Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On 11/02/2013 12:50 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 11/02/2013 03:55 AM, david wrote: > >> Can't help myself, either: > > You, sir, are an even bigger smartass than I am. Nicely done. Used to love Rube Goldberg contraptions, guess the old contraption brain is still around. ;-) I used to run my Hammond organ output through a wah-wah pedal, then into an active volume control pedal .. come to think of it, that gave me a very distorted sound, sounded much like Hendrix ... I have an old recording of a 20-minute solo using that setup (on old audio cassette), I should get the tape spliced and try digitizing it while tape decks are still available to play them ... -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On 11/02/2013 11:02 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 11/02/2013 12:39 PM, Abrolag wrote: > >> Not resistors, you need two diodes, and with no preamp they'll have to be >> germanium ones (if you can find any). > > I have some germanium diodes, oddly enough. They're out of one of those > 15-million-and-1 electronic projects kits. Or here's a complete kit: http://picclick.com/Fuzz-Box-Kit-DIY-build-your-own-pedal-190350090667.html -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On 11/02/2013 11:02 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 11/02/2013 12:39 PM, Abrolag wrote: > >> Not resistors, you need two diodes, and with no preamp they'll have to be >> germanium ones (if you can find any). > > I have some germanium diodes, oddly enough. They're out of one of those > 15-million-and-1 electronic projects kits. OK, this is fancier than what we used to build (I could have sworn we used resistors, one of which was a potentiometer to adjust the amount of fuzz added) but looks servicable: http://culturalflow.com/netlabels/electronic-musik/1971-fuzzbox-circuit-project-full-instructions-diy Note that it works by overamplifying the signal. The ones I recall building worked by adding the noise of battery current to the otherwise normal audio signal. But maybe I'm recollecting things wrong. That was a long time ago. Looks like it has step-by-step instructions Michael could use. ;-) -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On 11/02/2013 12:39 PM, Abrolag wrote: > Not resistors, you need two diodes, and with no preamp they'll have to be > germanium ones (if you can find any). I have some germanium diodes, oddly enough. They're out of one of those 15-million-and-1 electronic projects kits. I never got along with electronics very well. Read the schematic, build the circuit, it doesn't work at all like it's supposed to. OK, this is educational. Not. I have utterly zero clue why not. Check the schematic, test again, same result. Buy a book called "Basic Introduction to Electronics" or something to that effect, and it starts off with 700 pages about covalent bonds and electron energy levels and crap. Ookay, but how do you put the thingies together to do stuff? Oh, you just have to make the electron jump three levels until it escapes, and then that's how your calculator works. ??? I'll leave electronics to you hard science maths/chemistry/physics guys. You know, the guys who have real jobs. Ha. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 21:55:08 -1000 david wrote: > Or you could make a do-it-yourself fuzz box using a 9v battery and a > couple of resistors ... Not resistors, you need two diodes, and with no preamp they'll have to be germanium ones (if you can find any). -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
> I'll look into it, it sounds interesting. Is it me or is the > guitar sound a more difficult one to synthesize? I think it's probably an instrument we hear really often, and we hear the wide range of expressiveness. You can vary the attack a lot, apply differing degrees of muting, bend strings, vary the tone color by playing the same pitch on different strings, play various kinds of harmonics, and that's not even considering whether the guitar has a whammy bar/tremolo. You could fake all that, but you'd have to have a detailed sample library and enough familiarity with the instrument and ability to think like a guitarist to stitch all the pieces together convincingly. The same can be said of almost everything, really. When you get down to it, only the most extremely simple instruments ever sound completely convincing. Anyway, I think fake guitars are more plausible than fake brass instruments. Recordings of me playing the trumpet very badly still sound better than the best fake, to my ears. I did hear one extremely convincing computer-generated trumpet performance. To achieve it, they built a robot with artificial lips that could produce sound using a real trumpet. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On 11/02/2013 03:55 AM, david wrote: > Can't help myself, either: You, sir, are an even bigger smartass than I am. Nicely done. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On 11/01/2013 02:32 AM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: >> BTW, can anyone suggest a half-decent distorted guitar sound? > > Plug a guitar into an effects box and plug the effects box into your > computer? > > (I couldn't help myself.) Can't help myself, either: Plug a guitar into a cheap battery powered amp. Record the amp sound on an old cheap tape recorder. Hook that battered old cheap microphone you've had hanging around in the closet for decades into your main audio recording system. Play the tape recording through the cheap battery powered amp. Record that output using the old mic. I'm pretty sure that will give you a distorted guitar sound. For more distortion, start with a cheap electric guitar, or add another cheap tape recorder and increase the number of re-recordings done through the cheap amp ... Or you could make a do-it-yourself fuzz box using a 9v battery and a couple of resistors ... -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
> -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:22:25 + > From: j...@it-he.org > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume > Feed a clavinet through a distortion pedal and choose the chords > carefully. I've made a patch for my Triton which does this using > its internal effects. > > It won't sound exactly like a guitar, but it sounds better than > anything else I've tried. > IIRC Tony Banks did this on the intro of 'Return of the Giant > Hogweed', and I'm pretty sure that the 'March of the Gladiators' > solo on Cockney Rebel's 'Mr. Soft' was done in a similar manner. That's a little over my head & I have no midi hardware as such although I do plan to get me a controller keyboard. I'll look into it, it sounds interesting. Is it me or is the guitar sound a more difficult one to synthesize? > ------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 08:32:39 -0400 > From: "D. Michael McIntyre" > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume > To: rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <52739f67.4050...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > BTW, can anyone suggest a half-decent distorted guitar sound? > > Plug a guitar into an effects box and plug the effects box into your > computer? > > (I couldn't help myself.) Its ok, I do it all the time! I'm learning guitar and use RG to make backing tracks so it's a chicken & egg thing. Once I can play studio quality that will become a practical option but by then all my backing tracks will be perfection itself [plan-A] :-) -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
> BTW, can anyone suggest a half-decent distorted guitar sound? Plug a guitar into an effects box and plug the effects box into your computer? (I couldn't help myself.) -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
Quoting k...@trixtar.org: > BTW, can anyone suggest a half-decent distorted guitar sound? > Everything I try in GM or Zyn just SUCKS & I have no idea how to use > any other source! Feed a clavinet through a distortion pedal and choose the chords carefully. I've made a patch for my Triton which does this using its internal effects. It won't sound exactly like a guitar, but it sounds better than anything else I've tried. IIRC Tony Banks did this on the intro of 'Return of the Giant Hogweed', and I'm pretty sure that the 'March of the Gladiators' solo on Cockney Rebel's 'Mr. Soft' was done in a similar manner. -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Low writeout volume
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 03:19:35 + rosegarden-user-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 22:36:26 -0400 > From: Darcy Kahle > Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-user] recording audio > To: rosegarden-user > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am using Qsynth to play the MIDI output through Jack. So am I and I just connected to what you're complaining about, I've been working around it for about a year NO PROBLEM. I use jack_capture and the wav file it saves out is also very weak but if I raise the RG AudioMixer out volume jack starts flashing red lights all over the place. The problem might be jack_related, I have no clue, but after I load the file into Audacity and amplify it at will. You can do that too with any editor. HTH BTW, can anyone suggest a half-decent distorted guitar sound? Everything I try in GM or Zyn just SUCKS & I have no idea how to use any other source! -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
