[sniffer] Re: Experimental Abstract

2006-10-10 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Frederick,

Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 8:14:15 AM, you wrote:

 Where can I find a list of the latest result codes.

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer.TechnicalDetails.ResultCodes

_M

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[sniffer] Re: Help for AutoSNF

2006-10-10 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Filippo,

The best time to download your rulebase file is when you receive an
update notification message.

If you want to use a scheduler then you should be sure your script
only downloads newer files and then schedule it to run about once per
hour.

To avoid congestion, you should pick the minute of the hour using this
chart:

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer.TechnicalDetails.LogFiles.Submit#When_should_I_submit_my_logs.3F

Hope this helps,

Thanks,

_M

Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 11:23:13 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Pete,

 in witch time on day you suggest to schedule the autosnf.cmd task?

 Please let mw know.
 Thanks
 Filippo



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[sniffer] Re: MDaemon plug-in - Process inline during SMTP?

2006-10-03 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Dave,

Will do :-)

When the alpha is ready I'll announce it here.

Thanks!

_M

Wednesday, October 4, 2006, 11:13:08 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Pete.  If you need any testers for this plugin, give me a shout.
  

 -Original Message-
 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:07 PM
 To: Message Sniffer Community
 Subject: [sniffer] Re: MDaemon plug-in - Process inline during SMTP?

 Hello Dave,

 The current version can't do this -- it doesn't know how to respond properly
 to the inline call. It only knows how to add headers to the message file.

 The version under development (due out shortly) will have more options for
 calls during the SMTP conversation.

 Thanks,

 _M

 Monday, October 2, 2006, 6:57:00 PM, you wrote:

   
  
 Does anybody know if  it's possible to have the MessageSniffer plug-in 
 run inline in MDaemon's SMTP  session rather then during queue processing?
  
  
  
 It appears this is  causing MessageSniffer to not be scored by 
 SpamAssassin -- If SA runs during the  SMTP session before 
 MessageSniffer does it's thing, the MessageSniffer headers  cannot be 
 considered and the end result is that there is no effective  scoring.
  
  
  



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[sniffer] Re: Mdaemon plugin 'sleeping'

2006-09-30 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Grant,

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 8:20:21 AM, you wrote:

snip/

 We are having the same problem.  Sniffer is processing the messages but it
 appears as if SA is not picking it up.  I posted this in the MDaemon
 Discussion list yesterday and had one reply.  Upgraded to 9.07 and tried
 what the poster recommended and it is still not adding to the spam score.
 Anyone else (Pete?) have ideas.  We need to get this working.

snip/

 Link to MDaemon discussion:
 http://lists.altn.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.eebd191/1

From what you've posted, SNF definitely did it's part - the SNF
headers are in the message. After that it's entirely up to SA (or CF).

This leaves me to wonder what else SA might not be matching that it
should - - That is, once the message gets to SA it's just another
message and the SNF headers are just another bit of text in the
headers so there's no reason I can think of that SA would not match
that text unless SA were broken...

Since from SA's perspective the SNF headers are just like any other
text, then I wonder what other rules in SA are also not firing when
they should and how often? Perhaps identifying those cases might tell
us something about what's going on.

Also - why the sudden change? This has worked fine for some time. Can
anybody pinpoint when (at what event precisely) this problem showed
up?

Those are my thoughts.

_M


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[sniffer] Re: Error posting?

2006-09-30 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Dave,

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 10:01:41 AM, you wrote:

 Why am I getting the following error when replying to a message here?  It
 certainly is NOT automatic... and has never happened before today.

Very odd. Your messages came through - including this one.

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[sniffer] Re: Mdaemon plugin 'sleeping'

2006-09-30 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sven,

Saturday, September 30, 2006, 10:30:27 AM, you wrote:

 Grant, Pete,

 I *think* that the problem has been solved within our installation.
 I haven't changed anything, but SPAM messages are not coming through
 anymore (execept some Russian spam that SNF is not catching, but
 that's logical -- can I forward these messages to someone é armresearch for 
 analysis?) .

snip/

Missed spam (false negatives) can be forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and it will be put in the queue for the rule-techs. This method is
deprecated but the mechanisms are still in place.

The preferred method is for you to have a pop3 mailbox on your system
setup as a usertrap where our bots can come and pick up false
negatives. A usertrap contains messages that you or your customers
(through your review if possible) would like to submit as spam.
Messages can be forwarded there - or if you have the technical means
you might redirect the messages to this box so that they are in their
original (as received) state.

Similarly, if you have any clean spamtraps (addresses which receive
spam but were never used and will never be used) then their content
could be redirected to a spamtrap mailbox on your system where our
bots can retrieve it.

We treat each type of source with different rules. Usertraps contain
messages that may have gone through human hands. Spamtrap contain
messages that have never been seen and should not exist (were sent to
invalid and/or harvested addresses).

If you provide us with the email address (login), fqdn of the pop3
server, and password we can tell our bots to go and collect messages
from there and add them to our processing queues. (We poll as
frequently as once per minute when traffic is slow).

Hope this helps,

_M


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[sniffer] Re: How Many get through

2006-08-25 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Gary,

I've checked your license id (based on your domain) and it is not
expired - updates seem to be working normally.

Is your update script working correctly?

_M


Friday, August 25, 2006, 11:48:46 AM, you wrote:

   
  
 I have a question I've been wanting to ask for  awhile:
  
  
  
 How many spams do most people get leaked into their mailbox?  ie they pass 
 message sniffer?
  
  
  
 When I first started over a year ago, very few spam made it  into my mailbox.
  
  
  
 But the past 6 months I get 60-80 spam emails / day into my 
 personal box. Of course I'll see the same messages in my other mail
 boxes also,  so it relates to a lot of deleting?
  
  
  
 Could I have something set up incorrectly? Or thresholds set  to
 low that they are getting through?
  
  
  
 Thanks for any info!
  
  
  
 Sincerely,
  
 Gary Stark

   


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[sniffer] Re: FW: Summary, Form #21539

2006-08-23 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andy,

Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 8:57:48 AM, you wrote:

 Pete,

 I have the same concern. I have been submitting the below spam (possible
 Words virus) almost daily for more than week - yet, it still is not
 discovered.

 Am I submitting correctly?

This particular spam campaign is a bit of a challenge. We will
continue to work on it.

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[sniffer] Re: Paypal failing SNIFFER-GENERAL

2006-08-23 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

I may be behind... but I don't see an FP report on this. Do you have
the rule id?

_M

Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 1:36:08 PM, you wrote:

   
  
 FYI... I just reported one of these, so watch  out.
  

 Darin.
  
  
  
  

   


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[sniffer] Re: Paypal failing SNIFFER-GENERAL

2006-08-23 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

I have processed an FP with that rule (1100444) - the rule was for an
obscure ebay link and has been removed.

Best,

_M

Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 3:23:55 PM, you wrote:

 Hi Pete,

 I'm not sure which column is which, but here are the log lines for the
 message (minus the authorization code)

  20060823163449 D83a20d3001502962.SMD 0 32 Match 1100444 60 1502
 1551 98
  20060823163449 D83a20d3001502962.SMD 0 32 Final 1100444 60 0 3798
 98

 The FP was submitted at 1:34pm ET.

 Darin.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:22 PM
 Subject: [sniffer] Re: Paypal failing SNIFFER-GENERAL


 Hello Darin,

 I may be behind... but I don't see an FP report on this. Do you have
 the rule id?

 _M

 Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 1:36:08 PM, you wrote:



 FYI... I just reported one of these, so watch  out.


 Darin.











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[sniffer] Re: Another example of an empty email but looking at the source.

2006-08-23 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello David,

Sometimes we have rules for empty email --- but there are many
different kinds of empty ;-) Often enough, some empty messages are
legitimate.

_M

Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 6:39:23 PM, you wrote:

 
   
   
 Received: from PC05.4ueleoz.org [202.215.167.25] by romtech.com.au with ESMTP
   
   (SMTPD-8.22) id A7AC0224; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:33:16 +1000
   
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 X-mxGuard-Info: Processed by romtech.com.au using mxGuard v2.4
   
 X-mxGuard-SpoolID: d7ab017912af
   
 X-mxGuard-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 X-mxGuard-Virus-Info: No viruses detected
   
 X-mxGuard-Spam-Score: 0
   
 X-mxGuard-Spam-Probability: CLEAN
   
 X-Note: This message has been scanned for spam and viruses by
 mxGuard for IMail (www.mxguard.com)
   
 Subject: 
   
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:33:20 +1000
   
 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Status: U
   
 X-UIDL: 454950044
   
 X-IMail-ThreadID: d7ab017912af
   
  
   
  
   
 Body contents below
   
  
   
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
   
 HTMLHEAD
   
 META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1/HEAD
   
 BODY/BODY/HTML
   
  
   
 End of email
   
  
   
  
   
 Is there a rule to filter out empty emails ?
   
  
   
 Regards David Moore
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  J.P. MCP, MCSE, MCSE + INTERNET, CNE.
  
  www.adsldirect.com.au for ADSL and Internet www.romtech.com.au for PC sales
  
  Office Phone: (+612) 9453 1990
  Fax Phone: (+612) 9453 1880
  Mobile Phone: +614 18 282 648
  
  POSTAL ADDRESS:
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  DELIVERY ADDRESS:
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[sniffer] Re: Am I submitting to s...@sortmonster.com properly

2006-08-22 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello David,

I think this format should come through fine. Phishing is a constant
challenge because it is so variable and so close to a legitimate
message (on purpose).

I will code some rules for the message you submitted and I'm sure
Jason (Lead Rule Tech) will see this note and help us watch for these
more closely.

Thanks!

_M

Tuesday, August 22, 2006, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote:

 
   
   
 I just want to know if I am submitting spam emails to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] properly being in Australia we see a lot of
 spam targeting ANZ, National and Commonwealth bank and they seem to
 be evading the Sniffer program so when I send a spam to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I am using Outlook 2003) I copy and paste the
 header and forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is this working
 properly. Please see example below.
   
  
   
 Regards David Moore
   
  
   
  
   
 Received: from dialup-82-207-6-125.lv.ukrtel.net [82.207.6.125] by 
 romtech.com.au
   
   (SMTPD-8.22) id A82E053C; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:35:42 +1000
   
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 From: Commonweal Bank of Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Subject: Commonweal Bank of Australia new security features.
   
 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:45:09 +0400
   
 MIME-Version: 1.0
   
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   
     boundary==_NextPart_000_001D_01C6C5D8.0A0008A0
   
 X-Priority: 3
   
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
   
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
   
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527
   
 X-mxGuard-Info: Processed by romtech.com.au using mxGuard v2.4
   
 X-mxGuard-SpoolID: 082d00a1ecb1
   
 X-mxGuard-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 X-mxGuard-Virus-Info: No viruses detected
   
 X-mxGuard-Spam-Score: 0
   
 X-mxGuard-Spam-Probability: CLEAN
   
 X-Note: This message has been scanned for spam and viruses by
 mxGuard for IMail (www.mxguard.com)
   
 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Status: U
   
 X-UIDL: 454949852
   
 X-IMail-ThreadID: 082d00a1ecb1
   
  
   
   

   
   
 From: Commonweal Bank of Australia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2006 4:45 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Commonweal Bank of Australia new security features.
   
  
   
 It has come to our attention that your account needs to be
 confirmed due to the recent changes we have made to our NetBank online system.
  We contacted you for the following reason: Confirm your
 Information in order to activate new NetBank security features for
 your account. Be sure to log in securely by following the link
 below. It's important that you confirm your NetBank account
 information otherwise you will not be able to access our online
 services. We encourage you to login in to your Commonwealth Bank
 account as soon as possible to help avoid this. 
  
  Click here
  
  We appreciate your understanding as we work to ensure account safety.
  
  Sincerely,
  Commonweal Bank of Australia management stuff.
  
  Email ID: GFR97DF
   
  
   
  
   
   
 


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[sniffer] Re: Am I submitting to s...@sortmonster.com properly

2006-08-22 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Jim,

I've started working on some of these also. SNF usually does look
inside file attachments so it's possible we can get to some of the raw
content -- in fact, most of it is already coded - but being inside all
of the binary cruft in a word document is keeping it out of the
scanning window. We are catching some of them, and others not so much.
We will keep working on it though.

_M

Tuesday, August 22, 2006, 5:46:03 PM, you wrote:

 Pete,
 Is there any way to deal with the other new attachment based spasm we have
 been seeing recently?  I see a lot coming in that only say here is your
 invoice and have an invoice.doc (or similar attachment).  Inside the word
 file is the spam itself.  I've seen a bunch of these in the last week or so,
 I initially thought they were viruses, but none of my virus scanners picked
 them up as such and their contents were just a bunch of spam.   

 Jim Matuska Jr.
 Computer Tech2, CCNA
 Nez Perce Tribe
 Information Systems
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  


 -Original Message-
 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:34 PM
 To: Message Sniffer Community
 Subject: [sniffer] Re: Am I submitting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] properly

 Hello David,

 I think this format should come through fine. Phishing is a constant
 challenge because it is so variable and so close to a legitimate
 message (on purpose).

 I will code some rules for the message you submitted and I'm sure
 Jason (Lead Rule Tech) will see this note and help us watch for these
 more closely.

 Thanks!

 _M

 Tuesday, August 22, 2006, 5:10:58 PM, you wrote:

 
   
   
 I just want to know if I am submitting spam emails to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] properly being in Australia we see a lot of
 spam targeting ANZ, National and Commonwealth bank and they seem to
 be evading the Sniffer program so when I send a spam to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I am using Outlook 2003) I copy and paste the
 header and forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is this working
 properly. Please see example below.
   
  
   
 Regards David Moore
   
  
   
  
   
 Received: from dialup-82-207-6-125.lv.ukrtel.net [82.207.6.125] by
 romtech.com.au
   
   (SMTPD-8.22) id A82E053C; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:35:42 +1000
   
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 From: Commonweal Bank of Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Subject: Commonweal Bank of Australia new security features.
   
 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:45:09 +0400
   
 MIME-Version: 1.0
   
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   
     boundary==_NextPart_000_001D_01C6C5D8.0A0008A0
   
 X-Priority: 3
   
 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
   
 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527
   
 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527
   
 X-mxGuard-Info: Processed by romtech.com.au using mxGuard v2.4
   
 X-mxGuard-SpoolID: 082d00a1ecb1
   
 X-mxGuard-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 X-mxGuard-Virus-Info: No viruses detected
   
 X-mxGuard-Spam-Score: 0
   
 X-mxGuard-Spam-Probability: CLEAN
   
 X-Note: This message has been scanned for spam and viruses by
 mxGuard for IMail (www.mxguard.com)
   
 X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 Status: U
   
 X-UIDL: 454949852
   
 X-IMail-ThreadID: 082d00a1ecb1
   
  
   
   

   
   
 From: Commonweal Bank of Australia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, 22 August 2006 4:45 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Commonweal Bank of Australia new security features.
   
  
   
 It has come to our attention that your account needs to be
 confirmed due to the recent changes we have made to our NetBank online
 system.
  We contacted you for the following reason: Confirm your
 Information in order to activate new NetBank security features for
 your account. Be sure to log in securely by following the link
 below. It's important that you confirm your NetBank account
 information otherwise you will not be able to access our online
 services. We encourage you to login in to your Commonwealth Bank
 account as soon as possible to help avoid this. 
  
  Click here
  
  We appreciate your understanding as we work to ensure account safety.
  
  Sincerely,
  Commonweal Bank of Australia management stuff.
  
  Email ID: GFR97DF
   
  
   
  
   
   
 





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[sniffer] Re: Lots of drug spam getting through

2006-08-21 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

There have been a couple new very aggressive spikes today... most
likely these are part of that. I will dig-in with the rule-techs and
see what is what.

Thanks,

_M

Monday, August 21, 2006, 11:27:37 AM, you wrote:

 We're seeing similar - I keep submitting them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but
 the same type of spam keeps getting through... 


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[sniffer] Re: Lots of drug spam getting through

2006-08-21 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andrew,

That's not the one I had in mind, but if it's in there we'll code for
it.

_M

Monday, August 21, 2006, 12:02:42 PM, you wrote:

 Would that be the Laugh in the subject line pharmaceutical spam
 campaign?

 That was mentioned by Dave Doherty on the Declude.JunkMail mailing list,
 and when I checked my logs I found many hundreds with clear variations
 on the keywords in the text, e.g. there is a joke about lawyers and they
 are using a list of synonyms for lawyer (and many other words/phrases)
 so that each mailing is permuted.

 MesageSniffer was catching at least some of these yesterday but I don't
 know if the permutations are being caught.

 Andrew 8)


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 Hello Nick,
 
 There have been a couple new very aggressive spikes today... 
 most likely these are part of that. I will dig-in with the 
 rule-techs and see what is what.
 
 Thanks,
 
 _M
 
 Monday, August 21, 2006, 11:27:37 AM, you wrote:
 
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[sniffer] Re: Newbie Question about .fin and .srv

2006-08-12 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello David,

Anything 24 hours old is safe to delete.

_M

Saturday, August 12, 2006, 4:52:36 PM, you wrote:

 I am running mxGuard, invURIBL, Message sniffer and I have just installed
 the Message Sniffer as a service in persistent mode. I have a few files in
 the Sniffer directory that are about 24 hour old can they be deleted?
 (License code removed)

 -20060812095802xAAF83996-1008.SVR
 -20060812175037x5315DDED-688.FIN
 -20060812170345xC4A5F6BC-5852.FIN
 -20060812100537x6AB29C04-5872.FIN
 -20060812091354xAAF83996-6124.SVR

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[sniffer] Re: Sharon Daniels is out of the office.

2006-08-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello John,

I did remove the account.

_M

Monday, August 7, 2006, 2:10:54 PM, you wrote:

 Bleeping wonderful.

 We have to put up with this for a week?

 I guess a nice little Outlook rule is called for.

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[sniffer] Re: Fwd: Re: Prima esperienza di striptease e poi sesso anale trovi qui

2006-08-03 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Filippo,

Thursday, August 3, 2006, 5:08:19 AM, you wrote:

  
  Hello,
  please include in rules this SPAM.

Please do not send spam to the list.

If you have spam to submit and you do not have a spamtrap and/or
usertrap pop3 address setup on your system then forward the spam to
our [EMAIL PROTECTED] address.

If you have a chronic spam then please ALSO .zip a copy of the message
as an attachment and send it in a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Put
the words Chronic Spam in your subject line and tell us anything
special you notice about the message and your policies -- for example
if you are willing to have a black rule for a particular word or
phrase or perhaps some other attribute.

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[sniffer] Re: New SPAM pain

2006-07-26 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darrell,

That's fine.

_M

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 2:43:27 PM, you wrote:

 If Pete doesn't mind I will post my observations in regards to the product.
 I run both products (CommTouch and Sniffer). 

 Darrell
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 integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. 

  

 John Shacklett writes: 

 I'm dying to start a thread and talk about Sniffer's stance on CommTouch,
 but I can resist. 
 
 Instead, I would like to point out that eight clearly spam messages have
 made it through to my Inbox [or Outlook Junk Folder] so far this week that
 appear to have skinned clear through Sniffer. First ones I've seen in  Are 
 we undergoing a new phase or campaign that I can make adjustments for? 
 
 
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[sniffer] Re: New SPAM pain

2006-07-26 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello John,

If they look too much like regular email and they arrive at usertraps
then it's a good bet we might skip a few before recognizing they are
spam... Rules for usertrap submissions are more strict -- so if there
is any doubt we err on the side of safety.

If we get some in our spamtraps they will be coded more quickly.

If you see a chronic problem with any of them, please zip a few and
send them to me at support@ as attachments. Include Chronic Spam in
your subject line. I will look more closely to find a pattern and will
review it with the rule-techs.

Thanks!

_M

Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 4:35:52 PM, you wrote:

 Besides the one I sent to the list instead of to spam@, many of the ones
 getting through are simple, text-based things that REALLY look like regular
 emails. Probably one of the worst kinds to sniff out. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Message Sniffer Community [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Pete McNeil
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2006 2:52 PM
 To: Message Sniffer Community
 Subject: [sniffer] Re: New SPAM pain

 Hello John,

 Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 1:57:18 PM, you wrote:

 I'm dying to start a thread and talk about Sniffer's stance on 
 CommTouch, but I can resist.

 Me too.

 Instead, I would like to point out that eight clearly spam messages 
 have made it through to my Inbox [or Outlook Junk Folder] so far this 
 week that appear to have skinned clear through Sniffer. First ones I've
 seen in ages.
 Are we undergoing a new phase or campaign that I can make adjustments for?

 There has been some impressive activity in new spam campaigns this week, but
 nothing is consistently getting past us that I am aware of.

 There have been a number of very broken spam campaigns that gave us some
 trouble, and a few image spam campaigns that were more complex than most.

 Is there anything special you notice about the ones you've mentioned?

 _M

 PS: I was recently asked where image spam rules go so that a customer
 could ramp up the weight on that rule group. The vast majority of image spam
 rules are abstracts of message structures and occasionally image file
 fragments. These rules go in group 61 (Experimental / Abstract). This group
 has very low false positive rates as a rule (judging from FP submissions
 which are low in general).

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[sniffer] Re: MDLP

2006-07-12 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

It is my understanding the Declude's log formats have changed quite a
bit - at least as far as MDLP is concerned. When we asked about the
log format it was suggested that we wait a bit before we update MDLP
since the log format might change more. That advice and high
priorities on other development work (new SNF version etc) have kept
MDPL frozen and it will remain frozen for a bit longer.

Hope this helps,

_M

Wednesday, July 12, 2006, 10:25:38 AM, you wrote:

 Pete,

 I just moved to Declude 4x - how compatible is MDLP with this log 
 format?  Although reports are generated it seems to me some tests are 
 missing, etc.

 Thanks!

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[sniffer] Re: My rulebase download and log upload script

2006-07-10 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello John,

Any timing that works for you and is reasonable is just fine.
Reasonable means, not every 10 seconds/minutes.

Some send their file once per day --- others find that to be too large
and so they send it once per update. Both of these are good
practice.

If you are going to send your log file more than once every few hours
(such as once per hour or once per udpate) then you will need to make
sure you include something random in the name to avoid a possible
collision. Our log processing software is pretty fast, but now that
we're doing updates every 120 minutes or so there is always the risk
that a previous log file might not yet have been handled.

Hope this helps,

Thanks,

_M

Monday, July 10, 2006, 6:33:07 PM, you wrote:

 Reading through the updated script, I notice you are uploading the log file
 whenever the script runs. I currently upload the log file once per day.

 Pete, what is the preferred timing for uploading the log file?

 John T
 eServices For You

 Seek, and ye shall find!


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 Of
 Colbeck, Andrew
 Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:24 PM
 To: Message Sniffer Community
 Subject: [sniffer] My rulebase download and log upload script
 
 The last thing before I leave for the weekend...
 
 I finally got around to updating my download/upload script so that I can
 upload compressed logs.
 
 In the course of doing that, I found that my upgraded version of wget
 has changed its behaviour; as of the 1.10.x series, if you specify -O to
 specify the target filename, various options are ignored including the
 -N for download only if server side is newer.  Therefore, ever since I
 upgraded my wget, I've been downloading a compressed rulebase file on
 *each* run.
 
 Some of this script is antique and some of it is new.  I just downloaded
 the standard download script that Bill Landry ushered into this world,
 and my script was certainly informed by the discussions of that on this
 list.
 
 (I'm not trying to replace that script, I'm just giving credit where
 credit is due.)
 
 My .cmd file script is attached as a .txt file; as I mentioned a while
 back, I use both the IMail external script mailbox method to launch
 this file when SortMonster/ARM sends me my notification, and I also run
 it on a schedule with the AT command so that one of them will work to
 get timely updates.
 
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[sniffer] Re: Lot of stock spam getting through....

2006-07-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello George,

Thanks very much!

_M

Friday, July 7, 2006, 11:18:24 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Pete,
  
  I've been a customer for a couple of years and usually don't have
 much to say via maillists. But I wanted to take a moment this
 morning and think you for the work you do.  Keeping up with this
 stuff must force you to  keep your nose to the grindstone. I really 
 appreciate your work.
  Thanks again,
  
  George Thompson
  Cheif Technical Officer
  Levelfield.com, Inc
  www.levelfield.com
  DBA OnlineAgency.com
  www.onlineagency.com
  building the Internet one small business at a time
  
  I had a big fight with one like that all last night -- there are some
  unusual characters in the message that made it hard to filter and it
  took some time to do the analysis (picking through them with a hex
  editor).
  
  I think these are handled now (as of about 0400e this morning) as I
  don't have any getting through spamtraps at the moment. I will look
  into it again.
  
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[sniffer] Re: Lot of stock spam getting through....

2006-07-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

Thanks everyone, kind words are much appreciated. I must share them
with the rest of the SNF team who also work 24x7 to make this happen.
You don't see them often but I couldn't do it without them. This seems
like a good time to introduce a few of them and thank them publicly
for their efforts (We've come a long way in a year!):

Linda (TechGirl) [Accounting/Ops],
Karen (Tink) [Ops/Support/Web],
Jason (the Bag) [Filter Team Leader],
Adam (TheFelcher) [Rule-Tech],
Baron (Kojak) [Rule-Tech],
Michael U [Rule-Tech],
Nick G [Rule-Tech],

Michael M [Exec],
Scott C [Sales/Marketing],
Joel S [Hosting/Sourcing],

...then there's me...

Pete (Madscientist) [Science/Development],

Plus a bunch of folks (too many to list everyone) who help out from
time to time in too many ways to count.

Ok... work to do...

_M

Friday, July 7, 2006, 1:12:50 PM, you wrote:

 Great job, Pete!  And thanks for all of your efforts to simultaneously
 increase the catch rate and decrease the FP rate.

 Darin.

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[sniffer] Re: compressed updates

2006-06-27 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matrosity,

Tuesday, June 27, 2006, 4:04:46 PM, you wrote:

 I was wondering if updates would ever be compressed in the future to save 
 bandwidth?

Actually, if you are using the scripts with wget and gzip, they are
compressed on the fly by the web server.

_M

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[sniffer] Re: Update pacing...

2006-06-19 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Harry,

Monday, June 19, 2006, 4:47:14 PM, you wrote:

 My script does not check for update first.  Is there a sample that does do
 that that you can point me to?

This page describes automated updates and lists several scripts.

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer.TechnicalDetails.AutoUpdates

The one I recommend most for Winx based systems is ImailSnifferUpdateTools.zip

Don't let the name fool you - if you are NOT using IMail the scripts
are still great --- you will only need to find another way to call
them if your system does not provide a program alias functionality.

Hope this helps,

_M

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[sniffer] Re: Snf2check.exe on FreeBSD

2006-06-19 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Dan,

Monday, June 19, 2006, 5:30:15 PM, you wrote:

 I'm using sniffer on FreeBSD, plugging into Spamassassin.  I am trying
 to write a good autoupdate cron script that works as well on my FreeBSD
 box as did the one I used to have on my Imail box.  I can download the
 Sniffer DB, but I can't use snf2check.exe in my cron script.  When I
 manually run the script logged in as root, and it gets to the line:

 /var/spool/snfilter/snf2check.exe /var/spool/snfilter/filename.snf
 authcodexxx

 The file checks out OK, however when it runs from cron (as root) it
 always gets ERROR RULE AUTH.  Does anyone have an autoupdate script that
 is meant to run on a *nix-type system?  Or does anyone know a solution
 to my problem?

There is no reason I can think of for this not to work except perhaps
for a permissions problem. Error rule auth would generally indicate
that the file was corrupt, or that the authentication string is
incorrect.

All update scripts should use snf2check.exe before pressing the new
rulebase file into production or else you may cripple your scanner
with a bad file. (the SNF scanner does a less comprehensive check to
maintain speed).

All that said, on this page you can find PerlAutoUpdates and a few
others which might help:

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer.TechnicalDetails.SubmittedScripts

Best,

_M

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[sniffer] Weight Gate Success? Failure?

2006-06-13 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Is anyone successfully using the WeightGate utility?

  Anyone having trouble with it?

  I've literally heard nothing so far ;-)

  Thanks,

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[sniffer] Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]WeightGate source, just in case...

2006-06-08 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Pete,

Thursday, June 8, 2006, 9:41:55 AM, you wrote:


 It does look a little weird. Sometimes it's normal though. I'll see if
 I can identify anything odd in the settings.

 _M

 I've changed the settings. I hope this response works ok.

 _M

Testing. Sorry for the extra trafic - only way to debug it.

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[sniffer] Re: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]WeightGate source, just in case...

2006-06-08 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Pete,

Thursday, June 8, 2006, 9:42:42 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Pete,

 Thursday, June 8, 2006, 9:41:55 AM, you wrote:


 It does look a little weird. Sometimes it's normal though. I'll see if
 I can identify anything odd in the settings.

 _M

 I've changed the settings. I hope this response works ok.

 _M

 Testing. Sorry for the extra trafic - only way to debug it.

 _M

This seems to be working ok, Thanks for your patience.

_M

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[sniffer] Re: [sniffer][Fwd: Re: [sniffer]FP suggestions]

2006-06-08 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andrew,

Thursday, June 8, 2006, 11:32:47 AM, you wrote:

 Ditto.

 I advise people to use Insert, Item.  Far easier than explaining how to
 drag and drop (or tie shoelaces).

It might be nice to have a SnagIt of that process to share w/ users.

 I've noticed that whether the headers survive when they are sent to
 another Exchange+Outlook company are a crap shoot.

 Generally speaking, if the message is handled by Outlook, it's not the
 same message anymore. For example, a BASE64 encoded message becomes
 plain text, and attached graphics don't show up at all in the View
 Source version.

I just had an interesting FP case like this. By the time the match
record got to me along with what was supposed to be the original
message, there were at least 9K bytes missing - including the bytes
that presumably contained the rule match.

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 7:31:29 AM, you wrote:

   
  
 The one issue with this I have is
  
  
  
 1) Forward full  original source to Sniffer with license code.
  
 If we could do it without the license code, it  would be much
 easier to automate on our end.  I already have a process in  place
 to copy and reroute false positives by rewriting the Q file.  I'm 
 hesitant to alter the message itself to add the license code.  If we
 could  authenticate the FP report via some other means it would help
 greatly.  How  about connecting IP instead?

At the moment that is how it's done: a combination of email address
and source IP are matched with the license ID.

The reason we ask for the license ID is because folks submitting false
positives occasionally forget that we authenticate on their registered
email address and use some other address.

-- The rule is that if the system can't match the email address it
should/may drop the message rather than evaluating it. We get a lot of
spam and attempts to game the system at our false@ address... so when
it's heavy we do drop messages that can't be properly identified.

However, in an effort to provide the best service possible, if the
license ID is present and we have the time we will look to see if it
could be a legit FP submission by researching the source and domain -
and if we think it is likely to be legitimate we will process the FP
and respond with an additional code reminding the submitter that they
must use their registered email address or an authorized alias.

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 8:44:26 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Pete,

 Can I interpret this as email address and matching source IP are sufficient
 if the correct email address is used to submit?

Yes.

 If not, do you have any suggestions on how you would like to see us
 inserting the license ID in the D file?

To clarify, nothing should be inserted in the D file. The original
message should be attached as an RFC 822 attachment is as close to the
original form as possible.

The license id, if included at all, should be in the subject line of
the submission message.

Remember also, we WILL be responding to the submission message so that
we can record a dialogue with you about the false positive in
question.

Hope this helps,

Thanks,

_M


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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Scott,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 10:08:58 AM, you wrote:

   
  
 For me the pain of false positives submissions is  the research
 that happens when I get a no rule found return.
  
  
  
 I then need to find the queue-id of the original  message and then
 find the appropriate Sniffer log and pull out the log lines  from
 there and then submit it. Almost always in these cases, a rule is  removed.
  
  
  
 If this process could be improved that would really  be a time saver.

This depends on the email system you are using. On some systems
(MDaemon, and postfix, for example) X- headers from SNF can be emitted
into the message. When we see these we can identify the rules directly
without asking for the extra research.

It would be nice if Declude would offer a mechanism to pick up the
optional .xhdr file SNF can generate and include it in the X headers
that it already adds to the message.

I know this begs the question, why not have SNF add the headers for
SmarterMail and IMail platforms, and the reason is that it would
require writing an additional copy of the message to disk. Since these
systems tend to be io bound already (Declude/IMail anyhow) the
performance penalty would be prohibitive. If Declude picks up .xhdr
from SNF directly then it can be included in the ONE rewrite Declude
makes anyway.

I've asked them about this and other improved integration
opportunities for a while now (many months), and I get favorable
responses, but no action so far. I guess we will see :-)

_M

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 3:37:36 PM, you wrote:


  Pete,
  
  An X-Header would be very, very nice to have.  I understand the
 issues related to waiting to see if something comes through, and
 because of that, I would maybe suggest moving on your own.

I've got it on the list to have a message rewriting option... it's
just not as high as some others. I hadn't thought about the weight
gating utility - though that seems like something that would be useful
in general for external tests...

weightgate -5 %WEIGHT% 20 command line to run 5 0

command line to run is executed if %WEIGHT% is in the range [-5,20]
and the exit code of command line to run is returned.

That seems like a pretty simple utility to knock out - perhaps I will
;-)

Also, on the FP reporting links idea, that would break the process -
it's important for us to see the message for many reasons, and it's
important for the FP resolution process to be interactive.

_M


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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Matt,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 4:22:05 PM, you wrote:


  Pete,
  
  Since the %WEIGHT% variable is added by Declude, it might make
 sense to have a qualifier instead of making the values space
 delimited.

I don't want to mix delimiters... everything so far is using spaces,
so it makes sense to continue that way IMO.

   Errors in Declude could cause values to not be inserted,
 and not everyone will want to skip at a low weight.  I haven't seen
 any bugs with %WEIGHT% since shortly after it was introduced, but
 you never know.  I have seen some issues with other Declude inserted 
 variables though.

Well, errors are always a possibility, but in this case it _should_ be
reasonably safe. For example, if this is used to gate SNF, then a
missing %WEIGHT% would result in trying to launch a program with the
same name as the authentication string, and it is highly unlikely that
would be found, so the result would be the program not found error
code. That's not perfect because it's a nonzero result, but it is safe
in that it is not likely to launch another program.

  One other thing that I came across with the way that Declude calls
 external apps...you can't delimit the data with things like quotes. 
 There is no mechanism for escaping a functional quote from a quote
 that should appear in the data that you pass to it...so don't use
 quotes as delimiters :)

Not a problem...

I just whipped together a utility called WeightGate.exe that can be
downloaded here (for now):

http://www.messagesniffer.com/Tools/WeightGate.exe

Suppose you wanted to use it in Declude to skip running SNF if your
weight was already ridiculously low (perhaps white listed) or already
so high that you want to save the extra cycles. Then you might do
something like this:

SNF external nonzero c:\tool\WeightGate.exe -50 %WEIGHT% 30 c:\SNF\sniffer.exe 
authenticationxx 10 0

(hopefully that didn't wrap, and if it did you will know what I meant ;-)

To test this concept out you might first create a copy of
WeightGate.exe callled ShowMe.exe (case matters!) and then do
something like this:

SNF external nonzero c:\tool\ShowMe.exe -50 %WEIGHT% 30 c:\SNF\sniffer.exe 
authenticationxx 10 0

The result of that would be the creation of a file c:\ShowMe.log that
contained all of the parameters ShowMe.exe was called with -- that way
you wouldn't have to guess if it was correct. ShowMe.exe ALWAYS
returns zero, so this _should_ be safe ;-)

If you run WeightGate on the command line without parameters it will
tell you all about itself and it's alter ego ShowMe.exe.

That description goes like this (I may fix the typo(s) later):

WeightGate.exe
(C) 2006 ARM Research Labs, LLC.

This program is distributed AS-IS, with no warranty of any kind.
You are welcome to use this program on your own systems or those
that you directly support. Please do not redistribute this program
except as noted above, however feel free to recommend this program
to others if you wish and direct them to our web site where they
can download it for themselves. Thanks! www.armresearch.com.

This program is most commonly used to control the activation of
external test programs from within Declude (www.declude.com) based
on the weigth that has been calculated thus far for a given message.

As an added feature, if you rename this program to ShowMe.exe then
it will emit all of the command line arguments as it sees
them to a file called c:\ShowMe.log so that you can use it
as a debugging aid.

If you are seeing this message, you have used this program
incorrectly. The correct invocation for this program is:

WeightGate low weight hight program arg 1, arg 2,... arg n

Where:
  low = a number representing the lowest weight to run progra.
  weight = a number representing the actual weight to evaluate.
  high = a number representing the highest weight to run program.
  program = the program to be activated if weight is in range.
  arg 1, arg 2, ... arg n = arguments for program.

If weight is in the range [low,high] then WeightGate will run
program and pass all of arg 1, arg 2,... arg n to it. Then
WeightGate will collect the exit code of program and return it as
WeightGate's exit code.

If WeightGate gets the wrong number of parameters it will display
this message and return FAIL_SAFE (zero) as it's exit code.

If weight is not in range (less than low or greater than high)
then WeightGate will NOT launch program and will return FAIL_SAFE
(zero) as it's exit code.

As a deubgging aid, I was called with the following arguments:

arg[0] me = WeightGate

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:05:28 PM, you wrote:

snip/

 Uh, but the D file contains mime segments corresponding to attachments.

That's ok. SNF looks inside those, and w/ the FP scanning software
inside the rfc822 atachment also.

It's not perfect, but the majority of the time it does pick out the
rules that match and having the original helps us put those into
context.

The license id, if included at all, should be in the subject line of
the submission message.

 Good.  Subject line is easier and more reliable to parse out.  Not that it's
 needed per the original question.

:-)

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 5:09:27 PM, you wrote:

snip/

That would be a bad idea, sorry. After 30 days (heck, after 2) spam is
usually long-since filtered, or dead. As a result, looking at 30 day
old spam would have a cost, but little benefit.

 You misinterpreted what I was saying.  I was not at all suggesting sending
 old spam.  What I was talking about was copying spam@ with spam that does
 not fail sniffer _as it comes in_, or _during same day/next day reviews_

Sorry, I did misinterpret then. _as it comes in_ is good, provided the
weights are high enough to prevent a lot of FPs. We're all trained
pretty well on how to skip those - but the more we see, the more
likely we are to slip up ;-)

What we do use from time to time are virtual spamtraps. In a virtual
spamtrap scenario, you can submit spam that reached a very high (very
low false positive) score but did not fail SNF. Generally this is done
by copying the message to a pop3 account that can be polled by our
bots.

 That is exactly what I was suggesting.  We'll put it on our list to write a
 filter to do so when time permits.  Just trying to help.

Thanks very much!

_M

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]FP suggestions

2006-06-07 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Darin,

Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 7:26:48 PM, you wrote:

Unfortunately, by the time the message gets to us it is sometimes just
different enough that the original pattern cannot be found. There are
some folks who consistently have success, and some who occasionally
have problems, and a few who always have a problem.

 Different in what way?  Is the mail client encoding differently in the
 forwarding process?  If so, do you know what clients are altering the
 messages and how?  If there's one that's better for this, we could always
 use it for forwarding since we currently send it to ourselves first, then
 forward.

It is unclear - we receive FPs that have traveled through all sorts of
clients, quarantine systems, changed hands various numbers of times,
or not (to all of those)... Right now I don't want to make that
research project a high priority.

 If we rewrite the Q file and queue directly from IMail, encoding shouldn't
 change, correct?  If that avoids this issue, we could do that instead.

That's true it wouldn't change, but submitting the message directly
would not be correct - the dialogue is with you, and in any case,
additional trips through the mail server also modify parts of the
header and sometimes parts of the message (tag lines, disclaimers,
etc)...

The best solution is to include the headers during the scan since they
will travel with the message.

 What do you mean?  The XHDR?  We would love that for more several reasons,
 but Declude is not the same company anymore.

At some point perhaps they will include the SNF engine in DLL form and
all of these issues will become simpler. For now there's no definitive
answer on that possibility so we will have to find other solutions. I
don't like the idea of rewriting the message file more often than
absolutely necessary, but that is a feature that is on the todo list
and so it may make it into the next heavy update (work in progress).

The next best is to automate matching
the log entries with the message so they can be included with the
submission (some do this to prevent the second trip).

 Yeah, we'd have to automate it.  I can't imagine taking the time to manually
 match for each occurrence of no rule found.  Another item for the
 automation list.

_M

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[sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

I have a design question for you...

How many DNS based tests do you use in your filter system?

How many of them really matter?

Thanks!

_M

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Re: [sniffer]Numeric spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Markus,

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 3:27:32 AM, you wrote:

 Mabe people at Sniffer are already aware of this new type of spam. Not the
 malformed mailfrom one but this with the short number and nothing else in
 subject and body)

Thanks for those samples... I've coded an additional abstract for the
ones you sent.

 There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
 this morning passing our filters. Here too some tests has had positive
 results (see mail headers of attached samples) but sniffer has also
 completely missed.

It took a bit of work to generalize the pattern for the png stock spam
but I've got a new family of rules in place for it now... I'm waiting
on results to tally but I believe the rules will be effective.

If not we will continue to work on them.

Thanks,

_M

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Re: [sniffer]Concerned about amount of spam going through

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Michiel,

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 3:10:52 AM, you wrote:

  
 Crew,
  
  
   
 I'm a bit concerned about the amount of spam that Sniffer's not 
 getting. It used to be a near 99% catch rate, but now it looks like it's  
 down to 70%...?
  
  
  
 I opened my own mailbox  this morning and saw 5 false negatives,
 while 11 others were caught by  Sniffer. Haven't checked with my
 clients yet, but I think it will be the  same.
  
  
  
 Is there an explanation, besides another  spam storm?

IMO, the spam storm explanation is certainly applicable today - we've
seen a few spikes, this time bunched together in an unusual - nearly
continuous chain... still working on a theory for that.

In general, the image based spam trend has given everyone more
challenges.. I'm working on engine upgrades that will be out soon to
help with those and future threats.

Another thing that may have effected the last few days is that our
primary spam-trap processor ate itself causing large backlogs and
heavy fragmentation. There were a few hours (off-and-on) where the box
was not processing traffic so we were delayed responding with new
rules.

I've changed the software on that box and cleaned up the damage and it
is now happily sustaining ~900 msgs/minute so I don't expect further
problems from it in the short term.

Hope this helps,

_M

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Peer-to-Peer,

That's a good point.

Any kind, perhaps by category.

I was originally thinking of just RBLs of various types.

Thanks,

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 9:46:01 AM, you wrote:

 Hi _M,

 Do you mean like reverse PTR records, or HELO lookups, etc..?

 --Paul R.


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 Hello Sniffer Folks,

 I have a design question for you...

 How many DNS based tests do you use in your filter system?

 How many of them really matter?

 Thanks!

 _M




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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

What is your false positive rate with that pattern?

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Markus -

 Markus Gufler wrote:

There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
this morning passing our filters.

 I am catching these fairly easily -
 a combo filter -
 #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
 SKIPIFWEIGHT26
 TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
 BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
 #
 The body regex is this:
 src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Jonathan,

I urge caution from experience... png images are not entirely rare,
and the cid: tag format in the regex is also common.

I'd love to be wrong - but I recall false positives with similar
attempts in the past.

Is there more to this than the two elements I just described -
something I'm not seeing?

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:19:36 AM, you wrote:

 Nick, very good method.  I have added that to my configuration as well now.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Nick Hayer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Message Sniffer Community sniffer@sortmonster.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam


 Hi Markus -

 Markus Gufler wrote:

 There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png
 image)
 this morning passing our filters.
 
 I am catching these fairly easily -
 a combo filter -
 #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
 SKIPIFWEIGHT26
 TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
 BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
 #
 The body regex is this:
 src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@

 -Nick

 
 


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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Numeric spam topic change to png stock spam

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Nick,

Thanks.

That's all good then :-)

_M

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:46:55 AM, you wrote:


  Pete McNeil wrote: 
   
 Hello Nick,

 What is your false positive rate with that pattern? 
  
  Hmm lets go to the MDLP for yesterday  :)
  
                                             SS   HH  HS  SH   SA            SQ
  REGEX.STOCK.BODY    331    0    0    66    0.667506   0.445565
  COMBO.STOCK_PNG   16   0   0 1  0.882353  0.778547
  
  The regex alone will fp; I score it with a 3 [hold on 10; delete on 24]
  The png combo I just did it last night when I first saw the spam.
 So far I have not see any fp. [ I combo it (the regex) with other
 tests as well - which makes it much more reliable.]
  
  -Nick
  
  
  
   
 _M

 Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 10:05:18 AM, you wrote: 
   
   
 Hi Markus - 
   
   
  
   
   
 Markus Gufler wrote: 
   
   
  
   
   
   
 There is also another type of spam (stock spam now with attached png image)
 this morning passing our filters. 
   
   
 I am catching these fairly easily -
 a combo filter -
 #combo-stockspammer-png.txt
 SKIPIFWEIGHT26
 TESTSFAILEDENDNOTCONTAINSEXTERNAL.REGEX.STOCKSPAMMER.BODY
 BODY5CONTAINSContent-Type: image/png;
 #
 The body regex is this:
 src=cid:[a-z0-9]{12}\$[a-z0-9]{8}\$[a-z0-9]{8}@ 
   
   
  
   
   
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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]AW: [sniffer]Concerned about amount of spam going through

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andrew,

Tuesday, June 6, 2006, 11:44:46 AM, you wrote:

 David,

 Are you using the free version of sniffer? Or did you deliberately
 change your .exe name in your posting to sniffer.exe to hide your licence 
 number?

 I certainly expect that the rulebase lag with the free version will
 result in lower Message Sniffer hit rates.

Actually, since we've been offering production ready 30 day trials,
what once was the free version (as you put it) has been reduced to a
technology demonstrator. It is only useful for proving your system
configuration and barely catches spam at all ;-)

I believe the sniffer.snf rulebase has not been maintained in some
time.

 I've seen the free version with hit rates as low as 10% on the
 remaining messages that have been already filtered by a gateway,
 which I thought was still decent because these were the messages
 that had already evaded the blacklist tests.  And free is good.

 On the same system, I noted that this made Sniffer about half as
 effective as fresh SURBL/URIBL testing, but I had no way to compare their 
 overlap.

Interesting.

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]A design question - how many DNS based tests?

2006-06-06 Thread Pete McNeil
 segment of our subscriber base and to
customize individual subscribers in cases where their policy
disagrees. This customization process most frequently occurs as a
result of our false positive handling process... though it is worth
noting that the vast majority of reported false positives result in
rules being removed from the core rulebase.

To date, only a very small fraction of our customers have any
customization.

Ongoing development work and upcoming features are focused on
improving accuracy (on both the spam and ham sides of the equation),
improving response time, increasing SNFs flexibility and breadth,
reducing complexity, maintenance  administration, and improving speed
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Re: [sniffer]Sniffer updates down?

2006-06-02 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello John,

Friday, June 2, 2006, 5:22:45 PM, you wrote:

 I am getting errors since late last night that host can not be found.

I checked your license record and finding no problems successfully
downloaded your rulebase file from the expected URL.

Not sure what could be going on but it seems it must be local based on
what I've seen so far.

_M


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Re: [sniffer]Viagra Spam

2006-05-31 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Ali,

Wednesday, May 31, 2006, 2:44:28 AM, you wrote:

 How is everyone managing to deal with the upsurge of viagra spam mail.
 Sniffer does not seem to pick it up?

Just so you know we are on this... There are a set of abstracts coded
and we are collecting domain on this one as well. It is a new variant
of the one that started yesterday. It has quite a bit of bandwidth
behind it as well.

Rate Graph Image attached.

_M

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[sniffer]Spam Storm - It's a big one.

2006-05-26 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

Watch out for today's spam storm -- it's a lot bigger than we've seen
in a long while. 48 hour image attached.

A large component of this one is a broken spam with an empty subject
and two empty quoted printable segments.

There is a wide variety of other spam mixed in also however.

_M

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Re: [sniffer]spam storm

2006-05-23 Thread Pete McNeil
Tuesday, May 23, 2006, 10:35:01 AM, you wrote:

 Dear Sniffer Friends,

 Our servers are really getting slammed with spam.  Is anyone else seeing a
 hugh spam storm right now?


Hello Michael  Sniffer Folks,

http://reports.messagesniffer.com/Performance/FlowRates.jsp

Logs since about 0523.0100 have shown a spike and a heavy increase.

I was also called in on a new image spam wave early this morning
(about 6 hours ago), and there is a new snake-oil spam going around -
just text about canadian drugs and a link - but prolific, lots of
bandwidth, and an inexhaustible supply of domains (luckily that's not
all we use).

Today seems a stair step up from the previous spam storm alert a few
days ago.

48 hour image attached.

Note: We've throttled back one of our heaviest spamtraps to keep our
sampling more current (the increased volume was causing some
queueing). As a result, the peaks on the graph are lower than they
might normally be... the shape of the graph is the important part of
the image. The flow rates analysis (link at top) shows the shelf
starting at 0100 and building.

Hope this helps,

_M

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Re: [sniffer]possibly moving to new os

2006-05-20 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello steve,

Saturday, May 20, 2006, 4:51:10 PM, you wrote:

   
  
 Hi,
  
  
  
 We are a current  Imail/sniffer/declude customer.  
  
  
  
 We are thinking of  moving away from our current Imail setup to one using 
 postfix. 
  
  
  
 I downloaded the 30  trial.  Is it possible to transfer our license
 to the new setup after we  finish testing?

Yes.

If you have a valid license and you move to a new platform you can
take that license with you. One license per MTA is all that we
require.

Thanks!

_M

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Ebay Phishing Emails getting through

2006-05-18 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Andrew,

Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 5:35:36 PM, you wrote:

 Certainly, submitting samples to spam@ (or preferably your 
 local spam submission point polled by our bots) will put 
 these messages in front of us if we have not already created 
 rules for them.

 I've just manually submitted the ~35 messages that my filters triggered
 on for phishing that didn't trigger Message Sniffer today but ended up
 in my HOLD folder anyway due to their total spamminess.

 Most of them are against eBay and came from Germany.

If your overall false positive rate is low enough then it would be
great if you could automate that process to create a synthetic
spamtrap. Somehow, take the most spammy of the messages that get past
SNF and send them to a special account on your system from which our
robots could pull the messages Since we code rules 24x7x365 we
would be able to respond to these quickly and (from your perspective)
automatically.

_M


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Re: [sniffer]Ebay Phishing Emails getting through

2006-05-17 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Jim,

Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 2:46:48 PM, you wrote:

 Has anyone else been getting an excess amount of ebay phishing emails making
 it through sniffer today?  I have personally received a couple of them and
 have multiple users reporting the same.  I have forwarded them to the
 sniffer spam@ address if you can take a look Pete it would be much
 appreciated.

ot

Ah... So the list is working :-) I'll have to update the signup
instructions... I can check that off the list.

/ot

Today, starting at about 0100 E, the blackhats really took it up a
notch. I know because I was on duty making rules at the time.

One of the things I saw a lot of were new phishing attacks - all
varieties and variants.

I know the team has been pushing hard on these, but some are bound to
get through on the first few passes.

Another thing we've noticed in the grand scheme is that localized
phishing attacks are becoming more common. These are less likely to
hit our spamtraps since the target lists used are highly regional --
so if we don't have a spamtrap in that geography our view of the spam
may be delayed. We're working on this problem on a number of fronts..
Ideas, as always, are welcome.

Certainly, submitting samples to spam@ (or preferably your local spam
submission point polled by our bots) will put these messages in front
of us if we have not already created rules for them.

_M

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[sniffer]Re[2]: [sniffer]Ebay Phishing Emails getting through

2006-05-17 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Daniel,

Wednesday, May 17, 2006, 3:07:38 PM, you wrote:

 I've gotten one myself.

 The pharmacy ones, are still coming through too for that matter.

Here is what the latest wave has looked like from here (attached
image).

You can see, starting about 24 hours ago a jagged, but fairly regular
climbing series of spikes. Each is a new wave of variants on the
current campaigns. Most notably, the the medications drug spam,
chatty drugs, russian porn, phishing (especially localized versions),
and stuff-for-free* surveys.

Of course a variety of the usual players is well mixed in.

During the previous 24 hours things were _relatively_ quiet.

_M

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Test

2006-05-15 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello sniffer,

  Just testing.

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[sniffer] zipping log files

2006-05-12 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

 I expect to be able to accept compressed log files within the next
 few days if all goes as planned.

 I will announce that ability on this list when we are ready.

Is it possible now?

Roger

Sorry for the odd way of posting this response, I'm in the middle of
changing mail servers and the old one is a bit confused.

Roger,

Go ahead and post logs that are zipped using the following rules:

Only use GZIP or ZIP.

* If you use GZIP then your uploaded log file name should be:

yourdomain.yourSNFlicenseid.log.gz

(as in microneil.com.snf2beta.log.gz)

or alternately

yourdomain.yourSNFlicneseid.randombit.log.gz

* If you use ZIP then your uploaded log file name should be:

yourdomain.yourSNFlicenseid.log.zip

alternately

yourdomain.yourSNFlicenseid.randombit.log.zip


* If you send your log files frequently then please do include a
timestamp or random number to avoid a collision. Above I've
represented this as randombit.

* If you send your log files more than a couple hours apart then you
probably don't need the randombit.

 The file inside the .gz or .zip _MUST_ be your naked log file. No
subdirectories and no multiple files. 

That should do it...

It's not set up yet (I've been distracted working on other SNF stuff)
but I will have scripting in place to handle the above within a few
minutes.

Thanks,

_M

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Re: [sniffer] zipping log files

2006-05-12 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Pete,

Friday, May 12, 2006, 1:48:00 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Sniffer Folks,

 I expect to be able to accept compressed log files within the next
 few days if all goes as planned.

 I will announce that ability on this list when we are ready.

Is it possible now?

Roger

 Sorry for the odd way of posting this response, I'm in the middle of
 changing mail servers and the old one is a bit confused.

 Roger,

 Go ahead and post logs that are zipped using the following rules:

snip/

 It's not set up yet (I've been distracted working on other SNF stuff)
 but I will have scripting in place to handle the above within a few
 minutes.

The code is now in place and has been tested.

Best,

_M


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[sniffer] Missing false positives from today - mail server changes are hard.

2006-05-12 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  We are in the process of moving mail servers around, and as is often
  the case when mice or men make plans, things have gone awry.

  It appears that false positive reports made today may have been lost
  due to mail routing errors. Apologies.

  If you submitted a false positive today, please re-send it and I
  will process it as quickly as possible. At the moment things appear
  to be working.

  We will have finished these moves within the next few days and
  hopefully during the remainder of the transition things will go more
  smoothly.

  Thanks!

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Re[4]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Chuck,

I sent a different message off list, but just in case you don't get
that one - I've received a number of bounce notifications from your
system (transient non-fatal delivery errors).

There's a good chance that your rulebase is out of date if your update
notifications are bouncing.

Indicators here are in the nominal range for leakage for the past 24
hours.

Hope this helps,

_M

On Friday, May 5, 2006, 7:14:00 PM, Chuck wrote:

CS It is not slowing down out here.

CS Chuck Schick
CS Warp 8, Inc.
CS (303)-421-5140
CS www.warp8.com

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CS To: Darin Cox
CS Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer


CS On Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:02:00 AM, Darin wrote:

DC Not just drugs, but some others too have been slipping through the 
DC past couple of days.  We've reported a little under 40 in the past 
DC couple of days.

CS We saw a bit of a lull, then a rash of new campaigns bunched together with
CS some new obfuscation techniques. We're getting a handle on it now. Looks
CS like the burst started about 30 hours ago and is tailing off now.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:02:00 AM, Darin wrote:

DC Not just drugs, but some others too have been slipping through the past
DC couple of days.  We've reported a little under 40 in the past couple of
DC days.

We saw a bit of a lull, then a rash of new campaigns bunched together
with some new obfuscation techniques. We're getting a handle on it
now. Looks like the burst started about 30 hours ago and is tailing
off now.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Pete McNeil
We've had that rule before and had to pull it for false positives.

_M


On Friday, May 5, 2006, 11:41:50 AM, John wrote:

JTL FYI, I created a Declude Filter:

JTL Subject END NOTCONTAINS news
JTL BODY25  CONTAINShttp://geocities.com/

JTL Been catching every one like that.

JTL John T
JTL eServices For You

JTL Seek, and ye shall find!


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 PO Box 187 Sangerville, ME 04479 USA
 TEL 207-876-3541  FAX 207-876-3566
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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
  Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:34 AM
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  Subject: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer
 
  The last few days tons on Drus spam is coming in and sniffer
  is catching
  none of it.
 
  Chuck Schick
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Re[4]: [sniffer] Lot of Drugs Spam getting through sniffer....

2006-05-05 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, May 5, 2006, 1:08:14 PM, John wrote:

JTL Well, I am at the point that I could care less about geocities false
JTL positives. If GeoCities is going to allow this much spam junk then I could
JTL care less about allowing them.

That's fine.

There are probably a number of systems that feel that way. I only
meant to say that we've tried a block-first strategy w/ geocities
before and had to remove it. YMMV.

You should also know (may remember) that the blackhats experimented a
while ago with using several other hosting sites, including msn, and
seeding them in round-robin fashion so that they all appeared in each
campaign. Since this experiment stopped abruptly I doubt that it has
been abandoned - rather, it was put on the shelf for a while. At the
time it was clearly effective for them. I think it likely they will do
that again (don't know when) since they are putting some new effort
into this path. I don't have any evidence of it yet.

I discovered that on 20060503 the blackhats made some significant
changes to their use of geocities links and their transmission
patterns. I've re-tuned the F002 bot to compensate and it is currently
reviewing a handful of new geocities links every minute and adding
approximately 1.2 new rules per minute.

I suspect that the lull we observed may have had something to do with
their tooling up for this set of campaigns.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] Message loop

2006-04-20 Thread Pete McNeil
Yes, I'm sorry. I'm still working on that with the back-end server
guys over there. I am getting your messages though. Please ignore the
jsmith bounces for now. I will keep on them.

Thanks!

_M

On Thursday, April 20, 2006, 12:11:25 PM, Scott wrote:

SF Still happening when I reply to false positive messages from you:

SF Failed to deliver to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
SF mail loop: too many hops (too many 'Received:' header fields)

SF - Original Message - 
SF From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SF To: Matt sniffer@SortMonster.com
SF Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:03 PM
SF Subject: Re: [sniffer] Message loop


 On Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 7:20:01 PM, Matt wrote:

 M
 M  Pete,
 M
 M  I tried replying to some FP reports and I received back some loop 
 reports from your gateway:
 M
 M
 M
 M
 M Failed to deliver to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 M mail loop: too many hops (too many 'Received:' header fields)

 I'm aware of the problem. It's actually a problem on our partners'
 servers. They are making a transition and the destination server is
 unhappy about the number of hops required to get there through our
 forwarding chain.

 I believe they have adjusted these settings this afternoon to
 compensate.

 Thanks!

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Re: [sniffer] Sniffer application

2006-04-19 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 11:05:15 AM, Jeff wrote:

JA Peter,

JA  I have taken over the network administration for Neptune Chemical Pump Co.
JA  Could I get a manual for the sniffer software.  That is how to use set up
JA  and confirm it is still configured correctly.

You can find the root of our documentation here:

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

And the Message Sniffer specific part begins here:

http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer

We have been reorganizing and expanding our documentation. To ensure
that it will be as good as possible, we are allowing people to edit
the documentation online when they feel something could be added or
improved. If you would like to have an account for the wiki please
send a note to support@ and we will set you up.

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Re: [sniffer] Message loop

2006-04-19 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 7:20:01 PM, Matt wrote:

M
M  Pete,
M  
M  I tried replying to some FP reports and I received back some loop reports 
from your gateway:
M  
M  
M  
M  
M Failed to deliver to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
M mail loop: too many hops (too many 'Received:' header fields)

I'm aware of the problem. It's actually a problem on our partners'
servers. They are making a transition and the destination server is
unhappy about the number of hops required to get there through our
forwarding chain.

I believe they have adjusted these settings this afternoon to
compensate.

Thanks!

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[sniffer] Bad Rule Alert: 963461

2006-04-18 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  We have a bad rule circulating in some rulebases. The rule has
  already been discovered and removed.

  Please create a rule-panic entry for rule id: 963461 just in case
  you might have a copy of the rule. After your next update (or
  tomorrow about the same time if it is easier) you can remove the
  rule-panic entry.

  Sorry for the trouble,

  Hope this helps,

Thanks,
_M

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[sniffer] Bad Rule Alert: 963461 follow up.

2006-04-18 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Regarding rule 963461 - the rule was coded for a short sequence of
  nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; (3x). It was misinterpreted and/or miscopied as part of
  obfuscation.

  The rule was coded at 20060417.1929 E and removed at approximately
  20060418.1000 E.

  There was one additional rule pulled (963533) which was coded for a
  binary segment of an image file. No hits have been reported on the
  second rule at this time.

Best,
_M

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Re[2]: [sniffer] False positive processing

2006-03-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 11:37:30 AM, Darin wrote:

DC Nope.  None of them.

DC I haven't heard back from the replies to a couple of false positives on the
DC 10th, and we haven't heard anything from our submissions on the 16th (6) and
DC 17th (2).  I don't remember if we've heard anything from those on the 15th
DC (4).

Right now I'm preparing to process FPs. I have a total of 24. 15 from
you. I don't show any others pending. When I'm done I'll go back and
look at the 10th, 16th, and 17th to see if I received and responded.

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Re[4]: [sniffer] False positive processing

2006-03-21 Thread Pete McNeil
I have responded off list.

Let me know (off list) if you got my response just in case it goes
missing again.

Thanks,

_M

On Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 12:04:29 PM, Darin wrote:

DC Right.  15 from today.  Let me know what you find out.  The ones from the
DC 10th were replies to FP processing to investigate further and apply white
DC rules.  The others were normal FP reports.

DC Thanks,

DC Darin.


DC - Original Message - 
DC From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DC To: Darin Cox sniffer@SortMonster.com
DC Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:52 AM
DC Subject: Re[2]: [sniffer] False positive processing


DC On Tuesday, March 21, 2006, 11:37:30 AM, Darin wrote:

DC Nope.  None of them.

DC I haven't heard back from the replies to a couple of false positives on
DC the
DC 10th, and we haven't heard anything from our submissions on the 16th (6)
DC and
DC 17th (2).  I don't remember if we've heard anything from those on the
DC 15th
DC (4).

DC Right now I'm preparing to process FPs. I have a total of 24. 15 from
DC you. I don't show any others pending. When I'm done I'll go back and
DC look at the 10th, 16th, and 17th to see if I received and responded.

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Re: [sniffer] Updates slow

2006-03-20 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, March 20, 2006, 3:58:03 PM, John wrote:

JTL It seems today that updates have been slow to retrieve, the last one being
JTL averaging 54 Kbps. Updates are triggered on the e-mail update notice.

I just retrieved your rulebase at an average of 267K/sec via my DSL.
My DL rate is 3Mbps - so that's just about full bandwidth.

Occasionally there are high bursts of traffic - perhaps you met one of
those.

Another possibility is that your specific network path may have, or
have had an issue --- on the previous report of slow downloads it
turned out that RackSpace was working on a network problem that seemed
to effect only some paths into the server(s).

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[sniffer] New Web Site!

2006-03-17 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Today we are making a major transition. The old Message Sniffer web
  site will be torn down and replaced with a new WIKI:

  http://kb.armresearch.com/index.php?title=Message_Sniffer

  The top Message Sniffer page will retain it's index for a while but
  instead of sending you to the original pages the links will take you
  to appropriate pages in the new WIKI.

  Also - if you try to go directly to an old page you will be
  redirected automatically to the appropriate new page.

  The WIKI requires that you create an account and log-in before
  making any changes. We know there are blackhats out there so we will
  be watching very closely... If we find there is abuse, we will
  disable the ability to create accounts and you will need to contact
  us at support@ if you want the ability to post -- let's hope it
  doesn't come to that.

  We will continue to update, improve, and correct the wiki - it will,
  in fact, be under constant development.

  Have fun!

Thanks,

_M
  
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Re[2]: [sniffer] New Web Site!

2006-03-17 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, March 17, 2006, 11:53:58 AM, John wrote:

JTL What is the purpose of using a WIKI site?

A few things really -

* It's fast and easy to create, update, and correct the content.
Things happen quickly here and in the messaging security business in
general. It makes sense to use tools that can adapt just as quickly
and with as little friction as possible.

* Some of our user community contribute software and technical
knowledge on a regular basis. A wiki makes that process easier. This
is particularly useful where SNF overlaps with other software - The
folks who use, develop, or maintain that software can now participate
openly in developing documentation for that work.

* We've always maintained a collaborative relationship with our
customers and this helps to enforce that point.

* One of the things we've always encouraged is the sharing of
information related to, but not necessarily about SNF. For example, it
is not uncommon for a discussion about integrating SMF with a mail
server to branch off into a wide range of loosely related topics from
DNS, to server and network performance, to handy tools and tricks.

We have a lot of experts in our community. Quite Often, difficult to
find solutions lurk in the context of the discussions on and off our
list. Now those solutions can be captured here in the natural context
in which they came up so that they will be easy to find.

--

Consider this approach part of fostering a strong user community and
providing a resource that goes beyond our own products and services.

At the end of the day we are working shoulder to shoulder with the
developers, managers, administrators, and users of all kinds of
systems. We want this wiki to be a valuable resource for anybody who
uses SNF, and lots of folks who don't (yet).

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Re[4]: [sniffer] New Web Site!

2006-03-17 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, March 17, 2006, 12:50:40 PM, John wrote:

JTL Pete, while I fully understand all of what you said, allowing any one
JTL registered to edit any page is leaving things wide open for abuse. Isn't
JTL there a way to set permissions on a section basis? Example, I should not
JTL have the ability to edit the recent events page and not that I would, but I
JTL am human and humans make mistakes and do dumb things from time to time.

The facilities are already in place for the system admin (us) to lock
any page.

Also, in order to make everyone more comfortable with this I have
changed the settings so that only the system administrator can create
an account.

-- What that means is that if anyone wants to contribute they will
have to send a note to support@ to have an account created for them.

We will create an account for anyone who has something of value to
contribute. We will revoke any accounts that abuse the system.

It makes me sad to have to do this so soon after turning the system
on, but apparently there is no other way to do this without causing a
near panic.

Hope this helps,

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Re: [sniffer] reporting spam

2006-03-16 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, March 16, 2006, 5:18:00 PM, Roger wrote:

RM I just found out that when you are reporting received spam to
RM [EMAIL PROTECTED], you should remove the Received: header added by your
RM mail server. Otherwise you might create a rule that filters all mail from
RM your mail server.

Yikes - that's not true. We only rarely ever examine the received
headers in submitted spam - and then only when we're verifying some
other hunch we're following. We almost exclusively focus on the body
of the message content and it's coding.

Rarely, but none the less it happens, we will pick up a domain that is
spoofed in submitted spam or otherwise entangled in the message.

Submitted spam is never processed automatically - so when this does
happen it is always human error - and we are very careful with our
procedures to make sure it doesn't happen.

Occasionally one slips through and if that happens the rule is moved
to a special rule group so that it can never happen again.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

Thanks,

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Re: [sniffer] New add compain

2006-03-10 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, March 10, 2006, 2:00:42 PM, John wrote:

JTL I am seeing a log of spam with a subject line of with fw: or re: followed 
by
JTL the username portion of the reciepient. Any way to create a rule for this?

There's nothing simple we can do for this one based on that alone - at
least not without risking a lot of false positives. We are looking at
structural abstracts wherever there is content. Many that we see are
empty.

SNF is not yet good at seeing what is NOT there.

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[sniffer] F001 Rule Bot Change

2006-03-09 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  The F001 Rule Bot has been adjusted. The number of repeat offenses
  required for an IP to be listed has been increased. It's important
  to note also: Messages that are filtered out by other rules are
  excluded from this evaluation. Consequently, for an IP to be added
  to the F001 bot rules it must not only be seen quite a few times,
  but it must also be generating messages that are not filtered using
  other active rules.

  As part of this adjustment we removed approximately 2 IP rules
  that had shown either weak or no activity since they were created.
  This may cause rulebase file sizes to change noticeably.

Thanks,
_M

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Re[2]: [sniffer] F001 Rule Bot Change

2006-03-09 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, March 9, 2006, 8:48:43 AM, Nick wrote:

NH Hi Pete -

NH Pete McNeil wrote:

Hello Sniffer Folks,

  The F001 Rule Bot has been adjusted. 

NH Is it possible for you to recommend a percentage of accuracy or maybe 
NH better stated a percentage of delete weight for each rule?  I  am 
NH wondering which rules you feel are the weakest and which are the 
NH strongest.  I am well aware 'mileage may vary' but just your thoughts on
NH reliability would be insightful.  Currently the rules I trust the most
NH are at 90% of my hold weight which overall is less than 50% of my delete
NH weight. Rules that I trust the least like general and experimental are
NH at ~ 40% of my hold weight.

It's a bit too early to know about the reliability of F001. So far the
number of false positives has fallen quite sharply and continues to
fall from what I can see. In addition, the new constraints on F001
will cause it to be much more reliable still (w/ regard to FPs).

I would say that the most conservative weight for symbol 63 would be
to weight it at the same weight as your average IP based blacklist.

A more moderate position might have the lowest rated SNF tests at
about 70% of your hold weight (this seems to be fairly common).

Hope this helps,

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Re: [sniffer] [Fwd: Starbucks $500 Prize #972499912]

2006-03-07 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 5:00:33 PM, Heimir wrote:

HE Why is this not filtered?

HE Every one of them contains the word

HE Domains4u

HE I have reported several but they are still coming in.

Actually, they are now (I tried coding the message and duped out on
the domain rules).

Domains4u is not by itself sufficient coding so we don't have a rule
like that.

If you would like to add that rule we can, but please make the request
to support@ and not the public list.

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Re: [sniffer] declude tests

2006-03-07 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, March 7, 2006, 4:58:35 PM, Harry wrote:

HV   
HV  
HV at the moment I run  the following test in declude
HV
HV SNIFFER  external nonzero 
HV D:\IMail\Declude\sniffer\xx.exe  persistent 13  0
HV

THIS IS WRONG!

You should not have the persistent command line option in your Declude
configuration. You should only run your persistent instance outside of
Declude. Run only peer instances (without the persistent keyword) from
inside Declude.

HV I have seen a more  detailed setup before and am interested in
HV doing that here also.  Is there  a comprehensive list somewhere along with 
instructions?
HV
HV If I want to apply  separate weighting using only some of the
HV detailed test and then a catchall test  for the rest, is that possible?

Sure. The easiest way I know of is to leave your existing line in
place and then add an additional test (using SNF) that adjusts the
specific result code you want to tune.

For example, if you wanted to back down group 63 you might add a line:

SNF63 external 63 D:\IMail\Declude\sniffer\xx.exe  -3 0

Declude will recognize that the command line is identical and will
simply reuse the result with the new test name SNF63 instead of
running SNF again.

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[sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer folks,

  The first of the new rulebots is coming online.

  Rulebot F001 creates IP rules for sources that consistently fail
  many tests while also reaching the cleanest of our spamtraps.

  The rules will appear in group 63.

  The bot is playing catchup a bit (since there have been few IP rules
  at all since we disabled the old bots).

  The algorithms used in this bot have been tested manually for 2
  weeks with no false positives.

  Expect an increase in your rulebase size while F001 catches up with
  current spamtrap data.

Thanks,

_M

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[sniffer] New rulebase compilers online.

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  I have just completed work to upgrade the rulebase compiler bots.
  They are now significantly more efficient. As a result you will be
  seeing updates more frequently.

  Previous lag was between 40-120 minutes.

  Current lag (sustained) is  5 minutes.

  More timely updates should equate to lower spam leakage for new
  spam.

  You do not need to take any action on this. This note is for your
  information only.

Thanks,

_M

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Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil

On Monday, March 6, 2006, 3:13:53 PM, Jay wrote:

JSHNL There's been at least one FP ;)

JSHNL --
JSHNL Rule - 861038
JSHNL NameF001 for Message 2888327: [216.239.56.131]
JSHNL Created 2006-03-02
JSHNL Source  216.239.56.131
JSHNL Hidden  false
JSHNL Blocked false
JSHNL Origin  Automated-SpamTrap
JSHNL TypeReceivedIP
JSHNL Created By  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JSHNL Owner   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JSHNL Strength2.08287379496965
JSHNL False Reports   0

Yes, sorry about the confusion. The original announcement happened
about 3 days before that FP. The note was a resend this afternoon so
that Karen (Tink) could update the web site with recent news.

In fact, both of those notes were resends... The originals didn't make
it because I transposed the s and n near the t in sortmonster.

Sorry again for the confusion.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, March 6, 2006, 3:42:50 PM, Darin wrote:

DC We just reviewed this morning's logs and had a few false positives.  Not
DC sure if these are due to the new rulebot, but it's more than we've had for
DC the entire day for the past month.

DC Rules
DC --
DC 873261
DC 866398
DC 856734
DC 284831
DC 865663

Three of these are from F001 and have been removed.

865663 - http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=64.233.166.182
 http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=64.233.166.182

856734 - http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=64.249.82.200
 http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=64.249.82.200

873261 - http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=207.217.120.227
 http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=207.217.120.227


I haven't yet processed the fps, only looked up the rules.

There are currently 32820 rules authored by the F001 bot.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] New rulebase compilers online.

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, March 6, 2006, 6:09:43 PM, Matt wrote:

M Pete,

M Does this mean that you are somehow supporting incremental rule base 
M updates, or is it that the compiler is just much faster so we will get
M the same number of updates, but generally get them 40-120 minutes 
M earlier in relation to the data that generated them?

The latter. Incremental updates are coming with the V3 engine. We will
have real time reporting and tuning before that.

The new behavior for the compiler bots is to seek out any eligible
rulebases that match the profile of the previously compiled rulebase
and to use the cached data to build the new rulebase provided it is
discovered within a short enough period (a matter of seconds). This is
called replication. Replication happens in seconds. Compiling a
rulebase takes between 5 and 35 minutes depending on the complexity.

While I have seen occasional spikes, I generally now see unfinished,
eligible rulebase counts in the low teens and estimated lag in the
single digits.

M Either way, definitely an improvement.  The closer to real-time we can
M get, the better.

:-)

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Re[4]: [sniffer] New Rulebot F001

2006-03-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, March 6, 2006, 7:24:20 PM, Andrew wrote:

snip

CA I would like to state that I don't need Message Sniffer to
CA identify servers that send bogus postmaster notifications.  This
CA would be entirely due to false positives such as the three
CA examples above.

CA Given that spammers clearly recycle their email database as a
CA fake-mailfrom database, any spamtrap address will get bogus bounces and
CA therefore, the spamtraps will flag legitimate senders' IP addresses in
CA Rule 63.

CA I don't expect nor want you to discuss the details of the
CA spamtraps as the point of one class of your spamtraps is that
CA their methods are secret.  However, Matt has described a subset of
CA the filters various Decluders have used to filter out postmaster
CA bounces and other reflected noise, and I can certainly chip in on
CA that conversation offline.

In addition to all previous IP rule false positives, any new false
positives will be kept in the rulebase to prevent any repeats.

Regarding outscatter, we do create rules where we can to eliminate
known outscatter - when the bounce contains sufficient information to
identify it clearly as originating from malware or known spam.

However, the trap F001 is using are pre-processed with mediation rules
to blind the system from these kinds of messages. These rules are
not complete (perhaps never will be) but they are pretty good and
getting better.

With each new case we will be refining what cannot be seen by bots or
even people from these sources.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer, MDLP, and invURIBL?

2006-02-25 Thread Pete McNeil
On Saturday, February 25, 2006, 1:38:53 PM, Joe wrote:

JW   
JW  
JW I would actually prefer that MDLP autotune the weight for 
JW invURIBL, but since the weights are managed by invURIBL and not
JW Declude I don't  know how this will work.

I'm not familiar enough with invURIBL to know how it is configured.
However, as long as it's maximum and minumum weights are in a
reasonable range, then if you exclude it from MDLP you should be ok.

MDLP's AI tries to optimize the weights of the tests it can manipulate
so that the most accurate total scores are provided. If there are
tests it cannot adjust then it is forced to work around those with the
other tests.

The results are not predictable (the task is far too dynamic and
contains far too many variables) but they should be sane and correct.

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Re[2]: [sniffer] Running sniffer as a service

2006-02-24 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, February 24, 2006, 7:13:47 AM, Jeff wrote:

JP Do I need to modify anything in my Declude configuration file where it calls
JP the SNIFFER test in order for this to function ??

No. You set up a persistent instance outside of Declude and the other
SNF instances adapt automatically.

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Re[6]: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-24 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, February 24, 2006, 10:31:25 AM, Goran wrote:

GJ Hi,

GJ I just got my service up and running using Matt's post 

GJ http://www.mail-archive.com/sniffer@sortmonster.com/msg00169.html

GJ It was simple especially since I already the resource kit installed.

GJ Now I know that this I supposed to work to get the persistent instance
GJ to load the new rulebase after a download.

GJ REM Load new rulebase file.
GJ %LicenseID%.exe reload


GJ But is there any way to query the service and ask it to tell you when
GJ was the last time the rulebase was loaded? Or what version of the
GJ rulebase it is using?

By default, the persistent instance will reload the rulebase about
once every 10 minutes.

The reload command creates a semaphore file in the workspace and waits
for it to disappear. When the persistent instance has complied it will
delete the file. Therefore, the command  licenseid.exe reload 
will generally not return until the rulebase has been reloaded.

In some cases, due to a timing function bug, the persistent instance
may not respond to the reload or other semaphores... however, it does
still reload itself every 10 minutes or so. A sure way of reloading
the rulebase if you need to force it and you suspect something isn't
quite right is to restart the persistent instance.

GJ When running in peer mode this question does not
GJ arise since the instances read the file off disk so there is no problem.
GJ With the persistent instance this is not the case and I would like to
GJ know that it really is using the newest rulebase.

Just to clarify a bit... in peer-server mode, a server-peer will load
the rulebase, process some number of messages including it's own, and
then return. So, reloads are frequent, but not guaranteed.
Client-peers do not load the rulebase.

The persistent instance processes many more messages than a
server-peer and then reloads after it drops. Otherwise it is very much
the same as an ordinary peer instance.

As a rule, unless something is broken then you can be sure the new
rulebase is running within about 10 minutes (by default) of when it
appears in the workspace.

Hope this helps,

_M

PS: I'm working on adding some of the version 3 features to version 2
for testing and tuning on our way to a full version 3 engine. Soon I
will be coming out with incremental version 2 releases on our way to
3. I will be making instrumentation features a priority since they
will be helpful while tuning and (hopefully not) debugging the new
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Re: [sniffer] False Positives

2006-02-23 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, February 23, 2006, 5:48:55 AM, Kevin wrote:

KR So when I asked how I would send in false positives, someone mentioned
KR that I should look up the appropriate log entry and send that in. That
KR brings up another question.  My log file is 270MB and climbing.  I've 
KR never opened it cause it's too big.  Do you have a reader for your log
KR files?

I recommend you delete your current log - or at least set it aside
until you've completed work on the FPs in question. There are editors
out there (I like slickedit) that will handle files that large.

That said, your log file should never get that large. You should
rotate it out and send it to us once a day or so.

There are some scripts to handle that for you:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/AutomatingUpdatesHelp.html

Details about your log file are here:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/LogsHelp.html

KR I think it would be nice to have a little list of things to do to send
KR in false positives:


KR 1. Have your users send you the false positive.  Save it as an .eml file (?)
KR 2. Look up (somehow) the entry in your log file that corresponds to that
KR .eml file.  Copy and paste that text into a new email.
KR 3. Send an email from your primary Sortmonster email address, attaching
KR the .eml file and any log portion as necessary.

KR Is this correct?

Everything you want to know about false positives (most likely) is on
this page - including step by step instructions:

http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/FalsePositivesHelp.html

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Re: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-23 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, February 23, 2006, 11:30:02 AM, Goran wrote:

GJ Hi,

GJ Is there any good rule of thumb, in terms of messages processed per
GJ minute/hour/day when you should move to a persistent instance of
GJ Sniffer?

I would suggest using the persistent mode unless you have a reason not
to. (In very rare cases it may not perform as well as peer-server
mode.)

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Re[2]: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-23 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, February 23, 2006, 11:53:51 AM, LLC wrote:

JISL I'm investigating the persistant mode and read the info on the web site.
JISL Can't make heads or tails of it.

JISL How do enable persistant mode on a Windows 2003 Server?  The web site 
speaks
JISL hypothetically, but the information is not practical.

From the message at 
JISL http://www.mail-archive.com/sniffer@sortmonster.com/msg00165.html it would
JISL seem that you need an external utility to run Sniffer in persistant mode,
JISL but the link to
JISL http://www.judoscript.com/goodies/RunExeSvc/runexesvc.html 
JISL is no longer valid.

JISL What exact steps are needed to run in persistant mode on Windows 2003 
JISL Server?

Sorry about that... the Judoscript site comes and goes lately. (Maybe
permanently gone this time).

To run in persistent mode, simply launch an instance of SNF from the
command line with the word persistent in place of the file to scan.

licenseid.exe authentication persistent

The persistent instance will be recognized by all of the other
instances (those are launched by your email server usually - one per
message).

When a persistent instance is present it will keep the rulebase loaded
in memory and the other instances will coordinate with it to get their
messages scanned. This eliminates the work of reloading the rulebase
and can help to optimize the timing of the message scans to improve
throughput.

If the persistent instance fails or is stopped for any reason then the
SNF software returns to it's native peer-server mode.

There are a number of utilities out there (some free) that allow you
to run an executable as a service. RunExeSvc is the one I used. Many
have recommended FireDaemon:

http://www.firedaemon.com/

There is also a windows toolkit that will let you run programs as
services - it requires some hacking in the registry as I recall.

I can't provide specifics for these approaches at this time, but I
believe the windows toolkit method was described well in the sniffer@
list archives, and Firedaemon will have it's own process that is
likely to be simpler.

Hope this helps,

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Re[4]: [sniffer] When to go persistent

2006-02-23 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, February 23, 2006, 12:59:24 PM, Goran wrote:

GJ Pete,

 To run in persistent mode, simply launch an instance of SNF from the
 command line with the word persistent in place of the file to scan.
 
 licenseid.exe authentication persistent
 

GJ I am calling Sniffer from Declude. Could I just later my statement in my
GJ config file to include persistent? That way the first time it is called
GJ that instance will go persistent and all the rest will end up talking to
GJ it?

No. That will not work. You need the persistent instance to run and
stay running while the other instances (called from Declude) come and
go.

GJ Regardless of how the persistent instance is started should I have the
GJ persistent keyword on the line that is called from Declude?

You should not have any instance in Declude defined with the
persistent command line option. Don't do this.

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Re: [sniffer] What is this file

2006-02-23 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, February 23, 2006, 1:07:07 PM, Goran wrote:

GJ Pete,

GJ I have seen a couple of times that the file

GJ C:\External\Sniffer\my license-20060221071316x386D4931-2352.SVR

GJ Is open and cannot be backed up.

GJ What is this file? I assume that I do not need to be worried since the
GJ file disappears.

When in peer-server mode, if an instance comes to life and finds it is
the only instance around it will set itself up as a server just in
case another instance comes along and needs help.

When an instance of SNF is acting as a server it will announce that by
creating a .SVR file in the working directory.

In peer-server mode, a server-peer will handle a few jobs, then it's
own, and then it will go away so it can return it's result. While it
is active it will leave it's .SVR file out to advertise to the
peer-clients that it is available to process messages.

In persistent mode, the server-peer never has a message of it's own to
process and so it never goes away (almost). As a result, all
peer-clients always hand off their messages to the persistent
peer-server. Since the persistent peer-server never goes away the .SVR
file will also not go away.

These files are all generally transient. (.QUE, .FIN, .ABT, .XXX,
etc...) This causes some trouble with backup software.

It's usually best to skip backing up the sniffer working directory
except for the .exe, .snf, and any script files you have. It is
usually best to keep a current / recent copy of those files in a
separate directory that can be backed up and to otherwise treat the
SNF working directory as you would a temp directory. (skip it)

Hope this helps,

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Re: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction?

2006-02-21 Thread Pete McNeil
I'm a little behind. I'm going to do false positives in the next 10
minutes. I only have 20 to do it should go fast. Sorry for the delay.

Thanks,

_M

On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 9:40:07 AM, Andy wrote:

AS Hi,

AS I filed this false positive report a day ago and never heard back.

AS Just trying to see if my emails are blocked again.

AS Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
AS Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


AS -Original Message-
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AS Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:41 AM
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Re[2]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction?

2006-02-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 10:16:11 AM, Andy wrote:

AS Sorry - didn't mean to be pushy. I just thought that false positives are
AS worse than missed spam, so I had assumed that they would always be at the
AS top of the queue.

It is a very tough balancing act. Don't feel bad at all - you're not
being pushy. The current goal is to respond in less than 24 hours and
if possible to review twice per day. Yesterday a number of urgent
tasks toppled that schedule. The first review happened (at around
0600) but there were no FPs at that time. I'm working to increase the
review cycle... there are just a lot of things going on right now.

Just so everyone knows, we do hear - loud and clear - that responding
to FPs is important, and we have been much better about it over the
recent past. I expect that service aspect to improve moving forward
along with other things.

AS I can wait (PS - would have calmed my nerves, if there had been some
AS automatic ticket number response that reassured me that my email was
AS received. The web site makes it sound as if there's a million reasons why a
AS false positive might not be accepted - so an automatic confirmation might be
AS a good self-service tool.

That's a good point. I'll look at that possibility when I rewrite the
false processing bot. We're getting a lot of spam lately at our false@
address and I would want to make sure that there was no outscatter.

I can tell the bot to only respond to validated senders, but then
there is the issue of email reliability in the response... what if you
don't get the response I mean. ... There are still folks that
occasionally (some frequently) send false reports from unauthorized
addresses --- those would not get a response... I'm overthinking this
now %^b

When I get to the false processing bot I will add a response
mechanism.

Thanks!

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Re[4]: [sniffer] False Positive - no reaction?

2006-02-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, 11:16:43 AM, Andy wrote:

snip/

AS The only other suggestion I have is to create a 24 hour 'queue' display on
AS the web site. All you need to show is a column of the sender domain names of
AS the email (not the entire sender email address).  If I submit a false
AS positive I can confirm that it made it into your queue by checking the web
AS page.  This way, you don't need to send automated emails.

Agreed. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll add that to the plan for
upgrading the false processing engine.

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Re: [sniffer] [Fwd: Diann Helms]

2006-02-15 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 8:53:27 AM, Heimir wrote:

HE Anyway to stop this spam.
HE We are getting hundreds of them.
HE I have personally gotten 23.

It's a challenging one... there is almost no data, and the geocities
link is constantly different.

I've written another abstract to cover this structure.

I'll continued to do that as new structures arise, provided I can do
so without creating false positives.

If you wish, it is possible to create a local black rule for any
geocities link. On many ISP systems this would cause false positives,
but on more private systems it may be a reasonable solution.

If you want such a black rule added to your rulebase please send a
request off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

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Re[2]: [sniffer] [Fwd: Diann Helms]

2006-02-15 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 11:02:11 AM, Bonno wrote:

BB Hi Pete,

BB []
 If you wish, it is possible to create a local black rule for any
 geocities link. On many ISP systems this would cause false positives,
 but on more private systems it may be a reasonable solution.


BB I think I could use such a black rulw without getting to may FPs, but in
BB which catagoeries would that rule then go? I score the several Sniffer
BB results differently in my Declude setup. A hit on just Sniffer 60, 61 or 63
BB would put it several points below my hold weight. An extra hit would be
BB needed to get it held.

Normally when we make custom black rules we code them to a special
rule group (generally with a group symbol 5 by convention). Since 5 is
a lower number than all other rule groups (except for white rules = 0)
any message matching a local black rule will be distinct.

Hope this helps,

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