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Re: [RBW] Re: Is an Atlantis Worth It?

2024-05-22 Thread Brian Turner

I have always wanted to own an Atlantis or an All Rounder. Since like, the 
early to mid 2000s. To me, they were the quintessential Rivendell bikes to own. 
I loved the timeless, classic look and have always loved touring bikes built 
for whatever. However, the current version of the Atlantis does not hold the 
same appeal to me as those classic Rivs did. That’s why I searched for an older 
model that I’m very happy to have found.

Brian
Lexington KY

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Re: ThRe: [RBW] ISO: Toyo Atlantis 56-58cm/26"

2024-05-17 Thread Brian Turner

Best of luck! I feel very fortunate to have found my 54.5cm, 26” Toyo last year 
and it has been a real joy to ride. Being on the shorter side (5’8”, 83 PBH), 
I’ve always appreciated the frames designed around a smaller wheelset, and you 
can’t beat 26” for that lively handling and bombproof wheel strength. I could 
easily ride a 56cm, and wouldn’t hesitate to pick up another if I were to ever 
find a good opportunity in that size as well.

Brian
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Re: [RBW] Re: Love to Ride: Commuter Challenge

2024-05-17 Thread Brian Turner

Thanks for sharing this, Leah! I was delighted to see that the Rivendell owner in the photos is wearing a t-shirt that I designed for the local brewery I do all the graphic design for (West Sixth Brewing in Lexington KY). The shirt says “Ride bikes, drink beer”, and features a simple illustration of the brewery’s Cetma cargo bakfiets that was custom built into a mobile bike bar with a beer tap on it! Small world!BrianLexington KY On May 17, 2024, at 8:01 AM, Ryan wrote:That's brilliant Leah! If anyone csn sell people on riding bikes for daily activities, it's you! Good on ya!On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:18:49 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:My love for my new home state is well-documented. After 18 years of desert living, we moved to Michigan, where none of us Petersons had set foot prior to the job interview. I have finally found a biking community, right here in a state that has winter. Anyway, I got asked to be on a committee that would help launch a new initiative to get more people on bikes. There is a lot of lovely new infrastructure in downtown, and we are hoping to get people to use it to get to work/events/dining/shopping. We are using the app Love to Ride, which will allow people in the city and surrounding areas to sign up, join the challenge and compete against other people for a 2 week challenge in May. The city is eager to have the data that the heat maps will generate, showing where people are riding and where they are not. Hopefully this influences further infrastructure in the near future.Today there was a local news article, and one of the men I’m serving with is pictured with his RIVENDELL. Paul’s brother John Sotherland built the Rivendell frames at Waterford back in…whatever day that was. I almost never saw other Rivs in the other places I’ve lived, but Michigan has plenty of them.Here’s the article: https://www.secondwavemedia.com/southwest-michigan/features/Kalamazoo-Commuter-Challenge-encourage-new-cyclists.051624.aspxLeah

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Droptube Rivendell Custom 54cm

2024-05-09 Thread Brian Turner

To me, this bike looks very, very similar to the last production run of the 
Roscoe Bubbe, but with fancier lugs and a slightly longer wheelbase. What if 
you were to find one of those in your size, sell both the custom and the Clem, 
then you’d perhaps have a Riv that combines the elements of both?

Brian
Lex KY 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

2024-05-06 Thread Brian Turner

Thank you, John & Keith!

-Brian
Lex KY

On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 6:35 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> Beautiful photograph, Brian! Great light, gorgeous setting, and stunning
> bike.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 12:47:51 PM UTC-7 Brian Turner wrote:
>
>> I started out aiming for a decently long ride yesterday, but found myself
>> scoping out birding spots in the woods with my buddy (and fellow RBWOB
>> group member Huston). No complaints here.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Spring 2024 Photos

2024-05-05 Thread Brian Turner

Nice Gus! This thread can always use more Gus pics!

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[RBW] Re: FS: spring parts bin clean-out

2024-05-03 Thread Brian Turner

UPDATE!!! Most things have sold (thanks everyone!), and I've lowered the 
price on a few of the things remaining. Shoot me an email if you're 
interested in anything that's left!

Mavic 26” single speed wheel set = $150
Silver D521 SUP rims (36h), front XT hub, rear Surly free/free hub (135mm), 
QR

Honjo Koken 26” hammered fender set w/ hardware (45mm wide) = $35

Brooks B66 honey sprung saddle (double rails) = $100
*could be used with the new Brooks double rail adapter!

4 rolls of “grass green” Newbaums bar tape = $10

Tubus Nova stainless front lowrider rack = SOLD

Nitto FU-82 Periscopa quill stem = SOLD

Nitto S65 seatpost (27.2) = SOLD

Gilles Berthoud bar-end mirror (black) = SOLD

Soma Champs Elysees front rack = SOLD

King Cage (robin’s egg blue Cerakote) = SOLD

Minoura Dura Cage bottle cage pair (red anodized) = SOLD

Knit leather gloves (not GOAT), slightly padded, XL = SOLD

PHOTOS HERE 

Thanks for looking!
Brian
Lex KY

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[RBW] Re: FS: spring parts bin clean-out

2024-05-02 Thread Brian Turner

Here’s an update on what has sold today, and what is still available. 
Thanks to everyone for looking!

Tubus Nova stainless front lowrider rack = SOLD

Nitto FU-82 Periscopa quill stem = SOLD
25.4 clamp, 80mm extension, 22.2 quill, 30 deg. rise, 120 quill length

Nitto S65 seatpost (27.2) = PENDING

Brooks B66 honey sprung saddle (double rails) = $120
*could be used with the new Brooks double rail adapter!

Gilles Berthoud bar-end mirror (black) = SOLD

Soma Champs Elysees front rack = SOLD

King Cage (robin’s egg blue Cerakote) = SOLD

Minoura Dura Cage bottle cage pair (red anodized) = SOLD

4 rolls of “grass green” Newbaums bar tape = $15

Mavic 26” single speed wheel set = $150
Silver D521 SUP rims (36h), front XT hub, rear Surly free/free hub (135mm), 
QR

Honjo Koken 26” hammered fender set w/ hardware (45mm wide) = $40

Knit leather gloves (not GOAT), slightly padded, XL = SOLD

PHOTOS HERE 

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[RBW] Re: FS: spring parts bin clean-out

2024-05-02 Thread Brian Turner

UPDATE:
The Nitto S65 post, Soma front rack, Periscopa stem, and Minoura cages are 
all PENDING currently.


On Thursday, May 2, 2024 at 12:43:03 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

King Cage, gloves, and Berthoud mirror have sold. Nitto Seatpost is 
pending. Below is the updated list:

Tubus Nova stainless front lowrider rack = $80

Nitto FU-82 Periscopa quill stem = $35 (PENDING)
25.4 clamp, 80mm extension, 22.2 quill, 30 deg. rise, 120 quill length

Nitto S65 seatpost (27.2) = $40 (PENDING)

Brooks B66 honey sprung saddle (double rails) = $120
*could be used with the new Brooks double rail adapter!

Gilles Berthoud bar-end mirror (black) = SOLD

Soma Champs Elysees front rack = $40 (PENDING)

King Cage (robin’s egg blue Cerakote) = SOLD

Minoura Dura Cage bottle cage pair (red anodized) = $10 (PENDING)

4 rolls of “grass green” Newbaums bar tape = $15

Mavic 26” single speed wheel set = $150
Silver D521 SUP rims (36h), front XT hub, rear Surly free/free hub (135mm), 
QR

Honjo Koken 26” hammered fender set w/ hardware (45mm wide) = $40

Knit leather gloves (not GOAT), slightly padded, XL = SOLD

PHOTOS HERE <https://photos.app.goo.gl/K3kywZssMUPTsqo99>

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[RBW] Re: FS: spring parts bin clean-out

2024-05-02 Thread Brian Turner

King Cage, gloves, and Berthoud mirror have sold. Nitto Seatpost is 
pending. Below is the updated list:

Tubus Nova stainless front lowrider rack = $80

Nitto FU-82 Periscopa quill stem = $35
25.4 clamp, 80mm extension, 22.2 quill, 30 deg. rise, 120 quill length

Nitto S65 seatpost (27.2) = $40

Brooks B66 honey sprung saddle (double rails) = $120
*could be used with the new Brooks double rail adapter!

Gilles Berthoud bar-end mirror (black) = SOLD

Soma Champs Elysees front rack = $40

King Cage (robin’s egg blue Cerakote) = SOLD

Minoura Dura Cage bottle cage pair (red anodized) = $10

4 rolls of “grass green” Newbaums bar tape = $15

Mavic 26” single speed wheel set = $150
Silver D521 SUP rims (36h), front XT hub, rear Surly free/free hub (135mm), 
QR

Honjo Koken 26” hammered fender set w/ hardware (45mm wide) = $40

Knit leather gloves (not GOAT), slightly padded, XL = SOLD

PHOTOS HERE 

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[RBW] FS: spring parts bin clean-out

2024-05-02 Thread Brian Turner

Hey everyone! Here’s a list of a bunch of things I’m trying to clear out. 
Send me a private message if you’re interested and we can work out shipping 
costs. Venmo preferred, but will accept PayPal also.

Tubus Nova stainless front lowrider rack = $80

Nitto FU-82 Periscopa quill stem = $35
25.4 clamp, 80mm extension, 22.2 quill, 30 deg. rise, 120 quill length

Nitto S65 seatpost (27.2) = $40

Brooks B66 honey sprung saddle (double rails) = $120
*could be used with the new Brooks double rail adapter!

Gilles Berthoud bar-end mirror (black) = $65

Soma Champs Elysees front rack = $40

King Cage (robin’s egg blue Cerakote) = $15

Minoura Dura Cage bottle cage pair (red anodized) = $10

4 rolls of “grass green” Newbaums bar tape = $15

Mavic 26” single speed wheel set = $150
Silver D521 SUP rims (36h), front XT hub, rear Surly free/free hub (135mm), 
QR

Honjo Koken 26” hammered fender set w/ hardware (45mm wide) = $40

Knit leather gloves (not GOAT), slightly padded, XL = $10

PHOTOS HERE 

Thanks for looking!
Brian
Lex KY 


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Re: [RBW] Cockpit bag/cup holder

2024-04-29 Thread Brian Turner

Another vote for Randi Jo’s Bartender (specifically her “Plus” model because it has an extra external pocket - I sometimes fit my iPhone in there when other stuff is in the main compartment):Bartender Plusrandijofab.comOn Apr 29, 2024, at 5:24 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:This one:Mountain Feedbag - Cockpitrevelatedesigns.com
--Eric Norriscampyonly...@me.comInsta: @CampyOnlyGuyYouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy

On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:46 PM, James wrote:What is the best cockpit cup holder ya'll have explored and used? Ideally it could alos hold a phone at times, and be somewhat versatile with cups, bottles, etc.

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2024-04-26 Thread Brian Turner

Josh- Thanks! the Toyo serial numbers for Atlantis should start with the 
abbreviation “AT”, followed by maybe 4 digits? Mine reads across the bottom f 
the BB shell, whereas Waterfords are usually longer serial codes and read along 
the edge of one side. Also, Waterfords may be stamped “Rivendell” or 
“Waterford”.

Hopefully others here can either confirm or dispute my info regarding this.

Brian
Lex KY 

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 1:40 PM, Josh C  wrote:
> 
> Killer setup, Brian. Looks similar to my Toyo. BTW how can you tell from the 
> serial number? 

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil camping trip

2024-04-26 Thread Brian Turner

Love your photos, as always… made even better with descriptive ride reports!On Apr 26, 2024, at 10:07 AM, John  wrote:Thanks for sharing! Your Bombadil looks good out there haulin'. I would absolutely love to get myself and a bike out to Vancouver island someday.John in Minnesota



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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-20 Thread Brian Turner

I would go with a Roadini, with maybe a Homer or Sam as a second option.On Apr 20, 2024, at 5:42 PM, George Schick wrote:No problem. But the thing is that I have a bike(s) that I could let her ride to see if she could adapt to a "road bike" frame. And I "think" I have ones closed to that dimension that I would be happy to let her test ride to see if they'd work.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:26:41 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:Sorry @George, I did not mean to come off as rude. The 81 PBH detail just stood out because I seem to recall Leah is around my own height of 5'6''-5'7'' ...but vastly younger (I'm 71) and vastly fitter , of course. So I had to go to my own Riv stud books to see what my PBH was...shortish torso, longer legs and see why Grant put me on a 56 frame. The Rossin for comparison was 53 or 54 and my allrounder was 54. GP would size up for a road frame, as I recallOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:18:33 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:Actually, what I was more interested in was her stand over height (SOH). Riding a regular road frame bike would require whether or not one could "stand over" the bike's top tube without discomfort. Riv gives the specifics for various past models for this measurement.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:12:07 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:Ryan - sorry. I don't always see things as clearly with my aged ready-for-cataract surgery eyeballs. Nevertheless, it bears repeating.On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:06:11 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:81 PBH was mentionedOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 4:04:52 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:There ya go Leah!...Put yourself in Bill's more-than-capable hands and you won't go wrong!On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 3:51:55 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:LeahMy previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike. After selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was the deal of the century, IMO. The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c randonneuse. Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my best-ever brevet time was on that bike. So I think it's doable. The newer batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie". I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had at a really good price. Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your personal shopper. :)Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up with an albastache build, which may ease you in. Also, having a placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and then you'll have both! Do let me know if you want more adviceBill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be ideal. Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before. I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m the youngest and probably the most fit. Leah

Re: [RBW] TPU inner tubes - Anyone using them?

2024-04-20 Thread Brian Turner

Steve, are you using them on your Riv or another bike? I was under the impression that TPU tubes were recommended for disc brakes only - I assume due to the heat generated by rim brakes? I’m curious about them, but don’t really have the right application for them in my stable.BrianLex KY On Apr 19, 2024, at 10:41 PM, Steve wrote:Last evening I mounted a pair of WTB TPU inner tubes under 700c x 48mm knobby RH tires. I was pleasantly surprised by how easily they mounted up with just enough inflation to plump them a bit. Easier than any butyl tubes I've ever used. Today I took the bike out on my usual graveled forest service road route, bleeding the front end down from 27 to 25 psi about 1/2 into the ride My first impression is that they compare favorably to the ride feel of a tubeless setup. Before I sip the kool aid and start buying more of these things - given the cost - I'm wondering if anyone has had long term experience with them (not necessarily the WTB version). Any punctures, did they patch satisfactorily? Longevity? Your impressions of the quality? I'll add that they dropped about 200 grams of ugly fat from the wheels - but that wasn't my main objective.Steve

[RBW] Re: Sizing question for "in between" PBH measurement

2024-04-18 Thread Brian Turner

I agree with Johnny. Think about how you mostly want this bike set up and 
size accordingly. You had mentioned wanting an Albatross bar setup, so if 
it were me, I would go with the 54cm and longer top tube that will play 
nicely with the swept-back bars and longer stem required for said bars. I 
also have a PBH that's between 83-84, even though I'm a little shorter than 
you. If I were buying a new Sam, I would purchase the 54cm size, and I 
would probably also run some sort of swept-back cockpit. I already have a 
drop bar Riv, and a fat-tired Riv, and those are the only two factors that 
would make me want to size down to a 51cm.

Brian
Lex KY

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:40:27 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I am between sizes as well and my general rule is...if I want a more 
> traditional setup/fit (maybe with drop bars) I size down. If I want to go 
> laid back, more sweptback style I go up. With your PBH if you want drops go 
> with the 51 otherwise the 54 might be best. If you want to size up but the 
> standover gives you pause then consider a Platypus. I understand the advice 
> to call Rivendell but (from my experience) they are almost always going to 
> push you into a go larger direction and that has not historically always 
> worked for me.
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:20:35 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Oooh, a new Sam - exciting!
>>
>> 1) Send Riv an email and get their recommendation, they're great with 
>> this stuff.
>>
>> 2) I'm a similar height but have an 87cm PBH. With your torso length I'm 
>> guessing you'll want more reach, the concern is the standover on the 54cm 
>> Sam if you max out the tires. Either way you'll probably want a long stem 
>> on that Albatross. My 58cm top tube Albatross bike has a 120mm stem. The 
>> drop tube bikes (Susie, Platypus, Clem) are great for getting a longer fit 
>> without worrying about standover; I'm on a 60cm Platypus and the reach is 
>> luxurious.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:43:16 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:
>>
>>> Haven't had luck pinning down a used bike this last week, so I'm 
>>> thinking I might try and buy a new Sam in May/June with the refresh and I 
>>> don't know if the 51 or 54 frame size is the right choice. Compared to my 
>>> current bike, a 55cm Salsa Vaya's standover of 77.6cm and top tube of 
>>> 55cm...
>>>
>>> 51 Sam standover: 78.6 (+1cm from Vaya)
>>> 51 Sam top tube: 56.5 (+1.5cm from Vaya) 
>>>
>>> 54 Sam standover: 82.0 (+4.4cm from Vaya) 
>>> 54 Sam top tube:  58 (+3cm from Vaya) 
>>>
>>> An 83.8 PBH was the highest measurement out of the 10 or so times I 
>>> measured. Most of the time it was 81.2 - 82.5 range. I'm 5'11 with a 30" 
>>> inseam. Riv says a 51 Sam is 79-83 and a 54 is 83-86. 
>>>
>>> I would like to run Albatross bars and be comfy about it. 
>>>
>>> Which frame size should I choose? 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Nitto/Riv Bullmoose thoughts

2024-04-18 Thread Brian Turner

bullmoose bars certainly look cool and have the extra stiffness that's 
often welcomed for trail riding... but as others have mentioned, the 
biggest downside is the lack of adjustability. The specifics of the bars 
have to pretty much match what is needed for your position on the bike, 
give or take the slight height adjustment ability. For example, I recently 
acquired a set of Tosco-moose bars from another member here, and I had long 
been searching for these for my Gus. The length matched the stem length I'd 
been using on my standard Tosco bars and Ron's Ortho bars but I miss just a 
slight bit of downward angle adjustment that I had with a standard stem. 
It's not enough to make them uncomfortable, but it's something to consider.

Brian
Lex KY

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Re: [RBW] Re: Long Chainstays - What Problem/Deficiency Do They Solve?

2024-04-03 Thread Brian Turner

hot dogs vs. corn dogsOn Apr 3, 2024, at 8:54 AM, Steve  wrote:How about "Spaghetti vs Macaroni" ?On Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 6:21:28 AM UTC-4 Ryan Ogilvie wrote:What are long chain stays in this metaphor? :-)Sent from my mobile device. On Apr 2, 2024, at 11:26 PM, fiddl...@gmail.com  wrote:Ribeye vs Burger: both get the same job done in different ways…neither is a bad way to goOn Sunday, March 31, 2024 at 1:50:18 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak, Woodstown NJ wrote:Enjoyed reading the thread "Anyone else not a fan of long chainstays?", especially Bill L's explanation of the RBW bike design philosophy.   Seems the prevailing thought is long stays are better forupright ridingsingle track type trails (vs a Rails to Trails type trail)I'll just note 2 'facts'1  The vast majority of RBW models (except the Roadeo type frame) use slack STA and HTA which may contribute to the ride effect when coupled with long stays.2.  In the beginning RBW addressed getting the bars higher and adopting a non-racer riding style (back at 45° with hands on hoods), which IMHO were solutions to actual problems.So What problem or current deficiency in bike design is Grant solving by using long chain staysJust to bring bikes to market that no one else is building??Or do they solve a real problem???John HawrylakWoodstown NJFWIW 2 of 3 of my frames have 44 to 45cm chain stays, and 1 has a 43cm chain stay.    It's hard to notice a ride difference.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about rear brake cable housing routing with low friction on a Clem

2024-04-01 Thread Brian Turner

Personally, I’d leave as-is. Aesthetically, I wouldn’t want another unsightly, 
unnecessary piece of hardware detracting from that beautiful seat lug and 
already perfectly functional binder bolt. But then again, some people enjoy 
adding extraneous gizmos to their bikes.

Brian
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-03-29 Thread Brian Turner

…again with the sellers not listing the most important detail, SIZE! Drives me crazy!!!On Mar 28, 2024, at 10:35 PM, Jerry Lynn wrote:Braxton Touring frameset for 26" wheelshttps://www.ebay.com/itm/276402295373?itmmeta=01HT404K5KWWPDF3HZ5659CXZ0=item405adc524d:g:YQwAAOSwCnRmBfAM"This is beautiful lugged steel frame handmade in Missoula Montana USA, by the artisan frame builders at BRAXTON bikes. Bottom bracket has 0540 stamped in. Probably the production number. I haven’t had the chance to research this too much. This model features a built-in rear rack. Sexy René Herse cranks arms and chain ring. King headset. And Thompson Elite seat post.Frame and fork construction is made by the award winning Reynolds 531 tubing. The original factory paint is a deep dark blue (almost black) there is metal flake in this color so in the sunlight it’s quite stunning."On Thursday 28 March 2024 at 15:05:06 UTC-7 Josh C wrote:62cm Betty Foy https://austin.craigslist.org/bik/d/austin-rivendell-betty-foy/7731921905.htmlOn Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 2:57:21 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:59cm Bleriot over on the facebook groupLittle bit of Beausage, but looks nice! On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 12:16:13 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:Asking prices are just exercises in first-amendment rights.>>
I see very basic build [..] going for $2k or more.Not often you don't. The ones you see on Craigs or FB ain't went yet.Problem is, many sellers don't understand that and basically wind up driving each other's pricing higher.On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 10:41:53 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:At least that Atlantis has some nice bits on it, Paul, velocity, and the like. I see very basic builds, where I'd want to swap almost everything out, going for $2K or more.On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 8:31:42 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:This bike is only one million dollars, see honey, I'm trying! Joe you nailed it. On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 10:25:11 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:Hahahaha yeah, that makes sense, Joe On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 10:14:51 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:I call it "spouse/SO says I have to sell" pricing. Somehow it never sells! On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 9:48:01 PM UTC-7 jonathan@gmail.com wrote:iirc the pricing was even worse the last time they listed it. sad to seeOn Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 8:17:37 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:That 51 on CL Seattle: pricing is nuts. Seems like a common theme with Rivs for sale. On Sunday, March 24, 2024 at 1:25:55 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:The 51cm Atlantis from Seattle that Matti posted is a newer style MIT Atlantis made for 650b wheels. While I still think the one in question is possibly also a 51cm, it’s a Toyo model made for 26” wheels. My frame of reference is usually the amount of headtube space between the top tube and down tube. If there’s a pump peg, that gives you an even better reference point for eyeing up the size of a frame.

Re: [RBW] Drop Bombadil in the depths of the Old Forest

2024-03-28 Thread Brian Turner



One of my favorite Rivs on the internet! Looks right at home with the drops and 
ready for ruff stuff. How short of a stem did it take to get a comfortable 
reach?

-Brian

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-03-24 Thread Brian Turner

The 51cm Atlantis from Seattle that Matti posted is a newer style MIT Atlantis 
made for 650b wheels. While I still think the one in question is possibly also 
a 51cm, it’s a Toyo model made for 26” wheels. My frame of reference is usually 
the amount of headtube space between the top tube and down tube. If there’s a 
pump peg, that gives you an even better reference point for eyeing up the size 
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

2024-03-24 Thread Brian Turner

My guess is 51cm. It’s definitely not a 54.5cm (that’s the size I have).I’m always suspicious of sellers who can’t bother to accurately list a frame’s size when they’re trying to sell it. I’m my mind, that’s the ONE detail you absolutely need to have. But then again, a seller who doesn’t know to include that may also be the type of seller you could get a really good deal from if they aren’t a bike person.On Mar 24, 2024, at 9:47 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:Any guesses as to the size of this early Atlantis? My eye can't tell if it's 52 or 54cm, I'm fairly certain it's not a 50. On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-7 jerry...@gmail.com wrote:*Not mine and no affiliation, just a shame for me it's not a 56 or 58cm.Rivendell Atlantis 2, serial #2 - $1,000 (Santa Cruz)https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-atlantis-serial/7730132678.htmlOn Friday 22 March 2024 at 09:35:54 UTC-7 maxcr wrote:PSA: beautiful green 58cm Rambouillet in the FB riv buy/sell group.No connections to the seller and they don't seem to know their asking price yet, but if you've been looking for one, this one looks great!On Friday, March 22, 2024 at 9:56:55 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:Btw, the Reston (VA) Homer is now down to $2,500.https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/reston-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7726857824.htmlOn Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:That Reston Homer is nicely appointed and a good deal for someone right for a 47cm!On Thursday, March 21, 2024 at 9:43:22 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:Your patience continues to earn you money.  Now the price is down to $6000.  Wait until September and you'll get paid to take it.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Friday, March 15, 2024 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:I love a bargain On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 7:40:48 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:It's on special offer now to those of us who are watching it.  Now avaiable for the low low price of $6250.  Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 9:59:37 AM UTC-7 LBleriot wrote:Yikes!  I would love to add a Heron Touring to go with my Road, but this Ebay listing is kind of a silly way to solicit real offers.On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 12:26:30 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:Obviously the Chris King Headset Composite Index has gone through the roof.On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:wowOn Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:33:10 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:$7000  In a word, HA!  At least they are taking offers...  BL in ECOn Monday, March 11, 2024 at 12:28:26 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:Heron Touring 55cm$7000Walled Lake, MichiganRare rare rare parts like Titanium Chris King headset, Nitto racks, and full Campagnolo...https://www.ebay.com/itm/176156925449?itmmeta=01HRQFP37XW2ZW9W57MX91XV8H=item2903c55e09:g:1-QAAOSwlT9le1Vr=enc%3AAQAI4A7jbJYmJLb0qhGidg8sdvoie5vcUpIvYrS%2BSMvrLJLvPiSDvKpjMsaHlJTCd1soc%2BS7lyI3DhBCJIMPjYbsw%2Bz2jx3FF1A8HaYOsrSGCGDojnJMNqrJC9m0GJvRkaVV7ejS4wIjNmkGPkl5PLpOEQlbXY8ub8%2FhPJelndP333HN%2B5YXfIBsGZBcK%2BedK1MLmQWY7kHqX4c4AzxDVzG%2B1rJVrllsTotNUBw2pKEhm%2BQDzzEV4sTfCquOQ0jScQhSElZQaXk3KjAGccNhRMGhT54kCgPjyFiebEPpJtvqbTfN%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4C02O_FYwOn Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 5:36:38 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:Roadini57cm2000Emeryville, CAhttps://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-leo-roadini/7720529232.html



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Re: [RBW] Re: anyone else tried Ritchey Beacon Bars?

2024-03-22 Thread Brian Turner

I replaced 48cm Cowchippers on my Crust Bombora with 52cm Ritchey Beacons… I love them! The wide, shallow drop position is very comfortable and gives me a lot of control on rough terrain.On Mar 22, 2024, at 3:39 PM, DavidP wrote:Great that the Roadini is working out so well for your son (and wife)!I have the wider XL version (52cm at the hoods, 67cm at the ends) on my drop bar Jones 29er, which is setup with the drops as the primary position (my bars are set just a bit lower than your son's). Despite the amount of flare I find they are comfortable on the hoods also.My more roadish gravel bike has a 46cm Salsa Cowchipper.-DaveOn Friday, March 22, 2024 at 3:08:16 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:I built up my son's Roadini with Ritchey Beacon Comp bars (https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/Hdny6ViFROaPcQIM_FkEbg.aW9haXdpnlfOy4Dg9_oNzx), and I've had a few people test ride it. What impressed me about the bar was that despite purposefully not mentioning anything about the handlebars, everyone who's used the bike defaults to using the drops automatically. It's a great position, hybrid between regular drops and straight bars, and just to show how nice a bike the Roadini is, my wife used it on her commute a few days and now wants her own Roadini!Like all Grant Petersen bikes, it's the kind of bike where the more you ride it the more you like it. I've noticed that about his designs since the Bridgestone RB-1. I still feel that the bike could use a lower BB (especially when shod with 38mm tires), but riding with 28mm tires makes the bike feel so agile.

Re: [RBW] Re: I have questions

2024-03-22 Thread Brian Turner

Unless you’re riding at night in off-road situations, and need a big round beam blasted in front of you, I would not recommend the Sinewave Beacon. They’ve made upgrades to the Beacon II, but I have no experience with the new version - just the original one. Also, I wouldn’t recommend it for the ability to charge via its built-in USB port. It’s built well, looks good, and does indeed put out the brightness, but I’m so much more happier with an Edelux or B IQ-X. They are plenty bright, are more consistently lit at slower speeds, and the beam pattern makes sense for all types of riding. For multi-day trips, I’m perfectly happy with carrying a charging brick for devices.BrianOn Mar 22, 2024, at 11:51 AM, Ted Durant wrote:On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 8:10:14 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? Yes. I have Rene Herse 48mm tires on my Breadwinner G-Road, Gravel King (smooth) 48mm on West Coast Sam, and Ultradynamico 48mm tires on East Coast Sam, and 15-17mph is pretty much my normal pace on all of them. The Gravel Kings require only a bit more effort than the RH tires. The Ultradynamico tires require noticeably more effort, but it's not like they're boat anchors. I've done a couple of 20mph rides on the Breadwinner. My Rivendell Road recently went from 26 to 32mm (though they measure 29 on the skinny rims) tires. It's easier to ride at 20mph on that bike, but only marginally so. What are people using to charge phones on long rides away from home?For my Breadwinner I spent a lot of time thinking about and designing a flexible generator-light-charging setup, and I'm very happy with the result. The coaxial wire from the hub ends in a quick-connector behind the fork crown. Normally my headlight (Supernova E3 pro 2) plugs into that, and the tail light plugs into the headlight. If I want to charge something, I have a Sinewave Revolution that can plug into the generator instead of the headlight. That leaves me without lights, but I also can plug the lights into a USB power source. Supernova says the lights won't run off a battery, but the 5v from the battery is more than enough. They aren't at their full brightness, but they are plenty bright for most conditions. I prefer having a headlight with a properly shaped beam (sorry, Beacon), and you can't really generate enough watts to run both a light and charge a phone, anyway. And besides, reasonably lightweight USB power sources are cheap and easy. The one I have is only a few ounces and can charge my phone 3x. And I can recharge it from my generator hub if I want. In fact, theoretically I can connect both the generator and the lights to the battery, and it will charge the battery as the battery is powering the lights. I haven't tested that to see if the generator makes enough power to run the lights and still add to the battery charge level.Ted DurantMilwaukee, WI USA

Re: [RBW] Ride Report--'24 Diablo Summit #3 and first big ride on RoadeoRosa

2024-03-16 Thread Brian Turner

…but did it even happen if there’s no photos to show everyone??  :)

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[RBW] Re: Major v brake adjustment

2024-03-14 Thread Brian Turner

I feel ya on that one, Bernard. I too have a couple of wheelsets for my 26" 
Atlantis and there's two different sets of tires I enjoy running on that 
bike. Rims are different widths of course so it's a question of, which is 
the least amount of hassle: swapping out tires on the one wheelset, or 
swapping wheels and readjusting the brakes each time? My other issue is 
that one wheelset is built up with a dyno hub and the other isn't, so I 
have to find a way to secure the light wiring if I'm not using the dyno hub 
set. AGH! I'm not at the point yet where I want to spring for an additional 
matching wheelset, though!

Brian
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Re: [RBW] Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-10 Thread Brian Turner

I forgot to mention, the 110mm stem works well for me on a frame like the Gus 
because it has a longer effective top tube length than a more traditional 
styled diamond frame. Gus, Platy, Clem, Susie, Roscoe… those Rivs are all 
designed for upright riding with sweptback bars like the Ortho (and Tosco, 
Bosco, etc.). There’s a good chance you’d need a longer stem option if you’re 
riding a frame with more traditional diamond geometry.

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Re: [RBW] Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-10 Thread Brian Turner

On Mar 10, 2024, at 2:46 PM, iamkeith  wrote:I can't offer much input regarding length, without knowing more about you and your bike, but can offer this in case it helps:  I just swapped a Ron's Ortho bar in place of a 65cm Riv Tosco bar, mainly because it was black.  The two bars are almost identical in terms of rise and reach and sweep.  I still have the Tosco on one bike (Susie), with a 135 faceplater.  The Ortho is has a 120 stem, but on a frame with a significantly longer top tube (Scapegoat), so almost comparable reach in the end.  In both cases, I wish my stem was even longer, but they're hard to find and I do have a uniquely long torso, too.  Main point is that if  you have access to a Tosco, you can extrapolate safely.  Ron's has more graceful curves and doesn't have the fugly 31.8mm bulge at the clamp area but Tosco, being steel, is MUCH stiffer and therefore the superior bar from a practical standpoint. Ortho is too flexy, but aesthetically superior.   Either one achieves the most comfortable cockpit I've ever owned.  On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 12:18:52 PM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote:It’s 26.0 clamp diameter.On Mar 10, 2024, at 2:04 PM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote:Chris, are you changing handlebar on an existing bike or, is this a new build? If the former & when I did a bar swap on my Gus, I was able to determine stem length with a couple of measurements. I always prefer a 4 bolt stem but as I understand it the ortho bar has an unusual clamp size?Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 10, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> wrote:Without having the most important factors (frame, size, and what you’re currently running), I’d say going with a faceplater type stem would be a good idea because these are very wide bars, and it’s good to have a stem that will clamp down on them more securely than a single bolt quill stem.I currently have Ortho bars on my 54cm Gus, and I’m using a 110mm Nitto threadless stem with 4 bolts on the faceplate.-BrianLexington KY On Mar 10, 2024, at 1:03 PM, Chris K <cmka...@gmail.com> wrote:Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem advice from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame factors that play into something like this, but curious what people are generally going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:- Faceplater 110mm- Faceplater 135mm- Tallux 12cmWill the 110 Faceplater be too short?



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Re: [RBW] Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-10 Thread Brian Turner

It’s 26.0 clamp diameter.On Mar 10, 2024, at 2:04 PM, Richard Rose wrote:Chris, are you changing handlebar on an existing bike or, is this a new build? If the former & when I did a bar swap on my Gus, I was able to determine stem length with a couple of measurements. I always prefer a 4 bolt stem but as I understand it the ortho bar has an unusual clamp size?Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 10, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Brian Turner wrote:Without having the most important factors (frame, size, and what you’re currently running), I’d say going with a faceplater type stem would be a good idea because these are very wide bars, and it’s good to have a stem that will clamp down on them more securely than a single bolt quill stem.I currently have Ortho bars on my 54cm Gus, and I’m using a 110mm Nitto threadless stem with 4 bolts on the faceplate.-BrianLexington KY On Mar 10, 2024, at 1:03 PM, Chris K wrote:Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem advice from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame factors that play into something like this, but curious what people are generally going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:- Faceplater 110mm- Faceplater 135mm- Tallux 12cmWill the 110 Faceplater be too short?

Re: [RBW] Ron's Ortho... stem question

2024-03-10 Thread Brian Turner

Without having the most important factors (frame, size, and what you’re currently running), I’d say going with a faceplater type stem would be a good idea because these are very wide bars, and it’s good to have a stem that will clamp down on them more securely than a single bolt quill stem.I currently have Ortho bars on my 54cm Gus, and I’m using a 110mm Nitto threadless stem with 4 bolts on the faceplate.-BrianLexington KY On Mar 10, 2024, at 1:03 PM, Chris K  wrote:Hey all, I've got some Ortho Bars in my cart and looking for stem advice from those who use this bar. Obv there are multiple fit and frame factors that play into something like this, but curious what people are generally going with. Here are the options I'm deciding between:- Faceplater 110mm- Faceplater 135mm- Tallux 12cmWill the 110 Faceplater be too short?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of replaceing the clem with the gus. Thoughts?

2024-03-10 Thread Brian Turner

I’ve never ridden a Clem, but the factors that attracted me to my Gus were:
- 1-1/8” threadless headset: proper stiffness for off-road riding, and the
ability to easily swap stems and bars. Plus, I like big chunky threadless stems
and how securely they grip the bars. I don’t want to deal with bars slipping
every time I torque on the bars or hit a bump on a descent.
- Ability to run 2.5” - 2.6” tires (because I’m running Motolites I can only
clear 2.5”)
- bottom bracket clearance
- beefier tube set
- the weight limit thing (I’m not a heavy rider, but wanted to carry decent
loads for bikepacking over rough terrain without worrying if I’m pushing the
weight limits
- the fillet brazed frame is gorgeous

I’m not an aggressive trail rider, and I don’t typically ride anything overly
technical or twisty, so for the type I trail riding I do, I find the Gus to be
plenty capable and extremely confident and comfortable. It’s also awfully nice
to ride around town too. My favorite tires that handle all the terrain I ride
on my Gus (paved and unpaved) are Teravail Ehlines.

Brian
Lexington KY

Re: [RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

2024-03-05 Thread Brian Turner

*I don't backpack, so a dynamo is unnecessary.*

Although I am certainly glad to have it, the bike I use the most for 
bikepacking is probably the one I use my dynamo light on the least. 
Probably because on multi-day trips, I rarely find myself biking through 
the darkness for long periods of time. Typically, I am riding most of the 
daytime, and usually am at camp (or wherever) well before the sun sets. I 
find a dynamo setup to be incredibly practical for those bikes you hop on 
the most, for anything and everything; commuting or traveling on streets 
with traffic, riding around with friends at night, etc.

Ok, sorry to go off-topic!

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 11:37:44 AM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:

> Rear Cliffhanger on my Gus is built with this Bitex hub. It’s been very 
> good for the first 2k miles.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 4, 2024, at 1:24 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I find the Analog review of the Bitex hub to be very accurate. They are 
> very close to the WI hubs at a small fraction of the cost. Amazing at 
> quality and price but with zero hyper around them.
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 11:43:54 AM UTC-5 gril...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My Appaloosa is being built up with a Bitex rear touring hub. 
>> Wheels are being built up this week - I'll report back once they (and the 
>> bike) are ready!
>>
>> On Sunday 3 March 2024 at 09:56:15 UTC+10:30 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> I'd recommend a set of white industries hubs if you are looking for 
>>> something more high-end. Smoothest hubs I've seen. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 6:04:12 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 I second Deore LX! I had those front & rear until I laced up a front 
 wheel with a Kasai FS dynamo hub.

 On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 2:11:58 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:

> I like the Deore LX trekking equipment.  A rear hub would be FH-T670.
> Quiet and bulletproof.  I’ve laced them to Velocity Atlas and Velocity 
> Dyads.
> For a front hub, I tend to use Shimano 105s because they are reliable 
> and reasonably cheap.
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[RBW] Re: Anyone else not a fan of the very long chainstays?

2024-03-05 Thread Brian Turner

I've groused about this before a bit, - it's more about the fact that I
think that design characteristic is great for certain models, but doesn't
need to be applied to the majority of the Rivendell lineup, IMO. As the
owner of a Gus, I think it's great for that bike and it's intended purpose.
It's extremely comfortable to ride, both on and especially off road. Same
with Susie of course, and also Clems and Joes. What I can't understand is,
instead of having two such similarly designed and equipped models as the
Atlantis and Appaloosa, why not have just the Appaloosa be the long-stay
version for those who want that feature in a touring-capable, all-purpose
frame? I just don't understand this, given how they couldn't justify having
both the Gus and the Susie / Wolbis and ended up discontinuing the Gus. At
least with those models there was more distinct differences than I can find
in the Atlantis and the Appaloosa. I think the venerated Atlantis should be
returned to its more traditional touring frame geometry with stays that are
closer in length to say, a Sam Hillborne.

The super-long wheelbase does make traveling with, and storing the bike a
lot more cumbersome. I understand how it affects the ride and handling of
the bike, but to me, I'm not sure it is enough of a selling point to make
me want to purchase any other Riv with long chainstays.

Brian
Lex KY

Re: [RBW] Yet another tired question...

2024-02-26 Thread Brian Turner

RH Naches Pass 26 x 1.8"
I'm running them mounted on Velocity Atlas rims and they measure 41mm for
me. Excellent all-rounder tire!

-Brian
Lex KY

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 9:10 AM Jingy  wrote:

> I would suggest the Rene Herse 26 x1.8" tire ( I can't remember the
> name-not the Rat Trap Pass, the other one).
> So far that's been my favorite tire on my 26" wheeled All Rounder.
>
> Jim in Mpls
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Re: [RBW] WTB: All Rounder

2024-02-05 Thread Brian Turner

If not an AR, a 54.5cm or 56cm Toyo or Waterford Atlantis 26” will be nearly the same. Probably easier to score, too.I’m 5’8” with a 83 PBH, and riding a 54.5 Atlantis. Could just as easily ride a 56cm.- Brian On Feb 5, 2024, at 10:26 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:Looking for an All Rounder. Not sure what the sizing was, but my PBH is 83.3cm at 5’11”. I’ll most likely equip it with moustache or similar “sporty” bars. Please let me know if you have one available. I may be talked into a pre-MIT Atlantis or Hunqapillar. Thanks. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Why baskets and front bags instead of rear panniers or perfect Rivendell saddlebags?

2024-02-02 Thread Brian Turner

I think a bike looks and feels incredibly unbalanced with just two big 
stuffed rear panniers. Like many here have stated, the super noodly 
rear-end just isn't desirable. And, if you're carrying so much stuff that 
you're filling two big panniers, why not balance the load a bit more and 
carry some gear up front? Like Samwise Gamgee says, "share the load".

-Brian
Lex KY 

On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 7:54:54 AM UTC-5 Ron Mc wrote:

> If we're comparing front loads, poppers and ribs
>
> [image: wVRl7xH.jpg] [image: 4MaD0iL.jpg]
> [image: hws6znn.jpg] [image: Sn20Bp4.jpg]
>
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 12:15:37 AM UTC-6 kiziria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Best is both worlds! A 137 up front with either my swift sugarloaf or 
>> shopsack and 1 or 2 panniers in the rear. About all one could ask for with 
>> nearly all day-long commuting or utilitarian purposes. I scored the most 
>> recent version of an Ortlieb Vario off eBay. That has been the ultimate 
>> solution. As much as I despise the hyper-engineered materials and 
>> manufacturing processes, they have come up with a design so good that it 
>> has reduced my resistance to some rides previously (needing a backpack, but 
>> not wanting to carry one, and not wanting to put it awkwardly in a basket, 
>> or another pannier). I've gotten it down to maybe 3-5 seconds to switch 
>> between pannier and backpack. What seals the deal, is that it holds weight 
>> *exceptionally 
>> well* as a backpack and is very comfortable, which I think no other 
>> convertible backpack/panniers previously do very well. I use it every day 
>> and carry significant weight of a mobile office into a co-working space. 
>> Even if I paid full price, the value is very much there for me. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 7:51:20 PM UTC-8 ack...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> There's no right or wrong way to carry your gear. Front baskets and bags 
>>> are convenient for quick-grab city use. I also prefer the way bikes handle 
>>> with front weight. A lot of us can't stand that tail-wiggle that comes from 
>>> overloaded rear panniers. I know that I would rather do a Costco run or 
>>> carry my cornhole boards on a front rack with bungee cords. I have tried it 
>>> all and I will never ride with rear saddlebags again unless I'm on a long 
>>> tour and my my handlebar-mounted Large Fabios's Chest, Swift Industries Jr. 
>>> Ranger Panniers attached to my Pass and Stow rack, Rogue Panda Frame bag 
>>> and BagsXBird Goldback medium saddlesack don't provide enough storage space 
>>> for me. 
>>>
>>> It seems like the OP is quite attached to rear panniers because it suits 
>>> his personal riding style. From the tone of the responses to some of the 
>>> replies, OP is looking for either validation or to be convinced that there 
>>> is a BETTER way to ride/load. But bikes are so deeply personal. That's why 
>>> we ride and tinker and convert and trade. So we can find the bike style and 
>>> set-up that suits us best. I personally can't stand rear-weight, simply 
>>> because of "how it feels." TAIL-WIGGLE is like nails on a chalkboard to me. 
>>> I also love the aesthetics of high-mounted front loads, I just find it more 
>>> pleasing to look at. 
>>>
>>> Final point: I don't think that The Everyman rides Rivendells. Folks who 
>>> can afford these bikes are a privileged few, and many of us have spent 
>>> YEARS tinkering, switching out racks, switching out bags, saddlebags, 
>>> Fabio's Chests, Carradice bags, etc. etc. So the fact that so many 
>>> Rivendell-listers choose to ride with front baskets and bags means that 
>>> through trial and error, we have decided that it works better for us and it 
>>> "feels better." NOT saying it IS better, even though I feel just as 
>>> strongly about front-loading as OP does about rear-loading. But if we all 
>>> rode the same way, how boring this would all be and how would I be able to 
>>> pick up cheap niche bike gear at a discounted rate when all you indecisive 
>>> Riv Riders decide that "PAUL BRAKES ARE OUT AND V-BRAKES ARE IN!!!" or 
>>> "BROOKS SADDLES ARE OVERRATED. I NEED A BERTHOUD!!!"
>>>
>>> (And babies like riding in front-baskets)
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: 0-1.jpg][image: IMG_5539.jpg][image: IMG_7392.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-8 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 I have basically the same reasoning as Ian, and also live in a city and 
 dont want to leave bags on my bike when I lock up, plus i like my daily 
 bag 
 to not look too bikey (I use the shopsacks). Convenient and easy, easier 
 to 
 pile up with whatever shit i want, take a jacket or sweater off if i get 
 hot, sling my lock into it. Does it affect handling? yep, but i dont 
 really 
 mind that much for riding around town. If my situation was different maybe 
 id do things differently, but I tend to like having a at least a small 
 basket available for an around town bike. I like the way it looks too.

Re: [RBW] Dialing in a Brooks Saddle

2024-02-01 Thread Brian Turner

I'm perfectly comfortable on B17s, and always have been... but I've 
recently (past 2-3 years) switched to Berthoud saddles. I think one of the 
issues Brooks saddles can have is that there seem to be inconsistencies in 
the quality and thickness of the leather used. I'm still using a 15 year 
old B17 Special that is very comfortable and still holding up strong, but 
I've had a couple other B17s come and go since I first purchased this one. 
I guess this one was just an especially good one, or whatever. You'll pay 
more for other brands like Berthoud or Ideale but the leather is noticeably 
better quality than what I've found on Brooks. A purely subjective data 
point, but I've never bothered with padded shorts or chamois. I wear 
regular shorts or pants with merino boxers no matter what type of ride or 
ride length.

-Brian
Lex KY

On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 12:43:59 PM UTC-5 Mojo wrote:

> Jay,
>
> Here is my data point FWIW. I adjust my B17s to be nose up higher than 
> back-of-saddle up. In other words, my saddle has less of a nose-up position 
> less than the back flat position discussed here, creating a hammock shape, 
> but again with the nose a bit higher than the back.
>
> I find B17s quite comfortable for day riding, but it literally wears on me 
> on multiday tours. I have found the Berthoud Aspin, 157mm width, to be much 
> more comfortable and more expensive. The WTB Pure, 148mm width, does well 
> for day rides and costs so much less. Both tilt adjusted as described above.
>
> Joe in GJT 
>
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 6:52:51 PM UTC-7 Jay wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the wisdom.  And the humour (Eric).
>>
>> I installed the saddle and tinkered with initial set up in my basement. 
>>  Proceeded to go out for ride one, around the block.  These very short 
>> rides tell me if I'm way off.  I was.  Made adjustments about five more 
>> times, going around my block once or twice each time.  Felt better, but 
>> never comfortable.  Went out for a 10k ride.  Stopped twice to adjust.  I 
>> had the saddle level in the back, which puts the nose up (as you know). 
>>  That had me neither sliding forward or backward, but it wasn't 
>> comfortable.  I felt like the tilt was right (no slide), height was good 
>> (decent extension at bottom of stroke), and I'm guessing fore/aft was 
>> good...no leg pain. Hard to say what was uncomfortable; I felt the skirt of 
>> the saddle, and general discomfort around the sit bones (not the sit bone 
>> pin-point area itself).  
>>
>> When I ride my Prologo (147mm wide) I am very comfortable for 1-2 hours, 
>> then it slowly becomes uncomfortable (friction/chafing).  The Prologo was 
>> comfortable from ride one (after the small adjustments per my routine).  On 
>> my Fargo, where I'm riding it like a drop-bar mountain bike on 'green' 
>> trails in my area, I stand a lot, and I can ride long without discomfort. 
>>  Long road rides, however, not so good.  Same saddle on my road bike, bit 
>> better at the 2-3hr mark.
>>
>> Not sure where to go from here!  I don't think I'll bring the saddle for 
>> the Roadini fitting, but I won't get rid of it.  We'll see how this unfolds 
>> :-)
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 3:06:26 PM UTC-5 Chris Halasz wrote:
>>
>>> I've owned many B17 saddles, and there is variability, and in my 
>>> experience, less variability in the Special than in the Standard. So if you 
>>> don't like the B17 you try, it may just be you don't like *that* particular 
>>> B17. 
>>>
>>> I've always thought that Brooks should do a little pressure test mid-way 
>>> on the saddle to address the variability in the leather. In my experience, 
>>> some seem made for more robust torsos, and some for much less. I regret 
>>> selling a just right one to a very nice person here in town, but am more 
>>> pleased to know how well it suits him. 
>>>
>>> For starters, I always adjust a B17 to nose up by a tip of the thumb 
>>> thickness at the back from level. That gets me good enough. 
>>>
>>> If further micro-adjustment is needed, I have a small round magnet that 
>>> Riv provided with my Hobson Zingo (is that right?) Allen key that remains 
>>> on the bike's head tube and then temporarily set my 4 or 5mm key handy and 
>>> (ideally) have a seat post with a fore and aft screw for the adjustment. 
>>>
>>> I recall an old video of Eddy Merckx micro adjusting his saddle height 
>>> while out on a ride. Makes me feel just like Eddy. 
>>>
>>> - Chris 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 9:26:36 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I believe that it all depends on your riding posture in the angle of 
 which your pelvis and your seat bones rest on the saddle. See attachment 
 diagram. 

 It is a personal choice and preference as much as one's bum is 
 different from the next person's. 

 I ride in an upright riding position my Clem with my B66S saddle's nose 
 titled up slightly. I wear padded cycling shorts.

Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto R10

2024-01-29 Thread Brian Turner

Also, here's my NR-20 <https://photos.app.goo.gl/Nsa3zTbX15k7qFUE9> shown 
mounted to my 26" Atlantis, so you can see how it works with my fenders and 
mounted to the rear bridge. With all the clearance I have, I had to use a 
25mm aluminum spacer to get it to fit, and fortunately everything worked 
out perfect with my fender lines. I don't know if this will help you, Pam, 
but I thought I'd put the info out there so you can make a more informed 
decision.

-Brian

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 9:26:53 AM UTC-5 Brian Turner wrote:

I got mine from across the pond: 
https://sprockets.uk.com/nitto-nr-21-canti-rear-rack-mount/

Keep in mind, there are two different versions depending on your brake 
bridge mounting orientation. NR-20 is for vertically oriented mount, NR-21 
is a threaded mount meant to go straight through (like a fork crown does). 
Also, these are meant for 26" wheels.
-Brian


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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto R10

2024-01-29 Thread Brian Turner

I got mine from across the pond:
https://sprockets.uk.com/nitto-nr-21-canti-rear-rack-mount/

Keep in mind, there are two different versions depending on your brake
bridge mounting orientation. NR-20 is for vertically oriented mount, NR-21
is a threaded mount meant to go straight through (like a fork crown does).
Also, these are meant for 26" wheels.
-Brian

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:32 AM Armand Kizirian 
wrote:

> I have both a Nitto NR-20 and Nitto NR-21, which may suit your needs. I
> may be willing to part with one of them ;). They are brand new and
> unobtanium.
>
> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 12:15:43 AM UTC-8 Dave S wrote:
>
>> https://tumbleweed.cc/collections/products/products/t-rack
>>
>> They also have the adapter for the fender mount that was mentioned
>> earlier,
>>
>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 11:33:34 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for your collective wisdom.  I looked at it again and don't
>>> think it would work either.  And the R50 won't help much since I need help
>>> on the bottom.  I'll try Steve's coroplast idea to see if that helps.  I
>>> was trying to just have one big bag on this bike.  But when I carry stuff
>>> it gets heavy and sags.  I may add the coroplast and out a front bag on or
>>> just make sure I'm w/someone else w/more carrying capacity.
>>>
>>> I never have a problem carrying stuff on my Betty.  I'm so used to
>>> having 2 big bags and a rear rack.  And then the sky is the limit
>>> literally.  That and the 50 lb weight limit of the rack or whatever it's
>>> supposed to be.  But I won't go far with that much weight anyway.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 3:18:12 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is a link to a Nitto R50 Andrews Bag Holder:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/18670-nitto-r50-andrews-bag-holder-rivendell-3797#attr=
>>>>
>>>> There is only one available LEFT ! ! !
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 7:05:19 AM UTC-8 Brian Turner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pam, unfortunately your combination of chunky seatpost binder,
>>>>> old-school seatpin and sandwich clamp, and the springs on your saddle
>>>>> aren't doing you any favors in regards to freeing up what already limited
>>>>> space you have. I seriously doubt the clamp for the R10 will find space on
>>>>> your post. And, as others have mentioned, the design of the R10 would
>>>>> likely dip down too far to avoid interfering with your wheel. It's a shame
>>>>> there are no other braze-ons along the length of your seat stays. One
>>>>> option may be to find a small rack like a Nitto Mark's rack, and see if 
>>>>> you
>>>>> can find rack struts long enough to reach down to the rear dropouts, and
>>>>> then either fashion a diving board to the brake bridge (where you have 
>>>>> your
>>>>> fender clip mounted), or use another set of rack struts with p-clamps
>>>>> around your seat stays.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> Lex KY
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:56:20 AM UTC-5 Steve wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pam, you might try a trick I've used to stiffen the bag enough to
>>>>>> prevent sagging. Get your hands on a sheet of corrugated plastic - the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> stuff that is used for political campaign yard signs (they should soon be
>>>>>> readily available for no cost ; )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cut the plastic sheet to fit the interior width of the bag and long
>>>>>> enough to cover the bottom and extend up onto the front wall of the bag.
>>>>>> The corrugations need to run across the width of the cut sheet so you can
>>>>>> fold it to curve up the front wall. The sheet should be sized to fit
>>>>>> slightly snug to prevent it shifting around inside the bag. It's a low
>>>>>> cost, light weight solution that repurposes  bit of plastic that is
>>>>>> otherwise destined for the land fill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your Schwinn looks like a sweet little bike in its own right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve in Asheville
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 12:43:31 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>&g

[RBW] Re: Nitto R10

2024-01-27 Thread Brian Turner

Pam, unfortunately your combination of chunky seatpost binder, old-school 
seatpin and sandwich clamp, and the springs on your saddle aren't doing you 
any favors in regards to freeing up what already limited space you have. I 
seriously doubt the clamp for the R10 will find space on your post. And, as 
others have mentioned, the design of the R10 would likely dip down too far 
to avoid interfering with your wheel. It's a shame there are no other 
braze-ons along the length of your seat stays. One option may be to find a 
small rack like a Nitto Mark's rack, and see if you can find rack struts 
long enough to reach down to the rear dropouts, and then either fashion a 
diving board to the brake bridge (where you have your fender clip mounted), 
or use another set of rack struts with p-clamps around your seat stays.

Brian
Lex KY 

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:56:20 AM UTC-5 Steve wrote:

> Pam, you might try a trick I've used to stiffen the bag enough to prevent 
> sagging. Get your hands on a sheet of corrugated plastic - the same stuff 
> that is used for political campaign yard signs (they should soon be readily 
> available for no cost ; )   
>
> Cut the plastic sheet to fit the interior width of the bag and long enough 
> to cover the bottom and extend up onto the front wall of the bag. The 
> corrugations need to run across the width of the cut sheet so you can fold 
> it to curve up the front wall. The sheet should be sized to fit slightly 
> snug to prevent it shifting around inside the bag. It's a low cost, light 
> weight solution that repurposes  bit of plastic that is otherwise destined 
> for the land fill.
>
> Your Schwinn looks like a sweet little bike in its own right. 
>
> Steve in Asheville
>
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 12:43:31 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Thinking about getting a R10 as a bag support - for a small Fab's Chest.  
>> This is on my back up Schwinn.  I set it up just like my Betty Foy in case 
>> I ever need any parts.  Concerns are that I have a 26.6 seatpost and it 
>> says 26.8.  I guess I could get a shim.  Would it hold?  How much is the 
>> weight limit for the rack?  And I'm not sure if I have enough seat post to 
>> put the clamp.  Right now, I have the pec dec but if I put too much in the 
>> bag, it starts to sag and I don't want it dragging on the tire.  
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-27 Thread Brian Turner

It’s unfortunate that this country never has, and never will embrace multi-modal transportation. Just think of all the biking possibilities that could be available to so many more of us, and not just those who live in major metropolitan areas. On Jan 27, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Leah Peterson wrote:Yes, you remember rightly, George. This was why I had to get a 50 cm Platy (still waiting for parts to be built) - so that I could put it on Amtrak; the 55 is just too long. And even then the 50 will be a tight fit, and you can only have so many bikes on the train, and there’s some other dumb rules that may or may not be enforced when we get there. It’s not a bulletproof plan. Marc does it with a Brompton.On Jan 26, 2024, at 11:54 AM, George Schick wrote:I hate to throw a wet blanket on this idea, but wasn't there some discussion on this forum a while back about taking bikes on Amtrak, which trains allow them and which ones don't, where and how they store the bikes, etc? Not sure if that was ever resolved for this route. Has anyone done this before on this Amtrak Wolverine route?On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 10:42:00 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Marc! You want to do this with me, I’m sure!The Lone Wolf and The Platypus Rider Ride Across Two States. I can see it now.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 26, 2024, at 11:29 AM, Marc Irwin wrote:Leah, The ride from Millenium Park sounds like the route I've taken several times to and from Chicago, using Indiana Dunes as one of the overnights. It would be a good ride, you could take Amtrak to Chicago and return on Amtrak from New Buffalo.MarcOn Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:23:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Leif, I could do this It’s Father’s day weekend, so that is the only possible snag. I’m going to try and make this ride! Thank you!!!Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 25, 2024, at 8:27 PM, Leif Eckstrom wrote:Hey Leah, and midwestern riders, There’s a well-planned and well-executed ride from Chicago’s Millenium Park to New Buffalo, MI, spread out over 2 days, totalling about 100 miles all told. June 14-15 (Friday and Saturday). Hundreds of friendly riders—most camp the first night at Indiana Dunes state park, but hotels are another option. Easy pace. Easy route. Food and sag support. There are a number of Ragbrai riders who attend this ride from chicago. Perhaps they could give you a taste of ragbrai without all the logistical headaches. I had a lot of fun last year on this ride and made plenty of new friends. Registration opens Sunday, February 11. There are busses and moving trucks to take you, your luggage, and your bike back to chicago should you like. More details here. https://www.bikereg.com/63763Best, Leif in ChicagoOn Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Welp, I was so much more excited about this in theory. After reading about the various experiences of damaged luggage, sweltering temps and difficult logistics, I think I’ll find a different ride to do. Thanks to everyone who offered their experiences! It was a great thread to read in the dead of a Michigan winter.LeahOn Jan 21, 2024, at 12:03 PM, Matt Beecher wrote:If I were to do it again, I would pay for one of the services where they haul your stuff and set up your tent. Getting a hotel will likely be nearly impossible, given the number of people attending. I did RAGBRAI a few years ago and tried bringing my own tent and setting it up at night. The kids they use to haul luggage from site to site quickly destroyed my bag. Basically, they pile them in the truck and if I had to guess, they saw my handles and yanked on it to pull it free, but tore the brand new heavy canvas bag instead. I tried holding it together with a cable lock and tape, but had to give up on that after a few days. A lot of items I didn't need were tossed, then the rest went into my panniers and I had to haul it myself. Overall, I was a bit disappointed with the luggage service side of the trip. However, the ride itself was great, especially eating dinner with strangers every evening. One thing I was happy that I brought was my ultralight cot. It got me off of the ground, which kept me dry on rainy evenings and cooler on hot days. The next trick is to find a way to charge your phone. I'd make sure you have a power bank available. Good luck,MattOn Monday, January 15, 2024 at 5:33:07 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Who knows about Bike Film Festival? I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even know that I’m gone

Re: [RBW] B17 alternatives

2024-01-24 Thread Brian Turner

While I still have a couple of well-loved and trusty B17s in service, I am now a loyal Gilles Berthoud convert. I’ll second Luke’s recommendation on the Aspin (or Aravis if you’re feeling na$ty). They’re gorgeous saddles, the thicker leather doesn’t “hammock” like Brooks sometimes can, and everything is replaceable/rebuildable. Plus, they are a great company to deal with.BrianLex KY. On Jan 24, 2024, at 1:22 AM, Luke Hendrickson  wrote:I encourage you to try a Berthoud Aspin. Wide like a B17, but with a narrower nose/front end that leads to a sportier saddle and less thigh rub. It doesn’t hurt that it’s also exceptionally beautiful. 



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Re: [RBW] B17 alternatives

2024-01-24 Thread Brian Turner

While I still have a couple of well-loved and trusty B17s in service, I am now 
a loyal Gilles Berthoud convert. I’ll second Luke’s recommendation on the Aspin 
(or Aravis if you’re feeling na$ty). They’re gorgeous saddles, the thicker 
leather doesn’t “hammock” like Brooks sometimes can, and everything is 
replaceable/rebuildable. Plus, they are a great company to deal with.

Brian
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> On Jan 24, 2024, at 12:05 AM, mikel66...@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Rivet Pearl saddle is close to a B17
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Re: [RBW] Bridgestone MB5 + Goodies

2024-01-22 Thread Brian Turner

Size?On Jan 22, 2024, at 5:32 PM, Maxwell Seebeck wrote:Hello! I have a wonderful MB5 up for grabs, unfortunately the garage is getting full and the parts bin needs to be thinned out, plus I haven't ridden this bike all year so it is time to let it go!. I got this from a trade in at a bikeshop, and have configured it in a handful of ways since 2021 and would be an awesome project build for some one looking to build it up how they want to use it! Frame is in very good condition and has no major surface rust. I put T9 in the frame once a year since I got the bike. Hanger is straight and has never been crashed under my watch. Brakes and drivetrain are NOT operating and you will need to do this yourself or have a shop/buddy do it for you! I have it this way so you can set it up how you want to, as I am also including multiple handlebars and stems with the price.I am asking for $750 and that includes everything that is pictured**NOT PICTURED: DEORE 9SP MECH** https://photos.app.goo.gl/CuTW9pD31GWCoKxv9
ok, everything that is included for $750 (Also open to reasonable offers, no trades, would prefer local pick up (Issaquah,WA))

Frame: Bridgestone MB5 (Tange Cro-mo)
Rear Wheel: Wheelsmith Double wall, HG 10sp
Front Wheel: Handbuilt Kasai Dynacoil RB Dynamo Hub w/ Alex Adventure Rim
DT: Shimano Sora 2x cranks, 9sp Shimano Cassette, 9sp Deore rear mech, Suntour ARX front mech, deore friction shifter front, Microshift front friction but used on rear.
Brakes: Tektro V brakes w/ basic V brake levers
Headset: FSA Orbital something 1"
Stem: Jim Stem: 4bolt 31.8 8cm
Bars: Sim Works Rambler Bar

EXTRAS THAT ARE INCLUDED:
2 Rat Trap Pass Standard Casing Tires
Set of SKS bluemels Fenders
Soma Front Rack
Tubus Rear Rack (STAINLESS STEEL!!)
Front/Rear Shimano Deore Rim Brake hubs
Extra Alex Adventure Rim to match the front
3 different Handlebars
-Rivendell Bosco Bar
-Nitto Albatross Bar
-Nitto city bar? (its the black one)
Nitto Dirt Drop Stem 25.4

Things you will need:
-Seatpost + saddle, its an odd size but I have the one that came with so you can measure that. I have some cheap saddles if you want one
-Chain, I probably have a chain if you want a used chain
-Pedals, I have plenty if you want some flat pedals

Shoot me an offer!

Re: [RBW] Intro Post // My 51cm Toyo Atlantis

2024-01-21 Thread Brian Turner

Welcome, Josie! Glad you’re here. As I’m sure you’re aware from Instagram, I took many cues and inspiration from your lovely Atlantis as I was building up my Toyo. As far as I can tell, you and I are the only ones rocking the Nitto NR20 :)BrianLex KyOn Jan 21, 2024, at 3:40 PM, Brenton Eastman wrote:Looking very sweet. I love the twin bags front and rear. What size Carradice are those?Hope you let that cola settle down before opening!On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:Josie! Good to see you here. As always, lovely build.On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 11:46:56 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:Very nice build -- top 5 Atlantis build, in my book -- and that tiny rack is apparently capable of carrying immense loads.I can't see clearly from the photos, but it looks as if you have knobbies under fenders. First, what are the tires? Secondly, what if any is your front fender QR system, in case you pick up a stick? I am thinking of getting a second, fat and knobby wheelset for one of my bikes and have thought this would mean removing the fenders, but perhaps there are alternatives.On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 11:35 AM Josie wrote:Hello amigos, This is my first time posting up here - thanks for having me! This is my 51cm Toyo Built Atlantis that I picked up about 2 years ago. I take a lot of pictures while I ride, sometimes digital, often on film. I'm looking forward to seeing all of your builds and being apart of the Riv hype!Happy pedalling! ✌️

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[RBW] Re: Brooks B68 Video

2024-01-20 Thread Brian Turner

Looks great just from the glimpse of it. What kind of custom are you having 
built up? Is it road-ish? All-rounder? Traditional geometry? The I'm 
curious to see the red bits with the purple... that'll be unique.

On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 7:36:01 PM UTC-5 cz...@sonic.net wrote:

> I no longer ride Brooks saddles, but I am a big fan of this video 
> .
>  
> My new custom is enshrined in it. Apparently Mark had it in the stand when 
> Brian came around filming. You can tell that it's not a purple Platypus as 
> it has an RBW custom head badge and is fitted with Tektro red anodized 
> V-brakes.
>
> Look for it at 0:51 seconds.
>
> Regards,
>
> Corwin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell and Brooks B68 short film

2024-01-20 Thread Brian Turner

The weather is shit where I am (oddly enough, the Gulf Coast), so this 
video is what's giving me strength right now. I wish I could be teleported 
into these vintage, golden hues of Walnut Creek careening down a dirt path 
with my Gus.

Brian
Lex KY

On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 9:08:35 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> I thought this video came out so good, wish they made a longer cut of it.. 
> feel like i could watch that 16mm film all day
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 9:21:37 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Fun video. The way they are "shredding" the trails is my kind of riding. 
>> Doug
>>
>> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 3:40:09 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> That was great! Thanks for posting Eric!
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 3:15:06 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>>>
 I think it might just be…but at the least pleasantly harmless and 
 sweet. And  they all having such a good time. 

 Tho try as I might the long-wheelbase bikes just don’t flip my switch. 
 This got me going quite a while ago and I’m still chasing it. Rather odd I 
 suppose. 


 Jock

 On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 11:39 AM eddietheflay  
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> All those guys wearing those hats look like a cult :).
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 7:32:07 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 
>> VS--YouTube-BrooksEnglandTheB68isbackftRivendellBicycleWorks-0’45”.jpg]
>>
>> Brooks just released the 16mm film they made with the Rivendell staff 
>> :0) Quite fun! 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBIryCWhgBc
>>
>> The saddles are now available from Brooks! 
>> https://www.brooksengland.com/en_us/b68.html
>>
>> I wonder if this means we can buy a B68 directly from Rivendell now? 
>> Seems like Riv was holding back for Brooks to launch the revived saddle. 
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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Orange Blossom Special 2024

2024-01-16 Thread Brian Turner

Thanks, Bill! Mine is a 54.5cm, 26-in. model from 2008. Normally, I'd be 
rolling on Naches Pass (26 x 1.8") with 50mm Berthoud fenders. Those 
measure 41mm on my Atlas rims. For this ride, I ditched the fenders and 
mounted the RH Humptulips Ridge 26 x 2.3" knobbies. They measure 52mm on my 
rims. Hope this helps! -Brian

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:02:20 AM UTC-5 Bill Fulford wrote:

> Excellent ride report. It sounds like a great ride. I, too, have a Toyo 
> Atlantis and am curious to know which Rene Herse knobby tire fit on your 
> rig? Thanks.
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 9:28:18 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the kind words!
>>
>> Richard - that sounds like a good plan! We should all keep an eye out 
>> when they open up the registration later this year. I have a feeling it 
>> will fill up much quicker now that it's a thing.
>>
>> Steve - Thanks! I think you'd love this. When dry, these clay roads are 
>> probably very similar to those dirt forest access roads in Asheville - just 
>> without the forest! I know what you mean about the tenacity of the mud. My 
>> drivetrain and cassette got gunked up with it during the worst part, and it 
>> sounded like I was pedaling a toolbox full of nuts and bolts!
>>
>> Brian
>> Lex KY
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:28:42 PM UTC-5 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Great report, great looking bike. Thanks for sharing!
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Orange Blossom Special 2024

2024-01-16 Thread Brian Turner

Thanks for the kind words!

Richard - that sounds like a good plan! We should all keep an eye out when 
they open up the registration later this year. I have a feeling it will 
fill up much quicker now that it's a thing.

Steve - Thanks! I think you'd love this. When dry, these clay roads are 
probably very similar to those dirt forest access roads in Asheville - just 
without the forest! I know what you mean about the tenacity of the mud. My 
drivetrain and cassette got gunked up with it during the worst part, and it 
sounded like I was pedaling a toolbox full of nuts and bolts!

Brian
Lex KY

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> Great report, great looking bike. Thanks for sharing!
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[RBW] Orange Blossom Special in FL tomorrow?

2024-01-12 Thread Brian Turner

I realize this may be a long shot, but is anyone here planning to ride the 
"Orange Blossom Special" event in Avon Park, FL tomorrow (Sat. Jan 13th)? 
I'll be there with my Atlantis; looking forward to checking out the variety 
of surfaces this ride has promised. It would be cool to meet up with any 
other folks from this community while I'm there!

Brian
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-12 Thread Brian Turner

I’m anxious to see your impressions of the Paul Motolite brake setup. In my experience, the combo of Love lever and Motolite v-brake has the best feel, best stopping power, and easiest setup and adjustment of any brake setup I’ve ever used. -BrianLex Ky On Jan 12, 2024, at 7:23 AM, Tim Bantham wrote:That is a really cool story and so glad to hear. I am an absolute sucker for anything Paul. The moto-lite brakes and Love Levers are my all time favorites. Although I didn't need much persuading you have inspired me to pony up the dough to swap out the parts for Paul Components on my own Platypus. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 12:44:11 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:That rose is so pretty. I grant your swanky new Paul brakes my highest praise, they're RIDICULOUS On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 5:28:30 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly fast and everything was silver 4 months later. But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened to have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing to sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me to an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so fun, right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him my pics via email) and we made a plan. We colored it all. The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of it. The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami inside. I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, rose color. I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on its way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces back in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the shop. I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I said, “I have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who wants to see what is in these boxes?” So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, stuff I had never seen. “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul emblems. “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.I left the bike with them and I should have it in the next couple/few days, depending on how long the blizzard rages for. Not that I’ll get to ride and try those beautiful Paul parts out; we are getting up to a foot of snow! For now they are only a visual treat. I can’t even imagine how enamored I will be when I get to actually USE the brakes. And what nice people. I was not expecting them to be so personable! I have heard they are a small operation, but they are famous in their own right - celebrity machinists, really - yet so kind to a layperson like me.Here’s the photo I got before the parts shipped. “Whatcha think?” he asked. Oh, he knew. He knew he knocked it straight outta the park.Leah

Re: [RBW] Re: 2024 Frame Schedule

2024-01-11 Thread Brian Turner

Jason, I 100% agree with you on the Joe vs. Atlantis, and the void in Riv’s lineup for a classic-styled roadish tourer (which is why I think so many folks are searching for early era Atlantis frames these days - I’m glad to have found one this past year). I’m not a fan of what the Atlantis has evolved into, but wouldn’t rule out an Appaloosa in my near future.- BrianLex KyOn Jan 11, 2024, at 10:42 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:Word is the Sam is unchanged from previous batches, geometry-wise, which is wonderful news as Sam is perfect.  No plans to pick up anything this year, in fact it's my fourth annual "no new bikes" resolution which has failed three times thus far. I am a big fan of the new Susie's combination of specs, more stout than the old one (which was flexy to the extent it didn't make a good off-road tourer for most people) but quill stem. Dig that.I find the Appaloosa to be a lot better on the eyes than the modern Atlantis and I struggle to understand why since they're nearly the same. In my dream scenario, the Atlantis would go backwards slightly to bit a little more roadish in geometry, something similar to the Sam, but with the additional stoutness and tire clearance. I feel like this more road-focused true touring bike is currently missing in the lineup, and still falls within modern Riv sensibilities. Of course, I have no say in this, but a guy can dream.    On Thursday 11 January 2024 at 13:03:05 UTC-8 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:Saw this in the last email:February - ClemsMarch - Lugged Susies - kind of a new modelApril - Roaduno bikes and frames - new modelMay - Sam HillbornesJune - AppaloosasJuly - Platypus bikes and framesAugust - Charlie Gallop, nu model, bikes and frames, more info laterSeptember - RoadiniBeen waiting to pick up a Sam for a lng time. Anyone else have plans to pick up a new frame in 2024? Also, Looks like the foreboding about the Atlantis going into retirement is holding true with more appaloosas coming in the summer. Anyone out there still pining for that turquoise dream? - Drew  



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Re: [RBW] Re: lowrider rack advice / recommendations

2024-01-07 Thread Brian Turner

Thanks for the input, Armand! I see your point, and it's a good one. I'd 
need to take a measure of the Gamoh adapters, but if the spacing was right, 
I should be able to distribute the forces across two other points of 
attachment besides the QR: In theory, I could run the fender stay bolts 
through the hole on the Gamoh that lines up with the rear-facing braze-on 
on my fork dropout (assuming it also lines up with the QR axle - but that 
would remain to be seen). So that would be one direct mount to the fork. 
The other direct mount would be the crossbar on my Tubus rack that mounts 
to the mid-fork stay. I would like to think that triangulation of forces 
would take a lot of the burden off the QR. But again, I'm just speculating 
here.

-Brian
Lex KY

On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 6:46:32 PM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com wrote:

> I wouldn't trust two panniers riding on a QR axle. I know you said you 
> want to maintain your front rack setup, but would be best do ditch it and 
> go with something like a 
> https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-big-front-rack-34f-silver.html 
>
> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you John! See, I knew at least one of you would remind me that such 
>> a solution existed. Forgot about the Gamoh. I’ve actually used them before 
>> to make lighting brackets. They’re original intent would suit my needs 
>> perfectly it seems!
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2024, at 4:06 PM, John Rinker  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Brian,
>>
>>
>> Is it possible that a Mark's Hub Area rack would work? The only thing 
>> you'd need to add is something like the Gamoh rack adapter 
>> <https://global.bluelug.com/catalog/product/view/id/17914/s/gamoh-rack-adapter/category/40/>
>>  
>> (bluelug.com) so that you'd have attachment points at the fork dropouts. 
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 12:50:32 PM UTC-8 Brian Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all! I'm looking for suggestions on how I can run some low front 
>>> panniers on my 26" Toyo Atlantis that DOESN'T involve putting clamps around 
>>> my fork blades, and allows me to keep the canti rack as-is. My issue is 
>>> that my Atlantis only has one set of braze-ons at the *rear* of my fork 
>>> dropouts. My options would be wide-open if only my "touring" frame had all 
>>> the appropriate mounting points to live up to its potential... but I 
>>> digress. I really hate the look and the thought of pipe clamps - always 
>>> have. Also, this bike will have fenders most of the time, so that 
>>> complicates things a bit as well.
>>>
>>> I own a Tubus Nova that I love, and hoped would work with this bike, but 
>>> sadly it just won't given this configuration. I thought I would throw my 
>>> conundrum out to the group to see if there's some solution that I'm just 
>>> not thinking of.
>>>
>>> Here's a photo of my current configuration 
>>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/f6Xwr1UoyNN3jyjr7>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Brian
>>> Lexington, KY
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: lowrider rack advice / recommendations

2024-01-07 Thread Brian Turner

Thank you John! See, I knew at least one of you would remind me that such a solution existed. Forgot about the Gamoh. I’ve actually used them before to make lighting brackets. They’re original intent would suit my needs perfectly it seems!On Jan 7, 2024, at 4:06 PM, John Rinker wrote:Hey Brian,Is it possible that a Mark's Hub Area rack would work? The only thing you'd need to add is something like the Gamoh rack adapter (bluelug.com) so that you'd have attachment points at the fork dropouts. Just a thought.Cheers, JohnOn Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 12:50:32 PM UTC-8 Brian Turner wrote:Hi all! I'm looking for suggestions on how I can run some low front panniers on my 26" Toyo Atlantis that DOESN'T involve putting clamps around my fork blades, and allows me to keep the canti rack as-is. My issue is that my Atlantis only has one set of braze-ons at the rear of my fork dropouts. My options would be wide-open if only my "touring" frame had all the appropriate mounting points to live up to its potential... but I digress. I really hate the look and the thought of pipe clamps - always have. Also, this bike will have fenders most of the time, so that complicates things a bit as well.I own a Tubus Nova that I love, and hoped would work with this bike, but sadly it just won't given this configuration. I thought I would throw my conundrum out to the group to see if there's some solution that I'm just not thinking of.Here's a photo of my current configurationCheers!BrianLexington, KY

[RBW] lowrider rack advice / recommendations

2024-01-07 Thread Brian Turner

Hi all! I'm looking for suggestions on how I can run some low front 
panniers on my 26" Toyo Atlantis that DOESN'T involve putting clamps around 
my fork blades, and allows me to keep the canti rack as-is. My issue is 
that my Atlantis only has one set of braze-ons at the *rear* of my fork 
dropouts. My options would be wide-open if only my "touring" frame had all 
the appropriate mounting points to live up to its potential... but I 
digress. I really hate the look and the thought of pipe clamps - always 
have. Also, this bike will have fenders most of the time, so that 
complicates things a bit as well.

I own a Tubus Nova that I love, and hoped would work with this bike, but 
sadly it just won't given this configuration. I thought I would throw my 
conundrum out to the group to see if there's some solution that I'm just 
not thinking of.

Here's a photo of my current configuration 


Cheers!
Brian
Lexington, KY

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[RBW] Re: Will Cliffhangers leave me hanging?

2023-12-28 Thread Brian Turner

Marathons are like the anti-supple tire. Sure, they resist flats and are 
long-wearing... but they've always made every bike I've ever put them on 
feel like an unforgiving chunk of metal.

Brian


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[RBW] Re: "Grant hates toe clips."

2023-12-28 Thread Brian Turner

I only ride big, wide platforms with pins. I like the comfort and freedom 
of riding in whatever shoes I want. Makes it easier to just jump on the 
bike and go without having to think too much about wearing a special shoe 
or article of clothing. None of the riding I do would benefit from foot 
retention. That said, there are certain shoes I will wear for certain types 
of riding: around town or casual riding = vans or Blundstone boots. Rougher 
terrain or trail riding: Five Ten Freeriders. All-day rides: something with 
a stiffer shank, like a lightweight hiking shoe.


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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA 1997 Rivendell Road Custom 58cm

2023-12-08 Thread Brian Turner

It’s on Jeff’s Instagram:jeffrey g. frane on Instagram: "Next project, early Rivendell Road built by Waterford. This popped up for a good price so I jumped on it. It’s a really lovely and charming frameset. And that older dynamo hub is really cool. I’ve also really been wanting to own more of Waterfords output. 97th frame built in July 1997.

*the dream Rivendell is one made by Match or Curt Goodrich. An All-Arounder ideally. Hit me up if you ever find one for sale*

It’s on the big side for me, but I’m going to see if it can work. I was trying to find geo on these first gen Rivendell Roads (looks like it’ll clear a 42), but have come up empty. Holler if you’ve got the links.

I’m hoping it’s a bit more “regular.” The stays are a reasonable 440, but I’m curious how low the bb is. I’ve discovered I personally do not care for bb’s lower than 75mm drop.

*my measurements put the bb drop at around 70!*

Build will depend on if it’s a keeper or not. Built for 700’s but currently sitting on 650’s.
#bikejerkshqinstagram.comOn Dec 8, 2023, at 7:07 AM, Ryan wrote:Pictures?On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 4:31:15 PM UTC-6 wats...@umn.edu wrote:Just a heads up, bikejerks on IG in Minneapolis has a cool Rivendell Road Custom for sale for $2600. Jeff Frane is the seller, has worked in the industry and seems to do a nice job with his builds and shipping. From his add...For Sale: $2600 obo1997 Rivendell Custom RoadST 58cm ctcTT 58.5cm ctcStandover 820mmReady to rip, this thing is a stone classic.Waterford made of Reynolds 753 with 531 Fork BladesRichard Sachs designed lugs. It currently sits on 650b wheels. Schmidt Dynamo front hub, rear XT hub, Velo Orange rims. Rene Herse 650x42 (looks like 38mm Loup Loups) tires. Velo Orange Grand Cru Cranks 170mm. XTR 9 speed rear derailleur, XT front, wide range Sram cassette. Dia Compe brakes, Tektro Levers, Tange headset, Nitto bars and stem, Campy aero post, Brooks B17 saddle.Pedals not included. Located in Minneapolis and shipping worldwideMy size, but redundant for me. Will in Minneapolis

Re: [RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

2023-11-25 Thread Brian Turner

I just received the Kinco waterproof Work + Ski mitt for my birthday and am anxious to get to try them out on some cold rides this Winter. They’re leather mittens, but have a 5-finger liner built into them to keep your fingers toasty.BrianLex KyOn Nov 25, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Garth wrote:I was wondering how I was going to fare wearing the Kinco Axeman mittens this morning @26 degrees, sunny and a light crisp dry fresh breeze. I wore the longer cuff Harbor Freight 7 mil nitrile gloves underneath, reversed so the slick inside glides with the fleece interior of the mitt. W U N D A B A H ! (pronounced like voon-da-bah) aka Wonderful ! I wasn't so sure about the feet either as usually below 32 has been cold toes with my Altra Trail runners, even with Showers Pass Mountain socks that are windproof and have some wool inside, supposedly. They weren't very warm by themselves, surprisingly, until this year I started wearing plastic grocery bags around my feet before I put the socks on. Now they're warm ! Vapor barriers for the win ! For more warmth I can place some plastic packaging pouches converted to toe booties inside my shoes. Plus I bought me some fancy Sportful Fiandre road specific jackets this fall, one of which aptly named "Warm" with a Gore Infinium wind stopping softshell and a laminated fleece lining. (Fiandre is Italian for Flanders, a region of Belgium famous for fabulous pro road races) The "Warm" jacket has all sorts of ventilation built into it, from a narrow strip of fleece running the length of the under arms, to the mesh caped upper back vent, to two small zippered side torso vents. It's a brilliant design. It's not meant for below freezing so I wore two light baselayer shirts, which I found is warmer than one thicker one, plus another Fiandre jacket on top of the baselayers and underneath the Warm. The Fiandre NoRain Light short sleeve jacket. Gawd is it awesome, the back is breathable rain resistant fabric and the rest is a thin wind stopping laminate that's noiseless and supple. Having that extra windproof fabric over the shoulders to the elbows makes a huge difference compared to vests. Very light and packable. All these Fiandre jackets are like hybrid jersey/jackets, they're meant to be very form fitting and over baselayers, like a jersey. All that with some nice warm Santini Aldo bib tights which I'm pretty sure is the heaviest/most dense fleece made road cycling wear. No wind blocking panels, minimal seams, just the dense and very supple "Roubaix" style fleece, smooth outside and fleecy inside. Riding in long low road position(notably less air resistance !) and having form fitting no flap clothing this year I've kept riding this fall whereas usually I would have given in to the cold for walking/hiking instead. Having a warm head of course is essential and I use combos of balaclavas, neck gaiters and Lowe Alpine Mountain Caps, which are the bees knees for anything in the cold. Goretex shell and fleece lining, with loops @ the chin for DIY securing under the chin. Mine are some 12 years old, but I see they still make them, albeit with their own proprietary waterproofing rather than a Gore product. https://mountainequipment.com/products/classic-mountain-cap-alpine-hat The brim is wired so bendable any which way, plus it snaps up under the little horizontal piece of fabric on the front. The main thing I get out the hat is that it is windproof, just like the socks. If my head is cold I have no chance to stay warm ! On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:42:53 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:Thanks. Those are warmer than PI Lobsters? I've been trying to sell my lobsters but no response, and I may just keep them; they'll fit inside the new leather/fleece-lined mittens for very cold mornings without (apparently; haven't yet ridden with this combo) binding or squashing.On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 10:35 AM Tim Donner wrote:I ride in Western Mass, this mornings ride was in the low 20s and these have been really toasty for me in temps down into the teens! GORE-TEX INFINIUM THERMO SPLIT GLOVES. I wear them on my drop bar and swept back bar bikes, with bar end and thumbie shifters respectively. I appreciate that they have XXXL, my palms are pretty big and this gives a snug yet roomy fit and gives me enough dexterity and they aren't super long on my fingers. Full price they are spendy but I have seen them on sale for closer to $50 in the past. On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 12:44:57 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:I bought a pair of size Large Guide Gear leather mittens with light fleece lining and inner wool mitten, sub $40. The wool mitten is thin, not at all like the heavy, almost felted wool mittens with my first pair of OR nylon/wool combo, but the OR combination was really too warm for my needs. The leather is good quality and supple, the stitching looks good, and they are labeled "waterproof." I daresay that the lining will wear but I wanted these for the leather outer mitts which

Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: 55cm Platypus frame or bike

2023-11-25 Thread Brian Turner

Congrats, Ben! I can’t wait to take a test ride!You’ve officially helped make Lexington a sleeper Riv owner hotspot.BrianLexington KYOn Nov 25, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:Congrats!!On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 12:36:32 PM UTC-5 bcom...@gmail.com wrote:I guess they added some back! all the 55s were definitely sold out last weekish. In between sending this email and having it approved to be posted i found a 55 lime olive for sale used and bought it, so im no longer searching, but good lookin out, thanks!benlexington ky On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 1:47 PM Johnny Alien wrote:Riv still has some 55 frames left in purple.On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 1:15:16 PM UTC-5 bcom...@gmail.com wrote:hey yall!Sadly I missed out on the Platy presale last month, and I’m searching for a 55cm Platypus frame. Complete bikes are also interesting. So for example if anyone got in on the presale, and has since changed their minds, let me know! thanksBenin ky

Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report - First Century on my Atlantis - and at all

2023-11-19 Thread Brian Turner

This all has me dreaming up a Riv owners overnighter or multi-day excursion along the C / W Would enough folks be interested in something like that? It’s a 7 hr drive for me to DC Metro area but I already make the trip once a year, so I have no problem doing it for a bike meetup!On Nov 19, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Eric Marth wrote:Looks fab, Nick. I've ridden just a little bit of the W out of Arlington to Mt. Vernon. I'm down the highway a piece in Fredericksburg. On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 7:40:52 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:Nice day for a long bike ride Nick ! The fall lighting makes for lovely photos indeed. On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 7:25:47 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:Nick, Very fun! Nice write-up. Great look'n bike too. On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:13:04 PM UTC-5 thetaper...@gmail.com wrote:Thanks again to you all for your kind responses! Bill -- that snapper's claw wasthe size of a kid's hand. It was probably about 20-22" long, and clearly the resident royalty for that section of the canal.Brians -- link to the route below. We took the W and cut north from Leesburg on back roads to the Point of Rocks Bridge, which is very traffic-laden and sketchy. There's one walkway on the northbound side about 30" wide and elevated 10" from the road. In hindsight, I should have walked it! https://strava.app.link/rGHbmmzVPEb — Point of Rocks Loop CenturyNick in FCOn Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 1:13:44 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:Yes, Nick… I would also be very interested in seeing your route. I’ve done the C several times, but had no idea there was a parallel rail trail across the Potomac starting at Point of Rocks, I assume? That seems like it would make a nice overnighter without having to retrace your route or get a shuttle.I spent a very harrowing night bike camping at one of those sites near Point of Rocks (Calico Rock, maybe?)… probably the worst storm I’ve ever been caught out in!BrianLexington KyOn Nov 18, 2023, at 11:16 AM, Brian McDermott wrote:Nick- What a classic NOVA ride! I grew up in Leesburg and have ridden countless miles on the W ranging from skating to school on it when I was a freshman at Loudoun County High School, up until a few years ago when my folks still lived in the area. I'd be interested in seeing your route and trying it sometime; I rode the GAP/C last year from Pitt to DC on my Hillborne, tried it again this fall on my Appaloosa, but my knee gave out on me by the time we reached Cumberland and I had to bail. This looks like it would be fun to try in the spring. On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:46:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:I want to know more about that turtle-shaped moss-covered rock! That guy is a bad ass. Excellent work Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 12:32:14 PM UTC-8 thetaper...@gmail.com wrote:A good friend and I managed around 105 miles last weekend. It was our (the Atlantis and my) first century.We made a long loop here in the D.C. area. First
out to Leesburg on the W trail. It took a while for the sun to
peek out from behind the autumn clouds, but when it did, all the frost
started sublimating, making it look as though we were riding through
clouds:Then wound our way northward to the Point Of Rocks bridge via rural
roads in Loudoun County, both paved and gravel of various types:And headed back to Georgetown on the C
Canal towpath. Then on home after dark via the Mount Vernon trail and southern end of the WWe happened upon a giant old snapper sunning next to the towpath that had an ecosystem living on its back:Around mile 65, we stopped for a break at one of the boat ramps near a lock house, with a lovely view of the Potomac:All
in all, it was a specacular though difficult (and, at times, cold
and/or dark) ride. No real mechanical issues aside from a dropped chain
here and there, for which we were both grateful. I feel that my Atlantis
was truly in its element, traversing nearly every type of passable
terrain with aplomb. I can't imagine having ridden anything else.Nick A.Falls Church VA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report - First Century on my Atlantis - and at all

2023-11-18 Thread Brian Turner

Yes, Nick… I would also be very interested in seeing your route. I’ve done the C several times, but had no idea there was a parallel rail trail across the Potomac starting at Point of Rocks, I assume? That seems like it would make a nice overnighter without having to retrace your route or get a shuttle.I spent a very harrowing night bike camping at one of those sites near Point of Rocks (Calico Rock, maybe?)… probably the worst storm I’ve ever been caught out in!BrianLexington KyOn Nov 18, 2023, at 11:16 AM, Brian McDermott wrote:Nick- What a classic NOVA ride! I grew up in Leesburg and have ridden countless miles on the W ranging from skating to school on it when I was a freshman at Loudoun County High School, up until a few years ago when my folks still lived in the area. I'd be interested in seeing your route and trying it sometime; I rode the GAP/C last year from Pitt to DC on my Hillborne, tried it again this fall on my Appaloosa, but my knee gave out on me by the time we reached Cumberland and I had to bail. This looks like it would be fun to try in the spring. On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 6:46:39 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:I want to know more about that turtle-shaped moss-covered rock! That guy is a bad ass. Excellent work Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CAOn Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 12:32:14 PM UTC-8 thetaper...@gmail.com wrote:A good friend and I managed around 105 miles last weekend. It was our (the Atlantis and my) first century.We made a long loop here in the D.C. area. First
out to Leesburg on the W trail. It took a while for the sun to
peek out from behind the autumn clouds, but when it did, all the frost
started sublimating, making it look as though we were riding through
clouds:Then wound our way northward to the Point Of Rocks bridge via rural
roads in Loudoun County, both paved and gravel of various types:And headed back to Georgetown on the C
Canal towpath. Then on home after dark via the Mount Vernon trail and southern end of the WWe happened upon a giant old snapper sunning next to the towpath that had an ecosystem living on its back:Around mile 65, we stopped for a break at one of the boat ramps near a lock house, with a lovely view of the Potomac:All
in all, it was a specacular though difficult (and, at times, cold
and/or dark) ride. No real mechanical issues aside from a dropped chain
here and there, for which we were both grateful. I feel that my Atlantis
was truly in its element, traversing nearly every type of passable
terrain with aplomb. I can't imagine having ridden anything else.Nick A.Falls Church VA

[RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-12 Thread Brian Turner

Kiley, I think the best answer for those who have long wheelbase issues, is
to get a rear rack with the dual rack arms that adjust to secure both
wheels of the bike (like the design of 1Up racks, or the Kuat Piston
series). The wheelbase limitations of the Kuat Piston series is 53 inches,
and I think most 1Up racks will handle a max. of 54 inches. Personally, I
have a Kuat NV2, but it only has an adjustable rack arm for the front
wheel, and a strap for the rear wheel. The max wheelbase on that style of
rack is 50 inches. My 54 (Medium) Gus has an exactly 50" wheelbase, so it
JUST fits. Anything longer would not.

I guess ease of personal transport and urban multi-modal transportation was
not a factor in the evolution of these bikes. They ride great, but it's a
very real and often frustrating issue that us owners have to work through.

Brian
Lex KY

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 12:39:40 PM UTC-5 Kiley Demond wrote:

Super-size the question: My Clem L is a 59; looking/considering a Clem L 64
for my HE (husband equivalent). How in the world do we transport these
behemoths? The idea is for some off-road, away-from-home adventures, but
the whole rack thing needs to be managed. We could remove wheels for
transport, but then need a rack that will take the 'L' Clems and grab the
frames.

Thank you for your collective wisdom!

Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing Down? Pocket ‘Pus.

2023-11-11 Thread Brian Turner

Here’s an outside the lines suggestion: find a lovely rim brake model Soma 
Buena Vista mixte and build it up similarly to your Platys. Use that as your 
“travel bike”. I’m thinking a 54cm would suit you based on what you’re 
currently comfortable riding with your Rivs. My wife has one, and it’s one of 
the best riding bikes I’ve ever been on, and probably the prettiest in our 
household. Actually, hers is red and kinda looks a lot like your raspberry 
Platy.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis date indicators

2023-11-10 Thread Brian Turner

Unless I’m mistaken, the “Atlantis 2” is what Grant decided to call it when the Rivendell Atlantis was conceived. This was because the original Atlantis - or “1” for the purposes of this discussion - was a Bridgestone offering.On Nov 10, 2023, at 6:15 PM, dylan green wrote:Thanks everyone. To build on this, was there any difference in the chainstay lengths between what I guess is considered the 1 and the 2 in question?On Nov 10, 2023, at 3:07 PM, R. Alexis wrote:A Waterford built Rivendell Atlantis will have a distinctive rear frame drop out. I think Henry James rear drop outs. The first Rivendell built there didn't. Grant has drop outs made specifically for the bikes. Looks like they went with the Waterford standard ones on the Atlantis. This is at least what I have noticed when looking at Atlantis frames/bikes out of Waterford. Thanks,Reginald AlexisOn Friday, November 10, 2023 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:Hi everyone - currently speaking with a seller of an atlantis 2 - dated 2011. This has the cream accent panel on the seat tube. My old atlantis had a 2 but no cream accent panel. Just to clarify, the 2 on the seat tubes does mean both are the 'Atlantis 2'? Given it's 2011 - would this be Toyo? It has the more ornate lugs...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis date indicators

2023-11-10 Thread Brian Turner

Look at the serial number on the BB shell. If the serial number wraps around the edge of the shell, it’s probably Waterford. If the number goes across (from L to R), then it’s probably Toyo. Also, Toyo should start with AT.My 2008 Toyo has the ornate, pointy lugs and lots of white detailing. I also have the “2” insignia inside a cream panel. My downtube “Atlantis” graphic also sports a tiny “2” in superscript next to the S.On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Ryan wrote:2011 could be Waterford On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:Hi everyone - currently speaking with a seller of an atlantis 2 - dated 2011. This has the cream accent panel on the seat tube. My old atlantis had a 2 but no cream accent panel. Just to clarify, the 2 on the seat tubes does mean both are the 'Atlantis 2'? Given it's 2011 - would this be Toyo? It has the more ornate lugs...

Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

2023-11-09 Thread Brian Turner

I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. So well done! 落On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky wrote:Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. Thank you!On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.-WesOn Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's southern interior.The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to work. It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that front fork.

Re: [RBW] Bike Rack

2023-11-09 Thread Brian Turner

Jacob, as a Kuat owner, I'm very curious as to what exactly happened with 
your rack? Which model do you have? What part failed when you say it "fell 
apart"?

-Brian

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:14 AM UTC-5 jacobir...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I have a Kuat and do yourself a favor and stay VERY clear of them. It fell 
apart and my bike almost fell off on the freeway. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-04 Thread Brian Turner

I share Ted’s praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best bike investments I’ve made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no problem, although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the max. wheelbase, they mean it.1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you think you’ll want to carry a friend’s bike who has fenders, you may want to consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will still securely hold the front wheel as long as you get it as close to the front edge of the fender as possible. Unlike the 1Up, there’s no rear swing arm on the Küat to clamp down on (and potentially deform) your rear fender. My Küat has carried multiple fendered bikes thousands of miles on long road trips with no issues whatsoever.On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Sally Bidleman <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.Appreciate this group!!On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W wrote:Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to availability at the time.On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:Hi all!Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!Sally

Re: [RBW] Re: Differences between Sam Hillborne and A Homer Hilsen

2023-11-04 Thread Brian Turner

Correct. I’ve seen the “w” caps on Toyo and Waterford Rivs alike.On Nov 4, 2023, at 5:45 PM, Greg J wrote:That seat stay cap was used across various models - I don't know if it is a Riv-sourced custom piece - but it doesn't have anything to do with Waterford (nor is it intended to be a "W" - just a decoration.On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:Here’s mine. A Toyo by its serial number and Frank’s pics. You can see one of the third water bottle mounts at the top in the photo.Year? I don’t know. I bought the frameset third-hand, six years ago, and thought it might be 2009 using some of the info on CycloFiend.DavidOn Friday, September 2, 2022 at 2:47:51 PM UTC-7 frank_a wrote:The serial number will tell you if it’s a Toyo or Waterford built frame.Toyo serial numbers are large and run across the bb shell while the Waterford numbers are smaller and are oriented around the shell, parallel to the outer edge. One photo is a Saluki and the other photo is a Waterford built Rosco.The Toyo Atlantis’ read: AT0001 and so on, Homer: AH0001SA0026 - the 26th Saluki- FrankOn Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:26:35 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:I looked on Cyclofiend and where they were visible, the Atlantises all appeared to have the W. It may not be related to Waterford after all.LaingOn Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:48:29 AM UTC-4 Danny wrote:The early Atlantis brochures show the W on the seat stay cap with Toyo being the only listed builder in the brochures. My Riv knowledge is not very deep, so perhaps Waterford was building the Atlantis as well at that time? or Riv was buying the seat stay caps from them?Atlantis 2001 brochureAtlantis 2002 brochure-DannyOn Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 7:41 AM Bill Schairer wrote:In general, is one not able to tell from the serial number?Bill SSan DiegoOn Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:That is a first class detail. Don’t believe it was on my formerly owned 2014 Waterford Atlantis so perhaps the W was featured on certain models? I am fond of concave seat stay caps though. Happy that they’re on my Sam.Best,Rich in ATLOn Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:06 PM, J J wrote:Laing, thanks for the interesting bit about Waterford-built frames. This is the first I hear. I never noticed the W as a deliberate W (as opposed to being strictly an embellishment) on my Waterford Hunqapillar, so it was cool to see it for what it is. I had to check the other Rivs in the stable, all Toyo built, and of course none has the W.Thanks again!On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:Don't Waterford frames have a distinctive seat stay end cap with a 'W" in the recess - my Bombadil does. This is a better picture from the Waterford site, but the same as my Bombadil:LaingOn Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:05:54 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:THAT'S it. I knew there was a difference between the two but couldn't remember the detail change. But I think yours is backwards, my recollection is Toyo had two sets of bottle bosses and the later Waterford got the third set. On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:01:05 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:Not sure that it is totally definitive but I expect the Toyo AHH to have three water bottle boss pairs and the Waterford to have two pairs (none under the down tube).David LipskyOn Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-7 James wrote:I have an older AHH. Anyone know how I can tell if it's Toyo or Waterford made?On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:I had an older MUSA AHH 61 (2006-ish?) and a Taiwan Sam 62 (2015-ish) with 2TT and for a brief spell I also had a 2TT 58. All of them were 700C. I should also say that they are all gone at this point, nothing wrong with them except my own unnecessary searching for the next shiny object.Both are amazing frames and can be set up very similarly - I think your tires, racks and handlebars would probably determine the feel and ride more than the frame geo, tubing or anything else.Some details on the way mine were set up: both had front and rear racks, sidepull brakes and short stems:AHH 700x38 + dropbarsSH 62 700x44 + dropbarsSH 58 700x42 + AlbatrossIt has been said that the Sam is burlier or that the tubing on the Homer is slightly lighter and the lugs are more elegant. To me, they were both equally capable, perhaps the 2TT Sam felt a tad stiffer particularly when loaded, but it certainly didn't feel slower. Also, at no point did I feel like my AHH couldn't carry as much as the Sam. Are you trying to decide which one you'd buy? If so, I would choose based on availability, color, badge, name, which one do you find more beautiful? Oh and sizing: which one fits you better? If you can find a frame where you fall in the middle of the suggested PBH range for either the Sam or the AHH I would choose that.Not sure if this helps, but I think Grant said it best when he said it was hard to tell one from the other when you were riding

Re: [RBW] Bluelug Visit to Rivendell (Video)

2023-10-30 Thread Brian Turner

I feel like the Gallop has existed in some unofficial form or another for forever now… at least in Riv time it has.On Oct 30, 2023, at 9:56 AM, eddietheflay wrote:It is interesting...cuz when you go this url it looks as though once there was a photo of that Gallop seen in the video...but not anymore in this blog: https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/grant-petersens-blog/augustOn Monday, October 30, 2023 at 5:46:53 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:I'm very confused by the Gallop now. They took what was a road frame on the lower price scale for RIvendell (the Roadini) and are going to replace it with a higher priced lugged road bike? Even though they already have the Homer that could fit that category well? It was originally designed to be a road bike for sweptback bars and v brakes (which is unique) and now it seems to be a drop/albastache bike that can be setup with sweptback bars if you like. There is just so much crossover with this frame now. Will even says "like a homer but with more standover space". But that was a Cheviot. I'm just a bit salty because the original dream of Clem priced, bars with sweep, and v brakes all on a road bike was something unique for them. But for me it doesn't matter because I have the proto-clem that checks all of those boxes.On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 2:38:59 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:Roman was fascinating to watch, he communicated with his hands in a way that (I think) signifies he knows ASL. I love that Spencer's only Riv is the original Road he got in '95. If you've ever seen it you know it's the most beausaged Rivendell in existence, it's practically a work of art! I also love that he said in front of Grant that he mostly rides his 2-speed Brompton and it's his favorite bike Dig the Gallop. I want one. Joe Bernard On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 8:53:27 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:I wish Grant had answered their questions about the two new frames on camera. Will and the other fellow didn't seem to remember/know what was going on in any detail.The Charlie looks like such I nice frame, the new lugs are beautiful and I think I can put up with the sidepulls. It will probably be my next frame purchase. I have time to save up the pennies too, I guess.The new Susie has it's swoop tube intersecting much higher on the seat tube. This is good. Definitely the weak point of the frame design.I am glad that I have my OG Susie though. The light tubing makes it such a great bike and I love the fillet brazing. Wouldn't change it for the world.

Re: [RBW] Re: The Places Our Bikes Take Us

2023-10-26 Thread Brian Turner

George, we drive up from Lexington, KY. We typically start around Milford, OH and pedal north towards Loveland and beyond. The trail has been closed at King’s Island for the past couple of years (for bridge construction), but if you hit it on the weekends, you can get through the barriers. For overnights, we typically ride 52 miles or so up to John Bryan State Park in Yellow Springs, OH, then ride back the next day.Richard - how far away is Yellow Springs from you? I’d certainly drive up there and pedal south towards KY, instead of making the usual S-N trip.- Brian On Oct 26, 2023, at 5:51 PM, George Schick wrote:Yeah, I too was wondering where he drives from in order to ride that Little Miami River trail. I used to live down there in some of those parts and am curious.On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:59:12 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:So you drive to Cinci, ride around 40 miles, camp for the night then ride back! Heck, I should join you sometime. More like a three hour drive one way for me. But…Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 26, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Brian Turner <brok...@gmail.com> wrote:Here's a photo from earlier this week. It's not a remote place, or extraordinary by any means, but it's special to me, and for me and my wife. At least once a month, we usually blow off work and drive 1.5 hours to Cincinnati to ride a portion of the Little Miami Scenic Bike Trail. It's part of the larger Ohio to Erie Trail, and is approx. 80 mi long. This is the trail that first introduced me to rail trails, and fostered in me a love of bike camping. We ride this trail to celebrate life events like birthdays and anniversaries, whenever we are feeling sad or restless, or whenever we want to take a nice scenic overnighter. Last month we did our first century together on this trail to celebrate our 23rd anniversary. This past Tuesday was an especially gorgeous Fall day, so we took advantage of the weather and the colors along the trail.

Re: [RBW] Re: Fender Installation and Usage Experiences

2023-10-26 Thread Brian Turner

Ted, I got mine by perusing Peter White Cycle's website. Actually, I called 
them up and talked with Linda at length about which size I should get. 
She's an absolute joy to speak with, and will do whatever it takes to 
answer your questions adequately.
She made sure they had them in stock, and shipped them to me within a 
couple of days.

I have dealt directly with Berthoud several times, and they are also 
amazing to work with. Kinda like Blue Lug, the shipping is more expensive 
of course, but the shipping times are incredibly - almost impossibly - fast.

-Brian


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[RBW] Re: Fender Installation and Usage Experiences

2023-10-26 Thread Brian Turner

Ted, have you looked at the fenders made by Berthoud? I recently called up 
Peter White and ordered a set for my new Atlantis project. They're 
stainless, and smooth, but more affordable than some of the other offerings 
you mentioned above. The best thing however, I only had to drill one hole 
to match up to my rear brake bridge mounting point. Everything else was 
pre-drilled (the stays, the hole near the bottom bracket / chainstay 
bridge, and the front fender crown). You still have to have some good 
attention to detail to get good, clean fender lines... but having almost 
all of your holes pre-drilled certainly takes almost all of the real stress 
out of the equation.

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[RBW] ISO: Berthoud Aspin / Aravis in brown or honey (natural)

2023-10-25 Thread Brian Turner

I realize this is probably a long-shot, but if anyone here has one of these 
that wasn't quite for them, and maybe looking to unload it, I am 
interested. After using these saddles for several years now, I've found 
that it's hard not having them on all my bikes.

thanks!

Brian
Lex KY

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[RBW] Re: FS: Fabio's Fanny bar bag, olive

2023-10-23 Thread Brian Turner

I've had this same bag for a few years now, and I've come to really love 
it. It's now my go-to handlebar bag for everyday riding. I use it across a 
couple of different bikes. Now, I'm not sure how practical it is as a fanny 
pack, but I'll occasionally take it off the bike and sling it over my 
shoulder if I go in somewhere. Just an endorsement from a happy Fab's Fanny 
user!

On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 2:49:41 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Or make offer and whatnot and such as. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> joeremi62 gmail com
>
> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 11:03:37 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/V6idpTbHRFyL8ydX8
>>
>> On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 8:55:36 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Purchased on one of these lists a while back, used twice. I'm again 
>>> reminded that I like most of my stuff in a large saddlebag which I already 
>>> own, I don't need this. You can try it! 
>>>
>>> $140 shipped
>>> Will post more pics (off the bike) soon 
>>>
>>> Thanks, 
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot_20231022_204846.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto rack, silver brakes, LX Rapid Rise, RMX pedals

2023-10-23 Thread Brian Turner

I have an R14, and it's more of a saddlebag support rack, or light loads.
The R15 has more of a structure on the sides to accommodate light panniers.
I wouldn't consider the R15 a heavy duty rack; maybe medium duty?

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 11:21 AM Kiley Demond  wrote:

> How does one tell an R14 from an R15? I believe I have the latter but I am
> not certain. What I *need* is the big one, an R33.
>
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 5:43:12 PM UTC-7 jeffbog...@hotmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> NOS Nitto R14 rear rack - $100
>> NOS Rivendell Silver brakes - $50
>> NOS LX RR rear derailleur - $50
>> RMX sneaker pedals - $20
>>
>> Rack, Brakes, Rear Derailleur used < 45 miles, perfect shape.
>> Please send PM for interest, thanks for looking!
>>
>> Jeff
>> (Alabama)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

2023-10-22 Thread Brian Turner

Yes, Richard! I’m in Lexington. I’ve just recently begun to do road rides here again after a long hiatus. I’d forgotten how incredibly pretty riding in horse country can be. On Oct 22, 2023, at 5:42 PM, Richard Rose wrote:Hello Brian. Lexington area I presume. I once did a ride (quite the adventure!) from Lexington airport to Frankfort & back. I remember stone walls like this one. It was a beautiful ride, a long time ago.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 22, 2023, at 4:13 PM, Brian Turner wrote:I pedaled out to a park in a neighboring county that I'd never been to. It was a nice creekside view with a picturesque dam, and I enjoyed watching a heron fish right below the dam. 40 mi ride on a perfect fall day.https://photos.app.goo.gl/8f1v8YABH7s7rxJGAhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/5sS1STEhTMW25mBL9https://photos.app.goo.gl/yhCQfNntuzPh1gKA8

Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

2023-10-22 Thread Brian Turner

I pedaled out to a park in a neighboring county that I'd never been to. It 
was a nice creekside view with a picturesque dam, and I enjoyed watching a 
heron fish right below the dam. 40 mi ride on a perfect fall day.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8f1v8YABH7s7rxJGA
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5sS1STEhTMW25mBL9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/yhCQfNntuzPh1gKA8


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[RBW] How do you fix your leather saddle creaks and squeaks?

2023-10-20 Thread Brian Turner

At some point this week, my new (to me) Atlantis developed a creak whenever
I pedaled. While standing and cranking, nothing... so saddle or seatpost,
right? The Brooks B17 I have on it is very old and broken in, and it has
never creaked before, but I decided to take it off, greased the rails, a
few drops of Tenacious Oil on the metal bits, cleaned and greased the
seatpost and clamp, cleaned out the seat tube with this long brush that I
have (think, long flexible bottle brush). Took it for a test ride, and the
creak was still there.

So, now I proceed to deep dive into this. Remove and regrease the pedals.
Pulled cranks and cleaned the chainrings. Replaced the rusty chainring
bolts. Greased spindles and crank bolts. I didn't really want to remove the
BB - even though that was a likely culprit - but I left it alone. New chain
installed. Tightened fender stays. Checked cable housing and stops. Greased
QR skewers. Test ride again. Creak still there, and maybe worse. Damn it!
Why didn't I just pull the BB while I had all that disassembled??

After all this, I suddenly remembered that I had an extra saddle in my
parts bin. I felt stupid for not putting this saddle on first thing to test
my initial theory. Sure enough, test ride proved NO CREAKING. A-ha! I'm an
idiot.

So, now to go full-on assault with this saddle creak. I flipped it over and
dabbed globs of Obenauf's around all the places where the metal
undercarraige meets the leather. Then, I took a heat gun (on low setting)
and melted the Obenauf's to let it ooze down into all those nooks and
crannies. I've never tried this approach before, but it seemed like an idea
that could possibly work well - for a while at least. Sure enough, it took
care of the creak. We'll see how long it holds up.

Do you have a good creak, or creaky saddle story? How did you take care of
it?

Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

2023-10-20 Thread Brian Turner

Maybe this is a good indication that the purple color is just not popular. 
It's had its run, so maybe this should be the last for it.

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:54:56 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I am also surprised there are so many frames left. And we don’t know how 
> many completes we started with so not sure how many sold. But the 55 Sergio 
> complete is long gone and some of the other sizes and colors of the 
> completes are dwindling. 
>
> At any rate, I am so excited for more people to experience the Platypus. 
> There is something special that goes into the Riv mixtes. I think of my 
> RivSisters who have been riding theirs into the finest beausage - Pam 
> Murray, on her 47 cm Betty which is approaching 75,000 miles since 2011, 
> Ana Candela on her custom PurpleRiv, and Caroline Golum, whose Betty 
> rival’s Pam’s. I hope to be among them one day, but my Platys are still 
> young. I enjoy every single ride and I never get enough. 
>
> Please post your new bikes when you can, friends. I’m so happy for you.
> Leah
>
> On Oct 20, 2023, at 8:29 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> Congrats to both you and your wife!
>
>
> Will said he felt like it would be a quick sell especially on the frames 
> alone but it appears there is still stock of the frames. He said they were 
> only getting like 20-some of those. Either sales have finally come way down 
> from their peak OR (and probably pretty likely) Will was way too good at 
> pumping the value of the completes and most people went for those.  I admit 
> they are fairly nice builds. There were lots of things I wanted to change 
> on my Clem but honestly most of whats on that complete Platy I would 
> probably keep.
>
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 7:08:29 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Got the 50cm ordered. Now we wait. I’m the meantime I think I’ll sit down 
>> with her and see which bits she’s like to use on this build to make it her 
>> own so that I can start looking around for them. 
>> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:39:09 AM UTC-4 schralp wrote:
>>
>>> I was in a similar situation last year and made the leap. I loved it 
>>> immediately and almost never ride my other bikes now. Struggled a little to 
>>> get the right saddle sorted but finally landed on a B67 which is perfect 
>>> for me and the way my platypus is configured for upright riding. Now, of 
>>> course, I have a couple of Brooks Flyers lying around but they will move to 
>>> a new home soon I hope. I’m not really quite sure what it is but the 
>>> platypus just glides; like it’s floating on air. I hope you have the same 
>>> experience I have had over the last year and a half or so. Enjoy!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 2:22:16 PM UTC-7 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 After 18 years of near daily riding, and a few attempts at hodge podge 
 80s mtn bikes turned commuters that have come and gone, I plan on getting 
 my first Riv, a Platypus. 

 It is an entirely unnecessary purchase. I have had a two bicycle quiver 
 for a majority of my adult life with resounding success. A Salsa Vaya and 
 various steel hardtail mtb’s, both capable of spirited or loaded riding 
 with more than enough comfort. 

 I now have the luxury of all my commuting to be done in a 6 mile 
 radius, 80% of the time. After incorporating silent retreats into my 
 meditation practice a few years ago, the last bit of riding “fast” has 
 lost 
 its appeal, and a slower, more intentional pace of life has pervaded the 
 way in which I move through the world (exceptions made for descending 
 technical singletrack ;). 

 This third addition, which I hope to have for another 18 years, will 
 help bring something incredibly near and dear to me—my daily bike 
 rides—into that realm.

 This is an impressive amount of money to spend on what most would 
 consider to be a simple, upright, commuter bike, featuring a sun race 
 drivetrain. Yet, still a bargain compared to traditionally built Riv’s. 
 However, we all know where the value lies. I will collect my own parts 
 slowly and make it my own. 

 A 55cm purple Platypus for me. As a designer, Im not in love with the 
 color. I find it a bit too saturated and flat, but at least it’s fun and 
 different. I think this should be the last Ana Purple run. There are far 
 too many glorious colors to have several Riv runs in one. I will close the 
 gap with letting go of seemingly unnecessary preferences, something I’ve 
 been experimenting with throughout my life lately with great success. 
 Something that seems in line with the Rivendell “way.”

 I hope to post an excessively thorough review of the bicycle, with a 
 ride report, through the lens of my background as an industrial designer, 
 engineer, and most importantly, human being. :) 

 Good luck to all! 

 On Thursday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Another Toyo Atlantis Build Thread

2023-10-14 Thread Brian Turner

Ah! Ok… sorry, when I zoomed in, I misread the tires as Naches Pass (which are 26”), instead of Hatcher Pass (700). So I thought it was one of the 26” models, like my 54.5 Toyo. Great work! Sorry you had to deal with a damaged frame, but it seems to have all worked out for the best!On Oct 14, 2023, at 3:49 PM, Brendan Willard wrote:58!Thanks,-Brendan WillardOwner/WinemakerPhantômé Cellarsphantomecellars.com Speaking in Thumbs On Oct 14, 2023, at 12:16 PM, Brian Turner wrote:Looks great, Brendan! What size? 53? 54.5?On Oct 14, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Brendan Willard in SF wrote:On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:42:53 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:42:07 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:41:24 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:I purchased this low miles Toyo Atlantis from a fellow who had it built up with a bunch of 9 speed era fast roadie parts. The bike arrived with a dent in the top tube, so I got a quote from Rick at D, contacted Bike Flights and they had insurance cut a check.The bike went to Rick and I decided on the Hunq green as I've never been a big fan of the original Atlantis color. The paint it beautiful, a bit more sparkly green apple than I expected but it's growing on me. It's a good match for my green and white Vans, bike lane paint, green waste bins, and Lime scooters (see the latest Riv email).I had some mismatched Paul levers, a nice SKF BB, some Salsa Rasta skewers, a Clem wheelset, and some other odds and ends. Bought a Clipper crankset, a Sycip Singles Bar, some Thumbies, XT V-Brakes, etc.I don't usually get down with blingy anodized stuff, but I'm really in love with the Rasta skewers and red of the SKF against the green frame. Should I order those anodized Wolftooth bolts?? HmmmAnyhooo. Here it is in front of my wife's N+1 pillow collection and around SF.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another Toyo Atlantis Build Thread

2023-10-14 Thread Brian Turner

Looks great, Brendan! What size? 53? 54.5?On Oct 14, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Brendan Willard in SF wrote:On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:42:53 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:42:07 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:41:24 AM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:I purchased this low miles Toyo Atlantis from a fellow who had it built up with a bunch of 9 speed era fast roadie parts. The bike arrived with a dent in the top tube, so I got a quote from Rick at D, contacted Bike Flights and they had insurance cut a check.The bike went to Rick and I decided on the Hunq green as I've never been a big fan of the original Atlantis color. The paint it beautiful, a bit more sparkly green apple than I expected but it's growing on me. It's a good match for my green and white Vans, bike lane paint, green waste bins, and Lime scooters (see the latest Riv email).I had some mismatched Paul levers, a nice SKF BB, some Salsa Rasta skewers, a Clem wheelset, and some other odds and ends. Bought a Clipper crankset, a Sycip Singles Bar, some Thumbies, XT V-Brakes, etc.I don't usually get down with blingy anodized stuff, but I'm really in love with the Rasta skewers and red of the SKF against the green frame. Should I order those anodized Wolftooth bolts?? HmmmAnyhooo. Here it is in front of my wife's N+1 pillow collection and around SF.

Re: [RBW] Bike Makeover Thread

2023-10-12 Thread Brian Turner

Yeah, the whole 26.8 seat tube limitation has got to be one of the most frustrating things about this era of Rivendell. On Oct 12, 2023, at 6:43 AM, Leah Peterson wrote:Ryan,That seat post is butt ugly. The only ugly thing on the bike. I like the setback it offers, and there are zero other options for that. Zero. This bike is unimprovable, save this one thing: the seat tube should have been 27.2 so I would have some OPTIONS. It’s my one sorrow.LeahOn Oct 11, 2023, at 10:54 PM, Ryan wrote:the grips are smashing.but nitto needs to make a 26.8 lugged seatpostfor that lovely bike.just sayingOn Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 8:57:32 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Raspberry Platypus BEFORE:AND After…On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:In the same vein as my Bike Style thread, I’m starting a Bike Makeover thread.Every now and then, I get the urge to change up the look of my favorite Platypus. I have it perfect mechanically, but bags and grips and occasionally, saddles, beg to be changed up. It’s fully autumn here in the Great Lakes State, and my ivory Rivet was looking a little out of season. I was gifted a chestnut Rivet from a dear RivSister, so I decided to pull it out and put it on the bike. I took the brown Ergons from my other Platypus, slapped them on and sent her a photo. “That bike deserves prettier grips. Those are ugly,” she said, giving me the unvarnished truth. I looked again. She was right. Back to the drawing board. I finally found these grips from Rivet Cycle Works - Deb told me she had these but didn’t have them up on the website yet. She had the exact match to my chestnut saddle and days later, I had these gorgeous stamped leather grips in hand. The bike looks positively tonal. The colors of the paint throw out so many different shades of pinks and reds, thanks to the abundant glitter in the metallic; adding rich leather accessories only elevates the look. The stamped designs on the leather give the bike some texture and add visual interest at the handlebar area. This Platypus is like a little autumn posey. Perfect and pretty, and wholly appointed to its duty.Now if I can just convince Deb to make these in ivory, so I have a pair to match my ivory Rivet saddle when spring comes…Attached in the next post are the before and afters.Leah

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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

2023-10-10 Thread Brian Turner

I didn't read that as a slight. I think we can all agree that it's the norm 
for just about any sort of organized ride, that the overwhelming majority 
of riders are wearing some sort of "kit", and that usually entails brightly 
colored, often logo / graphic heavy, form-fitting attire. Says nothing 
about the riders themselves, but I think there's a certain amount of 
refreshing individuality that's lacking in situations like that. When you 
choose to dress differently, especially when you ride a classically styled 
steel, lugged bicycle, you tend to stand out from the crowd. Sometimes, you 
may even get comments that seem condescending or back-handed because you 
are obviously "different" or simply because the commenter lacks a certain 
amount of social tact. Surely, as Rivendell enthusiasts, we've all 
experienced this to some extent. This reality is also the basis for Leah's 
posts about participating in her group rides, or the recent thread about 
style on the bike. I doubt any of us would be here if there wasn't just a 
bit of a nonconformist, "outside the mainstream" spirit in us.


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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-09 Thread Brian Turner

After plugging in my info to all three of these calculators, I get basically the same result - within 1 lb psi. SRAM’s loses points with me for only listing 650 and 700 as wheel size values (boo!).On Oct 7, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Ted W  wrote:Thanks for the link, Brian. I’m adding that to the collection of bookmarks under “bicycle related calculators. It’s so funny how they’re all so different given very similar information. It just goes to show you how subjective ride feel can be and how many factors have an effect.I’ve linked the other two calculators below for the curious:Silca calculator: https://silca.cc/pages/sppc-formSRAM calculator: https://axs.sram.com/guides/tire/pressureBetween all of these, Silca has always proven most reliable… but again, it’s highly subjective. I do like that there are additional parameters you can tweak on theirs, though. Jan’s seems a little too cookie cutter.On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 10:41 AM Brian Turner <brokeb...@gmail.com> wrote:I think I’ve run probably 5 sets of Rene Herse tires over the years; both with tubes and tubeless. I’ve actually found that I’ve had good luck referring to Jan’s tire pressure recommendations using his calculator, found here:Tire Pressure Calculatorrenehersecycles.comLike I said, I’ve used this and it’s worked pretty well for me, especially because I like to ride my bikes loaded down with gear. I also appreciate the meticulous, scientific approach that Jan takes to cycling. It’s not for everyone, but I kinda like it.On Oct 7, 2023, at 10:30 AM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:This is very interesting. I use the extralight Naches Pass at 30-35 and 35-40 f/r depending on load, and I feel no flop or sidewall collapse; not until pressures drop below 20 psi. The NPs do feel more staid, less nimble in turn-in than the 28 mm Elk Pass, this on the same bikes, but not at all squirrelly. They do make those "rubbing" sounds a bit, though.I wonder if front-end geometry has a lot to do with it? I've used the Naches Passes on road customs with, possibly, steeper, more agressive geometry than those ridden by the OPs; one of the bikes was Grant designed and the other is a geometrical and dimensional near-clone of a Grant design.Or rider weight? I'm 170-175, but then I often carry heavy-ish loads on the bike in question.What does feel a bit squirmy, not squirrelly, is the Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48s, even at a relatively hard 25 psi; it's as if the rubber is somehow soft and needs to harden. The tire makes "eraser on plastic" sounds when turning; but far from feeling squirrelly these tires (labeled 48, measure 51 on 35 mm OW rims) have transformed the handling of the Matthews #1 into the much more Riv-Road-like handling I wanted compared to the vagueness in turns of the ultralight 60 mm Big Ones.On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 8:08 AM Chris L <clampe...@gmail.com> wrote:"

felt like the front just flipped over on itself"That's a good description for what mine feels like.  I also notice they get really loud on sharp turns/curves when the tire is inflated to the psi that causes the bad handling.  The front tire doesn't do that when it's aired up very hard, but that largely negates the benefit of having a fat, supple tire.  I could run Big Apples at a much lower pressure and get the cushion effect without the squirrely front end handling, but they are just so heavy and both had a wobble in them, from the day I got them.  Not the first Schwalbe tires I've owned that wobbled, so I'm wary of the entire brand, now. On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:44:23 PM UTC-5 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:That squirrelly feeling is another thing I noticed with the Naches Pass on my Surly. It was actually the cause of a crash I had on that bike. Front end got all squirrelly on me mid corner and it felt like the front just flipped over on itself... I always attributed it to having stretched out the fit on a too-small frame (I’m 6’1” and bought a 54cm Long Haul Trucker to be able to have it in 26” wheels) and the us having shifted my center of gravity too far off the where the frame intended but having now heard a couple people here mention the feeling on the same slick tires, I’m wondering if it’s not the tires on more “touring” geometry frames, that pneumatic vs geometric trail thing that was mentioned earlier. Very interesting indeed!



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Re: [RBW] Re: New Platypus Lug

2023-10-09 Thread Brian Turner

It’s a lug that could use a little something to make it look less klunky. I’m not a fan of the part that connects the stays… To me it looks like old plumbing fittings. If it were shaped a bit more elegantly, it would look so much better.On Oct 9, 2023, at 7:51 AM, DavidP wrote:Keith, the BB shell is lugged on the previous model. It's hard to see in most photos but the current Platypus page on the Riv site has a photo of a bare frame. I've attached a cropped portion of that image.-DaveOn Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:30:55 AM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:Interesting how our tastes are so individual. I greatly prefer the lugged joint. I was looking at the pictures in the newsletter, without consciously noticing what had changed, and thinking to myself: "why did I dismiss this model until now? These are just about perfect." Does anybody know if the bottom bracket shell is lugged? Tigged? Fillet brazed?On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 5:44:36 PM UTC-6 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:Gonna say I’m also more a fan on the fillet brazed variant but I can understand from a cost and production standpoint why they might have switched, lugs being easier to produce with less skill (relatively speaking). Shame, though. The fillet brazing on the Gus was one of the big attractions to me. It really enhances that swoopy, flowy look to me.On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jason Fuller wrote:I hadn't noticed this! I liked the fillet brazed junction better too but it definitely looked like a pain in the butt to fabricate. The new lug (old lug - I am sure Allan's right) does have a clean and tidy look too. A friend's Platy has a pretty noticeable blem in the brazing too, maybe evidence it was problematic for Maxway. On Sunday, 8 October 2023 at 06:54:04 UTC-7 Marc Irwin wrote:Cost was probably involved. The fillet brazing on the original Platypus would be very time consuming and more difficult in a factory setting than connecting a few tubes with lug.MarcOn Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:50:25 PM UTC-4 allan@gmail.com wrote:Perhaps they dusted off the Betty Foy/Yves Gomez lug…On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 3:23:46 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:Looks like the new run of Platy's are getting a lugged top/seat tube, where as the previous models were welded. Very nice.

Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-07 Thread Brian Turner

I think I’ve run probably 5 sets of Rene Herse tires over the years; both with tubes and tubeless. I’ve actually found that I’ve had good luck referring to Jan’s tire pressure recommendations using his calculator, found here:Tire Pressure Calculatorrenehersecycles.comLike I said, I’ve used this and it’s worked pretty well for me, especially because I like to ride my bikes loaded down with gear. I also appreciate the meticulous, scientific approach that Jan takes to cycling. It’s not for everyone, but I kinda like it.On Oct 7, 2023, at 10:30 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:This is very interesting. I use the extralight Naches Pass at 30-35 and 35-40 f/r depending on load, and I feel no flop or sidewall collapse; not until pressures drop below 20 psi. The NPs do feel more staid, less nimble in turn-in than the 28 mm Elk Pass, this on the same bikes, but not at all squirrelly. They do make those "rubbing" sounds a bit, though.I wonder if front-end geometry has a lot to do with it? I've used the Naches Passes on road customs with, possibly, steeper, more agressive geometry than those ridden by the OPs; one of the bikes was Grant designed and the other is a geometrical and dimensional near-clone of a Grant design.Or rider weight? I'm 170-175, but then I often carry heavy-ish loads on the bike in question.What does feel a bit squirmy, not squirrelly, is the Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48s, even at a relatively hard 25 psi; it's as if the rubber is somehow soft and needs to harden. The tire makes "eraser on plastic" sounds when turning; but far from feeling squirrelly these tires (labeled 48, measure 51 on 35 mm OW rims) have transformed the handling of the Matthews #1 into the much more Riv-Road-like handling I wanted compared to the vagueness in turns of the ultralight 60 mm Big Ones.On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 8:08 AM Chris L  wrote:"

felt like the front just flipped over on itself"That's a good description for what mine feels like.  I also notice they get really loud on sharp turns/curves when the tire is inflated to the psi that causes the bad handling.  The front tire doesn't do that when it's aired up very hard, but that largely negates the benefit of having a fat, supple tire.  I could run Big Apples at a much lower pressure and get the cushion effect without the squirrely front end handling, but they are just so heavy and both had a wobble in them, from the day I got them.  Not the first Schwalbe tires I've owned that wobbled, so I'm wary of the entire brand, now. On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:44:23 PM UTC-5 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:That squirrelly feeling is another thing I noticed with the Naches Pass on my Surly. It was actually the cause of a crash I had on that bike. Front end got all squirrelly on me mid corner and it felt like the front just flipped over on itself... I always attributed it to having stretched out the fit on a too-small frame (I’m 6’1” and bought a 54cm Long Haul Trucker to be able to have it in 26” wheels) and the us having shifted my center of gravity too far off the where the frame intended but having now heard a couple people here mention the feeling on the same slick tires, I’m wondering if it’s not the tires on more “touring” geometry frames, that pneumatic vs geometric trail thing that was mentioned earlier. Very interesting indeed!



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Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

2023-10-05 Thread Brian Turner

Thanks for the offer, Stephen but I already have a stem that I'm
considering replacing... but I may also end up sticking with the current
stem (60mm Technomic) because I intend to go a little wider on the bars.
Going with wider bars AND a slightly longer stem may end up pushing my
reach a little too far out, but I'm going to experiment with it.

-Brian

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 9:45 PM Stephen Durfee  wrote:

> Looks fantastic so far!   What stem do you currently have?  I might have
> something to trade.
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 3:07:22 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> *sorry, that should be Nitto NR 20 mini rack... not R20
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 6:05:23 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan - yes, it's a saddlebag support. Nitto R20 canti; made for 26"
>>> wheeled frames. I've grown accustomed to primarily running transverse-style
>>> bags (front and back) instead of racks and panniers, so this was a cute
>>> little buddy that I felt this bike wouldn't be complete without.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very nice.i guess the tiny rack is for a saddle bag?
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Extremely good tones, Brian!
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like a perfect fit.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jock
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here
>>>>>>>> this past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a 
>>>>>>>> bit of
>>>>>>>> work to get it to where I want it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly
>>>>>>>> been adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from 
>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>> in this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken 
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> on a couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire 
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> of replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it 
>>>>>>>> rides
>>>>>>>> like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 
>>>>>>>> PBH,
>>>>>>>> riding my saddle height at around 72cm).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these
>>>>>>>> Mavic X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that 
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>> Nitto bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider 
>>>>>>>> Noodles,
>>>>>>>> and a slightly longer stem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for lookin'.
>>>>>>>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

2023-10-04 Thread Brian Turner

*sorry, that should be Nitto NR 20 mini rack... not R20

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 6:05:23 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

> Ryan - yes, it's a saddlebag support. Nitto R20 canti; made for 26" 
> wheeled frames. I've grown accustomed to primarily running transverse-style 
> bags (front and back) instead of racks and panniers, so this was a cute 
> little buddy that I felt this bike wouldn't be complete without.
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Very nice.i guess the tiny rack is for a saddle bag?
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Extremely good tones, Brian! 
>>>
>>> Looks like a perfect fit. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls. 
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jock
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here 
>>>>>> this past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a bit 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> work to get it to where I want it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly been 
>>>>>> adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from folks in 
>>>>>> this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken it 
>>>>>> on a 
>>>>>> couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire need of 
>>>>>> replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it rides 
>>>>>> like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 PBH, 
>>>>>> riding my saddle height at around 72cm).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these Mavic 
>>>>>> X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that little Nitto 
>>>>>> bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider Noodles, 
>>>>>> and a 
>>>>>> slightly longer stem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for lookin'.
>>>>>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Another 26" Atlantis build

2023-10-04 Thread Brian Turner

Ryan - yes, it's a saddlebag support. Nitto R20 canti; made for 26" wheeled 
frames. I've grown accustomed to primarily running transverse-style bags 
(front and back) instead of racks and panniers, so this was a cute little 
buddy that I felt this bike wouldn't be complete without.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Very nice.i guess the tiny rack is for a saddle bag?
>
> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:06:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Extremely good tones, Brian! 
>>
>> Looks like a perfect fit. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 4:59:17 PM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow ! Nice work. I love the brown leather and gum walls. 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 1:32 PM John Dewey  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Beautiful bike, Ryan. Good to go for decades!
>>>>
>>>> Jock
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Looks like these old 26"ers are getting a lot of love around here this 
>>>>> past week. I thought I'd share mine, even though I still have a bit of 
>>>>> work 
>>>>> to get it to where I want it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I received this 54.5cm Toyo about two weeks ago, and have slowly been 
>>>>> adding and subtracting, with lots of bits mostly acquired from folks in 
>>>>> this community. The bike itself was in superb condition. I've taken it on 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> couple of easy rides because the housing and cables are in dire need of 
>>>>> replacing, and I just haven't gotten around to that yet... but it rides 
>>>>> like a dream, and seems to fit me really well (I'm 5' 8", with a 83 PBH, 
>>>>> riding my saddle height at around 72cm).
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_6529.jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>> I added the RH 1.8" Naches Pass tires (measure at 41mm on these Mavic 
>>>>> X717 rims), installed some Berthoud fenders, and added that little Nitto 
>>>>> bag support on the rear. Next up is a front rack, some wider Noodles, and 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> slightly longer stem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for lookin'.
>>>>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Build in progress

2023-10-04 Thread Brian Turner

Yes, the older “legacy” Atlantis sizes were 26” up to size 56cm. There was also a 650b 56cm for a short time. So, at one point there were three wheel sizes across the spectrum of Atlantises being offered.On Oct 4, 2023, at 7:01 AM, Ted W wrote:Pardon my ignorance but how are you running 26” wheels? I was unaware that the Atlantis ever came I’m a size with that option. Is it spec’d for 650B and running 26” or was there a time when the Atlantis was 26”?On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 12:34 AM Eliot Balogh wrote:Off to a great start! Where did you get those barrel adjusters and mounting bolts ?On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:07 PM Old And In The Weeds wrote:56cm Atlantis 2 with 26" wheels. Taking my timeon this one!Nick

Re: [RBW] WTB: Paul rack adapters

2023-10-03 Thread Brian Turner

Rack adapters acquired! Thanks everyone!

- B

On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:

> Hi Ted! Thanks for the reply. I believe that's just an M6x20mm hex bolt. 
> I'm guessing Paul would send you a set if you reached out to him. I've 
> found he's pretty cool about stuff like that. Also, I could send you mine 
> and you can give me a price you'd want for your rack mounts (consider the 
> partial value of the bolts to you) if you wanted to go that route. Let me 
> know what you'd like to do!
>
> -Brian
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:22 PM Ted W  wrote:
>
>> Hey, Brian,
>>
>> I've got a set of these that I no longer use but I've misplaced the 
>> original bolts so I can't get rid of them until I either find them or a 
>> suitable replacement. If you, or anyone on the list, are able to help with 
>> that I'd be happy to part with them for a reasonable price.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:33 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>>> If you're sitting on a pair of these and wish to let them go, I'd be 
>>> interested! I already have one set, but need another.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Brian
>>> Lexington KY
>>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What shoes does your Riv wear?

2023-10-03 Thread Brian Turner

Here’s what I’m running:Gus - 27.5 x 2.5” Teravail EhlineToyo Atlantis - 26” x 1.8” RH Naches PassI’ve been super impressed with the Teravail Ehlines. Sure, it’s a burly dirt / gravel tire, but they roll surprisingly fast and quiet on pavement. Quieter than a set of Teravail Sparwoods that I have on another bike (those buzz like crazy). I’m at just under 1,000 mi on these Ehlines and it’s been mostly paved riding. The tread still looks great! I’m kinda shocked, actually.On Oct 3, 2023, at 7:19 AM, exliontamer wrote:My bikes:Toyo Atlantis - 700x42 Continental Contact SpeedCheviot - 700x38 Blue Lug Fairweather CruiseKatie's bikes:Platypus - 650x42 RH Babyshoe PassRoadini - 700x35 RH Bon Jon PassOn Monday, October 2, 2023 at 11:09:12 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:My Hillborne is currently running Panaracer ProTite 650b x 42. I've used various Protite tires over the years in 26" and 700, and find that for mixed terrain (mostly pavement, some gravel, a little single-track, and lots of urban commuting) these tires are fantastic. The same tread pattern as Paselas with good grippy tread but not knobby. I'm also a big fan of the Gravelkings and Gravelking SKs, but I find the regular Gravelkings are fairly flat-prone for city commuting, and the SKs are a bit slower on pavement.I absolutely love the performance of Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass tires (650 x 42) but find that after about 1K miles, I start getting constant flats, and can't justify $75 for a tire that only gets that kind of mileage unless I'm just using them for touring.Mike MOn Monday, October 2, 2023 at 8:26:17 AM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:I’ve had tires on the brain this last week. I was thinking I might want to try something a little narrower on my Appaloosa so I’ve been a bit absorbed with that thought.At the moment I run the SimWorks Super Yummy tire with the black sidewall in 29x2.25”. I previously had their 26x2.25” tan wall tires on a 26” build and absolutely loved them on that bike. Unfortunately, in the larger size, with the sort of riding I do (spirited, urban, all-road) I find the tires sluggish and a bit unpredictable at times. Combined with the 25mm wide rim I use, the tires measure to close to 60mm wide.I was thinking about trying to find a tire with a more rounded profile and something that would be a bit narrower, somewhere in the 44-48mm range to start.I’ve been looking primarily at the Rene Herse tires. I have a friend who runs the Pumpkin Ridge (650x42) tire on his bike of a similar purpose and absolutely loves them. I’ve used the Naches Pass (26x1.8) on another build and also liked them a lot, but found that despite being the “endurance” casing, they were very prone to small punctures and didn’t handle the typical road debris around where I ride very well; this is one of the reasons I’ve typically stuck with knobbier tires.The ones on my short list are currently the Manatash Ridge (700x42) and Oracle Ridge (700x48) tires from RH.I’m curious to know and see what others on the list use and have liked. If you have pictures, I’d also love to see what they look like (particularly 42mm on frames like the Appaloosa).— Ted

Re: [RBW] WTB: Paul rack adapters

2023-10-02 Thread Brian Turner

Hi Ted! Thanks for the reply. I believe that's just an M6x20mm hex bolt.
I'm guessing Paul would send you a set if you reached out to him. I've
found he's pretty cool about stuff like that. Also, I could send you mine
and you can give me a price you'd want for your rack mounts (consider the
partial value of the bolts to you) if you wanted to go that route. Let me
know what you'd like to do!

-Brian

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 1:22 PM Ted W  wrote:

> Hey, Brian,
>
> I've got a set of these that I no longer use but I've misplaced the
> original bolts so I can't get rid of them until I either find them or a
> suitable replacement. If you, or anyone on the list, are able to help with
> that I'd be happy to part with them for a reasonable price.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 12:33 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> If you're sitting on a pair of these and wish to let them go, I'd be
>> interested! I already have one set, but need another.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Brian
>> Lexington KY
>>
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[RBW] WTB: Paul rack adapters

2023-10-02 Thread Brian Turner

If you're sitting on a pair of these and wish to let them go, I'd be 
interested! I already have one set, but need another.

Thanks!
Brian
Lexington KY

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist 54cm Hunqapillar, $2250, Sunnyvale CA

2023-10-01 Thread Brian Turner

It’s always good to double-check these things, especially with Craigslist items. My experience has been that even with Rivendell owners, who you think would be able to accurately assess and describe what they are selling - sometimes they just get it wrong. I purchased a “52cm” Surly for my wife via eBay once, only to receive the bike and discover that it was really a 50cm. I was pretty upset, but mostly at myself for trusting the word of the seller, and not getting visual confirmation. More recently, I was inquiring about a “Waterford Atlantis” that turned out to be a Toyo upon inspection of the serial #. The owner had been certain the whole time they owned the bike that is was MUSA, based on something Grant had said when the bike was originally purchased. Always double-check!On Oct 1, 2023, at 12:21 PM, Eliot Balogh wrote:Y’all are a bad influence On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 8:51 AM wrote:At this price I’m surprised it’s not sold! If I had the cash I’d already have made the time to go see if it fits, no matter the question of size! On Oct 1, 2023, at 08:28, m f wrote:So, looking at a Hunqspec sheet and I don’t see a 51 listed. Dylan- when you discussed geometry, how did you land on “51”?On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 9:24:20 PM UTC-5 Erik wrote:Shoot. A 54 and I would have driven to Sunnyvale tonight to buy that. This was the bike I wanted before I got my first Riv. On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 1:00:11 PM UTC-7 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:it's actually a 51...i emailed with the sellerOn Friday, September 29, 2023 at 3:16:52 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:Dang…On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 2:21 PM John P. in SF wrote:Not mine...https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/sunnyvale-rivendell-hunqapillar/7671471793.html

Re: [RBW] FS: Assorted stuff; Nitto, VO, Baggins, Brooks, etc!

2023-09-28 Thread Brian Turner

As I'd expected, pretty much all of the Riv-centric and Riv-adjacent stuff 
has sold, so I'll chill on these updates for a while. Thanks to everyone 
for looking, and purchasing stuff from me!
Here's the updated list of what is left:

*PHOTOS HERE: *

*Soma Champs Elysees stainless front rack - $80*
Comes with additional hardware and diving board.
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/18575-soma-rack-champs-
elysees-stainless-front-3496?category=704#attr=

*Salsa Cowchipper Deluxe gravel drop bars 46cm - $50*
31.8 clamp dia.
https://www.salsacycles.com/gear/cowchipper_deluxe

*Velo Orange 1-1/8 threadless stem, 90mm, 15 deg +/-, 25.4 clamp - $10*

*King Cage (standard), with robin's egg blue Cerakote coating - $25*
Purchased from Analog, lightly used.
*the liter cage next to it in the photo has been spoken for

*Brooks Cambium C17 carved Chris King limited edition - $100*
Dark grey with turquoise rivets. Very clean. Purchased from a member here.


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