through and cut the glue where necessary.  I am wondering if the
> powder
> coat will easily pull away from the metal of the frame anyway. Then I was
> expecting to be able to cut the adhesive back using a blade and then some
> sandpaper to finish.   It would be interesting to see how you get on.
>
> If the frame is bad, are quantum doing replacements?  Or is it just weld
> repair time?  I plan to stick with the CVH for the foreseeable future, but
> did wonder if I should alter the frame for Zetec anyway as a future
> possibility for someone else, if not me.  What are you doing on that?
>
> Cheers
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
> > On 31 Mar 2019, at 15:32, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
> >
> > Just checking if my memory is correct.
> >
> > To remove the front subframe on a 2+2 that was factory glued on, to save
> > the gelcoat from splitting was the technique to warm with a hot air gun?
> >
> > Darren
> >
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Darren Siepka]

Many moons ago when I did a 4pot conversion to a mini , I had to bleed the
front brakes with the calipers off the car as they had to be manipulated
due to the bleed screw being in the wrong place. If you didn't you had no
pedal due to a air pocket in the caliper

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 13:22 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
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> Single pot Darren.
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 25 Mar 2019, at 13:20, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Were they single pot escort / Sierra 4x4 cosworth or 2wd Sierra 4pot
> cosworth calipers?
> I have the 4x4 single pot front with Peugeot single pot rears on my saloon
> ( this is with the current escort MC)
>
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 13:13 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin,
>> Not sure about the areas but the Cosworth calipers are certainly bigger
>> than the original XR2 ones were and worked ok. The Hispec 4 pots are
>> smaller diameter but spread over a larger pad area to give more even
>> pressure.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On 24 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Susan and Martin Scott <
>> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ignoring the fluid change. What is the combined area of the pistons
>> compared to the previous single ones?  I may know an alternative, but it
>> depends what the requirements are. It could be that a larger bore master
>> cylinder is needed, but some dimensions will be needed to calculate.
>> > Martin
>> > - Original Message - From: "'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners
>> Group" 
>> > To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:39 PM
>> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
>> >
>> >
>> > After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single
>> piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot
>> system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force.
>> I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
>> everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just
>> looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking
>> horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather
>> have a more performance focused set up.
>> > Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
>> standard servo and master cylinder.
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Darren Siepka]

Were they single pot escort / Sierra 4x4 cosworth or 2wd Sierra 4pot
cosworth calipers?
I have the 4x4 single pot front with Peugeot single pot rears on my saloon
( this is with the current escort MC)

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 13:13 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
> Not sure about the areas but the Cosworth calipers are certainly bigger
> than the original XR2 ones were and worked ok. The Hispec 4 pots are
> smaller diameter but spread over a larger pad area to give more even
> pressure.
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 24 Mar 2019, at 22:53, Susan and Martin Scott <
> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Ignoring the fluid change. What is the combined area of the pistons
> compared to the previous single ones?  I may know an alternative, but it
> depends what the requirements are. It could be that a larger bore master
> cylinder is needed, but some dimensions will be needed to calculate.
> > Martin
> > - Original Message - From: "'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners
> Group" 
> > To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:39 PM
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
> >
> >
> > After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single
> piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot
> system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force.
> I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
> everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just
> looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking
> horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather
> have a more performance focused set up.
> > Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
> standard servo and master cylinder.
> >
> >
> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
> >
> > Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Darren Siepka]

Whilst comparing setups for my swap I wondered how much effort we loose in
the plastic bushes too, especially at the servo end with the shortest arm.
The mg crossbar has needle roller bearings supporting both ends of the
crossbar! This will surely help frictional losses.i wonder if similar could
be done for the original fiesta setup?

Darren

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 09:13 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> I had the same problem when i put Willwood 4 pot calipers on my 2+2, that
> has the early brake setup.
>
> There are 2 different brake pedals with the hole for the bar that goes
> through the bulkhead in different places, one gives you more pressure on
> the
> master cylinder but at the expense of more pedal travel.
> I may have a picture somewhere.
> I drilled another hole in the already better option pedal , even higher
> up,
> this helped with the pressure but gave more pedal travel.
>
> It certainly stops now, i did a couple of track days in it.
> I also have a feeling that the brake pads either glazed or weren't the
> best
> material choice, i bought another set of a more road spec but never got
> around to fitting them to see if they made a difference.
>
> I thought i may have been loosing travel with the servo brackets flexing
> so
> i plated in the open sides and strengthened to ends, but this made no
> difference.
> You can also adjust the pushrod in the servo to remove any play before the
> pushrod contacts the end of the master cylinder.
> But, be careful with this, i got it too close and it wasn't letting the
> master cylinder fully retract.
> This had the effect that as the fluid got hot it gradually applied the
> brakes, not so good.
>
> What bore is your master cylinder ?, it should be stamped on the side.
>
> I know anything with a bias bar won't pass an IVA test unless it's welded
> up
> but not sure if it's an MOT failure.
> Also, without a servo you will need some muscles.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:39 PM
> To: Quantum Owners Group
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
>
> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston
> calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I
> can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged
> all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
> everything.
> I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at
> options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo
> these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more
> performance focused set up.
> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
> standard servo and master cylinder.
>
>
> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>
> Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Darren Siepka]

If all goes well with the 2+2 conversion then yes the saloon will be
getting the same mgf conversion too, but it won't be till later in the
summer when it gets its new engine and autobox.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 19:37 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Darren,
> That's an interesting MG conversion. Will your Escort parts be available
> or are you keeping them? Just weighing up options at the moment. Burton
> also do a floor mounted pedal box which would completely do away with all
> the Ford parts but it's pricey.
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 24 Mar 2019, at 18:20, Darren Siepka  wrote:
>
> Should say escort servo!
>
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 18:20 Darren Siepka,  wrote:
>
>> I have the escort service upgrade on my saloon ( documented on the club
>> site)
>> I am currently fitting a mgf servo ( with pedals and crossbar) and master
>> cylinder in place of my later type servo etc to my 2+2 I hope to fit the
>> abs too :-)
>> That master cylinder is available in non abs too. It copes with rear
>> calipers and up to 4 pot ap calipers up front the plenty of fluid.
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:57 Susan and Martin Scott, <
>> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Did you have dot 3 fluid in originally? If any fluid (other than 5.1)
>>> has
>>> been used with the brake parts the seals won't last long if the fluid is
>>> then changed to 5.1. due to fluid incompatibilty.
>>> Martin Scott
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group"
>>> 
>>> To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:39 PM
>>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
>>>
>>>
>>> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single
>>> piston
>>> calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I
>>> can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I
>>> purged
>>> all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
>>> everything.
>>> I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at
>>> options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo
>>> these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a
>>> more
>>> performance focused set up.
>>> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
>>> standard servo and master cylinder.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>>>
>>> Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Darren Siepka]

Should say escort servo!

On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 18:20 Darren Siepka,  wrote:

> I have the escort service upgrade on my saloon ( documented on the club
> site)
> I am currently fitting a mgf servo ( with pedals and crossbar) and master
> cylinder in place of my later type servo etc to my 2+2 I hope to fit the
> abs too :-)
> That master cylinder is available in non abs too. It copes with rear
> calipers and up to 4 pot ap calipers up front the plenty of fluid.
>
> Darren
>
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:57 Susan and Martin Scott, <
> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Did you have dot 3 fluid in originally? If any fluid (other than 5.1) has
>> been used with the brake parts the seals won't last long if the fluid is
>> then changed to 5.1. due to fluid incompatibilty.
>> Martin Scott
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group"
>> 
>> To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:39 PM
>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
>>
>>
>> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single
>> piston
>> calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I
>> can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I
>> purged
>> all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
>> everything.
>> I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at
>> options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo
>> these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more
>> performance focused set up.
>> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
>> standard servo and master cylinder.
>>
>>
>> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>>
>> Bob
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Darren Siepka]

I have the escort service upgrade on my saloon ( documented on the club
site)
I am currently fitting a mgf servo ( with pedals and crossbar) and master
cylinder in place of my later type servo etc to my 2+2 I hope to fit the
abs too :-)
That master cylinder is available in non abs too. It copes with rear
calipers and up to 4 pot ap calipers up front the plenty of fluid.

Darren

On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:57 Susan and Martin Scott, <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> Did you have dot 3 fluid in originally? If any fluid (other than 5.1) has
> been used with the brake parts the seals won't last long if the fluid is
> then changed to 5.1. due to fluid incompatibilty.
> Martin Scott
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group"
> 
> To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:39 PM
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions
>
>
> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston
> calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I
> can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged
> all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
> everything.
> I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at
> options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo
> these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more
> performance focused set up.
> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
> standard servo and master cylinder.
>
>
> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>
> Bob
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Mot

[Darren Siepka]

Yes I was thinking of not just never having a MOT but to perhaps get one
every two or three years.
My Q has just gone vhi but was built in 95, so missed the 30.
I do wonder if once the declaration is done then it won't be possible to go
back in 6 years and say hey now I don't want to MOT anymore ?

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 17:09 Susan and Martin Scott, <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> Pity I missed the exemption cutoff by 6 years else this would be it's one
> and only test needed :-(
>
> Maybe, maybe not? It's a bit of a grey area because the vehicle must have
>  "no major modification" and then there's the caveat  "inthe last 30
> years". Reading between the lines and other experience from users of 'Mad
> about Kitcars' it appears that if the vehicle's  VED class is  'Vehicle of
> Historic Interest' then (as long as there have been no major changes in 30
> years) it *may *be possible to get MOT exemption. My Rickman Space Ranger
> is VHI, but I don't know when it was converted from Ford Escort to the
> Rickman kit. As the Space ranger was a later model (I think earliest 1991)
> then I may try this exercise of MOT exemption in 2021.
> My intention isn't to avoid MOT, but to get  a bit of flexibility eg take
> it for MOT a little later (without a possible Police fine), or indeed once
> every 2 years as I only do about 4k per year. The car has to still be
> roadworthy of course.
> Martin
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Darren Siepka 
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:12 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Mot
>
> Thanks
> Do you have their contact details so I can book an MOT once I'm ready
> please?
> Pity I missed the exemption cutoff by 6 years else this would be it's one
> and only test needed :-(
>
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 14:59 rob hancock,  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> We do not do on site but we use a local garage who are very sensible
>> Regards rob
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, 10:35 dar...@siepka.me.uk, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know off hand if new quantum do onsite MOT?
>>> Just thought I'd ask here before ringing them.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Mot

[Darren Siepka]

Thanks
Do you have their contact details so I can book an MOT once I'm ready
please?
Pity I missed the exemption cutoff by 6 years else this would be it's one
and only test needed :-(

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> Hi
> We do not do on site but we use a local garage who are very sensible
> Regards rob
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>> Does anyone know off hand if new quantum do onsite MOT?
>> Just thought I'd ask here before ringing them.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 brake bits

[Darren Siepka]

Ok will do,

Also coming out is a five speed manual gearbox with selector. The engine
was a 1.8 turbo diesel but not sure what variant the box was fitted by old
Q.

Any interest again?
Darren

On Sat, 12 Jan 2019, 10:59 Sonia  Hi Darren
>
> You can contact us via club treasurer email - treasurer @
> quantumowners.club
>
> regards
>
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>
> On Friday, January 11, 2019 at 8:34:15 PM UTC, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
>>
>> Pm got bounced , please send me your contact email .
>> Thanks
>> Darren
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 20:32 Darren Siepka >
>>> Hi,
>>> Pm sent with further info.
>>> Darren
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 18:07 Sonia >>
>>>> Hi Darren
>>>>
>>>> Yes - we would be interested. How much do you want for the bits and
>>>> where are you,located
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Sonia
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 10:26:28 AM UTC, dar...@siepka.me.uk
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am shortly removing the complete servo,master cylinder,brake bar and
>>>>> pedals from my 2+2 as part of an upgrade,
>>>>> Offers anyone? I can arrange post( at your cost obviously)
>>>>> It is a late type cylinder.
>>>>> Wanted to try on here before they went on eBay.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also available are some leather front seats. They were retrimmed by
>>>>> the factory(original Q) when the 2+2 was built. I will have pictures of
>>>>> those soon as they are in storage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 brake bits

[Darren Siepka]

Pm got bounced , please send me your contact email .
Thanks
Darren

On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 20:32 Darren Siepka  Hi,
> Pm sent with further info.
> Darren
>
>
>
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 18:07 Sonia 
>> Hi Darren
>>
>> Yes - we would be interested. How much do you want for the bits and where
>> are you,located
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Sonia
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 8, 2019 at 10:26:28 AM UTC, dar...@siepka.me.uk
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am shortly removing the complete servo,master cylinder,brake bar and
>>> pedals from my 2+2 as part of an upgrade,
>>> Offers anyone? I can arrange post( at your cost obviously)
>>> It is a late type cylinder.
>>> Wanted to try on here before they went on eBay.
>>>
>>> Also available are some leather front seats. They were retrimmed by the
>>> factory(original Q) when the 2+2 was built. I will have pictures of those
>>> soon as they are in storage.
>>>
>>> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 brake bits

[Darren Siepka]

I am converting to mgtf brake servo,pedals and crossbar. Newer parts
cheaper and easier to obtain.
I am also going to experiment with the abs too.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2019, 11:03 Susan and Martin Scott <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk wrote:

> As Jim said, Pete and Sonia need a master cylinder - BTW what's the
> upgrade?
> Martin
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 10:26 AM
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 brake bits
>
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> I am shortly removing the complete servo,master cylinder,brake bar and
> pedals from my 2+2 as part of an upgrade,
> Offers anyone? I can arrange post( at your cost obviously)
> It is a late type cylinder.
> Wanted to try on here before they went on eBay.
>
> Also available are some leather front seats. They were retrimmed by the
> factory(original Q) when the 2+2 was built. I will have pictures of those
> soon as they are in storage.
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 (XR2) Master Brake Cylinder

[Darren Siepka]

That master cylinder conversion I did that is posted on the club site
worked very well and is still working fine even after the car was laid up
for 3yrs!

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, 18:00 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <
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> Pete,
>
> Have you checked out the club FAQ?  This might be of use?
>
>
> https://www.quantumowners.club/index.php/faq-qoc/27-faq-saloon/32-qoc-faq-saloon-brake-servo-upgrade
>
> Regards,
> Steve
> On 12/12/2018 17:28, Sonia wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the input so far. Misterauto do have the later one at £454!!!
> The earlier one is around £40, similar to price of earlier one on ebay.
> Don't understand why there is such a difference between early and late
> versions
>
> Anyway there is not room for the earlier one so does anyone know of
>
> a) whether there are different refurb kits for the earlier and later
> versions of the master cylinder, and if so how to tell which one I need
> b) something else that could be used, possibly with some re-routing of the
> brake pipe connections
>
> Sonia & Pete
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 4:53:38 PM UTC, Susan and Martin Scott
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure about whether the servo would need changing or not (I'll
>> defer to Chris's knowledge on that), but the pipework will need 'modifying
>> in length' (maybe not a huge issue) and possibly has different size (m10 or
>> m12) threaded ends - again not too big an issue. If fitting the larger
>> master cylinder, however I believe you would also need a different
>> distributor (ie smaller) as there isn't room.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group
>> *To:* quantu...@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:48 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 (XR2) Master Brake Cylinder
>>
>> I think you need the Girling version.
>>
>> TRW do one here
>> https://www.trwaftermarket.com/en/catalogue/product/PMH329/
>>
>> I paid around £ 350 for mine 6 years ago, but I believe others have since
>> found them cheaper.
>>
>> If you try to fit the long version then you will also need to change the
>> servo (black donut disc thing behind it) as the connections are different.
>>
>> Chris G
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sonia
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 12, 2018 12:18 PM
>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] 2+2 (XR2) Master Brake Cylinder
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Looking for advice on brake master cylinder on our 2+2 based on 1989 Mk2
>> XR2. Fluid is leaking badly from master cylinder so almost no brake pedal!
>> Got it to local garage (who I have used for nearly 20 years and trust) who
>> are having trouble locating a replacement part. Issue is Ford (bless 'em)
>> changed the master cylinder from 1986 when a 'rising servo' and shorter
>> master cylinder was fitted. Prior to that it was a longer cast item. The
>> earlier ones are readily available but with the rising servo (it points
>> more upwards) there isn't room for the longer master cylinder. The only
>> later cylinders we have found are on ebay and £350!!
>>
>> Refurbishment kits are available for about £15 which may fix our existing
>> cylinder but it is not clear whether there are separate kits for the early
>> and later cylinders
>>
>> So, does anyone
>>
>> a) know of a source of the later master brake cylinders at a more
>> sensible price
>> b) know if there is more than 1 refurbishment kit and how to tell which
>> is which
>> c) know of another master cylinder which would fit with minimal
>> additional effort
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Sonia & Pete
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Mondeo discs on an H4

[Darren Siepka]

If you measure the offset height and thickness of the discs you can compare
them to other ford discs in another companys brake disc catalog,
 I have cougar v6 discs but iirc they are 290mm

Darren

On Thu, 22 Nov 2018, 20:18 Julian Coleman  Hi
>
> I need to replace the front discs on the H4. The problem is these are not
> Fiesta originals, they are vented and grooved discs which are detailed as
> CRN 276mm, supplied by CRN performance. Sadly I can find no reference to
> CRN. The calipers are noted as Mondeo ST220.
>
> Can anyone shed any light on how to define a replacement pair of discs
> and/or source them? I'm not concerned about the grooving, I'm not racing
> this car. I need something that will fit without requiring major surgery.
>
> Also, while I'm at it, the handbrake cable has broken, it is now seemingly
> only working on one side. I'm assuming this is would be the Fiesta/donor
> original part, but it would be useful to have that confirmed. Assuming it
> is not modified or from something else, I should be able to get that bit.
>
> Thanks
>
> Julian Coleman
> City Audio Services
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Rear demist

[Darren Siepka]

You can get auxiliary heater units with integral blowers that connect to
the water system like the regular matrix does

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018, 22:55 Susan and Martin Scott, <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> I'd think by the time warm air went through ducting to the rear that all
> it's heat will be lost ? I'd go for an electric element / fan type setup
> either on the rear shelf or through some holes from the boot area (although
> strength has to me maintained in the panel?). I don't know if they exist,
> but a long coil of resistance wire near the base of the screen may provide
> enough rising heat to clear it, and be almost invisible - like a 12V bar
> out of an old electric fire!
> Martin
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group
> 
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2018 7:52 PM
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Rear demist
>
> Has anyone come up with a viable alternative to the useless (and always
> dying) demisting lines on the saloon rear window?
> I’m thinking either a demist kit (or 2) from ‘car builders solutions’ or
> some kind of ducting from the front heater box, with an in-pipe fan on a
> timer..that’s as far as I’ve got in the planning/trying-to-work-it-out
> stage.
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine

[Darren Siepka]

I have a electric heater matrix from a Volvo(but says fomoco) that fits
perfect under the water matrix for instant heat on those cold mornings.

For my 2+2 which is getting a Corsa c dash I have been looking to use a
heat and cool AC box like these

https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/universal-compact-air-conditioning-heater-kit
Though you can pickup the evaporator units for much less direct from HK or
even the US

On Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 21:22 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> >I’m also planning to fit air-con using an electric compressor from a
> Nissan Leaf.
>
> Interesting,  i was wondering the other day how air con worked on an
> electric car.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 14/07/2018 20:32, chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
>
> I plan on not using the MK2 heater box.
> I’ll either use the MK4 box or an after market one.
> I’m also planning to fit air-con using an electric compressor from a
> Nissan Leaf.
>
> Chris G
>
>
> *From:* Jim Hearne 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2018 1:13 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine
>
> I think the fun bit will be mating up the MK2 heater box with the Mk4
> vents and making it work (the temperature control on the Mk4 is done with a
> solenoid valve in the heater hose).
> That and the steering column area.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group
> *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2018 12:27 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine
>
> I have a MK 4 Fiesta waiting to give up its dash for my saloon.
> I’ve measured and it does fit if you cut off the side flanges.
> I think there is an issue with the depth of the dash, it might need
> cutting down to fit.
> I guess I’ll find out.
> Attached are some photos I’ve collected over the years in preparation for
> this.
>
> Chris G
>
> *From:* Jim Hearne
> *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2018 9:21 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine
>
> In the UK you can’t pass the IVA test with air bags fitted to a kit car.
> I think it’s something to do with possible injury if they aren’t mounted
> in the same way as the original car.
>
> Quantum always used to say that the Mk3/4 Fiesta and Puma dash was too
> wide to fit in a 2+2 but i know it’s been done.
> I think the flanges would have to be cut off the sides of the dash.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Hans Defauwes
> *Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2018 9:16 AM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine
>
> Some time ago a 2+2 with a Puma Interior and engine was sold on e-bay.
>
> Does anybody know the new owner?
>
> I realy like the idea of the puma dash with 2 airbags etc.
> I can get a low milage one for cheap . . .
>
> Hans
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Fwd: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine

[Darren Siepka]

-- Forwarded message -
From: Darren Siepka 
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018, 21:11
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine
To: 


I used a rs1800i MK3.5 black dash, complete with the proper MK3.5 heater. I
also used puma white dial clocks.
The wiring for the dash was pretty straightforward the Speedo pickup screws
in to the gearbox just like a cable does.
I will see if I can find the build photos .
This is in a saloon .
Only the outer fixing brackets (near door) needed cutting and  modifying
Steering wise I have a mgf epas power column complete with switch gear and
wheel

On 13 Jul 2018 8:54 pm, "Hans Defauwes"  wrote:

interesting
what kind of daschord did you put in coupe/2+2
Do you have any pictures

Hans

*From:* Darren Siepka 
*Sent:* Friday, July 13, 2018 2:34 PM
*To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine

The most work is with the heater box, I had to enlarge the fan opening and
glass in a new box around that area to stop water ingress.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, 09:16 Hans Defauwes,  wrote:

> Some time ago a 2+2 with a Puma Interior and engine was sold on e-bay.
>
> Does anybody know the new owner?
>
> I realy like the idea of the puma dash with 2 airbags etc.
> I can get a low milage one for cheap . . .
>
> Hans
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 with Puma interior + engine

[Darren Siepka]

The most work is with the heater box, I had to enlarge the fan opening and
glass in a new box around that area to stop water ingress.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, 09:16 Hans Defauwes,  wrote:

> Some time ago a 2+2 with a Puma Interior and engine was sold on e-bay.
>
> Does anybody know the new owner?
>
> I realy like the idea of the puma dash with 2 airbags etc.
> I can get a low milage one for cheap . . .
>
> Hans
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Increasing Driver Legroom

[Darren Siepka]

As long as you put a suitable spreader plate under the car when you reboot
then yes just drill as required. iirc the ford seats had a angle bracket
that hooked downwards at the front of the runners, but my Corsa ones don't
have them .I used 1/8 plate above and below the floor pan and bolted
through them with m8 bolts

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, 09:35 Nigel Plant,  wrote:

> Being tall, I need to move seat runners back. Haven't taken seats out yet,
> but it doesn't look just like a case of drilling new holes. This is just
> exploratory wondering what others have done before I get stuck in. I
> probably need 2 to 3 inches further back. Do I need a new pair of runners
> to extend existing. Welding not a problem.
> Thanks
> Nigel
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[Quantum Owners] Transport help

[Darren Siepka]

Can anyone help please?
I am looking at a chassis for a Q project but it is in spennymoor and I am
in south Devon! Can any one suggest a transport or could help in some way(
costs and a bit would be covered)

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Seats question

[Darren Siepka]

I have a pair of black leather reupholstered seats made by old quantum up
for offers?
Darren

On 31 Aug 2017 2:35 p.m., "Alan Williamson"  wrote:

> I have streetKa heated leather seats in mine.
>
> On 31 August 2017 at 13:29, 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>> I know of one car that has BMW Z3 leather heated seats and look good
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 31 Aug 2017, at 11:01, Susan and Martin Scott <
>> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
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>> One thing (which may or not be important), is if you want seats that tilt
>> forward easily they'll need to be from a 2 (3) door car.
>> Martin
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* 'Matthew Gaskin' via Quantum Owners Group
>> 
>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:43 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Seats question
>>
>> My 2+2's seats are starting to get a bit tatty and the driver's seat base
>> has collapsed. These have been repaired before for that same issue. They
>> currently are Recaro seats which, I think, were originally from a Sierra (I
>> can't be sure as my car was factory built). I have considered getting them
>> repaired and re-upholstered but it seemed sensible to consult this group's
>> hivemind for any other options too. And, yes, the other option I should
>> probably consider is for me to lose a couple of stone so the seat base
>> lasts longer...
>>
>> I seem to recall reading that at least one of you has some seats with
>> built-in speakers, and/or electric seat-warmers, for example. So I wondered
>> what you've tried, what has worked, and what hasn't. It may help me decide
>> if repairing the ones I have is a better bet than complete replacement.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>> Matthew
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Bonnet cutting for vents 2 + 2

[Darren Siepka]

Mine were done by the original factory and have been sikaflexed in place,
never had any cracking etc around them.

On 25 Aug 2017 9:31 p.m., "calum mcpherson" 
wrote:

>
> So having purchased the vents I need to cut 2 holes in my bonnet , so I
> want to get it right.
>
> Has anyone any advice on best way to cut apertures, best tools to do job
> ,am I better sealing cut fibreglass ends to prevent/reduce spiderweb damage
> to surrounding area.
>
> ANY advice greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> Calum.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Steering Rack

[Darren Siepka]

I seem to recall that washers were used but can't find the book to hand.
Anyhow it would be good practice for a washer to be under the bolt head not
direct as it is
Darren

On 12 Jun 2017 12:17 p.m., "Andrew Crawford" 
wrote:

> Hi I was wondering if the spacer/washer is required when fitting the
> steering rack as my one has cracked and I believe this was caused by the
> spacer.
>
>
> I've checked the build manual but the steering rack fitment is not covered
>
>
> cheers..Andy
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum and Heritage acquired by Phoenix

[Darren Siepka]

I'm tied up with other things anyhow for a few weeks so perfect timing :-)

On 5 May 2017 10:42 p.m., "Steve Kodź" <st...@h4-turbo.co.uk> wrote:

> They are getting the keys to their new unit on Monday, so will probably be
> very busy for the next few weeks.
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> I notice they are only 20mins from my new workshops , might have to pop
> over and say hi :-)
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> On 5 May 2017 9:35 p.m., "Darren Siepka" <dar...@siepka.me.uk> wrote:
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>> Their web site is terrible !
>> The mirach like an interesting car, a kind of stretched locost/dutton
>>
>> On 5 May 2017 9:09 p.m., "Ian Harrison" <bighatp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've just seen this on Facebook.
>>>
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>>> side phoenix.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum and Heritage acquired by Phoenix

[Darren Siepka]

I notice they are only 20mins from my new workshops , might have to pop
over and say hi :-)

On 5 May 2017 9:35 p.m., "Darren Siepka" <dar...@siepka.me.uk> wrote:

> Their web site is terrible !
> The mirach like an interesting car, a kind of stretched locost/dutton
>
> On 5 May 2017 9:09 p.m., "Ian Harrison" <bighatp...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I've just seen this on Facebook.
>>
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>> quantum sports cars and quantum heritage. We will be moving into new
>> premises during the next couple of weeks and will be running quantum along
>> side phoenix.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum and Heritage acquired by Phoenix

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Their web site is terrible !
The mirach like an interesting car, a kind of stretched locost/dutton

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> I've just seen this on Facebook.
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt

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My 2+2 is registered as Jan 1978 , so 2018 for me :-)
Darren

On 30 Mar 2017 1:41 p.m.,  wrote:

> I’ve just read and interesting bit on the DVLA web site.
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> Any vehicle registered more than 40 years ago (This rolls forward on 1st
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> Soowho will be the first to have a tax exempt Quantum?
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Automatic Gearbox needed. HELP!

[Darren Siepka]

The cvt works very well but you have to play around will the throttle/ratio
mixer as in std form its well off due to the difference in body weight etc.

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> Thats what I have in my Mitsubishi Mirage and its great.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Automatic gearbox wanted.

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If your happy with a cvt they are a bit easier to source , i have one in
the coupe currently , but have recently managed to find a very low mileage
proper auto from an orion 84 (only taken 4 yrs to find!).
Have you ever put an auto in a Q yet? Coupe or 2+2?
I havent tried the new proper auto for size yet but dims say it should.

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> Hi All
> Does anyone on here have an automatic gearbox suitable for fitting on a
> CVH engine?
> Need one for a Quantum. Nit having much luck.
> Thanks in advance for the help.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2 + 2 Turbo Diesel project for sale

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Mmm long way for me , but what sort of money you after?

On 23 Sep 2016 2:46 pm, "John Woodward"  wrote:

> Sorry, meant to say car located about 5 miles north of Oxford.. More
> photo's available, just email me john.woodwar...@gmail.com
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> On Friday, 23 September 2016 11:48:23 UTC+1, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
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>> Where abouts is the car located?
>>
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>>> Factory built 2+2 turbo diesel, was modified by Jeremy Fearn to produce
>>> 115 BHP, has large intercooler, oil cooler, remote filter, all different
>>> from mine
>>> Recently purchased as I needed a new bonnet for my car after an accident.
>>>
>>> Correctly registered a a Quantum, V5C in my name, MOT expired in August
>>>
>>> Complete car with soft top, no rollbar, but with the badly damaged
>>> bonnet, the car is in a poor condition, apparently overheated & leaked
>>> diesel from the injector pump, I've tightened the fuel supply hose & can't
>>> find any leak, but have not driven it on the road. Has stainless steel
>>> exhaust which seems fine.
>>>
>>> Would be ideal for anyone contemplating converting their 2+2 to diesel,
>>> because everything is there, front frame, fuel tank etc etc.
>>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum 2 + 2 Turbo Diesel project for sale

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Where abouts is the car located?

On 23 Sep 2016 10:25 am, "John Woodward"  wrote:

> Factory built 2+2 turbo diesel, was modified by Jeremy Fearn to produce
> 115 BHP, has large intercooler, oil cooler, remote filter, all different
> from mine
> Recently purchased as I needed a new bonnet for my car after an accident.
>
> Correctly registered a a Quantum, V5C in my name, MOT expired in August
>
> Complete car with soft top, no rollbar, but with the badly damaged bonnet,
> the car is in a poor condition, apparently overheated & leaked diesel from
> the injector pump, I've tightened the fuel supply hose & can't find any
> leak, but have not driven it on the road. Has stainless steel exhaust which
> seems fine.
>
> Would be ideal for anyone contemplating converting their 2+2 to diesel,
> because everything is there, front frame, fuel tank etc etc.
>
> Before I put it on Ebay, thought I'd try & sell it to an existing owner
> Not looking for a lot of money, prefer to sell complete rather than break
> for parts.
>
> Read more: http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/1246/
> quantum-turbo-diesel-project-sale?page=1#ixzz4L3ucdrZ7
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Engine & gearbox removal from 2+2

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Ditto on the last replies, drop the engine to the floor then lift the front
end.i always picked up the front with a strop onto the subframe via the
engine lift, then supported it whilst i pulled the engine/box combo clear
.then lower it all to a lower position whilst working after.
Darren

On 29 Aug 2016 4:58 pm, "Kish Patel"  wrote:

> Remove bonnet and just left front end up so much  easier
>
> Sent from my iPhone  SE. - Kish
>
> On 29 Aug 2016, at 10:20 am, Stephen McKay <12steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I need to remove the engine and gearbox as a unit from my 2+2, as part of
> the restoration.
>
> Is it possible to remove them from above, which I think I would find
> easier in my case, equipment-wise.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Stephen
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Crankshaft Sensor

[Darren Siepka]

See this ebay item looks like same as mine
152164899598
Darren
On 22 Jul 2016 8:46 am, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:

> It should just be the 2 pin connector on this page.
>
> http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/section.php/213/1/junior-timer-connectors
>
> Then you need some of the female crimp contacts and a rubber boot.
>
> The only problem you might have is with crimping the new crimps.
> If you’ve not got the correct tool then you can close them with pliers but
> you will need to solder the wire as well to be sure of a good connection.
> And if there is any corrosion on the end of the wires they will be a
> bugger to solder into the crimps.
>
> Don’t be tempted by the pre-wired connectors though as the crank sensor
> wire needs to be screened.
> If you use unscreened wire you will have all sorts of problems with the
> crank sensor picking up electrical noise and giving spurious triggers.
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* 'Jim Turner' via Quantum Owners Group
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2016 5:53 PM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Re: Crankshaft Sensor
>
> Thanks Jim. i assumed that it would be a Ford specific part to maximise
> profit!
> I don't suppose you know which one it is?  I'm a bit wary of removing the
> origional without a replacement in case it falls apart.
> Regards
> JimT
>
> On Monday, 18 July 2016 17:37:10 UTC+1, Jim Turner wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>> Does anyone have, or know where I can get, a connector for the crankshaft
>> sensor on a CVH XR2i. My local Ford dealer (Acorn) who is normally magic at
>> sourcing obscure parts,e-bay, & breakers can't help.
>> JimT
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Crankshaft Sensor

[Darren Siepka]

The connector on my sensor(from a fiesta turbo) uses a mini timer type
similar to the injector plugs, if so brands hatch Motorsport on ebay sells
them unmade new.
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> Hi All
> Does anyone have, or know where I can get, a connector for the crankshaft
> sensor on a CVH XR2i. My local Ford dealer (Acorn) who is normally magic at
> sourcing obscure parts,e-bay, & breakers can't help.
> JimT
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Re: [Quantum Owners] what to use for gluing side windows

[Darren Siepka]

When i did my coupe side and rear screen i brought the proper black ceramic
paint with etch primer and windscreen adhesive. It worked ok but the side
screens gave gone again after only 5-6 yrs.
This time i am going to glue the sides in clear then a friend is going to
cut me some uv proof black vinyl on his cutter to stick over the outside .i
think if i use a satin material it will look ok. Maybe last a bit longer
too.
The window chap who made our heated windscreens said he could make us
proper side screens with the black properly done oem style but we needed to
order 100+ windows to get the setup cost sensible!!!
Darren
On 15 Jul 2016 10:20 pm, "Hans Defauwes"  wrote:

> I have to re-glue/kit my coupe rear side windows.
>
> What is the best way to do that and what products are recommended?
> Any  ´lasting` solution to this recurring event . .
>
> The black sprayed surrounding edge on the inside of the windows has come
> loose from the glass.
> Had to tape the window to the body to day in order to prevent falling out
> . . .
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> Use a black edging primer to create the surrounding? or . . .
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Alternative programmable ecu

[Darren Siepka]

I had been working on a pic based one , then i found speeduino , it was
much further along than mine, so i switch over.
I am currently designing a CAN bus interface and transmission controller in
conjunction with the project.
Darren
On 4 Jun 2016 8:44 am, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:

> Interesting, thanks for the link.
>
> Shame it's not PIC based instead of Arduino :-)
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 01/06/2016 21:52, dar...@siepka.me.uk wrote:
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> Not sure it anyone has seen or played with this but check out
> Speeduino.com
> A very good open source ecu for under £70!!!
> It may not have all the bells and whistles that megasquirt does but do really 
> use them?
> I have just fitted one in the coupe(vid on youtube) and am very pleased.
> The project is constantly evolving and membership is growing.
> Darren
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Mk 1 Strut Tops

[Darren Siepka]

I do wonder if std rubber/metalastic micra tops would fit? They would be a
bit more forgiving on the grp towers and a fair bit cheaper ?
Darren
On 1 Jun 2016 6:22 pm, "Bill Jackson" <billjackso...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Thanks Darren...I found your previous post and searched as suggested..and
> guess what, it's the same people near Wigan who are advertising the Fiesta
> items. My friendly garage is going to measure for me tomorrow and so I
> should have the information I need.
> Bill
>
>
> On Wednesday, 1 June 2016, 16:15, Darren Siepka <dar...@siepka.me.uk>
> wrote:
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>
> Not sure about the dimensions but another alternative is the nissan micra
> top mounts, i posted a message a while back regarding a company selling
> replacement mounts that fitted micra and fiesta mk1
> Darren
> On 31 May 2016 8:44 pm, "bilje55" <billjackso...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> It seems that my saloon has Mk 1 Fiesta front struts and the top mountings
> are substantially different from the more common mk 2 struts. At the recent
> MOT I was advised that there was some play in the top mountingsso I
> imagine I have almost a year to solve the following problem: Compbrake
> Motorsport Ltd can supply a pair of Ford Fiesta Mk1 Front Fixed Suspension
> Top Mounts of their own manufacture (THANKYOU Bristol Kit Car Club member
> for that information), BUT they want the following information: PLEASE
> SPECIFY THE SIZE OF SLEEVE NUT AND WASHER REQUIRED (M12x1.25, M12x1.50,
> M14x1.50 OR M17) and there is also an option to build in 1 degree of
> negative camber. Can someone please advise me how to find this information
> and whether or not I need to opt for the 1 degree negative camber?
> Thanks in advance!
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Remote Door locking

[Darren Siepka]

I have had/got clifford systems in both my q's .a simple arrow in the 2+2
when first built and a full cat1 on the coupe with remote start.
The cliffords offer two stage unlock of the doors and seperate boot pop
Use a mk3/4 fiesta or similar boot motor for the boot mech
On 21 May 2016 5:37 pm, "Derek Clews"  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Anyone know much about aftermarket remote door locking?   My 2+2 is
> entirely manual and I wonder about ‘upgrading’.  It would add complexity so
> must also benefit in extra functionality and convenience.  A soft top is
> really unlock-able in a sense anyway.
>
> What is the best system to buy?  Reliability and quality trumping cost.
>
> How easy is to to get the necessary motor and fit it for the boot
> release?  I want it to be remote release only, no switch in the car or it
> would be less secure than now.
>
> Can you make the systems unlock the driver’s door only and then lock both
> and optionally unlock both doors?  The ones I have seen appear to lock and
> unlock both doors without the option.  I am sure I could rig a system to
> lock both and only unlock the drivers door all the time, but the option of
> unlocking both when you want is good.
>
> If you may add car alarm/immobiliser later are you better just doing the
> whole thing at once?  Just use the good old steering wheel Crook Lock now.
>
>
>
> Separate item:  The Coupe came with a TOAD alarm but it’s playing up a
> bit.  Is it best to replace them rather than try to fix them?  The wiring
> is designed to be difficult to trace and I did not install it.  Also it
> seems like alarms on cars that sit for a week or so without use just run
> the battery flat.  That is quite a liability, so may not be the right
> solution for a kit car.  Other more basic methods may be better?  e.g. the
> old hidden switch routine?  Maybe better to take it out.
>
> What experiences do you have of the systems?
>
> Thanks
>
> Derek
>
>
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Wheels

[darren siepka]

Not sure what the offset is but I have a mk1 focus space saver as my
spare on the coupe as I needed a 15 rim to clear the calipers on my big
disc setup too. It clears the front and rears without any problems and
fits in the space Q made behind the back seat for a 135 fiesta tyre n
rim.

Darren

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Wheels

Hi. Does anyone know the offset of a Mk1 Focus wheel? I need a 15
spare for my H4 to clear my nice big brake discs.
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[Quantum Owners] Re: MK 4 FIESTA DASH

[darren siepka]

You will need to do a chop job on the bottom of the column as the
splines on the rack pinions are different. Other easily adapted columns
that could be used are mk3 and 4 escort(yes I know probably rocking
horse do da these days :-))or mgf.

The mgf comes in both epas and non pas types as well as adjustable
height and fixed! I have the epas version in the coupe complete with
switch gear and steering wheel (see the pics in the files section) , but
the non pas version would be a much easier fitment and cheaper too!

To use either the escort or the mgf columns you keep your mk2 fiesta
rack but fit an mk3/4 escort pinion in place of the fiesta one. To make
the rack on the coupe I just ordered one of each racks from a supplier
on ebay for a 10 each! Then did the swaps and binned the rest :-) .

Darren

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[mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Sent: 26 October 2009 18:18
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: MK 4 FIESTA DASH


Thanks for this info Darren.

I spent an hour getting a mk4 dash out at the weekend. It looks like I
will need the steering column and pedals aswell?

The major sugery starts tonight. I'll let you know how I get on.

Rich


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