SeaMonkey Upgrade and Add-On problems

2009-07-06 Thread Charlene

I have several issues:

1. I'm having a problem with at least one add-on I added the other day. 
 Symptoms:


	a) As part of the status bar I have a inch long mostly blank space that 
has a red ^ on the left halfway down.
	b) Once I open the email window, and one other window, I cannot open up 
the view source.  SeaMonkey does know that I tried to open it.  When I 
close all viewable SeaMonkey windows and try to exit I can't because it 
thinks there's a window open.


2. I don't know if this is another add-on issue or not becuase it's been 
around for at least two upgrades of SeaMonkey:


	The Back and Forward buttons do nothing in the first tab (or main 
window if no tabs are open).  In fact it displays the URL for what ever 
tab I was in last.


3. There used to be an add-on manager like FF has.  I couldn't find it.

4. I tried to uninstall SeaMonkey and re-install it to get rid of ALL 
personal settings (to solve the add-on problem - #1).  I even did the 
re-install in a different folder.  When I rebooted and re-installed, all 
my email settings were in effect.  I couldn't find any file which 
SeaMonkey could be using that wasn't removed in the uninstall.


The first issue is my major issue.

Charlene
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Re: SeaMonkey Upgrade and Add-On problems

2009-07-06 Thread Martin Feitag

Charlene schrieb:

I have several issues:

1. I'm having a problem with at least one add-on I added the other day.
Symptoms:

a) As part of the status bar I have a inch long mostly blank space that
has a red ^ on the left halfway down.
b) Once I open the email window, and one other window, I cannot open up
the view source. SeaMonkey does know that I tried to open it. When I
close all viewable SeaMonkey windows and try to exit I can't because it
thinks there's a window open.


This is probably due to the failed add-on.
I suggest you to get Extension Manager (requires Extension Uninstaller 
afaik) from this site: http://mozmonkey.com/
Install it, close Seamonkey (kill it with the taskmanager if necessary) 
and restart SM.
After that there should be an entry in Seamonkey's Tools menu named 
Extension Manager which offers you to manage/uninstall Extensions.

Uninstall the suspicious one(s) which you think has caused the error.



3. There used to be an add-on manager like FF has. I couldn't find it.


See above, it needs to be installed. In Seamonkey 2.0 it will be 
available by default.




4. I tried to uninstall SeaMonkey and re-install it to get rid of ALL
personal settings (to solve the add-on problem - #1). I even did the
re-install in a different folder. When I rebooted and re-installed, all
my email settings were in effect. I couldn't find any file which
SeaMonkey could be using that wasn't removed in the uninstall.


The Seamonkey program is separate from your profile (which stores all 
your data, inlcuding mail etc.). If you want to get rid of our settings, 
you need to use a new profile, not a new program installation.
You can do so by deleting your old one or just by creating an additional 
profile for now if you want to copy some things later on (e.g. mails)
To create an additional profile, start the Seamonkey ProfileManager 
either by Seamonkey's startmenu entry or call it directly from the 
Tools menu in Seamonkey named Switch Profile or similar.
I think the needed steps are pretty straight forward, otherwise feel 
free to ask.
After creating a new profile Seamonkey will ask which profile to use on 
each start. Select your new one an start.


After you have verified that everything runs fine you maybe want to 
recreate your email-ccounts etc. After that you can copy your inbox and 
sent file etc. from the old profile to the new profile (if you wish to 
keep the old stuff).
If you don't care about any old settings feel free to delete the old 
profile.


More information about the profile (e.g. where it is located) can be 
found here: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#locations


regards

Martin
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where are passwords saved?

2009-07-06 Thread horst39
Suddenly I wasn't able to send mail as the SMTP server wanted password 
and user ID (SM 1.1.16)

The values I inserted had not been recognized.
Therefore I copied from my backup the *.s and *.w files which are said 
to contain the passwords, but it didn't work.

So I copied all files (without subfolders) and now it worked.
Can somebody please tell me which files may contain passwords and user 
ID's in order to copy only the relevant files if this problems should 
happen again?

Thanks
horst
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Quality Assurance plans for the upcoming releases leading to Thunderbird 3.0 final

2009-07-06 Thread Ludovic Hirlimann
So I should have probably talked about this a bit earlier - but as dates 
and plan changed quite a bit in the last month it's good that I did not.


The QA plan for the upcoming betas and RC is for now as follow :

Litmus Full Functionnal testing (FFT) for thunderbird 3.0b3

Litmus Basic  Functionnal testing for 3.0b4
Litmus Migration from 2.x to 3.x for 3.0b4

Litmus FFT for RCs
Litmus Migration from 2.x to 3.x for Rcs


Dates for all of these testing efforts will be announced here and on 
qualiry.mozilla.org.


As you will see if you participate to the Litmus testing[1] effort that 
we are now breaking down tests platforms per os and platform. This let's 
us better see what has been tested and where.


For those of you who are interested in testing Thunderbird, litmus is a 
really easy tool to learn. You need an account (that's 10 minutes of 
your time tops), you'll need a copy of Thunderbird (which copy and 
versions will be announced on these newsgroups/mailing lists, they will 
be announced on http://quality.mozilla.org/events and on the 
thunderbird-testers mailing list.) and then time to spend reading how to 
test , and enter the results of your testing.


On top of these lengthy events we will organize at least one test days - 
these will be announced on the thunderbird-testers[2] mailing list and 
probably here too.



[1] http://quality.mozilla.org/documents-home/test-docs/litmus-tutorial
[2] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers

Ludovic
--
Ludovic Hirlimann MozillaMessaging QA lead
http://www.spreadthunderbird.com/aff/79/2
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Re: where are passwords saved?

2009-07-06 Thread Martin Feitag

horst39 schrieb:

Suddenly I wasn't able to send mail as the SMTP server wanted password
and user ID (SM 1.1.16)
The values I inserted had not been recognized.
Therefore I copied from my backup the *.s and *.w files which are said
to contain the passwords, but it didn't work.
So I copied all files (without subfolders) and now it worked.
Can somebody please tell me which files may contain passwords and user
ID's in order to copy only the relevant files if this problems should
happen again?
Thanks
horst


You were right about the *. file but I guess you forgot to edit the 
prefs.js file accordingly.



Importing a Password File

Would you rather just bring your old profile's password file into a new 
profile? Too many passwords to do one by one? Fear not, you can import 
your old passwordfile into the new profile with just a few simple steps.


   1. Locate your profile directory, just like above.
   2. Again, find the [random string].s file, like in Step 2 above. 
Write down the filename exactly as it appears.

   3. Copy that file to your new profile's directory.
   4. While Mozilla is not running (including Quick Launch), open the 
prefs.js file in your new profile directory in any text editor.
   5. Find the following string in the file using your text editor's 
Search function:

  * SignonFileName
  You should have found a line that looks like the following:
  * user_pref(signon.SignonFileName, 91453348.s);
   6. Change the number in that line to match the number of the 
filename you wrote down from Step 2.

   7. Save your changes, and exit. You're done.

Now Mozilla will have all your old passwords stored again.

taken from: http://burntelectrons.org/moz/moz-passwords.html

regards
Martin
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SM2 expands threads, bug or feature?

2009-07-06 Thread Nils Bermann

Hello,

since a few nightlies now, SeaMonkey 2 always expands threads with new  
messages when retrieving them (mails as well as news). I find that very  
disturbing.

Is this a bug or a feature? If the latter, can I deactivate it?

Nils
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Removing Add-On

2009-07-06 Thread Brian Mailman
I downloaded the add-on mentioned recently that places an X on each tab 
in order to close it with one click.  I find that unlike IE the X is too 
large and I keep closing a tab accidentally when I want to access it 
instead.


I thought when I upgraded to SM 1.1.17 it would disappear (I've seen the 
discussions about reinstalling add-ons,) but it didn't.  How can I 
remove it?


Alternately since I like the idea of the function, how can I reduce the 
size of the X?


B/
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Re: SeaMonkey Upgrade and Add-On problems

2009-07-06 Thread Cecil Bankston

Charlene wrote:

I have several issues:

1. I'm having a problem with at least one add-on I added the other day. 
 Symptoms:


a) As part of the status bar I have a inch long mostly blank space 
that has a red ^ on the left halfway down.


That problem occurred for me with NoScript.  Download the latest 
NoScript version (may still be listed as beta or experimental) and 
install it or simply install the xpi directly from the NoScript 
downloads page.  That should correct the problem.

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Re: SM2 expands threads, bug or feature?

2009-07-06 Thread Hartmut Figge
Nils Bermann:

since a few nightlies now, SeaMonkey 2 always expands threads with new  
messages when retrieving them (mails as well as news).

Yes. The regression window is

h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 0906160015-0906170030
2009-06-15 15:15:00 PDT
2009-06-16 15:30:00 PDT

I find that very disturbing.

Not only you. *g*

Is this a bug or a feature?

For me it is a bug. Have you already looked into bugzilla?

Hartmut
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Re: Removing Add-On

2009-07-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/6/2009 11:31 AM, Brian Mailman wrote:
 I downloaded the add-on mentioned recently that places an X on each tab 
 in order to close it with one click.  I find that unlike IE the X is too 
 large and I keep closing a tab accidentally when I want to access it 
 instead.
 
 I thought when I upgraded to SM 1.1.17 it would disappear (I've seen the 
 discussions about reinstalling add-ons,) but it didn't.  How can I 
 remove it?
 
 Alternately since I like the idea of the function, how can I reduce the 
 size of the X?
 
 B/

I use the Mnenhy extension to remove other extensions.  See
http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: SM2 expands threads, bug or feature?

2009-07-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/6/2009 11:14 AM, Nils Bermann wrote:
 Hello,
 
 since a few nightlies now, SeaMonkey 2 always expands threads with new  
 messages when retrieving them (mails as well as news). I find that very  
 disturbing.
 Is this a bug or a feature? If the latter, can I deactivate it?
 
 Nils

This sounds like Thunderbird bug #232562.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232562, which was closed
as Works for me.  If so, I would be very concerned that (1) the bug
was improperly closed, (2) development of the newer version of
Thunderbird (being incorporated into SeaMonkey 2) has concentrated on
new bells and whistles without fixing actual discrepancies, and (3) old
bugs are being introduced into a new version of SeaMonkey.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: SM2 expands threads, bug or feature?

2009-07-06 Thread Nils Bermann

On 2009-07-06 20:54, Hartmut Figge wrote:


Yes. The regression window is

h...@e675 ~ $ fenster 0906160015-0906170030
2009-06-15 15:15:00 PDT
2009-06-16 15:30:00 PDT


Uh, that long? I thought my 06-18 nightly didn't show that. Anyway, by  
looking for changes in that window, I came across bug 494811. So looks  
like it's supposed to be a feature. :-(



Is this a bug or a feature?


For me it is a bug. Have you already looked into bugzilla?


Yes, but didn't find anything. But from experience I know I'm not good in  
thinking up search terms.


Nils
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Re: Can Mail and Bookmaks be Synchronized on 2 PCs??

2009-07-06 Thread Ray_Net

Willard wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:

Willard schrieb:

Martin Feitag wrote:

Martin Feitag schrieb:

Willard schrieb:

Win2Kpro on both PCs..
How can the Mail and Bookmarks be easily synchronized on both PCs, so
that each will have all of the same early and late messages when they
are connected together occasionally??

Use any synchronisation software of your choice or write a simple
batch-file which copies bookmarks.html and the mailbox-files from one
profile to the corresponding profile directory of the other PC.

For profile information have a look here:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/
Especially that one:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/

If there are still questions left after reading that feel free to ask.
regards

Martin

sry the second link was meant to be:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring

I still can't find how to merge or sync the individual mail messages
from one mail folder to another..
Sync programs will merge complete mail files of messages but not the
individual mail messages from one mail file to another..
For example, PC1 has 5 mail messages dated 7/1 while PC2 has 5 mail
messages dated 7/2; how do I sync so both PCs have 10 mail messages
dated 7/1  7/2 ??


Uhoh, that will be more tricky.
The copying the profile-approach assumes that both machines are not 
running at the same time. It assumes you copy your profile after 
finishing you work on one PC to another one and vice versa.


Real synching is not possible that easy. I have to say usually IMAP or 
at least POP3 with the option leave messages on the server until 
deleted is being used (on at least one PC) and not all messages being 
fetched and deleted from the server as this causes a lot more trouble. 
You might consider changing that or switching to IMAP if possible.


If your problem is the getting all mails on one machine just once to 
get started, it's probably the easiest way to send them to yourself 
and filter them (if it's not many) or copy the mailbox-files (inbox 
etc.), renaming them and throwing them into the profile folder of the 
other PC. That should integrate the new folder. This will cause 
duplicates (if existing) of course in different folders, but it's the 
fastest approach. You can then leave them there or move them to 
another folder (e.g. inbox, sent, etc.) from within Semonkey very easily.
After that, perform the steps to leave messages on the server on at 
least one machine mentioned above or switch to IMAP...

regards

Martin

Thanks, Martin

I think that leaving messages on the server and auto download on both 
computers will suffice..


Willard :)


Good Idea  this is what i do, with the use of the free program 
called PopTray - who can delete mails on the server.

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Re: Gmail in Standard view

2009-07-06 Thread Martin Feitag

David Weintraub schrieb:

Using Seamonkey 1.1.17 and can not open Gmail in standard view only
basic view. Works in Firefox 3.x.xx


Is that the link at the top right corner of the page between the 
settings and help? If yes, then I can switch between both views in 
SM1.1.17 without problems.

Although it feels slower than in Seamonkey 2.0alpha.
Maybe you want to try again in a (secondary) new profile...
regards

Martin

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Re: Removing Add-On

2009-07-06 Thread Martin Feitag

Brian Mailman schrieb:

I downloaded the add-on mentioned recently that places an X on each tab
in order to close it with one click. I find that unlike IE the X is too
large and I keep closing a tab accidentally when I want to access it
instead.

I thought when I upgraded to SM 1.1.17 it would disappear (I've seen the
discussions about reinstalling add-ons,) but it didn't. How can I remove
it?


I described how to remove Extensons in 1.1.x already today to Charlene: 
h2t3kp$2m...@news.albasani.net

(just one thread below yours ;-) )

btw: you can close tabs easily with a middle-mouse-click, too.
regards

Martin
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Re: Quality Assurance plans for the upcoming releases leading to Thunderbird 3.0 final

2009-07-06 Thread NoOp
On 07/06/2009 09:07 AM, Ludovic Hirlimann wrote:
 So I should have probably talked about this a bit earlier - but as dates 
 and plan changed quite a bit in the last month it's good that I did not.
 
 The QA plan for the upcoming betas and RC is for now as follow :
 
   Litmus Full Functionnal testing (FFT) for thunderbird 3.0b3
 
   Litmus Basic  Functionnal testing for 3.0b4
   Litmus Migration from 2.x to 3.x for 3.0b4
 
   Litmus FFT for RCs
   Litmus Migration from 2.x to 3.x for Rcs
 
 
 Dates for all of these testing efforts will be announced here and on 
 qualiry.mozilla.org.
 
 As you will see if you participate to the Litmus testing[1] effort that 
 we are now breaking down tests platforms per os and platform. This let's 
 us better see what has been tested and where.
 
 For those of you who are interested in testing Thunderbird, litmus is a 
 really easy tool to learn. You need an account (that's 10 minutes of 
 your time tops), you'll need a copy of Thunderbird (which copy and 
 versions will be announced on these newsgroups/mailing lists, they will 
 be announced on http://quality.mozilla.org/events and on the 
 thunderbird-testers mailing list.) and then time to spend reading how to 
 test , and enter the results of your testing.
 
 On top of these lengthy events we will organize at least one test days - 
 these will be announced on the thunderbird-testers[2] mailing list and 
 probably here too.
 
 
 [1] http://quality.mozilla.org/documents-home/test-docs/litmus-tutorial
 [2] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers
 
 Ludovic

For those that do litmus testing (smoke tests), I very much recommend
doing it from a fresh test profile rather than the exisiting user
profile. Using an existing profile (both for Thunderbird and SeaMonkey)
that has been customized for user use w/add-ons and extensions can skew
and affect the results.


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