Re: CSD3 fro Flu Prevention
My naturopath has me on 5000 IU of D3 daily here in Alaska, even in the summertime with the sun out all day and night. She indicates that the body doesn't absorb all the D it needs from the just the sun. I haven't specifically talked to her about H1N1. However, the 5000 IU's are supposed to be effective in keeping me free of normal flu. I have been following this regiment successfully for about a year without a flu. No, I do not intend to get any flu sots. Mari Well, I had not seen any recommended dosages, and had read that 15 minutes in the noon sun will produce 40,000 units, and that once you have that amount the conversion shuts down. So I figured that if I got to 50% of what the sun produces, it should offer me pretty good protection, and still be 50% below any possible toxic level. I could be off base. I was surprised to see others are taking about 1/5 that amount, so I may back down (well actually since the capsules are 5,000 each, I cannot back down to below that amount until I get some lower dosage ones). Here is information on the safe levels of vitamin D: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_D Marshall Garnet wrote: Are you dividing your dose or taking it all at the same time? I have not heard of anyone taking 20,000 iu? Is that an idea you just decided to try or did hear of it somewhere? Just curious. Garnet Marshall Dudley wrote: Yes, I have avoided everything, with seemingly everyone else sick around me. I have been taking 5,000 a day, then upping it to 20,000 when I am out and around a crowd of sick people. Marshall Garnet wrote: Vit D3 is the best flu preventative, 400 iu for kids and 2000 iu for adults. You can order here and they will give you 400 tabs free for your kids. http://www.vitamind3world.com/Vitamin_D_Buy_cancer_diabetes_MS.html Garnet
Re: CSD3 fro Flu Prevention
My naturopath has me on 5000 IU of D3 daily here in Alaska, even in the summertime with the sun out all day and night. She indicates that the body doesn't absorb all the D it needs from the just the sun. I haven't specifically talked to her about H1N1. However, the 5000 IU's are supposed to be effective in keeping me free of normal flu. I have been following this regiment successfully for about a year without a flu. No, I do not intend to get any flu sots. Mari Well, I had not seen any recommended dosages, and had read that 15 minutes in the noon sun will produce 40,000 units, and that once you have that amount the conversion shuts down. So I figured that if I got to 50% of what the sun produces, it should offer me pretty good protection, and still be 50% below any possible toxic level. I could be off base. I was surprised to see others are taking about 1/5 that amount, so I may back down (well actually since the capsules are 5,000 each, I cannot back down to below that amount until I get some lower dosage ones). Here is information on the safe levels of vitamin D: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervitaminosis_D Marshall Garnet wrote: Are you dividing your dose or taking it all at the same time? I have not heard of anyone taking 20,000 iu? Is that an idea you just decided to try or did hear of it somewhere? Just curious. Garnet Marshall Dudley wrote: Yes, I have avoided everything, with seemingly everyone else sick around me. I have been taking 5,000 a day, then upping it to 20,000 when I am out and around a crowd of sick people. Marshall Garnet wrote: Vit D3 is the best flu preventative, 400 iu for kids and 2000 iu for adults. You can order here and they will give you 400 tabs free for your kids. http://www.vitamind3world.com/Vitamin_D_Buy_cancer_diabetes_MS.html Garnet
RE: CSExtraction Methods for Peperine
Is it possible to make with without using the microwave? Can you use a toaster oven or regular oven? Dianne Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:18:21 -0500 From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSExtraction Methods for Peperine Just FYI. Some surprisingly easy methods for extracting Peperine from black pepper from http://www.curevents.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25598. - Steve N Black pepper, by itself, is not a very efficient way to increase the uptake of curcumin. Piperine makes up only about 3% mass (dry) of the pepper. The breakdown of the pepper material will also cause a lag in piperine availability. Extraction is neccessary. I have a great deal of experience extracting piperine using househould items and have 27g of pure yellow crystals sitting on my desk at this moment. Here is how I do it. Microwave(*1) ~100g of crushed black pepper spread out on a plate; make sure you have a small glass of water also in the microwave to prevent feedback to the magnetron. Shake this microwaved pepper in a mason jar with either denatured alcohol from a harware store or anhydrous isopropyl alcohol(*2) (IPA, rubbing alcohol) for about 10 minutes. You now need to filter out the solids from this mix. I usually make a two stage filter out of the top half of a 1 liter water bottle, a generic cooking funnel, and a few coffee filters. http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/5346/filtersetup1rt.gif Once this finishes filtering you can then evaporate the solvents off the piperine by pouring the solution into a pan with a large surface area and very gently heating it (I sometimes just let it sit without heat for a day or so when lazy). This should leave you with a sticky yellow crystaline substance with bits of brown gel mixed in (this brown is chavacine, responsible for the smell of pepper). Scrape this mix up and disolve in acetone, filter again, then recrystalize by either evaporating off the solvent or dumping the solution into a liter or two of ice cold water. This should leave you with fairly pure piperine. (1) Microwaving black pepper in a non-polar solvent (or by itself) will tend to cause cell rupture allowing for easier extraction of piperine. http://rapidshare.de/files/6610631/Microwave_assisted_extraction_of_piperine.pdf.html (2) You can make dry IPA fairly easily. Buy epsom salts from a grocery store and heat in the oven for ~15 minutes to drive off moisture. Put an appreciable amount of now dry epsom salts into the rubbing alcohol and shake like mad for a minute. Filter the mix and you should have pure IPA without water. It's best to start with 91% IPA if possible but 70% will do. _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc? - Original Message - From: Melly Bag To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to the 20 Mule website, it states that once upon a time before FDA rules were in place, their product was used for health reasons. Melly --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net wrote: From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster. a caution, contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that is? jim Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
If you sprinkle (flour shifter works) borax on your carpet and let sit overnight it will kill the fleas, vacuum well the next day and repeat a few days later.Might need to do this every week or two until you have it under control. Do not put it on your dogs. Sam L. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote: It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc? - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to the 20 Mule website, it states that once upon a time before FDA rules were in place, their product was used for health reasons. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net* wrote: From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster. a caution, contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that is?jim Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.comwrote: I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CSOT boron and borax
concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean what's the difference. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that I make myself. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: then how do you take it as a supplement/ - Original Message - From: frankcuns-r...@comcast.net frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax IS NOT safe to eat Frank ND Fuzzmom wrote: Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/ - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine. Why don't you just buy the supplement Boron. There is a liquid supplement of silica with boron which i take by jarrows. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed /pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote: From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen
Re: CSSeptic Tank Safety
2009/9/30 zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. Thank you for this link. i have only just joined and already am entranced reading the posts. Thank you Kirsteen
Re: CSSeptic Tank Safety
;-) Kirsteen Wright wrote: 2009/9/30 zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. Thank you for this link. i have only just joined and already am entranced reading the posts. Thank you Kirsteen
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
Hi Sam, Yes, One can indeed use borax on animals. It is a well reputed cure for mange. I used to use it, quite dilute as a soap / fur conditioner for dogs and cats before i heard of the mange treatment.. Google 'mange borax' and you get lots of hits. One that i've been to is : http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html OK, Tony Moody On 30 Sep 2009 at 2:15, Sam L. wrote about : Subject : Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax If you sprinkle (flour shifter works) borax on your carpet and let sit overnight it will kill the fleas, vacuum well the next day and repeat a few days later.Might need to do this every week or two until you have it under control. Do not put it on your dogs. Sam L. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote: It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc? - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to the 20 Mule website, it states that once upon a time before FDA rules were in place, their product was used for health reasons. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net* wrote: From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster. a caution, contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that is?jim Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silv er-l...@eskimo.comwrote: I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=p j20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silv er-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silv er-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compo se?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdevour @eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: CSOT boron and borax
I just spread the powder on the carpeting and dogs bedding and left it there, Next week did the same thing.Once the fleas were gone I swept it all up. They never came back. If you are allergic then why not stay with friends until this job is finished? zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. - Original Message - *From:* zoe w mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Silver cannot kill anything other than a single celled organism. dee On 30 Sep 2009, at 08:48, Fuzzmom wrote: It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc? -
Re: CSOT boron and borax
They are called Concentrace and are trace minerals. dee On 30 Sep 2009, at 09:17, Fuzzmom wrote: concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean what's the difference. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I would check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for harming someone's pet. I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who was a herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it can be used to bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on from a local herbalist. I can't remember which one but it was either Neale's Yard or Napiers. Cheers Kirsteen
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Hi List Borax is an industrial chemical which contains boron as well as a collection of allowable impurities. If you enjoy eating them, go ahead. Frank Chemist, ND Fuzzmom wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? - Original Message - *From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSExtraction Methods for Peperine
I haven't tried it but I don't know why not. - Steve N From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Sep 30 01:44:51 2009 Subject: RE: CSExtraction Methods for Peperine Is it possible to make with without using the microwave? Can you use a toaster oven or regular oven? Dianne Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:18:21 -0500 From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSExtraction Methods for Peperine Just FYI. Some surprisingly easy methods for extracting Peperine from black pepper from http://www.curevents.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25598 http://www.curevents.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25598 . - Steve N Black pepper, by itself, is not a very efficient way to increase the uptake of curcumin. Piperine makes up only about 3% mass (dry) of the pepper. The breakdown of the pepper material will also cause a lag in piperine availability. Extraction is neccessary. I have a great deal of experience extracting piperine using househould items and have 27g of pure yellow crystals sitting on my desk at this moment. Here is how I do it. Microwave(*1) ~100g of crushed black pepper spread out on a plate; make sure you have a small glass of water also in the microwave to prevent feedback to the magnetron. Shake this microwaved pepper in a mason jar with either denatured alcohol from a harware store or anhydrous isopropyl alcohol(*2) (IPA, rubbing alcohol) for about 10 minutes. You now need to filter out the solids from this mix. I usually make a two stage filter out of the top half of a 1 liter water bottle, a generic cooking funnel, and a few coffee filters. http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/5346/filtersetup1rt.gif http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/5346/filtersetup1rt.gif Once this finishes filtering you can then evaporate the solvents off the piperine by pouring the solution into a pan with a large surface area and very gently heating it (I sometimes just let it sit without heat for a day or so when lazy). This should leave you with a sticky yellow crystaline substance with bits of brown gel mixed in (this brown is chavacine, responsible for the smell of pepper). Scrape this mix up and disolve in acetone, filter again, then recrystalize by either evaporating off the solvent or dumping the solution into a liter or two of ice cold water. This should leave you with fairly pure piperine. (1) Microwaving black pepper in a non-polar solvent (or by itself) will tend to cause cell rupture allowing for easier extraction of piperine. http://rapidshare.de/files/6610631/Microwave_assisted_extraction_of_piperine.pdf.html http://rapidshare.de/files/6610631/Microwave_assisted_extraction_of_piperine.pdf.html (2) You can make dry IPA fairly easily. Buy epsom salts from a grocery store and heat in the oven for ~15 minutes to drive off moisture. Put an appreciable amount of now dry epsom salts into the rubbing alcohol and shake like mad for a minute. Filter the mix and you should have pure IPA without water. It's best to start with 91% IPA if possible but 70% will do. Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
Kirsteen and others, Would you know if this pennyroyal would also work for mites? Thanks. Melly --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:21 AM I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen
CSSnails and moles
Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Doug... Thank you very much for putting this LET info in one place. Now we can easily send people to your site to get all the ins and outs of what they need to know to make LET vit. C. Greatly appreciated! Sandy --- On Tue, 9/29/09, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote: From: polo dah...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 11:00 PM You might check out my new webpage: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/LET/let.html I tried to summarize everything, doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSnails and moles
We used to put out jar lids full of beer for the slugs, not sure if it works on snails but worth a try. An adult gopher-snake will take care of the mole and any others that may take up residence. They also eat gophers, voles, shrews, etc. zoe Jayson wrote: Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
I ordered this book and it came yesterday. It does have some interesting ideas. However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do. For instance, I was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium chlorite... Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it. So before converting drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first. That works out to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would end up being 4 grams. Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day without digestive problems. So I checked the msds, and found that the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount. The amount recommended would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill them at worst. So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88 There he says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. Ahh, now he has it right. The first place I read his recommendation produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting. Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but others may not be so fortunate. But now I am puzzled. Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly alkaline. But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually. So how does this improve your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSnails and moles
Slugs are repelled by caffeine. I would suspect snails are too. You could try sprinkling coffee grounds around (or spray Mountain Dew?). Dan On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Jayson john_smith...@yahoo.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSnails and moles
In the Philippines people apply course sea salt. This is how to do it, take the snail and sprinkle salt inside the shell, you will see later water oozing out that is because the snail seems to melt. It will kill it. Alternatively, if there are many of them, gather them and dump them in a basin filled with water with lots of sea salt. They also die this way. Melly --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Jayson john_smith...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jayson john_smith...@yahoo.com Subject: CSSnails and moles To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:22 AM Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
My pleasure! May I thank Brooks Bradley for his kindness in sharing his information, and I am only trying to distribute his information further. I hope I did him justice. doug - Original Message - From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Doug... Thank you very much for putting this LET info in one place. Now we can easily send people to your site to get all the ins and outs of what they need to know to make LET vit. C. Greatly appreciated! Sandy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years. I have tried all the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked. The only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication. FINALLY, I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas. I started putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been flea free for several months now. It has been a god send for us. He doesn't seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness. I am so happy to spread the word about this and hope it helps someone else! - Original Message - From: Fuzzmom To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: CSSnails and moles
We are coffee drinkers, and this summer my husband applied all our used grounds to the hosta beds, since we were having slug problems. They really don't seem to like the coffee grounds. Can't be fun to crawl over either. On Sep 30, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Dan Nave wrote: Slugs are repelled by caffeine. I would suspect snails are too. You could try sprinkling coffee grounds around (or spray Mountain Dew?). Dan On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Jayson john_smith...@yahoo.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT boron and borax
Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj I've done it for a few years now, no negatives particular to the borax and finger method, except this- I did three different methods to the edge of excess just to see what would happen. I separately did the finger in the borax, took a boron supp, and drank a lot of Bragg vinegar (organic apples are rich in boron). All three, to excess, gave a funny feeling after about 2 weeks. Boron is not something to overdo, a little goes a long way. The borax method is my favorite. DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, Id love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. (alternative- add 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate and let it fizz and dissolve to make 2/3 Sodium Ascorbate for encapsulation) Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. (Drop this next step if you made sodium ascorbate previously) Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated. doug - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I ordered this book and it came yesterday. It does have some interesting ideas. However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do. For instance, I was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium chlorite... Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it. So before converting drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first. That works out to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would end up being 4 grams. Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day without digestive problems. So I checked the msds, and found that the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount. The amount recommended would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill them at worst. So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88 There he says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. Ahh, now he has it right. The first place I read his recommendation produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting. Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but others may not be so fortunate. But now I am puzzled. Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly alkaline. But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually. So how does this improve your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Polo, DaddyBob points out an important step if you want the best encapsulation success: ... blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Use of a blender or shaker dramatically improves the process. I would recommend it be added to your description. Regards, Steve N -Original Message- From: rans...@atmc.net [mailto:rans...@atmc.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, I'd love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. (alternative- add 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate and let it fizz and dissolve to make 2/3 Sodium Ascorbate for encapsulation) Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. (Drop this next step if you made sodium ascorbate previously) Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSnails and moles
For slugs and snails put out shallow containers with straight sides full of cheap beer. We got rid of three hundred of them this way (we counted) and they just love it! dee On 30 Sep 2009, at 14:22, Jayson wrote: Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Good idea, thanks d - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:10 AM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Polo, DaddyBob points out an important step if you want the best encapsulation success: ... blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Use of a blender or shaker dramatically improves the process. I would recommend it be added to your description. Regards, Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSnails and moles
Sounds a bit cruel though, at least with the beer, they die happy! dee On 30 Sep 2009, at 15:36, Melly Bag wrote: In the Philippines people apply course sea salt. This is how to do it, take the snail and sprinkle salt inside the shell, you will see later water oozing out that is because the snail seems to melt. It will kill it. Alternatively, if there are many of them, gather them and dump them in a basin filled with water with lots of sea salt. They also die this way. Melly
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
This is needed very much. If someone wants to put one together, I will be happy to post it to a website where anyone can easily access it. Marshall Garnet wrote: Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Ok, I have made two batches of liposomal absorbate using slight variation.I use the basic recipe below but add two oz. of DW in which I have dissolved the 3/4 tsp. of bob's baking soda. I then slowly pour the baking soda/DW solution SLOWLY into the Vitamin C / DW solution.There really isn't much bubbling. Then I combine with the dissolved lecithin solution in the blender and give about a 3 second blend before pouring into the ulta-sonic unit. My belief is it results in the baking soda being encapsulated as well so (in theory) it will join the Vitamin C in the blood stream. Would sure like Brooks or someone equally as adept to confirm this theory. The process does make a good blend and absolutely no separation. Del - Original Message - From: rans...@atmc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:55 AM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Not pretending to be any expert at this, and giving credit where it's due to Brooks, Chuck and Del, here's an update to my own instructions that I used again just yesterday: UC: Ultrasonic cleaner (jewelry cleaner) I use the small cheap one from Harbor Freight. Any water for such a project, distilled or not, I always treat it with a Blue Stirwand. http://www.quantumbalancing.com/stirwand.htm I am presently using NOW granular soy lecithin. Lewis Labs also makes it. No one has yet shown me another non-soy granular lecithin that will work. If anyone finds it, I'd love to know about it. Liquid lecithin will not work because of oil in it. I use non-GMO, non corn L-Ascorbic Acid from www.vitamincfoundation.org . In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. (alternative- add 1 teaspoon sodium bicarbonate and let it fizz and dissolve to make 2/3 Sodium Ascorbate for encapsulation) Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. Pour it out of the UC into a half gallon pitcher for the next step. (Drop this next step if you made sodium ascorbate previously) Add ¾ teaspoon of baking soda to the 3 ounces of DW and stir or shake a bit. Add this to the mix in the pitcher. It will foam a lot. Let the head go down before decanting into the final container. Refrigerate. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Roger Barker wrote: Here's the one Daddybob sent me a few weeks ago - hope it helps. There has been some talk of adding the baking soda to the C before encapsulation. I have tried this once and will certainly be giving it another go shortly. Cheers, Roger B NZ From several people who posted their methods in various forums, and my own experience, here is my method: In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well (in a blender) until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until all is dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. How much time is a cycle? My ultrasonic cleaner lets you set the time, so I really have no idea how to convert cycles to the appropriate time. Also are there recommendations on which units work best. I recall that there was a discussion that some of them simply do not have the umph to be effective. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
Marshall, The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested. Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or alkaline substances and controlling blood pH. That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have. - Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated. doug - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I ordered this book and it came yesterday. It does have some interesting ideas. However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do. For instance, I was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium chlorite... Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it. So before converting drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first. That works out to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would end up being 4 grams. Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day without digestive problems. So I checked the msds, and found that the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount. The amount recommended would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill them at worst. So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88 There he says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. Ahh, now he has it right. The first place I read his recommendation produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting. Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but others may not be so fortunate. But now I am puzzled. Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly alkaline. But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually. So how does this improve your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Directly, that is correct. It can kill other things though by killing the flora it needs for digestion. I found that out the hard way by having it tested on honeybees. Marshall Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Silver cannot kill anything other than a single celled organism. dee On 30 Sep 2009, at 08:48, Fuzzmom wrote: It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc? - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
For those who want an inexpensive finger dip dosage of boron, and are wary of any impurities that may be in borax, you can get USP boric acid from most pharmacies which is an inexpensive very very pure source of boron. Marshall frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote: Hi List Borax is an industrial chemical which contains boron as well as a collection of allowable impurities. If you enjoy eating them, go ahead. Frank Chemist, ND Fuzzmom wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? - Original Message - *From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSnails and moles
If you are over 21, you can put glasses of beer outside and they will be attracted to them, drink the beer, get drunk, fall in and drown. Marshall Jayson wrote: Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT boron / PURE SOURCE
[Marshall] For those who want an inexpensive finger dip dosage of boron, and are wary of any impurities that may be in borax, you can get USP boric acid from most pharmacies which is an inexpensive very very pure source of boron. === Thanks Marshall! This is valuable information. Boron supplements are quite expensive, and this may be a good alternative. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009), now available in HARDCOVER The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/
RE: CSOT boron / PURE SOURCE
Does USP boric acid we can get from drug store shelf or we need to ask pharmacist to make for us? What USP boric acid general use for? I am totally no science background. thanks. Helen --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net Subject: RE: CSOT boron / PURE SOURCE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:51 AM [ Marshall ] For those who want an inexpensive finger dip dosage of boron, and are wary of any impurities that may be in borax, you can get USP boric acid from most pharmacies which is an inexpensive very very pure source of boron. === Thanks Marshall ! This is valuable information. Boron supplements are quite expensive, and this may be a good alternative. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009), now available in HARDCOVER The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy www.nenahsylver.com
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Here is the link to non soy powdered lecithin. http://www.austradeinc.com/non-soy-lecithin-powder.html Dave On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Garnet gar...@grandecom.net wrote: Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
Although the pH aspect of it made no sense to me, what you say does make good sense. I think I will give it a try. Hmm, I guess 15 drops of 2% would be equivalent to about 1 drop of 28% MMS, which I have on hand. Marshall polo wrote: I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated. doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water makes an effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's remedy of choice in the 50's. It may also be helpful for other things. I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would be needed. Somebody could do the math on it. Kathryn On Sep 30, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: For those who want an inexpensive finger dip dosage of boron, and are wary of any impurities that may be in borax, you can get USP boric acid from most pharmacies which is an inexpensive very very pure source of boron. Marshall frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote: Hi List Borax is an industrial chemical which contains boron as well as a collection of allowable impurities. If you enjoy eating them, go ahead. Frank Chemist, ND Fuzzmom wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? - Original Message - *From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
You are correct that the body maintains the blood pH within a very narrow range. It really never gets out of range, the problem is the problems the body creates for itself maintaining this pH. It strips calcium from the bones, it causes overload of the liver and kidneys expelling the acid, and according to the book, it stashes acids away into fat. The book contends that much obesity is caused by the body storing fat simply to be able to stash acids away in the fat. That if the body is not having to do this, it will burn the fat instead. Interesting theory at any rate. Marshall Norton, Steve wrote: Marshall, The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested. Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or alkaline substances and controlling blood pH. That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have. - Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated. doug - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I ordered this book and it came yesterday. It does have some interesting ideas. However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do. For instance, I was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium chlorite... Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it. So before converting drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first. That works out to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would end up being 4 grams. Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day without digestive problems. So I checked the msds, and found that the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount. The amount recommended would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill them at worst. So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88 There he says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. Ahh, now he has it right. The first place I read his recommendation produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting. Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but others may not be so fortunate. But now I am puzzled. Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly alkaline. But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually. So how does this improve your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
That is interesting. Thanks. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics You are correct that the body maintains the blood pH within a very narrow range. It really never gets out of range, the problem is the problems the body creates for itself maintaining this pH. It strips calcium from the bones, it causes overload of the liver and kidneys expelling the acid, and according to the book, it stashes acids away into fat. The book contends that much obesity is caused by the body storing fat simply to be able to stash acids away in the fat. That if the body is not having to do this, it will burn the fat instead. Interesting theory at any rate. Marshall Norton, Steve wrote: Marshall, The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested. Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or alkaline substances and controlling blood pH. That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have. - Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated. doug - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I ordered this book and it came yesterday. It does have some interesting ideas. However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do. For instance, I was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium chlorite... Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it. So before converting drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first. That works out to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would end up being 4 grams. Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day without digestive problems. So I checked the msds, and found that the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount. The amount recommended would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill them at worst. So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88 There he says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. Ahh, now he has it right. The first place I read his recommendation produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting. Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but others may not be so fortunate. But now I am puzzled. Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly alkaline. But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually. So how does this improve your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Be careful with boric acid for eyes. They come in different strengths. My grandma had an eye surgery for cataracts and the nurse used a stronger boric acid than what doc ordered and she got blind. Ask your eye doctor what strength should be used for eyes. Melly --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:10 PM In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water makes an effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's remedy of choice in the 50's. It may also be helpful for other things. I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would be needed. Somebody could do the math on it. Kathryn
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
The automatic timer cycle is on the order or 2 to 3 minutes a cycle. I believe that most people are processing their mixture from 6 to 10 minutes. Dan On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Roger Barker wrote: Here's the one Daddybob sent me a few weeks ago - hope it helps. There has been some talk of adding the baking soda to the C before encapsulation. I have tried this once and will certainly be giving it another go shortly. Cheers, Roger B NZ From several people who posted their methods in various forums, and my own experience, here is my method: In a blender, 1 cup of distilled water + 3 level tablespoons of granular soy lecithin, blend well (in a blender) until no granules are visible, OR shake this in a jar or Blender Bottle until all is dissolved. Do not let it set. Dissolve 1 tablespoon of C powder in ½ cup DW. Combine both in the UC, turn it on and stir it gently with a straw, not touching the actual interior of the UC. Run it for 3 cycles. How much time is a cycle? My ultrasonic cleaner lets you set the time, so I really have no idea how to convert cycles to the appropriate time. Also are there recommendations on which units work best. I recall that there was a discussion that some of them simply do not have the umph to be effective. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are expensive. - Original Message - From: Roger and Lisa Royal To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years. I have tried all the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked. The only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication. FINALLY, I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas. I started putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been flea free for several months now. It has been a god send for us. He doesn't seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness. I am so happy to spread the word about this and hope it helps someone else! - Original Message - From: Fuzzmom To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
ll in all if your friend is a herbalist then I'll tae her word over that of someone who just sells a product..a girl at one of those catalog for pets told me not to use it but I'll still check it out. - Original Message - From: Kirsteen Wright To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:39 AM Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I would check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for harming someone's pet. I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who was a herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it can be used to bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on from a local herbalist. I can't remember which one but it was either Neale's Yard or Napiers. Cheers Kirsteen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Um..and then who'd watch the dogs? - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:58 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax I just spread the powder on the carpeting and dogs bedding and left it there, Next week did the same thing.Once the fleas were gone I swept it all up. They never came back. If you are allergic then why not stay with friends until this job is finished? zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Good Point. Perhaps the ACV is the best solution for you. zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Um..and then who'd watch the dogs? - Original Message - *From:* zoe w mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:58 AM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax
Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax
It might... HHHAAA HoHOhoOhGawd,I'm killing myself Chuck NORMAL? That the setting I use on my washing machine... On 9/30/2009 9:22:37 AM, Melly Bag (tita_...@yahoo.com) wrote: Kirsteen and others, Would you know if this pennyroyal would also work for mites? Thanks. Melly No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Excellent page Doug, thank you! And thank you for forwarding DB's info Roger! Garnet polo wrote: You might check out my new webpage: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/LET/let.html I tried to summarize everything, doug - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver Siilver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: CSLiposomal Vitamin C Does anyone have a comprehensive document on how to make Liposomal Vit C that includes all aspects of the process. I would like to post it to a new LDN Forum where people are discussing using it but they are buying it. I don't want to post a series of unintegrated emails if someone has a more recent collation of the methods. Thanks, Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Concentrace is a brand name. I bought it at the health food store. It's a fairly well known product made from concentrated salt water. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean what's the difference. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that I make myself. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: then how do you take it as a supplement/ - Original Message - From: frankcuns-r...@comcast.net frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax IS NOT safe to eat Frank ND Fuzzmom wrote: Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/ - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine. Why don't you just buy the supplement Boron. There is a liquid supplement of silica with boron which i take by jarrows. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed /pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote: From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: CSOT boron and borax
It's also a lung irritant so try not to breathe it in. Garnet Sam L. wrote: If you sprinkle (flour shifter works) borax on your carpet and let sit overnight it will kill the fleas, vacuum well the next day and repeat a few days later. Might need to do this every week or two until you have it under control. Do not put it on your dogs. Sam L. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:48 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote: It was..pretty much for everything but I didn't think it was still the same...I thought it had undergone several changes since..aybe ot? I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. A mom dog brought them with her when dropped off and now the whole house has! Can you Bathe..diluted in it? And will silver..or can silver..help with fleas? Worms..etc? - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:56 PM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I thought that is the scientific name of boron, isn't it? If you go to the 20 Mule website, it states that once upon a time before FDA rules were in place, their product was used for health reasons. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Acmeair /res00...@verizon.net mailto:res00...@verizon.net/* wrote: From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net mailto:res00...@verizon.net Subject: Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 4:38 PM we went thru this situation a year or so ago. many supporters of using up to the first finger joint for a dose. you have peeked my interest, so i checked my 20 mule team Borax natural laundry booster. a caution, contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate, anyone know what that is?jim Sep 29, 2009 12:07:17 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com wrote: I use borax as a source for dietary boron and I know of no negatives. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402
Re: CSOT boron and borax
The boric acid I am talking about is pure, a powder. For use in eyes you mix it with distilled water. The strength is nothing more than how much you dilute it. According to this site http://www.ehow.com/way_5195536_boric-acid-eye-bath-recipe.html : The adult strength eye wash is made with 1 tsp. of boric acid in 1 cup of water http://www.ehow.com/way_5195536_boric-acid-eye-bath-recipe.html#. An eye wash for children http://www.ehow.com/children/ should contain 1/2 to 2/3 tsp. boric acid per cup of water. Buy medicinal grade boric acid powder at a pharmacy or online. Avoid the industrial grade powder used in pesticides. Use distilled water to make your eye bath so it won't be contaminated with the chemicals and pollutants often present in tap water. Marshall Melly Bag wrote: Be careful with boric acid for eyes. They come in different strengths. My grandma had an eye surgery for cataracts and the nurse used a stronger boric acid than what doc ordered and she got blind. Ask your eye doctor what strength should be used for eyes. Melly --- On *Wed, 9/30/09, Clayton Family /clay...@skypoint.com/* wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:10 PM In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water makes an effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's remedy of choice in the 50's. It may also be helpful for other things. I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would be needed. Somebody could do the math on it. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
i'll se if my local store carries it. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Concentrace is a brand name. I bought it at the health food store. It's a fairly well known product made from concentrated salt water. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean what's the difference. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that I make myself. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: then how do you take it as a supplement/ - Original Message - From: frankcuns-r...@comcast.net frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax IS NOT safe to eat Frank ND Fuzzmom wrote: Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/ - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine. Why don't you just buy the supplement Boron. There is a liquid supplement of silica with boron which i take by jarrows. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed /pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote: From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
Re: CSSnails and moles
Nah! They get rowdy and start smashing up the lawn furniture... Gawd...can't help myself today Chuck Not all men are fools, some are bachelors. On 9/30/2009 11:34:34 AM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: If you are over 21, you can put glasses of beer outside and they will be attracted to them, drink the beer, get drunk, fall in and drown. Marshall Jayson wrote: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
Re: CSOT boron and borax
yes it is from the Great Salt Lake in Utah. It is fairly high inbromines, and I don't do well with it, maybe for that reason; but others seem to like it just fine... On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Garnet wrote: Concentrace is a brand name. I bought it at the health food store. It's a fairly well known product made from concentrated salt water. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean what's the difference. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that I make myself. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: then how do you take it as a supplement/ - Original Message - From: frankcuns-r...@comcast.net frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax IS NOT safe to eat Frank ND Fuzzmom wrote: Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/ - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine. Why don't you just buy the supplement Boron. There is a liquid supplement of silica with boron which i take by jarrows. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed /pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote: From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose? to=mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
CSsubscribing address
What happened to the link to where to subscribe to the silverlist that used to appear at the bottom of emails. If anyone has it please send it to me. All that is there now is this unsub link Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org and that takes me to the eskimo homepage where I can't find anything at all to do with the silverlist no sub or unsub info link seems to be there. I also can no longer find sub and unsub silverlist info at www.silvermedicine.org Maybe I'm just braindead today? I want to refer someone to this list. thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSsubscribing address
Is this it ? = ~ The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ~ On 9/30/09, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: What happened to the link to where to subscribe to the silverlist that used to appear at the bottom of emails. If anyone has it please send it to me. All that is there now is this unsub link Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org and that takes me to the eskimo homepage where I can't find anything at all to do with the silverlist no sub or unsub info link seems to be there. I also can no longer find sub and unsub silverlist info at www.silvermedicine.org Maybe I'm just braindead today? I want to refer someone to this list. thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Native American stories--
In a message dated 9/30/2009 12:22:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: Lois, Most of the stories told by my Grandpa were very personal family stories that would have no meaning to outsiders. Ours have been preserved and are being passed down to successive generations of which there are three beyond myself so far.If you are looking for the generic,creation, myth stories there is a place you can go. _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/) Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. zoe zoe, I think it is great you are preserving the stories... I am not looking for generic, have read many of them. I live in the land of the Senecas. One of their camps was within walking distance of where I live in Letchworth State Park. It is almost as if I can sense their presence here in my woods. It is said that their winter camp was in this woods. I just appreciate their history abhor what was done to them.. Lois
Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
Hi Steve, Sorry to break in here. But due to our Western diet most of us lean toward the acidic side of the scale anyway. Coffee, tea, soft drinks, medications, excessive protein and sugar in the diet, pollution, and probably a few others y'all could point out. The body uses calcium to buffer acid, and a good portion of people in the US don't get the RDA of calcium, much less more than the RDA. Bones and teeth suffer as a result. I don't remember the numbers, but it takes so much water and or calcium to buffer just one soft drink. I'm not an expert in chemistry mind you and I could be wrong, but that's what I understand from my own digging around on the subject. Annie Norton, Steve wrote: Marshall, The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested. Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or alkaline substances and controlling blood pH. That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have. - Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated. doug - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I ordered this book and it came yesterday. It does have some interesting ideas. However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do. For instance, I was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium chlorite... Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it. So before converting drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first. That works out to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would end up being 4 grams. Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day without digestive problems. So I checked the msds, and found that the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount. The amount recommended would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill them at worst. So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88 There he says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. Ahh, now he has it right. The first place I read his recommendation produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting. Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but others may not be so fortunate. But now I am puzzled. Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly alkaline. But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which then breaks down into NaCl and O2 eventually. So how does this improve your body's pH? NaCl is plain old table salt. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics
There are some testimonials here for those interested = http://tinyurl.com/ydkxqv5 Smitty ### On 9/30/09, Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote: That is interesting. Thanks. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics You are correct that the body maintains the blood pH within a very narrow range. It really never gets out of range, the problem is the problems the body creates for itself maintaining this pH. It strips calcium from the bones, it causes overload of the liver and kidneys expelling the acid, and according to the book, it stashes acids away into fat. The book contends that much obesity is caused by the body storing fat simply to be able to stash acids away in the fat. That if the body is not having to do this, it will burn the fat instead. Interesting theory at any rate. Marshall Norton, Steve wrote: Marshall, The body alkalization theory has always escaped my understanding except where an alkaline substance is injected into the bloodstream just upstream of a tumor causing a localized change pH. The body does an excellent job of controlling blood pH regardless of what is ingested. Unless there is an excessive ingestion of acidic substances that depletes the body's stores of alkalizing substances. Even pH in the intestinal tract is fairly tightly controlled. Studies measuring pH along the intestinal tract show surprising small variations of pH regardless of whether acidic or alkaline substances are ingested. You can measure pH changes in urine or saliva but I think that is because it is the body's way of releasing excessive amounts of acidic or alkaline substances and controlling blood pH. That said, they have determined a link between low urine pH caused by gout and insulin resistance. Treatment is to raise the urine pH and to treat the gout. Not sure how that all fits in with the book you have. - Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I think a better book would be INFECTIOUS DIABETES by Doug Kaufmann. Talk about food for thought! Going further, if diabetes is fungi based as is the book's premise, this would offer some basis for the use of sodium chlorite for treating diabetes. My sparse experience with MMS was with my dog that seemed to develop canine diabetes and I seemed to have reversed it with sodium chlorite. So far I am intrigued and elated. doug - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: CSThe pH miracle for diabetics I ordered this book and it came yesterday. It does have some interesting ideas. However I am put off by his inaccurate or incomplete descriptions of some of the protocols he says to do. For instance, I was interested in the alkalinized water as a starting point. On page 68 he says: combine one quart of water with 16 drops of sodium chlorite... Now first of all sodium chlorite is a solid, not a liquid, so this seemed a rather odd way of expressing it. So before converting drops to grams and trying it I did some figuring first. That works out to be approximately 1 gram, and if you drink 4 quarts in a day, would end up being 4 grams. Having had experience with MMS, I knew that was a huge amount, about 20 times the maximum I was able to work up to in a day, and over 100 times what I was able to initially take in a day without digestive problems. So I checked the msds, and found that the lethal dosage is less than 4 times that amount. The amount recommended would certainly put anyone in the hospital at best, and possibly kill them at worst. So, I checked the index for sodium chlorite to see if he talks about it anywhere else, and found he once again mentions it on page 88 There he says to add 16 drops per liter of 2 percent sodium chlorite solution. Ahh, now he has it right. The first place I read his recommendation produced a concentration 50 times what he was really wanting. Fortunately I had enough experience with this compound to realize that something was wrong with the first place he gives the information, but others may not be so fortunate. But now I am puzzled. Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) is truly highly alkaline. But it breaks down into chlorious acid in the stomach, which then breaks down into NaCl and O2
Re: CS Native American stories--
It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another.Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing.I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/30/2009 12:22:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: Lois, Most of the stories told by my Grandpa were very personal family stories that would have no meaning to outsiders. Ours have been preserved and are being passed down to successive generations of which there are three beyond myself so far.If you are looking for the generic, creation, myth stories there is a place you can go. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. zoe zoe, I think it is great you are preserving the stories... I am not looking for generic, have read many of them. I live in the land of the Senecas. One of their camps was within walking distance of where I live in Letchworth State Park. It is almost as if I can sense their presence here in my woods. It is said that their winter camp was in this woods. I just appreciate their history abhor what was done to them.. Lois
CSLiposomal C Post on LDN Database Forum
For anyone who would like to contribute their experiences and benefits of Liposomal C here is the link to the thread I created. This is a new Low Dose Naltrexone Forum created by the owner of the LDN Database in Ireland. Not much info on the forum yet but should prove to be a great community for discussing all matters related to LDN and the range of conditions it is used to treat which includes Autoimmune disease, some Cancers (must have the opioid receptor), Allergies, Asthma, Autism, HIVAIDS, Hormone Imbalance, Thyroiditis, Flu and Cold Prevention and more. Would love to have some of you good folks visit and contribute as well as help to spread the word on LDN. http://ldndatabase.com/forum/showthread.php?p=102posted=1#post102 Thanks again for everyone's contribution to my LET C thread! Garnet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
She may have been referring to the essential oil of Penny Royal which is a lot more concentrated than rubbing on the plant. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: ll in all if your friend is a herbalist then I'll tae her word over that of someone who just sells a product..a girl at one of those catalog for pets told me not to use it but I'll still check it out. - Original Message - *From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:39 AM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I would check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for harming someone's pet. I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who was a herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it can be used to bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on from a local herbalist. I can't remember which one but it was either Neale's Yard or Napiers. Cheers Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
It was in a deodorant stick sort of. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax She may have been referring to the essential oil of Penny Royal which is a lot more concentrated than rubbing on the plant. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: ll in all if your friend is a herbalist then I'll tae her word over that of someone who just sells a product..a girl at one of those catalog for pets told me not to use it but I'll still check it out. - Original Message - *From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:39 AM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? I've never heard that it's bad for cats but, if you've heard that, I would check it out before using it. I'd hate to be responsible for harming someone's pet. I'm in the UK. i originally got it from a friend in Edinburgh who was a herbalist at the time. I know it can be difficult to get as it can be used to bring on an abortion. I did manage to get it later on from a local herbalist. I can't remember which one but it was either Neale's Yard or Napiers. Cheers Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
CSAnother questions
Hi Ken! I don't have shortness of breath, caughing or access mucas. But the VA gives me inhalers etc. I don't think i have Astma, etc. But if i get a cold. It immediatly becomes a severe breathing problem. But i think that is just a part of the cold/flu. The same with my re-occuring bladder infections. Both i feel are treatable with CS. Which i intend to treat with your spray and drinking it after holding in my mouth as long as i can. My VA nurse, that comes out once a week. She has become very interested in CS, my organic food and natural healing. She wanted to take a prelimanary blood/uran samples. Then in a few weeks another. So, Monday a nurse from my VA Dr. called and left a message. That my antisipated use of CS is VERY much frowned upon. I read the book CS today that i just baught from you. I wonder if there is some info that could talk in Dr. talk why, how and when the bennifits of CS. My Dr. is from India and turned me on to Soy Milk has been very interested in my doctoring my herbalist was doing and my ongoing vitamin/mineral regiment. Since my Dr. and I have a agree to disagree arrangement. I can request another Dr. visit at any time. I've already gave him several CD's on various subjects. Even the bad additives of the H1N1 and other contraversal subjects. I believe that he, my nurse and many other Americans. Just don't know. Because we just don't have time to fallow. But i would appriciate your help in making more people receptive to CS treatment. Now, if you haven't sent out replacement for my funnel and dropper please include them on my next order of the battery pack and whatever else you think i should order. You have my CC # so you can just use that! Thanks again Ken! I really appriciate your far away friendship! Oh, here in Portland, Or. there isn't much sun to heat a jug. God Bless! Larry
CSGetting Started
Hi, I would like to start out with CS. It would be mainly for myself but perhaps also for my young kids at some point. Is there a standard email that can be posted with some advice for beginners? If I buy some is there a better manufacturer? Is there a standard ppm to use? Dosage amounts for everyday versus when you have come down with something? Is there a guide for making it yourself? Thanks! Jeff
CSLypo-spheric vitamin C
I suppose all you who are making liposomal vitamin C are also taking it. Have any of you had stomach pains or worse? The first two times I took my Livon lipospheric C, I felt a little queasy which went away soon as I ate something. The last time, Friday night, I took some late because I felt a little funny like I might have something coming on or an allergy. I woke about 2 1/2 hours later with terrible sharp stomach pain which then turned queasy. (Runs X 3 after that) After sipping colloidal silver every 10 or 15 minutes, I was feeling well enough to go back to bed in about an hour. I was back to normal in 12 hours. I probably had picked up germs from eating persimmons off the ground, or who knows where, but I'm a little afraid it was the C. I'll wait for a good day when I don't have anywhere to go to try it again. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Zoe, Thank you for posting the group! I am sorry to say I am not a sensitive person, tuned into things around me. I wish I were. I can certainly agree with Lois in what was done to the people native to this country. There *should* have been white bodies hanging from trees all across this country for what the white man did, IMO. No other minority had annihilation attempted on them in this country that I ever heard of. OK, I'll get off my soapbox, not that I want to... Thanks again. I joined and look foreward to the stories! Janis --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories-- To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:46 PM It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another. Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing. I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/30/2009 12:22:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: Lois, Most of the stories told by my Grandpa were very personal family stories that would have no meaning to outsiders. Ours have been preserved and are being passed down to successive generations of which there are three beyond myself so far. If you are looking for the generic, creation, myth stories there is a place you can go. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. zoe zoe, I think it is great you are preserving the stories... I am not looking for generic, have read many of them. I live in the land of the Senecas. One of their camps was within walking distance of where I live in Letchworth State Park. It is almost as if I can sense their presence here in my woods. It is said that their winter camp was in this woods. I just appreciate their history abhor what was done to them.. Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLiposomal Vitamin C
Doug, A little while back I asked you about making tinctures with DMSO (using the email address provided at your web site). If I remember right you recommended a 50% DMSO solution. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if you use a preservative in your DMSO tinctures? I am considering a DMSO/vodka tincture and wondered if you have tried something similar. If you do, would you need to combine the herb and DMSO and let it set first before adding the vodka, to maximize bonding between DMSO and herb components rather than DMSO bonding with alcohol? I also have a question regarding the tincturing of polkweed. The toxic components of pokeweed are water soluble. Should one dry and powder the pokeweed and then go through several soaking in water. Throwing away the water after each soaking before tincturing to eliminate the toxic substances? Or would you recommend an extraction using a non polar solvent to remove only the non water soluble components of the pokeweed? Thanks, Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vitamin C You might check out my new webpage: http://www.racehorseherbal.com/Infections/LET/let.html I tried to summarize everything, doug -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Im glad you are enjoying the stories. zoe AHorse52251 wrote: Zoe, Thank you for posting the group! I am sorry to say I am not a sensitive person, tuned into things around me. I wish I were. I can certainly agree with Lois in what was done to the people native to this country. There *should* have been white bodies hanging from trees all across this country for what the white man did, IMO. No other minority had annihilation attempted on them in this country that I ever heard of. OK, I'll get off my soapbox, not that I want to... Thanks again. I joined and look foreward to the stories! Janis --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories-- To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:46 PM It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another.Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing.I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/30/2009 12:22:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: Lois, Most of the stories told by my Grandpa were very personal family stories that would have no meaning to outsiders. Ours have been preserved and are being passed down to successive generations of which there are three beyond myself so far.If you are looking for the generic, creation, myth stories there is a place you can go. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. zoe zoe, I think it is great you are preserving the stories... I am not looking for generic, have read many of them. I live in the land of the Senecas. One of their camps was within walking distance of where I live in Letchworth State Park. It is almost as if I can sense their presence here in my woods. It is said that their winter camp was in this woods. I just appreciate their history abhor what was done to them.. Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLypo-spheric vitamin C
I took Livon lipospheric C for 30 days (1 box). Didn't notice a thing. Darn, wonder what that means? Del - Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: CSLypo-spheric vitamin C I suppose all you who are making liposomal vitamin C are also taking it. Have any of you had stomach pains or worse? The first two times I took my Livon lipospheric C, I felt a little queasy which went away soon as I ate something. The last time, Friday night, I took some late because I felt a little funny like I might have something coming on or an allergy. I woke about 2 1/2 hours later with terrible sharp stomach pain which then turned queasy. (Runs X 3 after that) After sipping colloidal silver every 10 or 15 minutes, I was feeling well enough to go back to bed in about an hour. I was back to normal in 12 hours. I probably had picked up germs from eating persimmons off the ground, or who knows where, but I'm a little afraid it was the C. I'll wait for a good day when I don't have anywhere to go to try it again. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO and poke
Steve, I recommend a pure (upper 90s%) DMSO menstruum (herbal solvent), if you are planning on tincturing the fresh green herb. If you are tincturing dry herbs, I would go with the recommended ratios that are traditionally used and varies from herb to herb. For instance it is recommended that when you tincture dry poke root, you use a 50% ethanol/50% water solution, so I would likewise use a 50% DMSO/50% water solution. Just substitute the DMSO for ethanol. DMSO should not need a preservative if used at the higher strengths, just like ethanol. Things usually do not grow in DMSO as they do not in ethanol, presuming the strength is high. I would not be afraid of herbal tinctures 30% or higher in DMSO concentrations. I mostly only use High purity DMSO in my tincturing process and I have yet to have a tincture spoil. I have never tried to combine DMSO and ethanol as a combination menstruum. Interesting concept! I can only see an advantage to this from a solvent standpoint if both solvents can extract components of an herb, if one by itself could not. If you are only adding DMSO to provide a more efficient vehicle of herbal drug delivery, then yes, that might be an advantage too, though most people detest DMSO. You could extract the herb by either using a combined DMSO/ethanol menstruum or just tincturing each herb in a DMSO or ethanol menstruum then combining the two. Either way should be ok to my way of thinking. The eclectic medical movement that specialized in botanical medicines from the late 1800s up till 1932 or so, found that the best poke root tincture was made directly from the fresh green poke root. The dry poke root is no where near as good or potent. The toxic qualities of poke weed are highly exaggerated. No doubt if you ate the mature weed like you would the young one or as you would any salad, you would suffer gastro-intestinal distress, but that's about it--puking. In some circles, it is felt that vomiting as a result of poke root is actually cathartic. This is held mainly by the puke cleanse old time herbalists. I would not be worried about the widely publicized toxicity of poke. I know you will find that some young children in the long ago past were said to be poisoned by the berry. Maybe so. We don't know how much they ate, nor if they were compromised in some way or if younger systems are more susceptible. In the adult, poke berries were commonly used for arthritic conditions. As the old cliché goes, all things are poison in the right amounts and most poisons are medicinal in smaller amounts. Poke is no different. It is one of my favorite herbs and a superb anti-viral and lymphatic stimulant. It is great as a topical DMSO tincture. doug - Original Message - Doug, A little while back I asked you about making tinctures with DMSO (using the email address provided at your web site). If I remember right you recommended a 50% DMSO solution. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if you use a preservative in your DMSO tinctures? I am considering a DMSO/vodka tincture and wondered if you have tried something similar. If you do, would you need to combine the herb and DMSO and let it set first before adding the vodka, to maximize bonding between DMSO and herb components rather than DMSO bonding with alcohol? I also have a question regarding the tincturing of polkweed. The toxic components of pokeweed are water soluble. Should one dry and powder the pokeweed and then go through several soaking in water. Throwing away the water after each soaking before tincturing to eliminate the toxic substances? Or would you recommend an extraction using a non polar solvent to remove only the non water soluble components of the pokeweed? Thanks, Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Are you in the US? I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, etc. for about $4 per 16 oz. I only use about a tablespoon in his drinking water--maybe even half of that (1/2 tablespoon) Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the mother. - Original Message - From: Fuzzmom To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are expensive. - Original Message - From: Roger and Lisa Royal To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax We have suffered with fleas on my dog for the past 2 years. I have tried all the natural remedies I could find like DE and garlic, but nothing worked. The only thing that worked was Comfortis, a probably vile, monthly medication. FINALLY, I read about apple cider vinegar being good for fleas. I started putting a splash in his water (probably a 4 cup water bowl), and he has been flea free for several months now. It has been a god send for us. He doesn't seem to mind the taste either, thank goodness. I am so happy to spread the word about this and hope it helps someone else! - Original Message - From: Fuzzmom To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. - Original Message - From: zoe w To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Amazon.com sells it by the gallon. zoe Roger and Lisa Royal wrote: Are you in the US? I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, etc. for about $4 per 16 oz. I only use about a tablespoon in his drinking water--maybe even half of that (1/2 tablespoon) Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the mother. - Original Message - *From:* Fuzzmom mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are expensive. -
Re: CSOT boron and borax Chuck
In a message dated 9/29/2009 6:24:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cking...@nycap.rr.com writes: Chuck No moving parts! I'm so sorry. :-)
Re: CSOT boron and borax ( fleas )
In a message dated 9/30/2009 3:49:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fuzzm...@frontier.com writes: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? I have read that it works, also as an ant other creepys barrier when put in a 2 line around the outside of your house...Haven't tried it.
Re: CSLypo-spheric vitamin C
Well, here's a stab at it... When I make it, I use a heaping tablespoon of ascorbic acid powder. Approx 20 grams. That amount (not liposomal encapsulated) would most definitely exceed anyone's bowel tolerance. Going through the encapsulating process, it's tolerable although some rumbling is noticeable and the stool is somewhat liquid. I believe I'm pushing the envelope. I would not be surprised to hear that some might have a bit of distress. My longtime experience with regular large dose C is that you accustomize to the dosage fairly quickly (a day or so). Chuck Virtual reality is its own reward. On 9/30/2009 4:33:16 PM, Pat (pattycake29...@yahoo.com) wrote: I suppose all you who are making liposomal vitamin C are also taking it. Have any of you had stomach pains or worse? The first two times I took my Livon lipospheric C, I felt a little queasy which went away soon as I ate something. The last time, Friday night, I took some late because I felt a little funny like I might have something coming on or an allergy. I woke about 2 1/2 hours later with terrible sharp stomach pain which then turned queasy. (Runs X 3 after that) After sipping colloidal silver every 10 or 15 minutes, I was feeling well enough to go back to bed in about an hour. I was back to normal in 12 hours. I probably had picked up germs from eating persimmons off the ground, or who knows where, but I'm a little afraid it was the C. I'll wait for a good day when I don't have anywhere to go to try it again. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List ar No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.115/2405 - Release Date: 09/30/09 10:35:00
CSLung Cancer
I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would surely be appreciated by her family, thanks deb
Re: CSLung Cancer
Tell her to check out Low Dose Naltrexone. It raises endorphin levels by 300%. Cancers that are sensitive to endorphins, including lung cancer, respond to this increase by shrinking. Dr Bert Burkson of Las Cruces New Mexico has treated many cancer patients with LDN and IV Alpha Lipoic Acid. Most are late stage by the time the look for alt treatments. He has video presentations on You Tube that are listed on the LDN Information list along with many other videos from LDN conferences. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information is a resource list only and generates no messages. Just lots of links and files to LDN info. Cancer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ldnforcancer Cancer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_4_cancer Lung Cancer http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lung-Cancer-Support-Group www.ldndatabase.com has reports of people taking LDN, the site owner's wife was given months to live and she has been over 18 months on LDN. There are many more resources but these should be a good start. Garnet Deborah Gerard wrote: I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would surely be appreciated by her family, thanks deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
My Great-Grandmother was full blood Apache but she died before I had the opportunity to meet her. My Mother used to tell us stories about Geronimo and the Superstition Mountains in Arizona, my mother's birth place. She took us to see the bluff [Medicine Bluff] where he and his horse jumped from into the Medicine River to get away from the US Calvary...he lived and did get away. My Mother was a half-breed and as a child when walking in Phoenix the white men would spit on her and her family and then they [the white people] would cross to the other side of the street so as to not be soiled by their presence. I lived with prejudice from within my own father's family [his mother did not want anything to do with us Native American brown skinned children]...even from my own father. Now that my Mother has passed on my father claims we are not Apache but he lies...my Mother was very proud of her heritage and wanted her children to be proud of it too and we are. Just thought I would share some of my Native American history. Sandy --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories--OT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 4:11 PM Im glad you are enjoying the stories. zoe AHorse52251 wrote: Zoe, Thank you for posting the group! I am sorry to say I am not a sensitive person, tuned into things around me. I wish I were. I can certainly agree with Lois in what was done to the people native to this country. There *should* have been white bodies hanging from trees all across this country for what the white man did, IMO. No other minority had annihilation attempted on them in this country that I ever heard of. OK, I'll get off my soapbox, not that I want to... Thanks again. I joined and look foreward to the stories! Janis --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories-- To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:46 PM It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another. Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing. I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/30/2009 12:22:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: Lois, Most of the stories told by my Grandpa were very personal family stories that would have no meaning to outsiders. Ours have been preserved and are being passed down to successive generations of which there are three beyond myself so far. If you are looking for the generic, creation, myth stories there is a place you can go. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. zoe zoe, I think it is great you are preserving the stories... I am not looking for generic, have read many of them. I live in the land of the Senecas. One of their camps was within walking distance of where I live in Letchworth State Park. It is almost as if I can sense their presence here in my woods. It is said that their winter camp was in this woods. I just appreciate their history abhor what was done to them.. Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLung Cancer
ldn_4_can...@yahoogroups.com take a look at this site. jimLDN_4_cancer LDN_4_cancer Sep 30, 2009 04:06:37 PM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote: I have a 54 year old lady from another group who has sharred she has lung cancer. Any and all advice to go after this cancer would surely be appreciated by her family, thanks deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Sandy wrote: My Great-Grandmother was full blood Apache but she died before I had the opportunity to meet her. My Mother used to tell us stories about Geronimo and the Superstition Mountains in Arizona, my mother's birth place. She took us to see the bluff [Medicine Bluff] where he and his horse jumped from into the Medicine River to get away from the US Calvary...he lived and did get away. My Mother was a half-breed and as a child when walking in Phoenix the white men would spit on her and her family and then they [the white people] would cross to the other side of the street so as to not be soiled by their presence. I lived with prejudice from within my own father's family [his mother did not want anything to do with us Native American brown skinned children]...even from my own father. Now that my Mother has passed on my father claims we are not Apache but he lies...my Mother was very proud of her heritage and wanted her children to be proud of it too and we are. Just thought I would share some of my Native American history. Sandy --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories--OT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 4:11 PM Im glad you are enjoying the stories. zoe AHorse52251 wrote: Zoe, Thank you for posting the group! I am sorry to say I am not a sensitive person, tuned into things around me. I wish I were. I can certainly agree with Lois in what was done to the people native to this country. There *should* have been white bodies hanging from trees all across this country for what the white man did, IMO. No other minority had annihilation attempted on them in this country that I ever heard of. OK, I'll get off my soapbox, not that I want to... Thanks again. I joined and look foreward to the stories! Janis --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories-- To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:46 PM It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another.Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing.I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDMSO and poke
Doug, I certainly agree that pokeweed is interesting. Both in it's unique antiviral properties: Three well-known different pokeweed antiviral protein (PAP)isoforms from the leaves of the pokeweed (PAP-I from spring leaves, PAPII from early summer leaves, and PAP-III from late summer leaves) that cause concentration-dependent depurination of genomic virus RNA. And there is the pokeweed mitogen. I have not come across mitogens in any other plant, although there may be some with mitogens. And in it's immune stimulating properties. I have to admit that the roots worry me a little since they, along with any red parts of the plant (not including the berries), contains the highest amount of toxins. The berries are the lowest as long as you do not eat the seeds. When I grew up in Kentucky, pokeweed would be found anywhere you did not cut or weed regularly. I have yet to see it in CA where I live now. I see that you offer pokeweed for sale or trade on your site. What are your prices for shoots, roots, leaves and berries and when are the seasons for each? I would like enough berries for a pie and some jelly to try. The rest would be for tincturing. Except for some shoots that I may cook if there are enough. Thanks, Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO and poke Steve, I recommend a pure (upper 90s%) DMSO menstruum (herbal solvent), if you are planning on tincturing the fresh green herb. If you are tincturing dry herbs, I would go with the recommended ratios that are traditionally used and varies from herb to herb. For instance it is recommended that when you tincture dry poke root, you use a 50% ethanol/50% water solution, so I would likewise use a 50% DMSO/50% water solution. Just substitute the DMSO for ethanol. DMSO should not need a preservative if used at the higher strengths, just like ethanol. Things usually do not grow in DMSO as they do not in ethanol, presuming the strength is high. I would not be afraid of herbal tinctures 30% or higher in DMSO concentrations. I mostly only use High purity DMSO in my tincturing process and I have yet to have a tincture spoil. I have never tried to combine DMSO and ethanol as a combination menstruum. Interesting concept! I can only see an advantage to this from a solvent standpoint if both solvents can extract components of an herb, if one by itself could not. If you are only adding DMSO to provide a more efficient vehicle of herbal drug delivery, then yes, that might be an advantage too, though most people detest DMSO. You could extract the herb by either using a combined DMSO/ethanol menstruum or just tincturing each herb in a DMSO or ethanol menstruum then combining the two. Either way should be ok to my way of thinking. The eclectic medical movement that specialized in botanical medicines from the late 1800s up till 1932 or so, found that the best poke root tincture was made directly from the fresh green poke root. The dry poke root is no where near as good or potent. The toxic qualities of poke weed are highly exaggerated. No doubt if you ate the mature weed like you would the young one or as you would any salad, you would suffer gastro-intestinal distress, but that's about it--puking. In some circles, it is felt that vomiting as a result of poke root is actually cathartic. This is held mainly by the puke cleanse old time herbalists. I would not be worried about the widely publicized toxicity of poke. I know you will find that some young children in the long ago past were said to be poisoned by the berry. Maybe so. We don't know how much they ate, nor if they were compromised in some way or if younger systems are more susceptible. In the adult, poke berries were commonly used for arthritic conditions. As the old cliché goes, all things are poison in the right amounts and most poisons are medicinal in smaller amounts. Poke is no different. It is one of my favorite herbs and a superb anti-viral and lymphatic stimulant. It is great as a topical DMSO tincture. doug - Original Message - Doug, A little while back I asked you about making tinctures with DMSO (using the email address provided at your web site). If I remember right you recommended a 50% DMSO solution. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if you use a preservative in your DMSO tinctures? I am considering a DMSO/vodka tincture and wondered if you have tried something similar. If you do, would you need to combine the herb and DMSO and let it set first before adding the vodka, to maximize bonding between DMSO and herb components rather than DMSO bonding with alcohol? I also have a question regarding the tincturing of polkweed. The toxic components of pokeweed are water soluble. Should one dry and powder the pokeweed and then go through several soaking in water. Throwing
RE: CSDMSO and poke
Doug what's your website? -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDMSO and poke Doug, I certainly agree that pokeweed is interesting. Both in it's unique antiviral properties: Three well-known different pokeweed antiviral protein (PAP)isoforms from the leaves of the pokeweed (PAP-I from spring leaves, PAPII from early summer leaves, and PAP-III from late summer leaves) that cause concentration-dependent depurination of genomic virus RNA. And there is the pokeweed mitogen. I have not come across mitogens in any other plant, although there may be some with mitogens. And in it's immune stimulating properties. I have to admit that the roots worry me a little since they, along with any red parts of the plant (not including the berries), contains the highest amount of toxins. The berries are the lowest as long as you do not eat the seeds. When I grew up in Kentucky, pokeweed would be found anywhere you did not cut or weed regularly. I have yet to see it in CA where I live now. I see that you offer pokeweed for sale or trade on your site. What are your prices for shoots, roots, leaves and berries and when are the seasons for each? I would like enough berries for a pie and some jelly to try. The rest would be for tincturing. Except for some shoots that I may cook if there are enough. Thanks, Steve N -Original Message- From: polo [mailto:dah...@centurytel.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:57 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDMSO and poke Steve, I recommend a pure (upper 90s%) DMSO menstruum (herbal solvent), if you are planning on tincturing the fresh green herb. If you are tincturing dry herbs, I would go with the recommended ratios that are traditionally used and varies from herb to herb. For instance it is recommended that when you tincture dry poke root, you use a 50% ethanol/50% water solution, so I would likewise use a 50% DMSO/50% water solution. Just substitute the DMSO for ethanol. DMSO should not need a preservative if used at the higher strengths, just like ethanol. Things usually do not grow in DMSO as they do not in ethanol, presuming the strength is high. I would not be afraid of herbal tinctures 30% or higher in DMSO concentrations. I mostly only use High purity DMSO in my tincturing process and I have yet to have a tincture spoil. I have never tried to combine DMSO and ethanol as a combination menstruum. Interesting concept! I can only see an advantage to this from a solvent standpoint if both solvents can extract components of an herb, if one by itself could not. If you are only adding DMSO to provide a more efficient vehicle of herbal drug delivery, then yes, that might be an advantage too, though most people detest DMSO. You could extract the herb by either using a combined DMSO/ethanol menstruum or just tincturing each herb in a DMSO or ethanol menstruum then combining the two. Either way should be ok to my way of thinking. The eclectic medical movement that specialized in botanical medicines from the late 1800s up till 1932 or so, found that the best poke root tincture was made directly from the fresh green poke root. The dry poke root is no where near as good or potent. The toxic qualities of poke weed are highly exaggerated. No doubt if you ate the mature weed like you would the young one or as you would any salad, you would suffer gastro-intestinal distress, but that's about it--puking. In some circles, it is felt that vomiting as a result of poke root is actually cathartic. This is held mainly by the puke cleanse old time herbalists. I would not be worried about the widely publicized toxicity of poke. I know you will find that some young children in the long ago past were said to be poisoned by the berry. Maybe so. We don't know how much they ate, nor if they were compromised in some way or if younger systems are more susceptible. In the adult, poke berries were commonly used for arthritic conditions. As the old cliché goes, all things are poison in the right amounts and most poisons are medicinal in smaller amounts. Poke is no different. It is one of my favorite herbs and a superb anti-viral and lymphatic stimulant. It is great as a topical DMSO tincture. doug - Original Message - Doug, A little while back I asked you about making tinctures with DMSO (using the email address provided at your web site). If I remember right you recommended a 50% DMSO solution. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if you use a preservative in your DMSO tinctures? I am considering a DMSO/vodka tincture and wondered if you have tried something similar. If you do, would you need to combine the herb and DMSO and let it set first before adding the vodka, to maximize bonding between DMSO and herb components rather than DMSO bonding with alcohol? I also have a question regarding the tincturing
Re: CSDMSO and poke
Oh, just reimburse me for the postage and I can send you some fresh root. It needs to be dug after our first frost which is a ways off yet. Berries would be much harder and I don't generally pick or sell them. doug - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:30 PM Subject: RE: CSDMSO and poke Doug, I certainly agree that pokeweed is interesting. Both in it's unique antiviral properties: Three well-known different pokeweed antiviral protein (PAP)isoforms from the leaves of the pokeweed (PAP-I from spring leaves, PAPII from early summer leaves, and PAP-III from late summer leaves) that cause concentration-dependent depurination of genomic virus RNA. And there is the pokeweed mitogen. I have not come across mitogens in any other plant, although there may be some with mitogens. And in it's immune stimulating properties. I have to admit that the roots worry me a little since they, along with any red parts of the plant (not including the berries), contains the highest amount of toxins. The berries are the lowest as long as you do not eat the seeds. When I grew up in Kentucky, pokeweed would be found anywhere you did not cut or weed regularly. I have yet to see it in CA where I live now. I see that you offer pokeweed for sale or trade on your site. What are your prices for shoots, roots, leaves and berries and when are the seasons for each? I would like enough berries for a pie and some jelly to try. The rest would be for tincturing. Except for some shoots that I may cook if there are enough. Thanks, Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO and poke
www.racehorseherbal.com - Original Message - From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: RE: CSDMSO and poke Doug what's your website? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Sorry hit the wrong button earlier. Sandy thanks so much for sharing your story. It is unfortunate, but many of us suffered similar torments.Hang on to that pride, it will carry you thru many a trial and tribulation. zoe zoe w wrote: Sandy wrote: My Great-Grandmother was full blood Apache but she died before I had the opportunity to meet her. My Mother used to tell us stories about Geronimo and the Superstition Mountains in Arizona, my mother's birth place. She took us to see the bluff [Medicine Bluff] where he and his horse jumped from into the Medicine River to get away from the US Calvary...he lived and did get away. My Mother was a half-breed and as a child when walking in Phoenix the white men would spit on her and her family and then they [the white people] would cross to the other side of the street so as to not be soiled by their presence. I lived with prejudice from within my own father's family [his mother did not want anything to do with us Native American brown skinned children]...even from my own father. Now that my Mother has passed on my father claims we are not Apache but he lies...my Mother was very proud of her heritage and wanted her children to be proud of it too and we are. Just thought I would share some of my Native American history. Sandy --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Sandy, Glad you shared your story! It is sad the way people have been so cruel to others. I know being from Cherokee my Grandfather use to deal with alot of discrimination. He had a farm and one time a man came looking to buy a horse from my Grandfather but the man ended up not buying it saying he would never trust an Indian and would not pay him a dime for his horse. I raised my children to be respectful to everyone and not to be prejudice. I also have a handicapped daughter and young children would come up to her wheelchair and ask why she can't walk and their parents would pull them away. I would always try to answer them to let them know. I feel sorry for these kids that are taught prejudice by their ignorant parents, children are not born that way. Donna ACS My Great-Grandmother was full blood Apache but she died before I had the opportunity to meet her. My Mother used to tell us stories about Geronimo and the Superstition Mountains in Arizona, my mother's birth place. She took us to see the bluff [Medicine Bluff] where he and his horse jumped from into the Medicine River to get away from the US Calvary...he lived and did get away. My Mother was a half-breed and as a child when walking in Phoenix the white men would spit on her and her family and then they [the white people] would cross to the other side of the street so as to not be soiled by their presence. I lived with prejudice from within my own father's family [his mother did not want anything to do with us Native American brown skinned children]...even from my own father. Now that my Mother has passed on my father claims we are not Apache but he lies...my Mother was very proud of her heritage and wanted her children to be proud of it too and we are. Just thought I would share some of my Native American history. Sandy --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories--OT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 4:11 PM Im glad you are enjoying the stories. zoe AHorse52251 wrote: Zoe, Thank you for posting the group! I am sorry to say I am not a sensitive person, tuned into things around me. I wish I were. I can certainly agree with Lois in what was done to the people native to this country. There *should* have been white bodies hanging from trees all across this country for what the white man did, IMO. No other minority had annihilation attempted on them in this country that I ever heard of. OK, I'll get off my soapbox, not that I want to... Thanks again. I joined and look foreward to the stories! Janis --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories-- To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:46 PM It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another.Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing.I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Excellent point Donna, Prejudice is taught ! No one is born with it. It has to be learned and as such it can be unlearned just as well.I see it even in my own family and it makes me very sad indeed. zoe Donna wrote: Sandy, Glad you shared your story! It is sad the way people have been so cruel to others. I know being from Cherokee my Grandfather use to deal with alot of discrimination. He had a farm and one time a man came looking to buy a horse from my Grandfather but the man ended up not buying it saying he would never trust an Indian and would not pay him a dime for his horse. I raised my children to be respectful to everyone and not to be prejudice. I also have a handicapped daughter and young children would come up to her wheelchair and ask why she can't walk and their parents would pull them away. I would always try to answer them to let them know. I feel sorry for these kids that are taught prejudice by their ignorant parents, children are not born that way. Donna ACS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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