Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
No... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aren't you glad you did? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (sigh) I walked right into that one... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But...the Candy Man...doesn't he mix it up with love, and make the world taste good? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
(sigh) I walked right into that one... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But...the Candy Man...doesn't he mix it up with love, and make the world taste good? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far.
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
LMNAO! Now I need to go find it to watch again! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL...My favorite line in that movie came from the only black character I remember being in it: Would you pleas pass the Ketchup? Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK of the Killer To-mA-TOes... ;D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences.
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
But...the Candy Man...doesn't he mix it up with love, and make the world taste good? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Oh I'll live...you can count on it... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK of the Killer To-mA-TOes... ;D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box
RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
LOL Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 3:52 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Oh I'll live...you can count on it... KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Keith, to summon Ol' Bub Hisself! The former and latter of that set will be airing Saturday, if memory serves... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There
RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
OH!!! CHOKE!!! I pulled something Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK of the Killer To-mA-TOes... ;D KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com com Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
I understand. Sometimes I see a preview, and I think to myself, that looks interesting. That might not be so bad. When Saturday comes and I turn to the movie, I might see a few minutes and it is usually so bad, I experience physical pain, so I change before I can get sucked into the vortex of the most dangerous night on Television. Inevitably a few days later, someone will be on the list ranting about how bad that same movie was and others agree. This always happens. The only exceptions I have seen are some of the B-movies the scifi has purchased and not produced. Martin wrote: But, Tracey...that would make *sense*. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*,
RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Reece, I'd gladly pick up your medical bills, but I'm on Medicare... Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OH!!! CHOKE!!! I pulled something Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK of the Killer To-mA-TOes... ;D KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com com Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
I hear you, Tracey. For me, it's usually nausea. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand. Sometimes I see a preview, and I think to myself, that looks interesting. That might not be so bad. When Saturday comes and I turn to the movie, I might see a few minutes and it is usually so bad, I experience physical pain, so I change before I can get sucked into the vortex of the most dangerous night on Television. Inevitably a few days later, someone will be on the list ranting about how bad that same movie was and others agree. This always happens. The only exceptions I have seen are some of the B-movies the scifi has purchased and not produced. Martin wrote: But, Tracey...that would make *sense*. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course.
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gggh! Fortunately I have the entire Tin Man miniseries i still need to watch... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith, to summon Ol' Bub Hisself! The former and latter of that set will be airing Saturday, if memory serves... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password
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welcome! what a movie! And there's always Plan 9 From Outer Space! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing AtACK of the Killer To-mA-TOes... ;D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called
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Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website
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Of late, I don't even need the sight impetus. Just got this week's TV guide, and this Saturday's offering, Beyond Loch Ness posits that Nessie's done some commuting, and has left a few kids around. Martin (off to see what the History Channel has in the way of competition for the time slot...) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
ooo! I feel the chills. Astromancer wrote: Or the Candy Man... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film.
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you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows
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I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
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you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me The Incredible Two Headed Transplant, Day of the Triffids, even Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you haven't lived 'til you've seen Chupacabra or one of the many bad-CGI films like Doom Troopers or Gargoyles -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being
RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
I think we have the basis for a new political party! The Contrarian Party... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com gmail.com This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
YES Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:35 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace. http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieand http://www.jamieandteddy.com teddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblair http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com godzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho. http://www.slusho.jp/. jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
I'm in. As long as I get to kiss babies. Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we have the basis for a new political party! The Contrarian Party... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com gmail.com This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like
RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
:) -- Original message -- From: Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think we have the basis for a new political party! The Contrarian Party... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com gmail.com This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all
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You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie
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LMNAO!!! Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's how we got Michael Jackson to join...ok, bad joke! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:47 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield I'm in. As long as I get to kiss babies. Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: I think we have the basis for a new political party! The Contrarian Party... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com gmail.com This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
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I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television. I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, but it will not happen. Now, repeat after me... I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television Astromancer wrote: Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho'
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thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across
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I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows
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This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the
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Giant monsters don't translate in the US. Maybe just Transformers and the upcoming Voltron movie but that's about it. If this movie is about a big ass monster then they are doing an excellent marketing job cause people would not see it if it is some Godzilla type flick. On Dec 28, 2007 9:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the
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good assessment. Since I was in the target demographic at the time, I remember being drawn to those movies. Please note: most were a disappointment and did not compare to my favs which were Hitchcock, Barbara Stanwick, Jimmy Stewart, Betty Davis, Glenn Ford, Ida Lupino, Sofia Loren, Henry Fonda, Charleton Heston, Joan Crawford, type of movies. Ironically, all those people were in the wrong demographic. So, we should be blaming John Hughes, huh? Mike Street wrote: This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn
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While Godzilla never scared me, I really liked them. Big confession, I liked the Godzilla with Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno. I knew it was bad, but I liked it. I think that was a hit. What about King Kong - specifically the remake, does that fit in this genre? How did it do? Mike Street wrote: Giant monsters don't translate in the US. Maybe just Transformers and the upcoming Voltron movie but that's about it. If this movie is about a big ass monster then they are doing an excellent marketing job cause people would not see it if it is some Godzilla type flick. On Dec 28, 2007 9:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers.
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that's my point. I liked movies and books about people my age, but a good scifi/fantasy film starring old folks would draw me just as much. And sometimes I like older characters because I like to see some of the experience, wisdom, or world-weariness they can bring to a role, while still being effective and vigorous. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] good assessment. Since I was in the target demographic at the time, I remember being drawn to those movies. Please note: most were a disappointment and did not compare to my favs which were Hitchcock, Barbara Stanwick, Jimmy Stewart, Betty Davis, Glenn Ford, Ida Lupino, Sofia Loren, Henry Fonda, Charleton Heston, Joan Crawford, type of movies. Ironically, all those people were in the wrong demographic. So, we should be blaming John Hughes, huh? Mike Street wrote: This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The
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and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting,
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i hear you, it's just odd. I spent some time looking at all kinds of action/fantasy/scifi movies and TV shows from when I was younger. Did a lot of Star Trek research of course. The vast majority of the men and women in many roles are in their late 20s to late '30s. There doesn't seem to be a youth-oriented push, other than if you start counting stuff like the Beach movies with Frankie and Annette. Even the Star Trek vixens of the week were often around 25 and older. I guess the rise of Generation X or Y or Zeta or whatever has got the suits doing the calculations, as you said. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember feeling the same when I was young. I did not need every character to be young like me, however, if truth be told I did relate more to the younger characters. But in our world people are different ages, so it felt like something of our world. It felt right. Not every part seems to fit someone in their mid-twenties. I think they did surveys and focus groups with the people who were the most frequent movie goers and uncovered that most of the related more closely to those closer to their age and perhaps were more motivated to go see a movie with characters closer to their age and as a result, 60% of all movies feature characters in their mid-twenties. Ugh... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows
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Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers,
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I wonder why the beach movies and movies like Splendor in The Grass, Rebel without a Cause, or Westside Story did not dramatically cause the shift? They were essentially doing the same thing. I think back then, more adults considered movie going as entertainment. I'm randomizing now. Anyone miss drive-ins? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear you, it's just odd. I spent some time looking at all kinds of action/fantasy/scifi movies and TV shows from when I was younger. Did a lot of Star Trek research of course. The vast majority of the men and women in many roles are in their late 20s to late '30s. There doesn't seem to be a youth-oriented push, other than if you start counting stuff like the Beach movies with Frankie and Annette. Even the Star Trek vixens of the week were often around 25 and older. I guess the rise of Generation X or Y or Zeta or whatever has got the suits doing the calculations, as you said. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember feeling the same when I was young. I did not need every character to be young like me, however, if truth be told I did relate more to the younger characters. But in our world people are different ages, so it felt like something of our world. It felt right. Not every part seems to fit someone in their mid-twenties. I think they did surveys and focus groups with the people who were the most frequent movie goers and uncovered that most of the related more closely to those closer to their age and perhaps were more motivated to go see a movie with characters closer to their age and as a result, 60% of all movies feature characters in their mid-twenties. Ugh... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from
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I know what you mean. I can't see Lindsay Lohan playing world weary (even though she probably is with the life she is leading) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's my point. I liked movies and books about people my age, but a good scifi/fantasy film starring old folks would draw me just as much. And sometimes I like older characters because I like to see some of the experience, wisdom, or world-weariness they can bring to a role, while still being effective and vigorous. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] good assessment. Since I was in the target demographic at the time, I remember being drawn to those movies. Please note: most were a disappointment and did not compare to my favs which were Hitchcock, Barbara Stanwick, Jimmy Stewart, Betty Davis, Glenn Ford, Ida Lupino, Sofia Loren, Henry Fonda, Charleton Heston, Joan Crawford, type of movies. Ironically, all those people were in the wrong demographic. So, we should be blaming John Hughes, huh? Mike Street wrote: This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into
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...Don't forget Prince...sorry, 80's flashback... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger
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Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the
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Tracey, I think our culture has *always* been youth-obsessed. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire.
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true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second
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No, Tracey, because I've got two here in Atlanta. Don't go to them, but they're here. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why the beach movies and movies like Splendor in The Grass, Rebel without a Cause, or Westside Story did not dramatically cause the shift? They were essentially doing the same thing. I think back then, more adults considered movie going as entertainment. I'm randomizing now. Anyone miss drive-ins? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear you, it's just odd. I spent some time looking at all kinds of action/fantasy/scifi movies and TV shows from when I was younger. Did a lot of Star Trek research of course. The vast majority of the men and women in many roles are in their late 20s to late '30s. There doesn't seem to be a youth-oriented push, other than if you start counting stuff like the Beach movies with Frankie and Annette. Even the Star Trek vixens of the week were often around 25 and older. I guess the rise of Generation X or Y or Zeta or whatever has got the suits doing the calculations, as you said. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember feeling the same when I was young. I did not need every character to be young like me, however, if truth be told I did relate more to the younger characters. But in our world people are different ages, so it felt like something of our world. It felt right. Not every part seems to fit someone in their mid-twenties. I think they did surveys and focus groups with the people who were the most frequent movie goers and uncovered that most of the related more closely to those closer to their age and perhaps were more motivated to go see a movie with characters closer to their age and as a result, 60% of all movies feature characters in their mid-twenties. Ugh... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer
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Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with
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I had them back in Philly and never went, but I still missed the experience. I guess it is the nostalgia of it all Martin wrote: No, Tracey, because I've got two here in Atlanta. Don't go to them, but they're here. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder why the beach movies and movies like Splendor in The Grass, Rebel without a Cause, or Westside Story did not dramatically cause the shift? They were essentially doing the same thing. I think back then, more adults considered movie going as entertainment. I'm randomizing now. Anyone miss drive-ins? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear you, it's just odd. I spent some time looking at all kinds of action/fantasy/scifi movies and TV shows from when I was younger. Did a lot of Star Trek research of course. The vast majority of the men and women in many roles are in their late 20s to late '30s. There doesn't seem to be a youth-oriented push, other than if you start counting stuff like the Beach movies with Frankie and Annette. Even the Star Trek vixens of the week were often around 25 and older. I guess the rise of Generation X or Y or Zeta or whatever has got the suits doing the calculations, as you said. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember feeling the same when I was young. I did not need every character to be young like me, however, if truth be told I did relate more to the younger characters. But in our world people are different ages, so it felt like something of our world. It felt right. Not every part seems to fit someone in their mid-twenties. I think they did surveys and focus groups with the people who were the most frequent movie goers and uncovered that most of the related more closely to those closer to their age and perhaps were more motivated to go see a movie with characters closer to their age and as a result, 60% of all movies feature characters in their mid-twenties. Ugh... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he
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True Martin wrote: Tracey, I think our culture has *always* been youth-obsessed. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith) -- Original message -- From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly 18-25. On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when
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I went past one a couple of months back, and specifically told myself that I needed to go, just for the nostalgia. I grew up in a small town in Virginia, and it was all that we had in the way of a theater for years. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had them back in Philly and never went, but I still missed the experience. I guess it is the nostalgia of it all Martin wrote: No, Tracey, because I've got two here in Atlanta. Don't go to them, but they're here. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I wonder why the beach movies and movies like Splendor in The Grass, Rebel without a Cause, or Westside Story did not dramatically cause the shift? They were essentially doing the same thing. I think back then, more adults considered movie going as entertainment. I'm randomizing now. Anyone miss drive-ins? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear you, it's just odd. I spent some time looking at all kinds of action/fantasy/scifi movies and TV shows from when I was younger. Did a lot of Star Trek research of course. The vast majority of the men and women in many roles are in their late 20s to late '30s. There doesn't seem to be a youth-oriented push, other than if you start counting stuff like the Beach movies with Frankie and Annette. Even the Star Trek vixens of the week were often around 25 and older. I guess the rise of Generation X or Y or Zeta or whatever has got the suits doing the calculations, as you said. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I remember feeling the same when I was young. I did not need every character to be young like me, however, if truth be told I did relate more to the younger characters. But in our world people are different ages, so it felt like something of our world. It felt right. Not every part seems to fit someone in their mid-twenties. I think they did surveys and focus groups with the people who were the most frequent movie goers and uncovered that most of the related more closely to those closer to their age and perhaps were more motivated to go see a movie with characters closer to their age and as a result, 60% of all movies feature characters in their mid-twenties. Ugh... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too old about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman barel y out of her teens. I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The Omega Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the standard for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem to favor. So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters more? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers.
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Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come
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I have trouble watching those, but some I do. I like the ones were a woman is a Black Widow Spider killing off lustful unsuspecting men who cross her path. Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't)
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More than trouble for me. A few weeks ago, some of my kind friends :P saw fit to treat me to Movie Night. Arachnophobia, followed by Eight Legged Freaks. I didn't sleep well for some time afterward... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have trouble watching those, but some I do. I like the ones were a woman is a Black Widow Spider killing off lustful unsuspecting men who cross her path. Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting
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So do I, lady. Anyone for The Green Slime? The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms? And anything with Gamera in it, of course. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters Martin wrote: Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. Hideous eight-legged creatures. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for the character development as well as the chills and thrills I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my Netflix que I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic bomb experience. But I have no idea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Try these sites from imdb There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, through which you can find other characters in the movie. Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There are 5 videos so far. www.theblairgodzillaproject.com is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired J.J. Abrams to make the film. http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has so far included in both Lost and Alias. Mike Street wrote: try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for
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In a message dated 12/28/07 2:35:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While Godzilla never scared me, I really liked them. Big confession, I liked the Godzilla with Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno. I knew it was bad, but I liked it. I think that was a hit. What about King Kong - specifically the remake, does that fit in this genre? How did it do? Hey You're not the only one that liked the American Godzilla. Infact I liked that movies version of the big-G more than the japanese version. To me that is what I pitcture it (yeah I know it was a she) looking like if someone paid a passing attention to biology. I just wanted to see more of big-g's radioactive breath in the american version (including the glowing back spikes). And I did liked both the basic plot, pacing and the Jenn Reno character. However it was the Broderick character and his crew (save for the camera guy) that I think took the film down (and some bad research of milspec equipment didn't help the film either). In short any successful big ass monster film threated the buy guy like a deadly, wrecklng ball force of nature. The japanese monster flims (well most of them) done this. The american Godizilla film almost did it (at least for the first half). And from what I've seen it's looking like Cloverfield is also going to do the same. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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You are dead on with you analysis. The Broderick /camera crew aspect was weak and needed to be tweaked or reduced and Jean Reno... as Gymfig would say, he has IT I'm a big fan. His character should have been broadened. I realize that would never happen because this was an American Blockbuster and that would be breaking on of their cardinal rules. I liked this better than the old sixties Godzillas as well. Despite the fact that I complain about Abrams, I think he and the team he assembled could pull it off. However, if he succeeds, be forewarned. We will be bombarded with bad copies left and right [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/28/07 2:35:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While Godzilla never scared me, I really liked them. Big confession, I liked the Godzilla with Matthew Broderick and Jean Reno. I knew it was bad, but I liked it. I think that was a hit. What about King Kong - specifically the remake, does that fit in this genre? How did it do? Hey You're not the only one that liked the American Godzilla. Infact I liked that movies version of the big-G more than the japanese version. To me that is what I pitcture it (yeah I know it was a she) looking like if someone paid a passing attention to biology. I just wanted to see more of big-g's radioactive breath in the american version (including the glowing back spikes). And I did liked both the basic plot, pacing and the Jenn Reno character. However it was the Broderick character and his crew (save for the camera guy) that I think took the film down (and some bad research of milspec equipment didn't help the film either). In short any successful big ass monster film threated the buy guy like a deadly, wrecklng ball force of nature. The japanese monster flims (well most of them) done this. The american Godizilla film almost did it (at least for the first half). And from what I've seen it's looking like Cloverfield is also going to do the same. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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In a message dated 12/28/07 11:24:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are dead on with you analysis. The Broderick /camera crew aspect was weak and needed to be tweaked or reduced and Jean Reno... as Gymfig would say, he has IT I'm a big fan. His character should have been broadened. I realize that would never happen because this was an American Blockbuster and that would be breaking on of their cardinal rules. I liked this better than the old sixties Godzillas as well. Despite the fact that I complain about Abrams, I think he and the team he assembled could pull it off. However, if he succeeds, be forewarned. We will be bombarded with bad copies left and right I agree that the Jean Reno group should have been the main focus of the movie. But so should have been the military group if they wanted an american aspect for the american audiance to relate to. I just feel that the movie could have done without the Broderick/crew. And the thing that you mention about bad copies is what I'm affraid of if Cloverfield becomes a hit. To many bad rip offs is what nearly killed both the space opera and fantasy movie/TV series gendre. Especially since it's starting to pick up steam again. -GTW ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Yeah I¹m with you on this. I was sorta excited when the first trailer dropped, but now, I¹m all in. I have a feeling that this might be the first time in a long time that the film may be better than the trailer, because I don¹t get a lot of information from the trailer. Which is SO REFRESHING! Ever since ³Cast Away², There has been very little reason to actually go see a movie, because you know what the major plot turn is going to be from the trailer. Between that and the fact that a lot of the movies are based on stores we already KNOW, Cloverfield could be just what the genre needs! On 12/27/07 9:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo!
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found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Sort of a Cthtulu look to it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as
