Re: CSpurification of water

2005-01-07 Thread himagain

At 04:05 AM 07/01/05, Sol wrote:


I'd also like to know what the other two are, if anyone knows or can find out.
TIA,
sol

At 10:16 AM 1/6/2005, Matthew McCann wrote:

...Iodine is one of the three best antiseptics...

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Re: CSHepatitus-B aided by EIS/CS?

2005-01-07 Thread himagain

At 04:07 AM 07/01/05, you wrote:


To all you wonderful posters here in the USA and abroad I post this
question.  I received a call from my oldest daughter living in Virginia.
She informed me that she has Hepatitus-B, and has undergone several
clinical trials with new drugs.  Her doctors had her on Interferon for
awhile which helped only for a short time.  During the testing of dif-
ferent protocols her Thyroid was all but destroyed(now taking Thyroid
pills.).


Hi there,
Hep-B is not as dangerous as the pharma-pr-machine makes out, just the same 
as with Cancer. That is the good news.
The bad is that her system has been pretty well totalled by the deadly 
intoxication she has undergone.
More good news is that - although her fun-time party days are well and 
truly over - if she goes to a strict diet regime - a truly strict food 
combining practise diet, ( totally misnamed as the whole point of it is to 
*not* combine acid and alkaline foods in the same meal) the results are 
often quite amazing.

Key factors in recovery/repair ( from ANY symptoms):
No white anything ever again:  flour, sugar, cakes,
No booze, no coffee,  no meat, no processed dairy foods.
Virtually nothing that is fun or convenient foods,  or 
manufactured/processed outside the home.


Works for cancer.  Works for MS.  CFS.  Lyme, etc.

Best wishes to you and your daughter.
Himagain
Please note:  Nothing said here is to be construed as legalised medical 
advice. You must as always, exercise due diligence. My information is based 
on what is called anecdotal data ( not approved by the Medical Industry) 
merely gained in running a large successful Cancer recovery group for many 
years and personally recovering from two forms of Cancer :  both a 
self-induced and industrial.  Both terminal. ( 12 weeks prognosis). 20-odd 
years ago.



  



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Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread Ode Coyote
   Silver has been found in the brains of cadavers.  It got there somehow.
Silver cupro staining is used to detect nerve damage. It has an affinity for damaged nerve tissues over healthy ones.
Some may misconstrue that as an indication that silver 'caused' the damage to the cadaver.

Reports from Herpies people say that small amounts of CS taken daily stops the occurrance of outbreaks, but does not cure the disease.
Herpies hides inside nerve cells... without harming them [???]
Silver has an affinity for damaged nerve cells.
The brain has about the best blood circulation system in the whole body and it's very easy to intoxicate the brain. There doesn't seem to be any elves sorting substances out in the entry ways.
Therefore, it stands to reason that a barrier would be a cell by cell affair common to all healthy nerve tissue but not unhealthy nerve tissue.

If the blood brain barrier is not a complete myth, it's at least not a perfect barrier and may well be a 'selective' barrier channeling CS only to where it's needed.

My friend with brain cancer died last summer.  His wife said he went down hill faster after drinking a lot of CS every day.
Too little too late? Too much too late? Just plain too late?  No effect one way or the other...Sheer coincidence?
He had the tumor for 5 years before trying CS and was already sliding fast.
I dunno.

I do know..He was building his wife and kid a new house by himself. When he got so he couldn't move right, many contractors brought their crews over for vounteer weekend building marathons and the house was DONE..for free..just before my friend died.
The place looked like an ant colony with scaffolds and ladder rack trucks clogging the yard every weekend, all weekend, from dawn to dark for 3 months. [ But each side and section of the house looks just a little bit different to a knowing eye.]
Pretty darned impressive.
Ode

At 10:08 PM 1/6/2005 -0500, you wrote:
 
i believe that silver is not supposed to cross the blood/brain barrier as it has
been called toxic. certainly adding a little dmso to silver will allow it to penetrate
deeper if that is possible.
On Jan 6, 2005, at 1:09 PM, fl...@aol.com wrote:

Hello All,
 
I finally got a CS generator (Silverpuppy) and need input as far as the best method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

 
Thanks From N.E. Oklahoma,

Dana 



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RE: CSpurification of water

2005-01-07 Thread Jim Wright (Lists)
Personally, I use a reverse osmosis set-up to purify (remove stuff
from city processed water) my drinking water. Then I run it through a
funnel twice with two magnets mounted with opposing poles to
re-invigorate it. When I run the osmosis process I always put an
ounce of EIS per gallon (US) in the jug that receives it so that I
get an ounce of EIS in every gallon I drink. I usually consume about
a gallon a day so that EIS becomes a daily maintenance dose. It seems
to work well for me.

Jim Wright

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Subject: Re: CSpurification of water

At 04:05 AM 07/01/05, Sol wrote:

I'd also like to know what the other two are, if anyone knows or can
find out.
TIA,
sol

At 10:16 AM 1/6/2005, Matthew McCann wrote:
...Iodine is one of the three best antiseptics...
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Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 1/7/05 9:30:23 AM Central Standard Time, 
odecoy...@alltel.net writes:


Silver has been found in the brains of cadavers.  It got there
 somehow.

and:  Silver has an affinity for damaged nerve cells.

I'm glad you said that Ken.  I sat on my hands.  We use Colloidal Silver to 
treat our EPM horses.  And in order for the CS to be effective, it MUST pass 
the blood/brain barrier -- as the protozoa have done so in order to cause the 
horse to be sick in the first place.  MA


Re: CSHepatitus-B aided by EIS/CS?

2005-01-07 Thread PanAmPete
Happy New years to you and your wife also Dr Harris!  I did go to  the
G/B site, but was overcome by all the complexity it involved.  I  would
like to order said machine, but in a finished mode. What exactly does
it do, and does it hurt to have the electricity pass through one's  body?
I do make my own EIS which has great clarity and 10-12PPM which I
am sending to my daughter.  She has quit her job because the  strain
on her health and welfare has been to much for her to bear.  I  am
hoping that once she gets the EIS and G/B that she will overcome  her
problem.Her husband has been bearing with her, but is also feeling  the
strain.Thank you,  Pete


Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread Jason
Greetings, all:

In my opinion, the three best methods for the potential delivery of EIS into 
the brain:

1.  IV using a medical grade product

2.  Nebulizing

3.  Holding the CS in the mouth, often, for sublingual adsorption.

Best Regards,

Jason


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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:52 AM
  Subject: Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?


  In a message dated 1/7/05 9:30:23 AM Central Standard Time, 
odecoy...@alltel.net writes:



   Silver has been found in the brains of cadavers.  It got there
somehow.


  and:  Silver has an affinity for damaged nerve cells.

  I'm glad you said that Ken.  I sat on my hands.  We use Colloidal Silver to 
treat our EPM horses.  And in order for the CS to be effective, it MUST pass 
the blood/brain barrier -- as the protozoa have done so in order to cause the 
horse to be sick in the first place.  MA



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Re: CSHepatitus-B aided by EIS/CS?

2005-01-07 Thread PanAmPete
 
In a message dated 1/6/05 11:01:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
khann...@yahoo.com writes:

Pete,
 
For the HepatitisB, I can't recommend Transfer Factor highly  enough.  It has 
saved several of my friends from terminal cancer and also  has a good track 
record with HepB.  
CS shouldn't hurt  either, since it's cooling and Hepatitis creates 
conditions of heat.
 
Sally

panamp...@aol.com wrote:

To all you wonderful posters here in the USA and abroad I post  this
question.  I received a call from my oldest daughter living in  Virginia.
She informed me that she has Hepatitus-B, and has undergone  several
clinical trials with new drugs.  Her doctors had her on  Interferon for
awhile which helped only for a short time.  During the testing of  dif-
ferent protocols her Thyroid was all but destroyed(now taking  Thyroid
pills.).  Her doctors are not giving her a favourable diagnosis  and she
had to give up her job.  Does anyone know if EIS or CS would be  ben- 
   eficial to her condition?  Any insight would be genuinely  
appreciated!
The doctors said her liver is also under a grave attack. She is  emotion-
ally and physically spent and turned to me for answers which I  have
none to  offer.Thanks,  Pete

 

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The _all-new My _ (http://my.yahoo.com/) 


Thanks Sally,
I will pass this info on to my daughter also. I am trying not to  over-burden
her at the present as she is not employed due to her condition.  I am  trying
to soften the load by sending her my EIS, but I am handicapped and  semi-
retired so all the remedies I've seen are not currently available due to  
cost.
I deeply appreciate all the input you and others have offered, and  hopefully 
this info will bring her to complete recovery.
   Thank you,  Pete


CSfoot problems

2005-01-07 Thread Shirley Reed

   What do you think about Finn Comfort shoes? 
Other than that they are kinda expensive?  Their
sandals have been heaven for me.  The insert is
usually replaced after about 6 months.  The
metatarsal arch support is what had been missing
in most other shoes.  So tons of money went for
orthotic devices--Feathersprings, Good Feet
store, and otc stuff.  If the second toe is
longer than the big toe, then we need the
metatarsal support.  Was nearly 60 before I
discovered this!!Re the Birkies--those ridges
under the toes have made me back off from
them--they always hurt.  Wondering if I made a
mistake.   pj



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Re: CSHepatitus-B aided by EIS/CS?

2005-01-07 Thread PanAmPete
In a message dated 1/7/05 12:34:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
himag...@fablor.com writes:

At 04:07  AM 07/01/05, you wrote:

To all you wonderful posters here in the  USA and abroad I post this
question.  I received a call from my  oldest daughter living in Virginia.
She informed me that she has  Hepatitus-B, and has undergone several
clinical trials with new  drugs.  Her doctors had her on Interferon for
awhile which  helped only for a short time.  During the testing of dif-
ferent  protocols her Thyroid was all but destroyed(now taking  Thyroid
pills.).

Hi there,
Hep-B is not as dangerous as the  pharma-pr-machine makes out, just the same 
as with Cancer. That is the  good news.
The bad is that her system has been pretty well totalled by the  deadly 
intoxication she has undergone.
More good news is that -  although her fun-time party days are well and 
truly over - if she goes to  a strict diet regime - a truly strict food 
combining practise diet, (  totally misnamed as the whole point of it is to 
*not* combine acid and  alkaline foods in the same meal) the results are 
often quite  amazing.
Key factors in recovery/repair ( from ANY symptoms):
No white  anything ever again:  flour, sugar, cakes,
No booze, no coffee,   no meat, no processed dairy foods.
Virtually nothing that is fun or  convenient foods,  or 
manufactured/processed outside the  home.

Works for cancer.  Works for MS.  CFS.  Lyme,  etc.

Best wishes to you and your daughter.
Himagain
Please  note:  Nothing said here is to be construed as legalised medical  
advice. You must as always, exercise due diligence. My information is  based 
on what is called anecdotal data ( not approved by the Medical  Industry) 
merely gained in running a large successful Cancer recovery  group for many 
years and personally recovering from two forms of Cancer  :  both a 
self-induced and industrial.  Both terminal. ( 12  weeks prognosis). 20-odd 
years ago.





Thanks Him!
I'm not sure she will abide by this strict diet menu, but it is  surely
worth a try, especially for an expedient recovery!
 Thank you, Pete





Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread sol
Evidence from one person that herpes simplex does damage nerve tissue: my 
husband, now 58 has had herpes simplex since childhood. Always causing cold 
sores in the same quarter size area of his face just beside and slightly 
above his upper lip. For most of that time he always knew, from the nerve 
tingle when the virus was about to break out. In the past 3 or 4 years 
though there is no longer any warning nerve tingle. Leads me to believe the 
nerves the virus travels to the skin surface have indeed been damaged, as 
they no longer react.

sol

At 07:05 AM 1/7/2005, you wrote:


Herpies hides inside nerve cells... without harming them [???]
Silver has an affinity for damaged nerve cells.




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Re: CSHepatitus-B aided by EIS/CS?

2005-01-07 Thread Jason
Hi Pete:

Hep B is easier to knock out than Hep C.

If one is willing to learn how to make real herbal decoctions and concoctions, 
then I recommend finding a book called Earth Cures, also titled Our Earth 
Our Cure, by Raymond Dextreit.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/080651888X/103-5854313-5057467?v=glancest=*

Unfortunately, at the moment, the book is not in print.  The demand for the 
book, however, shows in its current selling price, nearly $200.00.

http://www.insight-books.com/NTR1/080651888x.html

These folks may still have a copy in stock.

The herbal formulations for liver support are the ones I used when a friend was 
diagnosed with Hep B when attempting to donate blood.

Three weeks after following Raymond's formulas, a subsequent blood test showed 
NEGATIVE for the virus.

However, keep in mind that this particular case was not accute.

Although Raymond is survived by his daughter in France, she doesn't share the 
same interests as Raymond.  I suspect the publisher will eventually be printing 
a new edition.

Best Regards,

Jason

  - Original Message - 
  From: panamp...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:54 AM
  Subject: Re: CSHepatitus-B aided by EIS/CS?


  In a message dated 1/7/05 12:34:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
himag...@fablor.com writes:
At 04:07 AM 07/01/05, you wrote:

To all you wonderful posters here in the USA and abroad I post this
question.  I received a call from my oldest daughter living in Virginia.
She informed me that she has Hepatitus-B, and has undergone several
clinical trials with new drugs.  Her doctors had her on Interferon for
awhile which helped only for a short time.  During the testing of dif-
ferent protocols her Thyroid was all but destroyed(now taking Thyroid
pills.).

Hi there,
Hep-B is not as dangerous as the pharma-pr-machine makes out, just the same 
as with Cancer. That is the good news.
The bad is that her system has been pretty well totalled by the deadly 
intoxication she has undergone.
More good news is that - although her fun-time party days are well and 
truly over - if she goes to a strict diet regime - a truly strict food 
combining practise diet, ( totally misnamed as the whole point of it is to 
*not* combine acid and alkaline foods in the same meal) the results are 
often quite amazing.
Key factors in recovery/repair ( from ANY symptoms):
No white anything ever again:  flour, sugar, cakes,
No booze, no coffee,  no meat, no processed dairy foods.
Virtually nothing that is fun or convenient foods,  or 
manufactured/processed outside the home.

Works for cancer.  Works for MS.  CFS.  Lyme, etc.

Best wishes to you and your daughter.
Himagain
Please note:  Nothing said here is to be construed as legalised medical 
advice. You must as always, exercise due diligence. My information is based 
on what is called anecdotal data ( not approved by the Medical Industry) 
merely gained in running a large successful Cancer recovery group for many 
years and personally recovering from two forms of Cancer :  both a 
self-induced and industrial.  Both terminal. ( 12 weeks prognosis). 20-odd 
years ago.


   


Thanks Him!
  I'm not sure she will abide by this strict diet menu, but it is surely
  worth a try, especially for an expedient recovery!
  Thank you, Pete

 


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Re: CSfoot problems

2005-01-07 Thread sol
Birkenstocks are about the only thing available to me. Thanks for the brand 
mentions, might be worth it for me to take a look at the ones you mentioned.
But the birkenstock blue inserts fixed my plantar fasciitis just fine at 
$49 a pair. I wear them even in my house slippers.


For the birkenstock shoes with those toe ridges, which hurt me also, I took 
a large slant tipped chisel and a hammer and flattened them out. Worked a 
treat. It would be nice to find a shoe with the heel and arch support 
without those nasty ridges under the toes. (my second toe is longer than my 
big toe too)

sol

At 10:52 AM 1/7/2005, you wrote:


  If the second toe is
longer than the big toe, then we need the
metatarsal support.  Was nearly 60 before I
discovered this!!Re the Birkies--those ridges
under the toes have made me back off from
them--they always hurt.  Wondering if I made a
mistake.   pj





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CSDr. Beck vs. Dr. Clark

2005-01-07 Thread C. Hatzfeld
I'm not understanding the difference in the various machines talked about.  
There's the Dr. Beck's Pulser, the Dr. Clark's Zapper, and there's a Tens 
Machine.  One site (noted below) had several of these for sale, and indicated 
the different frequencies.  Can anyone explain if there is any real difference 
in final outcome or are these all pretty much the same. 

Thanks in advance,

Cindy
  

Frequencies of 4Hz, 16Hz and 100Hz selectable for use as Dr. Beck's Pulser with 
built-in digital timers.

Frequencies of 2128Hz, 10kHz and 30kHz selectable with a pre-programmed zapper 
sequence for use as Dr. Clark's Zapper.

http://www.myholistichealthshop.com/zapper.html
  Dr. Bob BECK, one of the CS developing Giants (recently deceased) declared 
that by using his Protocol (available from SOTA Instruments, 
Inc.--1-800-224-0242). Also, V at v...@powerlessons.net makes a marvelous 
Godzilla/BECK zapper/ziller 

RE: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread Yogiboy
Hi Sol,

Ok, there might be some truth to this because I get them on my nose and
if I'm not mistaken have told my doctor that I didn't get any warning
signs. I still get them and wondered what dosage if you'd know what help
alleviate herpes from the system. I have read that CS does eradicate it.
Or if anyone out there knows..:-)

Thanks Ernie

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From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

Evidence from one person that herpes simplex does damage nerve tissue:
my 
husband, now 58 has had herpes simplex since childhood. Always causing
cold 
sores in the same quarter size area of his face just beside and slightly

above his upper lip. For most of that time he always knew, from the
nerve 
tingle when the virus was about to break out. In the past 3 or 4 years 
though there is no longer any warning nerve tingle. Leads me to believe
the 
nerves the virus travels to the skin surface have indeed been damaged,
as 
they no longer react.
sol





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CSwater, water, everywhere

2005-01-07 Thread himagain


Hi people,
With the talk of aiding the people who were caught in the Tsunami event, a 
lot of talk has been about purifying the drinking water.  The simple truth 
is that their normal dirty water is a lot safer than yours.
I was just about to follow up on the propaganda about Chlorines when this 
arrived in  the

Friday January 07, 2005  issue  of  Dr. Douglass' Real Health Breakthroughs.
Saved me writing it to remind you. :-)
-
You've heard me railing about all the poisonous stuff the
government puts in our public drinking water — fluoride,
especially. Don't even get me started on how this darling of
the mainstream is actually nothing more than toxic waste
(once used as a rat poison) that doesn't even help your teeth!
But fluoride's not the only poison Americans are ingesting in
the vast majority of the country's public water systems — not
by a long shot.

Chlorine is another major toxin (it used to be employed as a
chemical weapon, in fact) that the bureaucrats are pumping
into our water in the name of our health. Supposedly,
chlorine keeps water supplies clean and free of many harmful
bacteria. While this may well be the case in swimming pools,
in the aging pipes and pumping stations most of our country
uses to disperse public water, this harmless chemical can
interact with small quantities of organic matter to produce
some really nasty toxins — including carcinogens chloroform
and DCA (dichloro-acedic acid).

I know — you've heard all of this from me before. But here's
something you likely haven't heard: Some municipalities in
the U.S. are starting to realize that chlorine's byproducts are
a health hazard, and are implementing alternatives for water
treatment...

Hooray, right?

Not quite. According to a recent Reuters article, a new study
suggests that one class of chlorine substitute used in some
U.S. cities' water supplies can produce byproducts that may
be EVEN MORE TOXIC than those produced by garden-
variety chlorine. Called chloramines (they're a blend of
chlorine and ammonia), these substitutes may be linked to a
family of chemicals called iodoacids, which have been shown
to be up to 300 times more toxic than chlorine byproducts in
laboratory animals.

What's even more disconcerting than this is the fact that only
an estimated 30% of the byproducts of chlorine alternatives
have even been studied for their toxic effects. That means the
government's been adding chemicals to our water that it
doesn't even know how will they affect us. Essentially, we're
the guinea pigs in a huge poison study. Of course, that's
nothing new, considering the fluoride and chlorine we've
already been drinking, bathing, and washing our dishes in for
the last 40 or 50 years.

According to the article, the EPA plans to monitor the effects
of these disinfection agents, but. has no plans to 
regulate the

chemicals at this time.
--
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Himagain.   Who keeps forgetting how many chronic ailments are 
helped/removed simply by stopping drinking/washing/showering in that sort 
of stuff.  




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CSherpes treatment was RE: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread sol
My husband's herpes treatment protocol has evolved over the years and here 
is what he is doing now, which is the best yet:


As soon as the sore is noticed he starts applying 50/50 CS/DMSO on it 
several times per day with a Q-tip.
In addition he takes 50 mg of a good B-complex supplement, 1 to 10 gm of 
vit C, 4 to 1200 IU vit E, 50 mg zinc, and 1500 mg of Lysine (500 mg 3 
times a day).


The sores are dried up and forming no new blisters quickly, usually within 
3 days. Completely healed in less than a week. If one starts when he is 
home over a weekend and can treat it with the CS/DMSO immediately and 
frequently it usually is completely gone in 3 days, if one starts on a 
workday, and he has to wait 10 hours to start treatment, it can take up to 
a week, but they stop forming new blisters and dry up right away in either 
case. I have heard of people using the CS/DSMO on herpes and gradually 
outbreaks became less and less, even finally stopping altogether, but that 
hasn't happened to my DH yet. He has only had 2 or 3 that have had the 
CS/DMSO used on them though. Before that he was using a combination of 
essential oils I made up, which also worked, but not as fast or as well as 
the CS/DMSO, and was a lot messier, too.


In the past when he got the warning tingles, before the nerves stopped 
sending signals,  he could start the supplement regimen and stop a sore 
from breaking out at all most times.


Arginine stimulates the herpes so he takes Lysine whenever he eats high 
arginine foods, as a preventative. Nuts and whole grains and chocolate are 
all high arginine.

sol

At 12:50 PM 1/7/2005, you wrote:

Hi Sol,

Ok, there might be some truth to this because I get them on my nose and
if I'm not mistaken have told my doctor that I didn't get any warning
signs. I still get them and wondered what dosage if you'd know what help
alleviate herpes from the system. I have read that CS does eradicate it.
Or if anyone out there knows..:-)

Thanks Ernie




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Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread himagain

At 12:05 AM 08/01/05, Ode wrote:

My friend with brain cancer died last summer.  His wife said he went down 
hill faster after drinking a lot of CS every day.
Too little too late? Too much too late? Just plain too late?  No effect 
one way or the other...Sheer coincidence?

He had the tumor for 5 years before trying CS and was already sliding fast.
I dunno.


Hi Ode and folks,
One of the tragedies of modern life is the expectation of a 
magic-all-forgiving-pill that will fix not only existing damage, but 
counteract ongoing infliction of damage by actions that caused the symptoms 
in the first place.


As I've said many times,  the repair function and effort required by such a 
virtual total collapse of the body as in Cancer, Ms, Lyme  etc. requires a 
Mind, Body, Spirit approach.
Of the almost  thousand hopeless Cancer cases I watched and helped 
recover and my personal experience, every single one of them 
accepted  massive lifestyle changes.
Of the many, many thousands more that contacted us and elected to take an 
easier route there were no survivors known.  The Medical Industry even 
admits that any accurately diagnosed Cancer is a death sentence.  Their 
version of a cure is to live more than 4 years after diagnosis.


Of the many mis-diagnosed that don't accept the horror treatments, most can 
recover from whatever got them, but once treatment is undertaken, that 
would appear to be the final insult to the body.

I know of no survivors that underwent the long horrific treatment. Not one.

Just recently on TV in Oz a British show was run about the awful lives of 
Cancer patients and the Dr in charge of the project flatly said that if he 
contracted Cancer he would not elect treatment for it, himself, but the 
decision is up to the patient...


Himagain.  BTW:  The numbers are up again: quote:   One in two males can 
expect to get Cancer and one in three women. 

It was officially only one-in-four 5 years ago...



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RE: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread Yogiboy
Hi Himagain,

I have heard of such things.
I have a friend who's mother had brain cancer and didn't know until she
actually quit smoking. The quitting cold turkey triggered her body into
a state of rapid detox, which accelerated the spreading disease into the
likely place of her smoking, which were her lungs. Oddly enough we
thought maybe she should have never quit to begin with. This might have
bought her some time. This of course, wasn't immediately noticed and
took some time to occur. Doctor's speculated this is what happened after
she quit.

Just thought I'd share this with the group.

Ernie. 

-Original Message-
From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

At 12:05 AM 08/01/05, Ode wrote:

My friend with brain cancer died last summer.  His wife said he went
down 
hill faster after drinking a lot of CS every day.
Too little too late? Too much too late? Just plain too late?  No effect

one way or the other...Sheer coincidence?
He had the tumor for 5 years before trying CS and was already sliding
fast.
I dunno.

Hi Ode and folks,
One of the tragedies of modern life is the expectation of a 
magic-all-forgiving-pill that will fix not only existing damage, but 
counteract ongoing infliction of damage by actions that caused the
symptoms 
in the first place.

As I've said many times,  the repair function and effort required by
such a 
virtual total collapse of the body as in Cancer, Ms, Lyme  etc. requires
a 
Mind, Body, Spirit approach.
Of the almost  thousand hopeless Cancer cases I watched and helped 
recover and my personal experience, every single one of them 
accepted  massive lifestyle changes.
Of the many, many thousands more that contacted us and elected to take
an 
easier route there were no survivors known.  The Medical Industry even

admits that any accurately diagnosed Cancer is a death sentence.  Their 
version of a cure is to live more than 4 years after diagnosis.

Of the many mis-diagnosed that don't accept the horror treatments, most
can 
recover from whatever got them, but once treatment is undertaken, that

would appear to be the final insult to the body.
I know of no survivors that underwent the long horrific treatment. Not
one.

Just recently on TV in Oz a British show was run about the awful lives
of 
Cancer patients and the Dr in charge of the project flatly said that if
he 
contracted Cancer he would not elect treatment for it, himself, but
the 
decision is up to the patient...

Himagain.  BTW:  The numbers are up again: quote:   One in two males
can 
expect to get Cancer and one in three women. 
It was officially only one-in-four 5 years ago...



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RE: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

2005-01-07 Thread Yogiboy
Just to add,

I have to agree that long term conventional treatment to cancer is
pretty much down hill. I watched my father who was given 6mths-1 yr to
live managed to go 3 years but with great suffering. The human body can
amazingly endure abuse. But it's only a matter of time. My personal
friend also passed on last 2 years ago from 10 years of re-occuring
treatment which in many cases beat the crap out of her. She was a
trooper but sadly it finally took her.

Lance Armstrong beat testicular cancer last year I believe. He went with
conventional treatment. I don't know for sure if it was complemented (
lack of better word ) with homeopathy.


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From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBest method to get CS past the blood/brain barrier?

At 12:05 AM 08/01/05, Ode wrote:

My friend with brain cancer died last summer.  His wife said he went
down 
hill faster after drinking a lot of CS every day.
Too little too late? Too much too late? Just plain too late?  No effect

one way or the other...Sheer coincidence?
He had the tumor for 5 years before trying CS and was already sliding
fast.
I dunno.

Hi Ode and folks,
One of the tragedies of modern life is the expectation of a 
magic-all-forgiving-pill that will fix not only existing damage, but 
counteract ongoing infliction of damage by actions that caused the
symptoms 
in the first place.

As I've said many times,  the repair function and effort required by
such a 
virtual total collapse of the body as in Cancer, Ms, Lyme  etc. requires
a 
Mind, Body, Spirit approach.
Of the almost  thousand hopeless Cancer cases I watched and helped 
recover and my personal experience, every single one of them 
accepted  massive lifestyle changes.
Of the many, many thousands more that contacted us and elected to take
an 
easier route there were no survivors known.  The Medical Industry even

admits that any accurately diagnosed Cancer is a death sentence.  Their 
version of a cure is to live more than 4 years after diagnosis.

Of the many mis-diagnosed that don't accept the horror treatments, most
can 
recover from whatever got them, but once treatment is undertaken, that

would appear to be the final insult to the body.
I know of no survivors that underwent the long horrific treatment. Not
one.

Just recently on TV in Oz a British show was run about the awful lives
of 
Cancer patients and the Dr in charge of the project flatly said that if
he 
contracted Cancer he would not elect treatment for it, himself, but
the 
decision is up to the patient...

Himagain.  BTW:  The numbers are up again: quote:   One in two males
can 
expect to get Cancer and one in three women. 
It was officially only one-in-four 5 years ago...



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RE: CSwater, water, everywhere

2005-01-07 Thread Louise
Well here in Ontario the government has decided that our wells should have
chlorine added

I moved out to the country to avoid chlorine (they have been adding
chloramines here in the water in Ottawa water treatment for years, I remind
people that it kills fish and they drink it!!!

But now they are going to insist even organic gardeners add chlorine to
their wells to wash their veggies before selling.  But I am chlorine
intolerant so  that will not be good for me.  Hey if I wash anything in
Chlorine even 14 washes later in plain water and tolerated soap I can still
smell it.  So I do not use it to wash my clothes with for sure or anything
else.

I use CS for just about anything that needs disinfecting for sure.

The farmers are up in arms about their touching their wells, but with this
government I can see them pushing this thought.  I believe they do want us
to be sicker and sicker with the lowering of vitamins, more and more
additives and more drugs used for every little ache and pain. Flue vaccines
for everyone and vaccinating babies just days old!!! for an illness they
could test if the mother has in the first place.  Wonder why there is so
much chronic illness, you do not have to wonder anymore the government is
great at seeing that you have all the best additives and vaccines out there
to make sure you have a LOT of chronic illness.

Louise



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Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSwater, water, everywhere



Hi people,
snip

Chlorine is another major toxin (it used to be employed as a
chemical weapon, in fact) that the bureaucrats are pumping
into our water in the name of our health. Supposedly,
chlorine keeps water supplies clean and free of many harmful
bacteria. While this may well be the case in swimming pools,
in the aging pipes and pumping stations most of our country
uses to disperse public water, this harmless chemical can
interact with small quantities of organic matter to produce
some really nasty toxins — including carcinogens chloroform
and DCA (dichloro-acedic acid).

I know — you've heard all of this from me before. But here's
something you likely haven't heard: Some municipalities in
the U.S. are starting to realize that chlorine's byproducts are
a health hazard, and are implementing alternatives for water
treatment...

Hooray, right?
snip



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Re: CSwater, water, everywhere

2005-01-07 Thread Christine Carleton
Ontario? ...  Check out:  http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/8/mycoplasma.htm

Christine

 From: Louise lou...@raw-connections.com

 Well here in Ontario the government has decided that our wells should have
 chlorine added


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Re: CSpurification of water

2005-01-07 Thread Tony Moody
Jonathan,
You could try a hiking shop for the iodine water treatment crystals.

Uhh. Sodium chloride, is table salt.!!
Tony

On 6 Jan 2005 at 11:00, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 I read yesterday that 200,000 liters of sodium chloride have been
 distributed in Indonesia;  this is enough to purify water for one
 million persons, the article said.   I am totally unfamiliar with
 sodium chloride,  but this is what is on the scene.
 
 I still want to get a supply of those resublimated iodine crystals
 mentioned below,  but I have not yet stumbled on a source of them.
 
 JBB
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thursday, Jan 6, 2005, at 09:43 Asia/Tokyo, himagain wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
  I clipped this from this very list some unknown time ago - very
  fascinating in the light of the Tsunami tragedy.
  --- From(Principles of
  Pharmacy--Arny-Fischeles). From Remington's Pharmaceutical Sciences
  17th edition: Iodine is one of the three best all-around
  antiseptics. It is active against bacteria, fungi, yeasts, protozoa,
  and viruses. Iodine may be used to purify drinking water. 5 to 10
  drops of 2% iodine tincture to a quart of water left for 1 hr. is
  both amebacidal and bactericidal. Some communities use iodine in
  lieu of chlorine for water purification because organic matter has
  little effect to antagonize iodine, as it does chlorine, and
  carcinogenic compounds are not generated.
 
 
 
  Related topic:  I read in a great Reader's Digest hardcover book on
  a back to nature  theme that the best, simplest water purification
  kit for hikers and survivalists is a small, clear screw-top jar with
  five grams of resublimated iodine crystals.   I have never heard the
  term resublimated  and hope our pharmacist Mr. R. Harris can
  enlighten us.
 
  Bottom line:  one bottle of these crystals can be used ONE THOUSAND
  TIMES.   Fill up the jar with any old water and shake it.   Three
  tsps.
of shaken water can purify a quart in 20 minutes.   Remarkable,  I
  think.Seems to be a modest supply of these crystals would last
  the average family for decades.They are available only from a
  pharmacy I read.  What a
  good idea to use our contacts to get this AND CS information to some
  of the aid agency people? Anyone?
 
  BTW:   SUBLIMATED: Having passed from the solid to the gaseous state
  (or vice versa) without becoming liquid.  RE-sublimated?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Himagain
 
 
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Re: CSchlorine and goverment

2005-01-07 Thread name withheld

politicians follow the money. the money buys votes.
the money comes from corporations, lobbying groups, developers, and 
anyone else

that will pay them.
they take that money and buy spin doctors and analysts to tell them
what to say to get elected in the demographics of their area.
what does the average person know about the complexity of issues,
running a goverment, democracy, history, etc.?
speaking for americans, the answer is NOTHING.
very few people come to vote with anything but a bias created by spin
doctors and the media.
so, the chlorine people have gotten inroads in the goverment and the 
goverment

wants to follow the money. the money is largely centered on the USA.
canada wants to use graft and chemicals the modern way.
don't forget to tell them about floridation.


On Jan 7, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Louise wrote:

Well here in Ontario the government has decided that our wells should 
have

chlorine added

I moved out to the country to avoid chlorine (they have been adding
chloramines here in the water in Ottawa water treatment for years, I 
remind

people that it kills fish and they drink it!!!

But now they are going to insist even organic gardeners add chlorine to
their wells to wash their veggies before selling.  But I am chlorine
intolerant so  that will not be good for me.  Hey if I wash anything in
Chlorine even 14 washes later in plain water and tolerated soap I can 
still
smell it.  So I do not use it to wash my clothes with for sure or 
anything

else.

I use CS for just about anything that needs disinfecting for sure.

The farmers are up in arms about their touching their wells, but with 
this
government I can see them pushing this thought.  I believe they do 
want us

to be sicker and sicker with the lowering of vitamins, more and more
additives and more drugs used for every little ache and pain. Flue 
vaccines
for everyone and vaccinating babies just days old!!! for an illness 
they
could test if the mother has in the first place.  Wonder why there is 
so
much chronic illness, you do not have to wonder anymore the government 
is
great at seeing that you have all the best additives and vaccines out 
there

to make sure you have a LOT of chronic illness.

Louise



-Original Message-
From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSwater, water, everywhere



Hi people,
snip

Chlorine is another major toxin (it used to be employed as a
chemical weapon, in fact) that the bureaucrats are pumping
into our water in the name of our health. Supposedly,
chlorine keeps water supplies clean and free of many harmful
bacteria. While this may well be the case in swimming pools,
in the aging pipes and pumping stations most of our country
uses to disperse public water, this harmless chemical can
interact with small quantities of organic matter to produce
some really nasty toxins — including carcinogens chloroform
and DCA (dichloro-acedic acid).

I know — you've heard all of this from me before. But here's
something you likely haven't heard: Some municipalities in
the U.S. are starting to realize that chlorine's byproducts are
a health hazard, and are implementing alternatives for water
treatment...

Hooray, right?
snip



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