Re: CS>If You Absolutely Must Vaccinate Against Covid-19 Out of Fear or Coercion, Hold Out for This Already Proven Vaccine - LewRockwell

2021-03-25 Thread Terry Ward
Do youreally believe you’re convincing anyone of anything, or making a 
contribution in any way with your insults and name calling? 

> On Mar 25, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
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> Congrats to the DUMMY you are a ticking time bomb people are dying daily 
> after these shots from hell ...you are WILLYFULLY IGNORANT
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021, 05:52:02 PM EDT, Cyndiann Phillips 
>  wrote:
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> I got mine. I was not afraid nor was I coerced. I was smart!
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> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 9:33 AM Gmail  > wrote:
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> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/03/no_author/if-you-absolutely-must-vaccinate-against-covid-19-out-of-fear-or-coercion-hold-out-for-this-already-proven-vaccine/
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> Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Lord Acton
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2021-03-25 Thread Terry Ward



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Re: CS>SOLUTION to trolls: Join the New Group

2021-02-20 Thread Terry Ward
The Constitution guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from 
restricting the press or the rights of individuats to speak freely. It 
guarantees no such freedom of expression with respect to privately 
owned/operated businesses, websites, etc.

And you were disagreeing with Nenah, not denigrating her (a la “Cyndiann”).


> On Feb 20, 2021, at 4:04 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:


> 
> Except this is not your home, Nenah... it is a public forum and as long as 
> she is not inciting to violence she has a voice here... just like you do.  
> You get to choose how you take comments.  
> 
> If that is what you took from my comment about saner people then you have a 
> problem... not me or Cyndiann.  After all you are the one trying to throw her 
> out of the group Are you going to do that to me also because I don't 
> agree with you?   Like I said "totalitarian state"!
> PT
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> On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 05:44:58 PM EST, Nenah Sylver 
>  wrote:
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> PT wrote: Actually, all Cyndiann is doing is exercising her right to free 
> speech.  It is guaranteed by the Constitution!  And you want to throw her out 
> just because of that . . . what you describe is the same as a 
> totalitarian state... 'Think like we do or we'll throw you out!'  Really? 
> Thank goodness there are also saner people on this list!
> 
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> PT,
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> There's a huge difference between expressing an opinion and denigrating 
> others because of *their* opinions.
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> There's a way to express an opinion with respect without resorting to name 
> calling (as when you called me, by inference, "not as sane as other people").
> 
>  
> If someone comes into my home and hurls insults and negativity, I ask them to 
> leave. It's very simple.
> 
>  
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Re: CS>Mindless Mask Mandates Likely Do More Harm Than Good -

2021-02-18 Thread Terry Ward
"He is an osteopath, so he should be sticking to massage and physical 
manipulation.” 

I’m not a fan of Mercola by any means, but your understanding of DO training 
and functions is extremely dated.

> On Feb 18, 2021, at 1:43 PM, Lynn Greene  wrote:
> 
> I have been following Mercola for years. He is an osteopath, so he should be 
> sticking to massage and physical manipulation. He creates his own overpriced 
> products. Many of them are cut with cheap fillers. He occasionally has new 
> ideas, but he also recommends many unproven remedies and ideas, some of which 
> have been proven to be snake oil. I rarely look on his site these days since 
> his theories are so wacky - right up there with Dr Oz. Since Mercola pays for 
> his own advertising, he is not regulated and can say and do as he likes. If 
> you send him any message that anything he says is not correct, as in the case 
> of an aromatherapist with extensive education and practice, he will not 
> correct his mistake. Beware of Dr Axe, too, since he does all he can to make 
> poor, cheap "essential oils”. 
> 
> Also, if masks did not work, the experiment in the 1900’s would have made 
> surgical teams in hospitals look especially silly. They work, and it is the 
> norm in hospitals
> or hospitals would be the most unsafe places in the world. 
> 
> On a personal level, my husband and I have not had a cold or flu during all 
> this time of mask wearing. Usually we get two or three during a year, 
> sometimes more. Collectively we have
> COPD, heart problems and asthma, as well as shingles.
> 
> Dr Abram Hoffer wrote over 30 books on niacin (nicotinic acid - must be the 
> flushing kind) and has a protocol in his book listed below for shingles which 
> includes 2 grams of lysine, and the lysine is a powerful antiviral.
> (book: Niacin, the Real Story). CS has also been powerful, and Lipospheric C. 
> 
> Lynn
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>> On Feb 18, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Gmail > > wrote:
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>> Read carefully-
>> https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/02/joseph-mercola/mindless-mask-mandates-likely-do-more-harm-than-good/
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>> The brutal reality is that the dollar was worth 1/40th ounce of gold fifty 
>> years ago and now is worth 1/1,900th ounce of gold. Someday, perhaps soon, 
>> it will be worth 1/10,000th ounce of gold.
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Re: CS>Covid Nasal Spray -- anti-Covid ACTIVE Ingredient -- similar to CS (Colloid of Silver)

2020-12-14 Thread Terry Ward
> "A mask is easy to do and saves your life…”

Right, because no one who wore a mask has ever died from Covid.

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:
> 
> A mask is easy to do and saves your life, could stop you from getting others 
> infected. I have COPD so it's hard to breathe at all but I manage to wear 
> one. It's just stupid to not do something that easy.
> 
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:43 AM Shelby  > wrote:
> Well this would be good news. I don’t want to take the vaccine but I am in a 
> profession that may be forced. Since I like to pay bills and eat and all that 
> other good stuff I am in a situation. However, I carry an epi pen and an 
> inhaler. I have had anaphylaxis over the years to several things and even 
> some we couldn’t pin point. From the current reports in the UK, I may be 
> excused for now from the vaccine. I would think they would issue us some sort 
> of vaccine record to prove we have had it. They wouldn’t just take our word 
> for it. I wouldn’t mind doing a nasal spray as much if I had to keep my job. 
> However, I put CS in a nasal spray bottle when I go out and I put it in a 
> nebulizer at home. So far I have been fine. I would like to thing the CS has 
> been keeping me healthy because I have gone most place I want to and I have 
> had and been to gatherings. I have flown on a plane and taken a train half 
> way across the country. I have been dancing a few times and I don’t wear a 
> mask unless requested by the store.
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> Shelby
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> From: Douglas Haack mailto:douglasha...@yahoo.com>> 
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 10:39 PM
> To: Silver-List mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
> Cc: Kym Borrett mailto:k...@starscribe.com>>
> Subject: CS>Covid Nasal Spray -- anti-Covid ACTIVE Ingredient -- similar to 
> CS (Colloid of Silver)
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> .. a great bioenergetics answer to the recent complex discussion about 
> vaccines and the question of whether they can prevent the initial infection 
> from a coronavirus. Medical researchers at Columbia University have come up 
> with the answer in the form of a nasal spray. Specifically, it is a 
> intranasal fusion inhibitory lipopeptide that prevents direct contact 
> SARS-CoV-2 transmission as reported on bioRiv: DOI: 10.1101/2020.11.04.361154 
> 
>  Similar to colloidal silver spray, it may prevent infection in people 
> exposed to the new coronavirus, since it blocks the usual pathway for the 
> virus to enter the body. “People who cannot be vaccinated or do not develop 
> immunity will particularly benefit from the spray. The antiviral is easily 
> administered and, based on the scientists’ experience with other respiratory 
> viruses, protection would be immediate and last for at least 24 hours. The 
> scientists hope to rapidly advance the preventative approach to human trials 
> with the goal of containing transmission during this pandemic.”
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Re: CS>Former Chief Science Officer for Pfizer Says "Second Wave" Faked on False-Positive COVID Tests, "Pandemic is Over" | HubPages

2020-10-22 Thread Terry Ward
50/50 chance the person who died received a placebo.

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
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> Person Dies In COVID Vaccine Trial & More Experts Speak Out On The Efficacy 
> Of Masks/Lockdowns 
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> On Thursday, October 22, 2020, 12:44:18 PM EDT, Gmail 
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> https://hubpages.com/politics/Pfizer-Chief-Science-Officer-Second-Wave-Based-on-Fake-Data-of-False-Positives-for-New-Cases-Pandemic-is-Over
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Re: CS>Keep info coming

2020-10-19 Thread Terry Ward
He did pull out of WHO. Do you think it’s possible he felt the money would be 
better spent partnering with more than 25 heads of state and 50 leaders of 
international agencies, NGOs and private industry to develop a vaccine? I do.


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:50 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> Exactly!! Trump SAID he pulled out of WHO and turned around and gave GAVI 
> ...which is Bill Gates ..over a BILLION dollars.
> 
> On Monday, October 19, 2020, 02:33:56 PM EDT, Gmail  
> wrote:
> 
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> WHO is a pack of Agenda 21 one worlders financed by Gates and Soros. Do some 
> research. Lying Ba#$&@ds.
> 
> If you think your thoughts are your own, think again. —Black Mirror
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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 1:23 PM, PT Ferrance  > wrote:
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>> There is another Dr. Richard Bartlett.  You might want to do some research 
>> so people will be able to discern between them.
>> PT
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>> On Monday, October 19, 2020, 12:57:50 PM EDT, Cyndiann Phillips 
>> mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
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>> Make sure you pass this on too.
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>> But in the viral video, Bartlett dubiously suggests the medication is 
>> already being used so widely as to keep COVID-19 fatalities low in Taiwan, 
>> Japan, Singapore and Iceland. “They’re doing what I’m doing … an inhaled 
>> steroid,” he claims.
>> The WHO, in a statement provided to FactCheck.org , 
>> said “there is no evidence suggesting that inhaled corticosteroid have 
>> reduced case fatality rate in Taiwan, Japan, Singapore, and Iceland.”
>> DEBUNKING FALSE STORIES
>> Asthma Medicine Not Proven as COVID-19 ‘Cure’
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/asthma-medicine-not-proven-as-covid-19-cure/
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>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:25 AM p c > > wrote:
>>> Invaluable info about Dr Richard Bartlett. I will be passing on to my 
>>> doctor.  Thank you.  And James - thank you. 
>>> Thanks to this list, I have learned many things- one was about LDN.  Praise 
>>> God we have people on this list that are knowledgeable and share 
>>> information and protocols. 
>>> 
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Re: CS>Re: L-Tryptophan

2020-06-20 Thread Terry Ward
Aye, mate :)

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Neville Munn  wrote:
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> A rather large  on that.
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> N
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> From: Terry Ward mailto:slickpic...@cox.net>>
> Sent: Sunday, 21 June 2020 5:10 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> 
> mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: L-Tryptophan
>  
> "Most reporters actually want the truth out there but have been trashed so 
> often by conservatives only because they don't want us to know reality.”
> 
> Bwahahahaha…hahaha…hahaha…
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> 
>> On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Cyndiann Phillips > <mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Most reporters actually want the truth out there but have been trashed so 
>> often by conservatives only because they don't want us to know reality.



Re: CS>Re: L-Tryptophan

2020-06-20 Thread Terry Ward
That’s about how long I’ve been this list as well, and I couldn’t agree more.

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> I have been on this list for 20 years, and have never read a statement more 
> insane than 
> “Most reporters want the truth out there”
> This conversation needs to be on the off-topic list.
> 
> Man is born free; and everywhere he is in chains.  Jean-Jacques Rousseau, 1762
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> On Jun 20, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Terry Ward  <mailto:slickpic...@cox.net>> wrote:
> 
>> "Most reporters actually want the truth out there but have been trashed so 
>> often by conservatives only because they don't want us to know reality.”
>> 
>> Bwahahahaha…hahaha…hahaha…
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>>> On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Cyndiann Phillips >> <mailto:cyndi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Most reporters actually want the truth out there but have been trashed so 
>>> often by conservatives only because they don't want us to know reality.
>> 



Re: CS>Re: L-Tryptophan

2020-06-20 Thread Terry Ward
"Most reporters actually want the truth out there but have been trashed so 
often by conservatives only because they don't want us to know reality.”

Bwahahahaha…hahaha…hahaha…






> On Jun 20, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Cyndiann Phillips  wrote:
> 
> Most reporters actually want the truth out there but have been trashed so 
> often by conservatives only because they don't want us to know reality.



Re: CS>free ebook / Vaccines / Detoxing with CS

2020-06-06 Thread Terry Ward
Nenah, thank you for your rational message.


> On Jun 6, 2020, at 3:08 PM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:
> 
> Deborah Gerard wrote: Government always creates the problem then offers the 
> solution. You think our government has our best interests at heart you better 
> think again...Monsanto poisoning our food supply...soon coming wicked 
> 5G...chemtrails that are loading us up with heavy metals...this wicked new 
> vaccine that Trump will employ 1,000,000 troops to force on us? Come on wake 
> the heck up.
> ===
> Deborah,
>  
> To try and put your mind at ease: I don't think that the mandatory 
> vaccination agenda will happen. I have seen pages of Trump's tweets going 
> back all the way to the year 2012. He has never been pro-vaccine; he's said 
> things like "That poor kid got vaccinated, and now he's autistic" and 
> "Vaccines aren't safe."
>  
> A friend pointed out to me that I have to listen carefully to what he says 
> about vaccines: "They must be safe." I emphasize the word "safe." We know 
> that vaccines haven't been proven to be safe. This way, he's putting the 
> burden of proof of safety onto the vaccine manufacturers.
>  
> People won't stand for it.
>  
> Onto a different topic . . . A few weeks ago I had the flu. After drinking 
> two quarts of CS in two days I felt a lot better. Recently I started taking a 
> supplement that's causing a lot of detox reactions in me. I've been feeling 
> very ill with a sore throat. The solution to this is the same: I'm drinking 
> CS. It works!
>  
> Nenah
>  
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>  
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Re: CS>Making EIS

2020-03-05 Thread Terry Ward
You’re a nasty, insulting piece of work. Good bye.

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> Putting the pieces of the puzzle in place that is how!! Trump is pushing 
> vaccines and 5G, doing nothing to stop Monsanto from poisoning the hell out 
> of our food...not stopping chem-trails that are loading us up with heavy 
> metals..standing with the most wicked nation on the planet vile Israel our 
> troops will die in Iran for NOTHING but Israel to go in and steal their oil. 
> Those in power in Israel hate Christ practice sodomy and go by the Satanic 
> Talmud not the Bible and by the way Trump is all trained in Kabbalah says so 
> in his book. You want to play stupid and trust in any gov't you go for it but 
> he works for the NWO so get over yourself.
> 
> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 03:25:40 PM EST, Terry Ward  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> And that reflects his affinity for a NWO how?
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Deborah Gerard > <mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> For those who have a memory Trump created the FEMA Text alert...he also 
>> signed the executive order for DNA based vaccines back in September...what 
>> he says and what he does are totally opposite like any other politician.
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 01:15:12 PM EST, Terry Ward > <mailto:slickpic...@cox.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Trump is pro-NWO? LOL
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Deborah Gerard >> <mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We know their goal is to bring the NWO what a mess this is doing. Expect 
>>> your FEMA Text from Trump when Medical or Martial Law is bought in.
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 01:02:45 AM EST, Neville Munn 
>>> mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> G'day Dan.
>>> I've read a few articles about this COVID thing ("They" can always come up 
>>> with some name).  The shops are running out of toilet paper as fast as they 
>>> fill the shelves..LOL.  This is what happens when the media starts a panic, 
>>> even the bloody Governments are creating panic among the people.
>>> 
>>> I heard it was a respiratory thing, then I heard it was an intestinal 
>>> thing?  Intestinal bug will be easy to treat with our stuff.  Even if 
>>> respiratory, Nebulizing  it would/should take it out anyway.  Of course, 
>>> the populous will never know because it won't be tested and made public 
>>> with the media and the Establishment agenda. (Opinion)
>>> 
>>> People today are so drugged up with so many medications that the immune 
>>> system hasn't stand a chance. (Just another personal observation and 
>>> opinion)
>>> 
>>> N.
>>> 
>>> From: Dan Nave mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2020 2:25 PM
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> 
>>> mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
>>> Subject: CS>Making EIS
>>>  
>>> Got out the old SilverPuppy and started cranking out colloidal silver.  
>>> Almost set for the COVID-19 pandemic...
>> 
> 



Re: CS>Making EIS

2020-03-05 Thread Terry Ward
And that reflects his affinity for a NWO how?

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> For those who have a memory Trump created the FEMA Text alert...he also 
> signed the executive order for DNA based vaccines back in September...what he 
> says and what he does are totally opposite like any other politician.
> 
> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 01:15:12 PM EST, Terry Ward  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Trump is pro-NWO? LOL
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Deborah Gerard > <mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> We know their goal is to bring the NWO what a mess this is doing. Expect 
>> your FEMA Text from Trump when Medical or Martial Law is bought in.
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 01:02:45 AM EST, Neville Munn 
>> mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> G'day Dan.
>> I've read a few articles about this COVID thing ("They" can always come up 
>> with some name).  The shops are running out of toilet paper as fast as they 
>> fill the shelves..LOL.  This is what happens when the media starts a panic, 
>> even the bloody Governments are creating panic among the people.
>> 
>> I heard it was a respiratory thing, then I heard it was an intestinal thing? 
>>  Intestinal bug will be easy to treat with our stuff.  Even if respiratory, 
>> Nebulizing  it would/should take it out anyway.  Of course, the populous 
>> will never know because it won't be tested and made public with the media 
>> and the Establishment agenda. (Opinion)
>> 
>> People today are so drugged up with so many medications that the immune 
>> system hasn't stand a chance. (Just another personal observation and opinion)
>> 
>> N.
>> 
>> From: Dan Nave mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2020 2:25 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> 
>> mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
>> Subject: CS>Making EIS
>>  
>> Got out the old SilverPuppy and started cranking out colloidal silver.  
>> Almost set for the COVID-19 pandemic...
> 



Re: CS>Making EIS

2020-03-05 Thread Terry Ward
Trump is pro-NWO? LOL

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> We know their goal is to bring the NWO what a mess this is doing. Expect your 
> FEMA Text from Trump when Medical or Martial Law is bought in.
> 
> On Thursday, March 5, 2020, 01:02:45 AM EST, Neville Munn 
> mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> G'day Dan.
> I've read a few articles about this COVID thing ("They" can always come up 
> with some name).  The shops are running out of toilet paper as fast as they 
> fill the shelves..LOL.  This is what happens when the media starts a panic, 
> even the bloody Governments are creating panic among the people.
> 
> I heard it was a respiratory thing, then I heard it was an intestinal thing?  
> Intestinal bug will be easy to treat with our stuff.  Even if respiratory, 
> Nebulizing  it would/should take it out anyway.  Of course, the populous will 
> never know because it won't be tested and made public with the media and the 
> Establishment agenda. (Opinion)
> 
> People today are so drugged up with so many medications that the immune 
> system hasn't stand a chance. (Just another personal observation and opinion)
> 
> N.
> 
> From: Dan Nave mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2020 2:25 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
> mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
> Subject: CS>Making EIS
>  
> Got out the old SilverPuppy and started cranking out colloidal silver.  
> Almost set for the COVID-19 pandemic...



Re: CS>Vaccination or No Vaccination

2020-01-30 Thread Terry Ward
There is no vaccine for the novel coronavirus at this point. They’ve just now 
deciphered the genetic structure.

> On Jan 30, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:
> 
> No you read right...I have read that too.
> 
> On Thursday, January 30, 2020, 01:55:20 PM EST, phoenix23...@tds.net 
>   > wrote:
> 
> 
> I think I just read that Bill Gates and his organization own the patent on 
> this new
> virus making headlines at the moment?  Maybe I misread?
> Lola
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Phil Morrison  >
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:27:41 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: CS>Vaccination or No Vaccination
> 
> 
> "World Health Organization and UNICEF, which issued a joint statement 
> admitting the vaccine is causing polio."
> 
> "Polio vaccines are often cited as a success story proving that vaccines work 
> to eliminate infectious disease. In truth, nearly all the cases of polio in 
> the modern world are caused by polio vaccines themselves."
> 
> https://yournews.com/2019/10/09/1242040/who-says-polio-outbreak-in-the-philippines-caused-by-polio/
>  
> 


Re: CS>Vaccination or no vaccination

2020-01-29 Thread Terry Ward
A (Harvard med school educated) dermatologist told me he would never take a flu 
shot. He was leaving the clinic where I was a patient to take over the private 
practice of dermatologist who became permanently disabled  (Epstein-Barr virus) 
as a result of receiving flu shots.

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 1:28 PM, V  wrote:
> 
> It isn't that I think vaccines are bad i discovered they are bad. Watching 
> babies i know personally and my own affected badly shortly after. Then 
> because of those observances, doing a lot of reading from many sources. 
> I cant imagine anyone looking deeply into the issue accepting any of them. 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, Ron  > wrote:
> Why would one NEED a vaccine?
> 
> On 1/28/2020 8:42 PM, Steve G wrote:
>> Well,  I almost never get sick, so it is generally not an issue for me.  
>> Except due to my age, I'm considered susceptible to a lot of things, so my 
>> doc wants me to get flu vax, shingles, pneumonia, and something else... I 
>> forget.  I did take a flu vax last week when Iwas in the hospital for my 
>> heart attack.  Absolutely no repercussions.
>> 
>> I have never been vaccinated for whooping cough.  I had this full blown 
>> disease when I was four around 1957.So I guess there was no need after 
>> that.   But that was over 60 years ago.   Does anyone know whether I should 
>> get whooping cough vaccinated after so many years?
>> 
>> Regardless, I get the feeling that many of the people on this list think 
>> that vaccines are bad.   I am not one of those people.  
>> 
>> So, to answer YOUR question, if my doctor's office was insisting I really 
>> needed some particular vaccination, I'd go for it.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 09:55:57 AM EST, Bernadette Burch 
>>   wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I am jumping into the conversation a little late.
>> 
>>  I refuse all the offered vaccines, no flu vacs, no pneumonia vacs, no 
>> shingle vacs, etc., .  They never argue with me.  I had a nurse say “we have 
>> to ask you if you want them, but between you and me, we think you are right 
>> to refuse them”.  
>> 
>> I did, however, accept the whooping cough vaccination, considering my 
>> daughter said “no whooping cough vaccine, no holding your new 
>> granddaughter”.  This was a no brainer.  
>> 
>> Bernadette
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Nenah Sylver  
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Reid wrote: Can others on the list please tell me, how do you respond (or 
>> not) when the doctor's staff tell you you really, really need that 
>> vacination. I'm inclined to tell them I'll only do this if I were to be 
>> barred from further appointments. Am I being unreasonable or are they?
>> 
>>  
>> Marshall wrote: We just say no.  If they can't accept that, then we change 
>> doctors.
>> 
>>  
>> =
>> 
>> I agree. We are paying for their services and aren't obligated to make them 
>> happy. They are supposed to abide by what we want, not vice-versa. I would 
>> never consent to being bullied like that.
>> 
>>  
>> Nenah
>> 
>>  
>> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>> 
>>  
>> author, The Rife Handbook
>> 
>> of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health:
>> 
>> an integrated approach for cancer and other diseases
>> 
>> NEW 5th Edition
>> 
>> www.nenahsylver.com  
>> 
>>  
>> NEW! See my EarthRiches Etsy shop:
>> 
>> https://www.etsy.com/shop/EarthRiches 
>> Beautiful, handmade, one-of-a-kind items from
>> 
>> semiprecious stones for healing and enrichment
>> 
>>  
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 



Re: CS>Silver, Stem Cells and the work of DR Robert O Becker PHD -- a post I made to a friend of mine THIS AM

2019-10-20 Thread Terry Ward
I see that there’s a holding site for silverlist on groups.io 
: 

https://groups.io/g/silverlist 

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:26 PM, MaryAnn Helland  wrote:
> 
> As Yahoogroups is discontinuing all chat groups and deleting all files, 
> photos, etc. -- is there someone who can contact Mike and let him know that 
> within a week, this will all be gone?
> 
> I've heard that most groups are migrating to Groups.io. -- and that the 
> transition is easy.  
> 
> Anyone
> 
> On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 12:00:19 PM CDT, Sandee George  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You may like to investigate a company called Life Wave in my view they have 
> gone a step further in bringing to us what we have forgotten with age of time 
> - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY0TlQ0ntkI 
> 
> Peace, love, good health, blessings & hugs to you all 
> Sandee
> An Attitude of Gratitude is Everything
> oha...@juno.com  & or 
> san...@spiceisle.com 
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products Topical Gel & Eye Drops
> 



Re: CS>Does anyone know this product?

2019-01-04 Thread Terry Ward
Agreed. There doesn’t seem to be much in the way of significant recent 
developments (personal, industrial, governmental, et al) regarding silver, and 
perhaps the information/benefits that are already known have reached most of 
the subscribers to this list.

Terry

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:36 PM, MaryAnn Helland  wrote:
> 
> Not that I know of.  And your question makes me so sad because the 
> Silver-List used to be a happenin' place.  :-(
> 
> On Friday, January 4, 2019, 12:35:54 PM CST, Jean Baugh 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi MA,
> 
> I understand and thank you for this information.
> 
> Do they have an EIS list that is better than the Colloidal Silver list?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Jean
> 
> *
>> On Jan 4, 2019, at 8:12 AM, MaryAnn Helland > <mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Jean -- EIS stands for Electrically Isolated Silver, another (and some think 
>> a more appropriate) name for Colloidal Silver.
>> MA
>> 
>> On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 9:17:40 PM CST, Jean Baugh 
>> mailto:oldgloryte...@srcaccess.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi PT,
>> 
>> What is EIS?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Jean
>> 
>> **
>>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:22 PM, PT Ferrance >> <mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,  I make lotions and recently it occurred to me to use EIS as part of 
>>> the water part of the lotion.
>>> Then a friend recommended this product...  
>>> https://lotioncrafter.com/collections/preservatives/products/silverion-2400-tinosan-sdc
>>>  
>>> <https://lotioncrafter.com/collections/preservatives/products/silverion-2400-tinosan-sdc>
>>> 
>>> I have never heard of mixing citric acid and EIS.  Does anyone know of a 
>>> down side?
>>> Thanks.
>>> PT
>>> 
>> 
> 



Re: CS>EIS SALVE

2019-01-01 Thread Terry Ward
PT - I found this email exchange from 2009, when Tel was responding to an 
inquiry from Beth. It’s by no means comprehensive, but it might shed a little 
light on your question.

Terry

~

Bethany,
Your on the right track, Keep trying and asking.

 I use organic Bee's Wax for a stabilizer. If you choose The bee's Wax you need 
to cook it in and start with a small amounts, Cook it means to use a Doubler 
Broiler pan (water in the bottom pan,) bring to low heat and melt the wax, you 
must stay with it and not over cook it, I mix all my ingredients in after the 
wax melts, (that will sorta harden the wax for a while) but it will melt fast 
now that it has broken down,  you must keep stirring it, sounds like a lot of 
work but it is awesome. Most people can cure cold sores in one day, and use on  
cuts, Itch, bites, scratches, scrapes, any skin problem. (You don't want to 
start with a big batch)  I don't have it on my website because I can't keep up 
with my local customers.
 Don't use my name, "Super Silver Salve," I like a soft salve myself.
(Super Silver Salve)

Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com <http://www.quailwoodherbal.com/>
Dewey, AZ.

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Bethany Methven mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

From: Bethany Methven mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com>>
Subject: CS>silver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:36 AM


I am trying to do some research about making a silver first aid gel.  I am 
thinking of mixing coconut oil ( an excellent antiviral) and base, vitamin E,  
aloe vera gel and approx. 15 - 20 ppm ionic/ colloidal silver.  I would love 
any feed back from you all about that.  Any ideas of things to add, percentages 
in the mix, etc? 
 
Thanks - Beth
~~~


> On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:47 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> 
> It was great but I just have a little bit left and would like to make some 
> since Tel crossed over.
> PT
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, December 31, 2018, 10:20:48 PM EST, Jean Baugh 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi PT, 
> 
> I don’t know but have a question for you; was it good?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Jean
> 
> **
>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 8:38 PM, PT Ferrance > <mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYONE.
>> 
>> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TEL USED TO MAKE HIS COLLOIDAL SILVER SALVE?
>> THANKS.
>> PT
>> 
> 



Re: CS>Removal Request

2018-05-09 Thread Terry Ward
I corresponded with Marlys years ago, shortly after I was dx’d with prostate 
cancer. I just wanted to say that she was very kind.


> On May 9, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Alan Isaacson  > wrote:
> 
> Please remove Marlys Isaacson patriot2...@cox.net 
>  from your email lists.  She is deceased.
> Thank you,
> Alan Isaacson



Re: CS>Fwd: 15 April - Article on Colloidal Silver

2018-04-17 Thread TERRY WARD
I'm sure the profit motive influences certain research and drug development 
decisions, but I haven't seen a cure for cancer coming out of socialism or 
communism either.

> On April 17, 2018 at 5:17 PM Neville  wrote:
> 
> It's funny isn't it, all those so called 'Academics', the Medical 
> Fraternity, the WHO, the AMA, the Pharmaceutical Industry and all the other 
> white coats put fancy names/numbers blah blah on their next best treatment to 
> keep that money wheel turning into more billions, and expecting people to 
> keep throwing money at them, when *some* of the people have actually read 
> material way before these idiots new how silver works.  Bjorn Nordenstrom, Dr 
> Robert O Becker, Royal Rife, Henry Crooks and other past researches who are 
> now dead, and forgotten, to name a few. It's such a HUGE finance Industry 
> supporting thousands of people around this planet turning billions of dollars 
> to keep Cancer 'treatments' going, and they have the audacity to keep 
> standing on street corners holding a hat out trying to entice people to toss 
> money into it.  Their is not one researcher alive on this planet who actually 
> is able/allowed to find *TRUE CURES* for Cancer due to someone else's agenda. 
>  But that's Capitalism I guess, it's all about the money, not about the 
> people, never has been.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> From: Sandee George 
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2018 6:06 AM
> To: Mike Devour - Silver List
> Subject: CS>Fwd: 15 April - Article on Colloidal Silver
>  
> These links may interest some of you - enjoy we will out 
> Peace, love, blessings, and hugs to all
> Sandee
> An Attitude of Gratitude is Everything
> oha...@juno.com mailto:oha...@juno.com
> & or 
> san...@spiceisle.com mailto:san...@spiceisle.com
> Alive Again Colloidal Silver Products
> Topical Gel & Eye Drops
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.news-medical.net/news/20180326/Scientists-discover-new-family-of-promising-silver-based-anti-cancer-drugs.aspx
> 
> 
> https://www.pressreader.com/south-africa/the-herald-south-africa/20180328/281767039773651
> 
> 
> https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328505-800-silver-packs-a-punch-as-chemotherapy-drug/
> 
> 
> 
> 


 


CSHelp Un-Subscribing

2015-02-10 Thread Terry Lee Gonzalez

Can someone tell me how to unsubscribe from the list?

* I emailed *silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com *and typed 
unsubscribe in the Subject.  I've done this at least 4 or 5 times. Guess 
I'm a slow learner.   I get back an automated message that starts off 
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* I emailed Mike Devour requesting help.  No reply.  Maybe he's busy.

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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #281

2014-11-29 Thread Terry Lee Gonzalez

Re CSMSM rids Parasites

Harsha, I take my MSM with my morning coffee because unlike a lot of 
supplements/nutrients it crosses the blood brain barrier and has an 
energizing effect (at about 5g).  In fact, I usually recommend to people 
that they NOT take MSM before they go to bed, because your brain will be 
so active you won't be able to fall asleep.  But back to your original 
question, MSM powder can be taken with either hot or cold liquid.  It is 
not degraded by heat.  So you could take it with hot tea, hot coffee or 
cold orange juice.  It can be added to a protein shake, apple sauce, 
yogurt or even soup!  The options are endless. Those of us who are truly 
hardcore put the powder on our tongues and wash it down with water.


Terry

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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #283

2014-11-29 Thread Terry Lee Gonzalez
Sol, try taking your MSM with food.  Doing so is supposed to reduce the 
gastrointestinal side effects that some people experience.  You could 
start with 1/2 gram (or even less!) three times a day.  MSM is just a 
highly bioavailable form of sulfur.  Protein, eggs, and veggies in the 
allium family (garlic, onions, leeks and chives) are also high in 
organosulfur compounds.


My good advice and intentions aside, listen to your body.  What's good 
for one person isn't always good for the next.


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2014 #283

2014-11-29 Thread Terry Lee Gonzalez
Harsha, I take 1 teaspoon of MSM (5g) in a cup of coffee and don't 
notice the taste one way or the other.  My husband insists that I NOT 
add MSM to his coffee because he doesn't like the taste.  He can tell, I 
can't.


A few things (amino acids in particular, proteases (protein-digesting 
enzymes) used to reduce inflammation and some herbs) are better taken on 
an empty stomach.  But the majority of vitamins and minerals are better 
taken with food.  MSM falls into the latter category of being better 
taken with food.  My bet is that Sol will be able to work up to 
higher/therapeutic levels of MSM if he takes it in divided doses with food.


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RE: CSrecommendations on CS books

2013-03-05 Thread TERRY A
Yes Thankyou that would be appreciated.
T.
  -Original Message-
  From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: 06 March 2013 4:33 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books


  Would you like some reading material on IS/CS?





--
  From: TERRY A crack...@mweb.co.za
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Cc: TCA crack...@mweb.co.za
  Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:36 AM
  Subject: RE: CSrecommendations on CS books



  have a look at www.soul-guidance.com/health/colloidalsilver.htm
-Original Message-
From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 01 March 2013 3:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books


I would you to get the book: The Body Electric it more about silver
and electrical current. Most books on CS are more of sales brochure than
anything else.  I have some info that is in pdf format trhat I will gladly
give you for your research.







From: Gregory Schaller sky_wav...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books



Thank you,
I was hoping for more specifics such as which title, which author is
recommended.
GS




From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books



Go to Amazon.com
They have inexpensive used books.
Put *CS* in their search block.



On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Gregory Schaller sky_wav...@yahoo.com
wrote:

  Hi


  I am looking for recommendations on CS books ...
  if I only get one book, what is the best book?
  I notice some of the books are very pricey ...


  Thank you,
  GS














RE: CSrecommendations on CS books

2013-03-05 Thread TERRY A
Hi James my email address is the one you sent this / your reply to ?
So I'll write it in redcrack...@mweb.co.za.
T.
  -Original Message-
  From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: 06 March 2013 7:39 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books


  Need a real e-mail address to send info, the one by your name does not
exist. I will be unable to send the info unless I have a valid e-mail!







--
  From: TERRY A crack...@mweb.co.za
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:22 AM
  Subject: RE: CSrecommendations on CS books



  Yes Thankyou that would be appreciated.
  T.
-Original Message-
From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 06 March 2013 4:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books


Would you like some reading material on IS/CS?





From: TERRY A crack...@mweb.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: TCA crack...@mweb.co.za
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: CSrecommendations on CS books



have a look at www.soul-guidance.com/health/colloidalsilver.htm
  -Original Message-
  From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: 01 March 2013 3:40 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books


  I would you to get the book: The Body Electric it more about silver
and electrical current. Most books on CS are more of sales brochure than
anything else.  I have some info that is in pdf format trhat I will gladly
give you for your research.






--
  From: Gregory Schaller sky_wav...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books



  Thank you,
  I was hoping for more specifics such as which title, which author is
recommended.
  GS



--
  From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books



  Go to Amazon.com
  They have inexpensive used books.
  Put *CS* in their search block.



  On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Gregory Schaller
sky_wav...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi


I am looking for recommendations on CS books ...
if I only get one book, what is the best book?
I notice some of the books are very pricey ...


Thank you,
GS

















RE: CSrecommendations on CS books

2013-03-02 Thread TERRY A
have a look at www.soul-guidance.com/health/colloidalsilver.htm
  -Original Message-
  From: James McDonald [mailto:kscma...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: 01 March 2013 3:40 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books


  I would you to get the book: The Body Electric it more about silver and
electrical current. Most books on CS are more of sales brochure than
anything else.  I have some info that is in pdf format trhat I will gladly
give you for your research.







--
  From: Gregory Schaller sky_wav...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books



  Thank you,
  I was hoping for more specifics such as which title, which author is
recommended.
  GS




--
  From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CSrecommendations on CS books



  Go to Amazon.com
  They have inexpensive used books.
  Put *CS* in their search block.



  On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Gregory Schaller sky_wav...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hi


I am looking for recommendations on CS books ...
if I only get one book, what is the best book?
I notice some of the books are very pricey ...


Thank you,
GS











Re: CS abscessed tooth with a double A battery Reply thanks to Tony too

2013-01-24 Thread Terry A
Hi Lois go to google and search What are TENS devices The best answer will 
come from Wikipedia.
T.
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:58 PM
  Subject: Re: CS abscessed tooth with a double A battery Reply  thanks to 
Tony too


  In a message dated 1/24/2013 1:49:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
a...@aptech.co.za writes:
I would NOT use a TENS device on my head, nor directly along my spine. On 
the other hand 
I am quite happy using low voltage (3 to 12v) on my self, as long as it is 
current controlled, or 
very low voltage (1.5v) if uncontrolled.  


  Hi Tony, I'm not sure what a  TENS  device is. I have never read up on one 
but now the curiosity bump is itching I will have to.   I only used the little 
double a battery with the wire I soldered on each end. I used it as near to the 
abscess as I could get it inside  outside of my cheek...I never felt any 
current passing through my jaw  have never felt anything from one when I have 
touched both ends with wet fingers... A 9 volt is different I got sparked only 
once on my tongue when I touched it to see if it was a live one. I learned  
NOT  to do that again very quickly. :-). Lois

RE: CSVit. D 3 'hype'

2009-07-05 Thread Terry
Which group do you think you're in?

-Original Message-
From: Indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'


It's the gubmint mind-control, I tell you.
Doesn't work on the very bright or the brain-damaged. 
;)

-- 
indi

Sarah Palin's 15 minutes are over, just as I predicted. 




On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 07:27:04PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote:
You know that, and I know that, Indi, but many people out there haven't
a
clue!  The amount of people I have met who have no idea what is in
'products' as they are now called.  Especially the ones termed
'natural'
or organic.  Even products designed for babies have it in.  Probably
why
so many children suffer from eczema and asthma I suppose.  Dee
 
---Original Message---
 
From: [1]Indi
Date: 07/05/09 18:54:23
To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'
 
Anyway, it's not that hard to use soaps without SLS.
Bronner's soap is the best, IMO.
 
--
indi
 
 
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RE: CSVit. D 3 'hype'

2009-07-04 Thread Terry
If that's the case I should have been dead 5 years ago unless I'm immune to
rat poison.

-Original Message-
From: mborg...@att.net [mailto:mborg...@att.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D 3 'hype'


Be careful of vitamin d3 it is a rat poison.
Good information  at the marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2572

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   About 50 years ago mention was made in some weekly reader or something
about how research on Vit. D was sparse.  Yet, what had been learned
indicated that this nutrient just might be extremely important in many ways.
However, its un-patentability made greater research unlikely or at least
very slow.  Since then I have been on the lookout for more info on Vit. D.
Only since computers became easily accessible have I been able to get much
more information.  Now there is tons of info and it nearly all points to a
really great need for more of this nutrient for nearly everyone.  It seems
it may actually be some sort of master nutrient.  There is much to be
learned, but the site www.vitamindcouncil.com
http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/  will be very enlightening.  What is going
on is that information that could once be suppressed for the money interests
of the few, can now be publicized far and wide by computers.  And it is
being publicized.  Similar to the information about the connection between
iodine deficiency and cancer, along with loads of other easily preventable
poor health conditions.  My opinion--considered and informed.  Not medical
advice.pj




RE: CSVitamin D hype

2009-07-03 Thread Terry
Everywhere it seems there is research going on or at least being reported,
showing some amazing need being met by Vit D.   Perhaps because it's
news?
 
Is it the only nutrient particle of immense benefit to the human body?
No, but it is potentially of immense benefit, there is a wide-spread
insufficiency in the world's populace, and it is cheap.
 
Is this something here that's patentable?  No.
 
Oh, and global warming.  Speaking of hype...

-Original Message-
From: Saralou [mailto:slped...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSVitamin D hype




Today was a mercola, mike adams and a life extension article on D3 in my
e-box

For a year or two now I've watched Vitamin D (D3 and more) get increasing
headline space in natural news than any other nutrient.  (Please don't
pick at my language, it is inexactif you can tell what I mean, read on,
if not, delete.) Everywhere it seems there is research going on or at least
being reported, showing some amazing need being met by Vit D. 

I don't doubt that it is of benefit to many people because our food supply
is so corrupt and the RDA has been low enough that no doubt many things are
the result of deficiencies. Oh, and global warming.  But why only vitamin D?
Is it the only nutrient particle of immense benefit to the human body?

Is this something here that's patentable?  Is it the byproduct of big biz
somewhere?  

It reminds me of Soy 15 years ago...which is why I wonder if something else
is going on.  This is exactly the way soy began to become a necessary part
of every hidden ingredient and everything we elect to consume. 

Where is the connection?  Is there one?  What's the real deal?

Saralou


  _  

Life Extension Update ExclusiveLife Extension Update 
July 3, 2009



Vitamin D insufficiency is a global
http://www.lef.org/newsletter/2009/0703_Vitamin-D-Insufficiency-Global-Issu
e.htm?source=eNewsLetter2009Wk28-2key=Articlel=0#article issue




In a report published on June 19, 2009 in the journal
http://www.springerlink.com/content/1433-2965 Osteoporosis International,
the International Osteoporosis Foundation's expert working group on
nutrition revealed the global extent of vitamin D insufficiency. They found
that suboptimal vitamin D levels are common in most areas of the world, and
appear to be on the rise.

The committee, chaired by Ambrish Mithal of Indraprastha Apollo Hospitals in
New Delhi, India, reviewed published literature concerning the vitamin D
levels of people residing in Asia, Europe, Latin America, the Middle East
and Africa, North America and Oceania. Although there was some of variance
in assay methodology and in the definition of vitamin D deficiency and
insufficiency, 25-hydroxyvitamin levels below 75 nanomoles per liter, which
are generally considered insufficient, were found to be widespread in every
region studied. Older age, female gender, higher latitude, winter season,
dark skin pigmentation, decreased sun exposure, dietary habits, and a lack
of vitamin D fortification were identified as factors contributing to low
vitamin D levels. Levels below 25 nanomoles per liter, indicating
deficiency, were prevalent in South Asia and the Middle East, where
increased urbanization and the wearing of clothing that covers most of the
skin are major contributors. 
Continue
http://www.lef.org/newsletter/2009/0703_Vitamin-D-Insufficiency-Global-Issu
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RE: CSBrown Recluse Spider, What is Important

2009-07-03 Thread Terry
From Wikipedia:
 
Neurotoxic venom
 
The majority of spiders with serious bites possess a neurotoxic venom of
some sort, though the specific manner in which the nervous system is
attacked varies from spider to spider.
Widow spider venom contains components known as latrotoxins, which cause the
release of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, stimulating muscle
contractions. This can affect the body in several ways, including causing
painful abdominal cramps, as well as interfering with respiration, and
causing other systemic effects. The venom of Australasian funnel-web spiders
and mouse spiders works by opening sodium channels, causing excessive neural
activity which interferes with normal bodily function.
The venom of Brazilian wandering spiders is also a potent neurotoxin, which
attacks multiple types of ion channels.  In addition, the venom contains
high levels of serotonin, making an envenomation by this species
particularly painful.

-Original Message-
From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 11:06 AM
To: silver-list
Subject: RE: CSBrown Recluse Spider, What is Important


Hi Wayne
 
Didn't know how a spider operates.  Hopefully won't find out by being bit!
Glad to know that.  
 
Dianne
 
 Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:23:29 -0500
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 From: cwa...@netdoor.com
 Subject: RE: CSBrown Recluse Spider, What is Important
 
 Morning Dianne,
 
 At 06:31 AM 7/3/2009, you wrote:
 I was watching a video once that said that if bitten by a poisonous 
 snake, they could shock the spot quickly, possibly 5-10 minutes they 
 could change the poison in the bite to a normal protein the body 
 could deal with and eliminate.
 
 What makes you think
 it is a poison,
 in spiders,
 
 It is a digestive enzyme,
 it serves to
 liquidfy the food
 so the spider can eat it...
 
 That is why,
 no
 antibiotic
 will help it,
 
 Wayne
 
 
 
 
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RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm ?

2009-07-01 Thread Terry
To clarify - is that 2 or 3 doses at 400 mg per dose (i.e., 800-1200 mg
total)?

-Original Message-
From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm ?


Diatomaceous earth will not kill a tape worms, nor any of the Thread worms
that cluster  in our head. they are killed by the ZAPPER.   But COQ10 in 2
or 3 doses of 400 mg each day,  in 3 days will kill a tape worm. All other
common usa worms are killed by Dr. Clarks Worm wood, Cloves,  Green, Black
walnut hull tincture , I am sure CS does help, but we have 3 stages of most
parasites, ,,,egg, Larva,  adult. Got to get them all or they come back. 

Diatomaceous Earth kills some stages of larva  adult parasites. But not the
eggs.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

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From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm head pls?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 7:48 AM


What about food grade diatomaceous earth, folks? Anybody have 
experience with that for worms?

Mike D.

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RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm ?

2009-07-01 Thread Terry
Tel - thanks.  I don't have tapeworms (as far as I know) but I like to be
prepared just in case.

-Original Message-
From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm ?


Yes, Tapeworm dose of COQ10 is 400 mg in 2 or 3 days each, depending how bad
you are infested.  You will probably have many tape worms if you have any at
all ? 

Tape worms multiply by breaking off at the tail end, (like scotch tape)  and
growing into an adult.  This is Dr. H.R. Clark's recommendation.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote:



From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net
Subject: RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm ?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 2:36 PM


To clarify - is that 2 or 3 doses at 400 mg per dose (i.e., 800-1200 mg
total)?

-Original Message-
From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm ?


Diatomaceous earth will not kill a tape worms, nor any of the Thread worms
that cluster  in our head. they are killed by the ZAPPER.   But COQ10 in 2
or 3 doses of 400 mg each day,  in 3 days will kill a tape worm. All other
common usa worms are killed by Dr. Clarks Worm wood, Cloves,  Green, Black
walnut hull tincture , I am sure CS does help, but we have 3 stages of most
parasites, ,,,egg, Larva,  adult. Got to get them all or they come back. 

Diatomaceous Earth kills some stages of larva  adult parasites. But not the
eggs.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:



From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSso what kills a tapeworm head pls?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 7:48 AM


What about food grade diatomaceous earth, folks? Anybody have 
experience with that for worms?

Mike D.

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RE: CSCS and marijuana cultivation

2009-06-17 Thread Terry
Large amount of seed is not usually desired.

-Original Message-
From: Alchemysa [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS and marijuana cultivation


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)_cultivation

Under the section called Feminized Seeds.

Spraying selected leaves, branches and, in cases where large amount  
of seed desired, whole plants with colloidal silver solution has  
become a preferred method since the colloidal silver suppresses  
ethylene production in bud sites, stimulating male characteristics

This leads me to think that when gardeners spray CS on their plants  
they may be doing more than just fighting plant diseases.


David




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RE: CSsquamous cell carcinoma

2009-05-20 Thread Terry
Plan on seeing more of it from our benevolent feds.

-Original Message-
From: Dee Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma



How dreadful!  Is this allowed in America?  dee
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Jason Vale mailto:jasonv...@yahoo.com 
Date: 19/05/2009 05:26:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsquamous cell carcinoma
 
Sureyou do not want to put the cansema on the Prostate.  Greg did
recommend taking the Cansema internally.  The FDA confiscated all of my
apricot seed and Cansema when they raided my house by the way.  That means
the stuff works...  Where are you still getting a supply of Cansema.  



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RE: CSB-6 and the FDA

2009-02-22 Thread Terry
We're from the government and we're here to help.

-Original Message-
From: Steven Foss [mailto:foss_ste...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSB-6 and the FDA


Hi Silver List,

The FDA did not say that one form of B-6 will become an illegal drug (LSD,
Cocaine, Anabolic Steroids).

Rather, one of Big Pharma has applied for a received approval and this one
from will be only available as a prescription as a legal drug when approved
for marketing.

A North Carolina-based firm called Biostratum began manufacturing 
pyridoxamine-based drug called Pyridorin designed to prevent the progression
of 
diabetic nephropathy (kidney disease). The company then petitioned the FDA
to 
declare pyridoxamine a new drug, clearing the way for them to hold an 
iron-clad monopoly on its sale. NephroGenex, a biotechnology company
developing treatments for kidney disease utilizing molecular profiling,
entered into licensing agreement with BioStratum Incorporated that acquires
commercial rights to Pyridorin(TM) (pyridoxamine dihydrochloride) for
diabetic nephropathy. 

http://www.nephrogenex.com


PyridorinT
has demonstrated a significant treatment effect in slowing the progression
of diabetic nephropathy in two Phase 2 clinical trials, and it has been
awarded Fast Track status by the FDA. PyridorinT is one of the leading drug
candidates in advanced clinical trials for diabetic kidney
disease.NephroGenex has recently initiated a new Phase 2b clinical trial
(PYR-210) that is evaluating the safety and efficacy of PyridorinT in
slowing the progression of nephropathy in patients with type 2 diabete

The FDA agreed with Biostratum, 
and declared this most popular form of vitamin B-6 to indeed be a new
drug, 
using the argument that its medical qualities had been under investigation 
for years before it was ever used as a nutritional supplement under the 
DSHEA, which ironically was enacted in 1994 in order to protect nutritional 
supplements from excessive FDA regulation or removal from the market as
drugs.

Not to worry, said many 
observers in the nutritional supplement industry. After all, there are two
other 
natural forms of vitamin B-6 that can still be used in multi-vitamin 
formulations. 

The problem is, another drug company has already petitioned the FDA to
declare the second 
most popular form of B-6, pyridoxal 
5'-phosphate, which is also called P5P, a new drug, apparently 
for the very same reason pyridoxamine has been declared a drug, i.e., it's 
purely medical qualities have been investigated long before it was ever used
as 
a nutritional supplement.

How much longer until the third most popular 
natural form of B-6, pyridoxine will be declared a drug? You can bet your
boots the 
pharmaceutical companies are racing to get in on the FDA's new fast-track
for 
turning B-vitamins into drugs.

If that is the case, then B complex formulas and Multi Vitamins will either
have to remove B-6 from their formulations or become Rx drugs.

There is a petition at
https://secure3.convio.net/aahf/site/Advocacy?cmd=displaypage=UserActionid
=245
You should also write and call your Congressmen and Senators immediately,
and 
tell them you don't want the FDA banning any more vitamins by turning them
into 
drugs. 

Steve

PS.  There is less than 30 days to let the EPA know how you feel about
regulating Colloidal Silver.  See,
http://colloidalsilversecrets.blogspot.com/2009/01/updated-contact-informati
on-for.html for information where and how to post.



  


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RE: CSSilver Puppy

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
The sheep have elected a socialist/Marxist with the hopes of him paying for
their gas and mortgages.  Here's hoping enough of our freedoms survive that
we can overthrow this bloodless coup in 4 years. Enough of the political
cr*p.

-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy


Actually, my CS is never yellow.  Another generator, which I returned,  made

yellow CS, and that CS stained the glass yellow.

My current generator never mades yellow CS.  Thank you Dee.  I'll have to 
see if I can find some of those little melamine pads just for all purpose 
use.

We have a wonderful new president this morning.   I am very excited.   I 
know it is going to be tough on him because he has inherited one h--- of a 
mess, but I think he is the best man to handle it.   Here's hoping.  Faith 
G.


- Original Message - 
From: Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy


I did this, but found that after making quite a lot of CS I thought the
colour had gone yellow, but found later that it was actually the glass jar,
which had discoloured inside.  I always just rinsed it with clean distilled
water after brewing, but even so, it still discoloured.  This meant that I
couldn't see if my CS was yellow or not.  However, after making the last
batch and tipping it into a clear glass, I could see it was the jar which
was discoloured and not the CS.  This was where my little white melamine
pads came in handy.  I know that if you use tap water or detergent to wash
the jar out, it can cause problems with the CS, but I used the little pad
and it all came off beautifully with just distilled water!  My CS was
perfect after that.  Dee

---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 04/11/2008 21:10:31
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy

I just re-use my glass ball jars without washing them.  I figure they are
cleaner than water.  Faith G.



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RE: CSSilver Puppy

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
I feel we got a righteous wind at our backs here, but we're going to have
to work.  We're going to have to struggle.  We are going to have to fight
---Barack Obama, Virginia 2008

The ill wind of opportunism is falling, the righteous wind of socialism is
on the rise.  By the end of this year the victory of socialism will be
greatly assured. Naturally there will be many struggles ahead and we must
struggle hard.
---The writings of Chairman Mao (Vol. 1, Sept. 1949 - Dec. 1955)

Fools.

-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy


Actually, my CS is never yellow.  Another generator, which I returned,  made

yellow CS, and that CS stained the glass yellow.

My current generator never mades yellow CS.  Thank you Dee.  I'll have to 
see if I can find some of those little melamine pads just for all purpose 
use.

We have a wonderful new president this morning.   I am very excited.   I 
know it is going to be tough on him because he has inherited one h--- of a 
mess, but I think he is the best man to handle it.   Here's hoping.  Faith 
G.


- Original Message - 
From: Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy


I did this, but found that after making quite a lot of CS I thought the
colour had gone yellow, but found later that it was actually the glass jar,
which had discoloured inside.  I always just rinsed it with clean distilled
water after brewing, but even so, it still discoloured.  This meant that I
couldn't see if my CS was yellow or not.  However, after making the last
batch and tipping it into a clear glass, I could see it was the jar which
was discoloured and not the CS.  This was where my little white melamine
pads came in handy.  I know that if you use tap water or detergent to wash
the jar out, it can cause problems with the CS, but I used the little pad
and it all came off beautifully with just distilled water!  My CS was
perfect after that.  Dee

---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 04/11/2008 21:10:31
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy

I just re-use my glass ball jars without washing them.  I figure they are
cleaner than water.  Faith G.



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RE: CSSilver Puppy

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Duh.  The idea is that this board is not for political musings - but if Mike
allows, bring it on.

-Original Message-
From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:35 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy




On 11/5/08, Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote: 

The sheep have elected a socialist/Marxist with the hopes of him paying for
their gas and mortgages.  Here's hoping enough of our freedoms survive that
we can overthrow this bloodless coup in 4 years. Enough of the political
cr*p. 



So you can make whatever disparaging remarks you like but no one else is
allowed to make any because it'll be  political cr*p. Interesting view of
democracy you have in America.

Kirsteen






RE: CSSilver Puppy

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
It began with Faith's gushing about our wonderful new president - or do
you actually read any of these comments?

-Original Message-
From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy




On 11/5/08, Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote: 

Duh.  The idea is that this board is not for political musings - but if Mike
allows, bring it on.


Except yours obviously

Kirsteen 






RE: CSSilver Puppy

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
They're completely separate quotes on exactly the same issue - SOCIALISM.
There is no Bush sin that justifies giving the country a large dose of rat
poison.  Why have a democracy?  In part, precisely because it gives me the
freedom to call fools, fools.  However, political correctness will soon have
the weight of the federal beaurocracy behind it, so I will enjoy the freedom
to do so while I still have the chance.  It's not a matter of me being right
or wrong, it's a matter of policies that have the potential to forever
damage this 230 experiment in democracy in ways that are irreversible.  Time
will tell - just watch.

-Original Message-
From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy




On 11/5/08, Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote: 

It began with Faith's gushing about our wonderful new president - or do
you actually read any of these comments?


Yes, funnilu enough I read them all. I don't know about you but I'm not in
the habit of replying to posts I haven't read. Faith added a comment about
the election to a post that was very definitely on-topic. I would actually
have had some sympathy with the view of keeping political issues of this
list if that's all you'd posted. But you lose all right to hold that view
when you put in your own totally disparaging remarks first.

Now of course people are allowed to have opposing political views after all
without that there'd be no democracy and no need to vote but the sheer
hubris of calling everyone who disagrees with you a fool, well why have
democracy? Why didn't you just tell America you were going to run it?

And as for fools, well you quote two completely separate quotes on two
completely separate issues and yet I get the impression you expect people to
somehow link them together. Now I don't know you so I've no idea whether
you're the one who's foolish enough to believe there's a connection or
whether you beleieve everyone lese is foolish enough to believe that. Only
you know the answer to that.

Kirsteen






RE: CSOff Topic Politics

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
I try to stay out of the politics but this time I will put in my 2 cents and
then butt out. Republicans do not have to rejoice in Obama but they should
be open to an opportunity for things to be better.
Better?  Would that be increased capital gains taxes/job losses, a
guaranteed tax increase in 2010 when the Bush tax cuts are non-renewed, a
tax cut (i.e., welfare check) to people who don't pay taxes, institution
of the Fairness doctrine, elimination of secret ballots for union voting,
unlimited abortions, etc?  That's better???  Eye of the beholder, I guess.
 
The Republicans had their opportunity and it is an understatement to say
they failed miserably...
They failed miserably because they spent like good Democrats instead of
limited-government fiscal conservatives...so our response is to elect a
government that will make that spending look small-time in comparison?
 
So now the Democrats have their chance and we should all hope they can
suceed 
I do not hope they can succeed in expanding the size and scope of government
and the increased reliance of the populace on government to solve all their
problems by taxing and controlling the producers and redistributing their
gains (aka socialism).  Sorry, but I can not hope for that change.
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOff Topic Politics 


I try to stay out of the politics but this time I will put in my 2 cents and
then butt out. Republicans do not have to rejoice in Obama but they should
be open to an opportunity for things to be better. The Republicans had their
opportunity and it is an understatement to say they failed miserably and
would continue to do so if given the chance. So now the Democrats havve
their chance and we should all hope they can suceed where the Republicans
did not. You seem to consider liberals as a dirty word but in the words of
another:
 
For the better part of a decade, the conservatives made liberal a dirty
word. Well, it isn't. It represents the best and most noble nature of what
America stands for: equitable government services, old age pensions, health
care, education, fair trials and humane imprisonment. It is the heart and
soul of what made American different and better than other countries. Not
only an escape from oppression, but the opportunity to thrive in land free
of tradition and the repression that can bring. We offered a democracy which
didn't enshrine the rich and made them feel they had an obligation to their
workers. 
 
Bush and the people around him disdain that. They think, by accident of
birth and circumstance, they were meant to rule the world and those who did
not agree would suffer. 
 
Liberal does not and has not meant weak until the conservatives said it did.
Was Martin Luther King weak? Bobby Kennedy? Gene McCarthy? It was the
liberals who remade this country and ended legal segregation and legal
sexism. Not the conservatives, who wanted to hold on to the old ways. 
 
It's time to regain the spirit of FDR and Truman and the people around them.
People who believed in the public good over private gain. It is time to stop
apologizing for being a liberal and be proud to fight for your beliefs. No
more shying away or being defined by other people. Liberals believe in a
strong defense and punishment for crime. But not preemption and pointless
jail sentences. We believe no American should be turned away from a hospital
because they are too poor or lack a proper legal defense. We believe that
people should make enough from one job to live on, to spend time on raising
their family. We believe that individuals and not the state should dictate
who gets married and why. The best way to defend marriage is to expand, not
restrict it. 
 
It was the liberals who opposed the Nazis while the conservatives were
plotting to get their brown shirts or fund Hitler. It was the liberals who
warned about Spain and fought there, who joined the RAF to fight the
Germans, who brought democracy to Germany and Japan. Let us not forget it
was the conservatives who opposed defending America until the Germans sank
our ships. They would have done nothing as Britain came under Nazi control.
It was they who supported Joe McCarthy and his baseless, drink fueled
claims. 
 
Without liberals, there would be no modern America, just a Nazi sattlelite
state. Liberals weak on defense? Liberals created America's defense. The
conservatives only need vets at election time. 

 - Steve N

  _  

From: Terry [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSSilver Puppy


It began with Faith's gushing about our wonderful new president - or do
you actually read any of these comments?

-Original Message-
From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re

RE: CSOff Topic Politics

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Was he 8 years old when he served with him on various boards (and helped
distribute $100 M to Chicago schools with no measurable improvement, by the
way).  Was he 8 years old when Ayers hosted the kick-off of his senatorial
campaign?  Was he 8 years old when Ayers said (on 9/11/01) I don't regret
setting bombs.  Oh, the AP and the NY Times are your sources of
information?  That explains a lot.

-Original Message-
From: Kirsteen Wright [mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOff Topic Politics




On 11/5/08, jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: 

Steve Obama's friend, Ayers, dedicated his book to Kennedy's murderer. Wake
up. J


William Ayers is a professor
http://education.uic.edu/directory/faculty_info.cfm?netid=bayers  of
education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, with whom Barack served
on the board of an education-reform organization in the mid-1990's.
According to the Associated
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93KD6Q00show_article=1 Press,
they are not close: No evidence shows they were pals or even close when
they worked on community boards years ago .

Smear groups and the McCain campaign are trying to connect Obama to acts
Ayers committed 40 years ago - when Barack was just eight years old. Here's
what the New York
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.html Times reported
on the connection: 

But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever
expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he
has called somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was
8. 



Barack has publicly
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_conne
ction.html denounced Ayers' radical actions from the 1960's: 


Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group,
as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when
Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with
events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous. 

Kirsteen  






RE: CSPolitics and the effect on CS

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
In its entirety:

Actually, my CS is never yellow.  Another generator, which I returned,
made 
yellow CS, and that CS stained the glass yellow.

My current generator never mades yellow CS.  Thank you Dee.  I'll have to 
see if I can find some of those little melamine pads just for all purpose 
use.

We have a wonderful new president this morning.   I am very excited.   I 
know it is going to be tough on him because he has inherited one h--- of a 
mess, but I think he is the best man to handle it.   Here's hoping.  Faith 
G.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:59 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPolitics and the effect on CS


At 11:19 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
It began with Faith's gushing about our wonderful new president -
or do you actually read any of these comments?

Somehow I missed it.  Must not have got the message.

I would like to know what was said.

Wayne

Politics is everywhere, It certainly mixes with CS

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RE: CSOff Topic Politics

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Whew, THAT'S a relief - lol.

-Original Message-
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Kirsteen Wright
Subject: Re: CSOff Topic Politics


The good news is, they did just find his official birth certificate, so this
should clear things up!


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=8



 Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com wrote: 
 On 11/5/08, jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
 
   Steve Obama's friend, Ayers, dedicated his book to Kennedy's 
  murderer. Wake up. J
 
 
 William Ayers is a 
 professorhttp://education.uic.edu/directory/faculty_info.cfm?netid=ba
 yersof
 education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, with whom Barack
 served on the board of an education-reform organization in the mid-1990's.
 According to the Associated
 Presshttp://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93KD6Q00show_article=1,
 they are not close: No evidence shows they were pals or even close when
 they worked on community boards years ago .
 
 Smear groups and the McCain campaign are trying to connect Obama to 
 acts Ayers committed 40 years ago - when Barack was just eight years 
 old. Here's what the New York 
 Timeshttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04ayers.htmlrepor
 ted
 on the connection:
 
 But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama 
 ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. 
 Ayers, whom he has called somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 
 years ago, when I was 8.
 
 
 
 Barack has publicly denounced 
 Ayers'http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weat
 herman_connection.htmlradical
 actions from the 1960's:
 
 
 Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen 
 group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old 
 child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to 
 connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
 
 Kirsteen


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RE: CSOff Topic Politics

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
 Without liberals, there would be no modern America, just a Nazi 
 sattlelite state.

Seen the videos of the Obama youth?

Liberals weak on defense? Liberals created America's 
 defense. 

Seen Barney Frank's proposal to cut the defense budget by 25%

You confuse today's liberals with yesteryear's.  Completely different
animal.



-Original Message-
From: indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOff Topic Politics


On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:19:45 -0600
Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com wrote:

 I try to stay out of the politics but this time I will put in my 2 
 cents and then butt out. Republicans do not have to rejoice in Obama 
 but they should be open to an opportunity for things to be better. The 
 Republicans had their opportunity and it is an understatement to say 
 they failed miserably and would continue to do so if given the chance. 
 So now the Democrats havve their chance and we should all hope they 
 can suceed where the Republicans did not. You seem to consider 
 liberals as a dirty word but in the words of another:
  
 For the better part of a decade, the conservatives made liberal a 
 dirty word. Well, it isn't. It represents the best and most noble 
 nature of what America stands for: equitable government services, old 
 age pensions, health care, education, fair trials and humane 
 imprisonment. It is the heart and soul of what made American different 
 and better than other countries. Not only an escape from oppression, 
 but the opportunity to thrive in land free of tradition and the 
 repression that can bring. We offered a democracy which didn't 
 enshrine the rich and made them feel they had an obligation to their 
 workers. Bush and the people around him disdain that. They think, by 
 accident of birth and circumstance, they were meant to rule the world 
 and those who did not agree would suffer.
  
 Liberal does not and has not meant weak until the conservatives said 
 it did. Was Martin Luther King weak? Bobby Kennedy? Gene McCarthy? It 
 was the liberals who remade this country and ended legal segregation 
 and legal sexism. Not the conservatives, who wanted to hold on to the 
 old ways.
  
 It's time to regain the spirit of FDR and Truman and the people around 
 them. People who believed in the public good over private gain. It is 
 time to stop apologizing for being a liberal and be proud to fight for 
 your beliefs. No more shying away or being defined by other people. 
 Liberals believe in a strong defense and punishment for crime. But not 
 preemption and pointless jail sentences. We believe no American should 
 be turned away from a hospital because they are too poor or lack a 
 proper legal defense. We believe that people should make enough from 
 one job to live on, to spend time on raising their family. We believe 
 that individuals and not the state should dictate who gets married and 
 why. The best way to defend marriage is to expand, not restrict it.
 It was the liberals who opposed the Nazis while the conservatives were
 plotting to get their brown shirts or fund Hitler. It was the liberals
 who warned about Spain and fought there, who joined the RAF to fight
 the Germans, who brought democracy to Germany and Japan. Let us not
 forget it was the conservatives who opposed defending America until
 the Germans sank our ships. They would have done nothing as Britain
 came under Nazi control. It was they who supported Joe McCarthy and
 his baseless, drink fueled claims. 
  
 Without liberals, there would be no modern America, just a Nazi 
 sattlelite state. Liberals weak on defense? Liberals created America's 
 defense. The conservatives only need vets at election time.
 
  - Steve N
 

Bravo, *very* well said!

Cheers,
indi

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RE: CSSilver Puppy

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Ahem, speaking of ignorance and learning to read, why do all of your
messages start out like MessageYes Terry? :D

And that's somehow supposed to negate perfectly valid concerns about this
empty suit?  Typical of a supporter of The One (gag).

-Original Message-
From: indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy


On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:27:35 -0500
jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote:

 MessageYes Terry you're absolutely right. Last night one of his own 
 supporters said, We've elected a man we don't know anything about who 
 has no experience... because we like the way he talks.
 
 If the ignorant would read, they'd at least know of his anti-American 
 connections. Jess
 

Ahem, speaking of ignorance and learning to read, why do all of your
messages start out like MessageYes Terry? :D

Okay, that's it for me. I'm going to be yelled at now for pointing out the
obvious... 

Sorry Mike, but it's mighty hard to resist such a target!

Cheers,
indi
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RE: CSOff Topic Politics

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Agreed - I'm sick of opportunity and freedom and I need someone to worship
and to solve all my problems.  And that Constitution thing has been getting
on my nerves.  Time to bring it all down! 

-Original Message-
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jessie70
Subject: RE: CSOff Topic Politics


I think it's the greatest thing in the world the country elected a
non-amerikan muslim! The people have spoken. This should expedite the
demise of the country.



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RE: CSOff Topic Politics

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Nov. 5, 2008:

The Islamic Action Front (IAF), Jordan's largest political party, on
Wednesday said they considered his win an apology from the American people
to the peoples of Iraq and Afghanistan.



-Original Message-
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:36 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jessie70
Subject: RE: CSOff Topic Politics


I think it's the greatest thing in the world the country elected a
non-amerikan muslim! The people have spoken. This should expedite the
demise of the country.



RE: CSPolitics and the effect on CS

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Being elected proves that one is fantastic?  Any other accomplishments to
support that observation?  Of course, it's such a mess that no one can now
expect him to deliver on his grandiose promises.  How convenient.

-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPolitics and the effect on CS


I said:  Obama is FANTASTIC.  The election proved it, but the guy has 
inherited one total mess.  He will need everyone's help to clear it up. 
Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: CSPolitics and the effect on CS


 At 11:19 AM 11/5/2008, you wrote:
It began with Faith's gushing about our wonderful new president - or 
do
you actually read any of these comments?

 Somehow I missed it.  Must not have got the message.

 I would like to know what was said.

 Wayne

 Politics is everywhere, It certainly mixes with CS

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RE: CSSilver Puppy

2008-11-05 Thread Terry
Yes, head in the sand is always the safest position to take.

-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy


Kirsteen:  You are doing a good job responding to spme total nonsense.  For 
myself, I choose to ignore it.  Best.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: CSSilver Puppy


 On 11/5/08, Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

  It began with Faith's gushing about our wonderful new president - 
 or
 do
 you actually read any of these comments?


 Yes, funnilu enough I read them all. I don't know about you but I'm 
 not in the habit of replying to posts I haven't read. Faith added a 
 comment about the election to a post that was very definitely 
 on-topic. I would actually have had some sympathy with the view of 
 keeping political issues of this list if that's all you'd posted. But 
 you lose all right to hold that view when you put in your own totally 
 disparaging remarks first.

 Now of course people are allowed to have opposing political views 
 after
 all
 without that there'd be no democracy and no need to vote but the sheer
 hubris of calling everyone who disagrees with you a fool, well why have
 democracy? Why didn't you just tell America you were going to run it?

 And as for fools, well you quote two completely separate quotes on two 
 completely separate issues and yet I get the impression you expect 
 people to somehow link them together. Now I don't know you so I've no 
 idea whether you're the one who's foolish enough to believe there's a 
 connection or whether you beleieve everyone lese is foolish enough to 
 believe that. Only you know the answer to that.

 Kirsteen
 


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RE: CS Washing Soda - Dishwashing, Laundry Recipes

2008-10-31 Thread Terry
It's always something.

-Original Message-
From: indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 11:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Washing Soda - Dishwashing, Laundry Recipes



Phels-naptha soap contains mineral spirits, which have been linked to
various respiratory, nervous system, liver, and kidney problems, as 
well as headaches, dizziness, and poor reflexes. 

indi


On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:33:28 -0500
Ruth Bertella berte...@lfdcbham.com wrote:

 Funny how the same topics seem turn up in various places at 
 approximately the same time!  Here is an excerpt from an article I 
 just read online at:
 
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27424347/
 
 Q: How do you make your homemade laundry soap? — Lynn Wilson, Whiting, 
 N.J.
 
 [Editor's note: Many readers were curious about the homemade soap they 
 saw the Duggars make on Discovery Health's 17 Kids and Counting.]
 
 Jim Bob and Michelle: We use Fels-Naptha bar soap in the homemade soap 
 recipes, but you can use Ivory, Sunlight, Kirk's Hardwater Castile or 
 Zote bars. Don't use heavily perfumed soaps. We buy Fels-Naptha by the 
 case from our local grocer or online. Washing soda and Borax can 
 normally be found in the laundry or cleaning aisle. Recipe cost: 
 approximately $2.
 
 Homemade liquid laundry soap
 
 Ingredients:
 4 cups hot tap water
 1 Fels-Naptha soap bar 
 1 cup washing soda 
 ½ cup Borax 
 
   a.. Grate bar of soap and add to saucepan with water. Stir 
 continually over medium-low heat until soap dissolves and is melted.
 
   b.. Fill a five-gallon bucket half full of hot tap water. Add melted 
 soap, washing soda and Borax. Stir well until all powder is dissolved. 
 Fill bucket to top with more hot water. Stir, cover and let sit 
 overnight to thicken.
 
   c.. Stir and fill a used, clean, laundry soap dispenser half full 
 with soap and then fill rest of way with water. Shake before each use. 
 (It will gel.)
 
   d.. Optional: You can add 10-15 drops of essential oil per two 
 gallons. Add once soap has cooled. Ideas: lavender, rosemary, tea tree 
 oil. Yield: Liquid soap recipe makes 10 gallons. Top-load
 machine: 5/8 cup per load (approximately 180 loads). Front-load
 machine: ¼ cup per load (approx. 640 loads).
 
 Powdered laundry detergent
 
 Ingredients:
 1 Fels-Naptha soap bar
 1 cup washing soda 
 ½ cup Borax 
 
   a.. Grate soap or break into pieces and process in a food processor 
 until powdered. Mix all ingredients. For light load, use one 
 tablespoon. For heavy or heavily soiled load, use 2 tablespoons.
 Yields: three cups detergent (approximately 40 loads). Inexpensive 
 fabric softener recipes
 
 Recipe No. 1: Add one cup white vinegar to rinse cycle. Works great. 
 Removes residue and odors. Also helps to keep washing machine and 
 hoses fresh and clean too.
 
 Recipe No. 2:
 1 container of name-brand fabric softener
 4 inexpensive sponges, cut in half 
 
 Pour a whole container of softener into a five-gallon bucket. Fill 
 empty softener container with water twice (two parts water to  one 
 part softener). Add sponges to softener/water mixture. When ready to 
 use, wring out extra mixture from one sponge and add to the dryer as 
 you would a dryer sheet.
 
  
 
 Enjoy!!
 Ruth
 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Rowena 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:37 PM
   Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Dishwashing
 
 
   Hulda Clark says you can't rinse it off, there is always a residue.  
 She recommends borax and washing soda.  Borax in the dishwasher, with 
 vinegar as a rinse aid. R
 
 
 When I wash a few dishes by hand here and there I use liquid dish 
 soap, and because it is concentrated I dilute it a lot with water. I 
 always rinse well.  Otherwise I use a dishwasher about once a week 
 because I 'pack'  it with dishes before I turn it on.  Saves on water.
 


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RE: CSWhy do we say such things

2008-10-29 Thread Terry
Many people that wear hats, shirts, and boots with the word,  Alternative
written all over them, turn right around and quote mainstream lies.

If we have anything written all over us, it should be truth.  There is
truth and there are lies on both sides of the stream.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwf...@fugitt.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:31 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWhy do we say such things


Morning Neville,

  At 02:22 AM 10/29/2008, you wrote:
  I am sad to say I will never get a good handle on it.
  which is perhaps why I never seem to get the 'right' answers.

   Often I wonder why you say

Unless

  You are trying to conceal the fact from us, that
You are a genius.

   Never fear,  Some of us figure out such things anyway.

I doubt that you have any memory problem or brain damage or you 
would tell us.   CS would cure that anyway.

 I never make any excuses for why I am wrong, why I am a nut and 
why I am irrational.  Or why I am wrong.

 I am just a dumb old redneck that is not suppose to be on top of 
the stack.

 Often we are wrong because of no fault of our own.
Someone told us wrong, or lied to us.

 If one reads all the mainstream articles and documents, he will 
be wrong more than he is right.

 I thought everyone knew that.

 Many people that wear hats, shirts, and boots with the word,
Alternative written all over them, turn right around and
quote mainstream lies.   Heaven forbid, where did the wisdom go ?

I know, some will think all that is a rigamaroe.  Many that think 
that, are a rigamaroe themselves or lack understanding.

You did not have to quote all of Mikes message.  I already had two copies,
now I have three.

Wayne

He who is good for making excuses, is seldom good for anything else.





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RE: CSScary stuff from the EPA

2008-08-25 Thread Terry
Our government has become so large and powerful that it can do whatever it
wants.
 
And it may be about to get a lot bigger (and therefore more powerful).

-Original Message-
From: Arnold Beland [mailto:abela...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 9:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSScary stuff from the EPA


Steve's post led me to do a bit of research in this area.  Have a look at
this:
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-PEST/2007/September/Day-21/p18591.htm
 
I am beginning to feel lucky that all been doing is selling 7 silver
wire (presumably to be used in manufacturing jewelry).
This is really nothing to laugh about.  Our government has become so large
and powerful that it can do whatever it wants.



RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables

2008-08-24 Thread Terry
I find them repetitious.

-Original Message-
From: Carl Deb Charter [mailto:carl...@charter.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:18 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
Lettuce and Other Vegetables


I enjoy reading Kurt's posts and find them enjoyable.  If the posts are on
the OT list, then there really shouldn't be a problem.  Also, it's not just
the neocons doing it to us, but the same old old cons as well (just my 2
cents worth!! lol)
 
Deb

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 6:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach,
Lettuce and Other Vegetables


Sadly, this is 100% true.  It has been a policy of the neocons for many
years to sicken the population and prevent us from taking charge of our
health.  The sicker we become, the more pharmaceuticals we will consume.
This is a conspiracy of Big Pharma and our government.  It is no longer a
secret, they are openly defying our Constitutional right to life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness.  This is fascism, pure an simple... the
marriage of multi-national corporations with government.   They want us to
be slaves to their dangerous and ineffectual products, and they don't care
if we die in the process.   
 
Bob

- Original Message - 
From: James  mailto:dr...@earthlink.net McCourt, Ph.D. 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce
and Other Vegetables

Massive agricultural corporations with long shipping routes from uninspected
international countries with lower hygiene standards must destroy food
enzymes and foreign contaminants so the product won't rot along with their
profits. Or you could just buy local food and vote for politicians that
would enforce our antitrust laws.

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Converse mailto:p...@vif.com  
To: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other
Vegetables

Hi All,
 
Kurt may be off topic but who can say that he is reporting inaccurately? We
need to wake up and speak up for ourselves and our children!
 
 
Blessings,
 
Peter

- Original Message - 
From: jessie70 mailto:jessi...@optonline.net  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: RE: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other
Vegetables

TRUE

-Original Message-
From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:08 PM
To: jwilliams...@cfl.rr.com; agman...@aol.com; Bob Olivier; Cameron Sutton;
dduf...@aol.com; Elizabeth Grymes; Hannah Coker; Jean Coker; Jim Collins;
Lisa Ellis; Silver Post
Subject: Re: CSFDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other
Vegetables


I'm not having any trouble believing this.  Most of it is already happening.
Do some research..  Conspiracy theory ot not, I think we need a wake up call
now and then..





Think about this: If the FDA has its way:


Â. All your food will be irradiated, pasteurized or killed
Â. All your children will be vaccinated
Â. All your medicine will be based on pharmaceuticals
Â. All your free speech about health will be suppressed
Â. All informative labeling on food and supplements will be outlawed
Â. Growing and selling non-irradiated garden vegetables will become a crime!



(snip)

 

If you don't believe the FDA wants the public to be sick then just look at
the Oncologists, or anything to do with cancer treatment.

 


Already you can't sell any product other than a pharmaceutical that claims
to treat or prevent any disease.
This is by design. I believe the FDA wants the American public to be
sickened and diseased. Why else would they ban Free Speech about healing
foods like cherries, broccoli and garlic? Why would they outlaw the selling
of herbs and nutritional supplements that claim to treat and prevent
disease? The FDA wants you to be sick, enslaved and medicated, and
irradiating the food supply is the quickest way to accomplish that.



-- 


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RE: CSBottles

2008-06-08 Thread Terry
It deserved judgement.

-Original Message-
From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBottles


And how judgemental you are.  Faith G.
 

- Original Message - 
From: Dee  mailto:d...@deetroy.org 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: CSBottles


How polite you are!  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Faith Gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net 
Date: 06/07/08 21:48:21
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBottles
 
Rubbish.  Faith g.
 
 
 



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RE: CSForced Vaccinations

2008-06-04 Thread Terry
I can't wait for government-run health care in the U.S.

-Original Message-
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 12:57 PM
To: ACMN; avian2...@yahoogroups.com; 8th...@yahoogroups.com;
lymec...@yahoogroups.com; lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com;
silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSForced Vaccinations



From: W.G.E.N.
 
 
Every time I see a report on MANDATED medical practices on anyone I
immediately think back to the mad Doctors of Germany.  Keep this in mind as
you keep believing that America is a nation of FREE PEOPLE.  You ARE NOT
FREE as long as government can tell you - and FORCE YOU to - be subjected to
their insane medical experiments. How many brutal Dr. Josef Mengele, the
Nazi's Auschwitz Angel of Death do we have in America? How could a physician
use his healing powers to cause mutilation, ... 
Take a peek at this web page and see what wonderful results those maniacs
produced. http://www.auschwitz.dk/doctors.htm
Then check out the medical experiments done here in America -  like Tuskegee
- and then the forced vaccines on the Military troops.

Jackie Juntti
WGEN  idz...@earthlink.net
~


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From: Ambro A 
Subject: Forced Vaccinations Part Of Dark Eugenics Agenda

http://www.infowars.com/?p=2506
http://infowars.net/articles/may2008/300508vaccines.htm
Forced Vaccinations Part Of Dark Eugenics Agenda 

Lee Rogers
Rogue Government
June 3, 2008
  

 


  Theoretically, if the CDC decided that paint thinner was a recommended
vaccination, all children in the state of New York would not be able to
attend the brainwashing camps without having paint injected into their
veins.


Government terrorists are continuing their dark eugenics agenda of
enslavement and death. The New York State Assembly has proposed a bill that
would make all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for any children
attending the government's brainwashing camps. These government brainwashing
camps are more commonly referred to by the corporate controlled media as the
public school system. Assembly Bill 10942 would force children to take
vaccines with or without parental consent in order to be admitted into these
government facilities. These terrorists are attempting to setup a system in
which the government will force parents to have their children injected with
anything that the federal government recommends. Theoretically, if the CDC
decided that paint thinner was a recommended vaccination, all children in
the state of New York would not be able to attend the brainwashing camps
without having paint injected into their veins. These people want to treat
your children like they are cattle and this is completely unacceptable.
There are already numerous questions about the safety of many of these
vaccines. There has been an astronomical rise in autism over the past
several decades that have coincided with the increased amount of
preservatives that the pharmaceutical companies have included in these
vaccines. It is unacceptable to force children to take these vaccines when
there's a great deal of question surrounding their safety. 

The bill was introduced at the request of Richard Daines who is the
Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health. There should be an
immediate investigation to determine if this man is on the payroll of the
pharmaceutical companies for requesting the introduction of such ridiculous
legislation. No doubt, the companies that make these questionable products
will benefit greatly if all children in the state of New York are required
to take these 

RE: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY

2008-05-29 Thread Terry
And yet many believe that government-run health care is the only way to go.

-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


WOW.  I'm not a NY resident, thank goodness, but if I were I'd raise holy 
HELL about this clear and present danger to anyone affected by this bill. 
This is AWFUL... and DANGEROUS to those who will have to receive the 
vaccines.  Not only are they unnecessary, they are dangerous and ineffectual

to boot!  All flu shots contain mercury, and some girls have died as a 
result of taking this ridiculous HPV shot.  I'd protect my family with any 
means necessary if I were living there.   This is clearly a financial boon 
for the pharmacutical houses producing these things, and an illegal and 
dangerous assault on personal health and well being.  Just unbelieveable!
- Original Message - 
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:21 PM
Subject: CSALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


ALL FEDERAL SHOTS WILL BECOME MANDATORY


Act now to stop the worst vaccine law ever proposed in New York since 
the invention of the mandatory schedule. Assembly Bill 10942 would make 
all vaccines recommended by the CDC mandatory for all children to 
attend school and, and for the first time vaccines would become 
mandatory for infants and toddlers.


The bill was introduced in Rules Committee at the request of Richard 
Daines, the Commissioner of the New York State Department of Health. 
The Rules Committee in the personal committee of the Assembly Speaker 
Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan).


A-CHAMP is calling for rejection of this bill and is demanding the 
passage of A5468/S3031, a bill that would give individuals a right to a 
philosophical exemption from vaccine mandates. This is no time to 
transfer vaccine decisions away from individuals and elected officials 
answerable to the voters and give it to obscure bureaucrats with 
financial ties to the vaccine industry.


Here are a few features of the proposed bill:


· Our elected New York representatives would no longer determine the 
mandatory schedule of vaccines to attend school; decisions made by the 
federal Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices would 
automatically become mandatory.


· All children, infants and toddlers included, in New York would be 
required to get all vaccines recommended by the ACIP according to the 
ACIP schedule


· All children in New York up to age 18 would be required to get annual 
flu shots.


· All girls in New York would be required to get a human papilloma 
virus shot.


· All junior high school children and college students would be 
required to get meningococcal shots.


· Doctors would be required to issue certificates for every shot given 
and parents would be required to maintain the records and provide them 
to school and other authorities.


· The rules committee claims that the new laws would have no fiscal 
impact on the state despite the necessity of the state to spend tens of 
millions on purchasing new vaccines, a vast increase in mandatory 
record keeping and enforcement for schools, and a huge increase that 
could be expected in the number of cases of neurological damage, 
Guillian Barré syndrome and other vaccine-caused injuries.


We only have a few weeks to defeat this bill. Let your Assemblymember 
and State Senator know immediately that a vote for this bill guarantees 
that you will do everything you can to get them un- elected. In 
addition to emailing and calling your local representatives, please 
call Speaker Sheldon Silver and let his staff know, politely, that this 
is a disastrous idea. While you are at it please call Governor David 
Paterson and let his staff know, politely, that this is a horrible law.


Governor David Paterson (518) 474-8390

Speaker Sheldon Silver (518) 455-3791






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RE: CSShocking Dangers of Microwaves

2008-05-04 Thread Terry
The doctor could jab them with a needle connected to an empty syringe and
they'd scream just the same.

-Original Message-
From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:52 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: faith gagne
Subject: Re: CSShocking Dangers of Microwaves


Yep, instincts are an amazing thing. If we listened to them from the start
we sure would be a heck of alot better off. Thats why babies scream bloody
murder when the doctor jabs them with a cocktail of disease, they are trying
to say, hey mom, what the hell are you doing to me

Kurt
 faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: 
 Wow.  Now I know why I have always instinctively refused to use a 
 microwave
 to heat or cook my food.  Thank you for this information.  Maybe together
we 
 can all stay healthy.  Faith G.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com
 To: avian2...@yahoogroups.com; lymea...@aol.com; 
 lymec...@yahoogroups.com; lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com; 
 thefrontp...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 10:29 AM
 Subject: CSShocking Dangers of Microwaves
 
 
  Subject:  Shocking Dangers of Microwaves
 
 
  If you are still uncertain regarding your thoughts on microwaves and 
  the
  apparent dangers associated with them, there was a tragedy in 1991 that 
  made everyone stop and think about using their microwaves. A man in 
  Oklahoma died from a simple blood transfusion because the hospital used
a 
  microwave to warm up the blood. If this type of tragedy does not open
your 
  eyes, nothing will! When hearing a story like this it becomes painfully 
  obvious that there is far more to heating up food in a microwave than we

  have been led to believe over the years. From this incident alone it is

  obvious that there are some unknown factors regarding how a microwave
uses 
  heat to heat up foods. When you find yourself using your microwave on a 
  daily basis, you too are consuming these same unknowns, which caused an 
  unnecessary death so many years ago. 
  http://www.naturalhealthontheweb.com/microwaves/dangers.html
 
  Today you will find a microwave in just about every American home, 
  yet
  over the years the dangers and hazards of these electronics have been
well 
  documented. You can even test the dangers of your microwave yourself by 
  using microwave water to water one seed and regular tap water for the 
  other seed. You will see that the seed using the microwave water will
not 
  sprout. With this in mind, imagine what else your microwave can harm. 
  There have been dozens of studies regarding the dangers of eating
  microwave foods and each of them show health risks and precautions that
we 
  should not only become more aware of but also do something about it.
 
  One of the most influential studies was led by a Swiss biologist 
  taking a
  look at what microwave foods can do to your body overtime. This study 
  consisted of 8 people who were secluded during the study to eat only raw

  foods, conventionally cooked foods and microwave foods. With blood tests

  taken after each meal the biologists running this study found the blood 
  chemistry was greatly altered after eating a microwave dinner. From here

  another study was published regarding what happens when you choose to 
  microwave breast milk for your newborn baby. This study showed that the 
  microwave severely destroyed a great deal of the disease fighting 
  capabilities within the milk, which make breast milk so beneficial to 
  begin with.
 
  Just from these two studies alone you should be getting a clearer 
  idea as
  to what your microwave can do to your health and has been doing over the

  years. Microwaves have attracted so much negative attention over the
years 
  that in Russia, they were banned in 1976 due to studies and reports such

  as the two listed above. Below I have listed some of the other risks and

  negative connections microwaves have been linked to throughout the
dozens 
  of studies and research projects over the years since their creation.
 
  Eating food that has been processed and cooked in a microwave can 
  cause
  permanent brain damage as the microwave can cause shortages in your
brain 
  that can never be reclaimed.
 
  Male and female hormones can shut down or be altered when you 
  continually
  eat foods cooked in the microwave.
  When you microwave foods no matter how much nutrients they may have had
to 
  begin with, you receive little to no benefit from them once the food is 
  cooked in a microwave.
 
  The minerals in vegetables are transformed into cancer forming free
  radicals.
 
  Stomach and intestinal cancer tumors can be caused by microwave 
  foods or
  snacks.
 
  Your immune system can be lowered.
 
  Microwaved foods can cause digestive disorders.
 
  Eating microwave foods regularly can cause your body to stop 
  utilizing the
  vitamins and nutrients it does get; causing colon and digestive 
 

RE: CSGiving shots to humans

2008-05-04 Thread Terry
Lucky guy!  The first victim...er, patient...I ever drew blood from was an
innocent elderly woman.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSGiving shots to humans


At 12:05 PM 5/4/2008, you wrote:

The doctor could jab them with a needle connected to an empty syringe 
and they'd scream just the same.

  Once upon a time, long ago, I was on duty in a clinic in a MASH unit.

I had never given a shot to anyone.

Guess what?  My first Sargent was a patient, and he needed a shot.

Not every one gets to stick his first Sargent in the rear with a huge
needle.

I had seen nurses give it one hard and fast JAB.

I tried that, and the needle did not go it.  It just bounded out.
Darn He hollered in great joy !

So, ... I tried again and drove it in to the hilt, and part of the
syringe.

And. he hollered again.  My mission was complete and I was an 
expert at giving shots,

to the First Sargent, at least.

I never told him about that being the first shot I ever gave anyone.

Wayne

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RE: CSShocking Dangers of Microwaves

2008-05-04 Thread Terry
I think that it has to be made of Reynold's for maximum effectiveness - none
of that store-brand junk!

-Original Message-
From: David Bearrow [mailto:chip...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSShocking Dangers of Microwaves


To protect yourself from this simply build yourself an AFDB.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

A man in Schenectady, NY did in 1999 now he is safe and happy.

Dave

At 09:29 AM 5/4/2008, you wrote:
Subject:  Shocking Dangers of Microwaves


If you are still uncertain regarding your thoughts on microwaves and
the apparent dangers associated with them, there was a tragedy in 
1991 that made everyone stop and think about using their microwaves. 
A man in Oklahoma died from a simple blood transfusion because the 
hospital used a microwave to warm up the blood. If this type of 
tragedy does not open your eyes, nothing will! When hearing a story 
like this it becomes painfully obvious that there is far more to 
heating up food in a microwave than we have been led to believe over 
the years. From this incident alone it is obvious that there are 
some unknown factors regarding how a microwave uses heat to heat up 
foods. When you find yourself using your microwave on a daily basis, 
you too are consuming these same unknowns, which caused an 
unnecessary death so many years ago. 
http://www.naturalhealthontheweb.com/microwaves/dangers.html



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RE: CS Cold and hard

2008-01-28 Thread Terry
...compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs.

 If there are any??? You must be kidding.

-Original Message-
From: faith gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS Cold and hard


Synthetics are NOT NOT NOT identical to natural herbs.  As one example of 
this, just listen to the tv ads that warn of all the horrible side effects 
of these drugs.  Or look up the side effects of these drugs and compare them

with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs.   I don't know 
where Ode gets his ideas.

Recently Ode talked about ceo's, and he asked whether you (the consumer, I 
suppose) could do a ceo's job.  But whether or not one could do a ceo's job 
is the totally wrong question.

The question is:  If you had an employee who was screwing up by the numbers 
and you fired him, would you supply him with a mega-million retirement 
package as a reward for his mis-deeds or insufficiency?

Most of the people I know see Pharma and the FDA as power and money-grubbing

gluttons who have their own interests at heart, not the well-being of the 
people.

Hate-smoke propaganda is an attitude that lives between Ode's ears.

Faith G. 

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CSunsubscribe

2008-01-20 Thread Terry Chamberlin
 
 


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RE: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies

2008-01-19 Thread Terry
From Wikipedia:
 
The term 'Bush Derangement Syndrome refers to a purported tendency by some
HYPERLINK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_liberalismAmerican
liberals to blame HYPERLINK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_PresidentPresident HYPERLINK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._BushGeorge W. Bush for virtually
every ill in the world.HYPERLINK
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-Original Message-
From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies


So painfully true.  

- Original Message - 
From: HYPERLINK mailto:slickpic...@cox.netTerry 
To: HYPERLINK mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies

It's called Bush Derangement Syndrome.

-Original Message-
From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:17 PM
To: HYPERLINK mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies


True. Only under this admin the FDA is like a runaway train.   In its path
of obliteration is all that which originates from free choice.  Young women
approaching child bearing age being   given vaccines (parents are convinced
as well)  designed to circumvent a virus that kills less people yearly than
car accidents?  Under the shrubs watch they were relieved of any and all
moral responsibility, social accountability, financial liability. 

Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote: 

Big pharma and the fascist goons at the FDA were in play long before the
Bush administration.





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RE: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies

2008-01-18 Thread Terry
It's called Bush Derangement Syndrome.

-Original Message-
From: Carol Ann [mailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:17 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies


True. Only under this admin the FDA is like a runaway train.   In its path
of obliteration is all that which originates from free choice.  Young women
approaching child bearing age being   given vaccines (parents are convinced
as well)  designed to circumvent a virus that kills less people yearly than
car accidents?  Under the shrubs watch they were relieved of any and all
moral responsibility, social accountability, financial liability. 

Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote: 

Big pharma and the fascist goons at the FDA were in play long before the
Bush administration.





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RE: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies

2008-01-17 Thread Terry
Big pharma and the fascist goons at the FDA were in play long before the
Bush administration.
 
Sorry Mike, I know it's not a political forum (and I promise won't volley
with bbanever), but I've had enough short-sighted, hate-driven
buffoonishness for one day. 

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Subject: Re: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies


Faith,
 
  We can't get millions to march on congress to stop the war.  Do you
think we'll get millions to demand access to vitamins and minerals?  This
country and much of the world is being taken over by fascists who only want
money and power in the hands of corporations and the priviledged few.  This
is a play by big pharma with the approval of Bush and his fascist goons at
the FDA.  The sicker you are, the more you will spend on drugs.  They do not
want you to be healthy, and worse the don't want anyone to be able to treat
themselves.   These people are pure evil.  

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Subject: Re: CSFDA Announces Plan to Eliminate Vitamin Companies

No, maybe we have to march on Congress.  Millions of Americans must march on
Congres and put a stop to this.  Faith G.

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CSA new blue man

2007-12-20 Thread Terry Chamberlin
This one may cause a gov't reaction (what a perfect
opportunity!).

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861cl=5573716ch=4226726src=news


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CSCS and fish

2007-11-17 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Recently a friend called to enthusiastically report
this: He has a couple of those large fish tanks full
of expensive, exotic fish. One of the fish was sick,
sluggish and covered with a grey film, eyes starting
to glaze over. His wife took the fish out of the tank
and put it in a bowl of CS. The next day, the eyes
were clear and the grey film was gone.

Cool.

Anyone else had a similar experience? How about with
other kinds of pets? (Cats, dogs, birds)


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CS'Health Canada strikes

2007-10-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
See:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/advisories-avis/2007/2007_115_e.html

So it begins here in Canada


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CSunsubscribe

2007-10-06 Thread Terry Chamberlin
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CSSodium chlorite

2007-09-17 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Marshall,
Where did you obtain sodium chlorite and how much did
it cost?

Terry


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CSSpectrophotometer needed

2007-09-14 Thread Terry Chamberlin
I recently decided I would like to acquire a
spectrophotometer to accurately test ppm in the CS I
make. I went to ebay and discovered that there are
many devices that have that label.

Can anyone here tell me what type of spectrophotometer
I need to accurately determine ppm in CS? Where would
I be likely to find a used (lower-priced) one?

I remember Bob Burger once said that he had paid $150
for his used one, but I don't see any prices that low
on ebay.

Terry Chamberlin


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CSVit C ascorbates

2007-05-14 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Harold said,
 To smooth out ascorbic acid and make Sodium
ascorbate, which is a better way to take...

Actually, calcium ascorbate is much better than sodium
ascorbate. Even potassium ascorbate or magnesium
ascorbate (both hard to find) would be better than
extra sodium.


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CSPlug-in products

2007-05-04 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Received from a friend:

Received from a friend who is in the property
insurance business. It is
well worth reading. This is one of those e-mails that
if you didn't send
it, rest assured someone on your list will suffer for
not reading it. The
original message was written by a lady whose brother
and his wife learned a
hard lesson this past week. Their house burned
down... Nothing left but
ashes. They have good insurance so the house will be
replaced with most of
the contents - that is the good news. However, they
were sick when they
found out the cause of the fire.

   The insurance investigator sifted through the
ashes for several hours.
He had the cause of the fire traced to the master
bathroom. He asked her
sister-in-law what she had plugged in the bathroom.
She listed the normal
thingscurling iron, blow dryer. He kept saying to
her, No, this would
be something that would disintegrate at high
temperatures.

Then her sister-in-law remembered she had a Glade
Plug-In, in the
bathroom. The investigator said that was the cause of
the fire. He said he
has seen more house fires started with the plug-in
type room fresheners
than anything else. He said the plastic they are made
from is THIN plastic.
He also said that in every case there was nothing
left to prove that it
even existed. When the investigator looked in the
wall plug, sure enough
the two prongs left from the plug-in were still in
there.

Her sister-in-law had one of the plug-ins that
had a small night light
built in it. She said she had noticed that the light
would dim and then
finally go out. She would walk in to the bathroom a
few hours later, and
the light would be back on again. The investigator
said that it was getting
too hot, and would dim and go out rather than just
blow the light bulb.
Once it cooled down it would come back on. That is a
warning sign. The
investigator said he personally wouldn't have any
type of plug in fragrance
device anywhere in his house. He has seen too many
places that have been
burned down due to them.

 HOUSE FIRES PLEASE READ (From Chief Dornell)

Ok, I had one similar to this at my place in the
mountains; it used the
slide-in packets. Last weekend I unplugged it to use
the outlet and found
that the unit had melted and scorched the face of the
outlet so I decided
to replace the outlet I went to my panel and shut off
the circuit breaker.

   Upon pulling the cover plate I found that the
outlet had burnt away,
melted a considerable portion in the interior plastic
wall box and wire
insulation. Obviously, this got very hot and I was
very lucky that this did
not cause a fire in the wall because I would have
certainly lost my place.

   Notice that my breaker did not trip and I manually
shut it off.  I need
to investigate why. Perhaps it was a steady current
and never caused a
surge or arcing that would have tripped the circuit
breaker. I am
encouraging everyone I know to pass on the fact that
these are potentially
dangerous. The Consumer Products Safety Commission
does not have a recall
on the specific model that I was using. However, they
will be hearing from
me. Our Fire Prevention personnel will be using the
remnant that I brought
back to help spread the word through the Fire
Prevention community as well.

   If you use something similar to this or other
plug-in products take
the time to pull them and toss them. We can't afford
to be the proving
grounds for these devices. It is my opinion that
these are unsafe and
should be pulled before something tragic occurs.

This danger in addition to the toxic chemicals they
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CSNancy - hot tub death

2007-05-02 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Nancy referred to her husband as Mike. The article
lists it as Mariano. Could be a nickname, I suppose.
But I thought she had been killed in a car accident?


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CSCS video

2007-05-02 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Dee said,
 Excellent video and very convincing, although it
would make people wary of other products other than
the one being sold 

That was my complaint. The speaker manipulated the
audiences impressions. He never SAID that all other
products were dangerous or ineffective, but he implied
it (plausible deniability).

He started right off by defining 'ionic' as a chemical
process, which CAN be accurate. But, in fact, 'ionic'
simply means a particle with a charge, whether caused
by a chemical or electric process (as we do). From
that point on, I knew not to trust him, as he either
was not the authority he claimed to be, or else he was
in fact deliberately misleading his audience, which he
was. He made the distinct point that everybody else
but them uses DC electricity to brew their CS, then
referred to 'ionic' as coming from a chemical process,
which would NOT be a DC process.

The great effort he made to cause the unscientific to
come to the conclusions he wanted them to (that their
product was fundamentally different than and superior
to anything else on the planet) did more to convince
me that, were my product (or almost anyone else's) to
have been that used in their testing, the results
would have been similar. If I had the money to buy EPA
officials, I could do what they are doing (they are
owned, in fact, by Clifton Silver Mines).

It was the same ole Barnum  Bailey type of marketing,
conning the gullible, taking advantage of the
listeners ignorance and lack of familiarity with the
subject to misguide (deceive) them into coming to the
right conclusions, promising wonderous results and
threatening dire consequences for even considering the
competitions products. The ole Carrot  Stick ploy.

To have to resort to this kind of marketing hype
convinces me of the validity of our own home-made
stuff even more. Methinks Thou Dost Protest too much
(or too dishonestly).

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CSNancy's journal

2007-05-02 Thread Terry Chamberlin
 If you don't mind my asking..how, when and why
did you come by Nancy's journal. 

Nancy called me about five years ago to inquire about
purchasing one of my 10-gallon per batch devices.

When she told me her story, I said, Can you write
this down and send it to me? This is amazing!

She said, I'll do better, I'll send you my journal.

I tidied it up a bit, corrected misspellings, etc.,
and have been sending it to folks ever since.

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CSMelamine

2007-05-02 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Mary said,
 I am a non toxic house cleaner everyone tells me to
use Mr. clean magic erasers, for a long time I could
not find what it is made from. Well I found it--
melamine foam.
Is this the same melamine found in the pet foods that
are killing our pets 

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine


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CSNancy's death

2007-05-02 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Alternative therapy may have led to deaths

Of all the stupid, irrelevant, misleading titles to
put on an article, this takes the cake.

Nothing in the article even suggested that her
involvement in Alternative Therapy had anything to do
with her death. Is a hot tub alternative therapy?
Maybe the golf cart was alternative therapy?

And no, unless they drove the golf cart into the hot
tub and crushed themselves, it had nothing to do with
their deaths. 

On the amazing side, the quotations from her journal
would certainly catch my attention if I was an MS
victim reading this article.


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CSCancer

2007-05-01 Thread Terry Chamberlin
For cancer of any type, look here:

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy.htm


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CSCS video

2007-05-01 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Somebody watch this video and give feedback. (Techies)

http://nutronix.typepad.com/healthyagainbiz/2007/04/keith_moeller_o.html


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CSIn memory of Nancy

2007-04-29 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Nancy used to call me each year or so to update me
about how she was doing. She had purchased one of my
10-gallon-per batch CS-brewers about five years ago,
which enabled her to give away a lot of CS. She was a
very generous woman.

She was a positive, cheerful, hopeful person whom I
enjoyed chatting with. I know she is having more fun
right now than we are!

My prayers go out to her husband.

For those of you whom I have not sent it to, I have a
copy of her 2-year journal that she kept as she
vanquished MS with CS. Contact me and I will send it
to you.

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CSGood farmers/dairies vs commercial

2007-04-29 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Becca said,
 Those cows [in Oregon] lived in large pastures, only
going in to the barn for milking twice a day, or if
one was sick. I also think it is the Beef cattle that
are fed the unspeakable parts, and I agree that that
should stop immediately, if not sooner!!! 

I wish that were automatically true, Becca. To make
sure, go visit a local dairyman. Ask him if he feeds
his cows any grains in addition to the grass they eat
(he almost has to, or his cows will not give him
enough milk to compete against the other dairies). If
he does, is it organic (meaning, nothing but grains,
grown without pesticides, herbicides, etc.)? If it is
not, the milking feed grain is 80% likely to contain
‘rendered’ animals, which is what I was referring to.
The fact is, apart from unusually good nutrition
(truly organic), the addition of protein to the cow’s
feed (whatever the protein source) increases their
milk production (at the expense of the cows health).
In fact, nearly ALL commercial feed-grain is
supplemented with rendered animals.

Yes, they give to beef cows whatever will cause them
to get fat (animal parts of every imaginable species,
sawdust, cement, etc.) since the cow is sold by the
pound. Since the cows are not going to live very long
– headed as they are to the dinner table – they do not
need to be healthy, merely big, fat and profitable.
Why sawdust? Hey! It is fiber! Plus, it keeps the
cement moving (I am sorry, I did not make this up, it
is really true).

If you actually want to know more about this (few
people do – it is much too upsetting), contact me and
I will send you the info. Beware, it is
trauma-inducing.

I am not a vegetarian, but I will no more buy
commercial beef or chicken than I would buy commercial
rat meat (come to think of it, there is a closer
similarity to that than you think!). I buy from local
hobby farm folks who disagree with the need to use
antibiotics as a disease preventative, nor to inject
steroids to get more milk. Their chickens run around
and eat bugs and seeds and weeds and get sunshine and
fresh air and lay eggs it takes a knife to break open.
I do not need to be a vegetarian with food like that
available!

If you can find small farmers with that philosophy,
support them!

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CSMisc topics

2007-04-24 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Zoe said,
 OK my question is, is this [water] good enough to be
making CS or should I just use it for drinking
purposes? 

Any water is good enough (except for water with toxic
chemicals). The point is to try to make clear CS (or
as clear as you can). If your water turns yellow or
murky after a certain amount of brewing time, brew
slightly less time the next batch. As long as it is
clear or nearly clear, the silver particles are too
tiny to be of any concern. The more minerals are in
your water, the sooner it will acquire a color or
become murky while brewing (from the silver particles
aggregating to the minerals). The simple, fool-proof
CS-brewing principle is: brew it as long as you can
while still ending up with clear or near-clear CS.

It does not matter what water you use or what minerals
are in the water if your CS is clear. If your water is
so full of minerals that you cannot brew more than a
minute or so before it becomes cloudy, you can still
brew perfectly good, perfectly safe CS, but it will
have less actual silver in it and you may need to
drink more of it to get the same benefit. If you use
something like well-water (full of minerals), it would
measure at a high PPM, but not all of that PPM will be
silver.


Wendy said,
 I know we've talked about vitamin A supplementation
recently. Does anyone have links or information on
'how much' we and our children REALLY need or can
handle.

I quote from a site:
100,000 IU per day can be tolerated by adults with no
serious side effects but children who ingest 50,000 IU
per day do show toxicity.
http://foodsupplements.homestead.com/A.html 

When you look at government standards of optimal Vit A
dosages, the same thing occurs as when you look at
what the government says about colloidal silver. The
government/medical/pharmaceutical folks absolutely
refuse to make any distinction between silver
compounds (which are technically colloidal) and pure,
water-and-silver, electro-colloids. With Vit A, they
also refuse to make any distinction between natural,
fish-oil Vit A and synthetic, unnatural substances
such as retinyl or retinol palmitate (made from
retinoic acid). See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinyl_palmitate 

There was a doctor some years ago who was treating
cancer with mega-doses of Vit A. (I’ve lost the book,
so cannot remember his name.) He gave his patients 3
million I.U.s of fish-oil-derived Vit A every day with
no sign of overdose. He said every recorded case of
Vit A overdose was from synthetic Vit A. He also had
such success with cancer he was persecuted.

The Inuit Eskimo Indians who live far north and never
see a white man (nor eat his diet) average 650,000
I.U.s of Vit A per day all winter with never a sign of
overdose.

Even with its toxicity, retinoic acid has benefits.
See:
http://lungdiseases.about.com/b/a/166861.htm
www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/05/1044318669710.html
www.breastcancer-treatment.us/news/latest-news/vitamin-a-and-c-synergistically-fight-breast-cancer-cell-growth.html
www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/wu_vitamin_a.html

On the subject of cancer, see this very good site:
http://www.longislandpress.co.uk/fightingcancer/

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CSHealth issues

2007-04-21 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Simeon said,
 Will you please share some of your successes with
fighting disease or direct us if we can read about
them on the internet. 

Do you mean specific diseases, or just ones general
health? If you have specific health issues, post them
on this list, there are many here (in addition to
myself) who have had success with many issues who will
be delighted to share with you.

You want to start educating and empowering yourself
and reprogramming yourself away from the allopathic
'make the symptoms go away and that must mean that
you're OK' philosophy (hey, I just made that up!).

I have an info CD that is the accumulation of years of
searching for answers for myself and others that is
(gasp!) for sale.  (Sorry, Mike)

It contains 1200+ articles on 100+ topics. And it only
costs $25! If you are interested, contact me off-list.

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CSWorking with your doctor

2007-04-20 Thread Terry Chamberlin
you need, as you keep talking with others of like mind
(HELP your body, not force it), what you need to know
about resolving your own health issues will rise to
the surface, will become clearer and clearer to you,
what you should do. The PROCESS of searching for
answers will change you and make you able to benefit
from the answers that come to you. That searching
process is an important part of experiencing healing. 

Be aware: the searching process is at first hard, and
fraught with discouragement and despair. It is when
you KEEP searching when it seems a waste of time, when
you are even criticized for searching but you refuse
to stop, that something wonderful will happen inside
you. I am not talking in theory here, my searching has
been all my life, and I would not have missed it for
the world.

'Holistic' means approaching the problem from all
angles, or as many as you can. Good health is not
found in taking a pill, whatever that pill contains.
Good health is found in approaching life in as healthy
a way as you can. That includes hope and faith and
love and humor as well as diet and exercise and
healthy therapies.

I have become the youth leader at a small church
recently (imagine that! a 59-year old youth leader!),
and the last few months have done more for my health
than anything I have ever done with diet and
nutrition. My energy, frame of mind, diet, sleeping
habits and zest for life have improved exponentially.
The kids (high school) in this group do not know what
to make of me. I am balding, gray, wrinkled and wear a
dental bridge that does not always stay in place, but
I have been places and done things they have only
heard about. My energy equals their own and my zest
for life, love, joy and adventure perplexes them. They
have started bringing their friends to be exposed to
what is happening. 

I had forgotten (this is not the first youth group I
have led, but it has been a long time since the last)
how much love, compassion and passion for life
energizes your mind and body.

I am convinced that love and laughter are a more
effective cancer therapy than nutrition. Better yet,
do them both!

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CSDistilled water vs others

2007-04-20 Thread Terry Chamberlin
 What do people think of the discussions between
distilled water and ionized water for drinking? 

Oh, boy, you put your foot in it this time!

From one of my articles, my own slant:

WATER:
Everyone today is aware of the issue of water purity
and the dangers of chlorinated tap water. But the
importance of water in our diet is not confined to
water purity alone. Water is a carrier in our bodies.
It first is used to carry nutrients throughout our
bodies to the locations where those nutrients are
needed. Then it is used to carry metabolic
waste-products and toxins from throughout the body to
the eliminative organs to be disposed of. To do this,
the water must be empty of all minerals and chemicals.
If it is not, the body must first distill its own
water before utilizing it, which consumes extra
metabolic energy. This full and empty aspect of
water can be seen when you stir sugar into a glass of
water. The first spoonful dissolves and disappears
into the water, but if you keep stirring more sugar
into the water, eventually the sugar stops dissolving.
This is because the water has become saturated with
sugar. In the same way, if the water we put into our
bodies is already full of various substances, the
water will need to be emptied by the body before it
can carry the important nutrients extracted from our
food. 80% of our body is composed of water, and water
is the universal solvent and lubricant. It is the
primary ingredient in the process of digestion, and
plays an important part in every metabolic process
that occurs within our body.

There is controversy over the theoretical value of the
minerals found in water, but because of the importance
to the body for water to be empty, water is not an
essential source of minerals. Indeed, according to Dr.
Carey Reams, more usable minerals are garnered from
the air we breathe than are found in water (which
demonstrates the value of clean, pure air!). In
addition to this, the minerals found in water are
inorganic, metallic minerals, not readily or easily
assimilable by the body, unlike food-derived minerals,
which the plant or animal they come from has converted
to an organic state. Add to this the uncertainty of
the wide variety of kinds and concentrations of
different minerals in the water which can be found in
wells, streams and reservoirs throughout the country,
and it's clear that water is an uncertain and
sometimes even risky source of minerals.

Although there are numerous processes used to purify
water (charcoal filtered, reverse-osmosis, deionised,
etc.), steam distillation is the process which fully
purifies and empties the water of not only all
pollutants, but of all minerals. Charcoal filtering is
an excellent method for removing most pollutants, but
does not remove minerals. Reverse-osmosis can remove
pollutants and minerals, but creates a negative-energy
state on the molecular level that interferes with
healthy metabolism. De-ionization removes minerals,
but the resin beds of this system are breeding grounds
for bacteria. Furthermore, de-ionization is not
efficient in removing synthetic chemicals such as
herbicides, pesticides, insecticides or industrial
solvents. Steam distillation duplicates the process
that occurs in nature (rainwater). It also charges the
water with energy on a molecular level, which energy
is utilized by the body. In fact, the only water that
is more charged with energy than distilled water is
the heavy water found in nuclear reactors.

One of the fallacies you might hear concerning
distilled water is the idea that distilled water will
remove or leach minerals from your body. But, in
fact, rather than removing minerals from your body,
your body must first remove the minerals from the
water you drink in order to best utilize it. Rain
water has always been the purest natural source of
water (though not any longer, of course, because of
pollution in the air). Rain water is nature's steam
distilled water, using the power of the sun.

End of article.

Let me add that I very much like the suggestion of
Mike Devour about adding Concentrace to distilled
water to get a mineral water with non-metallic
minerals that are easily assimilated by the body.

But also, I like to give my body empty water that it
can use to cleanse itself, as well as carry essential
nutrients to where they are needed.

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CSNot pH again! Yep.

2007-04-14 Thread Terry Chamberlin
 is that there are important
qualifiers to be taken into consideration. Even in my
own case, I have been representing pH in simplistic
terms in order to present the basic concept. In my own
practise, pH is only one of five tests, and each test
result affects and qualifies the results of the other
tests. In addition to the four other tests besides pH,
other qualifiers include age, weight, diet, stress
level and belief system. A client with a urine or
saliva pH of, say, 5.5 (a very acid pH) will concern
me more if they are 70+ years old than if they are 25;
if they are greatly overweight than if they are very
thin; if their outlook on life is negative and
discouraged than if they are hopeful. I have had much
greater success with folks who have a deep faith and
hope in God than with negative atheists; with people
who strive to love others than with people who feel
that life is every-man-for-himself.

I test to see how well the client is metabolizing
proteins (urea levels), which is an important
qualifier of pH; how high the total electrolite level
is in their body, which also qualifies pH readings. If
the level of cellular debris (dead cells leaving their
body) is high or low, that greatly qualifies pH
readings.

Dr. Reams taught that 6.4/6.4 was the perfect pH  IF 
you were perfectly healthy. In practise, I try to get
the acidic pH of my clients up above what I consider
balanced for awhile (7.4-7.6), overcompensating until
their metabolism balances out. But I do even that far
less with folks who are younger than with seniors. It
is not just, Are you acid? It is also, How long have
you been acid? Overly-acidic pH generally indicates a
deficiency; Overly-alkaline pH generally indicates an
excess. In some ways, both affect you the same.

 He considers a healthy first saliva test of the day
to be around 6.4 to 6.6, but ideally 6.7 to 7.  He
also suggests doing a lemon juice saliva test. The
body should react quickly to an extremely acid
condition by flushing alkalinity into the mouth and
within minutes we should have readings of 8 or above,
if not, this is apparently another indication of lack
of alkaline minerals. 

Actually, because I am primarily concerned with
anionic/cationic rather than alkaline/acid, I consider
the above concept to be erroneous. Fresh lemon juice
is pure anionic (which normally corresponds to
alkaline). After it has been exposed to air for 20-30
minutes, it becomes cationic (which normally
corresponds to acidic). Dr. Reams used fresh-squeezed
lemon juice to initiate healing in the body. It was so
powerful that, if one is not careful, it can cause a
healing crisis.

Strangely, although I reject the concept that alkaline
pH is healthy, with most of my clients I strive to
bring them up into the alkaline pH range, at least
initially. What I am finally after is BALANCED pH.

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CSConcentrace, Wallach, etc.

2007-04-13 Thread Terry Chamberlin
 supply of the Wallach
stuff will cost you at least $60, plus shipping.

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CSMother of the year

2007-04-13 Thread Terry Chamberlin
You have to see this.

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CSpH, etc.

2007-04-13 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Dan said,
 Is it possible for you to give the actual pH ranges
for the states referred to below? Also, is 6.4/6.4
correct?  That is slightly acid, and I have heard
figures indicating it should be 7.4/7.4. 

In a laboratory, the pH range for chemicals is 0-14,
which would make 7.0 balanced. Dr. Reams taught that
6.4 was balanced for the human metabolism (you are
probably referring to blood pH, which must stay very
close to 7.4 – 7.35-7.45). Since 6.5 is 10X as
alkaline as 6.4, and 6.6 is 10X as alkaline as 6.5,
then you can see why I would consider 7.4 to be quite
alkaline. Every person I have tested since 1984, when
I first started testing folks, who had pH in the
7.0-8.0 range were all suffering from the kinds of
issues that overly-alkaline people have: constipation,
higher body temperature, sinus issues, headaches, ear
infections, heart and lung issues, body odor, upper
skeletal and shoulder problems...the list goes on.

The ranges I think you are asking about are regarding
this that I described:

 From balanced pH it will go to double alkaline
(urine/saliva), then acid urine and alkaline saliva,
then alkaline urine and acid saliva, then double acid,
then death. 

If that is not what you were asking about, ask again.

Acid is anything below 6.4, alkaline is anything over
it. Double alkaline can be 6.5/6.5 all the way up to
8.4/8.4 (the highest pH I ever encountered in a
client), or higher, although folks with pH that high
are in a very serious condition. The pH paper I use
only goes as low as 5.5, but I once had a woman client
with a pH of 4.2/4.4 (using my pH chemicals to test
her). She later died from her terminal cancer. I
believe I could have helped her, but she just would
not do what I recommended (I don’t like to take
pills; That stuff tastes icky.). 

The client with the 8.4/8.4 pH had a bowel movement
every 3 weeks. She owned a Health Food store and
advised her clients on appropriate supplements. She
scorned my recommendations and thought she merely
needed more fiber in her diet. I assure you, fiber
would have made absolutely no difference! She could
eat herbal laxatives like candy with no affect! She
was a prime candidate for abdominal cancer of some
kind (uterus, colon, liver, etc.).

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CSVarious posts

2007-04-13 Thread Terry Chamberlin

Dee said,
 Actually, that doesn't sound bad to me Terry.  I
have just paid £13 ($22) something for 57mls.  I
expect the postage from you would be prohibitive
though wouldn't it? Do you have a web site Terry? 

Give me your address and I will determine the exact
shipping and let you know. Also, how many bottles?
Obviously, the larger the order, the cheaper per
bottle the shipping. I do not have a website because
of the legal issues with both recommending CS and also
selling it.

Clayton Family said,
 there is a lot of salt in Concentrace- more so.

Actually, no. The company that bottles Concentrace
takes out most of the sodium before selling it.

Sandee said,
 Hi There Terry - thanks for this - I have heard both
arguments before however you put it very clearly, now
where can I get the Concentrace at a reasonable
price? 

Call whatever HF stores are near you and ask for it.
If they do not carry it, contact friends who are not
near you whom you visit periodically and ask them to
call the HF stores near them. If no one carries it, I
can ship it to you - $30 plus shipping.

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CSStill more pH stuff

2007-04-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Wendy said,
 is this the same for children as well as adults? I
was thinking we can all do it at the same time as I am
curious to know how the kids are doing. 

Yes, you can test the whole family each morning and
evening. Send me the numbers for everyone and I will
explain them.

Folks, I have no hidden sales agenda in doing this. I
will sell you pH paper or Concentrace if you cannot
find it at your local HF store, but both of them will
be cheaper if you find them in a store. It costs me
nothing to tell you what your pH numbers mean, and if
it helps you, I am happy.

Duncan said,
..it's rare that someone is too alkaline, and if you
were, the yogurt would be a good bet. 

Most children below 14 or 15 years old are usually
alkaline (but less and less as time goes by), and I
still run into the occasional adult who is. 

From the time you are born, your pH follows a pattern.
A healthy baby will have balanced numbers – 6.4/6.4
(urine/saliva). Unless they are fortunate enough to
have health fanatic parents (lets face it, that is
what you have to be today), and parents who also
passed on excellent health to their children, the
health of the child will follow a predictable decline
pattern as indicated in their pH: From balanced pH it
will go to double alkaline (urine/saliva), then acid
urine and alkaline saliva, then alkaline urine and
acid saliva, then double acid, then death. 

Note: Depending on how mineralized/demineralized their
body was to begin with, that double acid pH can last
for many years before serious health issues/death
occurs. In the early 80s, I did not see double acid
except in seniors. Now I am sometimes finding it in
teenagers. You will notice that arthritis, cancer and
heart disease are also occurring in children today.
There is a connection.

In the pH decline pattern I described above, I did not
mention fluctuating pH. Most folks between about 30-60
years old have fluctuating pH. How it fluctuates, how
often it fluctuates, how far (wide) it fluctuates, how
consistent the fluctuation is, these all tell me
things about what is going on inside you.

What health is primarily about is the mineral
situation inside the body. (I am speaking about the
physical dimension, not the emotional/spiritual
dimension.) We are MADE of minerals, and our bodies
use up minerals each day, and the condition/balance of
our health affects the utilization of those minerals.
The pH gives me insight into how low our savings
account of minerals is (what Dr. Reams called our
Mineral Reserve). We are born with a certain Mineral
Reserve, and that is that (it is like being born
large-boned or small-boned – you cannot change from
one to the other). Dr. Reams explained that if you
were born with a Mineral Reserve of – picking an
arbitrary number – 100 (whatever), and you squandered
much of it being raised on the Standard North American
Diet, what you would give to your children would be
less than YOU started out with. If they do the same,
passing on to their children a bit less than they
started out with, you can see what is happening in our
country as the generations go by. 

Remember, what you were born with is it, and even if
you become a health freak and
eat/exercise/supplement/think/live in an amazingly
healthy way, the most you can accomplish is to regain
what was lost and approach what you were born with.

Sigh. I have probably put a quarter in the
Controversial Discussion machine now!

Maybe I better quit while I am behind.

One last point. In attempting to balance your pH, it
is NOT enough just to supplement the correct calcium.
The REST of the minerals, especially the trace
minerals, must accompany the right calcium. That is
why I am always recommending Concentrace.

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CSpH testing instructions

2007-04-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Here is the instruction portion of my pH testing page:

Performing the pH tests

To perform the pH tests for yourself to determine your
calcium and nutritional imbalances, or prior to my
performing the rest of the Bioanalysis tests, you will
need to test your urine and saliva each morning and
evening for 6 days in a row. The first time you
urinate each morning is too concentrated to use for
testing, so do not test that. The exception to this
would be if you have already used the washroom only a
few hours before arising for the day. The first test
should be before eating in the morning. Also, do not
do any tests for an hour after eating (such as in the
evening). You also should not have drunk anything just
(say, 20 minutes) before testing saliva. You will need
to put a sample of each in separate small, clean
containers to dip the pH paper in. Do not put the pH
paper in your mouth or urinate directly onto the pH
paper (the chemicals can come off). After you have
dipped a piece of the pH paper (3/8”-1/2” long) into
the specimen, immediately compare it to the color
chart on the side of the pH paper container. Use a
separate pH strip for each specimen and each test.

I would recommend testing in the morning before eating
or drinking anything. Even if you drink water, you
should allow 15-20 minutes afterwards before testing
saliva. In the evening, testing should be at least one
hour after eating. You don’t have to follow a rigid
schedule, but neither should you test at 7:00 AM one
morning and 11:30 the next morning. Try to keep it
within a reasonable period, say between 7:00 – 8:00
each morning (or 9:00-10:00, or something like that)
and the same in the evening, say, between 7:00-8:00,
or 10:00-11:00 each evening. Try to do it during the
same time periods each day. Try to allow at least 8
hours between morning and evening testing times.

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CSPh strip usage

2007-04-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Pat said,
 I have questions too.how to use Concentrace so
you don't have to taste it. I've mixed it in juice,
but yuck! 

Concentrace mixes best in salty-tasting items. I put
it in soups and stews without noticing it.

Here is the content from an article about it:

Concentrace usage

The first thing to understand about taking Concentrace
is that it is the most concentrated mineral supplement
being sold today. When you first start taking
Concentrace, your body may be amazed and even stunned
at the amount of minerals it is receiving. It may have
trouble assimilating them until it gets used to it.
Many folks start off taking half what the label
suggests, until their body can adjust to it. One half
teaspoon of Concentrace provides more minerals than
today’s modern diet provides in a week, including
minerals that are not found at all in processed foods.

If you take more than your body can assimilate, your
body will get rid of the excess through loose stools
or even diarrhea. If this happens, cut back or even
stop for a day, then resume with a lower amount. After
a day or two, you can usually increase your dose. Many
people, wanting to remineralize their bodies after
years of eating mineral-poor processed foods, will
gradually increase their intake until they reach the
loose stools level, then cut back slightly. I have
clients who take one teaspoon twice a day without any
reaction.

How to get around the flavor: Concentrace mixes in
well with soups and stews and other salty-tasting
foods. You can mix it in pizza, spaghetti and lasagna
sauce. I’m told it mixes well with tomato and V-8
juice (I have not tried it). If mixed into apple juice
into which you have also stirred nutritional yeast,
you cannot taste the Concentrace. If you put 2 drops
per 8 oz. of your drinking water, you will barely
taste it, and if you are drinking the amount of water
you should be drinking, you will get a lot of minerals
that way. Or of course you can mix 10 drops into a
glass of water and gulp it down, it’s really not bad.
I guess.

The most common effect reported by those who regularly
take Concentrace is improved regularity. This is not
because Concentrace acts like a laxative, but because
your body uses the minerals to manufacture digestive
enzymes, resulting in improved digestion. Other people
report increased energy, clearer complexion, shinier
hair and a stronger immune system. Combined with
determining and taking the right type of calcium
needed by your body, Concentrace addresses the most
basic nutritional needs your body has.

 Also, when doing the ph testingyou use the first
a.m. saliva and the second urine of the day? 

See my instruction post.

 Why do they say to put it into a cup first? 

You actually can dip the pH strip into a little pool
of saliva in your mouth, but be careful not to lick
it, as the chemicals will come off (affecting the
reading). If you urinate onto the strip, you will wash
off the chemicals.

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CSp...@zoomnet.net

2007-04-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
You posted on the silver-list,
 My daughter-in-law sent me an e-mail this morning
saying that our grandson's doctor wants to test him
for autism. He does seem to have some of the
characteristics, namely repetitive actions and delayed
speech. He just turned 2 years old a few weeks ago, 
I'm trying to find the best protocols to deal with it.
Does anyone have any experience with how to do the
detoxing? 

Go to:
http://www.waiora.com

This product is having amazing results with autistic
children. It is sold through network marketing, which
increases the price, but I have seen astounding
results in my area with it. If I had an autistic
child, I would not hesitate. Ask them to refer you to
a local distributor. Ask them how you can get info
about its use for autism. If you become a distributor,
it lowers the price by more than the cost of becoming
a distributor.

Terry Chamberlin



  


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CSMissing pH post

2007-04-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
I received a digest that listed me as a poster, but my
posts were missing (just a large blank space). Here
they are again:

Wendy said,
 is this the same for children as well as adults? I
was thinking we can all do it at the same time as I am
curious to know how the kids are doing. 

Yes, you can test the whole family each morning and
evening. Send me the numbers for everyone and I will
explain them.

Folks, I have no hidden sales agenda in doing this. I
will sell you pH paper or Concentrace if you cannot
find it at your local HF store, but both of them will
be cheaper if you find them in a store. It costs me
nothing to tell you what your pH numbers mean, and if
it helps you, I am happy.

Duncan said,
..it's rare that someone is too alkaline, and if you
were, the yogurt would be a good bet. 

Most children below 14 or 15 years old are usually
alkaline (but less and less as time goes by), and I
still run into the occasional adult who is. 

From the time you are born, your pH follows a pattern.
A healthy baby will have balanced numbers – 6.4/6.4
(urine/saliva). Unless they are fortunate enough to
have health fanatic parents (lets face it, that is
what you have to be today), and parents who also
passed on excellent health to their children, the
health of the child will follow a predictable decline
pattern as indicated in their pH: From balanced pH it
will go to double alkaline (urine/saliva), then acid
urine and alkaline saliva, then alkaline urine and
acid saliva, then double acid, then death. 

Note: Depending on how mineralized/demineralized their
body was to begin with, that double acid pH can last
for many years before serious health issues/death
occurs. In the early 80s, I did not see double acid
except in seniors. Now I am sometimes finding it in
teenagers. You will notice that arthritis, cancer and
heart disease are also occurring in children today.
There is a connection.

In the pH decline pattern I described above, I did not
mention fluctuating pH. Most folks between about 30-60
years old have fluctuating pH. How it fluctuates, how
often it fluctuates, how far (wide) it fluctuates, how
consistent the fluctuation is, these all tell me
things about what is going on inside you.

What health is primarily about is the mineral
situation inside the body. (I am speaking about the
physical dimension, not the emotional/spiritual
dimension.) We are MADE of minerals, and our bodies
use up minerals each day, and the condition/balance of
our health affects the utilization of those minerals.
The pH gives me insight into how low our savings
account of minerals is (what Dr. Reams called our
Mineral Reserve). We are born with a certain Mineral
Reserve, and that is that (it is like being born
large-boned or small-boned – you cannot change from
one to the other). Dr. Reams explained that if you
were born with a Mineral Reserve of – picking an
arbitrary number – 100 (whatever), and you squandered
much of it being raised on the Standard North American
Diet, what you would give to your children would be
less than YOU started out with. If they do the same,
passing on to their children a bit less than they
started out with, you can see what is happening in our
country as the generations go by. 

Remember, what you were born with is it, and even if
you become a health freak and
eat/exercise/supplement/think/live in an amazingly
healthy way, the most you can accomplish is to regain
what was lost and approach what you were born with.

Sigh. I have probably put a quarter in the
Controversial Discussion machine now!

Maybe I better quit while I am behind.

One last point. In attempting to balance your pH, it
is NOT enough just to supplement the correct calcium.
The REST of the minerals, especially the trace
minerals, must accompany the right calcium. That is
why I am always recommending Concentrace.

Terry Chamberlin



  


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CSMissing pH post 2

2007-04-12 Thread Terry Chamberlin
This is the other missing post.

Marshalee said,
 How about calcium orotate?? I`m taking a preparation
of it with magnesium orotate, and it is helping me a
lot. My bone spurs in the toes are even disappearing!


Calcium orotate is a very good, alkaline calcium. I
haven’t been able to find it much, and it was very
expensive when I did. As an example, ordering it in
bulk from a pharmaceutical supply, 100 grams of
calcium citrate costs $6.25; 100 grams of calcium
orotate costs $66! Where are you getting it, and how
much is it? If you are acidic, it is just the thing.

Dee said,
 Could this be any yoghurt i.e. Commercial,
supermarket fruit types or just plain, or would you
have to make it yourself? 

Any yogurt has calcium lactate in it (generated by the
fermentation process that creates yogurt), but
commercial yogurt is not nearly as good for you. If
you must eat commercial yogurt, make it plain, adding
your own flavoring. Calcium lactate is a very strong,
high-energy calcium (especially in supplement form),
and can change your pH fairly quickly. If you were
eating, say, a quart per day (as an example of a large
amount), it would be wise to keep an eye on your pH,
to see if it was dropping much.

Connie said,
 Could you advise how or where one could find out
their pH? 

Call the HF stores around you and tell them you need
pH paper that measures in .2 increments. The brand I
use is made by a company called Greens Plus. I do not
know if they sell in the US. If you cannot find it
anywhere, I can sell it to you for $20, but it will be
cheaper if you can find it at a HF store. I also have
an instruction page for how to conduct the testing,
with places to write down the daily numbers. If you do
the 6-day testing and send the numbers to me, I will
tell you what they mean.

Along this line, although your body uses more calcium
in volume each day than all other nutrients put
together, and giving your body the calcium it needs
can bring about significant improvements in your
health, the essential need for the trace minerals is
paramount. We have all heard how the body uses
magnesium with calcium, but, in reality, it uses the
trace minerals much, much more. If you have any
symptoms of calcium deficiency (although it is almost
a given with most people), you need to add a
multi-mineral supplement to your life. It should be
liquid (to optimize assimilation) and it should be as
many minerals as possible (70-80+). That is why I like
Concentrace, which has 100+ minerals, is liquid and is
not sold multi-level (which makes it reasonably
priced).

The relationship in our bodies between calcium and the
rest of the minerals is like this:

Picture the human body as if it were a brick wall.
This wall is made up of bricks, plus the mortar that
holds them together. In the case of the body, the
bricks represent calcium, and the mortar is all the
rest of the minerals that the body uses for life and
health. Obviously, without bricks there would be no
wall, but equally obvious is that without the mortar,
the bricks would not hold together. 

Terry Chamberlin


  


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