[qubes-users] Re: ProtonMail bridge

[ThierryIT]

Le vendredi 20 avril 2018 00:25:43 UTC+3, chipp...@gmail.com a écrit :
> AHTON,
>   Thank you for sharing what worked for you.  My bridge was installed 
> into the personal VM (Fedora-26).
>  I understand what you are suggesting, and hope to try it out this 
> weekend when I slow down again.
> 
> Regards ~

Hi,
How did you get the Linux version of the Bridge ... Seems not to be yet 
available ... Beta tester ?

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes deamin no respnse error

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On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 6:20:33 PM UTC, Roy Bernat wrote:
> Hi all 
> 
> suddenly got error while open qubes manager 
> 
> got empty response from qubesd. 
> 
> at line 465 
> 
> 
> 
> Any one ? 
> 
> 
> R

Hi, 

I had the same problem.

https://github.com/marmarek/qubes-core-admin/commit/5230bb61ab5b04bdf0b37d8ed06064773e229995

Above link says that "ignore it for now" so i commented out that line in file 
/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qubes/storage/__init__.py (line no 238). Then 
everything worked fine.

You will need to restart qubesd.(i.e systemctl restart qubesd) 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Lenovo G505S Coreboot

[qubesthrowaway]

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:08:37 AM UTC, qma ster wrote:
> Hi there Friend ! What 8 cells battery you have got, and from which seller?
> It is either your battery needs a few power cycles to get to its' full
> performance,
> or maybe you have received a battery with the different power cells
> (not SANYO) :
> e.g. your original battery was SANYO but that new 8cells could be SMP ? :P
> 
> If you would look at the PDF Hardware Maintenance Manual for Lenovo G505S 
> laptop
> (easily found online, contains many FRU replacement parts
> descriptions/IDs, useful)
> you will see that - even for the official G505S batteries, there were
> three manufacturers:
> Sanyo, LG, SMP (Simplo). According to some tests, Sanyo are much
> better than SMP/LG.
> 
> Please look at the attached picture - it contains a small review of
> the battery cells (could be expanded)
> 
> my 8cells battery is Sanyo, and its almost twice longer battery life!
> Mike result is ~1.5x longer,
> but he haven't told me who made his cells, or I forgot what he has
> replied to me and couldnt find.
> Guess its a bit of a lottery... If your battery would not perform
> better after a few power cycles,
> you could try getting another 8 cells battery, preferably from another
> seller - for a higher chance
> that these batteries would be from the different batches with the
> different internals - and we will see
> 
> However, if you would look through this guide above, there are some
> more worthy investments:
> in example, AR9462 wireless network adapter from ath9k family - does
> not need the binary blobs,
> runs on 100% open source and supports 2.4GHz/5GHz and even Bluetooth,
> works fine even at the
> Stallman-endorsed Linux distros. Ideally, batteries should be bought
> after you have got everything else.
> By the way, 2-3 times per year you could get 10-20% off AliExpress
> coupons for a great real discount
> 
> Retyped table from the attached image (so that it will be searchable
> through the Internet) :
> 

Thanks for all the info!  I bought my battery from some random seller on eBay 
and it was disappointing initially but seems better after a few cycles.  I may 
check out your recommended ones anyway.  I did many of the other recommended 
upgrades already, including replacing the thermal paste, the WiFi adapter and 
upgrading to 16gb of Patriot Viper RAM and an SSD.

I'm very happy with my current setup thanks to you and others.  One question I 
have is regarding boot time for 4.0.  Is it several minutes long for you on 
coreboot/Qubes 4.0?  I also get a Failed to Load Kernel Modules message early 
on in Qubes boot if that matters.  Once it's up and running, things run 
smoothly.

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[qubes-users] Qubes OS 4.0 Fantastic!

[Randall Jonasz]

Hello,

I just want to give some feedback about my experience with Qubes OS.  The last 
time I had Qubes OS installed was with version 3.1.  The Asus laptop I used 
needed a lot of manual configuration to finally getting a workable 
installation. Last week, after noticing that 4.0 had been released, I installed 
4.0 on the very same laptop 3.1 was on.  It installed without any problems 
using the default parameters.  I've been using this laptop as my main computer 
now for a week and it has performed very well.  The only hiccup was with Win7.  
Every time I update Windows, the screen freezes but I still see disk activity 
so I let it run for an hour before manually shutting down the domain.  Other 
than that my work needs and pleasure uses have been met very well.  I even set 
up Expressvpn in sys-net and it works flawlessly.  

Thank you to the developers for outstanding progress!

Randall

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Re: [qubes-users] Small Templates

[Drew White]

On Thursday, 19 April 2018 20:36:36 UTC+10, cooloutac  wrote:
> ya but the thing about Qubes is the software is considered insecure in the 
> first place.   and if your system is crashing every 5 seconds thats super 
> suspicious.  and beauty about Qubes is being able to quickly wipe and 
> reinstall a vm or template.   the more super custom you go the more tedious 
> that becomes.

Exactly, but I still want less software so I have better software on there as I 
would build my own software to take over most of the functions.
I'm also replacing most of the python scripts too, because they are so 
cumbersome it's not funny.

It isn't crashing literally every 5 seconds, it's an exaggeration. Well, for 
most of my PCs, I did have one that crashed when starting EVERY TIME.




> as far as no systemD well thats gonna be super tough.  It seems you do alot 
> of tough work setting up your Qubes but it seems qubes is designed to be 
> default and universal in mind.   but its funny seeing other fsf guys on the 
> forums who don't want secure boot but not mentioning how much worse all 
> software is.   I mean I don't know what your reasons are for not trusting 
> systemD,  but the same  fingers are in all the gui's prolly too.

Yeah, SystemD is just insecure and super vulnerable. When SystemD crashes, the 
whole PC freezes. That's why init and sysv was so much better, because they 
started everything properly and separately. They did it the right way.

Well, we can only hope that people realise and thus start moving back away from 
SystemD in the near future.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4 ISO..

[Drew White]

On Thursday, 19 April 2018 18:35:12 UTC+10, Foppe de Haan  wrote:
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 3:42:18 AM UTC+2, Drew White wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > Is there anywhere I can find out what the Qubes 4 ISO contains to install?
> > Are there any minimal install versions?
> 
> Hi Drew,
> 
> basically the same elements as the r3.2 installer contained. No, there is no 
> minimal installer.

I just figured there may be someone that built Qubes using the minimal 
templates, and not the large templates, or similar. Without all the bloatware 
that Qubes has in the systems.

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[qubes-users] Re: Music streaming in Firefox 59: QubesOS 4.0 / Fedora 26

[cooloutac]

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 5:51:43 PM UTC-4, 00010...@gmail.com wrote:
> What is holding a music streaming station (or entire site) like 
> https://www.radiotunes.com/datempolounge back from streaming under QubesOS 
> 4.0 - Fedora 26 - Firefox 59 ?
> 
> AFAIK, MP3 support is now integrated in Fedora. What is still missing?

maybe mp4?   gstreamer1-libav package?

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[qubes-users] Re: Multiboot with Ubuntu : invalid signature

[cooloutac]

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 3:44:10 PM UTC-4, nhp...@gmail.com wrote:
> After 6 hours of trials, I finally to search for help here:
> 
> I've installed Qubes onto my PC with Ubuntu and Win10 already installed.
> 
> To multiboot Ubuntu with Qubes (Win10 is unimportant here), I followed the 
> Multiboot tutorial and handled with some modifications of the parameters 
> without luck.
> 
> 
> After some trials on Qubes Bootloader I re-installed the Bootloader of Ubuntu 
> and added the commands into 
> /etc/grub.d/40_custom.
> 
> I always get the invalid signature message
> 
> /dev/sdb1: UUID="7EF489BEF48978E3" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic data 
> partition" PARTUUID="e9b9258c-eb19-4917-ba4b-6be9b6120063"
> /dev/sdb2: UUID="2A56-C781" TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL="EFI system partition" 
> PARTUUID="e509094a-abf7-4602-a6a5-12cb27f926a3"
> /dev/sdb4: LABEL="Win10" UUID="2ACC640FCC63D41B" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic 
> data partition" PARTUUID="d431cf1e-218d-44ef-a592-8721bb12ae96"
> /dev/sdb5: UUID="53c7d5ce-1628-4fff-b764-96ba2e9cfc7e" TYPE="ext4" 
> PARTUUID="219f1f65-1156-4489-9075-609208d4d268"
> /dev/sdb7: UUID="62c8211a-9a75-4f03-b19d-a42144b2b811" TYPE="ext4" 
> PARTUUID="14457fbc-1dec-476b-8d00-f25ab8781024"
> /dev/sdb8: UUID="phAkAt-gqMO-jgfU-ymJ5-c2ig-B3Rw-A7SO8h" TYPE="LVM2_member" 
> PARTUUID="eadaa2a5-5e9e-4563-9ff5-02f567a36036"
> 
> Triet event to boot Qubes through the entry:
> insmod part_gpt
> insmod ext2
> set root='(hd1,7)'
> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 62c8211a-9a75-4f03-b19d-a42144b2b811
> chainloader +1
> 
> Need some help in solving this confusing situation.
> 
> BTW = The sdb7 folder has an EFI folder
> My Ubuntu x64 16.04 doesn't
> 
> I can reinstall Qubes if needed, but I am unable to delete my Ubuntu 
> partition, needed for my daily work.

maybe you have to turn off secure boot in bios?

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[qubes-users] Re: R4.0 rc4: Devices and VM tray icons disappeared

[cooloutac]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 6:38:57 AM UTC-4, Антон Чехов wrote:
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 12:27:25 PM UTC+2, cooloutac wrote:
> > On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 6:19:45 AM UTC-4, Антон Чехов wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:06:16 AM UTC+1, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> > > > On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 6:48:22 PM UTC-5, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > 
> > > > > After a recent reboot, the devices and VM tray icons no longer are 
> > > > > appearing on boot in Xfce. I have no idea what might have caused 
> > > > > this. There were no dom0 updates in the meantime. If I try to 
> > > > > manually run them, e.g., python3 -mqui.tray.devices, I get the 
> > > > > following:
> > > > > 
> > > > > ERROR:dbus.proxies.Introspect error on 
> > > > > org.qubes.DomainManager1:/org/qubes/DomainManager1: 
> > > > > dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: 
> > > > > Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying
> > > > > 
> > > > > Followed by a backtrace, the relevant part appears to be:
> > > > > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qui/tray/devices.py", line 22, 
> > > > > in 
> > > > >DOMAINS = qui.models.qubes.DomainManager()
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any advice would be appreciated, since with no icons, I'm also not 
> > > > > appearing to get notifications for devices and VM actions.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > 
> > > > Interesting discovery: this problem arose as a result of setting 
> > > > qrexec_timeout on an arbitrary VM to a value larger than an INT32. So 
> > > > the moral of the story: Don't try to set qrexec_timeout too high!
> > > > 
> > > > Daniel
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I am experiencing the same problem with the final version of 4.0 but I 
> > > did not change a setting of qrexec_timeout. The device tray icon 
> > > disappeared suddenly.
> > > 
> > > I am getting tons of "GTK error" when trying to run manually via "python3 
> > > -mqui.tray.devices"?
> > > 
> > > So far I haven't been able to get the devices tray appear again but I can 
> > > attach devices via command line.
> > > 
> > > Anyone having the same problem?
> > 
> > no,  weird.  have you tried to use qubes-manager at all?
> 
> Do you mean the VM manager? If so, yes! It does work with a lot of bugs like 
> a lot of people reported already. I don't see all apps in the VM manager and 
> the lights indicating a working app do only appear or disappear when clicking 
> an app. Sometimes I forget an app is still running.
> VPN apps I created don't appear in the VM manager at all, so I do need to use 
> CLI.
> 
> Having a working devices tray icon would be nice, though.

ya hope they fix that issue soon.  What I do is keep hitting the green refresh 
icon on top to refresh the manager to see the current vm states.  For some 
reason it doesn't refresh on its own.   Weird that custom appvms you create 
don't appear in the manager.

Have you made alot of customizations in dom0?

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[qubes-users] Re: New installation of Qubes OS stopped booting for no reason?

[cooloutac]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:05:44 PM UTC-4, bill...@gmail.com wrote:
> So, I had installed Qubes 4 on a triple boot laptop (Win 10, Netrunner linux, 
> Qubes OS).  It had installed fine, and I had booted up in Qubes three or four 
> times, played with the VMS, ran firefox, poked around a little, and was 
> happy.  Then I got busy with some other stuff and set it aside, and worked 
> mostly in Netrunner for my "real" work.
> 
> Today, I come back to it, and Qubes won't boot.  I get the following errors 
> on the boot screen:
> 
> Failed to load kernal modules
> 
> Kfd: kgd2kfd_probe failed
> 
> Reached target basic system
> 
> 
> 
>  dracut - initqueue[334]: Warning: dracut-initque time out - 
> starting timeout script
> 
> 
> 
> Could not boot
> /dev/mapper/qubes_dom0_root does not exist
> /dev/qubes_dome0/root does not exist 
> 
> and I'm dumped into the rescue prompt.
> 
> This has repeated three times.  I tried taking out my usb mouse (which has 
> caused problems in the past, though not this), but that didn't change 
> anything.
> 
> Is this some configuration thing, or did aliens from outer space corrupt my 
> partition with their evil laptop killer ray and I need to reinstall -- I 
> don't mind, since I'm just playing around with Qubes, but I'd rather fix it...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> billo

Maybe one of the other os's did.  Maybe qubes dom0 updated its kernel and its 
no longer recognized by whatever grub you are using?

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[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Testing new VPN code for Qubes

[john]

I installed this in a App/proxy 4.0 VM,  as I am familiar with the 3.2 
CLI  VPN creation.


I don't really understand how installing it in a Template or The 
Template(not cloning it 1st)  would allow me to swich between 
geolocations ...


So, I used the AppVM,  then I simply  cloned the 1st one created with 
the script and went into the PIA config file area and did rm -f ln 
-s  to the network manager thing.


and then recreated the ln -s  to a new config file,  which works , and 
Even  wakes up  from  suspend  (where in 3.2 it never did) ;  However,


If the AppVM using one of the VPN-foo as a netvm,  and it is started, 
and I want to switch to another VPN-foo1  it doesn't work on the fly,  I 
have to go and qvm-shutdown the  AppVM and open it again,  which is a 
big pain.I am often running out of RAM, and so try to just use one 
App-proxy-vpnVM , however ,


is this the expected behavior  no switching vpn appvms on the fly ?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: inst.text boot option

[Sergio Matta]

> Just a shot in the dark, but regarding workarounds for graphics cards 
> problems:
> With Legacy BIOS boot, have you tried to add  " nouveau.modeset=0 " on the 
> module code-line right after "quiet"?
> 
> Regards,
> Teqleez

Thank you Teqleez. 
Your idea looks like change something. I tried many times with different ways. 
The problem is in video install driver. They need to reduce the install size 
but now it lacks support for some graphics boards. I am using a RC3 install 
version and it has all drivers on it.
With the RC3 update I did today, now everything is working fine, since I do not 
need a fresh install anymore :-) 

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[qubes-users] Re: HCL - Thinkpad X1 Carbon 6th gen - Qubes 4.0

[beastgoalie]

I tried that, and confirmed that I changed the setting by watching this value 
toggle from 1 to 0 and back on multiple reboots:
cat /sys/class/drm/card0/power/rc6_enable

Since I'm on EFI, I manually edited the /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg file and 
didn't run grub2-mkconfig and it still turned rc6 off and on with that 
parameter you mentioned.

It didn't help my suspend issues. It suspends, and the power button blinks 
slowly, then no matter what I do (clicking power, typing, clicking the mouse, 
plugging and unplugging cables) nothing changes that steady blink of the power 
button until I hold it for ~10seconds.

There's another value in the KERNEL parameter, i915.aplha_support=1. I changed 
it to 0 as well (which disables it). This also had no effect.

I need to learn how to troubleshoot this better. I'm at a loss right now.

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[qubes-users] Unable to boot Q4.0 Dracut Emergency Shell /dev/qubes_dom0/root does not exist etc

[cicero]

Hello,

The system has been fine , till I did a reboot (there were some debian 
and Fed Template updates but)


The last message in journalctl  says kernel: audit: type=1131 
../usr/lib/systemd/systemd  hostname=? audit=?  terminal=?



dracut-initqueue timeout  etc



any help appreciated

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[qubes-users] Re: ProtonMail bridge

[chipperh61]

AHTON,
  Thank you for sharing what worked for you.  My bridge was installed into 
the personal VM (Fedora-26).
 I understand what you are suggesting, and hope to try it out this weekend 
when I slow down again.

Regards ~

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[qubes-users] "How can I properly manage my system?" or "how do I use Admin API, salt and git or other versioning/distribution mechanisms together"

[viq]

Salt tools give a nice way to configure system (make sure templates exist
with certain packages, prepare AppVMs based on them, etc). But I'd prefer
to edit them in a customized editor, with syntax highlighting, etc, which
is strongly discouraged from being put into dom0. I also feel that having
version control over those files is the way to go, preferably synced
somewhere so I can for example easily replicate this when setting up
another computer or reinstalling.

My understanding is that this is a perfect use case for new Admin API -
have a machine with editor and git set up to adjust salt files, and either
give admin permissions to that one, or use something like split-git that
was mentioned to pull the repo into another VM and execute there.

Am I on the right track here? If so:
1) What packages do I need on admin VM to be able to do this?
2) Where and how should I be executing this? A quick test of running
qubesctl inside a VM didn't even produce logs in dom0 journal, the command
just complained it can't reach a daemon.
3) What would be a good way to track and distribute necessary changes to
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/ on dom0?

And if I'm not on the right track, then what would be the proper way to
approach this?
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Re: [qubes-users] USB Device Question

[Stuart Perkins]

>
>maybe you'll have better luck with simple-mtpfs
>
>from the package's info:
>
>SIMPLE-MTPFS (Simple Media Transfer Protocol FileSystem) is a file
>system for Linux (and other operating systems with a FUSE
>implementation, such as Mac OS X or FreeBSD) capable of operating on
>files on MTP devices attached via USB to local machine. On the local
>computer where the SIMPLE-MTPFS is mounted, the implementation makes use
>of the FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) kernel module. The practical
>effect of this is that the end user can seamlessly interact with MTP
>device files.
>
Thanks.  I'll check that out.

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Re: [qubes-users] where to make requests?

['awokd' via qubes-users]

On Thu, April 19, 2018 6:24 pm, trueriver wrote:
> is this the place to ask for a new feature for Qubes?
>
> If not, where please?

qubes-devel mailing list or maybe filing an issue labelled as one.

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Re: [qubes-users] USB Device Question

[Ivan Mitev]

On 04/19/2018 08:39 PM, Stuart Perkins wrote:
> PITA.  I used to be able to mount this very phone as a USB drive and RSYNC it 
> for backup.  I can still drag and drop with the file manager, but I have to 
> take the whole thing every time and can't just maintain an up-to-date copy 
> with rsync.  
> 
> not all change is progress.  :/

maybe you'll have better luck with simple-mtpfs

from the package's info:

SIMPLE-MTPFS (Simple Media Transfer Protocol FileSystem) is a file
system for Linux (and other operating systems with a FUSE
implementation, such as Mac OS X or FreeBSD) capable of operating on
files on MTP devices attached via USB to local machine. On the local
computer where the SIMPLE-MTPFS is mounted, the implementation makes use
of the FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) kernel module. The practical
effect of this is that the end user can seamlessly interact with MTP
device files.





> 
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:38:43 +0100
> Mike Keehan  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:34:20 -0400
>> Stuart Perkins  wrote:
>>
>>> I have the following setup:
>>>
>>> Qubes 3.2, xfce4 interface
>>> sys-usb
>>>
>>> I want to be able to connect my Android phone to a vm and rsync its
>>> contents.  I can connect the phone and "qvm-usb -a" it to the VM, and
>>> it appears available under the File Manager application as
>>> "mtp://[usb:002,004]/" but I cannot locate a mount point to use for
>>> rsync.  It does not appear under /run/user/[uid]/gvfs.  Any idea
>>> where it mounts so I can use rsync to reference it?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance...
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>   
>>
>> "mtp://" is the clue :)  mtp is a protocol for communication between a
>> phone and a computer.  I don't think rsync supports mtp.
>>
>> (My old phone used to 'mount' OK when I connected it, but my new phone
>> doesn't - it shows up as an mtp: device.)
>>
>>
>> Mike.
>>
> 

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[qubes-users] where to make requests?

[trueriver]

is this the place to ask for a new feature for Qubes?

If not, where please?

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[qubes-users] Re: Guide: Monero wallet/daemon isolation w/qubes+whonix

[pauHana]

I have followed your guide and have the wallet-ws and monerod-ws up and 
running.  Something isn't clicking getting them to communicate though.  In my 
wallet I get the cannot connect to monerod daemon.  And in monerod-ws i can 
tail the bitmonero.log and see it working nicely and syncing.

Any troubleshooting steps you would recommend?



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[qubes-users] New installation of Qubes OS stopped booting for no reason?

[billollib]

So, I had installed Qubes 4 on a triple boot laptop (Win 10, Netrunner linux, 
Qubes OS).  It had installed fine, and I had booted up in Qubes three or four 
times, played with the VMS, ran firefox, poked around a little, and was happy.  
Then I got busy with some other stuff and set it aside, and worked mostly in 
Netrunner for my "real" work.

Today, I come back to it, and Qubes won't boot.  I get the following errors on 
the boot screen:

Failed to load kernal modules

Kfd: kgd2kfd_probe failed

Reached target basic system



 dracut - initqueue[334]: Warning: dracut-initque time out - 
starting timeout script



Could not boot
/dev/mapper/qubes_dom0_root does not exist
/dev/qubes_dome0/root does not exist 

and I'm dumped into the rescue prompt.

This has repeated three times.  I tried taking out my usb mouse (which has 
caused problems in the past, though not this), but that didn't change anything.

Is this some configuration thing, or did aliens from outer space corrupt my 
partition with their evil laptop killer ray and I need to reinstall -- I don't 
mind, since I'm just playing around with Qubes, but I'd rather fix it...

Thanks!

billo

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Re: [qubes-users] USB Device Question

[Stuart Perkins]

PITA.  I used to be able to mount this very phone as a USB drive and RSYNC it 
for backup.  I can still drag and drop with the file manager, but I have to 
take the whole thing every time and can't just maintain an up-to-date copy with 
rsync.  

not all change is progress.  :/

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:38:43 +0100
Mike Keehan  wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:34:20 -0400
>Stuart Perkins  wrote:
>
>> I have the following setup:
>> 
>> Qubes 3.2, xfce4 interface
>> sys-usb
>> 
>> I want to be able to connect my Android phone to a vm and rsync its
>> contents.  I can connect the phone and "qvm-usb -a" it to the VM, and
>> it appears available under the File Manager application as
>> "mtp://[usb:002,004]/" but I cannot locate a mount point to use for
>> rsync.  It does not appear under /run/user/[uid]/gvfs.  Any idea
>> where it mounts so I can use rsync to reference it?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance...
>> 
>> Stuart
>>   
>
>"mtp://" is the clue :)  mtp is a protocol for communication between a
>phone and a computer.  I don't think rsync supports mtp.
>
>(My old phone used to 'mount' OK when I connected it, but my new phone
>doesn't - it shows up as an mtp: device.)
>
>
>Mike.
>

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 on USB Drive Windows Install Problems

[Campbell]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 9:01:01 AM UTC-7, awokd wrote:
> On Thu, April 19, 2018 3:27 pm, Campbell wrote:
> > Newbie to Qubes, trying it on 64GB USB drive. Installs fine, boots fine.
> > Qubes 4 runs nice on the external USB drive.
> > I've read documentation for days now, and have searched on this mail
> > group.
> >
> > I am trying to set up a Windows VM and following the instructions in the
> > Documentation, having some problems.
> 
> Check out taradiddles' pending documentation update
> (https://github.com/taradiddles/qubes-doc/blob/eec2893b2bf58206a6c18857f43eb854bc27af22/managing-os/windows/windows-vm.md)
> 
> > I need to figure out how to dd my Windows CD to an ISO but I figure I can
> > look that one up. Any help is appreciated. I don't know if Qubes installed
> > on the USB has all the features as full install on HDD.
> 
> Should have all the same features if you managed to get it to boot!

I very much appreciate this information. As this instruction is extensive, I 
will work on it and let you know if I have any problems.

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[qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo T470p

[miguel]

On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:08:27 AM UTC+1, Josef Johansson wrote:
> Installation: 
> * Disable Secure Boot
> * Use rEFInd to boot installation
> 
> 
> Workflow:
> * To restart and avoid broken LVMs (using thinpool), restart with 
> `qvm-shutdown --all --wait && sudo reboot`
> * DPI is totally off due to awesome screen resolution/XFCE/14" screen. Fedora 
> just doesn't work with the DPI. Debian has no trouble at all.
> 
> 
> Features that are tested:
> * Sleep on closed lid, sometimes VM dies, and I have to restart due to VMs 
> not starting (MAC already existing)
> * Dual monitors through HDMI/Displayport (monitor layout is not saved)
> * USB works fine after allowing keyboard
> * external mouse works directly
> * Internal Mouse/Touchpad/Keyboard
> * Function keys (volume up/down etc)
> 
> 
> All in all everything works smootly except for the VM that dies sometimes.
> The hardware is just awesome.

I couldn't get the right screen resolution for me as the default was too small 
and all the other options present simply don't fit the screen of the T470p. I 
fixed it by using xrandr directly.

First in dom0 terminal create a cvt with your resolution requirements like this:

cvt 1920 1080 60

copy the modeline and then do:

xrandr --newmode 

for example in my case:

xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 
-hsync +vsync

then execute:
xrandr --addmode eDP-1 1920X1080_60.00

Execute the resolution change:
xrandr -s 1920X1080

You can write the following script and set it to autostart with Qubes:

xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 
-hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode eDP-1 1920X1080_60.00
xrandr -s 1920X1080


This way your resolution changes as soon as you login to Qubes.

With regards to suspend issues. I also have them. Sometimes the laptop will not 
suspend when closing the lid and it is necessary to manually suspend it. 
Sometimes the laptop has trouble coming back out of sleep (although less 
frequently than the first issue). Sometimes after returning from sleep there 
are issues with USB devices 

regards
 

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 on USB Drive Windows Install Problems

['awokd' via qubes-users]

On Thu, April 19, 2018 3:27 pm, Campbell wrote:
> Newbie to Qubes, trying it on 64GB USB drive. Installs fine, boots fine.
> Qubes 4 runs nice on the external USB drive.
> I've read documentation for days now, and have searched on this mail
> group.
>
> I am trying to set up a Windows VM and following the instructions in the
> Documentation, having some problems.

Check out taradiddles' pending documentation update
(https://github.com/taradiddles/qubes-doc/blob/eec2893b2bf58206a6c18857f43eb854bc27af22/managing-os/windows/windows-vm.md)

> I need to figure out how to dd my Windows CD to an ISO but I figure I can
> look that one up. Any help is appreciated. I don't know if Qubes installed
> on the USB has all the features as full install on HDD.

Should have all the same features if you managed to get it to boot!


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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4 on USB Drive Windows Install Problems

[Campbell]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 8:40:06 AM UTC-7, myblackc...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey Campbell,
> 
> i have trouble that Qubes boot from my USB Stick.
> 
> The installing steps i following and burn the image with Rufus in the dd mode 
> on my Intenso 32GB Stick.
> 
> The boot starts shortly and some commands i see. Than nothing happend. 
> 
> Can you say me maybe why Qubes not run?
> 
> Its no question to your answer, but i hope that you can help me. :)
> 
> About your message i would be happy.
> 
> regards

I'm a newbie, but when I tried to use Rufus in Windows to create a boot USB I 
had all kinds of problems with it. What I finally did was used another computer 
with Fedora on it and ran the dd command in Linux which created a good boot 
setup drive: dd if=Qubes-R3-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M && sync (choose "sdX" 
as your actual USB location, such as /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc, your mileage may 
vary... :-)) (and of course choose the correct ISO name)

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Re: [qubes-users] my qubes 3.2 doesn't boot after installing latest Dom0 patches yestarday

['awokd' via qubes-users]

On Thu, April 19, 2018 2:19 pm, Oleg Artemiev wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:18 awokd  wrote:
>

> Qubes provides 3 kernels to boot w/ by default. In my case all fail.

I'm wondering if it's one of the Xen updates that's causing your problem
then, not kernel.

>> working one on your next upgrade. I think I saw a way to do that
>> somewhere
>> on this list.
>
> Looks I've to protect a kernel package from removal on next upgrade &
> lock one boot entry for it in grub menu . Is there a way to mark an rpm
> permanent? And since on updates grub menu is overwritten I've to
> reinstall grub manually on each upgrade, right?

That part about locking a boot entry sounds right. Apologies, don't know
much about rpm. If it's a Xen issue, you shouldn't have to mess with grub.


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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4 on USB Drive Windows Install Problems

[myblackcatisback]

Hey Campbell,

i have trouble that Qubes boot from my USB Stick.

The installing steps i following and burn the image with Rufus in the dd mode 
on my Intenso 32GB Stick.

The boot starts shortly and some commands i see. Than nothing happend. 

Can you say me maybe why Qubes not run?

Its no question to your answer, but i hope that you can help me. :)

About your message i would be happy.

regards

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Re: [qubes-users] USB Device Question

[Mike Keehan]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 15:34:20 -0400
Stuart Perkins  wrote:

> I have the following setup:
> 
> Qubes 3.2, xfce4 interface
> sys-usb
> 
> I want to be able to connect my Android phone to a vm and rsync its
> contents.  I can connect the phone and "qvm-usb -a" it to the VM, and
> it appears available under the File Manager application as
> "mtp://[usb:002,004]/" but I cannot locate a mount point to use for
> rsync.  It does not appear under /run/user/[uid]/gvfs.  Any idea
> where it mounts so I can use rsync to reference it?
> 
> Thanks in advance...
> 
> Stuart
> 

"mtp://" is the clue :)  mtp is a protocol for communication between a
phone and a computer.  I don't think rsync supports mtp.

(My old phone used to 'mount' OK when I connected it, but my new phone
doesn't - it shows up as an mtp: device.)


Mike.

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Re: [qubes-users] Strange 3.2 Multi-monitor woes? PCI device does not exist?

[Stumpy]

On 2018-04-19 13:49, awokd wrote:

On Wed, April 18, 2018 11:34 pm, Stumpy wrote:

On 2018-04-18 04:18, Stumpy wrote:


I recently added another gfx card which seemed to go smothly enough
except it apparently didn't. When I tried to plug in monitors to the
integrated video ports AND the graphics card things started going
sideways (and I can't figure out why they would?). One example is 
most
times I boot no icons show up, not in the xfce menu nor context menu 
nor
on the qubes manager, just the text. When I tried to rotate the 
monitors

(via xfce) they acted funny the wallpaper displaying strangly
but the qubes manager window showing up ok (in the same monitor at 
the

same time).


Xen might not support what you're trying to do. Can you replace the
primary graphics card with one with more ports that can drive the 
amount

of monitors you want?



doh, I hope it can. When you say might not support, are you referring to 
4 monitors or 4 monitors spread out across 2 gfx ... devices? (not sure 
what it would be called since one is integrated and the other a card 
that was plugged in). Ah, a bit detail I left out of the post, the gfx 
card model! Its a OEM AMD Radeon HD 6570 1GB DDR3 PCIe x16 DP DVI Video 
Card pulled out of an HP machine.
As for replacing, most of the cards that seemed like they would be 
compatible (AMD Radeon) cost a mint as soon as they went above the "3 
ports" threshhold, so I would *really* like to try to get my current 
setup (or the one I am aspiring to) to work before considering shelling 
out more money.


Well the integrated gfx is what is primary now, I tried setting it to 
switchable (whatever that is) and it didn't work, then to the grfx card 
and that didnt work then to the primary and they all... kinda worked, at 
least everything was getting a signal of some sort as opposed to 
consistently getting 2 out of four monitors blank.




Lastly, so far, when I try to start up
an appvm I get the following: Error starting VM  PCI device
02:00.0 does not exist (domain
)
though that happens with all the appvms and the debian templates and 
for

redhat and whonix I get: qubes manager error starting vm 'fedora-26'
maximum recursion depth exceeded


Go into Qube Settings on sys-net, Devices tab. Unmap anything listed 
there
and add your NIC back in. You might have to repeat this if you remove 
the

secondary graphics card.

Alright, thanks. I will give it a try when I get back from my trip.

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[qubes-users] Qubes 4 on USB Drive Windows Install Problems

[Campbell]

Newbie to Qubes, trying it on 64GB USB drive. Installs fine, boots fine. Qubes 
4 runs nice on the external USB drive.
I've read documentation for days now, and have searched on this mail group.

I am trying to set up a Windows VM and following the instructions in the 
Documentation, having some problems.

1) qvm-create win7 --hvm --label green returns unknown argument "--hvm"

Ran this and created the new Win appvm: 
qvm-create win7 --class StandaloneVM --property virt_mode=hvm --property 
kernel="" --property memory=4096 --property maxmem=4096 --property debug=True 
--label green
qvm-features win7 video-model cirrus

Win appvm shows up in the Qubes Manager

2) Using GUI cannot start the new windows appvm since it has no boot device, 
and cannot associate the disc drive if the vm isn't started
Question: Does Qubes on a USB drive have same features as install to HDD? Is 
Qubes on USB fully supported? I seem to recall a Template in 3.2 configured for 
Windows, but maybe I am remembering it wrong. I installed 3.2 a while back on 
an old laptop but it did not have enough RAM to run Qubes very well and I 
abandoned it at that time.

I need to figure out how to dd my Windows CD to an ISO but I figure I can look 
that one up.
Any help is appreciated. I don't know if Qubes installed on the USB has all the 
features as full install on HDD.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: inst.text boot option

[Teqleez Motley]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, at 16:20, Sergio Matta wrote:
> Em quinta-feira, 12 de abril de 2018 06:19:42 UTC-3, elbe...@gmail.com  

> Any ideas? Thank you.
> 

Just a shot in the dark, but regarding workarounds for graphics cards problems:
With Legacy BIOS boot, have you tried to add  " nouveau.modeset=0 " on the 
module code-line right after "quiet"?

Regards,
Teqleez

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Re: [qubes-users] trouble with whonix-14-dvm

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i am also following the whonix forums, if you want to follow along. i was not 
sure who to ask as I did not know if this issue was whonix or qubes. 

https://forums.whonix.org/t/whonix-14-disp-vm/5092/5

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Re: [qubes-users] my qubes 3.2 doesn't boot after installing latest Dom0 patches yestarday

[Oleg Artemiev]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:18 awokd  wrote:

> On Wed, April 18, 2018 4:20 pm, Oleg Artemiev wrote:
> > It hangs w/ NMI watchdog: BUG: softlockup - CPU0 stuck for 22 s
> > [swapper/0:0]
> > Usually it happens after loading Dom0 startup setup or netvm startup.
> >
> >
> > screen photo attached. ​
> > 20180418_190412.jpg
> > <
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwua3s7WG1liSlVZTjktNmh4c21WZDlJZ2xWTGRK
> > Zi16YThv/view?usp=drive_web>
> > ​
> > Can I get into it and roll back updates w/o reinstalling? I guees booting
> > from Qubes usb stick will get me into it. But which packages should be
> > downgraded - I just installed everything w/o recording - is anywhere a
> > log of last packages installed or a howto w/ downgrade examples?
>
> It may have been a Linux kernel update. If you can choose an earlier
> version from your boot menu, try that.

I did that - same hang for all 3 versions.


To confirm, you can see the
> installation history in /var/log/dnf.log* files. To downgrade specific
> packages, see
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#how-to-downgrade-a-specific-package
> .
>
Thank you!


If booting the earlier version works for you, you might want to use that
> instead of trying to downgrade packages but look for a way to keep more
> than just 2 versions in your default list or could accidentally lose the
>
Qubes provides 3 kernels to boot w/ by default. In my case all fail.

working one on your next upgrade. I think I saw a way to do that somewhere
> on this list.

Looks I've to protect a kernel package from removal on next upgrade & lock
one boot entry for it in grub menu . Is there a way to mark an rpm
permanent? And since on updates grub menu is overwritten I've to reinstall
grub manually on each upgrade, right?

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Re: [qubes-users] trouble with whonix-14-dvm

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oh yes apologies. I made a copy of default whonix-gw and whonix-ws, then 
upgraded as per https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Upgrading_Whonix_13_to_Whonix_14

so you say whonix-14 is available in the unstable repo? I will try this. 

when changing anon-whonix to use netvm and template for whonix-14, tor browser 
works. 

when creating a new dvm, tor browser claims not installed. 

I wanted to install whonix-14 from a premade template but did not know how. 
only instructions for upgrading from 13 to 14 on whonix.org

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[qubes-users] Re: R4.0 rc4: Devices and VM tray icons disappeared

['Антон Чехов' via qubes-users]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 12:27:25 PM UTC+2, cooloutac wrote:
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 6:19:45 AM UTC-4, Антон Чехов wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:06:16 AM UTC+1, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 6:48:22 PM UTC-5, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > After a recent reboot, the devices and VM tray icons no longer are 
> > > > appearing on boot in Xfce. I have no idea what might have caused this. 
> > > > There were no dom0 updates in the meantime. If I try to manually run 
> > > > them, e.g., python3 -mqui.tray.devices, I get the following:
> > > > 
> > > > ERROR:dbus.proxies.Introspect error on 
> > > > org.qubes.DomainManager1:/org/qubes/DomainManager1: 
> > > > dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: 
> > > > Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying
> > > > 
> > > > Followed by a backtrace, the relevant part appears to be:
> > > > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qui/tray/devices.py", line 22, 
> > > > in 
> > > >DOMAINS = qui.models.qubes.DomainManager()
> > > > 
> > > > Any advice would be appreciated, since with no icons, I'm also not 
> > > > appearing to get notifications for devices and VM actions.
> > > > 
> > > > Best,
> > > > Daniel
> > > 
> > > Interesting discovery: this problem arose as a result of setting 
> > > qrexec_timeout on an arbitrary VM to a value larger than an INT32. So the 
> > > moral of the story: Don't try to set qrexec_timeout too high!
> > > 
> > > Daniel
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am experiencing the same problem with the final version of 4.0 but I did 
> > not change a setting of qrexec_timeout. The device tray icon disappeared 
> > suddenly.
> > 
> > I am getting tons of "GTK error" when trying to run manually via "python3 
> > -mqui.tray.devices"?
> > 
> > So far I haven't been able to get the devices tray appear again but I can 
> > attach devices via command line.
> > 
> > Anyone having the same problem?
> 
> no,  weird.  have you tried to use qubes-manager at all?

Do you mean the VM manager? If so, yes! It does work with a lot of bugs like a 
lot of people reported already. I don't see all apps in the VM manager and the 
lights indicating a working app do only appear or disappear when clicking an 
app. Sometimes I forget an app is still running.
VPN apps I created don't appear in the VM manager at all, so I do need to use 
CLI.

Having a working devices tray icon would be nice, though.

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Re: [qubes-users] Small Templates

[cooloutac]

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:50:12 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> On Thursday, 19 April 2018 02:17:54 UTC+10, [ 799 ]  wrote:
> > Drew White  schrieb am Mi., 18. Apr. 2018, 02:10:
> > On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 22:22:35 UTC+10, awokd  wrote:
> > (...)
> > 
> > > fedora-minimal is pretty minimal!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > it is minimal in what it thinks is minimal, but it is still not nice and 
> > small, or what I asked about "super small"
> > 
> > 
> > You could take a look what is installed on a Qubes fedora-minimal template 
> > using dnf list installed and then remove everything you don't want.
> > 
> > 
> > Further reading:
> > https://docs-old.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-Listing_Packages.html
> > 
> > 
> > Or - in case you have already a running version of your preferred 
> > super-minimal (I think the name "fedora-nano" or "fedora-core" would be 
> > great) - you check which packages are installed there and compare it to the 
> > fedora-minimal template, then you know which packages you need to look at.
> > Make sure not to remove important qubes packages.
> 
> Pretty much, remove anything and it removes the Qubes stuff.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Out of interest:
> > What do you thing is the benefit of running a minimal fedora minimal?
> > Is it because of storage/performance capacity or because you think that 
> > this will ensure additional security? 
> 
> I don't want an insecure system that crashes every 5 seconds, so I want one 
> hat has no SystemD. Until then, smaller template.

ya but the thing about Qubes is the software is considered insecure in the 
first place.   and if your system is crashing every 5 seconds thats super 
suspicious.  and beauty about Qubes is being able to quickly wipe and reinstall 
a vm or template.   the more super custom you go the more tedious that becomes.


as far as no systemD well thats gonna be super tough.  It seems you do alot of 
tough work setting up your Qubes but it seems qubes is designed to be default 
and universal in mind.   but its funny seeing other fsf guys on the forums who 
don't want secure boot but not mentioning how much worse all software is.   I 
mean I don't know what your reasons are for not trusting systemD,  but the same 
 fingers are in all the gui's prolly too.

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[qubes-users] Re: trouble with whonix-14-dvm

[cooloutac]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 6:09:55 AM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 5:20:22 PM UTC-4, coinsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > maybe this is a whonix issue. maybe this is a qubes issue. not sure. 
> > 
> > steps...
> > 
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-create --template debian-9 --label red custom-dvm
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs custom-dvm template_for_dispvms True
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-features custom-dvm appmenus-dispvm 1
> > 
> > in my case custom-dvm=whonix-14-dvm...
> > 
> > start tor browser...
> > 
> > "Tor Browser is currently not installed.
> > (Folder /home/user/.tb/tor-browser does not exist.)
> > Start Tor Browser Downloader (by Whonix Developers)?"
> > 
> > use tor browser downloader by whonix? y
> > empty response
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > create basic appvm from template as per step 1 above...
> > qvm-create --template whonix-14-ws --label red whonix-14-dvm
> > 
> > start tor browser...
> > 
> > "Tor Browser is currently not installed.
> > (Folder /home/user/.tb/tor-browser does not exist.)
> > Start Tor Browser Downloader (by Whonix Developers)?"
> > 
> > use tor browser downloader by whonix? y
> > 
> > error: tor has not been bootstrapped!
> > 
> > this is a lie. sys-whonix-14 is running and working. 
> > all whonix docs have been followed such as applying apparmor, disabling 
> > various things like whonix-check and editing the torrc and firewall files. 
> > 
> > any help, I am thankful!
> 
>   unless you want to install tor yourself.  you gotta install whonix 
> templates not debian 9.
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/whonix/install/

heres how to make your own tor proxy. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/torvm/

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[qubes-users] Re: R4.0 rc4: Devices and VM tray icons disappeared

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On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 6:19:45 AM UTC-4, Антон Чехов wrote:
> On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:06:16 AM UTC+1, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> > On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 6:48:22 PM UTC-5, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > After a recent reboot, the devices and VM tray icons no longer are 
> > > appearing on boot in Xfce. I have no idea what might have caused this. 
> > > There were no dom0 updates in the meantime. If I try to manually run 
> > > them, e.g., python3 -mqui.tray.devices, I get the following:
> > > 
> > > ERROR:dbus.proxies.Introspect error on 
> > > org.qubes.DomainManager1:/org/qubes/DomainManager1: 
> > > dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: 
> > > Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying
> > > 
> > > Followed by a backtrace, the relevant part appears to be:
> > > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qui/tray/devices.py", line 22, in 
> > > 
> > >DOMAINS = qui.models.qubes.DomainManager()
> > > 
> > > Any advice would be appreciated, since with no icons, I'm also not 
> > > appearing to get notifications for devices and VM actions.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > Daniel
> > 
> > Interesting discovery: this problem arose as a result of setting 
> > qrexec_timeout on an arbitrary VM to a value larger than an INT32. So the 
> > moral of the story: Don't try to set qrexec_timeout too high!
> > 
> > Daniel
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am experiencing the same problem with the final version of 4.0 but I did 
> not change a setting of qrexec_timeout. The device tray icon disappeared 
> suddenly.
> 
> I am getting tons of "GTK error" when trying to run manually via "python3 
> -mqui.tray.devices"?
> 
> So far I haven't been able to get the devices tray appear again but I can 
> attach devices via command line.
> 
> Anyone having the same problem?

no,  weird.  have you tried to use qubes-manager at all?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: 4.0 not updating dom0 nor fedora?

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On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 6:10:53 AM UTC-4, Bernhard wrote:
> On 04/18/2018 03:58 PM, anon432 wrote:
> > I am getting the same error in dom0 and also getting "No New Updates" - 
> > which I know is not true.
> >
> > Does anyone have a link to a github issue where this has been filed?
> 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3737

there was a dom0 update yesterday i think did you get it? 

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[qubes-users] Re: This really sucks....

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On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 9:25:05 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> I also have a machine that I have just built that is the following..
> 
> MMCBLK is /boot and /
> 16 GB SDCard.
> Can be set as Read Only as it will not change (but r/w at the moment until I 
> know for sure.)
> 
> Log folder set on HDD.
> HDD is set as (technically) /var/lib/qubes
> 
> But I doubt that that will have any different effects than any other way that 
> I have things.

sorry for being confused.  but are you saying it fails to restore,  or just 
don't like the method it uses?

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[qubes-users] Re: R4.0 rc4: Devices and VM tray icons disappeared

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On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 1:06:16 AM UTC+1, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 6:48:22 PM UTC-5, Daniel Moerner wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > After a recent reboot, the devices and VM tray icons no longer are 
> > appearing on boot in Xfce. I have no idea what might have caused this. 
> > There were no dom0 updates in the meantime. If I try to manually run them, 
> > e.g., python3 -mqui.tray.devices, I get the following:
> > 
> > ERROR:dbus.proxies.Introspect error on 
> > org.qubes.DomainManager1:/org/qubes/DomainManager1: 
> > dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message 
> > recipient disconnected from message bus without replying
> > 
> > Followed by a backtrace, the relevant part appears to be:
> > File "/usr/lib/python3.5/site-packages/qui/tray/devices.py", line 22, in 
> > 
> >DOMAINS = qui.models.qubes.DomainManager()
> > 
> > Any advice would be appreciated, since with no icons, I'm also not 
> > appearing to get notifications for devices and VM actions.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Daniel
> 
> Interesting discovery: this problem arose as a result of setting 
> qrexec_timeout on an arbitrary VM to a value larger than an INT32. So the 
> moral of the story: Don't try to set qrexec_timeout too high!
> 
> Daniel

Hello,

I am experiencing the same problem with the final version of 4.0 but I did not 
change a setting of qrexec_timeout. The device tray icon disappeared suddenly.

I am getting tons of "GTK error" when trying to run manually via "python3 
-mqui.tray.devices"?

So far I haven't been able to get the devices tray appear again but I can 
attach devices via command line.

Anyone having the same problem?

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Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

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On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 4:00:55 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> On Thu, April 19, 2018 5:45 am, Jan Hustak wrote:
> 
> >
> > I guess there's a cognitive aspect to it as well, not related to
> > security as such. I have over 2300 packages installed on my main Debian
> > notebook, many of them not needed anymore. Cleaning them out is a tedious
> > job I never get to. If I had a VM/filesystem with "only packages needed
> > for Project X", things would be more orderly. I don't need Qubes OS for
> > that, of course, but it's an issue I seek to address in addition to
> > security. Sorry if I'm straying off topic.
> 
> It's not off topic. I've said before I'd keep using Qubes even if it
> provided no additional security over any other Linux distributions (but it
> does a lot) merely for the convenience/flexibility it provides! In your
> case then, you might want a workflow something like:
> 
> 1- Clone one of the stock templates to create a base template with common
> packages
> 2- Clone as needed for project X, install specific packages
> 3- Make Project X AppVM based on the new template
> 4- Delete project specific VMs when done
> 
> If you can figure out a union of common packages (hopefully less than
> 2300!) then you could skip step #2 some of the time and base #3 on #1.

ya don't hvm is not needed less secure.  or if making a standalone hvm no 
reason to use template.   Unless using a special os I also believe there 
already is a one called debian-minimal or something like that somewhere in 
community repos.

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[qubes-users] Re: minimum size for a qube image

[cooloutac]

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 4:50:08 PM UTC-4, Jan Hustak wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I really like Qubes' isolation approach. I would also like to isolate 
> the programs I run from code they don't need. So I want to split not 
> just my data into separate qubes, but also the software that works with 
> said data.
> 
> One way to do this is to install required software under /usr/local in 
> each qube. That has the important drawback of ignoring the qube's 
> package manager and the consistent updates it provides.
> 
> Another option is to build my qubes as StandaloneVMs copied from a 
> minimalist template. The qubes have to be updated one by one but at 
> least it's still done using the package manager.
> 
> So I created a Debian template trimmed to about 2.5 GB. I identified my 
> task domains - there were about 10 - and planned to cut a 4GB qube for 
> each. This would eat up 40 GB from my 500 GB drive which I can live with.
> 
> However, The VM Manager insists on at least 10 GB for each qube. Giving 
> up 100 GB with 75 GB empty (i.e. 15 % of total disk space) is steep. So 
> my question is: how can I create smaller images for my qubes?
> 
> I'm also open to discussing the basic concept: is it worth trying to 
> keep, for example, Firefox and GIMP in separate qubes, or should I just 
> relax and use one fat TemplateVM with the union of all packages I need?
> 
> Any advice appreciated.
> 
> jh

I think its only maximum space.  only used when needed.   it is already really 
using only a little more then 4.5 gb each default template vm,  i think.  you 
can check in the vm.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: 4.0 not updating dom0 nor fedora?

[Bernhard]

On 04/18/2018 03:58 PM, anon432 wrote:

I am getting the same error in dom0 and also getting "No New Updates" - which I 
know is not true.

Does anyone have a link to a github issue where this has been filed?


https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3737


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[qubes-users] Re: trouble with whonix-14-dvm

[cooloutac]

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 5:20:22 PM UTC-4, coinsh...@gmail.com wrote:
> maybe this is a whonix issue. maybe this is a qubes issue. not sure. 
> 
> steps...
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-create --template debian-9 --label red custom-dvm
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs custom-dvm template_for_dispvms True
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-features custom-dvm appmenus-dispvm 1
> 
> in my case custom-dvm=whonix-14-dvm...
> 
> start tor browser...
> 
> "Tor Browser is currently not installed.
> (Folder /home/user/.tb/tor-browser does not exist.)
> Start Tor Browser Downloader (by Whonix Developers)?"
> 
> use tor browser downloader by whonix? y
> empty response
> 
> ...
> 
> create basic appvm from template as per step 1 above...
> qvm-create --template whonix-14-ws --label red whonix-14-dvm
> 
> start tor browser...
> 
> "Tor Browser is currently not installed.
> (Folder /home/user/.tb/tor-browser does not exist.)
> Start Tor Browser Downloader (by Whonix Developers)?"
> 
> use tor browser downloader by whonix? y
> 
> error: tor has not been bootstrapped!
> 
> this is a lie. sys-whonix-14 is running and working. 
> all whonix docs have been followed such as applying apparmor, disabling 
> various things like whonix-check and editing the torrc and firewall files. 
> 
> any help, I am thankful!

  unless you want to install tor yourself.  you gotta install whonix templates 
not debian 9.

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/whonix/install/

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[qubes-users] Re: ProtonMail bridge

['Антон Чехов' via qubes-users]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 10:47:45 AM UTC+2, chipp...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
>  I've installed the (beta) protonmail bridge for Linux in my personal VM 
> for use with Thunderbird.  It actually worked for a while, but recently, it 
> no longer would start up.  I cannot even manually install and start the 
> bridge.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> 
> I had not done any other installs or changes that could be associated with 
> the bridge not starting.
>   Part of my troubleshootin included going to the seperate directories 
> and removing the installed items from the original install, and removing the 
> directories that were created during the install, and then re-attempting a 
> fresh install - No Joy.
> 
> Any help/recommendations would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> Chip

Have you tried installing the bridge in a templateVM like debian9?
I have installed the bridge in both Qubes 3.2 and Qubes 4 in the template 
debian 9.
Then I created an app based on debian 9 called protonmail where I started the 
bridge and put all my credentials in and connected it to Thunderbird like 
described in their instructions. 

Worked well for me ever since. Updates have to be installed in the templateVM 
as well. It shouldn't be anything different from other programmes or scripts 
like tasket's VPN which should als be installed in a templateVM.I haven't tried 
fedora but I guess it would work. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot pass USB drive to Windows HVM

[cooloutac]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 2:00:09 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote:
> On Thursday, 19 April 2018 07:33:43 UTC+10, Nico De Musso  wrote:
> > If only i can find a way to upgrade Fedora 20 to Fedora 27 i would revert 
> > back with Qubes 2 since in Windows HVM audio and usb is working.
> 
> Audio works fine for me in 3.2.
> USB doesn't work in Qubes with Windows though.
> 
> Has not worked ever really. USB passthrough never functioned. I complained, 
> it never got fixed. So don't expect it to get fixed anytime soon.

I never got audio or usb passthrough ever working in my windows.   but you can 
transfer files to other vms just fine.

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[qubes-users] Re: my qubes 3.2 doesn't boot after installing latest Dom0 patches yestarday

[cooloutac]

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 12:20:05 PM UTC-4, Oleg Artemiev wrote:
> It hangs w/ NMI watchdog: BUG: softlockup - CPU0 stuck for 22 s [swapper/0:0]
> Usually it happens after loading Dom0 startup setup or netvm startup.
> 
> screen photo attached.
> 
> ​
> 
>  20180418_190412.jpg​
> 
> Can I get into it and roll back updates w/o reinstalling? I guees booting 
> from Qubes usb stick will get me into it. But which packages should be 
> downgraded - I just installed everything w/o recording - is anywhere a log of 
> last packages installed or a howto w/ downgrade examples?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bye.Olli.
> gpg --search-keys grey_olli , use key w/ fingerprint below:
> Key fingerprint = 9901 6808 768C 8B89 544C  9BE0 49F9 5A46 2B98 147E
> Blog keys (the blog is mostly in Russian): 
> http://grey-olli.livejournal.com/tag/

dualbooting?

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Re: [qubes-users] Strange 3.2 Multi-monitor woes? PCI device does not exist?

['awokd' via qubes-users]

On Wed, April 18, 2018 11:34 pm, Stumpy wrote:
> On 2018-04-18 04:18, Stumpy wrote:
>
>> I recently added another gfx card which seemed to go smothly enough
>> except it apparently didn't. When I tried to plug in monitors to the
>> integrated video ports AND the graphics card things started going
>> sideways (and I can't figure out why they would?). One example is most
>> times I boot no icons show up, not in the xfce menu nor context menu nor
>> on the qubes manager, just the text. When I tried to rotate the monitors
>> (via xfce) they acted funny the wallpaper displaying strangly
>> but the qubes manager window showing up ok (in the same monitor at the
>> same time).

Xen might not support what you're trying to do. Can you replace the
primary graphics card with one with more ports that can drive the amount
of monitors you want?

>> Lastly, so far, when I try to start up
>> an appvm I get the following: Error starting VM  PCI device
>> 02:00.0 does not exist (domain
>> )
>> though that happens with all the appvms and the debian templates and for
>> redhat and whonix I get: qubes manager error starting vm 'fedora-26'
>> maximum recursion depth exceeded

Go into Qube Settings on sys-net, Devices tab. Unmap anything listed there
and add your NIC back in. You might have to repeat this if you remove the
secondary graphics card.


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[qubes-users] ProtonMail bridge

[chipperh61]

Hello,
 I've installed the (beta) protonmail bridge for Linux in my personal VM 
for use with Thunderbird.  It actually worked for a while, but recently, it no 
longer would start up.  I cannot even manually install and start the bridge.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I had not done any other installs or changes that could be associated with the 
bridge not starting.
  Part of my troubleshootin included going to the seperate directories and 
removing the installed items from the original install, and removing the 
directories that were created during the install, and then re-attempting a 
fresh install - No Joy.

Any help/recommendations would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,
Chip

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Re: [qubes-users] trouble with whonix-14-dvm

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On Wed, April 18, 2018 9:20 pm, coinshark...@gmail.com wrote:
> maybe this is a whonix issue. maybe this is a qubes issue. not sure.
>
> steps...
>
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-create --template debian-9 --label red custom-dvm
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-prefs custom-dvm template_for_dispvms True
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-features custom-dvm appmenus-dispvm 1
>
>
> in my case custom-dvm=whonix-14-dvm...
>
> start tor browser...
>
> "Tor Browser is currently not installed.
> (Folder /home/user/.tb/tor-browser does not exist.)
> Start Tor Browser Downloader (by Whonix Developers)?"
>
>
> use tor browser downloader by whonix? y empty response

Are you trying to build your own Whonix WS 14 template based on debian-9?
You might want to begin by installing the one in unstable first and
working from there.

Qubes does some additional steps to support Whonix 13- see the salt
command on https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/whonix/install/#install-templates.
If you're trying to make a DVM off the Whonix 14 ws template, per
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3595, I think you also need
something like (not tested!) "qvm-features whonix-ws-14 whonix-ws 1".

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4 ISO..

[Foppe de Haan]

On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 3:42:18 AM UTC+2, Drew White wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> Is there anywhere I can find out what the Qubes 4 ISO contains to install?
> Are there any minimal install versions?

Hi Drew,

basically the same elements as the r3.2 installer contained. No, there is no 
minimal installer.

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Re: [qubes-users] my qubes 3.2 doesn't boot after installing latest Dom0 patches yestarday

['awokd' via qubes-users]

On Wed, April 18, 2018 4:20 pm, Oleg Artemiev wrote:
> It hangs w/ NMI watchdog: BUG: softlockup - CPU0 stuck for 22 s
> [swapper/0:0]
> Usually it happens after loading Dom0 startup setup or netvm startup.
>
>
> screen photo attached. ​
> 20180418_190412.jpg
>  Zi16YThv/view?usp=drive_web>
> ​
> Can I get into it and roll back updates w/o reinstalling? I guees booting
> from Qubes usb stick will get me into it. But which packages should be
> downgraded - I just installed everything w/o recording - is anywhere a
> log of last packages installed or a howto w/ downgrade examples?

It may have been a Linux kernel update. If you can choose an earlier
version from your boot menu, try that. To confirm, you can see the
installation history in /var/log/dnf.log* files. To downgrade specific
packages, see
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/software-update-dom0/#how-to-downgrade-a-specific-package.
If booting the earlier version works for you, you might want to use that
instead of trying to downgrade packages but look for a way to keep more
than just 2 versions in your default list or could accidentally lose the
working one on your next upgrade. I think I saw a way to do that somewhere
on this list.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes not boot from USB Stick

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On Tue, April 17, 2018 5:31 pm, alex.montag1...@gmail.com wrote:

> hello, i have the same problem. i think it is a problem with a dedicated
> gpu. it is not possible to deactivated my gpu in the bios. i think if
> change the parameter in the bootXX.cfg it is possible to start the
> install also i can't change the parameter. ps: qubes 3.2 run without
> problems on my mibook 13"

Can you boot and install in legacy mode? Might want to try that first. If
not, and assuming you are using UEFI, see here how to edit the
configuration options for the installer:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/#change-installer-kernel-parameters-in-uefi

If you want to try to disable your secondary graphics, add
xen-pciback.hide=(02:00.0) to boot options. 02:00.0 is an example, check
first by booting with a Debian CD or something and do a "sudo lspci" to
find the actual BDF.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot pass USB drive to Windows HVM

[Drew White]

On Thursday, 19 April 2018 07:33:43 UTC+10, Nico De Musso  wrote:
> If only i can find a way to upgrade Fedora 20 to Fedora 27 i would revert 
> back with Qubes 2 since in Windows HVM audio and usb is working.

Audio works fine for me in 3.2.
USB doesn't work in Qubes with Windows though.

Has not worked ever really. USB passthrough never functioned. I complained, it 
never got fixed. So don't expect it to get fixed anytime soon.

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