Re: SM 2.0.1 email issues
Javier schrieb: Javier wrote: I was on SM 1.7 and it was working fine. I upgraded to SM2.0.1. First I was not able to send. Changing the auth setting the SM 2.0.1 changed fixed that. Then I ran into the address book issue. Where deleting the OA address book that SM 2.0.1 creates, fixes the issue. There is a bug about that. Then about day 3 of using it SM stopped receiveing emails. It keep complaining that it could not connect. I have a local imap server too that I use and trying to connect to that it would say the connection was refused. Yet there was no connection attempt. I tested the connection to my ISP with telnet sessions to both smtp port and pop port. There was not problem with the connection. I checked my router and there was no issue there. I uninstalled and reinstalled 2.0.1. Still the same issue. I downloaded 1.8. I uninstalled SM 2.0.1 and installed SM 1.8. Now my email is working again like it should. What did they break in SM 2.0.1? Javier Am I the only one who has seen this? seems so ;-) regars Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM v.2.01 - Multiple Profile Installation Question
Smiles schrieb: I have tried 4 times to move to SM v.2.01 If I leave my profile as is it always chooses the wrong profile to move and set up as default. So I remove the other 3 giving it only one option this is my primary account, having 9 accounts in default profile location and it has three accounts with files on my G drive as long term storage going back 11 years. SM v.2.01 wants to move all that data to its default mail profile on C. Any idea on how to stop that? Next how can I add the other profiles if I move them back to old profile they always get added to my default profile when imported. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.1/#issues Only one profile from SeaMonkey 1.x is migrated to SeaMonkey 2.0.1 automatically (Bug 383006) Workaround: Manually start migration as described in the knowledge base. Just follow th link there to the knowledge base. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM2 program default directory
Could someone tell us in what directory SM2 has been installed. Question is for windows os, default directory, not the profile. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
iCab and DOCTYPE [was Restore Form manger...(no content)]
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:21:54 -05001, Phillip Jones wrote: For example here is error report for Mozilla.org opening (home) page: http://www.phillipmjones.net/MozillaErrors.text http://www.mozilla.org/ HTML Error (0, 0): The Doctype definition of the document is unknown. It couldn't find Doctype declaration You are mistaken. It found a doctype. It just didn't understand what it meant. These are the first two lines in the source code: !DOCTYPE html html xml:lang=en-US lang=en-US dir=ltrhead This doctype is the new HTML5 doctype. All modern browsers should have no problems with this (well apparently except iCab). so it based the check on XML 1.0 Transitional. Setting for Strict, Transitional, or Frameset seems to make no difference check for variants of HTML there are hundreds of errors, so XML or XHTML seems to be correct setting. This is wrong. Please file a bug against iCab. If it doesn't understand the doctype or can't find one it should fall back to quirks mode tagsoup. Defaulting to XML or XHTML is clearly a bug. I've managed to correct pages on my website so all of mine I hope are in the green. I've converted all to at least XHTML 1.0 Transitional. Big mistake. You should have converted to HTML5 which is the official successor to all the previous HTML as well as current XHTML standards (there won't be a XHTML 2.0). Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 program default directory
OBones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Could someone tell us in what directory SM2 has been installed. Question is for windows os, default directory, not the profile. C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2 Or just plain \SeaMonkey as it is for me on MS Vista ;) -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:32:47 -0500, David Wilkinson wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Doesn't work of Mac OSX. You mean HTML Validator extension doesn't work on Mac OSX? I wouldn't know about that. It works on Windows, but you have to hack the version numbers for SM2. HTML Validator is available for SeaMonkey 2.0a3 in Mac OsX Intel and Mac OsX PPC versions. http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/download.html Just install the nightly tester tools extension, disable compatibility checking and it should just work. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
V.2.0.1 Problems when composing emails
Intermittently SeaMonkey locks up when starting to compose an email. It hangs when the first letter of the addressee is entered. It seems to happen when there is an outstanding email to be read. Though I am not certain of this and will need to make a more careful observation if it happens again. -- Please reply to group,emails to designated address are never read. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: V.2.0.1 Problems when composing emails
Broadback wrote: Intermittently SeaMonkey locks up when starting to compose an email. It hangs when the first letter of the addressee is entered. It seems to happen when there is an outstanding email to be read. Though I am not certain of this and will need to make a more careful observation if it happens again. Have a look at my message on the fourth of January... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: V.2.0.1 Problems when composing emails
OBones wrote: Broadback wrote: Intermittently SeaMonkey locks up when starting to compose an email. It hangs when the first letter of the addressee is entered. It seems to happen when there is an outstanding email to be read. Though I am not certain of this and will need to make a more careful observation if it happens again. Have a look at my message on the fourth of January... Sorry, the trouble is that there are so many emails here now that I don't feel inclined to read them all, I just scan the heading. Not even that well enough it seems! -- Please reply to group,emails to designated address are never read. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)
Rufus schrieb: My initial point/suggestion was to leverage capability built into the individual OS...thus allowing you to drop some code altogether. By introducing at least three code paths for the three major platforms, and probably some more for others like Solaris, AIX, OS/2 and whatever else builds can be made for. But I also stated that that suggestion would be moot if all three primary OSs didn't provide the same function/service across the board. It's surely not the same, but different implementations that do similar but in details different things and usually are completely different to interface with. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)
chicagofan schrieb: A blank message serves no purpose but to annoy other people who come to this support forum looking for help with their problems. Right, and that's why my reply to the OP is just as useless. no content probably even deserves no reply at all. :P Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:36:32 -0500, jim j...@earthlink.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:03:31 -0800, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: snip but having the ability to quickly change path/user enmass in prefs.js is what enables me to easily transport an entire .mozilla folder to another machine have it working in a matter of minutes. Machine 1: WIn XP SP2 Seamonkey 2.01 Machine 2: WIn XP SP2 Seamonkey 2.01 I am trying to make Machine 2 have the same bookmarks and bookmarks toolbar as Machine 1. The following 1,2,3 worked fine with FF: 1. close app. 2. Locate Machine 1's places.sqlite and copy to same directory on Machine 2. 3. Reopen app on Machine 2. It does not seem to work with Seamonkey, which *appears* to grab the last backup copy of places.sqlite on Machine 2 and use that. (that is, when replaced with machine 1's Seamonkey's places.sqlite. So my question is just which parameter(s) in prefs.js do you change? jim Basically, I am starting over so I am reposting the original message. So far, Sea Monkey 2.0.1 has defeated me in this. The idea is to clone 2.01 form machine 1 (aka M1)to Machine 2 (aka M2) and the particulars of my last failures follow: 1. Uninstalled SM 2.0.1 from M2. 2. Reinstalled SM 2.0;.1 on M2 without launching after install complete. Copied entire SM profile (about 34 subdirectories) from DS in M1 to M2) 3. Prepped prefs.js by doing mass change of M1 name (jim) to M2 name (PC1) (operation detail -- Qedit reported 11 changes made, EXCEPT I did not change 2 entries specifically for IRC in Prefs.js where jim is the user name and those CMD entries did not refer to DS location) 4. Replaced places.sqlite on m2 with m1 copy. 5. started SM2 on M2. 6. Result of intended operation -- failure PLUS. The PLUS was that not only did I have no bookmarks transferred *but* the personal toolbar was also locked *and* that the personal toolbar was now locked to drag drop items from the Navigation window. (The profile copy was successful since the Adblock icon now appeared on Personal toolbar -- and was operable -- of M2 browser and all subfolders, filters and mail were present and operable in M2 SM email client.) End initial attempt at elegant symphony. :-) (it should have worked) Enter Plan B: 1. Export bookmarks from M1 to file (bookmarks.html) on shared folder on M1. 2. Import bookmarks to M2 (using manage bookmarks) 3. For that session, there were 536 objects in bookmark manager and bookmarks did exist from toolbar call of bookmarks but not on Personal Toolbar. 4. I unset and reset bookmarks toolbar as personal toolbar. Result: Personal toolbar populated with proper bookmarks and folders. BUT When i closed and reopened SM on M2, all bookmarks had disappeared. (I did Plan A and Plan B complete operations several times) Any ideas? jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1, Ubuntu fonts
Il 07/01/10 02:56, Rufus ha scritto: Andrea Govoni wrote: Nevertheless, I have a problem with the text in the upper section of the page [1], where some symbols used for unrecognized characters are displayed (see [2]). However, I don't get those strange unrecognized character symbols on SM 1.1.18, even *without* the additional fonts installed, or in a fresh new SM2 profile. Any suggestion about what might cause this? [1] http://www.jyskordbog.dk/ordbog/ [2] http://idisk.mac.com/xfox/Public/SM2%20unrecognized%20characters.png I seem to recall reading something a bit ago about support for new OpenType fonts being problematic with OS X (forget which version - but being recent, I'd think SnoLep). Could this font stuff be OS related and not strictly SM related? Across the board?.. I doubt it, since I get the characters right with SM 1.1.18 and in a fresh new profile with SM 2.0.2. Maybe it has to do with some extension I installed in my main profile… I'll try to run SM in safe mode soon and report back. -- Andrea XFox Govoni AIM/iChat/ICQ: x...@mac.com Yahoo! ID: xfox82 Skype Name: draykan PGP KeyID: 0x212E69C1 Fingerprint: FBE1 CA7D 34BE 4A53 9639 5C36 B7A0 605F 212E 69C1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Full Screen - is it possible?
I keep a lot of photos on Imageshack.us I want to take screenshots of the 20 or so pages of thumbnail pics so I know where to look to find any particular photo w/o searching for it. The page by page view must be scrolled up by one row, so I cannot get the whole page on one screen - messes up a screenshot... Is there a way with SM 1.1 to make the browser show what is normally in the main window as Full Screen ? i.e. without all the tools bars and location bar, etc. - just the main screen ? Thanks. DoctorBill ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Address Not Found
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/6/2010 10:31 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: After installing SM2 this afternoon I keep getting the following error message for good few WEB sites, which with SM1 I have had no problems at all Address Not Found www.ebay.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.goggle.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.royalmail.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. netscape.aol.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. any help would be appreciated, Mike Are you sure it's SM causing the problem? Address Not Found means the name lookup is not working, and this is at the network level, well below SeaMonkey. You don't mention what operating system you're using, but most provide a utility for testing the name lookup on the network. nslookup is such a utility. If you're on Windows or a UNIX variant, you should be able to execute: nslookup www.ebay.com Note: The 'ping' utility won't necessarily work, as many sites block ICMP messages, which is what ping uses. Best Regards, He is using Windows, the User-agent string is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091206 SeaMonkey/2.0.1 Now a suggestion: try a second opinion, try using IE on one of the sites and if that does not work, you know this has nothing to do with Seamonkey. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM v.2.01 - Multiple User Installation Question
HenriK wrote: On a PC running XP-Home, I have tried to install SM v.2.01 so that it can be used by multiple users but I am not doing something right. I need to have both the PC and SM accessible by four users: myself, wife, and two grandchildren. In XP, I have a Welcome Screen account for each of the four of us although the two grandchildren's XP accounts are of the 'limited' type. As I understand SM, I need to have profiles for each of the four of us. The problem I am experiencing is that when I install SM, it installs on the HD but appears only in one XP account. This implies that I have to install SM four times and take up a lot of HD space with SM files that are identical. It seems to me that what I should end up with is four sets of profile files, one for each user, but only a single set of SM files. Accordingly, I am really confused on how to do the SM installation correctly. Advice, comments, or pointers to tutorials that cover this kind of a problem would be most appreciated. Thanks, in advance, for any assistance. As Martin Freitag indicates, the account you use has to have Administrator rights for it to be available to everyone. If you have things set up some other way then you should uninstall that first. You, your wife and the kids should each have their own Windows account, each will have access to one profile - their own. The other responders have said how to migrate profiles. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 program default directory
OBones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Could someone tell us in what directory SM2 has been installed. Question is for windows os, default directory, not the profile. C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2 In my WindowsXP with SM1.1.X it is: C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey I find strange that with SM2 it is not: C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey2 Arne says: Or just plain \SeaMonkey as it is for me on MS Vista is it C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey or C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey ? I also find strange that on XP it's on a certain place with a certain name and on Vista at another place(may be) with another name. Is someone of the development of SeaMonkey that can answer the question: Now i am with WindowsXP on SM1.1.x defaultly installed in C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey. What default location is for SM2 on the same machine ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: iCab and DOCTYPE [was Restore Form manger...(no content)]
Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 09:21:54 -05001, Phillip Jones wrote: For example here is error report for Mozilla.org opening (home) page: http://www.phillipmjones.net/MozillaErrors.text http://www.mozilla.org/ HTML Error (0, 0): The Doctype definition of the document is unknown. It couldn't find Doctype declaration You are mistaken. It found a doctype. It just didn't understand what it meant. These are the first two lines in the source code: !DOCTYPE html html xml:lang=en-US lang=en-US dir=ltrhead This doctype is the new HTML5 doctype. All modern browsers should have no problems with this (well apparently except iCab). so it based the check on XML 1.0 Transitional. Setting for Strict, Transitional, or Frameset seems to make no difference check for variants of HTML there are hundreds of errors, so XML or XHTML seems to be correct setting. This is wrong. Please file a bug against iCab. If it doesn't understand the doctype or can't find one it should fall back to quirks mode tagsoup. Defaulting to XML or XHTML is clearly a bug. I've managed to correct pages on my website so all of mine I hope are in the green. I've converted all to at least XHTML 1.0 Transitional. Big mistake. You should have converted to HTML5 which is the official successor to all the previous HTML as well as current XHTML standards (there won't be a XHTML 2.0). Phil It does show the page page its just the error checker they base on W3C shows these errors I have tried FF with the Validator Extension and it does come up clean And the error checker is adjustable you set what to check by if there is none listed. I'll send a note along with with the notation they need to add HTML compliance. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Full Screen - is it possible?
DoctorBill wrote: I keep a lot of photos on Imageshack.us I want to take screenshots of the 20 or so pages of thumbnail pics so I know where to look to find any particular photo w/o searching for it. The page by page view must be scrolled up by one row, so I cannot get the whole page on one screen - messes up a screenshot... Is there a way with SM 1.1 to make the browser show what is normally in the main window as Full Screen ? i.e. without all the tools bars and location bar, etc. - just the main screen ? Thanks. DoctorBill Sorry - found out how. Press F11 VIEW | FULL SCREEN F11 First time I ever needed it. -- Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it …and hell where they already have it. - Ronald Reagan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:28:47 -0800, Rufus n...@home.com wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused by some RAM weakness. I did that - no ram errors. However, when removing and reinstalling SM versions, some other of my USB connected components seemed to run slowly - and it was plugged in via an old expansion hub. My internet (ethernet) was plugged into that same expansion hub and I wondered if some other internet activities were being affected by a slow expansion hub. So I swapped USB connections to get my internet on a USB port right on the motherboard. Eureka - all my internet action now seemed more crisp! My current postulation is the BSODs were caused by timing problems between the USB handling and SM 2.0. Not illogical that the new SM 2.0 base code expects tighter signal timing. (I could try proving this using Firefox Thunderbird on the old USB setup but...) I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if so, about when might that change be expected? ...funny, I had a USB hub die on one of my Macs and also had a lot of issues until I figured out what the problem was, but I never really tied it to an app - it was just general problems. And I wouldn't figure that any problem would/could arise from a browsing suite unless your modem is networked via USB instead of wifi or Ethernet. Was/is that your case? No. I have ethernet/10baseT from my cable modem to a Belkin adapter which provides the USB for the computer (XP). -- JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Transfer mail from old account to new
Thanks, all good answers and offer me an easy way to deal with my problem. I will go with just leaving it be. So, how do I stop SM from opening the old account first when I open SM? Thanks, Ed MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 1/1/2010 17:21, OldTimer told the world: I'm running SM 2.0.1 on Win XP SP2. In the accounts panel on the left side of the SM main screen, I have 2 accounts with many folders: 1)an old account with an ISP I'm going to close (it's dial-up). and 2) a new account (DSL) with some similar and some different folders from the old account. As mail senders began using my new address, I set up new folders. I don't have all the same folders and I don't have all the folders that are in my old account and I have new ones that aren't in the old account. I want to merge/transfer? all my old mail messages to my new account, delete my old account and ensure that the address book is retained. Is there an quick way to do this? I discovered that I could drag mail messages from the old account to the new - but this would be tedious even if I could transfer whole folders (I'm haven't tried this yet). Is the old account a POP account? If so, you don't really have to do anything, you can keep the folder as they are right now -- just go to the account settings and disable all the check mail options instead of removing the account, so Seamonkey won't keep bothering you with error messages. If you really wish to move the message folders from one account to another, you might try this: 1. Close Seamonkey (very important) 2. Locate your profile folder: in XP, it's probably C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\[random string].default\ 3. You will find a mail subfolder and, within it, more subfolders named after your mail news accounts. 4. Just move the files you will find within to the new place you wish them to be, in the folder for your new DSL account. Some notes: - You don't really have to move the small files with .msf extension; Seamonkey will recreate them automatically the first time you open the folder. - File folders namedsomething.sbd hold the archives to the mail folders contained within mail foldersomething. For instance, if you have a subfolder forinbox namedoldstuff, then you will find: a file called inbox, a folder called inbox.sbd, and a file called oldstuff inside the folder inbox.sbd. - You can rename files. However, if they have a corresponding folder, be careful to rename both the same way. 5. Open Seamonkey: the folders will be found in their new places. If it's an IMAP account, though, you probably should create new folders -- either in the Local folders pseudo-account or in a phantom account -- and copy/move the messages there -- manually. It's a lot of a work, sure. But IMAP stores the messages in your ISP's computer, and Seamonkey keeps just a local cache to speed up access -- which may or may not be complete. The Seamonkey address book is global (not linked to individual accounts), so you don't have to do anything. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:39:20 -0600, Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote: On 06.01.2010 07:13, JohnW-Mpls wrote: --- Original Message --- In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused by some RAM weakness. I did that - no ram errors. However, when removing and reinstalling SM versions, some other of my USB connected components seemed to run slowly - and it was plugged in via an old expansion hub. My internet (ethernet) was plugged into that same expansion hub and I wondered if some other internet activities were being affected by a slow expansion hub. So I swapped USB connections to get my internet on a USB port right on the motherboard. Eureka - all my internet action now seemed more crisp! My current postulation is the BSODs were caused by timing problems between the USB handling and SM 2.0. Not illogical that the new SM 2.0 base code expects tighter signal timing. (I could try proving this using Firefox Thunderbird on the old USB setup but...) I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if so, about when might that change be expected? What is your OS, not listed in the header. Running XP-Pro SP3 here and have not experienced any issues that you are having with USB - SM2 and so on. I also run remote desktop quite often with no problems. USB connections - 12 devices. I'm using XP with SP3. My PC has 8 USB ports on the montherboard. I think my problem was an old USB expansion hub. I got a new 4 port expansion hub ($4.95) and all hubs at the store were advertised to handle 480 Mbps. That speed may be only marketing hype but I cannot help but think that my old hub may well be slower. -- JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:35:40 +0100, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: JohnW-Mpls schrieb: I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if so, about when might that change be expected? Could you define the actual problem you're having and what's not decent in SM2 for that matter? Robert Kaiser Be happy to - but that will take a few minutes to properly describe. I'll post that when I get back from shopping. -- JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.1 Footprint
Philip Chee wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:43:19 -0800, David E. Ross wrote: And as I indicated before, the issue is not merely backups. The size of just SeaMonkey 2.0.1 seems to slow the changing of profiles. Nothing to do with the size of the profile. The underlying gecko toolkit we are now based on doesn't actually support dynamic switching of profiles the way XPFE/SeaMonkey 1.x did. What we now do is to fake it by doing a silent restart into the selected profile. So what you are actually seeing is a very fast restart rather than a very slow profile switch. From the user's POV we're seeing a very long delay vs. a short delay. Not complaining, but your answer sounds a lot like we're doing it now in a much less efficient way, but look how fast we do it. Like recoding a bubble sort to use multiple threads (I knew someone who did that). -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. Are you saying that everything is now working? The Validator continued to work when NTT is disabled? The other extension that can enable outdated extensions is Mr Tech, you might see if that works better for you. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Losing embedded images in templates
I send out a newsletter, and compose in SM, then mail to myself, lightly edit the headers, and send to many people. In order to make it look right I make a draft, save it, and then mail to myself. The newsletter include embedded images. When I am ready to make any needed changes, I go to the drafts folder, use edit as new and prepare to edit. However, it looks as if the embedded images are lost, I keep getting pop-ups asking if I have access to the image. Is this a bug, or is there some undocumented config not to lose all the images, or ??? The minimum image count is three, which is annoying, many letters have 8-10 others, and that's a huge pain to relink. The images must be attached, many people get them at work where they can get mail but not go to a non-business web site to pick up images. And that makes it much easier to save, since I don't have to worry about links going out of business in one way or another. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.1 Footprint
Bill Davidsen schrieb: Not complaining, but your answer sounds a lot like we're doing it now in a much less efficient way, but look how fast we do it. Well, then it sounds wrong. What he probably wanted to say is that the redesigned profile handling we inherited from the newer Mozilla platform would not have supported profile switching at all, and to even get it in SeaMonkey 2 at all we needed to emulate it in a way that actually restarts the whole application, even if that restart might be faster than a normal application start. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bizarre behavior in 2.0.1 mailnews
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: When I am reading mail/news in 1.1.18, the header pane scroll indicator can be used to move the view up or down. If I middle click in the scroll region the indicator and display move to that spot. Useful so I can move around. In 2.0.1 the same action opens a tab instead of scrolling. Note: no I am *not* clicking on the article header by accident, that's a useful behavior. The only way to get the previous behavior is to shift-click, which requires use of both hands, more time, etc.I can't find any benefit at all from this behavior and regard it as a regression from 1.1.xx interface. I do have middleclick opens in new tab, that's a browser thing, and should not apply to the scrollbar! Sounds like one for the OS-build Bill. Middle-click to header-scroll-position works fine in SM-2.*/Linux_64bit (and I also have set middle-click to-open new-tab in background left-click opening tab in foreground. Interesting, even most bizarre, since if I middle click in the scroll bar it opens the current article in a new tab, with no sidebar. Using the traditional three pane view. And the odd thing is that it works as expected in the browser, but the mail/news gives me a new tab rather than scroll. Shift-left still gives me scroll, but it's a two hand operation. Thanks for that Shift-left one Bill. I was wondering about that left-click mouse only scrolling the headers 6-lines towards the cursor-position (same as Preferences/Advanced Mouse wheel vertical-scrolling setting), but my Shift-left does also correctly-scroll the headers to the exact cursor-position in the scrollbar, just as my middle-click does. Middle-click in the Subject: opens the article in a new messaging-tab in the background, whereas left-click opens the article in a new-tab in the foreground-focus. Middle-click in the News-Feed articles Website-header-line: opens the article-web-page in the browser background-tab, with the left-click opening it in the browser foreground-tab-focus. I tested Preferences / Mail Newsgroups / Message Display / General / When opening messages, display them in: a new window (I normally-use the alternate An existing message window option), but even with a SeaMonkey-restart, middle-click still goes to the exact cursor position in the header-scrollbar (Not opening in either a new-tab or a new-window). So, the Messages-settings new-message-window does nothing for this function. I just checked tab in the about:config, and I have nothing that is even remotely connected to messaging tabs or mailnews tabs, ~~ in-fact, I have nothing concerning mailnews-tabs, much-less something that would interact-with/override the mouse-controls. In about:config, the only settings for tab in any shape or form, are specifically browser-settings (or extensions/functions within the browser, such as scrapbook and sidebar). - I'm guessing the difference is somehow OS-related within the new messaging-tabs, but just in case:- My settings for the Preferences / Browser / Tabbed Browsing (the only tab focus/function controls openly accessible) are-- Tab Display: all deselected except the selected Warn me when closing a window with multiple tabs. When opening a bookmark group: all deselected except the selected Add tabs. Open tabs instead of windows for: all deselected except the selected Middle-click, Ctrl+click or Ctrl+Enter on links in a Web page. Link open behaviour: all deselected except the selected A new tab in the current window. Links from other applications: all deselected except the selected A new tab in the current window. -- These are the only about:config tab highlighted bold preferences that are non-default (that I have changed via the Preferences panel) user_pref(browser.tabs.autoHide, false); user_pref(browser.tabs.loadGroup, 0); user_pref(browser.tabs.loadInBackground, true); user_pref(browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick, true); user_pref(browser.tabs.warnOnCloseOther, false); These are the only about:config mousewheel highlighted bold preferences that are non-default (that I have changed via the Preferences panel) mousewheel.horizscroll.withaltkey.sysnumlines;true mousewheel.withaltkey.action;0 mousewheel.withaltkey.sysnumlines;true mousewheel.withshiftkey.action;5 - These are the only about:config scrollbar preferences (All are still set to default):- dom.disable_window_open_feature.scrollbars;false layout.scrollbar.side;0 middlemouse.scrollbarPosition;true These are the only about:config cursor preferences (All are still set to default):- ui.use_activity_cursor;false These are the only about:config middlemouse preferences (All are still set to default):- middlemouse.contentLoadURL;true middlemouse.openNewWindow;true middlemouse.paste;true middlemouse.scrollbarPosition;true - I may be particularly dense, but I can't see
Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. Are you saying that everything is now working? The Validator continued to work when NTT is disabled? The other extension that can enable outdated extensions is Mr Tech, you might see if that works better for you. Lee Yes Validator is working after the force install. But with Nightly tester tool in interferes with PDF Browser Plugin and also Quote Colors. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. Are you saying that everything is now working? The Validator continued to work when NTT is disabled? The other extension that can enable outdated extensions is Mr Tech, you might see if that works better for you. Lee Yes Validator is working after the force install. But with Nightly tester tool in interferes with PDF Browser Plugin and also Quote Colors. I've installed MrTech and it didn't interfere with PDF Browser Plugin. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 program default directory
Ray_Net wrote: Could someone tell us in what directory SM2 has been installed. Question is for windows os, default directory, not the profile. On my 32-bit Windows 7 it is at C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Address Not Found
On 1/6/2010 10:31 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: After installing SM2 this afternoon I keep getting the following error message for good few WEB sites, which with SM1 I have had no problems at all Address Not Found www.ebay.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.goggle.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.royalmail.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. netscape.aol.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. any help would be appreciated, Mike I am seeing this problem rather often. After I dismiss the error popup, I retry the link. It usually works then. Instead of retrying, I can right-click on the link, select Copy link location, and paste the result into a DNS lookup tool I have. For links that I have visited recently but cannot be accessed by SeaMonkey, the tool always reports an IP address. I can then do a WhoIs on the IP address, which gives a result consistent with the Web page I was trying to reach. Thus, it seems to be a problem with how SeaMonkey interfaces with the Internet or interfaces with WindowsXP as an intermediary for interfacing with the Internet. That is, it's likely a Gecko or Toolkit problem. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. Are you saying that everything is now working? The Validator continued to work when NTT is disabled? The other extension that can enable outdated extensions is Mr Tech, you might see if that works better for you. Lee Yes Validator is working after the force install. But with Nightly tester tool in interferes with PDF Browser Plugin and also Quote Colors. I've installed MrTech and it didn't interfere with PDF Browser Plugin. And QuoteColors works as it should. Evidently Nightly Tester Tool has some serious defects. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:39:20 -0600, Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote: On 06.01.2010 07:13, JohnW-Mpls wrote: --- Original Message --- In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused by some RAM weakness. I did that - no ram errors. However, when removing and reinstalling SM versions, some other of my USB connected components seemed to run slowly - and it was plugged in via an old expansion hub. My internet (ethernet) was plugged into that same expansion hub and I wondered if some other internet activities were being affected by a slow expansion hub. So I swapped USB connections to get my internet on a USB port right on the motherboard. Eureka - all my internet action now seemed more crisp! My current postulation is the BSODs were caused by timing problems between the USB handling and SM 2.0. Not illogical that the new SM 2.0 base code expects tighter signal timing. (I could try proving this using Firefox Thunderbird on the old USB setup but...) I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if so, about when might that change be expected? What is your OS, not listed in the header. Running XP-Pro SP3 here and have not experienced any issues that you are having with USB - SM2 and so on. I also run remote desktop quite often with no problems. USB connections - 12 devices. I'm using XP with SP3. My PC has 8 USB ports on the montherboard. I think my problem was an old USB expansion hub. I got a new 4 port expansion hub ($4.95) and all hubs at the store were advertised to handle 480 Mbps. That speed may be only marketing hype but I cannot help but think that my old hub may well be slower. The extra overhead needed to convert ethernet from / to usb can be a big slow down. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMv2 feature request (rant)
Leonidas Jones wrote: Alan Cummings wrote: I've been using SM 2 for a couple of months now and have to say I've been very happy with it. (Ubuntu 8.04) But one thing that I do hate about it (and TB) is that I can't just select a message and press the space-bar to open and read it (message pane). I remember using a plug-in (not sure if it was SM 1.X or TB) to change shortcut keys, but I found that it didn't work to well when trying to assign a shortcut to the space-bar. I wonder if this is something that could be added, I mean you do use the space-bar to scroll through the message and go to the next unread, so this only makes sense to be able to open up a message.. or maybe it just makes sense to me. Thanks for all the work on SM 2 I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but Command + O will open a message in its own window on a Mac, I suspect that Control+ O would do the same on Linux. I can use the F8 key to open up a message in Message Pane, and yes I can use Ctrl-O to open it in its own window. But what I would like is to be able to use the Space-Bar to open the message, scroll down and goto the next unread message.. I guess I'm just too lazy to select the F8 key. ;) -- Alan. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMv2 feature request (rant)
Alan Cummings wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Alan Cummings wrote: I've been using SM 2 for a couple of months now and have to say I've been very happy with it. (Ubuntu 8.04) But one thing that I do hate about it (and TB) is that I can't just select a message and press the space-bar to open and read it (message pane). I remember using a plug-in (not sure if it was SM 1.X or TB) to change shortcut keys, but I found that it didn't work to well when trying to assign a shortcut to the space-bar. I wonder if this is something that could be added, I mean you do use the space-bar to scroll through the message and go to the next unread, so this only makes sense to be able to open up a message.. or maybe it just makes sense to me. Thanks for all the work on SM 2 I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but Command + O will open a message in its own window on a Mac, I suspect that Control+ O would do the same on Linux. I can use the F8 key to open up a message in Message Pane, and yes I can use Ctrl-O to open it in its own window. But what I would like is to be able to use the Space-Bar to open the message, scroll down and goto the next unread message.. I guess I'm just too lazy to select the F8 key. ;) On Mac version of SM either page down. or the n key (for new message) -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Address Not Found
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/6/2010 10:31 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: After installing SM2 this afternoon I keep getting the following error message for good few WEB sites, which with SM1 I have had no problems at all Address Not Found www.ebay.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.goggle.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.royalmail.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. netscape.aol.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. any help would be appreciated, Mike I am seeing this problem rather often. After I dismiss the error popup, I retry the link. It usually works then. Instead of retrying, I can right-click on the link, select Copy link location, and paste the result into a DNS lookup tool I have. For links that I have visited recently but cannot be accessed by SeaMonkey, the tool always reports an IP address. I can then do a WhoIs on the IP address, which gives a result consistent with the Web page I was trying to reach. Thus, it seems to be a problem with how SeaMonkey interfaces with the Internet or interfaces with WindowsXP as an intermediary for interfacing with the Internet. That is, it's likely a Gecko or Toolkit problem. Now *that* is a problem I know, but it is my ISP's DNS servers which are at fault. Not just that, the miserable barstewards then pass my input on to a redirect screen which comes up with 1001 possible sites I could be looking for while screwing up my original input line. Changing DNS servers, flushing cache and clicking on the bookmark again gets me the site. This is under Linux. Curiously enough, I think my (Win XP) laptop can access the site on the normal DNS servers. Maybe they fixed their DNS. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMv2 feature request (rant)
Phillip Jones schrieb: Alan Cummings wrote: I can use the F8 key to open up a message in Message Pane, and yes I can use Ctrl-O to open it in its own window. But what I would like is to be able to use the Space-Bar to open the message, scroll down and goto the next unread message.. I guess I'm just too lazy to select the F8 key. ;) On Mac version of SM either page down. or the n key (for new message) When I'm at the end of a message and hit spce again it takes me to the next unread message (just like the mentioned n-key, which of cours works at any time anywhre in the message) regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:15:20 -0800, Rufus n...@home.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: [JS in MailNews] As I am sure you know, but for those who do not, in about:config: javascript.allow.mailnews Set to true. That won't have any effect. JS in MailNews is gone for good: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Javascript.allow.mailnews The reason that the pref is still appearing in about:config is that the relevant patch applies against core code which follows different time schedules. The pref will be removed from about:config in SeaMonkey 2.1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248280 HTH Jens I guess this doesn't surprise me. Just one more example of the interface not being in step with the code...now I can't trust what I see in about:config or what it actually does either? Thanks. But hasn't that always been the case, stretching back into netscape? I believe that there are some vestigial files as well... jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Unable to import seamonkey 1.x to Seamonkey 2.0
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:24:31 +0100, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: John wrote: very poor choice--a well designed program would not require that kind of work. Fully agreed, and as a volunteer project we like any help we can get to actually work on improving that design. That's a good idea,... but what programming knowledge is required to help ? (if we don't have it , should we learn it ? (i have knowledge of cobol, fortran, rpg, Linc-4GL, VisualBasic4.0, DMSII, UPL SDL, Mainframes-Harware, MCPII ... would this help ?) Hi Ray, Almost twenty years ago i got a 386. I was experienced on DOS-VSE, but the IBM PC DOS I was suddenly exposed to was much different -- closer to VM's Conversational Monitor System. What I did find was that a file was still a file -- even if it was ASCII instead of EBCDICand through it all, 4th generation languages were much the same... jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 program default directory
Ray_Net wrote: OBones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Could someone tell us in what directory SM2 has been installed. Question is for windows os, default directory, not the profile. C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2 In my WindowsXP with SM1.1.X it is: C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey I find strange that with SM2 it is not: C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey2 Arne says: Or just plain \SeaMonkey as it is for me on MS Vista is it C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey or C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey ? It is C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey Install of SM2 do not overwrite anything from SM1 since the mozilla.org directory is not used. I could use both until I uninstalled SM1 (from the Control panel) and deleted manually everything in the SM1 Profile directory. The new default location for SM made a big positive benefit for me. Services on the web that did not worked with SM1 works now. For example, I could not use my online bank with SM1 since it was impossible to log in to my account. With SM2 it works perfectly without my need to do any preparations at all. -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV.
Danny Kile wrote: When opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV. I receive the following error. There is a problem with the URL or file you are trying to open or play. If you are trying to open an URL, the URL may not be valid. If you are trying to play a file, the file type is not recognized by Windows Media Player, but the Player may still be able to play the file. However, you should only play files from a trustworthy source. Do you want the Player to try to play this content? Yes/No Answering YES then gives the following error message. Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the specified protocol is not supported. If you typed a URL in the Open URL dialog box, trying using a different transport protocol (for example, http: or rtsp:). I close this dialog box and nothing plays. However, I can save the file and then open it with Media Player with no problems whatsoever. Does anyone have a resolution to this problem? Thank you in advance! Danny, Doesn't anyone have a resolution to this problem? Thank you in advance! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Address Not Found
A Williams wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/6/2010 10:31 AM, Mike Jevtic wrote: After installing SM2 this afternoon I keep getting the following error message for good few WEB sites, which with SM1 I have had no problems at all Address Not Found www.ebay.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.goggle.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. www.royalmail.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. netscape.aol.com could not be found. Please check the name and try again. any help would be appreciated, Mike I am seeing this problem rather often. After I dismiss the error popup, I retry the link. It usually works then. Instead of retrying, I can right-click on the link, select Copy link location, and paste the result into a DNS lookup tool I have. For links that I have visited recently but cannot be accessed by SeaMonkey, the tool always reports an IP address. I can then do a WhoIs on the IP address, which gives a result consistent with the Web page I was trying to reach. Thus, it seems to be a problem with how SeaMonkey interfaces with the Internet or interfaces with WindowsXP as an intermediary for interfacing with the Internet. That is, it's likely a Gecko or Toolkit problem. Now *that* is a problem I know, but it is my ISP's DNS servers which are at fault. Not just that, the miserable barstewards then pass my input on to a redirect screen which comes up with 1001 possible sites I could be looking for while screwing up my original input line. Changing DNS servers, flushing cache and clicking on the bookmark again gets me the site. This is under Linux. Curiously enough, I think my (Win XP) laptop can access the site on the normal DNS servers. Maybe they fixed their DNS. Have you tried OpenDNS. when the DNS is slow I switch my setup to us OpenDNS They assign two DNS numbers. And seem to work faster. I use the free version but they have several For Pay versions. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
JohnW-Mpls wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:35:40 +0100, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at
wrote:
JohnW-Mpls schrieb:
I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much
simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question:
is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if so,
about when might that change be expected?
Could you define the actual problem you're having and what's not
decent in SM2 for that matter?
Robert Kaiser
I hope the following helps, Robert. If not enough, what would you
like?
SM 1.18 vs 2.0 Password Insertion
SM 1.18
Within 2 seconds after getting a website's opening screen, 1.18 has
inserted the User ID and Password for that site. (This assumes that I
have clicked to save the password when at that site previously.) When
I go to GoDaddy where I have over a half dozen accounts, it can take 5
seconds for SM to bring up a little screen listing all my accounts,
from which screen I select the one account I want to open. At some
sites where I had not logged out from my previous visit, I never even
see the opening screen requesting ID P/W - I go right to their home
screen. At banking sites like Wells Fargo, the ID P/W are never
saved so never inserted by SM.
SM 2.0
(The following assumes that I have clicked to save the User ID
password when at that site previously.) All sites stop at the opening
screen waiting for the ID P/W. I don't remember ever seeing their
insertion without a bunch of clicking by me (right left clicks) to
get any saved data from SM. That takes 5-20 seconds, sometimes never,
and typically just the ID and that I have to move to the proper box on
the screen for the P/W to appear.
While using 2.0, I started to save sites IDs PWs so I could enter
them manually - I could do that faster and without the frustration of
hoping for SM to do something. I have over 100 sites in the password
manager and some vendors like to assign their own IDs so I cannot rely
on just a few for manual insertion. (I also have many passwords but
that is no problem - SM fills those in quickly once the ID is
identified.)
+ + + + + +
Note that I'm surprised that this situation is not well known to you.
It was mentioned in a number of messages right after 2.0 went from
beta to live at the end of October.
--
JohnW-Mplsjohn...@comcast.net 952-593-0954
It is known. its a new feature that was demanded by Bank/Financial
institutions. (Of course everyone assumes that if your saving
username/Passwords That you not encrypting and using a Master password.
(anyone not has rocks in their head). even if you save User
names/passwords they want show up until click in username box and type
at least the first letter of Username and same for password.
There is a couple of things to get back the old style:
Open Bookmarks and create a new Bookmark and give the name Remember Password
in location type the or copy/paste the following (all on the same line):
javascript:(function(){var%20ca,cea,cs,df,dfe,i,j,x,y;function%20n(i,what){return%20i+%22%20%22+what+((i==1)?%22%22:%22s%22)}ca=cea=cs=0;df=document.forms;for(i=0;idf.length;++i){x=df[i];dfe=x.elements;if(x.onsubmit){x.onsubmit=%22%22;++cs;}if(x.attributes[%22autocomplete%22]){x.attributes[%22autocomplete%22].value=%22on%22;++ca;}for(j=0;jdfe.length;++j){y=dfe[j];if(y.attributes[%22autocomplete%22]){y.attributes[%22autocomplete%22].value=%22on%22;++cea;}}}alert(%22Removed%20autocomplete=off%20from%20%22+n(ca,%22form%22)+%22%20and%20from%20%22+n(cea,%22form%20element%22)+%22,%20and%20removed%20onsubmit%20from%20%22+n(cs,%22form%22)+%22.%20After%20you%20type%20your%20password%20and%20submit%20the%20form,%20the%20browser%20will%20offer%20to%20remember%20your%20password.%22)})();
Then go to this Site and follow the direction given.
http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-remember-passwords/
Note the second Item you will have to repeat every time SM is updated.
Note these methods are not recommended by the SeaMonkey group.
But if your like me being 60 years old, and having 50-100 sites or more
I go to that require usernames and passwords if I had to remember all of
them I would be in an insane asylum and I don't feel like writing them
down in a log book. And If I did and it was to get stolen Then I would
be less secure.
--
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Re: Opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV.
Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: When opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV. I receive the following error. There is a problem with the URL or file you are trying to open or play. If you are trying to open an URL, the URL may not be valid. If you are trying to play a file, the file type is not recognized by Windows Media Player, but the Player may still be able to play the file. However, you should only play files from a trustworthy source. Do you want the Player to try to play this content? Yes/No Answering YES then gives the following error message. Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the specified protocol is not supported. If you typed a URL in the Open URL dialog box, trying using a different transport protocol (for example, http: or rtsp:). I close this dialog box and nothing plays. However, I can save the file and then open it with Media Player with no problems whatsoever. Does anyone have a resolution to this problem? Thank you in advance! Danny, Doesn't anyone have a resolution to this problem? Thank you in advance! Have you gone to Preferences Browser Helper applications. When you get to WMV and WMA click to select the a button comes up click button to choose windows media Player (plugin if available) for PC or Flip4Mac if on Macintosh Should open directly either from Browser or will automatically open Windows media Player. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Transfer mail from old account to new
Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 14:17, OldTimer told the world: Thanks, all good answers and offer me an easy way to deal with my problem. I will go with just leaving it be. So, how do I stop SM from opening the old account first when I open SM? I'm not sure what you meant by that. If you wish to change the way the accounts are ordered in the left pane of the mail client, the easiest way I know of is by using the Folderpane Tools add-on: http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/folderpane.php Unfortunately, that needs a bit of hacking too, since it is a bit old and does not list itself as compatible with Seamonkey 2. Not a unique situation, but there are plenty of messages teaching how to work around the version compatibility check... If you want to stop Seamonkey from trying to contact the old account, just open the account settings and clear all the check email when... options. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #40: not enough memory, go get system upgrade * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 program default directory
Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 13:19, Ray_Net told the world: OBones wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Could someone tell us in what directory SM2 has been installed. Question is for windows os, default directory, not the profile. C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey2 In my WindowsXP with SM1.1.X it is: C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey I find strange that with SM2 it is not: C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey2 Part of the reason for that is that because of the change in toolkits, it was decided that the best course (safer) would be *not* to install over the older version. So, keeping it on C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey was out. Of course, it would be possible to use C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey2. But the other thing is, Seamonkey is not really a Mozilla Foundation project. The old Mozilla Application Suite was, Seamonkey is not. Seamonkey is a community project or whatever is the jargon nowadays. And then, not even mozilla.org's flagship, Firefox, uses the C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\ folder anymore. It was kinda funny that the one piece of software to use the mozilla.org folder wasn't a project of the MoFo... Going forward, the change is probably for the best. New users looking for the application folder are more likely to look for the program's name than for mozilla.org. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #294: PCMCIA slave driver * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM2 program default directory
On 1/7/2010 1:47 PM, Arne wrote: It is C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey Install of SM2 do not overwrite anything from SM1 since the mozilla.org directory is not used. Unless, of course, the user installed SM 1.1.X into /Program Files/SeaMonkey, which is not all that far-fetched. These are *default* values after all. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Transfer mail from old account to new
When I was typing the question I wondered whether it was clear enough. So, here's what happens: When I click on the SM icon on the desktop it opens with the old account first and I have to scroll down to my other accounts to click on Get Msgs (it's quite a scroll as I've got lots of subfolders listed). I'd rather not have to do this each time. Now that I think about it, it seems obvious that the first account listed in the left pane is the one that shows up first. I like the suggestion of re-arranging the order, but I don't think I could handle any hacking. Perhaps there's an even easier way to do this? Thanks, Ed MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 7/1/2010 14:17, OldTimer told the world: Thanks, all good answers and offer me an easy way to deal with my problem. I will go with just leaving it be. So, how do I stop SM from opening the old account first when I open SM? I'm not sure what you meant by that. If you wish to change the way the accounts are ordered in the left pane of the mail client, the easiest way I know of is by using the Folderpane Tools add-on: http://www.chuonthis.com/extensions/folderpane.php Unfortunately, that needs a bit of hacking too, since it is a bit old and does not list itself as compatible with Seamonkey 2. Not a unique situation, but there are plenty of messages teaching how to work around the version compatibility check... If you want to stop Seamonkey from trying to contact the old account, just open the account settings and clear all the check email when... options. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bizarre behavior in 2.0.1 mailnews
Bill Davidsen wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: When I am reading mail/news in 1.1.18, the header pane scroll indicator can be used to move the view up or down. If I middle click in the scroll region the indicator and display move to that spot. Useful so I can move around. In 2.0.1 the same action opens a tab instead of scrolling. Note: no I am *not* clicking on the article header by accident, that's a useful behavior. The only way to get the previous behavior is to shift-click, which requires use of both hands, more time, etc.I can't find any benefit at all from this behavior and regard it as a regression from 1.1.xx interface. I do have middleclick opens in new tab, that's a browser thing, and should not apply to the scrollbar! Sounds like one for the OS-build Bill. Middle-click to header-scroll-position works fine in SM-2.*/Linux_64bit (and I also have set middle-click to-open new-tab in background left-click opening tab in foreground. Interesting, even most bizarre, since if I middle click in the scroll bar it opens the current article in a new tab, with no sidebar. Using the traditional three pane view. And the odd thing is that it works as expected in the browser, but the mail/news gives me a new tab rather than scroll. Shift-left still gives me scroll, but it's a two hand operation. Thanks for that Shift-left one Bill. I was wondering about that left-click mouse only scrolling the headers 6-lines towards the cursor-position (same as Preferences/Advanced Mouse wheel vertical-scrolling setting), but my Shift-left does also correctly-scroll the headers to the exact cursor-position in the scrollbar, just as my middle-click does. Middle-click in the Subject: opens the article in a new messaging-tab in the background, whereas left-click opens the article in a new-tab in the foreground-focus. Middle-click in the News-Feed articles Website-header-line: opens the article-web-page in the browser background-tab, with the left-click opening it in the browser foreground-tab-focus. I tested Preferences / Mail Newsgroups / Message Display / General / When opening messages, display them in: a new window (I normally-use the alternate An existing message window option), but even with a SeaMonkey-restart, middle-click still goes to the exact cursor position in the header-scrollbar (Not opening in either a new-tab or a new-window). So, the Messages-settings new-message-window does nothing for this function. I just checked tab in the about:config, and I have nothing that is even remotely connected to messaging tabs or mailnews tabs, ~~ in-fact, I have nothing concerning mailnews-tabs, much-less something that would interact-with/override the mouse-controls. In about:config, the only settings for tab in any shape or form, are specifically browser-settings (or extensions/functions within the browser, such as scrapbook and sidebar). - I'm guessing the difference is somehow OS-related within the new messaging-tabs, but just in case:- My settings for the Preferences / Browser / Tabbed Browsing (the only tab focus/function controls openly accessible) are-- Tab Display: all deselected except the selected Warn me when closing a window with multiple tabs. When opening a bookmark group: all deselected except the selected Add tabs. Open tabs instead of windows for: all deselected except the selected Middle-click, Ctrl+click or Ctrl+Enter on links in a Web page. Link open behaviour: all deselected except the selected A new tab in the current window. Links from other applications: all deselected except the selected A new tab in the current window. -- These are the only about:config tab highlighted bold preferences that are non-default (that I have changed via the Preferences panel) user_pref(browser.tabs.autoHide, false); user_pref(browser.tabs.loadGroup, 0); user_pref(browser.tabs.loadInBackground, true); user_pref(browser.tabs.opentabfor.middleclick, true); user_pref(browser.tabs.warnOnCloseOther, false); These are the only about:config mousewheel highlighted bold preferences that are non-default (that I have changed via the Preferences panel) mousewheel.horizscroll.withaltkey.sysnumlines;true mousewheel.withaltkey.action;0 mousewheel.withaltkey.sysnumlines;true mousewheel.withshiftkey.action;5 - These are the only about:config scrollbar preferences (All are still set to default):- dom.disable_window_open_feature.scrollbars;false layout.scrollbar.side;0 middlemouse.scrollbarPosition;true These are the only about:config cursor preferences (All are still set to default):- ui.use_activity_cursor;false These are the only about:config middlemouse preferences (All are still set to default):- middlemouse.contentLoadURL;true middlemouse.openNewWindow;true middlemouse.paste;true middlemouse.scrollbarPosition;true - I may be particularly
Has mail Threading changed in SM 2
Virtually every day, I get an email headed Possible error(s) in your website (dxmm) and, under SM 1.x.x, these all appeared in the same thread, making their deletion easy. Now I find they are listing separately. I've had a look at my Mail News group Account settings and the Mail News group settings under Prefs but nothing jumps out at me! Any Ideas?? -- Seasons greeting, one and all and may this year be a better one! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Outgoing server
Mr. Cheese wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mr. Cheese wrote: I spend the winter at another location. In the past I merely had to change my outgoing server name to my new location ISP in order to send mail. I now get the following messsge: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: Authentication Failed, must login. Please check the message recipient email ID and try again. Note: the mail ID is whatever recipient to whom I am sending. Retrieving mail is not a problem This has worked in previous years. Any help would be appreciated There is a a new setting in SM 2 that should be off by default but is turned on. EDIT menu Mail Newsgroup settings SMTP choose edit uncheck use secure authentication. This wasn't in SM1.1.8 and lower. It's already unchecked. Any other ideas? I've uninstalled and reinstalled sm 2.0.1, Still no luck. Local ISP has reviewed my settings a says they're correct. ANy other ideas? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Address Not Found
On 01/07/2010 01:50 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: A Williams wrote: ... Now *that* is a problem I know, but it is my ISP's DNS servers which are at fault. Not just that, the miserable barstewards then pass my input on to a redirect screen which comes up with 1001 possible sites I could be looking for while screwing up my original input line. Changing DNS servers, flushing cache and clicking on the bookmark again gets me the site. This is under Linux. Curiously enough, I think my (Win XP) laptop can access the site on the normal DNS servers. Maybe they fixed their DNS. Have you tried OpenDNS. when the DNS is slow I switch my setup to us OpenDNS They assign two DNS numbers. And seem to work faster. I use the free version but they have several For Pay versions. Or instead of using a 'nanny' dns, you might want to give Google's a try: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/ http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/intro.html http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq.html#privacy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV.
On 01/07/2010 01:49 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Danny Kile wrote: When opening an attached file in an e-mail when the file type is a WMV. I receive the following error. There is a problem with the URL or file you are trying to open or play. If you are trying to open an URL, the URL may not be valid. If you are trying to play a file, the file type is not recognized by Windows Media Player, but the Player may still be able to play the file. However, you should only play files from a trustworthy source. Do you want the Player to try to play this content? Yes/No Answering YES then gives the following error message. Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the specified protocol is not supported. If you typed a URL in the Open URL dialog box, trying using a different transport protocol (for example, http: or rtsp:). I close this dialog box and nothing plays. However, I can save the file and then open it with Media Player with no problems whatsoever. Does anyone have a resolution to this problem? Thank you in advance! Danny, Doesn't anyone have a resolution to this problem? Thank you in advance! In linux I just resolved this for a friend by having him: quote Edit|Preferences|Browser|Helper Applications|search 'wmv' and then use: Use Movie Player (default). You can then right click on the wmv attachment select 'Open' and it will automatically open Movie Player play the video. When finished you're back to your email pane. /quote Perhaps you can do similar for Windows? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Restore Form manger...(no content)
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: My initial point/suggestion was to leverage capability built into the individual OS...thus allowing you to drop some code altogether. By introducing at least three code paths for the three major platforms, and probably some more for others like Solaris, AIX, OS/2 and whatever else builds can be made for. Which you do already in maintaining a multi-platform product, so it's not a stretch. But again - that also assumes the lines of code required to branch would be far fewer that the number of lines required to write a whole forms and/or password managing routine; and might prove a bit more maintainable to, because interface implementation would be tied to a well documented commercial product. But I also stated that that suggestion would be moot if all three primary OSs didn't provide the same function/service across the board. It's surely not the same, but different implementations that do similar but in details different things and usually are completely different to interface with. Robert Kaiser What I would leverage would be the similarities, if they exist; common data within similar but not identical databases. But I'm beginning to think that my initial caveat of similar built in capability across the OS spectrum probably prohibits the whole idea... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
jim wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:15:20 -0800, Rufus n...@home.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: [JS in MailNews] As I am sure you know, but for those who do not, in about:config: javascript.allow.mailnews Set to true. That won't have any effect. JS in MailNews is gone for good: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Javascript.allow.mailnews The reason that the pref is still appearing in about:config is that the relevant patch applies against core code which follows different time schedules. The pref will be removed from about:config in SeaMonkey 2.1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248280 HTH Jens I guess this doesn't surprise me. Just one more example of the interface not being in step with the code...now I can't trust what I see in about:config or what it actually does either? Thanks. But hasn't that always been the case, stretching back into netscape? I believe that there are some vestigial files as well... jim And that's why I'm not a fan of fiddling with about:config...user input/control should be provided in user Preference panels - it's one thing if I come here and get info on a workaround from a knowledgeable individual, in advance of a forthcoming fix, but as a general, generic user I should never even have to think about about:config. Just trying to get people to think before/when they code. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
Rufus wrote: jim wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:15:20 -0800, Rufus n...@home.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: [JS in MailNews] As I am sure you know, but for those who do not, in about:config: javascript.allow.mailnews Set to true. That won't have any effect. JS in MailNews is gone for good: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Javascript.allow.mailnews The reason that the pref is still appearing in about:config is that the relevant patch applies against core code which follows different time schedules. The pref will be removed from about:config in SeaMonkey 2.1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248280 HTH Jens I guess this doesn't surprise me. Just one more example of the interface not being in step with the code...now I can't trust what I see in about:config or what it actually does either? Thanks. But hasn't that always been the case, stretching back into netscape? I believe that there are some vestigial files as well... jim And that's why I'm not a fan of fiddling with about:config...user input/control should be provided in user Preference panels - it's one thing if I come here and get info on a workaround from a knowledgeable individual, in advance of a forthcoming fix, but as a general, generic user I should never even have to think about about:config. Just trying to get people to think before/when they code. But then, how would a novice user even know that about:config even exists, if not for the advice of a knowledgeable user, or reading a detailed Knowledge Base article? Seems to me its not exactly the kind of thing one just stumbles upin accidentally. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1 vs 1.1.18...again...
Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: jim wrote: On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:15:20 -0800, Rufus n...@home.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: [JS in MailNews] As I am sure you know, but for those who do not, in about:config: javascript.allow.mailnews Set to true. That won't have any effect. JS in MailNews is gone for good: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Javascript.allow.mailnews The reason that the pref is still appearing in about:config is that the relevant patch applies against core code which follows different time schedules. The pref will be removed from about:config in SeaMonkey 2.1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248280 HTH Jens I guess this doesn't surprise me. Just one more example of the interface not being in step with the code...now I can't trust what I see in about:config or what it actually does either? Thanks. But hasn't that always been the case, stretching back into netscape? I believe that there are some vestigial files as well... jim And that's why I'm not a fan of fiddling with about:config...user input/control should be provided in user Preference panels - it's one thing if I come here and get info on a workaround from a knowledgeable individual, in advance of a forthcoming fix, but as a general, generic user I should never even have to think about about:config. Just trying to get people to think before/when they code. But then, how would a novice user even know that about:config even exists, if not for the advice of a knowledgeable user, or reading a detailed Knowledge Base article? Seems to me its not exactly the kind of thing one just stumbles upin accidentally. Lee That's my point, exactly. If the code works he should even have to know. And if he has a problem he can come to a forum and ask. My wish/hope is that the code works and nobody has a problem - I know that can't/won't happen 100%, but I'd sure like to see 90% or better in a stable release. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bizarre behavior in 2.0.1 mailnews
Bill Davidsen wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: When I am reading mail/news in 1.1.18, the header pane scroll indicator can be used to move the view up or down. If I middle click in the scroll region the indicator and display move to that spot. Useful so I can move around. In 2.0.1 the same action opens a tab instead of scrolling. Note: no I am *not* clicking on the article header by accident, that's a useful behavior. The only way to get the previous behavior is to shift-click, which requires use of both hands, more time, etc.I can't find any benefit at all from this behavior and regard it as a regression from 1.1.xx interface. I do have middleclick opens in new tab, that's a browser thing, and should not apply to the scrollbar! Sounds like one for the OS-build Bill. Middle-click to header-scroll-position works fine in SM-2.*/Linux_64bit (and I also have set middle-click to-open new-tab in background left-click opening tab in foreground. Interesting, even most bizarre, since if I middle click in the scroll bar it opens the current article in a new tab, with no sidebar. Using the traditional three pane view. And the odd thing is that it works as expected in the browser, but the mail/news gives me a new tab rather than scroll. Shift-left still gives me scroll, but it's a two hand operation. Thanks for that Shift-left one Bill. I was wondering about that left-click mouse only scrolling the headers 6-lines towards the cursor-position (same as Preferences/Advanced Mouse wheel vertical-scrolling setting), but my Shift-left does also correctly-scroll the headers to the exact cursor-position in the scrollbar, just as my middle-click does. /snip/ - I may be particularly dense, but I can't see anything that would kill the header-scrollbar's middle-click cursor function. HTH. Barry. Yes, the problem is that middlemouse.scrollbarPosition;true doesn't work, middle clicking in the news/mail scrollbar positions nothing and opens a tab. The perfect bad behavior, I don't get the scroll, I do get a copy of an article I didn't want to see. But since people assure me that's intended behavior it can't be a bug, can it. Actually: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518545 Many thanks for the bug number, Bill. We had a slight point of confusion there, as I was testing the actual Message/News header-pane and not the Thread pane, which is the pane beneath the one you were referencing. Also, you noted in your bug-report that you get the new-tab behaviour in every pane's scrollbar, but I am only getting the middle-click opening the new-tab for the folder-pane and thread-pane scrollbars, but middle-click actually does work properly in the header-pane and the message-pane scrollbars, which seems really-odd! I think that SeaMonkey's header-bar is our own code, but I'm pretty-sure that the message-pane's scrollbar has to be part of Mail/News codebase. Many thanks for the effort. Barry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. Are you saying that everything is now working? The Validator continued to work when NTT is disabled? The other extension that can enable outdated extensions is Mr Tech, you might see if that works better for you. Lee Yes Validator is working after the force install. But with Nightly tester tool in interferes with PDF Browser Plugin and also Quote Colors. I've installed MrTech and it didn't interfere with PDF Browser Plugin. And QuoteColors works as it should. Evidently Nightly Tester Tool has some serious defects. Wow! Thanks for that one, Phillip. I was wondering why I could only get the first PDF-document to display in SM2-1a1pre (if that!), with subsequent pages opening an empty-page. I'm using the standard plugin (Adobe-Reader-9.1 npwrapper.nppdf.so for Linux) and yes, disabling Nightly-Tester-Tools actually does reactivate Adobe-Reader (I tried seven PDF-tabs and all worked perfectly). Hope Mossop's reading this. Barry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Outgoing server
On 01/07/2010 04:10 PM, Mr. Cheese wrote: ... It's already unchecked. Any other ideas? I've uninstalled and reinstalled sm 2.0.1, Still no luck. Local ISP has reviewed my settings a says they're correct. ANy other ideas? Yes... provide details; including links to your isp's setup pages, your settings, smtp pop servers, etc., etc. Nobody here has a crystal ball to determine what you settings are supposed to be. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
Robert Kaiser wrote: Could you define the actual problem you're having and what's not decent in SM2 for that matter? My personal beef with SM2's forms and password handling is that it is entirely unpredictable. On a few sites, things are automatically filled in. On some, a double click in a field will get it filled. On some sites if you start typing you'll get a selection. Finally, on some sites (which worked with SM1) nothing works at all. True, on SM1 some sites would not allow passwords to be saved, but how passwords (for the majority of sites, where they could be saved) and other form fields were handled was very consistent and it *worked*. Loss of functionality coupled with unpredictable behaviour (from one site to the next) makes SM2 very unpleasant to use. Graham. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. Are you saying that everything is now working? The Validator continued to work when NTT is disabled? The other extension that can enable outdated extensions is Mr Tech, you might see if that works better for you. Lee Yes Validator is working after the force install. But with Nightly tester tool in interferes with PDF Browser Plugin and also Quote Colors. I've installed MrTech and it didn't interfere with PDF Browser Plugin. And QuoteColors works as it should. Evidently Nightly Tester Tool has some serious defects. Wow! Thanks for that one, Phillip. I was wondering why I could only get the first PDF-document to display in SM2-1a1pre (if that!), with subsequent pages opening an empty-page. I'm using the standard plugin (Adobe-Reader-9.1 npwrapper.nppdf.so for Linux) and yes, disabling Nightly-Tester-Tools actually does reactivate Adobe-Reader (I tried seven PDF-tabs and all worked perfectly). Hope Mossop https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/153195's reading this. Barry. Addendum: Nightly-Tester-Tools does not seem to interfere with multiple PDF-files opened in SeaMonkey/2.0.2pre Adobe-Reader-9.1 npwrapper.nppdf.so for Linux. Must be only a Gecko-1.9.3a1pre thing! Barry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Has mail Threading changed in SM 2
On 1/7/2010 4:08 PM, Daniel wrote: Virtually every day, I get an email headed Possible error(s) in your website (dxmm) and, under SM 1.x.x, these all appeared in the same thread, making their deletion easy. Now I find they are listing separately. I've had a look at my Mail News group Account settings and the Mail News group settings under Prefs but nothing jumps out at me! Any Ideas?? Well, I don't remember the exact setting, but I'm hoping that my post will jog someone else's memory. There was a thread to two within the last couple months or so about this. SM 1.1.X would thread using the Reference header (or something like that), and if the message didn't contain one, it would fall-back automatically to thread based on the subject text. It seems SM 2.0 no longer does this fall-back by default. There is a preference to enable it, but I don't remember what it is called, and I don't have SM 2.X here to look at. I hope someone else will know what I'm talking about and come up with the right setting. Good luck. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
JohnW-Mpls wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:28:47 -0800, Rufusn...@home.com wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: In Dec I went back to 1.18 because my XP had a half dozen BSODs since I installed 2.0 in late Oct. I have not had a BSOD since returning to 1.18. Someone suggested running Ramtest incase the BSODs were caused by some RAM weakness. I did that - no ram errors. However, when removing and reinstalling SM versions, some other of my USB connected components seemed to run slowly - and it was plugged in via an old expansion hub. My internet (ethernet) was plugged into that same expansion hub and I wondered if some other internet activities were being affected by a slow expansion hub. So I swapped USB connections to get my internet on a USB port right on the motherboard. Eureka - all my internet action now seemed more crisp! My current postulation is the BSODs were caused by timing problems between the USB handling and SM 2.0. Not illogical that the new SM 2.0 base code expects tighter signal timing. (I could try proving this using Firefox Thunderbird on the old USB setup but...) I debated going back to SM 2.0 now but I'm spoiled by 1.18's much simpler handling of passwords for apps that require them. Question: is SM 2 going to be modified to handle passwords decently? And if so, about when might that change be expected? ...funny, I had a USB hub die on one of my Macs and also had a lot of issues until I figured out what the problem was, but I never really tied it to an app - it was just general problems. And I wouldn't figure that any problem would/could arise from a browsing suite unless your modem is networked via USB instead of wifi or Ethernet. Was/is that your case? No. I have ethernet/10baseT from my cable modem to a Belkin adapter which provides the USB for the computer (XP). -- JohnW-Mpls ...so then, you do actually have USB connectivity between your computer and the WAN net, right? Then I can see why you had a problem. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Back to 1.18 - More
Graham wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Could you define the actual problem you're having and what's not decent in SM2 for that matter? My personal beef with SM2's forms and password handling is that it is entirely unpredictable. On a few sites, things are automatically filled in. On some, a double click in a field will get it filled. On some sites if you start typing you'll get a selection. Finally, on some sites (which worked with SM1) nothing works at all. True, on SM1 some sites would not allow passwords to be saved, but how passwords (for the majority of sites, where they could be saved) and other form fields were handled was very consistent and it *worked*. Loss of functionality coupled with unpredictable behaviour (from one site to the next) makes SM2 very unpleasant to use. Graham. The big Password issue I have is the random requests for my Master Password that either freeze or crash SM. I put random in quotes because SM appears to ask for my Master when it is not required - I have my Pref set to ask for the Master only on first requirement, but the request comes up during downloads, reading NG, and/or navigating to sites which don't even need a password...then SM either freezes or crashes. The freezes were happening with 1.1.18, the crashes started with 2.0.1. If it would just behave as my Pref is set, all would be ok with me. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Nightly Tester Tool interferes with nightly Tester Tool
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I unlike a lot of people I Like to view PDF's with Browser So I use the PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert of Germany. The Nightly Tester Tool renders non working. I installed per Phil Chee's recommendation to allow HTML Validator to work. After forcing install of HTML Validator. I noted that I could no longer see PDF's from within SeaMonkey. After disabling Nightly tester Tool functionality returned. Are you saying that everything is now working? The Validator continued to work when NTT is disabled? The other extension that can enable outdated extensions is Mr Tech, you might see if that works better for you. Lee Yes Validator is working after the force install. But with Nightly tester tool in interferes with PDF Browser Plugin and also Quote Colors. I've installed MrTech and it didn't interfere with PDF Browser Plugin. And QuoteColors works as it should. Evidently Nightly Tester Tool has some serious defects. Wow! Thanks for that one, Phillip. I was wondering why I could only get the first PDF-document to display in SM2-1a1pre (if that!), with subsequent pages opening an empty-page. I'm using the standard plugin (Adobe-Reader-9.1 npwrapper.nppdf.so for Linux) and yes, disabling Nightly-Tester-Tools actually does reactivate Adobe-Reader (I tried seven PDF-tabs and all worked perfectly). Hope Mossop https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/user/153195's reading this. Barry. Addendum: Nightly-Tester-Tools does not seem to interfere with multiple PDF-files opened in SeaMonkey/2.0.2pre Adobe-Reader-9.1 npwrapper.nppdf.so for Linux. Must be only a Gecko-1.9.3a1pre thing! Barry. My error! Phillip breaks on SM-2.0.1/Gecko-1.9.1.6, and I succeed on SM-2.0.2pre/Gecko-1.9.1.8pre, so Gecko seems irrelevant. Barry. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.1, Ubuntu fonts
In news:0oydnd7rqj4mgtvwnz2dnuvz_oadn...@mozilla.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: On 01/06/2010 03:08 PM, Andrea Govoni wrote: Nevertheless, I have a problem with the text in the upper section of the page [1], where some symbols used for unrecognized characters are displayed (see [2]). However, I don't get those strange unrecognized character symbols on SM 1.1.18, even *without* the additional fonts installed, or in a fresh new SM2 profile. Any suggestion about what might cause this? [1] http://www.jyskordbog.dk/ordbog/ [2] http://idisk.mac.com/xfox/Public/SM2%20unrecognized%20characters.png Thank Andrea for testing. The symbols are most likely with a UTF-8 character setting. Try: View|Character Encoding|Western (ISO-8859-1) and see if you still get them. The page needs to be served with an HTTP Content-Type header that specifies ISO-8859-1 (or ISO-8859-15), like Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 or the page needs a meta tag like this one: meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Without one of these, browsers have to either guess or just use their defaults, which for a lot of users will lead to the kind of display in Andrea's link [2] above. Urgh, I've just realized the web site owner isn't actually reading this thread. Oh, well, I've typed it now -- and Andrea, NoOp's suggestion to switch your views should work fine, though the problem is with the site itself and users should never have to monkey with those settings. -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: V.2.0.1 Problems when composing emails
Broadback wrote: OBones wrote: Broadback wrote: Intermittently SeaMonkey locks up when starting to compose an email. It hangs when the first letter of the addressee is entered. It seems to happen when there is an outstanding email to be read. Though I am not certain of this and will need to make a more careful observation if it happens again. Have a look at my message on the fourth of January... Sorry, the trouble is that there are so many emails here now that I don't feel inclined to read them all, I just scan the heading. Not even that well enough it seems! I suggest that you unsubscribe from the email list interface and create a new newsgroup account for new.mozilla.org. You can then subscribe to the group mozilla.support.seamonkey. It is far and away the best way to view the topics in this group. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Selecting arbitrary text from a link
Can it be made possible please? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
