Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) I use SM 2.0.14, the 64bits version what comes with Fedora15, and it works like a champ with Javascript enabled and all images. -- None love the bearer of bad news. -- Sophocles -- Gertjan Vinkesteijn ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Yahoo! e-mail problem
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Jim Dell wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: I am aware of that, of course. Perhaps the user would rather not install a whole new and unfamiliar version of the entire suite, simply to gain access to a site where that manual hack (simple to do) would suffice. Upgrading also gets the user off a security-vulnerable release. It also gets them on our latest, current, stable, build. etc. Many people don't know about the new releases, because they don't read news groups. My cousin, for example, who I converted to SeaMonkey several years ago depends upon the automatic updates. What is the status of the automatic upgrade from 2.0.14 to 2.2? Jim It will probably be superceded by one from 2.0.14 to 2.3 :\ :/ When 2.3 is out yes, but not before we offer the update from 2.0.14-2.2 Well, If the automatic upgrade script from 2.0.14 to 2.2 is stable before the release of 2.3, then I guessed/predicted wrongly. By the way the :\ and :/ are supposed to trigger a display of a wry faced smiley perhaps :-/ or :-\ will work better :-) . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
GerardJan wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) I use SM 2.0.14, the 64bits version what comes with Fedora15, and it works like a champ with Javascript enabled and all images. Well good for you. But mimicking the postings of some true party line proponents here :-) , the politically correct answer is as written above :-) The :/ or :\ were supposed to produce wry faced smileys. Perhaps :-\ or :-/ will do better. I am/was trying to be sarcastic. The forward charge by the bull elephants to introduce new features is all well and good. But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers clean up the field between the charging elephants and us the plodding following mass of users. So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Mr. Gallagher's UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) Others with both earlier and later versions can see it. And I'm not interested in becoming a beta tester. I can live without the NG maps, but not without a workable browser/email program. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Margo Guda wrote: Do you use Noscript, or is there a way to disable javascript for external links? I noticed the map would not display for me (with Noscript enabled) until I granted permission for virtualearth.net. Allowing scripts from that address caused the map to be displayed. No, I don't have NoScript, so I can't enable/disable it. As noted previously, I have no sites listed for image blocking/allowing, so that isn't a factor. Even so, have added virtualearth.net as explicitly allowed. There seems to be no shortage of cookies from nationalgeographic.com and maps.nationalgeographic.com, so that's not it. Firewall log shows nothing blocked since Tuesday, so that's not it. Will report back after restarting and clearing browser cache. OK, no change. Error console reports: Warning: Error in parsing value for 'width'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/css/style.css Line: 600 Warning: Selector expected. Ruleset ignored due to bad selector. Source File: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/css/widgets.css Line: 259 Warning: Expected end of value but found 'width'. Error in parsing value for 'float'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/css/widgets.css Line: 358 Warning: Selector expected. Ruleset ignored due to bad selector. Source File: http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/sites/themes/global/c/screen.css Line: 68 Warning: Error in parsing value for 'font'. Declaration dropped. Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/css/virtualearth.css Line: 16 Warning: Unexpected end of file while searching for end of comment. Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/css/virtualearth.css Line: 311 Error: VEMap is not defined Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js Line: 89 Error: [Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [nsISafeOutputStream.finish] nsresult: 0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) location: JS frame :: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SeaMonkey/components/nsSessionStore.js :: sss_writeFile :: line 2668 data: no] Source File: file:///C:/Program%20Files/SeaMonkey/components/nsSessionStore.js Line: 2668 Is any of this me? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Error: VEMap is not defined Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js Line: 89 Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection? -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: GerardJan wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 6:20 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 12:28 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Example: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/maps/map-machine#s=rc=-56.09018578602696,%20-34.39591415226459z=4 The map pane is blank but the rest of the page displays fine. Internet Exploiter 8 shows the map normally, including the Bing label, in case that's any help. TIA This requires: JavaScript: Enabled Images: Load all images You indicate you already have enabled JavaScript. To check your image preference, go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Images]. Sorry: Specify how SeaMonkey handles images: Accept all images Animated images should loop: As many times as the image specifies Manage image permissions: (no sites listed) Any other ideas? No other ideas. I tried the site with both JavaScript disabled and only loading images that come from the originating server. I could not get the map. Then I tried with JavaScript enabled but still only loading images that come from the originating server. I still could not get the map. Then I reversed the settings with JavaScript disabled but accepting all images. I still could not get the map. Only when both JavaScript was enabled and I accepted all images did I get the map. By the way, I disabled the automatic spoofing of Firefox. Thus, this is not a case of invald sniffing. Mr. Gallaghers' UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) I use SM 2.0.14, the 64bits version what comes with Fedora15, and it works like a champ with Javascript enabled and all images. Well good for you. But mimicking the postings of some true party line proponents here :-) , the politically correct answer is as written above :-) The :/ or :\ were supposed to produce wry faced smileys. Perhaps :-\ or :-/ will do better. I am/was trying to be sarcastic. FWIW, Instructing to latest stable is well and good, but I do avoid it when the issue is likely something else. In this case people on 2.2, 2.1, and 2.0.14 experienced the site working fine, which implied the issue was something else. Figuring out what was different between OPs system and all us other users where it worked fine was what would help in that case, not a blind update. Also Unless the issue is ABSOLUTELY required, I won't instruct a user to upgrade to any beta/release-candidate/alpha/whatever. I'll happily accept and recommend people who care heavily about our direction/wish to test to go on those, and advocate that our beta's are relatively stable, but see no big need to suggest it. *IF* there was a fix on a beta that is not on a stable release, I'll mention it, but along with a workaround if there is one. -- ~Justin Wood, (Callek), SeaMonkey Council Member. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Error: VEMap is not defined Source File: http://maps.nationalgeographic.com/map-machine/js/virtualearth-2.js Line: 89 Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection? I doubt that's the problem. For one thing, another user in this thread reported the same error, but he could view the map. For another, my FiOS connection generally supports downloads of 25 MB or so per minute. I routinely download 400-500 MB movie clips in 15-20 minutes without error. Since I have this trouble but others with the same version of SM do not, it seems unlikely to be a problem with the site and is more likely an issue with my settings, corruption of some configuration or program file, etc. I do use AdBlock Plus, so I tried disabling it -- first for the site alone, then globally -- and reloading the page, but it didn't help. ABP reports blocking over a hundred items on this page, but unblocking them didn't reveal the map. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Sounds like the js was not downloaded correctly, try shift+reload on the page. Perhaps you have a slow internet connection? I doubt that's the problem. For one thing, another user in this thread reported the same error, but he could view the map. For another, my FiOS connection generally supports downloads of 25 MB or so per minute. I routinely download 400-500 MB movie clips in 15-20 minutes without error. Since I have this trouble but others with the same version of SM do not, it seems unlikely to be a problem with the site and is more likely an issue with my settings, corruption of some configuration or program file, etc. I do use AdBlock Plus, so I tried disabling it -- first for the site alone, then globally -- and reloading the page, but it didn't help. ABP reports blocking over a hundred items on this page, but unblocking them didn't reveal the map. Well the idea that VEMap is a variable in the file, on that site, and an error like that will terminate script execution sounds like it *IS* that issue. OK, so how do you account for the visitors who /can/ view the map? Are their copies of SM 2.0.14 magically immune to the error? A corrupt download of the .js file specified could do that too. Try the shift+reload please. Been there, done that. Several times. I've visited the site probably 20 times since we've been discussing this -- what do you think are the chances that each and every time, this particular js file was corrupted in transit? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: JeffM wrote: Hmmm. I've already used this analogy once today (elsewhere). Sometimes it only takes ONE individual to affect a change: http://google.com/search?tbs=dfn:1q=hung-jury OK, so if I dedicate my life to making sure everyone knows that it's Effect change, not Affect change, I can make a difference? Or is it just that the world could(n't) care less? ;-) I thought you could *effect* change to *affect* the result!! -- Daniel with just 143 messages to read in moz.general ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question: How to set SM for Mail, but FF for Browser?
FF Preferences Advanced System settings... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
1.1.18 to 2.2
Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 . I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7. I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot of the times. I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade. How do I make sure this happens. And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information as simple as possible so I can digest it right now. Thanks for any and all help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2
Richard Lee Holbert wrote: Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 . I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7. I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot of the times. I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade. How do I make sure this happens. And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information as simple as possible so I can digest it right now. Thanks for any and all help. From one stroke sufferer to another (15 years ago) Richard, a while ago, I made the move from SM 1.1.17 (I think) to SM 2.0. I installed 2.0 into a separate location and, as part of the installation process, it found the SM 1 profile and did some conversion to produce the SM 2 profile...Note the SM 1 profile was left alone. Further upgrades through to SM 2.0.14 happened automatically and I'm waiting for the newly produced SM 2.2 to make the upgrade process automatic, as well. I *think* if you installed SM 2.2 it would find the SM 1 profile and do the conversion, but it might be safer if you installed SM 2 just for the conversion. Other more knowledgeable people will drop by with their opinions. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question: How to set SM for Mail, but FF for Browser?
chokito wrote: FF Preferences Advanced System settings... Do I have to restart each application? Just set FF as Default browser in Fx Preferences Advanced System Defaults and links in SeaMonkey mail still open with the SeaMonkey browser. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2
Interviewed by CNN on 21/07/2011 10:29, Richard Lee Holbert told the world: Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 . I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7. I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot of the times. I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade. How do I make sure this happens. The best way PROBABLY is to FIRST upgrade to the latest update of 2.0 (that would be 2.0.14, I think). That will automatically *copy* your profile to a new location (your old 1.1.18 profile will remain unaffected). Note that you SHOULD NOT install Seamonkey 2.x in the same location you have Seamonkey 1.1.18 currently. I think the default install locations won't attempt to do it anyway, but you shouldn't force the issue. You can then upgrade from 2.0 to 2.2 (or later) in the normal way. why not do it in one step? Well, you could, but later versions of Seamonkey are unable to import some minor stuff from the old profile -- I think the only thing lost is the download history. Since you said you want to keep ALL the info, the two-step process is better. Note that many (most?) of your add-ons will probably stop working, and you will have to either upgrade to a later, SM-2.X compatible version, or to find a suitable replacement. I should mention that back when Seamonkey 2 was originally offered, some people had minor problems with upgrading. I don't recall exactl -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my wrist radio. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2
Interviewed by CNN on 21/07/2011 11:09, MCBastos told the world: I should mention that back when Seamonkey 2 was originally offered, some people had minor problems with upgrading. I don't recall exactl Got interrupted here... well, one issue I do remember is that if you uninstall Seamonkey 1.1.x AFTER installing 2.0, it might take your application icons and such with you. Reinstalling 2.0 usually solves the problem. Alternately, you might want to uninstall Seamonkey 1.1.18 BEFORE installing 2.0. This WON'T damage your profile. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my table at Ten Forward. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Automatic Upgrade 2.0.14 to 2.2?
Currently on 2.0.14 on XP SP3. Used to get automatic upgrades through the 2.0.x series. Did I miss these for 2.1 and then 2.2? Or is that still to come? (There are some concerns about the new series, but have a feeling that there is a runaway train and I've missed it.) Larry ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
mail.ui.display.dateformat.today / Show date of todays mails
Hi, Users here sometimes have to print messages and like to have the full date shown, even if messages are from today. Is there a way to achieve this or an addon? Setting mail.ui.display.dateformat.today and system settings like described in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format didn't work here. Regards, Gerd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question: How to set SM for Mail, but FF for Browser?
chokito wrote: FF Preferences Advanced System settings... I think that the problem in inside SM who still start the SM browser when double-clicking a link in an SM mail. You may change what you want in FF, if SM still want to start SM browser he will do it anyway. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2
Richard Lee Holbert wrote: Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 . I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7. I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot of the times. I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade. How do I make sure this happens. And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information as simple as possible so I can digest it right now. Thanks for any and all help. If you have a lot of stuff to transfer it can take a long time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2
Richard Lee Holbert wrote: Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 . I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7. I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot of the times. I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade. How do I make sure this happens. And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information as simple as possible so I can digest it right now. Thanks for any and all help. If you have a lot of stuff to transfer it can take a long time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: mail.ui.display.dateformat.today / Show date of todays mails
seam...@taz.de wrote: Hi, Users here sometimes have to print messages and like to have the full date shown, even if messages are from today. Is there a way to achieve this or an addon? Setting mail.ui.display.dateformat.today and system settings like described in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format didn't work here. Regards, Gerd Look under File/Print Set-up/Margins, headers, and footersand select the options that best fit your printing requirements. If you select the Date for headers or footers you have the options to place the date left justified, center, and right justified when you print a mail message, or a web page. Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Mr. Gallagher's UA string indicates SM 2.0.14 So the politically correct answer is that he's on an obsolete, superceded version. Instruct him to install the pre-release 2.3 beta. :/ :\ Perhaps, perhaps, that will help. :) Others with both earlier and later versions can see it. And I'm not interested in becoming a beta tester. I can live without the NG maps, but not without a workable browser/email program. That does not change the 'politically correct' advice to be given, in reply to your given in reply to your problem . :-\ I am only poking at the party line. :-\ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Enable/Disable Java using Preferences
NoOp wrote: On 07/20/2011 11:23 AM, Dick Hoffman wrote: NoOp wrote: ... I tracked it back to this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506985 [Bug 506985 - remove java-specific preferences from Firefox UI, hidden prefs ] Looks like the option to disable/enable java was removed in Firefox 3.6 forward. And the Firefox solution: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/How%20to%20turn%20off%20Java%20applets Use the addons manager. My wife points out this change has further security implications depending on how it was implemented. Did the update that changed the Enable/Disable of Java to the Add-ons Manager take into consideration the user's current preference setting or did it take a default and, if so, was the default Enable or Disable? If it took a default of Enable there could be other chumps like me out there thinking they've got Java disabled when they really don't. Dick I wouldn't argue about the security implications... but yes the default is set to enable (I turn off/on using Prefbar). I reckon that is the reason for the other bug reports; meaning they plan to remove the option to turn off/on altogether in the Preferences UI on SeaMonkey. This is one area that I think that SeaMonkey should stick to their guns and leave the Preferences option to turn Java on/off in *and* ensure that it works properly. Slight added note: if you reference a bug report it is helpful to include the url to the bug report rather than simply referring to it by number. This way, folks not familar with bugzilla can easily click on the link to review/comment. So your report is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672665 and the bug that your bug was duped to: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512378 Which btw IMO isn't resolved/fixed as it apparently doesn't work in SM 2.1 or 2.2 that indeed can be a security issue. You might want to add your comments there. OK, I added some verbage to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512378 for whatever impact they'll have. Thanks for your comment re including the URL of the bug for folks' ease of access. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't Enable/Disable Java using Preferences
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/20/11 4:54 PM, NoOp wrote: On 07/20/2011 11:23 AM, Dick Hoffman wrote: NoOp wrote: ... I tracked it back to this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506985 [Bug 506985 - remove java-specific preferences from Firefox UI, hidden prefs ] Looks like the option to disable/enable java was removed in Firefox 3.6 forward. And the Firefox solution: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/How%20to%20turn%20off%20Java%20applets Use the addons manager. My wife points out this change has further security implications depending on how it was implemented. Did the update that changed the Enable/Disable of Java to the Add-ons Manager take into consideration the user's current preference setting or did it take a default and, if so, was the default Enable or Disable? If it took a default of Enable there could be other chumps like me out there thinking they've got Java disabled when they really don't. Dick I wouldn't argue about the security implications... but yes the default is set to enable (I turn off/on using Prefbar). I reckon that is the reason for the other bug reports; meaning they plan to remove the option to turn off/on altogether in the Preferences UI on SeaMonkey. This is one area that I think that SeaMonkey should stick to their guns and leave the Preferences option to turn Java on/off in *and* ensure that it works properly. Slight added note: if you reference a bug report it is helpful to include the url to the bug report rather than simply referring to it by number. This way, folks not familar with bugzilla can easily click on the link to review/comment. So your report is: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672665 and the bug that your bug was duped to: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512378 Which btw IMO isn't resolved/fixed as it apparently doesn't work in SM 2.1 or 2.2 that indeed can be a security issue. You might want to add your comments there. This is very confusing, but I think I now understand what is happening. The following applies to SeaMonkey at least through version 2.2. It appears that the Java checkbox at [Edit Preference Advanced] and the Java checkbox in PrefBar both modify the preference variable security.enable_java. However, changing the checkmark at [Edit Preference Advanced] does not change the checkmark in PrefBar; but changing the checkmark in PrefBar does change the checkmark at [Edit Preference Advanced]. Changing it at either place, does change security.enable_java. Toggling security.enable_java via about:config does show the changes at [Edit Preference Advanced] but not in PrefBar. Thus, there is an error in PrefBar in how it displays the current state of security.enable_java. This is a display problem and not a problem with using PrefBar to toggle security.enable_java. In any case, if security.enable_java is false or true, Java is disabled or enabled. It is not yet necessary to use the Add-ons Manager. The elimination of the use of security.enable_java to control Java will likely be implemented in SeaMonkey 2.3 or shortly thereafter, when the Add-on Manager will become the only way to disable or enable Java. My finding was that the state of security.enable_java has no impact on the execution status of Java in SM 2.1 or 2.2. That only via the AOM can Java be enabled or disabled, which seems to be what the bugzilla reports are saying. I didn't play with the settings directly in prefs.js or via about:config so I may be wrong. Anyway, we've probably spent enough time on this. Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: The forward charge by the bull elephants to introduce new features is all well and good. But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers clean up the field between the charging elephants and us the plodding following mass of users. So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo. While you're at it, don't forget the unicorns and flying monkeys. The trick here is to get your notion to dovetail with the Scratching an itch meme. Humans tend to not like doing stuff they see as unglamorous. Cleaning up the detritus left by previous occupants tends to come under that heading. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
performance hit (Mac)?
Has anybody else noticed a performance hit with the 2.1/2.2 releases? On my Mac, I find that the newer releases spend considerably more time waiting on connections, and displaying spinning beachballs - and freezing everything else on my machine while doing so. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. Infnord practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: National Geographic: Why can't I see their maps?
JeffM wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: The forward charge by the bull elephants to introduce new features is all well and good. But I'd like to see an army with brooms and pooper scoopers clean up the field between the charging elephants and us the plodding following mass of users. So that we can follow without stepping as much into doo-doo. While you're at it, don't forget the unicorns and flying monkeys. I didn't forget, I just didn't see how to fit them into the picture :-) The trick here is to get your notion to dovetail with the Scratching an itch meme. It's a trick all right. One I haven't managed to so far. Humans tend to not like doing stuff they see as unglamorous. Cleaning up the detritus left by previous occupants tends to come under that heading. That's an eternal truth, like the notion of motherhood and cherry pie. I just needed to vent! in hopes of influencing the unchangeable. :-) (And I know that this is now off topic and in a wrong forum) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
this is what i hink ...
... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest a way to implement their solution code. ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! -- b MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME 'I WAS NOTHING SPECIAL... pause SHE WAS WRONG!!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: performance hit (Mac)?
Miles Fidelman wrote: Has anybody else noticed a performance hit with the 2.1/2.2 releases? On my Mac, I find that the newer releases spend considerably more time waiting on connections, and displaying spinning beachballs - and freezing everything else on my machine while doing so. I noticed that as well when I tried them out. 2.2 wouldn't even display graphics in email. was set to allow. But it wiped out all plugins that would handle the graphics so I went back to 2.0.19 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: this is what i hink ...
On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following: ... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest a way to implement their solution code. ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! Save the Flying Unicorns? -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ English is the key to full participation in the opportunities of American Life. -S. I. Hayakawa ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: this is what i hink ...
W3BNR wrote: On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following: ... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest a way to implement their solution code. ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! Save the Flying Unicorns? No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups -- Stan Gondek Multi Path Communications http://www.m-p-c.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 1.1.18 to 2.2
Yes sir, I got a bunch of stuff Rob Steinmetz wrote: Richard Lee Holbert wrote: Ok, I have downloaded ( but not installed yet ) 2.2 . I am currently runnin 1.1.18 on Win 7. I wish to upgrade but since my stroke my brain does not work great alot of the times. I wish to keep ALL my info from 1.1.18 when I upgrade. How do I make sure this happens. And please, like I said above because of my stroke, make the information as simple as possible so I can digest it right now. Thanks for any and all help. If you have a lot of stuff to transfer it can take a long time. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: this is what i hink ...
On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM, km wrote: ... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest a way to implement their solution code. ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! I'm not sure if your vitriol was meant against us Developers/People who do code/work on SeaMonkey in our free time. Or if it was against the users who constantly post here with suggestions about the software they choose to use for their daily lives, but have no coding knowledge. Either way, PLEASE take this sort of comments elsewhere, they are unwelcome on these newsgroups. (I for one, do NOT expect every suggestion/user/complaint to be accompanied by code in any form; while those who can help by coding their thoughts are certainly more likely to have their solution in SeaMonkey earlier, that is mostly due to time constraints on us few who do the work.) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: this is what i hink ...
stango wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following: ... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest a way to implement their solution code. ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! Save the Flying Unicorns? No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups I think it actually meant Shut the ^%* Up -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: this is what i hink ...
Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:48:29 -0400, /PhillipJones/: stango wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following: ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! Save the Flying Unicorns? No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups I think it actually meant Shut the ^%* Up Or may be: Say, Thanks for Understanding. http://www.acronymfinder.com/STFU.html -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
opensaml::BindingException
Hi, When opening my ISP homepage in SM 2.2 with windows vista- http://www.optuszoo.com.au I get error message every time: opensaml::BindingException at (http://www.optuszoo.com.au/Shibboleth.sso/SAML2/Artifact). My other 4 profiles show same error. this is the only page this error occurs.It never happened with previous versions including SM 2.1. Firefox 5 opens this page with no problems. Anyone gets the same error? or my upgrade got corrupt, Thanks BL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: this is what i hink ...
stango wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 7/21/2011 6:15 PM km submitted the following: ... it is gud for people to make comments abt what needs to be fixed with 'sm' BUTT these same people should suggest a way to implement their solution code. ... if you are NOT technical you should STFU! Save the Flying Unicorns? No, I think he meant Send The Fix Ups Still, that's f***ed up... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
