[RBW] Re: suggestions for a bike computer?

2014-09-15 Thread Garth
In the past I disliked all sort bike computer thingy that relied on some 
sort of calibration and all that, but now if I was going to get anything, 
it would be Garmin GPS thingy .  As stated, no wires, no calibration just 
turn it on , granted the UI is easy to follow . .  . lol.  

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[RBW] Re: 18 tooth jump on wide low double?

2014-09-16 Thread Garth
That'll work just fine .  I've ran a 48/44/26 and never had a problem 
shifting up/down the 44-26 with a Shimano double FD-5500 .  

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[RBW] Re: jockey wheels for yesteryear shimano

2014-09-17 Thread Garth
  for 6/7/8 speed here :  
http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-Derailleur-Pulley-Pair-fits/dp/B00367370Y/ref=sr_1_9?s=sporting-goodsie=UTF8qid=1410954246sr=1-9keywords=8+speed+derailleur+pulley

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[RBW] Re: Crabon forks are not your best bet for swordfighting

2014-09-17 Thread Garth

I enjoyed the video for none other than the sheer folly it all !  
ahahaahahahaahahahaha  

Silly human tricks !Giddy up !  

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[RBW] Re: Sam or Cheviot - what would you get for an all rounder?

2014-09-19 Thread Garth

  Neither !  lolToo short in top tube for I .   I choose a custom , 
unless another model comes out :)  

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[RBW] Re: SILVER crankset!!!!

2014-09-23 Thread Garth

 I do believe it was 4-5 years ago that their own crank was coming . .  . . 
.  lol !  

It'll be a 110/74 BCD crank though , it's simply the most versatile overall 
.

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Re: [RBW] Re: SILVER crankset!!!!

2014-09-24 Thread Garth
LoL ...   Yes Bill !   
The I of the beholder indeed ! 

The best bike ever, and the best parts ever .  . . .are Ones I HAVE !


On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:28:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 *Big tires are in the eye of the beholder.  28mm for some.  75mm for 
 others*
 *Narrow Q is in the eye of the beholder.  130mm for some.  165mm for 
 others*
 *Good shifting is in the eye of the beholder.  Doesn't chain suck for 
 some.  Doesn't make a sound for others*
 *Wide range gearing is in the eye of the beholder.  50-95 inches on a 
 double for some.  18-110 inches on a triple for others*
 *Difficult is in the eye of the beholder.  Can be done by a top builder 
 for some.  Is done by mass producers for others*

 On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:19:22 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
 Cyclery wrote:

 I lot of us don't consider 42 mm tires to be especially large.

 On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:24:53 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 09/24/2014 01:36 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: 
  It's difficult to have a narrow Q-factor and still have big tires and 
  good shifting and a wide range of gears. 

 A friend of mine has a Jeff Lyon L'Avecaise equipped with 650Bx42 Hetres 
 and a Rene Herse crank.  Big tires, good shifting and wide range, and 
 low Q.  It can definitely be done. 






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Re: [RBW] Re: SILVER crankset!!!!

2014-09-24 Thread Garth
Very Good Jim ! 

Yes .  . . I bought that theory too  . . .  and it's all preference .  It 
used to be that every crank was narrow and straight, I can't say that I 
particularly liked it either .  Even my '83 Stumpy back in the day had a 
narrow straight Sugino triple .  I like the way the XD's feel now :)  
Speaking of design, those stays clearly chowed how a narrow cranks can be 
in unison with wide tires .  Plus, you could use about any rings and any 
crank with it .   Brilliant ! 



 *Baseball is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical. 
 http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/y/yogiberra162048.html *
 *Yogi Berra 
 http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/y/yogiberra162048.html*

 So is cycling . .  .  . . 




On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:04:24 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:

 This post is addressed to nobody in particular, so don't take it 
 personal.  I
 Baseball is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical. 
 http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/y/yogiberra162048.html
 Yogi Berra 
 http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/y/yogiberra162048.html

 Read more at 
 http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/y/yogi_berra.html#S67Mo4PVRLlR5O8Z.99
 nstead, it's addressed towards group think that tends to 
 overtake any skepticism that might naturally occur towards new trends. 

 In many ways I am adherent to the old-school ways of doing things, but 
 if there's one area I really regret pursuing it's low-Q.  IT'S NOT FOR 
 EVERYONE AND IT'S NOT A PANACEA. 

 The hype about narrow Q-factor cost me a lot of cartilage in my knees. 

 Oh how many nights I laid in bed with throbbing knees.  If only I had 
 not listened.  What I really needed to do was go the opposite 
 direction.  I'm glad I finally came to realize that.  Otherwise, I 
 might not be riding at all, because it hurt so much. 

 Just think about it, next time you are bloviating about Q-factor. 

 Jim 
 The hype about narrow Q-factor cost me a lot of cartilage in my knees. 

 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  It's difficult to have a narrow Q-factor and still have big tires and 
 good 
  shifting and a wide range of gears. Personally, I like the direction 
 things 
  are going with the wide range 1x10 and 1x11 stuff. Single chainring 
  eliminates all these pesky front derailleur compatibility and 
 functionality 
  issues, and most chain suck issues. Rear derailleurs simply work more 
  reliably than front derailleurs, and 11-42 cassettes with a carefully 
  selected chainring size will get most of us up most of the grades that 
 we 
  ride. For example, for a hypothetical 700 mm wheel diameter, and a 36t 
  chainring, you get a range of 24-90 gear inches. I can sacrifice higher 
 and 
  lower gears to not have front derailleur problems anymore. 
  
  
  On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:31:01 AM UTC-5, ted wrote: 
  
  and whats the confidence interval ... 
  
  On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 6:54:30 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: 
  
  But that's only true 75% of the time... :) 
  
  On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Tim Gavin 
 tim@littlevillagemag.com 
  wrote: 
  
  Johan- 
  
  I rode a super low-Q Stronglight 99 triple on my Riv Road for several 
  months.  It's a very lovely, very narrow crank set.  I got it (from a 
 list 
  member) with standard extractor and pedal threading. 
  
  However, these old French cranks have very little distance between 
 the 
  big ring and the crank arm (that's how they have such low Q factor), 
 which 
  makes them difficult to shift properly.  I couldn't use any modern FD 
 with a 
  sculpted outer plate or it would hit the crank arm.  I had decent 
 luck with 
  a vintage Suntour Cyclone double FD, shifted friction with Silver 
 levers. 
  But with that setup it was still very reluctant to shift from the 
 small cog 
  to the middle without going to the big ring first. 
  
  A triple FD would have a sculpted inner plate to lift the chain 
 better 
  than the double FD, but I couldn't find any triple FDs, vintage or 
  otherwise, that don't also have a scuplted outer plate. 
  
  I recently swapped my Riv to drop bars and index shifting (8 speed 
 Campy 
  Ergos) and I couldn't get any FD to work with that Stronglight crank. 
  I 
  ended up swapping the Campy Racing Triple crank back on, which shifts 
  perfectly with the IRD Alpina FD. 
  
  I'm just pointing out that low-Q cranks with little space between the 
  big ring and the crank arm do have some complications.  Whether those 
  complications become drawbacks depends on your priorities.  :) 
  
  With drops and Ergo shifters, my Riv is at least 17% faster. 
  
  And 47% of all statistics are fictional.  :) 
  
  
  
  On Sep 23, 2014 7:20 PM, Johan Larsson seven@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
  
  If I were to design a crankset I'd make it with chain ring bolts 
 only 
  from the inside, like old SunTour XCM cranks but with a quite 
 narrow gap 
 

[RBW] Re: Microshift thumbies?

2014-09-25 Thread Garth
For those wanting friction thumbies on the cheap there's also the Falcon 
ones.

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[RBW] Re: Wide mouth Canti's

2014-09-26 Thread Garth
The CX-70 and the late model Tektro CR720 (2012 or so and newer) use 
Shimano Road pads, that's why they clear the stays .  

If you use canti brakes that have the smooth post type of pads, I know that 
Kool Stops can be trimmed at the end so that they also clear the stays . 

Pads by no means need to be the longer length  , standard Road size pads 
work just as well if not better.  

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[RBW] Re: Sunrace 9 speed 11-36

2014-09-26 Thread Garth

It's called a CSM 99 or M99 11-36 cassette if someone wants to do a online 
search. It's available from Amazon among others .

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[RBW] Re: Wide mouth Canti's

2014-09-26 Thread Garth


The only thing is that Paul's use the long, mtb pads .   They use kool-stop 
thinline pads, which I have never seen so I'm not sure if they are able to 
be shortened like the regular Eagle 2's are .  They likely are the same 
internal structure, but I don't know.  Inside the Eagles there is a metal 
frame the pad is formed around, but it does not extend the entire length of 
the pad , stopping right where the last notch in the pad surface is. 
That's where they can be cut off. Depending on the frame, you may need to 
slightly file it a hare to clear. 

I've used neither the 2 brakes you mentioned, but the Shimano appears to be 
a bit better in adjustability of the pad reach .  Maybe Pauls give you 
spacers like the Shimano, idk .  No 2 frames fit canti's the exact same 
way, so adjustability is always a big plus ! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wide mouth Canti's

2014-09-26 Thread Garth
Jim, you could start by getting some Kool Stop Eagle 2 Salmon pads, and 
cutting the ends of as I described above so they'll clear the forks :) 



On Friday, September 26, 2014 10:14:19 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I was thinking of retrofitting my Shimano cantis on the Soma GR with 
 the MTB type pads but I guess if I do that, they won't clear the fork? 
  I'm running 38mm Compass Loup Loups so maybe they aren't wide enough 
 to cause an issue, dunno. 

 Reason I want to replace the stock pads is that the stopping power is 
 pathetic with them...granted they are the CT91 so maybe that's a 
 factor also.  Hey, they were less than $20 for a whole bike's worth 
 and they look nice!. 

 I took the bike to the top of the mountain on the east side of San 
 Jose, CA when I was out there (Tully Rd) and descending was positively 
 scary. 

 -Jim Hey I like cheap shiny brakes Bronson 

 On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
  The CX-70 and the late model Tektro CR720 (2012 or so and newer) use 
 Shimano 
  Road pads, that's why they clear the stays . 
  
  If you use canti brakes that have the smooth post type of pads, I know 
 that 
  Kool Stops can be trimmed at the end so that they also clear the stays . 
  
  Pads by no means need to be the longer length  , standard Road size pads 
  work just as well if not better. 
  
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[RBW] Re: Frankenstein Bike

2014-09-27 Thread Garth
Likely he was focusing on the bars and bag and red whatever it wrapped 
around your bars, and nothing to do with the bike itself.  It's younique 
:)    in the way FrankyStein is younique !   

 One sees a monster, another sees a masterpiece , and they are both correct 
in their assumptions. 


On Friday, September 26, 2014 11:42:06 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 I'm off on Friday's while the rest of humanity in Los Angeles is madly 
 rushing to get home in petrol-chemical bubbles. I decided to do a ramble 
 over Pasadena way mail some letters go to Vroman's book store and have a 
 bite to eat. While resting a spell a fellow walks up to me and say's that's 
 a great Frankenstein bike but with nice parts. I didn't know entirely how 
 to respond? I could have gone through the litany of what makes this bike 
 special and the Rivendell ethos. Instead I just said thank you. 
  Interesting perceptions out there regarding bicycles.



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 ~Hugh


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[RBW] Re: Wide mouth Canti's

2014-09-28 Thread Garth

As I mentioned above, Eagle 2 pads are easily shortened.  Right where the 
last notch in the pad surface is you can snip the end off with a decent 
pair of utility scissors. You''ll notice there is metal frame inside the 
pad. File this just a but, maybe like a mm or 2  and you'll clear the stays 
.   

I too had thought of getting road pad holders and all, but since the Eagle 
2's are so easily modified it kinda made it a mute point to buy them. 

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[RBW] Re: baby boomer blues

2014-10-06 Thread Garth
alan, It's a saddle .  It's meant to work FOR You, not against you. It's a 
means to the experience of riding a bike. A means, not an end.  It's not 
the saddles fault, or ages fault, or anyone's fault.  You simply have a 
desire for something else that only You know of, and it's calling you . 

Go about your way with joyous abandon and everything will work out, it 
always does . 

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[RBW] Re: Warning to those who keep cameras in handlebar bags!

2014-10-08 Thread Garth

Maybe the camera caught the image of the can bursting . ..   lol   !!!  

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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Garth

I don't  get it either .  . .. . but wish them well also.

No bottle mounts though ?   If it's for style, rolleyes .   If it's for 
minimalism , shake o the head . If it's for cost saving .  . . . . it's 
not worth it !  LoL   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-10 Thread Garth
We go on because we LOVE going ON about this, that and the other , whatever 
and whoever they may be   :-)  

Every post is posted because the poster LOVES it , otherwise it would not 
be ! 

and it's all Good  !  


On Friday, October 10, 2014 6:53:00 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Och! Don't tell them that, Trenker! It's fun to see how long they'll go on 
 about something that isn't an issue. Well beyond Game of Thrones intrigue, 
 this. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, October 10, 2014 4:45:54 PM UTC-6, Trenker wrote:

 It says on the blug that there will be bottle mounts. On they will go.



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[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug

2014-10-11 Thread Garth
This 1x? has me thinking .  can a friction front shifter on the left be 
used to shift the rear dérailleur ?   

If wondering why I'd ask  lol.. because lefty is fun :)

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[RBW] Re: Splinting a carbon frame

2014-10-12 Thread Garth

All the world needs is some carbon glue  .  . .  ..  . lol  !   haH !  

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Over-the-knee knicker socks

2014-10-13 Thread Garth

Defeet Kneekers !

In Wool or Coolmax .   Wear these with any socks, as long as it goes with 
black  :)   

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[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-14 Thread Garth

   
   - Imitation is the greatest form of flattery 

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Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-15 Thread Garth
I take it you mean this rather tongue-in-cheek  . . lol  :)   In 
appreciation of .



On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:18:05 AM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am so glad that Rivendell invented the following:
 - Horizontal top tubes
 - Gently sloping top tubes
 - Lugs
 - Braze ons
 - Nitto components
 - Wool
 - Stripes
 - Chambray
 - Plaid
 - Baskets
 - Contrarianism
 - seat  head tube angles
 - Platform pedals

 I feel blessed to be able to bask in the light of the one, true bike 
 company. 

 -J




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[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants

2014-10-17 Thread Garth
Of course what's cold is relative to each person , that said, I love 
Outdoor Research Equinox Pants .   They are also a lightweight supple 
brushed nylon, but instead of relying on velcro externally, they have 
hidden drawcords around the the inside of the ankle . I wear them mostly as 
knickers by just pulling them up below the knees, or I can wear them as 
regular pants of course , though I need some sort of straps to keep them 
absolutely clear of the rings.  I much prefer the pants of my choice and 
using anything to strap them as opposed to a certain pair with velcro 
straps, which to me always looks weird . 

The main thing though, is these are regular looking outdoor/travel pants 
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[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-17 Thread Garth

I don't buy things based on a company's advertising or perceived attitude. 

The only thing that matters to me is is it what I really really want ? !  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv

2014-10-17 Thread Garth
The moment I cater to what other people think of who/what I associate with 
, I become their slave .   


All my life I have associated with whomever and whatever I desire , not 
without discord of course, but if I don't listen to and trust myself and my 
desires I imprison myself to their wants and desires which are fickle and 
always changing and never satisfied  .  Endless h e double toothpick !  

It's much funner being Free !  


On Friday, October 17, 2014 4:28:35 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:



 And yet, if a company's advertising/perceived attitude is strong enough, 
 bystanders will associate anyone displaying or using one of their 
 products with the attitudes portrayed in the advertising, and you might 
 not necessarily want yourself identified with those attitudes. 




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[RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Garth
It is what it is .  I don't find it out of line in price or function at 
all. XTR has always been the top of the line, cutting edge Shimano . 6 
Titanium cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers.  It's never been inexpensive in 
any way , nor should it be .   For those that simply want it, they're glad 
it's there , price is irrelevant . 

6 Titanium cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers, great !  

I'm happy using 6 and 7 speed FW's and doubles and triples myself .  FD's 
are great , as are 3 rings and Sun Tour Thumb shifters , but I'm sure 1x? 
are fine for certain bikes and places .


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[RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

2014-10-25 Thread Garth
David,  I'd be interested in how the MG-1 and FG-1 compare in regards to 
the feel of the cleats.   The MG-1's cleats are small, and with soft 
sandals it digs right into the flat platform , perfect.  But with the FG-1, 
the cleats are larger and I'm not sure they're really designed to dig in, 
rather more like ride on top of them, as the body itself is not flat with 
the curve of the body at the end. If they dig in into soft soles, the curve 
at the end would create a hump , which I'm not sure you'd notice or not 
!  

  I would not call them an updated MG-1, I think they're still being 
made.  It's it's own pedal altogether as the body shape is completely 
different, as in not  truly flat . 



On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:54:11 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:

 Wanted to update this thread. I bought 2 different pedals, Wellgo FG-1 and 
 GUB P186. Both are really light, both spin great. Sizes are slightly 
 different. The Wellgo FG-1 are an update to MG-1 and are very thin. 
 FWIW, I think the VP-001 are better looking pedals, but pricewise the 
 Wellgos were $38 shipped, and the GUBs were $33 shipped. Shipping, however, 
 was from China so it did take a few weeks to arrive.
 And of course they arrived the day before Riv had the Vp-001s back in 
 stock.
 David
 Chicago

 On Sunday, September 28, 2014 12:47:06 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 Thinking about a platform pedal.

 I like sliding my feet around on the pedals without having to lift them 
 up off the pedal to reposition.

 I don't like shoes getting locked into a position because the pedal 
 surface mates with grooves in the shoe sole, forcing you to lift the foot 
 off the pedal to adjust your foot position into your pedaling sweet spot.

 Does this mating happen with the gripsters and grip kings? Are the spikes 
 removable if desired? Or is it easy to shift the foot around without having 
 to lift off pedal to adjust?



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[RBW] Re: Big-big better than small-small?

2014-10-26 Thread Garth

 Yes  ,  Patrick :)  It's no accident I see so many pro racers riding the 
big rings up hills as much as they can :.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2010/04/the-big-ring-mechanical-or-psychological-advantage/

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[RBW] Re: Polling what's the best 650b touring tire?

2014-10-26 Thread Garth
   
700x38 Vittoria Rando Hypers, called Voyager Hyper now :)  

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[RBW] Re: Riv for the wife

2014-11-05 Thread Garth

The color of the frame is easy to change, don't let that deter you.  You 
can opt for Riv to repaint any frame you order, and that leaves you wide 
open choices !  From a simple one color scheme to whatever you can imagine 
:)

You can have them send it to their choice of painters, or you can just 
order it and if you have your own painter locally or anyone else !

Also, are you sure all Betty's are gone ?  Call them to confirm first. 

It's your money, exercise it as such with free choice :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-08 Thread Garth
Yes Patrick Moore ! 
It is all rather silly .   All these names for diets . HaH !

The funny thing about them all, is that once they are defined , they are 
impossible to follow , as they create a prison within their own rules . 

For every theory, there is another to refute it. For every refute, there is 
a counter . It never ends .

So to I, it's all false . Truth , real Truth to I , is irrefutable , 
unchangeable and Eternally Good (and I do not mean this as a corporeal 
perspective only).  And no man-made diet or way is any of those .  All 
these false ways of eating or fasting are an attempt to Free themselves 
from self begotten subjective woes of living , and the only true way to do 
this , is to see clearly the falsity of self begotten woe itself .  That 
food or conditions are never the matter, but the Spirit who is All , is the 
only matter as without the Spirit of the man, there is no man . 

The irony is , we're All Already Free !  So all these attempts to free 
ourselves with this and that way of eating and doing all eventually fail 
because there is no bondage to free oneself from !   



On Friday, November 7, 2014 5:17:27 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 It's hard to get annoyed at people who discover a way of eating that makes 
 them feel much better in many different ways, so I have no beef against the 
 -- what do you call'ems, those who eschew starch and eat mostly protein and 
 fat. My own take is that this is just one more example of how people thrive 
 on so many different diets. The Inuit, of course, were traditionally 
 notorious for living largely on meat, fat, and fish and, from what I've 
 read, they were normally healthy. OTOH, Orthodox monks, who never eat meat, 
 and eat dairy only on special occasions -- the very strict eat only 
 vegetables, and oil only on non-strict-fast days -- are themselves 
 notororious for living long and healthy lives, free in particular from the 
 chronic ailments (almost wrote aliments) suffered by the old accustomed to 
 what I think should be called the American commercial diet.  

 I was amused and annoyed to see that there is even a formal diet, with 
 websites, called the Daniel diet, after Daniel who refused Nebuchadnezzer's 
 rich palace food for legumes and who, with his friends, were healthier 
 after several months on them than the better fed.


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[RBW] Re: OT (grant-related, not Riv-related): lo-carb, high fat protein, ketosis, c.

2014-11-11 Thread Garth
LoL 

Every theory of diet , in the end, negates itself by it's theoretical 
nature , always subject to change .   Anything that is changeable , is not 
Truth .  For Truth to be Truth, it must be Absolute and without 
opposition.   And I know of only One . .  . . and a Great One at that :)
And EveryOne inherently knows it without thought of it , as EveryOne IS it .




On Sunday, November 2, 2014 3:24:52 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:

 First off, this isn't necessarily Riv-related, or even bike-related 
 technically, but it is Grant-related. If this falls outside the parameters 
 of this list, let me know, and Jim feel free to delete. 

 I've been following Grant's new blog for his new book and am genuinely 
 interested in the diet/exercise viewpoint that he discusses and follows. 
 I guess my questions are (and answers probably should be offlist I guess):
 Anyone follow a similar diet?
 Your general experiences?
 Your reasons for adopting this diet, and your experience in the transition 
 period?
 Difficulties?
 What would you bring on a lengthy bike ride (bike-related!) or overnight?
 Thanks,
 David
 Chicago


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[RBW] Re: Revelate Pika bag: dimensions and reviews?

2014-11-12 Thread Garth
I can't recall the post Patrick, but you asked about this once before when 
you were looking for bags.  I have a Pika and I posted this photo of it.   
Yes, the capacity is large fully expanded outward (behind , not down) , but 
at it's smallest it's still got good capacity but is very very stable , no 
swaying at all . 

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/44fwwuUGIeHf_ekplhDlN3Cp3kpjgA87sF6gwBMK7cM?feat=directlink



On Monday, November 10, 2014 4:35:19 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 In the ongoing search for the ideal seat bag, I came across the Pika which 
 looks as if it might have the best of both (small and big) worlds; and it 
 comes in red. Does anyone own a Pika? If so, can she or he give me the 
 dimensions both expanded to the maximum and cinched as small as possible?

 If anyone has one to sell, I might be interested, particularly if it is 
 red. My Jandd Mountain Wedge III is too hugely huge for my purpose and I 
 *might* be persuaded to add that to the bid side of the trade -- I 
 realize that the Revelate is 2X the cost of the Jandd.

 'Nother question: The Minihaha small saddlebag is 9.5 X 6 X 6. Can one 
 get a large Riv waterbottle (a wee bit over 10 at the top of the spout) 
 into one of these without forcing things?

 I expect that the Revelate design is better for my needs, but just in case 
 ...

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[RBW] Re: Yet _even more_ travel coffee questions!

2014-11-23 Thread Garth
Bialetti Moka Pot , there is no other way :) 

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[RBW] Re: Winter means looking for problems that might not exist and solving them. Hence, Stem Shifters!

2014-11-25 Thread Garth

Well yes Bill . . .  lol   .   Problems do not Truly exist , and 
conversely, neither do Solutions ;)

Perfection Reigns Eternal !  

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Re: [RBW] Product placement coup by Riv in Consumer Reports review of Ford Transit Connect van

2014-11-27 Thread Garth

  I remember seeing this somewhat odd review a couple of months ago 
when researching the van/car and noticed the frame . It's definitely not a 
large Atlantis frame at all. The van in the vid is the long wheelbase 
version with 2 rear rows of seats that fold down(seating 7). The seats are 
not removable though in any way .  In the short WB version(seating 5), it 
has just one rear row of seats that not only fold down, but up and forward 
behind the front seats giving you use of the full height of the inside from 
floor to roof.  I don't think a bike would fit lengthwise however ;( .   So 
I can't yet think of a way to get the full inside height on the LWB 
versions. 

 The new Transit Connect comes in 2 versions, the commercial panel and a 
passenger with full windows , even a panoramic roof option (it's awesome 
!)  It's based on Ford Focus platform, so it's got the body style and 
capacity of a small van, but the handling of the Focus, albeit one with a 
higher center of gravity and more curb weight and stronger suspension :) 

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Re: [RBW] Product placement coup by Riv in Consumer Reports review of Ford Transit Connect van

2014-11-28 Thread Garth
Just for clarification Mathew, there is the *Transit Connect*, which for 
2014 is completely new(based on Focus platform), completely unrelated to 
the prior TC vans .  These both are compact vans.

Then there is the new for 2015 *Transit* full size van, called the T-Series 
which replaces the E series full size vans. These may or may not be in use 
yet, I'm not positive but I'm sure there are some already rolling. 

So when you say Transit van, I''m unsure which you mean, the full size of 
compact, and if compact , which version(year) ? 

 Yes, Ford could have chosen another name for one or the other to prevent 
any confusion , coulda woulda mighta but didn't . . .  lol.  :) 



On Friday, November 28, 2014 9:05:49 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:

 I do not know about the review, but can say ~58cm bikes (both customs so 
 not exactly standard 58) 700c with fairly large tires can be transported 
 upright in the commercial version of the Transit.

 The advantage of using Carshare program over car ownership is I can select 
 from a number of vehicles, including the Transit depending on my needs.  I 
 moved my bikes up to my father's home for a few weeks last summer while I 
 stayed there to assist with some mobility upgrades to his house.  Was able 
 to move the bikes standing up no problem.


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[RBW] Re: Groupsets. Shimano, Campy, etc.

2014-12-01 Thread Garth

For the owners of cassette hubs, if you have problems with the FW 
mechanism, can/do you not have a spare FW mech. on hand and replace it and 
deal with fixing it(or sending it to the mfr) or trashing it later so you 
don't have to send the entire wheel away ?  Sending the wheel just makes no 
sense nor is it really reasonable for those who don't keep spare entire 
wheels on hand.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Groupsets. Shimano, Campy, etc.

2014-12-01 Thread Garth
Thanks Mark,

   Yikes about the PW attachment of the CS shell.   I for one prefer the 
FW/CS body mechanism and it's attachment not being able to render a wheel 
unusable .  I do not own CS hubs , my needs have always been served with 
FW's and FW hubs . I have 2 sets of Phil FW hubs and they've been flawless 
themselves, as expected.  I'm all about user serviceability for the most 
part.  No, I don't tear down FW's completely but do take off the cogs and 
clean the inside and relube them.  I'll likely never buy a high end CS hub 
unless it's design is not vulnerable like the PW CS hub is in it's 
attachment and need to send in the entire wheel to PW to get it fixed.  
That's just unreasonable to me.   I guess that's why I love the 
independence of the FW system :)





On Monday, December 1, 2014 11:47:37 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:

 In regards to the Phil Wood hubs, the problem is often with the ratchet 
 ring which is threaded into the hub shell/body. The issue isn't often that 
 the pawls themselves are faulty, they just can't engage with a faulty 
 ratchet ring. And for whatever reason Phil Wood does not sell the tool to 
 remove and replace the ratchet ring, even to bike shops. I've read many 
 times that there was as bad run of ratchet rings several years back and 
 this was a common replacement. 

 On my hub, the ring and pawls all look fine to me, the issue is that the 
 spring which pushes the pawls outward into the ratchet ring isn't very 
 strong. A ticker oil like Tenacious oil, combined with colder weather is 
 just too much for the spring to force the pawls into the ratchet and 
 engage. 




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[RBW] Re: Daring to wrench on my Riv's?

2014-12-05 Thread Garth
  Fear , any and every fear, has no basis in Truth.  No self existent power 
to stand on it own.  Hence, it is no-thing , nothing. 

You already know everything you'll ever know :)

This IS Absolute Truth ! 


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[RBW] Re: OT: best Mac for sophisticated Word Processing, for the $?

2014-12-10 Thread Garth
A 27 iMac with 5K Retina Display, max out the ram, up the processor and 
graphics card if needed :)


It'll cost about the same as a custom Riv frame , won't last as long, but 
really so what ?   Life is worth living, not worth saving ;)




On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:05:25 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 My 17 MacBook Pro is getting on for 5 years old. It's a trooper but I am 
 wondering about eventual replacement once this one reaches the point where 
 it can't work well with the latest Word or Mac OS and ditto Illustrator.

 I am pretty sure that, soon, I'll no longer need a portable computer for 
 work, so a laptop won't be necessary. The principal considerations will be:

 1. Can handle the latest Mac version of Word. (I would like to bury Word 
 and piss on its grave, but my work requires Word and only Word. Open Office 
 don't cut it.)

 2. Can accept if it doesn't come stock with 4 GB of Ram.

 3. Costs as little as possible.

 I had a very satisfactory Mac Mini (Thanks, Ryan) but gave it away to a 
 friend; it also was 2010. Is the Mini a good candidate?

 4. Available used if possible.

 I think my optimum desideratum would be a used -- what, late model Mini? 
 (Something stationary) with an iPad or clone to replace laptop and Fire.

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[RBW] Re: ISO used, wind-blocking, UV blocking, decent quality cycling shades

2014-12-11 Thread Garth

Get another opinion , truly .Just because someone says jump  .  . . . 
.  .  gotta trust thySelf .  

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[RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

2014-12-18 Thread Garth

True Christmas is the Celebration of OneSelf as Christ , the symbol of The 
Perfect Self,  I AM that I AM . Free from want, for all is Perfect and in 
Perfection there is no lack, hence, nothing to want of.   The meaning of 
Heaven on Earth . 

 So truly, every moment is Christmas :)   

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[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

2014-12-19 Thread Garth

DT shifting was/is great with low front end bikes and low drop bars :)
No so great with tall front end bikes intended for a more upright position 
and high bars , the reach and bend are awkward .   

Bar end , not for me either .  Too close to my knees when turning sometimes 
.   

My choice, bar top thumbies :)   ding ding ding ! ! !   we have a winner !  

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[RBW] Re: shimano cx-70 canti question

2014-12-20 Thread Garth
3 things

1. what frame is it for ?   There is no one standard for how exactly a 
canti mounts as every frame has different stays and different designs . For 
example, a cross/road frame is not the same as say a Bombadil/Atlantis etc. 
, they are intended for much different tires .

2. in the shimano vid, notice how high the straddle hanger is centered 
above the tire, the center point .   On the riv photo, notice how low it 
is.  Notice in the shimano vid it does not appear the tire would come off 
easily or is very very close to it , because the hanger is centered so 
high.  
Try lowering it's center as much as possible.

3. I am not a fan of the fixed cable hangers .   I prefer the classic ones 
that you can remove the cable completely from the carrier , it's just so 
much easier . http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca21.htm .   I've never had 
any problem with them staying centered, even on brakes that have no tension 
adjustment like the original Deore's .   If the other hanger doesn't work 
for you, just get some of the basic one from a local shop or a friend , as 
almost everyone who does their own bike work has some in the misc. bin.  




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Re: [RBW] shimano cx-70 canti question

2014-12-22 Thread Garth
Replace just the pads Mike, Shimano road pads or *any* other brand Shimano 
road compatible pad .   The lesser CX-50 does not use cartridge pads fwiw 
and are specific to that brake only . 


On Saturday, December 20, 2014 2:30:02 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:

 i have my eye on the CX 70 brakes but im curious if the entire pad and 
 holder can be replaced or are you confined to using that particular holder 
 and replace pads when needed 
  
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[RBW] Re: Adding braze-ons and painting my new Rambouillet

2014-12-29 Thread Garth

Yes, Bilenky as you're in central PA.  Franklin Frames is also great, but 
in central Ohio around Newark .   I had him repaint my Bombadil and add a 
braze-on .  

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[RBW] Re: Favorite weather to ride in.

2015-01-01 Thread Garth


   The sevens are heaven , the eights are great and the nines are fine :)   
Dry or humid matters not .  

 But really, there is nothing like a balmy summer day with a good breeze 
and the sweet sounds of all the trees and greenery blowing with the wind 
:)  

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Re: [RBW] Re: The joy of a bicycle.

2015-01-24 Thread Garth

Without BEing, which is the JOY of Existience  , there are no bicycles to 
exist and enjoy , let alone anyone to enjoy them :)  

I come here just like everyone else who rides a bike . As I am moved to 
respond, I do it and forget about being Riv content correct , as that 
is wholly subjective in eyes of each reader ;-)

 
On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 2:04:34 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  Rivendell content?

  



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Re: [RBW] Re: The joy of a bicycle.

2015-01-24 Thread Garth

Yes Patrick . . .  that's fair  . . and certainly alright.  I was thinking 
of the times in my life when I had not been able to ride at all, sometimes 
for years . . . .  and how I thought the world would end without riding .   
Funny thing happened on the way to the end . . .  . it never came  . .  
ahahahahaha !  !   I realized Life itSelf was the Greatest of All 
regardless of what I did or did not do, ate or did not eat, thought or not 
thought, and if I did ever ride again, great !, if not ever great !  
but BEing Alive and Life is Incomparably Awesome regardless , 
Unconditionally Wholly and Completely .Maybe that seems a bit too 
simple and narrow of focus , and I mean no disrespect certainly to anyone  
. . . . . I just felt moved and trusted to express it here as a 
complimentary  , though to some it may contrasting . 

If ya cannot please and trust yourself, you're pleasing no one  my quote 
.. lol 



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 (Or is that aum.)

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 agrees with Garth, though he questions his manner of expression.

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 And I feel the same way Now,  BEing  . . . Existing 

 BEing Existence 

 what does it matter how far, how long , how this that and the other ?   
 Really ?   lol

 It doesn't . . . .for BEing has no end nor beginning, it is every-where 
 and every-thing , all-the-time

 Nothing can add to it's Greatness and certainly nothing can diminish it . 
 For BEing is Eternal and All :) 

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[RBW] Re: The joy of a bicycle.

2015-01-24 Thread Garth
And I feel the same way Now,  BEing  . . . Existing 

BEing Existence 

what does it matter how far, how long , how this that and the other ?   
Really ?   lol

It doesn't . . . .for BEing has no end nor beginning, it is every-where and 
every-thing , all-the-time

Nothing can add to it's Greatness and certainly nothing can diminish it . 
For BEing is Eternal and All :) 

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

2015-02-11 Thread Garth
First, what you can't see and what is not published, *the tube selection* , 
as well as the obvious extra tube :-)

Also, the* TT* and *front-center *is longer on the Hunq. , as well as longer* 
chaninstays *and more* fork rake* .  

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[RBW] Re: Velo News on Bike Weight

2015-02-16 Thread Garth


Enjoy the ride  .  . . . regardless ;-) The funny thing about 
weighting for Perfection - the perfect ride , the perfect moment , the 
perfect bike , the perfect body  .  . . .  . .is that it never really comes 
.  Oh yes . . . it seems to for a little while .  . . . but it quickly 
fades and the  weight continues  . . . . lol .

   Heavvv-vy  . . . . sigh .  .  . . .  

   Fear not . .  . . fear nothing !   

 Ever noticed . . .  in Love . .  . .  time stands still and is ever 
wait-less ?Material-ity feels weight-less ? Yes . .  .  .  to 
ride for the Love of BEing Life itself nothing matters but the Joy of it .  

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[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise rear derailers?

2015-01-24 Thread Garth

   Rapid Rise was destined to  crash and burn from the beginning   . . 
. lol  .  

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[RBW] Re: shimano cx-70 canti question

2015-01-05 Thread Garth

The canti's which I still prefer are all the vintage Shimano's that use 
the good ol' smooth post pads .  On these the pad mounts in front of the 
arm .  With Kool Stop dura type pads, which are needlessly long , they do 
not clear the stays .  However, the pads are easily trimmed of the trailing 
end, where the first notch in the pad is.  Voilla !  Now the pads clear 
the stays :)   You can also buy road type replaceable post type 
holders/pads in their place, but you don't save anything on replacement 
pads. 

I love these canti's because they are so easily adjusted and offer a huge 
range of fit .   They are great brakes, regardless of the era they were 
made.  

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Bonk?

2015-01-12 Thread Garth
  
   In regards to ANY position of diet being responsible this, that and the 
other :

 No matter how many times you repeat and rearrange a myth ,what has no 
basis in truth will never be true ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Bonk?

2015-01-12 Thread Garth


On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 9:16:00 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Do you realize, Garth, you aren't saying anything? It's conversely true 
 that denying the truth doesn't make it less true. Grin.


  Exactly Patrick !Denying the Truth does not make it less so .   

  Herein rests the Quest-ion ,  

  What is Truth ? 

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[RBW] Re: How long does the rivbike.com $75+ free shipping via USPS take?

2015-01-07 Thread Garth

UPS Surepost can vary wildly in speed, I liken to USPS Parcel Post, meaning 
it gets the (s)lowest priority of all packages and delivery time is forever 
uncertain .  

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

2015-03-18 Thread Garth

In regards to tubing of any bike , focusing on tube sizes/dimensions and 
quality of the steel is okay to putter around, but it overlooks the fact 
that a bike frame is One Whole unit , Complete .  It's not just the 
tubes, but every detail of it from design, material, shape and bending of 
tubes and welding it *all together* that make the frame ride like it does.  
Focusing on just one aspect of it alone will never explain the unique , 
intangible qualities of the Whole Complete Frame .

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[RBW] Re: thoughts on wheels.....

2015-03-18 Thread Garth

   Yes , Wheels are an Investment. As important as the frame , to me. And a 
good wheel is only as good as it's weakest part . 

I've always used FW's and am not sure if I'll ever use a cassette hub or 
not.  To me the FW system is preferred because of it independence .  The FW 
mechanism, often the most vulnerable part of the wheel, is not dependent on 
the (ever changing)hub model or manufacturer, it's universal . With 
cassettes everything it proprietary , un-universal .  Pros and cons to each 
for sure :) .

Phil FW hubs are still the bees knees for me though .  Years ago I asked 
Joe Young what hubs he preferred and why and he told me PW because of 
design and thickness of the flange , it said it just made for a better 
wheel to him.   I asked him why  he didn't sell Shimano hubs , and his 
reasoning was about the same as mine  cartridge bearing hubs have been 
around since the 70's , who wants to mess with cups and cones anymore when 
you don't have to ?  And they did not build as nice to him as the PW :)  

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[RBW] Clem info for the Tall and Long

2015-03-18 Thread Garth

  I had some questions about the Clem for Keven about the 59cm. Clem that 
he graciously answered for me and thought I'd pass them along . 

1. The head/front end(top of the head tube) on the Clem is virtually 
identical in  height as my 60cm. Bombadil .  
2. The top tube is 61cm-ish .  That's 2cm. shorter than the Bomba , :(  . 
(Too short for me,, boo-hoo , lol )
3. The head and seat angles he as not positive on, likely the same as the 
Bomba , which is a 72 ST and 71 HT. 
4. In regards to number one, to get the highest bars, the steering tube is 
always left as long as possible ! 
5. The BB and headset are likely Tange's . 
6. If you want a different front cable hanger, you can buy one separately 
for it .  I assume he meant the would install it in place of the stock one. 


  And he welcomes questions, which is awesome !  !  

Oh yes ...  he also added this : * Grant is making noise about creating a 
 64cm Clementine which would have a bigger headtube (higher handlebars) than 
 your Bombadil and the 59cm Clem's, so that might be worth waiting for/ 
 signing up for.  Not sure if it will be included with the first shipment*
 .


So there just *may *be a 64cm Clementine !  Which I'd love as a top tube on 
a Clem would be close to my max clearance wise .  I always wanted a Betty 
or something like it in the past but it was always just not quite tall/long 
enough for me , so this solves all that :)  Yeah ! 

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[RBW] Re: Flipped Albatross

2015-03-18 Thread Garth

  I'll echo the sentiments , just plain odd feeling, and not in a good way 
!  

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[RBW] Re: Clem info for the Tall and Long

2015-03-18 Thread Garth
  Oh yes, bike fit to me is quite personal .  Yes, there are generalities 
and not only is every body form different, but so is flexibility/function 
of that form, and the ever so infinite intangibles , called feel or 
sense of unity and balance with the bike , etc . Based on body shape 
alone almost any fit formula would have me on shorter top tube.  15 years 
ago when I had my first custom frame built the fit kit formula said I 
should ride with 59cm or so TT .  I said forget that , that was exactly 
what I knew did not feel right to me, from years of riding racing frames 
just like it that I always felt unbalanced and cramped on. I knew what I 
wanted intuitively and told him it was my way or no deal. That road/sport 
touring frame is a 62cm TT, 62cm ST, and I specified 18 chainstays and an 
extra inch on the head tube.  Turns out years later when I ditched drop 
bars for the Albatross after literally being unable to ride for a few 
years, I found I could use a little more length and front end height still 
! So I got the Bombadil and it was bliss !  Even on it I use a 130mm zero 
rise stem . It just feels right when sitting or standing on the steepest 
of hills. So the Bomba is my current reference for a frame. I would like 
the option to try a little higher bar even , hence it sounds like a 64cm 
Clementine would be good.  It may be too tall as a Clem with the TT , but 
as a step thru there's no issue with clearance.  The 64 Clementine may or 
may work for you then, if they do indeed make it, you'd have to measure 
your current frames to see how high 64cm is and how much post is showing if 
any . 




On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 3:38:23 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:



 On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 11:37:21 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:


 I'm 'bout 6'2 with a PBH of 'bout 36.5 . Yes, I was under the 
 impression that the 59 would be longer than it was also    I was kinda 
 expecting it to be really long and tall in the front also . The 59 Clem 
 isn't long enough for me as I was hoping it would be at least as long as 
 the 63cm TT of the Bomba.


 Not to imply that you don't know what fits you, but it's interesting how 
 we're both looking for the same fit, but for such different reasons.  I'm 
 about your overall height but, unlike you, with a short (34 1/4) PBH.  
 I've discovered that I like/need a long top tube too but, in my case, it's 
 precisely *because* I'm all torso.   My upper body feels cramped and 
 hunched on a short top tube.   I really would have assumed that you'd be 
 the exact  opposite.  

 Rivendell's current expanded sizing system, with fewer frame sizes than 
 before, has not been kind to me, and I have invariably been 
 falling between sizes:  The frames that are long enough for me in the top 
 tube don't provide any standover clearance at all.  The Clem may be more of 
 the same for me, but I decided that it's inexpensive enough to take the 
 chance!   Worst case scenario, it becomes strictly a town bike, with no 
 off-road duty.   Maybe the inverse could be true for you?


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[RBW] Re: Clem info for the Tall and Long

2015-03-22 Thread Garth

For clarity sake , standover height is always measured in the middle of 
top tube. When comparing models you must take into account bottom bracket 
drop also . I doubt the Clem is going to have as much drop as the Bombadil 
or Hunqa for example , probably more like the Cheviot.  

   All in all, as the Clem is for 45mm tires and above , which I was not 
aware or until the presale blug, it's not what I really really want and if 
it's not then I let it go . Something like the Cheviot appears more to my 
liking , as if the specs are accurate it would likely be more like what I 
DO want :) Or I'll just get custom.  I'm good with 50mm max. tires, even 
40's Vittoria Hypers which I have on my Bomba, they sing on the road:)  I 
really don't like super fat tires anyways as I know of none I'd *want* to 
ride on . If they made super size Hypers that'd be great, but they don't.  
I'm at a point in life where I only want what I Love , so buying something 
like a big bulky frame just to see if it may work and if not sell later, 
nah ... been there and done it. Not again. 

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Re: [RBW] check those bottom brackets

2015-03-19 Thread Garth


https://thebikesmiths.com/uploaded/thumbnails/db_file_img_4941_500xauto.jpg
Tim ,  When changing from the pre cartridge days to the present BB's it's 
not always so simple as just saying my old BB is a 124 so that's what I'll 
get .   

  First of all, while JIS is a standard, different brands and models do not 
always set in the crank arms the same. You may have to try multiple brands 
or lengths and spacers to get it dialed in.  I've found sometimes it helps 
to go with a slightly longer spindle , like in your case, the 127, because 
it has more inherent length on the drive side, meaning less or no spacers 
at all. This may or may not lead to a few mm's extra on the left, which is 
of no concern .  We're talking millimeters here , not centimeters , a few 
here are there are unnoticed .

Here is the Tange BB chart, for example, it's very useful and you could 
download it for keeping.  I believe Shimano BB's also use these proportions 
. 

On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 8:32:22 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

 While riding yesterday, I noticed that my cranks were wobbling.  I stopped 
 in the nearest bike shop (since I was not in my home town) to see if I 
 could just tighten it up quickly.  The tech tried that and found that the 
 bottom bracket was shot: the cups have worn too much.  

 Thankfully, he didn't charge me anything since he didn't do much.  But 
 it's something I could have figured out easily myself, if only I'd noticed 
 the wobble while at home.

 It felt secure and strong as I commuted on it the prior 3 days, but then I 
 noticed about .5 mm of side-to-side play on Friday.

 It had unknown mileage: this was the original BB-M730 (loose ball) in my 
 '88 KOM.  I'd cleaned and re-greased it just a couple weeks earlier when I 
 had my frame re-finished.

 I really like the crank; it's 48-38-28 Biopace.  It just feels right, and 
 I ride so fast and easy on that bike.  

 One issue:  the original spindle is 124.5 mm.  The closest replacement I 
 could find was a 124 mm from VO.  When I install it, the non-drive side 
 will now be .5 mm closer to the frame, correct?  I don't think it's worth 
 worrying about.

 -Tim

 On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 2:17 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript: 
 wrote:

 Not a major project but one that was much easier done at home on my 
 schedule rather than a mid-tour breakdown.  

 Bottom brackets are pretty easy to forget about, but it's easy to slip 
 the chain off the inner ring  turn them by hand.  Spring is a good time, 
 and at-home is a good place.  My thought for the day.

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[RBW] Re: Clem info for the Tall and Long

2015-03-20 Thread Garth
  Kai ,  you would hear of such a measurement from many custom frame 
builders . Each builder though may measure it in their own way, maybe from 
a specific point of the shoulder, etc.  They often ask a whole lotta 
measurements . For mass market frames though , seat tube size by far rules .

Of course there is more to it than just measurements , as I mentioned there 
are many intangibles like flexibility and personal preferences of all 
kinds.   While I understand the Riv Philosophy of PBH and fit and that it 
works for them, to me it also over generalizes like all formulas , which 
by their very nature, are limited. To me feeling centered within the bike , 
when the bike disappears beneath you, is the most important thing and no 
formula can tell you that, it just comes from knowing yourself and what 
works for you. I can't put it into words adequately as even words 
themselves are limited, you just know it when you experience it :) 



On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 9:46:42 PM UTC-4, Kainalu wrote:

 But how is it that I never hear talk of pit to palm measures. That seems 
 as important as pbh in the overall consideration. Humans have a lot of 
 deviations from the norm. My father, who also stood 5'20, had shorter arms 
 than I do, but looked as normal as the next giant. And an ex professional 
 skateboarding pal of mine, at averege height, has arms that hang to his 
 knees!, but you wouldn't notice until I said look. I always thought that 
 must his secret to success, those fantastic arms. Is there a term other 
 than PTP(Pit To Palm)? 
 -Kai 

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[RBW] Re: Clem info for the Tall and Long

2015-03-21 Thread Garth

Yes Matt, is does *appear *longer , even by measuring the full image with a 
ruler onscreen where it definitely IS longer.   So there seems to be direct 
contradiction here, with Keven's info and the image shown, which should be 
noted is only a prototype. The production frames are non-existent as of now 
. The pre-sale from the Blug info appears to be a pre pre-sale even, 
earlier than they had planned or wanted but they need some cash . 

It does not appear though, to be any higher front end than what Keven said 
though, so to have an overly long TT and not a proportionately higher head 
tube seems like it would be a bit odd .  Again , it's not until final specs 
are officially confirmed does any of this matter !We're all talking 
about Pie in the Sky, it looks great but you can't have it. 



On Thursday, March 19, 2015 at 5:31:56 PM UTC-4, Matt B. wrote:

 I'm sure the final geometry is probably still in the works but the top 
 tube on the prototype 59cm on the blug definitely looks longer than 
 61cm.It looks like it's about ~63cm actual, and maybe ~65cm horizontal.



 On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 9:12:25 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:


   I had some questions about the Clem for Keven about the 59cm. Clem that 
 he graciously answered for me and thought I'd pass them along . 

 1. The head/front end(top of the head tube) on the Clem is virtually 
 identical in  height as my 60cm. Bombadil .  
 2. The top tube is 61cm-ish .  That's 2cm. shorter than the Bomba , :(  
 . (Too short for me,, boo-hoo , lol )
 3. The head and seat angles he as not positive on, likely the same as the 
 Bomba , which is a 72 ST and 71 HT. 
 4. In regards to number one, to get the highest bars, the steering tube 
 is always left as long as possible ! 
 5. The BB and headset are likely Tange's . 
 6. If you want a different front cable hanger, you can buy one separately 
 for it .  I assume he meant the would install it in place of the stock one. 


   And he welcomes questions, which is awesome !  !  

 Oh yes ...  he also added this : * Grant is making noise about creating 
 a 64cm Clementine which would have a bigger headtube (higher handlebars) 
 than your Bombadil and the 59cm Clem's, so that might be worth waiting for/ 
 signing up for.  Not sure if it will be included with the first shipment*
 .


 So there just *may *be a 64cm Clementine !  Which I'd love as a top tube 
 on a Clem would be close to my max clearance wise .  I always wanted a 
 Betty or something like it in the past but it was always just not quite 
 tall/long enough for me , so this solves all that :)  Yeah ! 



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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-21 Thread Garth


 If I do wear a hat, mostly to keep the sun out of eyes, it's a Headsweats 
Cycle cap .  It's not cheapie generic cycle cap either, the bill is a 
little longer and flexible . The high quality fabric is great for warm 
weather, Coolmax .  I too find most headwear too warm , but these caps I 
can wear in any temp and I don't notice it at all.  In really hot 
conditions I keep it wet and the natural evaporative cooling is wonderful 
:)  Better than a bare head . 

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Re: [RBW] check those bottom brackets

2015-03-19 Thread Garth


 Tim, I used to be all concerned with such things as that .  When my Sugino 
AT BB needed replacing years ago it also had the heavy offset , and was 
124mm .  I bought a UN-72 127mm as it was about my only choice at the 
time.  It was perfect, as is . No spacers needed at all .  I didn't bother 
to measure it as it felt fine and the chainline was fine.  That's the key 
... it WAS fine !   If I was all in tuss about numbers I may have found 
some differences ,but so what ? It worked in real life.  You must remember 
manufacturer specs are given as a reference(mostly for themselves), not an 
absolute as to usability. As a mechanic or customer , there is the real 
world application of things that work regardless of whether specs say it 
may or not.   You having access to parts at a shop is huge plus !  

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[RBW] Re: Clem info for the Tall and Long

2015-03-18 Thread Garth

KJ, I'm 'bout 6'2 with a PBH of 'bout 36.5 . Yes, I was under the 
impression that the 59 would be longer than it was also .  The 63cm TT on 
the Bomba is about perfect for me with Albatross bars .
Speaking of peachy ... wouldn't a Peach colored bike be awesome ?!   That's 
a color I never see . A pastel Peach reminiscent of the beach , like a 
Peach creamsicle :) 



Liz,   Ask Keven if you're in person or email him.  He's always been very 
helpful over the years and I've asked about geometries and frame details 
him many times . 



Tom,   Yes, a gi-normous step through bike is an awesome idea indeed !  



Keith, The TT's listed are effective/virtual .  So the actual would be 
shorter .  I recall the Bomba originally listed both actual and effective , 
but now just list the effective. 
 I was kinda expecting it to be really long and tall in the front also . 
The 59 Clem isn't long enough for me as I was hoping it would be at least 
as long as the 63cm TT of the Bomba.  I was also hoping it would be taller 
in the head than the Bomba which it is not.  The 64 Clementine sounds like 
the winner though !  

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[RBW] Re: Which Riv to Rando?

2015-03-20 Thread Garth
How about preparing them both and when it's time to go you'll just know 
which to take .  

Life is not problem to be overcome , it is a Reality to be experienced !  
 




On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 11:32:53 AM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote:

 I'm getting ready for a brevet series starting late next month.  I'd been 
 planning on riding my Romulus which is set up with the original factory 
 wheels and the extraordinary Compass Stampede Pass tires and fenders.  My 
 thoght was to add the Mark's rack to the Romulus and be ready to go with 
 battery lighting, but I'm sitting here in my office staring at my mighty 
 Atlantis with its dyno, Luxos headlight with USB charging, brake lights, 
 and luggage and wondering whether it wouldn't be the better choice, 
 especially if I replaced the Marathon Supreme's with Barlow Pass tires for 
 the Brevets.  First world problems, I know. I'm confident the Atlantis is 
 the more comfortable bike of the two, but the Rom is faster. Most of the 
 folks here in Utah ride brevets on racing style bikes, usually without 
 fenders, and I'm apprehensive about not being able to keep up with anyone 
 and having to ride alone. Thoughts on the Atlantis with the Barlow Pass 
 would be appreciated.   

 DG


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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-12 Thread Garth

The seatpost selection is very limited it seems , but of course it does 
come with one .  Likely a basic Kalloy Laprade or one of low end UNO models 
or similar generic post from Taiwan. 

Thomson ?  I checked all I could find and it seems the only one is a black 
zero setback.  Not available in silver or setback , albeit their setback is 
a mere 15mm .

The shim sounds alright, but looks goofy the way it cannot set flush with 
the seat lug , from the photo .  

All in all, if the stock post is not acceptable the shim is your only 
choice . That has it's own issue though, the seam in the shim, does it seal 
when it's in the frame ?  If not, for those who ride in the rain and/or 
sweat alot, it will let water in !  

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[RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

2015-03-11 Thread Garth

Vittoria Voyager Hypers in 35,38 or 40 official, about 33,35 and 38 actual .

Get them from planetx.co.uk ,search for vittoria+hyper  (both same tyre) 

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

2015-03-11 Thread Garth

  Yes , that's the photo I recall Jim :)It was always my understanding 
of the Bombadil frames was only the second TT was straight gauge , the rest 
were butted .  



On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 1:16:31 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:



 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 10:04:45 AM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:


 Interesting!  So the Bomba, Hunq, and Atlantis are all three straight 8 
 OX Plat in the main triangle   makes sense, but, there it is..

 -L


 I don't know about the Bomba production run, but the prototypes were not 
 straight gauge. The prototypes had 1.2/0.9 main down and seat tubes.
 http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr39_pg45.jpg

 jim m
 wc ca 


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[RBW] Re: Street Clothes, Spandex or Other Bike Specific Clothing

2015-03-06 Thread Garth
  
Wear whatever you want , like you've been doing !   

As for being necessary .ahahaahahahah. what clothing is truly 
necessary ?   When it comes down to it, it's about aesthetics , even when 
declared to be for practicality . That's an aesthetic too ;-) It's 
all alright , all the time . 



On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:34:17 AM UTC-5, Steve Cole wrote:

 I was just reading an issue of Adventure Cycling and noticed that nearly 
 all riders pictured were wearing spandex shorts and a typical racing bike 
 shirt.  Grant always argues bike-specific clothing is unnecessary.  I'm 
 wondering what others have adopted as their cycling outfits.  Around town, 
 commuting and on short hauls I wear baggy bike-specific shorts most often 
 with a liner and a regular, often cotton shirt.  For longer rides out of 
 town, I'll don spandex shorts.  I have fairly large thighs and the spandex 
 really helps avoid the chaffing.  


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[RBW] Re: Custom Riv on the Blug

2015-03-07 Thread Garth
It's my understanding that when the bike is simply labeled as a Rivendell 
it's a custom .   So while it may have some visual and/or unseen qualities 
similar to production models, it is it's own unique very custom make ! 

LoL .. shoulda used a better cable hanger for the front !   

In this case for some-one in India !  



On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 10:47:10 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Custom Bombadil? Appaloosa, maybe? Love the colors..this may be the most 
 beautiful Rivendell I've ever seen.

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/


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[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Garth
#4 a keeper for sure Rene.  The heart loves what the heart loves , and 
thankfully there is no existence of logic' in love ;-)

Is there anything greater than being footloose and fancy free ?





On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-5, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of 
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional 
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious 
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating 
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. 

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within 
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list 
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking 
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel 
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I 
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating 
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with 
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride 
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. 
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv 
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I 
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want 
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present 
 configurations on my Flickr site: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the 
 Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that 
 would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 
 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the 
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork 
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom 
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just 
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders 
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it 
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I 
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of 
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it 
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel 
 like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both 
 the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still 
 have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. 

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to 
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree 
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René 


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[RBW] Re: Tips for using the Minoura Repair Stand?

2015-03-12 Thread Garth

I too have always attached the clamp to the frame for decades without any 
ill effects .   Just use some sense, like don't over clamp with force, and 
if you're concerned with double butted tubes being too thin in the middle, 
clamp near the lugs instead.   A Hunqa frame has no concern about that . 


Parallel TT's make for a great place to clamp btw, as well as a great 
carrying handle ;) 

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[RBW] Re: Clementine rear brake cabling -- ideas?

2015-03-24 Thread Garth

 A ,  a V-brake cable noodle ! There are many different ones with 
various fixed angles, or even some that are flexible .  Here is what 
Jagwire makes, for example : 
http://jagwire.com/products/v/Linear-Pull_Noodles_Boots.

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

2015-03-25 Thread Garth
What's the direct link ?   Trying to find things on flickr is sometimes 
like , errr  facebook . lol ;) 



On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 8:17:27 PM UTC-4, Kellie wrote:

 I added a group for Rivendell Cheviot owners to add photos of their bikes. 
 I invite all to contribute.


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[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

2015-03-25 Thread Garth
Thank you both !


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[RBW] Re: Jan Heine: A Randonneur’s Long Rides and Strong Words | The Bicycle Story

2015-03-25 Thread Garth


   In an apparent World of Relativity , all choices made, regardless and 
absolutely, are relatively meaningless ;)  



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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-28 Thread Garth
Yes I have , but like everyone else , has anyone tested 2 identical bikes , 
one with a threaded construction of 1 , and the other threadless of 1-1/8 
?   Maybe a few frame builders have, but not the public.  A direct 
comparison like this would be truest . 

That said though, I recognize it can be easier to adjust for some . however 
I have no problem with threaded ones as I grew up with them. Also, how 
often are they overhauled, once a year ? 
I have an American Classic Trilock catridge bearing headset on one bike, 
which was a brilliant idea, requiring only one 2.5mm allen wrench .  The 
fork can be taken off without the bearings coming out .   Now long defunct 
, sadly .  But there is a brilliant implementation of a threaded design 
independent of 32mm wrenches .  Surely there could have been others.


As far as flex, I've never noted it once it in my life of riding , even 
back in the day racing with long Cinelli XA stems and bars and a strapping 
200+ pounds , lol.  Even if there was , did it make any difference in any 
way as far as the quality of the ride and moment ?  Nope  !  I guarantee 
not even a pro racer would say man, it was that stiff bike that propelled 
my to victory . 

Adjustments and versatility/flexibility is where threaded/quills shine 
though. The threadless system , while touting it's improvements in the end 
also becomes more limiting , just like the threaded in it's own way.  We 
call this progress !  It's this way with all human inventions though . 

But all this is relative to the perceiver , and so it is with opinions ;) 

And a very merry Good nite !




On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 4:05:03 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:

 Have you ridden threadless? It flexes much less than threaded, which some 
 will find reassuring, especially on rough terrain rides. To the home 
 mechanic it offers the advantage of being simpler to install and is less 
 finicky to adjust.

 jim m
 wc ca

 On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:23:34 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 What is the benefit of threadless to the consumer/rider, Garth? I do not 
 see it.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-28 Thread Garth
It's good for those wanting the absolute lightest and stiffest setups , 
mostly racers and such enthusiasts. Any ride/rider/organization etc. that 
is concerned with time , is racing ;)  
Except when it's for dinner I suppose and you're mouth is watering .  
Exemption there . LoL ! 

It's more convenient if the bike needs frequent disassembly for travel, far 
from the masses though. 

Oh yes, I suspect it is really the best though for the manufacturers .  
Less labor cost , less stems to make and stock .  

For the rest of us, yes quills are just fine .  I even use a quill 
threadless adapter on one bike myself.  As much as I prefer threaded 
setups, I've never really like the 7 style -17 degree stems .  I wish 
they made silver zero degree quills in long tall lengths , but the only one 
is Profile black welded one.  So I use a VO/Genetic Quill adapter with the 
least offensive threaded stem I could find(Koski) , and they don't eve make 
it anymore as I guess it was deemed too heavy or what I don't know. Sure 
the setup looks a little odd from the side, but I don't look at my bikes 
except from above while riding and from there it looks completely normal 
, just wider. 


Here is an article about the two types, slanted toward threadless. 
http://www.adventurecycling.org/default/assets/resources/headsets.pdf



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 What is the benefit of threadless to the consumer/rider, Garth? I do not 
 see it.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-28 Thread Garth
You know Jeremy , it's all about preference :)   Threadless was touted as 
being superior from it's inception , but to who and with what parameters 
in mind must always be considered.There is definitely a place for both 
, as both have their pro and con which is an endless discussion not worthy 
of time here .  It's kinda like the FW/Cassette thing,  another system does 
not make the other obsolete or any less than it is . 



On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 1:18:47 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:

 The vast majority of production bikes come with pre-cut steerers, and how 
 much they are cut depends on the manufacturer.  Generally it's rare to have 
 more than 40mm of adjustment above the headset upper.  In fact, the fork is 
 usually fully installed, and all we do at the shop is maybe install the 
 stem and assure proper headset adjustment.  I usually like to move the stem 
 to its highest possible setting (top of the spacer stack, flipped for 
 rise).  

 The QBP brands (Salsa and Surly) are a notable exception, with every size 
 coming with a fork that has yet to be installed, with the steerer uncut and 
 without the star nut not pressed in.  When I was service manager at a shop, 
 I mandated that we leave the steerers uncut on these bikes.  However, that 
 does make things difficult with a lot of customers who don't understand how 
 threadless forks work or why anyone would want to run their bars that high. 
  Their aesthetic first impressions (all too often a critical part of bike 
 buying) are totally thrown off by the spacer stack, and if they test ride 
 the bike with a normal stem height they're unnerved by the extra spacer 
 stack above the stem threatening to poke them in the solar plexus. So, 
 there are downsides for the retailer who leaves them uncut. 

 Yes, Rivendell avoids all this with 1 threaded headsets and quill stems 
 but from a mechanical perspective, threadless is really superior.  With 
 steel steerer tubes there is no practical limit to how high you can run the 
 bars above the headset.  In fact, a high bar setup feels much more solid 
 with a threadless stem than with a quill stem, and headset adjustment is 
 far easier.  Of course, as James and others have pointed out, achieving 
 Riv-esque bar height with a threadless setup requires slightly more 
 deliberate choices on the part of the bike designer and bike assembler.  

 With carbon steerers becoming de rigeur on high-end bikes, there is much 
 more of a practical limit on how high you want to run a stem.  I'm sure 
 different manufacturers would say different things but I would never want 
 to run a carbon fork with more that about 40 or 50mm of spacers max.   



 On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 9:38:07 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless 
 floor model road bikes when assembling? 

 Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? 
 Do you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models? 

 My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than 
 usual. Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill 
 stems. 



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[RBW] Re: Klunking!

2015-04-01 Thread Garth
All I know is I'm sure glad it's not the 70's anymore !  Ahahahaahahah !!! 

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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-28 Thread Garth
Many if not most complete bikes sold in shops come already cut with the 
stem installed , at least it was when I worked in the biz putting them 
together from the box.  Some brands, like a Surly of course, do not.  But 
I'm talking your mainstream bike shops here , like those that sell the 
Trek, Bianchi and such .  

   It really depends on not only the shop , but where the bike is. Is it on 
the floor already complete ? Too late obviously.  If yet unassembled then 
of course you hopefully have some say, if not leave the store .  

   I noticed on Surly's website though, that* they use the same steering 
tube length on ALL their frame sizes* !   So while a small frame will have 
a huge option for cutting, the tallest frames may have zero to little if 
you want high-er bars.  It seems to me to be a step backwards, if you're 
going to do business that way . 

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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

2015-03-28 Thread Garth

You can ride any tire you want  , it's just a say 28mm tire won't be so 
comfy ;) .   Just because a frame can take wide tires and most appear to 
ride them means nothing .  It's your bike, your ride , your life , your joy 
:)

   That said, on my Bombadil I ride Vittoria Voyager Hypers in the 38/40mm 
width, about 39 actual on Mavic A719's.  These are a light, supple sweet 
riding and zippy tire.  They're like super size supple road tires .  Many 
here like their Compass tires also FWIW, I've not ridden them nor likely 
will try them any time soon .  I've grown rather fond of black sidewalls 
with reflector strips !  

  If you're not familiar with the Bombadil , it's the tank before the Hunqa 
tank came out . ...  . lol . 

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[RBW] Re: Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

2015-03-28 Thread Garth
I ride mostly all on road too.  These tires would be suitable for dry non 
technical dirt trails of course also. I run them between 40-50 psi . 

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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-28 Thread Garth
Tom and James,  I remember I even called Surly to confirm it was not a typo 
as it did not make any sense , they said to just use a higher angle stem or 
an additional riser .   Well, I thought, that's nobody I want to do 
business with .  It kinda negates some of the benefit of the threadless 
concept . 

I reminds me how the mainstream bike biz has not changed it's ideas of fit, 
it reminds me of the 70's , lol. 

Come to think of , has anyone seen a large production bike(other than Riv) 
of any kind with a tall steering tube with lots of spacers or really high 
front end  ?   I've looked through endless google photos and have not found 
one !  


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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

2015-03-28 Thread Garth
If there is Doug, it's gotta be pretty high !  Look at Bike Friday type of 
bike for example , the bars are way higher than on any road bike !   Tiny 
frame, huuuge steerer !  




On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 12:26:37 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:

 Is there a limit to how high the bars can be above the upper headset 
 bearing?  The further they are above the bearing the greater the forces on 
 the bearing from handlebar leverage.  

 dougP



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[RBW] Re: New flat solution

2015-04-01 Thread Garth

Ahahahaahahahahahahaha !   !  

A great great to usher in April to us foolz ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT:Is your bippy frozen?

2015-03-02 Thread Garth

  Yes, if you're in Alaska they are !   As all that cold air goes down tho 
the lower 48, the temps can rise dramatically in Alaska :-)   When it's sub 
zero cold in Minnesota, it's above freezing in Alaska .



On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 4:17:35 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 blue northers are cycling heaven???  yeah, if you're headed in a south or 
 southeasterly direction ;)




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[RBW] Re: OT:Is your bippy frozen?

2015-03-02 Thread Garth

It's always Summer !  It's the One and only Season .

There is Summer, Summer fall-ing asleep, Summer sleeping and Summer 
spring-ing awake ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

2015-03-04 Thread Garth

Define fit  lol !As each has their own distinct idea of it , and 
rightly so .I ride a 60cm. Bombadil and find it just barely tall enough 
in the front end and long enough for me(w/130mm stem) , and I'm only 6'2 
with average proportions.  

Specs have been absent for the Clem , as if they didn't matter or something 
 I don't know their thought process . Frame size, the height of the 
seat tube, is not all that important to me.  How long the TT is and how 
tall the front end to the top of the headset, IS !  So just telling us a 59 
will fit up to 6'4 is ironically, akin to the same sales pitch many bike 
shops have been using for decades.  One size just doesn't fit all 
preferences(nor can it !), and that is not a knock at anyone , it's just 
the truth of it ;-) . 

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[RBW] Re: 7 the new 11

2015-02-26 Thread Garth

  Forgive me if I am mistaken, but have not single cogs and spacers(Shimano 
and Miche) pretty much always been available since cassettes have been 
around ?   I know since at least the 90's this has been so.  This, on top 
of dismantling pre-configured cassettes and using those cogs and spacers , 
the ones that had/have rivets.  Yes, I'm also aware that some used non 
modifiable spiders and all that .  

   I myself have used the same Sachs freewheels since the 90's. Either a 7 
speed 13-32 or 6 13-28, all using the 13,15,17,20,24,28-32 spread.  36t and 
48t rings pretty much keeps me covered, I have a 24t but have rarely used 
it, and in those places I may as have been walking ;)   

   So I guess 7 is still the same 'ol 7 here  ;-)   7 being Heaven 

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot vs Betty Foy vs Clementine Step Over Height

2015-03-24 Thread Garth
I realize the Chev above does look a bit lower, but it's also a smaller 
frame size than the Betty. A larger Chev photo appears the same as the 
Betty pictured. 



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[RBW] Re: Cheviot vs Betty Foy vs Clementine Step Over Height

2015-03-24 Thread Garth


http://cdn3.volusion.com/ctxtv.wmppt/v/vspfiles/photos/pre3-4.jpg

http://cdn3.volusion.com/ctxtv.wmppt/v/vspfiles/photos/f-cheviot-4.jpg

http://cdn3.volusion.com/ctxtv.wmppt/v/vspfiles/photos/staff15-2.jpg


I looked at all 3 from a Riv side shot , the ones they do against a wall 
with convenient horizontal lines, and it appears the Cheviot and Betty are 
the same . The Clementine while not appearing to being any lower , by 
virtue of the swooped tube it may offer easier entry for your feet to clear 
it, make sense ?   Also notice how much more forward the curve of the top 
tube on the Clementine is than the others .  

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