Re: [RBW] Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
By turn in I mean the way the bike responds in turns. All the Rivs I've owned (5) have exhibited in one degree or another a sublime smoothness in the transition between straight and turn, that is, no understeer nor oversteer. So much is this so, and sufficiently more than other bikes I've ridden, that it stands out clearly and consistently despite distinct differences in other handling qualities. All exhibit the same smooth turn in transition sufficiently to call it a common trait, all the way from the first Waterford road which was too quick (for my taste) with sub 1 tires, but still smooth in the transition; to the Sam Hill which was much slower, but again, still smooth in that transition, notably in fast downhill sweepers. Shy in ABQ. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: On Patrick M.: I THINK the chainstays are around 55cm, so crazy long—but someone at Riv should confirm. And I don't even know what 'the signature Rivendell turn in' is, so you'll have to elaborate. I know that will be a challenge as you are so shy to post. On Handling: I got a great tutorial from Grant on the challenges of designing a bike for a short/small person. It's hard to do right and as a result, most tend to be tippy/twitchy. I would invite Grant to offer his ideas because I'll not do it justice. What I can say is that as a short woman who's been around the block a few times, I've had my share of ill-fitting, ill-handling bikes. Not this one. You get on and it feels right, rock-solid, go anywhere, do anything, feel like it's a part of you. that was instant. I think Manny felt it too—but Manny, I'd love it if you chime in too. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Any Rivsters in Pittsburgh?
Let me know; am coming to your fair city (but without a bike) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Hutchinson Top Slick 26: X 1.2 tires
The original model, NOS or used in good condition. I just discovered these to find they are no longer made (I don't want the V 2 that is being sold today). Please reply off list. Thanks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
+1 Exactly! -JimD On Mar 29, 2014, at 7:26 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: By turn in I mean the way the bike responds in turns. All the Rivs I've owned (5) have exhibited in one degree or another a sublime smoothness in the transition between straight and turn, that is, no understeer nor oversteer. So much is this so, and sufficiently more than other bikes I've ridden, that it stands out clearly and consistently despite distinct differences in other handling qualities. All exhibit the same smooth turn in transition sufficiently to call it a common trait, all the way from the first Waterford road which was too quick (for my taste) with sub 1 tires, but still smooth in the transition; to the Sam Hill which was much slower, but again, still smooth in that transition, notably in fast downhill sweepers. Shy in ABQ. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: On Patrick M.: I THINK the chainstays are around 55cm, so crazy long--but someone at Riv should confirm. And I don't even know what 'the signature Rivendell turn in' is, so you'll have to elaborate. I know that will be a challenge as you are so shy to post. On Handling: I got a great tutorial from Grant on the challenges of designing a bike for a short/small person. It's hard to do right and as a result, most tend to be tippy/twitchy. I would invite Grant to offer his ideas because I'll not do it justice. What I can say is that as a short woman who's been around the block a few times, I've had my share of ill-fitting, ill-handling bikes. Not this one. You get on and it feels right, rock-solid, go anywhere, do anything, feel like it's a part of you. that was instant. I think Manny felt it too--but Manny, I'd love it if you chime in too. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Riv on tires. LOL!
The horse is starting to look sorta bedraggled from all the beating. ButIt's not dead yet! :) -JimD On Mar 28, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I was certainly joking, but it's always your mileage may vary because we all makes our choices on our perceptions of function - some people don't like Brooks B17 (I'm Not one of those). On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:15:56 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Ron, so were you joking above or just using empirical as a synonym for objective? Clearly you don't mean that there is NOTHING objective. My top tube is objectively 28.6mm in diameter. I objectively rode my road bike 3.6 miles from the car repair shop to my office. I subjectively enjoyed myself. The bike subjectively felt fast to me. My Bombadil is objectively heavier than my road bike and objectively slower with a given effort. Subjectively I sometimes prefer to ride the Bombadil and sometimes I prefer to ride my road bike. Just because people have different personal preferences doesn't mean that there are no objectively measureable quantities in the world of cycling. Personal preference is subjective, that's for sure. I can't tell you what you prefer, and you can't tell me what I prefer. But there are plenty of aspects of cycling that are objectively measureable. Those objective truths don't have to force your preference, but your preference doesn't change the measurements either. You just like what you like. Maybe what you mean is that there is nothing in cycling that is both purely qualitative and objective. Everybody makes qualitative judgments for themselves, subjectively. If that's what you meant, then I agree with you. Sorry for delving into Philosophical Phriday. I'm going to sneak out for a short ride on my lunch-hour On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:46:24 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: Bill is pretty accurate there, but I think the truth is nothing is objective in cycling. It's all subjective. And that's OK. We make our choices for the function we desire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kickstand Questions
We have a Pletscher double kickstand on our Co-Motion Periscope and it works great, even fully loaded touring. Wouldn't be without it. PY http://www.flickr.com/photos/26908318@N06/5115173325/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
This will probably get deleted because I don’t know how to make it not sound snotty but it is a sincere question. Is the point to get to places on a bike that would be easier to get to by just backpacking or is the bike still helping you go farther/faster? On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: It's a Surly Krampus built up by Cycle Monkey, the US service partner for Rohloff. Belt drives are a natural partner to internal gear hubs, so Cycle Monkey builds up a lot of Rohloff + belt drive bikes. They sent the frame to their chop shop to have the frame split for the belt and to have a few other mods. They do a lot of frame modifications. When they sent my frame to the chop shop, they also sent seven other Surly frames: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=664808040227860set=pb.304605066248161.-220752.1396021612.type=3theater I asked Neil at Cycle Monkey how soon I needed to replace the belt. Maybe 15 thousand miles, he said. The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) I debated on whether to pick the ECR or the Krampus. The ECR is more of a touring style bike, with a lower bottom bracket and more stable handling, and the Krampus is more of a trail bike, although both of them are well suited to rough technical terrain. I ended up deciding that if I needed a bike to tour on smooth gravel roads, I already have one, in fact I already have two, my two Atlantises. So this bike is for tours that include somewhat rougher terrain. Yesterday I took the bike up a canyon that I've ridden before on my Atlantis. I felt comfortable riding several obstacles I wouldn't do on my Atlantis: a creek crossing, a sharp dip. I was glad of the higher bottom bracket on a single track I hadn't ridden before, where I had a couple of pedal strikes even with the higher bracket. And I was able to descend back down the canyon in confidence; on the Atlantis I would always go back home from that ride on the road. Midnight, Prince of Darkness has traction to burn, and the disk brakes provide strong stopping power, so I felt in control on the descents. Other Riv riders are better bike handlers than I am, and would have tackled these obstacles on their Rivendells. But for me, the Krampus is a good choice for more technical terrain. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Based on ground clearance, I'm guessing Krampus and completely prepared to be wrong. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:48:07 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Nice bike! ECR? or Krampus? or ?? Did you have to get an aftermarket split for the belt drive? Happy riding! Shoji On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:30:49 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: It's not a Rivendell, but it has some Rivvy features. Meet Midnight, Prince of Darkness: https://plus.google.com/photos/+JohnLamping/albums/5995658591943182593?authkey=CKDxg7ehtuv6QQ I got it yesterday, took it out for a longer ride today. Fantastic. I quickly got used to the instant Rohloff shifting. Rohloff + belt drive means not much maintenance, which is good for someone with my slipshod habits. It's not obvious in the picture, but those tires are not just wide, but HUGE. I rode my Atlantis over to get the car to drive up to Cycle Monkey to get Midnight. So then I had two bikes to put in the car, and I happened to put the Atlantis wheel next to Midnight's wheel. The Atlantis' tire is not tiny; I have Schwalbe 1.9's on the bike. Midnight's wheel was six inches taller. Huge. Now I can do dirt tours and not get nervous on narrow bumpy trails. I have a USB port in the stem. Because I am a nerd. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
[RBW] Bosco Bullmoose Bars
I ride a Simpleone on fairly rough trails quite a lot. I have used the Soma Sparrow bar with a lot of success, however I seam to like my hands more vertical, like in the drops. I am in love with the look of the Albatross bars. They just seem to be the perfect shape. Not being able to brake from the front of the bar, my go to when climbing,leaves my hands with out much to brace against at high speeds on rough trails. Not a deal breaker but it makes me question them every time. Having my hands shaken from the bars is less than inspiring. Porter bars seem to have all the same issues, good and bad. The mustache bar , I really want to like them, never seems right to me, maybe because of the palms down position while on the brakes. Same is true for me with flat bars. Normalish drops always seem an odd angle for my shoulders, leaving me feel not as in control on rough trails at speed. Currently riding the On One Midge dirt drop bar. Almost always in the drop position. Supreme control, for me, on even the roughest and fastest of any trail. One finger braking and a general oneness with the bike no matter what. On the road they seem a little wide, however I am stronger climbing hills with these bars then anything else I have tried. They truly make my bike better for me in all situations. Hope this is of some use for you.Casey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition
I would certainly be predisposed to purchase a shirt that said Entmoot I mean, this one if finally wearing out a bit... https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8637421717/in/photostream - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Latest in Fenders!
Like someone said on another board, charge enough and you can get cyclists to buy just about anything... Check out this fender for $80! http://mikesbikes.com/m/product/bikesmart-tangent-sl-8900.htm Better yet, watch the video of how it worksmake sure you look for the droplets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=DcwE967IOGo I expect Riv to stock these next weekGood Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
Both. Riding this bike is faster than walking (except when I'm pushing it, which has already happened on both of my rides) and also I can go places I can't go on my other bikes. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 10:12 AM, redsydude thaus...@q.com wrote: This will probably get deleted because I don't know how to make it not sound snotty but it is a sincere question. Is the point to get to places on a bike that would be easier to get to by just backpacking or is the bike still helping you go farther/faster? On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: It's a Surly Krampus built up by Cycle Monkey, the US service partner for Rohloff. Belt drives are a natural partner to internal gear hubs, so Cycle Monkey builds up a lot of Rohloff + belt drive bikes. They sent the frame to their chop shop to have the frame split for the belt and to have a few other mods. They do a lot of frame modifications. When they sent my frame to the chop shop, they also sent seven other Surly frames: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=664808040227860set=pb.304605066248161.-220752.1396021612.type=3theater I asked Neil at Cycle Monkey how soon I needed to replace the belt. Maybe 15 thousand miles, he said. The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) I debated on whether to pick the ECR or the Krampus. The ECR is more of a touring style bike, with a lower bottom bracket and more stable handling, and the Krampus is more of a trail bike, although both of them are well suited to rough technical terrain. I ended up deciding that if I needed a bike to tour on smooth gravel roads, I already have one, in fact I already have two, my two Atlantises. So this bike is for tours that include somewhat rougher terrain. Yesterday I took the bike up a canyon that I've ridden before on my Atlantis. I felt comfortable riding several obstacles I wouldn't do on my Atlantis: a creek crossing, a sharp dip. I was glad of the higher bottom bracket on a single track I hadn't ridden before, where I had a couple of pedal strikes even with the higher bracket. And I was able to descend back down the canyon in confidence; on the Atlantis I would always go back home from that ride on the road. Midnight, Prince of Darkness has traction to burn, and the disk brakes provide strong stopping power, so I felt in control on the descents. Other Riv riders are better bike handlers than I am, and would have tackled these obstacles on their Rivendells. But for me, the Krampus is a good choice for more technical terrain. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Based on ground clearance, I'm guessing Krampus and completely prepared to be wrong. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:48:07 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Nice bike! ECR? or Krampus? or ?? Did you have to get an aftermarket split for the belt drive? Happy riding! Shoji On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:30:49 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: It's not a Rivendell, but it has some Rivvy features. Meet Midnight, Prince of Darkness: https://plus.google.com/photos/+JohnLamping/albums/5995658591943182593?authkey=CKDxg7ehtuv6QQ I got it yesterday, took it out for a longer ride today. Fantastic. I quickly got used to the instant Rohloff shifting. Rohloff + belt drive means not much maintenance, which is good for someone with my slipshod habits. It's not obvious in the picture, but those tires are not just wide, but HUGE. I rode my Atlantis over to get the car to drive up to Cycle Monkey to get Midnight. So then I had two bikes to put in the car, and I happened to put the Atlantis wheel next to Midnight's wheel. The Atlantis' tire is not tiny; I have Schwalbe 1.9's on the bike. Midnight's wheel was six inches taller. Huge. Now I can do dirt tours and not get nervous on narrow bumpy trails. I have a USB port in the stem. Because I am a nerd. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to
Re: [RBW] FS/WTT - Chris King, 10 Speed STI, WI Eno, Nitto, Tires
Ok I get it... price drops, I'm open to offers regardless, don't be shy! Available for Sale/Trade (trade preferred, offers welcome, shipping not included in prices below): PICTURES HEREhttp://tonydphoto.smugmug.com/Personal/Tonys-Bike-Stuff-for-Sale/i-Kg9N2LW -$225 Shimano 105 10 speed group; 2x10 STI shifters (5600 series), front and rear derailleur, 10 speed chain, tiagra 12-30t cassette -$110 Chris King Classic Front Wheel, 32 hole, 26 Rim, rim brake (silver, the hub weighs in at 112grams... if you're into that sort of thing, I'm happy to cut this out of its rim to keep shipping down if you are going to do the same anyway, same price) -$125 WI ENO eccentric wheel, 32 hole, 26 Rim, rim brake (black) -$65 WI 17T FW -$10 Surly 20T Fixed Cog (free with wheel purchase!) -$90 Nitto Noodle 44cm Cockpit, including: Shimano aero Levers and Tektro cross levers (will part out if requested) -$40 Nitto 7cm Stem -$10 each (3 avail) Col de la vie tires, used but plenty of life (650Bx32) -$55 pair Nifty Swifty Rainbows (650Bx33mm, nearly new) - For full price I'll include the Riv Reader where Grant announces he got a patent for the colored sidewalls! :) -$25 pair Nifty Swifty Rainbows (650Bx33mm, ~3,500 miles, rear one shows pretty smooth center but definitely rideable) -$12 one GEAX AKA 26x2.2, lots of small knobs, neat looking, plenty of life left, looks almost new -$35 pair Continental Gravity 26x2.3, looks like a decent aggressive knobby, plenty of life left -$160 Supernova E3 Pro 2 Dyno Headlight and E3 TL2 Rack Mount Dyno Taillight (both black) Things I don't have up for sale (so don't ask) but am interested in as trade targets; -Brooks flyer -Brooks b17 -WI crank - 170 or 175cm -Paul or Bruce Gordon canti brakes -Paul brake levers -silver bar end shifters -thin gripster pedals -WI pedals -Nitto Albatross bars -Nitto Bosco bars -Retroshift levers/shifters -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
On 03/28/2014 01:12 PM, redsydude wrote: This will probably get deleted because I don’t know how to make it not sound snotty but it is a sincere question.Is the point to get to places on a bike that would be easier to get to by just backpacking or is the bike still helping you go farther/faster? Why would anyone consider backpacking when you could ride a bike instead? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Latest in Fenders!
cool idea, great for skunk stripe, but there's more to fenders than skunk stripe. On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:49:15 AM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: Like someone said on another board, charge enough and you can get cyclists to buy just about anything... Check out this fender for $80! http://mikesbikes.com/m/product/bikesmart-tangent-sl-8900.htm Better yet, watch the video of how it worksmake sure you look for the droplets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=DcwE967IOGo I expect Riv to stock these next weekGood Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
Hardly an unracer approach but it does address the difference in speed between on bike and on foot, is the current speed records for a long, technical trail. I looked up the Colorado Trail: Bike (unsupported?): 3d:23h:38m Hike (unsupported): 10d19h5m I can't imagine trying to enjoy such a trail at those speeds, but then that's not what racing is all about. My daughter and I took 5 days on the Colorado Trail last year, and covered 25 miles, with a fire bit of LCG (lowest common gear, aka hike-a-bike). We had a fantastic time. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:12:53 AM UTC-6, redsydude wrote: This will probably get deleted because I don’t know how to make it not sound snotty but it is a sincere question. Is the point to get to places on a bike that would be easier to get to by just backpacking or is the bike still helping you go farther/faster? On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: It's a Surly Krampus built up by Cycle Monkey, the US service partner for Rohloff. Belt drives are a natural partner to internal gear hubs, so Cycle Monkey builds up a lot of Rohloff + belt drive bikes. They sent the frame to their chop shop to have the frame split for the belt and to have a few other mods. They do a lot of frame modifications. When they sent my frame to the chop shop, they also sent seven other Surly frames: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=664808040227860set=pb.304605066248161.-220752.1396021612.type=3theater I asked Neil at Cycle Monkey how soon I needed to replace the belt. Maybe 15 thousand miles, he said. The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) I debated on whether to pick the ECR or the Krampus. The ECR is more of a touring style bike, with a lower bottom bracket and more stable handling, and the Krampus is more of a trail bike, although both of them are well suited to rough technical terrain. I ended up deciding that if I needed a bike to tour on smooth gravel roads, I already have one, in fact I already have two, my two Atlantises. So this bike is for tours that include somewhat rougher terrain. Yesterday I took the bike up a canyon that I've ridden before on my Atlantis. I felt comfortable riding several obstacles I wouldn't do on my Atlantis: a creek crossing, a sharp dip. I was glad of the higher bottom bracket on a single track I hadn't ridden before, where I had a couple of pedal strikes even with the higher bracket. And I was able to descend back down the canyon in confidence; on the Atlantis I would always go back home from that ride on the road. Midnight, Prince of Darkness has traction to burn, and the disk brakes provide strong stopping power, so I felt in control on the descents. Other Riv riders are better bike handlers than I am, and would have tackled these obstacles on their Rivendells. But for me, the Krampus is a good choice for more technical terrain. On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Based on ground clearance, I'm guessing Krampus and completely prepared to be wrong. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:48:07 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Nice bike! ECR? or Krampus? or ?? Did you have to get an aftermarket split for the belt drive? Happy riding! Shoji On Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:30:49 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: It's not a Rivendell, but it has some Rivvy features. Meet Midnight, Prince of Darkness: https://plus.google.com/photos/+JohnLamping/albums/5995658591943182593?authkey=CKDxg7ehtuv6QQ I got it yesterday, took it out for a longer ride today. Fantastic. I quickly got used to the instant Rohloff shifting. Rohloff + belt drive means not much maintenance, which is good for someone with my slipshod habits. It's not obvious in the picture, but those tires are not just wide, but HUGE. I rode my Atlantis over to get the car to drive up to Cycle Monkey to get Midnight. So then I had two bikes to put in the car, and I happened to put the Atlantis wheel next to Midnight's wheel. The Atlantis' tire is not tiny; I have Schwalbe 1.9's on the bike. Midnight's wheel was six inches taller. Huge. Now I can do dirt tours and not get nervous on narrow bumpy trails. I have a USB port in the stem. Because I am a nerd. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email
Re: [RBW] FS/WTT - Chris King, 10 Speed STI, WI Eno, Nitto, Tires
Tony, I have a flyer in great shape, and I would be interested in the supernova combo. I realize the value don't match, but maybe we could work something out. I'm in San Francisco. Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
I can't imagine even a Moonlander floating in deep snow or sand... It's kinda like snowshoes... Although I have huge 36 snowshoes even in a deep (light) powder I sink way in... but on slightly packed they're great. So even the fattest tires aren't immune to deep loose sand or snow. You need some degree of firmness in the snow. I especially like the Krampus because I think it offers a nice balance, with wheels that have both big diameter AND width. And given the right firm snow conditions the Krampus would be awesome. Nice splitter on the seat tube, Anne. Did Curtis Inglis do your bike? Interesting place to put the splitter (makes sense to me). I've see the splits occur at the dropout, typically held together with some kind of plate (with screws), but this is pretty unique. Curtis has mad skills. BB On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:06:07 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote: I already have a 29er that fits 2.35 tires, I want a bike to ride on the sand. I live 1/2 mile from the beach and a few hours drive from Anza Borrego. So I'm most likely going to get the fatbike. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Tent and Sleeping Bags
I have two sleeping bags and a tent for sale that would be good for bicycle camping. The sleeping bags are EMS hooded mummy bags rated to 40 degrees with fiberfill insulation, they zip together and are extra long. Stuff sacks are in good shape with a plush liner so they can be turned inside out and used as a pillow. The weather flaps are delaminating. Maybe 10 years old but used lightly and in great shape. Sleeping bags were stored in a large laundry bad which is also included. Weight of one bag with stuff sack is 2.5 lbs. The tent is an LL Bean tad pole tent. Cozy two person tent with one front door and rain fly. Sets up with 3 poles. Small triangle vent screen in the rear and the front has a full sized screen. No nylon foot print but a heavy duty plastic ground cloth is included. No signs of delamination on tent floor or fly. Total weight of tent, fly, poles, stakes and ground sheet is 6lbs 4ozs. Maybe 10 years old but used lightly and in great shape. These sleeping bags with this tent were comfortable for us down to 40 degrees and useable to 35 degrees. I would like to sell all together for $100 plus actual shipping. Will sell the pair of sleeping bags for $70 plus shipping and the tent for $45 plus shipping if no one wants them all. Located in central Connecticut for those that want to pick up. I will have photos shortly. Contact me off line if interested. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Tent and Sleeping Bags
What a great set up for someone wanting to try out S24Os or longer bikepacking! With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:10:57 AM UTC-6, Larry Powers wrote: I have two sleeping bags and a tent for sale that would be good for bicycle camping. The sleeping bags are EMS hooded mummy bags rated to 40 degrees with fiberfill insulation, they zip together and are extra long. Stuff sacks are in good shape with a plush liner so they can be turned inside out and used as a pillow. The weather flaps are delaminating. Maybe 10 years old but used lightly and in great shape. Sleeping bags were stored in a large laundry bad which is also included. Weight of one bag with stuff sack is 2.5 lbs. The tent is an LL Bean tad pole tent. Cozy two person tent with one front door and rain fly. Sets up with 3 poles. Small triangle vent screen in the rear and the front has a full sized screen. No nylon foot print but a heavy duty plastic ground cloth is included. No signs of delamination on tent floor or fly. Total weight of tent, fly, poles, stakes and ground sheet is 6lbs 4ozs. Maybe 10 years old but used lightly and in great shape. These sleeping bags with this tent were comfortable for us down to 40 degrees and useable to 35 degrees. I would like to sell all together for $100 plus actual shipping. Will sell the pair of sleeping bags for $70 plus shipping and the tent for $45 plus shipping if no one wants them all. Located in central Connecticut for those that want to pick up. I will have photos shortly. Contact me off line if interested. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Latest in Fenders!
If I am reading correctly you only get the arm for 80,then you have to attach your own fender. On Mar 29, 2014 12:13 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: cool idea, great for skunk stripe, but there's more to fenders than skunk stripe. On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:49:15 AM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: Like someone said on another board, charge enough and you can get cyclists to buy just about anything... Check out this fender for $80! http://mikesbikes.com/m/product/bikesmart-tangent-sl-8900.htm Better yet, watch the video of how it worksmake sure you look for the droplets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=DcwE967IOGo I expect Riv to stock these next weekGood Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Beauty Shots of the Custom are up!
Wow, what a stunning bike!!! That'll bring traffic to a dead halt. Congratulations Liesl, and congrats to Riv on creating such a special one-of-a-kind beauty. BB On Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:19:45 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: Beautiful. It probably can't cure a lung infection, but I'll bet it cures the blues. I'd love to see it the next time I am in Ca. Michael still in a very cold and snowy VT. On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:36:53 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: Hi friends, If you haven't seen it already, here they are: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/80720787036/heres-the-story-of-our-latest-custom-bike-for The bike is a treasure. So sure and confident and comfy and beautiful. It will go anywhere and everywhere. For a very long time. I went out on the Saturday Gentlewoman's ride with the local Rivsters. I can't really give a full report, though, because I was too sick with an upper respiratory thang to venture out in the hills with the rest of the gang (thank you Cora for sitting in the shade with me). Any time you borrow a saddlebag to tote Dayquill and a box of Kleenex is just not a good sign. Anyway, the little riding we did on Saturday lets me know that it is a joy to ride and fits like a broken-in pair of wonderful handmade shoes. I managed to get in the shortest of descents on a grassy Riv-style hill and I was in awe of its stability. Like a mountain goat. The paint has to be seen to be believed. JB added pearl to the paint that you can't see until it's in brilliant sun. And then it flickers and dazzles with the most subtle blues and yellows and whites...like you just found a treasure on the beach. Some details: The Select Flyer wasn't just a test saddle; it's the saddle. Paul seatpost, thumbies, and brakes; SON hub, White Industries MI5 rear hub, brown big bens, phil BB, shimano xt derailer. Will add cedar fenders and a nitto mini front rack. And how wonderful to say to my fellow low PBH friends like Manny: Take it for a ride! (Rich Lee, you're next in line!) Once it's set up here in Minneapolis, there'll be more photos and ride reports. Thank you everyone for your knowledge, skill, artistry, support and input. And especially Grant, Mark, Mark, Rich, JB, and Keven. grinning from ear-to-ear, Riv Chica Warrior -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
Still, 700C tires fatter than 50 mm and run at sub 30 psi, especially if the tires push wider than 60 and lower than 20, really are better in sand up to 3 than the typical 26 mtb tire of not quite 2 and run at 50 psi as so many of them seem to be. I've read that in real snow -- newly fallen, 6 stuff -- even the fat bikes can't make it through. On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS/WTT - Chris King, 10 Speed STI, WI Eno, Nitto, Tires
Michael, Thanks for the note, there are a couple people in front of you interested in a straight purchase but a Flyer is exactly what I'm looking for. What is the color of the flyer and what cash or other trade items would you put in with it to even out the transaction? Thanks, Tony On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:37 PM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote: Tony, I have a flyer in great shape, and I would be interested in the supernova combo. I realize the value don't match, but maybe we could work something out. I'm in San Francisco. Michael Allen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KaNreghKAVk/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Latest in Fenders!
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:07:04 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: If I am reading correctly you only get the arm for 80,then you have to attach your own fender. The ad states: *The carbon fiber strut and ABS plastic fender blade* make for a total fender weight of just 75 grams with hardware. Fenders are sold individually. (emphasis added). For $80 you get one carbon fiber strut AND ABS plastic fender blade with hardware. Each fender is sold separately! Hey, the total weight is only 75gs, so you know that's the biggest selling point! Good Luck! On Mar 29, 2014 12:13 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: cool idea, great for skunk stripe, but there's more to fenders than skunk stripe. On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:49:15 AM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: Like someone said on another board, charge enough and you can get cyclists to buy just about anything... Check out this fender for $80! http://mikesbikes.com/m/product/bikesmart-tangent-sl-8900.htm Better yet, watch the video of how it worksmake sure you look for the droplets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=DcwE967IOGo I expect Riv to stock these next weekGood Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv on tires. LOL!
I have more than one bike so I can have more than one philosophy represented. Compass on the Gofast bikes and Rivendell on the Just Ride bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Fenders Are Fun
Video from today's rainy ride: http://youtu.be/z3TC4H2BYdk --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] An Atlantis is Born
OK, preaching to the choir here but I thought I'd share my experience and thoughts on my new Atlantis. I posted here at Christmas time about my custom tourer that was stolen and I replaced her with an Atlantis. Everyone at Riv was amazing, all working hard to make sure I could get my new bike in time for a tour at the beginning of April. I don't have a lot of miles on her yet, but I have been amazed so far at the fit, the ride, the whole package. She was only born a week ago, but in that short time has been ridden unloaded around town, loaded on the trail, and commuting to work. All great experiences. And talk about experiences. I went to RBW HQ to pick her up as I have family in the area. The care that Brian put into installing accessories that weren't even purchased from Riv was above and beyond. Mark plied me with so many espressos I could have ridden a century that afternoon. And I was there as the custom was being built up and got to see it and meet Liesl. Yes, the people on this list are real! Both her bike and mine are beautiful in their own ways. The paint on the custom has to be seen to be appreciated -- it is really stunning. From Walnut Creek, it was back to Portland on Amtrak and then after only a few short days with my new bike, I delivered her to Amtrak again for the trip to Florida, where she will get to fulfill her true destiny as a loaded tourer. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Riv on tires. LOL!
I have one bike with GB Cypres tires on it, and another with the unreinforced JBs on it. They seem quite similar to me, though the JBs do look much bigger than the Cypres. I think the different appearance must be due to rim width and 700c/650b differences, because they measure out to nearly identical width. The ride seems much the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS/Cream Grand Bois 650Bx42 tires
I'm selling these for a customer who bought them for a wheelset that's been changed to 700c. Brand new, in the package. Set only. $118 plus shipping if you're not local SF Bay Area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
I don't know if Curtis Inglis did my bike. I got it from Cycle Monkey, and they sent it, with seven other bikes, to whoever does the work for them. Mike Schiller said he saw a group of bikes at Curtis Inglis' shop being modified. I'm guessing that was the batch from Cycle Monkey. By the way, if you are looking for a bike with Rohloff + belt, or to have your bike modified to fit a Rohloff, I recommend Cycle Monkey. Not only am I delighted with my bike, but during the process, when I asked questions, they would explain things to me so I could understand the factors involved in my decisions. I hate it when people don't explain things. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: I can't imagine even a Moonlander floating in deep snow or sand... It's kinda like snowshoes... Although I have huge 36 snowshoes even in a deep (light) powder I sink way in... but on slightly packed they're great. So even the fattest tires aren't immune to deep loose sand or snow. You need some degree of firmness in the snow. I especially like the Krampus because I think it offers a nice balance, with wheels that have both big diameter AND width. And given the right firm snow conditions the Krampus would be awesome. Nice splitter on the seat tube, Anne. Did Curtis Inglis do your bike? Interesting place to put the splitter (makes sense to me). I've see the splits occur at the dropout, typically held together with some kind of plate (with screws), but this is pretty unique. Curtis has mad skills. BB On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:06:07 PM UTC-4, Mike Schiller wrote: I already have a 29er that fits 2.35 tires, I want a bike to ride on the sand. I live 1/2 mile from the beach and a few hours drive from Anza Borrego. So I'm most likely going to get the fatbike. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] An Atlantis is Born
Congratulations, Joyce. I know you'll find that your Atlantis is flawless as a tourer. What tires are you running, and where are you going on your new bike? On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Linkbeak linkb...@gmail.com wrote: OK, preaching to the choir here but I thought I'd share my experience and thoughts on my new Atlantis. I posted here at Christmas time about my custom tourer that was stolen and I replaced her with an Atlantis. Everyone at Riv was amazing, all working hard to make sure I could get my new bike in time for a tour at the beginning of April. I don't have a lot of miles on her yet, but I have been amazed so far at the fit, the ride, the whole package. She was only born a week ago, but in that short time has been ridden unloaded around town, loaded on the trail, and commuting to work. All great experiences. And talk about experiences. I went to RBW HQ to pick her up as I have family in the area. The care that Brian put into installing accessories that weren't even purchased from Riv was above and beyond. Mark plied me with so many espressos I could have ridden a century that afternoon. And I was there as the custom was being built up and got to see it and meet Liesl. Yes, the people on this list are real! Both her bike and mine are beautiful in their own ways. The paint on the custom has to be seen to be appreciated -- it is really stunning. From Walnut Creek, it was back to Portland on Amtrak and then after only a few short days with my new bike, I delivered her to Amtrak again for the trip to Florida, where she will get to fulfill her true destiny as a loaded tourer. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Single-Chainring Drivetrains
Patrick asked me to elaborate on what I liked about a 42t-28t double set up. Sorry it took so long to respond. This thread is about a single chain ring setup and I haven't been able to mentally come up with a mathematical combination of a single chain ring and 8spd cassette that would really cover the range I want and put the cruising gears in a nice location. If I did go single I would give up the high end, or I would leave a granny in place, remove the FD and shift with a stick if desperate. Previous to finding the BBG- 42-28 double setup, my preferred gearing was a triple with a 48-38-26 in front and and a 12-28 or 13-30, 7s or 8s in back. Like Patrick I found I rarely used the outer ring. My preferred cruising gear is around 64 so by moving up to a 42t in front and an 11-32t in the back my chain line was mostly centered for my cruising gears. My highest gear was ~100 (plenty for me) and for riding around these parts I rarely have to shift into the granny, so its like the simplicity of a single up front, but I still have the granny available if I go somewhere where there is an actually hill. I'm not used to actual hills so the granny becomes necessary if I ever leave town. I also really like having the guard as the outer ring. I've ripped up and stained many a pair of pants and ripped a few shoe laces out on those outer teeth. PS: I tried a 46-32 and 12-28 combo for awhile and I hated it. That particular combo found me constantly shifting in the front and cross chaining to find my preferred cruising gears. Somebody who was a stronger cyclist or weaker cyclist or lived in rolling terrain might love it though. I think fitness and terrain play a big role in optimal gearing, so if you want to go non-stock this can be a real personal choice. It amazes me that bike shops sell the same gears to people who live in Illinois and Colorado. I grew up in Illinois where I didn't need a granny and only shifted to the big ring if I got a great tailwind. David Johnston On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:12:12 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Dave. Would you mind elaborating on what you love about the wide range double? I realize we ride different surfaces and terrain, but I am trying to understand the experiential difference. Can I use all the gears in each? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Sloping Top Tubes
Thought this topic that's being bantered around on the Chicago-based ChainLink blog about sloping top tubes: http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/slopey-top-tubes Some of the responses are right on the mark, others are way off. Interesting to see the variance of opinions. If I belonged to this forum I'd be tempted to dig up that photo of old safety bikes from way back that Grant posted a while back, all of which had very sloping top tubes, and show it to 'em. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Nitto mustache bars and M12 front rack
Nitto mustache bars- $50 shipped Nitto M12 front rack- $50 shipped Both in fine used condition. So what's that mean? The bars will come with tape residue and are likely to have some scuffs where brake levers were attached. The Nitto sticker has mostly worn off the rack. If you want pristine, buy new, if you want function, buy these. -Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Also WTB: NOS/VG 559X1.25 Paselas, NON TOUR GUARD MODEL. (Was: WTB: Hutchinson Top Slick 26: X 1.2 tires)
I thought that they'd never stop making the non-Tourguard version, but I see that they have. Again, 559X1.25/32 mm, not 700C. Thanks, reply off list, etc. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The original model, NOS or used in good condition. I just discovered these to find they are no longer made (I don't want the V 2 that is being sold today). Please reply off list. Thanks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad
After the second ride, 32 miles out to North Bridgehttp://www.bikeforums.net/northeast/518426-metro-boston-good-ride-today-131.html#post16623502in Concord, Massachusetts, the Barlow Pass Extralights measured a hair of 37mm. I'm finding them very likable, and got enough practice with them on this ride to add good climbing to their list of virtues. rod On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:48:45 AM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote: Took my first ride on the 700cx38mm Barlow Pass Extra Light tires today, a little 14-mile shakedown. They remind me, a lot, of the GB Cypres EL tires I ran last year, especially the way they roll fast and beg for acceleration. But the extra air volume is noticeable, and I was able to run them at somewhat lower pressure. Happy! At the end of this first ride, the tires measured 36.27 mm. rod On Saturday, March 22, 2014 5:54:13 PM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote: Just mounted mine: 35.4mm on Alex Adventurer rims, measured in their virginal state. Will measure again after a few hundred miles. I got the blackwalls, like their looks. rod On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:01:06 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change. I'm gonna go out for a ride. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto mustache bars and M12 front rack
Nitto rack is sold, but the bars remain. FYI- the bars are 26.0, so roadie levers and barends are made for this bar (or maybe the other way around.) These bars sold for $88.00 from Riv and are now discontinued. I have a Nitto Dirt Drop stem available as well. $100 ships the bars and stem to your door. On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:46:34 PM UTC-7, SJB wrote: Nitto mustache bars- $50 shipped Nitto M12 front rack- $50 shipped Both in fine used condition. So what's that mean? The bars will come with tape residue and are likely to have some scuffs where brake levers were attached. The Nitto sticker has mostly worn off the rack. If you want pristine, buy new, if you want function, buy these. -Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
I can make it through 6 of fresh powder on my Hunqapillar with my 2.25 smart sams. It's when it's deeper that it's challenging. It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. I've been in snowshoes in fresh powder up to my navel trying to go uphill. That didn't work so well. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:32:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Still, 700C tires fatter than 50 mm and run at sub 30 psi, especially if the tires push wider than 60 and lower than 20, really are better in sand up to 3 than the typical 26 mtb tire of not quite 2 and run at 50 psi as so many of them seem to be. I've read that in real snow -- newly fallen, 6 stuff -- even the fat bikes can't make it through. On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: An Atlantis is Born
Joyce! Most excellent to see your post! Glad to hear your Atlantis is working out so well, and hoping we cross paths again! -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: An Atlantis is Born
Fantastic! Keep us posted if you are able on how your tour progresses and your new companion and you get along. Ride with abandon! With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:07:13 PM UTC-6, Linkbeak wrote: OK, preaching to the choir here but I thought I'd share my experience and thoughts on my new Atlantis. I posted here at Christmas time about my custom tourer that was stolen and I replaced her with an Atlantis. Everyone at Riv was amazing, all working hard to make sure I could get my new bike in time for a tour at the beginning of April. I don't have a lot of miles on her yet, but I have been amazed so far at the fit, the ride, the whole package. She was only born a week ago, but in that short time has been ridden unloaded around town, loaded on the trail, and commuting to work. All great experiences. And talk about experiences. I went to RBW HQ to pick her up as I have family in the area. The care that Brian put into installing accessories that weren't even purchased from Riv was above and beyond. Mark plied me with so many espressos I could have ridden a century that afternoon. And I was there as the custom was being built up and got to see it and meet Liesl. Yes, the people on this list are real! Both her bike and mine are beautiful in their own ways. The paint on the custom has to be seen to be appreciated -- it is really stunning. From Walnut Creek, it was back to Portland on Amtrak and then after only a few short days with my new bike, I delivered her to Amtrak again for the trip to Florida, where she will get to fulfill her true destiny as a loaded tourer. Joyce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Single-Chainring Drivetrains
Thanks Dave! With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:53:17 PM UTC-6, Dave Johnston wrote: Patrick asked me to elaborate on what I liked about a 42t-28t double set up. Sorry it took so long to respond. This thread is about a single chain ring setup and I haven't been able to mentally come up with a mathematical combination of a single chain ring and 8spd cassette that would really cover the range I want and put the cruising gears in a nice location. If I did go single I would give up the high end, or I would leave a granny in place, remove the FD and shift with a stick if desperate. Previous to finding the BBG- 42-28 double setup, my preferred gearing was a triple with a 48-38-26 in front and and a 12-28 or 13-30, 7s or 8s in back. Like Patrick I found I rarely used the outer ring. My preferred cruising gear is around 64 so by moving up to a 42t in front and an 11-32t in the back my chain line was mostly centered for my cruising gears. My highest gear was ~100 (plenty for me) and for riding around these parts I rarely have to shift into the granny, so its like the simplicity of a single up front, but I still have the granny available if I go somewhere where there is an actually hill. I'm not used to actual hills so the granny becomes necessary if I ever leave town. I also really like having the guard as the outer ring. I've ripped up and stained many a pair of pants and ripped a few shoe laces out on those outer teeth. PS: I tried a 46-32 and 12-28 combo for awhile and I hated it. That particular combo found me constantly shifting in the front and cross chaining to find my preferred cruising gears. Somebody who was a stronger cyclist or weaker cyclist or lived in rolling terrain might love it though. I think fitness and terrain play a big role in optimal gearing, so if you want to go non-stock this can be a real personal choice. It amazes me that bike shops sell the same gears to people who live in Illinois and Colorado. I grew up in Illinois where I didn't need a granny and only shifted to the big ring if I got a great tailwind. David Johnston On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:12:12 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Dave. Would you mind elaborating on what you love about the wide range double? I realize we ride different surfaces and terrain, but I am trying to understand the experiential difference. Can I use all the gears in each? With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
Deacon says: It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. I suspect the fatbike is way better than a Hunq with 2.25 tires on icy, crusty snow such as might be found after refreezing. One thing I can say about my Krampus is the traction is amazing, and a fatbike is going to have even better traction. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I can make it through 6 of fresh powder on my Hunqapillar with my 2.25 smart sams. It's when it's deeper that it's challenging. It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. I've been in snowshoes in fresh powder up to my navel trying to go uphill. That didn't work so well. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:32:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Still, 700C tires fatter than 50 mm and run at sub 30 psi, especially if the tires push wider than 60 and lower than 20, really are better in sand up to 3 than the typical 26 mtb tire of not quite 2 and run at 50 psi as so many of them seem to be. I've read that in real snow -- newly fallen, 6 stuff -- even the fat bikes can't make it through. On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
Sure, right until you enter trees and foomph! you're up to your hairline in snow on your tiptoes trying to see above the snow. Grin. There is a saying we have for 4x4's here in Colorado. The reason you have them is so you get stuck further from help. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 5:17:38 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: Deacon says: It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. I suspect the fatbike is way better than a Hunq with 2.25 tires on icy, crusty snow such as might be found after refreezing. One thing I can say about my Krampus is the traction is amazing, and a fatbike is going to have even better traction. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: I can make it through 6 of fresh powder on my Hunqapillar with my 2.25 smart sams. It's when it's deeper that it's challenging. It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. I've been in snowshoes in fresh powder up to my navel trying to go uphill. That didn't work so well. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:32:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Still, 700C tires fatter than 50 mm and run at sub 30 psi, especially if the tires push wider than 60 and lower than 20, really are better in sand up to 3 than the typical 26 mtb tire of not quite 2 and run at 50 psi as so many of them seem to be. I've read that in real snow -- newly fallen, 6 stuff -- even the fat bikes can't make it through. On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Single-Chainring Drivetrains
When I lived in south east Mi. a long time ago, I had a bike with 44-52 chain rings and a 14-18 straight block. It was great. These days, living in the SF east Bay Area, I'm really pleased with 30-46 rings and a 9sp 11-32 cassette. I am convinced that the right gear setup is entirely dependent on the rider, type of riding, and terrain. The only thing I think approaches being universally right about gearing is the notion that having your typical cruising gear near the middle of the cassette is a good idea. Well that and whatever ideal is for you, lots of variations from it can still be perfectly serviceable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad
Chris, I am not sure how much these have plumped up for you since install, hopefully a bit more. One thing I have done out of habit is inflate them up to about 100PSI or so and let it sit over night. This works 90% or more of the stretch in and also seats the rim tape nicely on fresh builds. We ran into similar feedback on the C-Lines and as with Jan's mentioned black art to the making process, there is even a mm or so of variation throughout the tire run. So if a wide set ends up on some A23 rims they met be the full 38mm while a narrow set on open pro rims may measure 35-36mm Rob On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:01:06 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change. I'm gonna go out for a ride. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Rack Mounting Question
I have an Atlantis with Suntour XC Pro cantilever brakes and I have a Nitto M-12 rack. I would like to mount the rack using Nitto front rack canti studs. I have two questions. Is it possible to mount this rack to these brakes with the canti studs? If not, is it possible to mount the rack at all to these brakes? Also the best run for the brake cable is exactly at the height of the mounting hole in the fork crown. I am not sure how well the brakes will function with the longer straddle cable. While I enjoyed building this bike up with as much Suntour XC Pro as I could, these brakes are probably my least favorite components. I would be open to replacing them. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fenders Are Fun
I rode in the rain 2 weeks ago, and I totally agree, fenders are fun. On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:53:52 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Video from today's rainy ride: http://youtu.be/z3TC4H2BYdk --Eric campyo...@me.com javascript: www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sloping Top Tubes
From a purely aesthetic perspective I would want to balance out the amount of Stem extension, Seat-post extension, Headtube length and wheel proportion, all the while trying to get a bike that fits and rides well. While I like the look of an 80's square dimensioned bike I would (and have) had to use a Tallux or a Dirt Drop to get the bars even with the saddle where I want them. I would also need a short stem extension to go along with the largest frame I could straddle with not much seatpost showing. So overall I prefer about a 2-3° slope, with a lug extension like Rivendell does. This gives a bit more than a fist full of post, a bit extra standover and a stem that goes up about as much as it goes out. I'm also OK with the looks of slopes up to about 6°, after that it starts to look mountain bikey, which still looks good if you run 2+ knobbies. With the fat tires I prefer I also think 650b looks best on a Med frame, with the added bonus of ridding great. -Dave J On Saturday, March 29, 2014 5:22:08 PM UTC-4, George Schick wrote: Thought this topic that's being bantered around on the Chicago-based ChainLink blog about sloping top tubes: http://www.thechainlink.org/forum/topics/slopey-top-tubes Some of the responses are right on the mark, others are way off. Interesting to see the variance of opinions. If I belonged to this forum I'd be tempted to dig up that photo of old safety bikes from way back that Grant posted a while back, all of which had very sloping top tubes, and show it to 'em. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question
M12 is made to mount on canti or v-brake studs. You have to replace the existing stud with this part: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh2.htm On Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:53:48 PM UTC-5, Larry Powers wrote: I have an Atlantis with Suntour XC Pro cantilever brakes and I have a Nitto M-12 rack. I would like to mount the rack using Nitto front rack canti studs. I have two questions. Is it possible to mount this rack to these brakes with the canti studs? If not, is it possible to mount the rack at all to these brakes? Also the best run for the brake cable is exactly at the height of the mounting hole in the fork crown. I am not sure how well the brakes will function with the longer straddle cable. While I enjoyed building this bike up with as much Suntour XC Pro as I could, these brakes are probably my least favorite components. I would be open to replacing them. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fenders Are Fun
Just in from the downpour. Feels like I've been riding in the rain for months! Not sure I'd call them fun but certainly glad I have them. https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/13498655765/lightbox/ On Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:55:25 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: I rode in the rain 2 weeks ago, and I totally agree, fenders are fun. On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:53:52 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Video from today's rainy ride: http://youtu.be/z3TC4H2BYdk --Eric campyo...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fenders Are Fun
Fenders are especially fun when it is not raining, but he road is really wet from a fresh rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fenders Are Fun
ours wasn't a downpour, it was a mist and 65 outside, but the roads were wet. On Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:40:05 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Fenders are especially fun when it is not raining, but he road is really wet from a fresh rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars
David (and anyone else who uses moustache or albastache bars for more technical single track (rocky, rooted, steep), Could you tell me more, comparing the two bars if possible? As you describe David, the albatross are great for roads, but they're not designed to have the brakes up front, where I want to be for descents. In particular, hand comfort in the curves, difference in feel of the width, and stem recommendations for the albastaches (I know the dirt drop stem makes sense for the moustache). Thanks! If it makes a difference, I'm fairly broad shouldered. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:01:47 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I'm quite the fan out Moustache bars. They're great off-road as they let you put your hands weight forward while giving you that good braking position. Mimics the position regular straight or riser MTB bars offer. While I enjoyed Albas off-road as well, my hands got a lot more tired having to hold the bars out on the sides where the brakes were. I've ended up keeping the Ms on my bike as they meet just about all my needs. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Patrick, Here's Olivier's overlay of the h-bars (also seen in the most recent Riv catalog): http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8915626620/ Standard bullmoose doesn't get you into a forward position with control. You can grab the forward-most point and tuck, but that's more for aerotucking.. not technical riding. Takashi has standard bullmoose with the knobs to lean onto-- seems like a good addition for longer rides. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8626592972/ Based on your description, I'd recommend the moustache/albastache. (I haven't tried albastache but do have and like the moustache. It's a forward for climbing and descending grip with brakes within reach. If you're cruising and want to sit up, do so by grabbing the ends.) best, shoji On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:55:09 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: What I am learning is that while I like an occasional upright/back hand grip, I prefer being forward, and wide for climbing and descending (and having access to the brakes from the hoods. I'm thinking the forward position on the Albatross is too narrow. So, my current list of questions is: Can you Bosco Bullmoose riders help me understand what the brake options and forward/wide grip options feel like? Standard Bullmoose riders: how are the bars for flatter stretches (which is when I like to sit back/upright)? They look ideal for the climbs/descents. Ideas for attachments to add a cruising position? Albastache riders: how wide are the hooks, especially in comparison to the Albatross hooks? Anyone have a link to the handlebar comparison photo from the catalog? Mine is elsewhere since my hobbit hole got reconstructed. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:30:10 AM UTC-6, Coconutbill wrote: like tires, each one has its application. the bosco bullmoose will be at home on your Hunq. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question
Larry: When I ran cantis on my Atlantis, I used the Tektro CR-720 with the straddle cable just a bit above the rack stud that goes thru the fork crown. Later I went to V-brakes and the rubber boot on the cable actually hangs up a bit on the stud but hasn't worn thru and the brakes work well. I have no experience with the brakes you're using so no comparison to either of the ones I've had. dougP On Saturday, March 29, 2014 4:53:48 PM UTC-7, Larry Powers wrote: I have an Atlantis with Suntour XC Pro cantilever brakes and I have a Nitto M-12 rack. I would like to mount the rack using Nitto front rack canti studs. I have two questions. Is it possible to mount this rack to these brakes with the canti studs? If not, is it possible to mount the rack at all to these brakes? Also the best run for the brake cable is exactly at the height of the mounting hole in the fork crown. I am not sure how well the brakes will function with the longer straddle cable. While I enjoyed building this bike up with as much Suntour XC Pro as I could, these brakes are probably my least favorite components. I would be open to replacing them. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
So true Patrick, but you don't have to get very far of the path to be in the thick of it. We've had more than 130 of snow this season and more in the woods. I built up a 9:ZERO:7 fatbike four years ago to supplement the Rivs and get me through our longest season. The bike certainly works best on consolidated snow and of course temperature, moisture content and snow type all make a difference. I find most frustrating those times when the consolidated trail is about as wide as a skier's stance. It's like riding on a plank and keeping a line with my modest skills is difficult at slow speeds. Drop off and I'm up to the hubs at least and if it's even on a mild climb I end up walking: there is just no way I can get restarted. A stronger rider might. I find traction and braking the main advantages. Not so much on icy hard conditions, for that the Hunq with studded tires is superior, but for everything else in the snow I like the 907. Front wheel traction when descending as well as reliable braking is just so much better. I find I can also ride over deeper well consolidated snow where I can't with the Hunq which just digs in. The 907 is also better over soft leaf litter and mud, who's own season is about to begin. Some pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157643129392314/ On Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:24:17 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Sure, right until you enter trees and foomph! you're up to your hairline in snow on your tiptoes trying to see above the snow. Grin. There is a saying we have for 4x4's here in Colorado. The reason you have them is so you get stuck further from help. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 5:17:38 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: Deacon says: It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. I suspect the fatbike is way better than a Hunq with 2.25 tires on icy, crusty snow such as might be found after refreezing. One thing I can say about my Krampus is the traction is amazing, and a fatbike is going to have even better traction. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: I can make it through 6 of fresh powder on my Hunqapillar with my 2.25 smart sams. It's when it's deeper that it's challenging. It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. I've been in snowshoes in fresh powder up to my navel trying to go uphill. That didn't work so well. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:32:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Still, 700C tires fatter than 50 mm and run at sub 30 psi, especially if the tires push wider than 60 and lower than 20, really are better in sand up to 3 than the typical 26 mtb tire of not quite 2 and run at 50 psi as so many of them seem to be. I've read that in real snow -- newly fallen, 6 stuff -- even the fat bikes can't make it through. On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It turns out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to visit Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question
I don't have a set in front of me at the moment, but my recollection is that the mounting bolt is recessed in the XC pro, and so the Nitto bolt adaptor does not work with these brakes. And that explains why I have an unused set in my parts box. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day
I just saw the picture of the bike. Fantastic. I love that color. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bosco Bullmoose Bars
I love flared off-road drops for exactly the reasons you mention. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question
I just used the regular brake bolt mounting an M12 to my Quickbeam. No experience with the Suntour brakes, though. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS/WTT Silver bar end shifters, XT FD as currently sold by Riv
Hello Rivvies, Silver Bar End Shifters (no cables/housing) - around 400 miles of use $50 plus shipping Late model Shimano XT triple front derailer- used less than 100 miles $40 plus shipping Also would trade for: Shimano or Suntour bar end shifters, 90's era Shimano triple FD or ? Please PM for inquiries. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS/WTT Silver bar end shifters, XT FD as currently sold by Riv
Need any of below for trade for silver shifters? Fatty Rumpkins in good shape 650b Marathon in good shape Noodle bar 6cm Technomic stem 26 clamp 7cm Technomic Stem 26 clamp Dia Compe Gran Compe brake levers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS/WTT Silver bar end shifters, XT FD as currently sold by Riv
Thanks for the inquiry. Unfortunately, nothing from your list sparks my interest. Except may be the Noodle bars. Width? On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Need any of below for trade for silver shifters? Fatty Rumpkins in good shape 650b Marathon in good shape Noodle bar 6cm Technomic stem 26 clamp 7cm Technomic Stem 26 clamp Dia Compe Gran Compe brake levers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/5bpEZKyP2cs/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rack Mounting Question
Greg is right. The Nitto double bolts do not work with Suntour XC canti's, I've tried. You will have to get something different. The IRD ones work well, much better than the Tektro models IMO. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
