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I don’t remember...sorry

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Re: [RBW] Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

BTW, the population of Mussoorie, per Wikipedia, is over 30,000. No village.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mussoorie

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:05 AM Addison Wilhite 
wrote:

>
> I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.
> FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both
> international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private
> school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year
> contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious:
> https://www.woodstockschool.in/
>
> This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems the
> place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really miss
> a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.  Side
> question: I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the himalayas
> written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody remember the
> book I may be remembering?
>
> Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match
> the location right? I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if
> my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.
>
> The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even
> take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times. The alarmist
> is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from
> the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best,
> and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to
> even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the
> opportunity of a lifetime. Woodstock school is mentioned in some
> international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a
> “unicorn school.” Tough to pass up.
>
> Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school
> district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a
> crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe,
> who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the
> safer move? It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of
> the job as well. For example, even though the pay is much less, the
> benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights
> for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a
> 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are substantially subsidized, our littlest
> child would get a nanny and both our kids would get free tuition at the
> same IB school.  Essentially this means that anywhere from ⅓ to ½ of our
> pay could be saved every year which amounts to more than we can save now
> living in the United States on American teacher salaries because we are
> generally so poorly paid in this country. The school is it’s own hillside
> enclave of about 200 acres as you can see on the website, and Mussoorie,
> where it is located is a touristy town of around 5,000 people. Not far from
> Rishikesh if that is helpful for the Beatles fans out there.
>
> I realize for many people the idea of moving to a village in India seems
> crazy even in ideal times.  These are not ideal times. But what an
> opportunity. I’m grappling with it. Any thoughts, advice, suggestions, from
> this wise lot as we contemplate and sift through the pros/cons of doing
> this?
>
> Your wise words and thoughts are most appreciated,
>
> Addison
>
> (In Reno for the time being)
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

2020-03-22 Thread Corwin

As I recall, the Atlantis with a fork modified for disc brakes involved a 
crash and an extensive rebuild.

Forks need to be much stiffer to handle disc brakes.

I doubt you will get Grant to offer a bike based solely on disc brakes.

...Unless you agree with him that rim brakes are the ultimate disc brakes.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 4:56:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Someone else onlist had his Atlantis disc-ified; perhaps he will speak up?
>
> He showed me a photo of the final result; very nice looking bike with the 
> alteration and repaint. 
>
> Perhaps all of this will push Grant into making a disc off road model; 
> then we'll push him into hub gears.
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 1:46 PM Matthew P  > wrote:
>
>> I would also like to know how much it cost to get the disc tabs put on, 
>> and any feedback on that.
>>
>> Did it include paint?  Was that vertical piece under the rear tab added?
>>
>> Is Waltworks the best option for this?  Perhaps I'll start a new thread.
>>
>> I'm interested in getting disc tabs on an Atlantis, for the braking, but 
>> perhaps more so that I can fit & swap wider tires at 650b and not as wide 
>> at 700c.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:26:18 AM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>
>>> I would be buying this if it were a size 52. Out of curiosity, do you 
>>> have any pics of it built up, and how much did it cost to get the disc tabs 
>>> welded on? 
>>
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[RBW] Homer x Rene Herse

2020-03-22 Thread Ray Varella

Can’t speak to your Homer because I don’t own one. 
What is the brake reach?

I have a bike that uses 47-57 mm brakes.  These are single pivot brakes and 
have a bit more clearance than double pivot brakes. The pads are at the bottom 
of the slots. 
The 38mm Snoqualamie pass tires fit fine and fit through the brakes with the 
quick realease open. 


YMMV
Ray

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[RBW] Real width of Schwalbe Big Ben tires and the effect with fenders.

2020-03-22 Thread Michael Morrissey

I have the widest SKS with Schwalbe big apples in the 700x2” on my Appaloosa. 
They fit fine. I’d be very surprised if you have trouble with clearance. Go for 
it. 

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[RBW] 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread Michael Morrissey

Running a “one-by” setup is so easy. I wouldn’t have my bikes any other way. I 
would recommend a changing guard like the one Rivendell sells in the outer ring 
position if you are running a regular chainring. The alternative is a skip 
tooth narrow wide chainring like one from WolfTooth. I have a WolfTooth on my 
Rivendell as a 1x9. 

Also keep in mind Sheldon Brown’s advice about his three speed. He said to set 
up your gear ratios as regular, slower, and really slow. So, go low with a 
chainring size. If memory serves, 34 teeth is a nice and slow way to go. 

Good luck!

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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

2020-03-22 Thread David Bivins

Here's my take on the same recipe that lambbo posted. I've been making it
for many, many years and I don't make any other bread. This makes a BETTER
loaf than Antone's (just kidding, really). It doesn't involve a blender. It
does involve a dutch oven.

I put a medium-sized mixing bowl on a scale, tare it, and add 15 ounces
all-purpose flour. King Arthur's has consistently been the most delicious.
Add 1/2 teaspoon salt and 1/4 teaspoon active dry yeast (not instant).
Whisk the dry ingredients or just stir them up with the handle of a spatula.
In a large measuring cup, add 7 ounces warm water, 3 ounces beer, and 1
tablespoon white vinegar.
(The beer can be crappy beer, good beer, or non-alcoholic beer. I use
non-alcoholic beer, but I've used everything from Trader Joe's crappy lager
to Lagunitas IPA.)
Using a large spoon or spatula, mix the liquid into the dry until you have
a shaggy ball of dough. It might not seem like you have enough liquid, but
you do. Just keep flipping the wad of dough over until all the dry bits get
picked up by the wet bits.
Cover the bowl with saran wrap and let it sit somewhere not cold for 8-18
hours.
Pull it out (don't throw out the plastic wrap) and plop it on a floured
surface. Fold it over onto itself over and over. I.e. take the top edge and
fold that into the middle. Rotate the dough to the left a quarter-turn.
Take the top edge and fold that into the middle, etc. Repeat until you have
a nice tight ball of dough. Pinch together any seam you have left.
Get a small skillet or pan - about 9 inches is good - and lay a sheet of
parchment paper in it, about 18-24 inches long. Spray the part over the
skillet with cooking spray. Put the ball of dough, seam-side down, on the
parchment so it's centered in the skillet. Spray the top of the dough with
cooking spray - just a quick overall spray. Put the plastic wrap you used
before over the dough ball. Let this rise again for 2 hours, again
somewhere not cold.
An hour-and-a-half later, heat the oven, with the dutch oven inside, to 500
degrees. A half hour later, reduce heat to 425.
Remove the plastic wrap from the dough, sprinkle the dough with a dusting
of flour. Cut the dough with a razor 1/4" deep - along the center is fine.
You can make an "X." You can make a square.
Remove the dutch oven from the oven and remove the lid. Using the parchment
paper like a sling, lower the dough ball into the dutch oven. Put the lid
back on. Put it in the oven for 25 minutes.
After 25 minutes has passed, take the lid off the dutch oven and bake
another 25 minutes. Remove from the dutch oven and let it cool.

Enjoy.

Here are a couple pictures:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9eTEmaBmOo/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9XmU0zhlI6/

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:29 AM lambbo  wrote:

> I've been quarantined for 2 weeks, and it's given me so much time to bake
> (and need, as I can't go shopping).
>
> My favorite recipe is from Mark Bitman's How to Cook Everything, Jim
> Lahey's No Knead Bread.
>   It makes VERY
> GOOD WAFFLE BATTER too, if you add more water and the next day you mix in
> whipped egg whites and sugar before pouring into the iron.
>
> I've been making it for years and refuse to look at the original recipe,
> so here's what mine is.  It turns out chewy, with an airy but substantial
> and moist crumb, crispy but not too hard crust.
>
> Into a kitchen-aid blender, add:
>
> 2 cups white flour
> 2 cups whole wheat
> 1/2 teaspoon instant dry yeast
> 2 teaspoons salt
>
> Pulse for a few seconds, until the white and wheat have mixed up a bit.
>
> Slowly add 2 cups of 75 degree water, stopping when the dough forms a ball
> zooming around the blender.  Sometimes I add a few tablespoons extra to
> make it almost soupy, for a different, airier crumb, but only if I'm doing
> 100% white.
>
> Transfer to a huge bowl, cover with plastic and let sit overnight.  The
> next morning, early, fold it, let it sit for 30, then form into a ball
> (hard part for me to be consistent on) and let it sit for at least 2
> hours.  Take a 2 hour bike ride.  Turn on the oven to 450 with a large pot
> inside (lid on, a little water in the pot to steam), when it's at temp flip
> the dough into the pot seam side up, put the lid back on, and bake for 20
> minutes. Take the lid off and cook for another 20 or 30.  Sometimes I bring
> it to Broil for the last 10, if I want max crust.
>
> Enjoy!  It's the easiest, best bread I've ever made.
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 10:47:59 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>>
>> Max, how fantastic! Truly a heartwarming story. You might be able to
>> launch a business during this time of quarantine, and I’m not joking. Most
>> folks don’t bake bread and the grocery store shelves have been bare. You
>> sound like you’ve got it down and can really turn out the loaves. Start a
>> business!
>>
>> Charmed,
>> Leah
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[RBW] Homer x Rene Herse

2020-03-22 Thread scott minor

I ran Snoqualmie 44’s on my Homer (pre MIT) and noticed that as the tires 
expanded with mileage, the rear got very tight but never rubbed.  I’m back on 
Barlow pass 38’s now, mainly because it has been so wet in the southeast that I 
had to put fenders back on.  But when this wet season lets up I’ll go back to 
the Snoqualmies.  I did notice the rear tire expanded more quickly than the 
front, probably due to carrying more weight, so I marked which was which and 
will reverse them when they go back on.   Plenty of room in the front, btw.  

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[RBW] Homer x Rene Herse

2020-03-22 Thread Daniel Jackson

To those who’ve tried: will my Waterford Homer clear Snoqualmie Pass or 
Hurricane Ridge RH tires?

Thanks,
D. 

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

2020-03-22 Thread Ian Dickson

Thanks, Patrick. I'm in the state emergency operations center, not in a 
healthcare facility, but it's still a lot. Going to have to squeeze in bike 
rides whenever I can.

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 5:22:30 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>  To Ian and all other healthcare workers on this list: good luck and good 
> wishes to you in the trenches; and may your bike rides be exceptionally 
> pleasant. I was talking to my ex (MD, DOM) the other day and she said that 
> she and her colleagues can't get the protective gear they need.
>
> I'd post a photo of my favorite Riv, but I guess that the 649th time would 
> be pushing things a bit too far. Just had a good acequia dirt ride on the 
> Matthews, though
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 7:44 PM Ian Dickson  > wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm a state public health worker, and today was my first day off in a 
> long time. I've wanted an Atlantis since there were Atlantises, and this 
> 56cm MIT frame was just sitting in its box waiting for me to get a few free 
> hours. Kind of slapped it together hastily today and took it for a ride. 
> It's a perfect bike. Really great to ride. Might wind up putting drops on 
> it. 
>

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[RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread Ian Dickson

Do you remember what spindle length you're running with the Mjolnir? I 
couldn't find any info about that.

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:00:30 PM UTC-6, Drw wrote:
>
> I just finished a ride on my 1x kid hauling riv.  I used a IRD mjolnir 
> crank, shimano bar end on paul thumbie, and sunrace 11-42 cassette. 9 
> speed, friction shifting. works great and i mostly pieced it together from 
> stuff i already had, minus the crank. i dont remember if i did any 
> calculations for chainline, but id assume that middle ring would be the 
> right position. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:15:58 AM UTC-7, Lithocarpus wrote:
>>
>> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was 
>> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you used, 
>> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m 
>> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, and 
>> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s a 
>> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned 
>> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long term, 
>> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down the 
>> road.
>>
>> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

Technology I stole from Grant. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 7:46:19 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>
> :)
>  I love that.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:34 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Using your fingers or a stick to shift, effectively making it 2 1x 
>> systems on the same bike. Allows for use of wide/narrow chain rings and 
>> works really well in my experience. Takes 3 seconds at a stop I'm stopping 
>> at anyway, usually at the trailhead or an obvious shift in terrain. Why? 
>> Simplicity. No trimming, no wrenching a derailure cause it ain't there. 
>> Grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 5:19:39 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> What’s a stick derailleur?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:53 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>> Aye, Kim. My 1x11 works well enough that I plan to ride it into the 
 ground then go with 2x9ish with stick front derailure. I think my 11 
 bottoms out at 46t, and, yeah, I can climb nearly anything.

 With abandon,
 Patrick 

 On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:13:38 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>
> For whatever this is worth, I agree -patrick -all my 1xs are so fussy. 
> (But i live in a remote mountainous area and I am never on road. It’s 
> more 
> like mini repack terrain. So this info might not apply to this forum so 
> much).
>
>
> I got chain drop whenever it was slightly muddy. The chain guide 
> mitigated that problem. But I still have the notorious back-pedal issues. 
> For me it has to do with the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not 
> been 
> a problem with the 46. 50t when it’s working means I can climb almost 
> anything. But I have the notorious  back-pedal issues -it has to do with 
> the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem with the 46.
> I’ve done b-tension w the special tool. Tried new chains, etc. but 
> still no dice.
>
> Box one has an 8spd/50t coming out and I admit I am kinda tempted.But 
> I will wait for the reviews.
>
> Maybe there’s something I’m missing but I am going back to 2x w. my 
> next build. Much less drama for me.
> I need to talk to The Analog team about their buzzard gearing. 
>
> (And Thx to everyone btw for the edification.)
> kim in az 
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:15 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
>
>> One more note, the 1x seems touchy to snow and mud in the derailure, 
>> more so than I recall when my Hunqapillar was 2x9 speed. This could be 
>> do 
>> to any combination of: 1. not remembering well, 2. 1x11's in general due 
>> to 
>> tight tolerances or, 3. longer chain stays.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick 
>>
>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:11:56 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by 
>>> Riv, playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell 
>>> with 
>>> the long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction 
>>> shifting, 
>>> but that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency 
>>> is to 
>>> shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:

 I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was 
 interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you 
 used, 
 and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m 
 considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, 
 and 
 trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. 
 It’s a 
 triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned 
 correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long 
 term, 
 I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down 
 the 
 road.

 What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread kim young

:)
 I love that.


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:34 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Using your fingers or a stick to shift, effectively making it 2 1x systems
> on the same bike. Allows for use of wide/narrow chain rings and works
> really well in my experience. Takes 3 seconds at a stop I'm stopping at
> anyway, usually at the trailhead or an obvious shift in terrain. Why?
> Simplicity. No trimming, no wrenching a derailure cause it ain't there.
> Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 5:19:39 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>>
>>
>> What’s a stick derailleur?
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:53 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
> Aye, Kim. My 1x11 works well enough that I plan to ride it into the ground
>>> then go with 2x9ish with stick front derailure. I think my 11 bottoms out
>>> at 46t, and, yeah, I can climb nearly anything.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:13:38 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:

 For whatever this is worth, I agree -patrick -all my 1xs are so fussy.
 (But i live in a remote mountainous area and I am never on road. It’s more
 like mini repack terrain. So this info might not apply to this forum so
 much).


 I got chain drop whenever it was slightly muddy. The chain guide
 mitigated that problem. But I still have the notorious back-pedal issues.
 For me it has to do with the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been
 a problem with the 46. 50t when it’s working means I can climb almost
 anything. But I have the notorious  back-pedal issues -it has to do with
 the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem with the 46.
 I’ve done b-tension w the special tool. Tried new chains, etc. but
 still no dice.

 Box one has an 8spd/50t coming out and I admit I am kinda tempted.But I
 will wait for the reviews.

 Maybe there’s something I’m missing but I am going back to 2x w. my
 next build. Much less drama for me.
 I need to talk to The Analog team about their buzzard gearing.

 (And Thx to everyone btw for the edification.)
 kim in az

 On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:15 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> One more note, the 1x seems touchy to snow and mud in the derailure,
> more so than I recall when my Hunqapillar was 2x9 speed. This could be do
> to any combination of: 1. not remembering well, 2. 1x11's in general due 
> to
> tight tolerances or, 3. longer chain stays.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:11:56 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by
>> Riv, playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell 
>> with
>> the long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction shifting,
>> but that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency is 
>> to
>> shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was
>>> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you 
>>> used,
>>> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m
>>> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, 
>>> and
>>> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s 
>>> a
>>> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned
>>> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long 
>>> term,
>>> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down 
>>> the
>>> road.
>>>
>>> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

My rear skid story also involves a sweater! 
My cool morning sweater was tied around my waist, and slipped down into the 
wheel as I was frailin’ my fixed gear down a steep hill onto a bridge. Rear 
wheel locks up and slides, I brake hard on the front, and fetch up against the 
low guardrail over a 20’ drop into deep water and flooded saplings. If I’d been 
going just a couple miles an hour faster, I’d been over the edge. As it was, 
the tread was worn down to the casing, and I thump-thump-thumped home very 
carefully. I don’t tie sweaters around my waist anymore.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

Using your fingers or a stick to shift, effectively making it 2 1x systems 
on the same bike. Allows for use of wide/narrow chain rings and works 
really well in my experience. Takes 3 seconds at a stop I'm stopping at 
anyway, usually at the trailhead or an obvious shift in terrain. Why? 
Simplicity. No trimming, no wrenching a derailure cause it ain't there. 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 5:19:39 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>
>
> What’s a stick derailleur?
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:53 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Aye, Kim. My 1x11 works well enough that I plan to ride it into the 
>> ground then go with 2x9ish with stick front derailure. I think my 11 
>> bottoms out at 46t, and, yeah, I can climb nearly anything.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick 
>>
>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:13:38 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>>>
>>> For whatever this is worth, I agree -patrick -all my 1xs are so fussy. 
>>> (But i live in a remote mountainous area and I am never on road. It’s more 
>>> like mini repack terrain. So this info might not apply to this forum so 
>>> much).
>>>
>>>
>>> I got chain drop whenever it was slightly muddy. The chain guide 
>>> mitigated that problem. But I still have the notorious back-pedal issues. 
>>> For me it has to do with the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been 
>>> a problem with the 46. 50t when it’s working means I can climb almost 
>>> anything. But I have the notorious  back-pedal issues -it has to do with 
>>> the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem with the 46.
>>> I’ve done b-tension w the special tool. Tried new chains, etc. but still 
>>> no dice.
>>>
>>> Box one has an 8spd/50t coming out and I admit I am kinda tempted.But I 
>>> will wait for the reviews.
>>>
>>> Maybe there’s something I’m missing but I am going back to 2x w. my next 
>>> build. Much less drama for me.
>>> I need to talk to The Analog team about their buzzard gearing. 
>>>
>>> (And Thx to everyone btw for the edification.)
>>> kim in az 
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:15 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 One more note, the 1x seems touchy to snow and mud in the derailure, 
 more so than I recall when my Hunqapillar was 2x9 speed. This could be do 
 to any combination of: 1. not remembering well, 2. 1x11's in general due 
 to 
 tight tolerances or, 3. longer chain stays.

 With abandon,
 Patrick 

 On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:11:56 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by 
> Riv, playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell 
> with 
> the long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction shifting, 
> but that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency is 
> to 
> shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:
>>
>> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was 
>> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you 
>> used, 
>> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m 
>> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, 
>> and 
>> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s 
>> a 
>> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned 
>> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long 
>> term, 
>> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down 
>> the 
>> road.
>>
>> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: What is a gear-chart, and how do you use it?

2020-03-22 Thread dougP

I looked up "cyclo puter".  The name was trademarked in '75 but not renewed 
in '81.  That is one rare find.  But.does it go to 11?

dougP

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 5:06:02 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Oh wow. That analog gear calculator is amazing. 
> I have a slide rule around - I’ll check Sheldon’s instructions on using it 
> to calculate gears. I did it a couple times a long G.P. time ago. 
>
> Philip 
> Also in SR CA 
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB

Wow. That “Rivendell before Grant went crazy” (that cracked me up) bike is 
beautiful. Clearly it needs a fixed gear conversion. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

2020-03-22 Thread 'Todd Ripley' via RBW Owners Bunch

Ok...30 miles on the ‘land yacht’ today, to include Swamp Rabbit Trail and 
Tubbs MTN (pictured). Currently semi-loaded (the bike, that is) in prep for 
week on Blue Ridge Parkway in May.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0KOe6Dt1x1cXqBpx_K0oh3Yaw#Parker_&_Travelers_Rest

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

Group ride separately is a beautiful idea.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: What is a gear-chart, and how do you use it?

Oh wow. That analog gear calculator is amazing. 
I have a slide rule around - I’ll check Sheldon’s instructions on using it to 
calculate gears. I did it a couple times a long G.P. time ago.

Philip
Also in SR CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

Fitz made me a disc fork for my Atlantis, still working on getting all the 
parts for the transition. I'm not the one with the full disc Atlantis, i 
think that is William. His bike gave me the idea, but i believe his is also 
a new fork and mod on the back.  i reached out to a number of builders who 
wouldn't put disc tabs on the stock Atlantis fork

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

Someone else onlist had his Atlantis disc-ified; perhaps he will speak up?

He showed me a photo of the final result; very nice looking bike with the
alteration and repaint.

Perhaps all of this will push Grant into making a disc off road model; then
we'll push him into hub gears.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 1:46 PM Matthew P 
wrote:

> I would also like to know how much it cost to get the disc tabs put on,
> and any feedback on that.
>
> Did it include paint?  Was that vertical piece under the rear tab added?
>
> Is Waltworks the best option for this?  Perhaps I'll start a new thread.
>
> I'm interested in getting disc tabs on an Atlantis, for the braking, but
> perhaps more so that I can fit & swap wider tires at 650b and not as wide
> at 700c.
>
> Thank you.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
>
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 7:26:18 AM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>> I would be buying this if it were a size 52. Out of curiosity, do you
>> have any pics of it built up, and how much did it cost to get the disc tabs
>> welded on?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What is a gear-chart, and how do you use it?

Did any of you ever carefully type out gear charts, cut them out, and tape
them to your stems? I did!

I also used to calculate gear ratios during boring staff meetings, long ago.

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[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

2020-03-22 Thread Mat Grewe

[image: Image result for sheldon brown tandem]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

Not bike related, but certainly accident related: Your forlorn attempt to
get airborne reminds me of a jarring experience at age 9 when I saw my
first skateboard -- they were really just boards with metal skate trucks
bolted to them. For some reason, I got the bright idea that I could place
the skateboard squarely facing me on a friend's concrete driveway, walk
back 15 feet, take a run, and do a belly flop onto the board. Forget what
exactly I expected to gain from this.

Needless to say, I overshot the skateboard and landed on my front teeth,
which were big enough to earn me the monicker, "Beaver." One is still a
couple of mm shorter than the other.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Alan Pickett 
wrote:

> Joe's mention of his Stingray reminded me of this: in 1977 I was living in
> Charleston WV and had a yellow Schwinn Stingray. Black banana seat and
> those high, high "monkey bars". Behind our house, there was a church, and
> we would often ride our bikes in the parking lot, bunny hopping, and
> jumping off the edge of the asphalt, which dropped sharply about 2.5-3ft as
> it transitioned into an undeveloped, weedy and rock-strewn lot. I don't
> know what inspired me, but I got it in my head that if secured my mom's
> large umbrella to the very back of the seat (in addition to the seat post,
> there was a long, vertical arc of cheap metal that attached at the rear
> drop-outs and rose up to stabilize the seat), I might perhaps sail loftily
> over the drop-off, momentarily weightless, and alight gracefully to the
> weed-lot below. Needless to say, my vision, as well as my bike and I, came
> crashing down, as the umbrella only served to produce enough drag to keep
> my rear-end up, briefly holding my bike in a nose-dive position before I
> was severely re-introduced to terra-firma. Hey, at least I had a dream!
>
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[RBW] Re: What is a gear-chart, and how do you use it?

2020-03-22 Thread reynoldslugs


Phil - that is a great online calculator.  It’s a great tool, but for rainy 
days and lockdowns, I love this analog go-to:

https://flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157658291314262

Best,

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 10:17:21 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I love and miss Sheldon, but this is the gear calculator I wish that I had 
> designed: http://www.gear-calculator.com/ 
>
> I’ve never printed a gear chart. I use the calculator to see some things 
> about the gears I’ll get with cassette and rings I’m considering: 
> - Range of gearing. I like ~100” at the top, and ~30” at the bottom for 
> most bikes. That’s about a 1:1 gear, with a 30t cog and a 30t ring with a 
> 700/54 tire. Smaller tires or rims will give you lower gears for the same 
> cog/ring combo. 
> - A ~72” gear around the third or fourth cog spot in the big ring. That’s 
> my main gear, and the chainline should be pretty straight there. 
> - That the gears aren’t redundant between the two chainrings. It’s an OCD 
> thing more than actual, since I’m never going to make three shifts to fine 
> tune a 54” gear to get a somehow more perfect 52” gear. People used to 
> wring maximum gearing out of 2 rings and 5 cogs and the thought of only 
> getting six different gears made them itch. Try out 52/39 and five cogs and 
> see what you get. 
>
> A good place to start is by setting up the calculator with the gears you 
> have, and think about if you are happy with the gear jumps when you’re 
> riding along at a good clip. 
>
> And when you buy a new cassette, get a new chain as well. 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

 To Ian and all other healthcare workers on this list: good luck and good
wishes to you in the trenches; and may your bike rides be exceptionally
pleasant. I was talking to my ex (MD, DOM) the other day and she said that
she and her colleagues can't get the protective gear they need.

I'd post a photo of my favorite Riv, but I guess that the 649th time would
be pushing things a bit too far. Just had a good acequia dirt ride on the
Matthews, though

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 7:44 PM Ian Dickson  wrote:
>
>
> I'm a state public health worker, and today was my first day off in a
long time. I've wanted an Atlantis since there were Atlantises, and this
56cm MIT frame was just sitting in its box waiting for me to get a few free
hours. Kind of slapped it together hastily today and took it for a ride.
It's a perfect bike. Really great to ride. Might wind up putting drops on
it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread kim young

What’s a stick derailleur?

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:53 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Aye, Kim. My 1x11 works well enough that I plan to ride it into the ground
> then go with 2x9ish with stick front derailure. I think my 11 bottoms out
> at 46t, and, yeah, I can climb nearly anything.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:13:38 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>>
>> For whatever this is worth, I agree -patrick -all my 1xs are so fussy.
>> (But i live in a remote mountainous area and I am never on road. It’s more
>> like mini repack terrain. So this info might not apply to this forum so
>> much).
>>
>>
>> I got chain drop whenever it was slightly muddy. The chain guide
>> mitigated that problem. But I still have the notorious back-pedal issues.
>> For me it has to do with the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been
>> a problem with the 46. 50t when it’s working means I can climb almost
>> anything. But I have the notorious  back-pedal issues -it has to do with
>> the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem with the 46.
>> I’ve done b-tension w the special tool. Tried new chains, etc. but still
>> no dice.
>>
>> Box one has an 8spd/50t coming out and I admit I am kinda tempted.But I
>> will wait for the reviews.
>>
>> Maybe there’s something I’m missing but I am going back to 2x w. my next
>> build. Much less drama for me.
>> I need to talk to The Analog team about their buzzard gearing.
>>
>> (And Thx to everyone btw for the edification.)
>> kim in az
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:15 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> One more note, the 1x seems touchy to snow and mud in the derailure,
>>> more so than I recall when my Hunqapillar was 2x9 speed. This could be do
>>> to any combination of: 1. not remembering well, 2. 1x11's in general due to
>>> tight tolerances or, 3. longer chain stays.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:11:56 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by
 Riv, playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell with
 the long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction shifting,
 but that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency is to
 shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:
>
> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was
> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you used,
> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m
> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, and
> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s a
> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned
> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long term,
> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down the
> road.
>
> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up.
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Re: [RBW] WTB

2020-03-22 Thread Max S

>From a mechanical engineering perspective, that size frame with tubing of 
>those diameters and that seat tube angle will most likely feel comfortable. No 
>less than the Riadini. And tire size limits would be comparable. Some people 
>do prefer caliper brakes to cantis, so that would be one big diff. And price, 
>but you’re getting a builder of some renown, beautiful lugwork, great paint... 
> I’d splurge on some 32-35 mm tires from Compass / Rene Herse on low profile 
>rims to liven it up further. I’ve an Ebisu All-Purpose that’s basically like 
>that, and I love it. 

- Max “all-around positive” in A2

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

Anyway, back to the thread. I may be slightly cooped up and rambling a bit. 
Like, even more than usual!

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

Aye, Kim. My 1x11 works well enough that I plan to ride it into the ground 
then go with 2x9ish with stick front derailure. I think my 11 bottoms out 
at 46t, and, yeah, I can climb nearly anything.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:13:38 PM UTC-6, Flowerfang wrote:
>
> For whatever this is worth, I agree -patrick -all my 1xs are so fussy. 
> (But i live in a remote mountainous area and I am never on road. It’s more 
> like mini repack terrain. So this info might not apply to this forum so 
> much).
>
>
> I got chain drop whenever it was slightly muddy. The chain guide mitigated 
> that problem. But I still have the notorious back-pedal issues. For me it 
> has to do with the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem 
> with the 46. 50t when it’s working means I can climb almost anything. But I 
> have the notorious  back-pedal issues -it has to do with the big pizza ring 
> (50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem with the 46.
> I’ve done b-tension w the special tool. Tried new chains, etc. but still 
> no dice.
>
> Box one has an 8spd/50t coming out and I admit I am kinda tempted.But I 
> will wait for the reviews.
>
> Maybe there’s something I’m missing but I am going back to 2x w. my next 
> build. Much less drama for me.
> I need to talk to The Analog team about their buzzard gearing. 
>
> (And Thx to everyone btw for the edification.)
> kim in az 
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:15 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
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>> One more note, the 1x seems touchy to snow and mud in the derailure, more 
>> so than I recall when my Hunqapillar was 2x9 speed. This could be do to any 
>> combination of: 1. not remembering well, 2. 1x11's in general due to tight 
>> tolerances or, 3. longer chain stays.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick 
>>
>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:11:56 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by Riv, 
>>> playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell with the 
>>> long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction shifting, but 
>>> that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency is to 
>>> shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:

 I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was 
 interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you used, 
 and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m 
 considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, and 
 trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s a 
 triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned 
 correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long term, 
 I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down the 
 road.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

"藍藍藍 What kind of tomfoolery was this?!? The ‘70s must have really been 
something."

Ya know how you sometimes think, "That Joe, he's ok I guess, but he's SUCH an 
idiot." I grew up in the '70s 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

Awesome. Thanks

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:21 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> 藍藍藍 What kind of tomfoolery was this?!? The ‘70s must have really been
> something.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> >
> > Tangential to my last story and not really a crash story but there is
> one at the end, but mostly because I've never had a reason to tell this one
> before:
> >
> > One time as a kid in Long Beach, CA. I was out on my bike early evening.
> I came up on this commotion in an alley way and - I could not believe my
> eyes - there were 2 or 3 cars lined up side by side; a huge ramp on one
> ended, a shorter one on the other. There were big spotlights strung up like
> this was some kind of "event", but no TV cameras. Presently I discovered
> there was a rider on some sort of BMX-looking bike with an HUGE front
> chainring. Ok, this fool is going to jump these cars in this alley under
> these lights, and I just happened to discover it. None of this makes sense!
> >
> > The next thing that didn't make sense is there was a big telephone pole
> set on the edge of the alley, right down the way a few yards from the
> landing ramp. No problem, I wouldn't even worry about it.
> >
> > Whelp, he got to cranking on those cranks and hit the big ramp with the
> quickness..and dontcha know he completely overshot the other one, the bike
> bounced a couple times and tossed him right into that pole! Broken arm, and
> now I remember there was even an ambulance there for him to get into. With
> his cute girlfriend attending, because this scene wouldn't be complete
> without our hero having a worried cute girlfriend on the other side of this
> ridiculous stunt.
> >
> > I swear all of this is true. The '70s were... different.
> >
> > Joe "I was there" Bernard
> > Marin County CA.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

2020-03-22 Thread Leah Peterson

藍藍藍 What kind of tomfoolery was this?!? The ‘70s must have really been 
something. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Tangential to my last story and not really a crash story but there is one at 
> the end, but mostly because I've never had a reason to tell this one before: 
> 
> One time as a kid in Long Beach, CA. I was out on my bike early evening. I 
> came up on this commotion in an alley way and - I could not believe my eyes - 
> there were 2 or 3 cars lined up side by side; a huge ramp on one ended, a 
> shorter one on the other. There were big spotlights strung up like this was 
> some kind of "event", but no TV cameras. Presently I discovered there was a 
> rider on some sort of BMX-looking bike with an HUGE front chainring. Ok, this 
> fool is going to jump these cars in this alley under these lights, and I just 
> happened to discover it. None of this makes sense! 
> 
> The next thing that didn't make sense is there was a big telephone pole set 
> on the edge of the alley, right down the way a few yards from the landing 
> ramp. No problem, I wouldn't even worry about it. 
> 
> Whelp, he got to cranking on those cranks and hit the big ramp with the 
> quickness..and dontcha know he completely overshot the other one, the bike 
> bounced a couple times and tossed him right into that pole! Broken arm, and 
> now I remember there was even an ambulance there for him to get into. With 
> his cute girlfriend attending, because this scene wouldn't be complete 
> without our hero having a worried cute girlfriend on the other side of this 
> ridiculous stunt. 
> 
> I swear all of this is true. The '70s were... different.  
> 
> Joe "I was there" Bernard
> Marin County CA. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

You can find ANYTHING on the internet. Apparently - I didn't know this - BMX 
was invented by a motocross racer in Long Beach in 1970. He even refers to 
being an Evel Kneivel-style daredevil in this article, though I have no way of 
knowing if he was the loon jumping cars. But it does explain a guy on a 
"BMX-looking bike" doing something insane in Long Beach when I was a kid. So 
there ya go! 

PS. I rode my Sting-Ray on the lot mentioned here. I didn't know it was the 
first BMX track. 

https://signaltribunenewspaper.com/8260/sports/from-lb-dirt-lot-to-the-olympics-bicycle-motocross-celebrating-its-40th/

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[RBW] FS: Brompton M6L + extras

Time to let this one go. Had it for less than a year, and am just not
riding it (but somehow am still buying parts for it). Im the second owner.
I was told it is a 2013 model.

*M6L (6 speed, M bars) in raw lacquer. *
*Upgrades*
-New nitto rear rack
-new Titanium suspension spring (will include plastic original as well)
-new eazy wheels
-new magnetic hinge clamps
-new M bars that are slightly lower and wider
-handlebar bottle mount with King cage
-new ergon grips

*Extras*
-Brompton took kit that stows in one of the tubes
-unopened chain
-unopened seatpost bung
-unopened tube
-unopened spring tensioner

*Condition*
It's raw lacquer, and it does show rust. I cleaned some of the rust and put
a gray primer over parts. See photos. It's all aesthetic and normal for the
clear finish, but its there. No dents or dings. Rides great, though I
attempted a shift cable swap a few weeks ago and now i cant get the lowest
gear to shift into place. ive never worked on a sturmey archer hub, but
this should be a 2 minute fix by someone who knows what they are doing.

saddle not included

considering all the extras, im thinking *1,200$ plus actual shipping.*

photos here https://photos.app.goo.gl/rLegfU6iBJo24a7fA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

Tangential to my last story and not really a crash story but there is one at
the end, but mostly because I've never had a reason to tell this one before:

One time as a kid in Long Beach, CA. I was out on my bike early evening. I came
up on this commotion in an alley way and - I could not believe my eyes - there
were 2 or 3 cars lined up side by side; a huge ramp on one ended, a shorter one
on the other. There were big spotlights strung up like this was some kind of
"event", but no TV cameras. Presently I discovered there was a rider on some
sort of BMX-looking bike with an HUGE front chainring. Ok, this fool is going
to jump these cars in this alley under these lights, and I just happened to
discover it. None of this makes sense!

The next thing that didn't make sense is there was a big telephone pole set on
the edge of the alley, right down the way a few yards from the landing ramp. No
problem, I wouldn't even worry about it.

Whelp, he got to cranking on those cranks and hit the big ramp with the
quickness..and dontcha know he completely overshot the other one, the bike
bounced a couple times and tossed him right into that pole! Broken arm, and now
I remember there was even an ambulance there for him to get into. With his cute
girlfriend attending, because this scene wouldn't be complete without our hero
having a worried cute girlfriend on the other side of this ridiculous stunt.

I swear all of this is true. The '70s were... different.

Joe "I was there" Bernard
Marin County CA.

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Re: [RBW] WTB

It is indeed. Thanks.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 4:02 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Oh I wouldn't know. It's a custom touring bike so I can't compare it to a
> Roadini, Will or Grant should be able to help with that.
>
> The bottom line for me is if I was looking for a Riv road bike and this
> fit and I had the cash..no brainer, I'd buy it. Great color, great price,
> it's all good.
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[RBW] Re: Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

2020-03-22 Thread John A. Bennett

Vote: Go! It's a beautiful part of the world with great people. Something 
you'd eventually regret not doing if you didn't.  

If it were me, I'd take two Clem Ls fitted with Schwalbe tires. 

John in Portland, Ore. 

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 7:05:09 AM UTC-7, Addison wrote:
>
>
> I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.  
> FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both 
> international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private 
> school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year 
> contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious: 
> https://www.woodstockschool.in/
>
> This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems the 
> place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really miss 
> a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.  Side 
> question: I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the himalayas 
> written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody remember the 
> book I may be remembering?
>
> Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match 
> the location right? I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if 
> my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.
>
> The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even 
> take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times. The alarmist 
> is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from 
> the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best, 
> and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to 
> even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the 
> opportunity of a lifetime. Woodstock school is mentioned in some 
> international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a 
> “unicorn school.” Tough to pass up.
>
> Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school 
> district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a 
> crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe, 
> who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the 
> safer move? It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of 
> the job as well. For example, even though the pay is much less, the 
> benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights 
> for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a 
> 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are substantially subsidized, our littlest 
> child would get a nanny and both our kids would get free tuition at the 
> same IB school.  Essentially this means that anywhere from ⅓ to ½ of our 
> pay could be saved every year which amounts to more than we can save now 
> living in the United States on American teacher salaries because we are 
> generally so poorly paid in this country. The school is it’s own hillside 
> enclave of about 200 acres as you can see on the website, and Mussoorie, 
> where it is located is a touristy town of around 5,000 people. Not far from 
> Rishikesh if that is helpful for the Beatles fans out there.
>
> I realize for many people the idea of moving to a village in India seems 
> crazy even in ideal times.  These are not ideal times. But what an 
> opportunity. I’m grappling with it. Any thoughts, advice, suggestions, from 
> this wise lot as we contemplate and sift through the pros/cons of doing 
> this?
>
> Your wise words and thoughts are most appreciated,
>
> Addison
>
> (In Reno for the time being)
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What is a gear-chart, and how do you use it?

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 3/22/20 10:36 AM, lambbo wrote:

Steve, thanks for the in depth response. My ghost shifting is under
weight, and given that I weight 230, it happens a lot. My inherited
cassette now has an additional 2000 or so miles on it, and I've been
meaning to get a new wheel, so have delayed replacing the cassette
until then. I kind of forgot about how old it is. I use Silver 1
friction shifters, but I also friction shift on my cheviot (9 speed)
and it's flawless. The rear der. is set up properly as far as I can
tell...I wonder if given how much I may flex the bike, indexed would
be better. I'm going to look into an indexed downtube shifter for
the rear (front is fine friction).

If you're friction shifting 10 or 11 and you're getting ghost shifting,
don't be too surprised. As I think I mentioned, I couldn't avoid it
with 8, worked fine with 7. There's not that much difference in
thickness and spacing between 7 and 8, and that little bit was enough to
make it unacceptable to me. 10 is thinner/closer and 11 even more so.
Yes, some can do it; but I don't feel bad that I can't, and you
shouldn't either, if that's the case.

It's also possible that at 2,000 miles the chain is worn out and now has
worn the cassette out.

Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA

Re: [RBW] WTB

Oh I wouldn't know. It's a custom touring bike so I can't compare it to a 
Roadini, Will or Grant should be able to help with that. 

The bottom line for me is if I was looking for a Riv road bike and this fit and 
I had the cash..no brainer, I'd buy it. Great color, great price, it's all 
good. 

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Re: [RBW] WTB

Thanks.  Similar ride?

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 9:40 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

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> this week/weekend, he'll give you the straight dope on that bike. I saw it
> live in color a few months ago at the shop and it's spectacular. Buy it,
> ride it!
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread kim young

For whatever this is worth, I agree -patrick -all my 1xs are so fussy. (But
i live in a remote mountainous area and I am never on road. It’s more like
mini repack terrain. So this info might not apply to this forum so much).

I got chain drop whenever it was slightly muddy. The chain guide mitigated
that problem. But I still have the notorious back-pedal issues. For me it
has to do with the big pizza ring (50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem
with the 46. 50t when it’s working means I can climb almost anything. But I
have the notorious  back-pedal issues -it has to do with the big pizza ring
(50t). Back-pedal has not been a problem with the 46.
I’ve done b-tension w the special tool. Tried new chains, etc. but still no
dice.

Box one has an 8spd/50t coming out and I admit I am kinda tempted.But I
will wait for the reviews.

Maybe there’s something I’m missing but I am going back to 2x w. my next
build. Much less drama for me.
I need to talk to The Analog team about their buzzard gearing.

(And Thx to everyone btw for the edification.)
kim in az

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> One more note, the 1x seems touchy to snow and mud in the derailure, more
> so than I recall when my Hunqapillar was 2x9 speed. This could be do to any
> combination of: 1. not remembering well, 2. 1x11's in general due to tight
> tolerances or, 3. longer chain stays.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:11:56 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by Riv,
>> playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell with the
>> long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction shifting, but
>> that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency is to
>> shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was
>>> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you used,
>>> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m
>>> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, and
>>> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s a
>>> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned
>>> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long term,
>>> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down the
>>> road.
>>>
>>> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

2020-03-22 Thread Robert Tilley

  I'd take my Tumbleweed Prospector if I was in that situation. 3" 27.5 tires and a Rohloff so I'd be ready for anything plus I'd have something to tour on if that opportunity came up.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: addisonwilh...@gmail.comSent: March 22, 2020 7:05 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills?  And would you even go?  I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.  FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious:  https://www.woodstockschool.in/This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems the place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really miss a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.  Side question:  I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the himalayas written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody remember the book I may be remembering?Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match the location right?  I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times.  The alarmist is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best, and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the opportunity of a lifetime.  Woodstock school is mentioned in some international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a “unicorn school.”  Tough to pass up.Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe, who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the safer move?  It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of the job as well.  For example, even though the pay is much less, the benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are substantially subsidized, our littlest child would get a nanny and both our kids would get free tuition at the same IB school.  Essentially this means that anywhere from ⅓ to ½ of our pay could be saved every year which amounts to more than we can save now living in the United States on American teacher salaries because we are generally so poorly paid in this country.  The school is it’s own hillside enclave of about 200 acres as you can see on the website, and Mussoorie, where it is located is a touristy town of around 5,000 people.  Not far from Rishikesh if that is helpful for the Beatles fans out there.I realize for many people the idea of moving to a village in India seems crazy even in ideal times.  These are not ideal times.  But what an opportunity.  I’m grappling with it.  Any thoughts, advice, suggestions, from this wise lot as we contemplate and sift through the pros/cons of doing this?Your wise words and thoughts are most appreciated,Addison(In Reno for the time being)Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology “Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”Portfolio and Blog



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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

2020-03-22 Thread Matthew P

I would also like to know how much it cost to get the disc tabs put on, and 
any feedback on that.

Did it include paint?  Was that vertical piece under the rear tab added?

Is Waltworks the best option for this?  Perhaps I'll start a new thread.

I'm interested in getting disc tabs on an Atlantis, for the braking, but 
perhaps more so that I can fit & swap wider tires at 650b and not as wide 
at 700c.

Thank you.
-Matthew
San Diego

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> I would be buying this if it were a size 52. Out of curiosity, do you have 
> any pics of it built up, and how much did it cost to get the disc tabs 
> welded on? 

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[RBW] Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

2020-03-22 Thread WETH

Addison,
As a fellow educator who has long been intrigued by the prospect of the 
international school circuit, I say go for it!  It speaks to you or you 
wouldn’t have gotten this far.  You and your wife are great teachers, or you 
wouldn’t have been offered the jobs.  Spending a portion of their formative 
years in different countries is a priceless gift to your children.  When you 
are ready to return to the USA, you should have no trouble finding teaching 
jobs, if the experiences of friends are any indication.  Happy to connect you 
with friends of mine who worked in international schools and/or still do. Reply 
off list if interested.
Erl 
Kensington, MD
Oh, the All Rounder for sure!

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread tarik saleh

Drew,  

That is an excellent bike. 

Tarik

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> On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Drw  wrote:
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> 
> this is the very weird bike. 
> 
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[RBW] 1x drivetrain question

I built a MIT Atlantis with a Microshift Advent 1 x 11-42 group, normal 
chainring and a Paul Chainkeeper. Easy peasy, works great. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

Oh I have another Sting-Ray crash story: This was the early-'70s and the heyday 
of Evel Kneivel. We all set up ramps and jumped things (or kids) on those bikes 
and they weren't built for this. Every kid in my neighborhood eventually 
snapped their fork and went tumbling down the alley. Good times! 藍

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

2020-03-22 Thread R Shannon

Leah,

Watch out for the road turtles even in dry weather! The ones in my neck of the 
woods are pretty robust. 

Best,
Rich in ATL

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> On Mar 22, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
> 
> I have loved this thread; it really has been so instructive and also - 
> please don’t take offense - entertaining. 
> 
> I now have a name for those yellow things in the road (“road turtles”) and 
> know that I should never get near them in the rain. I will never, ever race 
> my best friend lest she turn her bike in front of me and send me flying. I 
> will certainly never attempt a wheelie. 
> 
> In all seriousness, these stories as well as the COVID pandemic have made me 
> more careful - now is not a good time to need a hospital. I usually ride 
> helmet-free but I’ve been wearing one more often just as an extra layer of 
> safety. Helmets come with certain annoyances, particularly for women, and 
> because I can’t ever just be serious, I catalogued it in the video below. 
> 
> I don’t have a crash story to contribute, but what I have I give to you. 
> Also, don’t we just need to laugh these days? 
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>>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:46 AM, SurlyProf  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Reading about all of these injuries and browsing X-rays makes me realize how 
>> lucky I've been in my 45-50 years of riding a bike.  In all that time, I've 
>> only been in 3 crashes (all, of course, involving cars with clueless 
>> drivers). 
>> 
>> In the '80's, I bought my first really nice "Italian" bike at a sidewalk 
>> sale in Huntington Beach (1/2 price!).  I'd been out of college for a year 
>> or so and hadn't owned a bike since my last one was stolen freshman year.  
>> It was an '86 Bertoni Corsa Mondiale in metallic lavender (in Italian they 
>> called it, "God-awful purple").  Loved that bike but thought it might have 
>> been cursed.  Within a month or two I had two crashes in the same weekend!  
>> The first happened as I was riding down in the Newport/Balboa area.  I was 
>> probably cruising at 25+ mph when I was passed by a van.  The van barely 
>> went another city block when it took a right turn in front of me.  I hit the 
>> brakes and slid the bike sideways like I was doing a hockey stop.  I must 
>> have hit the side of that van at 10 mph.  The whole incident seemed to 
>> happen in slow motion.  I even remember the fear in the elderly woman's face 
>> as I slammed into the van right next to her.  Looked like a couple driving 
>> their in-laws around the area.  I'm sure this incident made an impression as 
>> I did given the huge Wile E. Coyote-shaped dent I put in their side.  They 
>> slowed and saw that I was still on the bike and, I guess, assumed I was OK 
>> and drove off.  I quickly unclipped and put a foot down and then heard the 
>> lunchtime host at the restaurant on the corner where it happen say (in a 
>> fantastic Jeff Spicolli voice), "Du-u-u-de... I can't believe you stayed on 
>> the bike!"
>> 
>> The next day I went out for an easy ride to loosen up my severely bruised 
>> hip and shoulder and was right-hooked by a pick up truck.  That time, I was 
>> not so lucky.  I flew over the handlebars onto the pavement as I heard the 
>> squealing of tires as they tore off.  My rear wheel was completely taco-ed 
>> which I didn't bother repairing for at least a month since I thought the 
>> bike was cursed.  Fortunately, because of the previous day's accident, I was 
>> wearing a helmet that second day.  Could've been a lot worse. 
>> 
>> I loved that bike and kept it for another 25+ years.  Wish I'd held on to it 
>> for riding Eroica.  Still had all the original Shimano 600 gruppo 
>> (obligatory bike-geek statement).
>> 
>> John 
>> Niles, CA
>> 
>>> On Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 3:40:10 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>> On a recent thread, we veered off topic things that might cause crashes. 
>>> Stories began pouring in, and they were fascinating and useful. I think we 
>>> should have a new thread here where you can contribute your experiences and 
>>> the rest of us can learn a thing or two. For instance, I didn’t know a 
>>> fender unsecured at the seat stay could cause a crash and now I do. I’ll be 
>>> fixing mine forthwith! 
>>> 
>>> I feel fortunate not to have any stories to contribute here, but please 
>>> share yours with us. Some of them might even be funny. (We’ll be laughing 
>>> WITH you.) 
>>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

One more note, the 1x seems touchy to snow and mud in the derailure, more 
so than I recall when my Hunqapillar was 2x9 speed. This could be do to any 
combination of: 1. not remembering well, 2. 1x11's in general due to tight 
tolerances or, 3. longer chain stays.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 12:11:56 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by Riv, 
> playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell with the 
> long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction shifting, but 
> that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency is to 
> shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:
>>
>> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was 
>> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you used, 
>> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m 
>> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, and 
>> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s a 
>> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned 
>> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long term, 
>> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down the 
>> road.
>>
>> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

One more remark (I should gather my thoughts before I hit the keys):
Woodstock is classy indeed, and Mussoorie is not a village; it's
practically a hillside resort with a large tourist trade. It's close to
Dehra Dhun, a moderately sized city, which is probably where the American
expat families were based that boarded their children at Woodstock;
probably missionaries.

At close to 7K feet you'd have a very moderate climate, as opposed to the
hot weather hell in the big cities; it seems they get a lot of snow in
winter. Man, this is a premium offer.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:05 AM Addison Wilhite 
wrote:

>
> I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.
> FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both
> international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private
> school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year
> contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious:
> https://www.woodstockschool.in/
>
> This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems the
> place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really miss
> a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.  Side
> question: I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the himalayas
> written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody remember the
> book I may be remembering?
>
> Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match
> the location right? I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if
> my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.
>
> The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even
> take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times. The alarmist
> is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from
> the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best,
> and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to
> even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the
> opportunity of a lifetime. Woodstock school is mentioned in some
> international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a
> “unicorn school.” Tough to pass up.
>
> Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school
> district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a
> crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe,
> who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the
> safer move? It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of
> the job as well. For example, even though the pay is much less, the
> benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights
> for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a
> 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are substantially subsidized, our littlest
> child would get a nanny and both our kids would get free tuition at the
> same IB school.  Essentially this means that anywhere from ⅓ to ½ of our
> pay could be saved every year which amounts to more than we can save now
> living in the United States on American teacher salaries because we are
> generally so poorly paid in this country. The school is it’s own hillside
> enclave of about 200 acres as you can see on the website, and Mussoorie,
> where it is located is a touristy town of around 5,000 people. Not far from
> Rishikesh if that is helpful for the Beatles fans out there.
>
> I realize for many people the idea of moving to a village in India seems
> crazy even in ideal times.  These are not ideal times. But what an
> opportunity. I’m grappling with it. Any thoughts, advice, suggestions, from
> this wise lot as we contemplate and sift through the pros/cons of doing
> this?
>
> Your wise words and thoughts are most appreciated,
>
> Addison
>
> (In Reno for the time being)
>
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A.
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[RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

2020-03-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

My Gus Boots Wilsen is 1x11, shimano whatever groupset, as built by Riv, 
playing with various set ups. Zero problems as far as I can tell with the 
long chain stays and the 1x. I still would prefer friction shifting, but 
that's me and my fixed gear preference talking. Grin. My tendency is to 
shift 2-4 gears at a go, so I ride it more like a wide-rage 5 speed.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-6, Lithocarpus wrote:
>
> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was 
> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you used, 
> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m 
> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, and 
> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s a 
> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned 
> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long term, 
> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down the 
> road.
>
> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

2020-03-22 Thread lambbo

Addison, DO ITt!!! And take the All Rounder.  I think I've seen pictures of 
a lister who lives by Mount Everest or something, with a Hunq, very 
romantic. 

Anyways, if you don't go now, the recession may entrench you in Reno 
forever (not a bad place to be, but the Woodstock campus looks incredible). 
  Riding out (pun intended) the financial collapse and restructuring of 
American life in India for two years could be really good timing.  Return 
to a better society, with good stories and unique experience! 

 
My parents were traveling around europe (where my dad is from) in the 70s 
and 80s in an experimental touring circus/music act.  They mostly squatted, 
made no money, but have great stories.  Now they're normal small town 
people, and it didn't ruin their chances to give their kids good education 
or buy a house.  The one thing they mention is that they missed out on 
Funk music here, but I think in retrospect that's not so bad!

So, since you're asking, I vote GO and bring your allrounder. 

Safe travels,
Antone



On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 10:05:09 AM UTC-4, Addison wrote:
>
>
> I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.  
> FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both 
> international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private 
> school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year 
> contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious: 
> https://www.woodstockschool.in/
>
> This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems the 
> place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really miss 
> a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.  Side 
> question: I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the himalayas 
> written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody remember the 
> book I may be remembering?
>
> Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match 
> the location right? I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if 
> my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.
>
> The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even 
> take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times. The alarmist 
> is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from 
> the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best, 
> and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to 
> even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the 
> opportunity of a lifetime. Woodstock school is mentioned in some 
> international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a 
> “unicorn school.” Tough to pass up.
>
> Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school 
> district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a 
> crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe, 
> who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the 
> safer move? It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of 
> the job as well. For example, even though the pay is much less, the 
> benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights 
> for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a 
> 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are substantially subsidized, our littlest 
> child would get a nanny and both our kids would get free tuition at the 
> same IB school.  Essentially this means that anywhere from ⅓ to ½ of our 
> pay could be saved every year which amounts to more than we can save now 
> living in the United States on American teacher salaries because we are 
> generally so poorly paid in this country. The school is it’s own hillside 
> enclave of about 200 acres as you can see on the website, and Mussoorie, 
> where it is located is a touristy town of around 5,000 people. Not far from 
> Rishikesh if that is helpful for the Beatles fans out there.
>
> I realize for many people the idea of moving to a village in India seems 
> crazy even in ideal times.  These are not ideal times. But what an 
> opportunity. I’m grappling with it. Any thoughts, advice, suggestions, from 
> this wise lot as we contemplate and sift through the pros/cons of doing 
> this?
>
> Your wise words and thoughts are most appreciated,
>
> Addison
>
> (In Reno for the time being)
>
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Portfolio and Blog 
>

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Re: [RBW] Of Bikes and Bread

2020-03-22 Thread Sean PNW

As a huge fan of both sourdough and stand up comedy I've been loving Tom 
Papa’s recent Youtube videos of how to bake bread.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzOidAJzuiZ8GnVxie-C-sw/videos

They’re fun, accessible, and a really helpful, easy way to learn how to 
make your own bread at home. 

In addition to being a passionate and accomplished sourdough baker, he's a 
great comedian, is the head writer on, and contributes the ‘Out in America’ 
segment of, NPR’s ‘Live From Here’, and his new Netflix special ‘You're 
Doing Great!’ is excellent. 

https://www.livefromhere.org/people/tom-papa

https://www.netflix.com/title/81103777

I highly recommend any and all of the above as so many of us are stuck at 
home and looking for something to distract, educate, or entertain.

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:47:59 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Max, how fantastic! Truly a heartwarming story. You might be able to 
> launch a business during this time of quarantine, and I’m not joking. Most 
> folks don’t bake bread and the grocery store shelves have been bare. You 
> sound like you’ve got it down and can really turn out the loaves. Start a 
> business! 
>
> Charmed, 
> Leah

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[RBW] Re: 1x drivetrain question

I just finished a ride on my 1x kid hauling riv.  I used a IRD mjolnir 
crank, shimano bar end on paul thumbie, and sunrace 11-42 cassette. 9 
speed, friction shifting. works great and i mostly pieced it together from 
stuff i already had, minus the crank. i dont remember if i did any 
calculations for chainline, but id assume that middle ring would be the 
right position. 



On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:15:58 AM UTC-7, Lithocarpus wrote:
>
> I’m considering setting up my MIT Atlantis with a 1x system and was 
> interested to know if anyone here has done this, what components you used, 
> and if the chain stay length caused any complications. So far, I’m 
> considering a 11x50 SunRace cassette, SRAM eagle GX derailleur, chain, and 
> trigger shifter, but am hoping to use my existing Silver crankset. It’s a 
> triple, but I think the middle chainring position would be aligned 
> correctly. If that crank works, I’d likely throw a guard on it. Long term, 
> I’m interested in a White Industries crankset, but that’s further down the 
> road.
>
> What are your experiences ?  Attached image of the current set up. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

You said, " all indications are that it is a pretty solid stable
institution."

1854! Yep, it's stable, alright! It's even older than my alma mater, St.
Joseph's Boy's School in Bangalor, which started in 1858, and which is
still thriving. Good western-type schools are I think a stable, if not
growth, industry in India, for good or ill.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:54 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I recall hearing about Woodstock School almost 60 years ago as a small boy
> at the American International School in New Delhi, because American expats
> moved around so much; we'd get the occasional family of children who'd done
> time at Woodstock -- recall a boy and girl in my 7th grade who'd boarded
> there before moving to Delhi.
>
> It certainly has a storied past, and I expect that such a long-established
> expat hill station is far more than a village, at least "village" in the
> subcontinent sense. There are a collection of top-level schools in
> Mussoorie, apparently.
>
> I see that they've closed for the coronavirus, but if I were a teacher and
> had the opportunity to go there, I'd go; though I certainly would pass on
> Delhi or Calcutta or Bombay or any of the big cities, which are all
> horribly crowded and polluted and expensive.
>
> The usual compensation package for expats in "hardship posts" was a pay
> differential -- I recall 25% or more -- and free housing, schooling,
> medical care, and home leave travel every 2-3 years. Servants were very
> cheap and we had a houseful of good ones. A nanny is an AY-ah. My sister
> recalls regretfully treating her's (and her older sister's) with outrageous
> bossiness for a 6 year old -- something that results from the shadow side
> of the caste system and the very distant remnants of deference to a
> stronger white power -- and something to watch out for. It's funny, small
> Anglo children (and I'm only half that) were treated with deference by
> Indian adults; a dangerous thing. I recall 'scaping whipping at a Jesuit
> school because I was "white."
>
> Me, if I could take only one bike, it would indeed be an all rounder with
> fat tires, and I'd take a tour's supply of tires, tubes, and sealants --
> tho' a few years ago I joined a pan-India cycling discussion group, and the
> conversations indicate that you can get everything from $25 Heros to the
> latest Madone in the bigger cities.
>
> Be prepared for your intestines to take a while to adapt to the local
> baccilli, and stay away from street food until this happens. "Delhi belly."
>
> And learn to pronounce Himalyas as the Indians do: "Hee MAH lyahs.
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:05 AM Addison Wilhite 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.
>> FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both
>> international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private
>> school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year
>> contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious:
>> https://www.woodstockschool.in/
>>
>> This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems
>> the place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really
>> miss a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.
>> Side question: I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the
>> himalayas written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody
>> remember the book I may be remembering?
>>
>> Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match
>> the location right? I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if
>> my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.
>>
>> The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even
>> take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times. The alarmist
>> is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from
>> the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best,
>> and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to
>> even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the
>> opportunity of a lifetime. Woodstock school is mentioned in some
>> international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a
>> “unicorn school.” Tough to pass up.
>>
>> Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school
>> district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a
>> crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe,
>> who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the
>> safer move? It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of
>> the job as well. For example, even though the pay is much less, the
>> benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights
>> for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a
>> 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are

Re: [RBW] Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

I recall hearing about Woodstock School almost 60 years ago as a small boy
at the American International School in New Delhi, because American expats
moved around so much; we'd get the occasional family of children who'd done
time at Woodstock -- recall a boy and girl in my 7th grade who'd boarded
there before moving to Delhi.

It certainly has a storied past, and I expect that such a long-established
expat hill station is far more than a village, at least "village" in the
subcontinent sense. There are a collection of top-level schools in
Mussoorie, apparently.

I see that they've closed for the coronavirus, but if I were a teacher and
had the opportunity to go there, I'd go; though I certainly would pass on
Delhi or Calcutta or Bombay or any of the big cities, which are all
horribly crowded and polluted and expensive.

The usual compensation package for expats in "hardship posts" was a pay
differential -- I recall 25% or more -- and free housing, schooling,
medical care, and home leave travel every 2-3 years. Servants were very
cheap and we had a houseful of good ones. A nanny is an AY-ah. My sister
recalls regretfully treating her's (and her older sister's) with outrageous
bossiness for a 6 year old -- something that results from the shadow side
of the caste system and the very distant remnants of deference to a
stronger white power -- and something to watch out for. It's funny, small
Anglo children (and I'm only half that) were treated with deference by
Indian adults; a dangerous thing. I recall 'scaping whipping at a Jesuit
school because I was "white."

Me, if I could take only one bike, it would indeed be an all rounder with
fat tires, and I'd take a tour's supply of tires, tubes, and sealants --
tho' a few years ago I joined a pan-India cycling discussion group, and the
conversations indicate that you can get everything from $25 Heros to the
latest Madone in the bigger cities.

Be prepared for your intestines to take a while to adapt to the local
baccilli, and stay away from street food until this happens. "Delhi belly."

And learn to pronounce Himalyas as the Indians do: "Hee MAH lyahs.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 8:05 AM Addison Wilhite 
wrote:

>
> I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.
> FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both
> international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private
> school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year
> contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious:
> https://www.woodstockschool.in/
>
> This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems the
> place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really miss
> a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.  Side
> question: I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the himalayas
> written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody remember the
> book I may be remembering?
>
> Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match
> the location right? I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if
> my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.
>
> The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even
> take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times. The alarmist
> is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from
> the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best,
> and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to
> even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the
> opportunity of a lifetime. Woodstock school is mentioned in some
> international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a
> “unicorn school.” Tough to pass up.
>
> Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school
> district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a
> crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe,
> who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the
> safer move? It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of
> the job as well. For example, even though the pay is much less, the
> benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights
> for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a
> 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are substantially subsidized, our littlest
> child would get a nanny and both our kids would get free tuition at the
> same IB school.  Essentially this means that anywhere from ⅓ to ½ of our
> pay could be saved every year which amounts to more than we can save now
> living in the United States on American teacher salaries because we are
> generally so poorly paid in this country. The school is it’s own hillside
> enclave of about 200 acres as you can see on the website, and Mussoorie,
> where it is located is a

[RBW] Re: Semi OT post? - What bike would you take to the Himalayan foothills? And would you even go?

2020-03-22 Thread Julian Westerhout

Addison, 

I say go! 

Is the book you're thinking of Lands of Lost Borders by Kate Harris? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:05:09 AM UTC-5, Addison wrote:
>
>
> I hope you all will indulge me in this dilemma my wife and I are facing.  
> FIrst the on topic part of the question. My wife and I are both 
> international educators and have been offered positions at an elite private 
> school in Mussoorie, India, for the next school year (it’s a two year 
> contract).  Here is the school’s website if curious: 
> https://www.woodstockschool.in/
>
> This place is pretty amazing and has a long storied history.  It seems the 
> place to have my Rivendell AllRounder and a mountain bike.  I’d really miss 
> a roadie style bike but there is a limit to how much we could take.  Side 
> question: I’m remembering reading a great book on touring in the himalayas 
> written by a young woman but can’t seem to find it.  Anybody remember the 
> book I may be remembering?
>
> Anyway, which bike would you take to such a place?  The tool should match 
> the location right? I sure would miss my Della Santa though.  Wondering if 
> my fatter tired DS (it takes a 33 width tire) might be worth taking.
>
> The real dilemma is with the current state of the world, would you even 
> take the job and go.  We are in strangely unprecedented times. The alarmist 
> is me feels like getting there when we currently are at a level “4” from 
> the US State Dept and perhaps on the cusp of a global recession at best, 
> and perhaps a full blown depression, makes this an incredibly tough move to 
> even consider.  The adventurer world educator in me thinks this is the 
> opportunity of a lifetime. Woodstock school is mentioned in some 
> international educator circles as the “dream school” to work at and a 
> “unicorn school.” Tough to pass up.
>
> Staying here in Reno where my wife and I both hold jobs in the school 
> district that are guaranteed/contract jobs with a pension plan (albeit a 
> crappy district and a not great pension plan) is the safe option (maybe, 
> who knows in these times).  Or perhaps a remote village in India is the 
> safer move? It’s a different perspective on life and benefits in terms of 
> the job as well. For example, even though the pay is much less, the 
> benefits include free housing and all utilities on campus, annual flights 
> for the whole family back to the US, free healthcare/insurance (there is a 
> 24 hour clinic on campus), meals are substantially subsidized, our littlest 
> child would get a nanny and both our kids would get free tuition at the 
> same IB school.  Essentially this means that anywhere from ⅓ to ½ of our 
> pay could be saved every year which amounts to more than we can save now 
> living in the United States on American teacher salaries because we are 
> generally so poorly paid in this country. The school is it’s own hillside 
> enclave of about 200 acres as you can see on the website, and Mussoorie, 
> where it is located is a touristy town of around 5,000 people. Not far from 
> Rishikesh if that is helpful for the Beatles fans out there.
>
> I realize for many people the idea of moving to a village in India seems 
> crazy even in ideal times.  These are not ideal times. But what an 
> opportunity. I’m grappling with it. Any thoughts, advice, suggestions, from 
> this wise lot as we contemplate and sift through the pros/cons of doing 
> this?
>
> Your wise words and thoughts are most appreciated,
>
> Addison
>
> (In Reno for the time being)
>
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Portfolio and Blog 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

2020-03-22 Thread Alan Pickett

Joe's mention of his Stingray reminded me of this: in 1977 I was living in 
Charleston WV and had a yellow Schwinn Stingray. Black banana seat and 
those high, high "monkey bars". Behind our house, there was a church, and 
we would often ride our bikes in the parking lot, bunny hopping, and 
jumping off the edge of the asphalt, which dropped sharply about 2.5-3ft as 
it transitioned into an undeveloped, weedy and rock-strewn lot. I don't 
know what inspired me, but I got it in my head that if secured my mom's 
large umbrella to the very back of the seat (in addition to the seat post, 
there was a long, vertical arc of cheap metal that attached at the rear 
drop-outs and rose up to stabilize the seat), I might perhaps sail loftily 
over the drop-off, momentarily weightless, and alight gracefully to the 
weed-lot below. Needless to say, my vision, as well as my bike and I, came 
crashing down, as the umbrella only served to produce enough drag to keep 
my rear-end up, briefly holding my bike in a nose-dive position before I 
was severely re-introduced to terra-firma. Hey, at least I had a dream!

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 11:40:51 AM UTC-4, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
> Video was hilarious.  Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 10:36 AM Leah Peterson  > wrote:
>
>> I have loved this thread; it really has been so instructive and also - 
>> please don’t take offense - entertaining. 
>>
>> I now have a name for those yellow things in the road (“road turtles”) 
>> and know that I should never get near them in the rain. I will never, ever 
>> race my best friend lest she turn her bike in front of me and send me 
>> flying. I will certainly never attempt a wheelie. 
>>
>> In all seriousness, these stories as well as the COVID pandemic have made 
>> me more careful - now is not a good time to need a hospital. I usually ride 
>> helmet-free but I’ve been wearing one more often just as an extra layer of 
>> safety. Helmets come with certain annoyances, particularly for women, and 
>> because I can’t ever just be serious, I catalogued it in the video below. 
>>
>> I don’t have a crash story to contribute, but what I have I give to you. 
>> Also, don’t we just need to laugh these days? 
>>
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>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:46 AM, SurlyProf > 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Reading about all of these injuries and browsing X-rays makes me realize 
>> how lucky I've been in my 45-50 years of riding a bike.  In all that time, 
>> I've only been in 3 crashes (all, of course, involving cars with clueless 
>> drivers). 
>>
>> In the '80's, I bought my first really nice "Italian" bike at a sidewalk 
>> sale in Huntington Beach (1/2 price!).  I'd been out of college for a year 
>> or so and hadn't owned a bike since my last one was stolen freshman year.  
>> It was an '86 Bertoni Corsa Mondiale in metallic lavender (in Italian they 
>> called it, "God-awful purple").  Loved that bike but thought it might have 
>> been cursed.  Within a month or two I had two crashes in the same weekend!  
>> The first happened as I was riding down in the Newport/Balboa area.  I was 
>> probably cruising at 25+ mph when I was passed by a van.  The van barely 
>> went another city block when it took a right turn in front of me.  I hit 
>> the brakes and slid the bike sideways like I was doing a hockey stop.  I 
>> must have hit the side of that van at 10 mph.  The whole incident seemed to 
>> happen in slow motion.  I even remember the fear in the elderly woman's 
>> face as I slammed into the van right next to her.  Looked like a couple 
>> driving their in-laws around the area.  I'm sure this incident made an 
>> impression as I did given the huge Wile E. Coyote-shaped dent I put in 
>> their side.  They slowed and saw that I was still on the bike and, I guess, 
>> assumed I was OK and drove off.  I quickly unclipped and put a foot down 
>> and then heard the lunchtime host at the restaurant on the corner where it 
>> happen say (in a fantastic Jeff Spicolli voice), "Du-u-u-de... I can't 
>> believe you stayed on the bike!"
>>
>> The next day I went out for an easy ride to loosen up my severely bruised 
>> hip and shoulder and was right-hooked by a pick up truck.  That time, I was 
>> not so lucky.  I flew over the handlebars onto the pavement as I heard the 
>> squealing of tires as they tore off.  My rear wheel was completely taco-ed 
>> which I didn't bother repairing for at least a month since I thought the

Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

2020-03-22 Thread masmojo

Leah, I have a similar helmet problem only worse because I have no hair! I 
just have a really tall Head, If you see me with a helmet It looks like 
I've got a sticky bun up in there, maybe my wallet, BUT I don't!!!

It's a bit like a cross between Lex Luthor & Homer Simpson with a Helmet on 
(if you can imagine), Giro's tend to fit me OK and don't look too goofy, 
but Bell's?? NO they don't fit!!!

Well, I typically avoid the helmets unless, I am riding a drop bar bike, 
then it's automatic! With the body so far forward the head (or face) is 
going to make first contact!

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