Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
If you like lugged steel bikes with traditional geometries, you just can't find a new bike in the $500 price range that compares to the golden age 70's and 80's (and early 90's bridgestone) bikes out there.There were some seriously high quality steel frames made back then.I have a few vintage bikes in my stable, and it sometimes amazes me that they were at one time, in my lifetime, standard fare at the bike shop. I agree that you don't want to spend a lot on a rig in need of major TLC, but there are tons of 20+ year old bikes that have pretty much never been ridden. One of my best bikes is one that was made in 1983 that I picked up several years ago, and which has served me well for those years and tens of thousands of miles of transport. Now, it only fits 28's with fenders- but has similar geometry to a Rivendell, rack and fender mounts, high quality steel, unbelievably nice shaped and filed lugs, and terrific ride characteristics and comfort. I love riding that bike, and in about a half hour will begin putting another 30 miles on it. BUT I also wholeheartedly agree with EricP. If you want a 700c bike with better tire/fender clearances (larger than 28s)- and this is a fundamentally important feature to those who are accustomed to larger tires- vintage is definitely not where to look (unless it's an early Rivendell Allrounder or something unusual). Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning Updated: Bars, tires, brake levers, crank
Hey Michael - Do you still have the pair of Jack Brown 700c x 33.3 mm for 70$ ?? Paypal ?? Will you take 60$ Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell phrase game
I find it pleasing that Rivendell Bicycle Works is an anagram of Bicycler Loved Wrinkles. On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:52:38 PM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Lest it be forgotten: Rivendell Bicycle Works: Nobody, but nobody makes a monkey out of us http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8637421717/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Little Big Ben first impressions
Decided to quickly measure my Baby Bens. They seem to be sitting between 36 and 37mm on Salsa Delgado rims. Our weather has been cool and it has been only five days. Do expect that in another few weeks they will relax out to 38 or so. Have noticed that so far, these tires are more U shaped on the Salsa rims. Rather than a full, round C shape that the Racers were. Still like the tires. They increase my confidence in riding the loose junk at the side of the road, aka spring road conditions in Minnesota. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Jeff Lesperance jeff.lespera...@gmail.comwrote: I have the lil' bens on my LHT - my rear wheel has a 24.5mm wide Alex Adventurer rim, and the lil' ben measures 38mm there and I have a Mavic Dyad on the front, a 24mm wide rim, and the lil' ben measures 38mm, maybe 38.5 there. To note, I recently switched to the lil' ben's from a set of 700x45 Resist Nomads, that measured in around 42mm on the same rims. The lil' ben's are nice, though I only have about 50 miles on them so I can't give a full review yet, but man, I have to say, those Resist Nomad's have got to be the best bang for the buck tire I've ridden in a long time. Sure the extra volume helps, so it's not fair to compare the two tires to each other, but it has me wishing there was a size between the big ben and lil' ben so I could fit them with fenders on most any of my rides. I'm going to give the lil' ben's a fair chance for sure, but I miss the plush ride the Nomads gave. -Jeff On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Rusty Click click...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Eric, I'm also looking at putting the Lil Ben's on my Hillborne. Do they come close to the advertised 700X38? I know the Schwalbe Greenguards I'm running are closer to 35's. BTW, that's a great looking set-up you have there! Cheers, Rusty On Saturday, April 6, 2013 9:13:53 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: Was able to get a 35 mile ride today and only got partly soaked by the rain. Installed the Schwalbe Baby Big Bens on the Hillborne last night. They are definitely heavier than the Marathon Racers they replaced. Didn't notice then being any slower. Could be that I'm not fast in the first place. Didn't do any non-paved riding as it has been too wet. Was able to ride with confience on the sides of the road where there is a lot of gravel, sand and other detrius leftover from the winter. Quite a bit more confidence inspiring than the Racers. Again, it's only one ride, and other folks may have entirely different impressions of the tires. But I like 'em. Photo of them on the Hillborne - http://www.flickr.com/photos/** 14126468@N05/8626421738/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/8626421738/in/photostream Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: White Industries pedals, Brooks Pro saddle
White Indistries pedals in silver, really nice spinning pedals in very good condition, $125 shipped Brooks Brown Pro saddle, large copper rivets, chrome rails, no bag loops, still nice and firm, just starting to break in, nice patina $80.00 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Sackville bags for sale.
The Trunk Bag is sold. On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:26:19 PM UTC-4, shawn wrote: Eric, The bag is yours. Please check your e-mail for details. Cheers On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:10:00 PM UTC-4, EGNolan wrote: Sorry, I sent you an e-mail Shawn, but hadn't heard back. I'll take the Trunksack if it's available, I'm semi-local to ya, I can pick it up or meet somewhere. Best, Eric N. Indpls, IN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Spring arrives in Delaware!
We had 90 degrees yesterday. Went straight from 3 winter layers and fleece tights to short sleeves, shorts, sunscreen and dehydration. I would love to have some weather in the 70s. It's really weird having summer temperatures with all the street trees flowering. On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 19:57 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Ah, indeed... I squeezed in a much-needed mountain bike loop last evening... Punishment never felt so good. Can't wait to see the lineup of bikes this weekend on the Water Gap Adventure Ride, especially the selections from the Allingham stable. The Mystery Bike looks terrific, Tom. The weather forecast calls for excellent weather. We've got a fantastic route planned. Any last-minute stragglers are most welcome to join... Peace, Bobby On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:43:26 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: 75 degrees at 6 this morning – my kind of weather! Headed out on my Homer with a couple of my friends on carbon, and a fellow I had not met before who was riding a pretty Moots that he rode cross country last year (he didn’t know what his bike was made of!). Beautiful loop on country roads from Wilmington out into Pennsylvania mushroom country around Kennett Square. I was able to hang with the fast boys for most of the 25 mile loop, and when I got dropped it certainly wasn’t Homer’s fault -- I need a little time in the saddle after a long winter. No pics, working too hard to keep up. But then I put Homer back in the garage and hauled out the proto-App for my normal 5 mile commute along the Brandywine Creek – which, as the picture says, never gets old. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8636761157/in/photostream Just about a perfect morning, all in all. Looking forward to riding the Delaware Water Gap with Bobby Birmingham and some East Coasters this weekend – among my two sons and me, we’ll be taking my Atlantis, Rohloff Bombadil, and the proto-Appaloosa. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:26 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Hugh and Dave. I enjoyed the photos tho' I didn't recognize any particular route or scene except perhaps Hugh's view of the main drag. But I do recall the typical landscape and fauna -- SoCal has more than its fair share of beauty, and I say this as one who loves the beauty of NM. Look fwd to seeing the Santa Monica mountain pics, too. And if anyone gets closer to Malibu -- Calabasas, Las Virgines Road area, and the state park that used to belong to 20th Century Fox Ranch -- Malibu Creek State Park it's called now -- please post any photos of those -- remember hiking the trails in the Malibu mountains back in the late '70s. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:18 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Here's another Patrick http://www.flickr.com/photos/**pedalpusher61/sets/ **72157633188706315/http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633188706315/ Hugh On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:30:43 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks! On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I think you skipped over them :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/sets/** 72157633189393041/with/**8630946704/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157633189393041/with/8630946704/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/**rperks1/sets/**72157633193081781/http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157633193081781/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/**machiko/8633236512/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/machiko/8633236512/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/**bwedgar/sets/**72157633193342177/with/** 8632458552/http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/sets/72157633193342177/with/8632458552/ Doug may have taken some, I don't think Evan did. Am I forgetting any? Cheers, David On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comwrote: Did I miss photos of the 4/7 Ventura ride, or are these still pending? I'd love to see the area again after 30 years. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Bryan bwed...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to organize a Santa Monica Mountains/Topanga State Park ride at some point during the late spring or summer. That area is pretty close to where I live. As you guys know, there's some great riding there with lots of dirt and amazing ocean views. The trails can be a bit crowded, though. We might be able to fit in another inland ride in the meantime, before it really heats up. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__** __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__** __ -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco Bullmoose 58 $115; Marathon Duremes + tubes $60; Oury grips $10--all plus shipping
Tires have been sold. On Sunday, April 7, 2013 1:00:50 PM UTC-4, Christian wrote: Hi everyone, --Bosco Bullmoose 58cm bar in excellent shape. $115 plus shipping --one pair Schwalbe folding Marathon Duremes plus tubes, 700 x 50, in excellent shape. $60 plus shipping --one pair Oury grips, black, $10 plus shipping Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cwmcmillen/sets/72157633188790126/ If these prices are out of line let me know. I can be flexible, but please be reasonable. PayPal please. Thanks, Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: April 7 SoCal Rive Ride in Ventura
D'oh, I knew I forgot someone's photos!!! Cheers, David On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:26 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:26 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks, Hugh and Dave. I enjoyed the photos tho' I didn't recognize any particular route or scene except perhaps Hugh's view of the main drag. But I do recall the typical landscape and fauna -- SoCal has more than its fair share of beauty, and I say this as one who loves the beauty of NM. Look fwd to seeing the Santa Monica mountain pics, too. And if anyone gets closer to Malibu -- Calabasas, Las Virgines Road area, and the state park that used to belong to 20th Century Fox Ranch -- Malibu Creek State Park it's called now -- please post any photos of those -- remember hiking the trails in the Malibu mountains back in the late '70s. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:18 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Here's another Patrick http://www.flickr.com/photos/** pedalpusher61/sets/**72157633188706315/http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633188706315/ Hugh On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:30:43 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks! On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: I think you skipped over them :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/sets/** 72157633189393041/with/**8630946704/http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157633189393041/with/8630946704/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/**rperks1/sets/**72157633193081781/http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157633193081781/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/**machiko/8633236512/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/machiko/8633236512/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/**bwedgar/sets/**72157633193342177/with/* *8632458552/http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwedgar/sets/72157633193342177/with/8632458552/ Doug may have taken some, I don't think Evan did. Am I forgetting any? Cheers, David On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comwrote: Did I miss photos of the 4/7 Ventura ride, or are these still pending? I'd love to see the area again after 30 years. On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Bryan bwed...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to organize a Santa Monica Mountains/Topanga State Park ride at some point during the late spring or summer. That area is pretty close to where I live. As you guys know, there's some great riding there with lots of dirt and amazing ocean views. The trails can be a bit crowded, though. We might be able to fit in another inland ride in the meantime, before it really heats up. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__** __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__** __ -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning Updated: Bars, tires, brake levers, crank
Sold them already Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net wrote: Hey Michael - Do you still have the pair of Jack Brown 700c x 33.3 mm for 70$ ?? Paypal ?? Will you take 60$ Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
Check out the Giant Via1W. It's made of steel and its price list is $600. It's the only steel bike in that range and purpose that I could find for a friend who asked a similar question. René -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
Torker also makes some good stuff in this price range: www.torkerusa.com/bikes/commute/ On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:12:26 PM UTC-4, EastBayGuy wrote: So my little sister is looking into getting a new/First bike. she plans on going on a few S240's and will be commuting in the somewhat flat Davis, Ca area. She is on a College Grad/working at Panera Budget. My question is does anyone have any recommendations for a decent off the shelf bike that is capable of strapping some gear onto and heading into the hills? Thanks in Advance.. Dustin G WC Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
I would strongly recommend going the used/craigslist route. Such a better value, she can get SUCH a better bike going that way, even if she wants to take it to the LBS to get a full tune-up/service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: White Industries pedals, Brooks Pro saddle
Are those Urban Platform pedals? If so then I am interested! Alex St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:23 AM, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: White Indistries pedals in silver, really nice spinning pedals in very good condition, $125 shipped Brooks Brown Pro saddle, large copper rivets, chrome rails, no bag loops, still nice and firm, just starting to break in, nice patina $80.00 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Spring arrives in Delaware!
We're having thundersnow in the Minneapolis, Minnesota area today. Already a few inches on the ground. Until today was out riding most days even if it was cold. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: We had 90 degrees yesterday. Went straight from 3 winter layers and fleece tights to short sleeves, shorts, sunscreen and dehydration. I would love to have some weather in the 70s. It's really weird having summer temperatures with all the street trees flowering. On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 19:57 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Ah, indeed... I squeezed in a much-needed mountain bike loop last evening... Punishment never felt so good. Can't wait to see the lineup of bikes this weekend on the Water Gap Adventure Ride, especially the selections from the Allingham stable. The Mystery Bike looks terrific, Tom. The weather forecast calls for excellent weather. We've got a fantastic route planned. Any last-minute stragglers are most welcome to join... Peace, Bobby On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:43:26 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: 75 degrees at 6 this morning – my kind of weather! Headed out on my Homer with a couple of my friends on carbon, and a fellow I had not met before who was riding a pretty Moots that he rode cross country last year (he didn’t know what his bike was made of!). Beautiful loop on country roads from Wilmington out into Pennsylvania mushroom country around Kennett Square. I was able to hang with the fast boys for most of the 25 mile loop, and when I got dropped it certainly wasn’t Homer’s fault -- I need a little time in the saddle after a long winter. No pics, working too hard to keep up. But then I put Homer back in the garage and hauled out the proto-App for my normal 5 mile commute along the Brandywine Creek – which, as the picture says, never gets old. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8636761157/in/photostream Just about a perfect morning, all in all. Looking forward to riding the Delaware Water Gap with Bobby Birmingham and some East Coasters this weekend – among my two sons and me, we’ll be taking my Atlantis, Rohloff Bombadil, and the proto-Appaloosa. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Rivendell phrase game
Rivendell ...
Past, Present, Future, no need to be linear about it
Ted
On Tuesday, April 9, 2013, Michael Williams wrote:
I was riding home on my commute tonight. It consists a bit of trails and
pavement.I couldnt help but think how capable Rivendell bikes are.
Thought it be a fun game to make up phrases about Riv bikes because Im sure
there are alot of folks out there who are enamored with their bike(s) as I
am. I'll start Rivendell Bikes: Stunningly Capable-Mike
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[RBW] Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
I just bought a '97 Rivendell from a gent on craigslist. I forgot to ask him what model it is! I'll probably bug him today to be sure, but is there a way to tell the model from the serial? My BB is stamped Everest on one side, and H970XX on the other side. Handcrafted in Waterford on the chain stay. Other scooby clues: It's red with cream head tube Has a Rivendell logo boss, not Atlantis or Rambouillet Has sidepull brakes, not canti Anyone know? I've been very interested in Rivendells since I got back into biking a couple years ago, but this is the first one I've touched. Now if it will only stop raining... Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetre gash: to replace or not replace?
I was cycling with my brother in Switzerland a few years back, and he got a cut in the side-wall of his tyre big enough for my little finger to fit through. I asked if he had a banknote on him, and he produced a 200 franc note, which I used to boot the tyre. We only re-inflated it to about 30 psi as even with the boot, the cut was bulging a bit at that pressure. The tyre lasted the rest of the day and quite a few more kilometres until we got to a town with a bike shop, but he got a bit worried towards the end of the day when I suggested that maybe the squirming around of the tyre due to the low pressure was gradually wearing all the print off his banknote - 200 francs equates to about $215. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:25 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Boot that for sure! I carry a tiny square of tyvek in my kit as an emergency boot. Many of us have used a dollar bill as a boot. On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:00:59 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote: Thanks everyone. Guess I was overreacting. I went ahead and applied a boot and remounted it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/0C2WbFtiswg/unsubscribe?hl=en-US . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Rivendell phrase game
perfect From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ted Shwartz Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:19 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Rivendell phrase game Rivendell ... Past, Present, Future, no need to be linear about it Ted On Tuesday, April 9, 2013, Michael Williams wrote: I was riding home on my commute tonight. It consists a bit of trails and pavement.I couldnt help but think how capable Rivendell bikes are. Thought it be a fun game to make up phrases about Riv bikes because Im sure there are alot of folks out there who are enamored with their bike(s) as I am. I'll start Rivendell Bikes: Stunningly Capable-Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
From 1997, I'd reckon it was the Road Standard. Here is the page I still haven't completed, that at least has the original three models, with some very rough notes. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
We're not going to help until you post pictures. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: I just bought a '97 Rivendell from a gent on craigslist. I forgot to ask him what model it is! I'll probably bug him today to be sure, but is there a way to tell the model from the serial? My BB is stamped Everest on one side, and H970XX on the other side. Handcrafted in Waterford on the chain stay. Other scooby clues: It's red with cream head tube Has a Rivendell logo boss, not Atlantis or Rambouillet Has sidepull brakes, not canti Anyone know? I've been very interested in Rivendells since I got back into biking a couple years ago, but this is the first one I've touched. Now if it will only stop raining... Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New AHH build drivetrain problem
Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution. Frame: 65 AHH, Waterford, 135 spacing, 1 TT, new Crank: Sugino XD2 road double 48-34 BB: Shimano UN-54, 110 mm Shifters: Silvers on bar ends RD: Shimano LX, low normal Rims: Sun CR-18, 36 hole Rear hub: Shimano 105, 130 spacing, a 1.5 mm spacer added to each side Cassette: SRAM 8 speed, 11-32 Chain: SRAM 7-8 speed, new Components not indicated as new have maybe 200 mi. of use on a previous bike of mine. Me: 6’3”, PBH 92, 265 lbs. What I’ve tried: Grease on BB cable guide, tightening rear QR skewer more. No luck so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rivendell phrase game
Rivendell. If you like it, buy it while we still have it... Or wait, because you'll like what we get next too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
I don't know how you managed it with only 200 miles on the transferred parts, but it sounds like your new chain is dancing over worn cogs and/or chainrings. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:22:26 AM UTC-7, Doug M wrote: Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution. Frame: 65 AHH, Waterford, 135 spacing, 1 TT, new Crank: Sugino XD2 road double 48-34 BB: Shimano UN-54, 110 mm Shifters: Silvers on bar ends RD: Shimano LX, low normal Rims: Sun CR-18, 36 hole Rear hub: Shimano 105, 130 spacing, a 1.5 mm spacer added to each side Cassette: SRAM 8 speed, 11-32 Chain: SRAM 7-8 speed, new Components not indicated as new have maybe 200 mi. of use on a previous bike of mine. Me: 6’3”, PBH 92, 265 lbs. What I’ve tried: Grease on BB cable guide, tightening rear QR skewer more. No luck so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
I get auto shifting on my new Sam in the same circumstances. *I was told by Rivendell* that all you can really do is tighten the shifter lever wingnut more to keep the derailleur from slipping out of alignment in the rear. I am not used to friction shifting. I have found that it takes a very light touch, but I am not totally free of auto shifts yet. I am getting better at it though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
Could be worn cogs or chain rings, but unlikely with 200 miles (unless using a worn out chain to begin with). First, I'd check the chain (which OP noted as new)-- move the crank slowly (when up on a repair stand or in reverse) to see if you have a tight link or one that's bent. I had this problem late last year with a new chain. Too bad I didn't have my chain tool with me at the time. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:35:25 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: I don't know how you managed it with only 200 miles on the transferred parts, but it sounds like your new chain is dancing over worn cogs and/or chainrings. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:22:26 AM UTC-7, Doug M wrote: Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution. Frame: 65 AHH, Waterford, 135 spacing, 1 TT, new Crank: Sugino XD2 road double 48-34 BB: Shimano UN-54, 110 mm Shifters: Silvers on bar ends RD: Shimano LX, low normal Rims: Sun CR-18, 36 hole Rear hub: Shimano 105, 130 spacing, a 1.5 mm spacer added to each side Cassette: SRAM 8 speed, 11-32 Chain: SRAM 7-8 speed, new Components not indicated as new have maybe 200 mi. of use on a previous bike of mine. Me: 6’3”, PBH 92, 265 lbs. What I’ve tried: Grease on BB cable guide, tightening rear QR skewer more. No luck so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Manny in Merry Sales catalog
I think they should pay Manny for every one of those photos, whether Manny said they could use them for free or not. C'mon, Merry Sales is a business after all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
How about calling Riv with the serial number? I think you can re-register serial numbers with them. Here's the serial number database link: https://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=323 On Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:02:45 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote: I don't know if this admittedly crappy picture post will work (forum noob). I plan on taking a nice set of pictures with my gf's DSLR this weekend. For now, a crappy pic from my basement. [image: Inline image 1] On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Jim Mather math...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: We're not going to help until you post pictures. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.comjavascript: wrote: I just bought a '97 Rivendell from a gent on craigslist. I forgot to ask him what model it is! I'll probably bug him today to be sure, but is there a way to tell the model from the serial? My BB is stamped Everest on one side, and H970XX on the other side. Handcrafted in Waterford on the chain stay. Other scooby clues: It's red with cream head tube Has a Rivendell logo boss, not Atlantis or Rambouillet Has sidepull brakes, not canti Anyone know? I've been very interested in Rivendells since I got back into biking a couple years ago, but this is the first one I've touched. Now if it will only stop raining... Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
Try what Michael suggested above with tightening the shifter lever. That worked for me. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
I had the same problem on my Atlantis before I sent it to be repainted. After it came back and I took it to my LBS to have the headset and BB installed, my mechanic told me that the rear derailler hanger was a bit bent, and he fixed it (being steel it's not a problem). After I rebuilt the whole bike, the ghost shifting on climbs or under pressure completely dissapeared. I had no idea how mine got bent, but I'd suggest that is the first thing you check no matter what parts you're runnning. René On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.comwrote: Could be worn cogs or chain rings, but unlikely with 200 miles (unless using a worn out chain to begin with). First, I'd check the chain (which OP noted as new)-- move the crank slowly (when up on a repair stand or in reverse) to see if you have a tight link or one that's bent. I had this problem late last year with a new chain. Too bad I didn't have my chain tool with me at the time. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:35:25 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: I don't know how you managed it with only 200 miles on the transferred parts, but it sounds like your new chain is dancing over worn cogs and/or chainrings. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:22:26 AM UTC-7, Doug M wrote: Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution. Frame: 65 AHH, Waterford, 135 spacing, 1 TT, new Crank: Sugino XD2 road double 48-34 BB: Shimano UN-54, 110 mm Shifters: Silvers on bar ends RD: Shimano LX, low normal Rims: Sun CR-18, 36 hole Rear hub: Shimano 105, 130 spacing, a 1.5 mm spacer added to each side Cassette: SRAM 8 speed, 11-32 Chain: SRAM 7-8 speed, new Components not indicated as new have maybe 200 mi. of use on a previous bike of mine. Me: 6’3”, PBH 92, 265 lbs. What I’ve tried: Grease on BB cable guide, tightening rear QR skewer more. No luck so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Noodles, brakes and interupters
Hope i tagged this correctly...I have a semi-cockpit of noodles (46cm), Shimano brakes and top brake interupters for sale...Hoping $130 is a fair price..also a Nitto 10 or 11cm stem (22.2/25.4) asking $50...contact offline...Thanks ...PeterG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ashQWmsG3F0/UWb4SE2ESOI/AEA/tVf50z3gJKg/s1600/stem+013.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DmW8bmlobhU/UWb4axR3zZI/AEI/ywIGtxcDl24/s1600/stem+016.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
Measure the chainstay length. If it's similar or shorter than the Roadeo, you almost certainly have the road standard. Given the sidepulls and year, that is a strong possibility. The only model of that era was the road standard. If the chainstays are longer, it would be a Longlow. But I'll have to look at my old Readers to see if the Longlow was made yet in 1997. I'm pretty sure custom geometry was not being done at that time. Pre-custom days, the models were Road (standard), Allrounder (with cantis), the rare Mountain frame, and then later the Longlow and the somewhat rare Cyclocross model. Given this, chainstay length would be your identifier for your sidepull frame. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: From 1997, I'd reckon it was the Road Standard. Here is the page I still haven't completed, that at least has the original three models, with some very rough notes. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
This is one of those annoying things that seems to have a few possible causes—I had the exact same problem with my Waterford Bombadil. In my case, it was the plastic bottom bracket cable guide that was at fault. The one that came on the bike new from Riv was black with only one mounting hole, but other than that I don't know what sort it was. Not only did it not fit on the bottom bracket properly, but it also forced the rear derailer cable to make two nasty bends. It was such a terrible fit I actually thought it might be on backwards (it wasn't). I chucked it out and replaced it with a $2 Shimano one... problem gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
I see auto-correct somehow butchered my message. The sentence, The only model of that era was the road standard should have read, The only short chainstay model of that era was the road standard. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:59 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Measure the chainstay length. If it's similar or shorter than the Roadeo, you almost certainly have the road standard. Given the sidepulls and year, that is a strong possibility. The only model of that era was the road standard. If the chainstays are longer, it would be a Longlow. But I'll have to look at my old Readers to see if the Longlow was made yet in 1997. I'm pretty sure custom geometry was not being done at that time. Pre-custom days, the models were Road (standard), Allrounder (with cantis), the rare Mountain frame, and then later the Longlow and the somewhat rare Cyclocross model. Given this, chainstay length would be your identifier for your sidepull frame. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: From 1997, I'd reckon it was the Road Standard. Here is the page I still haven't completed, that at least has the original three models, with some very rough notes. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/ - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
The older lugs really narrow it down timewise. If you send me your frame's size (C-T) and the chainstay length, I could track it down in the geometry charts of one of my early Readers. Being home sick today, what else am I gonna do? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: I don't know if this admittedly crappy picture post will work (forum noob). I plan on taking a nice set of pictures with my gf's DSLR this weekend. For now, a crappy pic from my basement. image.jpeg On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote: We're not going to help until you post pictures. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: I just bought a '97 Rivendell from a gent on craigslist. I forgot to ask him what model it is! I'll probably bug him today to be sure, but is there a way to tell the model from the serial? My BB is stamped Everest on one side, and H970XX on the other side. Handcrafted in Waterford on the chain stay. Other scooby clues: It's red with cream head tube Has a Rivendell logo boss, not Atlantis or Rambouillet Has sidepull brakes, not canti Anyone know? I've been very interested in Rivendells since I got back into biking a couple years ago, but this is the first one I've touched. Now if it will only stop raining... Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: 64/66/68cm Road Frame
This might be off topic but there was an Allez for sale here a few weeks ago. I'm looking for something similar. I don't care about fenders/tire clearance (nice to have for sure, but not a requirement). I have bikes like that. It will never have a load, will never be taken off road. It's a fair weather bike. Iv'e been hunting on CL and eBay for a while and haven't found anything. One nice to have is downtube shifter bosses. You guys always have such awesome stuff in your garages I though I'd check. I'm in Seattle. P.S. I tried tagging this post as per the rules but it didn't work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Noob Question
I have an early Rivendell frame. There is a decal or painted initials *JB*or letters *J3* on the left chain stay. What is the significance of these initials/letters? Thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Noob Question
If it is on the chainstay and looks like this: http://www.campyonly.com/joebell.html That would be Joe Bell Bicycle Refinishing. Pretty much one of the best paint shops in the states. Available as an upcharge feature on a number of models. JS on the bottom bracket shell in the serial number denotes a Joe Starck built frame. Stories on both in older Readers. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Noob Question
Joe Bell was the painter On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Ojiisan a...@mynvw.com wrote: I have an early Rivendell frame. There is a decal or painted initials *JB*or letters *J3* on the left chain stay. What is the significance of these initials/letters? Thanks, Ojiisan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
I do not have that particular derailleur, but on several of the ones I do have, there are 3 adjustment screws. 2 of them, control lateral movement (from high stop to low stop), the 3rd screw however controls the spring tension on the derailleur cage (which positions the jockey swing arm fore and aft). If swing arm tension is too tight, the derailleur may self-shift, if too loose, it skips. Swing arm tension may change when you move a used RD to a new frame: the chainstay length changes and/or the chainrings/cassette are different sizes than before. So what worked on the old bike doesn't work as well on the new bike. It's good to adjust the derailleur cage tension, if you can, to compensate for differences in drive train length. Down thread, I saw a suggestion to check the chain for stiff or bent links. Very good advice. I'd also check the chain rings for a dinged tooth. Sometimes you'll find nicks in the teeth. File them smooth. Same for the jockey wheel teeth, check them too. Finally, give the jockey wheel axles a shot of penetrating oil, be sure they are running smoothly. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:22:26 AM UTC-5, Doug M wrote: Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution. Frame: 65 AHH, Waterford, 135 spacing, 1 TT, new Crank: Sugino XD2 road double 48-34 BB: Shimano UN-54, 110 mm Shifters: Silvers on bar ends RD: Shimano LX, low normal Rims: Sun CR-18, 36 hole Rear hub: Shimano 105, 130 spacing, a 1.5 mm spacer added to each side Cassette: SRAM 8 speed, 11-32 Chain: SRAM 7-8 speed, new Components not indicated as new have maybe 200 mi. of use on a previous bike of mine. Me: 6’3”, PBH 92, 265 lbs. What I’ve tried: Grease on BB cable guide, tightening rear QR skewer more. No luck so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
Lots of good recommendations here. To troubleshoot, I would follow these steps: - Bike on stand, pedals backwards. If there is a stiff link, it will obviously hang in the pulleys. - Eyeball the chain from back/top - make sure there are no protruding pins. - With no chain tension, grasp rear sprocket set and wiggle. There should be no movement. Tighten lockring if movement. If lockring is tight, it may be that the freehub has loosened. Typically, this needs to be tightened into the hub itself when the axle is removed. - With the rear wheel removed. Shift rear derailleur through it's range. Put it into the highest tension setting (highest gear on most models) and see if it moves without touching, then apply a little pressure with your finger to the derailleur body to see if it moves. If so, increase tension at the shifter body with the thumbscrew. Also, pay attention to the movement of the cable as you shift up and down. There should be no hitches or glitches. Often on a new bike setup, the cable housing tips are not completely set, so there can be movement and shifting of the housing, which causes cable movement and ghost shifting. There should be only the hint of slack when at the lowest tension point - no drooping or sagging cable. - Check axle on rear wheel for excessive play. Adjust cones to eliminate or reduce. - With chain not attached, check front chainrings for trueness - i.e. lateral movement when you spin cranks. (Chainring bolts and improperly torqued crankarm bolts can be culprit here.) That ought to get 95% of the issues tracked down. Housing can definitely be a culprit on barend shifter setups, as there are a few places for slack to hide. And absolutely measure the chain - I've swapped chains around and then reused the one I was going to trash. Hope that helps. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New AHH build drivetrain problem
I think this is a derailleur adjustment issue. A prickly little problem because it's hard to recreate consistantly on the road--never mind on the work stand. Assuming no hanger alignment issues, a very minor quarter or half turn of the cable barrel adjuster on the rear derailleur will likely fix it. Problem is, which way to turn? Try and figure out (when next it happens) what cog you've selected with your shifter vs. where the chain wants to go to (the next larger or next smaller cog). If it wants to to the next larger, you need a bit more cable slack. If next smaller, a bit more tension. I don't usually run across this on my 8 speed cassettes but do so often on my 9 speed new installs until I iron it out. I set a side a short ride with some hills for this and just nail it down once and for all. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New AHH build drivetrain problem
I would look at the silver shifters first. In my experience unless you set the cable tension pretty high they tend to cause skipping. Dan Abelson St. Paul MN On Apr 11, 2013 11:22 AM, Doug M yengamg...@gmail.com wrote: Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution.** Frame: 65 AHH, Waterford, 135 spacing, 1 TT, new Crank: Sugino XD2 road double 48-34 BB: Shimano UN-54, 110 mm Shifters: Silvers on bar ends RD: Shimano LX, low normal Rims: Sun CR-18, 36 hole Rear hub: Shimano 105, 130 spacing, a 1.5 mm spacer added to each side Cassette: SRAM 8 speed, 11-32 Chain: SRAM 7-8 speed, new Components not indicated as new have maybe 200 mi. of use on a previous bike of mine. ** ** Me: 6’3”, PBH 92, 265 lbs. What I’ve tried: Grease on BB cable guide, tightening rear QR skewer more. No luck so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New AHH build drivetrain problem
My experience is the same as Dans - been through it with two different bikes. Bob On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: I would look at the silver shifters first. In my experience unless you set the cable tension pretty high they tend to cause skipping. Dan Abelson St. Paul MN On Apr 11, 2013 11:22 AM, Doug M yengamg...@gmail.com wrote: Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution.** Frame: 65 AHH, Waterford, 135 spacing, 1 TT, new Crank: Sugino XD2 road double 48-34 BB: Shimano UN-54, 110 mm Shifters: Silvers on bar ends RD: Shimano LX, low normal Rims: Sun CR-18, 36 hole Rear hub: Shimano 105, 130 spacing, a 1.5 mm spacer added to each side*** * Cassette: SRAM 8 speed, 11-32 Chain: SRAM 7-8 speed, new Components not indicated as new have maybe 200 mi. of use on a previous bike of mine. ** ** Me: 6’3”, PBH 92, 265 lbs. What I’ve tried: Grease on BB cable guide, tightening rear QR skewer more. No luck so far. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 57cm Velo Orange Polyvalent
I have a brand new (green) VO Polyvalent frame, 57cm size. Specs can be seen here http://support.velo-orange.com/#polyvalent.html. I built it up and have ridden perhaps 10 miles. For various reasons I find myself unable to keep it. Asking $420 plus actual shipping. Please email me offlist to see pics. Other parts may be available to go with it. I also have a VO porteur rack I just bought, super clean. Asking $150 shipped and it fits beautifully on the PV frame. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New Web Special Frames
Well, the 57.5 Proto Sam is gone. - Frank On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:43:56 PM UTC-4, Dave Rivbike wrote: Just posting here to give y'all a little heads up on some web special frames. A few neat ones, and I'll post more tomorrow. http://www.rivbike.com/New-Stuff-s/489.htm I'll be mentioning them in the email update on Friday, so, well, get them now, they've been selling fast. Also a bunch of cheap 105 hubs from the archives at that link. Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Web Special Frames
there is the Bizzaro Simple One, the more I look at it the more strange it is. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-059.htm On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:54 PM, frank_a fk...@aol.com wrote: Well, the 57.5 Proto Sam is gone. - Frank On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:43:56 PM UTC-4, Dave Rivbike wrote: Just posting here to give y'all a little heads up on some web special frames. A few neat ones, and I'll post more tomorrow. http://www.rivbike.com/New-**Stuff-s/489.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/New-Stuff-s/489.htm I'll be mentioning them in the email update on Friday, so, well, get them now, they've been selling fast. Also a bunch of cheap 105 hubs from the archives at that link. Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Amit's Great-Grandfather's bike???
what, an integrated headset? :-) On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:12:56 PM UTC-7, Amit Singh wrote: I'd ride that! On Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:58:15 UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Could it be?!? http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/1901-2/c1900-double-top-tube-29-eadie-track-racer/ =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell phrase game
Some mean Rivendell phrases I saw on another forum (hostile forum). I thought they were witty. But they are mean. Don't take this personally anyone, just, objectively, thought you'de get a chuckle.: One does not simply ride their Rivendell into Mordor and, It should be taken back, and thrown into the smelting pot from whence it came., or something to that effect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning Updated: Bars, tires, brake levers, crank
Thanks Michael Phil On Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:05:03 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote: Sold them already -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
I have experienced similar experiences after replenishing drivetrain consumables (chain, cogs, rings) and cables, which cause me to readjust derailleurs/shifters. For sure a fresh drivetrain is touchier about chain line until the teeth are burnished by the chain and have more surfaces that may pluck at the passing chain instead of moving together smoothly. I have experienced some riding which deflects the bottom bracket of the frame laterally like low RPM mashing, steepest climbs, heavy or strong riders, can deflect the route of the rear derailleur cable and functionally changing its tension, inducing momentary out of adjustment sensations. The terrain I rode when spending lots of time off road (took a very surprised Bridgestone rep Chris Watson out on the trails for an informational ride) and the series of mountain bikes I had produced varied degrees of this effect. Had to sell my MB-0 within six months because it flexed so much in my size I knew I would kill it if I continued to riding in that terrain, in that manner. At least it had a cyclic flex limiter; the back wheel. On many climbs I would alternate chainstay rubbing, left side, right side, continuously unless I changed gear or was able to more effectively spin a gear to deemphasize the 9 and 3 power surge of pedal mashing. Clipless pedals helped turn smoother circles with fewer power surges. Did find that Suntour drivetrains were less susceptible to the effect than Shimano. the latter seemed particularly sensitive to being perfectly adjusted. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh Submitted for your consideration: a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new Hilsen build. I’m experiencing some auto-shifting and cog skipping when going uphill, pedaling hard or pedaling out of the saddle. I’d appreciate the group’s suggestions for a solution -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
PS- don't stand until you know you are solidly in gear. I hate when the chain auto shifts while I am standing - ouch!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Web Special Frames
It reminds me of the original Cannondale MTBs with the 24-inch rear wheel. Very weird. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 1:08:37 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: there is the Bizzaro Simple One, the more I look at it the more strange it is. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-059.htm On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:54 PM, frank_a fk...@aol.com javascript:wrote: Well, the 57.5 Proto Sam is gone. - Frank On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:43:56 PM UTC-4, Dave Rivbike wrote: Just posting here to give y'all a little heads up on some web special frames. A few neat ones, and I'll post more tomorrow. http://www.rivbike.com/New-**Stuff-s/489.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/New-Stuff-s/489.htm I'll be mentioning them in the email update on Friday, so, well, get them now, they've been selling fast. Also a bunch of cheap 105 hubs from the archives at that link. Dave@riv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
I will measure it when I get home from work, James. I'm pretty sure it's a road standard, as the collective mind seems to indicate. Were all 97 frames built by Waterford? I've transferred over my seat and pedals from my main road Trek. This bike is set up kinda interesting. It has sealed Phil Wood hubs, Campy crank and derailleurs, and 105 brakes. Yet cheap Kenda tires (for now). I'm gonna ditch the yellow bar tape and bottle cages (wtf?) and probly replace with creamy white to match the head tube. Or maybe a blue, for the all-american look. It has plenty of scuffs and small scratches on the paint, as to be expected from a well-ridden bike. Like I said, I need a sunny day to put some miles on it. But if it works out as well as I hope, I'll ride the hell out of it. I'm doing my first RAGBRAI tour this year, and I'm thinking this Red Riv will be a sweet companion. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:10 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: The older lugs really narrow it down timewise. If you send me your frame's size (C-T) and the chainstay length, I could track it down in the geometry charts of one of my early Readers. Being home sick today, what else am I gonna do? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: I don't know if this admittedly crappy picture post will work (forum noob). I plan on taking a nice set of pictures with my gf's DSLR this weekend. For now, a crappy pic from my basement. image.jpeg On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote: We're not going to help until you post pictures. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote: I just bought a '97 Rivendell from a gent on craigslist. I forgot to ask him what model it is! I'll probably bug him today to be sure, but is there a way to tell the model from the serial? My BB is stamped Everest on one side, and H970XX on the other side. Handcrafted in Waterford on the chain stay. Other scooby clues: It's red with cream head tube Has a Rivendell logo boss, not Atlantis or Rambouillet Has sidepull brakes, not canti Anyone know? I've been very interested in Rivendells since I got back into biking a couple years ago, but this is the first one I've touched. Now if it will only stop raining... Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Noob Question
Yes that's the logo! And I just started the Reader thumb drive. Many thanks, Ojiisan On Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:15:26 AM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: If it is on the chainstay and looks like this: http://www.campyonly.com/joebell.html That would be Joe Bell Bicycle Refinishing. Pretty much one of the best paint shops in the states. Available as an upcharge feature on a number of models. JS on the bottom bracket shell in the serial number denotes a Joe Starck built frame. Stories on both in older Readers. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
Actually, that really should not change a thing in this case. That specific adjustment is really to tune an indexed shifting setup. You will adjust cable tension, but since the indexing is really done at the lever, it is not a constant. The core issue with modern drivetrains is that they are designed to shift under load with minimal input from the rider. All those ramps and cutouts and nooks and crannies in the sprocket set has been added to get that chain to easily lift off and move. Add to that the floating upper pulley and you have gearing that wants to jump. If you listened to a little too much rock 'n roll, and have trouble hearing a slight chatter of chain, you can happily ride along not realizing you are really on the edge of a new gear ratio. That is one thing that the older freewheel setups (not to mention fewer gears and hence a wider sweet spot) did reasonably well - let you know when you weren't in gear. I get spoiled by fixed gears and singlespeeds. High teeth and no ramps means when you apply power, that chain is only going to make things roll. My Hilsen cogset is wearing out, and though it can be nursed through a ride, there are a couple gear combos which simply slip now. It makes me not want to ride it. (But, I'll swap in a new set of sprockets and chain and appreciate it again real soon...) It does make me wish someone would come out with a KlunkyShift™ sprocket set. Big, tall, straight teeth with no cuts or ramps. Probably findable if I shift back to freewheels, but I do like the wider bearing stance of a freehub. Crikey. I want steel cranks and sprockets which are hard to shift... ;^) - Jim On Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:36:08 AM UTC-7, bobish wrote: I think this is a derailleur adjustment issue. A prickly little problem because it's hard to recreate consistantly on the road--never mind on the work stand. Assuming no hanger alignment issues, a very minor quarter or half turn of the cable barrel adjuster on the rear derailleur will likely fix it. Problem is, which way to turn? Try and figure out (when next it happens) what cog you've selected with your shifter vs. where the chain wants to go to (the next larger or next smaller cog). If it wants to to the next larger, you need a bit more cable slack. If next smaller, a bit more tension. I don't usually run across this on my 8 speed cassettes but do so often on my 9 speed new installs until I iron it out. I set a side a short ride with some hills for this and just nail it down once and for all. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
I would strongly disagree with Zack. Buying used is not a good idea. There are just too many risks, too much screwing around, and too much pressure to make a quick decision (selecting from a limited number of choices) for the novice used bike shopper. Better to buy something new from a bike shop. It need not be steel, or even Riv-ish. Chances are, unless she has already drunk the Kool-aid, the bike she chooses won't be even remotely Riv-ish, which is fine. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58:48 AM UTC-5, Zack wrote: I would strongly recommend going the used/craigslist route. Such a better value, she can get SUCH a better bike going that way, even if she wants to take it to the LBS to get a full tune-up/service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
Thanks everyone for the great suggestions. Got home from work today and started getting my fingers greasy looking into it with your generously offered wisdom. As it turns out, when I removed the wheel and examined the cluster there was a small but noticeable amount of wiggle per Cyclofiend Jim's suggestion. The lockring was tight as could be so I'm thinking it's a loose free hub problem. I also want to check out Rene's suggestion of a misaligned derailleur hanger and Will's adjustment screw idea. Not sure if I will pursue repair of the 105 hub -- I think I'd rather put the $ into a new wheel that will last me a decade or two. Thinking about a White Industries MI5 hub and a Dyad rim. Let's talk, Jim Thill! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Trek 720 58 c-c
Me no comprendo. Is this green thing a 58cm Trek 720? Is it for sale? Does it cost $120? Kevin In Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
You can re build a 105 hub for like $5 worrth of new ball bearings and grease. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Doug M yengamg...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for the great suggestions. Got home from work today and started getting my fingers greasy looking into it with your generously offered wisdom. As it turns out, when I removed the wheel and examined the cluster there was a small but noticeable amount of wiggle per Cyclofiend Jim's suggestion. The lockring was tight as could be so I'm thinking it's a loose free hub problem. I also want to check out Rene's suggestion of a misaligned derailleur hanger and Will's adjustment screw idea. Not sure if I will pursue repair of the 105 hub -- I think I'd rather put the $ into a new wheel that will last me a decade or two. Thinking about a White Industries MI5 hub and a Dyad rim. Let's talk, Jim Thill! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
Give me a call, Doug. That's a great choice of hub/rim, in my experience. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:36:55 PM UTC-5, Doug M wrote: Thanks everyone for the great suggestions. Got home from work today and started getting my fingers greasy looking into it with your generously offered wisdom. As it turns out, when I removed the wheel and examined the cluster there was a small but noticeable amount of wiggle per Cyclofiend Jim's suggestion. The lockring was tight as could be so I'm thinking it's a loose free hub problem. I also want to check out Rene's suggestion of a misaligned derailleur hanger and Will's adjustment screw idea. Not sure if I will pursue repair of the 105 hub -- I think I'd rather put the $ into a new wheel that will last me a decade or two. Thinking about a White Industries MI5 hub and a Dyad rim. Let's talk, Jim Thill! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
I dunno Jim if that kind of fear is warranted. If this person has access to a decent wrench most bike repairs are pretty straight forward, in my experience. On Apr 11, 2013 7:34 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I would strongly disagree with Zack. Buying used is not a good idea. There are just too many risks, too much screwing around, and too much pressure to make a quick decision (selecting from a limited number of choices) for the novice used bike shopper. Better to buy something new from a bike shop. It need not be steel, or even Riv-ish. Chances are, unless she has already drunk the Kool-aid, the bike she chooses won't be even remotely Riv-ish, which is fine. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58:48 AM UTC-5, Zack wrote: I would strongly recommend going the used/craigslist route. Such a better value, she can get SUCH a better bike going that way, even if she wants to take it to the LBS to get a full tune-up/service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Spring arrives in Delaware!
Here in Southern California it was... ahh, never mind... Cheers, David On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: We're having thundersnow in the Minneapolis, Minnesota area today. Already a few inches on the ground. Until today was out riding most days even if it was cold. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: We had 90 degrees yesterday. Went straight from 3 winter layers and fleece tights to short sleeves, shorts, sunscreen and dehydration. I would love to have some weather in the 70s. It's really weird having summer temperatures with all the street trees flowering. On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 19:57 -0700, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Ah, indeed... I squeezed in a much-needed mountain bike loop last evening... Punishment never felt so good. Can't wait to see the lineup of bikes this weekend on the Water Gap Adventure Ride, especially the selections from the Allingham stable. The Mystery Bike looks terrific, Tom. The weather forecast calls for excellent weather. We've got a fantastic route planned. Any last-minute stragglers are most welcome to join... Peace, Bobby On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:43:26 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: 75 degrees at 6 this morning – my kind of weather! Headed out on my Homer with a couple of my friends on carbon, and a fellow I had not met before who was riding a pretty Moots that he rode cross country last year (he didn’t know what his bike was made of!). Beautiful loop on country roads from Wilmington out into Pennsylvania mushroom country around Kennett Square. I was able to hang with the fast boys for most of the 25 mile loop, and when I got dropped it certainly wasn’t Homer’s fault -- I need a little time in the saddle after a long winter. No pics, working too hard to keep up. But then I put Homer back in the garage and hauled out the proto-App for my normal 5 mile commute along the Brandywine Creek – which, as the picture says, never gets old. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8636761157/in/photostream Just about a perfect morning, all in all. Looking forward to riding the Delaware Water Gap with Bobby Birmingham and some East Coasters this weekend – among my two sons and me, we’ll be taking my Atlantis, Rohloff Bombadil, and the proto-Appaloosa. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
She has access to these good people as well: http://www.davisbikecollective.org/ But I get where Jim's coming from. I presume a lot about bike selection, fit and maintenance that maybe I shouldn't. Cheers, David On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I dunno Jim if that kind of fear is warranted. If this person has access to a decent wrench most bike repairs are pretty straight forward, in my experience. On Apr 11, 2013 7:34 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I would strongly disagree with Zack. Buying used is not a good idea. There are just too many risks, too much screwing around, and too much pressure to make a quick decision (selecting from a limited number of choices) for the novice used bike shopper. Better to buy something new from a bike shop. It need not be steel, or even Riv-ish. Chances are, unless she has already drunk the Kool-aid, the bike she chooses won't be even remotely Riv-ish, which is fine. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58:48 AM UTC-5, Zack wrote: I would strongly recommend going the used/craigslist route. Such a better value, she can get SUCH a better bike going that way, even if she wants to take it to the LBS to get a full tune-up/service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New Bike Fitting System
Saw this on the news tonight about a new machine at an LBS. We all agree that good bike sizing is important to comfortable riding, but is it necessary to go beyond inseam height and a few other basic manual measurements? http://wgntv.com/2013/04/11/roll-new-bicycle-shop-uses-3d-body-scanner-to-get-you-fitted/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 2 person National Mall Ride Sunday
The Summer House or Grotto was designed by Frederick Law Olmsted as part of an improvement to the Capitol grounds in the 1880s, after the addition of the north and south wings. It was intended as a place for visitors to rest and get a drink of water, so you're using it exactly as intended! More info here: http://www.aoc.gov/capitol-grounds/summerhouse -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
How tall is she? I have a Novara Safari sitting around not doing anything and it would be fine for something like that. It's a small one though. On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:12:26 PM UTC-5, EastBayGuy wrote: So my little sister is looking into getting a new/First bike. she plans on going on a few S240's and will be commuting in the somewhat flat Davis, Ca area. She is on a College Grad/working at Panera Budget. My question is does anyone have any recommendations for a decent off the shelf bike that is capable of strapping some gear onto and heading into the hills? Thanks in Advance.. Dustin G WC Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Trek 720 58 c-c
Sorry, I posted this as a favor to the lists and not only as a favor to the shop. Perhaps that is not kosher? $800 and packing and shipping est. $120. It's nice and my size and I want someone else to buy it before I am tempted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
Hey gang, Anyone else planning to do a ride this Saturday? It seems details to make this really happen have been scarce. I only have time for a few hours and will likely have to duck out early so I don't feel like the right one to head this up (never mind that I don't know PDX very well). Are we still ready to show Manny a good time??? -Aaron Young Vancouver, WA On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working Sat Manny so I won't be able to meet up with you guys. Have a great ride. It felt like you were with us in spirit on this past weekend's Wasco ramble. Some possible ride ideas for you guys: http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=aqichfwpkwnjmdjj http://www.rubbertotheroad.com/?p=616 http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=hvwrlprikdqewsry Have fun! --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
Who is doing the buying and setup? Stevie's, where I have just started working, has that Nishiki Mixte, tuned, for $180 plus tax -- just one example. I've bought very nice schlep around bikes -- Raleigh Sportses, Schwinn Collegiates, Surburbans, and ilk, Nishiki mixte, etc, etc, etc, from Goodwill, all in good condition, all for under $60 (an some for $24.95) and, even if needing some work, easily tuned and lubed and adjusted by even a semi-competent mechanic. It all depends on the selection available and who is buying and refurbishing. That said, there are all sorts of nice off-the-shelf basic bikes. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I would strongly disagree with Zack. Buying used is not a good idea. There are just too many risks, too much screwing around, and too much pressure to make a quick decision (selecting from a limited number of choices) for the novice used bike shopper. Better to buy something new from a bike shop. It need not be steel, or even Riv-ish. Chances are, unless she has already drunk the Kool-aid, the bike she chooses won't be even remotely Riv-ish, which is fine. On Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58:48 AM UTC-5, Zack wrote: I would strongly recommend going the used/craigslist route. Such a better value, she can get SUCH a better bike going that way, even if she wants to take it to the LBS to get a full tune-up/service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem
Until I started joining all my chains with masterlinks, I'd sometimes be plagued with stiff links just barely stiff enough to cause skipping but not stiff enough to see by eye when pedaling the chain backward -- at least, not by my eyes. I'd have to run the chain through my fingers, backpedaling, to feel the link, after which I could flex it loose. This happened often enough to make me very aware of this possibility/ On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: Lots of good recommendations here. To troubleshoot, I would follow these steps: - Bike on stand, pedals backwards. If there is a stiff link, it will obviously hang in the pulleys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
I admit to harboring a stereotype that this young woman just wants a comfortable, reliable bike to ride, and does not care to get into a project refurbing an obscure antique. Perhaps I'm wrong. I realize that some used bikes are a good deal, and need little or no TLC to be a good rider. But it takes some skill to identify these. And even if you only find high quality used bikes on your local CL, it's easy to feel pressured to buy one that isn't ideal. At a bigger shop, at least a customer could try several bikes side by side. Plus, there's a warranty, maybe a deal on accessories, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
Well while I doubt she wants to rebuild the SA hub on a Raleigh Sprite there are many levels of used bikes. I got a late 90s motobecane about 10 years ago that someone had traded in for their new ride. LBS gave it a good tune up and said it had something like a 30 day warranty to see if anything went major wrong. I rode it for a long time and it was a sweet ride, so sweet someone else really liked and stole it... :( I believe I paid $175, spent 40 on a decent seat and 20 on some new brake pads, so $200ish for a bike I never would have been able to afford in the late 90s new. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I admit to harboring a stereotype that this young woman just wants a comfortable, reliable bike to ride, and does not care to get into a project refurbing an obscure antique. Perhaps I'm wrong. I realize that some used bikes are a good deal, and need little or no TLC to be a good rider. But it takes some skill to identify these. And even if you only find high quality used bikes on your local CL, it's easy to feel pressured to buy one that isn't ideal. At a bigger shop, at least a customer could try several bikes side by side. Plus, there's a warranty, maybe a deal on accessories, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New Bike Fitting System
Any fit based on measurements, whether with a tape measure or a body scanner with laser beams, is merely a starting point, since no two humans are alike. But the market for this kind of service is the elite cyclist. By elite, I mean spends a fortune. If one of these dudes is buying a $15k bike, and wears $2k worth of clothing to ride it, then why not have a status symbol fit? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
I agree with Jim's POV completely, and not becuase I work at a shop. For someone looking to gain access to cycling or riding a bike on a regular basis, getting a decent new bike (if it fits their budget) is usually the best overall value for that person. With new bikes, one gets all new compnents, a service warranty, and usually a good deal on accessories at the POP. One also gets to ride various sizes and models and choose their favorite in their timeframe and comfort level (assuming the shop is not overly pushy). With used bikes, you get used components with typically unknown history and reliability. Sure, if the person buying the used bike is mechanically inclined, or has easy access to services/knowlege, time, extra money, or prior cycling experience to choose, repair, and service a used bike, then it could be a good value. From my experience it is not a good value monetarily or time wise for someone to invest in a non bikeshop, overhauled, used bike for their first bike. It will usually turn into a money/time pit, and generally deter someone from riding by bumming them out. I've seen it happen time and again. Used bikes can be a good choice for people who are already invested in bikes, cycling, tinkering, etc. I second the vote for the Jamis Coda Sport. Lots of sizes, steel, versatile, reliable durable components, and generally fits the proposed budget. A very good value overall IMHO. Though ultimately, it is up to Dustin's sister to choose the bike that is right for her needs and goals. Gabe On Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:04:16 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I admit to harboring a stereotype that this young woman just wants a comfortable, reliable bike to ride, and does not care to get into a project refurbing an obscure antique. Perhaps I'm wrong. I realize that some used bikes are a good deal, and need little or no TLC to be a good rider. But it takes some skill to identify these. And even if you only find high quality used bikes on your local CL, it's easy to feel pressured to buy one that isn't ideal. At a bigger shop, at least a customer could try several bikes side by side. Plus, there's a warranty, maybe a deal on accessories, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
Jim Thill writes: I admit to harboring a stereotype that this young woman just wants a comfortable, reliable bike to ride, and does not care to get into a project refurbing an obscure antique. I don't even think that counts as a stereotype. Some of the people on this list love tinkering with their bikes. That's fine, but it's not even representative of people who already love and ride bikes, let alone a new rider who, probably, just wants to ride. Maybe Dustin loves tinkering and will help his little sis out, but otherwise, I too think she should go to a bike shop-- perhaps with her brother to help her in case she ends up at a shop that wants to push her toward whatever the racers are riding nowadays-- and test ride some bikes. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I admit to harboring a stereotype that this young woman just wants a comfortable, reliable bike to ride, and does not care to get into a project refurbing an obscure antique. Perhaps I'm wrong. I realize that some used bikes are a good deal, and need little or no TLC to be a good rider. But it takes some skill to identify these. And even if you only find high quality used bikes on your local CL, it's easy to feel pressured to buy one that isn't ideal. At a bigger shop, at least a customer could try several bikes side by side. Plus, there's a warranty, maybe a deal on accessories, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
