Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings and Leave Messages on Server Settings (More)

2010-03-02 Thread Daniel

Frog wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


Snip



Frog, I see Mark is assisting you with this, but can I try a different
tact.

Open one of your SM's mails and have a look at the Edit drop down
list. Near the bottom you should see Mail  Newsgroup Account
settings. Select this, then, in the new screen, select your mail
account and, more specifically, select Server Settings of your mail
account. At the bottom of this screen there is a section called Local
directory which shows where your mail account should be. Note this
location.

Close this Version of SM Mail and open your other SM Mail, go to this
same Local directory location.

Are these two locations the same??? (Hopefully not!!)

Report back.

Daniel


Thank you Daniel for helping me.

I did as you suggested and the two mail accounts are in different
locations. Here is what I observed when I did as you suggested:


SEAMONKEY 1.1.18
C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application
Data\Mozilla\Profile\Frog-SeaM\g62n48iz.slt\Mail\incoming.verizon.net

SEAMONKEY 2.0.3
C:\Documents and Settings\Frog\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profile\v1pbu8dh.default\Mail\incoming.verizon.net

Crazy question--does the word default in the second one refer to the
profile I am using? I know that the Profile Manager in 2.0.3 indicates
that I am using a default profile.

Any suggestions appreciated.

Frog



O.K., Frog, I see Lee and Mark have again answered the questions you 
ask, so I am going to continue in my own direction.


When you open your SM 2 Mail profile, does it show the same mail as your 
SM 1.x profile contained when you installed SM 2.x??


i.e. when you first installed SM 2.x, when you set up the mail portion, 
SM 2.x is supposed to make a copy (not import, but make a copy) of your 
SM 1.x profile, so the two default mail profiles should have been 
exactly the same at one time.


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Re: xsidebar

2010-03-02 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:23:38 -0700, JAS wrote:

 The reason I asked was that I have quite a number of extensions that
 were installed when it was needed but using Xsidebar does not allow me
 to select different search engines like the default sidebar does or I do
 not seem to locate it if it does. I agree that xsidebar is a neat
 extension .

xSidebar should not interfere with any of the functions of the built in
search sidebar. Could you be a bit more specific? What happens when you
try to select a different search engine when xSidebar is installed and
active?

Phil

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Chatzilla Bookmarks

2010-03-02 Thread Daniel
I was just about to submit a RFE to Bugzilla, but thought I might just 
check here first!!


Does Chatzilla have a Bookmarks equivalent, i.e. a list of the 
channels that I like, so I can just open Chatzilla an go to my 
Bookmarks and I'm in the group??


Closest I can see at the moment is, when I am already logged into a 
channel, I can go IRC-Join Channel, but if I'm not logged in anywhere, 
the Join Channel is greyed out.


TIA

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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Frog

Daniel wrote:

Frog wrote:

SNIP

The following is the remaining part of this call for help that has not
been answered. I thought it might help to get everything else out of the
way, so it would be easier for people to get to my problem. Here is that
problem and some of my comments.

Frog wrote:


Background:
I decided to install SeaMonkey 2.0.3 on my system yesterday. I also
intend to keep SeaMonkey 1.1.18 installed on my system. I allowed the
2.0.3 software to be installed in the default locations--I made
absolutely no changes to this process. My operating system is Windows
XP SP3.

Problem 1:
I am having a problem with the entries listed under Go when I am
looking at the 2.0.3 mail window. Here is the problem:

When I click Go at the top of the screen (the line just under the blue
banner)I see the following:

Next 
Previous 
___
Mail Start Page
___
f...@pond.com 
Local Folders 
Microsoft Help 
Mozilla Help 
etc.

All of the letters for Next and Previous are in black letters and the
remainder of the entries are in gray letters. I need to know how to
make the gray letters black so that I can click on them--so that they
will take me to the items clicked. Any suggestions?




I have used a big part of my day today reading web pages/old messages
etc. in an attempt to find the answer to my problem--no joy. I now have
a few questions, that reach far beyond my technical skill level. Here
are those questions:

-Could it be that some setting is wrong in about:config. Don't get
excited about my doing any changes in this area--I know better until
some technically smart person informs me what I should do. I just was
wondering, if my problem might be in this area.

-Why is it that I cannot find any information about the Go button
that exists on the Mail page? I thought maybe I could come to a
conclusion about the source of my problem--possibly a corrupt profile or
an error in the 2.0.3 software download.



Frog, I seem to remember, at one time, somewhere here, you mentioned 
that you copied your profile from an old back-up. Might this have been 
from a CD?? If so, the files copied from CD's may have been marked as 
Read-Only, which might explain why you are getting these results.


Close All versions of SeaMonkey and if you have the SM quick start icon 
down near the Start button turn it off as well.


Now open you Windows File Manager and go to the profile that you are 
having troubles with and right click on the inbox file and have a look 
at its properties to see if it is marked as Read-Only.


If it is, un-check it and do likewise for the other files in the 
profile, then go up a level and check and un-check those files, and go 
up a leveluntil you reach a level where they are not marked as 
Read-Only


Have fun.

Daniel



Thanks for the message---

As I said in my earlier messages, my technical knowledge is limited. 
Before I do something not so smart I will ask my questions.  Are you 
referring to Windows Explorer when you say Windows File Manager?  If so, 
all of the entries there from SeaMonkey through all of my accounts are 
Read Only.  I attempted to change one on them--the change simply 
reverts back to Read Only.  That is why I believe I must be in the 
wrong place to make the changes.


The only thing I did, subsequent to installing 2.0.3, was to establish 
ICONS on the Desktop for both old and new versions of SeaMonkey, and I 
copied/pasted, from a USB connected hard drive backup made on 2/15/2010, 
the start-up information for 1.1.18.  The original ICONs and start-up 
information for 1.1.18 was removed by Seamonkey 2.0.3 asit was being 
installed.  I have done nothing, other than the two ICONs (browser and 
mail) for 2.0.3 since it was installed.


Frog







-What role does the Profile play with regard to Mail and Newsgroup
Account settings? It appears that my accounts completed migration from
1.1.18 to 2.0.3. I say this because I can see (in gray letters) all of
my accounts in the Go drop down window. I can also open up my
default profile on 2.0.3 and find all of my accounts listed.

I have used every other aspect of the new SeaMonkey 2.0.3 software, that
I routinely use, and have found no other problems. I can download
personal mail, can access the web, can delete mail, can compose mail,
can open mail, etc. I can do everything I routinely do on 2.0.3, that I
previously did on 1.1.18. The big problem, however, is my inability to
access newsgroups as I did on the old system. That is why making the
Go button on the mail page work is so important. That is where I would
click the newsgroup I wanted to visit. Clicking an item in the drop down
window would close the account previously in use and open the new 
account.


The bottom line at this point is--
I don't know whether to remove 2.0.3 and reload the software,
create a new profile or
make a change in about:config (with instructions).


I think that sums up where I am at this point. I sure hope 

Re: Seamonkey 2.03

2010-03-02 Thread Robert Kaiser

MCBastos wrote:

This is a known issue. In the old Seamonkey, if you chose to use
authentication or encryption in your POP/SMTP connections and the server
didn't support it, Seamonkey silently fell back to
unencrypted/unauthenticated mode and did the connection anyway.

The new Seamonkey 2 doesn't do that -- if you ask for higher security
and the server doesn't provide it, it simply doesn't connect.


Actually, I believe this is probably something else, as that specific 
problem should have been fixed in 2.0.3 by going back to not doing the 
additional check.


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Re: xsidebar

2010-03-02 Thread JAS
Philip Chee wrote:
 On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:23:38 -0700, JAS wrote:

   
 The reason I asked was that I have quite a number of extensions that
 were installed when it was needed but using Xsidebar does not allow me
 to select different search engines like the default sidebar does or I do
 not seem to locate it if it does. I agree that xsidebar is a neat
 extension .
 
 xSidebar should not interfere with any of the functions of the built in
 search sidebar. Could you be a bit more specific? What happens when you
 try to select a different search engine when xSidebar is installed and
 active?

 Phil

   
When I am using xsidebar only one of the options
[bookmarks,search,address book or history] can be visible at one time
whereas with the default sidebar all care listed and can be selected. I
do have them added to show. Perhaps I need to reinstall the xsidebar. I
am using 1.1

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Re: xsidebar

2010-03-02 Thread JAS
JAS wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
   
 On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:23:38 -0700, JAS wrote:

   
 
 The reason I asked was that I have quite a number of extensions that
 were installed when it was needed but using Xsidebar does not allow me
 to select different search engines like the default sidebar does or I do
 not seem to locate it if it does. I agree that xsidebar is a neat
 extension .
 
   
 xSidebar should not interfere with any of the functions of the built in
 search sidebar. Could you be a bit more specific? What happens when you
 try to select a different search engine when xSidebar is installed and
 active?

 Phil

   
 
 When I am using xsidebar only one of the options
 [bookmarks,search,address book or history] can be visible at one time
 whereas with the default sidebar all care listed and can be selected. I
 do have them added to show. Perhaps I need to reinstall the xsidebar. I
 am using 1.1

   
I did do a reinstall but to no avail. I am afraid it is my fault as when
I first updated the xsidebar I did not uninstall the old as stated on
the page, I didn't read it, I just updated. Even tho I did uninstall
this time it didn't fix it. I have to learn to read a little more.

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Exiting SeaMonkey v2.0.3, with multiple windows and tabs opened, and still remembering sessions when restoring.

2010-03-02 Thread Ant

Hello!

I sometimes have SeaMonkey v2.0.3 with multiple windows and tabs opened. 
I noticed manually exiting it and relaunching it only brings back the 
last visited browser window with its tabs and not my other windows with 
tabs. How can I have it reshow all my opened windows and their tabs? I 
could terminate seamonkey.exe and relaunch, but it's ugly (deletes my 
caches and stuff since it think it crashed).


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Seamonkey 2.03

2010-03-02 Thread Mark Hansen
On 3/2/2010 6:02 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 MCBastos wrote:
 This is a known issue. In the old Seamonkey, if you chose to use
 authentication or encryption in your POP/SMTP connections and the server
 didn't support it, Seamonkey silently fell back to
 unencrypted/unauthenticated mode and did the connection anyway.

 The new Seamonkey 2 doesn't do that -- if you ask for higher security
 and the server doesn't provide it, it simply doesn't connect.
 
 Actually, I believe this is probably something else, as that specific 
 problem should have been fixed in 2.0.3 by going back to not doing the 
 additional check.
 
 Robert Kaiser

I thought the issue was that after migrating to 2.X, there was an
option selected for the mail server that shouldn't have been, and
it needed to be unchecked.

I just can't remember which option it was, but it was one of the
security/authentication options.

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Re: xsidebar

2010-03-02 Thread Philip Chee
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:01:48 -0700, JAS wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:23:38 -0700, JAS wrote:

   
 The reason I asked was that I have quite a number of extensions that
 were installed when it was needed but using Xsidebar does not allow me
 to select different search engines like the default sidebar does or I do
 not seem to locate it if it does. I agree that xsidebar is a neat
 extension .
 
 xSidebar should not interfere with any of the functions of the built in
 search sidebar. Could you be a bit more specific? What happens when you
 try to select a different search engine when xSidebar is installed and
 active?

 Phil

   
 When I am using xsidebar only one of the options
 [bookmarks,search,address book or history] can be visible at one time

Yes. This is Firefox behaviour which is what xSidebar implements. But
earlier you said that you couldn't change the search engine not that you
couldn't see all the sidebars.

 whereas with the default sidebar all care listed and can be selected. I
 do have them added to show. Perhaps I need to reinstall the xsidebar. I
 am using 1.1

Phil

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Re: xsidebar

2010-03-02 Thread JAS
Philip Chee wrote:
 On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:01:48 -0700, JAS wrote:
   
 Philip Chee wrote:
 
 On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:23:38 -0700, JAS wrote:

   
   
 The reason I asked was that I have quite a number of extensions that
 were installed when it was needed but using Xsidebar does not allow me
 to select different search engines like the default sidebar does or I do
 not seem to locate it if it does. I agree that xsidebar is a neat
 extension .
 
 
 xSidebar should not interfere with any of the functions of the built in
 search sidebar. Could you be a bit more specific? What happens when you
 try to select a different search engine when xSidebar is installed and
 active?

 Phil

   
   
 When I am using xsidebar only one of the options
 [bookmarks,search,address book or history] can be visible at one time
 
 Yes. This is Firefox behaviour which is what xSidebar implements. But
 earlier you said that you couldn't change the search engine not that you
 couldn't see all the sidebars.

   
 whereas with the default sidebar all care listed and can be selected. I
 do have them added to show. Perhaps I need to reinstall the xsidebar. I
 am using 1.1
 
 Phil

   
Sorry for my misinformation.

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Changing the reply format

2010-03-02 Thread Neil Hughes
Is it still the case with SM 2.x that you need to edit prefs.js (and set 
mailnews.reply_header_type) to change the reply header style, e.g. on 
date time, person said:?


I was about to do this, but thought I'd better check that there isn't a 
preference GUI option that I should be using.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.03

2010-03-02 Thread Bernard Mercier
Phillip Jones avait prétendu :
 MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 1/3/2010 20:59, Frank Van Eynde told the world:
 I have installed version 2.03 on another newer computer and am unable to
 send messages.

 I received the following notification


 Sending of message failed
 An error ocurred sending mail:Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
 shawmail.no.shawcable.net.
 It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but you have chosen  to
 use authentication.
 Uncheck Use name and password for that server or contact the server
 provider

 Any assistance to solve this problem is appreciated.

 This is a known issue. In the old Seamonkey, if you chose to use
 authentication or encryption in your POP/SMTP connections and the server
 didn't support it, Seamonkey silently fell back to
 unencrypted/unauthenticated mode and did the connection anyway.

 The new Seamonkey 2 doesn't do that -- if you ask for higher security
 and the server doesn't provide it, it simply doesn't connect.

 I didn't see the discussion, but I believe that this change was
 introduced for one or both of the following reasons:
 (a) The old setup gave users a false sense of security -- they enabled
 the security options believing their traffic was protected, when in
 fact it was not.
 (b) The new setup makes it a little bit harder to spoof your mail
 servers (by a virus, for example), since the spoofer will have to
 provide compatible security features as well. The old way the spoofer
 could use a very basic server with no security and it would fool Seamonkey.

 So, you should go to the settings window for your SMTP connection and
 untick the Use name and password box for it.

 As an aside: I would worry about your ISP allowing non-authenticated use
 of the SMTP server -- that's what's known as an open relay, a thing
 that spammers love. If spammers begin routing crap through it, the
 server could be blacklisted -- and then, regular users like you wouldn't
 be able to send messages.

 There are some alternate ways to keep spammers from SMTP servers -- such
 as restricting the sender IP or demanding a successful POP connection
 before allowing the SMTP send -- but I have noticed that most ISPs that
 used those alternate means have switched to password authentication. I
 suppose that those alternate means must have shortcomings... I can
 imagine a couple, and there are probably more.

 annexcafe is an authenticated server and requires not only password but 
 a username as well. You can go to one group only unauthenticated. that 
 group is used to get instructions how to sign up. Since I've been on 
 annexcafe (about 7-8 years) not one piece of spam have they ever had, 
 not once.

 Perhaps the only other method that would even more secure would be a 
 secure server.
Do I understand well that annexcafe can be used to sent smtp mail, even from
another mail client then SeaMonkey mail?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.03

2010-03-02 Thread Robert Kaiser

Mark Hansen wrote:

I thought the issue was that after migrating to 2.X, there was an
option selected for the mail server that shouldn't have been, and
it needed to be unchecked.


That was yet another issue that I think we even solved with 2.0.1 already.

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Re: Print difficulty

2010-03-02 Thread Ken
No wonder no-one deigned to answer my naive question!  A simple re-boot 
fixed the problem.  (Currently lacking an external monitor, I have been 
using my laptop's own screen.  Instead of shutting down the computer 
between sessions, I had simply been closing the lid - which induces 
'rest' mode, not 'off' mode.  So no re-booting had been happening.)


Thanks - Ken (in Oz)
-
Ken wrote:
Hi guys. I've SM 1.1. 16.  Lately, when I go to print an email from my 
Inbox, the Print button momentarily puts the appropriate box on the 
screen, but then the latter disappears.  To do my printing, I have to 
use Print Preview and then click on Print - and this time the 
appropriate box stays in place and I can enter in instructions (like the 
range of pages to print).


But how can I fix my little problem?

Thanks - Ken (in Oz)

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Re: Exiting SeaMonkey v2.0.3, with multiple windows and tabs opened, and still remembering sessions when restoring.

2010-03-02 Thread Stan

Ant wrote:

Hello!

I sometimes have SeaMonkey v2.0.3 with multiple windows and tabs opened.
I noticed manually exiting it and relaunching it only brings back the
last visited browser window with its tabs and not my other windows with
tabs. How can I have it reshow all my opened windows and their tabs? I
could terminate seamonkey.exe and relaunch, but it's ugly (deletes my
caches and stuff since it think it crashed).

Thank you in advance. :)


I just checked on Preferences/Browser/Restore Previous Session. Then I 
opened mulitple windows with multiple tabs.  I used Start/Shut 
Down/Restart to shut down my entire system.


When the system started again, I clicked on the SeaMonkey icon and it 
brought everything back up to where it was.

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Printing Problems with 1.1.18

2010-03-02 Thread Tom Pamin
I'm having a lot of problems using 1.1.18 to print web pages. I'm only 
getting parts of pages, and it sometimes leaves off whole pages. Most of 
the time these pages print fine in IE. This situation seems to be 
getting worse. I'm not switching to 2.03 until they bring back Forms 
Manager. Any ideas?

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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Frog wrote:


Daniel wrote:

Frog, I seem to remember, at one time, somewhere here, you mentioned 
that you copied your profile from an old back-up. Might this have been 
from a CD?? If so, the files copied from CD's may have been marked as 
Read-Only, which might explain why you are getting these results.


Close All versions of SeaMonkey and if you have the SM quick start 
icon down near the Start button turn it off as well.


Now open you Windows File Manager and go to the profile that you are 
having troubles with and right click on the inbox file and have a look 
at its properties to see if it is marked as Read-Only.


If it is, un-check it and do likewise for the other files in the 
profile, then go up a level and check and un-check those files, and go 
up a leveluntil you reach a level where they are not marked as 
Read-Only


Have fun.

Daniel



Thanks for the message---

As I said in my earlier messages, my technical knowledge is limited. 
Before I do something not so smart I will ask my questions.  Are you 
referring to Windows Explorer when you say Windows File Manager?


That seems like a reasonable assumption and the one I would make.


If so, all of the entries there from SeaMonkey through all of my
accounts are Read Only.  I attempted to change one on them--the
change simply reverts back to Read Only.  That is why I believe I
must be in the wrong place to make the changes.


If the profile is located on a CD, you can't change file attributes. If 
it's on an ordinary hard disk drive, you should be able to.


With SeaMonkey closed, of course...

In Windows Explorer, select the profile directory (the one above 
.slt, where  is a random assortment of numbers and 
letters) and right-click the folder name. One of the options should be 
Properties. Choose that.


The dialog that appears should have checkboxes as follows:

Attributes: [ ] Read-only   [Advanced...]

[ ] Hidden

Click the Read-only check box once to clear it, or more than once if 
necessary, but don't double-click it. Then click the Apply button at 
the bottom. Windows will prompt you, asking whether to apply the change 
only to the folder itself, or to the folder and all its contents. Tell 
it to apply the change to all the contents. After a minute of thinking, 
it should mark each and every file and subdirectory within the profile 
as read-only.


You don't have to go through hundreds or thousands of files one at a 
time by hand.


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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Mark Hansen
On 3/2/2010 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 In Windows Explorer, select the profile directory (the one above 
 .slt, where  is a random assortment of numbers and 
 letters) and right-click the folder name. One of the options should be 
 Properties. Choose that.
 
 The dialog that appears should have checkboxes as follows:
 
   Attributes: [ ] Read-only   [Advanced...]
 
   [ ] Hidden
 
 Click the Read-only check box once to clear it, or more than once if 
 necessary, but don't double-click it. Then click the Apply button at 
 the bottom. Windows will prompt you, asking whether to apply the change 
 only to the folder itself, or to the folder and all its contents. Tell 
 it to apply the change to all the contents. After a minute of thinking, 
 it should mark each and every file and subdirectory within the profile 
 as read-only.
 
 You don't have to go through hundreds or thousands of files one at a 
 time by hand.
 

Just FYI, my top-level SM 1.1.X profile directory also indicates Read
Only when viewed in Windows/Explorer and my application is running
normally.

Note that when I view the properties of individual files (not directories),
they don't show as read only. Perhaps checking the directories is not the
correct approach?

I'm running Windows/XP SP3, btw.
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Re: Printing Problems with 1.1.18

2010-03-02 Thread Robert Kaiser

Tom Pamin wrote:

I'm not switching to 2.03 until they bring back Forms
Manager. Any ideas?


Have you tried the add-ons listed in the last-but-one item at 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3/#issues yet?


We will not support SeaMonkey 1.x any longer, even the end-of-life 
1.1.19 release that is to come very soon has known security flaws and 
will not recommended to be used (though still somewhat better than 1.1.18).


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Re: Printing Problems with 1.1.18

2010-03-02 Thread JeffM
Tom Pamin wrote:
I'm having a lot of problems using 1.1.18 to print web pages.
I'm only getting parts of pages,
and it sometimes leaves off whole pages.

Running Lightning?
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/b8776d7b0fbbba97?q=bugzilla+zz+uninstalling+Lightning+truncates+printing

Tried a print-to-PDF operation yet?
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Re: Printing Problems with 1.1.18

2010-03-02 Thread Tom Pamin

JeffM wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

I'm having a lot of problems using 1.1.18 to print web pages.
I'm only getting parts of pages,
and it sometimes leaves off whole pages.


Running Lightning?
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/b8776d7b0fbbba97?q=bugzilla+zz+uninstalling+Lightning+truncates+printing

Tried a print-to-PDF operation yet?


Not sure how to do that?
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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/2/2010 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
In Windows Explorer, select the profile directory (the one above 
.slt, where  is a random assortment of numbers and 
letters) and right-click the folder name. One of the options should be 
Properties. Choose that.


The dialog that appears should have checkboxes as follows:

Attributes: [ ] Read-only   [Advanced...]

[ ] Hidden

Click the Read-only check box once to clear it, or more than once if 
necessary, but don't double-click it. Then click the Apply button at 
the bottom. Windows will prompt you, asking whether to apply the change 
only to the folder itself, or to the folder and all its contents. Tell 
it to apply the change to all the contents. After a minute of thinking, 
it should mark each and every file and subdirectory within the profile 
as read-only.


You don't have to go through hundreds or thousands of files one at a 
time by hand.


Just FYI, my top-level SM 1.1.X profile directory also indicates Read
Only when viewed in Windows/Explorer and my application is running
normally.

Note that when I view the properties of individual files (not directories),
they don't show as read only. Perhaps checking the directories is not the
correct approach?

I'm running Windows/XP SP3, btw.


Me, too.

A thorough examination of my system shows that all the /folders/ in my 
profile have gray (not black) checkmarks, which normally indicates that 
some of their contents are read-only and some are not (I suppose it 
could also mean the attribute is not set for these folders). However, 
all the actual /files/ are not read-only. This is with system and hidden 
files and folders revealed.


Still, if the OP wants to clear the read-only attribute quickly and 
easily after copying from a CD, the technique I described is the way to 
go. Fast, easy, painless, guaranteed to work.


--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Mark Hansen
On 3/2/2010 7:41 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Me, too.
 
 A thorough examination of my system shows that all the /folders/ in my 
 profile have gray (not black) checkmarks, which normally indicates that 
 some of their contents are read-only and some are not (I suppose it 
 could also mean the attribute is not set for these folders). However, 
 all the actual /files/ are not read-only. This is with system and hidden 
 files and folders revealed.
 
 Still, if the OP wants to clear the read-only attribute quickly and 
 easily after copying from a CD, the technique I described is the way to 
 go. Fast, easy, painless, guaranteed to work.
 

Did the OP copy from a CD?
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Re: Repeated Rendering of a Web Page

2010-03-02 Thread Leonidas Jones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/1/10 5:20 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Has anyone noticed a Web page loading, reloading, reloading again,
without ever stopping with SeaMonkey 2.0.3?  It looks as if Gecko were
looping.

I get this with Premier America Credit Union home page at
https://www.premier.org/.  You can see the effect without logging-on
to an account.  Actually, before I could logon, I had to select the Stop
button.  I did not have this problem with SeaMonkey 2.0.2.

The IT department at Premier America Credit Union insists that the
problem lies in Firefox 3.5 (which I have to spoof for that site).  A
supervisor in that department claims they support only Firefox 3.0 and
IE 7, not Firefox 3.5 or IE 8.  Because of this assertion, I submitted a
Tech Evangelism bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549498.

However, I would like to know if anyone has seen a similar problem with
SeaMonkey 2.0.3 or with any other application using Gecko 1.9.1.8.



I let the page reload several times.  It might be the result of a
JavaScript changing large images on the page.  I've seen this effect
before, with image files that have fewer bytes.  In this case, the
script might be timing-out before the image can load through my dial-up
connection.  Further, the script could be poorly designed in a way that
causes the entire page to refresh.  I'll investigate further.



Let us know what you find.  I found no issue at all on Mac OS X, Snow 
Leopard.


Lee
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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Frog

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Frog wrote:


Daniel wrote:

Frog, I seem to remember, at one time, somewhere here, you mentioned 
that you copied your profile from an old back-up. Might this have 
been from a CD?? If so, the files copied from CD's may have been 
marked as Read-Only, which might explain why you are getting these 
results.


Close All versions of SeaMonkey and if you have the SM quick start 
icon down near the Start button turn it off as well.


Now open you Windows File Manager and go to the profile that you are 
having troubles with and right click on the inbox file and have a 
look at its properties to see if it is marked as Read-Only.


If it is, un-check it and do likewise for the other files in the 
profile, then go up a level and check and un-check those files, and 
go up a leveluntil you reach a level where they are not 
marked as Read-Only


Have fun.

Daniel



Thanks for the message---

As I said in my earlier messages, my technical knowledge is limited. 
Before I do something not so smart I will ask my questions.  Are you 
referring to Windows Explorer when you say Windows File Manager?


That seems like a reasonable assumption and the one I would make.


If so, all of the entries there from SeaMonkey through all of my
accounts are Read Only.  I attempted to change one on them--the
change simply reverts back to Read Only.  That is why I believe I
must be in the wrong place to make the changes.


If the profile is located on a CD, you can't change file attributes. If 
it's on an ordinary hard disk drive, you should be able to.


My profile for 1.1.18 is on my C: hard drive.  The new migrated 
(default) profile for 2.0.3 is also on my C: hard drive.  I have nothing 
associated with either version that is on a CD.  I do have a Feb. 15 
complete backup of my internal hard drive (C: and E: drives)on a USB 
external hard drive.


With SeaMonkey closed, of course...

In Windows Explorer, select the profile directory (the one above 
.slt, where  is a random assortment of numbers and 
letters) and right-click the folder name. One of the options should be 
Properties. Choose that.


The dialog that appears should have checkboxes as follows:

Attributes: [ ] Read-only   [Advanced...]

[ ] Hidden

Click the Read-only check box once to clear it, or more than once if 
necessary, but don't double-click it. Then click the Apply button at 
the bottom. Windows will prompt you, asking whether to apply the change 
only to the folder itself, or to the folder and all its contents. Tell 
it to apply the change to all the contents. After a minute of thinking, 
it should mark each and every file and subdirectory within the profile 
as read-only.


You don't have to go through hundreds or thousands of files one at a 
time by hand.


This process does not work on my system.  I made the changes as you 
suggested.  After making the change, I went back to see if the Read 
Only was deselected.  To my surprise, the Read Only was again 
selected.  I attempted to make this change several times with the same 
results.  I then made a visit to 1.1.18 and Read Only was also 
selected in this version, and the items in the drop down window under 
Go were black and respond to my mouse clicks.


Frog



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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Frog

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/2/2010 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
In Windows Explorer, select the profile directory (the one above 
.slt, where  is a random assortment of numbers and 
letters) and right-click the folder name. One of the options should be 
Properties. Choose that.


The dialog that appears should have checkboxes as follows:

Attributes: [ ] Read-only   [Advanced...]

[ ] Hidden

Click the Read-only check box once to clear it, or more than once if 
necessary, but don't double-click it. Then click the Apply button at 
the bottom. Windows will prompt you, asking whether to apply the change 
only to the folder itself, or to the folder and all its contents. Tell 
it to apply the change to all the contents. After a minute of thinking, 
it should mark each and every file and subdirectory within the profile 
as read-only.


You don't have to go through hundreds or thousands of files one at a 
time by hand.




Just FYI, my top-level SM 1.1.X profile directory also indicates Read
Only when viewed in Windows/Explorer and my application is running
normally.

Note that when I view the properties of individual files (not directories),
they don't show as read only. Perhaps checking the directories is not the
correct approach?

I'm running Windows/XP SP3, btw.


Items on my system are the same as your system--the profile directory 
level indicates Read Only when viewed in Windows Explorer and the 
files listed under the profile are not Read Only.  This fact is true 
for both versions of SeaMonkey.


Frog

Frog
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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Frog

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/2/2010 7:41 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Me, too.

A thorough examination of my system shows that all the /folders/ in my 
profile have gray (not black) checkmarks, which normally indicates that 
some of their contents are read-only and some are not (I suppose it 
could also mean the attribute is not set for these folders). However, 
all the actual /files/ are not read-only. This is with system and hidden 
files and folders revealed.


Still, if the OP wants to clear the read-only attribute quickly and 
easily after copying from a CD, the technique I described is the way to 
go. Fast, easy, painless, guaranteed to work.




Did the OP copy from a CD?


No, no CD was involved.

Frog
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Re: Nail Newsgroup Account Settings (Unanswered Part of this Thread)

2010-03-02 Thread Frog

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 3/2/2010 4:48 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
In Windows Explorer, select the profile directory (the one above 
.slt, where  is a random assortment of numbers and 
letters) and right-click the folder name. One of the options should 
be Properties. Choose that.


The dialog that appears should have checkboxes as follows:

Attributes: [ ] Read-only   [Advanced...]

[ ] Hidden

Click the Read-only check box once to clear it, or more than once 
if necessary, but don't double-click it. Then click the Apply 
button at the bottom. Windows will prompt you, asking whether to 
apply the change only to the folder itself, or to the folder and all 
its contents. Tell it to apply the change to all the contents. After 
a minute of thinking, it should mark each and every file and 
subdirectory within the profile as read-only.


You don't have to go through hundreds or thousands of files one at a 
time by hand.


Just FYI, my top-level SM 1.1.X profile directory also indicates Read
Only when viewed in Windows/Explorer and my application is running
normally.

Note that when I view the properties of individual files (not 
directories),

they don't show as read only. Perhaps checking the directories is not the
correct approach?

I'm running Windows/XP SP3, btw.


Me, too.

A thorough examination of my system shows that all the /folders/ in my 
profile have gray (not black) checkmarks, 


I don't know where you are finding checkmarks.  When looking a the 
properties for a file under x.slt, I see two entries-- Read Only 
and Hidden.  Neither box is checked for the files under the 
xx.slt entry. I did notice one interesting difference between 
1.1.18 and 2.0.3 entries.  The entry for 1.1.18 is g62n48iz.slt and the 
one for 2.0.3 is x1pbu8dh.default.  I had never noticed this difference 
before tonight.


which normally indicates that
some of their contents are read-only and some are not (I suppose it 
could also mean the attribute is not set for these folders). However, 
all the actual /files/ are not read-only. This is with system and hidden 
files and folders revealed.


Still, if the OP wants to clear the read-only attribute quickly and 
easily after copying from a CD, the technique I described is the way to 
go. Fast, easy, painless, guaranteed to work.


See my response to your earlier message--I am not involved with any CDs.

Frog



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