Re: How so I make Seamonkey use the system default browser (chrome)?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

flyguy wrote:

How about this extension I just discovered:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/ 



Are there any side effects from using this? Anyone here using it?


I've been using that add-on for a couple of months now, currently with 
SM 2.53.5.1, using SM as my mail client and Firefox as my browser. Works 
great!  -JW

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Re: Manage Bookmarks on 2.53.1 is weird

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
This is basically a port of the Firefox library now. Too much was broken 
so I took a sledge hammer. New bookmarks default to other bookmarks but 
can be switched to the bookmarks menu when saving.


I miss being able to edit the Description when using "File Bookmark...". 
 -JW

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Re: Create IE Bookmark for Seamonkey?

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Thomas Pamin wrote:
There is a weather site that doesn't work in SM (actually none of the 
Accuweather radar sites work in SM). It does work in IE, so I'm trying 
to create a bookmark for SM that will open in IE. Maybe it's not 
possible, but any suggestions?


https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-radar


I use an add-on called "IE View", which adds an "Open Link Target in IE" 
option to the right-click menu of any link.  -JW

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Re: Filtering on Newsgroup cross-posted to??

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Daniel wrote:
Is it possible to "Mark as Read" any post cross-posted to a particular 
newsgroup??


On UseNet, some/several posters have a habit of cross-posting their 
messages to news group that I am not in the least interested in, so is 
it possible to set up a filter to "Mark as Read" any message that is 
Cross-posted to particular news group??


I've had a look in the Tools->Message Filters->New screen and it seems 
to allow to filter on "Subject", "From", "Date" and "Size" and it then 
offers "Customize". I'm guessing, if filtering on "newsgroups 
cross-posted to", it would be under this selection . Right??


Select "Customize...", and then on that dialog, in the "New message 
header:" box, type "Newsgroups", and click "OK". You can now create a 
filter containing cross-posts to newsgroups you wish to ignore.


On my setup, I've also added "Body", so I can filter on words _within_ a 
message.  -JW






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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

DoctorBill wrote:

I am fed up with Windows 7 "File Search" !  Garbage !  Klunky and Crude.

I there a good reliable and FREE disk search program available ?

I would appreciate any suggestions.


Agent Ransack aka FileLocator Lite.   -JW

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Re: Syncing SM bookmarks

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Bill Spikowski wrote:
For years I relied on the Sync feature in Seamonkey to keep my bookmarks 
the same on several computers.


A couple of years ago, that stopped working for me, so I switched to a 
commercial service called Xmarks, which worked just as well, and the fee 
was modest.


Last year, Lastpass acquired Xmarks with big plans for folding it into 
Lastpass, which I also use for passwords. But yesterday Lastpass made 
this announcement:



On May 1, 2018, we will be shutting down Xmarks. Your account will
remain active until then. After this date, your bookmarks should
remain available in any previously accessed browser, but they will no
longer sync and your Xmarks account will be deactivated.


What other options are available for syncing bookmarks in Seamonkey?


As long as you're not using SM on more than one of those computers at 
the same time, there's no reason why you can't move your SM profile 
(which includes the bookmarks) to a cloud service, and then sync that 
folder on multiple computers through the cloud service.


I currently have my SM profile on OneDrive, which both my desktop and 
laptop are sync'd to. When I grab the laptop for a road trip, all my 
current bookmarks (and emails!) are there; when I return home, 
everything I did on the road is already on my desktop.  -JW

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Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or 
another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox 
one for google it works. Please complain to them.

FRG


That was it - thanks. UA override added, complaint filed.  -JW
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Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

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Danny Kile wrote:
I need help getting SeaMonkey to work correctly. Doing a Google search 
such as this link:


https://www.google.com/#q=restaurants+orlando+near+orlando

When I get the search results it displays a small map and several search 
results locations clicking on any of the results or the small map take 
me to another page that is nothing but a blank page and nothing else.


When using IE and going to the same link it get a large map with all the 
locations displayed on the map. Please help me get SeaMonkey to work 
correctly.


Thank you in advance!


Same behavior here using 2.49. Viewing the "blank page" in IE works 
perfectly.  -JW

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Re: new 2.48 available

[J. Weaver Jr.]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

My 2.48 came as an automatic update to the 2.47 I was using.

I've noticed one bug so far: the default button (usually "OK") on most
dialogs is active and functional, but _visually_ "greyed out", with the
legend just barely visible.  -JW


Seems to be a problem with the Default Theme, and applies to "moused 
over" buttons as well as the "default" button. Reported as 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1336181>  -JW

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Re: new 2.48 available

[J. Weaver Jr.]

My 2.48 came as an automatic update to the 2.47 I was using.

I've noticed one bug so far: the default button (usually "OK") on most 
dialogs is active and functional, but _visually_ "greyed out", with the 
legend just barely visible.  -JW

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Re: Seamonkey 2.46 browser history manual deletion expression

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Using 2.47 (build 20161222015808), the "Components.classes" script 
listed below does _nothing_ when run in the error console.  -JW


User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 18:46:

On 1/4/2017 5:24 PM, User wrote:

Ant wrote on 2017.01.04 4:43:

On 1/3/2017 9:36 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ...

Try one of the other work-arounds in bug #660646.  One suggests a
PrefBar
button; if you have the PrefBar extension installed, the Expire
History
button can be added from
.  Although I
created that button, I now use the "Expire history by days" extension
from
.

I
know it works with SeaMonke 2.46; I do not know if the PrefBar button
still
works with 2.46.

...

I second this PrefBar suggestion since I still use its purge my SM's
history
daily to keep only the last 29 days. Its JS button says:

"//  This script was suggested by "al_9x" in a comment in bug #660646
Components.classes['@mozilla.org/browser/nav-history-service;1'].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIBrowserHistory).removeVisitsByTimeframe(0,




 (new Date().setHours(0, 0, 0, 0) - (parseInt(prompt('Days of
history to
keep', 29)) - 1) * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000) * 1000 - 1)"


I did read about the PrefBar extension. However, I thought I had
recalled
reading in that Buzilla thread that the PrefBar was using exactly the
same
expression internally do purge browser history. If that is the case,
that would
mean that PrefBar would no longer work with SM 2.46, since that is my
problem in
the first place, that the expression no longer works in the error
console
evaluation. Are you currently using PrefBar in SM 2.46? I have no
verification
from anyone that PrefBar, which uses the exact same expression, is
currently
working in SM 2.46.


It seems to work for my SM since I quick check my histories often.
When I purge
the histories, I can feel the small short pauses too.


I reviewed the entire thread and I have no confirmation of what SM
version you are using PrefBar with for deleting your browser history.
Are you on SM 2.46 or another version? The other user in this thread is
on SM 2.46 but appears not to be using his installed PrefBar for browser
history deletion so I still have no confirmation on whether PrefBar
works in SM 2.46. If it does, then that doesn't make sense because
PrefBar essentially integrated the original expression lifted from that
Bugzilla thread and since that expression no longer works in the SM 2.46
error console, I don't see how the PrefBar using the exact same
expression in SM 2.46 would be functional.

Usually I would go into SQLite Manager extension installed in SM, run
the PLACES.SQLITE compacting, then run the expression in the SM error
console, and run the SQLite Manager compacting one more time and would
notice a major reduction in the PLACES.SQLITE file size, which then
confirms that the expression did its job.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.46 Glitch

[J. Weaver Jr.]

I had a similar glitch - to troubleshoot it, I made a full copy of my 
current profile, then started new, blank profiles with only _some_ of 
the previous files copied in.


The problem turned out to be the "webappsstore.sqlite" file; copying my 
entire profile to a new blank with the _exception_ of that file solved 
the problem.  -JW


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Could you check the size of the following files in your profile:

content-prefs.sqlite
cookies.sqlite
formhistory.sqlite
permissions.sqlite
storage.sqlite
logins.json

Likely only a temporary hang because of too much accumulated junk but I
would to know.

FRG


Verwayne Greenhoe wrote:

Your auto update of 2.46 has a glitch that won't allow me to use my
password manager. As soon as I activate the manager, it freezes up my
quad
core, eight gig of RAM pc like nothing I've ever encountered. I need
to use
that option. I reverted back to 2.40 and it works fine. I turned my pc on
this morning and BAM... auto updated again and my password manager
freezes
up the computer, requiring it be manually shut down.

If you get the moment, can you look into that?
Thanks!
Verwayne Greenhoe





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Re: Refresh in 2.47

[J. Weaver Jr.]

TCW wrote:

On 12/5/2016 10:47 AM, J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Is anyone else having a problem with Reload in 2.47? _None_ of the
various ways to activate it (toolbar icon, View/Reload, Ctrl-R,
Ctrl-Shift-R, F5, or Ctrl-F5) seem to do anything at all.  -JW


No problems here. Have you tried Safe Mode as well? I'm on x64 version
if it makes any difference.


Thanks for the suggestion - turned out it was IE Tab causing the 
problem. All better now! :)  -JW

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Refresh in 2.47

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Is anyone else having a problem with Reload in 2.47? _None_ of the 
various ways to activate it (toolbar icon, View/Reload, Ctrl-R, 
Ctrl-Shift-R, F5, or Ctrl-F5) seem to do anything at all.  -JW

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Re: downloaded SM2.49a1

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Composer should be dropped.  It is decades out of touch with HTML and
CSS standards.  It produces totally crappy code that won't validate.

Yes, once upon a time, like 1996, I used Composer to create a Web site.
I then, in Web terms, grew up, got wiser, learned.

Kill Composer.  It serves no useful valid purpose.  Rip the code out and
slim down SeaMonkey.


Hear hear! It's a large bundle of code with no modern purpose.  -JW

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Re: Chase Bank doesn't like SeaMonkey

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Marisa Ciceran wrote:

I have been a faithful user of Seamonkey and its predecessors since the
mid-1990s. Have there been no updates to Seamonkey since the release of
version 2.40 in March 2016?

It is for months that I have been unable to log into my Chase bank
accounts because chase.com claims that Seamonkey is out of date.  I know
that there have been extensive discussions on this chronic problem, but
since I am not a programmer I have not been able to decipher from the
various threads whether or not a viable solution has been found. The
suggestions to change banks or stop using Seamonkey are not reasonable
options to me.

Can anyone please give this and other non-techie users a clue on the
status of this issue? I would appreciate it.


In a browser page address bar, type "about:config" (without the quotes).

Anywhere in the body of the page, right click, select "New" and "String".

At the "Enter the preference name" prompt, type 
"general.useragent.override.chase.com" (without the quotes).


At the next prompt, type "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:43.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0" (again, without the quotes).


Many other user agent strings will also work, but that one's working for 
me.  -JW

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Re: Chase bank site is excluding Seamonkey

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Again, the easiest solution:

"about:config",

create string "general.useragent.override.chase.com"

set it to your current useragent string _without_ the "SeaMonkey" (mine 
is "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0")


End of problem.

No, it's probably not as internally satisfying as angry snailmail 
letters or changing banks, but it's quick and easy and works.  -JW

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Re: Chase Bank doesn't like SeaMonkey

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ed Mullen wrote:


No, the best solution is to walk into your local branch of Chase and
tell them that you are moving all of your accounts to Bank Of America
because their Web site is broken.  THAT is what will get their
attention.  Money talks, especially when it walks.


Assuming the local branch's teller cared, or the assistant manager you'd 
probably be referred to to close your accounts cared, they have 
_nothing_ to do with the design or implementation of the corporate 
website.  -JW

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Re: Chase Bank doesn't like SeaMonkey

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Mason83 wrote:

On 29/06/2016 20:13, Mark B wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Mark B wrote:

Chase Bank recently updated their websites, and now they won't allow
access using SeaMonkey.  They say "You need to upgrade your browser to
access your accounts and statements.  Download a new version of your
favorite browser here:
   Internet Explorer > (download the latest version.)
   Firefox > (download the latest version)
   Chrome > (download the lastest version)
   Safari >"

I have been using SM for years to access Chase.  Not about to use
another browser just to do it their way.

Call Chase Online services (877) 260-2178 and file a complaint.  The
first person you talk to can't do anything, so ask to escalate the
complaint.  I told them it was their problem, and gave them the user
agent string: (Help/About SM) User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40.

If enough people complain, they might do something about it other than
say "We don't support SM."  To which the reply should be "I don't
support you."


Solved that problem here by adding this preference to "about:config":

  general.useragent.override.chase.com

(type "string") with the following value:

  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0

Yes, it'll have to be updated manually as SM advances, but WORKS4ME. -JW


Thanks for that.  It does work, but a PITA to remember every time SM
updates.


Why do you have to remember every time SM updates?

Just set Firefox/66.6 and be done with it? :-)


There was some _other_ site (CRS, at the moment) that was actually doing 
range checking to block that kind of workaround.  -JW

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Re: Chase Bank doesn't like SeaMonkey

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Mark B wrote:

Chase Bank recently updated their websites, and now they won't allow
access using SeaMonkey.  They say "You need to upgrade your browser to
access your accounts and statements.  Download a new version of your
favorite browser here:
  Internet Explorer > (download the latest version.)
  Firefox > (download the latest version)
  Chrome > (download the lastest version)
  Safari >"

I have been using SM for years to access Chase.  Not about to use
another browser just to do it their way.

Call Chase Online services (877) 260-2178 and file a complaint.  The
first person you talk to can't do anything, so ask to escalate the
complaint.  I told them it was their problem, and gave them the user
agent string: (Help/About SM) User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40.

If enough people complain, they might do something about it other than
say "We don't support SM."  To which the reply should be "I don't
support you."


Solved that problem here by adding this preference to "about:config":

general.useragent.override.chase.com

(type "string") with the following value:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0

Yes, it'll have to be updated manually as SM advances, but WORKS4ME. -JW
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Re: User agent problem

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

But now I see in your later posts that SeaMonkey already doesn't work
with Chase? Or are you just getting a nag that you can dismiss and
ignore, like when you update Flash and it always wants to bundle McAfee
or Yahoo or Chrome or something?


Immediately after signing on, you get an "update browser" screen that 
can't be bypassed - the only links are to download "modern" browsers.


Changing my user agent to "Firefox/40" for just the logon works fine; 
you can change back to the default UA string immediately after making it 
past that first screen with no problems I've seen.  -JW


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Re: Did your SeaMonkey v2.39 break the "Allow remote content for ..."?

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Ray_Net wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote on 28/03/2016 15:54:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 23/03/2016 23:08:

On 3/23/2016 7:08 AM, chaa...@gmail.com wrote:


Still broken in 2.40 as far as I can see. Back to 2.26 (again).


Yep, still broken in v2.40. I think v2.38 was fixed and working. :(

I am under v2.38 and I did not see any problem with ""Allow remote
content for ...".
What was the problem with this in 2.39 and 2.40 ?


It doesn't stick - you have to select it for every email, rather than
once for every emailer.  -JW

I just see sometimes a button to click on to permit remote content to be
showed.
My SM -> "Preferences" - "Mail & Newsgroups" - "Message display" I have
set the "Block images and other content from remote sources" option.
This is why a got the permission button - I think.
Would you say that I can specify "Allow remote content..." for one
adress of my adress book ?


You _used_ to be able to do that, but it no longer works.  -JW
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Re: Did your SeaMonkey v2.39 break the "Allow remote content for ..."?

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Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 23/03/2016 23:08:

On 3/23/2016 7:08 AM, chaa...@gmail.com wrote:


Still broken in 2.40 as far as I can see. Back to 2.26 (again).


Yep, still broken in v2.40. I think v2.38 was fixed and working. :(

I am under v2.38 and I did not see any problem with ""Allow remote
content for ...".
What was the problem with this in 2.39 and 2.40 ?


It doesn't stick - you have to select it for every email, rather than 
once for every emailer.  -JW

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Re: SM Verizon FiOS e-mail

[J. Weaver Jr.]

HenriK wrote:

Has anyone on this list using SM successfully set up the e-mail portion
of SM with Verizon FiOS?

As I read Verizon's instructions, they specify:

Server settings:
Server Type: POP Mail Server
Server Name: pop.verizon.net Port: 995 Default 995
User Name: just your name(leave off @verizon.net)


Try incoming.verizon.net instead.  -JW

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 chase web site

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ron wrote:

Just got the 2.31 upgrade  now I can't log in to my account on
chase.com I hit logon  it just reloads the log on page. Works in IE and
Seamonkey 2.30


Same thing happening here.  This is frustrating.  Can I go back to
Seamonkey 2.30?  Or maybe spoof the browser to firefox (which used to
work when bank sites didn't accept SeaMonkey)?


Same problem here: worked great with IE  2.30, not at all with 2.31. 
sigh Is there a Bugzilla entry for this yet?  -JW


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SM 2.14 problem (and solution) with permissions.sqlite

[J. Weaver Jr.]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=813865

Originally reported by a Firefox 17 user, I was having the exact same 
problem with 2.14 - cookie permissions not being saved from one 
session to the next.


Using sqlitebrowser, I deleted a number of existing permissions, 
reducing the size of the permissions.sqlite file from 623K to 26K. 
Everything now seems to be working normally.


The OP postulates (correctly, I think) that some change from F16 to F17 
(and therefore SM 2.13.2 to SM 2.14) imposed a limit (deliberately or 
otherwise) on the size of the permissions database.  -JW

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Re: Google Maps GL

[J. Weaver Jr.]

hawker wrote:

I see Google has a new map sytem called MapsGL.

When I try to use it in Seamonky 2.11 it says my browser is not
supported.  Under supported browsers it lists Firefox going back a ways
(version 8) so Seamonkey should work as well.

I understand Seamonkey now advertises itself as Firefox, so can anyone
tell me why this is not working and what to do to make it work?


MapsGL works for me (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) 
Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12, XP Pro SP3)  -JW


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Re: Google Maps GL

[J. Weaver Jr.]

hawker wrote:

On 9/7/2012 12:30 PM, BIll Spikowski wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

hawker wrote:

I see Google has a new map sytem called MapsGL.

When I try to use it in Seamonky 2.11 it says my browser is not
supported.  Under supported browsers it lists Firefox going back a ways
(version 8) so Seamonkey should work as well.

I understand Seamonkey now advertises itself as Firefox, so can anyone
tell me why this is not working and what to do to make it work?


MapsGL works for me (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0)
Gecko/20120826 Firefox/15.0 SeaMonkey/2.12, XP Pro SP3)  -JW



Works for me with Seamonkey 2.12 and Windows XP SP3




Are you sure your doing MapsGL and not normal Maps?
You seem to be the only XP person to claim it works. From another poster
it looks like it will not work on XP.


As I posted earlier, it's working fine for me with XP Pro SP3 and SM 
2.12.  -JW


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Re: Seamonkey 2.12. Congratulations ! The worst update in all the Mozilla's life.

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Interges wrote:

If I know that an update will going to give me problems I don't install it. The 
question is that was not known until we did it.


1. Backup SeaMonkey directories.

2. Install new version.

3. Problem? Restore from backup.

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Re: Gmail and Win XP

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ed Mullen wrote:

A friend who uses me as their tech support guy wrote that she and her
husband can't access Gmail on their XP systems.  Okay on an Acer tablet,
okay on W7 systems.

I tried on my W7 systems, it's fine.  Tried on an XP system and no good.


Working for me with XP SP3 and SM 2.10.1.  -JW
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Re: news-eternal-september

[J. Weaver Jr.]

JAS wrote:

Since going to SM 2.6.1 I can not get my news-eternal-september.org. in
my composer. I was subscribed to the microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
news group and have never had a problem until now , it will not accept
my password. I can log in to the website OK and even changed my
password. The same thing happened to my annexcafe account. Has there
been a change somewher or is it in my settings? Have never had a problem
before. I get a News [NNTP] error: invalid credentials


I vote your settings. news.eternal-september.org is still working 
fine here.  -JW

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Re: news-eternal-september

[J. Weaver Jr.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/1/12 8:58 AM, J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

 JAS wrote:

 Since going to SM 2.6.1 I can not get my news-eternal-september.org. in
 my composer. I was subscribed to the microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
 news group and have never had a problem until now , it will not accept
 my password. I can log in to the website OK and even changed my
 password. The same thing happened to my annexcafe account. Has there
 been a change somewher or is it in my settings? Have never had a problem
 before. I get a News [NNTP] error: invalid credentials


 I vote your settings. news.eternal-september.org is still working
 fine here.  -JW


It was NOT working well New Year's Eve.


According to them, it wasn't _them_:

http://www.eternal-september.org/mrtg/lan-week.png

shrug  -JW

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Re: freelance writer in message body

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WLS wrote:

On 12/10/2011 12:20 PM, Ken aliandika:

 I looked for some mention of all text being omitted except for the
 words freelance writer in the text area of some messages posted to
 this newsgroup, but could not find any.  Why do some messages appear to
 have everything removed and these words present?  Most messages appear
 properly, but some do not.  For instance the above message from
 DoreenRutledge18 appears that way.

 I am using SeaMonkey 2.5 and Windows XP, but they have been present
 in earlier versions of SeaMonkey as well.



That is all the text that was in the message. It is Spam.


But, NO! It _must_ have been SeaMonkey's fault!  ;)  -JW
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Re: freelance writer in message body

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ken wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

 WLS wrote:

 On 12/10/2011 12:20 PM, Ken aliandika:

 I looked for some mention of all text being omitted except for the
 words freelance writer in the text area of some messages posted to
 this newsgroup, but could not find any. Why do some messages appear to
 have everything removed and these words present? Most messages appear
 properly, but some do not. For instance the above message from
 DoreenRutledge18 appears that way.

 I am using SeaMonkey 2.5 and Windows XP, but they have been present
 in earlier versions of SeaMonkey as well.



 That is all the text that was in the message. It is Spam.


 But, NO! It _must_ have been SeaMonkey's fault! ;) -JW


I am not blaming SeaMonkey, I am, and have been very happy with
SeaMonkey for many years.  I just did not know what was causing it.  I
thought I might have something set incorrectly.  Now I know better.


grin No personal offense intended, Ken - I was just cracking wise on 
some of the anti-SM hysterics we see here from time to time.  -JW

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Re: Re-Open previously closed sites gone from SM 2.5

[J. Weaver Jr.]

In SM 2.5, The Recently Closed Windows item was moved from the File 
menu to the Go menu.  -JW

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SM 2.4 Javascript problem

[J. Weaver Jr.]

I've had the following bookmarked for quite some time now, to restore my 
SM browser window to its preferred size and location when it gets changed:


javascript:moveTo(0,0);resizeTo(961,703)

With the installation of SM 2.4, this has stopped working completely: no 
move, no resize.  -JW

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Re: SM 2.4 Javascript problem

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:15:35 -0400, /J. Weaver Jr./:


 I've had the following bookmarked for quite some time now, to
 restore my SM browser window to its preferred size and location when
 it gets changed:

 javascript:moveTo(0,0);resizeTo(961,703)

 With the installation of SM 2.4, this has stopped working
 completely: no move, no resize. -JW


Reported the last week in this and the dev groups (see the
JavaScript thread from Fri, 23 Sep).  Filled in as:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688841


Thanks. (FTR, I have the Move or resize preference selected.)  -JW
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Re: for a friend ...

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

 On 9/21/11 10:39 AM, km wrote:

 ...  i need to download and install SM such that
 the peompt that appears each tine it is started
 AND ask if you want to make it default  browser
 is NOT asked. is this possible???

 km



 On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit   Preferences].

 On the left side of the Preferences window (under Category), select
 [Advanced].

 On the Advanced pane, uncheck the Cehck default ... checkbox.

 Select the OK button.



David, the OP is posting to the SeaMonkey newsgroup using SeaMonkey 2.3.3

In my SM 2.3.3, the suggestion you make (even allowing for the typo's),
there is nowhere on the Advanced pane to uncheck Check default).

My check of Preferences fails to find anything to stop the question
being asked.


Using 2.3.3 here, that preference most certainly _does_ exist:

pobox.com/~jwjr/untitled.JPG

 -JW

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Re: Another 2.2 problem

[J. Weaver Jr.]

W3BNR wrote:

On 8/13/2011 1:54 PM Beauregard T. Shagnasty submitted the following:

 Juiceman wrote:


 When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
 send it or save it.


 Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
 subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
 theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
 picture you tried.

 Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
 your browser's cache.



Lot's of luck in finding it in the multitude of subdirectories in the new cache
setup in 2.2 and 2.3



Still easy with about:cache.  -JW
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Re: Bookmarks

[J. Weaver Jr.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/2/11 9:43 AM, Juiceman wrote:

 I loaded 2.2 and my bookmarks are gone, or I cant figure out how to find
 them. I think I am going to dump 2.2 and go back to an earlier  version.


Your bookmarks are now part of places.sqlite.

If you set browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML to true, they will be
exported to file bookmarks.html every time you terminate SeaMonkey.
When you use the Bookmarks Manager to update your bookmarks, you can
also export them to bookmarks.html (or any other file).  Then, you can
still use bookmarks.html as your home page, as I do.


As do I.

Easier than manually exporting, though - once you have the 
autoExportHTML preference set, install the Restartless Restart 
add-on, then just hit Ctrl-Alt-R to automatically revise the bookmarks 
file.  -JW


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Re: Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail Newsgroups!

[J. Weaver Jr.]

stan wrote:

I got latest update and would like to remove annoying screen in my email
window titled  Welcome to SeaMonkey Mail  Newsgroups!
Where is the magic box to unchecked.


Edit / Preferences... / Mail  Newsgroups / Mail Start Page. Uncheck it, 
or pick your own location to display.  -JW

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Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

[J. Weaver Jr.]

JeffM wrote:

Graham wrote:

I'm liking Seamonkey less and less
[Large amounts of text elided]


Whenever I see these long diatribes about SeaMonkey,
I note that they never mention the authors' participation
in the Release Candidate trial/review process.


Yup.  -JW
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Re: Email Command line is gone.

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Keith Whaley wrote:

Or whatever they call it. The horizontal line that contains icons and
such for manipulating messages in email. Delete, Forward, Reply, Reply
to All, etc.

The current window, starting from the top, shows:

- the header line that contains SeaMonkey drop-down menu, the View
window and the Search window, and at the far right, the Advanced window.

- the next window down is the Tab line, where open mail message tabs appear.

That's IT. There used to be another line I;d call the Command line. Now
missing.
How do I get it back? I see no spare arrows anywhere, indicating there
are (now hidden) lines of command icons.

I restarted SM. No luck.

Any ideas?


Try View-Show/Hide-Mail Toolbar.  -JW

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Re: Seamonkey 2.1 -- worst complainers ever

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Rufus wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

 Rufus schrieb:

 I got that a *long* time ago...in point of fact I knew that going in. A
 Mozilla based app is clearly *not* what I'm asking for


 And it's outside the abilities of the SeaMonkey team to produce a
 non-Mozilla-based app, so please just let this thread end.

 Robert Kaiser



I doubt that...I've got all sorts of faith in your abilities.  If your
resources are limited, that's something else altogether.


...so, volunteer. It sounds like you've got more interest in seeing this 
happen than everyone else here put together. So, DO IT. We've got all 
sorts of faith in _your_ abilities. ;) -JW

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Re: Capture password file as text?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/25/11 12:20 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:

 Ray Davison wrote:

 SM 3.1

 Does anyone know how to get the contents of the password file into a
 text file?

 I assume signons3.txt is the contents of the password file from SM 1X,
 and that signons.sqlite is the 2.1 password file.  True?

 I have the contents of the three Win Zips from the site below in a
 sub-directory with a copy of signons.sqlite.
 http://www.sqlite.org/download.html

 And have scanned this page;
 http://www.sqlite.org/quickstart.html

 So far all I have managed to do is read signons.sqlite as a binary.

 Ray



 I use Gadwin PrintScreen and click the PrtScr button while the
 passwords are showing. Then save it to a file.



With SM 2.1, this must be quite tedious.  SM 2.1 will display passwords
for only one domain at a time.


Not only that, but you'd have to click on Show Passwords for each 
domain individually as well.  :O  -JW

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ZOOM functionality change in 2.1

[J. Weaver Jr.]

When you zoom a browser window in 2.1, it zooms _all_ windows open from 
that particular domain, instead of just the particular window you're 
trying to zoom.


Not fond of this...  -JW
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Re: Bookmarks issues / question

[J. Weaver Jr.]

cmcadams wrote:


Pre-2.1 SMs had a feature where you could specify a target folder for bookmarks 
when
using the (Bookmarks -  Bookmark this Page) pick list from SM's main screen. 
Now such
bookmarks all seem to go to the end of Bookmarks Menu. Am I missing a setting, 
somewhere?


I miss this feature as well. Unsorted Bookmarks doesn't do it for me.  -JW
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Re: Bookmarks issues / question

[J. Weaver Jr.]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

cmcadams wrote:


 Pre-2.1 SMs had a feature where you could specify a target folder for 
bookmarks when
 using the (Bookmarks -   Bookmark this Page) pick list from SM's main screen. 
Now such
 bookmarks all seem to go to the end of Bookmarks Menu. Am I missing a setting, 
somewhere?


I miss this feature as well. Unsorted Bookmarks doesn't do it for me.  -JW


Followup: just did Bookmark This Page and the new bookmark was placed 
_after_ the last existing bookmark folder (but not in it) and _before_ 
Unsorted Bookmarks. Completely useless.  -JW

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SM 2.1: note for those using StrokeIt or other macro programs

[J. Weaver Jr.]

...or any other application which depends on the window class: the 
window class of SM 2.1 is now MozillaWindowClass, which is different 
from previous versions (which were MozillaUIWindowClass).  -JW

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Re: 2.1: Bookmarks Add-on Manager

[J. Weaver Jr.]

nr wrote:


#main-menubar [label=Subscribe to This Page],
#main-menubar [label=Personal Toolbar],
#main-menubar #bookmarksToolbarFolderMenu + menuseparator,
#main-menubar .feedsMenu + menuseparator {display: none !important;}


That works like a charm - thanks!  -JW
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SM 2.1 Data Manager

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Is there any way to get new instances of Data Manager (including Cookie 
and Permissions and Images and Password and Add-on Managers) to open in 
a new window, rather than as a new tab?


(2.1 looking great - thanks, everyone!)  -JW
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Re: SM 2.1 Data Manager

[J. Weaver Jr.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/11/11 11:26 AM, J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

 Is there any way to get new instances of Data Manager (including Cookie
 and Permissions and Images and Password and Add-on Managers) to open in
 a new window, rather than as a new tab?

 (2.1 looking great - thanks, everyone!)  -JW


When I set my preferences to open in a new window via [Edit
Preferences  Browser  Link Behavior ] -- for both links and scripts --
the Data Manager still opens a new tab.


Yes, that's exactly the behavior I'm getting.  -JW
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Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14

[J. Weaver Jr.]

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151

This page was working fine then suddenly stopped:

http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States

I made no changes here since yesterday.

Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't
notice that could have created a problem?

On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori.


Failing here with 2.0.14 (WinSP3 Flash 10.3.181.4). But, also failing 
with Explorer 8.  -JW

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Re: Displaying Bookmarks As an HTML File

[J. Weaver Jr.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/15/11 7:39 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

 David E. Ross schrieb:

 With SeaMonkey 2.0.14 and earlier versions, bookmark folders in
 bookmarks.html were indented, subfolders were doublely indented, etc.
 How can I get that appearance now?


 If you just want bookmarks to be shown in the browser where you noramlly
 see websites (or as a start page), then just use
 chrome://communicator/content/bookmarks/bm-panel.xul

 Robert Kaiser



No, I want to see them as an HTML page.  I sometimes want to copy the
text title, not the URI.  I want all the folders to be expanded.  I want
to see recently visited bookmarks in the same color (red) as recently
visited links.


IIRC, we were told a while back that adding 
browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML = TRUE to about:config would rewrite 
the current bookmarks.html every time SM was started or stopped (one 
or the other, CRS).


It's not _exactly_ the instantaneous updates we get with 2.0.*, but it's 
better than nothing.


Disclaimer: I've not used any of the 2.1 betas, so I have no idea if 
this promised functionality exists or works.  -JW

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Re: SeaMonkey and Twitter

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Pat Connors wrote:

Twitter recently updated their site and now I can't get it to work with
SeaMonkey.  I need to open Internet Explorer to use it.  Is anyone else
having this problem?


Both new and old Twitter WFM with .14.  -JW
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Re: SeaMonkey and Twitter

[J. Weaver Jr.]

.14 is SM 2.0.14, same as you're using. WFM is works for me. XPSP3 
here, so YMMV.  -JW


Pat Connors wrote:

I am using SM 2.0.14 and Twitter actually started getting wiggley with
the new update of SM which occurred around the same time as Twitter's
new interface.  First my mouse started to freeze, then I couldn't sign
in and then finally I could get the new tweets...what does WFM with
.14 mean?  I am using Windows 7 64 bit.


Twitter recently updated their site and now I can't get it to work with
SeaMonkey.  I need to open Internet Explorer to use it.  Is anyone else
having this problem?


 Both new and old Twitter WFM with .14.  -JW






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Re: Where's the RSS feed button?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

I subscribe to many Twitter feeds through RSS. To do so, I use the RSS
icon in SM's address bar. This morning, though, I tried to follow one
more feed, but I can't find the RSS icon anymore. I think Twitter might
have changed something, but since it's also the first time I try to do
so since upgrading from .13 to .14, I'm wondering if that couldn't be
the problem too.

So, how can I now subscribe to a feed if I can't conveniently do it
anymore using the RSS feed icon?


New Twitter supposedly does not support direct RSS feeds, and those 
pages are missing the RSS icon.


If you switch back to _old_ Twitter (it's an item on the menu with your 
username on it, in the upper right corner), the RSS icon will reappear.


They keep threatening to do away with old Twitter, so I don't know if 
individual RSS feeds will continue to be supported. Me, I prefer that, 
and RSSOwl, to follow Twitterfolk.  -JW

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Re: Where's the RSS feed button?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. a écrit :

 If you switch back to _old_ Twitter (it's an item on the menu with your
 username on it, in the upper right corner), the RSS icon will reappear.



Yeah, but I don't have a Twitter account. It's why I need those feeds!


Yeah, that's a problem. I started an account (which I never use) just to 
be able to get those links. It's free, and you don't have to give them 
anything other than a name and email address.  -JW

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Re: Browser unsupported ?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ray_Net wrote:

This is what i got when i try to go on my google/gmail profile.
https://profiles.google.com/not-supported/

my browser signature is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


Apparently, they now want to see Firefox 3.6.  -JW
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Re: Print issue in SM

[J. Weaver Jr.]

NoOp wrote:

On 02/10/2011 07:39 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 This goes back all the way to Mozilla, so it may be a W3C compliance
 issue, but it's annoying nevertheless.

 On many websites, I can't seem to get a decent printout. For example, my
 local paper has a searchable obituaries page, and I got 60 hits on my
 last search, but it would only print the first page. I can see the rest
 on screen, but I can't get them out on paper.

 
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/montgomerynews/obituary-search.aspx?page=1affiliateid=2762countryid=1daterange=8stateid=49startdate=20110116enddate=20110210entriesperpage=50

 This returns 60 hits, of which the first 50 are displayed, but only
 seven will print. In fact, in print preview, the first page is the page
 header with no content, the second page is the first page of content,
 and the third page is the page footer. That's it. The other 43 hits have
 vanished.

 I've tried this with several different printers, including Adobe
 Acrobat, and they're all the same. Mozilla and SeaMonkey seem to think
 the second page is 10 feet tall and print only the first 11 inches.

 Needless to say, it prints fine in Internet Exploiter (except the header
 page, which is the same in both).

 Any ideas? I hate wasting ink and paper on ads, and I really hate having
 to switch browsers whenever I want to print something.


Yes, switch to Google Chrome/Chromium to print.

Attempting to print that page (an most any web page) in anything Mozilla
is akin to spitting into the wind  keeping dry. Mozilla (SeaMonkey and
FF) has had issues for years with printing; I provided some examples on
the dev group/list awhile back  was told that it was my OS that was the
problem:

http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/JUslgS4dmgZfEKK87TXI
http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey/browse_frm/thread/48fffae1a06d4c58/9bbf55890c22c896?tvc=1#9bbf55890c22c896

So I then switch operating systems (from linux to Win7) and... well you
can read the entire thread for the responses.

I've also tried printing your web page on SM 2.1x and FF 4.x and it's
still the same. Just install Chrome/Chromium and print it from there -
you'll save yourself a ton of aggravation  the print will work out of
the box.


Try printing this page with Google Chrome:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/standings.html

The printout looks _identical_ to SM's printout.  -JW
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Re: Print issue in SM

[J. Weaver Jr.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/13/11 1:39 PM, Ant wrote:

 On 2/13/2011 2:27 AM PT, Daniel typed:


 And i don't undertand why a browser can display a page correctly and was
 unable to copy this into a piece of paper...


 I'm with you on this, Ray, and I've got no idea why, if SeaMonkey has
 the date required to display something on the screen, it has to go and
 get the data a second time to display it on paper.seems just a way
 to clog up the internet!!


 This issue needs to be escalated. Is there a main bug report for this
 old problem? I'd like to see Mozilla developers work on this area more.


If a new bug report is submitted or an existing one is found, please
post the bug number here.


It looks like the following bugs reference at least some part of this 
problem:


254311
263563
322925
353284
356134

...and really, just search for print preview, there's more of 'em than 
I care to list here.


Getting a page from the screen to the printer has been an issue for a 
_long_ time.  -JW

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Re: Print issue in SM

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Here's one that drives me crazy:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/standings.html

Yes, I know there are a billion errors on the page, but why can't I get 
a printout that echoes what gets rendered on the screen?  -JW

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Re: Missing images SM 2.0.11

[J. Weaver Jr.]

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

I'm getting emails with embedded images that do not show.
All that appears is a border with a small graphic like a broken page.
I'm not able to find a setting anywhere that could be causing this.
Any clues anyone??


Try Edit/Preferences.../Mail  Newsgroups/Message Display, and 
make sure Block images and other content from remote sources is 
unchecked.  -JW

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Re: What File Contains URL Browsing History List SM 2.10?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

places.sqlite. Starting with SM 2.1 (there is no 2.10, you currently run
2.0.10), that file will also contain your bookmarks.


Is the bookmarks.html file being eliminated?  -JW
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Re: What File Contains URL Browsing History List SM 2.10?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

 Jens Hatlak wrote:

 places.sqlite. Starting with SM 2.1 (there is no 2.10, you currently run
 2.0.10), that file will also contain your bookmarks.


 Is the bookmarks.html file being eliminated? -JW


Practically, yes. SM 2.1 will read it once initially and import its
contents into places.sqlite. It will use that file then and stop using
or updating bookmarks.html. If however you go to about:config, create a
boolean pref called browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML and set it to true,
SM 2.1 will again write bookmarks.html, but only upon exit.


Thanks for the info. I'm saving that, because I use the bookmarks file 
as my SM Home Page, and would like to continue doing so.  -JW

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Re: Problem with ol

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Hana Skoumalova wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 Hana Skoumalova wrote:


 I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with
 displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed
 correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed
 to the right into the text.


 It works fine for me, in several browsers.


 I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also
 tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they
 display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items).


 Look more closely. I found numerous errors in your HTML:
 
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html



 I repent my sins, but now, I've corrected all errors and SM is still
 displaying that page incorrectly.


 The page showing the problem is at this address:
 http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html


 Hana

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html
I can confirm that the validator now says there are no errors, but the
13 still displays as the same garbled offset into the text.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142971698/sizes/l/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142274367/sizes/l/in/photostream/



Confirmed here with SM 2.0.10 - no errors, and the 13 at the bottom of 
the page overlaps the item text.  -JW

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Re: Feature request: send mail not earlier than ...

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JohnSmith wrote:

Feature request: send mail not earlier than ...
Ie. mail shall wait in outbound queue till a specified datetime.


Until SM adds it, Google delayed email or scheduled email for a 
number of online services that do this.  -JW

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Re: FTP problem - don't know what.

[J. Weaver Jr.]

DoctorBill wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

 DoctorBill wrote:

 I bought some software - Graphics Workshop 4.0 from
 Alchemy Mindworks.

 Loaded it and want different skins than came with it.

 I have to go to this site
 ftp://ftp.alchemymindworks.com/pub/alchemy/themes40.msi

 Up pops a window says seeking authentication...
 then after about ten seconds another window asking for User and Password.

 I assume this is coming from them.
 I have a user name and password of theirs, but it does not work.

 There tech rep is stymied, says I should not see that window and asked,
 Is the FTP login name for your web browser set to anonymous? (Without
 the quote marks.)

 I have NO IDEA what he is talking about.

 HELP ?


 You said: I have a user name and password of theirs, but it does not
 work. I assumed per example that your username is USER ans your
 password is PWD
 So you should try to connect to the ftp server with the url modified
 with your real user/password...
 This is the url you need:
 ftp://USER:p...@ftp.alchemymindworks.com/pub/alchemy/themes40.msi
  try it ...
 Full info here:
 
http://www.timeatlas.com/5_Minute_Tips/General/Connecting_to_FTP_Sites_with_a_Web_Browser



OK...!
Got it to work.
I used anonymous and my ISP password.

I never use ftp: so I don't have a clue about it.

The tech rep (ha!) didn't explain what software password to use.
The little window had their name on it, but that doesn't mean it is
asking for their password...
Jesus, folks - that sure is clear as mud.

I wonder if they ever heard the term user Friendly.

Very few people are computer knowledgeable on ftp protocol.


Don't blame Alchemy or their tech people (or SM) for this. Using SM 
2.0.8 here, I clicked your URL and the file came right down - it's in a 
public directory, and no password was required or prompted for.


My _guess_ would be that whatever alternate download manager you're 
using got confused somehow.  -JW

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Re: A quick question

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Jay Garcia wrote:

Giganews is the provider that hosts this server news.mozilla.org and
their header is generic and not specifically aimed at this server.
Messages here are not propagated to usenet and vice-versa.


Learn somethin' new every day. Thanks.  -JW
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Re: A quick question

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Leonidas Jones wrote:

JeffMjef...@email.com  wrote:


 If you're going to be posting to USENET,
 avoid using inane Subject lines like A quick question.


This isn't usenet.


From the headers on _your_ message:

X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com

Regardless, A quick question imparts no useful information.  -JW
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Re: A quick question

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Zeb Carter wrote:

It's been a while since I have had to do it but my HD crashed and I am
recreating my USENET lists. I want to show the full title in stead of
the abbreviated name of the newsgroup.

I know I can do it in about:config but haven't stumbled on the right
spot. Help, please.


mail.server.default.abbreviate  -JW
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Re: Is it SM or his HTML?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

From his Best viewed using page:

To take advantage of the latest technology incorporated in this site, 
and to minimize the need for additional plug-in downloads, we highly 
recommend as a minimum using Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 on a PC and 
4.5 on a MAC.


...and...

AOL, PRODIGY AND COMPUSERVE USERS TAKE NOTE

Methinks he really _hasn't_ updated since that 1999 copyright date... :) 
 -JW



d...@kd4e.com wrote:

The first three of the links here do not work and the second
three do not.

Is it SM 2.0.8 or his HTML?

http://www.n2ckh.com/

His source code looks OK:

A HREF=http:\\www.n2ckh.com/FORSALE/AMPLIFIERS/hfamplifiers.htmHF
Amplifiers/A
P

But I get this result:

The requested URL
/FORSALE/\\www.n2ckh.com/FORSALE/AMPLIFIERS/hfamplifiers.htm was not
found on this server.

???



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Re: Anyone else having problems with zap2it?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ed Mullen wrote:

DSF wrote:

 Hello!

 (Windows XP Pro SP2, SM 2.0.8)

I go to this address:
 http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCGrid.do?zipcode=33570

Then I look through the evening's listings and if there's a show I'm
 interested in, I right click and open it in a new tab.  When I'm done
 I usually have four or five extra tabs open.  I go to each tab and
 save the page locally.  This is where the problem is.  Within two or
 three saves, SM will freeze up in the Save As dialog box.  Usually
 just clicking in the File name area will cause it.  At this point, the
 only thing I can do is go to task manager (where XP says SM is running
 fine) and kill it.  I then run it again, wait for the tabs to load in
 and continue saving until it freezes up again.  This is a real pain in
 the A$$!  The Save As dialog box doesn't operate normally in other
 ways when saving from that site.  For example, if I type in a new name
 and press enter, it highlights the name instead of accepting the enter
 as the Save button being pressed.

There are many other web sites where I save pages this way.
 Zap2it.com is the only place I've found where this happens.


I have no idea why it's happening but I can confirm it.  Tested on
SeaMonkey 2.0.8 and Firefox 3.6.10 on Windows 7 Pro.

1.  Go go link above, select a service
2.  Open four show descriptions in new tabs
3.  After saving one or two tabs CPU usage jumps to 50% and memory usage
keeps climbing, falling climbing etc. and the app appears frozen.  I can
select other program windows but cannot re-select FF/SM. A couple of
times during testing my entire system froze for several minutes.  I
couldn't select anything.  I finally hit SHIFT-CTRL-ESC and that forced
Task Manager to have focus.  I then manually killed the FF/SM process.

Does not happen with Opera 10.61.


Doing all of the above worked just fine for me. SM 2.0.8, XPProSP3.  -JW
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Re: Any idea why this site fails to display?

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Jay Garcia wrote:

On 09.10.2010 08:29, d...@kd4e.com wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


 Any idea why this site fails to display?

 http://www.radio-electronics.com/books/practical_wire_antennas_2.php

 I see a heading then the rest is blank.

 I am using 2.0.8 in Linux.



First of all there is no such directory there /books/ and therefore
anything following that doesn't exist either.

However, bringing up the bookstore and searching antennas, it shows
Practical Wire Antennas2 to be an Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/asin/1905086040/ianpoole


Perhaps an explanation, from their /bookstore page:

We are currently working to greatly improve our book shop. Using a more 
interactive approach, and also details of new and forthcoming 
publications, we are endeavouring to provide a more useful area of the 
website. Using our choice of the top books in areas related to the 
website, it will be easier to come here for the best books in radio, 
electronics and associated fields. Come back and visit to see the 
results of our new pages.


Sounds to me like construction in progress has broken the older link.  -JW
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Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!

[J. Weaver Jr.]

If you use the Form History plug in, you can put the first, say, 10 or 
12 digits of your CC numbers in the Clean Up list, and have any values 
saved that match 'em automatically cleared every time you exit SM.


You won't have the _whole_ number in SM, and it won't be trying to pop 
it into forms accidentally.  -JW

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Re: Clearing private data -- do it now!

[J. Weaver Jr.]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

If you use the Form History plug in, you can put the first, say, 10 or
12 digits of your CC numbers in the Clean Up list, and have any values
saved that match 'em automatically cleared every time you exit SM.

You won't have the _whole_ number in SM, and it won't be trying to pop
it into forms accidentally.  -JW


Sorry - make that the Form History Control _add-on_, available at 
http://www.formhistory.blogspot.com/  -JW

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Re: Why doesn't this text print?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

stango wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

 Why doesn't the main text on this page print?
 http://library.thinkquest.org/11572/cc/




It is the way the page is written.

A quick work around is to go the page

  From the Seamonkey FILE menu select EDIT PAGE

Once in the editor,

  From the FILE menu select PRINT and it will print just fine.


I think I see the problem. The HTML code has got nested TABLEs, with 
this as the inner one:


TABLE WIDTH=137 CELLSPACING=15 CELLPADDING=0 BORDER=0

When I go to Print Preview, what I get is a part of the page that looks 
to be 137 pixels wide.  -JW

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Re: I cannot download from this site

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ed Mullen wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

 Another odd one.

 I cannot download from this site:

 http://6mt.com/index.php?option=com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=78Itemid=53

 Mousing-over the CLEGG THOR MANUAL should get me a pop-up or
 something in order to download but it only highlights.

 Is the there a problem with the page or perhaps some setting I
 need to change in my Seamonkey 2.0.8, please?



It's not you nor is it SeaMonkey.  If you examine the HTML there are NO
links defined.  Very odd.


Even odder: they have an XHTML validation logo on the page; clicking 
through it shows 62 Errors, 61 warning(s) Why advertise that you're 
missing the mark that badly?


Could it be that you have to be a paid member to get file access?  -JW
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Re: Anyone using Google see an animated icon today?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


 I'm using SM 2.07, and for the first time, I've been told that Google
 has an animation today, that I can't see. I get just the regular Google
 icon.

 I'm using Walnut theme, is there a possibility there could be a problem
 with it? It rendered one fine, just the other day... the Bucky balls.


Static name here, no animation. But it may be gone already, don't know
their schedule.


Was moving balls earlier, is static grey now. Haven't updated to 2.0.7 
yet, so I'd guess it's just them.  -JW

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Re: RSS in v.2?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


I already know what RSS feeds are. I don't need that. I need to know how
to DO it in SM 2.0.6. There isn't the slightest inkling in either help
topic that SM can handle RSS feeds. There are no links at all to any
how-to topics.


1. Find a web page with a link (usually that little orange-and-white 
dots-and-two-lines thingy) to an RSS feed.


2. CLICK ON IT.

Really, that's it.  -JW
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Re: UA Spoofing.

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Actually, as much as I hate appending Firefox to any UA string of
browsers that are not Firefox, I just filed a bug to make any Gecko that
not has Firefox in its UA string right now to send one in the future.


Bug #, please?  -JW
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Re: Is this site working for you?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

S. Beaulieu wrote:

I'm trying to access www.subaru.ca but ever since they revamped their
site, I keep getting an XML analysis error that keeps me from even
seeing the site (the whole screen is a yellowinh beige with the error
message and part of a coding line that seems to go on off-screen, yet
can't be fully viewed). I know there are some coding errors and that's
likely the problem. I emailed their web technical support about this and
it seems like they are working on it.

That being said, what is strange is that the site works with Firefox.
I've never yet seen a site work with FF while being totally unaccessible
using SeaMonkey.

So I'm wondering whether the problem might not be on my end after all.


WFM with SM 2.0.6, with NOT Firefox/3.6 in my UA.  -JW
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Re: This is not working with SM but OK with IE

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ray_Net wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

 On 13.08.2010 16:25, Ray_Net wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


 Jay Garcia wrote:

 On 13.08.2010 11:11, Ray_Net wrote:

--- Original Message ---


 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

 Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:32:34 +0200, /Ray_Net/:

 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


 The problem with the non-standard compliant behavior of IE in this
 case
 is the URI may contain \ (back-slash) as non-hierarchical separator,
 therefore IE will incorrectly transform it to a forward slash and
 result
 in a non-existent URI. So SeaMonkey's behavior is just fine - not
 being
 clever about incorrect URIs containing back-slashes instead of
 forward
 slashes for hierarchical path separators.


 So you said that SM is not clever enough to transform it to a forward
 slash ?


 No, I said: SM is not 'clever' about, which was meant as SM is not
 stupid to. Sorry for not being clear enough.


 You are wrong because when i propose to SM the following:
 file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg
 he shows me the picture and modify his URL-adress-zone as follow:
 file:///C:/Program Files/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/IMAGES/pose-yoga.jpg

 Why SM is clever with file adress and not with webserver adress ?


 I think David E. Ross has given you a very probable explanation in
 another reply:

 news://news.mozilla.org:119/euqdnsazdykfwv7rnz2dnuvz_uadn...@mozilla.org


 If you want to find out for real, you could ask the Mozilla devs in a
 more technical group.


 I will not go further, because SM gurus and devs think they are the best
 ... it's abnormal that SM works in every possible way except when the
 page is on my isp web space. This was causing me lot of understandings
 why it did not work when uploaded for online general use.


 File structure on the local system follows the rules of the particular
 OS involved whereas on a server, the convention in most cases is quite
 different and therefore interpreted differently by the browser.

 file:/server/directory/file.htm is server based
 file:/c:/directory/file.htm is local system based and the browser will
 automatically insert two more // such as:

 file:///c:/directory/file.htm

 Your image is displayed because everything following the file:/// is
 interpreted as being formatted locally and local rules apply, therefore
 the backslash \ is rendered correctly.

 If you try:  http://your_server/directory/images\image.jpg will usually
 not work because the \ is an illegal character as such in some browsers
 but not all browsers. IE guesses that the \ is really a / and will work.


 As explained before http://localhost/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg  with SM works
 ... localhost is a an access to your_server (mine)


 Yes, on YOUR local system, that's my point.

 If you try my examples, you'll find that it doesn't work on a remote server:

 http://www.ufaq.org/themes/RavenIce/images\logo.gif

 local systems are governed by whatever OS you're running locally.


Could you try ... with SM the following:
http://raymond.homedns.org/IMAGES\pose-yoga.jpg


WFM, with SM 2.0.6.  -JW
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Re: Possible to send email in the background?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Rick Merrill wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

 Rick Merrill wrote:

 Dave wrote:

 Hi all,

 is it possible to make Seamonkey send emails in the background rather
 than having the window pop up indicating the status with the server?
 This is irritating when sending large emails.

 Many thanks!


 Let your OS send your email (silently as all get out):

 sendEmail - Send email from a console near you!
 Written by: Brandon Zehmcasp...@dotconf.net
 http://caspian.dotconf.net/


 sendEmail is a very good program. I also use blat, at
 http://www.blat.net/. -JW


Yes, and it can be run from a batch job.


I also switched from sendEmail to blat because you can put a lot of the 
constants for blat usage into the Windows registry, like this:


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Public Domain\Blat]
SMTP server=x
SMTP Port=x
Try=x
Login=x [encrypted]
Pwd=x   [encrypted]
Sender=j...@pospamsucksbox.com

That makes the command line to call blat a _lot_ simpler, and makes 
global changes (if you're calling blat from a bunch of different batch 
jobs) very simple.  -JW

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Re: URL links not active?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ray_Net wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

 Beverly Howard wrote:

   I have noticed that on occasion URL addresses that appear in list or
 newsgroup messages, that start with http:// do not show up as an active
 link. In other words, they do not appear/display in my posted message
 underlined, of a different color, and are NOT clickable.

 What is the message window for this group's view message body as set
 to?

 Assuming it's set to one of the two html options, set it to plain text
 and see if the link activates.

 I suspect that since most messages here are in plain text and their urls
 convert to links, but that the messages that show this behavior are in
 html format and have only the link text and no associated link created
 for the text.

 Beverly Howard



 The SeaMonkey email reader is smart enough to recognize http:// as links
 and so they are clickable.


Not true - my wife send me a mail with an url. This url is *not*
clickable. If a do a forward of this mail to myself, i receive a mail
whre the url is clickable. STOP saying always SM is smart enough (i
have another case showing SM not smart at all)


Can you post the source for that email from your wife with the 
non-functioning URL?


Also, is there a reason you're still using 2.0.4?  -JW
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Re: Possible to send email in the background?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Dave wrote:

 Hi all,

 is it possible to make Seamonkey send emails in the background rather
 than having the window pop up indicating the status with the server?
 This is irritating when sending large emails.

 Many thanks!


Let your OS send your email (silently as all get out):

sendEmail - Send email from a console near you!
Written by: Brandon Zehmcasp...@dotconf.net
http://caspian.dotconf.net/


sendEmail is a very good program. I also use blat, at 
http://www.blat.net/.  -JW

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Re: Save Link Target As Question

[J. Weaver Jr.]

nr wrote:

On one site that I use, when I select 'save link target as...', the
file name does not appear in the 'Enter name of file to save to...'
box (it does bring in the first 6 or so characters).  It does show if
I put the cursor over the address.  I'm using 2.0.6, but this may have
started with 2.0.5.  I did not have this problem in prior versions.

I have the following Add-ons installed: Adblock-Plus, Better Privacy,
DownThemAll, Flashblock, and NoScript.

Are there any settings that would affect such behavior?  Anything I
can change in about:config?

Thanks for any help.


A link would help. Also: have you tried it with some/all of those 
Add-ons disabled?  -JW

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Re: nothing clickable

[J. Weaver Jr.]

question wrote:

question wrote:

 Nothing clickable with Seamonker tonight  IE works

 http://www.wxyz.com/

I the word LOADING in the upper right hand corner that does not go away


WFM. And that Loading is coming from the website, not SeaMonkey, and 
goes away within a second for me.


That main page, FWIW, generated 166 Errors and 65 warnings from the W3C 
Validator. :)  -JW

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Re: Preventing the [!! Spam] tag from being applied to incoming SM 2.0.5 e-mails

[J. Weaver Jr.]

HenriK a écrit :

 HenriK wrote:

 How do I keep the [!! Spam] tag from being applied to incoming SeaMonkey
 e-mails?

 I have always found these tags to be one of the few irritants in SM
 v.2.xx. It ought to be made optional and easy to find the control.

 Thanks, in advance, for any assistance.

 Another irritating tag that I would like to prevent is [?? Probable Spam].


That's not SeaMonkey - it's Kaspersky adding those. See 
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=36506 for discussion.  -JW

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Re: Google's secured search...

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Ant wrote:

On 5/27/2010 5:53 AM PT, WLS typed:


 I read that Google's search can be done securely. I have SeaMonkey v2's
 use Google, but I cannot seem to make it use https server. I tried
 changing all http to https for Google in my about:config, but it didn't
 work. What else am I missing?


 Did you do this?

 Mike, TmoWizard wrote:

 Then in your Browser directory is an folder named searchplugins.

 The *.src-files can be edited with any normal Texteditor like Notepad.


Ah, thanks.

I just noticed something. Google's image search doesn't exist as an
option when using secured Google search. I think I won't use it then.


Yeah, that whole Web Images Videos Maps News Shopping Gmail more bar 
is missing. Maybe it'll be added later.  -JW

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Re: Giving up on news.eternal-september

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


 This was the second failure in less than a week.

 The first time it just quit working. The only cure was unsubscribe
 from the server in SeaMonkey the go to profile and wipe out anything
 associated with eternal-september


You spent time unsubscribing, wiping, probably resetting up. I just
waited.


 then It started working for a day, the this LDAP error showed up I
 spent the better part of the day removing and re-entering till blue
 in the face. nothing would help.


Then you did it all again, while I just waited.

Why did I wait? Because I had gone to the e-s web site and seen that
they were having a server problem. You were given the link to the page
of server status at least twice, and never bothered to acknowledge that
you ever even looked. So your fiddling was all for naught.


 Two failures in a two day period doesn't sound reliable.


It was a server that failed. Hardware fails. Give him a break.


...and get a backup going, if you're that addicted. I use Tera News as 
my backup (free for 50m/day after a one-time $3.95 setup fee). I've had 
to weather a couple of brief e-s outages over the years, but I'd 
consider them _very_ reliable.  -JW

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Re: I am lost with Bookmarks - Need to Find one

[J. Weaver Jr.]

DoctorBill wrote:

I now have several Gozillion Bookmarks.

I seldom need a particular one and have forgotten which sub folder it is in.

I found it with the search in Bookmark Manager, but that does not tell me where
that bookmark was in the long list of folders, etc.

Is there some way to find out WHERE the Bookmark is in the long list by using 
the search function.


Go to your profile folder, and view bookmarks.html in the browser. 
Then, you can use the Ctrl+F search function (Edit/Find in This 
Page) to locate your bookmark.  -JW

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Re: signature delimiters

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 Russ Hunt wrote:


 Thirty years of email and I never knew that --  was the standard
 delimiter. Thank you.


 Ignorance of the law is no excuse.   :-)   (30?)


 I can't imagine how you can trick SeaMonkey into doing it your way
 unless you're manually adding your first name to every message.


 Actually, the signature line in question _is_ added manually; I
 change it for various contexts. The rest -- my address -- is the sig
 file. And I'm using Pegasus Mail in any case.


 Perhaps Pegasus expects that you should add the --  as the first line
 *within* in your sig text. I've encountered a few clients like that over
 the years -- and discarded them.


 As you can see, your inclusion of text on the same line after the
 space prevents my SeaMonkey from recognizing your sig as such, so it
 doesn't automatically snip it when I reply.


 So any time I put --  by itself on a line, everything below that is
 snipped?


 Just for kicks, I will manually add a --  here. See what happens when
 you select Reply:



My signature is:

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.  If it's Fixed, Don't Break it
http://www.phillipmjones.net   mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com

But I use the dash,dash, space so that it only shows the first time I
post in any given thread.


If you notice, when you REPLY to a message with the properly-delimited 
signature, the signature is not quoted or included in your reply.  -JW

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Re: Sites inaccessible via seamonkey

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Russ Hunt wrote:

I've recent discovered two commercial sites that I cannot access via
SEamonkey, though both response when I use Firefox, Internet Explorer,
and Chrome.  One is this:

https://webmail.bellaliant.net/do/login?v=aliantl=en-US

I get a message saying: This operation is not currently available.
Please contact your System Administrator and try again later.
We are sorry for this interruption in your service. I don't get that
message with any other browser.


That site gives me a Username/Password prompt. Looks normal.


With this site:

https://www6.memberdirect.net/brand/at_722/OnlineBanking/Accounts/?welcome=1

I simply get a blank screen; with the other three browsers I get a
login page.


That site gives me a login page as well.

UA: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) 
Gecko/20100317 NOT Firefox/3.6 Mnenhy/0.8.1 SeaMonkey/2.0.4


I have general.useragent.extra.firefox set to NOT Firefox/3.6. See 
if that helps you.  -JW


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Re: Bottom line missing??

[J. Weaver Jr.]

HilsB wrote:

SM2.0.4  on iMac. Mail and News reader has lost the bottom line
of little icons.
Cannot find anything in 'Preferences'
Help appreciated.


On the Win version, on the View menu, it's Show/Hide... and then 
check Status Bar.  -JW

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Re: Password Manager complaint/problem - SeaMonkey v2.04

[J. Weaver Jr.]

David E. Ross wrote:


Those who don't want a master password obviously are not interested in
securing the file containing their passwords.  Perhaps someone doesn't
care if a spouse accesses secure sites using the family's passwords.
Perhaps he or she has full confidence in a firewall and anti-spyware.
Perhaps the password file doesn't contain the really important passwords.


...or perhaps someone has password or hardware protection on the _entire 
computer_, sufficient to not require passwords on individual 
applications (like browsers).  -JW

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Arne wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:

 On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
 is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
 link to the pdf page?
 Walter.


 I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
 script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
 as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
 another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
 if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


 In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
 when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
 is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?


I don't think it necessarily is supposed to. On occasion, when SeaMonkey
crashes for whatever reason it goes to a Blank Home page the only way to
cure is go to your homepage. then go to Preferences (in Macintosh -
called something else in Widows/Linux/UNIX)  then To Browser clear out
what ever you have set as home page and click on Use current page) this
will fix it until next crash. Possibly the same mechanism the screws up
then is screwing up when you call a PDF and the only PDF viewer from
within SM or ThunderBird for that matter, that works is called PDF
Browser Plugin by Schubert of Germany.



There's no crash involved with this, though - it's just this extra, 
blank page that opens up while the PDF is downloading and before 
whatever external PDF reader is called, and which stays open and blank, 
even after the PDF reader is exited.


It's not a crash, and it's really only cumbersome to the extent that 
it requires one click on the X to close it away, but it's still a bug. 
 -JW

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Re: Pop-up?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

stan wrote:

How do I suppers pop-ups
The flag is checked at Preferences  Privacy  Block unrequested
unwanted Popup windows.
I am still getting them.
Where is the list where I can put URL to be blocked.


Right next to that Block unrequested checkbox, click on Allowed 
Sites and make sure that list is empty (or, least, devoid of sites from 
which you don't want popups).


There is no block list in SM2 - just a block all option (which you 
have checked) and that list of exceptions.  -JW

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Re: Pop-up?

[J. Weaver Jr.]

stan wrote:

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

 stan wrote:

 How do I suppers pop-ups
 The flag is checked at Preferences  Privacy  Block unrequested
 unwanted Popup windows.
 I am still getting them.
 Where is the list where I can put URL to be blocked.


 Right next to that Block unrequested checkbox, click on Allowed
 Sites and make sure that list is empty (or, least, devoid of sites from
 which you don't want popups).

 There is no block list in SM2 - just a block all option (which you
 have checked) and that list of exceptions. -JW


Yes it is empty but the pesky popup is poping out.
Somehow it does not work or there is a work around.


Might be Java or Javascript. Can you give us an example URL where the 
popups happen?  -JW

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

[J. Weaver Jr.]

Phillip Jones wrote:

Arne wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:

 On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:

 On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
 is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
 link to the pdf page?
 Walter.


 I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
 script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
 as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
 another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
 if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


 In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
 when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
 is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?



 It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank page.
It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in a
 browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type that
 instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's the
 result of a poorly designed Web page.


 Okay, then give me a link to a site with downloadable PDF-files where
 this don't happen. Sure there must be at least one you have found, and
 even that would be one more than I know about.

 I have also still to find a PDF file that *requires* a separate PDF
 reader. Only in IE (v.8) I have no clue how to prevent PDF's from
 opening within the browser window, but since I don't use IE I don't
 care. ;)

 I believe it is the code within SM that cause this, not the site. When
 SM can't decide if the pref settings are set to open within the SM
 tab/page or within the stand alone PDF reader.


How about trying the Family Tree files I have on my website. I use PDF's
extensively I just link to to them I have the files loaded on my
website. they will either open with a PDFViewer such as adobe's for
Safari. Or in a PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert for anything else
except  for a PDF viewer such as Acrobat Reader, or equivalent.

I don't use java or javascript.

http://www.phillipmjones.net



Both the Ross and Jones PDF files open on my SM 2.0.4 _without_ 
triggering the superfluous blank window.  -JW

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