Re: CS>Parvo

[Alan Jones]

Here is an old post from Brooks Bradley on the subject.  I can't comment on
it's efficacy.

PARVOVIRUS Parvo protocol by Brooks Bradley

Dear Dog-Loving List Members:



A very recent incident involving a long-time friend of mine, has re-kindled
my interest in posting a protocol which has proved to be quite efficacious
(as an ancillary protocol)in treating young puppies exposed to Parvo.



The original protocol was discovered quite serendipitously, by my wife,
some 18 years ago.



It utilizes the simple expedient of introducing balanced fluid electrolytes
(Lactated Ringer's or Gatorade) into the system of puppies undergoing the
severe dehydration normally associated with this disorder.  Since puppies,
almost universally, refuse to drink when this condition manifests, the
alternative my wife chose was to administer Gatorade, via a rectal-entry
(enema).  She used Gatorade, undiluted, warmed to body temperature and
directly out of the container.



The first subject was a male German Sheppard puppy, 6 weeks of age. She
administered approximately 4 ounces per treatment, every 6 hours--day and
night--for four days.  The pup lived, to become one of our dearest family
members and enlivened our lives immensely for the next 15 years.  His two
litter-mates died after receiving conventional hospitalization,
antibiotics, sulfa, etc.



Since we had, already, spent about $800. on their unsuccessful treatment
and this pup was closer to morbidity than the other two she theorized the
situation to be, essentially, hopeless and opted for this unconventional
(at that time) treatment.



During the ensuing years, we have passed this protocol on to dozens of our
friends and associates with essentially universally positive results.  This
protocol buys enough time and delays renal shut-down long enough for
ancillary treatments to be effective.  In the case of our pup, NO OTHER
protocol was involved.



This brings me to the case at-hand.  My friend had a young puppy who was
not responding to any of the conventional treatments; after being treated
by a large-animal veterinarian who had made a 60 mile drive to his remote
ranch in northern Nevada.  Later, after a lengthy telephone conversation,
with the vet stating that the pup would probably expire before he could
return, my friend's wife called me, for solace more than treatment advice.
During our telephone conversation I suggested Ringer's Lactate (which they
keep on hand for normal cattle treatments) 75% by volume,  mixed with
Colloidal Silver, 25% by volume; administered as an enema - essentially
following my wife's 18 year old protocol.  The puppy was able to stand,
weakly, within 12 hours and could move about with some stability within 24
hours and was fully functional within 72 hours following the initial
treatment.



I believe knowledge of this proven, successful, protocol may be of value to
anyone confronted with a Parvo circumstance, in puppies most especially.



Some Parvo strains are exceptionally virulent and very rapid-acting, thus
greatly limiting the response-time window for effective treatment.



I hope this information may be of value to some of you.



Sincerely,

Brooks Bradley

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 2:04 PM Gmail  wrote:

> My local animal shelter is experiencing  parvo epidemic.
> Anyone  have any info or experience using CS fo this?
>
> This is the way the world ends: not with a bang, but with a whimper.
> T.S. Eliot
>
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-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>

[Alan Jones]

Ode, thanks for sharing that.  To be clear, he drank a pint of EIS once?
Or was it once per day until the problem resolved?

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 6:54 AM Ode Coyote  wrote:

> My 96 year old dad had shingles twice.
> The first time, he went to the doc and it took 3 months to get rid of
> them..and they came back after a year or so.
> That time, he drank a pint of 20 PPM EIS and kept a soaked cloth on the
> blisters for several hours.
> He said the pain and itching was gone in 3 hours and in 3 days, he
> couldn't tell he had had shingles.
>
> HIGHLY recommended: []..from personal
> experience and NO issue addressed that WASN'T gone by morning...if not
> sooner.
>
> Dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda into about 1/2 cup water
>
> Drink it down, wait 10-15 minutes.
>
> Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.
>
> Repeat now and then.
>
>
>
> *What that does:*
>
> The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas
> [BURP ! ]
>
> The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more water to
> flush the excess salt out with.
>
> Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little
> or no stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:44 PM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
>> What do you mean by "successfully"?  I've treated two family members, one
>> by him ingesting 250ml home produced EIS a day, morning and night, ( and
>> pain killers), when he had it on one side of his head and down to behind
>> the ear, the other was around the midriff right around to the back (on one
>> side).  To treat the second one I kept her shirt/singlet or whatever damp
>> for days with EIS to minimize scarring as the blisters burst etc, 2 Nurofen
>> pain killers for 6 days, also she was still ingesting our morning ritual,
>> around 20ml every morning before breakfast, swishing around in the mouth
>> under the tongue of course.
>>
>> From the above, and from my experience, you have to just ride it out for
>> a fortnight or so, but, no scarring, one with no residual  pain upon
>> recovery, the other one had minimal residual pain (Postherpetic Neuralgia)
>> for another couple of weeks after recovery, (midriff), but her bout of
>> Shingles was pretty ugly I have to say.
>>
>> N.
>>
>> ------
>> *From:* cat4...@aol.com 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 March 2021 3:09 AM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
>> *Subject:* CS>
>>
>>
>> My friend has shingles and my question to all you knowledgeable people
>> .Has anyone ever treated shingles with C/S successfully?
>>
>

-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>question high B/P

[Alan Jones]

Marshall, any suggestions on brand or potency?

I have a problem swallowing pills, they get stuck in my esophagus
sometimes, would like to get easy to swallow (small) pills.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 9:47 AM Marshall  wrote:

> My wife and I both defeated high blood pressure by taking serrapeptase for
> a week or two.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 10/13/2020 11:12 AM, cat4...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Hi to all you knowledgeable people.
> I have high blood pressure for the last 3 month and have not been able to
> bring it down naturally. Do not want to take meds either.
> Can someone please make some suggestions.
> 166 over 70 is a weird number for me.My B/P has always been on the low side
> Any response would be greatly appreciated.Thank you kindly
> Christel
>
>
>

-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>Potential Treatment For Coronavirus Infection?

[Alan Jones]

Wow, looks like they took down that article about nebulizing H2O2?

That doctor talks about nebulizing 3 percent store bought (not food grade)
H2O2.  I'd be very careful with that -- H2O2 creates foam (try it in your
mouth and you'll see) and you do not want a lot of foam in your lungs,
methinks.  Take it slow

Dr Brownstein advocates nebulizing H2O2 at a MUCH lower concentration, more
like 0.03 percent, diluted with sterile saline.  This has helped several of
his COVID-19 patients recover (see his web site for testimonials).  He also
likes to include Lugol's iodine in the solution.

I wonder about nebulizing 0.03 percent H202, diluted with CS instead of
saline?  30cc CS is about an ounce, 0.03 percent is less than a cc of H2O2.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:23 AM Reid Harvey 
wrote:

> I too can personally attest to the efficacy of *CS*, as a result of having
> been hit hard by the flu, two years ago while at work.  I went home and
> immediately started dosing myself 1 teaspoon every four hours.
>
> The next morning I felt perfectly okay and went back to work. But for
> about three weeks I was coughing up phlegm and my voice was funny.  I
> hadn't nebulizerd the CS.
>
> It seems that for any who would attempt convincing the skeptics they may
> start by citing the overwhelming amount of *anecdotal* positive outcomes.
> It seems the salient studies were pre-1950, so not online.
>
> That there has been little or no mention to the public of this
> 'alternative' is somehow reprehensible.  Is there another prospective,
> broad spectrum ant-microbial that essentially destroys the pathogen?
>
> Each and every time a new and more virulent virus rears its head do we
> need a year or two to development expensive remediation?
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 10:47 AM Robert Banever 
> wrote:
>
>> I simply nebulize my 10ppm ionic silver made with my Silver Puppy.  No
>> H202 needed.  Works great.  Cleared up a 7 week old bronchitis of mine
>> recently.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Douglas Haack
>> Sent: Apr 26, 2020 4:52 PM
>> To: Silver-List
>> Subject: CS>Potential Treatment For Coronavirus Infection?
>>
>> This site has been talking about NEBULISERS -- the MY 520 -- I bought a
>> few (not sure if my nomenclature is correct!)
>>
>> Research "Food Grade", H2O2 -- used extensively in the Food/packaging
>> industry...
>>
>> NO  stronger than 3% -- in an Ultrasonic Nebuliser --- I've used this
>> method over the years -- Time to adopt again
>>
>> Colloidal Silver users --- also mix the H2O2 into the colloid (I've never
>> done this, but the Silver Archives will have info)and nebulise
>> thisI been using a nebuliser for 15 plus years -- almost every day
>>
>> In SILvationDouglas H
>>
>>
>>
>> Hydrogen Peroxide A Potential Treatment For Coronavirus Infection?
>> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/hydrogen-peroxide-a-potential-treatment-for-coronavirus-infection/ar-BB12qktc>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/hydrogen-peroxide-a-potential-treatment-for-coronavirus-infection/ar-BB12qktc>
>>
>> Hydrogen Peroxide A Potential Treatment For Coronavirus Infection?
>>
>> Health experts said hydrogen peroxide may help fight COVID-19 by
>> preventing the coronavirus from spreading acros...
>>
>> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/hydrogen-peroxide-a-potential-treatment-for-coronavirus-infection/ar-BB12qktc>
>>
>>
>>
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Alan Jones

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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>HPV

[Alan Jones]

Yes, baking soda.  From Ode's web site:

Tactic that works for me for [IMO] PROFOUNDLY greater effectiveness:
1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda in about 1/2 cup water
Drink it down, wait a few minutes.
Follow that with "Silver Water" according to perceived need maybe a cup.
Repeat now and then.
What that does:
The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas
[BURP ! ]
The resulting salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more
water to flush the excess salt out with.
Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little
or no stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"
DO NOT put baking soda in the silver water before,during or after making it

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:04 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Ode wrote about using 1/4-1/2tsp baking soda in a half glass of water.
> Let it sit until it stops fizzing and then drink.  Wait a short time and
> drink a 8oz of EIS..
> This is my memory but you might want to search it in the files.
> PT
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2020, 9:53:10 AM EDT, Mitchel Davis <
> mddav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> How do you do that? Baking soda?
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 7:08 AM Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
>
> neutralizing your stomach acid first makes EIS maybe 100 times more
> effective
> ode
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 2:20 AM Ana Maria Cristina 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you Lynn
>
> > On 13 Apr 2020, at 03:18, Lynn Greene  wrote:
> >
> > So, viruses. Erg. I’d do what Ode said worked for him with shingles.
> 1/2 cup initially, then topically.
> > Covid probably won’t get her, either, when she’s fighting viruses with
> CS.
> > I’ve heard that lasers are sometimes used with genital warts, so you
> could ask your doctor.
> >
> > The HPV vaccine that were used on young girls a few years back, had some
> terrible side
> > effects, as you likely found out. However, the vaccine had to be
> injected when the girls were young
> > and pre-sexual.
> >
> > CS would be a good option, I think. I use it if I get shingles (another
> nasty virus with lots of pain) and the
> > CS seems to calm it right down. If I feel it come on, I take a good dose
> - 1/4 cup or more, then externally.
> > I’ve decided to take CS more often to see if I can destroy the virus
> entirely. Externally, CS does not hurt at all.
> > It just feels better - cooling.
> >
> > Nebulizing CS or hydrogen Peroxide (3% from the drugstore) is
> recommended by Dr Mercola. He has a website and
> > has years and years of good work.
> >
> > Probably someone on the silver list has some experience with HPV.
> >
> > There are some very interesting books on Amazon about CS and one is by a
> doctor.
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 11, 2020, at 11:02 PM, Ana Maria Cristina 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, my daughter has an HPV with genital warts.
> >> Please help.
> >> thank you
> >>
> >>
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to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>nebulizer MY-520

[Alan Jones]

Hi, I just received the MY-520 nebulizer from ebay.

The instructions say to put water in the bottom part, and put the medicine
in the plastic cup in the top part.

When nebulizing CS (or diluted H2O2, for that matter), I'm guessing I can
put CS in both the bottom and top parts, is that right?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:48 PM JD  wrote:

> For those looking for a nebulizer, I just bought one on ebay Thur.  Got
> a MY-520A for $18.85 will arrive on Monday.
>
> 1) Go to  Ebay
>
> 2) Search for "Portable Ultrasonic Nebulizer Handheld Nebuliser
> Respirator Humidifier Adult Kit"
>
> 3) Select US only on left
>
> 4) Should arrive in 3-4 days
>
> Should pop up a few sellers for around $19 (this is a MY-520A). If you
> enter MY-520 you will get a a bunch from China that won't arrive for
> month or two. Or the price will be more.
>
>
>
>
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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>Making Colloidal Copper OT

[Alan Jones]

It can survive on copper surfaces up to 4 hours.  I was shocked to hear
this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/health/coronavirus-surfaces-aerosols.html

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:10 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> I keep reading about the benefits of copper in killing the virus. that
> it kills on contact.
> How do we make colloidal copper for wiping down counters and things like
> that?  I don't want to use my silver because I can ingest it and I wouldn't
> do that necessarily with copper.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>

-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>Making EIS

[Alan Jones]

Might be a good time to invest in a nebulizer as a precautionary measure.

Any suggestions for models?

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:50 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> AMEN!
> PT
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 1:02:40 AM EST, Neville Munn <
> one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> G'day Dan.
> I've read a few articles about this COVID thing ("They" can always come up
> with some name).  The shops are running out of toilet paper as fast as they
> fill the shelves..LOL.  This is what happens when the media starts a panic,
> even the bloody Governments are creating panic among the people.
>
> I heard it was a respiratory thing, then I heard it was an intestinal
> thing?  Intestinal bug will be easy to treat with our stuff.  Even if
> respiratory, Nebulizing  it would/should take it out anyway.  Of course,
> the populous will never know because it won't be tested and made public
> with the media and the Establishment agenda. (Opinion)
>
> People today are so drugged up with so many medications that the immune
> system hasn't stand a chance. (Just another personal observation and
> opinion)
>
> N.
>
> --
> *From:* Dan Nave 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 5 March 2020 2:25 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* CS>Making EIS
>
> Got out the old SilverPuppy and started cranking out colloidal silver.
> Almost set for the COVID-19 pandemic...
>
>

-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus

[Alan Jones]

Ode, thanks for sharing this.  I have read that a test for low stomach acid
is to consume some baking soda in water, and if yuo do NOT burp, this means
you have low stomach acid.

I do not burp so I guess I have low stomach acid.  Should your tactic also
work for people with low stomach acid?

On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 6:58 AM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> IMO..This is a "nebulizer' for the whole body that won't drown you even if
> you suck up a *quart *of EIS.
> I've used it a couple of times on systemic hard to access issues and it is
> AMAZING !!!
> Such an easy simple thing that **sets up your system** to absorb silver
> like a shop vac giggles at the mere thought of drier lint.
> ..makes your blood "HUNGRY" for that ionic silver and it's "SPECIAL"
> patentable proprietary carrier DiHydrogen Oxide...an inert "Inactive" but
> necessary ingredient. [ more commonly called, water..but never mind that.]
>
> https://silverpuppy.com/article/tactic-that-worked-for-me
>
> ..now for my next trick: The Gotchewtoo BS knifecuts through the crap
> like a laser cuts air and never gets dull...straight from the forges of
> Getaclue Inc.
>
> Ode   [I wear a hat so I know where my head is at...DANG!  Left it on the
> hat rack AGAIN. ]
>
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:10 AM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
>> But Ron, we breathe through our noses do we not?  Similarly a Nebuliser
>> surely.  Like ingesting a glass or three during a day, and over several
>> days for something which ails us, why not do the same with a nasal spray,
>> and/or Nebuliser, either way it has to get to the lungs, albeit more
>> frequently, if you understand.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Ron 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 February 2020 7:48 PM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
>> *Subject:* CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus
>>
>> Neville, The nasal spray would not get into lungs well enough but it
>> might be a good carry to Walmart and the like.
>> I'm going Monday & may try it.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On 2/22/2020 12:36 AM, Neville Munn wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, and from a personal perspective, why can't one use a nasal spray
>> full of our 'home grown' silver I ask?  Here in Australia, they are talking
>> about some propriety concoction administered via nasal spray...Well, what's
>> new, I don't see any difference between "their" product and what we make in
>> our homes?
>>
>> N.
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Dan Nave  
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 February 2020 3:02 PM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
>> 
>> *Subject:* CS>Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat Coronavirus
>>
>>
>> https://thesilveredge.com/chinese-using-silver-fogger-machine-to-beat-coronavirus/
>>
>>
>> Silver Edge article on the Chinese Using “Silver Fogger Machine” to Beat
>> Coronavirus
>>
>>

-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>Vaccination or no vaccination

[Alan Jones]

Note that the FDA actually admits that the adult Tdap vaccination is not
effective in preventing the spread of whooping cough.

https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/infectious-diseases-conditions/fda-study-helps-provide-understanding-rising-rates-pertussis-response

*This research suggests that although individuals immunized with an
acellular pertussis vaccine may be protected from disease, they may still
become infected with the bacteria without always getting sick and are able
to spread infection to others, including young infants who are susceptible
to pertussis disease.*

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 8:55 AM Bernadette Burch  wrote:

> I am jumping into the conversation a little late.
>
>  I refuse all the offered vaccines, no flu vacs, no pneumonia vacs, no
> shingle vacs, etc., .  They never argue with me.  I had a nurse say “we
> have to ask you if you want them, but between you and me, we think you are
> right to refuse them”.
>
> I did, however, accept the whooping cough vaccination, considering my
> daughter said “no whooping cough vaccine, no holding your new
> granddaughter”.  This was a no brainer.
>
> Bernadette
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Reid wrote: Can others on the list please tell me, how do you respond (or
> not) when the doctor's staff tell you you really, really need that
> vacination. I'm inclined to tell them I'll only do this if I were to be
> barred from further appointments. Am I being unreasonable or are they?
>
>
>
> Marshall wrote: We just say no.  If they can't accept that, then we change
> doctors.
>
>
>
> =
>
> I agree. We are paying for their services and aren't obligated to make
> them happy. They are supposed to abide by what we want, not vice-versa. I
> would never consent to being bullied like that.
>
>
>
> Nenah
>
>
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> *
>
> *Beautiful, handmade, one-of-a-kind items from*
>
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>
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Re: Fwd: CS MMS - Info Request

[Alan Jones]

IMO MMS does indeed have a place in the alternative medicine cabinet.  For
example it has a well established record in usage for Malaria, look it up.

Also go to youtube and search for MMS Testimonials, it's pretty amazing.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:47 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I just did a search on the internet and it turned up a great deal of info
 including some self-treatments that seemed to help.  Look at
 earthclinic.com
 PT

   --
  *From:* Hotchillige hotchill...@optusnet.com.au
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 8:58 PM
 *Subject:* Fwd: CS MMS - Info Request



 Sent from my iPhone


 Hi Guys has anyone heard of Grover's disease I've had for more than 10
 years and tried every thing. I've been taking CS for about 2 years now and
 just starting zapping the last 3 weeks. Like I said l'll try anything
 preferably not pharma med. my Doctor told me 9 years ago there is no cure
 but I still hav'nt given up! My diet is GF and I try not to eat anything
 that modified to much and lots of ozinated water, exercise regularly. Any
 help appreciated ;-)

 Sent from my iPhone



 On 28 Oct 2014, at 10:38 am, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote:

 WOW that sounds a lot like the diatribe from the mainstream about
 colloidal silver.
 I can attest that Chlorine dioxide in a gas form coupled with Wobenzyme
 enzymes cured me of Lyme two years ago that I had suffered with for nearly
 60 years. No side effects at all.
 Dave

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Sandra ...   better drop MMS.   I've found nothing to recommend it.

 I rate it Death Wish #2, exceeded only by Death Wish #1 (vaccines).

 *The Effects of Chlorine on the Body*
 The environmental protection agency website explains
 http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0496.htm that chlorine dioxide reduces
 activity in laboratory rats, and produces neurological disorders. However,
 there have been very few studies on the effects of orally consumed chlorine
 dioxide, because governmental agencies do not assume that people will be
 drinking a chlorine bleach as a supplement.
 Chlorine has been known for years to both cause and worsen respiratory
 http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/832336-overview problems,
 including asthma and pneumonia. As a thyroid crippling halogen, chlorine
 damages enzymes across the board to decimate the immune system upon
 ingestion or inhalation. Chlorine causes
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15539172 magnesium deficiency, which
 can cause almost any symptom you can imagine, from migraine headaches, high
 blood pressure, chemical sensitivity, and in severe cases: sudden death,
 according to Mark J. Eisenberg, MD.. When such magnesium deficiencies are
 combined with MSG intake, it sometimes leads to sudden and unexpected heart
 failure; even amongst young people. Chlorine also decreases
 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15539172 the absorption of calcium
 and phosphorus while increasing their excretion. This loss of calcium into
 the urine leads to bone-related problems including osteoporosis. Chlorine
 has been known to irritate the skin, the eyes, and the respiratory system.
 It has a tendency to react with other chemicals (especially acids) to
 produce even more toxic byproducts. Some of chlorine's byproducts are known
 as trihalomethanes (THM's) that are typically found in municipal water. An
 example of a THM is chloroform, a well documented cancer causing agent.
 Studies have repeatedly
 http://www.advisorybodies.doh.gov.uk/coc/clh2o08.htm demonstrated that
 chlorine and THM's are leading causes of colon and bladder cancers, as well
 as diabetes, kidney stones, and sudden heart attacks.
 Chlorine-tainted water changes the preferred HDL cholesterol into LDL
 cholesterol, creates free radicals inside the body that require more
 antioxidant vitamins to neutralize, and it destroys fatty acids that are
 needed by the heart. According to the book, *Coronaries Cholesterol
 Chlorine* by Dr. Joseph M. Price, chlorination was first suspected of
 causing heart disease during the Korean War, because the men who had
 canteens with the highest amounts of chlorine also had the greatest damage
 to their arteries. Physically fit soldiers in their twenties had arteries
 reminiscent of their seventy-year-old grandfathers.








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Re: CS MMS Info Request

[Alan Jones]

You might consider the newer protocol 1000 (google it) which involves
taking 1-3 drops per hour for 8+ hours per day.

It's supposed to be more effective than a big dose, and it's definitely
easier on the tummy.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote:

 V
 The way I use it is in the gas form called CDS. 15 drops, after the
 initial getting used to it, in about half a glass of apple juice. If you
 don't breath in through your nose so you don't smell it you can't hardly
 taste it at all.
 Dave

 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:35 AM, V highergroun...@gmail.com wrote:

 lol, there will always be scaremongering. Sadly not for prescription
 meds, at least until the death toll is high enough. I have used MMS and you
 have to build up slowly. And there will always be those who don't follow
 direction. I moved to other alternatives as the smell was so nauseating
 after a while. A capsule method would be more palatable if I decide I want
 to use it again.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Da Darrin ddarrin...@gmail.com wrote:

 OH MY GOD  I'm dead.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Phil Morrison 
 philmorrison...@gmail.com wrote:



 On July 30, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food
 and Drug Administration
 http://www.ask.com/wiki/United_States_Food_and_Drug_Administration?qsrc=3044
  (FDA), warned against the use of the product Miracle Mineral
 Supplement
 http://www.ask.com/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement?qsrc=3044 or
 MMS, which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine
 dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions,
 including HIV, cancer, and acne. The FDA warnings informed consumers that
 MMS can cause serious harm to health, and stated that it has received
 numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood
 pressure caused by dehydration,[29]
 http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-29[30]
 http://www.ask.com/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide#cite_note-30 among other
 symptoms, such as diarrhea.







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Re: CSMMS

[Alan Jones]

If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in hearing
your evidence.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:

  Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS.
 I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you
 might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are
 consuming.
 All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff
 written was written by Jim Humble himself.
 MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name.
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Re: CSMMS

[Alan Jones]

I don't know if he really ever claimed to be a god from another planet.
Sounds more like a deliberate mis-characterization of the following he
wrote in a newsletter once:

More than 1/2 of all the students that have arrived here have told me, I
believe in MMS, but there is some other reason why I came. I just had to
come. Something made me come. OK, so let me tell you a little more about
the dream. A large group of us, well small group in relation to the number
of people on this planet, lived on another planet, in another galaxy. We
were assembled together at that time in the past. And without getting into
a lot of details we agreed to finally assemble on Earth in the beginning of
the 3rd Millennium for the purpose of creating peace on Earth and in the
Galaxy. The dream included the fact that we were losing our powers and that
they would all be lost by the time we finally arrived on Earth or by the
beginning of the 3rd Millennium. But that was part of the “big plan”. The
Gods on Mount Olympus were the last to lose their powers.

And another Amazing part. These students, are both young and old from
around the world, and although they mostly haven't remembered the dream
like some others have, more than 90% of them have said that they believe in
the dream and they know it is our job to help bring peace to Earth and that
we will be a great part of the peace movement. Part of the dream is as our
emblem says, A world without disease. They have all said that they want
to help and be a part of the Ministers of Health of the Genesis 2 church of
Health and healing.
On Oct 28, 2014 3:53 PM, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote:

 He also said he was a god on another planet and came down to save mankind
 in one of his newsletters.

 Still I have read peoples' testimonials who did get benefits from MMS, and
 I have some in my own cupboard

 The whole church thing is creepy to me tho and I'm a Christian!

 Gail


   On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:10 PM, Scott Adams msad...@msadams.com
 wrote:


 I also do not trust Mr. Humble. His turning his business into an official
 religion, making MMS it’s sacrament and him the high priest was the final
 straw for me.


 Scott Adams
 I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet!
 www.lyme-resource.com


 *From:* Ron [mailto:ron@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:47 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSMMS

 Not accusations. Opinions. I simply read all I could find on the internet
 both pro  con. I evaluated the sources and decided that Humble was a not
 what he claimed to be and that MMS was in fact bleach.
 All of the stuff I read is available to anyone who will spend the time 
 effort.
 Ron
 On 10/28/2014 11:34 AM, Alan Jones wrote:

 If you can support these accusations we'd all be very interested in
 hearing your evidence.

 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ron ron@gmail.com wrote:
 Some time ago I read a lot about Jim Humble and MMS.
 I decided that he was a co man and MMS was a total fraud and that you
 might as well dink household bleach and in fact that is about what you are
 consuming.
 All of the testimonials were from plants and most or all of the stuff
 written was written by Jim Humble himself.
 MMS is household bleach. Clorox by any other name.
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Re: CSHi there - kidney infection

[Alan Jones]

How much baking soda and water?


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@silverpuppy.com
wrote:

 I treated a UTI by first drinking some baking soda water to neutralize
 stomach acid, preventing the instant formation of Silver Chloride
 The by products are Carbon Dioxide gas and Salt.
 The Salt enters the blood stream and makes the body want more water to
 flush it out.

 Drink a half cup of CS [EIS]  soon after the baking soda water to quench
 the thirsty bloodtakes it straight to the kidneys, bladder and on out.

 Did that 3 times and within 6 hours, symptoms were near normal, MUCH
 [VASTLY]  reduced pain and burning and bloody red urine was back to
 yellow, albeit a cloudy yellow

 Ode



 On 7/26/2014 4:56 AM, Dee wrote:

 Hello all, it is a while since I was on the list due to many
 circumstances.  I have had many problems since leaving, mainly my husbands
 health.  His latest problem is another kidney infection which the doctors
 have given him anti biotic for. The trouble is, he is having trouble
 swallowing them and they also make him sick. I was wondering if anyone has
 treated this with EIS and what would the dose be?  Hoping you are all well
 and that someone can help.

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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #107

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http://www.dmso.org/

I bought my DMSO at a horse supply store.


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Colin Smith magicmagi...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 Can you clarify what DMSO and MSM are?

 I am working on defeating a re-occurance of Bowel Cancer... very low down
 Rectal in fact.

 I have been taking a small glass of C/S morning and night and I am sure it
 has helped with my general well being. Would DMSO or MSM help deliver it
 and increase its effectiveness?

 Where would I buy this from... I am in Australia by the way.

 I am not relying on C/S on its own, I have completely changed my diet to
 low Carb, mainly raw food, no sugars or soft drinks etc. and open to all
 suggestions but all advise would be very welcome.

 Thanks,

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Re: CSCroft zapper

[Alan Jones]

Thanks for sharing this.  I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore, does
he?

Do you know the specs on this zapper?  (eg. frequency, voltage, current)



On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Congratulations on your success with this device.  If your experience is
 anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning.  The pain of a
 devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and
 for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one
 hour of use of the zapper.  I had sat down to read while using the device
 for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the
 kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the
 pain.  Whoop te do!!  I zapped day and night after that and actually
 thought that might be the only benefit I would get.  However, after 2 to 3
 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone.
  I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly.
 My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week.  Redness
 gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week.  My
 uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15
 years since these things took place.  I have used a zapper nearly every day
 since then.  My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money
 back guarantee.  Best money I ever spent.  I keep a spare on hand at all
 times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times.  I refer to
 the zapper as my immortality device.  So far, so good.  :)  Best wishes to
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Re: CSCroft zapper

[Alan Jones]

I went to Don Croft's site and his site endorses this site for basic $35
zappers:

   http://www.ctbusters.com/shop/store/product/basic_zapper/


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for sharing this.  I don't think he sells a $50 zapper anymore,
 does he?

 Do you know the specs on this zapper?  (eg. frequency, voltage, current)



 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Congratulations on your success with this device.  If your experience is
 anything like mine then your benefits are just beginning.  The pain of a
 devilish heel spur (one which the physician described as a whopper and
 for which I had 2 cortisone shots (refused a third), was gone in about one
 hour of use of the zapper.  I had sat down to read while using the device
 for the first time and when I arose to get water, I was half way to the
 kitchen when I realized that I was not holding onto things to lessen the
 pain.  Whoop te do!!  I zapped day and night after that and actually
 thought that might be the only benefit I would get.  However, after 2 to 3
 weeks the extreeeme fatigue I had been experiencing for some time was gone.
  I am much stronger now, but the unbelievable fatigue was gone quickly.
 My son's acne which was pretty bad,, was gone in less than a week.  Redness
 gone in about one hour and the rest was healed up in less than a week.  My
 uncertainty about time involved is mostly because it has been close to 15
 years since these things took place.  I have used a zapper nearly every day
 since then.  My first one was his original one--$50.00 and a 30 day money
 back guarantee.  Best money I ever spent.  I keep a spare on hand at all
 times and keep a large supply of 9 volt batteries at all times.  I refer to
 the zapper as my immortality device.  So far, so good.  :)  Best wishes to
 all.   pj




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CSMMS testimonials

[Alan Jones]

I know lots of people aren't on board with MMS, but there's some pretty
nice testimonials on this Youtube channel.  I think the newer protocols
they came up with help a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxDVGHL2NMfeature=em-uploademail

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Re: CSRE: EIS generator

[Alan Jones]

Do you know what quantities you want to make, and how often?


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Simonsen, John 
john.simon...@oregonstate.edu wrote:

 Hello,

 I want to buy an EIS generator and would appreciate people's opinions on
 the best models available.

 Thanks.

 John


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Re: CSHair Elements Test

[Alan Jones]

In the toxic metals category all were low, except silver.

For essential metals/elements, iodine was a little high (2.5ug/g; ref range
is 0.25-1.8; I take powdered kelp, not a lot), that's the only one that was
outside the reference range.

Magnesium and Potassium were very low, as was lithium, all below the
reference ranges.



On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Phil Morrison philmorrison...@gmail.comwrote:


 Interest to know what other elements tested above normal in your hair test
 results.




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CSHair Elements test

[Alan Jones]

Greetings.  Anyone ever get the Hair Elements test from directlabs.com?  I
just got my results back and perhaps I shouldn't be surprised but my Silver
levels are super high (0.46ug/g, reference range is 0.08).

Seems that high levels could be a good sign that I'm excreting the silver
well?

I make EIS with a Silver Puppy, lately I've been taking pretty high doses,
4-12oz per day (trying to beat heavy fatigue...).

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Re: CSSilver Puppy

[Alan Jones]

No problem.  More info:  http://silverpuppy.com/Instructions.html


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:28 PM, melly tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Alan Jones,

 ** **

 Thank you for your reply.  I left at the swap – manual mode, and I made
 higher ppm without too much of the fuzz like when it is on dc.

 ** **

 Take care.

 ** **

 Melly

 ** **




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Re: CSSilver Puppy for Ken

[Alan Jones]

I do this all of the time -- use manual + swap.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:34 AM, melly tita_...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Ken,

 ** **

 Please ignore my previous message that there is no light when I set up the
 machines.  Embarrassing, but it was because my electrodes were not pushed
 in well and eventually fell off the generator.

 ** **

 To make higher ppm, I put it on manual and swap modes.  Is that ok, or
 should it be in manual and dc modes?

 ** **

 Thanks.

 ** **

 Melly

 ** **

 When diet is wrong, medicine is of no use.

 When diet is correct, medicine is of no need.

 The best way to forget all your troubles is to 

 wear tight shoes.

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Re: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES

[Alan Jones]

Just got this in my mailbox today:

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v09n17.shtml

Vitamin C, Shingles, and Vaccination Opinion by Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD

...
Treatment of Shingles with Vitamin C

The clinical response of shingles to vitamin C therapy is decidedly
different from its response to traditional therapies. While there are not
many reports in the literature on vitamin C and shingles, the studies that
do exist are striking. Frederick Klenner, MD, who pioneered the effective
use of vitamin C in a wide variety of infections and toxin exposures,
published the results of his vitamin C therapy on eight patients with
shingles. He gave 2,000 to 3,000 mg of vitamin C by injection every 12
hours, supplemented by 1,000 mg in fruit juice by mouth every two hours. In
seven of the eight patients treated in this manner, *complete pain
relief*was reported within two hours of the first vitamin C injection.
All
patients received a total of five to seven vitamin C injections. Having had
shingles myself years before I knew of the efficacy of vitamin C therapy, I
can assert that this is nothing short of a stunning result on what is
usually a painful and debilitating disease.



On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:24 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 That is not true Neville.  I have interrupted the natural course of
 shingles with acupuncture.  You just have to find an acupuncturist who know
 what they are doing.
 Blessings,  PT


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 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, August 23, 2013 11:04 PM
 *Subject:* RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES


 Well I guess if a bloke's going to test something there's no point in
 doing so without including opinions.

 I am forming the opinion that although this case is improving, Shingles
 may have a natural course it must take, and nothing really assists in the
 recovery.

 I'm beginning to form an opinion that EIS does not necessarily speed
 recovery, nor reduce severity, nor assist in any way other than by spraying
 it on may assist in the healing of the sores and prevent possible infection
 from clothing materials, and of course not forgetting assisting in skin
 tissue repair.

 This is why I questioned the 'severity' definition in trying to determine
 efficacy and recovery in any given protocol applied to any given case of
 Shingles i.e. Mild, Moderate, Bad or Severe etc?  I knocked it out in our
 lad in a week, this case appears to be lessening at this point in
 time...BUT, how long does one usually have Shingles?  Perhaps a time line,
 or defining each case in determining severity level which is an indicator
 of recovery time line, i.e. a week, two weeks, a month, or maybe longer
 dependant on severity level?

 I bumped up the intake to 200 odd ml twice a day as well as spraying on
 areas.  And here's where that bloody blue media propaganda raises its ugly
 stupid head and lingers in the back of the mind, and that really p*sses me
 off.  Similar to that Jaws movie, just can't erase it from the mind, a
 weakness in character and lowering of intelligence.  I try things using
 myself as a guinea pig but tend to allow doubts to creep in with someone
 else, I don't particularly care about myself because *someone* has to do
 it, but I do care about others.

 One *MUST* stand firm in the knowledge that the media, the establishment,
 the FDA, our TGA, past cases of smurfism etc etc are *NOT* and do *NOT*
 reference the substance we produce and use, it's chalk and cheese, apples
 and oranges, HVAC vs LVDC, high particle content vs high Ag+ ion content.

 I've been ingesting around 30ml every day for nigh on 10 years and I
 haven't yet changed to any shade of blue, and trust me, we get plenty of
 sun here as I'm sure they do most anywhere else on this planet, so if I was
 going to 'self develop' I would imagine I would have done so long
 before this.

 It's really difficult when we are brainwashed and conditioned throughout
 our lives to conform or believe what published material, or these so called
 'authorities?' try to force us to believe, and it bugs me that I find
 myself STILL getting sucked into that BS hole as well.  I have to
 constantly remind myself of that Bob Newhart Youtube skit - - - STOP IT!
  Hence the only answer is to experiment with oneself and/or with those whom
 are willing.

 Just venting some inadequacies in independent thinking here.

 N.


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 Subject: RE: CSHORRIBLE SHINGLES
 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:57:40 +1030

 I beli





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Re: CSarthritus

[Alan Jones]

Breakfast for me has been a green smoothie:
-  Garden of Life RAW Meal
-  1 cup frozen berries
-  1T fish oil
-  1T MCT oil
-  kale/spinach/etc
-  various other supplements


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:49 AM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might  want to  try a  massage rub  with wild marjoram(thymus
 mastachine)
 and hemp oil. tke the hemp internally in a smoothy or
 something..flax..pumpkin seed oil and sesame seed oils  are all good
 too. UdoErasmus has written a very definattive  book  called fats that
 heal. google the title..probably on amazon.
 Regards
 Tara
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 On 8/12/13, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com wrote:
  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
  borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
 stillhave
  this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
  australian dream cream.
  Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
  antiinflammatory.
  i also use cayenne internally.
  Thanks a lot!
 
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 Lord
  Jesus Christ.
  Gary  Lennie
 


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Re: CSArthritis - Fluoride

[Alan Jones]

I use a Berkey water filter.  There is an add-on flouride filter that's
pretty affordable.  My puppies also get the benefit of drinking affordable
filtered water.


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Anne Ney aney3...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you get enough rain water to drink?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 14, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote:

  There has been plenty written in the past about the link between
 Fluoridated water and arthritis, and the reasons behind it.
 
  I thought I was all right; I used Reverse Osmosis water for years. About
 30 years. Nice water, probably germ free.
 
  Only recently did I read somewhere that RO water doesn't get rid of
 fluoride (though there are some expensive units which are claimed to do so).
 
  Last year I started using rain water.  I noticed after a while that it
 had become less dangerous for me to get out of the bath. Everything was
 still painful, but there were more things that were possible, if not pain
 free.
 
  After some months we decided for the time being to replace the filters
 in the RO unit, which had been blocked all this time.  We had been
 wondering whether to buy a new unit, and decided to postpone it, as we
 would have wanted the expensive one.
 
  Almost immediately upon drinking the RO-filtered water, getting out of
 the bath returned to being a painful and dangerous task.
 
  This was more valuable information to me than any official
 pronouncement.  My own joints had spoken.
 
  Since then I have only used rainwater for drinking. Ordinary tap water
 for bathing.
 
  I am not doing all the other anti-arthritic things (well, I do make up
 some essential oil mixes), but that alone makes a difference. Not pain
 free, but able to do more than previously.
 
  R
 
 
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Re: CSArthritis - Fluoride

[Alan Jones]

Add-on not in the sense that it adds flouride!  It's an extra fliter that
gets connected which removes flouride.


http://www.bigberkeywaterfilters.com/pf-2-arsenic-and-fluoride-water-filters-2.html


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Why would you use an add-on fluoride filter if you are trying to get rid
 of fluoride?
 Thanks.
 PT



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 *Subject:* Re: CSArthritis - Fluoride

 I use a Berkey water filter.  There is an add-on flouride filter that's
 pretty affordable.  My puppies also get the benefit of drinking affordable
 filtered water.


 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Anne Ney aney3...@gmail.com wrote:

 How do you get enough rain water to drink?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 14, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote:

  There has been plenty written in the past about the link between
 Fluoridated water and arthritis, and the reasons behind it.
 
  I thought I was all right; I used Reverse Osmosis water for years. About
 30 years. Nice water, probably germ free.
 
  Only recently did I read somewhere that RO water doesn't get rid of
 fluoride (though there are some expensive units which are claimed to do so).
 
  Last year I started using rain water.  I noticed after a while that it
 had become less dangerous for me to get out of the bath. Everything was
 still painful, but there were more things that were possible, if not pain
 free.
 
  After some months we decided for the time being to replace the filters
 in the RO unit, which had been blocked all this time.  We had been
 wondering whether to buy a new unit, and decided to postpone it, as we
 would have wanted the expensive one.
 
  Almost immediately upon drinking the RO-filtered water, getting out of
 the bath returned to being a painful and dangerous task.
 
  This was more valuable information to me than any official
 pronouncement.  My own joints had spoken.
 
  Since then I have only used rainwater for drinking. Ordinary tap water
 for bathing.
 
  I am not doing all the other anti-arthritic things (well, I do make up
 some essential oil mixes), but that alone makes a difference. Not pain
 free, but able to do more than previously.
 
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Re: CSarthritus

[Alan Jones]

I recently discovered a book called The Virgin Diet.  Don't worry, it's
not what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.

The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
allergies/sensitivities.

The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn,
soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire
book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and
small amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)

After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one
of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.

I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me
minor pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before it
gets bad.

You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a waste of
time.  For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've
not even had the slightest urge to cheat.

-Alan


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.comwrote:

 Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
 borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave
 this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
 australian dream cream.
 Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
 antiinflammatory.
 i also use cayenne internally.
 Thanks a lot!

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Re: CSarthritus/arthritis

[Alan Jones]

That's a great link, thanks for sharing it.


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Monique Sauve moniquesa...@shaw.cawrote:

  The diet you describe is basically the autoimmune paleo diet. It works. I
 have rheumatoid arthritis and this diet keeps me mobile without meds.  It
 is not easy but is worth it.

 http://www.thepaleomom.com/autoimmunity/the-autoimmune-protocol

 Monique



 On 8/12/2013 7:54 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote:

  Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called The Virgin
 Diet.  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
 allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
 candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I
 actually haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
 think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup are still
 OK.) After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce
 one of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.

 ** **

 I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
 arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
 since I started. 

 

 Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of “no” foods I would add NIGHTSHADES.
 They contain chemical compounds that many people cannot neutralize, and the
 debris ends up in the joints and causes pain. Nightshades include white
 potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most pepper (bell  hot—including
 cayenne—though not peppercorns), tobacco, Goji berries, belladonna, and a
 few other things.

 ** **

 Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades, including why
 sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You can do a search.

 ** **

 Best,

 Nenah

 ** **

 Nenah Sylver, PhD

 author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)

 *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)

 VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

 www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com 

 ** **

 ** **





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Re: Fw: CS MoM/Club Soda mix

[Alan Jones]

It's a highly absorb-able form of Magnesium


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com wrote:

 What is the purpose of this elixir?

 TIA,

 Jim


 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
  wrote:

 **
 Amazingly in Australia we cannot buy MoM - our equivalent is full of
 Aluminium - I recently asked a friend in UK to send me some Original MoM
 and he looked and looked and it is currently NOT available in UK - so if
 you ever want MoM for your stock cupboard - get it now before it
 disappears!  //  Jane


 *Subject:* Re: Fw: CS MoM/Club Soda mix


 Wrongo, Harold! I was surprised to see sodium hypochlorite on the label
 as a non-medicinal ingredient, but it's there. Try using a magnifying glass
 as the print is quite small.





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Re: Re: CSArthritis

[Alan Jones]

I already sent the recipe -- here it is again:
http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Jane MacRoss
highfie...@internode.on.netwrote:

 **
 I was looking for this recipe - thanks - can you be more specific please?
 MoM  Soda water?  //  Jane


 I sent this yesterday, but it didn't go through, so here it is without the
 attachments.

 Joe






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Re: CSmilk of magnesia

[Alan Jones]

OK, I'll bite -- why?  I skimmed the article and nothing jumped out.

-Alan


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 http://www.buzzle.com/**articles/milk-of-magnesia-**ingredients.htmlhttp://www.buzzle.com/articles/milk-of-magnesia-ingredients.html

 Think I personally will give it a miss.
 sol


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Re: CSmilk of magnesia

[Alan Jones]

Thanks, I was not familiar with sodium hypochlorite -- turns out this is
bleach.


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:10 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Alan Jones wrote:

 OK, I'll bite -- why?  I skimmed the article and nothing jumped out.

  Read it more carefully. Sodium hypochlorite? Only one of the
 miscellaneous things it contains that I don't want go ingest.



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Re: CSmilk of magnesia

[Alan Jones]

Also note that you can use bleach as a water purifier -- one reference I
read said to use 2 drops per gallon.

In small enough quantities bleach may be effectively harmless.  No idea of
the quantities found in MoM.

I believe Dr. Sircus claims that this mag bicarb solution is significantly
more absorb-able than other Mg supplements, most of which are poorly
absorbed.

I guess each of us must weigh the benefits with the risks.


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I am not a chemist.  I suggest you do some research on your own if it is a
 problem for you.  This has been used by people with atrial fibrillation
 issues for some time now.
 PT


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 *Subject:* Re: CSmilk of magnesia

 It is still going to have the toxic stuff in it though. They do not
 magically disappear? Can you state the chemical reactions which occur to
 transform them into non-toxins?

 sol

 PT Ferrance wrote:
  Then you would be missing an excellent and cheap source of magnesium.
 When combined with the carbonic acid in the club soda it forms a whole new
 substance which is capable of quick delivery of magnesium to the system.
  PT
 
 
  
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Re: CSArthritus

[Alan Jones]

Here's more info on the magnesium bicarb recipe:
www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf

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Re: CSCandida....Borax

[Alan Jones]

JuGargo, I had bookmarked the following page.  I can't vouch for it, just
sharing info:

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:17 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:

 **
 Thank you for your answer Marshall... what, in your opinion, would be the
 protocal for getting rid of Candida using the Boron?

  In a message dated 7/24/2013 1:15:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
 mdud...@king-cart.com writes:

 Boron is a necessary trace element the body needs, but like many others,
 too much of it is toxic.  Generally a supplemental amount by mouth would be
 to wet a fingertip, dip it in the borax, and lick it off.  No more than
 that in a day.  It has a similar toxicity as boric acid, which is used as
 an ant poison.

 If you look at the label on Terro ant poison, you will find it contains
 borax as the active ingredient. Interestingly it warns to keep it away from
 food, and not to store around food, and to not use on things like
 countertops.  However, borax, which is 100% borax, instead of a few percent
 like the ant poison has no such warnings.  Weird Federal regulations that
 seem more concerned with labeling than logic.

 Marshall

 On 7/24/2013 2:56 PM, juga...@aol.com wrote:


 I have a question if someone would be so kind as to provide an answer.  I
 bought 20 Mule Team Borax this weekend at the store.  On the side panels
 there is a warning about ingesting this product.  It warns if you ingest
 this Borax that you should contact a doctor immediately.  Is this warning
 because they don't want people to know that this product can provide a cure
 for this candida?  Or will I get deathly ill if this is taken internally?
 Thank you .. Judy






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Re: CSCandida

[Alan Jones]

The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's
definitely contraindicated.

Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to
almost zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially
coconut.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
 and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
 ringworm in other parts of my body.
 My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
 with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
 as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
 this matter...

 Regards
 Gidon




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Re: CSCandida

[Alan Jones]

Most folks will say that CS does not help with Candida, it's basically only
good for killing virus and bacteria.

I've never heard about the idea that starving Candida will cause it to
spore, but AFAIK to beat Candida you must simultaneously starve it and kill
it.  There are several options available for killing it, including coconut
oil.

Also, look into taking L-Gutamine for healing the damage to the gut caused
by Candida.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Alan,
 I don't get the rationale behind cutting on the fruit and adding the fats?
 I know lots of natural healers say that it will starve the fungus (which
 likes sugars). But to my logic, since it's a fungus, starving it will only
 cause it to spore, in which state it is almost untouchable... am I wrong
 here?
 Could CS do any good here?

 Gidon



 From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSCandida

 The vegan diet is not for everybody, and if you have Candidiasis, it's
 definitely contraindicated.
 Still, if you insist on staying with it, you should decrease fruit to
 almost
 zero, and up the healthy fats -- olives, avocado, and especially coconut.

 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Gidon Kenar gidonke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 I found to have systemic Candida which besides giving ma bad digestion, gas
 and sometimes diarrhea, also manifests itself as fungi in my foot and a
 ringworm in other parts of my body.
 My diet is vegan, based mostly on raw fruits, vegetables and green leaves
 with practically no processed foods. I would like to keep this diet as much
 as possible while treating this malady, and would appreciate any ideas in
 this matter...

 Regards
 Gidon




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Re: CSCandida

[Alan Jones]

Some experts say ACV is OK with Candida, others say it's not.  I have no
idea who is right but keep this in mind.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:33 AM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:


 Use some apple cider vinigar on your foods and salad dressings.


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Re: CSCS for swwollen knee with heat?

[Alan Jones]

MSM was already mentioned, but you might consider consuming large
quantities of it, working up to as much as half a cup a day.  Many folks
like myself buy animal-grade MSM (eg. from Amazon) which is fine for
humans, and this way it's dirt cheap.  If the MSM does not help no matter,
it has lots of other benefits.  It is supposed to be anti-inflammatory.

Another dirt cheap option is to try a Godzilla zapper on the knee.  It
basically consists of a large 6v battery connected to wet sponges via
wires.  Info is on the following Yahoo group, but I can send you info if
you like.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

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Re: CSTooth infection

[Alan Jones]

The Godzilla zapper (basically 6v battery connected to wet sponges) is
supposed to be great for tooth infections, altho I have no experience with
it in this context.

-Alan

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Heather W heatherwy...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just got back from the dentist. He did an xray on my mercury amalgam
 filling to see what it would cost to take it out. He said because of the
 expanding and contracting of the filling I now have a crack down the tooth
 and int ok the root. He said it is infected and could start bothering me
 really soon, or not for a while. But it WILL end up being a problem. I am
 wondering if anyone has had success in treating a tooth infection of this
 magnitude with CS? And if so, what techniques did you use? Thank you in
 advance for the advice!

 Heather




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Re: CSAfib

[Alan Jones]

Is this what you are referring to?

http://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 You will need to google it.  There is a website for A-fibbers.
 PT

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 *Subject:* Re: CSAfib

 What is it??

 On 3/3/2013 9:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

  Have you tried the A-fibber's cocktail?
 PT

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Re: CShiv testimonial - CS did not work for me.

[Alan Jones]

Hey Bob, you might not be aware that Jim Humble has improved the MMS
protocols dramatically to make them much more tolerable.  Take a look at
the protocol 1000 on http://www.jimhumble.biz.

-Alan

On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM, bob Larson bobli...@att.net wrote:

 **
 ...i read/followed the MMS scene for a couple years since it's onset.  i
 bought enough bulk powder to make lots of little bottles, and used it with
  without CS experinenting  on my hepC.
 the stuff is vile, and for most there comes a time when it is too
 repulsive to take down.
 i read many HIV/AIDS failures and zero successes in local groups.  all the
 stories of MMS, zappers, beck protocol, Ag4O4,rife,... etc in africa and
 other places seem to have much better luck than here in the USA.  go figger.
 in my observation MMS won't do much good for anything except maybe some
 parasitic issues that CS won't do.

 a LOT more daily CS might help your declining immune system but won't do
 miracles for your HIV+.

 blood electrification (a la Beck) only kills virus in the bloodstream, but
 the HIV apparently must be reached somewhere in intestinal linings or
 someplace or the viral load comes right back quickly.  there are no mag
 pulsers available likely to do anything with possible exception of the
 doug coil.and they must be custom made and $$$  probably of limited if
 any value for HIV... look for testimoinials.

 ozone can help a lot, but not really a cure either.  injected IV has
 power, drinking ozonated water is good and probably helpful.



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Re: CShiv testimonial - CS did not work for me.

[Alan Jones]

A useful data point.  1.5 ounces per day is not very much CS.  You might
consider trying more, however i have no idea how much is needed.

-Alan

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Guys and Girls,

 Iam a 27 year old guy asymptomatic hiv+ infected, diagnosed 6 months ago.

 So I made my own colloidal silver @ 10ppm (using destilled water)
 I did a CD4 count test before and I had started with a 494 mark.
 I drank CS 3 times per day 15ml each time. Total 45ml per day.
 After two months I was so anxious to see what progress I made and took the
 CD4 count test, the result was I reached a low of 400, and the virus viral
 load had actually increased from 15k to 16k.

 Iam not implying that colloidal silver actually lowered my cd4 count, but
 because this was a very pronounced decline and if I shall face another such
 i would be in trouble i could not continue such treatment.

 Maybe this testimonial will be helpfull to somebody.

 Alex


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Re: CSsharing my experience - OT

[Alan Jones]

OK I checked my email archive, I see you bought a 3 frequency zapper.
Which frequencies were you using for 8 hours per day?

-Alan

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, thanks for sharing this.  Please let us know what you mean by
 zapper.  Bob Beck?  Hulda Clark?  Rife?  Other??

 -Alan


 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 About 7-8 weeks ago I decided to purchase a zapper and start zapping.  I
 used it on an average about 8 hours per day.  In less than a month I no
 longer needed thyroid medication and much of the body pain I manage was
 under better control.  I was more comfortable and happier.  About 2-3 weeks
 ago I started having arrhythmias and they got progressively more frequent
 and more serious.  This week I had one bout that went on for over 2 hours
 and which left me exhausted.  Clearly something was wrong.  I spoke with my
 practitioner who suggested that I not zap for a few days and that I up my B
 vitamin and mineral intake.  I did this and the arrhythmias disappeared.  I
 even zapped today and did not have any problems.  When we discussed this my
 practitioner offered the possibility that when we zap we are killing
 critters and dumping a lot of trash that is wound up in our connective
 tissue into our system for excretion.  This is a stress on the body and
 uses B vitamins and minerals.  I did not know to adjust for this event and
 ended up putting myself through some very nasty experiences.

 I offer this so those of you who do similar things consider the stress on
 the body that getting healthy can cause and that you might want to up your
 supplementation to help support a healthy state.  If I can help anyone
 avoid what I went through it will be a Blessing.
 PT



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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSsharing my experience - OT

[Alan Jones]

Thanks.  I have the Clark zapper, which I bought off ebay a few years back,
which is 30kHz only.

I found the following plans for a 15Hz zapper, I may have to give it a go.

http://www.ryanmcginty.com/orgone/zapperinfo.pdf

I would love to get off of my thyroid meds.

-Alan

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:38 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I mixed them up but found that the 15Hz was the one that I could feel
 working on the muscles and connective tissue.  It has been a couple of days
 since I laid of for a few days and I can feel the differences in my
 muscles.  I started back again today.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Fri, February 8, 2013 6:12:58 PM

 *Subject:* Re: CSsharing my experience - OT

 OK I checked my email archive, I see you bought a 3 frequency zapper.
 Which frequencies were you using for 8 hours per day?

 -Alan

 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, thanks for sharing this.  Please let us know what you mean by
 zapper.  Bob Beck?  Hulda Clark?  Rife?  Other??

 -Alan


 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 About 7-8 weeks ago I decided to purchase a zapper and start zapping.  I
 used it on an average about 8 hours per day.  In less than a month I no
 longer needed thyroid medication and much of the body pain I manage was
 under better control.  I was more comfortable and happier.  About 2-3 weeks
 ago I started having arrhythmias and they got progressively more frequent
 and more serious.  This week I had one bout that went on for over 2 hours
 and which left me exhausted.  Clearly something was wrong.  I spoke with my
 practitioner who suggested that I not zap for a few days and that I up my B
 vitamin and mineral intake.  I did this and the arrhythmias disappeared.  I
 even zapped today and did not have any problems.  When we discussed this my
 practitioner offered the possibility that when we zap we are killing
 critters and dumping a lot of trash that is wound up in our connective
 tissue into our system for excretion.  This is a stress on the body and
 uses B vitamins and minerals.  I did not know to adjust for this event and
 ended up putting myself through some very nasty experiences.

 I offer this so those of you who do similar things consider the stress
 on the body that getting healthy can cause and that you might want to up
 your supplementation to help support a healthy state.  If I can help anyone
 avoid what I went through it will be a Blessing.
 PT



 --
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 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

Here is some interesting research comparing juicers (no info on blenders):


http://www.hacres.com/pdf/documents/other-juice-extractor-comparison-2007.pdf

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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

Interesting, so far no evidence?

I did some googling and found LOTS of claims.  I did find a mention of
evidence, so far can't find the source (see below).  BTW the juice press
looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13
4 ton press.

http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/

*Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the
Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the
highest levels of vitamins and minerals.*
* *

*It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher
content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressing results
in a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30% more*), even
if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. *
* *

*Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the
most nutritious juice.*
* *

*Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ *
* *

**Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots*
* *

   - * Champion Juicer   1458 mg*
   - * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg*


-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

I did another web search, found the following.  It also does not specify
the source of the info but it sounds like a report created by Norwalk
Juicers:

http://www.remedyspot.com/showthread.php/1209969-best-juicer-%28long-reply%29

*The Report, a comparison of the nutritional content of juice made
from 5 pounds of identical carrots, parsley, and celery using a centrifugal
juicer (like the Jack La Lanne), a macerating juicer (Champion is the
best-known model), and the Norwalk, shows that pressing releases more juice
and
significantly more nutrients. In the carrot sample, juice from the
centrifugal
juicer contained 501 mg calcium, while the macerating juicer's juice
contained
1458 mg calcium, and the Norwalk's juice contained 2708 mg calcium.
For information about Norwalk juicers see geocities.com, nwjcal.com, or
the manufacturer's website, norwalkjuicers.com. For the Norwalk Juicer
Community, an online forum not affiliated with the manufacturer, see
norwalkjuicer.com. New Norwalk juicers cost around $2,000, and reconditioned
models sell
for around $1200, more or less, as available. Reconditioned Norwalks are
always
in demand, so they sell quickly.*

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting, so far no evidence?

 I did some googling and found LOTS of claims.  I did find a mention of
 evidence, so far can't find the source (see below).  BTW the juice press
 looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13
 4 ton press.

 http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/

 *Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the
 Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the
 highest levels of vitamins and minerals.*
 * *

 *It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher
 content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressingresults in 
 a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30%
 more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. *
 * *

 *Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the
 most nutritious juice.*
 * *

 *Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ *
 * *

 **Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots*
 * *

- * Champion Juicer   1458 mg*
- * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg*


 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

An interesting point, altho many juicing advocates say the fast absorption
of juice (only) can be an advantage when your goal is healing serious
issues.
-Alan

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:25 AM, PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 It would seem a good argument for adding some of the pulp back into the
 juice... along with slowing down the absorption of the sugars in the
 fruits/vegetables.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thu, January 10, 2013 8:14:28 AM

 *Subject:* Re: CSblending versus juicing

 Interesting, so far no evidence?

 I did some googling and found LOTS of claims.  I did find a mention of
 evidence, so far can't find the source (see below).  BTW the juice press
 looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13
 4 ton press.

 http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/

 *Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the
 Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the
 highest levels of vitamins and minerals.*
 * *

 *It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher
 content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressingresults in 
 a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30%
 more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. *
 * *

 *Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the
 most nutritious juice.*
 * *

 *Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ *
 * *

 **Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots*
 * *

- * Champion Juicer   1458 mg*
- * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg*


 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

I was able to track down more info on Mr. Bailey's research.  The chart on
the page below is VERY impressive, however given that Norwalk has a vested
interest we must be skeptical:

http://www.norwalkjuicers.com/nutrition




On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Interesting, so far no evidence?

 I did some googling and found LOTS of claims.  I did find a mention of
 evidence, so far can't find the source (see below).  BTW the juice press
 looks interesting, I'm thinking of building one using a Harbor Freight $13
 4 ton press.

 http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/

 *Jerome Bailey (a US chemist) found that using a combination of the
 Champion Juicer with a juice press the last 10% of the juice contained the
 highest levels of vitamins and minerals.*
 * *

 *It seems that the last ten percent of juice comes out with a far higher
 content than the first ten percent. Efficient pulping and pressingresults in 
 a higher percentage of nutrients being extracted (up to 30%
 more*), even if the quantity of juice extracted remains the same. *
 * *

 *Using a juice press with an electric juicer makes perfect sense for the
 most nutritious juice.*
 * *

 *Buy One Today!! http://www.thejuicepress.co.uk/ourshop/ *
 * *

 **Calcium data from 2.5 kg carrots*
 * *

- * Champion Juicer   1458 mg*
- * Champion Juicer + Press 2708 mg*


 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

OK, so you don't like the word extracted in this context.  The blending
process clearly destroys cell walls and separates a certain amount of the
juice from the fiber.  Depending on the type of blender, the type of fruit
or vegetable, and the speed/time of blending, I imagine the percentage of
separation could vary considerably.  I wonder how it compares to juicing?

Once consumed I would imagine your body would be able to absorb a certain
amount of the liquid fairly quickly, much like pure juice is absorbed, then
at some point the fiber would slow down absorption.


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,
 The mechanics of blending don't 'extract' anything. It's all in there,
 bladed to liquid and then swallowed.

 Be well,
 Léna

 On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

 I also like to do both.

 BTW for blending I'm really referring to good blenders like Vitamix and
 Blendtec, which I'm thinking should be able to extract as much juice as a
 juicer, methinks

 -Alan

 On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I do one of each every day :).


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 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)





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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

I do green smoothies that I find quite palatable but others might not.

Spinach is a perfect green to start with, very nutritious and very mild
tasting.  Later try the kales, parsley and collard greens.

When starting, use as much fruit as you need to much it drinkable.  Here is
what I typically use in my Blendtec blender:

-  10oz water
-  quarter pound of spinach (this is quite a bit!)
-  blend on 4 until greens pretty well liquified
-  add one cup frozen berries
-  add a banana or mangoes or apple or other sweetening fruit
-  add supplements (fish oil, lecithin, any powdered vitamins/minerals)
-  can also add stevia for more sweetness as needed
-  blend and drink -- I have some HUGE thick straws which are perfect which
I found on the web

-Alan

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great thread, folks! Hadn't heard of the Nutribullet. My Magic Bullet
 gets a workout for my morning smoothie using various powders from the
 health-food store, but my second set of blades is nearing the wear-out
 stage and it might be approaching time to retire it altogether.

 What sort of veggie/fruit smoothie blends do you use, and do any of them
 rise to the level where you might call the results delicious? I ask
 since even adding a few greens to my juicing tends to yield a very
 strong and unpleasant tasting brew, in my limited experience...

 Be well!

 Mike D.



-- 
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

(ack, change to much is drinkable to to make it drinkable...)

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do green smoothies that I find quite palatable but others might not.

 Spinach is a perfect green to start with, very nutritious and very mild
 tasting.  Later try the kales, parsley and collard greens.

 When starting, use as much fruit as you need *to make it drinkable*.
 Here is what I typically use in my Blendtec blender:

 -  10oz water
 -  quarter pound of spinach (this is quite a bit!)
 -  blend on 4 until greens pretty well liquified
 -  add one cup frozen berries
 -  add a banana or mangoes or apple or other sweetening fruit
 -  add supplements (fish oil, lecithin, any powdered vitamins/minerals)
 -  can also add stevia for more sweetness as needed
 -  blend and drink -- I have some HUGE thick straws which are perfect
 which I found on the web

 -Alan


 On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great thread, folks! Hadn't heard of the Nutribullet. My Magic Bullet
 gets a workout for my morning smoothie using various powders from the
 health-food store, but my second set of blades is nearing the wear-out
 stage and it might be approaching time to retire it altogether.

 What sort of veggie/fruit smoothie blends do you use, and do any of them
 rise to the level where you might call the results delicious? I ask
 since even adding a few greens to my juicing tends to yield a very
 strong and unpleasant tasting brew, in my limited experience...

 Be well!

 Mike D.



 --
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 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSblending versus juicing

[Alan Jones]

I also like to do both.

BTW for blending I'm really referring to good blenders like Vitamix and
Blendtec, which I'm thinking should be able to extract as much juice as a
juicer, methinks

-Alan

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Paul pste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I do one of each every day :).


-- 
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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSVitamin C Powder

[Alan Jones]

These guys are a trusted source:

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/powder.shtml

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Paul Steel pste...@yahoo.com wrote:

 hey All

 I am looking for a good Vit C powder. I do have some Lipsomal C...But
 looking for some powder as well.

 Would like to buy the BEST powder there is :)

 Thanks All and Happy Holidays!

 Paul Steel
 h 508.520.6905
 c 508.922.0519
 The harder you work the luckier you get!





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Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)

[Alan Jones]

Eduardo, please remove yourself from the list.  You are flooding my
box with too many emails!

Make It A Great 2012!

On 12/14/12, Eduardo Rodriguez itseddierodrig...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please remove me from your list. I don't have time to read all the emails
 you are flooding my box with...too many daily emails! Thank you

 Make It A Great 2012
 Eduardo Rodriguez


 On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:32 PM, finplan65 finpla...@yahoo.com wrote:


 How/where does one obtain this magnetic pulser? Thank You

 --- On Thu, 12/13/12, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com
 Subject: Re: CSHelp Needed for Mono (Epstein-Barr Virus)
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Thursday, December 13, 2012, 1:15 PM

 Since mono sets up in the lymph system, which is largely unreachable by
 colloidal silver, I would use a magnetic pulser, which is made solely to
 use for such aliments.

 Marshall

 On 12/13/2012 11:21 AM, Gene Wolfe wrote:
  I have two granddaughters and one step grandson with chronic mono. We
  have recommended CS as a cure for this, but both daughters are afraid of
  turning blue.
 
  Can someone give me some recommendations for a way to cure chronic mono,
  and ways to reassure them about turning blue?
 
  Thanks,
  Gene Wolfe
  Dallas, TX
 
 
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Re: CSanxiety and stress

[Alan Jones]

Mike, thanks for the suggestions on EFT.  I found garythink.com and am
using the videos to learn it.

If you (or others) can suggest any other resources I would appreciate it.

-Alan


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 5:29 PM, M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alan,

 Along with the many other good suggestions, I would suggest Emotional
 Freedom Technique (EFT).

 I had a relative who was clearly suffering from post-traumatic stress
 after a cardiac close call and a series of invasive medical procedures.
 Combined with a fearsome financial situation as a result of their
 temporary disability, they were so bound up in fear and anxiety that
 they were almost non-functional, suffering frequent extreme anxiety
 attacks and persistent insomnia.

 It took some tough love (read: at least one shouting match!) to get
 them to confront what they were doing to themselves and to instill the
 inkling that some positive response was even possible.

 I then was able to introduce EFT and guided them through frequent
 sessions for a week or more, gradually confronting each element of the
 trauma from the hospital experiences, plus their fears about job, money,
 mortality, and whatever else expressed itself or acted as a trigger.

 They learned to do the procedure themselves, and I often received
 reports in the morning of self-administered sessions that helped them
 get back to sleep the night before.

 In a little over a month, they were emotionally recovered and in fact
 considerably stronger than they were before events overtook them. Their
 physical situation improved substantially, permitting them to return to
 work within 6 months, and there is no doubt in my mind that that would
 not have been possible under the extreme stress to which they were
 subjected by the emotional issues.

 Your situation is, thankfully, more tame than that, but no less
 important to you than this was for us. As a way to dissipate your fears
 and anxiety so as to allow a positive outlook to express itself, EFT
 will serve you well, and is technically very simple, to boot.

 Peace,

 Mike D.


 On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 07:43 -0600, Alan Jones wrote:
  My world has been turned upside down.  After nearly 30 years at the
  same company, where I always got stellar performance reviews and
  incredible raises, bonuses and stock options, all of a sudden, without
  warning, I am told I make too much money and my employment is in
  immediate jeopardy (I'm a software engineer).
 
  If this wasn't bad enough, my body is responding with extreme stress
  and anxiety, which are severely affecting my ability to function in my
  job, let alone life.
 
  My wife has some anxiety pills which I have been taking, which help a
  bit.  I hate drugs, however, and am looking for other options.  I
  would think that some effective hypnosis program would be useful to
  get this under control, but so far haven't found anything that looks
  effective.
 
  Any help is appreciated...
 
  --
  Alan Jones
 
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  nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
  respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US
  Constitution)


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Re: CSanxiety and stress

[Alan Jones]

Thanks for all of the great ideas. I am a very spiritual person, I believe
things like this happen for a reason, and I KNOW things will be OK ...
eventually.  It's just getting thru this short term stress

I wish I could retire, I'm only 51 and my savings are not spectacular.

-Alan


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 I agree with PT! That has been such a fundamental thing in my lifethat i
 often forget to even recommend it. L

 On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:24 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 I would learn to meditate.  It is the best de-stressor there is.
 Good luck.
 PT

 --
 *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Fri, November 9, 2012 8:43:37 AM
 *Subject:* CSanxiety and stress

 My world has been turned upside down.  After nearly 30 years at the same
 company, where I always got stellar performance reviews and incredible
 raises, bonuses and stock options, all of a sudden, without warning, I am
 told I make too much money and my employment is in immediate jeopardy (I'm
 a software engineer).

 If this wasn't bad enough, my body is responding with extreme stress and
 anxiety, which are severely affecting my ability to function in my job, let
 alone life.

 My wife has some anxiety pills which I have been taking, which help a
 bit.  I hate drugs, however, and am looking for other options.  I would
 think that some effective hypnosis program would be useful to get this
 under control, but so far haven't found anything that looks effective.

 Any help is appreciated...

 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)





-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSanxiety and stress

[Alan Jones]

Thanks again for all of the suggestions.  Took a couple GABA pills today,
they seem to help.

-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSanxiety and stress

[Alan Jones]

O boy, please don't go down this road  ;-)


On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.netwrote:

 We grew up thinking US Citizenship was a valuable product of centuries of
 enlightenment, freedom and the work and dedication of our families. Now we
 find we are asked to choose between the republicans who want to sell us and
 the democrats who want to give us away.

 -Original Message-
 From: slickpic...@cox.net [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 1:21 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Cc: Neville Munn
 Subject: RE: CSanxiety and stress

 Capitalism is self destructing, what you are experiencing is but nothing
 once you open your eyes to what's coming around the bend, THEN you'll have
 good reason to be anxious!

 What a load of crap. Greece, anyone?

  Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 =

 This isn't an idea, but it may assist in opening your eyes now your little
 security bubble is bursting.  The favourite catch phrase today is -
 'restructuring', and I guess you are going to be restructured out of a job,
 you are dispensable and an inconvenience to the profit margin of your
 employer...Join the club, it's increasing in membership all the time.
 Everything is just fine and dandy in this Capitalist world - until
 something
 affects YOU!  Capitalism is self destructing, what you are experiencing is
 but nothing once you open your eyes to what's coming around the bend, THEN
 you'll have good reason to be anxious!
 Avoid pills at all cost, it's a downhill ride!  My life partner is on that
 band wagon, seemingly never going to be able to get off, anxiety is but one
 issue!  What you are now experiencing, or about to experience, is what many
 have been experiencing for quite a few years now, and it affects those
 around you as well, I suggest you come to terms with what the future holds
 and rapidly learn to accept and deal with it.
 If you say you are spiritual, then you'd better start dispensing with the
 material and get the priorities in order.
 Reality check time my friend...Life is a bitch - and then you die!  So when
 the going gets tuff, the tuff get going!   How tuff are you?
 N.

 Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:36:50 -0600
 Subject: Re: CSanxiety and stress
 From: alanmjo...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Thanks for all of the great ideas. I am a very spiritual person, I believe
 things like this happen for a reason, and I KNOW things will be OK ...
 eventually.  It's just getting thru this short term stress

 I wish I could retire, I'm only 51 and my savings are not spectacular.


 -Alan


 On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 I agree with PT! That has been such a fundamental thing in my lifethat i
 often forget to even recommend it. L

 On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:24 AM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 I would learn to meditate.  It is the best de-stressor there is.

 Good luck.
 PT


 From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 Sent: Fri, November 9, 2012 8:43:37 AM
 Subject: CSanxiety and stress

 My world has been turned upside down.  After nearly 30 years at the same
 company, where I always got stellar performance reviews and incredible
 raises, bonuses and stock options, all of a sudden, without warning, I am
 told I make too much money and my employment is in immediate jeopardy (I'm
 a
 software engineer).


 If this wasn't bad enough, my body is responding with extreme stress and
 anxiety, which are severely affecting my ability to function in my job, let
 alone life.

 My wife has some anxiety pills which I have been taking, which help a bit.
 I hate drugs, however, and am looking for other options.  I would think
 that
 some effective hypnosis program would be useful to get this under control,
 but so far haven't found anything that looks effective.


 Any help is appreciated...
 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




 --
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 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)





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Re: CSStoring water

[Alan Jones]

Consider buying a Berkey water filter, I have one and love it.  If/when
Sandy comes knocking, assuming you have some warning, you could fill a
bathtub with water and filter it thru the Berkey as needed.

They also sell very cheap bladders that fit in the bathtub to hold water
(check Amazon).  This also assumes you have at least a little warning.

-Alan


On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Kirsteen Wright 
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having looked at the havoc caused by Sandy, I was thinking it would be a
 good idea to store some drinking water. The sites I've read all say that,
 if you store tap water, it should be replaced every 6 months. I was
 wondering if I added some CS to it, would it last longer, if so, roughly
 when should it be replaced?  Or would I be better adding some food grade
 hydrogen peroxide? Any ideas

 cheers
 Kirsteen




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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSProstatitis

[Alan Jones]

Brooks, thanks again for sharing your latest research.

Will any Turmeric do?  There are several varieties available out there.

-Alan

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote:

   ... I will relate a
 comment on Specific and
 Non-Specific general inflammation.  It has proven to our satisfaction,
 that a  high percentage of systemic and
 localized inflammatory response to various insults.is both poorly
 recognized and even more poorly addressed
 for  the nature/effects upon vibrant human health.  We developed,
 about 2 years ago, a very simple,
 non-toxic, but quite effective, support protocol for these general
 inflammations of indeterminate SPECIFIC cause).  Our protocol, in
 these experimental addresses, included daily quantities : 2000 mg of
 Bromelain enzyme, 1000 mg of Boswellia  extract capsules,  2000 mg
 Turmeric, and 20,00- units (approximately 33 mg)
 of Serrapeptase enzyme.  This volume was divided into 2 separate
 doses...one before noon and the other
 just before bedtime.  Measurable, additional benefit resulted from
 adding  1000 mg CMO (Cetyl Myristoleate)-
 although its addition was not as critical as was each of the other
 components.
Our results for both acute and long-term inflammation, using
 this simple address, exceededby
 almost one order of magnitudethe positive results obtained from
 among any/all of the other candidate
 protocols evaluated.  I can only say...in layman's termsour
 results were SENSATIONAL...sometimes
 yielding major improvement onset within 5 days (this in view of the
 fact that some of these chronic
 presentations were of  5 years standing.).
 Some among the list membership might want to consider such an
 approach in some of their
 experimental medical research endeavors.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

 p.s.  If you inquire from Beyond-a-century, be sure to type
 Phytosterol Complex in the search window for their
 products (they have a rather large inventory and many products are
 close in name.)
   Do be sure to utilize a mixture of all of the substances every
 time a dose is given.  Several (especially Boswellia and Bromelain) of
 these substances yield a synergistic reaction yielding a quite
 powerful multiplication of effect.



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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSCS and Cancer?

[Alan Jones]

Check out cancertutor.org, it has all kinds of alternative cancer
therapies, including some which use CS.

-Alan

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM, goofeygalpal goofeygal...@comcast.netwrote:

 **
 My cat Reilly has been diagnosed with cancer and he's under the care of a
 holistic, specifically TCM veterinarian and is on a couple traditional
 chinese herbal rx's specific for cancer, i also give him fat soluable
 curcumin (CuraMed) and a host of other things, namely Livon Labs lypo C a
 packet a day (i make my own DIY encapsulated C for my husband and me) and
 he is also getting C injected into the tumor site by his vet (his tumor is
 in his frontal forehead/sinuses) and the injectible C has had a
 demonstrable effect on the tumor!! He gets it twice weekly but now that
 it's been a month he goes in just once weekly...i'm hoping with the once
 weekly he doesn't regress.

 I'm also starting him today on IP-6 and Essiac specifically formulated for
 pets (i don't want to go overboard w/supps as he is a CAT after all) and he
 is already taking AHCC and medicinal mushrooms with DMG and milk thistle,
 he's never been vaccinated and he's been raised on a raw food diet (and
 still got cancer because he was born with a wonky immune system). BTW he
 doesn't act like he has cancer at all, the only clue i had was the lump
 growing above his nose and forehead and the nasal sounds he had been making
 for the past year although no one would have guessed it was cancer until
 the lump appeared :( Too bad because i could have started treatment a long
 time ago, the cat has energy, eats well, and doesn't exhibit any other
 symptoms.

 Well to get to the point after all this research, on curezone people were
 bringing up CS, i have a generator and take CS and have given it to him in
 the past but i NEVER have seen it indicated as a cancer fighter! He has
 been on 6 wks antibiotics because of possible infection as infection in
 that area/sinuses is particularly tenaceous although he may not have one at
 all now, he takes his last antibiotic tomorrow, i have him on probiotics
 also but am wondering if i should give him daily CS IF IT INDEED IS an
 important arsenal in cancer fighting? I will have him on daily probiotics
 as that is one thing i worry about with CS is it kills good gut bacteria.
 His vet did say if he survives this cancer he may always have problems with
 infections in that area.

 Thanks for any help!

 Susie




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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS Request from Nenah - 10 Aug

[Alan Jones]

Brooks posted on CS and Parvo many years ago -- here's one copy of his
comments:

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/froghollerfilas/VaccParvoBradley.html


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:

 Nenah - have you any idea how EIS would work for Parvo - can the EIS get
 to do it's job with the way this bacterium is created ?It appears to be
 very sneeky 
 Regards
 Sandee

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Re: CS Lisa, this is Brooks Mix

[Alan Jones]

Thanks for this.  Since the DMSO will carry the glycerin into the body (or
are the molecules too big?), I would imagine one should get the purest
glycerin possible?

I've never bought glycerin before, any suggested brands?

-Alan

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:15 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:

 **
  In a message dated 8/6/2012 2:59:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 blacksa...@comcast.net writes:

 What is the Brooks Bradley Mix and what is it used for? I love everything
 that he's offered us :o) but seem to have missed this one... Lisa

  *76% CS {EIS}--10% DMSO--15% glycerin. Put the DMSO in last--The mixture
 will get warm but that's OK.. shake it a bit before each use.. It is great
 for many, many skin conditions, shingles, psoriasis, athletes foot,  on 
 on...Lois
 *


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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSShingles

[Alan Jones]

Maybe you're not taking enough Lysine?  How much are you taking?

BTW I've been taking about 6 grams a day, along with vit C (Pauling
Therapy, not for Herpes, altho I do occasionally get cold sores when
stressed).

-Alan

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Thanks Dorothy,
 I've been taking L-lysine since the beginning, but it doesn't seem to be
 doing anything at this point.  I do believe it was beneficial in the
 beginning.  The ice packs did more good than anything,


-- 
Alan Jones

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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSShingles

[Alan Jones]

The Pauling Therapy basically indicates that you should take as much as you
can, short of bowel issues (can be up to 15 grams).  I've been taking about
3-5 grams of sodium ascorbate a day, even this much gets me a little
gassy.  I can't take nearly that much ascorbic acid without getting gas.

Here is a nice summary of the therapy:

http://practicingmedicinewithoutalicense.com/protocol/excerpt_chp7.pdf

-Alan

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Perhaps you are right.  I've  been taking 500mg twice a day which is s3
 times what my Dr. recommended.  Will begin gradually increasing the dose
 and see what happens.  How much Vit C do you take?

 zoe

   --
 *From:* Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, 6 August 2012, 9:37
 *Subject:* Re: CSShingles

 Maybe you're not taking enough Lysine?  How much are you taking?

 BTW I've been taking about 6 grams a day, along with vit C (Pauling
 Therapy, not for Herpes, altho I do occasionally get cold sores when
 stressed).

 -Alan

 --
Alan Jones

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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

CSCS and MSM

[Alan Jones]

The cancer tutor web site discusses using CS with MSM.  I'm curious if
anyone has any experience with this?

 http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer03/MSM_CS.html

-- 
Alan Jones

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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSDocuments

[Alan Jones]

That's a great question.  Perhaps you could also ask this expert to
produce data that shows it's dangerous.  We'd all like to see that.  ;-)


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 I've used my Silver Puppy-generated CS/EIS for several years now to great
 benefit and, of course, share that info with others who could benefit also.
 One Lymie friend has recently been warned against using CS by a person
 studying to get her degree in nutritional counseling, saying that CS is
 dangerous. She's asked me for any link or document she can give this woman.
 I've given the standard answer about bad equipment and bad water, about big
 pharma pushing the media to trot out the Smurf guy to scare the 'sheep' to
 deter them from using something good that won't ever bring big profits (and
 is gaining popularity by those who shun the black-box pharma drugs.)
 We need to educate this would-be 'counselor'! Has anyone got a pdf or link
 that could help?
 Thanks, and be well,
 Léna



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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSArthritis

[Alan Jones]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Willard%27s+Water


On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:36 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I was give a bottle of Willard's Water last year and darned if I can
 remember what it is supposed to do.
 Please enlighten me someone?
 Thanks.
 Tara

 On 5/29/12, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  Willard Water will also enhance the effects of any medications being
 taken
  so it is a good idea to watch responses and adjust accordingly.
 
  PT
 
 
 
  From: phoenix23002 tds.net [mailto:phoenix23...@tds.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:17 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSArthritis
 
 
 
  Hi, Asif.  I have found wonderful pain relief with DMSO.  I only use this
  particular DMSO product because I believe it to be pure.  (I have no
  affiliation with the company.. I am just a customer.)   Do dilute this
  70/30% mixture by about 30% distilled water or even 50% when first
 starting
  off.   http://dmso.bz/pages/1/index.htm
 
 
 
   DMSO is a 'carrier' and will penetrate into tissues very deeply but.. it
  takes everything it touches with it... so make sure your skin and hands
 are
  clean (no soap residue or lotion, moisterizers, etc)  When you first use
 it
  (just dab it on.. don't rub it in), there may be some initial redness and
  itchiness but that won't last long.  With each usage, the reaction
 lessens
  and finally won't happen at all.  It is marvelous stuff.
 
 
 
  The other thing that can help is hyaluronic acid, a substance that the
 body
  produces and uses to lubricate joints, etc.  I use the vitacost brand
 (read
  the reviews) and start off with 4 - 6 per day, tapering down to a
  maintenance dose of 2 per day as you experience pain relief.
 
 
 
  Also Willard's Water.. available from
 http://www.willardswater.com/home.php
  (again, I am just a customer and I trust this site.)  It seems to enhance
  the effect of whatever supplements you are taking, is a great antioxidant
  and seems to alleviate some arthritic pain.
 
 
 
  There are a few more things, but yes... diet is important.  Try to eat
  fresh, wholesome foods, drink plenty of clean water, get out in the fresh
  air and moderate exercise.  Limit your exposure to toxins (fumes,
  chemicals,
  flourides, chlorine etc).
 
  I also use shark cartilage (a great anti-inflammatory) from time to time,
  sleep on an earthing/grounding sheet and use castor oil packs when I
 have a
  flare up.I take all these things myself in lieu of otc or rx pain
  relievers and they are relatively inexpensive and easy to take/use with
  little side effects.
 
 
 
  If you need any more info.. just give me a holler.. glad to help.   Lola
 
  On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Asif Nathekar 
 asifnathe...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi silver list,
  I wonder if you you guys have any good treatments for arthritis in the
  joints. Knees and fingers especially.
  The person has been taking around 10ml of 15ppm silver once a day and
  reports its helps.
  The person is being put on increased painkillers for this condition which
  has its own side effects .
  So I seek the wisdom of the usually very helpful people here.
  Thank you.
  Peace to all.
  Asif.
 
 
 
 
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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSBeck zapper

[Alan Jones]

I'm curious if anyone was able to identify any of these improved designs
mentioned by Brooks?

-Alan

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.comwrote:

 The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has been
 in our researches), however,
 * there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;
  more powerful in effect than is the original device developed by Robert*.
  A brief survey of the Internet using zapper  as the key word, will
 illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me personally
 and I will attempt to offer
 some useful guidance in your search.
 Sincerely,
Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.

 --
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSixquick question

[Alan Jones]

ixquick is a web page -- what are you installing?

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM, vicki hood mutt...@isp.com wrote:

 **
 Tried to install.  Clicked English and all that would ever come up was
 English UK which is 2 separate choices. There is English and then English
 UK.   Tried from the beginning several times.  No choice but dial up and
 did choose https.  I am really at a loss for computer knowledge.  Self
 taught straight from the start  button.


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Re: CSSilver PH

[Alan Jones]

Dr. Shallenberger actually wrote back to me and confirmed the web page is
erroneous, altho it's not fixed yet...

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I emailed the web site and have not heard back; I don't really expect to.

 But Dr. Shallenberger's book Bursting with Energy is on Amazon, and
 Amazon allows a preview of the book.

 The chapter on water indicates your should drink a quarter to a half ounce
 of water for each pound of body weight.  (eg. a 200lb person would consume
 50-100 ounces per day)

 This sounds much more reasonable than 3-6 gallons per day!

 -Alan


 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 Don't know but that amount seems awfully high. An american quart is about
 a litre so 12 litres
 would be way too much in my book . Round about 2 litres on average would
 be a good
 ballpark. Errm maybe it should be 2 quarts , not 12 ??

 Why not ask them ?

 Tony

 On 17 May 2012 at 6:21, Alan Jones wrote about :
 Subject : Re: CSSilver  PH

  Thanks Tony.  I found the following web site of his.  This sounds insane
  to me -- how is this even possible?  Could it be a typo??
 
  http://www.burstingwithenergy.net/water.php
 
  · Every adult should drink at least 12 quarts per day of purified water.
  On hot days or when exercising, twice that amount may be needed.


 --
 Alan Jones

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 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSSilver PH

[Alan Jones]

I emailed the web site and have not heard back; I don't really expect to.

But Dr. Shallenberger's book Bursting with Energy is on Amazon, and
Amazon allows a preview of the book.

The chapter on water indicates your should drink a quarter to a half ounce
of water for each pound of body weight.  (eg. a 200lb person would consume
50-100 ounces per day)

This sounds much more reasonable than 3-6 gallons per day!

-Alan


On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 Don't know but that amount seems awfully high. An american quart is about
 a litre so 12 litres
 would be way too much in my book . Round about 2 litres on average would
 be a good
 ballpark. Errm maybe it should be 2 quarts , not 12 ??

 Why not ask them ?

 Tony

 On 17 May 2012 at 6:21, Alan Jones wrote about :
 Subject : Re: CSSilver  PH

  Thanks Tony.  I found the following web site of his.  This sounds insane
  to me -- how is this even possible?  Could it be a typo??
 
  http://www.burstingwithenergy.net/water.php
 
  · Every adult should drink at least 12 quarts per day of purified water.
  On hot days or when exercising, twice that amount may be needed.


-- 
Alan Jones

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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CSQuick help needed please!

[Alan Jones]

Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 **
 It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver.  The
 colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so healing
 can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe supplies
 nutrients so tissue can survive even without any blood for hours or days.

 Marshall

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Re: CSSilver PH

[Alan Jones]

do you have any evidence to support this?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yikes!
  on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
 Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
 The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
 no matter WHAT they say on the package.
 I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
 or drug store
 if it's me.
 T


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Re: CSSilver PH

[Alan Jones]

I also think Bob's Red Mill brand propagates the rumor by stating
aluminum free! on it's label, implying not-so-subtly that the other
products DO have aluminum.

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Hi Marshall,
 I think this whole myth began when some baking POWDERS had alumina sulfate.

 Be well,
 Léna

 On May 21, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Marshall wrote:

  Bicarbonate of soda is a chemical, and a very cheap one at that.  It is
 NaHCO3.  If it contains anything else, it is mislabeled and subject to
 prosecution  by the FDA.  I don't know where this rumor came from that it
 would contain anything else, certainly not alumina sulfate which would be
 an expensive ingredient that would ruin the product.  The test for aluminum
 sulfate is to mix it with sodium hydroxide, sodium carbonate, or sodium
 bi-carbonate.  If aluminum sulfate is there it forms a white precipitate
 and produces CO2.  So, if it is there, all you have to do it mix it with
 water, and it will foam producing carbon dioxide, and a white precipitate
 forms.  I have mixed  AH with water many times and no CO2 or precipitate
 is formed, thus there is no aluminum sulfate in there.


 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum

 Marshall

 On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

 do you have any evidence to support this?

 -Alan

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yikes!
  on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
 Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
 The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
 no matter WHAT they say on the package.
 I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
 or drug store
 if it's me.
 T


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Re: CSSilver PH

[Alan Jones]

you are conflating 2 different and distinct ideas (aluminum in BS and
supporting health food stores)

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry guys,
 but my $$$ will still support the health food stores I have come ot
 know and trust.
 Supermarkets they are not and cetainly not big pharms either.
 T

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Re: CSSilver PH

[Alan Jones]

Thanks Tony.  I found the following web site of his.  This sounds insane to
me -- how is this even possible?  Could it be a typo??

http://www.burstingwithenergy.net/water.php

· Every adult should drink at least 12 quarts per day of purified water. On
hot days or when exercising, twice that amount may be needed.



On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 On 16 May 2012 at 14:04, Alan Jones wrote about :
 Subject : Re: CSSilver  PH

  Do you have any more info on this?  I Googled briefly and found nothing.
  I'm curious why this is better than just baking soda.
 
  -Alan
 

 Sorry, Spelled the mans name incorrectly  See :

 http://www.truthaboutshallenberger.com/curriculum-vitae.html

 Tony


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Re: CSSilver PH

[Alan Jones]

Do you have any more info on this?  I Googled briefly and found nothing.
I'm curious why this is better than just baking soda.

-Alan

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 **

  An excellent alkalyser , better than plain baking soda, that you can
 make at home is Dr
   Dr Shallenbergers Alkalysing Formula:
   1 part sodium citrate, 2 parts potassium bicarbonate and 7 parts sodium
 bicarbonate.
   Each by weigh and just mix the powders together and store in a dry
 container.
   1 teaspoon in water twice a day should do it. Take it until well.

Tony Moody

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Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?

[Alan Jones]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Dr.+Best+Serrepeptase


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

 **

 Can you share where you get your serrapeptase from? I need to buy more and
 the place I got it from before no longer carries it (and it was more
 expensive).

 ** **

 TIA

 ** **

 Lisa

 ** **
  --

 *From:* craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 9:47 AM
 *To:* **silver-list@eskimo.com
 **
 *Subject:* Re: CSCardiac/arterial benefits?
 

  ** **

 I've been taking serrepeptase for years...  but one should start small and
 work up.  I buy Dr. Best Serrepeptase at $12+  a bottle.

 connie


 
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Re: CSarthritis

[Alan Jones]

Interesting.  Fresh?  How much?

-Alan

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com wrote:

 **
 I take lemon juice in my water all day. That has reduced arthritis pain
 by 80%.
 Gayla

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 7:43 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSarthritis

  Try DMSO, its a horse liniment found at a tax store, where they sell
 saddle's   cowboy stuff. I use it on myself, it works ! I am 71 so far no
 side effect.

 Tel Tofflemire
 Herbalist
   --
 *From:* sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 3:04 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSarthritis

 Kathy Tankersley wrote:
  I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the
 post, what is anyone using for arthritis?  Seems like I hurt all over my
 whole body.I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine
 chondroitin msm, and have for years.  But I'm ready to try something else,
 any suggestions?  Thanks
  Kathy
 Kathy,
   This is my experience.I was getting awful knobby hands, both
 Heberden's Nodes and Bouchard's Nodes, as well as very  painful knees and
 hips. I have some arthritis in my spine too, etc. My fingers now look
 almost normal. Joints are a bit large, and the twisting in my index fingers
 is still present, but basically the knobs and protrusions in the finger
 joints are pretty much gone. My knees and hips are no longer painful,
 unless I eat wheat/gluten. FWIW, at my worst a few years ago, I couldn't
 walk without 2 canes and a ton of pain. My knees not only do not hurt, but
 they don't even crackle and pop going up and down stairs.
   I think what has produced my improvement is following the dietary
 recommendations of Ray Peat. I no longer consume any vegetable/seed oils
 (except for eating out once or twice a month). I don't use any commercial
 mayonnaise or salad dressings anymore either. I consume gelatin and
 collagen daily, about 30 grams a day on average. I drink lots of milk, eat
 lots of cheese.drink fruit juices and have fruit, and use sugar all
 over the place. There is more to my story, of course, but this covers the
 basics, LOL.
 sol


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Re: CSarthritis

[Alan Jones]

MSM seems to help me when I get occasional flareups.  How much do you
take?  I mix a powdered form in water and takes several grams a day when I
take it.

Some here will recommend Brooks' CMO treatment, I tried it and it did not
help me at all.

-Alan

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Kathy Tankersley
babychicks...@gmail.comwrote:

 **
 I know this has been discussed on this list, but I failed to save the
 post, what is anyone using for arthritis?  Seems like I hurt all over my
 whole body.I'm 73 years old, walking seems to help, I take glucosamine
 chondroitin msm, and have for years.  But I'm ready to try something else,
 any suggestions?  Thanks
 Kathy


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Re: CSSilvercillin

[Alan Jones]

I found it -- patent 7,135,195

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might check here =
 http://www.google.com/patents
 Smitty

 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:44 AM, David AuBuchon 
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:


 http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/new-colloidal-silver-for-lyme-disease/

 Is anyone able to find the patent for the product so I can verify what it
 is?  Vendors are claiming it is not ordinary EIS and I want see.

 Thanks,
 David





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Re: CSSilvercillin

[Alan Jones]

http://www.google.com/patents/US7135195


On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I found it -- patent 7,135,195


 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Smitty papad...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might check here =
 http://www.google.com/patents
 Smitty

 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:44 AM, David AuBuchon 
 aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:


 http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/wordpress/new-colloidal-silver-for-lyme-disease/

 Is anyone able to find the patent for the product so I can verify what
 it is?  Vendors are claiming it is not ordinary EIS and I want see.

 Thanks,
 David





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Re: CSLiposomal Vit. C - Brook's latest updated process

[Alan Jones]

Link for the DIY LET group:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DIY-LET/


On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:20 PM, David AuBuchon
aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote:

 FYI there is a DIY LET yahoo group all on this topic.

 David

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Re: CSBeck zapper

[Alan Jones]

They are sold on ebay for very reasonable prices.

-Alan

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.

 So please tell us more about zappers . . .

 thanks,

 Joyce

 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
  shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
  zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
  outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
  long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
  mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
  him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
  and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
  purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
  need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
  definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
  someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
  such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
  with some DMSO.
 
  Dan
 
  On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from
 positive
  27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up
 to
  100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
  I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to
 positive
  9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
  neglected to use it.
 
  I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
  could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
  beleive that it could work.
 
  Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used
 it,
  so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
  electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
  any testimonies...???
 
  thanks again.
 
  --
  From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
 The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
  been in our researches), however,
  there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
  powerful in effect than is the original
  device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
  zapper  as the key word, will illicit
  a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
  personally and I will attempt to offer
  some useful guidance in your search.
 Sincerely,
Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.
 
  On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar 
 asifnathe...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi group,
 
  Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
 
  As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
  effective
 
  Thanks
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: CSCS and dogs

[Alan Jones]

Electrically Isolated Silver, another name for Colloidal Silver

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 What is EIS/CS?

 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  EIS/CS

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Re: CSHello from new member!

[Alan Jones]

You might want to clarify that you sell this generator that you are
endorsing

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Jim Meissner yahoo jpmeiss...@yahoo.comwrote:

  Hi Paul,

 ** **

 You might consider this one. I’ve used CS made with it for 11 years now,
 as needed, for pneumonia, lyme and other tick-borne diseases, cuts,
 scrapes, sinus infections, etc with excellent results. 

 ** **

 http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator

 ** **

 Carol Monroe

 ** **


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

[Alan Jones]

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/magdir.asp

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:52 AM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Ode Coyote wrote:

  
 http://www.kjmagnetics.com/**categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmuhttp://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmu

 Save your self a pile of money.

 Ode

 Found some I'm interested in at that site. They say axially magnetized,
 and I hate to be so dumb, but what does that mean?
 The ones I'm looking at are discs, does it mean one flat side is north and
 the other south? And further, probably even dumber, they do not appear to
 have the poles marked so how would I know which is which?
 thanks,
 sol



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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #387

[Alan Jones]

Great link, thanks.  Anyone have ideas/suggestions on which ones to use?

Also, any books on how to use them?

-Alan

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:


  
 http://www.kjmagnetics.com/**categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmuhttp://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?PARTNER=tccgmu

 Save your self a pile of money.

 Ode



 At 11:40 AM 12/19/2011 -0800, you wrote:

 Kathy,

 I agree with Renee and of course Peter.  Those biomagscience magnets have
 helped me a lot specially my arthritic hands.  I used the biggest of the
 lot under (green) and top of my hand (red) and bec of its size it held
 together without tapes!  I moved the top around and the bottom one
 followed, but being careful not to let it go  near the edge of the palm as
 they would snap with your skin in-between them (golly gosh, the
 pain!!!@@#@#@).  The pain was gone in minutes.  Great magnets.

 Melly


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Re: CSThe Silvercell process?

[Alan Jones]

Would you mind sharing more details on this?  How small must the batch be?
 How pure must the water be?

-Alan

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:


 Anyway, I've made 40+ ppm CS with a Silverpuppy in the past. Its not that
 hard. Its just a matter of using very pure water and keeping the batch size
 small.  Trem has also said he's made 40+ with a Silvergen. Mike would
 dispute this of course.

 David

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Re: CSGetting Rid of Lipomas

[Alan Jones]

Interesting!  I wonder if this would work on my dog?  What concentration
DMSO do you use?

Alan

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.comwrote:

 I seem to be susceptible to lipomas, had a couple big ones removed when
 they became painful.  But since then I've discovered that I can fairly
 quickly shrink and ultimately (within a month or so) get rid of them
 entirely simply by rubbing DMSO into the spot a couple times a day.  It
 consistently works.  No longer have any lipomas - including the ones I had
 had since childhood.  Sara

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Re: CS Nebulizer Conclusion

[Alan Jones]

Interesting, how do you keep the rabbit's head close enough to the
nebulizer?

Alan

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Well, I've been nebulizing my pet rabbit for many years off and on with a
 mix of CS-MSM-DMSO, and he's still alive and still cruising at eleven and a
 half years old though he has had chronic upper respiratory infection for his
 entire life.
 Almost exactly one year ago, we increased the nebulizing from sporadic to
 twice a day, which allowed reduction of his bicillin injections from daily
 to one every 3 days, and also allowed a reduction in his daily baytril.
 Given how fragile bunnies are, and the compromises this particular rabbit
 has in his respiratory system, I can't see how he could still be alive, let
 alone thriving as he is, if nebulizing CS were at all harmful. I would
 certainly never hesitate to nebulize straight CS or my CS-MSM-DMSO mix
 myself if I needed it.
 sol

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Re: CS44 PPM

[Alan Jones]

I wonder if Frank has changed his mind about this?  I was scanning his web
site and he seems to be saying that ingesting ionic silver is useless.

*All ionic silver will turn into silver chloride once inside the body
because of the readily available supply of chloride ions in many different
forms.*

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html

Alan

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

 I'm baffled by the comments.  As I stated, Frank Key has stated clearly on
 the Silver List, he recognizes the efficacy of the EIS that most members
 make.  That's a matter of record; it's in the archives.I don't
 understand the need to attack him here in this manner.

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Re: CSDesulfurizing

[Alan Jones]

Hey Mike, does the design allow wire crimping instead of soldering?  I think
the idea of soldering might turn away many potential users, but wire
crimping is simple, cheap and reliable.

Alan

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Mike Monett armor@gishpuppy.comwrote:


 There are only three solder joints,  so pretty much any teenager with a
 soldering iron will have no problems.


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Re: CSDesulfurizing [GishPuppy]

[Alan Jones]

Crimping requires a lot less skill than soldering, that was my point.  I'm
not an electrical engineer but I've always used crimping for my speaker
building and car stereo projects.  I've never experienced breakage of wire
strands, and have found crimped connections to be much more reliable than my
pitiful attempts to solder.

Solder is a poor conductor and I would expect a decent crimp connection to
conduct better, perhaps someone has tested this somewhere (not sure how one
would test this).

I would also expect oxidation of copper wires kept dry to be negligible, but
can't quantify this.

I know that when I make your device I will use crimping, so maybe we can
learn more from my direct experience.

Alan

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Mike Monett armor@gishpuppy.comwrote:


 Alan,

 Crimping requires some skill to apply the proper pressure. The joint has to
 be gas-tight to prevent oxidation and poor conduction.

 As far as I can tell, the tools that can do this correctly are very
 expensive. At least the ones I have had to buy.

 Two of the joints connect the fine stranded wire of the alligator leads to
 the solid leads of a through-hole resistor. I think crimping would tend to
 break the fine strands and result in poor joint reliability.

 Do you know of any easy and inexpensive method to avoid these problems?

 Thanks,

 Mike


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Re: CSDesulfurizing [GishPuppy]

[Alan Jones]

Just a quick addendum, I'm not going to have the answers you need, I suggest
a Google of compare solder crimp (without quotes) for more authoritative
views on the subject.

Alan

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Crimping requires a lot less skill than soldering, that was my point.  I'm
 not an electrical engineer but I've always used crimping for my speaker
 building and car stereo projects.  I've never experienced breakage of wire
 strands, and have found crimped connections to be much more reliable than my
 pitiful attempts to solder.

 Solder is a poor conductor and I would expect a decent crimp connection to
 conduct better, perhaps someone has tested this somewhere (not sure how one
 would test this).

 I would also expect oxidation of copper wires kept dry to be negligible,
 but can't quantify this.

 I know that when I make your device I will use crimping, so maybe we can
 learn more from my direct experience.

 Alan


 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Mike Monett armor@gishpuppy.comwrote:


 Alan,

 Crimping requires some skill to apply the proper pressure. The joint has
 to
 be gas-tight to prevent oxidation and poor conduction.

 As far as I can tell, the tools that can do this correctly are very
 expensive. At least the ones I have had to buy.

 Two of the joints connect the fine stranded wire of the alligator leads to
 the solid leads of a through-hole resistor. I think crimping would tend to
 break the fine strands and result in poor joint reliability.

 Do you know of any easy and inexpensive method to avoid these problems?

 Thanks,

 Mike


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