[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
second on the fat bike (or is it third?, either way). Seven and Moots bikes look pretty nice. On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 1:58:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I have a Salsa Vaya and do like it a lot. But I am pretty tempted by the new 2015 GT Grade! There are many versions (carbon/aluminum and Ultegra with hydraulic discs all the way down to Sora (I think)), but the top end aluminum model for about $1,750 complete might be too tempting. If I could find a complete, used Atlantis within a few $100 bills of that of course I wouldn't be tempted by the GT, but everyone seems to be holding onto their Atlantii these days! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I spent ~3 years on a Salsa Vaya, and it was *extremely *capable on dirt/gravel and pavement. There is something about a steel frame/fork that just plain works on dirt and gravel roads. I have a 29er that's built around an aluminum frame and carbon fork, but I will probably switch to a steel fork to smooth out the bigger bumps. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Bikes like the RLT and others mentioned here make a lot of sense IMHO. I'm doing RAGBRAI in July and on a internet forum I was reading, there was a thread that essentially amounted to people wringing their hands about the fact that a couple of stretches of gravel might occur on the route. I refrained from responding, but my thought was that if they are that worried about gravel, maybe they've got the wrong bike. These road bikes that offer clearance for bigger tires, and are equipped to take fenders (and racks?) don't give up much to a racing bike and are a lot more versatile. I think I'm going to ride my Surly Straggler on RAGBRAI this year and I've done two 100+ mile gravel grinders on it since May. I welcome a stretch or two of gravel! Shaun Meehan On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Bill and Leslie , Yes Yes Yes ! Getting very warm !I've never ridden a mixte, let alone a 60cm one with a nice tall front end . I'd like a bit taller than my 60cm. Bombadil, and with possibly a bit lower trail and even more front-center distance. Longer chainstays possibly also ! As long as the front end can be as stable as my Bomba even with front loads when standing and climbing, I'm in with the TT being gone. If not, I can still live with a TT, but boy, mixte's just have an appealing look to me :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
And what is this paragon that Bill is so infatuated with? On 06/25/2014 10:37 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: The BB drop on the larger models is perfect for a 650b conversion... -J On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 5:19:41 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: A Custom Frame of course ! Something like the diagatube 60cm. Bombadil or Appaloosa but as a Mixte, without the TT. With 3 bottle holders and all the braze on fixins. Hey . . it's as modern as modern can get ! Garth's future bike? : http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/2349587723/mountain-mixte-custom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I've never ridden a Roadeo; hell, I've never been close to a Roadeo. But from my experience with Grant's designs, I'd have to say that my targets for fleet inflation, in order of desire, are the Roadeo and the Hunquapillar. I don't know if these meet the thoroughly criterion. On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:53 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say my modern bike is my Roadeo. On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Yes! On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Modern. what's this word mean? Modern. Siri, define modern. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
A couple of times, I've caught myself drooling over custom Ti gravel grinders. Seven makes some really attractive ones, and there's a local-ish-to-me builder in Guelph, ON called True North. He builds modern-styled steel and Ti bikes, including SS coupled Ti tandems (!) His style is certainly not BoB-ish, but those bikes are probably light as heck, and undoubtedly super fun to ride. http://www.truenorthcycles.com/ KJ On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Steve That's a Niner RLT9. As pictured, it's their 4-star build, which reportedly is a 19lb bike. RLT stands for Road Less Travelled. I wonder how many of the folks at Niner are up to speed on their Frost? On Thursday, June 26, 2014 3:47:49 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: And what is this paragon that Bill is so infatuated with? On 06/25/2014 10:37 PM, justin...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The BB drop on the larger models is perfect for a 650b conversion... -J On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Roadeo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
This Niner RLT 9 is a cool bike no doubt. It tugs at several of my strings. I've gone back and looked at it several times. Did it again today having read this post. I went and looked at Bike Rumors review Bike Rumor Niner RLT 9 Review http://www.bikerumor.com/2014/06/04/review-niner-rlt-9-gravel-road-bike/. But... you don't need to read into that review too deeply before you get to suggestions of carbon bars and flexible seat posts to get away from the jariness of the aluminum frame. Correct me but I don't think a rock-hard aluminum frame will never plane. It will never have a nice, compliant ride, and it will never give you the feedback and comfort of a good steel, ti or even carbon frame. I dream of Calfee's too. And Co-Motions, Maps, AHH's and Black Mountain Monster Cross's. Dreamin' is good! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Bill and Leslie , Yes Yes Yes ! Getting very warm !I've never ridden a mixte, let alone a 60cm one with a nice tall front end . I'd like a bit taller than my 60cm. Bombadil, and with possibly a bit lower trail and even more front-center distance. Longer chainstays possibly also ! As long as the front end can be as stable as my Bomba even with front loads when standing and climbing, I'm in with the TT being gone. If not, I can still live with a TT, but boy, mixte's just have an appealing look to me :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Bikes like the RLT and others mentioned here make a lot of sense IMHO. I'm doing RAGBRAI in July and on a internet forum I was reading, there was a thread that essentially amounted to people wringing their hands about the fact that a couple of stretches of gravel might occur on the route. I refrained from responding, but my thought was that if they are that worried about gravel, maybe they've got the wrong bike. These road bikes that offer clearance for bigger tires, and are equipped to take fenders (and racks?) don't give up much to a racing bike and are a lot more versatile. I think I'm going to ride my Surly Straggler on RAGBRAI this year and I've done two 100+ mile gravel grinders on it since May. I welcome a stretch or two of gravel! Shaun Meehan On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Bill and Leslie , Yes Yes Yes ! Getting very warm !I've never ridden a mixte, let alone a 60cm one with a nice tall front end . I'd like a bit taller than my 60cm. Bombadil, and with possibly a bit lower trail and even more front-center distance. Longer chainstays possibly also ! As long as the front end can be as stable as my Bomba even with front loads when standing and climbing, I'm in with the TT being gone. If not, I can still live with a TT, but boy, mixte's just have an appealing look to me :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I like the Straggler a lot. I wish it had a sloping TT. The rear dropouts are really clever for singlespeed versatility, but I'd prefer a normal vertical dropout. Even with those gripes, it's on the list and I like the pink. On Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:32:51 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Bikes like the RLT and others mentioned here make a lot of sense IMHO. I'm doing RAGBRAI in July and on a internet forum I was reading, there was a thread that essentially amounted to people wringing their hands about the fact that a couple of stretches of gravel might occur on the route. I refrained from responding, but my thought was that if they are that worried about gravel, maybe they've got the wrong bike. These road bikes that offer clearance for bigger tires, and are equipped to take fenders (and racks?) don't give up much to a racing bike and are a lot more versatile. I think I'm going to ride my Surly Straggler on RAGBRAI this year and I've done two 100+ mile gravel grinders on it since May. I welcome a stretch or two of gravel! Shaun Meehan On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Bill and Leslie , Yes Yes Yes ! Getting very warm !I've never ridden a mixte, let alone a 60cm one with a nice tall front end . I'd like a bit taller than my 60cm. Bombadil, and with possibly a bit lower trail and even more front-center distance. Longer chainstays possibly also ! As long as the front end can be as stable as my Bomba even with front loads when standing and climbing, I'm in with the TT being gone. If not, I can still live with a TT, but boy, mixte's just have an appealing look to me :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Well...if I won the lottery ,making me wealthy enough to retire and take care of family and do something philanthropic etcmaybe A Cervelo(Designed by Canadians)road bike and then I can blend in with all of those well-to-do folks who ride Cervelos. Actually, CF and all, I think they're quite aesthetically pleasing and a couple of people I've talked to really enjoy them...at least ...I hope they really do enjoy them and aren't just talking themselves into that state of mind because they've invested 5 figures in the bike. Probably a moot point , though, because I'm pretty happy with what I have. I do enjoy looking at and talking about what other people have, too. Another more real-world choice would be a fat bike.Some Surly model perhaps...I think the latest is the Ice-cream truck.Those Surly people do some great work and don't take themselves too seriously. They haven't forgotten that a bike should be , above all else,fun On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I have told more than one person to check out the book, and everyone who has comes away with at least some amount of perspective they didn't have. I don't think there is anything life altering in the book but the fact that someone is sticking their neck out and saying it makes a big difference. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Well...if I won the lottery ,making me wealthy enough to retire and take care of family and do something philanthropic etcmaybe A Cervelo(Designed by Canadians)road bike and then I can blend in with all of those well-to-do folks who ride Cervelos. Actually, CF and all, I think they're quite aesthetically pleasing and a couple of people I've talked to really enjoy them...at least ...I hope they really do enjoy them and aren't just talking themselves into that state of mind because they've invested 5 figures in the bike. Probably a moot point , though, because I'm pretty happy with what I have. I do enjoy looking at and talking about what other people have, too. Another more real-world choice would be a fat bike.Some Surly model perhaps...I think the latest is the Ice-cream truck.Those Surly people do some great work and don't take themselves too seriously. They haven't forgotten that a bike should be , above all else,fun On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Wrong thread, I should get more rest... On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I have told more than one person to check out the book, and everyone who has comes away with at least some amount of perspective they didn't have. I don't think there is anything life altering in the book but the fact that someone is sticking their neck out and saying it makes a big difference. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Well...if I won the lottery ,making me wealthy enough to retire and take care of family and do something philanthropic etcmaybe A Cervelo(Designed by Canadians)road bike and then I can blend in with all of those well-to-do folks who ride Cervelos. Actually, CF and all, I think they're quite aesthetically pleasing and a couple of people I've talked to really enjoy them...at least ...I hope they really do enjoy them and aren't just talking themselves into that state of mind because they've invested 5 figures in the bike. Probably a moot point , though, because I'm pretty happy with what I have. I do enjoy looking at and talking about what other people have, too. Another more real-world choice would be a fat bike.Some Surly model perhaps...I think the latest is the Ice-cream truck.Those Surly people do some great work and don't take themselves too seriously. They haven't forgotten that a bike should be , above all else,fun On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I'm with the others who said that rivendell or surly etc. steel bikes are fully modern. On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Yeah, these are bikes that have been refined by engineers and craftsmen in this day and age. They represent decades of work and I would think of them as modern I mean my Bombadil was made in 2010! On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with the others who said that rivendell or surly etc. steel bikes are fully modern. On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
On 06/26/2014 06:17 PM, Matt Beebe wrote: I'm with the others who said that rivendell or surly etc. steel bikes are fully modern. While I do not disagree with you, I think someone should point out this is probably not what the OP had in mind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I was just having this day dream of getting a Calfee Tetra Adventure http://calfeedesign.com/bicycle-quarterly-reviews-calfee-tetra-adventure/for 650b tires. I may have to get a custom low-trail fork and the custom feature of rim brakes for 650b wheels (Calfee only provide disc brake option for 650b wheels). The cost of the Calfee frameset is quite high, though. On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 1:58:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
A Custom Frame of course ! Something like the diagatube 60cm. Bombadil or Appaloosa but as a Mixte, without the TT. With 3 bottle holders and all the braze on fixins. Hey . . it's as modern as modern can get ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Joseph Ahearne makes some incredible loaded offroad mixte and mixte-like bikes. At NAHBS Sacto I hung out in his booth for a long long time. On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 2:19:41 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: A Custom Frame of course ! Something like the diagatube 60cm. Bombadil or Appaloosa but as a Mixte, without the TT. With 3 bottle holders and all the braze on fixins. Hey . . it's as modern as modern can get ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I'm very much not a fan of disk brakes and I'm man enough to admit much of that has to do with the fact I think they just uglify a bike. So, my modern bike will not have them. I have to say my modern bike is my Roadeo. I have it with Ultegra 6800 (which, incidentally is a very good mechanical groupset), Look clipless, and Rolf Vigor wheels. It does use a quill stem though, so I guess if I wanted to be more modern I would have gone with the threadless option. It's a modern bike though, even though it doesn't completely look it. I really like the Trek Domane...it's a great riding bike, can take sort of wide tires, is comfortable where it needs to be and I can get the bars to be level with the seat easily. If I was going to buy a new modern made bike that would probably be it. No carbon wheels for me though...I'd stick with a nice set of aluminum wheels with a wider rim (23mm wide or so). Honestly, my next bike might be a MAP Randonneur. Just awesome and completely cool rando bike. If I could get over the disk brake thing, I would think strongly about a Shamrock Cycles Cross Over. http://www.lugoftheirish.com/Shamrock_Cycles/See_the_frames/Pages/NEW%21_CrossOver-MonsterCX.html#1 On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:58:48 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
Modern. what's this word mean? Modern. Siri, define modern. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I'd get whatever generic carbon electronic bike came in a color I liked, just to see what the deal is with them. And feel silly riding it in my regular shorts, t-shirt and walking shoes. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:35:16 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Modern. what's this word mean? Modern. Siri, define modern. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
3 modern bikes of interest to me now: 1. Rivendell Roadeo, but I'd get cream headtube with some kind of metallic blue body. 2. Boulder 650b rando type lugged bike. Interested in trying those low-trail Rando machines. Super light tubing. 3. I saw a Trek on display at LBS that was a Domane or something like that. It had a one-colored, translucent ruby-colored frame. You could see the carbon through the glass-like clear coat. If they had one in Sapphire blue, I'd probably want one of those if someone had a gun to my head and said I have to right now buy a modern bike. But I wouldn't buy carbon bikes because I am afraid of carbon, and I like clearance for fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
The BB drop on the larger models is perfect for a 650b conversion... -J On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 4:58:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: Most (all?) of us have a strong affinity for steel bikes. Many of us like various classic or retro properties: lugs, friction dt shifters, fewer than 11 cogs, etc. Several of us really enjoy doing builds on classic bikes from the 70s/80s/90s etc. Many of us lament that nothing new or contemporary speaks to us at all. But many others of us do have openings in the stable for things that are decidedly new. Some of us run fatbikes. A few of us maybe has a Gates beltbike, or a newfangled folder, or a dual-suspension 29er. Some of us even have a carbon bike. My stable is now at 9 bikes all steel, but I'll admit that I'm pretty darned infatuated with this bike: https://s3.amazonaws.com/NinerCompleteBuilds/Complete_bike_images/RLT+9/RLT9_Force_4star.jpg A sloping TT road bike, with more BB drop than a cyclocross bike. 135mm rear end, disc brakes. Very smart front facing fork tips and normal wheel axles. Takes 29x1.75 tires without fenders, and would easily run 700x38 tires (tubeless) with fenders. Has all the integrated fender mount points. Has a PF30 BB that makes it easy to set it up as a singlespeed. Add to that I can get the frame/fork/headset from Jenson for $1050 and get a free $250 gift card for my next purchase(s). So it's an $800 frameset. I'm having a hard time thinking of anything not to like. Five years ago, when we whined that modern bikes were designed too much for pure road racers, this is the kind of thoroughly modern real-world bike I thought was missing. I have bikes that are setup to carry loads well. For mixed terrain stuff that I'd do unloaded, this bike would definitely get ridden. I imagine it would be incredibly fun Are there any thoroughly modern bikes that tempt you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: If you were going to go out and buy a fully modern contemporary bike, what would it be?
I know right!? On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:37:58 PM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote: The BB drop on the larger models is perfect for a 650b conversion... -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
