Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar
Udhay Shankar N said the following on 06/11/2007 21:09: Udhay, just back from a few days in a resort in Kerala that appeared largely populated by Europeans -- nary a USAnian in sight, FWIW. Kerala is way too exotic for Americans to go to. Besides, it's too near Eyerack, EyeRAN, and all those places. Ram
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Hi all, This reminded me of the episode of Southpark titled Make love not warcraft :-). regards Anish
Re: [silk] The Demise Of The Dollar
On 11/6/07, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/6/07, Ramakrishnan Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Udhay Shankar N said the following on 06/11/2007 21:09: Udhay, just back from a few days in a resort in Kerala that appeared largely populated by Europeans -- nary a USAnian in sight, FWIW. Kerala is way too exotic for Americans to go to. Besides, it's too near Eyerack, EyeRAN, and all those places. Hm. I better cancel my December plans then... -- Charles, looking forward to a relaxing time on a houseboat in the backwaters of Kerala... Forgot to mention - it'll be with two friends from the US who've never been to India before. Any suggestions of cool things to do in Cochin or environs either before or after? -- Charles
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Hi Charles, If you intend to travel around Cochin ( say another 100+ kms) you could see a lot more. BTW what kind of stuff are in interested, culture/history/nature ? regards Anish On 11/6/07, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/6/07, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/6/07, Ramakrishnan Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Udhay Shankar N said the following on 06/11/2007 21:09: Udhay, just back from a few days in a resort in Kerala that appeared largely populated by Europeans -- nary a USAnian in sight, FWIW. Kerala is way too exotic for Americans to go to. Besides, it's too near Eyerack, EyeRAN, and all those places. Hm. I better cancel my December plans then... -- Charles, looking forward to a relaxing time on a houseboat in the backwaters of Kerala... Forgot to mention - it'll be with two friends from the US who've never been to India before. Any suggestions of cool things to do in Cochin or environs either before or after? -- Charles
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Udhay Shankar N said the following on 06/11/2007 21:31: Didn't you get married in Varkala? You'd probably not recognise the place -- lots of shops with signs like Ici on parle Francais and so forth. Did you stay in the Taj, then? Lovely place, terrible (Mal) service. Ram
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Forgot to mention - it'll be with two friends from the US who've never been to India before. Any suggestions of cool things to do in Cochin or environs either before or after? Fish dishes at the Grand Hotel (it is a faded old three star hotel, quite cheap but clean .. but its restaurant is excellent, from the one or two meals I've had there) There's the usual attractions of kochi - the Chinese fishing nets, one of two active jewish communities in India with an old synagogue .. Plus of course using kochi as a base to get to kumarakom (or some beautiful old hindu temples within two or three hours from cochin, that will, unfortunately, not allow non hindus into them)
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Charles Haynes said the following on 06/11/2007 21:40: Forgot to mention - it'll be with two friends from the US who've never been to India before. Any suggestions of cool things to do in Cochin or environs either before or after? Haven't been there recently, so don't know if this still holds true, but my wife and I loved hanging around Jew Town. If you go there, try and meet the keeper of the synagogue - he'll talk at you for a few hours, but he's got interesting things to say. Ram
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Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote [at 10:46 PM 11/6/2007] : Udhay, just back from a few days in a resort in Kerala that appeared largely populated by Europeans -- nary a USAnian in sight, FWIW. Kerala is way too exotic for Americans to go to. Besides, it's too near Eyerack, EyeRAN, and all those places. Didn't you get married in Varkala? You'd probably not recognise the place -- lots of shops with signs like Ici on parle Francais and so forth. Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
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So why ARE there so few Jews in India? I know that historically there were thriving Jewish communities. Is it because they, in general, supported the Raj? Is it because of some form of historical leftist anti-semitism? Most of them emigrated en masse to Israel. There have been some very famous Indian jews (like Nissim Ezekiel, one of india's greatest poets - sadly, died in 2004), and no active local pogroms against them that I am aware of. Kind of like parsees, a minority that doesn't have any major local axes to grind, some quaint religious customs that are nobody's business but their own .. srs
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On 11/6/07, Anish Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Charles, If you intend to travel around Cochin ( say another 100+ kms) you could see a lot more. BTW what kind of stuff are in interested, culture/history/nature ? 1) Food 2) More food 3) Good food 4) History 5) Culture My friends are Jewish btw (as is my sweetie Debbie FWIW) and that is one of the reasons we're going to Cochin. (FWIW Jew Town would probably be offensive to most Jews, but we will be visiting Cochin's Jewish Quarter and synagogues for sure.) So why ARE there so few Jews in India? I know that historically there were thriving Jewish communities. Is it because they, in general, supported the Raj? Is it because of some form of historical leftist anti-semitism? -- Charles
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On Nov 6, 2007 9:40 AM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to mention - it'll be with two friends from the US who've never been to India before. Any suggestions of cool things to do in Cochin or environs either before or after? I was in kochi in Jun of 2005. My photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/thaths/sets/72157602497735184/ I strongly recommend staying at either the Old Courtyard Inn or the Neemrana hotel that was supposed to be opened in Fort Kochi (check their website). As for things to do: Definitely go to a kathakali performance. Go a couple of hours early and photograph the performers making up. Eat lots of yummy malayalee food. Unfortunately, the Hindu temples in kerala are very strict about not allowing non-Hindus. If you find a less fussy temple, makes sense to go check out the keralan temple architecture. Bathe in a river. The local CPI/CPI(M) offices are great photo ops. The Kochi pardesi synagogue (Mattancherry / Jew Town) is a must see. Walk the narrow streets and see the abandoned houses of the Jews that used to live in this area. Antique shopping in Mattancherry is also good. Eat a dosa in an India Coffee House in Eranakulam. Visit the FLAG landing place if you can. See the big cable laying ship in the Kochi port. The Fort Kochi fish market is also a great place to take photos. Thaths -- Bart: I want to be emancipated. Homer: Emancipated?! Don't you like being a dude? -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders
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On Nov 6, 2007 9:55 AM, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Food 2) More food 3) Good food Lots of this to be had. Try both the local Keralan cuisine and also the fusion cuisine. There are some good cookbooks on Malayalee cuisine available as well. 4) History Fort Kochi is good. Also, many good books available. 5) Culture Kathakali / Mohini attam are great to watch. If you are interested, maybe visit an Ayurveda hospital (not one of those massage places). My friends are Jewish btw (as is my sweetie Debbie FWIW) and that is one of the reasons we're going to Cochin. (FWIW Jew Town would probably be offensive to most Jews, but we will be visiting Cochin's Jewish Quarter and synagogues for sure.) IMO, Jew Town, despite the name, is not offensive. In addition to the Mattancherry synagogue, walk around the the place and observe abandoned houses and the Jewish graveyard. So why ARE there so few Jews in India? I know that historically there were thriving Jewish communities. Is it because they, in general, supported the Raj? Is it because of some form of historical leftist anti-semitism? There are a couple of good books available about this. I suspect that the creation of Israel and its liberal immigration policy to the diaspora (including the Baghdadi jews of Kerala) also contributed to the exodus out of India. Thaths -- Bart: I want to be emancipated. Homer: Emancipated?! Don't you like being a dude? -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders
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At 2007-11-06 10:44:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (FWIW Jew Town would probably be offensive to most Jews [...] IMO, Jew Town, despite the name, is not offensive. I thought he meant the name was offensive. -- ams
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on the jewish story. there were a few thousand European Jews who were in INdia in the 40s in mumbai who later went to Israel. there were refugees during the war. One of my friends' dad taught French at University of Mumbai and met a lot of the jewish people at the time. 2007/11/6, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/6/07, Charles Haynes wrote: Forgot to mention - it'll be with two friends from the US who've never been to India before. Any suggestions of cool things to do in Cochin or environs either before or after? watch out for the fleas in fort cochin... anybody looking foreign is game. ernakulam has hideous traffic problems. but travelling south is much better, specially alleppey... and foriegners are allowed in the temples around alleppey (some pretty old ones there). I found some of the older churches pretty strange (it doesnt seem to be part of any tourist circuit...). I found this weird church near alleppey which specializes in curing insane people
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On 11/6/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 03:23:43PM +, Sriram Karra wrote: In short, with access to your inbox, implementing such a system should be fairly straightforward... right? I'd like to think so. [Maybe one of these Oh, I don't think so. Why so? And automatic anythings won't work that well in future, given captchas. I was only talking about unsubscribe and flipping vacation flags. Do you know any list manager that uses captchas to unsubscribe? I haven't been following this business all that much, but it makes no sense at all to do that. It's a smart thing to ensure you let *in* only humans, that's for sure. Once you do that, all you are left with on the list are humans. Not that I can think of any reason why an automated bot would 'want' out, if it ever got in anyway :)
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On 6 Nov 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are driving down to Cochin, take the scenic route through Gundulpet, Bathery, and Calicut. It's quite a lovely drive. 1) Food When in Calicut, go for lunch to the Paragon hotel (ask anyone, it is a small town). Ask for 'meen pollichathu'. Eat it with some 'pathiri'. 2) More food Keep asking for 'meen pollichathu' until the fish is 'aikura'. It's usually a different fish everyday. 3) Good food Go across to the Taj (just round the corner) and have some Thevara beef. Paragon has stopped serving beef. On your way out of Calicut, don't forget to buy some banana chips from Sreekumaran's. -- Alok All intelligent species own cats.
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On 11/6/07, Madhu M Kurup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm: Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: But I'd have figured someone with a gnu.org address would be able to figure out how to unsub from a mailman list .. oh well. Time to confess up, I recently went through an email address change and for the life of me could not find the original mail/monthly mail from mailman either. I caved in and emailed the admin(s). It didn't occur to me that the headers would have any info ... FWIW. Cheerio, M -- I do have the same problem. I have a catchall address for my domain and use different names to subscribe to different lists hoping to cut off spam. The assumption is that I can simply delete the address when I detect it is getting spam. I often find out who is spamming from the address. For example if I have an account with bank Blah-blah I would use the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now when I get spam mail addressed to blah-blah I know the guilty culprit. My hit rate has been extremely low till date and I have started depending more on gmail to detect spam A side effect is that sometimes I forget what email I used and get lost if this is needed for any reason (such as authentication or password forgotten) Deepak
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On Tuesday 06 Nov 2007 6:20 pm, Deepa Mohan wrote: the unsubscribe email doesn't always seem to unsubscribe one Few people (especially the techies) realise that the server that gets the message is located in France and that server interprets the unsubscribe message as un subscription - or one subscription and responds with Yes you are a subscriber and will stay subscribed shiv (who knows so much French that even the French don't know)
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On 11/7/07, Alok G. Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep asking for 'meen pollichathu' until the fish is 'aikura'. It's usually a different fish everyday. I disagree. Aikura is the local name for seer. Ask for kari-meen or pearl spot. That's the one to be had as 'meen pollichathu'. Go across to the Taj (just round the corner) and have some Thevara beef. Paragon has stopped serving beef. What's the place with the 'netti pollichathu kozhi? Roughly, it translates to 'chicken fried standing-up'. -Gautam
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On 11/6/07, Charles Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (FWIW Jew Town would probably be offensive to most Jews, but we will be visiting Cochin's Jewish Quarter and synagogues for sure.) Historically, Jew Town is what Cochin's Jewish Quarter (uhh ... Jewish sixty-fourth?) is called. I've noticed that words (and gestures[1]) with loaded meanings elsewhere are pretty innocuous in India (and in Kerala especially). That's probably because Indian repression has been directed mostly at lower classes rather than other races. I remember a Nigerian friend bemusedly telling me about having a pleasant conversation with an old gent at a bus stand in Trivandrum. The conversation ended with the old chap saying, Nice talking to you. We don't get many of you Negroes around here, so it's quite a treat to talk to one. -- b [1] I recently saw some pictures of a function at my niece's school where she took an oath to be a good student, study hard and eat all her vegetables. Apparently, my brother and his wife were the only people who were bothered by the fact that all the students used a Nazi Heil Hitler-style salute to take the oath.
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At 2007-11-07 10:02:53 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the place with the 'netti pollichathu kozhi? Roughly, it translates to 'chicken fried standing-up'. Actually, it would translate to chicken /split/, not fried, standing up. I think the word you're looking for is porichathu (r not ll), though the transliteration into English leaves much to be desired either way. -- ams
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On 11/7/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it would translate to chicken /split/, not fried, standing up. I think the word you're looking for is porichathu (r not ll), though the transliteration into English leaves much to be desired either way. I stand corrected.
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On 11/7/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shiv (who knows so much French that even the French don't know) Learned in Pondicherry? IIRC, you studied there. Don't they have slightly Tamilised French there? -- b (who despite several years of French study is down to one phrase Parlez vous Anglais?)
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On 11/7/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2007-11-07 10:02:53 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the place with the 'netti pollichathu kozhi? Roughly, it translates to 'chicken fried standing-up'. Actually, it would translate to chicken /split/, not fried, standing up. I think the word you're looking for is porichathu (r not ll), though the transliteration into English leaves much to be desired either way. My Malayalam is terrible, but IIRC porichathu -- fried pollichathu -- wrapped in banana leaves and fried. Normally only fish is fried that way. To confuse things further, around my native place they use them interchangeably, thus annoying my Dad who usually says 'pollichathu' in restaurants when he wants 'porichathu'. -- b
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On 11/7/07, Binand Sethumadhavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pollichathu - coated with spices, wrapped in a banana leaf and baked. It's baked? Whenever I've had it, it's always been fried.
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At 2007-11-07 10:24:12 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pollichathu - coated with spices, wrapped in a banana leaf and baked. Really? Wow. And is this really the same word as split, or did the Englishification screw it up? -- ams
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On 11/7/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/07, Binand Sethumadhavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pollichathu - coated with spices, wrapped in a banana leaf and baked. It's baked? Whenever I've had it, it's always been fried. It's baked in a frying pan. You put just enough oil so that it doesn't stick to the pan and then close the pan. Effectively it's baked in the banana leaf. -- b
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And now I'm hungry... I wonder if the Grand is still as good as it once was... I ate there a few months ago and it was superlative. Alleppey fish curry (instead of karimeen), and a chicken chettinad that had some amazingly tender, perfectly cooked chicken, seasoned with fresh pepper and was, interestingly enough, NOT drowning in oil the way a lot of madras restaurants serve it up.
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On 11/7/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ate there a few months ago and it was superlative. And then there's Fry's. How I love that place. I'm not sure how well known it is though. Ceylon Bake House, has unfortunately gone down the sh**ter.
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On 11/7/07, Biju Chacko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's baked in a frying pan. You put just enough oil so that it doesn't stick to the pan and then close the pan. Effectively it's baked in the banana leaf. And now I'm hungry... I wonder if the Grand is still as good as it once was...
[silk] Meen pollichathu (was: The Demise Of The Dollar)
On 7 Nov 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. Aikura is the local name for seer. Ask for kari-meen or pearl spot. That's the one to be had as 'meen pollichathu'. Balderdash. Karimeen is generally associated with the backwaters and Calicut isn't. Malabar and Moplah cuisine doesn't have too much in common with the southern icons of karimeen pollichathu and fish moilee :) You'll probably get karimeen at Paragon though. Also, Paragon makes their pollichathu (literally, seared) in a (afaik) unique fashion. -- Alok NANCY!! Why is everything RED?!
Re: [silk] Meen pollichathu (was: The Demise Of The Dollar)
Wonder what the Tamil equivalent for pollichathu is...should be something very similar, no? One word I can think of is Avichathu - (like avicha-muttai - poached/boiled egg) C -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ravages http://www.linkedin.com/in/ravages http://www.selectiveamnesia.org/ +91-9884467463
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The lens of my SLR / and CCD sensor of my camera have dust patches on them... How do i remove these ? I tried wiping it with a microfiber cloth but it doesnt seem to work . Any ideas ? ashok
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On 07/11/2007, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/07, Binand Sethumadhavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pollichathu - coated with spices, wrapped in a banana leaf and baked. It's baked? Whenever I've had it, it's always been fried. The Malayalam verb pollikkuka means, among other things, to cook in dry heat which is characteristic of baking. Pollicha fish does not come into direct contact with oil and hence is generally considered baked even though it is cooked in a frying pan. The oil used in the pollikkal process is only to ensure that the leaf itself does not burn or stick to the pan used. Binand
Re: [silk] Dust patches on camera lens...
The lens of my SLR / and CCD sensor of my camera have dust patches on them... How do i remove these ? I tried wiping it with a microfiber cloth but it doesnt seem to work . Any ideas ? http://www.cameralabs.com/workshops/dslr_dust/ has some sound advice
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India was ahead of the curve, on this one... A new school of traffic design says we should get rid of stop signs and red lights and let cars, bikes and people mingle together. It sounds insane, but it works. http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/2004/05/20/traffic_design/index.html
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 09:25:20AM +0300, ashok _ wrote: The lens of my SLR / and CCD sensor of my camera have dust patches on them... How do i remove these ? I tried wiping it with a microfiber cloth but it doesnt seem to work . Any ideas ? Professionals use collodium on lenses, but I would be very careful, since it's an diethylether/ethanol solution which could damage some polymers/coatings. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE