RE: CSOT - dementia updates
Thanks for posting the Dr. Williams link, below, advocating the use of niacinamide for treating Alzheimers. Wikipedia has some useful information about niacinamide as well. Here is a Government study of the safety of using niacinamide for treating Alzheimers http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00580931 It was last updated in March this year, so perhaps the study is still on-going. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - dementia updates All, The link below is excellent. This is one to save and print. On 2011/10/02, at 5:12, Dan Nave wrote: Go to http://www.drdavidwilliams.com/legacy/order/pdf/reverse-alzheimers.pdf Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSquestion regarding CS production
Use a LM334 current regulator. You can set the current much lower. I have good results with 0.2 mA in a quart of H2O for 24 hours, no stirring needed. Steve Y. _ From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSquestion regarding CS production Hi Guys, I am very new to the list and I am sorry if am asking something that may have been answered many times before (I couldn't find a FAQ .. or a sticky post...). It was from reading the excellent posts from this silver-list that I have decided to make my own CS.. I used to buy my CS, however I decided to make my own CS primarily due to the fact that the amount being used warranted that I make my own. I got my friendly jeweler to rollout a Canadian maple leaf coin 99.99% purity into a wire (bought from a respected coin dealer and also tested with a silver testing kit, which gave me a rough idea that it wasn't a fake coin) Then made a very simple circuit arrangement using a 30V dc power supply, into an lm338 and also tried with a lm317 regulator used in a current controlling mode, set to 1.5ma (since i couldn't get it to go any lower). I am stirring the water with a motor which is spinning a plastic knife around, in a 300g glass coffee jar, to delay agglomeration. When used with distilled water (steam distilled by my friend with his own distiller - he needs it for his silvergen sg6) - I have a water meter that which measured 0 micro siemens for the water), I created bits of silver that I could see visually... like very microscopic glitter, which I know is incorrect and there were sparklies on top and sludge gathering at the bottom... I had an initial arrangement of 1 anode and 1 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, and then placed them 2cm electrode to electrode, which was really bad!... I then made an array of 3 anodes and 3 cathodes 15cm each 1.25mm wide exactly, perfectly parallel to each other, and then placed them 3.5cm electrode to electrode...which helped significantly... but still not perfect.. water is room temperature and definitely no additives like salt, Bicarb or even CS!... Voltage does indeed drop slowly over two hours, and current maintained at 1.5ma and then hovers at around 5-6 volts which seems to be the saturation point, when it first gets to around 6 volts i found its around 9 micro seimens. but visible particles of silver. I thought at 1.5ma for even 1 anode setup that I would be ok, and not overdrive it... but clearly something isn't right So I may have not done something right, or not understood the process, or something could be faulty .. or a combination therein Would you kind people help shed some light on what's going on here. Many Thanks, Asif. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1511/3684 - Release Date: 06/06/11
RE: CSfiltering CS vs polarity switching
I got tired of manually cleaning and swapping my CS generator electrodes. So I converted my homemade generator to electrically swap polarity to the electrodes about every 15 minutes. I kept the same run time of 24 hours, but I had to increase the constant current from about 0.2 ma to 0.3 ma to end up with the same strength brew. Now I NEVER need to clean or swap the electrodes. And no stuff sluffs off into the brew, so there is no need to filter or carefully decant. I highly recommend automatic polarity switching of current to CS generator electrodes. Steve Y. _ From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 9:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSfiltering CS Well, each to their own I spose, but suffice to say I never want to see any 'stuff' build up on my electrodes. No big deal necessarily I guess, just something I never want to see on my setup, which is why I clean my trodes at regular timed intervals, if they need it or not. I don't have polarity reversal on my gear, I just swap the trodes over as I clean them. Nothing detrimental either, you can filter it as you say, or leave it behind in the container. If you've got another use for that residue that's fine, but if not, you got residue in the container serving no useful purpose. I don't have a use for it personally, and I don't see a need to find a use for it, so I choose not to create any 'debris'. N. _ Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 08:35:49 -0600 From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net Subject: Re: CSfiltering CS To: silver-list@eskimo.com Should I be cleaning the trodes during the brewing process? Besides knocking the stuff off and creating debris in my CS is there any other detrimental effects of having that stuff build up during a brew? Anthony _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3649 - Release Date: 05/20/11
RE: CSTyndal Effect help
Anthony, Faint Tyndall effect from a laser pointer generally is indicative of smaller particle sizes, which is good. Usually slower brewing times at low electrode current produces smaller particles. I would say you have made an effective batch which is a mix of small particles and ions. The vote is still out on what ratio of ions and particles is best - there is probably a wide range that produces good results. Steve Y. -Original Message- From: anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net [mailto:anthony.aqui...@sasktel.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTyndal Effect help Is it necessary to have a Tyndal Effect to have a good quality product. I use a silvergen machine and deionized water that reads well below 1uS on a hanna meter. After I am done I have a reading around 14uS and it tastes like CS but I have little to no TE. From my readings I understand the TE reflects bigger particles and the meter measures the ions. The silvergen I am using should be doing aprox 80-85/20-15% of ions to particles. If I am not getting the TE does it just mean I am producing less particles, or am I doing something wrong? Is my stuff still effective with only ions? Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless handheld -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSProbiotics
Thank you for the responses. Kefir and like products are immediately acted upon in the stomach and the friendly bacteria is acted upon by the gastric juices, acids, etc. How much of the friendly bacteria actually makes it to the intestines where it is most needed? That is why I mentioned I would like a delivery system with a timed release feature so the probiotic would be released primarily in the intestines, not the stomach. --Steve Y. _ From: Gayla Roberts [mailto:aera...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSProbiotics Kefir and kombucha. Or any traditional fermented foods. Gayla - Original Message - From: Sara Mandal-Joy smjl...@wavewls.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: Re: CSProbiotics I make my own kefir. Can't do better than that, from my perception. Sara On 3/12/2011 3:30 PM, SJY wrote: Anyone have experience and recommendations for probiotics? Specifically, brands that have at least 10 strains of friendly bacteria with a strength of at least 10 billion bacteria, and time released so they make it to the intestines without being destroyed in the stomach. Decent shelf life (stabilized) also. For example OurHealthCo-op Probiotics 16. Thanks, Steve Y.
CSProbiotics
Anyone have experience and recommendations for probiotics? Specifically, brands that have at least 10 strains of friendly bacteria with a strength of at least 10 billion bacteria, and time released so they make it to the intestines without being destroyed in the stomach. Decent shelf life (stabilized) also. For example OurHealthCo-op Probiotics 16. Thanks, Steve Y.
RE: CSMMS email received today
Renee, Just for your information, A2Z corp (mmsdr.com) sold me 1 pound of Sodium Chlorite flakes for $25 plus shipping. Shipping was by Priority Mail, so they don't use ground transportation. They include directions for making 1 4 oz bottle, as well as making 40 oz with the entire 1 pound, of 28% solution which they call water purification drops. Steve Young _ From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS email received today Well, I still sell it. I'm too small to be noticed, plus I don't have a web site. It's just word of mouth. It's $10 for a 4 ounce bottle of MMS, and an extra empty bottle for your activator. It's $7 actual shipping for express mail. Samala, Renee No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3076 - Release Date: 08/16/10 12:35:00
RE: CSFrom Generator to Bottle
Randy, You can just leave your CS in your quart jar. No need for special amber bottles. This assumes you have made it with 0.999 or better pure silver electrodes, steam distilled water and no other additives. But if you insist, either funnel material is fine. Just first give them a rinse with distilled water. Steve Y. -Original Message- From: ra...@shavetailalpaca.com [mailto:ra...@shavetailalpaca.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 5:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFrom Generator to Bottle Greetings, I'm curious if I can transfer a batch of CS from my qt jar to the amber bottles via a stainless steel funnel or a plastic funnel? Would either of them carry any unwanted materials to the bottle? Sorry if that's a novice question, but I want my CS to be as good as it can be. Randy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3069 - Release Date: 08/13/10 12:34:00
CSPopSci Archives
All, 137 years of Popular Science magazines are now available free to browse through. There are a number of interesting articles about Tesla and Tesla Coils at this URL: http://www.popsci.com/results?query=Tesla . Lots of other fascinating reading. And the old ads are fun as well. --Steve Y.
CSVanadium for Diabetes?
(This is off topic). I got some junk mail from Dr. Julian Whitaker regarding Diabetes. It is the usual glitzy pitch, full of astonishing speed cures, 3-Week Miracle treatment claims,, etc., to lure people to subscribe to his newsletter. But amidst all the hype and hoopla he states I'll give you full details about the world's most lifesaving blood sugar supplement. Vanadium! My colleagues and I have used it with stunning success for thousands of patients. And in animal studies, this supplement has eliminated type 2 diabetes, all by itself. Etc. Anyone know if Vanadium supplements can really help diabetics control their blood sugar levels, and/or provide other beneficial results? Thanks, Steve Y.
CSWhere to buy CMO
List (especially Brooks), Not finding a source of Cetyl Myristoleate (CMO) locally, I searched the Internet. As you can imagine, there are many sources, each making wonderful claims about their products, and some bad-mouthing their competitors, etc. So I need recommendations from you who have used CMO with good results. What brands and sources do you recommend? What are your recommendations regarding products that compound CMO with digestive enzymes, Glucosamine, Hyaluronic Acid, etc. To keep this on topic, have you users of CMO had any adverse effects from also taking EIS (CS)? Responses either on or off list will be appreciated. Thank you, Steve Y.
CSSpinal Arthritis
My wife has been diagnosed with arthritis of the spine, as confirmed by MRI. This causes her severe pain, compounded by the effects of fibromyalgia. Question for list: CMO helps with arthritis of joints, and the spine is a series of connected joints. Does anyone know if CMO, or any other similar medication, can help with spinal arthritis? Thanks, Steve Y.
RE: CSHi listers--got this ? from a friend. CS flying..
You can always just take a CS generator with you make it at your destination. _ From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHi listers--got this ? from a friend. CS flying.. I don't think you are allowed liquids are you? dee On 10 Nov 2009, at 22:34, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: Hey Lois, I'm leaving for Florida Saturday, any good ideas for carrying my C.S. onboard the airplane? Checked luggage, of course. Laurie Any ideas--?? I don't fly so can't help her .. Thanks much, Lois No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.61/2498 - Release Date: 11/12/09 07:38:00
RE: CSstrange
Dorothy, Your DW should not show a Tyndall effect. Possibly in a completely dark room you might see a very faint laser beam, but it will be orders of magnitude fainter than what you see in a properly prepared CS product. Your distiller must be producing impure water. Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSstrange just thought I'd report a strange occurrence i.e. I used my lazer pen on a jar of DW I just made, and it had the tyndall effect! That is, it had a strong red line across it. I thought this only happened *after* the silver was in it? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00
RE: CSGetting Started
Jeff, You don't need to store your EIS/CS in amber bottles. Clear bottles are fine - light doesn't affect EIS/CS made with only distilled water and pure silver electrodes. Steve Y. _ From: Jeff Maahs [mailto:j_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSGetting Started Finally made my first batch. The silver arrived today and I put together 4 9v batteries and started the process. Over an hour and nothing happened. So I moved the rods closer together and added a bit of the commercial CS we had bought. About 30 minutes later I looked and the solution was cloudy. Using a laser level I looked into the solution and could see the particles. No idea how concentrated it was though as I don't have a meter. I'd like to hear if there is a fairly good method. So we all rinsed our mouths and gargled as it had become a family event. I need to get some of the amber bottles and different tops now. We've had some interesting results with the commercial solution and my youngest's breathing at night. When we use the CS nose spray she doesn't snore or breath loudly. If we forget to have her spray we find out later from the snoring. She's been diagnosed with allergies but it happened so suddenly I'm not so convinced. It's been about 2 weeks with the CS spray so we'll continue and see what happens. Jeff ps - sorry Garnet No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2443 - Release Date: 10/17/09 13:08:00
CSLipsomal Encapsulated Vitamin C
Brooks other experimenters, 1) Subject topic has been discussed and evolved for a number of weeks now. Based on the results of those who are making suitable products, for the sake of the rest of us who now want to make our own, please post your recipe of ingredients (e.g. lecithin granules, sodium ascorbate), quantities of these ingredients (by weight or by volume), your step by step procedure, and any other helpful tips such as where you got your ingredients, what should be avoided, storage life, etc. 2) Another question: is there any advantage, other than more volume capacity, for the larger Harbor Freight US cleaner over their smaller one? The larger one has a built-in heater, but is that of any use? Does the larger one have more power density (i.e. power per cubic centimeter), or just more power for more volume, ending up with about the same power density as the smaller one? 3) Last question: Some products (e.g. MMS1) are recommended to not be consumed within a few hours of taking Vitamin C. How would this recommendation be applied for Lipsomal Encapsulated Vit C-same timing? In other words, how do absorbsion and dispersion rates compare for Vit C capsules vs Lipsomal Encapsulated Vit C? Thanks, Steve Y.
RE: CSMMS news
Even nicer to learn about MMS2: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-mms2intro.htm Anyone have any personal opinions about it or experience with using it? Steve Y. -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 7:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMMS news Nice to know this about MMS http://jimhumble.biz/biz-skin.htm Chuck God will forgive me. That's his job, after all. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.94/2366 - Release Date: 09/12/09 17:50:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFW: asthma, pneumonia
Gina, What works well for me is to use a Harbor Freight air brush (part number 47791-OVGA) with air coming from a Harbor Freight air brush air compressor (93657-OVGA). Just put an ounce or two of your normal 5 to 20 ppm CS (EIS) in the air brush reservoir, adjust the nozzle for a fine mist, aim it at your mouth and/or nose and inhale it several times, and repeat this inhalation procedure many times a day. Brooks Bradley, our resident list expert in these matters, recommends supplying the air brush with pure oxygen, instead of compressed air, but the compressed air seems to work fine for me. Just be sure to use an oil-less air compressor so you don't inhale oil fumes. If you don't have a Harbor Freight store near you, you can order from www.harborfreight.com Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFW: asthma, pneumonia I had this info at one time, but can not find it now! I would appreciate someone telling me again how to nebulize CS. I need all the details. How much CS? How much dilutant? (I'm using DI water.) Any other details that will help me will be appreciated! My daughter (3 years old) is having what seems to be another asthma attack. It's been several months since her last one (March), which actually ended up in pneumonia. I am not interested in going to the hospital with her, so I want to do anything an everything I can to keep her out. If there is some other treatment that you know of that will help her, I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you! Gina -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.90/2361 - Release Date: 09/10/09 18:12:00
RE: CSFW: asthma, pneumonia (nebulizer)
Gina, Only a small fraction of an ounce of CS is inhaled at a time. The idea of putting in an ounce or two into the nebulizer is to have it ready for use every half hour or so during the day, but definitely not to inhale that much at once! Yes, you can put in only a teaspoon if you wish. Use your Silver Puppy brew as-is, no dilution. Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Gina Moore [mailto:vegasmom...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSFW: asthma, pneumonia Sorry. I guess I should have said that I do have a nebulizer. :-) Both of my kids have had to have nebulized meds for asthma/pneumonia so I have one. Would I put a whole ounce of CS in the nebulizer? Seems like a lot considering the meds are only maybe a teaspoon or so. Do I need to dilute it? I have a Silver Puppy, and I don't know the ppms - I would assume it's appropriate for this though? Anyone know if MMS would be good to give her? Not necessarily nebulized... unless that is good to do. Thanks! Gina -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLiposomal Encapsulation
To List Encapsulators, Have any of you tried using a blender instead of an ultrasonic cleaner? If so, what were the results? Perhaps Brooks could remind us of what the USC does that a blender can't do as well. Thanks, Steve Y. _ From: Brooks Bradley [mailto:brooks76...@lycos.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:08 AM To: Silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSIMPORTANT COMMENT; Liposomal Encapsulation Several list members have experienced difficulty in obtaining reliable, accurate indications of the actual encapsulation percentages..using the Do It Yourself technique which I outlined in an earlier post. NOTE: The methodology outlined IS NOT RELIABLE as a true indication of achieved encapsulation levels of vitamin C. The ONLY truly reliable means of, accurately, knowing the degree of encapsulation is via Electron Microscopic observation. This entails preparation protocols/equipment beyond means of most personseven most laboratories. In my enthusiasm to avail list members of a SIMPLE protocol, which had yielded results reliable enough to validate useful parametersI outlined a test which is NOT TRULY INDICATIVE of the encapsulated Vitamin C content. For those of you who followed my instructions for making a general determination of the approximate, percentage levels of encapsulation, the discrepancy in resultsyou may have achieved, ARE NOT YOUR FAULT and did not result from a broken protocol on your part. Partial Explanation: There are just too many variables involved (volumes/strengths/ratios) of the reactive materials, especially bicarbonate and ascorbic acid fractions presenting. Just varying the velocity of mixing can result in marked differences of the gas-release reaction. The gas generation is NOT a true reflection of the percentage of non-encapsulated Vitamin C fraction. While my intentions were of the highest order, my information was incomplete and poorly constructed. For this, I deeply apologize. Although some may be able to replicate my results, the protocol proper, is too unreliable for general application. However, all is not lost. There is a VISIBLE, indicator of the general success of the experimenter's procedure. We HAVE determined, via electron microscope examination by an associated laboratorythat almost any solution achieved using the simple procedures outlined in my original post for producing encapsulation.yields 50% encapsulation. One excellent indicator is the degree of apparent homogenization. That is, the uniform, milky, appearance..and its long-term (days) retention. I have no defensible excuse for my errortherefore, must appeal to the graces of the list membersfor understanding. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. P.S. I would be remiss if I failed to encourage ALL OF YOU to continue your researches addressing use of this most promising protocol for encapsulation. The majority of our investigations have yielded VERY powerful positive results. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.71/2330 - Release Date: 08/27/09 18:02:00
RE: CSOT Alzhiemers
There is a video by Steven Wm Fowkes, BA: Preventing and reversing Dementia Alzheimer Disease. Go to this site: http://smartlifeforum.org/wiki/2009/01 The video runs an hour and 31 minutes, and is 416 Mb long. It is about ketosis as a superior form of energy delivery for neurons. I didn't have the patience to download and view it. The 6 part video in the link below is VERY INTERESTING - convinces me to start taking coconut oil while I can still remember to do it! Steve Y. _ From: Joseph Metz [mailto:josephm...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT Alzhiemers The SF Commonwealth Club had an event yesterday. I went for Dr.s Amen Orloff. More interesting than I expected. There were an additional 2 speakers/scientists who took the stage together were giddy with excitement delight. They claim to have found a cure for Alzhiemers Disease. (AD) Correction, they claim others found a cure for Alzheimers. Using others research, they connected the dots can explain the why's how's. The short version is coconut oil, the long version is medium chain triglicerides (MCT) to provide the brain with energy via ketones from the liver since the method of using energy from glucose is deficient in the AD brain. They said they posted the science onto You Tube but I couldn't find it. I thought their names were Phil Jacklin Steve Fowlkes but I didn't see the vid they were referring to. This one looks like an ad but its the Dr the two giddy speakers were discussing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpjRbhFmd4A No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.70/2329 - Release Date: 08/27/09 08:11:00
CSScience Digest - Nanosilver
There is an interesting and somewhat scary article about the potential dangers of nanosilver here http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080909074102.htm The scary part is classifying a keyboard and mouse coated with nanosilver as a pesticide, and the company that did it being fined $200,000! Steve Y.
RE: CSEICS colour?
Neville, You probably won't like this answer, but here it is anyway. You should find a source of steam distilled water such that your finished product has no discernable color. Consider color as an indication that you are making something less than an optimum product. In your case, your Pure Water is probably a misnomer, and you may be making some silver compounds that cause your brew to be colored. Stick with genuine steam distilled water. Unless you know the specific types and quantities of contaminants in your water, there is no way to equate color with ppm. Steve Y. _ From: Neville [mailto:nevillem...@bigpond.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEICS colour? Hi All, Yep, I'm back! Assume everything has settled down so I thought I could come out of hiding...joking of course...g Perhaps someone could give me the colour ranges of LVDC CS, starting with clear and progressing through the colour changes after that? Except 'black', don't bother with 'black' as I'm never going to go that far. My research states 'yellow' is always the first colour which becomes apparent when producing colloids. I have researched some information but prefer a personal appraisal. I am using Pure Water at the moment as the supermarket I usually get my Distilled Water from is closed for refurbishment. Can't say I'm happy with Pure Water though, even though I got it from the chemist 'cos this is what they use in making up medications so I figured it should be pretty much the best that is available for the man, oops, and woman in the street. I have never had colour changes using DW in the past but with this PW the colours I have got are...clear, yellow and 'pink-ish'. I have been starting to add a quantity of previous batches of CS also and believe this could be the reason for the colour changes, even though I use the same method of production and time frame, (don't ask me why though, and I am aware of 'seeding' the water). I don't usually add previous CS as a 'seed', I just use the water straight out of the bottle. The ambient temperatures are starting to increase here due to seasonal change so the reason could be simply that, but somehow I doubt it. Every other time I have made CS in the past it has always been clear, hovering around the 10-15ppm, (give and take depending on what ppm I decide I want at the time), so have decided to stick with Distilled, I definitely won't consider Demineralised. These results are the reason for my question about colour changes. Enn...dem...err...preferably under 1000 words? g Just simple colour changes will suffice. A 'concensus of opinion' regarding the ppm of each colour would also be helpful, so I can do a comparison with my meter tested results. If your ppm results is with the use of the Com 100 TDS/EC/TEMP meter or Hanna TDS 1 'ppm...?' meter, perhaps you could include that also so I know what meter to use, (I have both), OH, and I will need to know what setting the Comm meter is set on. I also know about the use of meters in testing 'ppm' when they are basically only conductivity meters but if I use the same setting as you then I will be far better able to make my comparisons. Information I have states the Com 100 meter should be set to either EC/KCl or Nacl for colloidal silver. Don't bother with water temperature as I haven't checked my water temperatures before/or during production anyway, I'll just 'read between the lines' so to speak, it's only to give me a fairly good idea that's all, to narrow down the 'guesswork' without laboratory testing, (cash and the lack thereof). You see, I know that there are several of you here that have been 'into' CS for quite some time so thought I would ask you 'straight up'. This way I will know 'straight from the horses mouth' so to speak, and it can be considered more 'trusted and reliable'. Neville. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1675 - Release Date: 9/16/2008 7:06 PM
CSPolarity Reversal
I am interested in your educated thoughts regarding polarity reversal of constant current DC being supplied to the electrodes. Specifically, how would one optimize the frequency of polarity reversals, given brew the time (and possibly the current), to minimize the buildup of crud on the electrodes? If the reversals are too fast (e.g. many reversals per second), the ions will not have time to get from one electrode to the other, and brew time will go up substantially. On the other hand, if the reversals are too slow e.g. a few times per brew time), then I suppose this might defeat the advantage of less crud buildup on the electrodes. In my case, I use 5.5 inch electrodes spaced about 2 inches apart, with a constant current of 0.25 ma for 24 hours. This makes a very good product with very small particles. Based on your experience, what would be the recommended range of time between reversals, and what is the basis for your recommendation? Thanks, Steve Y.
CSLyme Disease
All, There have been many posts over the years (Marsha, Brooks, etc) regarding Lyme disease treatments with CS other products. I have not saved them because it was not a concern. But it turns out my wife probably has had it for years without realizing it, so now it is a concern. I would appreciate anyone posting or reposting remedies for Lyme disease. You can send them to the list of directly to me if you wish. Thanks in advance, Steve Y.
RE: CS LED lightsBelly Button
Sandee, Can you cite some references regarding the use of nutmeg oil for enlarged prostate? I did a web search and found numerous uses for nutmeg oil, but didn't see anything regarding its effect on the prostate gland. Thanks, Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS LED lightsBelly Button snip - if you would like to add to what you are doing - drop two to three drops of nutmeg oil in your morning and evening drink - the properties of the nutmeg shrinks anything going on in the prostrate - so you will soon be feeling like a teenager again With no side effects !smile Take good care of you - good healing Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1433 - Release Date: 5/14/2008 4:44 PM
CSCS article in Scientific American
All, There is an interesting article regarding the use of Silver Colloids (aka nanoparticles) in paint in the May issue of Scientific American. See http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=silver-coating-fights-microbes . --Steve Y.
RE: CSRe: CS Systemic Action
I think he meant High Voltage Alternating Current, provided by a standard size neon size transformer rated at 15,000 Volts at 60 Milliamps. He obviously is not very knowledgeable regarding these potentially lethal units, so it is probably a good thing it malfunctioned before he hurt or killed himself! --Steve Y. _ From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:54 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: CS Systemic Action JD - I tried going to ask to find out what HVAC is and it connected it to heating and air conditioning. I don't think that is what you are talking about so would you please explain what it is please. Dianne - Original Message - From: JD Kalloco mailto:kall...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: CSRe: CS Systemic Action Greetings to all! I just rejoined this list after an extended hiatus of several years. Mike D.'s invitation was simply irresistible. Anyway ... I am interested in systemic action. I formerly generated HVAC with a generator sold by some guy(s) in N.I. 15,000 kvolt neon transformer ... either 60 milli or micro amps. Can't recall which, but the current was sufficient to scare the daylights out of me a few times (milli vs micro is a major difference ... surely it was 50 micro amps?) The manufacturer entombed the innards of the unit in electrical tar ... an apparent attempt to protect their proprietary interest. A lame grade switch eventually gave out ... rendering the unit useless for much of anything besides a door stop. Attempts to remedy the switch fell upon deaf ears with the boys of N.I. ... even though I nearly lost the life of a close family member who did not respond well to a silver embargo. Fortunately, a friend who had purchased 2 different units over the years with my input, came through for us. He shipped a loaner out ... a high volume constant current Low Voltage AC unit. My family member was so ill that the home health care nurses had refused to continue care unless their patient was transferred to a hospital.Fortunately, I was able to restore their supply of CS ...sent a mixture of CS Aloe in a sprayer bottle The wound care nurse had come out for a last inspection, and to sign off on the case ... on a Tuesday. They had last examined their patient on the previous Thursday morning. In that short period of 4 - 5 days, the pressure sores were all but healed. The nurse was quite curious about this major turnaround ... followed up with a query for information on this treatment. Hopefully, this Nurse has shared this information with other patients. I had purchased a 1 oz. bottle in sprayer at a local health store ... don't recall the brand .. it was not any of the major labels ... nor have I seen this brand since. My friend's unit arrived the day after I started generating a huge supply of CS with my friend's high volume unit (constant current low voltage AC) back in Nov. 2004. My first dose was approximately 3 or 4 oz. of 12ppm (measured with a Hanna PWT ... believe that was calculated in microsiemens, and then adjusted for PPM ... it's been quite some time since I've reviewed the math.) A few hours later, my head started aching rather fierce. I finally made the connection of a possible Herxheimer effect ... one that was confirmed a few days later with another less robust dosage. This herx effect eventually wore off after using the product regularly ... yet it would return if I did not consume product for several months and consumed a robust dose. Yet, I never had experienced a herx with the HVAC product ... even with 6 to 8oz dosages. I soon lost interest in my door stop. If anyone can tell me how to fix it ... or if they are interested in taking it off my hands, please write! It is my opinion that the low voltage AC product provides a systemic action that the HVAC product simply could not deliver. Perhaps this was simply the result of the electrode configuration? Or is the HVAC methodology less effective? The HVAC product worked great on kidney infections ... urinary tract ... eyes ... and topical ... but never did I noticed any systemic benefit like a respiratory illness or influenza or even dental infections for that matter. The HVAC was somewhat beneficial for sinus comfort .. but it worked much better when combining it with MSM (methyl-sulfonyl-methane.) Btw ... anyone notice how well MSM CS works when nasal sprayed for snoring? thanks for following this far! I'm on the digest mode ... so if you'd like an immediate and/or personal response, you are always welcome to write direct. Please insert an ALERT in the subject line if you write direct ... I might miss it otherwise. best regards, JD Kalloco PostRx: does anyone have a favorite high volume CS generator?
CSOutrageous MSP Website
All, I just viewed this most outrageous website: http://www.invive.com/ which promotes Mild Silver Protein in the hundreds to thousands of ppm strengths as the only effective silver product for treating diseases. What especially irked me was their attack and blanket branding of those that sell EIS products in the 5 to 20 ppm range as liars who sell worthless products, etc. For the benefit of new list members, it would be good if some of you would refute their many hyped claims about high ppm MSP and reinforce the facts that our EIS product made with distilled water and 0.999 pure silver electrodes is indeed safe and effective, contrary to what Invive states. And could someone explain why the FDA has not shut them down like they have some other CS websites? Steve Y.
CS15-60 Franceformer For Sale
I am forwarding this from another list. If interested, please contact Rich Adams directly. (EIS is electrically isolated silver aka colloidal silver). -Original Message- From: Rich Adams [mailto:r...@kc.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT Franceformer Anyone looking for a 15K/60ma Franceformer (neon sign transformer) for cheap + shipping (heavy)? Ole Bob and I used it to make HVAC EIS. Contact me off list please. rad...@kc.rr.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCitric acid / MMS ratio
Smitty, According to the directions from the MMS people, mix one part citric acid powder (e.g. 1tbls) with 9 parts distilled water (e.g. 9 tbls). Then for every drop of MMS, add 5 drops of your citric acid solution. Then let this combination sit for 3 minutes to activate. Then add some water to it and drink it down. If it tastes too horrible for you, then instead of adding water, and some juice that does NOT contain any Vitamin C. See http://mmsmiracle.com/faq/ --Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCitric acid / MMS ratio I have a bottle of MMS and a bottle of citric acid. The citric acid is a powder. My question, how much citric acid powder do I mix with how many drops of MMS ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM
RE: CSNewbie - Just began making CS - SilverGen questions
Mary, Welcome to the list! It is normal to produce a little bit of sludge along with your product. Just let it sink to the bottom and carefully decant off the good stuff, leaving the sludge a bit of liquid. Then dump out that residue. I don't recommend using a filter as it will just contribute unwanted chemicals into your batch, and it is an unnecessary pain to do it. You can store your product in the jar you made it in if you wish. And you don't need to clean the jar before making another batch. If your generator doesn't automatically reverse polarity as it runs, and both electrodes are silver, it would be a good idea to swap the electrodes each time you make a batch so they get consumed evenly. --Steve Y. -Original Message- From: kayedoe [mailto:kaye...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNewbie - Just began making CS - SilverGen questions Hi all, I'm new to the list . I heard of this list through Beck n Stuff yahoo group. These questions may have been asked a gazillion times in the past but I had difficulty finding the list archives. so here it goes... I've been using cs for about three years (myself/kids and pets). Up to this point I got my cs from a friend but I wanted the independence of making my own so I bought a generator. I just received my SilverGen unit last week and began making my own cs. I am using distilled I made using a steam distiller. Up to this point I am using a 32 oz glass jar. I was thinking I would prefer to make a gallon at a time. I do have 1 gal wide mouth glass jars. I don't have any form of TDS or PPM meter so I have no idea exactly what the final results have been. I have the meter set to high. Although I have been using cs for almost three years I have some newbie questions in terms of making cs on your own. A couple of observations I wanted to bounce off others who making their own, especially if they are using the SilverGen... Sludge build up only on one side. Is this normal only to build up on one side? Ash? What is this? In the 4th batch, I noticed what appears as a small ant hill like pile in the bottom of the jar. Once the build up on the silver was visual, I began wiping the silver clean before beginning the next batch. I did have a laser, one of my cats favorite toys :o) so I checked the solution and was able to see the laser line through the solution. With the help of the laser I was able to confirm that here were different particle sizes visually in suspension that were not visible to the naked eye. The product does have a silver taste. What I am referencing as ash is NOT metal fallout as I know it. After I noticed this result I stopped production. The solution is CLEAR, no presents of color. Do I simply filter this batch or discard? If have you all used to filter cs? Any suggestion and comments are welcome. Mary -- In Love, Light and Honor.. May You and Yours be Blessed with Health, Happiness, Wisdom and Prosperity. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1143 - Release Date: 11/21/2007 10:01 AM
CSNeed MMS Posts
All, Recently there was a flurry of MMS postings which I neglected to save. I would now like to get copies of them. If some of you have saved them, I would appreciate it if you would email me off-list and let me know you have them and are willing to email them to me. I will then ask one of you to send me the files. Thanks in advance, Steve Y.
RE: CSWiping Electrodes - Question
If you have the option of swapping the electrodes, you should do that periodically to ensure even electrode wear. --Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:na...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWiping Electrodes - Question I'd say, don't wipe them, just make another batch. That's what I do in that case. Ole Bob said he never wiped the black electrode, just the negative electrode with the white bearded buildup. Dan Jodi wrote: Hi guys. I have a Silver Puppy, but perhaps this question applies to other generators as well. If I brew a batch of CS and the electrodes don't 'seem' to have any silver residue on them when it is finished, can I just skip wiping them down with a paper towel and run another batch without any adverse effect on that subsequent batch? . I should say that some of the black silver residue is there on one electrode, but there is hardly any white silver residue (which I believe is silver oxide?) at all on the other. Sometimes I make a batch and there is so much of that white silver residue, but this time, and at other times for reasons I don't understand, there is hardly any, and because of that, I didn't wipe the electrodes down. Is that okay? The water I'm using has been consistently good, by the way. Not sure if that makes a difference regarding my question. Thanks. Jodi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM
RE: CSCS Nebulizer ??? - Help
Get an inexpensive Harbor Freight air brush (www.harborfreight.com). It produces very fine droplets that are well suited for inhalation. Use of pure O2 is best, but compressed air works also. Harbor Freight makes a small compressor to go with their air brush which works well. If using a compressor, pick one that doesn't pollute the air supply with oil vapors. --Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Jerome Karl [mailto:jerr...@frontiernet.net] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS Nebulizer ??? - Help Very early on this list - several years ago someone, I think it was Brooks Bradley, posted directions on how to make a CS nebulizer using an inexpensive air brush and bottled Oxygen as the air supply. Since the archives are down does anyone remember how to make it ??? Jerry Karl -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.0/957 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 1:46 PM
RE: CSBest Milliamps
I recommend you stay with your 1.4 mA current limiting diode. Just let it run longer, e.g. 24 hours is convenient. Lower current will make finer particles, and reduces the need for stirring. If you need to make CS faster, then use a quart container instead of a half-gallon. --Steve Y. _ From: Keithmj [mailto:ke...@keithmj.com] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:46 AM To: Silverlist Subject: CSBest Milliamps Hi All..Still playing around. I was wondering what the proper milliamps would be to make the Colloidal Silver. I am using the 30vdc power supply with a current limiting diode and my milliamps are at 1.4 mA and have been brewing a 32ounce batch and after about 15 hours it is only up to 7PPM so I bypassed the current limiting diode and put in a 33kohm resistor and it took it up to 2.4 milliamps. I can get current limiting diodes but was wondering what would be the best setting? If I don't use any thing to limit the milliamps the power supply will put out 16 milliamps which I think is to high to use..Any ideas on this..Thanks..Keithmj http://i.msgtag.com/aqt/rdhbDrtovdsvhu/AfBgabBkzscauul.gif NUDE is not LEWD..Play Naked!!
CSStella Maris CLinic
Have any of you had any experience or knowledge of the Stella Maris Clinic (in Mexico, www.stellamarisclinic.com http://www.stellamarisclinic.com/ ) for cancer treatment? If so, I would appreciate your thoughts on the clinic, staff treatment protocols - email me off list since this is off topic. Thanks, --Steve Y.
RE: CSGatorade, Others are better
(Yes, this is an older thread . . .) Has anyone had experience with Alacer's other product called ElectroMIX for electrolyte supplementation? If so, please share. The Internet prices seem to range from about $8 to over $20 for 36 packets which makes 9 quarts. Thanks, --Steve Y. http://www.alacer.com/default.asp ==Products == ElectroMIX -Original snipped Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGatorade, Others are better There are many electrolyte products much better than Gatorade. How they sell so much of the junk is beyond me. Alacer makes an electrolyte product that is better. Even their simple Emergen'C is better. I have a relative that works in a foundry. He sweats all day long. He said that before Emergen'C, he did not even feel like going home at the end of the shift. Now, he takes 3 packs of Emergen'C per shift and feels good at the end of the sweat session. He has to climb a ladder with 50 pounds on his shoulder. That is plus body weight of course. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 4/29/2007 6:30 AM
RE: CSCS generator
Keith, The best way to use your 30 volt supply would be to add a constant current diode in series with one of the wires going to your electrodes. See www.mouser.com http://www.mouser.com/ and search for J504 and J506. These are 0,75 mA and 1.4 mA, respectively, and cost $1.62 each. I would recommend the lower current one. It will take longer to brew a batch, but you can probably get away with not needing a stirring mechanism because the natural thermal gradients will do it for you. Having a constant current means you will generate CS at a constant rate which means you can use a timer for fairly repeatable results. Roughly speaking, you can generate a quart of very fine quality CS with 0.75 mA in about 8 hours with a strength of 10 to 15 PPM. Then you should buy a Hanna PWT to make sure you have high purity distilled water to start with. It should read in the 1 to 4 PPM range, lower being better. You can also use the PWT to measure your brew to get a rough idea of how many PPM of silver you add to your distilled water. I say rough because the PWT actually measures the conductance of the brew which is a measure of silver ions in the water and only an indirect measure of the silver particles. With the above, you don't need to use an LED and resistor. --Steve Y. _ From: Keithmj [mailto:ke...@keithmj.com] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:56 PM To: Silverlist Subject: CSCS generator Hi all..Some of my questions have been answered so far but decided to start over again to see what the group says. I have a Radio Shack 30vdc 1000mA power supply that I would like to use but I can change my mind, I have 20 of 12 gauge silver wire. I know that I don't need 1000mA but around 1 mA so I need to know how I can get that. I would like to drop the voltage down to about 18 volts as I heard that it is better to use lower voltage. I really wanted something that will let me have a constant voltage and milliamps but I figure it would drop with batteries. I will need a LED and a resistor but don't know if I need a 1000 ohm or a 2000 ohm resistor or what I will need. Any info would help. What do others use to make quality CS that they have made that doesn't use batteries? I'm going to use the battery setup but wanted to make a ac to dc generator. Thanks..Keithmj http://i.msgtag.com/aq/ixaxDCFpkp/iaihfa/wujtxhvqrdse/Cq.gif
CSFoot bath gunk extractor
List, Long ago there was a discussion on the list of the use and benefits of a device consisting of a foot bath container with electrodes immersed in the liquid in the bath. When energized, various colored streams of gunk would be drawn out of the feet, allegedly. If you have any information about such a device, such as how it is made, by what principle does it work. For example, what voltage, frequency, pulse rate, etc. is applied to the electrodes, what is the liquid used, and does it use CS/EIS (I don't think so, but I threw that in to make it barely on topic!) and who sells them, please let me know. Others may be interested, so just post responses on the list. Thanks, Steve Y.
CSRE: Microwave Ovens to make CS
To all who contemplate using a microwave oven power supply to make EIS/CS: You are dealing with about the same high voltage and current as is used in an electric chair to execute people!! It can just as easily kill you if you don't know what you are doing. I have years of high voltage experience, and have produced seven foot arcs (Tesla Coils), but I would NEVER use a microwave oven to make CS because it is too dangerous. There is just no reason to do so. You can make large quantities using safe, low voltages. The good ones work unattended, so it doesn't really require more than a minute or so of your time to set it up and turn it on. Again, I urge you to stay away from lethal voltages and currents associated with microwave oven power supplies!! --Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:32 AM To: Charles Marcus; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: CS qx Charles and all; here's the instruction for the microwave oven circuit CS maker; there is no diagram: Duncan On 13 Apr 2007 at 8:40, Charles Marcus wrote: I sell colloidal silver and I have a page up on how I rewired a microwave oven to use the circuit and make large amounts quickly, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM
CSLecithin
Brooks others, I have decided to try Brooks' recommendation for mineral supplementation using Thorvin kelp granules mixed with Lecithin granules. What is a good (inexpensive) bulk source for Lecithin granules (e.g. 5-10 pounds)? My initial look on the web resulted in higher costs per pound for the Lecithin than the kelp. I don't relish paying more for something to make kelp more ingestible than for the kelp itself! Thanks, --Steve Y.
Re: CSRosacea
I was also taking CS by mouth, but it didn't seem to do anything to diminish the Rosacea. I was using my homemade low constant current EIS product - about 12 PPM. The antibiotic was the thing that was most effective in eradicating the Rosacea. - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CSRosacea Steve Y. writes: I had it also. I tried pads soaked in CS on my face, and it helped only a little. As a result of a visit to a dermatologist, it went into remission as I took small doses of a prescribed, inexpensive antibiotic. I was able to taper the doses down each week, and eventually only needed one capsule a week, then nothing. A dermatologist can tell you which antibiotic will be effective, and you can choose either the type that should be taken with meals, or the type that should be taken between meals. Which makes me wonder if routine CS consumption would work similarly to the antibiotic. Were you taking CS by mouth at that time, Steven? What kind of CS did you try? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRosacea
I had it also. I tried pads soaked in CS on my face, and it helped only a little. As a result of a visit to a dermatologist, it went into remission as I took small doses of a prescribed, inexpensive antibiotic. I was able to taper the doses down each week, and eventually only needed one capsule a week, then nothing. A dermatologist can tell you which antibiotic will be effective, and you can choose either the type that should be taken with meals, or the type that should be taken between meals. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: CSRosacea I have just contracted Rosacea. Haven't a clue as to what happened. I just started spraying my face with CS/EIS. I also take about 2oz and swish and swallow about 3 times per day...any other suggestions?? The medico's say its incurable; they say that about a lot of things.. -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPuzzling Polarity
Wire works fine, is commonly available and is easy to work with. The only reason to use sheets is the increased surface area. However, you can use multiple wires for more area as well. The only reason for needing larger surface areas is for faster production of a given quantity, or a larger quantity in a given time. But one can run many CS generators using single wires to achieve greater production. The more important consideration is the current per unit of surface area. Lower current per unit of area makes for a better product (e.g. smaller particles). My generators use #12 0.999 pure silver wire, 5.5 inches long, spaced 2 in a quart of steam distilled water, using 0.2 milliamp for 24 hours, no stirring used. The result is a superb product. To answer your question better, you need to specify what quantity of EIS you need to produce in a given time. If you don't need large quantities and are not in a particular hurry, then use the more easily obtainable wire. If you need to make a lot of product in a short time, then use silver coins, silver sheets or many silver wires. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: RE: CSPuzzling Polarity Julius, This question is to you, and anyone who knows the correct answer. In your post, you state . .. Sheet electrodes are greatly superior to wire as far as we are concerned because of the greatly enhanced area we believe that this produces a greater proportion of ICS.We have seen medical reports that ICS is much more deadly to pathogenic organisms than the de-ionized CS. 700 + organisms at last count Others have posted that wire is superior, because sheet stock causes buildup of silver oxide at the sharp edges. Also, I note that most of the commercially available CS generators, except the silver-gen, are constructed with wire electrodes. A vendor of an engineered CS generator argues that sheet stock is the cheap way out that his competition has chosen. You see that there is much contradiction and confusion here. Would someone who knows the facts please state them in a definitive way so that all of us newbies can construct a good generator? Which is really best? Sheet or Wire Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStechnical question
Peter, Just to help you many others understand wall adapter current ratings better: Your transformer is actually a transformer and a rectifier combination that puts out DC power. It only puts out the current that the load consumes. Open circuit, your transformer puts out zero current. It is capable of putting out up to 0.4 amps, if the load resistance is low enough. Typically in home brew CS applications you will be drawing currents 100 to 1000 times less than your wall adapter is capable of producing. As most wall adapters are unregulated devices, under the light loads of a CS generator, the output voltage will be up to about 1.4 times higher than that stated on the label. Your sentence would be more correct if you said my transformer is capable of putting out 0.4 amps. --Steve - Original Message - From: Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:36 AM Subject: RE: CStechnical question You are right, my transformer is putting out 0.400 amps not milliamps. Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it.
Carlos, In practice, it takes a finite amount of time, every time the polarity is switched, for the flow of ions to stop and reverse direction. During that time, ion production is less. So in practice, a polarity switched setup will produce less silver in solution than an unswitched version, keeping all other parameters the same. Some people, myself included, just switch electrodes every batch to keep electrode wear the same, and don't bother with the extra complication of polarity switching. Going another step, if you reduce the constant current to about 0.2 milliamp (0.0002 amp), so that your production takes 24 hours, you can eliminate stirring as well. The normal Brownian movement of the water will be all the stirring that is needed. If you need higher production, your wall adapter can run up to hundreds of 1 quart CS generators at the same time, each consuming only 0.2 milliamp. Just add a 0.2 ma constant current diode in series with each quart brewer connect them all to your wall adapter. An ppripriate diode is 1N5283 (0.22 ma), available from Mouser. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: CSPolarity Switching ?...-Some thoughts about it. Friends, From what I understand, the object of polarity switching in the process of brewing AIS is to eliminate the normal silver oxide accumulation in the cathode and the harder coat of silver oxide in the cathode, which maintains both electrodes clean. A determinate ammount of silver oxide will be produced in batch A without polarity switching, which at the end of the process will have produced a noticeable moderate dark grey beard on the cathode. If we have an identical batch B (identical water quality and ammount, temperature, process time, current flow, container, electrodes, etc.) and have polarity switching during the process, I assume aproximately the same ammount of silver oxide will be produced, but instead of accumulating it is, in every switching of the polarity, solving into the water, aside from the ions and colloidal particles being produced. If, after batch A is finished, the current is stopped and the electrodes left in the produced EIS, after a few seconds the cathode beard starts turning into a cascade mostly dissolving in the produced batch, and a smaller part sedimenting at the bottom of the glass jar. If this is the case, the only basic difference between A and B would be cleaner electrodes in B. Both will have a determined ammount of silver oxide incorporated, instead of being cleaned off at intervals during the process. Regards Carlos _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPuzzled!
Sounds like what you bought is some sort of silver compound or silver protein, not the preferred product produced with pure, steam distilled water and high purity silver. Personally, I wouldn't use it, but you will have to make that determination for yourself. --Steve Young - Original Message - From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: Re: CSPuzzled! Today I bought a bottle of Natural Path Silver Wings which and the bottle says 250 pmm per teaspoon. TDS meter measured 120. It has a strong Tyndall, is the color of dark Tea with only the slightest metalic taste.. If I doubled the TDS reading I would get 240 pmm. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMetric /Gauge confusion?
Carlos, 12 Gauge. Reading the label from the silver wire manufacturer, it is 12 Gauge, 2.05 MM. The data from Richard, below, is wrong. --S. Young - Original Message - From: Carlos Pérez explorer...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: Re: CSMetric /Gauge confusion? Hello, Richard, SNIP Now, my confusion lies in what did Steve Young mean when he mentions ...Electrodes are 5.5 in long #12 0.999 pure silver wire... in the CONSTANT LOW CURRENT GENERATOR diagram he so kindly posted and Michael resent me (for the 2th time!!) shortly ago. Did he mean wire No.12, or 12 gauge wire? Thank you and all the rest for your help!! Carlos From: Richard r...@xxicenturysilver.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMetric equivalent to Gauge? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:32:22 +0100 # 14 is 3.556 mm, # 12 is 3.048 mm and # 8 2.032 - all the best to you, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms
Here is the easiest possible stirring mechanism - don't use any at all and let nature do your stirring for you!! Here's how: If you aren't in any particular hurry to generate your EIS (a.k.a. CS), you can drastically reduce the current through your electrodes and let natural thermal activity (called Brownian Motion) take care of stirring for you. For example: In 24 hours, a constant current of about 0.2 mA (that's a fifth of a milliamp) through 5 electrodes spaced 2 apart in a quart of the purest distilled water you can get will make a superb product (i.e. crystal clear, tiny particles and a concentration of somewhere in the range of 12-18 PPM). It needs no stirring, no external heat source to induce thermal convection, no pumps, no timer, nothing extra. I have been doing this for years and have been highly satisfied. Just put your generator some place you visit every day so you remember to shut it off after it has run a day. Mine is on a bathroom counter where I brush my teeth each evening. If you are handy with electronics, or know someone that is, I can send you directions on how to make a simple 0.2 mA constant current supply (send me an email request privately). --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about stirring mechanisms I think the easiest way to stir is to simply get a small aquarium filter pump, and pump the water around the container. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCancer alternative treatments
Dee, Do you know about this site? http://www.cancertutor.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMorgellon Type Illness - A different view
Folks, I too looked at a few Qtips with a strong magnifying glass, and on one I did see one or two of the fibers moving around. I was very careful to ensure there were no air currents. BUT, as an electronic engineer with some high voltage experience, I hypothesized that the movement could be caused by electrostatic fields in the vicinity of the Qtips. Things charged with static electricity (high voltage DC) can exhibit some dynamic activity as the charge leaks off, and/or external things (e.g. hands) move in the vicinity and change the electrostatic field geometry. There are all sorts of things in our environment that can generate electrostatic fields, such as TV picture tubes (not the LCD type), shuffling on carpets, moving air from vacuum cleaners or furnaces, air ionizers, weather phenomena, etc. A few of the cotton fibers appear to be highly sensitive to electrostatic fields. You can see this effect for yourself by using an ordinary comb (not metal) that has been drawn through dry hair, your cat's fur, etc. If you then bring the comb near the Qtip, you can see the fibers move , and you can control the movement by moving the comb around, moving your hand between the comb and the Qtip, etc. What is needed are controlled experiments of observing cotton fibers in an environment completely void of electric fields (do the experiment in a conductive grounded container, with shielded and grounded magnifier, ground straps for the observer, etc). I believe some of you have the ability and wherewithal to conduct such experiments and report your results to the list. Any takers? --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: Re: CSMorgellon Type Illness Are you using magnification to observe this? If so what power? Thanks. I might try this using Japanese products to see what I see. BTW, the morgellons.org site indicates reports from this country also. JBB JBB On Sunday, May 28, 2006, at 13:15 Asia/Tokyo, bbanever wrote: keep hoping this is some sort of joke but I just took another look at the same Qtips I was looking at the other night... the fibers are now moving with greater force and veracity... one is actually writhing like a snake. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking CS
Joseph, My homemade generator uses a quart mason jar, with #12 vertically mounted silver wires spaced about 2 inches apart whose ends are about 3/4 of an inch from the bottom. I use a constant current of about 200 microamps and let it brew for 24 hours. The very low current produces very fine particles and doesn't require mechanical or thermal stirring (the Brownian motion provides sufficient stirring). I don't use polarity switching, but I do swap the wires every batch so they wear out evenly. Be sure to use only steam distilled water. If you are handy with electronics, I can send you a schematic of the constant current supply I use. The parts cost around $15. Or, you can simply buy a constant current diode from Mouser Electronics and put it in series with a 24 volt DC wall transformer available from Radio Shack or Jameco or many other sources. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Joseph Fritz jbfr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: CSMaking CS Hi everyone. It's been a while since I've made CS and have lost/misplaced most of what I was using to make CS. I plan on building a new generator. And was wondering what the current consensus on making CS is. I am going to get new wire for making CS I will be making it in a mason jar Any recommendations on what length cathode/electrode for jar size? I will be using 12 gauge silver wire. What size batch? 16, 32, 64OZ Should I use polarity switching? Should I also have an on/off cycle? What voltage/current? I would look in the archives but they disappeared Any idea if/when they will return? Also if this info is on a web page somewhere could you please point me to it? Thank you! Sincerely Joseph Fritz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScurrent regulating
Mouser Electronics www.mouser.com/centralsemi. You want a current regulator diode which you simply connect in series with one of the leads going to an electrode. They come in various current ratings starting at 0.22 mA on up to 4.7 mA. Some part part numbers are 610-1N52xx, where xx is 85 for .27 ma, 91 for 0.56 ma, 94 for 0.75 ma, 97 for 1.0 ma and 99 for 1.2 ma. You are better to go with less than one ma and let your generator run for a longer time; this yields smaller particles. Cost is about $2. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Max Sanders mazsand...@yahoo.com To: Silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: CScurrent regulating I hope that no one minds my repost. I did not receive an answer to my inquiry and I am quite sure the answer lies within these borders I have been using with success a funky Silver generator that does not have current regulation. I have come to use a magnetic stirrer for a long time now and that was a huge breakthru, then I added a voltage limiting X10 unit that I have to push a button to adjust. It works OK, but I have never added the current limiting diode that would keep the limit on my system. I may even have received this info before and I know it's been discussed muchobut, what is the elec gizmo I need, where do I get it, and how is it installed? Gracios, Maz - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[List Owner] Investment spam posts?
Marshall, I found the best cure is to change your email address and only give it out to selected people. Better is to have 2 email addresses - one for your regular close network of friends and coworkers, the other one to use where there is a risk of it getting sold to spammers. Changing the latter when you start getting spam again is no big deal doesn't require notifying many people. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Investment spam posts? Speaking of spam, I have got to do something. This morning I had 10,000 spam messages, and I am going to not get anything done today but delete spams from my box. I am using Netscape and eudora for my mail, and I need a good spam buster. The server has spam assissian on it, but even at 90% effectiveness I still get over 1,000 through it over a weekend. It seems that every time I look for a good spam program they tell me I have to switch to outlook for my mail client, but there is no way I am trading spam for viruses and worms, I would rather deal with the spam. Any suggestions? Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Hi everybody! Your list owner is ON THE JOB!!! Okay, when one of these investment posts came through from somebody calling themselves b...@verizon.net, I figured that a member thought it was interesting and sent it along. It would have been nice if they had said something so we knew why they wanted to post it, but, in fact, it was talking about using ozone for food sanitation... a relatively obvious alternative health reference. Then a *second* copy comes under a different Subject line, from the same address. Now this starts looking like SPAM. So I went and checked the subscriber file and we don't even *have* a b...@verizon.net ... and when you think about it the odds of anyone even having an address like b...@... from any large domain is pretty much nil. I'm sure b...@verizon.net was taken the first day verizon was handing out userid's, probably to an employee, and that person is unlikely to be a member here. It's most likely a forgery. Digging a bit deeper, it turns out these *were* spam, and they got posted because we have an extremely similar user name already subscribed, and I had the threshold for accepting submissions set to tight but not exact, and that was good enough to let it through. I've changed it now so the list server requires an *exact* match to the subscriber list entry. I hope this won't cause anyone a problem posting. If that happens, let me know. My personal e-mail address is in the footer at the bottom of every list message. Thought you'd all like to know... GRIN Be well, Mike D. list security guard... sigh --- Forwarded message follows --- Date forwarded: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:47:20 -0800 From: Bill b...@verizon.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date sent: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 20:47:19 -0500 Forwarded by: silver-list@eskimo.com Send reply to: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:CSInvestors profit on last minute trading [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] Ticker Symbol: PDSC.PK Buy Aggressively Last Trade: 0.082 AVG Vol: 1,107,198 Short Term Target: +0.67 Long Term Target: +2.00 We believe serious news is on the horizon that can blow the lid off the stock like a powder-keg PDSC is poised to be the standard for the multi-billion dollar food safety industry. Its food sanitation process improves organic and non-organic foods. Billions of American, and International, consumers will receive quality, non-toxic, fresh fruits, vegetables and meats. An estimated 76 million Americans suffer from food-borne illnesses every year, an issue which concerns food producers, processors and retailers. [the rest deleted...] --- End of forwarded message --- [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMagnetic Matress Pad
List, (yes, this is off-topic). I would appreciate any reports of health benefits (or lack of them) by sleeping on mattress pads made with an array of strong magnets inside. Any explanations of how magnetic fields can cause health benefits (e.g. pain reduction) would also be welcomed. (I am inquiring about static magnetic fields, not zapper style pulsed fields). Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOle Bob's Constant Current CS Generator
I use 24 volt wall wart DC adapters, which, with the negligible load of a CS generator, put out about 30 volts. Of course, the constant current regulator automatically adjusts the voltage across the electrodes to maintain the constant current. I estimate after 24 hours with 5.5 #12 silver wires spaced about 2 inches, the PPM is around 12. I like the LM337s because they allow setting the current with a single resistor. The constant current diodes someone else mentioned work fine, but they are fixed current, cannot be adjusted, and cost a lot more than the LM337 does. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Nessie nes...@shaw.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Re: CSOle Bob's Constant Current CS Generator So: What is the voltage. What ppm... nessie.. SJY wrote: The LM337 IC is designed to be a constant current regulator. The advantage of using it vs a LM7805 is that one can run at much lower currents with the LM337. In my generator, I use an LM337 with a 330 ohm resistor, and that regulates the current to be 200 microamps (0.2 mA). Running this for 24 hours makes very high quality CS with tiny sized particles (barely perceptable Tyndall effect) along with the ions. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOle Bob's Constant Current CS Generator
The LM337 IC is designed to be a constant current regulator. The advantage of using it vs a LM7805 is that one can run at much lower currents with the LM337. In my generator, I use an LM337 with a 330 ohm resistor, and that regulates the current to be 200 microamps (0.2 mA). Running this for 24 hours makes very high quality CS with tiny sized particles (barely perceptable Tyndall effect) along with the ions. LM337 regulators are available from a number of electronic supply houses - I get mine from Jameco. They are not carried by Radio Shack. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:51 AM Subject: Re: CSOle Bob's Constant Current CS Generator What current? I typically use a 7805 with a resistor between the output of the device and the control, using the control as the output. Output current will be 5/R plus the control current. Marshall Dave Rogan wrote: Ole Bob made a constant current circuit for me a while back. I need to make another one but cannot find his plans online with google. Does anyone know where theplans are? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTrem..nebulizer.
Deb, These are similar to the ones that were sold by Walgrens Drug. They use a wick that contacts an ultrasonically vibrating plate with small holes in it to allow the liquid to be propelled through the plate into the air. When they work, they work well. My experience is that they sometimes fail are not particularly reliable. But for the price, you can get several probably at least one of them will last a long while. My only question was how well does CS migrate through the wick? Would the particles get partially filtered out while the ionic component would be unimpeded? --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Deborah Jacques debora...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: CSTrem..nebulizer. Has anyone tried or seen one of these? Junk or quality? http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Windchaser-Personal-Ultrasonic-Humidifier-GRAPHITE_W0QQitemZ4392796738QQcategoryZ71240QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks! Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAirbrush as nebulizer
Harbor Freight sells an airbrush compressor that works very nicely with their airbrush. It has a built-in regulator. It goes on sale every now and then for about $70. The HF airbrush also goes on sale occasionally for about $10. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: ransley rans...@atmc.net To: The Silverlist silver-list@eskimo.com; beck-blood-electrificat...@yahoogroups.com; colloidalsilv...@yahoogroups.com; silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: CSAirbrush as nebulizer I'm not telling anyone to do this. I'm just relating what I am doing. Remember, nothing in the way of equipment listed here is in any way approved for medical use. Compressor- a commonly available small OIL-LESS air compressor; these things are NOISY. Cost around $150. I bought the smallest lightest I could find at the time, since then I've seen a smaller one at Lowe's. Regulator- a commonly available subcompact air pressure line regulator. These regulators have trouble being reliably adjustable at below 20psi. These usually come on the compressor these days. Hose- standard black vinyl, red rubber, pvc or urethane air hose. Cheapest is all I need for this. I'm using the one that came with the compressor. Airbrush- Harbor Freight airbrush kit model 1500. Cost me $25 with shipping. HF is terminally slow with the cheapest shipping option. It took two weeks to get here and their distribution center is 100 miles away. Standard brass 1/4 quick disconnect fittings between the regulator and main hose, and between the main hose and the small airbrush hose in the kit. The kit comes with two glass bottles, I use the smaller one. The metal cup is useless for this purpose. Save the larger bottle in case the small one gets broken. At 15 psi, this airbrush puts a out a fine mist that appears to be every bit as fine as the mist form the nebulizer I've used for years. The main difference is that it is pressurized. A nebulizer chamber atomizes the liquid but disperses the pressure, so there is no pressure into the mouth. Disadvantage- makes me want to resist breathing it; Advantage- would be good if breathing were difficult. 20 psi is too much. This is not for a child to use unless an adult is controlling the trigger. There is an adjustment at the nose of the airbrush, keep it tight for finest mist. At 15psi, I have the option of closing my mouth around it or holding it out of my mouth and breathing the mist. The really big advantage is that this arrangement will conserve both the CS mixture and the air used. The compressor won't run nearly as much as with a nebulizer chamber since I am shutting the air off after every breath. This would be particularly advantageous if hooked it to a bottle of oxygen (with an oxy regulator!!!). If I have to stop, I don't have to get up and cut the air off, but of course that could be fixed on a nebulizer with a valve in-line close to me. Speaking of oxygen, you can buy small tanks with some metal cutting torch outfits. I came upon mine, brand new, because someone traded in one of those tanks for a larger one at my local welding shop. I bought the tank for $50. The trigger is a button on top that has a double action. You must depress it and pull it back to get full fog. If you don't pull it back you're only getting air. This was worth doing to me, but then I love playing with this kinda stuff. Guy Thing. Daddybob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMagnetized Water
Folks, I built a so-called water magnetizer and did some experiments. I used two very strong magnetron magnets (from microwave ovens). The North poles were facing each other on oposite side of a plastic bottle about 3 inches thick. I added room temperature filtered tap water and let it sit in the magnetic field overnight. I sloshed the water around a few times while it was being magnetized. Using two different ranges of pH paper, I measured the before and after pH of the water. Out of the tap it measured a bit below 7. The disappointing thing was that the after Magnetizing the water measured exactly the same - there was no change in pH. So, either my experimental technique is wrong, or the concept of magnetized water is a bunch of hooey. I am thinking the latter, but welcome your comments. I will make one more run with N S poles facing each other to see if makes any difference. As an aside, I have proven for myself that passing a DC current (10-12 ma) through plain tap water does result in a change in pH. I used two plastic containers with holes in each container with a porous membrane (artificial chamois) clamped between the holes. After an overnight run, the two containers that started with water with a pH of about 7 ended up about 8 (slightly alkaline) and 6 (slightly acid). However, after half an hour or so, both containers reverted back to being about 7 again. So, list members, what are the safe, economical ways to make stable alkaline water? Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers
Marshall, What is the pH of the water going into your Jupiter unit? I have noticed my Wallmart steam distilled water that I use for making CS has a pH of 6 or a little under. Anyone - what causes it to be acidic - absorbed C02? I would think steam distilled water would end up close to pH 7. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:19 AM Subject: Re: CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers Maybe it has to do with the water. Mine at the highest setting produces water of about 8. And everyone in my family has been drinking alkalinized water for about 3 years from the Jupiter unit now, and are all in good health. Can't say it is doing anything good or harmful though. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: Sorry, I should have written that the highest pH setting produced water that measured above pH of 10... Dan Re: CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers From: Dan Nave (view other messages by this author) Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:22:42 -- -- Re: CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers * From: SJY wrote: * Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 06:52:55 Dan, 2) I assume your Jupiter model had adjustable settings. Were you using the highest alkaline pH setting? Do you know the pH of the water you were drinking? --Steve Y. *** 2) Setting was highest. PH of over 8. Decreased to lowest settings as time went by. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers
Dan, Thanks for you interesting but disturbing results with the Jupiter water alkalizer. Since many people use water alkalizers, I am trying to reconcile why you had the bad experience. Please tell us if you can: 1) What was your body pH after drinking the alkaline water for a while? 2) I assume your Jupiter model had adjustable settings. Were you using the highest alkaline pH setting? Do you know the pH of the water you were drinking? 3) How much did you drink a day? 4) Besides the bad side effects, did you notice anything good? Anyone else - what has been your experience with ionized alkaline water? Thanks, --Steve Y. I have a Jupiter water ionizer and several of us used it for several months. Symptoms after a few months included dry and peeling skin, aggravation of psoriasis/eczema-like skin areas, drying and cracking of mucus membranes and rectal bleeding, general digestive upset. I did not think that it improved the taste of water, rather you could taste and feel that it was alkaline and not neutral. After a time we could not tolerate it even on the lowest settings. It did have a nice water filter with silver in it which we still use... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWater Ionizers / Alkalizers
Folks, I would appreciate anyone who has experience drinking alkaline water, produced by a commercial or home-made water ionizer, sharing their results. From what I read on the web, they are constructed something like a CS generator, but have a permeable membrane to keep the acid and alkaline water separated, the electrodes are typically titanium, and they cost a lot - over $500 usually. I suppose if one used silver electrodes, one could have the benefits of EIS as well as high pH water. Might this be the next advance in CS generators? Does anyone have plans for building one? Has anyone built their own, and if so, what are your results? Terry Chamberlain posted a website that had plans for one, but it was not a flow-through version, and I think there should be simpler designs and construction methods. Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSdose PPM, quantity frequency
Mike Monett others, It's interesting 20 us CS apparently didn't help with your mold problems, but 40 us did. What puzzles me is why double your 20 us dose wouldn't accomplish exactly the same thing? In other words, why shouldn't 2 ounces of 5 uS or PPM have exactly the same effect as 1 ounce of 10 uS or PPM? Does it have something to do with the rate of absorption per fluid ounce, and if it isn't strong enough, the body gets rid of it faster than it can accumulate to do some good? Comments anyone? As a general rule, I think all CS List posters should specify PPM (or uS), quantity and frequency of ingestion when they report the results produced. E.g. I drank 8 ounces of 10 PPM CS 6 times a day for 3 weeks and it cured my Lyme Disease, or whatever. Just saying you used 10 PPM CS doesn't tell the whole story. --Steve Y. SNIP Mike said: As you know, I have been suffering the effects of mold toxins for years. The 20us cs had no effect. I did some more experimenting and found a way to get higher ion concentration. A description is in the archives. I took my first dose on March 4. The symptoms gradually started disappearing, and now I am able to function like a human being once more, instead of spending days in bed. Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBody pH
I have been reading some things that suggest as we age, our systems tend to become more acidic, and this in turn makes our systems more vulnerable to disease (e.g. cancer) and eventually death. Some advocate ingesting foods or other organic or inorganic compounds to shift one's pH to be slightly alkaline. Has anyone had any experience alkalizing their bodies? For example, is anyone having good results with a product called Alkaline Body Balance, or others like it, to mitigate cancer or other medical problems? To keep it CS oriented, I would assume there would be no harm in taking products to increase body alkalinity (e.g. potassium or cesium salts) along with doses of Colloidal and Ionic Silver. Comments? --Steve Y. (circa 2000 on the list) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPyro-Energyn
All, I looked through the website to try to determine how the pyro-energyn device works. It appears to produce some sort of high voltage very low current output coupled to the body via bare feet on the device. Whether it is DC, AC, constant or variable frequency, pulsed, etc. I could not tell. How it can produce the seemingly miraculous claimed results is also not specified. The claim is that it works with negative static electricity. Taken literally, static means DC. Perhaps it is just a current limited negative high voltage supply of several thousand volts? In that case then perhaps the surface of the user becomes a large negative ion generator? If so, how in the world can that affect us internally, except through the inhalation of negatively charged air? But there are plenty of air ionizers used throughout the world with no significant attendant reduction in viral diseases. So, can anyone shed some details on the device? How and why does it work? Is it for real or another quack device to rob you of about $800 dollars? Seems like one could build a similar unit for considerably less cost, if one knew the electrical specifications of the output. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: Re: CSRE: Cancer Alternative treatments Laurie, You must look into getting this machine, the Pyro-energen. It was discovered by a Japanese MD and is now being manufactured in the US and Phillipines. It works through negative static electricity... absolutely no side effects but kills any and all virus in the body. It does not kill bacteria but most Leukemia is virus induced (even if ultimately caused by chemical exposure or radiation, this damages the cells/immune system that allows the virus to infect cellular DNA). One case cited cured his leukemia in ONE WEEK. http://www.pyroenergen.com/ Best of luck. Bob - Original Message - From: Laurie Bartlett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:40 AM Subject: CSRE: Cancer Alternative treatments Hi Mike, I am sorry for your loss. My dad has Leukemia that is in remission. Can you direct me to the search for alternative treatments? I would like to start now and hopefully be prepared if needed. Thanks so much. Laurie http://www.youravon.com/lbartlett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPMR
Anyone have any reliable information regarding treatments for polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR) besides the use of steroids (e.g. prednizone) and inflammation/pain reducers like ibuprofin? These control the pain but are not very effective in curing the problem. Most literature regarding PMR says the cause is unknown, and the cure seems to be the passage of time - perhaps 6 months to two years augmented by 5 to 10 mg daily doses of prednizone. Are there known useful alternative treatments, e.g. colloidal silver, that can speed recovery? Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCo-Q-10
All, My wife I have been taking Co-Q-10 for so long that we have forgotten why we do it! It is getting more expensive, and we are wondering why we should continue with it, or if there are other less expensive products that do the equivalent thing. I do remember that the body naturally produces this, and the amount it produces tapers off as we get older. Are their techniques to utilize more of the supplemental Co-Q-10, similar to mixing Gatorade with EIS? Yes, this is off-topic, so just a quick answer we can drop the thread. --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSColloidal silver/gold
Dear alchemists and chemists: 1) can gold and silver be alloyed together? 2) Would electrodes of Au/Ag alloy work in a low voltage DC constant current generator, or would only the silver go into the distilled water, and the gold would stay in the electrode? Anyone actually tried it and determined what mix of gold silver gets electrically isolated? Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRosacea
I have to respond. It (low doseage of antibiotic) absolutely DOES WORK, at least for me. If I quit taking it, I start having Rosacea symptoms again. Not all doctors are part of the medical mafia, just many of them. Your overly generalistic statements such as below, with no supporting facts or evidence, really don't serve any good purpose. This list is to inform and to provide specific helps to others, not serve as an outlet for one's personal unsubstantiated philosophies and pet peeves. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: himagain himag...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: Re: CSRosacea At 01:49 PM 26/11/04, Steve wrote: Putting a cloth or paper towel wetted with CS on the affected area for as long as you can helps a little bit. But much more effective is a cheap antibiotic, e.g. Doxycyclene. Dermatologists don't know the cause of Rosacea, and they don't know why antibiotics control it. They just know it works, so they prescribe it. That's what makes the Medical Mafia so frightening and people's acceptance even more so. It doesn't work, what happens is that, like many similar body distress symptoms, they go away. Every Medico knows his greatest ally is two weeks. First, you should take the safe, easy way out - find out *when* it occurs. That will lead you the why. Usually easy to track these things- a specific food/group eaten as a treat irregularly. A recurring event like the Mother-in-laws 3 monthly visit. etc Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRosacea
Putting a cloth or paper towel wetted with CS on the affected area for as long as you can helps a little bit. But much more effective is a cheap antibiotic, e.g. Doxycyclene. Dermatologists don't know the cause of Rosacea, and they don't know why antibiotics control it. They just know it works, so they prescribe it. Perform an experiment of gradually reducing the doseage to find the amount needed to keep the Rosacea from appearing. My personal experience is that 3 capsules a week is sufficient. The archives have some accounts of CS helping with psoriasis. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: MED redr...@hvc.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:51 AM Subject: CSRosacea Does anyone have any experience with CS and Rosacea and/or flaky dermatitis/psoriasis? Any comments would be appreciated. TIA M. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMegaHydrate
Just wondering what list member's current opinions are about the effectiveness of Patrick Flanagan's Silica Hydride products such as MegaHydrate (he keeps changing the name: aka Microhydrin, MegaHydrin, MegaH, etc.) These are allegedly the world's most potent anti-oxidants and sources of hydrogen for cells. (For those who have never heard of his products, there is some info at www.flantech.com.) To keep this barely within topic, any opinions on the good, bad or indifferent results of a combination of his product with CS/EIS? Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBrooks Bradley
Anyone had any recent contact with him or know of his prospects for returning as a list participant? --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAnti-inflammatory helps
As best I can determine, CS is not very effective in helping with joint inflammation pain (e.g. from arthritis). But recently I read that the spice turmeric and an extract from it called curcumin have anti-inflammatory properties, allegedly due to their anti-histamine properties. Has anyone had experience using turmeric or curcumin (powder or capsules) to help with sore joints? If so, what were the results? Any other ideas for a natural treatment for arthritis? (This is a bit off-topic, so replies directly to me are fine). Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMy startling allergy discovery
Daddybob, I, maybe other list members, must have missed your report on sleeping on a Crock Device. What is it, what does it do, etc.? Thanks, --Steve - Original Message - From: ransley rans...@atmc.net To: The Silverlist silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:31 PM Subject: CSMy startling allergy discovery I've reported on several forums for a couple of years now about how I've beaten most of my allergies with MSM, Bragg Vinegar, and local raw honey; I' ve also reported how sleeping on a Crock Device has generally kept my sinuses clear of nearly everything else. What I haven't reported is that there have been a very few but very notable exceptions of allergy attacks that have occurred mostly at night that I had not the foggiest notion of a cause. I've finally nailed it down. It has taken 3 distinct and memorable attacks and one instant of blinding realization, but I've got this thing hammered down now: It is CORN! CORN CORN CORN CORN CORN! I won't try to bore everyone with all of the specific details of the three attacks, all of which have happened within the last two months. I'll try to keep this to the essentials. I have generally avoided corn for about 2 years as part of trying to lower my carb intake, and as part of realizing that whole grains in general are not good at all for me and my metabolic type, and that modern grains bear little resemblance to the foods our ancestors ate. But, I am a child of the American South, and avoiding corn altogether here is dang near impossible. Why who ever heard of such a stupid thing; corn being bad for you. I grew up on corn, corn soup, corn on the cob, creamed corn, cornmeal mush, cornbread, hushpuppies (deep fried corn meal fritters for you non-southerners), and grits. My grandparents would roll over in their graves if they knew what I'm saying. At this time I think grits are not at fault. Grits are ground hominy, which is corn denuded of its bran and germ by a lye soak. I think it's the germ, not the starchy insides of the kernel, to which I'm allergic. Anyway, grits are nutritionally worthless, and I rarely eat them these days. But there it is, without going into all the details, I've found that I am very badly allergic to corn. This goes a long way towards explaining my 17 years of chronic sinusitis, and may explain some of my lapses of health in the past 5 years of recovery. Just this past late winter I had 2 months of sickness that I just could not understand. I have stated on these forums that I thought it was because I got slack with all of my various health routines. Now however, I distinctly remember going through a period of eating corn chips back then. Could it be that I unwittingly set myself up for all of that sickness with my appetite? To all of you who are dealing with allergies, you've got something else to consider now. It may be what you're eating as much or more than what you're breathing. Daddybob, a corn eater no more. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFiltering CS
Terry, Just let the particulates settle to the bottom - you might have to first stir to break surface tension if they are floating on the surface. Then just carefully decant off the clear liquid and dump out the liquid solid stuff at the bottom. Filtering often adds more stuff then it takes out unless you have very good filter media (coffee filters seem to introduce chemicals into your brew - recommend not using them). --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: CSFiltering CS I would like to clarify an issue I read about here before I got a CS generator, but can't recall the consensus. Now that I'm making my own CS (Silvergen SG6), if I get above about halfway on the setting (roughly 5 ppm), I get gray particulates floating in the otherwise clear liquid (sometimes I even get a few at 5 ppm). Should I filter these out (via a coffee filter or some other type of filter), or is it okay to leave these in the CS and consume them? Thanks, Terry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 7/16/2004 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Useful current limit circuit
All, White LEDs are especially good indicators at low currents. I have built LED flashlights that are always idling at about 30 microamps (0.03 milliamps) so that they are clearly visible in a darkened room and can be found easily. A white LED should be quite noticible at 0.2 ma. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Dave Lewis dave.le...@qualityelectronicdesigns.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 9:22 AM Subject: RE: CS Useful current limit circuit Hi Wayne, current to just under 1ma, but if you change the value of R1, you should be able to set the current to what you like (within reason!). Nice circuit, nice drawing. Thanks. Electronics is what we do for a living. One question. Have you checked the brilliance of the LED at that low current? Likely some of the smaller ones will work fine. Most LED's will light dimly at this current. When I did my tests on the de-ionised water at 0.2ma, you could see the led lit very dimly. It was quite a bit brighter when the test stopped at 0.8ma -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLarger Volumes of CS for Fungus Control
Wayne, An alternate method to make larger quantities of CS is the continuous flow method, wherein distilled water slowly flows through a generation chamber and out into whatever storage container you want. I have no details on how to construct such a device, but I believe years ago it was described and you might find something in the archives. --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wfug...@direcway.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:05 PM Subject: CSLarger Volumes of CS for Fungus Control The wet and cloudy weather creates fungus problems with my plants, especially tomatoes. I would like to make, 2, 3 or 5 gallons per batch. I can fabricate the electrodes and voltages in virtually any fashion. The problem and question relates to the containers. I have no large glass containers. Seems when I quit wine making, I gave away all my 5 gallon glass containers. I have plastic containers or all sizes, 5, 15, 25, 55 gallons and larger. What would be the effect of making CS in a 5 gallon or 15 gallon plastic containers? I suppose I could do multiple gallon glass the way Terry does it. Still, I rather have one large container with a spigot of the bottom. Any ideas or suggestions such are voltages and electrodes appreciated. For the electrodes, I was planning to wind a coil of silver wire. I buy 100 feet at a time. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSteve Jackie Young Email Change
Friends, We have changed our email address to youngst...@konnections.net We will be discontinuing you...@konnections.net soon. Note to update, just add ters after youngs. We are indundated with all manner of undesirable Spam, thus the change. Please be careful with the use of our new email address so it doesn't become available to spammers. Thanks, Steve Jackie Young -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
