Re: CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ?
--On 5 September 2007 19:52:48 +0100 John Plumridge wrote: Absolutley,the whole chlosterol thing was based upon early misinterpretations, and competitive food industry advertising. The best research shows cholesterol actually protects the body against heart disease and much more. We need vegetables and oil with cholesterol Sorry that should have continued...with cholesterol balancing effects (and not those which diminish cholesterol). John -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ?
--On 5 September 2007 12:58:08 -0500 CWFugitt wrote: Does anyone know how to increase the cholesterol? Well, I'd advise coconut specifically to correct serum levels. I would advise sesame, olive oils and butter as the main oils of choice, along with coconut oils and if desired palm oil. Just a little hemp seed oil and walnut oil is good on salads. But may I offer a little more information to help you. Do you tend to consume polyunsaturated fats? Best not to. They tend to have more free radicles (go rancid) and there are other risks: The best evidence indicates that our intake of polyunsaturates should not be much greater than 4% of the caloric total, in approximate proportions of 1 1/2 % omega-3 linolenic acid and 2 1/2 % omega-6 linoleic acid. Excess consumption of polyunsaturated oils has been shown to contribute to a large number of disease conditions including increased cancer and heart disease; immune system dysfunction; damage to the liver, reproductive organs and lungs; digestive disorders; depressed learning ability; impaired growth; and weight gain. Recent research has revealed that too much omega-6 in the diet creates an imbalance that can interfere with production of important prostaglandins. This disruption can result in increased tendency to form blood clots, inflammation, high blood pressure, irritation of the digestive tract, depressed immune function, sterility, cell proliferation, cancer and weight gain. along with a surfeit of omega-6 fatty acids the American diet is deficient in the more unsaturated omega-3 linolenic acid. This fatty acid is necessary for cell oxidation, for metabolizing important sulphur-containing amino acids and for maintaining proper balance in prostaglandin production. Deficiencies have been associated with asthma, heart disease and learning deficiencies. Most commercial vegetable oils contain very little omega-3 linolenic acid and large amounts of the omega-6 linoleic acid. In addition, modern agricultural and industrial practices have reduced the amount of omega-3 fatty acids in commercially available vegetables, eggs, fish and meat. For example, organic eggs from hens allowed to feed on insects and green plants can contain omega-6 and omega-3 fatty acids in the beneficial ratio of approximately one-to-one; but commercial supermarket eggs (including free range) can contain as much as nineteen times more omega-6 than omega-3! Along with saturated fats, cholesterol in the cell membrane gives our cells necessary stiffness and stability. When the diet contains an excess of polyunsaturated fatty acids, these replace saturated fatty acids in the cell membrane, so that the cell walls actually become flabby. When this happens, cholesterol from the blood is "driven" into the tissues to give them structural integrity. This is why serum cholesterol levels may go down temporarily when we replace saturated fats with polyunsaturated oils in the diet. conversely, High serum cholesterol levels often indicate that the body needs cholesterol to protect itself from high levels of altered, free-radical-containing fats. S,O check your tests, by repeating them and at different times of the day etc. if you want to go by test results. Saturated fatty acids constitute at least 50% of the cell membranes. They are what gives our cells necessary stiffness and integrity. % They play a vital role in the health of our bones. For calcium to be effectively incorporated into the skeletal structure, at least 50% of the dietary fats should be saturated. % They lower Lp(a), a substance in the blood that indicates proneness to heart disease.39 They protect the liver from alcohol and other toxins, such as Tylenol. % They enhance the immune system. % They are needed for the proper utilization of essential fatty acids. Elongated omega-3 fatty acids are better retained in the tissues when the diet is rich in saturated fats. % Saturated 18-carbon stearic acid and 16-carbon palmitic acid are the preferred foods for the heart, which is why the fat around the heart muscle is highly saturated.43 The heart draws on this reserve of fat in times of stress. % Short- and medium-chain saturated fatty acids have important antimicrobial properties. They protect us against harmful microorganisms in the digestive tract. Palm oil is about 50% saturated, with 41% oleic acid and about 9% linoleic acid. Coconut oil is 92% saturated with over two-thirds of the saturated fat in the form of medium-chain fatty acids. Medium Chain Fatty Acids in coconut oil do not have a negative effect on cholesterol and protect against heart disease. Enig (Mary Enig Ph.D. on the Effects of Coconut Oil on Serum Cholesterol Levels and HDLs) reported in her article that the effects of coconut oil on persons with low cholesterol levels was the opposite of persons with high cholesterol levels. Of persons with low total cholesterol
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
John Plumridge wrote: "Then what will I cut vegetables with, a garlic crusher?" Cut it with the ax you're grinding... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
John Plumridge wrote: "It does cause some slight offence and considerable difficulty which you notice when your children are being brought up as vegetarians and exposed to this 'normal way of being'. You have to teach them at a very young age (i.e. one year old) that for moral reasons and for health reasons...and so the education begins: either that or simply authoritarian, but it wouldn't help in this matter, except to puzzle them, because they have questions naturally." Yes, you have to indoctrinate your children if you want them to act the same way you do... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: MMS miracles
Ed, Since you refuse to provide any context for your responses, you continue to force others to guess at whoa dn what you are replying to... You did notice that I added an identity at the end. Yes - that is why I IDentified you as 'Ed'... Your opinionated presentation of a "chip on my shoulder"is in error. My recognition of the chip on your shoulder was obviously dead on... Alas, if you cannot stand criticism of "critical posts", may I say too bad. Ed. I have zero problem with criticism... but when someone responds to something I *didn't* say as if it were something I *did* say - yes, I take exception to that. Learn how to read, Ed. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
--On 5 September 2007 00:24:16 -0400 Carlos Pérez wrote: The same old books tell us that later (several tens of thousands of years ago) our ancestors ate animal products. Paleontology coincides. Hey Carlos, that's interesting. What books? The oldest relates to about 5,000 years old. And what is it about paleontology that coincides? Is it the canine teeth? Look, that's school government education, by witless graduate teachers, scientists. Why on earth should homo sapiens have dog's teeth, are they descended from dogs then? Calling pointed teeth 'canine', is a convenient proof that we are 'meant to be' meat eaters. (a philosophical 'fallacy of equivocation' in reasoning): 'Oh look let's call this canine, dog's eat meat, so we should therefore'. And that's about the sum of scientific proof. Except for the other one, 'essential amino acids', but there are none. All the other stuff: we need a high protein diet: well here' some news: lentils have about 28% protein more than most meat at 25%. Mothers' milk (human) about 1% , the same as lettuce, what for the fastest growing phase?!! Don't make me laugh until I cry, or I'll have to call my pointy kitchen knife canine and only use it for cutting meat. Then what will I cut vegetables with, a garlic crusher? Care to comment? Regards, John. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> False science
Somehow, I missed this one. I think Tad Wrote it. That is a good message and I don't disagree with anything you said. I actually use some organics, have always done so, and I believe in them. That does not keep me from having strong ideas about organics, and the other fertilize, as I have stated. Many get the wrong ideas about my ideas and things I say. At 08:12 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Maybe I missed it but did you ever come out and explain your fertilizer and how you chelate it, Wayne? No, I did not say, and I don't recall saying I chelated anything. My media does it and some earthworms help that I planted 25 years ago.I did say that nature does it and man does it. I personally use Fish Emulsion Fertilizer, compost, and various animal manures. Some people believe in aerating the animal manures to break them down into more useful compounds, but I lack the equipment. I trust the soil organisms to break them down for me.:-) Of course you understand this much better than many growers. And you can add a few things, chemicals, to make it happen. Not all chemicals are bad and not all are fertilize. Therefore I don't poison them. I can't say I get your Paul Bunyan-esque yields or plant size, but manage to grow more than we can eat, and try to share with others. Likely you could by changing a few things and learning more about your plants. Using a variety of materials as you do is the way to do it. I wonder if you have researched and experimented with your growing media. Many people error on this and disasters can result, it they vary too far from the ideal. Very likely your tomatoes taste as good as mine, and as good as any. Often I increase magnesium and potassium at key growth stages thinking I may increase this content in the fruit. I have not verified this by analysis. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
--On 5 September 2007 01:38:04 -0005 "M. G. Devour" wrote: And we'll allow that OPINION can vary from one to another of us and not demand agreement. Okay, John, Carlos? Thanks! Mike Devour silver-list owner (The vegan/vegetarian/omnivore/carnivore debate is one that seems impossible to handle without deterioration into argument and discord!) That's fine, I do agree. It doesn't have to deteriorate, but I can imagine that it very often does, inflammatory challenges by vegetarianism and so forth. But strong opinion need not be inflammatory. Think what it may be like for vegetarian. A useful reminder could be this: meat eating is portrayed as the only (aka cultural) way to be in the media, and if this were not so meat eaters would be more careful not to assume too much. You don't here 'Today we're going top cook with meat', but you do hear 'today we're going to make a vegetarian sausage'. It does cause some slight offence and considerable difficulty which you notice when your children are being brought up as vegetarians and exposed to this 'normal way of being'. You have to teach them at a very young age (i.e. one year old) that for moral reasons and for health reasons...and so the education begins: either that or simply authoritarian, but it wouldn't help in this matter, except to puzzle them, because they have questions naturally. I do believe that our diet is very important for children, and they could always choose to be meat eaters later on in life, but have an advantage in being brought up vegetarian first (when the cooking is splendid). My in-laws insited on bringing meat to our table with the infants, which I thought was most insensitive toward them. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
On the subject of pesticides and chemicals, I really see the need, but wish they could all be safe for us. When I was 11, I was eating a peach, which then fell open and in the pit was a ball of sqirming worms. Uncle Mac's corn had a big fat worm inside 75% of the husks. I HATE worms! I even separate the leaves of Brussels sprouts before cooking and have found many tiny worms. Our pecan trees produced only fungus infested nuts last couple years. We'd have nothing much to eat if not for pesticides. Most (not all) 'pests' won't attack healthy plants, they only eat the unhealthy ones. If we were to return to proper farming methods - mainly crop *and* field rotation - we'd have little need for pesticides... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> False science
--On 5 September 2007 20:12:19 -0500 Clayton Family wrote: Okay, I am officially taking umbrage at the insistence of some poor dears here that medicine in particular and biology in general can really be called science. Yes, I think you're scheme of things there is pretty good. How about the science of spirit or god? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Drab Posts. . . What From This List?????? You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!
Thanks for the welcome Wayne. --On 5 September 2007 19:21:23 -0500 CWFugitt wrote: I think John is going to be all right. He will find he likes all of us and all the off topic stuff. I thinks so, though it's sure changed since 2002. Most of it relates to health. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> False science
Okay, I am officially taking umbrage at the insistence of some poor dears here that medicine in particular and biology in general can really be called science. Physics... that's science in theory, sometimes in practice Chemistry...that is science in both ways Geologyyes, on both counts Engineering, a resounding YES, on both counts and particularly because it is so very pratical. Biology... now there you have WAY too many variables to control, so it can hardly be called a true science Medicine no way, it is half lies (even learned drs say only half of what they teach is true, but they don't know which half) and just TRY making up an experiment that can't be twisted into your own idea of what you want to see. Some medical researchers work very hard and come up with some good ideas, try them out and come to some reasonable conclusions, then test it in people, and sometimes it works. Don't even talk about the "social sciences"- they may be valuable and helpful, but they are not sciences in the true sense of the word. I just do not understand why people do not like scientists. It is those who gave us so many labor saving devices, so we woman can, as an entire gender, thank them for that. Our grandmothers did not have time for much but doing drudgery to take care of families. An that includes making soap to wash the clothes in iron tubs in the backyards once a week. I have heard such derisory vague comments before, and must admit being puzzled. Perhaps someone can enlighten me. Kathryn On Sep 5, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Tad Winiecki wrote: Maybe I missed it but did you ever come out and explain your fertilizer and how you chelate it, Wayne? I personally use Fish Emulsion Fertilizer, compost, and various animal manures. Some people believe in aerating the animal manures to break them down into more useful compounds, but I lack the equipment. I trust the soil organisms to break them down for me.:-) Therefore I don't poison them. I can't say I get your Paul Bunyan-esque yields or plant size, but manage to grow more than we can eat, and try to share with others. Science becomes a god to many that blinds them to simple truth. Once I was on a national daylily forum and took compassion on someone expressing a health problem and suggested CS for it. I quess I should have sent a private email because a "Scientist" on the list emailed me and lambasted me for giving unfounded health advice. I got into a long discussion with him about silver and herbs in medicine and hundreds or even thousands of years of human experience meant nothing to him scientifically. When I was in my 20's I had chronic bursitis and went to a doctor and was told they didn't know what caused it but I could take steroids or painkillers. I took aspirin daily and suffered with the effects on my stomach during my entire first pregnancy. Then I got a problem while nursing the baby where I couldn't lift my thumbs and had pain in my thumbs and wrists. I went to the doctor- they didn't know what caused it but I could take steroids or have surgery. Fortunately a kind friend gave me Adelle Davis' book "Let's Have Healthy Children" and I learned you need fat to absorb calcium, I started drinking 2-3 quarts of whole milk a day, and not only the wrist problem but also the bursitis problem disappeared! This started me on a lifelong devotion to alternative medicine. At least the doctors were honest that they were totally ignorant of nutrition- natural medicine. The sad part is that 20 years later nursing mothers I met were still being told the same thing about their sore wrists, and I met one mother with the scars on her wrists from the surgery! Nancy My father was a windbreaker, my mother was a turtleneck, but I am a sweater. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Fw: CS>Off topic list - OOPs Sorry
Sorry, it did post. - Original Message - From: Norine Twaddell To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:02 PM Subject: Fw: CS>Off topic list Dee, Posting for the 2nd time. I don't know why my messages are not posting. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org ~Norine Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT www.dogventures.com<>
Re: CS>ice-cream for sayens and simple truth
I am with you Faith. Tad, so well put. Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT www.dogventures.com - Original Message - From: Faith Saint Francis To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: CS>ice-cream for sayens and simple truth Tad Wieniecky wrote >>Science becomes a god to many that blinds them to simple truth.<< Can we send flowers and a BIG BIG ice-cream pie to Mr. Tad? FaithStFrancis -- Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it!
Fw: CS>Off topic list
Dee, Posting for the 2nd time. I don't know why my messages are not posting. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org ~Norine Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT www.dogventures.com<>
Re: CS>Re: diverticulitis
Simon, thank you for the reference. Simon Jester wrote: > Does anyone have the recipe for a charcoal slurry? I would like to > keep on file. Thanks, Jess I generally just use a 1:1 mixture (calcium bentonite)... Best source for clay info: www.eytonsearth.org I don't have a current source for a good quality activated charcoal - I bought a 5 gallon container over 3 years ago and its still half full... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Regards, Carol Ann ~ and the bush was consumed.Exodus 3:2 Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008. - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
Re: CS>Drab Posts. . . What From This List?????? You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!
At 05:35 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Oh, and .. . .Welcome to the List, John. :-)) I think John is going to be all right. He will find he likes all of us and all the off topic stuff. Most of it relates to health. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>ice-cream for sayens and simple truth
Tad Wieniecky wrote >>Science becomes a god to many that blinds them to simple truth.<< Can we send flowers and a BIG BIG ice-cream pie to Mr. Tad? FaithStFrancis _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
Evening Chuck, At 01:47 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Well, It's certainly interesting. I'll try it next year. Yes, I agree. It must have worked by some method. If I was going to practice lying, it would not be about tomato plants. It would likely be about politicians. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Cholesterol Magic Numbers, Are there any ?
Evening Faith. At 01:45 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Okay. I missed the joke part. No sense of humor I guess. Perhaps I think everyone has high cholesterol because I do. Supposedly. Besides, I will confess I couldn't think of anything else to say. I am glad you are cholesterol free. She better not be "Cholesterol Free". I think that would be a disaster. How high is your cholesterol ? It may not in fact even be high. The numbers are a fraud for sure. I can send some links about this. I am concerned about mine being so low. The other numbers that have served me well all my life is what I would like to have. 165 to 185 or even 200. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
Hey Pat: It is said that what is offered as opinion, is sometimes the mind we wish to have changed. We are looking for alternative views. Certainly we invite them. --On 5 September 2007 15:43:40 -0700 Pat wrote: The wild one does have a chance to live, although he might starve to death. really, animals have economic crises do they? They starve to death when they lose habitat, that's a human intervention. And may I suggest any peaceful or sudden death by predation is far nicer than humane methods. They are a misnomer. The bullet and stun is not peaceful, that's all propaganda. Try a head injury or massive electrocution, listen to reports of head injury victims. They will all die in the end. I figure that if we didn't eat meat, there would be no reason to let pigs and cattle be born. That's ridiculous, do they need your help or permission: I suppose you created them too. At least we give them life ..I see, yes you did create life, probably by mixing chemicals. and I hope most are well cared for. so you are told by the industry. Find out - become a cowherd in several cultures, and include a biodynamic farm which has a small herd of milk cows. I realize many probably are raised under lousy conditions, but I see many happy cows grazing in green pastures everywhere I go. That's a contradiction. DO the cows enjoy lousy conditions? Do you know what unhappy cows look like? Where did you see them? I see stupefied unhealthy cows. Compare them to an Indian cow. The pictures of green fields on your food packages are not ideal for cows. They are the monocultures we've been conditioned to accept as images of paradise. They are boring green fields. Cows like trees for shelter, they like verges too, and variety. All souls do. I can't bear to think about it beyond thatit really bothers me to see them in cattle haulers. It must be hard for you then. Perhaps when you do shut your mind off you eat cow (ok beef really) in greater comfort. Alternatively, kill your own beef (i mean cow). What would you do with the blood? collect it or let it run into your yard soil? Look Pat, I am sorry to comment in a hard manner, but no offence is meant. You have your conscience, beliefs and upbringing. I don't respect them (that's just tosh to say I respect 'your' beliefs, or even you for having them - I have to tolerate them), but don't blame you for that either. It is almost impossible for you to be a vegetarian and enjoy eating soul-food when, 1) you weren't brought up as one, and 2) you live in a meat factory culture - it always assumed even by chefs that you are going to cook with meat. 3) the art of cooking is truly vegetarian, and we have lost that. 4) there are few good vegetarian cooks or cafes 5) vegetable concoctions are served as psuedo meat, sausages etc.. 6) the dominant brainwashing, called either education, scientific materialism, or foolish absurdity, which is in fact soul-killing indoctrination and control, doesn't have any truck with soul except to sneer, hovers over whether animals have feelings. 7) you don't realise being a vegetarian is healthier (the strongest man in the world - Moscow State Circus - is a vegetarian Muslim) 8) you don't realise that eating meat stunts your health, vibrancy and spiritual growth, and so therefore, your intelligence. The again, perhaps I am wrong. Sincerely, John -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Organic, False science
Maybe I missed it but did you ever come out and explain your fertilizer and how you chelate it, Wayne? I personally use Fish Emulsion Fertilizer, compost, and various animal manures. Some people believe in aerating the animal manures to break them down into more useful compounds, but I lack the equipment. I trust the soil organisms to break them down for me.:-) Therefore I don't poison them. I can't say I get your Paul Bunyan-esque yields or plant size, but manage to grow more than we can eat, and try to share with others. Science becomes a god to many that blinds them to simple truth. Once I was on a national daylily forum and took compassion on someone expressing a health problem and suggested CS for it. I quess I should have sent a private email because a "Scientist" on the list emailed me and lambasted me for giving unfounded health advice. I got into a long discussion with him about silver and herbs in medicine and hundreds or even thousands of years of human experience meant nothing to him scientifically. When I was in my 20's I had chronic bursitis and went to a doctor and was told they didn't know what caused it but I could take steroids or painkillers. I took aspirin daily and suffered with the effects on my stomach during my entire first pregnancy. Then I got a problem while nursing the baby where I couldn't lift my thumbs and had pain in my thumbs and wrists. I went to the doctor- they didn't know what caused it but I could take steroids or have surgery. Fortunately a kind friend gave me Adelle Davis' book "Let's Have Healthy Children" and I learned you need fat to absorb calcium, I started drinking 2-3 quarts of whole milk a day, and not only the wrist problem but also the bursitis problem disappeared! This started me on a lifelong devotion to alternative medicine. At least the doctors were honest that they were totally ignorant of nutrition- natural medicine. The sad part is that 20 years later nursing mothers I met were still being told the same thing about their sore wrists, and I met one mother with the scars on her wrists from the surgery! Nancy My father was a windbreaker, my mother was a turtleneck, but I am a sweater. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. Stopping hunger by stopping to eatmeat
>>I figure that if we didn't eat meat,<< If we'd stop eating meat (ALLUFUS) there would be no more hunger in the world. Calculations made not by me, but by those who know how to calculate. Imagine all the peeople .. living with the beasts.. FaithStFrancis Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:43:40 -0700From: pattycake29...@yahoo.comsubject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.To: silver-list@eskimo.com Wayne said: Did you ever read the message about the two animals.One was wild and the other was domestic.The wild one may be killed by predators, may be killed by a hunter, or even one of his own kind. But he has a chance to live.The other, the domestic . is sure to be killed.The wild one does have a chance to live, although he might starve to death. They will all die in the end. I figure that if we didn't eat meat, there would be no reason to let pigs and cattle be born. At least we give them life and I hope most are well cared for. I realize many probably are raised under lousy conditions, but I see many happy cows grazing in green pastures everywhere I go. I can't bear to think about it beyond thatit really bothers me to see them in cattle haulers. On the subject of pesticides and chemicals, I really see the need, but wish they could all be safe for us. When I was 11, I was eating a peach, which then fell open and in the pit was a ball of sqirming worms. Uncle Mac's corn had a big fat worm inside 75% of the husks. I HATE worms! I even separate the leaves of Brussels sprouts before cooking and have found many tiny worms. Our pecan trees produced only fungus infested nuts last couple years. We'd have nothing much to eat if not for pesticides. Pat Pat Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
Wayne said: Did you ever read the message about the two animals. One was wild and the other was domestic. The wild one may be killed by predators, may be killed by a hunter, or even one of his own kind. But he has a chance to live. The other, the domestic . is sure to be killed. The wild one does have a chance to live, although he might starve to death. They will all die in the end. I figure that if we didn't eat meat, there would be no reason to let pigs and cattle be born. At least we give them life and I hope most are well cared for. I realize many probably are raised under lousy conditions, but I see many happy cows grazing in green pastures everywhere I go. I can't bear to think about it beyond thatit really bothers me to see them in cattle haulers. On the subject of pesticides and chemicals, I really see the need, but wish they could all be safe for us. When I was 11, I was eating a peach, which then fell open and in the pit was a ball of sqirming worms. Uncle Mac's corn had a big fat worm inside 75% of the husks. I HATE worms! I even separate the leaves of Brussels sprouts before cooking and have found many tiny worms. Our pecan trees produced only fungus infested nuts last couple years. We'd have nothing much to eat if not for pesticides. Pat Pat Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: CS>Drab Posts. Who Runs the Country ?
I saw Terry last week and he is just fineDoing less online and more active in his community. He's involved with teaching kids something or other. I am sure they are learning. He explained to me he was doing more important things with his life. Not that he meant anything bad about this list, just that he is busy with other things right now. Ross - Original Message - From: "Dee" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: Re: CS>Drab Posts. Who Runs the Country ? > I was wondering that very thing Wayne. Dee > > ---Original Message--- > > > > From: CWFugitt > > Date: 05/09/2007 14:18:29 > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: CS>Drab Posts. Who Runs the Country ? > > > > By the way, what happened to our friend Terry Chamberlain? > > I hope he is ok. > > > > . > > > > Wayne > > === > > > > > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM > >
CS>Drab Posts. . . What From This List?????? You Have Got To Be Kidding Me!!!!
Sheesh! Now, Chuck, why didn't I think of something humorous to say like that; Or simple and to the point, like Dee; or kind like Wayne; or educational and instructive like Simon; or just plain real honest as they come, like Ed; or . . . . . You know, I must have spent about a half an hour or more trying to respond to John's post about drab, and all I could do was get indignant. Not nice! So I deleted it . . . . twice! Then after a while, I figured, hey - I had the right to tell John newbie how his post made me feel; so, I actually went into my delete bucket and got my 'half an hour or more it took me to write post' back out again, and was going to send it a second time. Nope! Couldn't do it. I felt something more elegant and profound in the makin' - happening remotely. Ah! Then it came. The Masterful one. Mike McMasterful Moderator of the Millenium Devour, and I breathed a big sigh of relief. I don't know how long it takes you Mike to author those Fan-Tab-u-Lus moderator posts, but they deserve a place in a famous 'Moderator Museum.' And anyway, it sure feels better to compliment than to complain. So, thank you Mike, once again for an opportunity to Stop, Listen, and Learn and for a breather to change my complaint to a compliment and finally get to send it off. And, thank you all. I really couldn't have said it better. I am so glad to have a family of members wherein I constantly am reminded of greater values and higher good. Oh, and .. . .Welcome to the List, John. :-)) S-Max ---Original Message--- Gee, Mike musta sold the list... Ther's a NEW cop in town! Chuck Try not to have a good time--this is supposed to be educational -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Acid Blend for MMS
I have a large jar of "Acid Blend" for wine making which is a combination of Citric, Malic, and Tartaric acids similar to that found in fruit. I am wondering if I could use this in the place of Citric acid for acidifying the sodium chlorite solution of the MMS in order to activate it. Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Organics, ...........
I have this book, but am saving it for the Winter, to read. I buy books and read them when the weather turns cold. Ed. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: CS>Re: MMS miracles
You did notice that I added an identity at the end. Your opinionated presentation of a "chip on my shoulder"is in error. Alas, if you cannot stand criticism of "critical posts", may I say too bad. Ed. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
CS>Re: eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ?
It seems likely that the body produces cholesterol to heal itself, so in my opinion, it is best left alone, and certainly not take medications to lower it. Absolutley,the whole chlosterol thing was based upon early misinterpretations, and competitive food industry advertising. The best research shows cholesterol actually protects the body against heart disease and much more. We need vegetables and oil with cholesterol The best sources are saturated fats... coconut oil is the best vegetable source that I'm aware of. I also love my 'almost raw' ribeye steaks... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Organics, ...........
Sounds like the electricity itself is producing a cure... Actually - there are electircal properties to colloidal silver. Saul Pressman is also convinced that ozone is simply one method to get 'electricity' into the body, and it is actually 'electricity' that works the magic, not the extra oxygen atom. I highly recommend the book 'The Body Electric', by Dr. Robert Becker: http://tinyurl.com/yp4nvq Dr. Becker did some *amazing* - maybe even 'miraculous' - things with electricity... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: MMS miracles
Without some one testing a product, how can anyone know it's effectiveness. So a few of us foolish folks will buy some and give it the acid test. since I'm the only one I recall accusing anyone of 'being foolish', I'll assume this is aimed at me... Why did you take it so personal Ed? Do you seriously believe that someone who buys anything and everything the second they hear someone say 'it's a miracle cure!' is *not* foolish?? When you are sick, and have not gotten any help from several doctors, who know nothing about it, what's left to do? Well, I'd suggest that abandoning reason is not one of the things that you *should* do, but of course, each person must make their own choices. The cost is a mere pittance to what a doctor's visit is. I have read all of the book, and the author seems like someone that wants to help others. He does seem to know his Chemistry, and has spent a great deal of time and money, in his quest for the Right Stuff . If this concoction works for me, should I say so, or just keep it to myself, at the risk of being labeled foolish. Ed. Well, since what you just said didn't meet the criteria that I laid down for what would constitute 'foolish', maybe you should read what I said again, and take the chip off your shoulder. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>MMS
Hello: There is a free ebook for downloading at the following site. It contains the most significant new information to me that I have seen in a long time for riding the body of micro organisms. IT talks about Sodium Chlorite solution being activated with vinegar or lime juice over a three minute period, mixing it with water - and good stuff happens. I looked through the internet and the concept is not new. The process has been integrated into other products out there. www.miraclemineral.org Ian Roe
Re: CS>Re: MLM, MMS, and ........ the Chase
- Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: MLM, MMS, and the Chase I'll just add this discussion to the list of ones we shouldn't pursue... except to say I have no love for Moore, either. When he's gored one of your oxen, you'll feel the same... Mike (setting a bad example) D. Hi Mike. What ox did he gore? Faith It is hard to figure out where you are coming from. But then, I just prefer to skip it. You give no evidence at all for your slanderous remarks. Michael Moore is one of my heros. Period, the end, Amen. Faith - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 6:49 AM Subject: Re: CS>Re: MLM, MMS, and the Chase > At 10:03 AM 9/2/2007 -0400, you wrote: > > >>>I've become suspicious of all the sides, I suppose. >>>It would seem that everybody lies, but the Devil lies the least. [If >>>you can define a lie as, not knowing, as well as intentional >>>deception...like Michael Moore does while he intentionally makes >>>omissions. ] >> >>>Ode >> >>, >> >> >>Dear Ode: >> >>Many of us know that everybody lies from time to time. What counts >>is the underlying agenda. >> >>If you have seen the movie "Sicko" please tell me what omissions >>Michael Moore makes in the movie? What is Mr. Moore trying to do by >>producing this movie? > > ## Mr Moore always has an agenda to make any given target look > ## foolish > any way he can by using "truths" without the qualifiers. [ aka half > truths , the most skillful of all lies ] It's his job and he's good at > it. We have interfaced in a way, where he made some friends of mine > look a whole LOT more KooKoo than they really were back in his TV > Nation days. EVERYTHING he said was out of context. All comments were > edited and mis-arranged to make them "appear to be" as nonsensical as > possible. They are, in fact VERY nice and sincere people with some odd > ideas, but he made them out to be a pack of little Hitlers out to rule > the world and nothing could be further from the truth. > Watch Fahrenheit 911...then...watch Fahrenhype 911 that places each > phrase used in Fahrenheit 911 into it's proper context using the > complete sentences as the interview-ees say they said them. He is NOT > a journalist, he's a comedian posing as a journalist. A comedians > stock in trade is making reality appear ludicrous and that's what he > does...but not "all in good humor". > A genuine comedian presents acidic points and makes them mild enough > to > swallow with a sense of humor. > There's nothing genuine about Michael Moore, either as a comedian, or > as a 'supposed' journalist. > > I'll watch "sicko" when I find it for free. I'll never give that > slimy crooked bastard a dime. If you hate his victims, he can be > funny. But that's a reflection of hate. > If you know his victims as real caring people, not just objects of > hate > and warped derision not so funny. > > >>The way many people talk one might think that the Devil is a persona. >> >>In 25 words or less, who is the Devil? > > > ## Check the OT list for the answer to that question. > > Ode > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: > 269.13.2/985 - Release Date: 9/2/2007 4:32 PM > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
Thanks. I think Faith With a cuvaceous figure that Venus would have envied, a tanned, unblemished oval face framed with lustrous thick brown hair, deep azure-blue eyes fringed with long black lashes, perfect teeth that vied for competition, and a small straight nose, Marilee had a beauty that defied description. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>Organics, ... From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A Turing tar pit is a general term for one of the various esoteric programming languages designed to be Turing-complete while in some sense simplifying to the greatest extent possible both the syntax and the semantics of the language. Such a language gives up certain practical goals (such as ease of coding, performance, etc.) in favor of others (e.g., proving non-computability of certain functions, illustrating basic principles of programming, providing simple bases for computational models, etc.). Thus it is of interest in theoretical computer science. Chuck Until you walk a mile in someone else's moccasins, you can't imagine the smell On 9/5/2007 3:01:09 PM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: CS>Organics, ... Well, It's certainly interesting. I'll try it next year. Chuck The Turing Tarpit is where everything is possible but nothing interesting is easy >> You lost me on this one. What on earth is a Turning Tarpit? Faith On 9/5/2007 9:02:21 AM, William Missett (miss...@prodigy.net.mx) wrote: > Hi! > > I was just given a secret method for controlling tomato infections. I > live > in southern Mexico, and tomatos struggle to survive, so I hope this > cure > works, which it supposedly does in spades: > > Get a section of electric wiring with somewhat thick copper wiring, cut > off > a 2-3 inch section of an individual wire, and insert it through the > stem of > the tomato plant just above the roots. > > This creates a colloidal copper generation, which immunizes the tomato -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Staph in semen
How do you know that you have Staph in your Semen? It would seem to me that tests would have to be taken, and an antibiotic administered. Ed. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A Turing tar pit is a general term for one of the various esoteric programming languages designed to be Turing-complete while in some sense simplifying to the greatest extent possible both the syntax and the semantics of the language. Such a language gives up certain practical goals (such as ease of coding, performance, etc.) in favor of others (e.g., proving non-computability of certain functions, illustrating basic principles of programming, providing simple bases for computational models, etc.). Thus it is of interest in theoretical computer science. Chuck Until you walk a mile in someone else's moccasins, you can't imagine the smell On 9/5/2007 3:01:09 PM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:47 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Organics, ... > > > Well, > It's certainly interesting. > I'll try it next year. > > Chuck > The Turing Tarpit is where everything is possible but nothing > interesting is easy > >> > > > > You lost me on this one. What on earth is a Turning Tarpit? > > Faith > > > > > On 9/5/2007 9:02:21 AM, William Missett (miss...@prodigy.net.mx) > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I was just given a secret method for controlling tomato infections. I > > live > > in southern Mexico, and tomatos struggle to survive, so I hope this > > cure > > works, which it supposedly does in spades: > > > > Get a section of electric wiring with somewhat thick copper wiring, cut > > off > > a 2-3 inch section of an individual wire, and insert it through the > > stem of > > the tomato plant just above the roots. > > > > This creates a colloidal copper generation, which immunizes the tomato > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Off topic list
Dee, Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org ~Norine Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT www.dogventures.com - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: CS>Off topic list Can anyone help me to find the above please? I went to Yahoo but couldn't find *any* group let alone this one. Dee <>
Re: CS>MMS miracles
Well Day 2: My first dose yesterday gave no side effects (nausea, runs) so I took the dosage I was going to work up to (30 drops) before bedtime. Still no side effects. I suspect my years of CS has eliminated them critters that produce herx. Took another uneventful 30 drops today. Chuck The unfacts, did we have them, are too imprecisely few to warrant our certitude On 9/4/2007 9:02:28 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > Well, > Mine came in the mail today. > Funny how long time can be, sometimes...remember getting your first > decoder ring after sending in the cereal boxtop? > > Took forever (ten days) to arrive. > > Took a 6 drop dose a couple hours after supper. > No side effects yet. > > Chuck > Right now I'm having amnesia and deja-vu at the same time. > I think I've > forgotten this before. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Off topic list
www.silverlist.org go to bottom of page and click on Off Topic scroll down To Subscribe under the "Off Topic List Instructions" when the next page comes up, click on the "click here" (written in purple) option Hope this helps! Ruth - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: CS>Off topic list Can anyone help me to find the above please? I went to Yahoo but couldn't find *any* group let alone this one. Dee <>
Re: CS>Off topic list
Dear Dee!On my list there is a message from Wayne ... the footer has the address for Mike Devour and also the place for subscribing to the OT list. This is NOT a Yahoo list by Mikes decision and I believe we are ALL very happy with that! the message is titled:" CS>Drab posts" if you scroll down all the way you will find the info you need. I enjoy reading your posts! Marianne
Re: CS>Re: Heart palpitations
I am told that magnesium aspartate is most easily asborbed. Faith - Original Message - From: Scott To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Heart palpitations Thank you but which form of magnesium are you suggesting. I've seen and taken magnesium stearate, magnesium chloride, etc. Simon Jester wrote: > Magnesium is one of the main minerals for a healthy > heart. Doctors will even give a magnesium shot when > one is having a heart attack. Orotates work best. This is a big (but not the only) reason that cayenne is so good for the heart - it is very high in magnesium... Interesting anecdote... The main study that is often quoted as 'proving' that aspirin prevents heart attacks used pure bayer aspirin - and magnesium is added to bayer aspirin during its manufacturing process... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour In His Service, Scott Young <>< -- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: Re: CS>Organics, ... Well, It's certainly interesting. I'll try it next year. Chuck The Turing Tarpit is where everything is possible but nothing interesting is easy You lost me on this one. What on earth is a Turning Tarpit? Faith On 9/5/2007 9:02:21 AM, William Missett (miss...@prodigy.net.mx) wrote: Hi! I was just given a secret method for controlling tomato infections. I live in southern Mexico, and tomatos struggle to survive, so I hope this cure works, which it supposedly does in spades: Get a section of electric wiring with somewhat thick copper wiring, cut off a 2-3 inch section of an individual wire, and insert it through the stem of the tomato plant just above the roots. This creates a colloidal copper generation, which immunizes the tomato plant against a wide variety of common tomato diseases. Hope it helps! - Original Message - From: "Dee" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CS>Organics, ... >I appreciate your point of view Wayne, and Mike's patience. I still feel > that natural substances allowed to rot down as compost, should have a > more > balanced benefit than chemicals which have been put together for a > specific > reason i.e. to grow more tomatoes on one plant, say. Maybe I am > wrong, > but there must be some reason for our crops in this day and age, having > less > nutri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: Heart palpitations
Actually it's lack of potassium that causes my heart palpitations rather than lack of magnesium, but they both work so hand in glove. Magnesium is particularly effective for my chest tightness. Cheap, easy magnesium for this purpose: Magnesium Citrate. Cheap easy potassium for this purpose: Potassium Chloride in the form of Salt Substitute, in any grocery store. Daddybob No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.5/990 - Release Date: 9/4/2007 10:36 PM
Re: CS>CS & Lupus
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: CS>CS & Lupus On 9/5/2007 6:15:00 AM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: - Original Message - As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he were ever to break wind in the sound chamber he would never hear the end of it. Good 'un Just stole it... Chuck If you jog in a jogging suit, lounge in lounging pajamas, and smoke in a smoking jacket, WHY would anyone want to wear a windbreaker?? You just stole it? That's okay. I'm stealing yours too. Faith Just below the Narrows the river widens. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ?
--On 5 September 2007 19:23:16 +0100 Dee wrote: It seems likely that the body produces cholesterol to heal itself, so in my opinion, it is best left alone, and certainly not take medications to lower it. Absolutley,the whole chlosterol thing was based upon early misinterpretations, and competitive food industry advertising. The best research shows cholesterol actually protects the body against heart disease and much more. We need vegetables and oil with cholesterol John. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
Well, It's certainly interesting. I'll try it next year. Chuck The Turing Tarpit is where everything is possible but nothing interesting is easy On 9/5/2007 9:02:21 AM, William Missett (miss...@prodigy.net.mx) wrote: > Hi! > > I was just given a secret method for controlling tomato infections. I > live > in southern Mexico, and tomatos struggle to survive, so I hope this > cure > works, which it supposedly does in spades: > > Get a section of electric wiring with somewhat thick copper wiring, cut > off > a 2-3 inch section of an individual wire, and insert it through the > stem of > the tomato plant just above the roots. > > This creates a colloidal copper generation, which immunizes the tomato > plant > against a wide variety of common tomato diseases. > > Hope it helps! > - Original Message - > From: "Dee" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Organics, ... > > > >I appreciate your point of view Wayne, and Mike's patience. I still feel > > that natural substances allowed to rot down as compost, should have a more > > balanced benefit than chemicals which have been put together for a > > specific > > reason i.e. to grow more tomatoes on one plant, say. Maybe I am > > wrong, > > but there must be some reason for our crops in this day and age, having > > less > > nutri -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
- Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. Faith G. writes: Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. I'd agree with you if I didn't daily experience cravings for things that are *obviously* dangerous junk. If I were living where there was no junk food, I could pick what I wanted from the tree, bush and plant, and the game was fresh and plentiful, then I'd expect my natural and healthy appetite would re-emerge. Meanwhile... Be well, Mike D. << Hi Mike. Gosh, I guess I'd better clarify what I was trying to say. By "agree with you" I meant "Healthy". I wonder if that clears it up. Is anybody buying that? Faith - Original Message - From: "Dee " You are such a sensible person Carlos, I know what you say is pure logic and sense, and I have overcome certain phobias about food, i.e. I can eat raw spinach. However, this is because it is not that bad, but I don't think I could eat raw okra because it is tough. Wish I could, ditto the eggs. I give my dog raw eggs but he doesn't care what he eats, as you say, he has no hangups. I do hope to conquer this though, at least some of it. Dee [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
- Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. It was meant to be a joke Faith! I actually don't have high cholesterol, and if I did it wouldn't worry me as I think the whole cholesterol thing is an absolute scam and a myth. Dee Okay. I missed the joke part. No sense of humor I guess. Perhaps I think everyone has high cholesterol because I do. Supposedly. Besides, I will confess I couldn't think of anything else to say. I am glad you are cholesterol free. The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ?
I meant to have added, that maybe you are so healthy that your body doesn't *need* to produce more cholesterol. It certainly sounds like it from your description of your lifestyle. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Dee Date: 09/05/07 19:23:55 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ? I don't think that would increase it Wayne. From what I have read, the liver produces cholesterol in response to the body's need for it, which is why when we get older, it is natural for blood cholesterol levels to be higher. The trouble is, it has been all taken out of context, and researchers have found that the cholesterol thing is only one part of a whole lot of things which could cause heart attacks. It seems likely that the body produces cholesterol to heal itself, so in my opinion, it is best left alone, and certainly not take medications to lower it. Dee
Re: CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ?
I don't think that would increase it Wayne. From what I have read, the liver produces cholesterol in response to the body's need for it, which is why when we get older, it is natural for blood cholesterol levels to be higher. The trouble is, it has been all taken out of context, and researchers have found that the cholesterol thing is only one part of a whole lot of things which could cause heart attacks. It seems likely that the body produces cholesterol to heal itself, so in my opinion, it is best left alone, and certainly not take medications to lower it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 05/09/2007 19:09:43 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ? At 08:27 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: > Likely I need 10 or 12 raw eggs per day. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Off topic list
Can anyone help me to find the above please? I went to Yahoo but couldn't find *any* group let alone this one. Dee <>
RE: CS>CS & Lupus
Thank you very much, Carlos. Carlos Pérez wrote: Scott, In my experience cayenne pepper or habaneros or any other one of these marvels of nature, should be used directly in contact with mouth sub-lingual and laringeal mucose and all the others of the area, because it is precisely this direct flux through them into the bloodstream what produces the highest benefit. It helps clean the arteries, it activates blood circulation, it regenerates blood vessels, and due to this it is specially fit to regenerate heart tissues when blood irrigation is deficient due to their being damaged. Of course, it is just a matter of using it daily, and GRADUALLY increasing the ammount without getting much discomfort (I use it fresh and raw in every meal, by direct biting and chewing pieces together with bites of food) Remember it should be done gradually. If you get to the point that you start feeling a little hot (in your mouth naturally, but a little on your head and rest of your body) and you start sweating a little, you are in the right track. These "waves" of heat several times a day bring the highest benefit. If you happen to exceed yourself a little through lack of practice, no problem. The discomfort will go away in a few minutes, and you will be more careful in your dosage next time. In a short period of time you probably will be eating and enjoying ammounts of pepper that would make others cry. Cayenne extract and cayenne tea, several dropperfulls under the tongue, have saved many lives of persons with a severe heart stroke, practically dead on the ground. I am sure that, since it has normally been in cases of common persons and not Hot Pepper Eaters, it burned the hell out of them, but a few minutes later they were very glad that by using this method they were again alive. A few months ago, even though I never get sick, I was having some irregularities in my heart beat. I did not pay much attention to it, but when more than a month had elapsed, I got curious and went to a recommended very famous heart specialist to hear his opinion. He examined me very carefully, had me have heart and chest X-rays done, asked me all kinds of questions about eating and life habits, put a Holter 24 hours on me, had me have effort tests, and after all was finished he had me seat in front of him and told me very gravely: You have some supra-ventricular arrhytmia. Don't pay any attention to it. Your heart looks in perfect condition, size and everything. There is not any sign of calcification in your aorta, in spite of yor 74 years. You eat far better than me and any other person I know. You exercise wisely and daily (interval exercising doing bicycle, swimming, hill climbing, etc). You are in a better shape than most men 20 or more years younger than you. I have no idea what to tell you do, except ... maybe pray, which you probably already do...! I am sure the many years I have been using hot peppers had something to do with these results. In my case, at the moment I was going through a lot of stress, and that created a temporary irregular situation that later came to normal. Watch for stress, whether it be emotional, from work or lack of it, economical or whatever. It can be a dangerous disease. It can produce a syndrome equivalent to Chronic Fatigue. It can be very destroying. Review yor eating habits and exercise. I hope my experience is of some help. Kindest regards, Carlos >From: Scott >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: RE: CS>CS & Lupus >Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:46:21 -0700 (PDT) > >Yes, I use it on at least one meal per day. It is very spicy and I cannot >eat a whole lot of it without it burning too much. Let me know if there >are other ways to ingest/use it. Thanks. > >In His Service, >Scott<>< > >Dee wrote: Have you tried cayenne, Scott, this is very >good for the heart. Dee > >---Original Message--- > > > >From: Scott > >Date: 04/09/2007 17:39:37 > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Subject: RE: CS>CS & Lupus > > > >At times my heart feels like it is not beating strongly. I'm not sure that >answers the irregular part. I have an appt with the pulmonologist next week >and hopefully he can help me with some of this problem. I do eat raw garlic >almost daily with at least one meal and use "Diamond Brand" Kosher Salt >which has no caking agents or additives in it and is made in purified fresh >water. I use it almost daily on my meals but have not used it in a glass of >water for quite awhile. I take potassium tabs each day but my doc says I am >still low overall on it. I will try the other items you suggested. Thanks, >Jess. Stay in touch. > > > >In His Service, > >Scott<>< > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silv
Re: CS>Staph in semen
My opinion: Try using an 8 to 2 ratio of CS to DMSO and spread on the whole groin area including the penis. Do this as much and many times you are able. Also, drink at least 8-16oz of CS on an empty stomach followed by distilled water (8 glasses per day). If you cannot get distilled water, use purified water. Also, try eating as much raw garlic as possible. I will definitely be praying for you and those affected. In the meantime, no sex with anyone, including yourself until the infection is gone. If it does not go away within a few days, you may have to use a strong antibiotic from the doctor. In His Service, Scott<>< Agumiri Ukwu wrote: Does anyone know what possible treatment for a suggested infection of staph in the semen. - Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.
Re: CS>Drab Posts
A I could agree that some posts are a bit drab, but that is one thing a MOUSE is good for, moving on to the next one. So use your mouse on my note and just move on. Ed. Why would I do that ? I think it is important. It gave me a question. What is a drab post ? If I knew that, I might stop writing them. Wayne
CS>eat raw eggs., Cholesterol ?
At 08:27 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: I understand, but does cake and ice cream agree with your high cholesterol for instance? This issue could get worse that organics and war. Does anyone know how to increase the cholesterol? Mine is too low. I have read that low cholesterol is worse than high. Actually I am not sure I believe much if any of the choleserol scam. But cholesterol is a necessary nutrient used by every cell in the body, so ... I want more, not less. Seriously, I am not kidding about this. My reading was 126, the lowest ever. It is usually 165 top 185, never over 212 many years ago. I have been eating less meat and much less food total. Likely I need 10 or 12 raw eggs per day. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Heart palpitations
Thank you but which form of magnesium are you suggesting. I've seen and taken magnesium stearate, magnesium chloride, etc. Simon Jester wrote: > Magnesium is one of the main minerals for a healthy > heart. Doctors will even give a magnesium shot when > one is having a heart attack. Orotates work best. This is a big (but not the only) reason that cayenne is so good for the heart - it is very high in magnesium... Interesting anecdote... The main study that is often quoted as 'proving' that aspirin prevents heart attacks used pure bayer aspirin - and magnesium is added to bayer aspirin during its manufacturing process... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour In His Service, Scott Young <>< - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
Re: CS>Drab Posts. Who Runs the Country ?
Evening Dee, >> At 12:18 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote: I was wondering that very thing Wayne. Dee It is a long story, and you might not believe it. This should be on the off topic list, ... Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Drab Posts
I could agree that some posts are a bit drab, but that is one thing a MOUSE is good for, moving on to the next one. So use your mouse on my note and just move on. Ed. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: CS>Drab Posts
Morning Chuck, At 12:14 PM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Gee, Mike musta sold the list... Ther's a NEW cop in town! You can be one too. Mike will usually let you state your opinion Once. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
Good Morning Richard, >>At 11:51 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Wayne, here in Spain some of the large olive groves are sprayed with copper water - and nothing else - to great effect although I am told they do not qualify for an "organic " certificate - regards - Richard Heck, they should call it "Mineral Water" or Mineral supplements. then it might pass. A bunch of nuts define the organic a little too tight. I spray folar nutrients on my plants. I bet that would block an organic certification. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
It was meant to be a joke Faith! I actually don't have high cholesterol, and if I did it wouldn't worry me as I think the whole cholesterol thing is an absolute scam and a myth. Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 05/09/2007 16:40:42 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. I understand, but does cake and ice cream agree with your high cholesterol For instance? Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. Well said. I think that depends... Mike already made my point for me... just going by superficial 'desire' and 'taste' would get most people to the grave much quicker than using the old noggin... You may be becoming a vegetarian. Interesting segue... or are you suggesting there is some kind of 'connection' between 'eating things that you like and agree with yhou' and being a 'vegetarian'? If so, then you would be wrong... Eggs are bad for you, in my opinion, I agree... Eggs are also one of the most nutritious foods on the planet... Now, care to explain why both statements can be true? and may children are very health and beautiful without them. And many die hiorrible deatsh without them too... your point being? The animals are exploited, even 'free-range', then killed. Yes - just like the carrots and taters... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Drab Posts. Who Runs the Country ?
I was wondering that very thing Wayne. Dee ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 05/09/2007 14:18:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Drab Posts. Who Runs the Country ? By the way, what happened to our friend Terry Chamberlain? I hope he is ok. . Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Drab Posts
Gee, Mike musta sold the list... Ther's a NEW cop in town! Chuck Try not to have a good time--this is supposed to be educational On 9/5/2007 7:40:34 AM, John Plumridge (bollyb...@yahoo.co.uk) wrote: > --On 5 September 2007 06:46:30 -0400 Simon Jester > wrote: > > > Now, that said - anyone who actually took the time to read everything > in > > the two books -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: CS & Lupus
Yeah, I meant 90,000. But it's only zeros... That's nothing. Wasn't bragging and I know that 90K is nowhere near a max, but 30k HU is usually the typical readily available. Chuck "You know that look women get when they want sex? - Me neither." Drew Carey On 9/5/2007 6:53:36 AM, Simon Jester (tansta...@libertytrek.org) wrote: > > > I've been able to take 9000 HU cayenne in a smoothie (heaping > > teaspoon) and just notice that it's > "spicy". > > I'm assuming you meant 90,000, not 9,000 (which is nothing)... > > Dr Schulze describes stopping many heart attacks in their tracks using a > potent cayenne tincture just as Carlos described... it is one of the > primary herbs in all of his formulas (even the eyebright/eyewash > formula)... he says it catalyzes the other herbs... > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: MMS miracles
Please, let us all know Ed. Dee ---Original Message--- From: m1mar...@aol.com Date: 05/09/2007 17:40:33 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Re: MMS miracles Without some one testing a product, how can anyone know it's effectiveness. So a few of us foolish folks will buy some and give it the acid test. When you are sick, and have not gotten any help from several doctors, who know nothing about it, what's left to do? The cost is a mere pittance to what a doctor's visit is. I have read all of the book, and the author seems like someone that wants to help others. He does seem to know his Chemistry, and has spent a great deal of time and money, in his quest for the Right Stuff . If this concoction works for me, should I say so, or just keep it to myself, at the risk of being labeled foolish. Ed. . -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS & Lupus
On 9/5/2007 6:15:00 AM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: > - Original Message - >As a scientist, Throckmorton knew that if he were ever to break wind in the >sound chamber he would never hear the end of it. Good 'un Just stole it... Chuck If you jog in a jogging suit, lounge in lounging pajamas, and smoke in a smoking jacket, WHY would anyone want to wear a windbreaker?? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: Drab Posts
Out of 50 mails I've seen almost no actual information whatsoever, apart from one about buttermilk on top of the fridge. Similarly, if it's a matter of personally thanking someone, then send the message to them not to the list. If you want a member to tell you where they shop, ask them privately, please. For the list to survive, remain useful, and retain valuable long-term members it needs to have a certain etiquette, about which I am touching upon. Hi John, Since you aren't the moderator, do you really expect anyone to obey you? Just curious... I've plead with people on many lists over the years, to please trim their posts, please don't top-post, etc etc, until my fingers cramped, and all I got from it was - cramped fingers... Also, it's usually not a good idea to just jump in telling people how to behave - generally, it puts people off and lessens the chances of them responding helpfully to any questions you might have - unless, of course, you have no questions and your only goal is to enlighten us with your wisdom - in which case, we'll find out soon enough if you have any... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: MMS miracles
Anyone who would just run out and buy this stuff and take it after a simple reading of the claims made by someone posting to an email list is an ignorant fool, and has probably fallen for every new scam product to hit the shelves and/or the internet in the last 10 years. I'd just augment this to say that it depends on the "someone" in question. Enthusiasm from people I've known for years and respect, counts for a lot in my book. But of course... :) If I were new to this list, or the information was from random people I didn't know, then skepticism would be essential. I am trying it. The cost is negligible and the testing of the claims so straighforward that it'd be silly not to, especially given the quality of some of the people I know who are taking it seriously. I look forward to hearing from those who are trying it - and I'll probably join them/you regardless... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
Wayne, here in Spain some of the large olive groves are sprayed with copper water - and nothing else - to great effect although I am told they do not qualify for an "organic " certificate - regards - Richard On 05/09/2007, at 18:04, CWFugitt wrote: At 09:55 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: That is an interesting idea. Although I doubt it is producing a colloid, it is likely producing copper compounds, which are taken to the leaves and branches. Copper is a very good antifungal substance, so it make sense. I wonder how much copper end up in the fruit. Too much copper can be toxic. Many growers use Copper Sulfate for various problems. Maybe it works like the copper bracket on the arm. Not sure I belive all that hype either. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>[List Owner] Topics...
Hi group! Let me clarify a few things about topics for the list... Way back when I first took over as list owner, I quickly learned that people will *ALWAYS* ask questions of the form: "What can I do for..." "Does anybody know about..." "Where can I find..." In other words, health related questions and topics that were not necessarily directly related to the main topic of Colloidal Silver. No amount of restrictions on those sorts of questions would have filtered them all out without rendering the list useless. After all, how can one even know if CS might be relevant, without first asking? Then, there are almost always people on the list who have answers to those questions, including answers that are not directly related to CS, and they ARE going to want to give them. Any attempt to censor them and force their contributions into private mail will be met with numerous requests for the same information, most of which *WILL* go through the list for the simple reason that you'll *NEVER* get everyone to be savvy and careful enough to use e-mail as skillfully as is possible. Given these *INEVITABLE* characteristics of human nature, the population of our group, and the nature of the medium, I quickly evolved certain rules for choosing topics to discuss: Certain topics are *STRONGLY* discouraged. Politics is prohibited except from brief heads-up notices of matters directly related to CS or important alternative health matters, with follow-up to be taken off-list or to our OT list. Religion, spirituality, or mysticism are prohibited since it is almost impossible to say anything on these topics that won't inflame or offend somebody. The debate over vegetarianism versus meat eating is one of these nearly "religious" topics. Like with religion, overt evangelization of either vegetarianism or meat eating is not welcome. It just should not become a topic for discussion. Nor can we demand that everyone conceal every concievable interest or attitude for fear of offending someone else. Some degree of tolerance is expected of all of us in exchange for the gross restrictions on these major controversial topics. Thus, passing mention of prohibited things, like the occasional "God Bless" or "You're in our prayers," or Wayne's mention of animal products in a smoothie, or your preference for a vegetarian lifestyle isn't out of order or "offensive," so long as it isn't confrontational or excessive. So, I expect, John P., that you will accept the notion that you share the list with people who do not believe as you do, and will extend to them the same respectfulness and freedom to choose which you expect in return. In simple terms, don't continue to hammer on vegetariansim. You're not going to convert anybody and it will interfere with your ability to interact with the group. Be yourself, and allow others to do the same. It takes effort to get along. You're all expected to make that effort. So, religion and politics are prohibited. What is allowed? Any health related question or issue may be raised and answers given, even if they don't relate to the main topic. CS related things can, of course, be discussed until the topic is exhausted. Non-CS related things OUGHT TO be discussed more briefly, so that basic curiosity can be satisfied and important resources be pointed out, then moved to the OT list, other forums, or private mail. In actual practice, topic control has tended toward a looser style, with wide-ranging alternative health related discussions allowed while waiting for questions related to CS to be asked. I'll step in occasionally to ask for topics to be retired that have gone on too long or are generating complaints. Now, that's not the only way a list can be run, but it is, effectively, how this one is working right now. As the needs and preferences of the members change, so will my moderation, within broad limits. In that interest, I ask that if you have complaints or suggestions, you direct them to me in private e-mail. I take such communications into consideration as I manage the people and discussion. If you see things deteriorating, of course, a heads-up to me is always welcome. I may have seen whatever it is already, but sometimes not. I do have to spend some time away from the computer, it seems. My e-mail address, plus the web site address for the list rules and instructions are always in the footer at the bottom of every message from the list. Please study the web site if you have any question about the rules and how the list is intended to work, or ask me. Thank you, everyone. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-li
Re: CS>Re: MMS miracles
Without some one testing a product, how can anyone know it's effectiveness. So a few of us foolish folks will buy some and give it the acid test. When you are sick, and have not gotten any help from several doctors, who know nothing about it, what's left to do? The cost is a mere pittance to what a doctor's visit is. I have read all of the book, and the author seems like someone that wants to help others. He does seem to know his Chemistry, and has spent a great deal of time and money, in his quest for the Right Stuff . If this concoction works for me, should I say so, or just keep it to myself, at the risk of being labeled foolish. Ed. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
RE: CS>Re: MLM, MMS, ???????
On 9/4/2007 10:40:55 PM, Gwlynda and David Irek (bulld...@irek.cbeyond.com) wrote: > Sorry I have not been in the loopcan someone please tell me what MLM, > MMS is and what it is used for.I promise I will catch up!! > > Gwlynda Irek, Country Ridge Bulldogs > Educational Program Coordinator > www.crbulldog.com > MLM = multilevel marketing not applicable in this case. MMS=Miracle Mineral Supplement Has CURED malaria in African trials. Go here, download the free part 1 book. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Read it, get up to speed. Buy ready made product here. http://www.globallight.net/Mms-Miracle-Mineral-Supplement.html There is no MLM involved. If you want to make it yourself, buy the part 2 of the book. Chuck When I was a kid I had a friend who worked in a radio station. Whenever we walked under a bridge, you couldn't hear what he said. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
Sounds like the electricity itself is producing a cure... On 9/5/07, CWFugitt wrote: > > At 09:55 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: > >That is an interesting idea. Although I doubt it is producing a colloid, > >it is likely producing copper compounds, which are taken to the leaves > and > >branches. Copper is a very good antifungal substance, so it make sense. > I > >wonder how much copper end up in the fruit. Too much copper can be > toxic. > > Many growers use Copper Sulfate for various problems. > > Maybe it works like the copper bracket on the arm. > >Not sure I belive all that hype either. > >Wayne > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CS>Staph in semen
> Does anyone know what possible treatment for a suggested infection of > staph in the semen. Welcome Agumiri, Colloidal silver is generally effective with conditions caused by bacteria. It requires that the silver get to where the bacteria is, however. An example would be Lyme disease, which is caused by a spirochete, a bacterium that turns out to be able to burrow into every inaccessible corner of the body's tissues and organs and can take a very long time to kill off. CS helps a lot, but for some people, it may not reach the bacteria everywhere it might hide and a cure requires them to pursue other treatments as well. There are other anti-bacterials, such as various herbs, extracts, oils, and so on. There are electronic devices that can be used to disrupt the bacteria in their hiding places, either killing them directly or else exposing them for destruction by the immune system. Solutions of sodium chlorite are getting some attention right now for their claimed effectiveness against just about everything. I hope others will chime in with more specific suggestions. Where are you from, and what kind of resources and facilities are available to you? Be well! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: MMS miracles
Simon J. wrote: > Anyone who would just run out and buy this stuff and take it after a > simple reading of the claims made by someone posting to an email list is > an ignorant fool, and has probably fallen for every new scam product to > hit the shelves and/or the internet in the last 10 years. I'd just augment this to say that it depends on the "someone" in question. Enthusiasm from people I've known for years and respect, counts for a lot in my book. If I were new to this list, or the information was from random people I didn't know, then skepticism would be essential. I am trying it. The cost is negligible and the testing of the claims so straighforward that it'd be silly not to, especially given the quality of some of the people I know who are taking it seriously. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
Faith G. writes: > Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not > really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. I'd agree with you if I didn't daily experience cravings for things that are *obviously* dangerous junk. If I were living where there was no junk food, I could pick what I wanted from the tree, bush and plant, and the game was fresh and plentiful, then I'd expect my natural and healthy appetite would re-emerge. Meanwhile... Be well, Mike D. > - Original Message - > From: "Dee " > > You are such a sensible person Carlos, I know what you say is pure logic > and sense, and I have overcome certain phobias about food, i.e. I can > eat raw spinach. However, this is because it is not that bad, but I > don't think I could eat raw okra because it is tough. Wish I could, > ditto the eggs. I give my dog raw eggs but he doesn't care what he > eats, as you say, he has no hangups. I do hope to conquer this though, > at least some of it. Dee [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
At 09:55 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: That is an interesting idea. Although I doubt it is producing a colloid, it is likely producing copper compounds, which are taken to the leaves and branches. Copper is a very good antifungal substance, so it make sense. I wonder how much copper end up in the fruit. Too much copper can be toxic. Many growers use Copper Sulfate for various problems. Maybe it works like the copper bracket on the arm. Not sure I belive all that hype either. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Staph in semen
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Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
I understand, but does cake and ice cream agree with your high cholesterol for instance? Faith - Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. I don't think that would be a good idea, Faith because I don't think cakes and ice cream would be too good for me! Dee PS thanks for your thought though. ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 05/09/2007 12:00:38 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not Really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Drab Posts
Hi Folk - I've re-joined the list, because I thought it was of high quality when a member a few years ago. Hope o learn and possibly share with you. Out of 50 mails I've seen almost no actual information whatsoever, apart from one about buttermilk on top of the fridge. Dear Sir: How can you possibly hope to learn anything from a 'high quality list' that has almost no actual information whatsoever? Similarly, if it's a matter of personally thanking someone, then send the message to them not to the list. If you want a member to tell you where they shop, ask them privately, please. Dear Sir: Are you the moderator all of a sudden? Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Email
Deltacom migrated our service and my email has been down since last Thursday. Hopefully everything is running correctly now, so anyone that needed info from me or tried to send info to me needs to resend emails. Thanks for your patience while they work out the bugs (maybe we ought to send em some CS?!?!). Ruth
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
William Missett wrote: Hi! I was just given a secret method for controlling tomato infections. I live in southern Mexico, and tomatos struggle to survive, so I hope this cure works, which it supposedly does in spades: Get a section of electric wiring with somewhat thick copper wiring, cut off a 2-3 inch section of an individual wire, and insert it through the stem of the tomato plant just above the roots. This creates a colloidal copper generation, which immunizes the tomato plant against a wide variety of common tomato diseases. Hope it helps! That is an interesting idea. Although I doubt it is producing a colloid, it is likely producing copper compounds, which are taken to the leaves and branches. Copper is a very good antifungal substance, so it make sense. I wonder how much copper end up in the fruit. Too much copper can be toxic. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>science and down-to-earth experience
I don't think you have a good understanding of science. Perhaps you are confusing medicine with science. Medical Science is a misnomer. There is no such thing. Science is the pursuit of Truth- it is truly a high calling. Science looks at things in depth and relates what is seen or experienced. A true scientific report rarely tells you right out what they think, they present the evidence and let the reader come to conclusions. I think you are confusing medicine with science; like I said, it is not, and real scientists will tell you so. Kathryn On Sep 5, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Faith Saint Francis wrote: Hi Forum! We’re back after a few days’ war with our server. The last lines of Dee’s message on crops >>as this is just my own reasoning without any valid scientific data to back it, I could quite well be wrong.<< got me thinking that we are (still) the slaves of “science”. Science, which needs to measure to be able to prove. Science which arrogantly wipes aside everything that is not university formed. Science .. which in all its value (quantum maths!) has rooted itself so hard and fast .. has grown to be so ‘accepted’ that all else is false or ridiculous. See, there is intuition also. There is down-to-earth experience and there are a lot of people out-there who have answers where ‘science’ has proved wrong or inappropriate in many different fields. Our dead or ‘incurable’ patients of different illnesses are the best example. I am a bit tired of ‘science’ .. don’t know ‘bout you FaithStFrancis Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
Morning John, >> At 06:42 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. Interesting, not sure who said that. Not sure I agree. Well said. You may be becoming a vegetarian. Eggs are bad for you, in my opinion, and may children are very health and beautiful without them. The animals are exploited, even 'free-range', then killed. I eat less meat as I get older, much less. I eat more fruit and vegetables when I can get them. I have a message from a healer of sorts. She says, point blank, that the vegetarians are harder to heal, stay sick the longest, and often never get well no matter what they do to them. Did you ever read the message about the two animals. One was wild and the other was domestic. The wild one may be killed by predators, may be killed by a hunter, or even one of his own kind. But he has a chance to live. The other, the domestic . is sure to be killed. Ever read what happens when all hunting is STOPPED. If you love animals, better find that one and read it. Vegetarianism is a lot like the people standing on the mountain top yelling "Organic Nutrients". They do not even know they are using "Chemical Fertilizer" also. Their are simply no other kind. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
I don't think that would be a good idea, Faith because I don't think cakes and ice cream would be too good for me! Dee PS thanks for your thought though. ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 05/09/2007 12:00:38 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not Really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. Faith -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>science and down-to-earth experience
Hi Forum! We’re back after a few days’ war with our server. The last lines of Dee’s message on crops >>as this is just my own reasoning without any valid scientific data to back >>it, I could quite well be wrong.<< got me thinking that we are (still) the slaves of “science”. Science, which needs to measure to be able to prove. Science which arrogantly wipes aside everything that is not university formed. Science .. which in all its value (quantum maths!) has rooted itself so hard and fast .. has grown to be so ‘accepted’ that all else is false or ridiculous. See, there is intuition also. There is down-to-earth experience and there are a lot of people out-there who have answers where ‘science’ has proved wrong or inappropriate in many different fields. Our dead or ‘incurable’ patients of different illnesses are the best example. I am a bit tired of ‘science’ .. don’t know ‘bout you FaithStFrancis _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
CS>Drab Posts. Who Runs the Country ?
Morning John, >> At 06:40 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Hi Folk - I've re-joined the list, because I thought it was of high quality when a member a few years ago. Hope o learn and possibly share with you. AFter the forst 50 mails, I have to request: could we keep reign in the advice to people which assumes they are all dummies and fools strictly limited and concentrate on giving our experience. The list is about silver primarily, and not about every herb under the sun. Also remember, many people are vegetarian, and don't want to hear about thoughtless eating of liver You are in the minority and sounds like your mind is made up on many subjects. This list is in fact made up by a bunch of dummies, idiots and worse, "Nuts Like ME", and a few others similar. Mike is the best, most understanding moderator I have ever seen. He know and understands our thinking. Honestly, I think he enjoys some of our crazy discussions. If you ask a question about CS, many of us will break our necks to help you. I ship free silver wire around the world. I make generators and give to people. And ship other free stuff to remote countries where they cannot buy it. I am on another list similar. I have met many of the people at an annual get together in Texas. Some of the smartest people in the world are on both list. Generally, anything any of them say, .. I want to listen and I am interested, no matter what the subject. Once on that list, one guy posted a message much like yours trying to stop all the messages not related to the number one subject. We all humored him for a day or two and the list became near dead and very boring. On it, we post jokes, political messages, messages about immigration, and I post some selected ones on health and nutrition. Many of them are older and many have back and joint pains. Some days, and for several days, no one asks a question about CS. Most of us now know everything. Dan Nave and I tossed together the small file area with carefully selected files to assist the beginner. Some of them are idea for the intermediate and advanced User. By the way, what happened to our friend Terry Chamberlain? I hope he is ok. One final question... What political group or what religion do you call it when "The minority rules". Sounds like a dictatorship to me. Wayne === --- "Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Silver file Area... http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ MDI Subscribe Email mdi_news-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
Hi! I was just given a secret method for controlling tomato infections. I live in southern Mexico, and tomatos struggle to survive, so I hope this cure works, which it supposedly does in spades: Get a section of electric wiring with somewhat thick copper wiring, cut off a 2-3 inch section of an individual wire, and insert it through the stem of the tomato plant just above the roots. This creates a colloidal copper generation, which immunizes the tomato plant against a wide variety of common tomato diseases. Hope it helps! - Original Message - From: "Dee" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: CS>Organics, ... I appreciate your point of view Wayne, and Mike's patience. I still feel that natural substances allowed to rot down as compost, should have a more balanced benefit than chemicals which have been put together for a specific reason i.e. to grow more tomatoes on one plant, say. Maybe I am wrong, but there must be some reason for our crops in this day and age, having less nutrient value than they had in the past. This is what is being told to us ad infinitum, so there must be a reason for this, and the pesticide/chemical formula used by so many growers, is the thing that springs to mind. Also acid rain I suppose. However, as this is just my own reasoning without any valid scientific data to back it, I could quite well be wrong. Can you then tell us the reason for the decline in nutrient value of crops? Dee ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 05/09/2007 00:42:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Organics, ... Evening Dee, Faith and others interested. Be aware that I am not picking on you by any means. I need to address the message to someone. At 12:15 PM 9/4/2007, you wrote: I have done all but beg someone to tell me the name of an organic plant nutrient. And I mean the chemical composition. I realize that most cannot do this. Most organic nutrient products will not tell you that, even if the people selling them know. I think some of the do in fact know. One thing I failed to point out in the example that Faith gave, is that, the strong ammonia smell of the manure indicates strongly that part of the Nitrogen is in fact Ammonia form nitrogen. The plant cannot eat it, not one molecule of it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: MMS miracles
Morning Simon, >> At 05:46 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Anyone who would just run out and buy this stuff and take it after a simple reading of the claims made by someone posting to an email list is an ignorant fool, and has probably fallen for every new scam product to hit the shelves and/or the internet in the last 10 years. I agree with most of your logic, maybe all of it. I liked part one over part 2. Even if I never give it a thougth to read part 2 or buy any, Part one reads a bit like an adventure story. The first part of "Mad Cow, USA" sound like an adventure story also. Wayne --- "Many people would sooner die than think. In fact they do. http://www.miraclemineral.org/ Silver file Area... http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ MDI Subscribe Email mdi_news-subscr...@yahoogroups.com -
Re: CS>Re: Rosemary Jacobs, get the file
Morning Simon, At 05:35 AM 9/5/2007, you wrote: Another reason to use a decent mail client like Thunderbird - you can 'tag' messages with as many different tags as you like (and create as many different tags as you like), to make finding saved messages a breeze... Call it whatever you want, but is sure sounds like a relational data base to me. Or multiple indexes, or it might be called Structured Query Language. Still, no magic to it. One good programmer someplace. My fist love of computers were databases. After about 10,000 hours I could make them talk. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Organics, ...........
I appreciate your point of view Wayne, and Mike's patience. I still feel that natural substances allowed to rot down as compost, should have a more balanced benefit than chemicals which have been put together for a specific reason i.e. to grow more tomatoes on one plant, say. Maybe I am wrong, but there must be some reason for our crops in this day and age, having less nutrient value than they had in the past. This is what is being told to us ad infinitum, so there must be a reason for this, and the pesticide/chemical formula used by so many growers, is the thing that springs to mind. Also acid rain I suppose. However, as this is just my own reasoning without any valid scientific data to back it, I could quite well be wrong. Can you then tell us the reason for the decline in nutrient value of crops? Dee ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 05/09/2007 00:42:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Organics, ... Evening Dee, Faith and others interested. Be aware that I am not picking on you by any means. I need to address the message to someone. >> At 12:15 PM 9/4/2007, you wrote: I have done all but beg someone to tell me the name of an organic plant nutrient. And I mean the chemical composition. I realize that most cannot do this. Most organic nutrient products will not tell you that, even if the people selling them know. I think some of the do in fact know. One thing I failed to point out in the example that Faith gave, is that, the strong ammonia smell of the manure indicates strongly that part of the Nitrogen is in fact Ammonia form nitrogen. The plant cannot eat it, not one molecule of it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>THICK TOENAILS
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Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
--On 5 September 2007 06:43:27 -0400 faith gagne wrote: Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. Well said. You may be becoming a vegetarian. Eggs are bad for you, in my opinion, and may children are very health and beautiful without them. The animals are exploited, even 'free-range', then killed. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Drab Posts
--On 5 September 2007 06:46:30 -0400 Simon Jester wrote: Now, that said - anyone who actually took the time to read everything in the two books (I've only just started the first), then decided to simply 'suspend disbelief' and give it a shot, is what I would call open-minded and adventurous... Sounds just like the writer himself. Hi Folk - I've re-joined the list, because I thought it was of high quality when a member a few years ago. Hope o learn and possibly share with you. AFter the forst 50 mails, I have to request: could we keep reign in the advice to people which assumes they are all dummies and fools strictly limited and concentrate on giving our experience. The list is about silver primarily, and not about every herb under the sun. Also remember, many people are vegetarian, and don't want to hear about thoughtless eating of liver ( no doubt from the supermarkets) and what ever. I do agree, herbs as supplement along with silver, or where silver cannot do may be advised and are useful to pass under our nose. However, cayenne is cayenne, yet varies by every locality and batch and every seed is adapting. No Doctor has the best one, and we do not all exist to shop in America. May just as well say grow your own in your own composted excrement, which perhaps is the best for you after all . If we are talking about formulae for herbs, that is different: we could mention a Dr's formulae or our own, but if it's a matter of recommending the one product for sale we have stumbled upon, even after reading their book, and liking the doctors' honest style, without appreciation of the actual cocktail, then why bother? The are tens of thousands or millions, many almost similar, and many different cocktails aimed at the same condition. One or two are no doubt useful cocktails, often copied and never so original, really. We can just serf the net and grab any one of them, or begin to read about it. Why clog a list with this kind of first time adventure. So if we mention cocktails, lets talk about the actual composition, or if a specific herb, then about it's well-considered properties. Quote>Anyone who would just run out and buy this stuff and take it after a simple reading of the claims made by someone posting to an email list is an ignorant fool, and has probably fallen for every new scam product to hit the shelves and/or the internet in the last 10 years. true enough. And may I say, we require only good local fresh produce,and avoidance of all processed and packaged food, including health foods, which are also processed by the illuminati who do all major food processing in the West. No panaceas whatsoever, to cleanse or heal. However if we get infections, then we need silver or iodine or something, or could do better with it, perhaps. We may also need the scalpel, first, if the infection cannot get past , for example the sheath in the hand, or we risk losing our fingers. Cleansing is a slow process, and we cannot help by putting our faith in one herb or cocktail: many help and so does most of our (vegetable) food. Fasting is the greatest aid and a fresh home-made vegetarian diet (no canned beans , please!) How many here, have such a diet? There is almost no takeaway food, or shop food that could possibly serve a healthy diet. You have to have fruit trees at home or locally etc. Take the trouble to grow at least one vegetable in your garden, or on common land, or on your window sill. And you need to rip out the poisonous building materials in your home. Out of 50 mails I've seen almost no actual information whatsoever, apart from one about buttermilk on top of the fridge. Similarly, if it's a matter of personally thanking someone, then send the message to them not to the list. If you want a member to tell you where they shop, ask them privately, please. For the list to survive, remain useful, and retain valuable long-term members it needs to have a certain etiquette, about which I am touching upon. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs.
Dee, why bother to try to cultivate a taste for stuff your body may not really want? Just eat the things you like and that agree with you. Faith - Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:10 AM Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. You are such a sensible person Carlos, I know what you say is pure logic and sense, and I have overcome certain phobias about food, i.e. I can eat raw spinach. However, this is because it is not that bad, but I don't think I could eat raw okra because it is tough. Wish I could, ditto the eggs. I give my dog raw eggs but he doesn't care what he eats, as you say, he has no hangups. I do hope to conquer this though, at least some of it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Carlos Pérez Date: 09/05/07 04:40:00 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>An even easier way to eat raw eggs. Friends, Concerning raw eggs, I honestly believe the right approach is a totally Different one. It is a matter of learned apprehentions to see, understand And overcome. To be natural again is not that difficult. Have you ever Tried? Why make so complicated something that is so easy? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>cayenne
I may have sent this before, but it's still a good read. Dr. Christopher story. http://www.zhealthinfo.com/doctor.htm (scroll down to, * Blood Circulation Formula * ) Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>THICK TOENAILS
> Sounds good but I am allergic to iodine .. had a very bad reaction to it > years ago. > Thanks for offering your help ... > Judy You might look at this = http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=816 Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: CS & Lupus
I've been able to take 9000 HU cayenne in a smoothie (heaping teaspoon) and just notice that it's "spicy". I'm assuming you meant 90,000, not 9,000 (which is nothing)... Dr Schulze describes stopping many heart attacks in their tracks using a potent cayenne tincture just as Carlos described... it is one of the primary herbs in all of his formulas (even the eyebright/eyewash formula)... he says it catalyzes the other herbs... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
