Re: SM Checking servers in background?

2012-01-31 Thread Rufus 

Rufus wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/30/2012 05:51 PM, Rufus wrote:

Does SM check servers in the background without informing the user?






I was thinking more in terms of just plain house-keeping - like a mail
server or network ping or something.

I have my cookies clamped down pretty tight, and the behavior seems to
occur truely at random - I can't pin it to a specific site or Browser vs
Mail/News activity. All of my add-ons are things like No-Script,
Ghostery, HTTPS Everywhere, etc. but this happens with or without them
enabled.

...and I've turned off all SM updates checks here in my 2.0.14 install
and it just happened again this session as I was typing this.

I expect the same in my 2.6.1 install (since I've the same there, but
not with all SM auto-updating turned off - probably will before I turn
in tonight), but I need to watch and observe it some more yet. And I
haven't opted-in for any of the location aware features either.

I'll submit a formal bug after I've used 2.6.1 and up a week or so
more...this used to work in previous versions and got broken somewhere.



...well, as I predicted it just happened with all updating shut off in 
my 2.6.1 install.  I'll let it happen a few more times, then I'll write 
a formal bug.  I can't think of anything overt that could be going on to 
cause the call for my Master.


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Re: SM Checking servers in background?

2012-01-31 Thread Rufus 

NoOp wrote:

On 01/30/2012 05:51 PM, Rufus wrote:

Does SM check servers in the background without informing the user?






I was thinking more in terms of just plain house-keeping - like a mail 
server or network ping or something.


I have my cookies clamped down pretty tight, and the behavior seems to 
occur truely at random - I can't pin it to a specific site or Browser vs 
Mail/News activity.  All of my add-ons are things like No-Script, 
Ghostery, HTTPS Everywhere, etc. but this happens with or without them 
enabled.


...and I've turned off all SM updates checks here in my 2.0.14 install 
and it just happened again this session as I was typing this.


I expect the same in my 2.6.1 install (since I've the same there, but 
not with all SM auto-updating turned off - probably will before I turn 
in tonight), but I need to watch and observe it some more yet.  And I 
haven't opted-in for any of the location aware features either.


I'll submit a formal bug after I've used 2.6.1 and up a week or so 
more...this used to work in previous versions and got broken somewhere.


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Re: mail trouble ...

2012-01-31 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 

km wrote:

... i used to use a comcast mail server. it broke so i switched to a
 Gmail accnt. I want to be sure i am getting all my old mail. people
know me on comcast. i want to set a forward from my SM mail to my
Gmail. how???


Why don't you get Comcast to fix their mail server? Seems a lot easier.

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Re: SM Checking servers in background?

2012-01-31 Thread NoOp 
On 01/30/2012 05:51 PM, Rufus wrote:
> Does SM check servers in the background without informing the user?



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Re: POP3 mail server crash only in Windows XP

2012-01-31 Thread NoOp 
On 01/30/2012 07:39 PM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
> I only spot-check the threads here, so I apologize in advance if this 
> issue has already been discussed.
> 
> I  have SeaMonkey version 2.6.1 installed on my Windows XP Professional 
> desktop as well as on my Window 7 Home laptop. Yesterday, Seamonkey mail 
> crashed in Windows XP, generated a crash report yesterday, and I had to 
> reboot several times before even the SeaMonkey browser opened again. 
> Incoming mails now generate an unknown POP3 server error, which has 
> prevented incoming emails since around noon (EST) today.  Meanwhile, so 
> such problem exists in the Windows 7 laptop.

It's helpful if you provide the crash report URI:
about:crashes
  click on the latest one & then supply the URI
See: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Breakpad for more information. Also be
sure to read/understand:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/legal/privacy
[in particular starting at: Interactive Product Features]
Note: nothing nefarious there, but you should read & understand the
privacy info. Sample from one of my crash reports:



> 
> I uninstalled SeaMonkey 2.6.1 and reinstalled it to not effect. then 
> tried 2.5 which made no difference. The only thing I haven't done is 
> uninstall and remove all traces of SeaMonkey from REGEDIT.  I am NOT 
> going to install Windows 7 on my "trusty work-horse" Windows XP computer 
> for the obvious reason. Does anyone here have any clues as to how I can 
> get incoming POP3 mails again?

Uninstalling will not remove the user profile (for good reason). I
suspect that you've a corrupted user profile; this is the reason why it
also crashes with 2.5. Easy ways to test is to:

1. Restart with no addons enabled to see if an addon is an issue:
Help|Restart with Add-ons Disabled

If that doesn't work, then create a clean test profile:

2. Create a test profile and see if that crashes. Back up your existing
profile first, then Tools|Switch Profiles - that will bring up the
profile manager. You can then click 'Manage Profiles' and 'Create
Profile' to create a "test" profile. You can then switch to the "test"
profile and see if SM still crashes. I doubt that it will & if it does
you do indeed have a system problem. If it doesn't (that's my bet) then
you have a profile issue.
 You can add one of your POP3 accounts to the test profile (just be sure
to 'leave mail on server' in server setting so that you don't
accidentally download all of your message & in the process delete them
from the server.
  You can go back and remove the msf files in your mail folder.

In any event, don't go messing about in the Windows registry unless you
really know what you are doing.
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mail trouble ...

2012-01-31 Thread km 
... i used to use a comcast mail server. it broke so i switched to a 
Gmail accnt. I want to be sure i am getting all my old mail. people know

me on comcast. i want to set a forward from my SM mail to my Gmail. how???

km

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Re: SM Checking servers in background?

2012-01-31 Thread Rufus 
The thing that's curious to me is that on my home LAN I don't need to 
authenticate for mail server or net access - I figure my ISP controls 
using my modem MAC address.  So I can't figure why SM would be looking 
for my Master because of "need".


...it's just done it again while I'm typing this...but I'll try your 
suggestion and monitor.


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Paul Bergsagel wrote:

One thing SeaMonkey checks for in the background is updates to
SeaMonkey. I'm not sure if this is the only reason SeaMonkey may be
connecting to servers in the background.

You can, if you want, turn off SeaMonkey's ability to check for software
updates for Add-ons and SeaMonkey updates. and see if SeaMonkey still
contacts servers in the background. To do this go to Preferences in the
menu bar and click on "Advanced->Software Installation" and uncheck all
the items.

Rufus wrote:

Does SM check servers in the background without informing the user?

Under SM 2.0.14 Mac I get asked for my Master Password on a seemingly
random interval into the session even though I have the Preference set
to ask only the first time it is required. This used to work just fine
up until about SM 1.1.14 or 1.1.16 or thereabouts, as I recall.

SM 2.6.1 Mac is doing the same thing, and I had sort of expected it not
to - i.e.; to do as I select. Doesn't matter if I never open Mail/News
or never navigate to a page that requires a password - at sometime into
the session it will ask for my Master.

Under 2.0.14 when this happens during a download SM freezes and a Force
Quit and relaunch are required to get going again - thus losing any
information from the previous session, and the download. I expect the
same for 2.6.1, but I haven't been using 2.6.1 long enough to see this
occur yet.

I thought I had written a bug on this before, but search shows I
haven't. Is SM doing something required in the background that I'm
unaware of? If so I won't write a formal bug.

BTW - I've done a virus scans of my systems and I'm clean on all of them.




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Cannot Change Cache Folder

2012-01-31 Thread johny why 

hi

running seamonkey email on puppy linux 5.2.8 lucid.

when i try to change the email cache folder to a non-default folder, on 
some accounts, it does not work-- the field still displays the /root 
cache folder after i browse to my alternate folder.


i noticed this also affects the "local folder" in newsgroups.

but, it works fine on other accounts (same seamonkey installation).

what should i do?

i've set up the alternate cache folder on other installs of seamonkey 
email on puppy in the past with no problem.


thanks!
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Changing message title font size?

2012-01-31 Thread Richard Lane 

How do I change the mail message title font size in 2.6.1?
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Re: Newsgroup no longer in Google Groups?

2012-01-31 Thread Axel Grude 

On 31/01/12 00:00, WLS wrote:

On 01/30/2012 06:43 PM, Axel Grude wrote:

On 23/01/12 16:20, WLS wrote:

On 01/23/2012 10:54 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12-01-23 7:28 AM, _Daniel_ spoke thusly:


Jay, I seem to remember some time ago (months), these groups were being
spammed from Google Groups with posts to old threads advertising
"freelance writer".

These posts seem to have stopped (for how long??), so could this be a
result of the "fix"??


It's a result of me removing them before you see them. :)




Thank you!

I can delete my filters, and clear the filter logs now?


how do you filter newsgroups? I thought you cannot delete any messages
(iam using thunderbird for newsgroups)... sorry for the newbie question..



The Creating Message Filters section of SeaMonkey Help (F1) also applies
to newsgroups, and Thunderbird.

To manually delete messages from newsgroups, change this pref in
about:config to true.

news.allow_delete_with_no_undo;false


thanks, that seems like a cool little setting ! :)
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Re: Question About Uninvited Transmissions While Viewing Newspaper On Line

2012-01-31 Thread Axel Grude 

On 28/01/12 01:31, Mort wrote:

Hi,

Having lived in a Western European country for 5 years, I often read two of its 
main
newspapers on line. My bottom tool bar usually shows text related to the 
newspaper.
However, this evening, I noticed two tool bar texts that upset me:

Transferring data from Facebook

Reading Google analytics.

Am I being monitored and infiltrated while viewing the newspapers? That is 
certainly
unsettling.

I use an antivirus program, Windows firewall and Defender, and an antispyware 
program.
My net connection is via cable.

Any comments and suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards,

Morton Linder
USA

install noscript. then only allow whats necessary to read the news (trial and 
error)
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Re: SM Checking servers in background?

2012-01-31 Thread Paul Bergsagel 
One thing SeaMonkey checks for in the background is updates to 
SeaMonkey. I'm not sure if this is the only reason SeaMonkey may be 
connecting to servers in the background.


You can, if you want, turn off SeaMonkey's ability to check for software 
updates for Add-ons and SeaMonkey updates.  and see if SeaMonkey still 
contacts servers in the background. To do this go to Preferences in the 
menu bar and click on "Advanced->Software Installation" and uncheck all 
the items.


Rufus wrote:

Does SM check servers in the background without informing the user?

Under SM 2.0.14 Mac I get asked for my Master Password on a seemingly
random interval into the session even though I have the Preference set
to ask only the first time it is required. This used to work just fine
up until about SM 1.1.14 or 1.1.16 or thereabouts, as I recall.

SM 2.6.1 Mac is doing the same thing, and I had sort of expected it not
to - i.e.; to do as I select. Doesn't matter if I never open Mail/News
or never navigate to a page that requires a password - at sometime into
the session it will ask for my Master.

Under 2.0.14 when this happens during a download SM freezes and a Force
Quit and relaunch are required to get going again - thus losing any
information from the previous session, and the download. I expect the
same for 2.6.1, but I haven't been using 2.6.1 long enough to see this
occur yet.

I thought I had written a bug on this before, but search shows I
haven't. Is SM doing something required in the background that I'm
unaware of? If so I won't write a formal bug.

BTW - I've done a virus scans of my systems and I'm clean on all of them.



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Re: POP3 mail server crash only in Windows XP

2012-01-31 Thread Robert Gault 

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

I only spot-check the threads here, so I apologize in advance if this issue has
already been discussed.

I have SeaMonkey version 2.6.1 installed on my Windows XP Professional desktop
as well as on my Window 7 Home laptop. Yesterday, Seamonkey mail crashed in
Windows XP, generated a crash report yesterday, and I had to reboot several
times before even the SeaMonkey browser opened again. Incoming mails now
generate an unknown POP3 server error, which has prevented incoming emails since
around noon (EST) today. Meanwhile, so such problem exists in the Windows 7 
laptop.

I uninstalled SeaMonkey 2.6.1 and reinstalled it to not effect. then tried 2.5
which made no difference. The only thing I haven't done is uninstall and remove
all traces of SeaMonkey from REGEDIT. I am NOT going to install Windows 7 on my
"trusty work-horse" Windows XP computer for the obvious reason. Does anyone here
have any clues as to how I can get incoming POP3 mails again?

Thanks,

Marisa


I don't have any problems on a WinXP SP3 Home system using a POP email account. 
To troubleshoot your problem you will need to indicate who supplies your account 
server, ex. pop.att.yahoo.com, and what your server settings are in Mail and 
Newsgroups Account Settings.
You should also indicate if the account uses SSL protection and what Antivirus 
program you are using. Some AV programs require that your email program not use 
protection as the SSL is provided by the AV program.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread NoOp 
On 01/31/2012 09:58 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> David H. Durgee schrieb:
>> When will the official release of 2.7 occur? I am seeing it in the
>> repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1
>> as the current release.
> 
> It will be released some time later today (US time). If that repo does 
> have it, then it's made by someone who doesn't care about our release 
> politics.

Before everyone get's uptight about this - it's a Personal Package
Archive (PPA) and is for development testing & is not for general use:

https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev
[Seamonkey Development]

And yes, Joe builds from the same comm-release. He's asked that I test
the builds; I'm using one now. I'll test that against the standard
Mozilla build to see if there are any issues in the PPA version.

> 
> Just makes me happy I'm not the release manager any more.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

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Re: Save page as (webpage complete) rarely "finishes"

2012-01-31 Thread MableBoyd21 
freelance writer


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread Justin Wood (Callek) 
Robert Kaiser wrote:
> David H. Durgee schrieb:
>> When will the official release of 2.7 occur? I am seeing it in the
>> repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1
>> as the current release.
> 
> It will be released some time later today (US time). If that repo does
> have it, then it's made by someone who doesn't care about our release
> politics.
> 
> Just makes me happy I'm not the release manager any more.

The above is all correct.

I however feel that if a Linux Vendor wants to build/prep a SeaMonkey
release, and gets it out to his users anytime today then we need not
worry too much.

I expect that if there is a delay in the planned release date, barring
any extremely MAJOR chemspill issues that make us hold off at the very
very last minute, we'll have informed you before this day.

The release repo is tagged, the source files we produce are already
built and in ftp.

What I wait on is mirrors to take our files, and to get everything else
lined up to push the website updates live and then update snippets, etc.

SeaMonkey2.7 by the SeaMonkey project will be out in a few hours, if
you're linux distro already carries it, and you trust your distro, by
all means grab that version.

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Re: Doesn't SM trust me?

2012-01-31 Thread ConnerPatrica 
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread Jens Hatlak 

David H. Durgee wrote:

Joe updated to the 2.7 release there 10 hours ago. Given I am still not
seeing that release at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
but still the 2.6.1 release I am wondering if he has "jumped the gun" a
bit and this is still actually a beta or RC as opposed to a release.


I cannot tell for sure what Joe did, but SM 2.7 has been tagged in the 
revision control system on Sunday already:




Given that no other change has been made to the comm-release source 
repository since then and SM 2.7 will be released today, it's probably 
safe to say that this tag actually points to the SM 2.7 source. If Joe 
used that tag to build the package(s) he provides then what he provides 
*is* SM 2.7.


Basically, the release process consists of multiple steps. The above 
mentioned tagging is a prerequisite before final packages can be built, 
but even when all packages are available they won't trigger website 
updates automatically. That's a manual process, usually prepared by me 
(done yesterday) and finished by Justin (whenever he gets to it).



I am holding off installing until I know this is the actual release.


Well, it's a matter of trust. The only official SM packages are 
available from seamonkey-project.org (and maybe some locale-dependent 
sites like seamonkey.at for German), *when* they are available. This 
will be some time today (US Eastern time). Any other packages are not 
released by the SM project itself but other vendors (e.g. Linux 
distributors like SuSE, or guys like Joe). Whether you trust them to 
actually ship packages built from the same code base totally depends on 
you. Personally I'd trust the SM project most, Linux distributors 
following, and not such much anyone else. But that's up to you.


HTH

Jens

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread Robert Kaiser 

David H. Durgee schrieb:

When will the official release of 2.7 occur? I am seeing it in the
repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1
as the current release.


It will be released some time later today (US time). If that repo does 
have it, then it's made by someone who doesn't care about our release 
politics.


Just makes me happy I'm not the release manager any more.

Robert Kaiser
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Re: Is search button broken in 2.5?

2012-01-31 Thread WLS 

hawker wrote:

On 12/23/2011 4:42 PM, denewton wrote:

hawker a écrit :

Since upgrading to 2.5 I have noticed that the search button in the
upper right corner no longer works. I press it and nothing happens.
Worked fine in 2.4.x and before. Is this me or is this a universal bug?
Any ideas?

Hawker

Hello,
With the new version 2.61 that is the same problem.
Bertrand


Yes I noticed the bug is still there, darn.
Seems if I use the side bar search then it fixes whatever is wrong.



Works for me in SeaMonkey 2.7 Beta.

SeaMonkey 2.7 is due to be released today.

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Re: Is search button broken in 2.5?

2012-01-31 Thread hawker 

On 12/23/2011 4:42 PM, denewton wrote:

hawker a écrit :

Since upgrading to 2.5 I have noticed that the search button in the
upper right corner no longer works. I press it and nothing happens.
Worked fine in 2.4.x and before. Is this me or is this a universal bug?
Any ideas?

Hawker

Hello,
With the new version 2.61 that is the same problem.
Bertrand


Yes I noticed the bug is still there, darn.
Seems if I use the side bar search then it fixes whatever is wrong.
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Re: forwarding mail ...

2012-01-31 Thread hawker 

On 1/30/2012 8:49 PM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 30/01/2012 18:10, Ray Davison told the world:

hawker wrote:


You should be able to get around that problem by switching your SMTP
port to 587 from the default port 25.


587 does not work at home.  So even if it worked at some hot spots, it
would probably not work at others, so editing the profile to change
ports is far less practical than sending thru Gmail.


Uh? Your ISP is blocking port 587? Man, what maroons... this is supposed
to be the new default port for sending messages from user-agents. The
relevant RFC is more than ten years old...




My guess is it is his router or firewall and not ISP.
If this solution works for him then good enough, but being the geeky 
type I am I would probably find where the port is blocked and fix it 
there. Less hastle and then my mail comes from where people think it does.

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Re: SeaMonkey Mail - Change colors for Messages

2012-01-31 Thread Bob Fleischer 

chicagofan wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

upscope wrote:

Considering moving to SeaMonkey Mail. I have been unable to find how to
change colors of the messages based on New Message, Read Message,and
Important message. I presently use Kmail and set New Messages to Red,
Important Messages to Green and Read Messages to Black.
Only thing I have found is Edit --> Preferences --> Mail& Newsgroups
--> Message Display --> settings for Quoted Messages.

Searching Help File does not revel answer either. I can see where you
can add a tag and change color, but it does not change inbound new
messages to Red as Kmail does.


Is this possible to do what I want without doing each one manually?

Thanks in advance.




Right click on a message, select Tag from the popup, and use the color
you want.
bj



OOPS... sorry... just noticed after sending previous message, you said
not doing it manually. I don't know a group way, but maybe someone else
will.
bj

Tagging can be done automatically--by a filter.

(My SeaMonkey Mail setup does that for me.)

Bob
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread David H. Durgee 

WLS wrote:

On 01/31/2012 09:56 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

WLS wrote:

On 01/31/2012 07:42 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

When will the official release of 2.7 occur?  I am seeing it in the
repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1
as the current release.

Dave



If it is the repository you use, then your distro has created its build,
and it is released for your platform.

Firefox 10, and Thunderbird 10 are in my repository, but SeaMonkey still
shows 2.6.1.


I am running Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition, which is based on the Ubuntu
Natty release.  Unfortunately, for reasons I don't understand, Ubuntu is
not keeping current with SeaMonkey for my release and is still at the
2.0.13 level.  This has lead me to seek an alternative repository,
specifically https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev
which does include current packages for natty.

Joe updated to the 2.7 release there 10 hours ago.  Given I am still not
seeing that release at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
but still the 2.6.1 release I am wondering if he has "jumped the gun" a
bit and this is still actually a beta or RC as opposed to a release.

I am holding off installing until I know this is the actual release.

Dave



One of the disadvantages of using the repositories. If there is nobody
to maintain it, then new versions, and updates don't show up.

I would just download from SeaMonkey, install and update manually. That
way you will always be on the release channel.


But the only x64 build is a contributed build, which indicates 'These 
are unofficial builds and may be configured differently than the 
official SeaMonkey builds. Please read their "readme" files for further 
information.', so I am still not using a "official" build this way. 
Using the repository noted above I am also getting a build that is made 
specifically for my distro.


Dave
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread WLS 
On 01/31/2012 09:56 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
> WLS wrote:
>> On 01/31/2012 07:42 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
>>> When will the official release of 2.7 occur?  I am seeing it in the
>>> repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1
>>> as the current release.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> If it is the repository you use, then your distro has created its build,
>> and it is released for your platform.
>>
>> Firefox 10, and Thunderbird 10 are in my repository, but SeaMonkey still
>> shows 2.6.1.
> 
> I am running Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition, which is based on the Ubuntu
> Natty release.  Unfortunately, for reasons I don't understand, Ubuntu is
> not keeping current with SeaMonkey for my release and is still at the
> 2.0.13 level.  This has lead me to seek an alternative repository,
> specifically https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev
> which does include current packages for natty.
> 
> Joe updated to the 2.7 release there 10 hours ago.  Given I am still not
> seeing that release at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
> but still the 2.6.1 release I am wondering if he has "jumped the gun" a
> bit and this is still actually a beta or RC as opposed to a release.
> 
> I am holding off installing until I know this is the actual release.
> 
> Dave


One of the disadvantages of using the repositories. If there is nobody
to maintain it, then new versions, and updates don't show up.

I would just download from SeaMonkey, install and update manually. That
way you will always be on the release channel.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread David H. Durgee 

WLS wrote:

On 01/31/2012 07:42 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

When will the official release of 2.7 occur?  I am seeing it in the
repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1
as the current release.

Dave



If it is the repository you use, then your distro has created its build,
and it is released for your platform.

Firefox 10, and Thunderbird 10 are in my repository, but SeaMonkey still
shows 2.6.1.


I am running Mint 11 Katya - x64 edition, which is based on the Ubuntu 
Natty release.  Unfortunately, for reasons I don't understand, Ubuntu is 
not keeping current with SeaMonkey for my release and is still at the 
2.0.13 level.  This has lead me to seek an alternative repository, 
specifically https://launchpad.net/~joe-nationnet/+archive/seamonkey-dev

which does include current packages for natty.

Joe updated to the 2.7 release there 10 hours ago.  Given I am still not 
seeing that release at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
but still the 2.6.1 release I am wondering if he has "jumped the gun" a 
bit and this is still actually a beta or RC as opposed to a release.


I am holding off installing until I know this is the actual release.

Dave
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread Philip TAYLOR 



OK, thank you both for the clarification : now understood.
Philip Taylor
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread WLS 
On 01/31/2012 09:09 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> 
> 
> WLS wrote:
> 
>> If it is [in] the repository you use, then your distro has created its
>> build,
>> and it is released for your platform.
>>
>> Firefox 10, and Thunderbird 10 are in my repository, but SeaMonkey still
>> shows 2.6.1.
> 
> Could I ask for a translation of this into non-geek-speak ?  In what
> context would one "use a repository", and what is one's "distro" ?
> 
> As far as I am aware, I have and use neither.  I downloaded Seamonkey
> from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, as I imagine most of us have
> (why on earth would one choose to download it from anything other than
> the authoritative source, and thereby risk infection or worse ?), so
> is http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ either my "repository" or my
> "distro" ?
> 
> Philip Taylor


Sure, a repository is one place Linux users get their software from,
after their Linux distribution adds branding or other features, and
packages it for the user.

The OP is a Linux user, as am I.

My repository is
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.4/, but I
don't have to open my browser, enter that URL and go to it. I just open
my software management application, and am informed when an update is
available, if I have the application installed from the repository.

The one thing most Linux distributions do, is disable the manual update
feature for the applications, while allowing you to still check for and
update add-ons.

I could also go to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, and download the
Linux version, and install manually.

I installed the releases, and update through the repository.

The beta, and nightly builds are installed manually, and updated
manually from Mozilla.

Does that help?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty 

Philip TAYLOR wrote:


WLS wrote:

If it is [in] the repository you use, then your distro has created
its build, and it is released for your platform.

Firefox 10, and Thunderbird 10 are in my repository, but SeaMonkey
still shows 2.6.1.


Could I ask for a translation of this into non-geek-speak ? In what
context would one "use a repository", and what is one's "distro" ?


Those are Linux terms, which is what David is using, and WLS correctly 
interpreted from David's post. David, WLS, and I are all using Linux.


A repository is, in its normal definition, a storehouse - in this case 
of applications and utilities for the Linux distribution (distro for 
short) that it is connected to.


In Ubuntu for example, the repository is known as the Synaptic Package 
Manager. There are probably 30,000 software items in it and avaliable 
for the simple click-to-download-and-install.


See http://distrowatch.com/ for further info.


As far as I am aware, I have and use neither. I downloaded Seamonkey
from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, as I imagine most of us have
(why on earth would one choose to download it from anything other
than the authoritative source, and thereby risk infection or worse
?), so is http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ either my "repository" or
my "distro" ?


You are using Windows XP (Windows 5.1) and since Windows has no 
repositories you should continue to get your versions from the SeaMonkey 
site you have identified.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread Philip TAYLOR 



WLS wrote:


If it is [in] the repository you use, then your distro has created its build,
and it is released for your platform.

Firefox 10, and Thunderbird 10 are in my repository, but SeaMonkey still
shows 2.6.1.


Could I ask for a translation of this into non-geek-speak ?  In what
context would one "use a repository", and what is one's "distro" ?

As far as I am aware, I have and use neither.  I downloaded Seamonkey
from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/, as I imagine most of us have
(why on earth would one choose to download it from anything other than
the authoritative source, and thereby risk infection or worse ?), so
is http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ either my "repository" or my "distro" ?

Philip Taylor
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread WLS 
On 01/31/2012 07:42 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
> When will the official release of 2.7 occur?  I am seeing it in the
> repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1
> as the current release.
> 
> Dave


If it is the repository you use, then your distro has created its build,
and it is released for your platform.

Firefox 10, and Thunderbird 10 are in my repository, but SeaMonkey still
shows 2.6.1.

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SeaMonkey 2.7 release

2012-01-31 Thread David H. Durgee 
When will the official release of 2.7 occur?  I am seeing it in the 
repository I usually use, but the SeaMonkey home page still shows 2.6.1 
as the current release.


Dave
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