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how to install plugin fir me to receive choralia on seamonkey?greg ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: When is "Exit" not an "Exit"??
"When is "Exit" not an "Exit"??" When it's a "Brexit"! -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: IMAP Mail Question
Mason83 wrote: Maybe you could manually move older messages to your Local Folders hierarchy? This is what I do. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.
David E. Ross wrote: The brackets around a URI are specified in Appendix C of RFC 3986. They are especially important when a URI is part of non-HTML text and also when a URI is sufficiently lengthy that it requires more than a single line of text. Yes, I always use when I post links manually (I use plain text composition exclusively). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: It seems more likely to me that at some time earlier in the life of the OP's profile, he had an Adobe program installed, and that SeaMonkey (or perhaps Mozilla or even Netscape) learned about the file type at that time. Even after the Adobe program was uninstalled (or after the profile was transferred to a computer that lacked one), SeaMonkey would still know what it knew about the file type (surely Adobe's uninstaller would leave SeaMonkey's files untouched). Of course, once the computer no longer had an Adobe program, opening such a file from SM would force the program to request guidance, as it did. Paul, I think you are correct. I have been using this profile for A Very Long Time, probably originally on a computer that did have Adobe Reader installed. But I have used Foxit Reader for many years now (and so this SeaMonkey problem has been bugging me for years also...). I am so glad to have gotten it fixed with the help of this group, and you especially. Thank you! -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Ray_Net wrote: Just an idea ... Change PDF type as Adobe Acrobat Document as PDF type as Foxit Reader FDF Document No idea if my idea is a feasable one and if the result will be ok. But perhaps you can modify the ACTION of PDF type as Adobe Acrobat Document to Other .. then choice the foxit-reader .exe. I have it working now. All I had to do was specify Foxit Reader as the viewer for Adobe Acrobat Document. The whole problem was that I was specifying Foxit Reader as the viewer for Foxit Reader FDF Document. It doesn't really matter for me, but I would I change the designation Adobe Acrobat Document in the SeaMonkey Helper Applications list? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
W3BNR wrote: When you installed Foxit Reader did you have Select plugin used to open PDF files in browser checked? I think that's a default check, but I could be wrong. And the other ones during the installation of Set Foxit Reader as the default viewer and Show PDF files in browser. Now I'm out of ideas. Im not sure what I did when I installed Foxit Reader. But I have it working now. All I had to do was specify Foxit Reader as the viewer for Adobe Acrobat Document. The whole problem was that I was specifying Foxit Reader as the viewer for Foxit Reader FDF Document. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Ray_Net wrote: David Wilkinson wrote on 06/12/2014 22:24: Ed Mullen wrote: Edit - Preferences - Browser - Helper Applications. Scroll to PDF. What do you see in the Action column? Click the arrow. Select what you want to have happen. It says Foxit Reader 6.2, Best Reader for ... This is why I cannot understand why this is happening to me. What have you selected ? Always Ask ? No, I have selected Foxit Reader 6.2, Best Reader for But actually, it does not make any difference what I select -- it always just prompts to save the file. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Note also that there may not be only one answer under Helper Applications. Web sites serve pdf files under several MIME types, so you need to specify the desired outcome more than once. For example, I have: Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Document (application/pdf) Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Document (file/unknown) Adobe Acrobat Forms Document (application/vnd.adobe.xfdf) Adobe Acrobat Forms Document (application/vnd.fdf) Adobe Acrobat XML Data Package and I've had to make my choice independently for each of the five. Thanks, that was it, more than one entry, though in my case just both Foxit Reader FDF Document Adobe Acrobat Document I had just set the first one to Foxit Reader, and had never noticed that it said FDF, not PDF. I'm not even sure that Foxit can open FDF files. Now that I have set the first one to open with Foxit Reader it works as I like. Thanks. I can't believe I didn't figure this out for myself, but I didn't. I have never had Adobe Reader installed on this machine, I just did not look in the A's. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Ray_Net wrote: You did not understand what everybody tell you Normally in the right side of the list of helper application (in the ACTION COLUMN ) is a drop-down list with : - Always ask - Save file - Other - etc You must not select Foxit Reader 6.2, Best Reader for YOU MUST select the choice ALWAYS ASK for ACTION. Can you do this ? It is you that does not understand. I do not want SeaMonkey to ask me what to do, I do not want it to ask me where to save, I do not want it to open in a SeaMonkey tab. I want it to open in Foxit Reader without asking me. That is what the option Foxit Reader 6.2, Best Reader for ... should do. The problem was (as you can see form my other response) I was doing it to the wrong category of file. When I applied it to Adobe Acrobat Document, it worked. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Mr. Ed wrote: In Windows - make Foxit Reader (you should really upgrade it to 7.0.3) the default program for .pdf files In SeaMonkey Edit/Preferences/Helper Applications find all references to Foxit PDF Document, except the FDF one, and make the action Use Foxit Reader 7.0. When you click on a pdf file it will be downloaded and opened with out further manipulations of any kind by you. Yes, I know. But for some reason in my SeaMonkey Preferences/Helper Applications list, the .FDF type was referred to as Foxit Reader FDF Document and the .PDF type as Adobe Acrobat Document (which, as you imply, seems unnatural). This I was not expecting, because Adobe Reader has never been installed on this machine. I will look into the Foxit update but my copy does not suggest it when I have it check for updates. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
On Windows 7, I use Foxit Reader as my PDF application, and I want PDF files from the web to open in Foxit Reader (not in a browser tab). But whenever I click on a pgf document in SeaMonkey, I am forced to first download the file. It will not open directly in Foxit Reader. Who is causing this: Seamonkey, Foxit Reader, or Windows? In nay case, how can I fix it? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Ed Mullen wrote: You have to download the pdf before you can display it in Foxit. It gets stored in in a temp folder in your Windows user profile. How else would Foxit be able to display it? I don't think that is it. It would not be asking me to choose a save location in that case. It would just download automatically to the Temp folder. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey always asks to save pdf files
Ed Mullen wrote: Edit - Preferences - Browser - Helper Applications. Scroll to PDF. What do you see in the Action column? Click the arrow. Select what you want to have happen. It says Foxit Reader 6.2, Best Reader for ... This is why I cannot understand why this is happening to me. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amazon Music Importer asks for latest Flash
Ralph Fox wrote: On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 07:26:33 -0500, David Wilkinson wrote: Using SeaMonkey 2.23 I go to the Amazon Cloud Player web site, and try to import some of my music (for which you have to install the Amazon Music Importer). But a popup appears saying A newer version of Adobe Flash Player must be installed and enabled in order to import your music. But I have the latest version of flash (which is 12.0.0.43). What gives? 1. The latest is 12.0.0.44, not 12.0.0.43. 2. A critical vulnerability has been found in 12.0.0.43. Thanks, good to know. I have installed version 12.0.0.44 and I still see the same problem on SeaMonkey. Does anybody else not see this? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: focus not following new window
Rick Merrill wrote: When I open a link in a new window it opens fine, BUT if I touch a key the prior window seems to take over and comes to the top. Is it just me, or is the focus not being switched directly to the 'new window'? Yes, I think I have been seeing this also. SM 2.23 on Windows 7 x64. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amazon Music Importer asks for latest Flash
David Wilkinson wrote: Using SeaMonkey 2.23 I go to the Amazon Cloud Player web site, and try to import some of my music (for which you have to install the Amazon Music Importer). But a popup appears saying A newer version of Adobe Flash Player must be installed and enabled in order to import your music. But I have the latest version of flash (which is 12.0.0.43). What gives? I have been able to install the Amazon Music Importer using a different browser (Chrome). Now if I use the Amazon Cloud Player web interface on Chrome or IE and select Import Your Music then the Amazon Music Importer is started on my machine. I still cannot do this from SeaMonkey (says I do not have latest Flash), but this does not really matter because I can launch it directly on my machine. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Amazon Music Importer asks for latest Flash
Using SeaMonkey 2.23 I go to the Amazon Cloud Player web site, and try to import some of my music (for which you have to install the Amazon Music Importer). But a popup appears saying A newer version of Adobe Flash Player must be installed and enabled in order to import your music. But I have the latest version of flash (which is 12.0.0.43). What gives? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amazon Music Importer asks for latest Flash
David E. Ross wrote: Have you disabled Advertise Firefox compatibility? If so, enable it for Amazon? Thanks for the reply. No, I have not (intentionally) disabled Firefox compatibility. My user-agent string is User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Is that good? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: optional taskbar preview-per-tab.
Jim Taylor wrote: Change browser.taskbar.previews.enable from true to false in about:config. Thanks for this. This was driving me absolutely crazy on my Windows 7 machine. But surely this new optional feature should have been turned off by default? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.21 and Printing
Harvey Gratt wrote: Just noticed something strange. If I click on the Print icon or select Print from the File menu, I cannot print an email or newsgroup post (HP L7680) - the print menu flashes up and disappears. If I select Print Preview, I can print successfully from there. I can also successfully print web pages via the icon or file/print. Anyone else see this behavior? Known issue: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918425 -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Print dialog goes behind mailnews window
In mailnews in SeaMonkey 2.21 on Windows XP, when I go to print a message the print dialog appears momentarily but then disappears. It is still there, but it is behind the mailnews window. I have to minimize the mailnews window or use Alt-Tab to get it back. Does anybody else see this? It doesn't happen in the browser, just mailnews. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Print dialog goes behind mailnews window
Jim Taylor wrote: This is a known problem that is being worked on. Bug 918425 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918425 Thanks Jim! I'm glad it's not just me. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Touch Scrolling on Google Search Results Page
David Wilkinson wrote: I have a Windows tablet (Acer W500) upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8. When I use it as a tablet, I normally use Metro IE, but when I use it with keyboard and mouse I use SeaMonkey as I do on all my machines. When in mouse and keyboard mode, the only thing I use the touch screen for is scrolling. But on the Google Search Results page, this finger scrolling does not work on SeaMonkey. It works fine on Google Chrome or desktop IE. Does anybody else see this? Actually, sometimes it worked and sometimes not. It seems that this is a known issue in Firefox, and in SeaMonkey 2.21 all touch support has been disabled, pending a fix. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Touch Scrolling on Google Search Results Page
I have a Windows tablet (Acer W500) upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8. When I use it as a tablet, I normally use Metro IE, but when I use it with keyboard and mouse I use SeaMonkey as I do on all my machines. When in mouse and keyboard mode, the only thing I use the touch screen for is scrolling. But on the Google Search Results page, this finger scrolling does not work on SeaMonkey. It works fine on Google Chrome or desktop IE. Does anybody else see this? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Loss of ownership after 2.19 upgrade
After upgrading to version 2.19 on a Windows 7 x64 system, my profile was not working properly. I tracked this down to the fact that I had lost ownership (and hence permissions) of prefs.js (and also sessionstore.json, and the safebrowsing folder). All other files/folders in the profile were owned by my Windows account. Has anybody seen this behavior before? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Loss of ownership after 2.19 upgrade
Robert Kaiser wrote: David Wilkinson schrieb: After upgrading to version 2.19 on a Windows 7 x64 system, my profile was not working properly. I tracked this down to the fact that I had lost ownership (and hence permissions) of prefs.js (and also sessionstore.json, and the safebrowsing folder). That's interesting to hear. Who was ownership turned to? I think that when I looked in Advanced Security Settings, it said the owner could not be displayed. But when I went to edit the owner, it was displayed as MachineName\Administrators. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
ViewSourceWith extension on SeaMonkey 2.15
Does anybody else find that the (indispensable!) ViewSourceWith extension does not work on SeaMonkey 2.15? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ViewSourceWith extension on SeaMonkey 2.15
WaltS wrote: Dafzilla ViewSourceWith 0.9.1.1? Have you contacted the extensions developer, and asked him when he is going to update it? The latest version I have is 0.9.3 http://dafizilla.sourceforge.net/viewsourcewith/ But never mind, it seems to be working for me today on SM 2.15. Sorry for the misinformation. I did report this at the ViewSourceWith forum at https://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/dafizilla/viewforum.php?f=3sid=b076bb180eb61245a16c37b4dd7303cf I have posted retraction. But from a previous post (initiated by myself) you can see that the author no longer supports SeaMonkey. Indeed, I have to hack the installer to get it to install. But as of now, it still seems to be working... -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Outlook.com display problem
Microsoft's new outlook.com (hotmail replacement) does not display properly for me in SeaMonkey 2.14. When I go to compose a new message, the labels 'Send', 'Save draft', 'Options' and 'Cancel' are not displayed correctly on the blue menu bar (they are displaced downward). Does anybody else see this? Actually, I only see this problem with my normal profile. With a fresh SeaMonkey profile, it works correctly (but it does not work in safe mode with my normal profile). How would I go about finding out what in my profile is causing this problem? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Jim Taylor wrote: Question: if you were me, would you format it as NTFS? Or just leave well alone and hope I do not want to copy files bigger than 4GB onto it. Good question, and I don't know the answer. Theoretically if you format NTFS and retest and performance is bad you can use the SD Formatter from the SD Association ( https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_3/ ) to format it back to Fat32 for optimal performance, but I have never done it and don't know that it would get it back to the same performance it has now. It might be worth using it to format the poor performing one back to Fat32 and retest to see if it makes a difference. That might give you a hint what you want to do with the new one. Thanks, but I decided just to stick with FAT32. SeaMonkey is working much better with the profile on the new card. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
David Wilkinson wrote: I tested this card on my Windows 7 x64 desktop machine (using an external card reader) and got very similar results: --- CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/ --- * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s] Sequential Read :18.171 MB/s Sequential Write :11.250 MB/s Random Read 512KB :17.789 MB/s Random Write 512KB : 0.356 MB/s Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 3.058 MB/s [ 746.6 IOPS] Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.003 MB/s [ 0.8 IOPS] Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 4.018 MB/s [ 981.0 IOPS] Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.003 MB/s [ 0.8 IOPS] Test : 1000 MB [I: 24.4% (7.3/29.8 GB)] (x5) Date : 2012/06/13 9:28:28 OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64) - So I guess it is the card... After considerable research, I bought a new card: SanDisk 32GB Extreme SDHC Memory Card (SDSDRX3-032G-A21) - 45MB/s and got dramatically better results for the 4KB writes (on my Windows 7 machine): --- CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/ --- * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s] Sequential Read :18.063 MB/s Sequential Write :17.264 MB/s Random Read 512KB :17.653 MB/s Random Write 512KB : 1.591 MB/s Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 2.721 MB/s [ 664.2 IOPS] Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 1.194 MB/s [ 291.6 IOPS] Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 2.422 MB/s [ 591.3 IOPS] Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.928 MB/s [ 226.5 IOPS] Test : 1000 MB [I: 0.0% (0.0/29.7 GB)] (x5) Date : 2012/06/15 13:51:56 OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64) Next step: try it in my Windows 8 tablet and put my SeaMonkey profile on it. Question: if you were me, would you format it as NTFS? Or just leave well alone and hope I do not want to copy files bigger than 4GB onto it. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Jim Taylor wrote: Yes, I think you have found the cause (actually I guess it's the source, the cause is still undetermined) of your performance problem. It would be interesting to test the card on Windows 7 or XP or another machine. In any case it's good to know that CrystalDiskMark runs on Windows 8. I tested this card on my Windows 7 x64 desktop machine (using an external card reader) and got very similar results: --- CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/ --- * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s] Sequential Read :18.171 MB/s Sequential Write :11.250 MB/s Random Read 512KB :17.789 MB/s Random Write 512KB : 0.356 MB/s Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 3.058 MB/s [ 746.6 IOPS] Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.003 MB/s [ 0.8 IOPS] Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 4.018 MB/s [ 981.0 IOPS] Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.003 MB/s [ 0.8 IOPS] Test : 1000 MB [I: 24.4% (7.3/29.8 GB)] (x5) Date : 2012/06/13 9:28:28 OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64) - So I guess it is the card... I have a couple of 8GB cards around somewhere, and if I can find them I will test them also. Thanks for telling me about CrystalDiskMark! -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Jim Taylor wrote: I'm certainly no expert but suspect that disk speed may be a major issue. SeaMonkeys cache is in the profile along with cookies, history, bookmarks and all the other sqlite databases so it's going to be reading and writing it frequently. The advertized write speed for that card is 20MB/s and that is probably for sequential writes of the optimal size so you are probably not getting anything close to that. At best it will be 5 times slower than you SDD and may be considerably more than that. Also running a release preview the drivers may not be fully optimized yet. I suggest downloading CrystalDiskMark (if it will run on Windows 8) and run it on the SD card and the SDD drive and compare the random read and write speeds. You could also try moving the cache back to the SDD drive to see if that makes a difference(Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Cache Folder Location) Hi Jim: So I finally got around to downloading CrystalDiskMark and testing my card. These are the results: Sequential Read : 16.70 MB/s Sequential Write : 11.37 MB/s Random Read 512KB : 16.41 MB/s Random Write 512KB : 0.433 MB/s Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 2.588 MB/s Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.003 MB/s Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 3.456 MB/s Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.004 MB/s Clearly, the 4KB writes are extremely slow. It is possible that this poor performance is due to Windows 8 rather than the card itself? In any case, the poor write performance is probably the cause of the SeaMonkey slowdown. I also noticed that when I copied the profile onto the card across my network it took a very long time (which I had assumed was because I did it via wireless...). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Michael Gordon wrote: The only conclusion I can come up with after reading your two comments is the path name is not the dame on your tablet. You say the D\ drive is on the SD card, that is not the same path as D:\ Your path name may be something like: F:\D:\ Where F: is the name of your SD card (Kingston) Aside from that it may be a Windows 8 thing, I don't know for sure. I meant D:\ in both cases. Believe me, the directory structure is the same on all my machines. And the copied profile works correctly on my tablet, just very slowly. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Michael Gordon wrote: I suggest you look at your own, working, profile folder. With a text editor open and read (only) your Prefs.js file. Look for entries that display a specific path name on your computer. Those paths may not exist on your tablet, that is why installing SM on the memory stick may resolve your problem. Installing SM on the memory stick forces SM to create a default profile referencing files on the memory stick. I will check my profile, but actually this precisely is why I have my profile in the same location (D:\Mozilla\SM-2 Profiles) on all my machines. I have copied this profile between many machines (XP and Win7) without problems. I also see this slowdown with a new profile created on my SD card. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Jim Taylor wrote: I'm certainly no expert but suspect that disk speed may be a major issue. SeaMonkeys cache is in the profile along with cookies, history, bookmarks and all the other sqlite databases so it's going to be reading and writing it frequently. The advertized write speed for that card is 20MB/s and that is probably for sequential writes of the optimal size so you are probably not getting anything close to that. At best it will be 5 times slower than you SDD and may be considerably more than that. Also running a release preview the drivers may not be fully optimized yet. I suggest downloading CrystalDiskMark (if it will run on Windows 8) and run it on the SD card and the SDD drive and compare the random read and write speeds. You could also try moving the cache back to the SDD drive to see if that makes a difference(Preferences-Advanced-Cache-Cache Folder Location) Jim (and Rufus): Thanks for the advice. I'm travelling this week, but I will check out CrystalDiskMark when I get home. I did try moving the cache back onto the C drive, but it did not seem to make much difference. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Michael Gordon wrote: I will check my profile, but actually this precisely is why I have my profile in the same location (D:\Mozilla\SM-2 Profiles) on all my machines. Yes, and that is why it works on your XP and Win-7 PCs, the file path is the same. Does your Tablet have the following directory structure and naming convention? D:\Mozilla\SM-2 Profiles Yes, the directory structure on the tablet is exactly the same as on my XP and Win7 machines. The only differences are that the tablet is running Windows 8, and the D drive is on the SD card. The above may be part of the problem. SD cards are pretty much the same until we compare memory size, and Class values. Class values use a value that relates to write and read speed for the memory chip. I have a digital camera with a 2Gb SD card with no Class value on the car. It was very slow in writing RAW files to the card. I purchased a new SD card with 16Gb and a Class-10 value. Now the write speed of a RAW file is as fast as writing a .jpg image file. The file size difference between a RAW and .jpg file is about 8Mb, the point I discovered is in the Class value, 10 is about 10 times faster. You may want to look into this as a possible solution, SDHC cards are relatively inexpensive now, the 16Gb card I purchased was on sale for $19.95 at our local Target Store. So. CA, Ventura area, USA. My 32GB card is supposedly a class 10 card. I think I paid about $40 for it, which is not a negligible amount of money. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Poor performance with profile on SD card
Michael Gordon wrote: Long, long ago, before smart phones and tablets, or notebooks we were able to install SM on the memory stick that would be used with the mobile device (Acer Iconia W500 tablet). Installing on the memory stick allowed SM to create a default profile on the stick. Some of the files on your desktop install of SM refer to locations on your desktop, not found anywhere on your tablet. Try installing SM on the memory stick for the tablet. I'm not sure I understand your answer. I could install SeaMonkey to the SD drive, but I really do not want to, and I do not see how it would help. I just want to have my profile on a secondary drive, as I do on all my machines. The setup I have on my tablet is the same as on my other computers, except that the D drive is an SD drive, not a second hard drive. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Poor performance with profile on SD card
I have an Acer Iconia W500 tablet on which I have installed Windows 8 Release Preview 32-bit (and previously the Developer Preview and Consumer Preview). This machine has a 32GB SSD drive, and I have added a 32GB SD card in the internal slot, formatted as NTFS (drive D). When I put my SeaMonkey profile on this SD card, the performance is abysmal. *Everything* takes a long time, especially just loading pages in the browser. This happens both with my existing profile (copied from another machine) and a new test profile. The original default profile on the SSD C drive works fine. Has anybody else seen this? Can SeaMonkey be transferring so much data to/from the profile that disk speed is a major issue? BTW, the card is PNY 32GB Secure Digital High-Capacity (SDHC) Flash Card Model P-SDHC32G10-EFS2 R. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
Rush Bellucci wrote: I can confirm that menues are non usable on a touchscreen on W8 CP or DP. Every (and I say EVERY) other software can be used, but Thunderbird, Firefox and Mozilla Family software are almost impossible to use at the moment due to the menu+touch screen. Hope someone will release a plugin to fix that soon... What hardware are you using? I am interested to know if this a problem that occurs only with the Acer W500. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
Ron Hunter wrote: I didn't pay too much attention to the article, but I think I saw something that indicated Firefox would work in both modes. Sounds like a neat trick, since even IE seems to be two programs. Not bashing MS, but certainly bashing Metro! AFAIK, it is not possible for the same executable to run as both a desktop app and a Metro App. But as Mozilla source code is C++ and JavaScript, which are two of the WinRT languages, it should be possible to use the same underpinnings in both a desktop and Metro version. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
Rush Bellucci wrote: I can confirm that menues are non usable on a touchscreen on W8 CP or DP. Every (and I say EVERY) other software can be used, but Thunderbird, Firefox and Mozilla Family software are almost impossible to use at the moment due to the menu+touch screen. Hope someone will release a plugin to fix that soon... What hardware are you using? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
David Wilkinson wrote: In both DP and CP Windows 8 versions, in touchscreen mode the menus in FireFox and SeaMonkey do not work (I haven't tried Thunderbird). The menu drops down, but pressing an item does not work. It is as if the menu is transparent -- the press registers on the the window underneath the menu. This does not happen with other desktop applications that I have tried. Nobody trying FireFox on Windows 8? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
Philip Chee wrote: They've only just started writing code for a Metro version of Firefox so it'll be some time before anyone can test that on Windows 8. Yes, but I'm talking about the regular desktop version. I don't know if this will apply to third party browsers, but Metro IE10 allows no plugins (no Flash, no Silverlight), and so there is a desktop version of IE10 that does allow plugins. If Firefox follows this pattern, then the regular version will need to run on Windows 8. And some people will want no part of Metro, so they will want regular Firefox and SeaMonkey to run. I'm just wondering what it is about Firefox and SeaMonkey that causes their menus not to work with a touchscreen on Windows 8 (at least on Acer W500). It seems to me that they must not be ordinary Win32 menus. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
Ron K. wrote: Have an idea that needs testing. When the menu item is clicked it has focus when the drop down menu opens. With a mouse, were scrolling down into the menu and dragging the focus with the cursor. My question is, will doing a finger drag shift the focus to the desired item on the menu? This doesn't work. As soon as you drag your finger, the menu closes. As I said, there must be something different about the Firefox/SeaMonkey menus, because menus on other Win32 applications work correctly. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
Ron Hunter wrote: Nobody trying FireFox on Windows 8? Who would want to? I don't see that this question calls for Microsoft and/or Windows 8 bashing. After all, Mozilla is apparently going to build a Metro version of Firefox, so I am sure they would like the desktop version to work on Windows 8 also. And it does, except for this menu issue with the touchscreen (or at least the Acer W500 touchscreen). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Menus on Windows 8 touchscreen
I have the Acer W500 Windows tablet (which has both a touch screen and a docking keyboard/mouse). It came with Windows 7, but I installed the Windows 8 developer Preview and later the Consumer Preview on it. In both DP and CP Windows 8 versions, in touchscreen mode the menus in FireFox and SeaMonkey do not work (I haven't tried Thunderbird). The menu drops down, but pressing an item does not work. It is as if the menu is transparent -- the press registers on the the window underneath the menu. This does not happen with other desktop applications that I have tried. The menus work fine with the mouse. I don't know if this touchscreen problem occurred with Windows 7, because I installed Windows 8 as soon as I got the device. Does anybody else see this (I found one other posting of this, also with the Acer W500, but there were no responses). Is there something unusual about the way menus are implemented in the Mozilla products (on Windows)? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: any way ...
km wrote: ... i want to email my sm with the setting to a friend so when she clicks on the download link it will install my sm on her desktop??? If I understand you, you want your friend to use SeaMonkey with all your settings. Your settings are not saved in the SeaMonkey installation directory, but rather in your profile. On Windows XP (similar for other Windows systems) the profile is stored in C:\Documents and Settings\David\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles The profile folder itself will have a name like .default If you close SeaMonkey and then zip up this profile folder then your friend should be able to install SeaMonkey in the normal way, and then use this profile. [I'm not 100% sure how to do this with the default profile, but I'm sure it is possible. I am only familiar with moving named profiles between machines.] Is this what you want to do? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 32 and 64 bits
Gertjan wrote: Can I use a 64bit .profile on a 32bit Machine I synchronize profiles between a Windows 7 x64 machine and a Windows XP x86 machine without problems. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NoSquint extension replacement for SM2.1+?
Phillip M. Jones wrote: The built in Zoom doesn't work as well. As soon as you go to another link and back the setting is lost. It doesn't persist. I wish Phil Chee would hurry up and fix it. I depend upon because of my eyesight. Any news on NoSquint for SeaMonkey? I tried hacking the .xpi file and installing on SM 2.41, but it did not work. There was no evidence that it was installed (except in Add-on manager). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 regularly freezes for several seconds
Peter wrote: I've got 2.5 installed on three different computers, and they're all experiencing the exact same problem - SeaMonkey freezes for several seconds (up to maybe 15 seconds at a time sometimes) very very frequently. It's incredibly frustrating! I used to have this problem, but not any more. I was trying a lot of things to get rid of it, but I'm pretty sure it was clearing out large IMAP mail boxes that did it. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NoSquint extension replacement for SM2.1+?
gertjan.vinkeste...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, no news yet, will the xpi be available for 86_64 ? I'm not sure what you mean. I just took the latest nosquint-2.1.2-fx.xpi version of NoSquint and hacked it to include a SeaMonkey section allowing minimum version 2.0 and maximum version 2.*. It installed on SM 2.42 on Windows, but was non-functional. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: View Source With on SeaMonkey
WLS wrote: Sorry, we are talking apples and oranges here. I didn't come across VSW 0.8.1.1 in my search, but VS 2.1 from AMO. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/view-source/ I guess that one won't help. Ah, yes. View Source With is a different extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dafizilla-viewsourcewith/ -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
View Source With on SeaMonkey
The author of the excellent View Source With extension has decided to cease support for SeaMonkey, due to the rapid release cycle. And indeed there is a very real problem, because hacking the .xpi file of the latest VSW to allow installation on SeaMonkey does not give a working extension even on SeaMonkey 2.0.14 (I have not tried on later versions). For me this is a very serious issue, because VSW is a must-have extension for me. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: View Source With on SeaMonkey
WLS wrote: Never heard of View Source With, but I just installed it on SeaMonkey 2.5b2. I do have the Add-on Compatibility extension installed. What is not working in View Source With? I'll test it and see if it works in 2.5b2 That's interesting. As I said I only tried the latest version 0.8.1.1 of VSW on SeaMonkey 2.0.14 (after hacking the .xpi file). It did not work, but I have contacted the author of VSW, and he suggested I add the following field in about:config extensions.dafizilla.viewsourcewith.useWinProcess = false Then it worked on SM 2.0.14, and then I found that it worked on SM 2.4 also. Maybe 2.4 did not need this change, I don't know. I need VSW because I use it to launch a helper application that I wrote myself (it's a long story). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
Sailfish wrote: Win8 is a closed system. Apple can get away with it because of their ability to inspire with the hardware and software design. Android is open and is now selling more smartphones/tablets than even Apple, let alone WinPhone7. Why should Mozilla put anything more than a meager effort into Win8? Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Actually, Microsoft is providing the advantage of a Windows runtime (WinRT) that will run on both tablets and conventional computers. It's hard to believe that WinRT will not become available for Windows phone development also. Unless WinRT/Metro fails completely, this is a very big market that can be addressed by a single WinRT version of the browser. WinRT also has the advantage that it can be programmed directly in C++ (though the interaction with the Metro UI requires an extended version of C++ called C++/CX). Much better than using Objective C or Dalvik, IMHO. But currently, the only Metro/WinRT browser is Internet Explorer 10. One interesting feature of it is that it does not allow plug-ins, not even Silverlight. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8 Metro
Ron Hunter wrote: Why is Win8 any more closed than any other version of Windows? Well, it will have an apps store, and you will be prevented from multi-boot installs. How's that for a starter? I don't know if the app-store will be the only way to install Metro apps, but doesn't the open Android have an App store also? I am multi-booting Windows 8 with Windows 7 on my PC right now, so I'm not sure what you mean by this. Not so easy to multi-boot an Android or IOS device, anyway. I have mixed feelings about Metro myself, but I think that a common runtime and user experience over the whole range of devices is an attractive concept, and one that will give Microsoft an edge. In any case, Microsoft is betting the farm on this concept, so it's very likely to happen. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Windows 8 Metro
It seems that Windows 8 will have an entirely new mode of operation called Metro (alongside the traditional desktop). Although primarily targeted to tablets using touch, Metro will also be available using mouse/keyboard on regular desktops and laptops. Metro apps are sand-boxed and are written in a new runtime called WinRT, using C++, C#, VB.NET or Javascript. The developer preview already has a plugin-free Metro version of IE 10, and they seem to be working on Live Mail also. So where does this leave SeaMonkey/FireFox/Thunderbird? Is Mozilla just going to concede the Metro experience to Microsoft? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM format=flowed is incomplete
Mike Easter wrote: It appears to me that SM's implementation of format=flowed is partially broken, like that of an earlier Tb 3's. I don't currently use SM, but I'm interested in it. Tb's current level of f=f support (including a rewrapping function even without restoration or preseration of trailing spaces) is essential. I do use SM, but the absence of your items 2 and 4 is a major source of irritation to me. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.3 : No response unless/until mouse moved
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Since being upgraded to Seamonkey 2.3 yesterday, I have started to notice some very odd (and completely new) behaviour -- I assume you have tried restarting SeaMonkey and/or your computer... -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Skipping version 2.1
Are there any issues with upgrading directly from 2.0.14 to 2.2? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupt download to Network share on Windows 7
NoOp wrote: And the url to the bug report is where? This is not a casual issue, so any details that you can provide will be helpful. I based my question on this link http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/753738 This is indeed an extremely nasty problem, which has been around ever since Windows 7 was released (and likely before). One bug report is here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545650 -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupt download to Network share on Windows 7
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: SeaMonkey 2.2 will have those fixes. And will arrive in ~2-3 weeks we hope. Justin: Be sure to mention this fix in the release notes! This is really a very serious issue, and I cannot believe it has remained unfixed for so long. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: V2.1 problem in Composer mode
Helene wrote: I did not mean that developpers did not work well, only that they priviledged the surfing functions at the detriment of editing functions, which, to me, are the ONLY ONES that matter (I use Firefox for JUST surfing, I use SEAMONKEY when I need to edit the pages I surf - intranet at work) Interestingly enough, the reason I first got into Netscape 15 years ago was that it had an HTML editor. But since I learned how HTML works (it's not hard) I don't use a WYSIWYG editor any more, so I haven't looked at Composer for years. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Lee wrote: Kind of a long-shot, but you could try Process Monitor. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx Thanks for that. I have found the Windows 7 Task Manager and even Resource Manager were not much help here. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
David Wilkinson wrote: Using SM2 on Windows 7 x64 (and other Windows machines). I have found many discussions of high CPU usage in FireFox and SeaMonkey, but none of the suggestions have ever helped in my situation. The symptom is that SeaMonkey freezes for a few seconds, most noticeably when scrolling a document or clicking a menu (when I expect instant response). The problem is less severe on my new quad core machine (Windows 7 x64) and worse on an XP virtual machine. Although I ws not able to conclude unambiguously that mailnews was the culprit here, I have just cleaned up and compacted my IMAP Inbox's and SeaMonkey seems to be running much better. Fingers crossed... -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Corrupt download to Network share on Windows 7
I have had a long-standing problem in SeaMonkey with corrupt downloads to a network share on a Windows 7 machine (my HTPC/Server). Apparently this problem is present in FireFox also http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/753738 In this thread it says that this problem will be fixed in FireFox 5. When do FireFox 5 fixes arrive in SeaMonkey? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupt download to Network share on Windows 7
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: SeaMonkey 2.2 will have those fixes. And will arrive in ~2-3 weeks we hope. Thanks, Justin. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Daniel wrote: David, if you leave the tick in, the MailNewsgroup portion will be running, and some are saying that the MailNewsgroup portion is hogging CPU Cycles. If you don't start it, it shouldn't use any cycles!! This check-box says Only check for new messages after opening mail newsgroups To me this says Don't check for new messages unless mailnews is running, so in order to throttle mailnews you should check this option. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
David Wilkinson wrote: Using SM2 on Windows 7 x64 (and other Windows machines). I have found many discussions of high CPU usage in FireFox and SeaMonkey, but none of the suggestions have ever helped in my situation. The symptom is that SeaMonkey freezes for a few seconds, most noticeably when scrolling a document or clicking a menu (when I expect instant response). The problem is less severe on my new quad core machine (Windows 7 x64) and worse on an XP virtual machine. When this happens on my quad-core machine, Task Manager typically shows high CPU on several cores (usually three), not just one one core as happens when I load a new page. How can I find out what SeaMonkey is doing when this happens? Thanks all for the suggestions, but my attempts to throttle background activity in mailnews do not seem to have helped. In fact, the problem always seems to be caused by some kind of user interaction with SM, often something quite innocuous. If I just watch Task Manager without using SM, I do not see these spikes. In the past I have tried starting SM in safe mode and this did not help either. Again, the symptom is a sudden spike in CPU usage on several cores, sometimes three, sometimes four. Again, is there any way to determine what SM is doing to consume these cycles? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Jens Hatlak wrote: To be exact, it means Don't check for new messages unless MailNews has been opened at least once during the current session.. So it doesn't matter whether you have a MailNews window open at any given time, but only whether one had been open at any time during your current session. In other words, MailNews keeps running in the background at all times, unless it is not started at all. And if the above checkbox is *not* checked, the check for new messages is *always* started. Jens: Thanks. So I think I was right: I should tick this box if I want to throttle mailnews. But I did not realize that mailnews kept running in the background after it was closed. I think I need to redo my test for mailnews being the CPU hogger. I must say I hope it is not mailnews that is causing this problem, because this might cause me to abandon SeaMonkey. On the brighter side: (a) Maybe this problem will be gone in SM 2.1. I'm a bit busy to upgrade right now, but I will soon. (b) On my new quad core machine this is not nearly such a big problem as it used to be on my older machine (RIP). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
Ant wrote: Dang. This will be a problem for me since I manually copy my bookmarks and other files (addressbooks and mails) between computers' SM2 (do keep the same versions updated on all machines). Why is places.sqlite keeping specific details like OS'? Yes, I do this also. I close SM on both machines and SyncToy the profiles. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1
Sledge Hammer wrote: Congratulations to the team and thanks for all the hard work. Yes indeed. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Daniel wrote: David, to eliminate the possibility that it is the mail that is causing this problem, could you go to Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups and under General Settings , untick Only check for mail, Why to untick this? If I want to throttle mailnews as much as possible, would I not want to tick it? But what does this option mean exactly when ticked? Does it mean that mailnews will only consume resources when a mailnews window is open? BTW, the items in the SeaMonkey Help for this General screen do not seem to correspond to the application itself. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Michael Gordon wrote: If you remove the check for e-mail and leave the check in for browser then when you open SM it will only launch the web browser and you will have to manually open the mail and newsgroups application. Another option is to remove all the checks and create icons on your desktop to launch SM in Mail, and/or Browser. Michael: The checkbox I am talking about says: Only check for new mail after opening mail newsgroups. Obviously, there is no analogous checkbox for the browser. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
High CPU usage
Using SM2 on Windows 7 x64 (and other Windows machines). I have found many discussions of high CPU usage in FireFox and SeaMonkey, but none of the suggestions have ever helped in my situation. The symptom is that SeaMonkey freezes for a few seconds, most noticeably when scrolling a document or clicking a menu (when I expect instant response). The problem is less severe on my new quad core machine (Windows 7 x64) and worse on an XP virtual machine. When this happens on my quad-core machine, Task Manager typically shows high CPU on several cores (usually three), not just one one core as happens when I load a new page. How can I find out what SeaMonkey is doing when this happens? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not supported
Jane-Galt wrote: Ok I'm trying SM 2.1Pre and it's interestingly different. But how different is it from just hopping over to Firefox now? Well, it has the integrated mail client. If you don't want/need that you might indeed go with latest FireFox. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Ed Mullen wrote: Good question. I've been seeing this for months now. I believe it has something to do with the mail component in SM. If I run just the browser it's fine. Once I run mail, however, I see these periodic freezes. I've tried turning off automatic mail and news refresh/message download to no avail. If you close all mail windows then the mail part of SeaMonkey does not do anything? I would think so, but I tried this one time and it did not seem to help. I do have a lot of mail accounts and (especially) newsgroup accounts. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: In my experience, if I close the mail window but leave the browser open, the mail app continues to poll for messages and download them on schedule (unless I change the settings). I still get the little envelope in the tray when incoming messages arrive, and if I then open the mail app, they've already been downloaded and are ready to read. And I, too, have periodic freezes that seem to coincide with the downloading of mail. I mostly notice these when playing videos, which is a CPU-intensive process. In that case, the only way to recover is to pause the video and restart it from the point where it froze (once it freezes, it stays frozen). Audio is not affected. I must say that if it is mailnews that is causing these freezes (and messing up the browser) this is a very strong reason not to use SeaMonkey. But surely it should be possible to run the mailnews downloads at low enough priority that they do not interfere with more performance-critical stuff. But why are you so sure that it is mailnews downloads that is causing the problem? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: High CPU usage
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I said seem to coincide with. This is not the same as so sure. Please read more carefully. Sorry about that. But why do you think it is mailnews? When you are in a browser window how do you know that mailnews is downloading? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email Filter/Search behavior like Seamonkey 1.x
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Hrm are you sure, it seems to only search Subject/Sender for me. (Though I'm not deeply vested in the mailnews code to verify from that end for you). I know Thunderbird has what they call gloda for search, which we do not use [yet, if ever]. But I would be sure that if its different now there is a way to change it back. Out of curiosity, what other aspects of a message are searched, and does it search outside of the folder you are looking at, at the time, or what. AFAICT, it does what is says, which is search Subject or Address, ie, the Subject, From, To, Cc fields. Although I do not totally like this, it has the advantage of being mailbox-independent, In SeaMonkey 1.x, the search behavior was different (for example) in the Inbox and Sent mailboxes. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
MCBastos wrote: Yes. There is Camino, K-Meleon and Kazehakase, at least, which seem to be still active (although not always in close parity to Firefox). Galeon seems to have been abandoned, and Flock is no more. There is also the Kylo browser, which is optimized for use on a TV screen. [It has a cool accessory, the Loop Pointer, which gives you mouse capability from your couch.] -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: PDF Mail Reader Question
Leslie Hartman wrote: All: Some PDF attachments open while others don't. If I save the PDF attachments that don't open as a file in say /tmp and mail them to myself, the will open just fine. Have you tried the ViewSourceWith extension? http://dafizilla.sourceforge.net/viewsourcewith/ -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problems with Window Menu
One of the things I like in SeaMonkey (as opposed to FireFox) is the Window menu. But sometimes it does not work (i.e. I select an item from the menu, but the display does not switch to the corresponding browser or mail-news window). I have seen this problem both in SM1 and SM2. Does anybody else see this? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems with Window Menu
WLS wrote: Not in Seaonkey 2.1pre But you have seen it in earlier versions? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems with Window Menu
WLS wrote: Once opened both stay opened and I don't use the window menu to switch between them. So you only use one browser window? I have to confess that I typically have several (each with several tabs), and indeed this may be the cause of my problem. But it should work. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problems with Window Menu
WLS wrote: I only use tabs in one window. WLS: I see you are using Linux. I should have said that I am seeing this on SM2 with Windows 7 x64. But I had this problem with SM1 on XP x86 also. So it could be a problem only with the Windows versions of SeaMonkey. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Low Sound Volume in SeaMonkey
SeaMonkey 2.0.13 Windows 7 x64 RealTek AC '97 audio (analog output) All streaming audio (e.g. in YouTube or Amazon Cloud Player) has very low volume in SeaMonkey 2, even though every setting that I am aware of (browser window, Windows 7 tray, speaker volume) is set to the max. Some sources are usable (barely), others not. This does not happen in IE8 or Chrome; in these I can blow my ears out (if I so desire). (I do not have FireFox on this machine). -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Low Sound Volume in SeaMonkey
David E. Ross wrote: YouTube uses Flash. I don't use Amazon Cloud Play, so I don't know what it uses. In any case, it might be something in the application that actually captures the stream and sends it to your sound card. Have you examined the settings in Volume Control (sndvol32.exe or whatever its Windows 7 equivalent is). In Windows XP, sndvol32.exe has separate volume settings for Wave, SW Synthesizer, CD Player, and Input Monitor. I believe the setting for Wave is what controls the volume for Flash. Also, under [Start Settings] in Windows XP, there is a Sounds and Audio Devices that has volume control. There should be an equivalent for Windows 7. David: Amazon Cloud Player does not use Flash. But you have solved my problem (or at least given me the clue I needed). In Windows 7, sndvol32.exe is just sndvol.exe. When I opened it, there was a volume level setting for SeaMonkey (because SeaMonkey was running) which was set to the lowest level. Moving it to the highest level made SeaMonkey work much the same as IE and Chrome. [I find you can also get the sndvol.exe screen by selecting the volume icon in the system tray and selecting Mixer.] Thanks!!! This has been bothering me for a long time. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending multiple e-mails to multiple people, but showing To: address?
d...@kd4e.com wrote: My recent experience is that this method triggers SPAM filters at the ISP-level. Which method? Yourself in the TO:? Or undisclosed-recipients? Putting my E-mail in the TO: field and BCC below that. It worked fine for almost 2 years, then the bounces started one ISP at a time. Something wrong with their filters mishandled it and there is not a good way to get them to fix it. In the 21st Century E-mail needs to be protected like First Class Mail. If having the TO and FROM addresses the same is a problem, then why not just get yourself another address (yahoo, gmail, hotmail...) and use that in the TO field? Unless it is really the BCC that is causing the problem... -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving profiles from XP to Win7
Daniel wrote: With-in SM, go to Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile, give it a distinctive name, then on that screen click on Choose Folder, and find where you saved the old profiles location then select one level above that, so that the profile is a sub-folder of where you tell SM to look. i.e. If your profile files are in the directory C:\Personal\Internet\old_one\profile location, you would tell SM to look in C:\Personal\Internet\old_one Daniel: I am sure I did not do it that way. I chose the copied folder itself (e.g. profilename.salt), not its parent folder. I was actually copying a profile from a Windows 7 machine to an XP machine, but I do not see that would make any difference -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving profiles from XP to Win7
Zeb Carter wrote: I am in the process of setting up a new computer for a friend of mine - old computer running XP Home, new computer Win 7. Both have SM 2.0.8. When I do this, I first close SeaMonkey on the old computer, and copy the entire profile folder (e.g. salt.profilename) to the new computer. Then I use the profile manager on the new computer to create a new profile with the same profile name and use Choose Folder to navigate to the copied profile. The profile manager is smart enough to realize that it should use the existing profile in that location, rather than creating a new profile in that location. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Missing account type choice
Jens Hatlak wrote: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861#c0 Thanks Jens. It's working again now. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Instant
Daniel wrote: Larry wrote: did not clear any cookies. spoofing to work with my bank. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.12) Gecko/20100825 (NOT) Firefox/3.5.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.7 Having trouble sending messages on this newsgroup. please reply if you get this message. I seem to be missing Larry's message, so I think something strange is happening. I still cannot get Google Instant to work, even with Larry's spoof string. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Instant
Larry wrote: Worked for me yesterday and just now. Vista / SM207 Larry: Thanks. OK, I got it to work on FireFox by clearing the cookies for google.com (at least I think that's what did it), but I really do not want to clear my SeaMonkey cookies. Did you have to clear cookies to make it work? Do you spoof FireFox in your copy of SeaMonkey? It seems it should work, because people in another thread are complaining that it suddenly started happening without them doing anything. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google Instant
Ed Mullen wrote: Go to Search Settings and set your preference there. It should save that in a cookie along with your other prefs. If Google, for some reason, thinks that your browser is not instant-capable, it will not show you that option. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Google Instant
Has anybody gotten Google Instant to work on SeaMonkey 2? It works for me on IE8 and Chrome, but not on SeaMonkey or FireFox (which may explain why spoofing FireFox is not helping me here). It's supposed to work on FireFox 3... -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashes after 2.0.7 update - possible fix
Robert Kaiser wrote: JOLAN1 schrieb: On Sep 8, 6:16 pm, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: Hi, If you are seeing a crash (probably when profile manager should come up) after getting an update to 2.0.7, please try to go into the SeaMonkey application/install folder, find a subfolder named components and remove the compreg.dat file inside it. Can/should we delete that file before doing the 2.0.7 update? My computer has downloaded the update, but hasn't installed it yet. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Disable specific Seamonkey components
Martin Jungowski wrote: Hi everybody, I'm sick and tired of Thunderbird 3 for various reasons and have started evaluating alternatives. Currently, I'm looking at Evolution and Seamonkey. As you all know every Seamonkey window has five buttons on the lower left - Browser, Mail Newsgroups, Composer, Addressbook, and IRC-Chat. The tricky part is that I'm not evaluating Seamonkey to run it on my personal computer only, but to run it on our company XDMCP servers to switch ~1,200 users from Thunderbird/Firefox to Seamonkey. And obviously we don't want our users to run Composer or IRC-Chat, so the question is quite simple: how do I disable the Composer and IRC component of Seamonkey? What Thunderbird 3 problems are you talking about? Are you sure these same issues will not be in the mailnews part of SeaMonkey 2? [I do much prefer the UI of SeaMonkey compared to ThunderBird, but perhaps this is because I am used to it.] I have read here that it is not possible to install just specific parts of SeaMonkey. Personally I love the suite, though I only use the browser and mailnews parts of it. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
