Re: Space
Here is another thought, could someone out there right a little app that would parse this data and get it into excel or FileMaker from the actual log file. Maybe it would go good with an Apple script that would do this once a night. FileMaker can handle applescript fairly well. I would think this would be fairly easy since the data from the log file is in the same format every time. The parser could look for a certain phrase then strip the data following (user name and amount of data, date whatever) Then an applescript could import that file into a FileMaker database that you could sort according to whatever criteria you want. It would be an extra app that would have to be on the machine but it sure would be handy. Anyone have the expertise to build something like this?? I could handle the applescript and the FMP database (as are a lot of you probably) but I'm not good at writing code. I'd be glad to team up with someone. Tim matt barkdull wrote: Ok, here's a feature request that I've been looking around in Retrospect... An easy way to find out how much was backed up off of a certain client without having to add up all the backup numbers in the log. Meaning, a week ago I started a new backup. It did a full backup over the weekend and then incrementals every night. After wading through the log, I was able to add up the first backup of one client along with the 5 incrementals and get the total backed up from that client. I'd like to see charting and such. Something that will make graphs would be nice, but if it just pumped out raw numbers that I could move into Excel that would be good too. What would I like to see? A raw format of: For Each machine: machine name MB Backed up over the course of several nights. (Full backup + Incrementals) Number of backups (how many incrementals actually took place). Performance Total time taken (Full + incrementals) It would look something like this and could be imported into Excel sebulba2580 5 157 MB/Min 00:16:43 anakin 3260 5 107 MB/Min 00:30:46 See, in reports, as far as I can see, it only tells you how much the last backup backed up. So that would be the last incremental only. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Space
I have FileMaker 5 developer, I think I can make a runtime version that could be used without actually having the FileMaker app. I haven't done that before so let me look at the package and see what the limitations are. Tim matt barkdull wrote: I'll look for that, I just happened to get FMP 5 the other day. What about someone who does not have FMP though? Unless I'm missing something, you can do this using the Retrospect Event Handler and the FMP template that is included with Retrospect. The event handler passes most of the relevant raw data to the the FMP database, and then you can have the database massage the data into whatever fashion you want. The only issue I've run into appears to be a discrepancy between the MB/s reported in the log and the MB/s calculated from the database data. Since I just use the database to rack growth trends, it's never been a big enough issue for me to reconcile (could just be that I can't 2 + 2 properly :) ). -- Michael Gainessnail mail: Learning Technology Center Computer System Administrator Box 45, GPC Nashville, TN 37203 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (615) 322-2480 Machiavelli: "... there is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things." -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Backup server question
I don't know if this will work for you but it did for me. I also have a small number of laptops in my backup routine (12 PowerBook G3's) So I set up a separate script that attempts a backup at lunch everyday. They can defer if they are working through lunch. I only back up their preferences folder, Documents and the Desktop folder so it usually goes pretty fast. Even if I don't get every laptop everyday at least I get them a couple of times a week. The laptops are also on the regular nightly backups so if the do leave their laptops in the building, they will get backed up then. I'm not too worried about having them backed up twice, better to have too much backup than not enough. Tim matt barkdull wrote: Essentially, here's what you want to do: 1. Create a backup server script (AutomateScriptsNewBackup Server) that backs up notebooks all the time (the default). 2. Create another backup server script that backs up desktops between 8PM and 8AM only. 3. Create a third script that's a regular script that backs up the servers at your desired start time. What will happen: Notebooks will be backed up during the day, as they appear on the network. Desktops will only be backed up at night. Servers will be backed up when scheduled (overriding the backup server scripts). When the servers are done, the backup server scripts will start again. I'll add to this by saying that your laptop users will have the choice of deferring the backups as they come up as well. Plus, if that script is 24 hours, they could choose to have it back up at night and leave the laptop connected. I use 2 scripts. One for all desktops and servers. Backs those up every night between 7pm and 6am and from Friday at 7pm until 6am Monday it does the full backup. The laptop script uses the same backup set and backs up the laptops as they come available or when they schedule to do the backup. (setting in the clients). I've got several laptop users that will force a backup before they leave each night or before they go on a trip. It works well. I used to have two different backup sets, but I also had a DAT tape changer. I now use a single DLT drive which has twice the capacity of the Changer and my number of clients were cut to about 1/4th of what they were. The data being backed up is about the same size though. Strangely enough... Backed up about 30 GB with the changer and about 70 machines. Now, I have 20 machines and backup about 35 GB. Matt -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: How to keep Backup sets/tapes specific to a magazine?
Title: Re: How to keep Backup sets/tapes specific to a magazine? I thought if you named a tape that Retrospect would NOT use it. ??? Is that not true? When Retrospect is waiting for a tape, the message on the screen says waiting for a blank tape named script name or empty. (or something similar) I didn't think a script would grab it if the tape was named. Tim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:32:52 + To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to keep Backup sets/tapes specific to a magazine? David, It's not pretty, but here's what we do: We have a whole bunch of magazines and we assign a different backup set to each magazine (obviously). But we only assign one backup set at a time to the single script. Each week on Monday morning, it is someone's task to switch the magazine and manually edit the script to use the next backup set for the new magazine - at any given moment the backup script has only one backup set assigned to it. Hope that makes sense. I *thought* I remember someone from Dantz saying awhile ago that in a future version you'll be able to manually assign an empty tape to a storage set. If you name an empty tape now, Retrospect still sees it as blank and will use it however it sees fit. Granted, that's a feature, not a bug. But it would also be a good feature to override that feature. :-) Mark Maytum Pompanoosuc Mills Corporation Kraut, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/12/01 09:38 PM Please respond to retro-talk To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: How to keep Backup sets/tapes specific to a magazine? I have (2) backup sets and scripts ( Backup Set A and Backup Set B and Script A and Script B). Each Backup set has (6) tapes in a separate magazine ( Magazine A and Magazine B ) which I use in my Surestore DLT 818 Autoloader. I do not want Backup Set A tapes in magazine A to ever mix with the tapes in Backup Set B magazine B. However, If I forget to remove the magazine on the day the script switches from A to B and there is an empty tape on the inserted magazine, Retrospect will create a new tape labeled with the other backup set and start backing up to tape causing a mix of backup set A and B? Is there anyway to stop this while still allowing Retrospect to use an available tape if it runs out of room? Thanks! David
Re: Retrospect scripts and OS9
sorry to be ambiguous with this. I was referring to the Applescript, specifically the script that comes with the client to reset the prefs. (it is called Client Preferences Cleaner) I am far from an Applescript expert but I can't get the same script to run on an OS9 machine and an OS8.6 machine. Can that be done or will I need two different scripts? Tim "Chad S. Chelius" wrote: Tim, I'm not sure if I understand your question. Are you talking about a Retrospect script or an Applescript? Also what do you mean by clean up? Please explain. Chad Chelius I had a script modified to clean up the Retrospect Control Panel prefs on the client machines. I upgraded one of my users to an iMac running OS9 and tried to run the script and it will not run under OS9. how can I edit the script to run in OS9? Tim -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Retrospect scripts and OS9
I had a script modified to clean up the Retrospect Control Panel prefs on the client machines. I upgraded one of my users to an iMac running OS9 and tried to run the script and it will not run under OS9. how can I edit the script to run in OS9? Tim -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Password Protection
Retrospect also allows you to password protect an archive. When you create a new backup set, there is a button that says secure. I just use the password only so I don't know what the other two choices offer. (the second choice sounds like basic encryption and the third choice sounds like even better encryption but slower. I keep my tapes in a secure area so I feel comfortable just using the password protection. If you really wanted to be picky, you could use a combination of these ideas and have to enter a password several times. I would test this idea before you implement it though. Who know what multiple encryption would do. Jim Cowing wrote: Or you could just compress the files into a stuffit archive with password protection, then back them up. I am surprised Powerpoint doesn't have built in password protection the way Excel does. Jim Cowing Systems Engineer Target Corporation From: Don Foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to archive files (mostly powerpoint) from the server to a cd. The data contained is highly confidential. I was wondering if Retrospect is capable of password protecting files during an archive process. What I am hoping to find is that once the files are archived, to open the files, you must know the password. If Retrospect does not have these capabilities, is there any other programs available to do this? Setup: Blue and White G3, Retrospect 4.2, lots of RAM, up to date firmware. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Mac OS 9 has encryption capabilities, and while the experts debate just how good it is, you might still want to try it. You could encrypt the files before you archive them and while users would be able to restore the files, they would still have to encrypt them to view them. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Mac Client Uptdate
side note, from what I understand, your Mac backups will continue to run on the old client. That won't you won't miss any backups if computers have not been restarted. Ben Mihailescu wrote: Does this happens automatically, or can I have an option to restart manually like the Win boxes? Thanks, Ben Irena Solomon wrote: Hi Ben, Yes, Mac clients must be restarted for the updated client software to load and run. Irena Solomon Dantz Development Corporation 925.253.3050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: McGill University Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:43:39 -0400 To: Retrospect List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mac Client Uptdate Hi all, If I embark on updating all the Mac clients over the network, do the Mac clients need to be restarted, like the Windoz ones? Ben -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- Ben Mihailescu System Administrator Electrical and Computer Engineering, McGill University 514.398.7467 -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: running Retrospect from a CD
I am using version 4.2 but I'll upgrade to 4.3 and try it again. Tim Craig Isaacs wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to run Retrospect from a CD? ... I'll be willing to try whatever you can send along. Time to upgrade. Looks like you're using an old version. Craig -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: running Retrospect from a CD
So we tried it with version 4.3 and it still does not work. Actually, it will work if we don't enter the serial number but then we have to enter it each time we run Retrospect. (kind of a pain) What did you do to get it running on the CD? I can't even get the app to launch. let me know, Tim Nick Scalise wrote: I do it using Retro 4.3 on a bootable CD. I back up to a local tape drive, but I do have AppleTalk on on the CD so backing up to a volume should work also. Tim David wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to run Retrospect from a CD? What I mean by this is I want to boot the Mac from a CD, backup the hard drive to a remote volume (server) and then format the drive. when I try to launch Retrospect, it has problems running from a locked volume. I have not tried the express version but I'm willing to get that if it will work. This is becoming more important to me as SCSI goes away. I used to do this by booting from a SCSI hard drive. I'm trying to put off buying a firewire or USB drive for this purpose but it may come to that. I'll be willing to try whatever you can send along. -- Nick Scalise [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
running Retrospect from a CD
Does anyone know if there is a way to run Retrospect from a CD? What I mean by this is I want to boot the Mac from a CD, backup the hard drive to a remote volume (server) and then format the drive. when I try to launch Retrospect, it has problems running from a locked volume. I have not tried the express version but I'm willing to get that if it will work. This is becoming more important to me as SCSI goes away. I used to do this by booting from a SCSI hard drive. I'm trying to put off buying a firewire or USB drive for this purpose but it may come to that. I'll be willing to try whatever you can send along. Tim -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
running Retrospect from a CD
Does anyone know if there is a way to run Retrospect from a CD? What I mean by this is I want to boot the Mac from a CD, backup the hard drive to a remote volume (server) and then format the drive. when I try to launch Retrospect, it has problems running from a locked volume. I have not tried the express version but I'm willing to get that if it will work. This is becoming more important to me as SCSI goes away. I used to do this by booting from a SCSI hard drive. I'm trying to put off buying a firewire or USB drive for this purpose but it may come to that. I'll be willing to try whatever you can send along. Tim -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: retrospect and filemaker
I agree with John, have FileMaker do database copies. Then when you back up you'll get two copies of each database. I go one step further. I have FileMaker make a copy mid day, (to duplicate that mornings work) then at 6:30pm (after everyone is done working but before backups happen) Then Retrospect backs up the machine with all 3 copies of each database. We've got too much riding in our FMPro databases to lose a whole days work. I figure better safe than sorry. Tim John Gee wrote: At 12:14 PM -0700 3/10/00, Todd Reed wrote: I figure that if I have 'verify' turned on, and the log doesn't indicate a problem that the database files are getting backed up okay. Is this the experience of the list, or should I be practicing preventive paranoia? FileMaker Server keeps a lot of data in a RAM cache. Even if the database is backed up by Retrospect without errors, I am not sure that guarantees that the file will be in a known good state. I recommend preventive paranoia, have FileMaker perform database copies using its internal scheduling, and use Retrospect to backup the copies. -- John Gee[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dunedin, New ZealandProgrammers live in interesting times... -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: computer synchronizing
This may be out of left field, but have you checked that machine for a macro virus? Macro viruses can sometimes affect Word files on a machine without having to open them which would cause them to be modified every day. Jim Coefield wrote: Speaking of duplicating from PC's to Macs (asked this question once months ago, but didn't get any response, so I thought I'd try again), I have a 7,000 document directory on a PC (NT 4.0, service pack 3) that I duplicate to a Mac web server (BW G3 running 9.0.4) using Personal Web sharing to serve out the docs. I have a nightly duplicate script, set to "replace all contents" set to do the chore. For some reason, that I have yet to figure out, 1339 files get re-duplicated every night. I haven't found any correlation between the files (mostly Microsoft Word docs) that would give me a clue as to why it is these docs. Any thoughts on why this is happening would be greatly appreciated, as it adds on an extra 15 minutes of network/Retrospect overhead that I'd like to avoid. Using Retro 4.3 on the same Mac G3. Thanks, Jim Coefield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: computer synchronizing From: "Craig Isaacs" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 23:24:28 -0700 [snip] In addition, you can duplicate between PCs and Macs. HTH, Craig -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: Alternate Back Up Destination
I'm not an expert in Retrospect either but I might have a couple of tips. You can tell Retrospect to back up to a file instead of a device. When you create a new storage set, you will see a choice called Storage type. Select Macintosh File and you can save that file wherever you want. You can choose to compress the file under the options button on the immediate backup window. There were some really good discussions not to long ago about different types of backup devices. That may be good to read if you are considering purchasing something. I'll try to find the article and send it to you. I'm pretty sure I saved it. Tim Sara M wrote: I am very new to the Retrospect backup program, but looking for an alternate back up destination. Currently we are running a G4/400, OS 9.0.4, ASIP 6.3.1, Retrospect 4.2. We have approximately 250 GB of hard drive storage space that needs to be backed up on a regular basis. My goal is to do a complete backup monthly, with normal backups nightly. Currently we have only one DAT drive. As you can imagine, to do a full backup is very time consuming. What I am wondering: Can Retrospect back up to another server on the network such as a Quantum Snap Server? Will the data be compressed? I looked into the internet storage, but is too costly on a monthly basis. Is my only option an auto loading tape drive? Please excuse my ignorance. I find Retrospect a great program, and do not seem to be having problems with the program, I just need to figure out a timely manner to do a complete back up of our data. Thanks in advance * Sara McGill [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
