[RBW] Re: Nitto R-14 top rack on a Roadeo: Sacrilege?
Rubber-lined clamps can discolor the paint beneath them. This is especially obvious on light-colored bikes. I'd suggest a wrap of bar tape or rim tape under the rubber to protect your paint. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:10:41 AM UTC-4, Forrest wrote: Would use rubber-lined clamps on the seat stays, and the long struts bolted to fender braze-ons at the rear dropouts. Could just use a true saddlebag sans rack, but I am overly fond of my Arkel Tail Rider trunk bag. It only weighs a pound, and I usually never have more than 7-9 pounds of stuff in it, max, often more like 5-6 pounds. But it is bullet-proof and waterproof and expandable, and what if I come across a box turtle that I would like to take home to my wife as a present (she's turtle-crazy)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FV5Vem9PzwsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
I'm 5'3 and I ride a 47 cm Atlantis. Most small frames have very steep seat tubes. Rivendell is the only company I'm aware of that has the same seat tube angles on their smallest frames as on the large sizes. By the way -- I'm sorry to see so much emphasis recently on 650 B wheels. 26 wheels are a better fit for small riders, and tall riders already have 700 C. It would be better to develop wheel sizes smaller than 26 or larger than 700c -- that would enable better designs for short and tall people. Just my 2 cents. Lisa On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 8:22:35 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote: it's certainly off topic. i'm short--i say average--but my roommates in college were always quick to point out the harvard study saying short guys are doomed to be poor. you can't buy happiness-but you can buy riv's which will make you happy for almost forever--so in bike sense you can. and i'm still short...(but the stars aligned in my riv-favor for once). but it seems like the average height- based off the frames that pop up for sale or the photos posted-of a rivendell rider is about 8 feet tall--some guys are just born lucky i suppose. there's gotta be short guys/gals out there...but then again grant says small frames don't sell ... i'm super duper happy on my 51cm...average i say not short... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_zueS9zgvHUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lights for Nitto racks
Hi Anne, I have the Nitto Big front rack with a flat plate as you describe. I use the plate to mount a reflector -- I don't like having a light that far forward. My headlight is a Planet Bike Blaze 2W, designed to clamp on a handlebar. To mount my light on the rack, I use a Velo Orange small-diameter band clamp and a Nitto Lamp holder (link below) to create a place to clamp the handlebar mount. This puts the light on the side of my rack in a good place that doesn't interfere with low-mount panniers, an Ortlieb handlebar bag, or even a Wald basket on the rack platform. Photo of my bike with the light mounted on the rack (look in front, just below the basket): http://tinyurl.com/7q2lt3q Nitto Lamp holder link: http://tinyurl.com/72z7qca Lisa On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:11:54 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: Probably some of you have those Nitto racks Rivendell sells. Great racks. Front and rear both have a flat plate, with a hole facing forward/backward, for (I assume) mounting a light. Can anyone name a front light (dyno-powered or battery-powered) or a rear battery-powered light that I could buy that comes with hardware suitable for mounting on a flat plate like the Nitto has? I'm mechanically challenged and can't figure out how to mount a light on one of those racks. Except an IQ Cyo, which I think will soon grace my touring bike. But that leaves rear lights or blinkies for my bike and my son's beautiful apple green Rambouillet. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uVKOQoI8F7MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Coast Rivendells / BOBs
I'm in Boston and I ride an Atlantis. Last year I rode the MassBikePike (www.massbikepike.org), a 4-day supported tour in western MA. It's always a fun and friendly ride. Out of 125 bikes for 2011, there were 5 Rivendells: two 47 cm Atlantises (mine and one other) and a 650B Bleriot, ridden by women, and two Sams (one green and one orange, both 700c), ridden by men. Photos of all but the green Sam here: Rivs on MassBikePike2011 http://tinyurl.com/76ardtx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/r0HFYToRd7kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
I rode the CO / GAP from DC to McKeesport with my family this past summer (2011). It was a great ride. The CO is rough and muddy in spots, but the GAP has a very nice crushed-stone surface. I got on some mailing lists (paper, not email) connected with these trails. From these, my understanding is that the last missing mile of the GAP was opened in November. That would mean it's now possible to ride all the way into Pittsburgh (crossing Monongahela on the Hot Metal Bridge!) The Pittsburgh Amtrak station does have baggage service and bike boxes -- my family used this option to return to DC. Boxing a bike for Amtrak requires only minimal disassembly (remove pedals and turn handlebars). I believe that Cumberland also has baggage service. But it would sure be nice if the roll-on service were ready by summer. Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8u9H_2GmGWIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: So Torn, Cannot Decide
If you really want to go, and have the time, you can make your trip to Harris Cyclery car-free. Take Amtrak from NYC to Boston' s South Station. You can take the Acela or the Northeast Regional train. Then take the commuter rail (Worcester line) from South Station to West Newton station. Harris Cyclery is less than a block away from the station. For maps and schedules, see www.mbta.com. -- Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OrlJJ2v9tkwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!
What sort of handlebars does your wife want on her Betty Foy? I'm a little shorter than your wife, but pretty close (5'3, saddle height of 625 mm) and I ride a 47 cm Atlantis with drop bars (60 mm stem and short-reach bars). My Atlantis has a top tube length of 520 mm. The 52 cm Betty Foy, with a similar seat tube angle, has an (effective) top tube of 575 mm. It may fit with Albatross bars, but with drop bars, it would almost certainly be much too long for a 5' 4 woman. It might be nice to test a 47 cm Foy as well as a 52 cm, if you can arrange to do it. Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e06XvwPcvSoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride
Larabars are mostly dates with just a couple of additional ingredients (no chemicals), depending on the flavor. For instance, the cashew cookie flavor contains just dates and cashews. They are convenient for long rides since they come wrapped in serving-sized portions. I like the boxes of 12 mini-bars; one of those minis every hour or so is about right for me when I'm on a daylong ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DEuJY_eCkRoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Test
I have also twice tried unsuccessfully to start a new thread today, using the New post button on the Discussions page at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/topics. Is there another way? Lisa On Jul 28, 10:01 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I'll try the long post again... Sent from my iPhone 4 On Jul 28, 2011, at 6:46 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: seems to have worked. On 28 July 2011 09:33, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to post twice without success. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Test
Thanks, Jim, I tried again on the new site and it seems to have worked -- Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_InAXbYHysMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Boston Harbor ride report
Hi -- I haven't started a thread here before, but I thought people might be interested in a different kind of ride report -- an urban ride rather than a rural one. Last Sunday, I took my Atlantis on a tour of parks, greenways, and urban wilds on north side of Boston Harbor. The ride leader is a longtime local parks and greenways activist who was instrumental in getting some of the bikeways built. Although I've lived in Boston for years, I had never seen most of these places. My photos are mostly of parks and water views, but we also passed through local town centers and heavy-duty warehouse zones, including one stretch of the roughest road I've ever ridden that was nominally paved. Fortunately, on a Sunday, there was no traffic on the roughest bits, so we were free to pick our way around the patches and potholes. The ride was billed as 30 miles, but we did some meandering and I rode to and from the start point, so my total for the day was 51 miles. My photos: http://tinyurl.com/3qhencq Web site about this ride: http://www.masspaths.org/rides/DeerIsland2010.html (Note: this is an annual ride. The web site is current for the 2011 ride, even though it still says 2010.) Cheers, Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Zmuc_9MfD8sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Test
I spoke too soon -- my (third attempt at) posting, done via the new web site, showed up in my mailbox with the [RBW] added to the subject line. But I don't see it on the RBW Owners Bunch group web site. Rene, how did you make it work? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bBIqeGysUuwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Boston Harbor ride report
Thanks, Rene! Funny, I can't see my own post, but your reply shows up!?! Just in case anyone is mystified, below I've repeated what Rene is replying to. Very sorry for any multiples, I'm having trouble with the posting mechanism on Google Groups. -- Lisa -- original post here -- Hi -- I haven't started a thread here before, but I thought people might be interested in a different kind of ride report -- an urban ride rather than a rural one. Last Sunday, I took my Atlantis on a tour of parks, greenways, and urban wilds on north side of Boston Harbor. The ride leader is a longtime local parks and greenways activist who was instrumental in getting some of the bikeways built. Although I've lived in Boston for years, I had never seen most of these places. My photos are mostly of parks and water views, but we also passed through local town centers and heavy-duty warehouse zones, including one stretch of the roughest road I've ever ridden that was nominally paved. Fortunately, on a Sunday, there was no traffic on the roughest bits, so we were free to pick our way around the patches and potholes. The ride was billed as 30 miles, but we did some meandering and I rode to and from the start point, so my total for the day was 51 miles. My photos: http://tinyurl.com/3qhencq Web site about this ride: http://www.masspaths.org/rides/DeerIsland2010.html (Note: this is an annual ride. The web site is current for the 2011 ride, even though it still says 2010.) Cheers, Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qZQ-HBAoMK8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Boston Harbor ride report (4th attempt)
Hi -- I haven't started a thread here before, but I thought people might be interested in a different kind of ride report -- an urban ride rather than a rural one. Last Sunday, I took my Atlantis on a tour of parks, greenways, and urban wilds on north side of Boston Harbor. The ride leader is a longtime local parks and greenways activist who was instrumental in getting some of the bikeways built. Although I've lived in Boston for years, I had never seen most of these places. My photos are mostly of parks and water views, but we also passed through local town centers and heavy-duty warehouse zones, including one stretch of the roughest road I've ever ridden that was nominally paved. Fortunately, on a Sunday, there was no traffic on the roughest bits, so we were free to pick our way around the patches and potholes. The ride was billed as 30 miles, but we did some meandering and I rode to and from the start point, so my total for the day was 51 miles. My photos: http://tinyurl.com/3qhencq Web site about this ride: http://www.masspaths.org/rides/DeerIsland2010.html (Note: this is an annual ride. The web site is current for the 2011 ride, even though it still says 2010.) Cheers, Lisa (my apologies if anyone sees multiples of this posting) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eAthXA-Hr2oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Test
Hi Jim, I tried again about 5 minutes ago, clicking New topic on the linked page as you suggested. This time the subject line was Boston Harbor ride report (4th attempt). I'm sorry to report that it seems to have gotten lost again. This time it didn't appear in my email either. Thanks for your help -- Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0gtPwiThUJ8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Riders Brooks Saddle....?
Have people seen this post about Rivendell on the blog on Brooks' web site? It's dated July 4, 2011. http://blog.brooksengland.com/wps/rivendell/ (apologies if this is old news, I just noticed it) Lisa On Jul 22, 9:40 pm, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: The story I'd like to hear is to what degree Rivendell propped up Brooks in the late '90s. Sure, Harris and Wallingford sold some, but to my memory, Riv's tireless advocacy largely resurrected the US market for Brooks after it had almost died. I've never seen numbers but it wouldnt surprise me if they accounted for over half of US sales. With Brooks, Rivendell wasn't just another vendor. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where can I find Riv Baggins bags for sale?
I would love to buy a medium-capacity handlebar bag that (1) straps to the handlebars (requires no rack, hangs down close to steering axis), and (2) has a couple of pockets facing the rider that can be accessed while riding. Something like a (smaller) version of the old Baggins Hobo bag, which seems to still be in demand, at least among members of this forum. My ideal bag would be a design like Acorn's medium handlebar bag, made with Rivendell's current excellent waxed canvas. Rivendell already offers several nice handlebar bags, and I'm sure they have their hands full with other products in development. But I would certainly buy this handlebar bag if it existed. There's another thread going in which someone is looking for a bag for Bullmoose bars, I bet a Hobo-style bag would work for those too. On Jul 3, 12:58 am, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: I'll bring this up once every 20 months or so, at most. Frost River stole our designs and calls them their own. The guy there is nice enough, but got desperate, and did this. He goofed up too many bags in major ways, and was 3 months behind on delivery. We lent him money, did all the right nice things, and he didn't respond in kind, not at all. I don't want anybody to scold him on our behalf. Please don't, I don't want him to go out of business. I don't think we're selling any fewer bags because of him...but why'd he have to do that. I'd LIKE it (don't demand it, even if I could) if we-as-a-group don't promote Frost River bags here. The bags were fine, the fabric was fine---is fine---but the current fabric (Sackville and Brand V) is truly the best fabric I've ever seen for this kind of bag. It is drier to the hand---it don't pick up dirt and get black. It's air-tight---probably 25 percent tighter than any other fabric except Carradice, and is at least as tight as that. It is far more waterproof than any Duluth or FR fab. Those are nice bags, both, and I swore I wouldn't promote our products on this free-for-all conversational/informational forum. But I can't for the life of me understand the attraction to the older bags when the newer bags are so groovy. The name? Baggins Bags? OK--hard to beat that one! Over and out and calm as a placid pool now. Grant HS designer Petersen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
Hi Zack, Here's a link about officially sactioned primitive camping in Vermont: http://www.vtstateparks.com/htm/primitive.htm If you're interested crossing the Green Mountains, the Northeast Kingdom Travel and Tourist Assn. offers a network of recommended bike routes and loops all over that part of the state: http://www.travelthekingdom.com/biking.php Have a great time! Do take care if you go soon, I'm sure you're aware that in roads in some areas are in rough shape due to the recent heavy rains and flooding. Lisa On Jun 20, 8:39 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey All - I live in Burlington, VT, and would like to start doing some overnight camping trips in VT. I am researching good spots to do the overnights, and figured I would ask on here as well. Have any of you done any in VT? A lot of what I am finding for state park camping is more like car- camping, (with a bunch of campsites clustered together/showers/ firewood/firepit, etc. - which is okay, but not really what I am looking for.) I would like to camp somewhere that I am by myself, maybe have a nice view, and have a chance to get away. I thought it would be worth asking on here, as some may have experience. Any help? Appreciate it in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Women's Handlebar Recommendations?
My current drop bars have a short enough reach, but the drop of 150mm is much too deep for me. I've been considering switching to the Nitto M196 (http://www.bikemania.biz/ProductDetails.asp? ProductCode=Nitto_M196). The M196 looks like a scaled-down Noodle -- backswept like the Noodle, but with a shorter reach (80mm instead of 95mm) and shallower drop (130mm instead of 140mm). If anyone has tried the M196, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. I'm also interested the M186. At 122mm, its drops are even shallower than the M196, but I like the rounder bend and backsweep of the M196. Both bars are pretty expensive :( Lisa On Jun 6, 1:03 pm, Rocky B rivvyr...@gmail.com wrote: My wife used the the Nitto M186 (http://www.alexscycle.com/handlebars/ road-1-2/nitto-m186-sti.html) on her old RB-1 and she like them because of the short reach, shallow drops and flat ramps. We have since sold the RB-1 and now she's on a Bleriot with Alba bars which is currently in child-hauler mode. When my wife ever decides to go back to drop bars on her Bleriot, I may have her try the Nitto M106-NAS (http://www.alexscycle.com/ handlebars/road-1-2/nitto-neat-m106-nas.html). It looks to have the same short reach, shallow drops, and flat ramps of the m186 but has a smoother, rounder bend to it (no ergo-bends) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant's April 10 post
My daughter's Breezer U-frame has a handle like that built in. http://flic.kr/p/5Y7WmP I wonder if the designer intended it as a handle, or just as a brace to strengthen the frame? Anyway, it works as a handle and the bike balances nicely when held there. Lisa On Apr 10, 11:23 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: It IS a handle. A customer wrote-sent a link to a bike with a built-in lever-action lifter handleand it seemed neat but kind of hatchet vs fly. When I go up stairs with a bike, I grab the downtube just ahead of the crank, and tilt---works fine, one of many ways that do. But the handle thing seemed neat, so I thought I'd try to make one, and came up with this. It's quick and dirty, but works great. G On Apr 10, 11:38 am, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: it's a handle. for to carry with. On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Forrest ftme...@me.com wrote: I'm with you, Aaron -- could use more info . . . -- Forrest On Apr 10, 1:15 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I'm missing something (or just need more coffee this morning), but I can't figure out the purpose of the orange bar tape on his Hilsen. Is it to increase bottom bracket stiffness? Is it a premonition of more frame triangulation to come, à la the Diagonapiller? A belated April Fool's joke? I'm stumped. Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
Hi Ray, Actually, I ended up removing the frame lock -- it wasn't a great fit and I didn't want to rub the paint off the frame. I got a mini U-lock (I live in Boston) and installed Pitlock skewers -- now I can lock up my bike with relative confidence. I also changed the handlebar tape, switched to a sturdier mirror, and a few other things. I don't have a current photo of the bike, but here's a more recent pic from a family credit-card tour last August: http://tinyurl.com/3av4ye3 -- Lisa On Apr 5, 9:31 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Well, that's set up for some heavy duty. First time I have seen a frame lock on a Riv. Interesting. From: Lisa ukulele.l...@mac.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2011 10:36 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas OK, I'll come out and join the delurkers. Here (http://tinyurl.com/ 3wnmv8b) is a picture of my 47 cm Atlantis parked in my office. Peter White built it up for me last summer. It was his last in-stock Atlantis frame. I ride it pretty much every day, in all weather, for commuting, touring, and just getting around. I love it, it's great fun to ride and it fits me better than any other bike I've ever ridden. On Apr 5, 10:57 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell chicas
OK, I'll come out and join the delurkers. Here (http://tinyurl.com/ 3wnmv8b) is a picture of my 47 cm Atlantis parked in my office. Peter White built it up for me last summer. It was his last in-stock Atlantis frame. I ride it pretty much every day, in all weather, for commuting, touring, and just getting around. I love it, it's great fun to ride and it fits me better than any other bike I've ever ridden. On Apr 5, 10:57 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: It would be great if more women felt more welcome to delurk. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Trangia experiments
Is yellow HEET still available? or is there some other common automotive additive that's really just methanol / ethanol? Since I bought a Trangia stove this spring, I've been keeping an eye out for HEET in roadside gas stations, truck stops, etc. They all have ISO-HEET (red) but not the yellow methanol HEET. Perhaps yellow HEET is no longer of interest to drivers since gasoline has ethanol added to it these days? Lisa On Aug 12, 12:19 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I recently bought a Trangia stove with the pot and frying pan set. Rivendell sells this fine product and recommends it for campouts. Based on my recent experimentation, I concur. Here's a report on my experiments: Water for a cup of tea boils quickly. I didn't time it, but something like four or five minutes, perfectly fine for a camping breakfast or for an afternoon warmup on a long cold ride. And unlike my MSR white gas stove which roars like a freight train, the Trangia is completely silent. But what about actual food? I tried pancakes, made with Krusteaz buttermilk pancake mix, on a sub-24. I brought along some Krusteaz in a ziplock. At the campsite, I mixed it with enough water to make a pourable batter, just stirring so that most but not all the lumps were gone (why yes, I do bring along a wire whisk when camping, why do you ask?). I used the Trangia without the simmer ring; pancakes cook fairly quickly. I made two or three little pancakes in the frying pan at a time, turning them over when the bubbles popped. Results: Delicious. I spread them with Nutella. Emboldened, I moved on to a biscuit. For this, I used a homemade mix of 1 cup flour, 1/4 cup powdered milk, 1 teaspoon baking powder, 1/4 teaspoon salt,1 tablespoon Crisco. I mixed the dry ingredients together, then cut the Crisco in using two knives. (If I made a bigger batch, I'd mix in the Crisco in the food processor with six or eight quick pulses.) I took about 1/3 cup of the mix, and mixed in just enough water to make a stiff dough. I formed it into a biscuit-shaped round about half an inch thick, and cooked it in a lightly greased frying pan, covered with a makeshift aluminum-foil lid. I had to experiment with the simmer ring setting. The first time, I had it set in the completely open position, but that resulted in burned outsides and gummy insides. The simmer ring about half covered worked better. I cooked it about eight minutes on the first side, turned it over, and cooked it around five minutes on the second side. Result: delicious. I was home this time, so I put on butter and honey, but a biscuit like this would be good with dinner too. The biscuit mix would work well for pancakes too-- just add an egg if you have one, plus enough water to make a pourable batter and maybe a bit of sugar if you happen to have any. Then cook and enjoy. The small cookset, which is what I have, is really only adequate for one. I was able to boil spaghetti for one (about 1/6 lb) successfully, but when I tried spaghetti for two there wasn't enough room in the pot for the noodles plus the water to cook them. For two people, I recommend the bigger cookset. Cooking for a group of four or more, I recommend a gas stove. Here's the recommendation: If you do sub24s, buy a Trangia. They're simple, they're light, the whole cookset packs up in one neat small package*, they burn HEET** and denatured alcohol***, both readily available. * The Trangia comes with a screwtop so that if there is still fuel in the stove when you're finished cooking, you can snuff it out, let it cool down, then screw on the lid. However, unfortunately, you can't transport the stove (say, in your panniers) with alcohol in it, because it will leak, even with the screw top. I emailed Trangia to ask, and that's what they told me. So use up all your fuel in the morning. ** HEET in the yellow container. The red container HEET is the wrong stuff. *** but do not buy Sunnyside brand denatured alcohol, the house brand of Tru Value hardware stores. It smokes. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant discounts the value of top tube length
I think the point is, that reach isn't the same as top tube length. Reach, which for me is a key component of fit, does depend on top tube length, but also on seat tube angle, handlebar height, etc. I have an old Peugeot and a new Atlantis that have exactly the same effective top tube length. But the seat angle on the Peugeot is 76 degrees (so I have to shove my saddle all the way back), and on the Atlantis it's 72.5 degrees (and my saddle is centered on the seat tube). In the end, my reach is quite a bit longer on the Peugeot. On Aug 9, 5:14 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: In the most recent step on the frame-drawing tutorial, Grant stated more directly than I can recall his feeling about top tube length: It's not the key, or even a key dimension. It matters, but not nearly as much as other things, or as much as people think it does. Bar height affects how far you have to reach to the bar more than top tube length does. Seat tube angle affects reach, too. But at some point yep, you gotta pick a top tube length. On every bicycle forum on the planet, including this one, there will be numerous posters who emphatically state that top tube length is the single most important dimension on a bike, and that frame size itself should be stated as a top tube length dimension rather than a seat tube length dimension. I know I used to be convinced of that thinking and am only beginning to accept the possibility of an alternative. The fact is, everybody wants to know what the top tube length is, so Grant lists it. If handlebar height is way more important, then I wonder why Grant/Riv don't propose a way to quantify that characteristic on a frame or a bike. I can't think of an easy way to do it, either. Is it just the altitude of the headset locknut with a particular normal tire? Is it the x,y coordinates of the headset locknut relative to (0,0) placed at the center of the BB? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Here are some geometry comparisons of small touring bikes (Riv Atlantis, Surly LHT, Soma Saga).ETT = Effective Top Tube, SO = standover in mm, STA = seat tube angle. Make-and-size ETT SO STA Atlantis-47cm 520 712 72.5 LHT-46cm515 724 74.5 LHT-42cm505 703 75 Saga-47cm 517 714 74.5 Saga-44cm 502 701 75 In this chart, note the difference in the seat tube angle (STA) on the Atlantis. To get the same saddle position relative to the pedals, you'd have to push the saddle back on the Surly and Soma bikes. Every degree of STA is worth a little over 10 mm of saddle position in a bike of this size (use your high school trig -- exact calculation depends on seat height). The correction is about 20 mm for a 74.5 degree STA and 25 mm for a 75 degree STA. So the equivalent ETT for the 46 cm LHT would be about 535 mm, and for the 42 cm LHT it would be 530. For the Soma Saga 47 cm the equivalent ETT would be 537, and for the 44 cm Saga it would be 527. Bottom line: the Atlantis' stated ETT measurement is the longest of the bunch, but because of the shallower seat tube angle, it has the shortest reach. Handlebar height and head tube angle also affect reach. This issue is addressed in more generality and detail here: http://www.rivbike.com/article/bicycle_making/the_top_tube_ruse Lisa PS: If the OP's friend's PBH is 670 mm, she won't be able to stand over any of these bikes. She may need a mixte, or a bike with 24 wheels. On Jul 27, 1:35 am, Ian Dickson iandicks...@gmail.com wrote: The bike is tiny, but with the small wheels and level top tube it looks normal and nicely proportioned. A lot of small frames look like they've been squashed. I haven't looked at the geometry, but I would guess that the 46cm LHT is similar to a 47cm Atlantis, which would be nicer if your friend is willing to spend the money. My wife is very happy with the Surly, though. They are nice bikes. Ian On Jul 26, 8:43 pm, Ken Mattina ken.matt...@gmail.com wrote: The soma buena vista comes in a 42cm size. The salsa vaya comes in a 50cm although according to the geometry chart, the seat tube measures 45cm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Reach is an issue for many small riders. Small bikes tend to have long effective top tubes in proportion to their other dimensions. They also tend to have steep seat tube angles -- so when the seat is pushed back to a good riding position, the reach is further increased. I'm a short rider (5' 2.5, PBH of 75 cm) and the happy owner of a new 47 cm Atlantis. Rivendell is nearly unique in making their smallest frames with the same seat tube angles as their larger ones. My Atlantis is the first bike I've had in my adult life that really fits me -- even with drop bars. It has a 52 cm ETT and a 72.5 degree seat tube angle. However, it sounds like I'm taller than your friend. She may be able to make a somewhat-too-long bike fit if she puts North Road style bars on it. If she finds 54 cm Albatross bars too wide, I'd suggest the 50 cm Nitto North Road or 49 cm Soma Sparrow bars. Beware of old mixtes. My old touring/commuting bike, a 1987 Peugeot mixte, has a 76 degree seat tube angle. After riding my new Atlantis for a week, I took the Peugeot for a spin around the block. I couldn't believe I had been riding it for all those years, I was sitting so far forward of the pedals, even with the seat pushed as far back as it would go. Rivendell doesn't have the geometry of the Betty Foy posted on their web site, but the 47 cm Betty probably has a reasonable seat tube angle like their other small bikes. Hopefully the ETT isn't too long. Sorry for the long reply -- I hope your friend finds a good bike! On Jul 26, 10:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? If so, please send me detailed info. Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: This retro thing has gone too far
My Belt Beacon still works ... On Jul 25, 9:58 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I still see guys using Bell Bikers here in Davis. I'm sometimes tempted to let them know that 20-or 30-year-old styrofoam won't do a thing to protect their brains if they crashed. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Jul 25, 2010, at 6:41 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: On the way to work this morning I passed a guy, on a normally busy road, riding with a Skid Lid! Yikes! What dark basement did he pull that out of and why wasn't it simply trashed decades ago? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Kickstand Mounting Advice
Hi Cyclotourist, My household has a Burley Nomad cargo trailer that my husband uses each week to pick up our CSA share. This spring, I converted our Nomad from the old-style clamp-on hitch to the standard forged hitch, so I could put a rear-mount kickstand on my husband's new bike (a Surly Cross-Check). We got the replacement hitch at www.biketrailershop.com. If you order one, you'll need to know whether your Burley has round or square tubing in the tow arm. You can get extra receivers if you use the trailer with more than one bike. The kickstand doesn't interfere with the trailer. We did have to put a slightly longer axle on his rear wheel to accommodate the trailer hitch receiver. Regards, Lisa On Jul 24, 7:48 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I've looked at those, but my kid-trailer hauling duties preclude a rear stand. The Burley trailer mounts right onto the tube junction where the stand attaches. But thanks for the suggestion! :-) On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: David, I was hoping my Atlantis would have a kickstand plate - but mine was an older one (apparently 64s are the most popular size). A recent thread seemed to indicate that the rear mounted stands were the most stable especially for a loaded bike. I think I'll try the rear mounted kickstand. Angus On Jul 24, 3:55 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I wish I had a plate on my AR. Clamping it onto the chainstays isn't such a good thing. On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: Forgive me if this is a silly question. I am finally getting around to mounting my Pletscher KS on my Riv custom which has a handy plate for just this purpose. Since I will not be using the top mounting plate that came with the 'stand, I am wondering if I need to use a nut, washer, whatever to do the job right. Lastly, to those Bunchers who have done this already, did you use the supplied bolt as-is, hacksaw it down, buy a shorter one? There will be a lot of unused bolt hanging below the plate. Not sure it will make any difference. Just curious what other folks have done. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%252Bunsub scr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Query on TA Cyclo Tourist cranks and front derailier
I put a TA Cyclotouriste crankset (half-step plus granny, 46-42-26) on my '87 Peugeot a couple of years ago, replacing the original Nervar 52-42 double. I just kept the original front derailleur and it shifts quite well. I believe I once read somewhere that these old TA triple cranks generally do better with a double front derailleur. Anyway it works for me. On Jul 7, 12:00 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: I'm building up a 70's era Bob Jackson touring frame and I'm going to use TA Cyclo Tourist cranks. I have no experience with these things. The drop off from the middle ring to the granny is enormous. Is there some FD that handles this kind of move better than others? Any advice (other than to stick with Italian stuff) will be appreciated. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cool, transportation-oriented bike shops in Boston?
Don't overlook Bikes Not Bombs in Jamaica Plain. Their bike shop is a great place for reconditioned vintage bikes, new Surlys, and Riv-style accessories. You may be interested in volunteering for their humanitarian projects as well. -- Lisa On May 31, 6:09 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, how could I forget Harris Cyclery? I may skip Indy Fab, as I am currently selling my Planet X and don't need another IF. :) Also stopping at ANT bicycles on the way into town. Broadway Bicycle School sounds great. Thanks for the tips. Gernot On May 30, 8:52 pm, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: Fourth for Harris Cyclery. And you can get there from Boston South Station via commuter rail (Harris is just a few blocks from the W. Newton station;http://www.mbta.com/schedules_and_maps/rail). On May 30, 7:41 am, Bill Spencer wjbon...@comcast.net wrote: There is always Independent Fabrication in Somerville. Not really a bike shop per se but cool none the less. On May 29, 10:29 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Heading there in a couple of days. Know about ANT, but they are quite far out of town now (Holliston). Are there any cool shops in Boston/ Cambridge/Somerville worth checking out? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Doug and Ray, I do like the two-rack solution for a fork with eyelets. But since I don't have them, I'm going to try the Nitto Big Front rack. I'm not ready to think about repainting the fork on a bike I haven't even ridden yet! Lisa On May 12, 12:58 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Lisa: One solution to the lack of mid fork eyelets on the Atlantis is to simply add them as needed. I've added standard rack hourglass eyelets to the front of the fork legs for the Nitto small rack, and another pair on the rear of the legs for the low rider rack I add for loaded tours. My Atlantis is 58 cm so everything has to come off to pack'n'ship for a remote start tour. I got sick of the Rubik's cube problem of installing my bolt together front rack with U-clamps. One caution is to locate the eyelets for maximum versatility in case you may change racks. See the TouringStore.com website for detailed info but all racks are not alike. This is the voice of experience as I'm about to add another set of eyelets for my new rack. BTW, the paint job is history when you do this but Testors makes an almost perfect match for the Atlantis color. It fools most everyone except my fussy Riv buds. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Ray -- yes, the Nitto Big Front Rack is rigid, and therefore OK with clamps. But the Nova is not rigid, according to Tubus' web site: http://www.tubus.com/en/lowrider/nova In the diagram on the right, the Nova pannier support arm is marked adjustable with arcs to show where it pivots. I do believe there are some rigid designs of lowriders out there -- Bruce Gordon's, for instance. Lisa On May 11, 7:03 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Lisa --- that isn't a concern because the rack is rigid and can't collapse onto itself. The only thong the p- clamp does is prevent the rack from falling forward or rearward. If the bottom of the rack is attached to eyelets, then the rack cannot slide down any further since it is a rigid structure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Hi -- this is my first post to this group. I am in the process of purchasing an Atlantis for touring and I've been watching this thread with interest, because my Atlantis frame doesn't have mid-fork rack eyelets. I've going to use the Nitto Big Front Rack instead of the Tubus Nova because of concerns about using clamps on the Nova. The Tubus lowrider racks all have a pivot where the horizontal bar that holds your panniers attaches to the arc that goes over the front of the wheel. So it seems to me that, if the other end of the pannier bar is only clamped to the fork, the clamp may tend to slide down toward the axle. I'm not the only one worried about this, see for instance this image: http://images.erck.org/Site/Gear_AtlantisRack307X230.jpg Lisa On May 11, 5:33 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I found this photo...http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/3868497649/in/set-721576224... Seems like the perfect solution! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lovely Bicycle Blog
Paul wrote: While doing a search on the Riv Sam Hillbourne bike I stumbled across this blog as the writer of the blog had recently become the owner of a Sam Hillbourne frame. http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/ Perhaps it has been mentioned on list before. I found it very interesting and thought I would pass it on. ...At any rate I find the the perspective from a lady and also someone fairly new to cycling adds a lot to the mix. It seems to me the feminine perspective can help balance the plentiful high testosterone fueled viewpoints of the guys. Plus she is a talented photographer and artist and has some great pics of bikes on her site. Paul C Paul, I too like her blog and find it creative and refreshing. Thank you for posting it. I am sending it on to a few of my cycling women friends. Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question about women's riding clothes (not for me)
Steve Palincsar wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-03 at 19:26 -0800, beth h wrote: Title Nine has some very nice stuff, but is generally a massive bummer if you're a woman of size. And according to their sizing charts, I apparently qualify as a woman of size. Then they must cater primarily to stick insects. You are many things, but a woman of size ain't one of them, imho. This is a common problem. People who look at me would mostly think I'm a normal sized woman, I'm not 'big' by anyone's standard, and I'm 5'5. But when buying cycling or athletic clothes I usually have to get XL for the bottoms (and L for most tops). Imagine, I actually have hips ...and a butt! LOL! They come in handy for working one's way through a crowd. Lynne- I don't look ethereal enough for the Title Nine catalog either. And I'd probably wouldn't be fashionably 'tweedy/rumply' enough for any Riv catalog. ;) Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Question about women's riding clothes (not for me)
I buy her all of her cycling gear. The last thing I bought her was a Terry cycling skort thing. It works well and she likes it but I want to get something much less involved. No built in liner, etc. She also doesn't like lycra or how it looks. Anyway, it seems like all the Riv gear is oriented towards men. Anybody know of Musa type stuff that is made for women? I'll get her going on some wool tops from Riv, but the bottoms are not as flattering. Anyone's wives or girlfriends have any recommendations? She's not a fashion person at all, but the more I can get her stuff that works the more she'll ride. Thanks. Kip Otteson Kip, I too recommend Ibex.com I also recommend she get over to TeamEstrogen.com for the largest selection of woemn's biking and other sports wear found anywhere- they also have the world's best customer service and all the women there can answer her fit/function questions very well. The only thing I wonder about is why are you choosing clothes for her? ?? Let her ask some recommendations on the phone from the VERY experienced and helpful women over at both Ibex and Team Estrogen and let her decide what she'd like to try. Some women who 'don't like lycra' seem to like knickers ok. I like the Ibex Shak merino tops. Their wool heavy tights are nice too, as are their El Fitto wool biking knickers. I like most of the SheBeest tights, knickers, and shorts from TE, also their Louis Garneau brands of bottoms. Both sites have choices for loose pants that move well for biking and don't look like 'tights'. Does she only want to wear skirts/skorts for biking? TE has LOTS of those to choose from. Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A bicycle for my fifty something year old mother.
Austin, to me it sounds like your mother needs two bikes. One set up with rack/panniers for grocery shopping. and one that's maybe less heavy with lots of hill climbing gears that she can go 30-50 miles on. She obviously doesn't need a heavy mtn bike for 40 mile paved road rides, and she will not want to take the rack/panniers on and off every time she goes to the store for groceries. Even a nice hybrid might be pretty uncomfortable on 30-40 mile rides...especially the straight bars. She does *not* sound like some old lady who needs a beach cruiser to tootle round her cul-de-sac in the suburbs. She sounds like she wants to put some miles on. (I'm 55 by the way) I'd recommend a lighter weight steel touring bike with maybe 25width kevlar tires and mountain range gearing. that'll do any kind of ride for her. Maybe she could just dedicate her current bike for groceries then, and have a nice rack and grocery bag panniers on it. Lisa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Betty Foy Featured in YouTube Video
Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles wrote: And while the content of the video is targeted to the novice rider (and not really applicable to our group)... I was a novice rider when I got my Rambouillet and joined this list. My Ramb was the first bike I had since I was 13 years old...which was 42 years ago. :) Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: betty foy questions
Seth Vidal wrote: 2. if you get it repainted from riv is there anyway to get one of the generic rbw headbadges instead of the betty foy headbadge? What, you got something against space aliens? ;) Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dearth of female riders in SoCal was: The myth of the all-rounder.
I own two bikes, both are steel. My first was a 54cm Rambouillet, which despite all our tweaks still leaves me feeling unbalanced and with some elbow pain. I set it up with rack and panniers to use as an errand bike now. After 2 years I got a custom made TIG-welded Luna steel bike, which I feel supremely comfortable on. Went with TIG rather than lugs to allow the builder to be unconstrained by the lug anglescomfort rather than looks was my highest priority. I guess the Riv geometry is not exactly women-specific (at least when it comes to me), since I know of at least one man my height (5'5) who rides the same size Ramb as mine and who is very comfortable on it. There are a LOT of women riders out there, and many of them are into steel bikes, lugged included. But it seems to me (from years of reading the largest online biking forum for women) that many of these women do seem to have a hard time finding stock bikes (steel or otherwise) that fit them well- over and over they run into the too-long reach issue. For them, the choices come down to either a custom bike or a stock women-specific geometry bike, of which there are now quite a few on the market (and I'm not talking about a man's bike simply shrunken down and painted pink here). I'm lucky I was able to afford to get a custom Luna made. Interestingly, my Luna is exactly the same length as my Ramb (the tires touch the ground in the exact same two spots), but the fit is vastly different. That said, I know there *are* women riding around in total comfort on their Rivs...maybe they don't all live in California? :) Lisa David Estes wrote: Speaking of women riders, what's the deal with the SoCal Rivendell Appreciation Society Sausage-fest? I see LOTS of women riding bikes everywhere, but lugged steel on dirt roads does not seem to attract them. One woman for 1/3 of one ride does not satisfy Title IX. DE On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com mailto:cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Uhmmm, Lesli, now is the time to chime in... On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu mailto:dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: I wonder what we'd find if this question were answered by women. None have responded thusfar to this thread. ARE there any female members of this group?? cut As I consider my female bicycling buddies, students and acquaintences, I realize that none of them have more than two bikes and that most have just one. Do women think the all-rounder is a myth? I have to wonder whether they even care. DC -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Dearth of female riders in SoCal was: The myth of the all-rounder.
Ryan Watson wrote: A while back on one of these lists someone asked about how to get more chicks into cycling? The best response was stop calling them chicks! My own take on some guy asking about how to get more chicks into cycling? would be: to stop thinking that it takes men to get women into cycling. ;) Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
I have both a Rambouillet and a custom Luna, both beautiful bikes, both pictured here: http://harmonias.com/bikes/ Though my husband's two Rivendells fit him perfectly, my Ramb is not a perfect fit for me, thus i got a custom Luna from Margo Conover, which fits me like a glove and is supremely comfortable for me, and I set up my Ramb as my errand bike with rack etc. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: women's bikes
I doubt a SweetPea bike would be any cheaper than a Luna, plus the waiting list could well be longer. Lovin' my Luna.mm Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: QB in NYT
John Geiger wrote: Saw this this morning. NIce color picture. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/23/business/smallbusiness/23venture.html?_r=1ref=business Pretty soon the NYT will have to start making bike bags too. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Brooks Upgrade Service
Todd Olsen wrote: has anyone had any experience with the Brooks Upgrade Service offered by Selle An Atomica? Thanks, Todd Olsen FWIWA woman on the women's biking forum had a cut-out put in her Brooks by Selle-A-A, and the frame of the Brooks saddle BROKE shortly afterwards. Here's a picture: *http://tinyurl.com/mvk23f You can see the crack right below where the rail connects to the frame. Lisa * --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] FS: Shimano9speedbar-end shifters+brakelevers+NittoStem
I'm selling the three items described below. Shipping is included as specified. PAYPAL PAYMENT ONLY please. NO RETURNS. Parcel Post will be used to ship unless you want to pay extra for faster shipping. If you buy all 3 items together I will take off $10 from total price. If I get an offer to buy all three together before tomorrow I will give preference to that buyer first. Thanks! Lisa FS: Shimano R400 brake lever set, used. This set has typical light wear and dings from 2 years' use, but they work just fine. It is the Shimano R400 (Tiagra/Sora level) brake lever set- silver levers with black rubber hoods. Here is a picture of the item (new): http://www.bikeparts.com/search_resu...p?ID=BPC317811 I'm selling the set for $30 which includes standard shipping I will pay to anywhere in the continental U.S. No returns, no overseas/international. Paypal payment only. Thanks! __ FS: Shimano Dura-Ace/9speed Bar-end shifters, used. This set has typical light wear and dings from 2 years' use, but they work just fine. Shimano Dura-Ace level SL-BS77 Bar-end shifter set. NOTE: 9 Speed. Does NOT include any barrel adjusters. Here is a picture of the item (new): http://www.bikeparts.com/search_resu...p?ID=BPC308309 I'm selling the set for $60 which includes standard shipping I will pay to anywhere in the continental U.S. No returns, no overseas/international. Paypal payment only. Thanks! FS: Nitto Technomic(tall) Stem, 50mm, used Here is a picture and description of the item, new: http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=418 These are beautiful, Japanese-made forged aluminum stems with an extra tall column (225 mm overall.) Not as flexible as you were when you bought your bike? Want a more upright position without sacrificing the versatility of your drop bars? This is the ticket! These allow you to raise your handlebars about 2 1/2 higher than traditional stems. My used stem is the 26mm clamp, which fits most modern road bikes. I used it only for about 6 months- it has very slight wear that is typical for that amount of usage. Not only can it be adjusted taller than usual, but this is a short reach stem of 50mm that brings your handlebars closer to you in addition to raising them higher. The reach proved to be just a bit too short for me, so I wound up buying a 70mm instead. It's a very handsome and beautifully made stem, especially appropriate for 'retro look' bikes. My 50mm stem is shorter reach than the one pictured, but you get the idea. I'm selling the stem for $45 which includes standard shipping that I will pay to anywhere in the continental U.S. No returns, no overseas/international. Paypal payment only. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: seat bag support
Roger and Carolyn SKALLERUD wrote: I need a seatbag support to level my Carradice Nelson and Baggins Little Joe on a Bleriot and Riv. When they are attached to the seat and seatpost stuff keeps falling out of the pockets on the Carradice, I need to level it up, what works best? Roger Skallerud South Dakota I have a Nelson bag and a Little Joe too. Personally, I really like the Bagman to keep the bags up off my tires (I have 54cm frames so not lots of room there). http://www.wallbike.com/racks/bagman.html When Wallingford is out of stock, I get the Bagman Sport model directly from Carradice in England, it arrives cheap and fast. Not sure if they are in stock now or not. I see them come up on Ebay sometimes too. Here's the Bagman holding up my Little Joe bag on my Rivendell: http://harmonias.com/bikes/L_Ramb_1.jpg And on my Luna bike: http://harmonias.com/bikes/Luna_1.jpg Works great holding up the Nelson as well- just don't fill it completely with bricks. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glove Recommendations?
Gloves are basically to protect your palms and hand nerves from damage if you fall and wind up skidding on the asphalt. I sometimes wonder why people want/need extra padding and cushioning in their gloves. If you have too much weight on your hands while riding I would not think the solution is to add more padding or gelsimilar to how extra padded cushy saddles do not do a particularly good job of solving saddle pain either. If you have enough weight on your hands to cause pain or numbness, you might want to look at why that is and attempt to adjust your weight distribution in some way. Just a thought. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you
beth h wrote: I was eleven when I completed the badge, and well on my way to loving bicycles forever. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/3352745506/ Beth I love your saddlebag and badges and stickers. :) Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: leather saddle rain cover
chrom...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I've used the Saran bowl covers topped with the Caradice saddle cover. Works very well keeping everything dry. But now I can no longer find the Saran bowl covers. Sources? Jan Google bowl covers or saran bowl covers or plastic bowl covers and you'll find dozens of sources. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: leather saddle rain cover
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: I know, nothing works as well as a plastic bag and duct tape -- just looking for something slightly more elegant. Thx. The Brooks cover is not so rain proof, as others have noted. I sprayed mine thoroughly with a water repellent spray, but have yet to test it out in rain after spraying it. As to elegance- some might argue that something that functions perfectly is innately elegant. ;) I always keep one of those infernal plastic grocery bags in my Little Joe saddle bag. Not only does it make a great rain cover (and the two handle loops can tie below the saddle to cinch it in place) ...but it also comes in handy for just about any odd thing you might have to pick up or carry home. A surprise bonus of morels or a puffball perhaps? I once found a baby painted turtle in the middle of the highway with no water in sight, so I put him in the bag and later released him into a pond with others of his kind. I sure didn't want turtle pee all over the inside of my Little Joe! (hmmm...where else but a bike list would you hear a sentence like that? ...and has anyone ever even uttered that sentence before in the history of mankind?) Lisa -- Lisa Appalachian Dulcimer noter drone blog: http://dulcimer-noter-drone.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
Stephen wrote: Wow, thanks for all the feedback. No one thinks its at all flat or drab? Without depth or interest? I know its just a color, not a personality... It's what I'd call rich, no way flat or drab. Without interest?!?- um, it's about the most interesting color on a bike that I've seen sincewell, since I chose my butternut/eggnog color on my custom Luna a year ago. I can envision it with a dark brown Brooks and brown leather bar tape. It's an amazing color, really. You'll be the envy of everyone! :) Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wool Cycling Hat
erik jensen wrote: She'll ask for your circumference as well as the distance from the top of each ear over the top of the head. In case you're from France. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Online Rivendell-ish Resources
Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles wrote: Hey All, I would like a little help putting together a little online guide. This guide will highlight some of the best Internet resources available to cyclists interested in Rivendells, Waterfords, classic lugged steel bikes, etc. It is aimed more at the recreational (like randoneurs and touring) rather than competitive cyclist. I enjoy the blog Car Free Days: http://carfreedays.com/ It's not about lugged steel bikes, but it *is* about living a biking lifestyle every day, choosing bikes over cars on a practical working basis, using them as a family means of transportation, healthy and green choice, etc. Lots of good practical biking tips for hauling stuff on your bike, biking with your kids or hauling your kids, adapting bikes for certain uses, etc. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Online Rivendell-ish Resources
Bruce wrote: Am I alone on RBW in also reading BikeSnobNYC? I regularly 'rub' BSNY. ;) Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Cool pic of Jimmy and Rosalynn's bikes
Rick wrote: Thankfully, these were not the bicycles stolen in January. http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2009/01/12/jimmy_carter_bicycle.html So maybe the Carters are back to riding their 'rolling junk' now? ;D Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Not a Riv, but as close as I can get!
Looks beautiful! It's great to see an old well made bike brought back for a whole second life. Nice job. A closeup photo of the headtube with lugs would be nice- does it have any logo or headbadge there? I agree with David Estes about rotating the bars up to make the ramps levelbut then you'd probably have to slide the hoods down a little and that would waste your whole careful bar wrapping and shellacking job. :( I'm curious about what paint you used as well, but without a closeup photo it's hard to see paint details anyway. ;) Lisa Benji wrote: Hello all, I've worked pretty hard, with very little money, to take an old frame and make it look new. I'm curious to see what you all think, let me know. http://www.flickr.com/photos/benjib/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Derailleurs in the Tour
Patrick, I find a little chapstick helps cut down on wind drag. ;) Lisa PATRICK MOORE wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net mailto:dougpn...@cox.net wrote: You ever notice how Patrick always includes the wind direction, velocity gear on his fixed gear ride reports? What a sensitive guy. It's the only way I can excuse my average speed. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Pics of Atlantis built up as pure road bike?
Wow, I can really relate to THAT, Anne! :D Lisa Anne Paulson wrote: Easier climbing? Lately when I do club rides on nice days, I ride my Klein with 28mm tires. There's a huge difference between that and the 32mm tires (plus a generator hub) on my Atlantis, and I climb a lot faster on the Klein. What difference does climbing a hill eight minutes faster make? For me, not that much, but for the friend waiting for me at the top, quite a lot. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glorius and drop bars
Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Yes, my limited experience, with maybe 3 or 4 Riv Mixtes, is that many women find them too stretched out even with A-bars and anything but the stubbiest stem. Wow, I didn't know that. Sadly ironic, considering that many people think of mixtes as 'women's' bikes. I found steering on my Ramb to be too jittery with a really short stem. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Glorius and drop bars
Yes, these things can be difficult balancing acts. I could never get my weight far back enough to feel balanced, even with the saddle shoved all the way back, extra short reach handlebar, and 5mm stem. =8-o The 5 stem proved to be just too short and resulted in wobble for me (especially scary on steep hills in narrow lanes with traffic) despite several months of trying to get used to it. We tweaked for 2 years and got the Ramb about as good as it could get to fit me. In the end, I had a custom TIG-welded steel bike made to my measurements and proportions, upon which I feel marvelously weight balanced, and I fixed my Ramb up as my trusty errand/grocery bike and use it for short utility ridesa working bike. I like having two bikes for different uses now! :D Lisa Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: To be clear, it may not be 100% the fault of the design. One common but misguided fix for a stretched out position is to move the saddle forward. This shifts weight onto the hands, and actually makes the problem worse, especially with A-bars, which don't have a great position for supporting weight. Still, I think these bikes would be improved if they had a normal length effective top-tube. It would be easy enough to get a longer stem, when necessary, but I don't think it would be necessary all that often. Obviously, compared to Grant, I am an egg, so there is probably something I'm missing. I don't know much about jittery handling with a shorter stem. Probably true in your case, but I wouldn't extend it as a general rule. Lots of people can't get comfortable without a short stem. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Was Sackville bags now Lil Loafer volume
PATRICK MOORE wrote: When I regularly commuted to an office job, I included a brake cable and a few patches and a little tiny glass bottle of rubber glue. Not sure why, since my commute was no more than 20 miles even if I took the detour; usually 15 one way (and half that on bus on return.) Oh, and sometimes a power bar or two. Or something to eat. Bandaids? Chapstick? TP? Is this for a century? Patrick no sunblock, no helmet, no gloves, no padded shorts, no plastic jerseys, no sunglasses except in allergy season, no multiple gears either Moore Power Bars are for dweebs and yuppies.;) I'm assuming from your sig line that you bring that brake cable to floss with after lunch. ;D Lisa don't get between me and my chapstick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Collective nouns for Riv's bikes
I vote for a murder of Rivendells. As in crows. OR A pod of Rivendells. As in whales. Might be particularly appropriate for a group of Atlantises. (Atlantii?) When my husband and I are riding our Rivs together, we call it a brace of rivendells...but that only applies to a pair. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: shifter opinions
Jim Bronson wrote: What I have found that I do prefer is (gasp) anatomic bars. Since I am very tall, I ride in the drops a lot when it's windy and that is a sure reciepe on the Nitto Noodles for numb hands. I don't have nearly as many problems with my Ritchey anatomic bars. But alas they do not come in bright silver. Same here. My hands used to get cramps riding in the drops on Noodle bars- the curve was uncomfortable for me. My small hands just love my ergonomic Salsa Poco bars and my 9 speed short-reach brifters, so I put that setup on both my bikes. Black bars: tape as close to the stem as possible before the cable want to emerge, and then allow the cable to go off where it wants to and tape/twine an additional inch further in after that, sans cable, towards the stem as close as you want. When you run out of tape switch to twine. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: And yet another question...
John Ferguson wrote: I'm starting to realize that I'm asking more questions than anyone else; I hope I'm not irritating anyone. I hereby promise to contribute something useful when I actually know what I'm talking about. John Oh, don't do that John. A forum isn't much fun at all when everyone knows everything. ;) Beware, do not become a Nigel Smythe tweed valve cap cover collector! Remember the definition of an expert: An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything a//bout nothing. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivs Mac's
To extend the questions... how many ride Rivendells and also play music of some sort (not necessarily at the same time)? We have 3 rivs. I play banjo and mountain dulcimer, he plays fiddle. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bombadil Delivered!
Rick wrote: That flat black is a perfect fit for the bombadil's manly profile, great choice. It looks like a semi-gloss/satin finish to me in appearance, not flat. Looks nice though. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne geometry is up at RBW site!
All you need do to remedy (2) above is to not chop the steerer down all the way, leaving a little space both above and below the stem for spacers. Or, if you're really picky, use an NVO stem system: http://www.nvocomponents.com/ -Jim G Their motion graphic gives a whole new slant on 'bike porn'.=8-o Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shifter location
George Schick wrote: Seems like DT shifters also train you to shift only when you really need to - I've ridden along with people who have brifter-equipped bikes and all I ever heard was shifting going on for the slightest little rise or drop in elevation. I had bar end shifters on my Rambouillet for 2 years while it was my only bike. I noticed that over the course of two years I slowly began to shift less often for slight elevation variations. Part of this is because I got a little stronger. I think that many of these riders who shift obsessively are likely to be less experienced riders or just weekend short-ride type riders who have not put in a lot of mileage. I suspect they will shift less frequently as they ride more. Keep in mind that most novice riders these days are buying bikes that typically have brifters. That includes novice riders full-out clad in racing kits as well. ;) I think if these novices were starting on bar end or DT shifters they'd still be shifting more frequently than necessary. I just finished changing my Ramb's bar-ends to brifters (for several reasons) and I don't think I am shifting much more often than I did on my bar ends. I have the same gearing setup as before, and I tend to have my favorite gears already 'assigned' in my head for certain segments and hills of my common routes. I expect as I continue to get stronger I will continue to shift less often. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
