[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
There's no reason you couldn't use your Atlantis for that.  It sounds like 
you are really looking for similar position more than a frame spec, and 
there's nothing about the Atlantis that would prevent that. 

Going way back to the early printed flyers for the Atlantis, page 2 shows 
what I think you are talking about:

http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis/atlflyer/02.html

The other difference would be wheel size, as I assume you are running a 
26/559.  

But, especially if you are going to end up carrying 1.5X amount of gear, 
you probably want the stouter frame of the Atlantis.  If you are needing 
a third Rivendell, then the Hunqapillar is worth a ride.  

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

2013-04-15 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Y'know what I'd love to see?  

Non-ramped rear sprockets.  Just like on the old freewheels we used to get, 
but set on a carrier so they would fit on current freehubs.  Steel?  Sure, 
if that is easier, but aluminum is fine if the teeth were longer.  8 
sprockets or even 9, so the size would be right.  

Really, I'm talking about the KlunkyShift™ cassette I mentioned in the AHH 
drivetrain thread.  If we're using a manual shifting setup, there's no 
reason why we need index-compatible sprockets.  But, I'm not real keen on 
going back to the narrow bearing spacing from the freewheel days.  (Bent 
waaay too many axles back then.)  

Ok... clearly I'm an outlier.  

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread IanA
559's are a great size for touring.  However, if you are particularly happy 
with the Simple One, it would be worth considering building up another with 
the Rohloff.  This Quickbeam belongs to Alex Wetmore 
http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/quickbeam/rohloff/

That is almost a perfect a perfect bicycle.

Of course, finding another Simple One might present a challenge.

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:30:49 PM UTC-6, allenmichael wrote:

 I have a 56 Atlantis and a 58 Simple One. The Simple One is the most 
 comfortable bike I have ever ridden, but I would like to have a bike I can 
 use for touring (and touring will likely mean carrying my things and 1/2 or 
 more for my wife). Can anyone suggest what Rivendell with gears will come 
 closest to the Simple One and permit me (160 lbs) to carry a good deal of 
 weight on occasion)?

 I have the Simple One set up with Dove bars and a 7 or 8 mm stem, large 
 saddlesack in the rear and a Riv High-Rider front rack with a basket in 
 front. I ride this most days on a 6-7 mile ride each way across San 
 Francisco from the ocean to near downtown.

  I've tried the Atlantis with Noodles and a flat bar (Nitto Torsion); I 
 haven't yet tried it with Albatross bars or a Bosco, but I do own one of 
 each, and this will probably be my next experiment. I also have a Rohloff 
 hub that I have considered putting on the Simple One, but I'm not sure of 
 the carrying capacity of the Simple One, and Simple 14 just doesn't sound 
 the same.

 I have also ridden my wife's 52 Alba, Hillborne, and while it is too 
 small, the ride is pretty comfortable.

 Will this be as easy as trying upright bars on the Atlantis?

 Thanks in advance,

 Michael Allen


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Re: [RBW] Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread JL
Yes.   That easy. :)   Atlantis is the bike for the job.  Put something upright 
on it and get the position you want. Another route,  if you are married to the 
idea of drop bars is to install them on a nitto dirt drop stem and get them 
high above the saddle.  

On Apr 14, 2013, at 9:30 PM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote:

 I have a 56 Atlantis and a 58 Simple One. The Simple One is the most 
 comfortable bike I have ever ridden, but I would like to have a bike I can 
 use for touring (and touring will likely mean carrying my things and 1/2 or 
 more for my wife). Can anyone suggest what Rivendell with gears will come 
 closest to the Simple One and permit me (160 lbs) to carry a good deal of 
 weight on occasion)?
 
 I have the Simple One set up with Dove bars and a 7 or 8 mm stem, large 
 saddlesack in the rear and a Riv High-Rider front rack with a basket in 
 front. I ride this most days on a 6-7 mile ride each way across San Francisco 
 from the ocean to near downtown.
 
  I've tried the Atlantis with Noodles and a flat bar (Nitto Torsion); I 
 haven't yet tried it with Albatross bars or a Bosco, but I do own one of 
 each, and this will probably be my next experiment. I also have a Rohloff hub 
 that I have considered putting on the Simple One, but I'm not sure of the 
 carrying capacity of the Simple One, and Simple 14 just doesn't sound the 
 same.
 
 I have also ridden my wife's 52 Alba, Hillborne, and while it is too small, 
 the ride is pretty comfortable.
 
 Will this be as easy as trying upright bars on the Atlantis?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Michael Allen
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[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't know this from personal experience, but my understanding is that 
the Quickbeam/SimpleOne bikes are more like the Rom/Ram/Roadeo 
lightish-tubing/steeper-angles road bikes, and the Atlantis is a stouter 
touring bike. The fact that you own both and are leaning towards another 
Riv tells me you've noticed this. I suspect you would be happy with the 
ride and carrying capacity of an AHH.
 
Joe go ahead, buy a new bike Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 9:30:49 PM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote:

 I have a 56 Atlantis and a 58 Simple One. The Simple One is the most 
 comfortable bike I have ever ridden, but I would like to have a bike I can 
 use for touring (and touring will likely mean carrying my things and 1/2 or 
 more for my wife). Can anyone suggest what Rivendell with gears will come 
 closest to the Simple One and permit me (160 lbs) to carry a good deal of 
 weight on occasion)?

 I have the Simple One set up with Dove bars and a 7 or 8 mm stem, large 
 saddlesack in the rear and a Riv High-Rider front rack with a basket in 
 front. I ride this most days on a 6-7 mile ride each way across San 
 Francisco from the ocean to near downtown.

  I've tried the Atlantis with Noodles and a flat bar (Nitto Torsion); I 
 haven't yet tried it with Albatross bars or a Bosco, but I do own one of 
 each, and this will probably be my next experiment. I also have a Rohloff 
 hub that I have considered putting on the Simple One, but I'm not sure of 
 the carrying capacity of the Simple One, and Simple 14 just doesn't sound 
 the same.

 I have also ridden my wife's 52 Alba, Hillborne, and while it is too 
 small, the ride is pretty comfortable.

 Will this be as easy as trying upright bars on the Atlantis?

 Thanks in advance,

 Michael Allen


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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
??? I assume that you mean that the photos appear upside down when you
opened them. Can't say why that is; they open normally for me and
apparently for others.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Patrick,


 Your Ram is upside down.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thank you. The blue is very pretty and has grown on me. I rather like the
relatively minimalist build.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 That Rambouillet is one pretty bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Heck, they make Tubus racks look extravagant! $30 and lifetime guarantee
for 150 lb load limit. Must look into Axiom more closely.

I do like the Fly for its minimalist profile; but only 40 lb and 10 years.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not relevant to the OP, but I have been wondering for a while why people
 usually go for high end racks like Nitto and Tubus.

 I Axiom rack on my Sam seems perfect to me for just about anything. I
 generally use it for commuting, which is no big strain, but I have also
 used it for self supported touring and the occasional grocery run.

 It's this one:
 http://www.axiomgear.com/products/gear/racks/journey-series/journey/

 $30 and it's rated for something like 150 lbs. Haven't tested that and
 don't intend to, but I have never had any problems with this rack.

 Just wondering.

 Jay

 On Monday, April 15, 2013 4:25:42 AM UTC+3, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 Hey Norm,

 I have the Nitto BBR from Riv (both sizes)... you're welcome to check
 them out in person.
 I also have a black Tubus Cargo... the silver one Rene is selling. It's
 not as nice (finish) or beefy (size  robust construction) as the
 Nitto, but it's a great rack.

 My Arkel Panniers fit better on the Tubus, so I go that route on my Homer
 for camping. http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/793762/ The
 Nitto is a bigger and more stable platform for my home made kid 
 seathttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6812051114/,
 so that's what the Nitto BBRs get used for on both my and the wife's bike.

 You're welcome to come look at any or all of it. Let me know off list if
 you do.

 --Smitty


 On Monday, April 8, 2013 6:46:11 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote:

 Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take
 panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack):
 http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/r4.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm.
 Anyone have experience with it?
 Any other silver racks I should be looking at?

 -Norman in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Yes, the pics are upside down on both my computer and my phone.

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Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System

2013-04-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
As someone who a bit over a year ago was returning to the cycling world 
after over a decade away, I was aware of how poor fit was. I'd tried to be 
fit at an LBS. Failure. Then I bumbled into Grant's site and was blown away 
by the simplicity and confidence. One measurement and we will fit you. 
Period. In talking with him, he also suggested I go up a size for my Hunqa. 
Glad I did. Most comfortable bike I've ever ridden, and that includes the 
recumbent Greenspeed I rode for a few years.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 9:06:27 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 First as it seems often as soon as I post a reply to a topic such as this 
 with many posts it will soon be over! So for those that are over this topic 
 heere we go! 

 Mike wish that sticker was a button, I' d pin em every where, everyone 
 else, bike fit is important but not the expensive variety. I've had the 
 expensive fit system, so has my Brother and I can assure you that it did 
 not get us much further along then we would have gotten had we just did 
 some thinking about the feedback we got from our bodies.

  I went with a Hilsen and at Riv's suggestion went up in size. No neck 
 pain or back pain!  I am still dialing in seat height but I'm close. It 
 always seem interesting to me how we get caught up in figuring that an 
 expensive computer fit system will some how be the end all, if someone is 
 charging that much then it's gotta work better! My experience is to the 
 contrary. 

 Hope you all have good pain free riding.

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Friday, April 12, 2013 7:51:03 AM UTC-7, Mike wrote:

 In the words of Stevil, one of my favorite blogging cyclist, My 100% not 
 giving a s$t beats your 8% faster. 

 Get the sticker here:


 http://market.allhailtheblackmarket.com/market/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=2products_id=79

 --mike



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
For a no nonsense, decent looking, best bang for the buck rack, I like the 
Topeak Explorer.

For a higher quality rack, I prefer anything from Tubus. Nitto is fine, if you 
don't mind paying the huge premium for currency exchange.

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[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-15 Thread Matthew J
 I also have a black Tubus Cargo... the silver one Rene is selling. It's 
not as nice (finish) or beefy (size  robust construction) as  the 
Nitto, but it's a great rack. 

The Nitto is beefy but not necessarily more robust than the Tubus.  The 
Tubus Cargo is an excellent design that uses proven structural features to 
ensure strength.  Likewise Bruce Gordon's racks.  The Nitto is more about 
being big - but certainly lovely to look at nonetheless.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread bobish
Seems like a google (partial) mobile glitch. On my iPad, the attached 
thumbnails are upside down but when I click to enlarge, they're right side up. 

Perry

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[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem

2013-04-15 Thread samh
Submitted for your consideration:  a crunchy drivetrain problem on my new 
Hilsen build.

Hey, what about some pictures?  :)


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[RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem

2013-04-15 Thread samh
Just to clarify my earlier comment:  There's wiggle which is pretty 
minor, and most moving parts have some.

Okay, that must be what I'm detecting.

Thanks for all the suggested solutions, and thanks to the op for asking the 
question in the first place.  I'm going to work my way through the 
suggestions offered in this thread to see if I can make my Riv enjoyable to 
ride again.

I replaced the cassette and chain at the end of last season, but that 
didn't stop the ghost shifting. So I'll try replacing all the chain rings 
and see if that solves the problem.  Then I'll have to see about 
overhauling my XT rear hub.  I've never done any hub work, and similar to 
the op hubs seem scary to me, but I guess I need to get over it and get 
some tools and get to work.

Another data point for the op: I tried the Silver shifters, but I couldn't 
get them to work.  Although the shifters felt silky smooth, they slipped 
like crazy.  I even got some of the recommended beeswax, but that didn't 
help at all, so I put some indexed Shimano Dura Ace bar end shifters back 
on.
 




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[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
And just to echo Joe's comment, as an AHH/Quickbeam owner, I wouldn't 
hesitate to load the HIlsen.  And I've got them set up as Identical 
Cousins - very similar in ride. 

It's a tough balance to have a spry, snappy, simple bike and have it behave 
well when loaded.  

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: New AHH build drivetrain problem

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Morgano
Not to be that guy but this is why I went to IGH and single speeds about
10 years ago. Yes it is heavier and less gears but once it is set up there
is no ghost shifting, crunching, mis-matched gears or anything like that.
I ride IGH and single speeds since after decades of dealing with
chain/sprocket issues it was nice to have one less thing to worry about.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:13 AM, samh rbwown...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Submitted for your consideration:  a crunchy drivetrain problem on my
 new Hilsen build.

 Hey, what about some pictures?  :)


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[RBW] 61cm canti rom in SF-area cl

2013-04-15 Thread Seth Vidal
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3744149782.html

not mine nor any relation but holy crap I would snap it up in a moment if
it were closer to me.



-sv

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RE: [RBW] 61cm canti rom in SF-area cl

2013-04-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
No kidding - that's a nice deal for sure.

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 11:27 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] 61cm canti rom in SF-area cl

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3744149782.html

not mine nor any relation but holy crap I would snap it up in a moment if it 
were closer to me.



-sv

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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 14:00 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 
 2. Thanks to Tom Allingham of this list for a pair of almost new
 Challenge Parigi Roubaix tires to replace the Kojaks from the Fargo.
 What nice tires! First, the feel: they are big, but they are soft and
 fluffy. So to speak. Second, how round they are! Third, pump them hard
 -- they still feel softer over bumps than the wider, softer Kojaks --
 and have none of the squirm that the Kojaks show when slightly
 underinflated. I haven't ridden them enough, or found the ideal
 pressure, to decide if they are faster than the Kojaks, but they lack
 that almost indefinable feeling that something is holding you back --
 which the Kojaks exhibited on the Ram but, oddly, not on the Fargo or
 (another pair, 559X1.35, wire bead) on the '03 Riv. Again, first
 impressions.

The ride of the Parigi Roubaix is sublime.  Pavement cracks magically
disappear.  It's uncanny.

However, the tire is a Janus.  There is another face, darkly evil: the
tires flat every 300 miles, in my experience.  



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RE: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
That was my son Sam's experience with the Parigi Roubaix tires on his 
Quickbeam, but he chalked it up to the debris strewn West Philadelphia roads.

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 14:00 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 
 2. Thanks to Tom Allingham of this list for a pair of almost new 
 Challenge Parigi Roubaix tires to replace the Kojaks from the Fargo.
 What nice tires! First, the feel: they are big, but they are soft and 
 fluffy. So to speak. Second, how round they are! Third, pump them hard
 -- they still feel softer over bumps than the wider, softer Kojaks -- 
 and have none of the squirm that the Kojaks show when slightly 
 underinflated. I haven't ridden them enough, or found the ideal 
 pressure, to decide if they are faster than the Kojaks, but they lack 
 that almost indefinable feeling that something is holding you back -- 
 which the Kojaks exhibited on the Ram but, oddly, not on the Fargo or 
 (another pair, 559X1.35, wire bead) on the '03 Riv. Again, first 
 impressions.

The ride of the Parigi Roubaix is sublime.  Pavement cracks magically 
disappear.  It's uncanny.

However, the tire is a Janus.  There is another face, darkly evil: the tires 
flat every 300 miles, in my experience.  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

2013-04-15 Thread Jan Heine
The bearings spacing on most cassette hubs is no different from that of a 
freewheel hub. With the exception of Shimano and Mavic and a few small 
makers, all freehubs have the hub bearings under the flanges, more or less. 
As long as the axle is properly designed, that is not a problem.

The problem with most freewheel hubs were the thin axles. They were 
designed for 4-speed and 115 mm spacing. With that short overhang, no 
problem. Then they added another 5 mm on the drive-side for 5-speed, and it 
was getting marginal. Then they added another 6 mm to use 6-speed, and the 
design no longer worked. They now had more than twice the lever as before, 
yet kept the diameter of the axle the same. It's surprising that it worked 
as well as it did!

Adding grooves in the axle on both sides made the problem worse. (Who needs 
to adjust their hub on both sides? Maxi put the grooves on the non-drive 
side only, so you adjusted only that side.)

There are plenty of freewheel hubs that don't break axles. Don't conclude 
from a poor execution that the entire concept is flawed. Cassette hubs have 
their own design problems. The biggest one is that the bearings under the 
cassette have to be relatively small.

Jan Heine
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On Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:22:59 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
 

 But, I'm not real keen on going back to the narrow bearing spacing from 
 the freewheel days.  (Bent waaay too many axles back then.)  



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[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread Bryan
Joe - I seem to remember the SimpleOne having stouter tubing than the 
Quickbeam - 9/6/9 (Hillborne, Atlantis, etc.) as opposed to 8/5/8 (Hilsen, 
etc.)

Bryan 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

2013-04-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 17:32 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
 Kind of afraid this would be the case, Jan.  I have a private horde of
 7 Suntour Winner Pros.  Fortunately Winner Pro were so well made, and
 now, thanks to a tip from Patrick, I found someone who is much more
 adept than I rebuilding freewheels, mine should outlive me. 

But where do you get the replacement sprockets?


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[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Pesce
+1. I'd suspect that precisely the characteristics that give the SO/QB 
their qualities will make them a poor tourer. 

Secondy, the Atlantis is widely considered one of the nicest loaded-touring 
frames ever. If I already had an Atlantis I can't imagine I'd be looking 
for a different bike to go touring with!

However, if it really is all about fit, and not some much about ineffable 
ride qualities then you should be able to get your Atlantis to match your 
SO fit prety closely. Worst case yo might have to trade someone your 56 for 
the next size up to get a perfect match...

-Pete in CT

On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:58:10 AM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 And just to echo Joe's comment, as an AHH/Quickbeam owner, I wouldn't 
 hesitate to load the HIlsen.  And I've got them set up as Identical 
 Cousins - very similar in ride. 

 It's a tough balance to have a spry, snappy, simple bike and have it 
 behave well when loaded.  

 - Jim


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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Flat every 300 miles I WISH! Flat every 30 miles is closer to my
reality!  (It's not that bad, but several week is normal.) I buy my patches
in boxes of 100.

OTOH, I'd *much* rather fix frequent flats than ride a wooden tire.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 14:00 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 
  2. Thanks to Tom Allingham of this list for a pair of almost new
  Challenge Parigi Roubaix tires to replace the Kojaks from the Fargo.
  What nice tires! First, the feel: they are big, but they are soft and
  fluffy. So to speak. Second, how round they are! Third, pump them hard
  -- they still feel softer over bumps than the wider, softer Kojaks --
  and have none of the squirm that the Kojaks show when slightly
  underinflated. I haven't ridden them enough, or found the ideal
  pressure, to decide if they are faster than the Kojaks, but they lack
  that almost indefinable feeling that something is holding you back --
  which the Kojaks exhibited on the Ram but, oddly, not on the Fargo or
  (another pair, 559X1.35, wire bead) on the '03 Riv. Again, first
  impressions.

 The ride of the Parigi Roubaix is sublime.  Pavement cracks magically
 disappear.  It's uncanny.

 However, the tire is a Janus.  There is another face, darkly evil: the
 tires flat every 300 miles, in my experience.



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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 10:03 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
 Flat every 300 miles I WISH! Flat every 30 miles is closer
 to my reality!  (It's not that bad, but several week is normal.) I buy
 my patches in boxes of 100.

Yes, but you live in goat head country.  To paraphrase something from a
movie I saw a snippet of the other day, if I owned goat head country and
Hell I would live in Hell and rent out goat head country.

1 flat every 300 mi vs 0 flats in 1734 mi on the same bike and same
roads with old style 32mm Paselas.  And experience with several other
bikes on the same rides/same roads confirms, this was no fluke.  Several
thousand on GB Cypres w/o flats on the same roads, several thousand
w/Hetres on the same roads w/o flats.  Even several thousand on same
roads on Michelin Pro2Race 25s w/o flats.  The Parigi Roubaix are the
most flat-prone tires I've ever used.  They also have a sublime ride.



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RE: [RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
You'd have to spread the rear of a QB or SimpleOne 15mm or so to get a Rohloff 
hub in there.

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Subject: [RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

559's are a great size for touring.  However, if you are particularly happy 
with the Simple One, it would be worth considering building up another with the 
Rohloff.  This Quickbeam belongs to Alex Wetmore 
http://www.phred.org/~alex/pictures/bikes/quickbeam/rohloff/

That is almost a perfect a perfect bicycle.

Of course, finding another Simple One might present a challenge.

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:30:49 PM UTC-6, allenmichael wrote:
I have a 56 Atlantis and a 58 Simple One. The Simple One is the most 
comfortable bike I have ever ridden, but I would like to have a bike I can use 
for touring (and touring will likely mean carrying my things and 1/2 or more 
for my wife). Can anyone suggest what Rivendell with gears will come closest to 
the Simple One and permit me (160 lbs) to carry a good deal of weight on 
occasion)?

I have the Simple One set up with Dove bars and a 7 or 8 mm stem, large 
saddlesack in the rear and a Riv High-Rider front rack with a basket in front. 
I ride this most days on a 6-7 mile ride each way across San Francisco from the 
ocean to near downtown.

 I've tried the Atlantis with Noodles and a flat bar (Nitto Torsion); I haven't 
yet tried it with Albatross bars or a Bosco, but I do own one of each, and this 
will probably be my next experiment. I also have a Rohloff hub that I have 
considered putting on the Simple One, but I'm not sure of the carrying capacity 
of the Simple One, and Simple 14 just doesn't sound the same.

I have also ridden my wife's 52 Alba, Hillborne, and while it is too small, the 
ride is pretty comfortable.

Will this be as easy as trying upright bars on the Atlantis?

Thanks in advance,

Michael Allen
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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Morgano
Score! Beautiful bike and a great story. I love a good CL find.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote:

 I bought a '97 Rivendell Road last week.  I discovered Rivendell a couple
 years ago, and though I identified with Grant and his Rivendell ethos, I
 never imagined I could own one of these beautiful--and expensive--machines.
  I figured the closest I'd get would be a refitted old lug frame, or a
 Surly.

 I like to cruise the local bike ads on Craigslist, and one guy listed a 97
 Rivendell with one crappy picture.  Long story short, it's the perfect
 size, the perfect bike, in non-perfect shape, for an amazing price.

 Some cleaning later, here she is:

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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread WETH
Beautiful bike.  Congratulations and happy cycling.

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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Lovely bike and great paint scheme. Enjoy the miles.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote:

 Score! Beautiful bike and a great story. I love a good CL find.


 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Tim Gavin 
 tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com wrote:

 I bought a '97 Rivendell Road last week.  I discovered Rivendell a couple
 years ago, and though I identified with Grant and his Rivendell ethos, I
 never imagined I could own one of these beautiful--and expensive--machines.
  I figured the closest I'd get would be a refitted old lug frame, or a
 Surly.

 I like to cruise the local bike ads on Craigslist, and one guy listed a
 97 Rivendell with one crappy picture.  Long story short, it's the perfect
 size, the perfect bike, in non-perfect shape, for an amazing price.

 Some cleaning later, here she is:

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[RBW] Re: Geared bike, most like Simple One?

2013-04-15 Thread Minh
AS others point out, if it really just a comfort/fit issue, then get the 
atlantis setup with similiar riding position.  The ineffable qualities will not 
be the same because the SO is setup for single-speed which for the most part 
(except for the few nutsos out there) is not setup for touring.  I have both a 
QB and SH, and the QB is more comfortable, but that's comparing Albas to 
Noodles, and the SH is setup with touring racks, fenders etc, so it's going to 
be a different experience before i leave the house.  
  

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[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-15 Thread Minh
Jay,

Valid question, i've used Axciom Racks and found them perfectly useable, same 
with Blackburn and Topeak, if that's your budget nothing wrong with it.  I have 
mostly Nitto now, why?  because i like the well thought out mounting system 
with Rivendell frames, i like the construction, and every now and then i 
succumb to the lure of pretty shiny things.  

We all apply our bike budgets in different ways, me, i'm hella cheap about 
tires...which i'm trying to change.

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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread Jim Mather
Congrats! It would be hard to do better than that for your first Riv!

happy trails
jim m
wc ca


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote:

 I bought a '97 Rivendell Road last week.  I discovered Rivendell a couple
 years ago, and though I identified with Grant and his Rivendell ethos, I
 never imagined I could own one of these beautiful--and expensive--machines.
  I figured the closest I'd get would be a refitted old lug frame, or a
 Surly.

 I like to cruise the local bike ads on Craigslist, and one guy listed a 97
 Rivendell with one crappy picture.  Long story short, it's the perfect
 size, the perfect bike, in non-perfect shape, for an amazing price.

 Some cleaning later, here she is:

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[RBW] Re: Boiled Wool

2013-04-15 Thread jinxed
Yea...I tried this once with my absolute favorite original Swobo wool cap 
with ear flaps. I got a small noggin, but even with careful supervision I 
ended up with a warped yamaka. Of course by this time Swobo dropped off the 
radar.

I really REALLY want one of the Rivendell wollies, but I have a stack of 
internet purchased hats that fit poorly so I've sworn to abstain unless I 
can try them on.

Not sure how a hem would work, but certainly curious of that avenue. I 
would think having a seam opened up and taken in would be the proper way, 
but depending on how the headband is constructed, that could be a tricky 
job.

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[RBW] Re: New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread David Spranger
Very beautiful! I love that red with the cream details.

David
Charlotte, NC

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:56:35 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

 I bought a '97 Rivendell Road last week.  I discovered Rivendell a couple 
 years ago, and though I identified with Grant and his Rivendell ethos, I 
 never imagined I could own one of these beautiful--and expensive--machines. 
  I figured the closest I'd get would be a refitted old lug frame, or a 
 Surly.

 I like to cruise the local bike ads on Craigslist, and one guy listed a 97 
 Rivendell with one crappy picture.  Long story short, it's the perfect 
 size, the perfect bike, in non-perfect shape, for an amazing price.

 Some cleaning later, here she is:



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[RBW] 56cm Canti-Sam on the Bay--And Orange!!

2013-04-15 Thread Peter M
Must resist temptation, must not look at spare credit cards
 
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-Frameset-5657cm-for-Cantilever-Brakes-/290899660265
 

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[RBW] Re: brakes for newer Hillborne frames

2013-04-15 Thread Forrest
Nice set-up, Charlie -- thanks. 

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[RBW] Re: brakes for newer Hillborne frames

2013-04-15 Thread Forrest
Hi, Jay! Glad to hear you're getting so much good use out of your green 
Hillborne. Yeah, I might be missing it a little. :-) Yours has posts for cantis 
or V's. I think the newer frames don't have those posts, so I might need a set 
of Silver sidepulls, or equivalents.

Take care!

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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
What a find! Enjoy it.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Tim Gavin
tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote:

 I bought a '97 Rivendell Road last week.  I discovered Rivendell a couple
 years ago, and though I identified with Grant and his Rivendell ethos, I
 never imagined I could own one of these beautiful--and expensive--machines.
  I figured the closest I'd get would be a refitted old lug frame, or a
 Surly.

 I like to cruise the local bike ads on Craigslist, and one guy listed a 97
 Rivendell with one crappy picture.  Long story short, it's the perfect
 size, the perfect bike, in non-perfect shape, for an amazing price.

 Some cleaning later, here she is:

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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Minh
Hmm what's the over/under on Patrick keeping these tires?  Patrick's infamous 
reputation for getting flats and the the PRs less then stellar reputation for 
being flat resistant.  seems like a bad combo, but let's see

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[RBW] Re: brakes for newer Hillborne frames

2013-04-15 Thread Peter Pesce
I've run both DC 750 centerpulls and Silver sidepulls on my Sam. Both work 
great. Just depends on your preference. Obviously to use center-pulls you 
need to to add cable hangers front and rear. Front is a standard piece. I 
used the Nitto keychain hanger from Riv in the back and it worked well. 

As Charlie said, in order to get the big tire/fender clearance you can't 
really use anything shorter.

-Pete in CT

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:16:25 PM UTC-4, Forrest wrote:

 I'm looking at the 56 cm blue single-top-tube Sam frames on the RBW site 
 and wondering which brakes they take. Are they all now the Silvers? Don't 
 seem to see any canti posts in the photos. Thanks,  -- Forrest (Chicago)




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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 10:44 -0700, Minh wrote:
 Hmm what's the over/under on Patrick keeping these tires?  Patrick's infamous 
 reputation for getting flats and the the PRs less then stellar reputation for 
 being flat resistant.  seems like a bad combo, but let's see
 

I guess it's a bit like asking what is the value of infinity divided by
10.  

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[RBW] Another question on shrinking wool: ss jersey

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I have a Nike jersey that fits fine in width but is too long -- the rear
pockets are down level with my pants' hip pockets. Any suggestions more
particularly for shrinking a jersey in length by about 10-12% while keeping
the width more or less the same? -- it is loose enough that a little
shrinkage there is fine. It is short-sleeved, so I am not worried about
sleeve shrinkage.

This is not a prized jersey, so I am willing to take some risk, but I don't
want to attempt anything if it is guaranteed to leave me with a tiny,
matted mass of wool.

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[RBW] Re: Watergap adventure tour

2013-04-15 Thread hsmitham
Great picture! Love to see Riv's out there. 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:02:07 PM UTC-7, djbardwil wrote:

 My wife and I are definitely doing this next year.  That shot is awesome!

 Go NJ Rivendells!

 On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:53:57 PM UTC-4, Norman wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Another question on shrinking wool: ss jersey

2013-04-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
In my experience knit wool (the only kind I've boiled) shrinks evenly in 
all directions, so I would say you're doomed to get equal direction 
shrinkage. Have you tried a stretching rack for yourself? Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:53:29 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I have a Nike jersey that fits fine in width but is too long -- the rear 
 pockets are down level with my pants' hip pockets. Any suggestions more 
 particularly for shrinking a jersey in length by about 10-12% while keeping 
 the width more or less the same? -- it is loose enough that a little 
 shrinkage there is fine. It is short-sleeved, so I am not worried about 
 sleeve shrinkage.

 This is not a prized jersey, so I am willing to take some risk, but I 
 don't want to attempt anything if it is guaranteed to leave me with a tiny, 
 matted mass of wool.

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[RBW] Re: Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13

2013-04-15 Thread Manuel Acosta
Had a blast! Huge thanks for Andy and Tommy for being the highlight of my 
trip.

Pictures prove that sun sometimes comes out in Portland:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEGYxTT

-Manny What that yellow thing is the sky? Acosta

On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:09:42 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 People showed up and the ride happened. We rode about 30 miles on mixed 
 terrain and under mixed skies. Good times. Pics 
 herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633235349921/
  --Smitty


 On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 There was another discussion on this topic but the date in the heading of 
 that one was wrong so I'm starting a fresh discussion. 

 Manny is coming to town (Portland, OR) this week and wants to go for a 
 ride on Saturday 4/13. I'm not sure if there's a plan already brewing. I do 
 know that he has to be back to his hotel by 1pm. 

 I'm up for whatever. I'm willing to put something together if need be. 

 List member Norm and I were talking about possibly heading out for an 
 overnighter after the ride. That will be somewhat weather dependent. 

 --Smitty




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[RBW] Delaware Water Gap Adventure photos etc

2013-04-15 Thread Joan Oppel
Here's a link so you can get a taste of what it was like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30856149@N04/sets/72157633254777022/We met on a chilly morning (low 40's at the start), 11 riders, 9 Rivs: Bleriot,AtlantisA Homer Hilsens - 2Sam HillborneAll-RounderBombadils - 3Kelly BedfordKogswellWe rode about 45 miles each day, and it was about as scenic as you could ask for on a ride. Streams, forest, mountains, some dirt and gravel, waterfalls, low traffic, old country towns with historic (or historic-looking) buildings. And lots of climbing! And wonderful companions. We left the parking lot in Columbia NJ, and after a few miles into theWorthington State Forestfor a few miles and then into the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area. We rode for miles along the Delaware River on the Old MIne Road, said to be the oldest paved road in the U.S. Then for more adventure, we turned onto dirt/gravel Mountain Rd up to Buttermilk Falls. We continued from there with Pocono Mountains to our west and eventually came out on pavement and then into Milford, PA. Neat old houses, hotels - and after allotting 30 minutes to clean up (because cleaning up was not a priority), we regrouped to ride to beer at the Dimmick Inn (where we also ate dinner). Great breakfast at the Milford Diner (where we all bought carryout lunch sandwiches) and then off for the next phase of the adventure: riding in the Stokes Forest. Beautiful scenic woods, streams -- and much climbing. Bobby said that we should ignore the one-way road signs, there wouldn't be much traffic. Reward: gorgeous view from top of Sunrise Mountain. On to lunch at Swartswood State Park. Then onto a dead end road to lead to the Paulinskill Trail - Bobby said we should ignore the road closed sign - it didn't apply to us. We eventually got to the Paulinskill Trail - the only dirt section for today. We rode along the Paulinskill River for miles - again very scenic. This was a terrific ride, Bobby did a super job of organizing. Enjoy, Joan



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Re: [RBW] Watergap adventure tour - attendees!

2013-04-15 Thread Joan Oppel
Forgot to mention the attendees:Tom A and sons Hank and Sam - Atlantis, Bombadil, HomerBobby B - BombadilNorm R - Sam HillborneTom R - All-RounderJoan O - BleriotRay - HomerJohn P - BombadilSteve P - KogswellSarah C - Kelly BedfordWe came from Delaware, Philadelphia, Arlington, VA, Alexandria, VA, New Jersey, Connecticut and New York.On 04/13/13, Norman Rosenblumnorr...@gmail.com wrote:Day 1 group photo-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



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[RBW] Re: Watergap adventure tour

2013-04-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Beautiful pic in a great location. Ride On!
--Smitty

On Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:53:57 PM UTC-7, Norman wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Good catch... 

I, Smitty, wrote:  *I also have a black Tubus Cargo... the silver one Rene 
is selling. It's not as nice (finish) or beefy (size  robust 
construction) as the Nitto, but it's a great rack.* 

To which Matthew J responded: *The Nitto is beefy but not necessarily more 
robust than the Tubus.  The Tubus Cargo is an excellent design that uses 
proven structural features to ensure strength.  *

I shouldn't have said that the Tubus was somehow a less robust rack. It's 
not. I suppose I said that referencing the triangles on the Nitto BBR, but 
the Tubus Cargo has an additional set of vertical stays that go from the 
drop-out attachment up to one of the cross members at the platform and it 
adds an element of side-to-side triangulation. FWIW... I bought the Tubus 
in response to using the Nitto and wanting a few things different. 

Regarding why I buy pricey racks... I like that they're steel and I think 
that they (particularly Nitto and Tubus) look well constructed. I also have 
a Surly Big Front rack on my Big Dummy because it had a large platform for 
a basket, can take panniers, is compatible with disc brakes, has a front 
light mount, and did not attach via the wheel skewer. It was the cheapest 
rack I could find that met those criteria. The wife's commuter bike has a 
$30-ish aluminum blackburn rack that has been working perfectly fine for 
several years of 5-day/week commuting. 

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[RBW] Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13

2013-04-15 Thread Aaron Young
Manny- so glad you came and brought decent weather with you.   Thanks again
for lending/giving me that blue bandana.  You may have lost a bandana, but
you gained a friend. I owe you one.

-Aaron why don't you want this sweat-soaked bandana back? Young
Vancouver, WA



On Monday, April 15, 2013, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Had a blast! Huge thanks for Andy and Tommy for being the highlight of my
 trip.

 Pictures prove that sun sometimes comes out in Portland:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEGYxTT

 -Manny What that yellow thing is the sky? Acosta

 On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:09:42 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 People showed up and the ride happened. We rode about 30 miles on mixed
 terrain and under mixed skies. Good times. Pics 
 herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633235349921/
  --Smitty


 On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 There was another discussion on this topic but the date in the heading
 of that one was wrong so I'm starting a fresh discussion.

 Manny is coming to town (Portland, OR) this week and wants to go for a
 ride on Saturday 4/13. I'm not sure if there's a plan already brewing. I do
 know that he has to be back to his hotel by 1pm.

 I'm up for whatever. I'm willing to put something together if need be.

 List member Norm and I were talking about possibly heading out for an
 overnighter after the ride. That will be somewhat weather dependent.

 --Smitty


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[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions

2013-04-15 Thread Garth
Racktime Racks come in silver .  Their parent company is Tubus, and they 
share many design traits.  Racktimes are in Aluminum only. 

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[RBW] Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Zack
Hey all.

I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a 
one person bike camping tent.  I currently have the hennessy hammock, which 
is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 
3 person tent.

I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going 
somewhere that I am not sure about setting up the hammock.

I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing 
with bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes 
up in order to be able to sleep at night.

Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their 
options works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you 
guys.

Any thoughts on this?  Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't 
like and want to get rid of?  

Much obliged!

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[RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
Zack,

My personal experience with tarp tents is they are too weight conscious at 
the expense of durability and protection from weather and bugs. As a family 
we use Hilleberg, and for solos I use their Akto. It is a wondrous 4-season 
tent that has withstood 100ËšF+ desert and high winds and snow and cold and 
everything in-between. It's a bit of extra weight vs. an ultralight tent 
(by a pound or two?) -- weight I gladly carry for the assurance of a bug 
free, dry, protected place to sleep no matter the situation. Plus it is 
ridiculously easy to set up completely dry inside even when raining.
http://www.hilleberg.com/home/products/solo.php

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 15, 2013 3:56:48 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote:

 Hey all.

 I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a 
 one person bike camping tent.  I currently have the hennessy hammock, which 
 is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 
 3 person tent.

 I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going 
 somewhere that I am not sure about setting up the hammock.

 I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing 
 with bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes 
 up in order to be able to sleep at night.

 Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their 
 options works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you 
 guys.

 Any thoughts on this?  Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't 
 like and want to get rid of?  

 Much obliged!


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[RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread BSWP
I lead week-long backpack trips in the Sierra, and have seen tarp tents on 
several recent trips. They held up quite well in some very wet conditions, 
I was impressed with how well they performed. They were from Henry Shire's 
site: http://www.tarptent.com Quite light weight, and would be just as 
useful on a bicycle trip, I presume.

Personally, I get by just fine with only a tarp and some rigging line, and 
stakes.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, April 15, 2013 2:56:48 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:

 Hey all.

 I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a 
 one person bike camping tent.  I currently have the hennessy hammock, which 
 is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 
 3 person tent.

 I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going 
 somewhere that I am not sure about setting up the hammock.

 I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing 
 with bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes 
 up in order to be able to sleep at night.

 Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their 
 options works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you 
 guys.

 Any thoughts on this?  Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't 
 like and want to get rid of?  

 Much obliged!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Ray Shine
I have used a tarptent rainbow for years, including many multi- day trips in 
the Sierra, one a 22 day trip on the JMT. Never a problem in rain or wind. 
Highly recommend the entire line.

Sent from my iPhone.

On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:01 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:

 I lead week-long backpack trips in the Sierra, and have seen tarp tents on 
 several recent trips. They held up quite well in some very wet conditions, I 
 was impressed with how well they performed. They were from Henry Shire's 
 site: http://www.tarptent.com Quite light weight, and would be just as useful 
 on a bicycle trip, I presume.
 
 Personally, I get by just fine with only a tarp and some rigging line, and 
 stakes.
 
 - Andrew, Berkeley
 
 On Monday, April 15, 2013 2:56:48 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 
 I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a 
 one person bike camping tent.  I currently have the hennessy hammock, which 
 is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 
 3 person tent.
 
 I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going somewhere 
 that I am not sure about setting up the hammock.
 
 I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing with 
 bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes up in 
 order to be able to sleep at night.
 
 Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their options 
 works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you guys.
 
 Any thoughts on this?  Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't like 
 and want to get rid of?  
 
 Much obliged!
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[RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
The wife and I used an Henry Shires Tarp Tent on our 05 PCT hike. We 
abandoned it after a couple hundred miles due to overcrowding. I forget the 
model name (it has it's own poles ie no hiking poles needed). It was 
labeled a 2-person. We joked that 1.5 would be more accurate. I continue 
to use it as a solo shelter and it's great. Have had it out in big winds, 
snow, and rain and lived to tell the tale.I'm 6'3 190lbs. Mine has a 
floor, full bug net w/ zippered door, and a beak (covered porch). 

I'm not really up to date on their current line up, but my Tarptent 
experience has been great. 

All that said... I prefer to sleep in my Hennessy Hammock. And in the NW 
finding trees is rarely a problem. 

FWIW... My fantasy shelter is a Warbonnet Hammock. 

--Smitty

On Monday, April 15, 2013 2:56:48 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:

 Hey all.

 I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a 
 one person bike camping tent.  I currently have the hennessy hammock, which 
 is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 
 3 person tent.

 I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going 
 somewhere that I am not sure about setting up the hammock.

 I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing 
 with bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes 
 up in order to be able to sleep at night.

 Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their 
 options works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you 
 guys.

 Any thoughts on this?  Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't 
 like and want to get rid of?  

 Much obliged!


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Re: [RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Ray Shine
Incidentally, i have also used  a Hennessey. I recommend both . I have used 
cracks in boulders as a hang point for the Hennessey.

Sent from my iPhone.

On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I have used a tarptent rainbow for years, including many multi- day trips in 
 the Sierra, one a 22 day trip on the JMT. Never a problem in rain or wind. 
 Highly recommend the entire line.
 
 Sent from my iPhone.
 
 On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:01 PM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I lead week-long backpack trips in the Sierra, and have seen tarp tents on 
 several recent trips. They held up quite well in some very wet conditions, I 
 was impressed with how well they performed. They were from Henry Shire's 
 site: http://www.tarptent.com Quite light weight, and would be just as 
 useful on a bicycle trip, I presume.
 
 Personally, I get by just fine with only a tarp and some rigging line, and 
 stakes.
 
 - Andrew, Berkeley
 
 On Monday, April 15, 2013 2:56:48 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
 
 Hey all.
 
 I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a 
 one person bike camping tent.  I currently have the hennessy hammock, which 
 is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 
 3 person tent.
 
 I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going 
 somewhere that I am not sure about setting up the hammock.
 
 I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing 
 with bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes 
 up in order to be able to sleep at night.
 
 Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their 
 options works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you 
 guys.
 
 Any thoughts on this?  Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't 
 like and want to get rid of?  
 
 Much obliged!
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[RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I didn't quite finish my thought... even with the floor, beak and bug 
net... you're still somewhat out in the open. You can see out 360, feel the 
breeze, etc. Also, like a hammock, there's a learning curve for setting it 
up right and quick. 

--Smitty

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[RBW] Re: Delaware Water Gap Adventure photos etc

2013-04-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Looks like great times, and a high percentage of Rivs to boot!

--Smitty

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Tim Gavin
If you want a fully-screened yet super light shelter, I'd go with a bivy
sack or a lightweight tent.  I have a Big Agnes tent that has held up
pretty well for 5-6 years, and they make very light (2lbs) solo tents that
aren't too pricey.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote:

 I didn't quite finish my thought... even with the floor, beak and bug
 net... you're still somewhat out in the open. You can see out 360, feel the
 breeze, etc. Also, like a hammock, there's a learning curve for setting it
 up right and quick.

 --Smitty

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[RBW] Re: Delaware Water Gap Adventure photos etc

2013-04-15 Thread Michael


 Thanks for posting pics! Looked like a fun time.


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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread ted
Steve,

Was this with the earlier hand glued tires or the more recent vulcanized 
ones?

thnks
Ted

On Monday, April 15, 2013 8:36:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:



 The ride of the Parigi Roubaix is sublime.  Pavement cracks magically 
 disappear.  It's uncanny. 

 However, the tire is a Janus.  There is another face, darkly evil: the 
 tires flat every 300 miles, in my experience.   





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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Will -- thanks for the info -- I'll do that, viz. just start high and let
air out until things feel too soft, to determine the appropriate range.

Goatheads: well, that's the penalty of using good tires. As I said earlier,
I'd rather patch than ride Armadillos, say -- and even Armadillos won't
stop goatheads. Odd, the 60 mm Big Apple Liteskins I use on the Fargo are,
of all tires I've cared to ride -- for massively heavy (the lite model is
800 grams) the most flat resistant -- on dirt, they shrug off 9/10, on
pavement, say 1/2. Usually run at absurdly low pressures, on- and off-road.

At Stevie's bike shop, a regular treatment ($20/wheel) is to install
excruciatingly heavy and stiff thorn proof tubes after inserting True Goo
(a Slime clone) and using the old tubes, slit, as wrappers around the new
ones. Even that, says Stevie, blocks only 3/4 thorns. And often, the tires
in question have protective belts. Talk about wooden.

Fortunately, most goathead punctures are slow leaks and, since my rides are
short distances I generally find my punctures only after I get home. Still,
I am very used to fixing flats on the go.

Patrick Moore, who fixed two punctures today in ABQ, NM

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[RBW] best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread Eric
I'm curious about folk's techniques for making sure brake levers are equal 
height  level on the bars. 

I have a recent Riv build and need to equal out the levers.

Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

- Eric

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[RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread William
Follow the rivbike youtube video of Mark doing just that.  

On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:14:03 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 I'm curious about folk's techniques for making sure brake levers are equal 
 height  level on the bars. 

 I have a recent Riv build and need to equal out the levers.

 Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

 - Eric


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Re: [RBW] best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My fool-proof method: eyeball, tighten, install housing, tape bar, ride,
discover that one is higher/lower than the other, curse, untape, re-cut
housing, re-tape. Repeat as needed.

Actually, that was my old method. My new method, born of desperation, is to
measure the levers in various ways -- saddle nose to tip of lever, ground
to tip of lever, center of stem clamp to tip of lever, the sit on bike and
feel them -- until I am reasonably convinced tha they look and feel
right, then install housing and tape.

Funny: building the Ram -- freewheel, for once -- I took the bike, without
thinking, out for a ride up and down my street to get a feel for the brake
lever positions. Street is inclined. Cables not hooked up. Was surprised --
and lucky -- with the Fred Flinstone manoeuvre.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm curious about folk's techniques for making sure brake levers are equal
 height  level on the bars.

 I have a recent Riv build and need to equal out the levers.

 Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

 - Eric

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[RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread Michael


 If you are talkin' drop bars, they should be level because
 Rivendell has a video showing how they do it:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0


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[RBW] Re: Tarptent advice?

2013-04-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
Zach, we use one of the larger Tarptents, (Rainbow?)  Our use is mostly for 
canoe trips so we're not overly weight conscious.  We have had very good 
luck with the tent.  It is durable, waterproof,  spacious.  But, there is 
a learning curve in setting it up, because it must be taut to be 
watertight.  Also, the poles they supply are way to flexible; you 
absolutely need a pair if treking poles to get this tent to work reliably. 
 If you buy it plan on taking some time practicing in the back yard, but 
once you have mastered it, the tent goes up fast and secure.

Michael



On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:56:48 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

 Hey all.

 I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a 
 one person bike camping tent.  I currently have the hennessy hammock, which 
 is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 
 3 person tent.

 I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going 
 somewhere that I am not sure about setting up the hammock.

 I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing 
 with bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes 
 up in order to be able to sleep at night.

 Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their 
 options works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you 
 guys.

 Any thoughts on this?  Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't 
 like and want to get rid of?  

 Much obliged!


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[RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread Michael


 Riv does it like this:

 *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0



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[RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread Eric
Awesome! Their video's helped me before so I should of looked their 
first...thanks!!!

On Monday, April 15, 2013 7:43:13 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Riv does it like this:

 *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0



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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Leslie
FWIW:


Every camera I've ever used, has the shutter button on top on the right, 
where your right index finger would trigger it (unless it had a motor drive 
and multiple shutter buttons).  

Now, the iPhone is ubiquitous when it comes to photography.

Initially, it was via the on-screen button that the picture was always 
taken; but much to my delight, they added the functionality of having the 
volume button double as a shutter button.  Lay the phone sideways, 
horizontally, with the volume button where your right finger is on top, and 
click away.

AND THEN THE PHOTOS ARE UPSIDE DOWN ON A PC!

Looking at 'em on an iPhone or an iPad, and it knows to turn them over.   
But open them up on a PC, and they're upside-down.

Apple's solution?   You're holding it upside down; turn it over the other 
way

What?!?!   No camera has a shutter button on the bottom left.   How nuts


It's not you, Patrick.It's Apple.


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[RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Some of the newer bars, but not Nitto afaik, put marks on the curve of the bar 
so you can easily align the levers.

If I don't have those markings, I use a broomstick and my eyeball.

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Re: [RBW] Ram: loaded; Parigi-Roubaix tires; dt shifters: trade?

2013-04-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2013-04-15 at 16:51 -0700, ted wrote:
 Steve,
 
 
 Was this with the earlier hand glued tires or the more recent
 vulcanized ones?

Nobody but Jan has ever seen the hand-glued prototypes




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[RBW] Anyone gone to all upright bars - Albatross, Bosco, etc?

2013-04-15 Thread marktaintor
I've just recently ordered a new single top tube Sam that Jim Thill will be 
helping me to assemble. I noticed that all of Grant P's bikes are shown 
with upright bars on the staff bikes page of the Riv website. Have any of 
the rest of you gone all upright. Any limits for how far you've found an 
albatross or bosco bar to be comfortable?
Thanks,
Mark

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[RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread Tonester
I use a length of broom handle as a straight edge, resting in the crook on 
top of the hoods.  It tends to want to find the lowest spot.  I eyeball the 
broom handle's angle to the straight edge of the top of the handlebar.

On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:43:13 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Riv does it like this:

 *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUm3VzF_Z0



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Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

2013-04-15 Thread Lee Legrand
Is Sun XCD a different company than SR SUNTOUR?
https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/
http://www.srsuntour-cycling.com/SID=si2a13400691526f93776ec0bdf6d126/index.php


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 17:32 -0700, Matthew J wrote:
  Kind of afraid this would be the case, Jan.  I have a private horde of
  7 Suntour Winner Pros.  Fortunately Winner Pro were so well made, and
  now, thanks to a tip from Patrick, I found someone who is much more
  adept than I rebuilding freewheels, mine should outlive me.

 But where do you get the replacement sprockets?


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[RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!

2013-04-15 Thread dougP
I use a carpenter's level.  Get the bike vertical, then lay it across the 
hoods.  If I'm within half a bubble, I can't tell anything is off.  Oh, and 
NEVER tape the bars until you've ridden a bit to make sure everything is 
exactly where you want it.  

dougP

On Monday, April 15, 2013 5:14:03 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 I'm curious about folk's techniques for making sure brake levers are equal 
 height  level on the bars. 

 I have a recent Riv build and need to equal out the levers.

 Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

 - Eric


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[RBW] OT-Cool Lugged bike for 7 year old (has to be girly)

2013-04-15 Thread Peter M
My daughter has all of a sudden taken an interest in my bike collection and 
keeps hollering at me to build her a cool bike.  I have been looking 
around CL and ebay but all I see is either old stuff that was crap when new 
or new stuff that is just crap. Shame girls bikes get the short end of the 
stick. To add to the challenge my daughter is a princess and wont be seen 
on something not pink or purple and sparkly. So I could get  something 
intended for a boy and get  re-spray but I know there are a good bit of 
parents on here who might have a better idea. Cali said she wants a bike 
like daddys, not like the ones she sees in walmart, made me smile. 

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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread hsmitham
Beautiful color and a great score! Now ya just need a honey B-17.

Enjoy,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:32:53 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 What a find! Enjoy it.

 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Tim Gavin 
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  wrote:

 I bought a '97 Rivendell Road last week.  I discovered Rivendell a couple 
 years ago, and though I identified with Grant and his Rivendell ethos, I 
 never imagined I could own one of these beautiful--and expensive--machines. 
  I figured the closest I'd get would be a refitted old lug frame, or a 
 Surly.

 I like to cruise the local bike ads on Craigslist, and one guy listed a 
 97 Rivendell with one crappy picture.  Long story short, it's the perfect 
 size, the perfect bike, in non-perfect shape, for an amazing price.

 Some cleaning later, here she is:

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Re: [RBW] OT-Cool Lugged bike for 7 year old (has to be girly)

2013-04-15 Thread Jim Mather
How tall is she? I would think that would be the limiting factor. There are
road racing bikes with 24 wheels, both new (mostly aluminum but even some
cf) and vintage steel with lugs. I don't know how easy it would be to find
a vintage one, but if you queried the Classics Rendezvous list, you'd
probably turn up something. I think Joe Bunik on this list has one hanging
in his garage, along with a bunch of other project frames that will
probably never get built (just kidding Joe).

My daughter studies French and wanted a French bike, so I found a lugged
steel Peugeot mixte in purple. Polished it up, replaced the heavy steel 27
wheels with alloy 700's, replaced the junky Simplex with Shimano, added
Nitto Dove bars, and voila, a classy purple get-around town bike. That was
when she was about 11, and a bit under 5' tall.

jim m
wc ca


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:

 My daughter has all of a sudden taken an interest in my bike collection
 and keeps hollering at me to build her a cool bike.  I have been looking
 around CL and ebay but all I see is either old stuff that was crap when new
 or new stuff that is just crap. Shame girls bikes get the short end of the
 stick. To add to the challenge my daughter is a princess and wont be seen
 on something not pink or purple and sparkly. So I could get  something
 intended for a boy and get  re-spray but I know there are a good bit of
 parents on here who might have a better idea. Cali said she wants a bike
 like daddys, not like the ones she sees in walmart, made me smile.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

2013-04-15 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Thanks for bringing up those points, Jan - I'm not specifically against 
freewheels.  My experience was that I regularly bent axles on my old mtb 
which had a freewheel and never had that problem with any freehubs.  My 
recollection was that the mtb (which was a six speed 1983 drivetrain) had 
narrower cones than my XT and DuraAce freehubs.  But again, no data to back 
that up.

And I guess the point I was really trying to make stemmed from your comment 
about the loss of tooling, expertise and the necessary economies of scale 
involved in making a quality freewheel today.  Since most of the bicycle 
market probably is less likely to support it, it seems freewheel production 
isn't likely to increase.  But since there are plenty of freehubs around, 
why not continue to let them make the ratchety bits and focus on making 
something that is not designed to shift in a crosswind.  Okay, that's 
overstating it, but it seems to me that creating a longer-toothed cassette 
of longer-wearing material might be a simpler option. 

I just recall walking into the old shops and looking at the cog board in 
the back.  It seems like it should be comparatively easy to come up with a 
similar solution.  Though I'm ignorant of any constraints which are in 
place for makers having to license the interface spline from Shimano.  

- Jim / cyclofiend.com



On Monday, April 15, 2013 8:43:36 AM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:

 The bearings spacing on most cassette hubs is no different from that of a 
 freewheel hub. With the exception of Shimano and Mavic and a few small 
 makers, all freehubs have the hub bearings under the flanges, more or less. 
 As long as the axle is properly designed, that is not a problem.

 The problem with most freewheel hubs were the thin axles. They were 
 designed for 4-speed and 115 mm spacing. With that short overhang, no 
 problem. Then they added another 5 mm on the drive-side for 5-speed, and it 
 was getting marginal. Then they added another 6 mm to use 6-speed, and the 
 design no longer worked. They now had more than twice the lever as before, 
 yet kept the diameter of the axle the same. It's surprising that it worked 
 as well as it did!

 Adding grooves in the axle on both sides made the problem worse. (Who 
 needs to adjust their hub on both sides? Maxi put the grooves on the 
 non-drive side only, so you adjusted only that side.)

 There are plenty of freewheel hubs that don't break axles. Don't conclude 
 from a poor execution that the entire concept is flawed. Cassette hubs have 
 their own design problems. The biggest one is that the bearings under the 
 cassette have to be relatively small.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
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 Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

 On Sunday, April 14, 2013 11:22:59 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
  

 But, I'm not real keen on going back to the narrow bearing spacing from 
 the freewheel days.  (Bent waaay too many axles back then.)  



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Re: [RBW] New Riv owner -- this time, with pictures!

2013-04-15 Thread PeterG
Beauty! Love the colors...

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[RBW] Re: Anyone gone to all upright bars - Albatross, Bosco, etc?

2013-04-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I rode my Alba-bar'd bike 40 miles on Saturday for the Manny in PDX Ride. I 
think the furthest I've ridden my Bosco'd bike in a day is 35 miles. I 
don't remember a time on either bike where I was wanting different bars. I 
imagine I could ride either bar further without issue. I think a bigger 
issue is having a saddle that's appropriate for the riding position. My 
Homer has Noodles. I like the variety between the set ups. 

--Smitty

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Re: [RBW] Anyone gone to all upright bars - Albatross, Bosco, etc?

2013-04-15 Thread Michael Williams
Hello, My Name is Mike,   and Im an all Upright rider.   I have 4 bikes.  2
with Albas, 1 with Boscos and 1 with the Sycip Wonder Bar.   Ive gone 80
miles on Albas a few times,   and Im gonna tour with them this summer on my
Atlantis.   I dont find they hinder me at all when riding distance,
actually they definitely help.   Never been more comfortable,  but
everyones different.   -Mike


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:36 AM, marktain...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just recently ordered a new single top tube Sam that Jim Thill will
 be helping me to assemble. I noticed that all of Grant P's bikes are shown
 with upright bars on the staff bikes page of the Riv website. Have any of
 the rest of you gone all upright. Any limits for how far you've found an
 albatross or bosco bar to be comfortable?
 Thanks,
 Mark

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