[RBW] FS: Phil riv hub wheelset
This wheelset needs to find a happy home on a Homer. Built as a second go fast wheelset for my Hilsen, but just ended up not seeing much use. Beautiful wheels hand built by our local wheel guru. About 500 miles on these. No skewers. Phil riv front hub, 32H - $160 Phil riv rear hub 135 7sp, 32H - $180 Velocity Aerohead rims (silver) - $50 x 2 = $100 IRD 7sp Freewheel 13x28 - $50 Spokes x 64 = $64 Built Cost = $30 x 2 = $60 Total retail = $614 Sorry, I don't know what type of spokes were used, but they seem beefy and I've never had a problem (or even needed truing) with any of this builder's wheels. They can go to a new home and make your Homer happy for $490 shipped in the continental 48. Bob H. Knoxville, TN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shifter location
HIi all, On my year-old Atlantis I had it built with bar ends, because I have exprience with them on an ol road bike.However, I am a bit sorry that I did not have the bike built with DT shifting.Fisrt of all, I have a tendency to bump the shifters when I am straddleing the bike. This has lead to me knocking the chain off the front cogs twice with on serious chain suck incident wich resulted in me having to remove the crank to free the chain and to do some toucb up paint work on an otherwise pristine bike. And I had to take the subway home!! ugh. Also I fine that I rarely shift anyway--I only use about 3 or 4 of my umpteen grears and I never use the innermost chaining of my tripple crank. There are few mountains in Brooklyn and Long Island where I ride. When its time to change the bar tapes, I might consider a re- organization. Have a great Thanksgiving--I hope to go for a ride weather permitting this week end. On Nov 25, 5:54 pm, George Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lisa - you already sound like a mature cyclist who knows that constant shifting is for the most part unnecessary. So your conversion to brifters was one of convenience and, as long as you are willing to spend the extra money to buy them and endure the monetary loss you'll incur should you crash and destroy them, it's a fine personal decision. But, as you say, many cyclists want top-end bikes that come equipped that way whether they really need them or not. Just like a lot of other things over the years, like cassettes equipped with 8, 9 and now 10 cogs, the manufacturers pull various things down from the racing crowd and dangle them over consumers like a stick and carrot. It's these folks, no doubt, who are shifting all over the place whether they need to or not. It's kind of sad because in some ways they've been sold a bill of goods as a status symbol and never really get the chance to develop fundamental cycling skills. George On Nov 25, 8:33 am, Lisa -S.H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Schick wrote: Seems like DT shifters also train you to shift only when you really need to - I've ridden along with people who have brifter-equipped bikes and all I ever heard was shifting going on for the slightest little rise or drop in elevation. I had bar end shifters on my Rambouillet for 2 years while it was my only bike. I noticed that over the course of two years I slowly began to shift less often for slight elevation variations. Part of this is because I got a little stronger. I think that many of these riders who shift obsessively are likely to be less experienced riders or just weekend short-ride type riders who have not put in a lot of mileage. I suspect they will shift less frequently as they ride more. Keep in mind that most novice riders these days are buying bikes that typically have brifters. That includes novice riders full-out clad in racing kits as well. ;) I think if these novices were starting on bar end or DT shifters they'd still be shifting more frequently than necessary. I just finished changing my Ramb's bar-ends to brifters (for several reasons) and I don't think I am shifting much more often than I did on my bar ends. I have the same gearing setup as before, and I tend to have my favorite gears already 'assigned' in my head for certain segments and hills of my common routes. I expect as I continue to get stronger I will continue to shift less often. Lisa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: First Look at Our Holiday Flyer
John: That's a wonderful offer to help out those who've been hurt by the economy. Kudos to Rivendell for doing what you can. Maybe your stimulus package will start a trend. As you say, we're all in this together. Now to get with the holiday shopping! BTW, how did Rivendell pick Sam Hilborne to immortalize in a bicycle? dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John at Rivendell Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:36 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] First Look at Our Holiday Flyer It is here, if you follow the link in this link. http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/86 It says The Holiday Flyer (is here). Or at least I hope it is. It will be mailed later this week, too. Happy Thanksgiving, John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: First Look at Our Holiday Flyer
I say the same. Thanks on behalf of all those who can make use of this offer. Patrick, who can't, Moore On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Doug Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John: That's a wonderful offer to help out those who've been hurt by the economy. Kudos to Rivendell for doing what you can. Maybe your stimulus package will start a trend. As you say, we're all in this together. Now to get with the holiday shopping! BTW, how did Rivendell pick Sam Hilborne to immortalize in a bicycle? dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John at Rivendell Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:36 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] First Look at Our Holiday Flyer It is here, if you follow the link in this link. http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/86 It says The Holiday Flyer (is here). Or at least I hope it is. It will be mailed later this week, too. Happy Thanksgiving, John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Broken Rambouillet
That's the bike, all right. I remember now that the frame had been pinned together before it was brazed, and the pin was still there. The glue and hose clamp were there to hold it together. Patrick Shea doesn't show up in the official results (here: http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/EN/index.php?showpage=283) but as you say that probably wasn't due to the bike. 2007 was a very tough year at PBP. --Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Nov 26, 2008, at 10:20 AM, jim g wrote: On Nov 24, 10:47 am, Eric Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At PBP last year, there was a rider whose Rivendell Road Standard cracked and broke at the junction between the top of one of the seatstays and the seat lug. He cobbled together a fix involving a screw and a hose clamp and was able to do the ride (I lost track of whether he completed the ride, but the bike at least was able to be ridden). I know that guy. I THINK he DNF'd, but not because of the frame issue. Photo of the hack-fix (not mine): http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2056918651/ -Jim G --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Is the Ram the closest thing to perfect bike? I think so.
After building my wife's 48cm Bleriot, I saw another on this list, more in my size than the Rambouillet I was riding. I preferred the Rambouillet's feel to my older Riv Road Std (I still miss that open fork crown!), but my commute now takes me through a few hundred yards of sand wash, and the laptop loaded and fendered Rambouillet was not happy going through this challenge in the dark (the wash is marked as a 'road'). Likewise, my hands did not appreciate some of the old Tucson aggregate cum gravel roads on the (ugh!) 32mm TG Paselas. There was some serious envy as I eyed the CdV's on the new Bleriot. Having read some of the posts on trail, and others on the modulation of the new Silver brakes (in particular by a stong proponent of cantis), I wasn't sure about what to expect. Needless to say I'm thoroughly enjoying the Bleriot, and find it superior to the Rambouillet for my current needs. The tires are sooo much nicer on these old roads; I can ride the wash clear through every time now. I am amazed with the brakes. Yes, I'd like to try a set of the Paul's, more for their looks than for any needed improvement in function. I don't think I press the Bleriot descending as much as I did the Rambouillet, maybe that's because I'm loaded more often now than then. Timing myself to the bus station, there is no measurable difference between the two bikes, but I am far, far more comfortable with the fatter 650b's. We'll try to do the annual Riv ride next year; maybe then I'll get a chance on an AHH. But then we wouldn't have our matching bikes any more! Will try to get some pictures on Flickr soon. Chris Tucson, AZ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shifter location
Kelly Take Off shifter mounts put DT levers just inboard of the hoods. I believe they are out of production, but the web site's still up. See http://www.kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html. They are sporadically available on e-bay. I have never used them, but they did have their fans. I started cycling long before indexing and used DT shifters for years, both friction and indexed. Now, I have bikes with indexed and non- indexed bar ends, Ergo brifters and Grip Shifts and I have no desire to go back to DT shifters. I have my bars set high enough that it's an uncomfortably long reach to the DT bosses. I no longer see friction DT shifting as a 'fundamental cycling skill' as I once did. I cannot recall malfunctioning indexing ever keeping me from finishing a ride. Now, knowing how to ride smoothly in a paceline, or how to wipe the tires to prevent a flat after riding through debris, or to put a hand on the shoulder of the rider along side you while looking back to check traffic so you don't run into him, or how to jump an obstacle rather than swerving around it, or how to remove a jacket and stow it safely without stopping and getting off the bike, those are fundamental skills that I see lacking in a lot of new cyclists (or cyclists that don't have mentors to show them the ropes). I also don't tend to think that frequient shifting is a sign of a lack of skill or experience as some have expressed. A lack of strength, maybe. I shift as often as I need to to keep from over-stressing my knees or fatiguing my legs unnecessarily. I've always been more spinner than masher, so I like to keep my cadence up. I shifted a lot when I was fitter than I am today, just within a higher range of gears than I use now! Bill On Nov 26, 10:06 am, Seth Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a good location for non-brifters if you're on the hoods most of the time? I've found DT shifters are a bit of a stretch for me and bar ends are okay, but kind of an odd movement from the drops. I've actually though about the thumbies mounted on the flats but that seems like a weird motion too. The most comfortable for bar ends is the albatross bars b/c your hands and the shifters are right there next to each other all the time. Is there another location or type of shift lever to try out? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shifter location
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Seth Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a good location for non-brifters if you're on the hoods most of the time? I've found DT shifters are a bit of a stretch for me and bar ends are okay, but kind of an odd movement from the drops. I've actually though about the thumbies mounted on the flats but that seems like a weird motion too. Remember that much of comfort and convenience comes from familiarity. DT shifters -- this on a 58 cm with highish saddle and low dt to accomodate 559 wheels -- were for me perfectly comfortable and convenient when you get used to them; and I'm an old and stiff 53 -- with short arms!! But I personally don't see any reason not to put thumbshifters on drop bar flats. Me, I got rid of the shifting problem by doing away with multiple gears. Works fine! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shifter location
SV: A few years back someone made a shifter that attached to the handlebars IIRC it looked like a wing nut. Can't recall who had them (maybe Riv?) but maybe this will jog a better memory than mine. I've tried thumbies on the tops. It's a cheap experiment. It didn't work for me but there are others who are very happy with that set-up. They're close at hand yet out of the way as far as bumping them with your knees. Give it a go. dougP Is there a good location for non-brifters if you're on the hoods most of the time? I've found DT shifters are a bit of a stretch for me and bar ends are okay, but kind of an odd movement from the drops. I've actually though about the thumbies mounted on the flats but that seems like a weird motion too. The most comfortable for bar ends is the albatross bars b/c your hands and the shifters are right there next to each other all the time. Is there another location or type of shift lever to try out? -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shifter location
I wondered when on the SS missionaries would be tempted to open a post with a reference to shifting in the subject line. dougP Patrick observed: But I personally don't see any reason not to put thumbshifters on drop bar flats. Me, I got rid of the shifting problem by doing away with multiple gears. Works fine! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Touch-up Paint for Sage Green Atlantis
Dear RBW Group, Any suggestions on what I should use? Thanks, Rich --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touch-up Paint for Sage Green Atlantis
on 11/26/08 5:03 PM, Boogarich at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions on what I should use? Seafoam Green, like the stock color? Your handy evolving reference: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/color.html Sage Green, like the customs? Not sure... - Jim -- Jim Edgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Classics Bicycle Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc Cross Bike Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx Single Speed Garage Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg Working Bikes Practical Hardware - http://www.cyclofiend.com/working Work Shops of the iBob's - http://www.cyclofiend.com/shop Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Broken Rambouillet
on 11/26/08 11:14 AM, Eric Norris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the bike, all right. I remember now that the frame had been pinned together before it was brazed, and the pin was still there. The glue and hose clamp were there to hold it together. Patrick Shea doesn't show up in the official results (here: http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/EN/index.php?showpage=283) but as you say that probably wasn't due to the bike. 2007 was a very tough year at PBP. Patrick I shared a little parrallel ride time after the SFR 200K ride last January. He described a very difficult PBP (his second or third attempt), falling asleep while riding, losing feeling in his arms hands. I don't recall exactly if he finally could no longer raise his arms or couldn't lean on them. But, it was a physical limit which caught him up. - Jim -- Jim Edgar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - Send them here - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and rode several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew, and went in. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shifter location
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Doug Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered when on the SS missionaries would be tempted to open a post with a reference to shifting in the subject line. dougP That's fixed missionaries to you, young man. Patrick enlightened, converted, happy ex-gear obsesser Moore --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
