Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get back when feel up to reading them all.

2002-09-25 Thread Terry Dickinson
Where are you in the UK Kevin?

Terry
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Raggett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:28 AM
  Subject: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get 
back when feel up to reading them all.


Hello All,

I will read all your replies soon.

I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one.  
Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live 
alone and on disability.

Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ?

Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve 
this misery.

All the best to you all and thanks.

Kevin 
   
   


Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful, will get back when feel up to reading them all.

2002-09-25 Thread Ode Coyote

It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is.
Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time.
You just can't beat a dollar per gallon.  It costs more than that to ship the water.
ken

At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote: 

Hello All,


I will read all your replies soon.


I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one.  Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I live alone and on disability.


Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ?


Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve this misery.


All the best to you all and thanks.


Kevin









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Re: CSThe destruction of my life by Lyme Disease - can CS help me - ANY ADVICE APPRECIATED - THANK YOU SO MUCH

2002-09-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
Many here, as well as some I know have had complete success using Bob
Beck's protocol of CS, ozonated water, blood electrification (or Clark's
zapper) and magnetic pulsing.

Some have apparently licked it with CS alone, but the more advanced you
are I believe the less likely CS alone will do it.

Marshall

Kevin Raggett wrote:


  Hi, My life has been utterly destroyed by Chronic Lyme
  disease. For 5 years I have been virtually homebound/bedridden
  by this evil soul destroying illness. I have tried so many
  things and 2 years of all kinds of antibiotics WHICH HAVE MADE
  ME SICKER THAN I WAS TO START WITH. I now have a chronic ear
  infection which will not clear up and the Lyme just weakens and
  destroys my energy and strength. I have very limited funds but
  have read some things about Dr Victor Marcial-Vega and these 2
  products. Have you had any people with severe Lyme disease
  benefit from them ? I am desperate - any improvement in my
  health would be better than this nightmare that never ends. I am
  in the UK and any help would be so very much appreciated. Thank
  you so much Kevin M Raggett



Re: CSThe destruction of my life by Lyme Disease - can CS help me - ANY ADVICE APPRECIATED - THANK YOU SO MUCH

2002-09-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
krfa...@att.net wrote:

 Hi Kevin,
I want to share the protocol that I have been using very successfully for 
 my
 Lyme Disease.


 But these oils are bactericidal, and immune stimulating, and help regenerate
 body tissues. Don't put it on in your eye or on mucus membranes.



Would that be a problem for a female in the bath?

Marshall


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Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.

2002-09-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same advice to 
others with Lyme.  It can take lots, and if you run out for a few days, you are 
right back where you
started.

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

 It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator on 
 ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is.
 Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time.
 You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to ship the 
 water.
 ken

 At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote:
 

  Hello All,

  I will read all your replies soon.

  I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good one. 
 Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money left. I 
 live alone and on disability.

  Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ?

  Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to relieve 
 this misery.

  All the best to you all and thanks.

  Kevin

 

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CS[Fwd: Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill - State Now Wide Open.]

2002-09-25 Thread Leo Regehr
I am forwarding this to a list of people in my address book that may be
interested in this.
Leo
---BeginMessage---
Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill -  State Now
Wide Open.

Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

September 24, 2002


Today, September 24, 2002, is a very important date in Health
Freedom History.  For today, California Governor Gray Davis
signed into law the most important Health Freedom bill in world
history - California SB 577.  The paragraph below contains PART
of the language in the bill.  For Californians, section (c),
below makes health care wide open.  Naturopaths, Homeopaths,
Nutritionists, etc., are now free to offer services, without
harassment.  To read the whole bill go to
http://www.californiahealthfreedom.org/documents/our_bill.asp

(c) The Legislature intends, by enactment of this act, to allow
access by California residents to complementary and alternative
health care practitioners who are not providing services that
require medical training and credentials. The Legislature further
finds that these nonmedical complementary and alternative
services do not pose a known risk to the health and safety of
California residents, and that restricting access to those
services due to technical violations of the Medical Practice Act
is not warranted.

California, the fifth largest stand alone economy in the world,
has for some time led the nation in percentage (estimated at 75%)
of health care dollars spent on Alternative Medicine.  Now,
that percentage is expected to increase.

It's OVER for standard Allopathic care in North America.

Tim Bolen
Consumer Advocate


This Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter  is about
the battle between Health and Medicine on Planet Earth. Tim
Bolen is an op/ed writer with extensive knowledge of the
activities of a subversive organization calling itself the
quackbusters,  and that organization's attempts to suppress,
and discredit, any, and all health modalities that compete with
the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health dollars.  The
focus of the newsletter is on the ongoing activities, battles,
politics, and the victories won by members of the Health Freedom
Movement against the quackbusters   It details who the
quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when
they appear, and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat
them...

For background information on the Battle between Health and
Medicine go to: http://www.savedrclark.net/by_whom2.htm.  A copy
of THIS newsletter, and older ones, are viewable at the website
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To unsubscribe - send a message to the return e-mail address
listed above.


---End Message---


Re: CS[Fwd: Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill - State Now Wide Open.]

2002-09-25 Thread Bill Missett
Leo:  Can you provide us the website to subscribe to the Quackwatch
newsletter?

Many thanks .
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From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telusplanet.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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Subject: CS[Fwd: Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill - State
Now Wide Open.]


 I am forwarding this to a list of people in my address book that may be
 interested in this.
 Leo




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Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.

2002-09-25 Thread Lynda Khula
this is just a update, two years ago I wrote about my sister having lung
cancer in both lungs and was told by the doctors she was in stage 4 and
would not make it but a few weeks, they did not offer any treatment, she
started on the cs water and after doing better for 6 weeks they offered her
treatment, she is still here and just became a grandmother  her daughter had
a baby boy, thanks to James who I purchased my machine from and for the
words of encouragement something of which the doctors had none, the second
doctor told her she had already lived two years longer then she should have,
she is still doing great ,  then last year I wrote and asked about brown rot
that was all over our plums for the last 3 years and they where just getting
worst every year, we mixed cs in the water tank and sprayed the trees and
this year no brown rot not even one tree,,, so again thanks for the info
and the help
Lynda
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get
back when feel up to reading them all.


 Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same
advice to others with Lyme.  It can take lots, and if you run out for a few
days, you are right back where you
 started.

 Marshall

 Ode Coyote wrote:

  It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good generator
on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is.
  Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time.
  You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to ship
the water.
  ken
 
  At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote:
  
 
   Hello All,
 
   I will read all your replies soon.
 
   I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good
one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money
left. I live alone and on disability.
 
   Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ?
 
   Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to
relieve this misery.
 
   All the best to you all and thanks.
 
   Kevin
 
  
 
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CSUnidentified subject!

2002-09-25 Thread Garrett, Susan L (NSE)
Does anyone know where I can purchase some 14 gage silver wire for a
homemade machine? Susan


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2002-09-25 Thread Arnold Beland
12 gauge will give you better value.  Do a search on eBay for 

Best Regards,
Arnold Beland

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From: Garrett, Susan L (NSE) garret...@everett.navy.mil
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:28 PM
Subject: CSUnidentified subject!


 Does anyone know where I can purchase some 14 gage silver wire for a
 homemade machine? Susan
 
 
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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2002-09-25 Thread Jannette McKoy-Abel
Susan,
Here is a good source of 12-14-gauge . silver wire

http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/fines.html#four

There is a minimum $20.00 per order, but if you don't use a lot you probably
can split an order with someone you know.

Jannette

  - Original Message -
 From: Garrett, Susan L (NSE) garret...@everett.navy.mil
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:28 PM
 Subject: CSUnidentified subject!


  Does anyone know where I can purchase some 14 gage silver wire for a
  homemade machine? Susan
 
 
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Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.

2002-09-25 Thread James Allison
Lynda, it is just these kinds of words that make my heart soar.  I'm glad I
was able to offer encouragement at a time that you needed it!  You may want
to let the others on the list know how much colloidal silver she was taking
and how often she was taking it (if you have time to write another message
that is), as that may help others in the same situation.

Yours in health,
James Allison



- Original Message -
From: Lynda Khula ne...@clinic.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get
back when feel up to reading them all.


 this is just a update, two years ago I wrote about my sister having lung
 cancer in both lungs and was told by the doctors she was in stage 4 and
 would not make it but a few weeks, they did not offer any treatment, she
 started on the cs water and after doing better for 6 weeks they offered
her
 treatment, she is still here and just became a grandmother  her daughter
had
 a baby boy, thanks to James who I purchased my machine from and for the
 words of encouragement something of which the doctors had none, the second
 doctor told her she had already lived two years longer then she should
have,
 she is still doing great ,  then last year I wrote and asked about brown
rot
 that was all over our plums for the last 3 years and they where just
getting
 worst every year, we mixed cs in the water tank and sprayed the trees and
 this year no brown rot not even one tree,,, so again thanks for the
info
 and the help
 Lynda
 - Original Message -
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will
get
 back when feel up to reading them all.


  Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same
 advice to others with Lyme.  It can take lots, and if you run out for a
few
 days, you are right back where you
  started.
 
  Marshall
 
  Ode Coyote wrote:
 
   It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good
generator
 on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is.
   Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time.
   You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to
ship
 the water.
   ken
  
   At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote:
   
  
Hello All,
  
I will read all your replies soon.
  
I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a good
 one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money
 left. I live alone and on disability.
  
Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ?
  
Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to
 relieve this misery.
  
All the best to you all and thanks.
  
Kevin
  
   
  
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CSGovernor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill

2002-09-25 Thread Jan Bolen

Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill 
Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

September 24, 2002

 

Today, September 24, 2002, is a very important date in Health Freedom History. 
For today, California Governor Gray Davis signed into law the most important 
Health Freedom bill in world history - California SB 577. The paragraph below 
contains PART of the language in the bill. For Californians, section (c), below 
makes health care wide open. Naturopaths, Homeopaths, Nutritionists, etc., 
are now free to offer services, without harassment. To read the whole bill go 
to http://www.californiahealthfreedom.org/documents/our_bill.asp

(c) The Legislature intends, by enactment of this act, to allow access by 
California residents to complementary and alternative health care practitioners 
who are not providing services that require medical training and credentials. 
The Legislature further finds that these nonmedical complementary and 
alternative services do not pose a known risk to the health and safety of 
California residents, and that restricting access to those services due to 
technical violations of the Medical Practice Act is not warranted.

California, the fifth largest stand alone economy in the world, has for some 
time led the nation in percentage (estimated at 75%) of health care dollars 
spent on Alternative Medicine. Now, that percentage is expected to increase. 

 

 

Tim Bolen

Consumer Advocate

 

This Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter is about the battle 
between Health and Medicine on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an op/ed writer 
with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive organization calling 
itself the quackbusters, and that organization's attempts to suppress, and 
discredit, any, and all health modalities that compete with the allopathic (MD) 
paradigm for consumer health dollars. The focus of the newsletter is on the 
ongoing activities, battles, politics, and the victories won by members of the 
Health Freedom Movement against the quackbusters It details who the 
quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when they appear, 
and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat them...

For background information on the Battle between Health and Medicine go to: 
http://www.savedrclark.net/by_whom2.htm. A copy of THIS newsletter, and older 
ones, are viewable at the website http://www.quackpotwatch.org/default.htm

To unsubscribe - send a message to the return e-mail address listed above.

 

 

 



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Re: CSThe destruction of my life by Lyme Disease - can CS help me - ANY ADVICE APPRECIATED - THANK YOU SO MUCH

2002-09-25 Thread Connie
They oils would be a major problem if you have small dogs and cats in the
house exposed to them. Especially at those levels.
Connie


 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:52:17 -0400
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSThe destruction of my life by Lyme Disease - can CS help me -
 ANY  ADVICE APPRECIATED - THANK YOU SO MUCH
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 06:59:12 -0700
 
 krfa...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi Kevin,
 I want to share the protocol that I have been using very successfully for my
 Lyme Disease.
 
 
 But these oils are bactericidal, and immune stimulating, and help regenerate
 body tissues. Don't put it on in your eye or on mucus membranes.
 
 
 
 Would that be a problem for a female in the bath?
 
 Marshall
 
 
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CSCrash Course availible??

2002-09-25 Thread Balwiles
Hi,

I was interested to learn if anyone has compiled an up to date overview of 
CS/ how and with what equipment to make it properly. What it can be combined 
with in therapy (such as oxygen, etc.)??

Thanks in advance for any thoughts, 

Scott


Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get back when feel up to reading them all.

2002-09-25 Thread Lynda Khula
she did what you told me to tell her to do, she started with 1/2 cup in the
morning and 1/2 in the evening and I think she has cut that down to 1/4 cup
a day, the last test she had done both lungs where clear in fact the doctor
said that if he did not know better he would say she had never smoked, and
she did for a lot of years,  the tumor that was sitting on her heart which
could have killed her at anytime is now like a piece of flesh they want to
give her another body scan in Dec so far they can not find any cancer
anywhere other then the one by her heart which they are keeping an eye on
that is as much as I know right now  she cut down to 1/4 cup after a year,
hope this helps James,
Lynda



- Original Message -
From: James Allison apothec...@cox.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will get
back when feel up to reading them all.


 Lynda, it is just these kinds of words that make my heart soar.  I'm glad
I
 was able to offer encouragement at a time that you needed it!  You may
want
 to let the others on the list know how much colloidal silver she was
taking
 and how often she was taking it (if you have time to write another message
 that is), as that may help others in the same situation.

 Yours in health,
 James Allison



 - Original Message -
 From: Lynda Khula ne...@clinic.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will
get
 back when feel up to reading them all.


  this is just a update, two years ago I wrote about my sister having lung
  cancer in both lungs and was told by the doctors she was in stage 4 and
  would not make it but a few weeks, they did not offer any treatment, she
  started on the cs water and after doing better for 6 weeks they offered
 her
  treatment, she is still here and just became a grandmother  her daughter
 had
  a baby boy, thanks to James who I purchased my machine from and for the
  words of encouragement something of which the doctors had none, the
second
  doctor told her she had already lived two years longer then she should
 have,
  she is still doing great ,  then last year I wrote and asked about brown
 rot
  that was all over our plums for the last 3 years and they where just
 getting
  worst every year, we mixed cs in the water tank and sprayed the trees
and
  this year no brown rot not even one tree,,, so again thanks for the
 info
  and the help
  Lynda
  - Original Message -
  From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:55 AM
  Subject: Re: CSThank you all for your replies - I am very grateful,will
 get
  back when feel up to reading them all.
 
 
   Even though I am a supplier of ready made CS, I have giving this same
  advice to others with Lyme.  It can take lots, and if you run out for a
 few
  days, you are right back where you
   started.
  
   Marshall
  
   Ode Coyote wrote:
  
It won't be very long before you've spent the price of a good
 generator
  on ready made CS no matter where you buy it...no matter how good it is.
Treating lyme takes a LOT of CS over a fairly long period of time.
You just can't beat a dollar per gallon. It costs more than that to
 ship
  the water.
ken
   
At 05:28 AM 9/25/02 +0100, you wrote:

   
 Hello All,
   
 I will read all your replies soon.
   
 I want to get a ready made solution and need to know about a
good
  one. Apparently there are lots of bad ones and I have very little money
  left. I live alone and on disability.
   
 Does anyone know of a GOOD solution from a reputable supplier ?
   
 Many thanks again - I am so depserate to start one something to
  relieve this misery.
   
 All the best to you all and thanks.
   
 Kevin
   

   
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CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread Rich Adams
This is a reply from a company selling 500ppm CS.  I need all your
valuable input please.  This is the reply from one Dr.  Lynn who owns the
website (www.graywhalebotanicals.com) where she is selling it.


 I tend to follow clinical stuff and this is what I use:  clinical
laboratory tests at Eastern Tennessee State University, Dept. of
Microbiology, show that the level for effectiveness is at least 250 parts
per
million.  The 500 ppm is a clinical dosage and is only sold to licensed
practitioners.  The 500 ppm is approved by the FDA and there is no known
toxicity reported by the U.S. Poison Control Center. 


The FDA approved this?  Is this Dr talking nonsense?

If you have input and can specify links, that would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Respectfully,
Rich Adams
rad...@kc.rr.com







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Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread Bill Missett
I think this CS BS runs deep.


- Original Message - 
From: Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:04 PM
Subject: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS


 This is a reply from a company selling 500ppm CS.  I need all your
 valuable input please.  This is the reply from one Dr.  Lynn who owns the
 website (www.graywhalebotanicals.com) where she is selling it.
 
 
  I tend to follow clinical stuff and this is what I use:  clinical
 laboratory tests at Eastern Tennessee State University, Dept. of
 Microbiology, show that the level for effectiveness is at least 250 parts
 per
 million.  The 500 ppm is a clinical dosage and is only sold to licensed
 practitioners.  The 500 ppm is approved by the FDA and there is no known
 toxicity reported by the U.S. Poison Control Center. 
 
 
 The FDA approved this?  Is this Dr talking nonsense?
 
 If you have input and can specify links, that would be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Respectfully,
 Rich Adams
 rad...@kc.rr.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CS[Fwd: Governor Signs New California Health Freedom Bill - State Now Wide Open.]

2002-09-25 Thread Dean Miller
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:57:33 -0600, Leo Regehr
leoel...@telusplanet.net wrote:

Today, September 24, 2002, is a very important date in Health
Freedom History.  For today, California Governor Gray Davis
signed into law the most important Health Freedom bill in world
history - California SB 577

Akshully, Minnesota passed that law 2 years ago.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CSNature's Treasure Silver Machine

2002-09-25 Thread Jack Dayton


From: Jannette McKoy-Abel je...@optonline.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNature's Treasure Silver Machine
Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:26:21 -0700

Jannette wrote:
I'm considering purchasing this company's CS generator.  The Silver Machine
seems to be not only capable of producing high quality CS, but also does
that at a really good price!  This is very important to me because not only
do I have severe health issues, but I also am on Disability as a result of
these issues, so cost is a big consideration.  The info on the website
sounds great, but is a little sketchy on some of the details, IMHO.  As this
will be an international purchase for me, I am wondering if anyone on this
list has any usage experience with this machine and would like to share the
info (good/bad), makes no difference.  The product page on the company's
website is:

*
Hi Jannette,

Don't even consider buying from that outfit --
$166 for what?  I went to that site, and all
I can say is It's a joke at that price. You might
want to consider it if they were asking $50, but
no way $166, plus what the SH would come to.

I will suggest two sources for generators that
will do what you need (make good CS in a
reasonable length of time) and 2 out of three
generators sold there cost less money, and
the SH is either free or reasonable.
I will say without reservation that you will be
hard pressed to find better products than those
offered by:

silverpuppy.com
or
http://silvergen.com

I have done business with both owners,
and haven't had a problem with them.

Jack 


Re: CSQuestion about new batches of CS?

2002-09-25 Thread Jack Dayton


From: Martha N. mnea...@earthlink.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:47:54 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuestion about new batches of CS?
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:45:57 -0700

Why is there so much different in ppm of distilled or spring water that you
buy?  I thought it was all suppose to say 0ppm??
***

Martha you haven't been paying attention!
There is no consideration between spring water
and distilled --  ONLY use Distilled to make CS,
and even then you can't be sure what you are buying.

Spring water is usually fine for drinking, but
never for making safe silver water.

Jack




CSRemember: 20 Reasons Not To Take The Smallpox Vaccination

2002-09-25 Thread DARocksMom
  1. George W. Bush has said of smallpox vaccination: One of my concerns
if we were to have universal vaccination, some might lose their life.
~The Times (in London), November 09, 2001.

  2. For each million people vaccinated with the smallpox vaccine, as
many as 250 could die, according to the American Medical Association.
Multiply 250 times 285 (millions of Americans) and the possible deaths
from universal smallpox vaccination could equal 71,250. ~ Journal of the
American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p. 2132.

  3. The American Medical Association said on Tuesday it was not in
favor of an immediate mass U.S.smallpox vaccination program, saying the
potential threat of a bioterror attack did not warrant inoculating every
American against the disease. ~Reuters, December 12, 2001.

  4. Right now the risk of getting the vaccine is higher than the
benefit. You could get a secondary infection, a full-blown systemic
infection.  ~Marie Rau, Panhandle Health District nurse, quoted by The
Spokesman-Review,  November 20, 2001.

  5. CDC director Jeffrey Koplan has admitted that universal smallpox
vaccination could unleash a significant number of side-effects. He said
that because many parts of ourpopulation do not have arobust immune 
system, a fair number of people could have serious reactions. ~Koplan
speaking on the PBS special Bioterror Propaganda aired by WETA,
November 14, 2001.

  6. If the entire nation were to receive a smallpox vaccine, several
thousand people would likely develop encephalitis, an inflammation of the
brain. ~Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

  7. Roger J. Pomerantz, chief of the infectious disease department at
Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, said that doctors have no
idea what the smallpox vaccine might do to people at the extremes of
life--less than 2 and older than 65. He said that an even greater concern
would be its effect on people with weakened immune systems from HIV
infection, chemotherapy or  transplants. ~Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

  8. Researchers have been reluctant to recommend a new vaccination
program which would use the smallpox vaccine for the local population
because the vaccine can cause disease and death in persons with
inadequate immune systems. ~Science, Vol. 277, July 18, 1997, pp.
312-13.

  9. Routine smallpox vaccination in the United States ended in 1972.
Officials are hesitant to resume the immunizations because the vaccine is
the most reactive of all and has been linked to serious side 
effects, including death. ~ Reuters, November 29, 2001.

  10. Eight printed pages of medical studies documenting the many serious
side effects of smallpox vaccination can be obtained at
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html;. See smallpox vaccine
adverse reactions 66-76. [Note: go to the home page above and put
smallpox vaccine adverse reaction in the search engine.] Repercussions
include serious brain and heart diseases, autism, abnormal chromosomal
changes, diabetes, various cancers and leukemias, plus demyelination of
nerve tissue years after
 vaccination.

  11. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that vaccination must not be
forced on persons whose physical condition would make such vaccination
cruel and inhuman. In other words, the state has no right to command
that an individual sacrifice his life in the name of public health. 
~Jacobsen V. Massachusettes, 197 U.S. 11 (1905).

  12. By the 1920s, several British medical researchers documented that
smallpox was not only more common among the VACCINATED, but that the
DEATH RATE from smallpox was actually higher among those who had been
vaccinated. This indicates that the vaccine was ineffective and
predisposed 
vaccinated persons to more lethal disease. ~Vaccination, Dr. Viera
Scheibner,  Australia, 1993, pp. 205-220. 

  13. Getting a vaccination does not guarantee immunity. ~CDC, January
28, 1994.

  14. By 1987, scientific evidence indicated that the World Health
Organization's 13-year global smallpox vaccination campaign may have
awakened dormant HIV infection in many vaccinees. ~Times (in London) May
11, 1987.

 15. Vaccines made from animal substrate contain animal viruses that are
impossible to filter out. By 1961, scientists discovered that animal
viruses in vaccines, including smallpox, could act as a carcinogen when
given to mice in combination with cancer-causing chemicals, even in
amounts too small to induce tumors alone. They concluded that vaccine
viruses function as a catalyst for tumor production. ~Science, December
15, 1961.

  16. Some of the new smallpox vaccine doses will be created with animal
substrate. Because the vaccine will incorporate vaccinia, the cowpox
virus, many wonder about possible mad-cow contamination. Fifty-five 
million doses of the new vaccine will be created using a cell line dating
back to 1966 and cultured from the lung tissues of an aborted human
fetus. ~World Net Daily, December 4, 2001.

  17. The new smallpox vaccine will be 

CSQuestions about Lyme treatment

2002-09-25 Thread LOANROB
TO Paul,
When I first started to use CS I bought it off the internet. It was very 
expensive, but it was working. I finally got brave and decided to make my 
own. I ordered a CS maker from Silvergen. Trem who is on this list makes and 
sells these generators. I just read the instructions he sent with the 
generator. I use distilled water with nothing added. I started out taking 3 
swallows a day. I swish it around in my mouth and gargle with it then 
swallow. Some days I took more. If I was feeling really ill I would take more 
say up to 8oz a day. It has been two years and I'm still taking it 3 times a 
day. I just swig it right from the bottle. And no I'm not turning blue, I'm 
just feeling grateful to have my health back. I started an exercise program 
when I started to get my strength back. At first I just walked a few minutes 
on the treadmill, and worked my muscles. Now after two years I am either 
jogging 3 miles or biking 10 miles almost everyday. Isn't that incredible!
I hope this helps.

Christiane S.

Christiane S.


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Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
I will contact them tomorrow.  We had CS tested by UT and they found
effectiveness in the less than 1 ppm range.

Marshall

Rich Adams wrote:

 This is a reply from a company selling 500ppm CS.  I need all your
 valuable input please.  This is the reply from one Dr.  Lynn who owns the
 website (www.graywhalebotanicals.com) where she is selling it.

  I tend to follow clinical stuff and this is what I use:  clinical
 laboratory tests at Eastern Tennessee State University, Dept. of
 Microbiology, show that the level for effectiveness is at least 250 parts
 per
 million.  The 500 ppm is a clinical dosage and is only sold to licensed
 practitioners.  The 500 ppm is approved by the FDA and there is no known
 toxicity reported by the U.S. Poison Control Center. 

 The FDA approved this?  Is this Dr talking nonsense?

It sounds like it.



 If you have input and can specify links, that would be much appreciated.

 Thanks!

 Respectfully,
 Rich Adams
 rad...@kc.rr.com

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Re: CSPay-Pal Rejects my Web-site due to selling Illegal Products

2002-09-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
Because they are idiots.

Marshall

form...@aol.com wrote:

 How can CS be considered illegal if it's sold in retail stores?
 Summer


Re: CSPay-Pal Rejects my Web-site due to selling Illegal Products

2002-09-25 Thread Formedz
How can CS be considered illegal if it's sold in retail stores?
Summer


CSCS and gatoraide

2002-09-25 Thread Formedz
I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade improves assimilation.
Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does that, and is there some other 
option that drinking Gatorade?  
Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
Thanks,
Summer


CSweighing in

2002-09-25 Thread CKing001

Silver List

This group is a lot like family for me, so I find it hard to not pass on what I
find as vital or at least interesting information of some importance.

Remember our friend Dr Jon?
His latest project has been to acquire the modus operandi of a Swiss fat farm
that charges ten grand per client with apparently great results.

There is a multi supplement to take along with some strange procedures to
follow, therefore the fat camp regimen is probably the easiest way to assure
compliance.

I looked up all of the supplements and discovered that they were desirable for
heart health (one of my problems) so I could be induced to try them anyway.
The diet is not Atkins, but has similarities.

He has made the formula and plan available to volunteers to see if there is any
merit to it. Kinda half a**ed clinical trials.
Our  only obligation was to report results and how we complied or not with the
plan.

Now, personally, I'm a hard case. 
I have an opinion and I'm seldom shy with it.
I have had zero success in losing weight over the last three or four years since
retirement.
I refuse to exercise anymore. 15 years of 3X week martial arts is enough.
Especially since I started at age 45.
What part of retired is not understood?

I refuse to go hungry! Living well is the best revenge.

I started with this by acquiring the individual supplements and following, in
general, the plan.
Much to my surprise, I had an initial loss of six lbs the first week, with
another four gone over the following two weeks.
Horrid plateau time since then until today. When I weighed in, another five are
gone.
This whole span has been about six weeks. I am ecstatic and feel the need to
share!
I had not been able to move off the dime in 4 years, and now half my goal is
accomplished.

Dr Jon says that he has gotten enough positive feedback to warrant  continuing
the formula and opening it to the general public.
I said, public be damned, this goes to family.

Details for those interested at: http://www.swiss.9f.com
Do as you will.

Any discussion should go to the OT list. I wanted to make sure everybody saw
this though.

Errr... Jon bashers can look for the sprig of mistletoe.

Chuck
I don't exercise, it makes ice jump right out of my glass.


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Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-25 Thread mars larz

 
 form...@aol.com wrote:
I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade improves assimilation.
Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does that, and is there some other 
option that drinking Gatorade?  
Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
Thanks,
Summer 

I requested that sme information a month aago and got no answer.  Whats up with 
Gatorade and cs?   any body out there?


thank you


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CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread Reid Harvey
Rich and All,
Which is your question?  1.  Is the doctor talking nonsense about FDA
approval?, or is it,  2.  Additional to #1, is 500ppm CS nonsense?

If #1, I would agree that it sounds rather suspicious that the FDA would
specifically approve this kind of CS or anything other than CS as
nutritional suppliment.  On the other hand I would imagine FDA approval
could be construed by default if their acceptance of CS as nutritional
supliment has not been specified to a lower ppm.

If #2, I myself make highly concentrated CS at times and am aware that
some on this list are insistent that to produce this is not possible.
Some say that concentrated CS can only be made with the addition of some
chemical reagent, and I have found this not to be the case.  And some
have said ppm above about 50 leads to agglomeration.  This assertion has
also been proven untrue by others on the list.  Still others have stated
that concentrated CS is valuable for topical applications, and there are
also many indications that diluting high ppm CS for ingestion can lead
to highly beneficial results, notwithstanding large particle size.

In any event I am getting ahead of myself with my response.  Can you
tell me which is your question, #1 or #2?
Thanks and namaste from Kathmandu.
Reid

Rich Adams wrote:
This is a reply from a company selling 500ppm CS.  I need all your
valuable input please.  This is the reply from one Dr.  Lynn who owns
the
website (www.graywhalebotanicals.com) where she is selling it.


 I tend to follow clinical stuff and this is what I use:  clinical
laboratory tests at Eastern Tennessee State University, Dept. of
Microbiology, show that the level for effectiveness is at least 250
parts
per
million.  The 500 ppm is a clinical dosage and is only sold to licensed
practitioners.  The 500 ppm is approved by the FDA and there is no known

toxicity reported by the U.S. Poison Control Center. 


The FDA approved this?  Is this Dr talking nonsense?

If you have input and can specify links, that would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

Respectfully,
Rich Adams


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CSRe:CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread AScottSilver
I sent her the below email. Let's see if she answers...

Best wishes,
Andy (^_^)

Dear Dr. Schwartzman,

Your name and web site recently came up on a discussion group for colloidal 
silver. These people are not dummies. You state that your colloidal silver is 
500 ppm which is unheard of. This brings up two questions: What laboratory 
tested your colloidal silver and what is your doctorate in? The right answers 
would be very helpful to us, the wrong answers or no answer would be of 
interest to the FDA and the FTC.

Thank you for your time.
Andrew Scott
ascottsil...@aol.com


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CSGatorade Inquiries

2002-09-25 Thread J J

201 messages:

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=gatorade

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Re: CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread Rich Adams

- Original Message -
 Which is your question?  1.  Is the doctor talking nonsense about FDA
 approval?

Yes.

 2.  Additional to #1, is 500ppm CS nonsense?


I won't go into this, there are others more qualified then I that can
comment with, I assume, factual data.


Respectfully,
Rich Adams





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Re: CSCS and gatoraide

2002-09-25 Thread Formedz
I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could find no 
explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to the body.
Does anyone know please?

Summer


Re: CSRe:CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread SilverMedicine.org
Scott:

500 PPM is not unheard of, actually...  But, when the PPM is that high, it
is almost always silver compounds one is dealing with--  either ionic salts
or silver proteins.

Jason

- Original Message -
From: ascottsil...@aol.com
To: r...@kc.rr.com
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: CSRe:CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS


 I sent her the below email. Let's see if she answers...

 Best wishes,
 Andy (^_^)

 Dear Dr. Schwartzman,

 Your name and web site recently came up on a discussion group for
colloidal
 silver. These people are not dummies. You state that your colloidal silver
is
 500 ppm which is unheard of. This brings up two questions: What laboratory
 tested your colloidal silver and what is your doctorate in? The right
answers
 would be very helpful to us, the wrong answers or no answer would be of
 interest to the FDA and the FTC.

 Thank you for your time.
 Andrew Scott
 ascottsil...@aol.com


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Re: CSPay-Pal Rejects my Web-site due to selling Illegal Products

2002-09-25 Thread Martha N.
Hello,
I am wondering about selling some things on ebay through the ebay store.  I 
know this is off the subject of CS, so if you want to, could you email me 
privately?  I would be very interested in more information on how to open a 
store, and how much it will cost.?
Thank you,
MN
***

- Original Message - 
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSPay-Pal Rejects my Web-site due to selling Illegal Products


 Why mess with them?  Get a merchant account and accept credit cards
 instead.  That way you get to keep 98% of the money instead of only 91%, and
 you don't ahve to deal with the pay pal politics.
 
 Marshall
 
 silversw...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Just though I would drop a line about how things need
  to be changed.  I recently tried to register with
  PAY-PAL online shops to sub-mit my website for
  approval and they sent back two e-mails stating that
  my product is ILLEGAL in some states and Countries.
  Can anyone tell me what the %^$ is going on here!!  A
  copy of the E-mail is pasted below.
 
   Important Information Regarding Your Shop
 
  Dear Corbin Hanson,
 
  PayPal Shops contains a diverse group of online stores
 
  that accept PayPal as a method of payment.  Because
  laws vary from country to country and from state to
  state,
  we must consider the legality of the items or services
 
  you are selling both in your locality and in that of
  your customers.  What is legal in one country or state
 
  may not be in another.
 
  Your website has been removed from PayPal Shops
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CSRe: CS and Gatorade

2002-09-25 Thread J J

You read through ALL 201 messages in 50 minutes?

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=gatorade



-Original Message-
From: form...@aol.com [mailto:form...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide

I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could find no 
explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to the body.

Does anyone know please?

Summer






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Re: CSQuestion about new batches of CS?

2002-09-25 Thread Martha N.
Re: CSQuestion about new batches of CS?Hello,
Sometimes it takes me a little bit to get the information stuck in my head, 
but I understand now.  My husband read some of the emails and explained it to 
me.  Thank goodness for him.  :-)
My husband did get some distilled, but haven't made it yet like I was 
hoping to.  To much going on with our children's activities.  My husband will 
have time tomorrow though, and we are going to make some CS with the distilled 
water.  I did test the distilled water that he bought though.  It says 0 on the 
TDS meter.  It is the Ozarka Distilled Water from Wal-Mart.  So what we are 
going to do, is get the CS generator that he made started, and every so often 
check the ppm by the TDS tester.  
I will let yall know what we come up with.
Thank yall all so much for all the help that you have given me.  I really 
apreciate the help.
Martha
***

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Dayton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 5:56 PM
  Subject: Re: CSQuestion about new batches of CS?





From: Martha N. mnea...@earthlink.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 14:47:54 -0500
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuestion about new batches of CS?
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 12:45:57 -0700


  Why is there so much different in ppm of distilled or spring water that you 
buy?  I thought it was all suppose to say 0ppm??
  ***

  Martha you haven't been paying attention!
  There is no consideration between spring water
  and distilled --  ONLY use Distilled to make CS,
  and even then you can't be sure what you are buying.

  Spring water is usually fine for drinking, but
  never for making safe silver water.

  Jack




Re: CSPay-Pal Rejects my Web-site due to selling Illegal Products

2002-09-25 Thread Martha N.
Anytime the govt/FDA can get money from something, they are going to say that 
they can sell it, but that no one else can unless they have a license, 
degree, and other long list of things.  By then it is to expensive to legally 
sell the product by any one else. ***

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSPay-Pal Rejects my Web-site due to selling Illegal Products


  Because they are idiots. 
  Marshall 

  form...@aol.com wrote: 

How can CS be considered illegal if it's sold in retail stores? 
Summer


RE: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also

2002-09-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Brooks Bradley's research group hooked up a dog, gently and carefully, to a
real time blood sampler in a toe vein.  They carefully inserted a tube into
the dog's stomach and placed measured amounts of various solutions into the
dog's stomach.  CS, CS with MSM, etc.  Brooks wrote an informal report that
is in the archives.

When the following balance of Lactated Ringer's solution CS, and MSM was
used, the CS levels in the blood were 4 X that within the same time range as
when only CS was used .   Voila; near IV results without the poke.  Lactated
Ringer's solution is a standard water and electrolyte replacement solution
used commonly in modern medical practice.  It is most often administered IV.

Pedialyte (spelling?) is very similar, but unfortunately contains aspartame,
a deadly neurotoxin. It is used to orally hydrate babies with diarrhea and
other conditions that cause them to loose lots water and electrolytes.  I
used it to keep my kids out of the hospital on an IV on several occasions,
but will wait till someone makes a version w/o aspartame before using it
ever again.

 The electrolytes and MSM enhance transport of the CS into the vascular
system, and also through the cell walls.

Gatorade is essentially Lactated Ringer's solution with added color.  I have
seen a clear version.

You can get Lactated Ringer's at an animal feed store.  If you try to buy it
at a pharmacy you will need script---I say old boy, we can't have the
property treating itself without our cut and permission, can we?

All 4 leg animal meds are the same quality as biped meds; USP.  They just
cost less. You don't need to explain; just know what you want, the
quantities it comes in and an approximate reasonable price and ask for it.

Just don't act like a kid trying to buy amyl nitrate for, ...my uncle's
heart condition.  You are not a bad guy because you want to take some
responsibility for your own health decisions and pay less for the same
stuff.

Brooks' Ratio:

10 PPM [Same as Mg/L] Colloidal Silver.  More or less concentration  of the
CS is not critical.  One US fluid ounce.

[I don't really know, but I don't think anyone can make very-small-particle
high-Zeta CS much above about 20 PPM because of the nature of it.  Closer
particles hit and stick more often, making bigger ones. This may have
changed. The people with the most experience say 5 PPM works just fine.
I avoid MSP because of the rumors that it is associated with Argyria. ]

Ringers Lactate:  Three ounces.

MSM:  1/4 teaspoon.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: mars larz [mailto:pp...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:03 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide /i am curious about that also




   form...@aol.com wrote:

I've read here that taking CS with Gatorade improves assimilation.
Why is that?  What's in the Gatorade that does that, and is there some
other option that drinking Gatorade?
Also, how much Gatorade to how much CS?
Thanks,
Summer

I requested that sme information a month aago and got no answer.  Whats
up with Gatorade and cs?  any body out there?



  thank you





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CSUnidentified subject!

2002-09-25 Thread J J

Summer, and all who asked:

Try this message.

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m8166.html

JJ

**  Reformated Quote  

Re: CSblue

From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author)
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:12:05

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Hello Vilik.

Lactated Ringer's is a manufactured, balanced fluid electrolyte)
solution (primarily composed of sodium, potassium, phosphorous,
calcium, magnesium and chlorine) in a composition very similar to that
of extracellular fluid. It has been used most successfully for
rehydration caused by deprivation of water, dysentery, shock trauma,
etc. Lactated Ringer's is close to the serum fraction of human blood,
less the red-cell components. It is quite difficult for me to conceive
of a person being allergic to Ringer's solution, since without the
substances and balanced properties therein, humans can not
survive---for long.

Sincerely. Brooks Bradley.

P.S Gatorade, is a trade name for a solution developed about 25 years
ago by a physician named Robert Cade. He developed it as a rehydration
protocol for the U. of Florida football team (hence the Gator prefix
in the name). It was very successful and a law suit followed between
Cade and the University over the rights. Gatorade contains glucose in
a percentage optimum for absorption through the alimentary epithelial
tissue (wall linings). Gatorade is absorbed approximately 11 times
more rapidly that plain tap water. Gatorade is, almost, as rapid
acting as IV administered Ringer's.



-Original Message-
From: form...@aol.com [mailto:form...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide

I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could
find no explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to 
the body.

Does anyone know please?

Summer






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RE: CSRe:CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS

2002-09-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
You could have been a little less threatening.

James-Osbourne: Holmes


-Original Message-
From: ascottsil...@aol.com [mailto:ascottsil...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 9:26 PM
To: r...@kc.rr.com
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe:CSreply from a company selling 500ppm CS


I sent her the below email. Let's see if she answers...

Best wishes,
Andy (^_^)

Dear Dr. Schwartzman,

Your name and web site recently came up on a discussion group for colloidal
silver. These people are not dummies. You state that your colloidal silver
is
500 ppm which is unheard of. This brings up two questions: What laboratory
tested your colloidal silver and what is your doctorate in? The right
answers
would be very helpful to us, the wrong answers or no answer would be of
interest to the FDA and the FTC.

Thank you for your time.
Andrew Scott
ascottsil...@aol.com


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RE: CSCS and gatoraide

2002-09-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
A good question for a molecular biologist with a minor in physical
chemistry.  I wish we had one that would descend to this list.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: form...@aol.com [mailto:form...@aol.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:33 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide


  I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could find no
explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to the body.
  Does anyone know please?

  Summer


CSMildly coded instructional doggerel

2002-09-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Water is a delicate matter
when you start to brew and splatter
your kitchen or your workshop wall
with sols of silver, one and all.

If its got too much init
it will double in a minit.

Golf balls, say the sages,
who have been brewing  all these ages;

You must control the conductivity
or you sliver will be mud
and fall to bottom with a  thud.

Total TDS they say
is just another way to say
what will turn the amps away

Some call it by a different name
to play the prestige jargon game.

But TDS or micro sems,
too much makes gross;
 too little stems
the cubic bits that try to swim.

Water from a spring for sure
beats water from the tap (a sewer)

But until you dip your probe
you don't know what the wet has in it  [1]
probably enough to sin it
no matter from where the waters spewer.

AC DC; sex or brewing
today is often quite confusin

If you DC you must limit
or quickly there will be too much in it.

Get your current in control
and stay off the MD's reverse dole

If you do it AC too
Just keep your cones up or you're screwed

Don't worry if all  that you can do
is find a nine volt batt or two,  [2]
Strung in series and from a glass
 with well hung 12 gauge wire, alas;
 no never mind
to those who say big bucks required
to make sol true

Space 1/4 inch between and turn the simple  sucker on
 In less than 60 you will find gold
that croaks the evil yeasts and mold

Bacteria too of all the stripes
They see the micelle coming and they all scream
Yikes!

Some virons suffer similar fate,
if you get silver before too late

Stuff that's made this simple way
 does not last for many a day
but does the job in the pathogen fray

Remember when you brew this tool
there seem to be a general rule
that big is bad and small is cool [3]

[1] This is a generally applicable principle.
[2] Actually, three.
[3] Some say about 1/2 to 10 nm.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
Disclaimer: The foregoing is not medical advice; only a fool would pay any
attention to any of it.



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