Re: CSarthritic pain

[Garrick]

I avoid all sea salt that has any anti-caking additives however benign.
Anti-caking additives let the salt flow and not lump up.
My least expensive good sea salt is from Frontier Naturals out of Iowa. The
fine grind has additives...I get only the coarse version because no
anti-caking additives in it. I grind up the coarse in a Vita-Mix blender and
keep in a glass jar with a plastic lid. It lumps up without additives but we
just deal with it :)

I recently stumbled upon Celtic sea salt...grayish looking...From Eden
Foods. In a nice glass jar with plastic lid. Only $4 for lb. Bought some

I bought some Himalayan salt for the heck of it. It looks very nice and
reddish-pink. Himalayan salt is ancient sea salt from an ancient ocean.

Be careful just drinking distilled. It is devoid of minerals you might need.
Devoid of calcium and magnesium for sure. Adding sea salt won't do it. Maybe
enhanced calcium and magnesium supplementation will.

The distilled versus not-distilled debate has been going on for years

garrick








On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:52 PM, leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

  Thank you so much. Oh, and one more thing. What about getting one of the
 best sea salts? Right now around here you can only buy Hain brand. I am
 drinking distilled water and have heard that you need to add a little sea
 salt.

 Lee

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, June 13, 2010 9:21 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSarthritic pain

 When I said magnesium chloride flakes they are from a natural source. An
 ancient sea in Holland. Nigari is a Japanese natural form of magnesium
 chloride that is a byproduct of making sea salt. In both cases you don't get
 100% magnesium chloride. You get other natural compounds found in seawater

 Both the above are preferable to getting magnesium chloride from a chemical
 supply house. Not pure enough according to some on the internet. Might have
 lead and other heavy metals...so say some

 I would get the natural form and see if you do better with it

 garrick




 On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 8:17 PM, leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

  Interesting. What does the Nigari do that magnesium chloride doesn't? I
 have some Mag. Chloride that I bought to help stop muscle spasms and it
 seems worse whenever I take it. It is strong; like a chemical. Did buy from
 a chemical company in Ca. Also, magnesium is supposed to help with any kind
 of heart problems. Is this true?
 Lee

  - Original Message -
 *From:* Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
  *Sent:* Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:33 PM
 *Subject:* Re: CSarthritic pain

  What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup
 waterBut I ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of
 flakes. You will know when too many flakes have been added because they
 won't dissolve. No big deal. Just decant the good liquid into another
 container and leave the flakes behind for your next batch

 I am using my home made magnesium oil...

 Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes added
 to it as possible

 garrick








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Re: CSarthritic pain

[Pat Lawrie]

When I got my Mag oil, already made, I put it on my face. And oh yeah, did it 
burn and face turned beet red.
Washed it off immediately. Since then have been using it on feet and ankles 
morning and nite. Still get leg cramps tho. Will buy from the source below and 
also look for an internal pill. I must be really deficient, or it's the 
potassium or.???
Pat




From: mhale mchl.h...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 5:51:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


Are you experiencing any burning sensations or ?
I just ordered 5lb of Nigari from Natural Import
mike




From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 3:33:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain

What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup waterBut I 
ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of flakes. You will know 
when too many flakes have been added because they won't dissolve. No big deal. 
Just decant the good liquid into another container and leave the flakes behind 
for your next batch

I am using my home made magnesium oil...

Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes added to 
it as possible

garrick


  

Re: CSarthritic pain

[Paul Steel]

I dilute my mag oil with 50% pure water. No stinging at all this way
 
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From: Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 9:23:58 AM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


When I got my Mag oil, already made, I put it on my face. And oh yeah, did it 
burn and face turned beet red.
Washed it off immediately. Since then have been using it on feet and ankles 
morning and nite. Still get leg cramps tho. Will buy from the source below and 
also look for an internal pill. I must be really deficient, or it's the 
potassium or.???
Pat




From: mhale mchl.h...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 5:51:54 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


Are you experiencing any burning sensations or ?
I just ordered 5lb of Nigari from Natural Import
mike




From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 3:33:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain

What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup waterBut I 
ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of flakes. You will know 
when too many flakes have been added because they won't dissolve. No big deal. 
Just decant the good liquid into another container and leave the flakes behind 
for your next batch

I am using my home made magnesium oil...

Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes added to 
it as possible

garrick

Re: CSarthritic pain

[needling around]

Hi,
If you have night time leg cramps you could try putting a bar of soap or two 
into your bed.  Wrapped is OK.  It may not work for everyone all the time but 
most of the people I recommend it to are happy with it.  If you still get an 
occasional leg cramp just put a bar of the soap (wrapped is OK) on the center 
of the cramp.  It often helps.

Before anyone asks... I don't think anyone knows why it works.
PT

PS:  if all else fails Standard Process makes a product called MinTran that 
helps muscle spasms.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pat Lawrie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


  When I got my Mag oil, already made, I put it on my face. And oh yeah, did it 
burn and face turned beet red.
  Washed it off immediately. Since then have been using it on feet and ankles 
morning and nite. Still get leg cramps tho. Will buy from the source below and 
also look for an internal pill. I must be really deficient, or it's the 
potassium or.???
  Pat



--
  From: mhale mchl.h...@yahoo.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 5:51:54 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


  Are you experiencing any burning sensations or ?
  I just ordered 5lb of Nigari from Natural Import
  mike



--
  From: Garrick zzen...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 3:33:22 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain

  What I read was half cup magnesium chloride flakes to half cup waterBut I 
ended up adding more flakes than that. At least a cup of flakes. You will know 
when too many flakes have been added because they won't dissolve. No big deal. 
Just decant the good liquid into another container and leave the flakes behind 
for your next batch

  I am using my home made magnesium oil...

  Mag oil is just water that has had as much magnesium chloride flakes added to 
it as possible

  garrick

Re: CSoops

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 6/12/2010 10:38:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
nenahsyl...@cox.net writes:

Sorry  for three of the same posts. I’m having an issue with my  computer. 
Nenah 



Gotta be the gremlins---They get in mine  too...Lois

Re: CSarthritic pain ( Leg cramps soap under the sheets) :-)

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 6/14/2010 9:24:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
doglandi...@yahoo.com writes:

When I got my Mag oil, already made, I put it on my face. And oh yeah,  did 
it burn and face turned beet red.
Washed it off immediately. Since then have been using it on feet and  
ankles morning and nite. Still get leg cramps  tho.



OK Pat--your going to think I'm nuts like I thought my  friend was when she 
told me to put a bar of soap under my bed sheet to stop leg  cramps at 
nightI didn't do it--then another friend told me the same thing.  OK--OK--I 
tried it  it worked for me...2 years now no leg cramps at night..  I told 
other friends  one said she carries a bar of soap with her where  ever she 
goes to stop them . I do have an extra bar at the bedside for when  I get a 
foot cramp {not sure why the one under the sheet doesn't stop them} ..  My 
son thought It was nuts too.. Guess who has a bar of Irish Spring under his  
sheet  :-)   Lois{-Do a search on it--pretty  interesting}

Re: CSarthritic pain ( Leg cramps soap under the sheets) :-)

[Kathy Tankersley]

I, too use the bar of soap between my sheet and mattress pad.  Also, if the 
soap slipped out and I get a cramp, I rub the soap over it.  It really 
helpsKathy
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:40 AM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain ( Leg cramps  soap under the sheets) :-)


  In a message dated 6/14/2010 9:24:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
doglandi...@yahoo.com writes:
When I got my Mag oil, already made, I put it on my face. And oh yeah, did 
it burn and face turned beet red.
Washed it off immediately. Since then have been using it on feet and ankles 
morning and nite. Still get leg cramps tho.
  OK Pat--your going to think I'm nuts like I thought my friend was when she 
told me to put a bar of soap under my bed sheet to stop leg cramps at 
nightI didn't do it--then another friend told me the same thing. OK--OK--I 
tried it  it worked for me...2 years now no leg cramps at night.. I told other 
friends  one said she carries a bar of soap with her where ever she goes to 
stop them . I do have an extra bar at the bedside for when I get a foot cramp 
{not sure why the one under the sheet doesn't stop them} .. My son thought It 
was nuts too.. Guess who has a bar of Irish Spring under his sheet  :-)   
Lois{-Do a search on it--pretty interesting}

Re: CSarthritic pain ( Leg cramps soap under the sheets) :-)

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 6/14/2010 10:56:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tanke...@iland.net writes:

I, too use the bar of soap between my sheet and mattress pad.  Also,  if 
the soap slipped out and I get a cramp, I rub the soap over it.  It  really 
helpsKathy



Hi Kathy, It is interesting just how many people it  helps. When I e-mailed 
my friends about how it helped me I get several replies  about them using 
it also.. I keep a bottle of CS by the bed too incase I forget  to swish at 
bed time..I'm sure that is why  the plaque stays away from my  teeth...Lois

Re: CSarthritic pain

[Renee]

Any bar soap? 
 
samala,
Renee
www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt 
Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 
 
---Original Message---
 
If you have night time leg cramps you could try putting a bar of soap or two 
into your bed.  Wrapped is OK.  

Re: CSarthritic pain Any bar of soap ??

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 6/14/2010 11:33:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
gaiac...@gmail.com writes:

Any bar soap? 



Hi Renee, I've read different views on which bar of  soap to use...I 
grabbed a bar of Caress   my son is using Irish  Spring--- My friend who 
carries 
a bar of soap with her says she carries  Ivory..   I guess it just depends 
what you want to try. Don't know if  one kind works for some folks  another 
for another... It just took me a  long time to figure out that the one who 
told me wasn't just pulling my leg  ---cramp--- :-)   Lois

Re: CSarthritic pain Any bar of soap ??

[Renee]

I've heard this before so it's been around for a while.  I don't have any
cramps, but it's a good thing to know and remember.  I was just curious as
to if a certain brand was needed, but apparently not.  Must be the basic
compound of all bar soaps that does the trick. 
 
samala,
Renee
www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt 
Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 
 
---Original Message---
 
Hi Renee, I've read different views on which bar of soap to use...I grabbed a 
bar of Caress   my son is using Irish Spring--- My friend who carries a bar of 
soap with her says she carries Ivory.. 

Re: CSarthritic pain/NIGARI or magnesium chloride

[Alan Jones]

Thanks for sharing these sources.  With shipping it comes to about $30 for 5
lbs.  I wasn't sure I'd use the stuff so I ended up buying 400gm on ebay for
about $11.50; if I like it I'll go for the 5lbs next.

Anyone have any suggestions on how much oil to spread on the skin each day?

Anyone ingesting this stuff?

Alan


On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote:

  Is this really trueJust add water---in what ratio???

 And is this the same as Nigari

 Gladys

 ===

 Hi Gladys.



 Yes, magnesium oil is the same thing as nigari dissolved in water.
 Nigari—used to make tofu (which I wouldn’t eat, as soy is loaded with
 phytoestrogens)—can be either magnesium chloride or calcium chloride.



 You can get 5 pounds of Japanese (not Chinese) nigari for @$19.98 here:


 http://www.myworldhut.com/products/Nigari-Flakes-Food-Grade-Tofu-Solidifier-From-Japan-Bulk.html



 You can get 5 pounds of Japanese (not Chinese) nigari for $18.95 here:

 http://www.herbalhut.com/detail.aspx?ID=21178



 But the best buy I have seen for Japanese (not Chinese) nigari is 5 pounds
 for $8.49 here:

 http://www.naturalimport.com/shop_for_nigari?b=1



 I forget what the ratio is, but basically, I add water to my magnesium 
 chloride (nigari) flakes until the stuff dissolves. The texture is oily, 
 which is why some vendors call it magnesium “oil,” but that’s really a 
 misnomer.



 It is a great way to get magnesium into the body, because you avoid the 
 digestive tract and thus you can get higher levels of magnesium into the 
 system without having diarrhea.



 Also, if you have arthritis, avoid eating foods in the nightshade family: 
 tomato, eggplant, bell pepper, hot peppers, all types of white potato. They 
 produce substances that get into the joints and cause great pain.



 Sweating is one of the best ways to eliminate toxins. Access to any type of 
 sauna or even a steam room or hot bath could help. Epsom salts, another 
 magnesium compound, can be dissolved into a hot bath if you don’t have 
 magnesium chloride, though you don’t get as much magnesium into the body 
 using Epsom salts as when you use magnesium chloride.



 Best,

 Nenah



 Nenah Sylver, PhD

 electromedicine specialist and author

 The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009)

  The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

 www.nenahsylver.com




-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: Re: CSarthritic pain

[kathy . sheehy]

My family has used this with success for restless legs. I have heard any soap except Dove and Dial is OK .
Kathy


Jun 14, 2010 11:34:35 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:







Any bar soap?




samala,
Renee
www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt
Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body. The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily. Get the wand here

---Original Message---

If you have night time leg cramps you could try putting a bar of soap or two into your bed. Wrapped is OK. 









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Re: Re: CSarthritic pain

[Pat Lawrie]

Glad you said this, cuz Dove is the one I use for bathing and intended to use 
in the bed.
Anxious to try this and see if it works for me as well.
Pat





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Subject: Re: Re: CSarthritic pain



My family has used this with success for restless legs.  I have heard any soap 
except Dove and Dial is OK .
Kathy





Jun 14, 2010 11:34:35 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

Any bar soap? 


samala,
Renee
www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt 
Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 

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Re: CSarthritic pain Any bar of soap ??

[Saralou]

Not sure if Marshall was being facetious or not but I did remember him 
writing it. Thank you Mike for searchable archives!!! Saralou


Marshall Dudley
Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:46:13 -0700

Possible theory. Leg cramps are caused by xenoestrogens. These are 
estrogen mimicking compounds found in things like plastics and 
pesticides. Soap contains a molecule which is oil seeking on one end, 
and water seeking on the other end. Xenoestrogens which come in contact 
with a soap molecule attach to the molecule, and then become soluble in 
the blood, which transports it to the liver or kidneys which then expel 
it. Or attaching to the soap molecule simply disables its mimicking 
effects.


Marshall

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   /*Date:*/ 07/19/08 20:14:12
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   /*Subject:*/ CSRestless Leg Syndrome
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   “My husband was having severe leg cramps at night. Without telling
   him, I placed a soap bar under his sheets for two nights before he
   noticed. It worked! He’s had no more cramps. We still can't believe
   it! “ “I have had severe leg cramps for years. When I read about
   putting a bar of soap in bed, I got a bar of Ivory and put it under
   the bottom sheet near my legs. It’s been a month since I did that,
   and I have not had one leg cramp.
   http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/archives/home_remedies/index.php?page=all


   Cindy




  



On 6/14/2010 12:05 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 6/14/2010 11:33:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
gaiac...@gmail.com writes:


Any bar soap?

*Hi Renee, I've read different views on which bar of soap to use...I 
grabbed a bar of Caress  my son is using Irish Spring--- My friend 
who carries a bar of soap with her says she carries Ivory.. I guess it 
just depends what you want to try. Don't know if one kind works for 
some folks  another for another... It just took me a long time to 
figure out that the one who told me wasn't just pulling my leg 
---cramp  --- :-) Lois*



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Re: CSarthritic pain

[needling around]

I just read an article where Pete Egoscue(?) had a knee pain sufferer walk 
around with her hands behind her head for awhile and the knee pain went 
away.  Those with knee pain might want to look into one of his books.

PT

- Original Message - 
From: Saralou slped...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


I agree, Bodhi;  I've used lots of stuff that worked for a while: CMO and 
electrotherapy being the easiest.  Last go-round with the knees I started 
spraying MgCl (Magnesium Oil made from Nigari) on my knees every time I sat 
down with my pants down g.  It's lasted the longest.  Doesn't do a thing 
for the lower back and I tend to spray the back of my hand and rub it on my 
lower back while I'm sitting there too. Saralou


On 6/9/2010 10:41 AM, bodhisattva wrote:
80-90% of all people are Magnesium Deficient.  I recommend 
Magnesium-Citrate supplements for everyone, and it seems to clear up 
joint pain pretty quickly.. My wife gets flareups everytime she stops 
taking magnesium citrate. It used to be in our foods more, and is not.. 
It used to be more concentrated in salt, it is not, himalayan does have 
trace amounts, but not enough.


People used to eat more magnesium rich foods than they do today.  I 
recommend magnesium for everyone these days.


Kathy Tankersley wrote:
My clucosamine/chondroitin/msm is not working for joint pain anymore. 
Someone on this list said they use something else, does anyone remember 
what it is?  If not, I could really use some suggestions as to what to 
use.  Thanks..Kathy





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Re: Re: CSarthritic pain

[needling around]

Hi,
I was told to use soap and some bars are detergents.
PT
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  From: kathy.she...@verizon.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: CSarthritic pain



  My family has used this with success for restless legs.  I have heard any 
soap except Dove and Dial is OK .
  Kathy





  Jun 14, 2010 11:34:35 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

  Any bar soap? 

  samala,
  Renee
  www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt 
  Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
  you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 

  ---Original Message---

  If you have night time leg cramps you could try putting a bar of soap 
or two into your bed.  Wrapped is OK.   

 

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Re: CSarthritic pain Any bar of soap ??

[needling around]

Yes, a bar of 'soap' not a bar of detergent.

I don't put it under the sheets.  I like to feel it up against my body.  I have 
often taken the bars of soap from a hotel because they are thin and I can lie 
on them if my back is in spasm.  The thing to remember is they are for 'spasm' 
not 'pain'.  I will also take and put them on my feet if my toes are curling.  
Helps a lot.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain Any bar of soap ??


  In a message dated 6/14/2010 11:33:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
gaiac...@gmail.com writes:
Any bar soap? 
  Hi Renee, I've read different views on which bar of soap to use...I grabbed a 
bar of Caress   my son is using Irish Spring--- My friend who carries a bar of 
soap with her says she carries Ivory..   I guess it just depends what you want 
to try. Don't know if one kind works for some folks  another for another... It 
just took me a long time to figure out that the one who told me wasn't just 
pulling my leg ---cramp--- :-)  Lois

Re: CSarthritic pain ( Leg cramps soap under the sheets) :-)

[needling around]

I like it in the bed, not under the sheets.  I also carry one in my purse.  I 
think it is an energetic thing.

Someone just told me about 'Peri-gum' for the teeth thing.  
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:04 AM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain ( Leg cramps  soap under the sheets) :-)


  In a message dated 6/14/2010 10:56:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
tanke...@iland.net writes:
I, too use the bar of soap between my sheet and mattress pad.  Also, if the 
soap slipped out and I get a cramp, I rub the soap over it.  It really 
helpsKathy
  Hi Kathy, It is interesting just how many people it helps. When I e-mailed my 
friends about how it helped me I get several replies about them using it also.. 
I keep a bottle of CS by the bed too incase I forget to swish at bed 
time..I'm sure that is why  the plaque stays away from my teeth...Lois

Re: CSarthritic pain

[Saralou]

Yup,  Renee posted it to this list on 06/11/10 at 44.35 pm.  A rebounder 
is excellent to stimulate healing once things move  the right 
direction.and to prevent breakdown.


On 6/14/2010 5:51 PM, needling around wrote:
I just read an article where Pete Egoscue(?) had a knee pain sufferer 
walk around with her hands behind her head for awhile and the knee 
pain went away.  Those with knee pain might want to look into one of 
his books.

PT

I agree, Bodhi;  I've used lots of stuff that worked for a while: CMO 
and electrotherapy being the easiest.  Last go-round with the knees I 
started spraying MgCl (Magnesium Oil made from Nigari) on my knees 
every time I sat down with my pants down g.  It's lasted the 
longest.  Doesn't do a thing for the lower back and I tend to spray 
the back of my hand and rub it on my lower back while I'm sitting 
there too. Saralou


On 6/9/2010 10:41 AM, bodhisattva wrote:
80-90% of all people are Magnesium Deficient.  I recommend 
Magnesium-Citrate supplements for everyone, and it seems to clear up 
joint pain pretty quickly.. My wife gets flareups everytime she 
stops taking magnesium citrate. It used to be in our foods more, and 
is not.. It used to be more concentrated in salt, it is not, 
himalayan does have trace amounts, but not enough.


People used to eat more magnesium rich foods than they do today.  I 
recommend magnesium for everyone these days.


Kathy Tankersley wrote:
My clucosamine/chondroitin/msm is not working for joint pain 
anymore. Someone on this list said they use something else, does 
anyone remember what it is?  If not, I could really use some 
suggestions as to what to use.  Thanks..Kathy





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CSPRILL BEAD QUESTIONS

[Cathy39etc]

I received my Prill Beads and Bodhi says they are  optimal, so today was 
the first time I drank the water.  Gave my husband a  glass also which was 
cold from the frig.  He is not very supportive so I  figured it there was a 
difference to be seen it would be seen in him.  So  far nothing unusual in 
either of us.  Don't feel different.  The water  is very pleasant tasting as in 
there is nothing objectionable in the flavor but  I don't feel any different 
and hubby hasn't said anything.
Nothing was actually measured so maybe that needs to be better  controlled. 
 If the jar is larger than a gallon should I use more beads or  just let it 
sit longer?  I measured out what I thought was a gallon and  just guessed 
on the beads so they are not exact either.  Bought them from  the Blind Guru 
and there was no instructions so just went to the web site for  that info.  
Offered it to my dogs and they seem to like  it.   But they are still 
acting the same.  Kinda hard to see if  it would make a difference to them.   
Has anyone used CS for the water for the Beads?
What  kind of a difference would that make?
 
Cathy

Re: CSarthritic pain

[Cathy39etc]

I have osteo arthritis in my hands and sorta fell into using  Magnetic 
Therapy by accident.  I didn't believe in it at all in the  beginning but found 
out it does work.  In some people it works  instantaneously and others like 
myself take longer.  In my case,  it probably took a couple of weeks of 
wearing magnets contentiously but at  that point I was on meds and it wasn't 
helping me.  Now I  don't use Meds unless I over work my hands doing something 
strenuously and  need immediate relief.   Magnets are cheap and easy to get 
and they don't  wear out .  We used to make and sell magnetic jewelry but 
had to go  to craft shows and just don't have the time anymore.  I believe 
about  85% of the people who use Magnetic Therapy see the  difference.   
 
Cathy
 
 
In a message dated 6/14/2010 3:40:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
slped...@gmail.com writes:

I agree,  Bodhi;  I've used lots of stuff that worked for a while: CMO 
and  electrotherapy being the easiest.  Last go-round with the knees I  
started spraying MgCl (Magnesium Oil made from Nigari) on my knees every  
time I sat down with my pants down g.  It's lasted the  longest.  
Doesn't do a thing for the lower back and I tend to spray  the back of my 
hand and rub it on my lower back while I'm sitting there  too. Saralou

On 6/9/2010 10:41 AM, bodhisattva wrote:
 80-90% of  all people are Magnesium Deficient.  I recommend 
  Magnesium-Citrate supplements for everyone, and it seems to clear up 
  joint pain pretty quickly.. My wife gets flareups everytime she stops 
  taking magnesium citrate. It used to be in our foods more, and is 
  not.. It used to be more concentrated in salt, it is not, himalayan 
  does have trace amounts, but not enough.

 People used to eat  more magnesium rich foods than they do today.  I 
 recommend  magnesium for everyone these days.

 Kathy Tankersley  wrote:
 My clucosamine/chondroitin/msm is not working for joint  pain 
 anymore.  Someone on this list said they use something  else, does 
 anyone remember what it is?  If not, I could  really use some 
 suggestions as to what to use. Thanks..Kathy



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Re: CSPRILL BEAD QUESTIONS

[bodhisattva]

I keep a full bag in a half gallon here, and several half gallons in the 
fridge.  The more water, the more beads, the more beads the higher the 
energy and faster it will structure the water Also, you need to 
let the beads Cure in the water for quite a number of hours before 
consumption if you want the best benefit. I just made a batch a couple 
hours ago, it's around 35,000 Bovis, but usually we're 90,000-95,000 
BOVIS by the time I consume it, usually after an overnight condition.


I assume reaction is individual, but also keep in mind, I keep Orgonite 
in my fridge, and the water that goes into the prill bead jars is 
heavily purified, then Charged in my Reverse Osmosis Tank which has a 
ring of orgonite around it. What kind of water are you using to start it 
out? The Bovis on your prill water right now is around 32,000. Good 
water, not earth shattering.  Tap water is like 3,000 Bovis.


Most people seem to have a fairly pronounced reaction to the prill from 
my home. Some have violent expulsions of 'cargo' they've been carrying 
for many years.  It has an effect like holy water on people from what I 
am seeing. In addition to the actual physical effects of opened 
meridians, detoxification, etc.


cathy39...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I received my Prill Beads and Bodhi says they are optimal, so today 
was the first time I drank the water.  Gave my husband a glass also 
which was cold from the frig.  He is not very supportive so I figured 
it there was a difference to be seen it would be seen in him.  So far 
nothing unusual in either of us.  Don't feel different.  The water is 
very pleasant tasting as in there is nothing objectionable in the 
flavor but I don't feel any different and hubby hasn't said anything.
Nothing was actually measured so maybe that needs to be better 
controlled.  If the jar is larger than a gallon should I use more 
beads or just let it sit longer?  I measured out what I thought was a 
gallon and just guessed on the beads so they are not exact either.  
Bought them from the Blind Guru and there was no instructions so just 
went to the web site for that info.  
Offered it to my dogs and they seem to like it.   But they are still 
acting the same.  Kinda hard to see if it would make a difference to 
them.  
Has anyone used CS for the water for the Beads?

What  kind of a difference would that make?
 
Cathy

RE: CSlazer

[Norton, Steve]

I stated below that one should get a laser with a wavelength of 660 nm or 
higher. I should have said 650 nm. There are studies showing significant pain 
relief with a 650 nm laser. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19563196)  This 
is good since most red lasers are at 650 nm. And some higher power ones are 
available at that frequency. (e.g. 
http://www.dinodirect.com/ultrafire-red-laser-pointer-100mw-650nm.html)  I have 
seen 650 nm, 5 mw, lasers for pain advertised for $399.00 plus shipping. 

- Steve N

From: Norton, Steve 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:21 AM
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
Subject: Re: CSlazer

Kathy,

You should get a red laser with at least 10 mw power. The darker the red color 
the better. If it lists the wavelength of the laser you want it to be 660 nm or 
higher. Higher is better and should give the redder color. Check out laser 
prices at www.dealextreme.com 

or 
http://www.dinodirect.com/flashlights-lightings-red-lasers-3051Gallery/fct-20mw%2BDino%2B50mw%2DRed%2DLasers/
 


I have purchased from deal extreme but not dino direct. Quality can be poor at 
deal extreme so read the user comments for a product before choosing. 
Best of luck,
Steve N


From: Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thu Jun 10 19:14:13 2010
Subject: Re: CSlazer 
Pain
- Original Message - 
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 5:25 PM
Subject: RE: CSlazer

What is your intended use for the laser?
-  Steve N

From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:tanke...@iland.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSlazer

Hi, you wonderful knowledgable peopleI am wanting to buy a lazer, but I 
have no idea what to look for, size, strength, etc.  Could someone please aim 
me in the right direction, I see some on Ebay, but as I say, I have no idea 
what to look for...thanks..Kathy

Re: CSarthritic pain

[Kathy Tankersley]

Yes, any soap will work
  - Original Message - 
  From: Renee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSarthritic pain


Any bar soap? 

samala,
Renee
www.eamega.com/RPainManageEnt 
Chronic pain does NOT belong in your body.  The Am Wand helps 
you get rid of it quickly and easily.  Get the wand here 

---Original Message---

If you have night time leg cramps you could try putting a bar of soap 
or two into your bed.  Wrapped is OK.   
  
   

RE: CSPRILL BEAD QUESTIONS

[Dianne France]

I haven't ordered my beads yet but plan to do that soon.  Does it hurt to leave 
the beads in the water for a period of time that you aren't consuming?  Also, 
can you use this water to mix with other ingredients to make flavored drinks or 
does it need to stay pure?  If you don't have RO water what type of water 
should you use?  Does distilled water work?


 


Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:36:17 -0400
From: bodhisat...@mutemail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPRILL BEAD QUESTIONS

I keep a full bag in a half gallon here, and several half gallons in the 
fridge.  The more water, the more beads, the more beads the higher the energy 
and faster it will structure the water Also, you need to let the beads 
Cure in the water for quite a number of hours before consumption if you want 
the best benefit. I just made a batch a couple hours ago, it's around 35,000 
Bovis, but usually we're 90,000-95,000 BOVIS by the time I consume it, usually 
after an overnight condition.

I assume reaction is individual, but also keep in mind, I keep Orgonite in my 
fridge, and the water that goes into the prill bead jars is heavily purified, 
then Charged in my Reverse Osmosis Tank which has a ring of orgonite around 
it. What kind of water are you using to start it out? The Bovis on your prill 
water right now is around 32,000. Good water, not earth shattering.  Tap water 
is like 3,000 Bovis.

Most people seem to have a fairly pronounced reaction to the prill from my 
home. Some have violent expulsions of 'cargo' they've been carrying for many 
years.  It has an effect like holy water on people from what I am seeing. In 
addition to the actual physical effects of opened meridians, detoxification, 
etc.

cathy39...@aol.com wrote: 

 
 I received my Prill Beads and Bodhi says they are optimal, so today was the 
first time I drank the water.  Gave my husband a glass also which was cold from 
the frig.  He is not very supportive so I figured it there was a difference to 
be seen it would be seen in him.  So far nothing unusual in either of us.  
Don't feel different.  The water is very pleasant tasting as in there is 
nothing objectionable in the flavor but I don't feel any different and hubby 
hasn't said anything.
Nothing was actually measured so maybe that needs to be better controlled.  If 
the jar is larger than a gallon should I use more beads or just let it sit 
longer?  I measured out what I thought was a gallon and just guessed on the 
beads so they are not exact either.  Bought them from the Blind Guru and there 
was no instructions so just went to the web site for that info.  
Offered it to my dogs and they seem to like it.   But they are still acting the 
same.  Kinda hard to see if it would make a difference to them.   
Has anyone used CS for the water for the Beads?
What  kind of a difference would that make?
 
Cathy
  
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Re: CSPRILL BEAD QUESTIONS

[Cathy39etc]

I started the beads last evening and didn't use the water  until this 
afternoon.  It was just plain ol tap water the first time and  then used the 
filtered water from the refrigerator which I haven't tried  yet.  Guess I 
haven't been paying attention but what is Bovis? and how can  I do that myself? 
 I 
drank only one full glass and have been experiencing  an on and off again 
slight head ache.  Maybe I am detoxing and don't know  it?  Are you leaving 
the beads in the water while they are in the  frig?
Did you find out when you shipped the small  Orgonite?  Can't wait for all 
my Orgonite to get here.
 
 
In a message dated 6/14/2010 5:37:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bodhisat...@mutemail.com writes:

I keep a  full bag in a half gallon here, and several half gallons in the 
fridge.   The more water, the more beads, the more beads the higher the 
energy and  faster it will structure the water Also, you need to let the 
beads  Cure in the water for quite a number of hours before consumption if 
you want  the best benefit. I just made a batch a couple hours ago, it's 
around 35,000  Bovis, but usually we're 90,000-95,000 BOVIS by the time I 
consume it, usually  after an overnight condition.

I assume reaction is individual, but also  keep in mind, I keep Orgonite in 
my fridge, and the water that goes into the  prill bead jars is heavily 
purified, then Charged in my Reverse Osmosis Tank  which has a ring of 
orgonite around it. What kind of water are you using to  start it out? The 
Bovis 
on your prill water right now is around 32,000. Good  water, not earth 
shattering.  Tap water is like 3,000 Bovis.

Most  people seem to have a fairly pronounced reaction to the prill from my 
home.  Some have violent expulsions of 'cargo' they've been carrying for 
many  years.  It has an effect like holy water on people from what I am 
seeing.  In addition to the actual physical effects of opened meridians,  
detoxification, etc.

_cathy39...@aol.com_ (mailto:cathy39...@aol.com)  wrote:  

I received my Prill Beads and Bodhi says they are  optimal, so today was 
the first time I drank the water.  Gave my  husband a glass also which was 
cold from the frig.  He is not very  supportive so I figured it there was a 
difference to be seen it would be  seen in him.  So far nothing unusual in 
either of us.  Don't feel  different.  The water is very pleasant tasting as in 
there is nothing  objectionable in the flavor but I don't feel any different 
and hubby hasn't  said anything.
Nothing was actually measured so maybe that needs to be  better controlled. 
 If the jar is larger than a gallon should I use  more beads or just let it 
sit longer?  I measured out what I thought  was a gallon and just guessed 
on the beads so they are not exact  either.  Bought them from the Blind Guru 
and there was no instructions  so just went to the web site for that info.  
Offered it to my dogs and they seem to like  it.   But they are still 
acting the same.  Kinda hard to see  if it would make a difference to them.
Has anyone used CS for the water for the  Beads?
What  kind of a difference would that  make?
 
Cathy

Re: CSarthritic pain

[Dan Nave]

From the People's Pharmacy site that someone referred to recently
there is an entry indicating that Certo which is liquid pectin and
grape juice work well for arthritis pain for some people.  There's not
much information, but it seems that the important thing is the liquid
pectin, and the grape juice is just to help get it down.  At least,
that's the way I read it.

http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2008/07/02/certo-and-grape-1/

Dan

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote:
 My clucosamine/chondroitin/msm is not working for joint pain anymore.
 Someone on this list said they use something else, does anyone remember what
 it is?  If not, I could really use some suggestions as to what to use.
 Thanks..Kathy


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Re: CSarthritic pain

[Dan Nave]

I came across the actual description further along in the site:

http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2005/10/18/purple-pectin-for-pain/

This home remedy for arthritis pain has generated almost as much mail
as the gin and raisins. One newspaper column reader related that her
grandmother had been using it as long ago as 1945.

Purchase Certo in the canning section of your local grocery. It is a
thickening agent used to make jams and jellies. Certo contains pectin,
a natural ingredient found in the cell walls of plants.

There are two recipes: Take 2 teaspoons of Certo in 3 ounces of grape
juice three times a day. As the pain disappears, this can be reduced
to 1 teaspoon in juice twice a day.

An alternate approach is to use 1 tablespoon of Certo in 8 ounces of
grape juice once daily.


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 From the People's Pharmacy site that someone referred to recently
 there is an entry indicating that Certo which is liquid pectin and
 grape juice work well for arthritis pain for some people.  There's not
 much information, but it seems that the important thing is the liquid
 pectin, and the grape juice is just to help get it down.  At least,
 that's the way I read it.

 http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2008/07/02/certo-and-grape-1/

 Dan

 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.net wrote:
 My clucosamine/chondroitin/msm is not working for joint pain anymore.
 Someone on this list said they use something else, does anyone remember what
 it is?  If not, I could really use some suggestions as to what to use.
 Thanks..Kathy



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Re: CSAuto-Immune Hepatitis

[Peter Converse]

Hi Jonathan,

You might want to check into the work of Dr. Berkson who has helped people 
in similar shape with high doses of milk thistle, ALA and a third ingredient 
which escapes me right now...maybe selenium. He helped liver transplant 
candidates become free of their condition and their need for transplants.


Peter

- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp

To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: CSAuto-Immune Hepatitis


List,

From a friend:

My apologies for the mass mailing; I’m writing in the hope that you
might be able give me some information. My mother-in-law is ill with a
terminal liver disease (a rare form of hepatitis known as auto-immune
hepatitis.) We have been to the top hospital here in Fukuoka, and she
has been told that she would have an excellent prognosis only if she
can get a liver transplant. As there is absolutely no system of organ
donations in Japan, my wife was willing to be a live organ donor to her
mother. However, after my wife underwent testing, she was informed
that she was ineligible to be a live donor; her own liver, while
perfectly fine, was adjudged to be less than satisfactory for a
transplant.

I wonder whether anyone has first-rate information on alternatives to
transplant.

Thanks in advance.



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Re: CSAuto-Immune Hepatitis

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Thanks to you and all you have replied and are replying.  I'll check on 
each idea and forward them to my friend.   I'll just reply once with 
thanks to everyone.   Much obliged.





On Tuesday, Jun 15, 2010, at 10:00 Asia/Tokyo, Peter Converse wrote:


Hi Jonathan,

You might want to check into the work of Dr. Berkson who has helped 
people in similar shape with high doses of milk thistle, ALA and a 
third ingredient which escapes me right now...maybe selenium. He 
helped liver transplant candidates become free of their condition and 
their need for transplants.


Peter

- Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten 
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp

To: Silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 8:11 PM
Subject: CSAuto-Immune Hepatitis


List,

From a friend:

My apologies for the mass mailing; I’m writing in the hope that you
might be able give me some information. My mother-in-law is ill with a
terminal liver disease (a rare form of hepatitis known as auto-immune
hepatitis.) We have been to the top hospital here in Fukuoka, and she
has been told that she would have an excellent prognosis only if she
can get a liver transplant. As there is absolutely no system of organ
donations in Japan, my wife was willing to be a live organ donor to her
mother. However, after my wife underwent testing, she was informed
that she was ineligible to be a live donor; her own liver, while
perfectly fine, was adjudged to be less than satisfactory for a
transplant.

I wonder whether anyone has first-rate information on alternatives to
transplant.

Thanks in advance.



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